Welcome to FORMA, a podcast featuring conversations with authors, teachers, creators, and community leaders who are carefully contemplating the nature and practice of classical education and the arts.In this episode, David chats with John Hodges, the director of The Center for Western Studies, about how to approach the challenge of pop music in our homes and classrooms. Topics include: the prerequisites for cultivating discernment, the subjective vs. the objective in music appreciation, how much we should let worry guide the listening freedoms we give our children, and much more.