William and Cole Oct 23

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william says: (4:40:20 PM)

hi
+++ catatonia says: (10:08:13 PM)

William

greetings friend

Long time no communica.

ill say.

got my bio mark, 52.5

im happy with.

Well donede.

thanks.

i didnt fail.

so you coming up next weekend sir?

eeeeeeeeee.

Um.

Ya see, the two people who my dad was supposed to hire actually quit
before the job began.

I thought youmight say something like that.

Fuck I'm being serious willie.

same.
*william

Ugh.

so that means...no dcfc, or no montreal.

Dcfc.

Ill be in montreal soon.

Hopefully.

people were snorting codine last night, and i resisted.

proud of me?

Thankgod.

im even surprised at myself.

Damn what were you thinking when you declined?

what you would say.

Hmm, me thinks that good.

thanks

I really need to settle down, i feel so stupid lately.

well christmas will curb your ways.

au contraire?

well its how you want it to be william

certainly, im going to eat ill be back.

Ok we still need to talks.

goes without saying.

indeed.

Icelandic fishermen kill a Fin Whale (pictured), stating that the
International Whaling Commission ban on commercial whaling does
not apply.

Hmmm.... fucked but not that fucked.... do not go to prison planet.

ill try

i figured out why i was confused a while ago

www.prisonplanet.com
www.prisonplanet.net

and whys that?

they are differen

same content different lay out.

oh

bothin equally inssance.

whats your solution to israel conflict anyways

stop killing one anouther.

worry about yourself and not what other idiots are doing.

thats obv not an option.

its all you can doo,,,, oinly long term solution... if you knew yourself better
you would know every body else better because wer are alll one... which is
becayse of the fact that if you cant know the person you are with 24/7 365
how can you know anything else that is fleeing and inperminant.

its not a solution, its a result to a solution

elaborate.

stop killing each other, cant just happen
+++ magnanimous says: (10:48:59 PM)

why.

if every one stopped killing each other then it would trickle down from
there..

When we stop diong the worst thing possible the rest are simpler as they
depleat.

of course, but i hate to break it to you.

but thats not going to happen any time soon.

not with that attitude...

if enough people believe it it will happen.

true

true

but

I believe it, hard to convince others likewise.

they have such strong hatred for each other...

all you can do is lead by example.

not true.

You cant force orthers to do shit.
you can teach.

cant impose.

you can teach.

thats imposeing.... a set of beleifs as truth.

so, they are "correct" beliefs.

or is everyone right in their own way.

every one is god... so if everyone know who they really were and what was
giong on inside them then they wouldnt have to worry about other
redicilous shit... because whats inside is insane enough to warent far more
extensive studies into the self on a self to self basis.

this is true

ill be right back

in like 10

ish

k

where were we

well im tired of this israel discussion, i believe its unsolvable.

well if you believe it it will remain so.

so I saw the richard dawkins lecture.

it was superb, he talked some quantum physics.

he talked a lot about the mind.

nice.1

do you want to know the amazing thing aoubt quantum physics?

it is the answer to what the will is.

how so.

quantum particles like a photon.

when isolated into singularity....

and given two paths to move manage to be in two places at once... left and
right... up and down... right and wrong... here or there... now or when ...
now then .... existance non existance...

hmmm

we are just quantum machines trying to hold on to our wills, and asert our
existnce when in reality there is no choice ... not even a choice to be made
because we are in two places at once ... existance and not exitance.

hmmm

areyou talking many worlds?

same with the fact that they can commuincate with each other
instantaniousky ( aka faster than light {ps so called proven that einstien
concluded that nothing could travel faster than light })also suggests that
there is no division and that its all interconnected... not even
innerconnected because if its one then there is no need to connect
different parties... but at the same time the opposite is

also true

its very fascinating.

what about wormholes.

jsut instantianious travel on a "larger scale"

we are nothing but informtaion...

from one quantum particle to anouther... if we believed we could effectivly
communicate with out msn I think it necessarly follows.

all true.

but fucked.

riddle me this, if you are moving at the speed of light or near it
whatever, and fired a beam of light, wouldnt it be moving twice the
speed?

hihihi

hmmm good question one sec
if you yourself fired it?

while travelling at the speed of light?

yes, in the same direction.

as movement.

i think so... if we believe it would it would.

we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is realy.

perhaps.

listen to this

we never experience the present, only past.
+++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that

the past is real says: (11:32:37 PM)
past doesnt exist.
+++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we

believed that the past is real says: (11:32:43 PM)
its all in your head.

we are living in it.

its all in your sences more accuratly

see this is what I said a while ago.

our minds change reality.

and by me i mean waking life.

buddy at the pinball machine at the end, it was linklater wasnt it?

because it is true we in the typical definion for the word "Live" in the past
but living is only a concept which exists in the past... but concept is only a
concept and the concept of a concept is nothing but an illusin... and for this
reason existance is empossible.

FACK@

We talked aobut that tointie at my house for a second its was nuts.

