Toronto Deception

By former Toronto Vineyard Pastor Paul Gowdy [EDITOR'S NOTE: Please see the link at the end of this article to read the "Toronto Drinking Song" - which some of their main leaders put out. Amazing! But first, to this pastor's article...] It has taken me nine years to actually come to the place where I would write this story. Part of the reason was because I was not fully convinced that it is appropriate to speak out against weaknesses in the body of Christ publicly. Another reason is because it has taken years of soul searching to become convinced that what happened in the Toronto Airport Church was actually all bad or at least more bad than good! For the past number of years I have called it a mixed blessing. I think James A. Beverly called it this in his book Holy Laughter and the Toronto Blessing 1994. Today I would call it a mixed curse concluding that any individual good that came from this experience is far outweighed by much harm and satanic deception. I suppose that therein has been my dilemma. I have tried to live my life in the fear of the Lord and Jesus told us that the unforgivable sin was the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Attributing to Satan what was in fact a work of God. If pressed as to whether or not the Toronto blessing is all God or all Devil I will still be hedgy, but I am convinced that Satan has used this experience to blind people to the historical doctrines of God, to produce fruit in keeping with repentance, to failing to test and discern the spirits and failing to test prophecy. After three years of being in the thick of the Toronto blessing our Vineyard assembly in Scarborough ( East Toronto) just about self destructed. We devoured one another, with gossip, backstabbing, division, sects criticism etc. After three years of 'soaking,' praying for people, shaking, rolling, laughing, roaring, ministering at TACF on their prayer team, leading worship at TACF, preaching at TACF, basically living at TACF we were the most carnal, immature and deceived Christians that I know. I remember saying to my friend and senior pastor at Scarborough Vineyard Church in 1997 that ever since the Toronto Blessing came we have just about fallen to bits! He agreed! My experience has been that the manifestation of spiritual gifts mentioned in 1st Corinthians 12 was much more common in our assembly before January 1994 (when the Toronto blessing started) than during this period of supposed Holy Spirit visitation. During 1992-1993 when praying for people we would experience what I believe was genuine prophesy, deliverance and much grace and favour from the Lord. After the Toronto Blessing started, all ministry time changed, the only prayers were 'More Lord MORE', the shouting of 'Fire' the jerky shaking of the body with the 'ooh ooh OOH WOOOAAH' prayer. (I kid you not!) On January 20th 1994 about 15 people from our church traveled over to Toronto Airport Vineyard in order to listen to Randy Clark, a Vineyard pastor from the USA. John Arnott

had called our senior pastor to invite us. He communicated that Randy had been to the Rodney Howard Browne meetings and that the stuff had broke out in his church in the following weeks. John was hoping that something might break out with us too. We were only too happy to travel over. We were a church plant out of the Toronto Airport and we started in 1992. In those days there were three Vineyard Churches in Toronto. One Down Town church, Scarborough vineyard church to the east and the Airport Church. We were one big happy family. Because we were small in number we did special meetings, conferences etc, together. The year before most of our leadership teams joined and had headed to Nicaragua for a short term missions trip. We had genuine love and fellowship with each other. Since leaving the Vineyard churches I have read a fair bit of analysis from the critics. Some make out that the Toronto Blessing was one huge conspiracy to lead the body of Christ into heresy. Heresy and apostasy I suspect may well be the result, but none of these destinations were intentional. I am honestly convinced that the leaders in the Vineyard churches are genuine born-again Christians who love the Lord, but have fallen into deception. They have not loved the Lord enough to keep His commandments. They have failed to obey the scriptures and have been led astray by our longing for something bigger and brighter and more exciting and dynamic. I am guilty of this sin also. I have preached renewal in Korea, the United Kingdom, the USA and here in Canada. I am genuinely repentant and in writing this story I would ask you the bride and body of Christ to forgive me. Especially the Pentecostal/Charismatic Christians among you, for you are my immediate family theologically. I am an evangelical Christian, I always have been but I do not believe in the cessation of the spiritual gifts at the end of the apostolic era. I believe that it was my evangelical roots (my family are Baptists and I was born again in the presbyterian Church.) that started to open my eyes to problems with this so called renewal. In hind sight I look back and think how could I have been so blind? I laughed at people acting like dogs and pretending to urinate on the columns of the TACF building. I watched people pretend to be animals, bark, roar, cluck, pretend to fly as if they had wings, perpetually act drunk and sing silly songs. How I thought that any of this was from the Holy Spirit of God amazes me today. It was loud irreverent and blasphemous to the Holy God of the Bible. I suppose in my mind I reasoned that as long as they did not teach any thing in direct violation to scripture then it was what we called the exotic. This is a buzz word for manifestations that could not be justified from a biblical perspective. I was taught from the pulpit that we had two options. The order of the nursery full of life and messy or the order of the graveyard, very orderly but dead! As a young immature pastor I wanted life with mess. I failed to remember that God wants us to become mature and grow up in him. I became disconcerted by the prophetic words that came forth especially one by Carol Arnott in which she had her bride experience where she was taken into the very presence of Jesus and said that the love that she experienced was even better than sex! I was shocked in my spirit and thought how can one compare the love of God with sex? When we suspected that demons were running riot in our services John Arnott would teach that we should ask are they coming or going. If they

are leaving then that is ok! John would defend the chaos by saying that we ought not be afraid of being deceived, if we have asked the Holy Spirit to come and fill us then how could Satan come and deceive us? This would make Satan very strong and God very weak! He said that we needed to have more faith in a Big God to protect us than in a Big Devil to deceive us. This sounded very convincing but was totally contrary to scripture for Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all warn us about the power of deceiving spirits and especially so in the last days. Again we did not love God enough to obey His Word and the result was that we opened ourselves up to lying spirits. May God have mercy upon us! Finally the penny dropped for me as I was rolling around one night 'drunk in the Spirit' as we would say. I started singing and as I rolled around the floor the Nursery Rhyme 'Mary had a little lamb its fleece was white as snow.' came to mind. I sang this in a mocking spirit and instantly my heart told me this was a demon. Instantly I repented and was in total shock. How could a demon get into me? Did I not love God? Was I not zealous for the things of God? Was I not nuts about Jesus? I knew that an unclean spirit had just manifested through me and I was guilty of great sin. After this experience I stayed away from TACF. I did not go back there any more. I did not possess the conviction to denounce the whole experience but thought that we where failing to pastor the Blessing well enough. Even after I stopped going over to TACF, I had to pastor the fruit of it. One example was when some of our people returned from a meeting there asking us if we had all received the golden sword of the Lord? I asked them what they were talking about thinking that it was some prophetic reference to the Holy Scriptures but they said, 'no, it's not the Bible, it's an invisible golden sword that only the really pure can receive. If taken in an unrighteous fashion then the Lord would kill you. But if you are holy enough to receive it then you can wield this sword and it will heal AIDS, Cancer etc. and bring salvation. How one wielded this sword was by pretending to have this invisible sword in your hand and motioning to strike people with it when in prayer! I thought while even in deception at this time that the TACF had become Looney bins! This was purportedly first received by Carol Arnott and then given to the ones holy enough to receive it! Another thing was the golden fillings in the teeth. We had people in our assembly peeping down one another's throats looking for the gold fillings that God had placed there to show how much he loved them! In all my time there I only heard one message on repentance given by a visiting speaker from Hong Kong named Jackie Pullinger. It went over like a lead balloon. We were not there to repent, we were there to party in the Lord! After one year into the blessing I spoke out at a pastors meeting and said 'guys we have shaken, rattled, rolled, laughed cried and bought the tee-shirt. But we have no revival, no salvation, no fruit and no increased evangelism so what's the deal?' I was soundly rebuked - who was I to expect to see fruit when the Lord was healing his broken

people? We had been legalistic long enough and God was spending this time restoring his wounded and freeing us from legalism I was told not to push the Lord and the harvest would come in his time.' I knew this was wrong because the Lord had commanded us to go into all the earth and make disciples! Not that everyone should take a sabbatical for who knows how long, while God does some strange new thing! Ultimately I left over something as controversial as the ordination of women. Personally I believe from scripture that women should not be pastors/elders in a local assembly. I could be wrong on this and there is much debate in the Church today but that is my conviction and in the Vineyard churches they were ordaining all the pastors' wives to co pastor with them. I am certainly for women in ministry but believe that the Elder/pastor role in a local assembly has been reserved for men. I did not write scripture but God willing I will have the grace from now on to obey it. So there is my story. I could go on and document much excess, folly, sin and latter day reign teaching that manifest from the prophetic end of this Blessing but others have already done that. We sang about Joel's army and the billion soul revival as if it were one of the Ten Commandments, and as always it was just around the corner. Next month, next year etc. Jesus said that when the son of man returns will he find faith upon the earth? And if he does not return when he does no flesh would be saved but for the sake of the elect he comes. This is a far cry from the dominionism that is being taught all through the vineyard/prophetic/ spiritual warfare movement. I honestly think that they think they are going to take over the whole world! While in the Vineyard I embraced a life verse from the Apostle Paul the phrase do not go beyond what is written! To finish I just want to say sorry for the damage, that I have personally done by teaching things that are not correct biblically. I repent before men as I already have before God. I will not excuse my falling into deception. I did not bother to test things when the scriptures commanded us to do so. Everyone who was there when this thing started knows that what I write is true, they would just come to different conclusions especially if they are still promoting the 'river!' To those in the river I would say swim out, there are things living in the water that will bite you real good! I love the people of TACF and the Vineyard movement but I think that we have much to answer for and may the Lord open your eyes sooner rather than later. I suspect that when this letter goes online I will get bombarded by emails from both camps, some damning me for still believing in the ministry of the Holy Spirit and still walking in deception and some old friends damning me for exposing dirt or being negative about the Lords anointed! Well, the Lord knows my heart and by his grace he will guide me into all truth as I seek to know Christ and him crucified! If you believe that I

walk in sin and error please pray for me that the Lord would forgive me and open my eyes. I will study the word to show my self a work man approved! I would call on all who read this to pray that the Lord would open the eyes of all who have been involved in this deception. Whether leader or follower, we are loved and the Lord is a forgiving God. He says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. I believe we are like the church in Laodicea, we think that we are rich, have prospered and need nothing, we do not realise that we are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind and naked. We must take the Counsel of Jesus and buy gold refined in the fire (which is his suffering, not a false spirit!), white garments to clothe our shameful nakedness and salve for our eyes that we might see again. Jesus is calling us to repentance and thank the Lord that he is, for it will lead us to true restoration with our Father! If God has forgiven me and opened my eyes then he can do it for all those caught in deception too. I will finish with a warning from Paul, he says if you think you are standing firm be careful lest you fall. Sincerely, Paul Gowdy ~LINK to "TORONTO DRINKING SONG" - Put out by some of their main leaders - it is absolutely amazing. Please click on the heading "TORONTO DRINKING SONG" on the Forum at the following websitehttp://www.revivalschool.com [Paul Gowdy's article - 2004-2006. Discernment-Ministries Inc. All Rights Reserved. ~ www.discernment-ministries.org/TheTorontoDeception.htm]

Toronto/Brownsville: Trojan Horse

A Vision From 1974 That Foretells Toronto and Brownsville
MODERATOR: A few people have been questioning why I chose to bring up 'Toronto' at this time. "Surely it is old news?" they say. Sadly, that is not the case. Everywhere I look throughout the Charismatic movement today I see evidence of Toronto-type excesses and manifestations. They come in slightly different forms (-new fads blow through every year). But I tell you, the "children of Toronto" are everywhere. Sometimes it is plain 'silliness' going on - but other times there is real power behind it. However, the other thing that comes into this is the "Youth Revival" scenario. Personally, we are in the midst of adapting our entire ministry to the coming 'StreetRevival' right now. Others are hearing this from God also. And so the basis of our entire

ministry is changing. We are being forced onto a kind-of 'War' footing. I want to tell you, there is no worse nightmare I can imagine than 'Toronto' getting a foot-hold in the new move of God. All those young converts - hungry and susceptible. If they get fed 'Toronto' they will believe it. I have studied Revival history now for over 20 years - and I tell you, Toronto is a "Revival-killer". It has a proven track-record going back centuries. And I cannot imagine a worse fate for the coming Revival, can you? Why do you think the first Great Awakening lasted only three years? (Research the name 'James Davenport', the "old lights" and the "new lights" - and you will find out). Why do you think the 1904 Welsh Revival became a by-word in that nation within just a few years? Read history and there you will see 'Toronto'-type phenomena wrecking Revivals time and time again. Is that what we want for the coming move of God, my friends? From my point of view, if there are leaders who carry that "anointing", they are absolutely UNWELCOME to minister in any way to the young converts that are coming in. -Which is another reason why this issue is so important to discuss at this moment. I believe we are about to enter 'harvest-time' in the West and we simply cannot afford to see it so easily ruined. We need to keep this thing OUT! (Mind you, we cannot afford to be too heavy on 'minor' excesses either. The Holy Spirit has to be given room to move and there will always be some 'messiness' involved. It is a question of BALANCE). By the way, you may be interested in the following brief account that a lady named Patti sent me today: "I inadvertently got prayed over by some people who had received "The Toronto Blessing". I ended up that night with uncontrollable flopping and shaking of my limbs, being drunk in spirit and uncontrollable laughter. At the time it felt right. But later as time went on, these manifestations came at inopportune times and were uncontrollable. My arms and legs would shake when trying to pray for people or when just sitting in church. My legs would give out and I would have to catch my balance just to stand upright while worshipping. It soon became clear to me that this was not the Holy Spirit and so I repented of allowing myself to receive this spirit and asked God to take it away from me. Praise Him, He did!" Below is an interesting vision from 1974 which may also relate to this whole thing. Moderator: Andrew Strom http://www.revivalschool.com *****************************************

NOTE from Arthur Eedle: Thank you for your article on Toronto. In the mid 90s I sent out similar warnings, and received some flak as a result, although here in England, the influence of Toronto has never been as great as in the USA. I am attaching a vision [below] I received in 1974, which speaks for itself. You may find it useful, especially as it was given to me long before the "crazy manifestations"......

