Full Show Notes at: https://www.pencilkings.com/podcast-home/ “It doesn’t have to be perfect to be done. You can always rework it.” ~ Katie Buckleitner. Want to become a magazine designer or illustrator but don’t know where to start? In this week’s interview, we hear how Katie Buckleitner landed her dream job as a digital designer for one of the world’s most iconic publications, Cosmopolitan Magazine, in New York. You’ll hear how she worked on her skills and transitioned into graphic design after initially studying fine art at college, and you’ll find out how you can do the same by developing standout personal projects to put in your portfolio. And, you’ll get a fascinating insight into the fast-paced world of a leading magazine and what it’s really like to work in this exciting environment. Interview Chapters [00:38-02:10] Introduction and Overview Your host, Mitch Bowler, introduces today’s guest, Katie Buckleitner, a digital designer for Cosmopolitan Magazine in New York. In this chapter, she talks about her background as an artist and designer, including the previous work experience which led up to Katie landing her dream job.   [02:19-02:39] What Does the Creative Industry Mean to Katie? The ‘creative industry’ is a broad term that encompasses many different areas, including fine art, graphic design, illustration, video games and much, much more. But how does Katie define the industry in her own terms...and how does she feel to be a part of it? [02:53-03:05] Did Katie Always Work as a Digital Designer? These days, Katie’s duties involve designing cool stuff specifically for online publication. But did she always work in this area...or did she cut her teeth working as a print designer beforehand? [03:22-03:41] What’s it Like to Land Your Dream Job as a Designer in New York? On paper, Katie’s job sounds ideal. But what’s it live and work in New York...and how does it feel to be part of the team on the number-one young women’s magazine in the world? [03:59-04:48 ] How Did Katie Get Started in her Career? Katie has landed her dream job at Cosmo, but how did she get started as an artist? In this chapter, you’ll hear how her earlier experiences as a fine art student and keen interest in fashion eventually led to her becoming a digital designer. [05:43-19:14] Did Katie Have a Job Lined up Before Moving to New York? Many young artists and designers dream of moving to a big city such as New York and finding their dream role. But does it really ever work out like that? In this chapter, Katie reveals why she took the decision to move to the ‘big apple’...and why the advice of her art tutors in college turned out to be right after all. [06:12-09:20] How Long did it Take Katie to Find her Dream job? Finding her dream job didn’t happen immediately for Katie. In fact, it was only after months of applying that she found her position at Cosmo. In this chapter, she reveals what she thinks helped her land this role...and how you can take the same steps in your own creative career by having a portfolio that gets you noticed. [10:02-11:36] What has Katie Learned From Working on Personal Projects? Although Katie started out as a fine artist, her portfolio gradually developed to incorporate many of the design elements which also interest her. So what did she learn from working on personal projects...and how can doing this help you build a varied portfolio, too? [12:48-13:55] How is Being a Designer Different to Being a Fine Artist? Although fine art and graphic design fall under the same banner of ‘creative careers’, there are lots of differences between these two areas. In this section, you’ll hear how Katie switched from one to the other, but why she still loves to wind down after a hard day at the computer by picking up her sketchbook and pencil. [14:06-14:47] How Does Katie Find Time to Work on Personal Projects? Like many of us, Katie sometimes feels drained after a day in the office and doesn’t always have the mental energy to start worki