It brought back so much more redicilous thoughts.

I hear pHillip k dicks books are the most amazing things youl eve really...
prisoin planet written 20 years ago.

the future written 20 years ago.

its uncanny.

oh my

talking to you wiliam gets my mind giong on overdrive some times.
it certainly does.

Ill take that as a compliment.

catalyst.

ps do somthing about that msn name

jj .

do what you belive... i still have to get used to this philosophy

I dunno.

it was necessary I feel.

what?

this philosophy.

I just kinda spilled it oall out here.

can you do me a favor?

probably.
print it out if you ahve a printer... just incase I loose it.

I dont.

you can save convos though.

ok yea I'm good nm

hahah

good ol cole

do you write.

mmm I used to write propetual.

pen name propetual icarus.

I like I like

or various pre words or prior words

I have some of my stuff online if you would like to ready.

right now im doing math, but another time most certainly.
/ill give you the linkds.

who was playing the pinball machine though, he had some good things
to say

Phillip K Dick.

But he just wrote the Book of .... FCAK i cant remember it

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60127787@N00/

wiki?

Book of Acts.

hmmm

I'm ggoing to try to perform my music now.

well speak my words.

what do you play

well attempt to master the preciese verbal exicution that poetics require.
they most certainly do.

education isnt necessarily a bad thing.

all you ahve to do is read to have a good vocabulary.

and once you have a good cocabulary you are better able to understand
because for the ones who use them rely on them for their connection and
attempt to understand and relate to the artificial divisions we employ,

this is all true.

but was school really that bad?

I fucking hated it william.

an arts college or something isnt a bad idea, i keep forgetting to ask
about it.

I loved the people I met... but other than that... its shite.

paying for beliefs.

you can pay alot less and learn alot more if you just ready.

or create for that matter... get to know yourslef better.
because Ile every thing there are always two choices 9when existing....

or two appearences of choice...

so you can look at yourself and seee evetyhing else or vice versa... but i
think many are not intune with themselves to even attempt macro ideals...
but like a hologram every precieved individual contains the contents of the
whole.

true, but you need the right instrument to retrieve the contents.

no instrument necessary the instruemnt is the answer.

the answer is the instrument.

the answer is the answer.

the instrument is the instrument/

?

but at the same time its not because both are concepts and neither then
exist.

i find this concept hard to grasp.

there is no grasping.

you cant hold on to it bceause it doesnt exist.

but you can beceaues you belive it is so and you belive you exist so you do
... and the world is how it is because you believe its is s0 do...

so the real question here.

what does a mind without filtering see.

ie, we need some mescaline.

That would be amazing.

but im unsure whether Iwould do it.

because there are two things that i beilve will happen.

well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will.

whats that.

I wouldnt do it because im not ready for reality.
+++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen
but only one that will... says: (11:56:47 PM)
or more illusion...
+++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could
happen but only one that will... says: (11:57:38 PM)
william do you think anything is more rediciolous than being able to have
existance and nonexistance at the same time

id have to sleep on that one.
no sleep necessary.

its all in your head.

but who the fuck am i to say any of these things.

nothing exists for me to claim.

nothing doesnt exist for you not to claim.
exactlly so I cant speak with out being wrong.
william says: (12:00:36 AM)

insanity.

and sanity, at same time.
but only one that will... says: (12:00:53 AM)
everything at the same time.

happen but only one that will... says: (12:00:54 AM)
and nothing.

our minds cant comprehend non existance.
because we cant.

is the moral of the story.
becase it doesnt exist.

nonexistance doesnt exist.

how can we comprehend somthing that doesnt exist.

there fore how can you comprehend andything.

you cant.

and can

dawkins was talking about how our minds see a rock as solid, when in
reality its mostly empty space.

i would love to see the rock for what it is.
you wouldn be avle to see it.

if we saw stuff for what it is, we wouldnt be able to function as survival
machines.
wel would not exist ... because we only exst in this existance.

which is pretty fucking amazing.

we are somthing among utter propetual nothingess.

that is fucked up...

we are also nothingness.

WE ARE MADE OF NOTHING
but we think we are...

and what is think.. .if we arnt doing it...

both exisatnce and non existance exist ta tthe same time... tehir for there
is no right and wrong because they exist togeater in every situation.

wholly fudge william.

I'm not sure how this could be argued against.

wrongly
what do you mean?

IU am lieing becaise the opposite of my argument is also true.

but true doesnt exist so i cant claim it to be so... but the pervious statment
was just that a statement ... thus stating to be true aka exist but nier are
thre

too paradoxic for me.
the further you fall into the paradox the more apparent things become.

apparently.

anyways I must go to bed, i have to go to class every once in a while.

Ill talk to you later

PS get to montreal.
+++ paradoxicarus - well there are infinite things that could happen
eee... ok ill talk to you tommorrow probalby... im at work.
+++ paradoxicarus - well there are infinite things that could

and you are coming back to hali for christmas right?

but of course

TTYT

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