"A DECEPTION made of SUGAR"

- extracts by Arthur Eedle. Vision in 1974 Twenty years ago this month the Lord gave me one of the strangest visions I have ever received, and on reflection I still believe it to be one of the most important, revealing the subtlety of the enemy's intrusion into the end-time works of God. The vision became the subject of our very first edition of The Prophetic Telegraph, which we published on 27th June 1986. In view of the way things have gone in the western world in the last twenty years, we now believe that it is timely to review this vision in the light of developments. The Lord said that in the last days He would send "strong delusion" to those "who received not the love of the truth." This was the basis of the vision, which may now be set down once again for analysis. The Crown Agents in London had appointed me to teach in the King George V School, Hong Kong.... I was told there were more millionaires per square mile in Hong Kong than anywhere else in the world, and after being there for some time, I could well believe it. Looking back I now believe that what happened next was related to the Hong Kong way of life, as it was going to influence the newly forming charismatic churches in the west. Except that the luxury relates mainly to the spiritual realm rather than the material realm. As I sat looking at this amazing scene I began to see something else, and because of its strangeness my mind was alerted immediately to the fact that God was conveying truth in visionary form. I saw a duck, and I knew that it had been made of icing sugar because a hand was smoothing down the surface with a knife. When all was complete, the strange thing padded along on its webbed feet as though alive, and settled down on a flat surface somewhere. But if this was strange, the next part of the vision took me even more by surprise, because I saw dozens of people arriving at the duck, and it was only then that I realised how large it was. It must have been all of forty feet tall! The people were excited about the coming of the duck, and some of those who were braver than the rest even went up to it and touched it. One of them licked his fingers and the taste was sweet. Breaking a fragment from the surface he ate it, and jumped for joy. Others gained confidence and followed his example until they were all delirious with excitement. I saw them singing, dancing, throwing up their hands in the air, and embracing each other. The festive atmosphere was its own advertisement. People arrived in droves, pushing and shoving, and climbing over the duck with the aid of ladders in an effort to obtain a handful of icing sugar and join in the fun.

This continued for some time until one man gave a very loud shout, which brought everything to a halt. They saw him pointing to a hole that had appeared in the icing sugar. It was therefore not solid as they had originally thought. No one had imagined the sugar icing might give out sooner or later. After this, caution was exercised in the eating. Everyone agreed to ration what was left. But they found to their joy that even the smallest taste produced the same effects as a handful, and they wished they had learned this lesson earlier. In the process of time many more holes appeared. Some tried looking inside the duck, but all was pitch dark. Nothing could be seen. Gradually the duck became wafer thin. All of a sudden the crash came as the remainder of the duck disintegrated in a cloud of very fine dust. The crowd became silent, waiting and watching. It took a while for the dust to settle, and then I had a shock. Inside the duck there was a terrible black beast about forty feet long, in shape like a scorpion with bulbous green eyes. It also had wings similar to those of a dragonfly. I fully expected the crowd to disperse at great speed, but instead they became delirious with excitement once again, and accepted the beast as their accredited leader. If anything, the excitement became greater than before. At this point the vision changed, and I saw the hand once again. It was outstretched with some white pills on the palm. A small number of people were arriving to receive one, which they ate. The result showed on their faces as an inner sense of peace and tranquillity. And then the two visions merged. Once again I saw people taking the icing sugar from the duck and jumping about in excitement. The group fromthe second vision were approaching, and mingling with the crowd, warning them, "Don't eat it! It's dangerous!" But there was very little response. Some shouted at them, "Go away, you prophets of doom! Don't tell us that YOU have the Spirit of the Lord. Where is your joy?" Disheartened they eventually wandered away, feeling a dull ache in the pits of their stomachs. Later on, when I had made a record of the vision, the Lord spoke to me, and I wrote down the message, as follows:"The hand that formed the bitter pill fashioned also the duck. This is my work, and by it my name will be magnified. Twenty centuries of progress has not changed the nature of man, and neither has it changed mine, says the Lord. My Son is the Way, the Truth and the Life. All those who reject the bitter pill of the cross will find themselves prey to the lie. I will send them strong delusion, and they will believe it and rejoice in it because their hearts are not set upon the Way. They will accept falsehood in a season of careless security, indulging in spiritual flirtation with powers of darkness dressed up in acceptable guise. They longed for sweet things and I gave them sugar, but it was not in tune with my heart, says the Lord. And each bite of the duck they take, so grows the beast within. And each bite of the duck they take, so blind they become to the truth. And then, when antifaith has done its final work the beast is revealed to the world, enthroned within the temple of God, blasphemously parading divine nature. Mark well my words, says the Lord, there is but one great sign for this world, one marvel, one miracle of challenge that I will accept, and it is the sign of the prophet Jonah. And those who take the bitter pill shall find loneliness, derision and sorrow. And they shall walk the way of

their Master, learning of His sorrows, sharing His suffering, conforming to His death. But I shall raise them to life, life on a higher plane, and they shall take my message to the nations. This is my sign, and this shall be their reward. All other ways, however right they may appear to man, shall be disallowed in my sight, says the Lord. And those who eat the duck shall refuse this glory when it is revealed for it shall be folly to them. Choose therefore whilst it is still possible, choose the salt and reject the sugar, says the Lord, for the time is now short." I should like to display a brief snatch from another vision, one which my wife received in June 1969. She saw a dam across a narrow ravine, and behind the dam there was to start with just a small trickle of water, but over a lengthy period of time the water rose to produce a large lake, and eventually filled the ravine to the top of the dam. At this stage, the dam burst, and the waters flowed out, bright and iridescent, into the valley beyond. The Lord gave the interpretation. The water represented the faith of His people. And the effect of faith was twofold. Firstly, the faith had an effect in the believer's life and his walk. But secondly, the faith had another effect, which was not appreciated by the believer at all. In heavenly places, each act of faith was like the water behind the dam. God was preparing for a yet future day when, in His Kingdom, He could liberate the combined effect of all the faith of His elect, and it would flow out to a needy world. I believe the two visions are essentially the same in their interpretation. But the dam refers to God's work, whereas the duck refers to the counterfeit work. The people who ate the pills - These have fed on the true word, and have seen the nature of the evil. They pray for the others, and whenever occasion arises, they approach them and warn them, but usually to no avail. Hence the sweetness in the mouth gave way to bitterness of soul at the outcome of their endeavours. The Lord's hand - Some might be upset when they realise the Lord was the One who designed the duck. But it must be remembered that in olden days, after King Saul's disobedience, the Lord withdrew His Spirit from him, and gave him an evil spirit instead. In each of these cases, the Lord takes full responsibility for what happens, even though Satan was the donor of Saul's evil spirit, as he is also the architect of the duck. Those who tried to warn the people of the dangers they were facing, only received reviling comments. "Where is your joy?" they asked. But how can you approach such people with a smile, when your task is to warn them of danger? They were drunk with the wine of intoxication, produced by the effects of eating the sugary sweet words of the false prophet, and enjoying the effects. The Holy Spirit's ministry to believers is essentially towards their re-creation in the Lord's own image. But in these days, at the latter end of the twentieth century, vast numbers of believers look to the Holy Spirit for power, signs and wonders, which instead of crucifying the flesh, tend to feed it. Oh how easy it is to be captivated by all the manifestations of supernatural power today. Many Christians go "conference hopping" in the hope of being present at yet another occasion of "blessing", where they can witness all manner of effects, not just by the preacher and those called to the front, but

throughout the auditorium. If believers persist in praying to the Holy Spirit for signs and manifestations, the Holy Spirit cannot answer. It is contrary to the purpose for which the Spirit has come. But there is always "another" who "comes in his own name", and "him you will hear." The crucial decision must be made. Is the flesh being fed, or crucified? The Lord spoke to my wife some years ago saying, "In these days treat the miraculous very lightly. Look rather to the LIVES of those who profess to have spiritual powers." We have found it a most valuable word. It is amazing how hard one may become when striving constantly for "power". But those who are striving for mastery (lawfully), "walk in the Spirit and have no confidence in the flesh." All such are progressively broken on the Rock which is Christ, and in brokenness they learn to be gentle, even when acting as salt. Two final words. First of all, over the years since 1986, when we first started publishing The Prophetic Telegraph, we have frequently warned our readers about these growing tendencies within the charismatic movement. But lest any should think that we doctrinally reject manifestations of God's Holy Spirit in these end days, our testimony is that my wife and I received the baptism of the Spirit in 1967, and have used the gift of speaking in tongues in our private prayer lives ever since. We have also been God's instruments in areas of deliverance ministry, healing, and in receiving visions and revelations from the Lord. Normally we should not wish to advertise this fact, but it seems necessary to say so at this juncture to avoid being misunderstood. And secondly, over this period of time we have certainly been too strident and even harsh in our advertisement of the words of warning given to us. The Lord has graciously revealed these areas t us, (mainly myself), and where necessary letters of apology have been dispatched. It is good therefore to reveal this publicly now. My sincere prayer and desire for all those who are being sucked in to this present hyped up atmosphere of spiritual worship, is that the Holy Spirit will bring them through to a stable ground where they can appreciate the "way of the cross" that Jesus taught. I have no antagonism towards any of God's people, no matter what their persuasion is. If God has saved them through the precious blood of His own beloved Son, then they are my brothers and sisters in Christ. May God teach me how to love, and yet retain integrity based upon the revelation granted, until the end come. Derek Prince on the Torronto Blessing & Brownsville Deception: http://www.geocities.com/lostorfound_2/Deception.htm

A Vision of True and False Revival

Patrick Ersig - 3/04/06 www.revivalarmy.com

Here is the account of a vision from God that I received regarding true and counterfeit revival. This vision occurred on March 4th 2006 just to clarify this was vision not a dream I was fully awake and speaking the vision I saw as it was occurring to my wife. This vision was spoken on March 18th at The Gathering in Kansas City. (not word for word as written but spontaneously as prompted by the Holy Spirit.) The vision Everything was black and I saw one person walking at a semi-brisk pace. Not fast walking, but a slight cadence above normal pace. Walking with purpose. This person was walking straight and sure upright and strong solemn and serious, like a revolutionary - a warrior a light to darkness. I then saw a couple more people and then others in the distance and they were bright and shining against the blackness that was all around. They all walked the same way solemn and serious and the Lord spoke and said, These are my remnant who are walking in holiness, righteousness, obedience, brokenness and utter submission to MY WILL watch what I am doing Patrick Then I saw the individuals begin to unite in small groups of two to three at first and then more came and the groups grew to five and even ten and the light intensified greatly. It was beautiful like a sunset over the mountains or a sunrise on the ocean, a rose in full bloom. What I saw next made me burst into tears and sobs to the point that I couldnt continue to describe what I was seeing. My wife keep saying What?!, what is it? What to do you see?! after a few minutes a was able to control the weeping to explain what I saw happening. As the Lord was drawing together His remnant into these small groups the power God came down like in the book of Acts the lame were walking, the blind were seeing, the deaf were hearing, (literally and figuratively) and persecution fuelled the fire! This end times HOLY and RIGHTEOUS remnant of serious and solemn warriors and revolutionaries walked in the deep darkness of America and her backslidden lukewarm churches with apostolic glory and power not seen since the book of Acts to proclaim the true Gospel of Jesus Christ repentance and holiness and freedom from sin! The Lord spoke and said, This is the revival that I am bringing about and it starts with the individuals who have been called out to personal revival and are walking straight and sure upright and strong solemn and serious, like revolutionaries, warriors, lights to darkness. My remnant is walking in holiness, righteousness, obedience, brokenness and utter submission to MY WILL and I am drawing them together. Then the vision switched Now I saw what looked like a dimly lit movie or a video shot with poor lighting. I saw clips of people dancing and shaking. I saw people falling down, shouting, jumping, and singing. There were huge multitudes rather then the few and many, many were coming in large groups that filled large auditoriums and stadiums instead of small groups of individuals being drawn together. Even some of the lights that were in the first part of the vision were drawn to this part of the vision. I saw dancing and clapping, shaking, shouting, strong and powerful emotionalism and sensationalism. Soulish and fleshy

spirits claimed to be the Holy Spirit. Great miracles abounded signs and wonders. People proclaimed, This is the revival we have been waiting and praying for!!! This is the revival we have heard prophesied!!! This is the outpouring of the Holy Spirit a great move of God! But the Lord spoke and said, Patrick this is not from me this is from Satan it is a counterfeit!! And many will be fooled and tricked by this clever deception from the enemy! After I had this vision I spent hours on the internet trying to find the places that I saw in the video clips. I look at numerous church websites and church building photos for I new I would know immediately when I saw the place for the vision was clear. I never did find the place but I knew I would see it again sometime in the future. That time came in May of 2008 when I was viewing video clips from the Lakeland Florida Healing Revival I almost fell out of my seat when unexpectedly saw some of the exact same video clips on Godtube that I saw in the vision. Then the vision switched again Now I saw both visions side by side split screen so to speak. They both grew in intensity at an equal rate - as the true would grow in power, the false would grow in numbers and as the true would grow in numbers, the false would grow in false signs and wonders. The Lord spoke and said, This is not a vision of the future, but this has already begun and will grow as the days pass. I am doing this now and the enemy is coming against it at this very moment. Conclusion The Lord is bringing about an end times revival of which the like we have never seen and it begins with you. The Lord is calling you to be separate, to holiness and righteousness unto the Lord and to walk in obedience and utter submission to His will. Be free from sin, be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect, be dead to flesh and alive IN Christ. Walk sober and solemn and serious before the Lord with a reverent and holy fear of God. If you are looking and waiting for some big corporate outpouring of emotionalism and signs and wonders you are going to miss the coming revival. The revival starts with you! Seek the Lord and press into Him closer everyday. Allow the Blood and Grace of Jesus to break the bonds of your flesh and produce Holy and Righteous living in your life. Ask the Lord to show you what it is in your life that is keeping you from that which is perfect no matter how small or how painful; ask the Lord to expose everything that is keeping you from being closer to Him and bring Glory to Him and His kingdom and deeply renounce all that He shows you. Live your life as a living sacrifice - a living drink offering poured out before the Lord for His glory and honor. There are many things that are cultural, societal and religious that keep us separated from God and walking in His Spirit. Pray for God to bring these things to light and put them to death no matter how hard it may be. If you dont realize that the revival the Lord is doing begins with you individually, then you are going to miss it! The Lord is calling you today, repent for your lukewarmness and your lackadaisical

attitude toward sin in your own life and those who are perishing and plunging into hell all around you everyday! The Lord is calling you today to allow the Blood of Jesus and the grace of God to produce holiness and rivers of righteousness in your life that you maybe salt to a decaying world and light to the darkness that prevails. What will you do? The Lord is calling you right now to make up your mind to love Him with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, take up your cross, die to self and follow HIM - forsaking ALL and seeking after Him with all that you are and have. Come out and be separate in holy, righteous obedience unto God! WARNING DO NOT be fooled by these sensual, emotional counterfeits that are and will be popping up that these people and churches call revival. IT IS A TRICK FROM THE ENEMY! When you hear that revival has broken out in the next town or the next state or even in your own city please remember this warning. There will be much singing and dancing and shouting and many things will sound as though they are true. There will be great surges of emotion that will cause people to fall down and jump and shout, cry and weep but this not from God. Many will be crying out in joy, "Peace, peace". But God's Servants will have discernment above and beyond any gift and a willingness to die than lie - despite the increase of signs and wonders from all of the counterfeit moves around them in the 'churches'. If the "revival" you are in is not serious and reverent, holy and righteous, and the Love and reverent fear toward God are not the only things you see, then RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, and warn everyone you know. These spirits are strong and extremely powerful get out of the building and dont be fooled by the signs and wonders. Please I am begging you to remember this for I know that there will be many who are fooled and even (if possible) drawn away from the real to the counterfeit, but I also know that there will be some who read this warning and remember it and are spared. The true revival army will look like small bands of revolutionaries or Special Forces with an end times mission to complete and Satans counterfeit will resemble a band of wild Indians or tribal warriors dancing shouting battle cries. The true revival army will attack the enemy at it strong hold, sin their mission will be the souls of men through the power of the Holy Spirit they will be concerned with setting people free from the bondage of sin through the message of the cross and will watch strong holds of sin topple. Satans counterfeit will go after places and methods of sin they will try to legislate morality and get laws change, which results in forced morality and no salvations. Gods army will seek to save that which is lost in the streets and alley, around the abortion clinics and place of sin for every salvation equals one less abortion and on less patron Satans army will try to change the laws to prevent sin but result in the salvation of no one. Satans counterfeits will try to change the "laws" to prevent sin and work through the kingdoms and powers of this world to make their kingdom of "christ" on earth (trying by 'laws only' to stop abortion, etc.), but this result in the salvation of no one, just forced morality. For they love this present world. Whosoever loves his life shall lose it. Whosoever loses his life for MY sake, shall find it. Satan you are on notice! God is preparing a revival army that is going to tear down the strongholds of your kingdom and Jesus is preparing a bride for Himself that is spotless and pure! GOD is calling out to you! God is calling to make a decision right now what will you do?!?!

