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Dear PSME-CRSAsians, Please see below history of interactions regarding the above mentioned topic (CONTROL VALVES FOR AHU CHILLED WATER) From: randy cerrado <blue_arac@yahoo.com> To: PSME-CRSA@yahoogroups.com Engr. Teody, Sorry for my delay response, been quite busy on my Facebook Account for awhile (joke only). With reference to control valve (2 or 3-way), control valve are primarily used not only to control the flow of chilled water in HVAC system, but also to hot water and condenser water and they have specific requirements for design including issues of safety and material compatibility. For design perspective, you must always locate your control valve per standard engineering practice or per manufacturer recommendation. This will place your design safe & correct because most of the design reviewer specially a consultant like American or British Engineer they are book dependent. They will argue with you in any subject if you are inventing another wheel. I. The following are some standard practice for choosing control valve location: 1. For 2-way Valve: Traditionally installed in return or supply line. References:

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CONTROL VALVES FOR AHU CHILLED WATER Who's Online 2. For 3-way Valve (Mixing): Traditionally installed in return line. References: We have 3 guests online ASHRAE Application; Chapter 26 Design and Application of Controls PSME Sponsor ASHRAE System & Equipment; Chapter 12, Hydronic Heating & Cooling System Design Manufacturer IOM: (Ex. Carrier Catalog, Fan Coil Unit). 3. For 3-way Valve (Diverting or By-pass): Traditionally installed in Supply line. References: ASHRAE Application; Chapter 26, Design and Application of Controls ASHRAE System & Equipment; Chapter 12, Hydronic Heating & Cooling System Design Manufacturer IOM: (Ex. Carrier Catalog, Fan Coil Unit). II. The following are advantage & dis-advantage of 2 & 3-Way Control Valve: PSME Sponsor 1. Advantage of 2 & 3-Way Valve a. For 2-way Valve: The 2-way valve system is self-balancing under normal operating conditions. Two-way valves result in variable flow that will reduce pumping energy. This particularly true when variable speed drives (VSD) is used on pumps. The valve is less expensive to buy and install. The need for system balancing flows is reduced or eliminated in most applications. Because the valves will only use as much chilled or hot water as required by the load. Two-way valves located on the return side of coil piping will maintain pump discharge pressure on hydronic coils to enable positive air venting from the coil return header. In many cases, the return line temperature is above dewpoint, in which case the 2-way valve won't sweat even with a poor insulation job if installed in return line and for hot water return, the water is cooler. You don't burn your fingers working on them as much. b. For 3-way Valve: The flow occurs through the circuit at all times (either through the coil or the bypass. The flow remains relatively constant through the loop which includes the pump and varies in the loop containing the coil. This works well for systems in which the supply of heat, typically a boiler, or supply of cooling, typically a chiller, requires a constant flow. The 3-way valves have no problem on handling widely varying flow rates in some chillers and boilers plant. The 3-way valve works well in hot water system operation, water that bypasses each terminal is returned to the boiler at the supply water temperature. Essentially, this arrangement prevents thermal shock by assuring that the water returned to the boiler isnt too cold. PSME SPONSOR If the system properly balanced, the 3-way valve can offer smooth & easy operation. It can offer simple low cost inline maintenance. 2. Dis-advantage of 2 & 3-Way Valve a. For 2-way Valve: The 2-way valve cannot handle widely varying flow rates in some chillers and boilers plant. The requirement for some other means to maintain flow through the equipment must be included, such as a pressure actuated bypass, VSD, or a primary/secondary pumping system. Two-way valves caused differential pressures to increase across control valves, particularly when pumps are uncontrolled to ride their pump curves. This reduces the controllability of the system and may even cause valves to be forced open by the water pressure. Putting 2-way control valve in the supply line, this will keep coil partially filled and this may even create airlock. PSME Sponsor PSME Sponsor

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An improperly sized two-way control valve may consume more water flow when open than the design calls for. b. For 3-way Valve: The 3-way valve can only be used in the last loop of terminal unit to main available flow in the variable flow in chilled water system. The flow in 3-way valve application must be balanced to ensure that the required flow is delivered to each coil. PSME Sponsor Since 3-way valve diverting the flow it wasted energy. The chilled water system can suffer from an acute case of low t (temperature difference) syndrome caused by improper staging of chillers and 3-way valves installed in the loop. Using 2-way valve in variable flow system & 3-way valve in constant flow system can both compromised comfort and operational costs. In practice, not even the most sophisticated systems always perform as promised. This is often because the mechanical design of the HVAC plant does not meet some conditions necessary for stable and accurate control. The design flow must be available at all terminals, the differential pressure across the control valves must not vary too much, and the flows must be compatible at system interfaces. I hope this short story may help you exploring deeper in control valve application in HVAC system. PSME Sponsor Regards, Engr. Cerrado --- On Thu, 3/10/11, butch <teody24@yahoo.com> wrote: From: butch <teody24@yahoo.com> Subject: [PSME-CRSA] CONTROL VALVES FOR AHU CHILLED WATER To: PSME-CRSA@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 3:20 AM

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My Dearest brothers in PSME-CRSA, I would like to ask some few question regarding two- way and three-way control valves.. As far as I know this valves are usually mounted in outlet of AHU or FCU chilled water line, but in our present project..it was located at the inlet. My questions are: 1. It can be mounted in inlet or outlet? What will be the advantage and disadvantage? 2. If I am the designer what will be the basis, why should I use two-way instead of threeway valve? Thanks! MORE POWER PSME-CRSA TRULY YOURS, ENGR. TEODY A. DELA CRUZ
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Thanks for these information


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