“Live a life filled with wonder and curiosity. Ask questions.”Drew SamsI don't consider myself religious.But I am spiritually curious; deeply interested in faith.From Sikh kundalini master Guru Singh and Buddhist monk / tea master WuDe to iconoclast Christian pastor Rob Bell, the exploration of faith in its varying incarnations has been a fascinating, recurring theme of this show.Today, I continue the tradition with Dr. Drew Sams, senior pastor and head of staff at Bel Air Presbyterian Church in Los Angeles.Hardly conventional, Drew is many things. Life-long surfer. Avid ultra-runner. Passionate environmentalist. Devoted family man deeply interested in social justice, nutrition, and wellness. And a progressive doctor of divinity with a take on the Christian faith that is inspiring audiences in Los Angeles and across the world.I think Jesus was an extraordinary guy. But I freely admit that conversations on the subject of organized religion can leave me queasy. Perhaps it's my personal baggage. I don't know. But I do know I really enjoyed this particular exchange — grounded and relatable, Drew made it fun.Today I unpack this pastor's personal journey to faith. It's a conversation about Drew's evolving perspective on God and Christianity.It's about the distinction between literal, allegorical and personal interpretations of the Bible.It's about the relationship between faith, consumerism and environmentalism.It’s a conversation about masculinity — cultural ideation around what a man “should be” versus the strength that can be mined through compassion & emotional vulnerability.But mostly it’s an engaging exchange about our collective moral responsibility to ourselves, our fellow humans, and the planet at large.Drew was great.So let's talk to a pastor!Peace + Plants,Listen & Subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitchercharity: waterI want to personally thank everyone who responded to my podcast with Scott Harrison and donated to charity: water by joining The Spring. As of the date of this writing, the RRP community has collectively raised enough revenue to build 4 wells annually! Amazing. Inspired by your generosity, my company has decided to sponsor one well per year – so that makes 5 wells for 2017. But why not make it 10? For just $20-$40 in monthly donations (100% of which go directly to clean water projects), you can make an incalculable difference in countless lives by investing in a world where everyone has clean water. There is simply no better feeling than providing a basic, life-altering human right. To learn more and join, please visit The Spring at cwtr.org/richroll.com Thanks to this week’s sponsors:Boll & Branch: The first honest and transparent bedding company that only uses sustainable and responsible me... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.