(Note from David: More false waves of revival are coming to confuse those who do not respect the Word so that they may discern the true Spirit of God.) Word to Amos Scaggs - 5/15/03: "The might wind of revival -- A Mighty Sound of Abundant Rain ushers in the Messiah but I'm not in it ." (False Religion-False JesusApostate Church.)

Trojan Horse Revival

David Eells A strong delusion is washing over Apostate Christianity. It is people forsake the Word to follow the spirit. I have a friend who use to be Mr. America. He and another brother were telling me when I first met them that they always heard from "the spirit" vocally. Some of the brethren and myself began to question them and found that "the spirit" was not in agreement with the Word. We told them that this could not be the Holy Spirit. We asked them if they would submit to deliverance. We also told them they had nothing to lose since the Holy Spirit cannot be cast out of anyone. They were a little proud and wanted to prove their point. So we commanded the demons to leave and they never heard the audible voice of God again (Not that God doesn't sometimes speak audibly). Immediately afterwards they came to respect the true Spirit of the Word. This strong delusion is seen in people who appear to love the Lord while they forsake the Word to follow "the spirit." The Lord said His Words were "spirit and truth" and that that truth would set you free. He said if you didn't obey His Word you did not "Agape" Him. If you did obey them He and the Father would come to live in you. {Jn.14:23} Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love (Agape) me, he will keep my word: and my Father will love (Agape) him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. {24} He that loveth (Agape) me not keepeth not my words: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me. Notice: "If a man 'Agape' me, he will keep my word." This is because "God is Agape" and He is "the Word made flesh" so you cannot separate Agape from the Word. This is how we know false spirits. By the Spirit, an Apostle who wrote the WORD said: {1 Jn.4:6} We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he who is not of God heareth us not. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. {7} Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth (Agape = "keep my Word") is begotten (born) of God, and knoweth God. {8} He that loveth (Agape = "keep my Word") not knoweth not God; for God is love (Agape). Notice that everyone who is born of God keeps His commandments and is Agape like Him. Without keeping the Word you cannot know the true spirit of God for He is Agape. There are many spirits who lead God's people contrary to the "Agape" keeping of His Word. This is the strong delusion of the

Toronto/Brownsville spirit. It deceives them to accept only a "phileo" love, which is an affectionate, emotional, love, in the place of "Agape" love of God. The devil has a purpose behind this. You can have this emotionally based "phileo" kind of love without obedience but it ends in damnation. Jesus asked Peter in John 21 if he "Agaped" Him enough to obey Him and forget his fishing career to feed His sheep. Peter answered that he only had "phileo" love. Emotions are good when submitted to the Spirit but they are also the foundation for all sin. For instance: Anger leads to wrath and lust leads to fornication. "Phileo" in God is very good because His emotions are submitted to His Spirit but "phileo" in man is easily manipulated by the devil. God never commanded us to "phileo" Him but He did command us many times to "Agape" Him. Deceiving spirits are heightening the "phileo" love in the Toronto/Brownsville infected people to make them believe that they "Agape" Him when they do not obey Him. This destroys the rock of the Word to live on and replaces it with the sands of their own opinions. (Mt.7:21} Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. {22} Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? {23} And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. {24} Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock: {25} and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. {26} And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand: {27} and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof. Those who are the true anointed of the Lord have His Word in their mouth and stand on the Rock of obedience to it. (2 Sam.23:1)... David the son of Jesse saith, And the man who was raised on high saith, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: {2} The Spirit of Jehovah spake by me, And his word was upon my tongue. {3} The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spake to me: One that ruleth over men righteously, That ruleth in the fear of God, {4} [He shall be] as the light of the morning, when the sun riseth, A morning without clouds... Now something even worse has come to pass. The Toronto/Brownsville infected people have degenerated into "eros" love toward God. Eros was the Greek god of love and desire. He is usually depicted as a young winged boy with bow and arrows to shoot into the hearts of men which would rouse them to desire. The IHOP (International House of Prayer) music and others spawned by this false revival for instance displays a physical attraction for the Lord and His physical attraction for us. This will lead them even deeper into deception, lust, fornication and self will than before. Recently I saw a demon in a brother and then I heard him speak of ignoring the Word to follow the "spirit." This is common in the Toronto/Brownsville brethren. The other elders also felt this and we cast these demons out. This brother was then convicted by

the Lord about the IHOP music he had been listening to. He brought it to me and played some of it. I heard the sexual connotations and told him that the mistaken love represented in the lyrics was "eros love" and was deceptively replacing God's "Agape love." It was then that he showed me this article he was bringing to me, which confirmed in the first words that this was eros love. I also recognized in the lyrics the "fire chants," that were so common to the Toronto/Brownsville deception. It was common in the music for them to sing that the fire burned in their spirit or soul but never in their flesh. This is the exact opposite of what true Christian desire is. Here is the article that confirmed my word:

JESUS AS "LOVER"?
by Andrew Strom Is there a problem with a "Romantic Lover" Jesus? ABOUT THE "ROMANCING JESUS" MOVEMENT: What does the term "Passion for Jesus" mean to you? Would it surprise you to learn that whole Christian movements are now using it to mean a kind-of "eros" love for Jesus - a 'passion' for Him similar to what an earthly husband and wife have for each other? (From the word "eros" we ultimately get the word 'erotic'). And what does the term "Intimacy with Jesus" mean to you? Would it surprise you to learn that many are now using it to mean sensual "romantic" encounters with Jesus - with Him as the Bridegroom and them as the 'Bride'? You may think that such unscriptural practices must be out on the "fringe" somewhere. Surely they cannot be part of mainstream Christianity? Well, look around you, because this stuff is now everywhere. I live very close to one of the world's largest and most influential prayer centers here in Kansas City - and it has been a major source of this "Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching for many years. And now it is all around the world. At this center you will find hundreds of young men and women who will tell you about being "ravished" for Jesus, "kissing" Jesus and 'swooning' in His arms, etc. Their entire understanding of "WHO GOD IS" and their relationship with Him is being shaped by this teaching. -And it is an utter twisting of Scripture. Why is it important to have a right concept of "WHO GOD IS"? Why does it matter so much? Well, this one thing shapes everything else about our faith and our relationship with the Lord. At the heart of a lot of cults and deceptions is a fundamental misapprehension of the true character and nature of God - ie. "Who He is - How we approach Him". It really does affect EVERYTHING. Now, imagine that there is a new doctrine that re-invents our very understanding of God - a doctrine that sweeps the world and catches up many young people. So, is this new

doctrine based on a careful exegesis of the New Testament, you ask? -No! To your surprise you find that it is largely based on "spiritualizing" the SONG OF SOLOMON. Yes, that's right. An entire re-inventing of our relationship with God based not on the New Testament, but on Solomon's love-poetry about the body and breasts and comeliness of one of his 700 wives. -Wonderful poetry to be sure, but what kind of basis is that for such a drastic change in our basic beliefs? (So is there no benefit to be gained from an 'allegorical' understanding of the Song Of Solomon? -Certainly there is! Hudson Taylor and others used it this way. But that is not the point I am making. The real issue is this:- Should we re-invent our entire understanding of "Who God is" and how we approach Him - to fit in with a tiny book of semi-erotic poetry from the Old Testament? Should this become our dominant understanding of God?) As history shows us again and again, to the equal degree that we lose our grasp of the real character and nature of God - to this same degree we will lose genuine Christianity. You cannot have the true New Testament Faith if you have lost the true New Testament Jesus. -Which is why it is so serious when people say that in the West today we have invented a kind-of "American Jesus" to suit our self-centered, "me"-focused lifestyle. They point out that today you mostly hear of a Jesus who exists to make you "happy" rather than holy, a Jesus who is always a "friend" but never a Judge, a Jesus who does not any longer hate sin or demand repentance, but only wants you prosperous and 'blessed'. This is a Jesus that utterly suits our selfish Western mindset, but is found nowhere in the Bible. And the new "Jesus As Lover" doctrine is just another twist in the ongoing tale of modern Christians distorting the character and nature of God. Does Jesus love us? Of course He does - more than words can tell. And are we to love Him? Of course! -With all our heart, mind, soul and strength! But does this mean that we are to approach Him with a sensual "romantic" love, like some adolescent schoolgirl, "swooning" and smooching with our 'lover' Jesus? Is that what God's love means? Are we to exchange 'agape' for emotional "eros" and act like Jesus's "girlfriend" here on earth? (-Men as well as women?) God forbid! Of course we know that in Scripture the corporate body of Christ (particularly at the end of the age) is described as the "Bride" of Christ. But isn't it obvious that this is talking about the 'CORPORATE' Body - not individual Christians? Are we each to become Jesus's little "girlfriends" here on earth - or is it the "WHOLE BODY" that is to one day be the Bride of Christ? -Clearly it is the latter. The effect of this doctrine on young men is particularly distressing. To describe it as "effeminate" is quite an understatement. As it is, the modern church is already known for being an "anti-masculine" zone, with its flower displays, pink walls, mauve carpets, emotion- laden music, etc. A lot of commentators point to this when discussing the low

attendance of men in our churches. But this new doctrine takes this theme to undreamtof depths. Can you imagine zealous praying young men who relate to Jesus (ie. another MALE) as a "lover" whom they kiss and 'swoon' over? Can you imagine what happens when this becomes their basic approach to God? -And this is just the beginning of the genderbending weirdness that is starting to become "normal" in this movement. (Some are in such deception that they even have experiences of "Jesus" kissing them on the mouth, etc. The movement itself warns against "sensual encounters" but their very teaching leads directly to this kind of thing. Deceiving spirits are always super-active in this kind of environment. Where do you think the famed 'incubus' and 'succubus' originate from?) The ironic thing is that a lot of the people who are into this doctrine claim to be "seeking Revival". They really think that this is the kind of 'intimacy' that God desires. It is greatly influencing the modern 'Prayer' movement, the Prophetic movement and the 'Worship' movement (-which explains the recent rash of songs with "Song of Solomon" type themes: "I kiss you with the kisses of my mouth", "Take me into your chamber", etc). I find their talk of "Revival" particularly ironic, because I have studied Revival for many years, and I am aware that all the old Revivalists prayed to a God who is very different from what is being presented here. -And their understanding of "WHO GOD IS" was utterly crucial to their obtaining Revival. They prayed to a God of holiness and majesty and awe - a God of glory who hates sin, yet sent His son to die for sinners. The God that the old Revivalists prayed to was the "throne room" God that Isaiah described- "I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple... And one cried to another and said, Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts: The whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke." (Is 6:1-5). This is the "throneroom" God who is described again in Revelation chapter 4 - where we are told that the four beasts cry, "Holy, holy, holy" day and night without ceasing, and the 24 elders cast down their crowns before His throne - over and over again. It is "HOLINESS" that is the chief characteristic of God! No other characteristic is ever repeated three times together in the Bible - let alone over and over, day and night! -"HOLY, HOLY, HOLY." And actually, the full title of the book of Revelation is the "Revelation of Jesus Christ". So in other words, it is a 'revealing' of who Jesus is and what He is really like. And when John (the 'beloved' disciple) first sees the glorified Christ in Revelation 1, we are told that such is His terror-inducing holiness and glory that John fell at his feet "as though dead." -This is the true Jesus - as He really is. In every true Revival, it is the God of majesty who reveals himself. For Revival is the "Glory of God" coming down. It is His very 'throne room' presence coming down amongst men. Thus, even His own children should approach Him with awe. And if we

do not pray to this God, then we should not expect Revival at all. -That is one of the basic lessons of Revival history. -We must pray to the 'RIGHT GOD' if we are going to see true Revival. Incidentally, the 'Bride of Christ' in Revelation is described as a 'holy city' - a "new Jerusalem" coming down from heaven. (Rev 21). So it is clearly a 'CORPORATE' entity that exists at the end of the age. -Not some individualized "girlfriend of Jesus" in the here-and-now. It is a very serious thing to tamper with our understanding of 'WHO GOD IS' and how we relate to Him. In a lot of ways it is like preaching "another Jesus". -It really is that bad. If you hear phrases today like 'Lovesick for Jesus', 'Bridal Paradigm', "Bridal intimacy", "Inflamed heart", 'Romancing', "Ravished", 'Fascinated', etc, then you can be pretty sure that you are being exposed to this deceptive doctrine. I believe it is serious error, and I urge you to flee from it as far as you can, my friends. READERS REPLY TO THE ABOVE ARTICLE: "D--" writes: I ran into this a few weeks ago at our home fellowship. A woman whom I see to be very Spirit filled, was talking to us at the dinner table about being taken into the "upper chambers" where Jesus laid her down on a bed of roses (because He is the Rose of Sharon He can do that, she said), and that He made love to her. She described to me this whole scene as if it were out of a romance novel. The thought of Jesus actually making love to me made me sick... I was actually disheartened, grieved and shocked that she was talking about this. What gets me is that her friends who were with her all agreed as if this was sound biblical doctrine. [NOTE: The above email is not from Kansas City - but rather from elsewhere in the USA. It is a good example of what is happening as this doctrine spreads around the world. Please note that the prayer center in Kansas City does NOT teach in any way that we should have sexual or 'physical' encounters with Jesus. However, their teaching certainly lays the groundwork for it - and is the ultimate cause of it, in my opinion. Their claim is that it is "immature" believers who are misusing and distorting their teaching. Well yes - of course! But they are actually preaching it to thousands of "immature" believers themselves! In fact, this seems to be their "target" audience. The hundreds of young people at their own prayer center boast an average age of 22 years, reportedly. So yes - a whole lot of "immature" believers are being greatly influenced by this doctrine. Tell me then - whose fault is this? Is it right for the KC leadership to simply wash its hands of the evil effects that this doctrine is having around the world? Isn't this actually the "fruit" of this teaching? -Isn't it producing "bad fruit" wherever it goes?] "J----" writes:

