Virginia Heffernan is joined by Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, to talk about Allen Weisselberg and if in fact his immunity means the investigations are getting deeper into the Trump Organization. Also, the two game out a few different pardon scenarios surroundings the president and Paul Manafort.Plus, Kate James and Asher Perlman do away with dog whistles.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices