Brad Stulberg is a polymath whose first book with coach Steve Magness, Peak Performance, was one of my favorite reads from 2018. His work focuses on helping athletes, business executives, and other top performers improve their chances of success by work on: Defining a path for long-term progression Mental toughness Developing sustainable motivation and purpose How to get into a deep-focus "flow" state Building resilience Development of optimal routines His latest book is also coauthored by Steve Magness, titled The Passion Paradox: A Guide to Going All In, Finding Success, and Discovering the Benefits of an Unbalanced Life. In this conversation, we spend time focusing on the nuances of passion, obsession, and building interest in things that we like. His book is a defense of passion. It's a more nuanced, effective perspective on passion that acknowledges that it's hard to find, that it must be cultivated, and that too much of it can indeed be a bad thing.