I just went to a ladies retreat two weeks ago and the theme was this same "lover Jesus" as portrayed in a book they used called, "With an Everlasting Love"... It was so Godless and selfish and full of "eros", putting thoughts and feelings in whoever reads it that certainly did not bring glory to God... I now have the opportunity to confront the pastor's wife about this teaching that literally every woman fell for (except me!) and was "wooed" by their sensuality as women and the need for love, that they sucked it right up. "R---" writes: I moved here to KC 2 years ago to attend [the Prayer Center]... I have been so confused by the whole up-sweep of the "Bridal Paradigm" and ravished heart of Jesus and Song of Solomon. I cannot relate to Jesus as romantic lover, nor do I want to!! I am trying to have clean thoughts and a pure heart. I want a Godly husband to be that for me, to model Christ's love and headship. All my friends tell me, "Jesus is your husband - let Him be your first love and your provider". As if I should shun men and give up on the idea of marriage. The Editor of a Prophetic Newsletter - who follows the whole movement closely - writes: I too have been concerned about this for a while. In particular I have seen much written about intimacy without any reference to obeying the revealed will of God. Jesus said, "If you love me, you will obey my commands." The intimacy emphasis is not just out of balance, it is dangerously soulish, promising emotional experiences and opening up the way to deceiving spirits if pursued too far. "C---" writes: What's amazing is how the presence of this teaching is like yeast. For a few years I was among believers who had absorbed 'bridal paradigm' teaching out of KC. It had a weird way of rubbing off. Even though I'd never even encountered it myself directly, for awhile I'd unwittingly absorbed some of it & had some dreams I now know came from unclean spirits. Thankfully my discernment antennaes began picking up on & rejecting the unholy nature of all this. Like many such excesses, it's the mixture that results when deception is mingled with the pure revelation of the Spirit that's so very, very deadly. "L---" writes: There is a strange message behind this Bridal Paradigm. -It was shown at the CALL in Kansas City. I was there. I witnessed this. There was a call to all those young people who were in attendance at this KC gathering and a few older - to pledge a marriage covenant right then that night to be MARRIED to Christ. There was a Marriage Canopy held up for a marriage procession as hundreds marched under it as to become covenantly married to Christ. They made it seem so righteous and holy - So - many threw away their discernment and followed the leaders - forgetting that the marriage actually takes place in heaven at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

CBN NEWS REPORT - JAN 6, 2002: "THE CALL" IN KANSAS CITY: A Marriage Covenant with Jesus. By Wendy Griffith, CBN News Reporter. Some 20,000 mostly young people packed the Kansas City Convention Center on New Year's Eve for a wedding ceremony unlike any other... as each person who came embarked on a marriage covenant with the Bridegroom of Heaven... From noon until midnight they danced and sang, fasted and prayed, and got ready to get married to Jesus. "There's going to be a wedding and God is raising up friends of the Bridegroom to prepare the church, there's going to be a wedding!" One by one, thousands of men and women, young and old, made their vows and walked under the prayer shawl symbolizing their commitment to Jesus. [A COMMENTATOR NOTES: The huppah is in fact an integral part of a binding WEDDING CEREMONY between man and woman; therefore what these young people were doing was getting married - but to whom? The Bible tells us that the marriage of the Lamb takes place "in heaven" and only at the Day of Redemption when all believers are gathered in. It does not take place on earth as a "preparation" for the Lord's coming]. Continuing the CBN Report... "Stewart Greaves, a 30-year-old, said, "I really feel like the Lord is calling young people to fall madly in love with Him. I've always felt that the difference between religion and relationship is intimacy with Jesus..." Here in Kansas City, there has already been a tremendous focus on the bridal love of Jesus... where for three and a half years, a team of prophetic singers, intercessors and others have held 24-hour-a-day praise and worship focusing on Jesus as the bridegroom. [-END of NEWS REPORT]. FROM a BOOK that is Required Reading at the School of this Kansas City prayer center: "He [God] has given Himself to both the exhilarations and the woundings of a lovesick heart. When He gazes upon me, He sees through the eyes of love and desire. He comes before me and says, 'I am a Man in love. I am a God that burns with desire, and I have set My affections on you. I am an all-consuming fire of love, and you are the inheritance that My Father has promised me. Will you receive My love?'" (Pg 57).

"O Gaze Eternal, How penetrating are Your Fires Rushing through my darkest places With the burning streams of Desire Leaving me naked, purged and bare ... Yet embraced... You take hold of my weakest places And kiss them with Your mercy Lifting up my low grounds With your mighty love so holy..." (Pg 52). "She lifted her arms wide to the Lord and said with all of her strength and her love, 'Enjoy me. Right here, right now, in my absolute weakness, enjoy me.'" (Pg 84). [NOTE: The above book goes on and on in a similar vein for 200 pages. We remind you again that this is an officially recommended publication at this Kansas City prayer center, with a Foreword by the LEADER of the movement himself. It is "Required Reading" for the young people at their ministry School. When they talk about a Bridal "Paradigm" - what do they mean? Well, a 'paradigm' is a new mindset or "world-view". These people are now viewing Jesus and Christianity through an entirely new set of lenses, so to speak - ie. Through this 'BRIDAL' Paradigm. -For many, that is now their dominant understanding of Jesus Christ.]

TRUE "INTIMACY" WITH GOD -by Andrew Strom. With all this talk about the error of the "Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching, I don't want to give the impression that I am against having a deep relationship with God. The fact is - my whole ministry is devoted to bringing people into a closer and closer walk with Him - a walk of truly deep communion. But there is one very important difference. -And it is all to do with the 'CHARACTER' of God, and how we approach Him. Since I was 17 years old - when I first went through a true "Revival" experience in my life - I have found myself in deep communion with God in prayer. Many times I have found myself (as it were) in the very 'throne room' presence of God, where all I could do was behold His glory and majesty in awe - often with tears streaming down my face. "HOLY HOLY HOLY". Sometimes I have been unable to speak or utter any word for hours at a time - because what words are sufficient for such things? -This is the God that I came to deeply love. -A 'HOLY' God. And I believe that 'knowing' God deeply in this way is for every believer. In fact, this is what I spoke about at our recent 'Gathering'. -'Personal Revival' and coming into a state of deep communion with Him. I am totally committed to the fact that this is God's will for every Christian. -Nothing 'unusual'.

But there are "foundations" that must be laid to come into this. And one of the most important of these foundations is a right understanding of God as a 'HOLY' God. -I mean deeply and utterly "Holy". -Holy beyond words and almost beyond comprehension. The more we get a grasp of God's HOLINESS, the more we ourselves desire holiness, and the closer and closer to Him we become. I have seen this and I know it is true. We all know the Scripture- "The FEAR of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom." But what a lot of us don't realize is that it is through this reverential 'Fear' of the Lord that we ultimately come into a deep 'LOVE' relationship with Him. It is utterly crucial that we embrace His judgments and holiness - as well as His mercy and grace. And as this foundation of God's glory and holiness and majesty is laid in our hearts, our whole approach to Him changes. We start to see Him as He really is - in all His GLORY - and we start to LOVE Him more and more. And as His holiness works its way more and more into our lives, we come closer and closer to Him - not in any "romantic" or 'sensual' way, but in a 'HOLY' way. -This is a major secret of the 'Revived' life: Apprehending the 'HOLY' character and nature of God. -That is where it starts. Which is why I have such a problem with the "Jesus as Lover" teaching. -Because it brings God down to "our level" - a sentimental 'romantic' level rather than a 'throneroom' one. It is an awful distortion. I believe it actually ruins a lot of people's relationship with God - rather than helping it. In many ways it is a "false Jesus" that is being preached and the approach is completely wrong. I know from Scripture and all Revival history that it is the God of GLORY and HOLINESS - the "throne room" God - that we must get to know if we are to come into the deepest heart communion and intimacy with Him. The 'Fear' of the Lord really is the beginning of wisdom. Through the free gift of the cleansing blood of Jesus - a FREE GIFT - we can truly and deeply become the 'FRIEND' of the King of Kings. -Now, how precious is that?? How many billions of dollars could you pay for that?? -We can actually become the 'FRIEND' of the God of all glory - Creator of the Universe. This is the God that we can come to deeply know and love. And the key is His 'HOLINESS'. TO SUM IT ALL UP: I am convinced that the "Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching is more than just an overemphasis. It is serious error, which is producing bad fruit all over the world. But more than that, I regard it as an utterly "anti-Revival" doctrine. If you are a seeker of true Revival, then I cannot imagine a worse way to be sidetracked than this. It promises a new kind of "intimacy" with Jesus, yet delivers only cheap 'romance'. And it fights against true 'holiness' preaching (ie. Revival preaching) by bringing God down to a more earthy and soulish and sentimental level. You cannot ever conceive of it preaching

"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." At the end of the day, I believe it simply preaches a 'FALSE JESUS'. Of course, our culture today is saturated with sex and romance, so this "Romantic Lover Jesus" doctrine plays right along with that. But are we supposed to adapt our whole understanding of God to the sick culture of the day, or are we supposed to represent the TRUE JESUS as He really is - and change the world? Clearly the latter, of course. To change our gospel to make Jesus a "wooing" romantic lover, chasing his beloved and playing "hide & seek" with her, is obviously 'off' in a major way. But you can see why many of our youth are falling for it. Of course, there is another distorted teaching related to this, which is also coming out of that same group in Kansas City. It is the over-emphasis on how much God aches and desires and takes "pleasure" in us - even in our "weakness" and 'brokenness' and sinfulness, etc. Again, when this is distorted and over-emphasized to such an extreme, it becomes an "anti-Revival" doctrine of the worst kind. I have been studying Revival now for over 20 years, and I would say that this kind of teaching is just about the worst barrier to true Revival in existence. Instead of exalting God, it portrays Him as excessively 'emotional', as He woos and enjoys us with His 'inflamed' heart - even in our 'weakness' (ie. sin). In other words, the seriousness of sin is down-played and "we" become the center instead of God. Again, this is in direct opposition to all true Revival preaching, and it simply amazes me that any "Revival-seeking" group would come out with it. Of course, as we have intimated before, this "Bridal" teaching seems to distort or ruin almost everything it touches. 'FASTING' is another example. Here is what one person wrote about their encounter with 'Bridegroom' fasting: "I have had experience with some ministry that included what they call a "bridegroom fast" where they mourn in "lovesickness" for the purpose of experiencing more of divine Love. Seems to be really over-emphasizing emotional experiences." - Yes - exactly! So is such 'Bridegroom' fasting actually pleasing to God? Does He even notice it at all? And what about their 'Bridegroom' PRAYING? Or their 'Bridegroom' MUSIC? (-Of which there seems to be such an abundance!) -Does any of it actually achieve what it is supposed to achieve? Or is it all based on a completely false perception of God? These are the questions that need to be seriously considered by anyone who is thinking of getting involved in this movement.

Back to the Trojan Horse

David Eells Here is a portion of Sovereign God for Us and Through Us in which I was speaking of this Trojan Horse Revival that was brought into the Church by ignorant apostate leadership.

Some of these serpent false ministries are as Pharaohs wise men and sorcerers who counterfeited the signs and wonders given to Moses (Ex.7:11,22; 8:7). It is interesting to note that though they could counterfeit some of the judgments (turning their staff into a serpent, turning waters into blood, and multiplying the plague of frogs), they could not remove them. Moses removed them, meaning God permitted them to magnify the curse, but not to deliver from it. It is still true today. I have a friend who was mixed up in a ministry (Toronto/Brownsville) that was seeing many signs and wonders. As I watched, I noticed that these supernatural occurrences were not the gifts of provision as in the book of Acts or in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. These signs and wonders seemed to be placebos to pacify a desire for the supernatural. They were flesh-pleasing signs that brought no practical, lasting deliverance from the curse. I perceived deceiving spirits involved and even saw some through the gift of discerning of spirits. When some tried to constrain them to stick to the Word, they would merely pass it off saying that God was doing a new thing. Even though there may be new things to our own experience, Solomon said, There is no new thing under the sun. We should find precedent in the Word for our signs and wonders. Paul warned of lying signs and wonders that come through Satan and his minions but are sent by God to deceive those who do not love truth (2 Thes.2:9-12). In concern for my friend whom I knew was gifted with dreams and visions, I prayed that the Lord would give her some to warn her of what was going on. The next time I saw her she related to me that she saw a vision in her church assembly. The ceiling disappeared, and she saw a great red dragon (the old serpent) stretched over the whole building. God was obviously saying that Satan was exercising dominion through deception there. Then she saw another vision: a Trojan horse was being wheeled through the back door. A voice told her, Christians brought that in here. This symbolized a false gift in which the enemy was hidden in order to conquer them. If the demons cannot keep you out of Christianity entirely, they have another strategy. There are religious spirits that specialize in keeping people in bondage to false, so-called Christian religions that do not teach the Word that sets free. There are many serpent spirits at work in the church today deceiving many with doctrines of demons, as Paul shared in 1 Timothy 4:1-3. Serpent spirits are manifest as false directions, doctrines, prophecies, and leadership to name a few. (2 Cor.11:13) For such men are false apostles (Greek: one sent forth), deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into apostles of Christ. (14) And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel (Greek: messenger) of light (truth). (15) It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works. The word angel in Greek is angelos, and is sometimes translated messenger when describing ministers who are sent by God or other ministers (Lk.7:24,27; 9:52). It is obvious that there are men who have infiltrated the ranks of ministers who are sent by Satan through their own ego and religious organizations. Both Jesus and Paul taught that these ministers were in the majority (Jn.10:8; 2 Cor.2:17).

These serpent spirits can also be mind-corrupting such as lust, greed, anger, bitterness, lying, homosexuality, alcoholism, idolatry, and uncleanness. I asked the Lord to show me about this false revival so I could show others. He sent me to a church not far from Brownsville that I had also ministered in several times. One of the Brownsville ministers was bringing the revival there. There was a lot of fleshly showy stuff going on, which is normal for that revival. He was going around slapping his bible on peoples chest saying, The Word of God in your heart. The Word of God in your heart. Of course it didnt work. It was a placebo. Nothing can replace obeying what you read in the Word. After the show there was an altar call. The Lord told me to go down and get into the line to be prayed for. I questioned Him because of the religious spirits I saw in the minister. After He confirmed His direction I started for the altar. I felt to pray on the way down and forbid any religious spirit to touch me in Jesus' name. I got in line and about 2/3 of the way down the line and the minister was working his way toward me, praying for people who had various manifestations: jerking, twitching and falling out. He stopped in front of me and put his hands out to put them on my chest to pray for me and instead of touching me his whole body pushed back and his eyes got big. He put out his hands again and his whole body pushed back again and his eyes got bigger. The third time this happened he fell on the ground and prayed for no one else in the line. I had my clear answer: religious spirits. Ever wonder why Christians from the Toronto/Brownsville Revival seem so very happy and care free? It is because they have cast off the crucified life of submission to the Word. A revelation was given to an early Church Father named Hermas in the early second century. In a vision the Lord appeared to him as a Shepherd revealing many things about true and false Christian life, which he was to send to the churches. Read what was revealed about these unrestrained, Biblically irresponsible people. These who only want to sing, praise, listen to their music chants and impart their deceptive, false fire anointing to the unsuspecting who almost immediately forsake the Word. Don't let them lay their hands on you. They are carriers of a demonic disease. If they have laid hands on you renounce it and get deliverance quickly. The Shepherd of Hermas (Book III, Similitude 6) CHAPTER l. Sitting in my house, and glorifying the Lord for all that I had seen, and reflecting on the commandments, that they are excellent, and powerful, and glorious, and able to save a man's soul, I said within myself, "I shall be blessed if I walk in these commandments, and every one who walks in them will be blessed." While I was saying these words to myself, I suddenly see him sitting beside me, and hear him thus speak: "Why are you in doubt about the commandments which I gave you? They are excellent: have no doubt about them at all, but put on faith in the Lord, and you will walk in them, for I will

strengthen you in them. These commandments are beneficial to those who intend to repent: for if they do not walk in them, their repentance is in vain You, therefore, who repent cast away the wickedness of this world which wears you out; and by putting on all the virtues of a holy life, you will be able to keep these commandments, and will no longer add to the number of your sins. Walk, therefore, in these commandments of mine, and you will live unto God. All these things have been spoken to you by me." And after he had uttered these words, he said to me, "Let us go into the fields, and I will show you the shepherds of the flocks." "Let us go, sir," I replied. And we came to a certain plain, and he showed me a young man, a shepherd, clothed in a suit of garments of a yellow color: and he was herding very many sheep, and these sheep were feeding luxuriously (Note: The Lord later explained that luxury was giving into sin and fleshly pleasures.), as it were, and riotously, and merrily skipping hither and thither. The shepherd himself was merry, because of his flock; and the appearance of the shepherd was joyous, and he was running about amongst his flock. And other sheep I saw rioting and luxuriating in one place, but not, however, leaping about. CHAPTER II. And he said to me, "Do you see this shepherd?" "I see him, sir," I said. "This," he answered, "is the angel of luxury and deceit: he wears out the souls of the servants of God, and perverts them from the truth, deceiving them with wicked desires, through which they will perish; for they forget the commandments of the living God, and walk in deceits and empty luxuries; and they are ruined by the angel, some being brought to death, others to corruption:" I said to him, "Sir, I do not know the meaning of these words, 'to death, and to corruption.'" "Listen," he said. "The sheep which you saw merry and leaping about, are those which have tom themselves away from God for ever, and have delivered themselves over to luxuries and deceits of this world. Among them there is no return to life through repentance, because they have added to their other sins, and blasphemed the name of the Lord. Such men therefore, are appointed unto death. And the sheep which you saw not leaping, but feeding in one place, are they who have delivered themselves over to luxury and deceit, but have committed no blasphemy against the Lord. These have been perverted from the truth: among them there is the hope of repentance, by which it is possible to live. Corruption, then, has a hope of a kind of renewal, but death has everlasting ruin." Again I went forward a little way, and he showed me a tall shepherd, somewhat savage in his appearance, clothed in a white goatskin, and having a wallet on his shoulders, and a very hard staff with branches, and a large whip. And he had a very sour look, so that I was afraid of him, so forbidding was his aspect. This shepherd, accordingly, was receiving the sheep from the young shepherd, those, viz., that were rioting and luxuriating, but not leaping; and he cast them into a precipitous place, full of this ties and thorns, so that it was impossible to extricate the sheep from the thorns and thistles; but they were completely entangled amongst them. These, accordingly, thus entangled, pastured amongst the thorns and thistles, and were exceedingly miserable, being beaten by him; and he drove them hither and thither, and gave them no rest; and, altogether, these sheep were in a wretched plight.

CHAPTER III. Seeing them, therefore, so beaten and so badly used, I was grieved for them, because they were so tormented, and had no rest at all. And I said to the Shepherd who talked with me, "Sir, who is this shepherd, who is so pitiless and severe, and so completely devoid of compassion for these sheep?" "This," he replied, "is the angel of punishment; and he belongs to the just angels, and is appointed to punish. He accordingly takes those who wander away from God, and who have walked in the desires and deceits of this world, and chastises them as they deserve with terrible and diverse punishments." "I would know, sir," I said, "Of what nature are these diverse tortures and punishments?" "Hear," he said, "the various tortures and punishments. The tortures are such as occur during life. For some are punished with losses, others with want, others with sicknesses of various kinds, and others with all kinds of disorder and confusion; others are insulted by unworthy persons, and exposed to suffering in many other ways: for many, becoming unstable in their plans, try many things, and none of them at all succeed, and they say they are not prosperous in their undertakings; and it does not occur to their minds that they have done evil deeds, but they blame the Lord. When, therefore, they have been afflicted with all kinds of affliction, then are they delivered unto me for good training, and they are made strong in the faith of the Lord; and for the rest of the days of their life they are subject to the Lord with pure hearts, and are successful in all their undertakings, obtaining from the Lord everything they ask; and then they glorify the Lord, that they were delivered to me, and no longer suffer any evil." CHAPTER IV. I said to him, "Sir, explain this also to me." "What is it you ask?" he said. "Whether, sir," I continued, "they who indulge in luxury, and who are deceived, are tortured for the same period of time that they have indulged in luxury and deceit?" He said to me, "They are tortured in the same manner." ["They are tormented much less, sir," I replied;] "for those who are so luxurious and who forget God ought to be tortured seven-fold." He said to me "You are foolish, and do not understand the power of torment." "Why, sir," I said, "if I had understood it, I would not have asked you to show me." "Hear," he said, "the power of both. The time of luxury and deceit is one hour; but the hour of torment is equivalent to thirty days. If, accordingly, a man indulge in luxury for one day, and be deceived and be tortured for one day, the day of his torture is equivalent to a whole year. For all the days of luxury, therefore, there are as many years of torture to be undergone. You see, then," he continued, "that the time of luxury and deceit is very short, but that of punishment and torture long." CHAPTER V. "Still," I said, "I do not quite understand about the time of deceit, and luxury, and torture; explain it to me more clearly." He answered, and said to me, "Your folly is persistent; and you do not wish to purify your heart, and serve God. Have a care," he added, "lest

the time be fulfilled, and you be found foolish. Hear now," he added, "as you desire, that you may understand these things. He who indulges in luxury, and is deceived for one day, and who does what he wishes, is clothed with much foolishness, and does not understand the act which he does until the morrow; for he forgets what he did the day before. For luxury and deceit have no memories, on account of the folly with which they are clothed; but when punishment and torture cleave to a man for one day, he is punished and tortured for a year; for punishment and torture have powerful memories. While tortured and punished, therefore, for a whole year, he remembers at last a his luxury and deceit, and knows that an their account he suffers evil. Every man, therefore, who is luxurious and deceived is thus tormented, because, although having life, they have given themselves over to death." "What kinds of luxury, sir," I asked, "are hurtful?" "Every act of a man which he performs with pleasure," he replied, "is an act of luxury; for the sharp-tempered man, when gratifying his tendency, indulges in luxury; and the adulterer, and the drunkard, and the back-biter, and the liar, and the covetous man, and the thief, and he who does things like these, gratifies his peculiar propensity, and in so doing indulges in luxury. All these acts of luxury are hurtful to the servants of God. On account of these deceits, therefore, do they suffer, who are punished and tortured. And there are also acts of luxury which save men; for many who do good indulge in luxury, being carried away by their own pleasure: this luxury, however, is beneficial to the servants of God, and gains life for such a man; but the injurious acts of luxury before enumerated bring tortures and punishment upon them; and if they continue in them and do not repent, they bring death upon themselves."

Questions Concerning the Toronto/Brownsville Experience

I live two miles from Brownsville and have warred with the deceiving spirits of that revival for almost 10 years. If you go to a revival and instead of calling upon the name of the Lord, they are chanting the mantra Fire, Fire, Fire; or More, More, More; or More power or More fire. Run, they are calling forth the Toronto/Brownsville spirits to deceive you with lying signs and wonders. God gives Biblical signs and wonders to confirm the people who speak His true Word. Lying signs and wonders confirm a lie and a people who come to spread a lie. {2 Thes. 2:8} And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9} [even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. If you are prayed over or more correctly preyed upon by these people renounce it quickly. Notice that unless you are protected because of your love for the Word and

righteous living several things will happen. You will be deceived by Satan as a working of error sent by God. I have seen several things consistently in the infected people. They begin to hear the voice and follow the leading of God-impersonating spirits. {Dt.13:1} If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, {2} and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; {3} thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth you, to know whether ye love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. {4} Ye shall walk after Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. They become so convinced this is the voice of God they come to respect their false word rather than the true Word. Because they now do not have this standard there is no conviction and restraint for their life and they are given over to their past lusts or new lusts. The spirits in them will rail with lies at those who recognize them as false spirits and love the Word. As this infection progresses these people not only come to respect these unbiblical signs but are able to pass on the spirits who bring the strong delusion and perform them. It was the Brownsville Assembly of God church in Pensacola, Florida, that opened the door for this Trojan Horse and then many other churches of this denomination jumped in. The reason they were chosen to be the prime leaders of this is obvious. They do not believe that Christians can have demons. Since they believed that these could not be demons manifesting in and through their brethren, then it must be God. Once again departure from the Word opened them up to this deception. Jesus commanded His disciples not to go to any Gentiles but only to Israel to cast out demons (Mt.10:5-8). This is because they had the covenant right to deliverance and the lost did not. Jesus also told the Syrophoenician woman who wanted deliverance for her daughter that it is not meet to take the childrens bread and cast it to the dogs (Mk.7:26, 27). This means that only the children of God can have deliverance from their demons. Because this woman expressed faith in Jesus, and faith is accounted as righteousness in the New Covenant that He was making, she received her request. The Assemblies being a rather traditional Pentecostal church was then able to influence many other people of like mind. This was because none of them had become familiar with Gods Word. I have been asked, Can one have a partial infection? Yes, for instance: I have seen some receive the spirits that cause them to disrespect the Word but they still are not convinced of the lying signs and wonders. The reason for this is simple. This has been revealed as a Trojan Horse attack on the people of God. When the people of Troy brought what they thought was a gift of their God inside their city, a relatively small group of the enemy was hidden inside. In the darkness that came, these crept out and opened the gates to a larger army waiting outside. Many Christians are bringing the false gift inside and if they continue in the darkness will sooner or later be infested with more life destroying demons.

I have been asked, Can one be prayed over by these people and not be infected at all? Yes, some of the Christians examining this phenomenon from inside the infected Churches or elsewhere are ignorantly but honestly seeking only God and sometimes pray the famous prayer, Lord if this is not of you I dont want it. These usually escape infection in their ignorance. {Pr.26:2} As the sparrow in her wandering, as the swallow in her flying, So the curse that is causeless alighteth not. Remember Balaam was bribed to curse the people of God but found he could not. {Num.23:8} How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? And how shall I defy, whom Jehovah hath not defied? {9} For from the top of the rocks I see him, And from the hills I behold him: lo, it is a people that dwelleth alone, And shall not be reckoned among the nations. Notice that those who are separate from the world, which is the meaning of sanctification, are blessed and cannot be cursed as Balaam went on to say. {20} Behold, I have received [commandment] to bless: And he hath blessed, and I cannot reverse it. On the other hand as these same ignorant people begin to be warned of God by others or through His Word and they ignore this, they become guilty of willful sin and the curse will overtake them. We cannot bless those God has cursed. If you cast these demons out and the victims do not repent, they will come back worse. Jesus said that when the demon is cast out of an unrepentant person, meaning those who do not respect His Word, he would return and open the gate for seven worse than himself (Mt.12:38-45). Frustrated because of seeing this in my experience with these people I cried to the Father, Lord what can I do for the Toronto/Brownsville infected people? He gave me an immediate answer. {Jer.7:27} And thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. {28} And thou shalt say unto them, This is the nation that hath not hearkened to the voice of Jehovah their God, nor received instruction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth. {29} Cut off thy hair (Hebrew: crown), [O Jerusalem], and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the bare heights; for Jehovah hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath. {30} For the children of Judah (Spirit filled people) have done that which is evil in my sight, saith Jehovah: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to defile it. {31} And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into my mind. Notice that those who do not hear the true voice of God, will not hear the Word of God through you, but will lose their crown, entering the wrath. I have been asked, What is the difference between the true gifts of God and the false? The true gifts of 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14 destroy the works of the Satan and cast him out. False gifts never cast him out but bring him in. {Mk.3:23} And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. {26} And if Satan hath risen up against himself, and is divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. The true gifts are practical in that they bring Gods salvation from the

curse. The false gifts are for fleshly indulgence and entertainment and slyly destroy the works of God. From Gods point of view they come to separate the wheat from the tares especially in the time of the harvest as that parable in Matthew 13 shows. I have been asked, If I have been affected by this false revival, what can I do for deliverance? First repent, meaning, change your mind. Do not deny one Word of God because of your idols. Believing flesh-appeasing doctrines to appease your own selfish ambitions will give God cause to permit these demons to deceive you. {Eze.14:4} Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Every man of the house of Israel that taketh his idols into his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I Jehovah will answer him therein according to the multitude of his idols; {5} that I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols. God will send deception to those who have idols of personal ambition. The next step in deliverance is to believe the Gospel that Father delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love {Col.1:13}. Take the authority you received from this and renounce and rebuke these deceiving spirits from you. Renounce the false signs that have no relationship to what you see in Scriptures. If you feel you need help call on true elders who are free of this deception to stand with you. Love from your servant, David

E-mail From a Prophetess Who Was Involved in Brownsville

I know that this is a very unsettling time. This teaching on Brownsville/Toronto has really stirred up a hornet's nest of spirits. As I told you a few days ago, the Lord had warned me about certain relationships. So I guess this shouldn't come as a surprise, but still it is a shock. To be honest, I am a peacemaker by nature and want everyone to get along. I wondered if things really had to be as "harsh" as they turned out, so this morning I took it EARNESTLY to the Lord. I cried out to Him to show me the TRUTH in all of this, and why were things getting so difficult. I said, "Lord, I have many friends who were/are involved with Brownsville. They love you. Aren't we being a little 'harsh'?. Can't we just sort of 'forgive' and move on?" IMMEDIATELY, the Lord said, "Jeremiah 16." So I turned there........it is ABSOLUTELY what I needed to hear. The reason things seem "harsh" is because God is dealing harshly with this spirit!!! Please read Jeremiah 16, the whole chapter. It says that we

are not to get married in this place. That tells me NO COVENANT RELATIONSHIPS where this spirit is. So after I read that chapter and understood it, I said, "But Lord, what about me? I have associated with some of these people carrying this spirit. Are you cutting me off?" He lifted my eye up the page a bit to chapter 15 verses 19-21. Some of it says, "If you return, then I will restore you--Before Me you will stand; and if you extract the precious from the worthless, you will become My spokesman. They for their part may turn to you, but as for you, you must not turn to them." So many of us are under God's mercy right now, extracting the precious from the worthless. Then I asked the Lord how you (David) had the understanding to deal so sharply with this spirit, as I would have been more "forgive and forget" type thing. And this is what the Lord said to me... "David has been a warrior against this spirit for a long time. He has been in battle against it many times and therefore, recognizes it more quickly than most. He also understands its tactics and has seen firsthand how devastating this spirit can be to My people." (Look at what the Lord says is coming to them in chapter 16:4.) David, I hope this will be an encouragement to you. I know it is hard. I, myself, HATE it. But, I believe the Word....so be it!!

E-mail from a Brother Asking for a Sign

I asked the Lord about going to a meeting where gold dust was one of the signs along with weight loss as some of the signs manifested in these meetings. Well I went to the Lord and asked Him to show me if it was okay to go. I then opened the Bible and my finger fell upon: {2 Tim.4:3} For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; {4} and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables. Wow! What a revelation. Boy do we need the gift of discernment today. Is the Word being preached and Jesus being lifted up? Watch out for these fleshly uplifting preachers. Don't let anyone deceive you. We are in the last days.

E-mail From Eric of Recent Brownsville Type Revival

In regards to these Brownsville spirits, I can attest to the fact that they are false and harmful. False because all their manifestations fail to agree with the word of God. Harmful because they distract from any true deliverance or worship of God.

Here is my experience and encounter with the Brownsville spirits. I witnessed people who were supposedly being anointed with the Holy Ghost suddenly fall down as if knocked out by a prize fighter. They called it "slain in the spirit." I saw others in fits of maniacal laughter, while others were swaying or shaking, some as if they were drunk and others as if they had bodies like Jell-O. There were strange chantings about fire and sexual overtones to their speech. There were two charismatic preachers who were imparting these sensual spirits and the women seemed to be attracted to them or rather the flirtatious spirits within them. When they "groaned," it sounded like a man in the act of sex and their eyes were glassy and red like someone high on marijuana. There were group impartations that caused everyone to fall down together and there was even a couple of disturbing sexual poses. Nobody was prophesying in an edifying way or teaching, there was no group prayer for healing or deliverance because most of the people there were interested in coming back for more impartations like a drug addict comes back for more. Even when an individual would try to recover they would impart more of these spirits and put them back out. Please brethren, be informed that these spirits serve the pleasures of the flesh and skillfully avoid any true edification of the spirit. They speak of the power of God but they disobey his word. They speak in tongues but there is no way to interpret what they say because no one seems to care what they are saying. They misquote scripture and add to the Word their own suppositions because they need to justify these works of the adversary. It is only about feeling good in the flesh. Our Lord, with a true word, teaches us to sow to the spirit and not to the flesh. Brethren, be warned. All of us have a responsibility to God to not only know the Word, but to obey the Word. If we do not learn and obey the Word then we leave a door open for strong delusion. For those who have ears to hear, let them hear. For those who have eyes to see, let them see. Obey the Word and these unclean spirits will flee from you. Be cautious as to who lays hands on you or prays over you, if you do not know their background or anything about them. Keep studying the word in order to be approved.

A False Healing Revival in Florida?

Andrew Strom 4/23/08 Many of you will have already heard about the "Healing Revival" that has purportedly broken out in Lakeland, Florida. Today Charisma Magazine put out a piece on it entitled 'A Holy Ghost Outbreak in Florida' - "...Charismatics are flocking to the sleepy town of Lakeland, Fla. to attend evangelist Todd Bentleys unconventional revival services." Is Charisma preparing to hype this one to the skies like they did with Toronto and Rodney Howard- Browne? It seems perhaps they are. But why am I opposed to this 'Healing Revival' so soon after it has been announced? -It is because I already know Todd Bentley's ministry all too well, and this whole thing centers around him.

Todd Bentley actually has deep roots in the Prophetic movement, and he is one of the very few ministers that I have ever felt I had to publicly warn people about by name. -His ministry is that bad. False "angel" encounters of the weirdest kind, gold dust, guided visualizations of the "Third Heaven" that are straight out of the New Age, etc. And yet there is a "power" with it that makes it all the more dangerous. Here is how Charisma describes his Florida meetings- "His methods are far from polished. When he prayed for people in Lakeland, he usually began by laying his hand on their heads and then yelling, Bam! Often the people fell backward to the floor. After one elderly woman fell, Bentley told the audience: She doesnt know why she fell down. The woman then laughed and said to him in the microphone: Because you pushed me! He prayed for her three more times that night, and she said she could hear better... During the past three weeks people have testified of being healed from heart conditions, skin rashes and back problems, and many said scars disappeared... Many charismatics are wondering if the protracted meetings will become a phenomenon similar to what happened in Rodney Howard-Brownes meetings in Lakeland in 1993, at the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Canada in 1994 and at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola in 1995..." [END QUOTE] Sadly, the Charismatic movement is in such a sick state today that it would not surprise me at all if this happens. (-I say this as a strong Spirit-filled, tongues-speaking believer myself. I am by no means opposed to genuine miracles). Have we completely forgotten the warnings of "Lying signs and wonders" in the Last Days? Below is a testimony by Lynn Clark who is a Moderator at our website 'RevivalSchool.com'. This is what she wrote about her involvement with Todd Bentley's ministry: "I decided to check out Patricia King and Todd Bentley and, ignorant of their 'third heaven' guided visualizations, attended a five day conference of Patricia King and then two of Todd Bentley's conferences and began to imagine third heaven visitations - guided visualization - still not realizing that these are actually spirits of darkness - the New Age calls them spirit guides demons is what they are. And so I bought Todd Bentley's teaching on third heaven visitations and brought it home to listen to. "I was in my living room laying on the floor listening to the teaching on how to visualize the third heaven and what to say and was getting caught up into his teaching and all of a sudden I began to shake uncontrollably and jerk and groan, and no sooner had this taken place I became frozen stiff - I could not move any part of my body and I knew this was a demon trying to take hold of me, and so with all the effort I could muster I cried out, "God save me - Jesus help me" - and as soon as I cried out to the Lord my body went limp. God spared me that night and I will be forever grateful. "I spent much of the night in tears asking God to forgive me - and renouncing all the hands layed on me and all the awful deception I had opened myself up to..." [END QUOTE] ANDREW AGAIN: I myself have heard the tapes of Todd Bentley's "Third Heaven Visualization" teachings, and I want to tell you - they are straight out of the New Age handbook. -Terrible stuff. And yet so widely accepted by thousands of Christians today.

Do these kinds of practices (above) produce a genuine 'Healing Revival'? -These are the kinds of questions that we need to be asking Charisma Magazine. I leave it for you to decide. Please also listen to the following audios: Wolves in the Church (Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) Escape from Christendom (Part 1, 2, 3) Avoiding the Deception that Separates (Part 1, 2, 3)

Toronto/Brownsville Spin-off "Revivals"

Deceptive Spin-Off Revival Brandon Davis - 5/27/08 (David's notes in red) I want to praise God for your ministry and the discernment that has been given through the recent discussions of the false revivals. I am a part of a spirit-filled church here in Longview, Texas, and although it is very Word-based, and I love the people there, my eyes have been opened to see some areas where deception from the false prophetic movement has tried to creep into our church. I see where I was deceived on some things. I now have my guard up to be aware of these deceptive influences and am praying that God will give me discernment and help me to warn those who are being deceived by this thing. Please pray that God gives me the gift of discernment to help me know beyond a doubt when deceptive spirits are at work, and warn those who are being deceived by this. I had a dream which disturbed me back at the end of May 2008. This was just before the Lakeland revival broke out; I had never heard of Lakeland or Todd Bentley or what was going on there until last week, May 16. Now I believe perhaps it had to do with deceptive revival. In the first part of the dream, I was standing in front of a mirror and there was a guy standing beside me on the left in the reflection (but only in the reflection). This guy had a grinning, mischievous expression on his face. (After I woke up I knew he was a demon.) (A demon which is not seen in the natural but is there in spirit to deceive is clearly what is happening in the false revival movement.) He said, "Let me show you this cool trick everybody's doing it," and then he laid hands on me, and tricked me into swallowing my tongue. I did NOT find this amusing; in

fact; I was choking. But there were others around me who had swallowed their tongues too, and they were laughing a lot and seemed to think it was great. Finally, after gasping for air, I threw up my tongue, and a bunch of nasty stuff came out too (delivered of demons), but then my tongue was really long and stretched out and wagging around like a dog; it hindered my speech. (The laying on of hands is how this deception is passed on in the false revivals like Lakeland. The laughing uncontrollably is the Kundalini Yoga spirit from Hinduism. Swallowing the tongue only to have it born again from beneath is a symbol of these Christians losing their most creative and powerful force for God, to the devil. A wagging tongue like an unclean dog clearly identifies this demonic movement.) I was kind of staggering around as I tried to stuff it back into my mouth and regain my normal self-control. (Praise God, I've never been "drunk in the spirit" before, but I've heard some of my friends use that phrase, and this reminds me a little of that.) (The laying on of hands bringing the lack of self control and drunkenness in the spirit are also from the Kundalini spirits of Yoga. There is nothing but negative about drunkenness of any kind, spiritual or physical, in the Word. This revival magnifies a loss of self-control, which the Word says is a fruit of the Spirit.) Todd has said that he is impressed to lay hands on everyone who comes to the Lakeland revival. These demons want to infect all they can, whether in the revival or outside in your meetings. Be careful who lays hands on you. After I regained my normal state, I was outside and I saw a MASSIVE tornado churning across the land. It was dark and very wide. (The Toronto/Brownsville/Kansas City false revival movement.) I was wishing I had my camera to take pictures of it (in real life, I do photography as a side job, and I've always wanted to capture a tornado). Then a smaller tornado emerged out of the bigger one. Although this one was much smaller, it spun much faster, moved faster, and was more destructive. Then it became consumed with fire, and lightning bolts came out of it. There were a bunch of us standing outside, watching it. No one was running for cover as it came toward us. It entered the field right next to us, and the dream ended. (There is no doubt that the spin-off tornado is the Lakeland Revival. On our site we have been calling it a spin-off of the Toronto/Brownsville disease that has spread throughout the world.) Lying Signs & Wonders Revival? David Eells - 5/27/08 Most of the reports of healings are bogus, as they were with the Brownsville revival. Flesh-tickling feelings and the temporary releasing of the effects of spirits of infirmities are fake healings and will not last, as with the Brownsville revival. There were a lot of claims that the news people investigated and found that the effects were temporary and/or bogus to begin with. In fact, they found no real miracles at all. I live within a couple miles from there and the local papers had articles every day on the revival.

Lakeland revival is now claiming the same things and even resurrections but most are bogus. I have read of a couple of resurrections that they seem to be taking credit for but have nothing to do with the revival. And claims of several more that have not been substantiated. However, some real healings and resurrections may be happening this time. The deception is being permitted to increased with this "revival." Remember that we were warned that false prophets would sometimes bring real signs or wonders to test the people to see if they would obey the Word instead of follow the false Jesuses of these men. {Dt.13:1} If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, {2} and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods (another Jesus), which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; {3} thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth you, to know whether ye love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. {4} Ye shall walk after Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. {5} And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he hath spoken rebellion against Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which Jehovah thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee. God says that He confirms His Word with signs and wonders. However, when there is a false word that is confirmed with signs and wonders, this is called lying signs and wonders and is for the purpose of deceiving those who do not respect the Word. {2 Thes.2:8} And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9} [even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Those who do not respect the Word of truth will be deceived, if not with this revival, then with some false teachings or their own lusts. Loving truth inoculates a person from deception.

A False Healing Revival in Florida?

Andrew Strom 4/23/08 Many of you will have already heard about the "Healing Revival" that has purportedly broken out in Lakeland, Florida. Today Charisma Magazine put out a piece on it entitled 'A Holy Ghost

Outbreak in Florida' - "...Charismatics are flocking to the sleepy town of Lakeland, Fla. to attend evangelist Todd Bentleys unconventional revival services." Is Charisma preparing to hype this one to the skies like they did with Toronto and Rodney Howard- Browne? It seems perhaps they are. But why am I opposed to this 'Healing Revival' so soon after it has been announced? -It is because I already know Todd Bentley's ministry all too well, and this whole thing centers around him. Todd Bentley actually has deep roots in the Prophetic movement, and he is one of the very few ministers that I have ever felt I had to publicly warn people about by name. -His ministry is that bad. False "angel" encounters of the weirdest kind, gold dust, guided visualizations of the "Third Heaven" that are straight out of the New Age, etc. And yet there is a "power" with it that makes it all the more dangerous. Here is how Charisma describes his Florida meetings- "His methods are far from polished. When he prayed for people in Lakeland, he usually began by laying his hand on their heads and then yelling, Bam! Often the people fell backward to the floor. After one elderly woman fell, Bentley told the audience: She doesnt know why she fell down. The woman then laughed and said to him in the microphone: Because you pushed me! He prayed for her three more times that night, and she said she could hear better... During the past three weeks people have testified of being healed from heart conditions, skin rashes and back problems, and many said scars disappeared... Many charismatics are wondering if the protracted meetings will become a phenomenon similar to what happened in Rodney Howard-Brownes meetings in Lakeland in 1993, at the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Canada in 1994 and at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola in 1995..." [END QUOTE] Sadly, the Charismatic movement is in such a sick state today that it would not surprise me at all if this happens. (-I say this as a strong Spirit-filled, tongues-speaking believer myself. I am by no means opposed to genuine miracles). Have we completely forgotten the warnings of "Lying signs and wonders" in the Last Days? Below is a testimony by Lynn Clark who is a Moderator at our website 'RevivalSchool.com.' This is what she wrote about her involvement with Todd Bentley's ministry: "I decided to check out Patricia King and Todd Bentley and, ignorant of their 'third heaven' guided visualizations, attended a five day conference of Patricia King and then two of Todd Bentley's conferences and began to imagine third heaven visitations - guided visualization - still not realizing that these are actually spirits of darkness - the New Age calls them spirit guides demons is what they are. And so I bought Todd Bentley's teaching on third heaven visitations and brought it home to listen to. "I was in my living room laying on the floor listening to the teaching on how to visualize the third heaven and what to say and was getting caught up into his teaching and all of a sudden I began to shake uncontrollably and jerk and groan, and no sooner had this taken place I became frozen stiff - I could not move any part of my body and I knew this was a demon trying to take hold of me, and so with all the effort I could muster I cried out, "God save me - Jesus help me" - and as soon as I cried out to the Lord my body went limp. God spared

me that night and I will be forever grateful. "I spent much of the night in tears asking God to forgive me - and renouncing all the hands laid on me and all the awful deception I had opened myself up to..." [END QUOTE] ANDREW AGAIN: I myself have heard the tapes of Todd Bentley's "Third Heaven Visualization" teachings, and I want to tell you - they are straight out of the New Age handbook. -Terrible stuff. And yet so widely accepted by thousands of Christians today. Do these kinds of practices (above) produce a genuine 'Healing Revival'? -These are the kinds of questions that we need to be asking Charisma Magazine. I leave it for you to decide.

Testimony of a Former New-Ager

Paul Gowdy (unedited) The first time that I saw gold filling in teeth was back in the late 70s when I was a graduate student at a New Age center for healing through the occult arts. An old-time new age Christian evangelist named Brother Willard Fuller came for an intensive 5 days to teach the bible and introduce the gifts of the spirit which he said anyone can have if they just asked. He was invited because of the particular power he operated in. He did teach on the bible beginning in genesis and did teach about Jesus. I dont remember much of the teaching except for the miracles that this Jesus did. I was interested in this particular training since Jesus was my spirit guide and I wanted to know more about him. At the end of the 5 days there was a healing service where he laid hands on people and gold would manifest in their mouths. I didnt get gold but my teeth became a brilliant white (for about a week afterwards). I was amazed by this type of power although my teacher, Eva, who was a shaman / healer and trans-medium (channeled a spirit that would foretell and speak hidden wisdom) could do some pretty amazing things. I hadnt seen anything like this that so titillated my flesh. I wanted this power that was in his name- Jesus. As a result, I bought a bible and began to study it on my own to find out more about this Jesus that I could be exactly like.. and operate in the same power. At one point a crystal manifested before my eyes, floated then dropped to the ground at my feet. My teacher said that this was a gift from my spirit guide - Jesus and was to be kept on me always as a source of power. Through the amazing grace of God I met the real Jesus alone in my apt while studying scripture and He saved a poor wretch like me. After 7 years of studying to be a new age healer I became a Christian with the sincere desire to follow only Him. I burned all my amulets, books tapes etc renounced and repented. The mask came off of my spirit guide to reveal a monster demon. The first church that I decided to attend was a Word of Faith church that was appealing because the pastors wife was a prophetess and they were seeking after true miracles- signs and wonder. Now I could experience the power legitimately because I

was a Christian and it must be from god. During my 7 years at this church, I grew in the healing arts of Christianity and got drunk in the spirit a lot through the ministry of Joe Jordon. We grew in flakiness and twisting of scripture and many lives became shipwrecked. The pastors divorced and the wife started working for the psychic hotline and her sister now reads Tarot cards. Sooo after joining a vineyard church I was hesitant when our pastor insisted that we go to Toronto for the Blessing since I thought the whole laughing thing was off( because of Joe Jordon) but you get swept in this and think that how could so many people be deceived? I want what they are experiencing.. I dont want to miss out on a possible move of God.. I want to see real signs and wonders, etc, etc But the sin of self/idolatry and desire for power and to be like god (gen.3) is so strong that you are blinded. When I heard of the gold dust and fillings I had a distant check but thought well it must be God if it is coming through Christians to the church. I began to see such similarity to my training in the new age from inner healing , body healing, visualization, meditation, body sensations, disguised shamanistic rituals and beliefs, divination , etc. that I was convinced that Jesus in very soon coming back for all religions are converging into one. After getting out of the river we began to read the bible with new understanding The Holy Spirit really started to highlight scripture and teach us with a new understanding and in context. Jesus said to His disciples when they asked in Mathew 24:3-4 what will be the sign of Your coming. and of the end of the age? Jesus first reply to that question was take heed that no one deceives you That was His first response! Wow when you think about it that was a warning to the men who knew Him well . Jesus must have known that even those who know Him well could be deceived! I know well that Satan can produce signs and wonders and much of what is being produced now through the charismatic church is from Satan. This polluted river is doing a fine job preparing the minds and hearts for the coming of the anti-christ. He IS coming back soon! I know many people who are immersed (or should I say drowning in the pursuit of signs and wonders. It is almost like drug addiction. There is a growing need for something stronger with each experience. It does create a high. But as with drug addicts and alcoholics there is a denial. People really dont want to look at their own sin or the harm that it is causing but would rather get high instead though the experience of being at a conference where Jesus showed up with a sign and wonder. I just read about a conference called Growing in the Supernatural sponsored by Patricia King. There are 20 people advertized who will be speaking. I know that half of them operate ( in ignorance) in shamanistic practices and with spirits of divination and

sorcery. I guarantee that people who attend will have a sense of euphoria and a visitation but it will not be from Almighty God. It is a sad thing that Jesus Christ and Him crucified- the wonder of the cross and His resurrection is not enough! It takes faith to walk this narrow road. And many times it does not feel good and there is suffering. We become impatient and have heard for years the rhetoric from the false prophets about the coming revival and visitation where people will be healed and the dead raised. Slowly our eyes turned from Jesus and our future hope to I want something now which will confirm all that the false prophets have been saying. There is such a desire to experience something.. anything will do that is supernatural. That is why contemplative prayer which is based on eastern mysticism has become so popular in the church. May the Lord through His mercy and grace open the eyes of our friends understanding and lead them into the truth. Please use my testimony any way you see fit. Maybe it will be just the bait on the fishing pole that will draw someone out of the river. I pray for the people I know and those I dont who are caught up in deception.People are looking for a quick fix and solution to their everyday problems. Being obedient and following the Lord - abiding in scripture is not appealing. Hebrews 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. Throughout history our tendency is to idolatry. These leaders are idols who are worshipped and their teachings are the gospel ( of course backed up with the false signs and wonders) Paul warns in 1 Corinthians 10:14 to flee from idolatry and 10:21 you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons I know how angry and defensive people get regarding their golden calf. The ramifications of seeing are enormous. Repentance is not popular and is almost becoming obsolete. There is nothing we can say that will open their eyes but for the work of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God.

False Revival in Florida

Nichole Adams - 4/29/08 (unedited) This is my experience at a Todd Bentley conference in 2005. It's a bit jumbled and long, but here it is anyway!! I went to a Texas Ablaze conference in Austin, TX. It was put on by Stand Firm World Ministries, Fresh Fire Ministries, and Streams Ministries. Some of the speakers were Keith Miller (SFWM), Todd Bentley (FFM), and Barbie Breathitt (Streams Ministries). It was hosted at one of the local Austin churches (I forget the name of the church). It was three days long beginning on a Friday, in February.

One of my friends had recently become engaged, and his girlfriend was visiting San Antonio to go to this Todd Bentley conference. They had been to one before somewhere else in the USA. I had never heard of Todd Bentley or Fresh Fire Ministries before. She compared going to a Todd Bentley conference to having An ice cream sundae treat in the Spirit. Well, my friends and I were up for that, so we registered and paid the fee and booked a hotel for the weekend. I believe the registration fee was 35 dollars, but more if you paid at the door. It felt weird to have to pay to go to church like you would a concert or sports game. I attended the conference with several people from the singles group at the church I was going to (Vineyard Church of San Antonio.). Many other families from the Vineyard also attended, but us singles carpooled and shared hotel rooms because we were cheap, and some of us did not have much money to pay for our own hotel rooms, so it helped defer the cost. We were all excited about this conference and prayed that God would do great things while we were there. I went expecting a move of God. I hope he does the ring of fire!! one of my friends commented. Ring of fire? Apparently a thing where he makes a ring of fire in the air and you walk through it, and supposedly this is some anointing or blessing or something. You walk through the ring of fire, and he prays for you and you fall down. Its awesome, they said. That it was a rush to get the Spirit like that. The way they talked about it made me feel a little apprehensive about it. I hadnt read anything about a ring of fire in the bible. (He didnt do this signature ring of fire at the conference I went to after all.) The first night it was jam-packed with everyone trying to get in. Because we had paid our fee in advance, we went to the pre-registered table. They required us to get these purple wrist-bands that we had to wear for three days (we could not take them off, not even to shower, or we could not get back in.). I am lucky my wrist is very small and I could slip mine on and off because they did not put it tight enough. It would have been obnoxious to have to sleep/shower with that thing on. They did not want anyone who had not paid to get in. They had ushers (guards?) at the doors to the sanctuary to make sure you had your wristband. They would check your wrist after you went to use the bathroom too, before they let you back in. I guess they were afraid of people getting the Holy Spirit or getting healed without paying for it first? Around the registration tables were tables piled full of things you can buy from the ministries, or outrageous prices, too. 25 dollars for a CD, or 30 bucks for a book. They had sets to teach you how to have experiences like Todd Bentley has (going up to the third heaven, meeting angels, etc, etc.) From Todd Bentleys ministry you could also buy hankies and get Todd to pray over them, and transfer the anointing to them, so your sick relative or friend might be healed, or if they were healthy, just get an explosion of an anointing of the Holy Spirit. (based on people getting healed from Pauls hankies in Acts. I dont think Paul made people pay for hankies though). Streams Ministries had cards that excited everyone, because our church was involved with Streams Ministries, and was doing Dream Interpretation. They had laminated cards that you could buy for $10-25 that were cheat sheets on things like 1) What causes what illnesses, or 2) What numbers, colors, letters, and various animals mean in dreams. My friends bought the

illnesses card and the dream card, and I looked at them on the way home. The Illnesses card had things like Obesity is caused by low-self esteem. Low back pain is caused by familiar spirits. Etc. It was a chart with the illnesses on the left and the demons/spiritual conditions on the top , with Xs to show you what caused what. Some things were caused by multiple things. They also had other material for sale that of course, showed you how to cast out whatever demons you had so you could get well, or how to get better self esteem so you wouldnt be obese. The dreams card was your basic run of the mill dream interpretation stuff, like the color red means danger, purple means royalty, etc. One thing I noticed is they interrupted the service a lot to advertise products at the pulpit. They would talk for a minute about a book or CD, and then remind us that we could buy it in the foyer for a low, low price. I did not see how this is doing anything but turning a house of prayer into a house of merchandise. They did this between speakers. They encouraged people during the breaks to go out and shop at the tables. In the sanctuary, they had special areas roped off for VIP people. Churches that were partners with the ministries, or groups that had paid extra money, got to sit in these special areas up front. Everyone else that had just paid the regular price had to sit in the back. Sometimes we could not all sit together because there wasnt enough room in one area, and we had not reserved an area for our group. Apparently paying extra money for your group got your group mentioned up front, because the first day they were like And weve got guests from such-and-such church over here and then that church would clap to show everyone where they were. They did not mention any groups that were not seated in the VIP sections. At the beginning of the conference Keith Miller talked about how he felt there were going to be open heavens during this conference and people were going to get new anointing and stuff like that. I dont remember much about Keith Miller, except that when he was invoking the Holy Spirit, he kept saying psssshhh, pssssh into the microphone. Like, Come down Holy Spirit, psssh, psssh, psssh. The Holy Spirits coming tonight, psssh, pssh. Psssh. Psssh. It was very weird, and I did not know that making hissing noises into the microphone like that got the Holy Spirit to come down. It actually made me a little uncomfortable, the way he was doing it. But I had not experienced something like that before, so I did not pay much attention to it, but it did not seem much like praying to me. He talked a lot about angels appearing to him and such, and how there were angels in the room. He talked a lot about mantles. How God was going to rip off a tiny piece of His robe and float it on down to you to cover you, and you would get a new mantle that would give you some kind of power. That prophetic mantles, and healing mantles, etc, would be given out today, straight from God. (They tie this in with Elisha taking Elijahs mantle). So Barbie from Streams Ministries also spoke. She spoke about heavenly orbs that people would be seeing at conferences, and how they would capture them on camera. How these heavenly orbs were Gods glory and angels and things like that. How they had pictures of one that when you looked close, you would see a figure with her hands

held out. That these orbs (Angels) were here to minister to us. They showed pictures on the projector of orbs at other conferences, some of the pictures had more orbs than others. How many orbs were there was supposed to be in proportion to how much glory of God had come down. I was extremely skeptical about the whole orbs thing, because it just did not sound right to me. One of my friends caught orbs on her digital camera ,but when we showed them to our photographer friend back in San Antonio who could not come to the conference, told us that those orbs were nothing but lens flare. Also while Barbie was talking, she interpreted some dreams from pastors. She would only do it for pastors and not anyone else. The reason she gave for this was that they work hard and we need to give something back, etc. Strangely, all the pastors dreams, while each one very different, all seemed to mean that God would be blessing and expanding their ministry and bringing them rich people to their church to help. (One guy had some dream about diving into a well with a big fish ,and she took this to mean a big fish businessman who would be able to finance ministries.) When Todd Bentley finally spoke (I believe it was the 2nd day), the atmosphere in the room was like Finally! The guy we have been waiting for! And you could feel the room get excited in anticipation. He started out really energetic. There wasnt any prayer beforehand. He was sweating within like 3 minutes. Not that there is anything wrong with sweat, but you could see the perspiration on his brow from the back of the room. What was weird, was that he said he was going to preach on a psalm. So we all got out our bibles. But every time he went to try to read the verse, he would begin to laugh, and stagger, and make weird noises. This made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable. It seemed as though he was mocking the scripture, by laughing at it when he began to read it. Everyone admired him for this, though, saying he was so drunk in the Spirit that he could not read his bible! He would calm down, but as soon as he went over to the pulpit where his bible was, he would immediately become so drunk that he could not read nor preach, but just would stagger around laughing and snorting for a few minutes. Still acting rather drunk, he began to preach about all the great things hes done (with Gods help, of course.) About how he went from having no money to having a multi-million dollar ministry, and healing, etc, and how great it all was. Everyone thought this was a fantastic testimony on his part, but I wondered why God would have him set aside whatever he was going to preach on to brag about his accomplishments. He laughed, snorted, and chortled through his entire speech. Whenever he would begin to mention something a scripture said, he would become incoherent. Why could he not read nor recite the scriptures without breaking into a fit? But was able to maintain enough composure to brag about all the great stuff Gods done with him. It was seriously disturbing to me that people were eating this up. He talked a lot about how he would go to the third heaven, and how many times hes met angels, etc. And how you, too, can get into a Holy-Spirit induced trance whenever you want and go to heaven, and how hes got teachings on how to do it. (apparently we can force the Holy Spirit to take us to heaven and have out-of-body experiences whenever we want.) He related one tale, of a witch doctor. Who had come to a conference of his. That night God took him out-ofbody, supposedly, and into the witch doctors dreams, and witnessed to him while he was dreaming. The witch doctor came back the next day saved because of being witnessed to while he was dreaming. He also talked about one time, he got taken up

into the third heaven, and angels were running around saying The books of destiny, the books of destiny! and stuffed a page from one of those books which had a map of this one African country into his mouth, and then 3 days later the ruler of that country called his ministry. Eventually he quit talking about his accomplishments and moved right into the Awesome Signs and Wonders part of his talk (so there was no sermon or teaching. Just Todd saying how awesome he is, and now I guess proving it.) So he starts blowing people down in the spirit and such. And calling people out based on sicknesses, and they would fall down and be healed. But mostly of stuff you cant see. Actually, all stuff you cant see. Like one lady supposedly had chronic elbow pain, and she said it was gone after she had fallen down under the power. He had everyone who had a metabolism problem stand up because He felt the Lord was going to reverse metabolisms and that everyone would be free from struggling with their weight, if they would just stand up and get this blessing. TONS of people (fat, and those who thought they were fat), stood up as he spoke words of healing over them. He prophesied over one lady, that she was going to get the Esther anointing. Apparently in the prophetic world, women can only have one of two things, 1. A Jezebel Spirit or 2. An Esther Anointing. Apparently the Esther anointing means God gives you favor with people to get where you want to. (like the King had favor with Esther.) Like if you want to get promoted at a job, having the Esther anointing with give you favor with your employer to get promoted. Things like that. So he prophesied that this anointing would fall on her, and many good things would come her way because of it. Getting the Esther anointing is a sure way to get ahead in the world, apparently. He also called a boy that had been helping collect offerings, who looked to be about 8 years old. He prophesied over him that he would have many ministries and bring many people to God. Then he threw the Spirit into the boy, and the boy shook as if having a seizure, and then fell over. When the boy got up and went off the stage, Todd called the boy back up and did it again, so the boy shook and fell down, twice. Todd also prophesied over a very young girl (about six or seven), all good things of course, and then did the shake/fall thing with her, only he made her come back two more times, for a total of three. Each time the girl got up crying, and was on her way to her mother, but since Todd called her back, someone would take her hand and guide her back to Todd. When she finally did get to her mother she hugged her very tightly. I could not tell if she was crying because she was frightened or not. Todd eventually went through the aisles blowing down aisles of people. He skipped my aisle. When Todd Bentley took up the offerings (on top of the other offerings that were already taken, and the entrance fee ,and whatever ridiculous amount of money they were profiting off their books and prayer hankies), he began to talk about how God had given him a word that somebody in the congregation was going to feel led by the Lord to write a check for twenty thousand dollars, and God was going to bless them for that. And that if you felt that that word was for you, and you are the one with twenty thousand dollars in the bank, you should get out your checkbook, because God was going to bless you by multiplying your offering 100x. He talked about seed offerings a little, too, saying that if you gave a seed offering,

your checkbook would be bulging because God was going to bless you, and you would be able to get a new house, and a new car, and whatever else you needed. He was really intent on getting somebody out there to write a twenty thousand dollar check, because he went back to it a few times during this offering speech. Todd Bentley said that, the next night, to pack in the sick people because there would be a healing angel there. I did not know how they planned to pack in the sick people since you had to have a wristband to get in. He also said that he had seen a giant angel straddling the church to protect us from evil spirits. Also he promised that he and Keith Miller would touch and bless every single person there, no matter how long it took. And man, people were seriously anticipating that. They looked forward to it, hoping that God would give Todd Bentley a word just for them. I wanted a word from God, too, of course. I prayed to God that if this was really of Him, He would knock me down and give me a word so I would know if it was. But that if it was not, I did not want to fall down just because I was emotional or because somebody pushed me, or because I felt I had to. I have not been baptized in the Holy Spirit, so my friend suggested that I pray for that, and pray for my prayer language (tongues), to come. So I prayed that if the Holy Spirit was there, that something would happen. I did not pray for tongues specifically, but just something from the Holy Spirit so I would know that it was Him. (I was extremely uncomfortable with a lot of what was going on, but my friends kept saying it was because I was not used to it, and that I just needed to let the Holy Spirit flow.) I prayed for most of the third day through the conference, and decided to not be so skeptical. At lunch break, one of my friends was so drunk in the spirit we wondered if it was safe for him to drive. He drove, but we watched him in the mirror and he was definitely having jerky limb movements while driving. We were glad he did not get into an accident the way he was driving. There was a quadriplegic boy that was deformed in a wheelchair. His mother was spoon-feeding him in the hallway. They had come to the conference every day. You could tell by the hopeful expression on his face he wanted to get healed, and that was why he was here. I prayed that God might grant their request, and if it was God speaking to Todd Bentley, that He would give him a word and heal the boy. But all of Todd Bentleys words from the Lord were to heal people of being fat, or tennis elbow, or having chronic bowel trouble. The quadriplegic boy left the service in the same physical state that he had come. So did all the other people that were wearing leg braces, or using crutches, or canes. I wondered why God wouldnt heal them, but heal all these other people of much more minor ailments. Todd Bentley spoke about the kingly anointing. He took some obscure passage from the old testament and talked about how the kingly anointing allows us to hand out judgment and serve justice in the world by decreeing righteousness. And how, when we have it, we can proclaim things and then justice will supernaturally happen. But if we dont decree it, then the injustice is allowed to stay. Like if someone does something wrong, we have to set forth a heavenly decree saying That isnt right! Its not right, and I will not tolerate it! and then something will happen to serve justice, because you put forth your decree of judgment under your kingly anointing. Like if somebody beats you

up, you can be like It isnt righteous! Its wrong! I will not stand it any longer, Lord! , and then watch them get run over by a car. Wham, Bam, Justice served. (Ok, I exaggerate with the car running over people. But that was the main jist of it, was that people would get their just deserves. ) Then he led the congregation in prayer over their bellies, saying that water would come from our bellies and bring life. Then he led a prayer for the kingly anointing to fall on everybody so everybody could go out decreeing righteousness. That preaching didnt last long; pretty soon it was all about the healing. Todd Bentley asked people to get out their cell phones and call a sick person, because he was going to speak the healing words through all these cell phones, and so everyone would be healed all at once. That seemed weird to me, but I was game, because my mom was really sick at the time. But I found I could not call her because I had not brought my cell phone with me that night (which is odd because I had brought it the other two nights, in my purse, but had not put it in my purse that day. I had left it in the hotel room.) After he spoke the healing words my friend lent me her cell phone, after she had called her mom (who was also ill) but it was too late because hed already spoken the healing words. I was devastated; because my mom was super sick at the time (this was around the time of her surgery on her neck, and being diagnosed with Lyme disease.) I cried a lot, and wondered why God would have let me forget my cell phone, and miss a chance to have my mother healed. My friend was very comforting to me during this. People began to share testimonies over the cell phones of people getting healed. The people my friends called did not seem to get healed over the phone. Todd Bentley supposedly cast out a demon that was causing a woman chronic lower back pain. (if you have lower back pain, it is always a demon lodged in your sciatic nerve, he said. This was supported by the illnesses card that was being sold by Streams Ministries that I mentioned earlier.). She writhed on the floor screaming for quite a few minutes while he was casting out the demon, then hopped up all happy and thrilled, saying her back pain was gone. It was seriously disturbing watching this woman writhe on the floor. I suppose that makes sense though, since if it was a demon it is natural to be disturbed at it manifesting. So at the end of the conference, we were supposed to move our chairs out of the way and stand in line to get the anointing from Todd Bentley and Keith Miller. The prophets went in the back room to pray while everyone stacked their chairs along the walls. Then we all lined up in semi-circles with space in-between, and waited for them to come back out. They came back out and you were supposed to hold out your hands, and wait for them to touch you. They had men to walk behind the lines to catch you so you would not hurt yourself as you fell. So they were touching peoples hands, and people would fall over. So lots of people were falling. They got to one guy, and he would go into a seizure-like state, as he was falling, sort of crazy dancing and squealing. They thought this was great, and it made them laugh, so they had the catchers lift him back up so they could touch him again and laugh as he did this weird dancing/seizure thing as he fell backwards. They did that a few times. They did not spend a lot of time with most of the people, just touched them and moved on. I was praying during time that God would

show me if it was of Him or not. I was a little frightened at the prospect of it NOT being of Him, and possibly opening myself up to the influence of evil spirits. So I was a little scared too, I did not want a bad spirit to make me fall over. I had considered opting out of being touched, but then I thought what if it IS of God and I miss my chance to get a word from God? So when they finally got to me, Todd Bentley said FIRE OF GOD! as he touched my hands. But I felt nothing. Certainly not any fire. The other guy touched my hands as they passed by. I just had a very heavy feeling, and I began to cry. One of the prayer ladies that were following them to pray stopped by me because she had seen that I had not fallen, and she put her hand on my forehead to pray for me. She did not seem to understand that I wasnt falling, because she kept praying for the Spirit to come over me, and pushed her hand harder on my forehead. Her pushing made me plant my feet even more firmly on the ground. She was not going to knock me over. She gave up when she realized I was not going to fall over, and was just going to keep crying, so she moved on. I was not the only one who did not fall over. I noticed that a few others did not either. I went and sat by the wall to pray, and was crying a lot because I just felt horrible at this whole experience, and was wondering where God was in all of this. The prayer pastor from my vineyard came over to talk to me, but I did not have much to say. I could not express what I was feeling about this whole event, and everyone just assumed that the holy spirit had touched me through the prophets and that was why I was crying, they did not know I was crying because God did NOT touch me through those prophets, and I did not know how to tell them that I didnt think that God was here. I felt uncomfortable about the whole conference, and it just reached a climax at that point, as I saw people shaking with seizure-like things, and laughing uncontrollably, and rolling around on the floor. I cried a lot, also, because nobody seemed to really be praying to God. In fact not a whole lot of prayer seemed to go on during this conference, for as long as it lasted, there were only a few times that any of the speakers prayed. The only prayer was to call down the Holy Spirit, or ask for angels to heal or give an anointing. They talked about the Holy Spirit a lot, and not so much about Jesus or the Gospel. There wasnt hardly any talk about sin, or repentance either. Just anointing and mantles and prophecy. Anyway, it was getting late, and people were still lying around under the influence of the Spirit, or dancing around, etc. Because they wanted to get home and close up the church, they kicked everybody out. Some people had to be carried out. And that was the end of that. We drove back to San Antonio that night. For my birthday (we had a birthday party for me and one of my friends while in Austin because our birthdays were that week), my friends had bought me Todd Bentleys Autobiography and his cd, marinating. Listening to the CD disturbed my spirit. It seemed like trance-inducing music with Todd Bentley popping in once in awhile to try to hypnotize you. His autobiography said some interesting things as well, but I cannot remember all of them now, but he talks a lot about all the supernatural experiences hes had after being saved (some of them are really weird.). I was very disappointed leaving the conference, I did not feel refreshed or renewed like everybody else was saying they did. I didnt fall under the power or receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, or anything that I had gone

there expecting. I did feel like He showed me where NOT to look for Him, though, because I felt like the whole thing grieved God very much. I did not fully understand exactly what made me feel horrible, but I know that my uneasiness was not just because it was unfamiliar to me. Many times during the services it seemed like they were mocking God, though nobody took notice of it. I could not explain to everyone why I felt so disturbed, so I mostly kept my mouth shut. Later, after God led me to leave my church (I was having issues with my church as well), I began to realize what was wrong with the conference, and why God did not like it, and I would remember things I had previously forgotten about the conference that disturbed me. There were many other things that happened at the conference that I have not mentioned here, but I cannot remember all the details of them all.

Toronto/Brownsville and Beyond

The Acid Cloud This vision will be controversial to many who read it. I have also included the analysis of the person who forwarded it to the newsgroup where I saw it; in my opinion, he has quite accurately analyzed the vision according to the Word. If this one bothers you, don't fire back an email to me immediately. Pray about it. Search the Word for the Lord's voice. Then, if you still feel the need, feel free. VISION OF THE ACID CLOUD - 1994 The following very significant vision was given to a man in England way back in September 1994. Events have so far proved it very accurate indeed. (Source: Integrity Teaching Services, 10 Hyde Park Close, Headingly, Leeds LS6 1SF, United Kingdom). THE ACID CLOUD - A VISION - RICHARD SMITH. This vision emerged with an unusually vivid degree of clarity on Thursday morning the 29th September, 1994, just before I was about to go out and do some studying. Following a period of pouring out my distressed feelings about the condition of the Church to Jesus, who is our heavenly Advocate, I saw ahead of me a large billowing black cloud which carried lots of soot and other pollutants. Its sulfurous stench revealed that here was no natural cloud, but rather it was the type of acid cloud which arises from the explosion of some chemical plant or oil installation. Blown by its own momentum, the acid cloud was rapidly heading towards a low waterless desert plain which lay beneath some rocky mountains. Filling the plain were all types of people whom I understood represented the Christian population of England. Most were indigenous white Anglo-Saxons, but there were members of various ethnic minorities as well. These stood for the immigrant population in England. FOUR GROUPS. On closer inspection, I could see that this vast assembly was divided into four main groups. The first of these was the one that was nearest to the cloud and was obviously coming under its influence. This particular group can be known as the intoxicated. Behind them, closely intermingled together, were the second and third

groups - these can be known as the fearful and the angry. Still further behind at a little distance was a smaller group who will be known as the prepared. However, one fact was obvious - the acid cloud was going to cover all four groups regardless of whether they wanted it to or not. It was at this point that I perceived that the cloud was blowing in from the Westerly direction. In response to this cloud, the first group was laughing, dancing and singing. A few of their members were lying prostrate and making all kinds of animal noises. Some were so deliriously happy that they actually formed a dance line, which - while they were dancing the conga - snaked its way into the cloud. With a start, I realized their mistake. Already intoxicated by invisible fumes were emanating from the front of the cloud. This group was wrongly assuming that the polluted cloud was a refreshing rain cloud that represented God's presence. They failed to see what its true nature was. The second group of Christians saw what the cloud consisted of, but then panicked. Some ran away and tripped over, knocking themselves out, while others stood there, frozen to the ground, looking in two directions at once. Like the first group, they too were swallowed up by the cloud. Their fundamental mistake was to panic in the face of evil. Whilst this was happening, the third group of Christians (who also saw that the cloud was a menace) stood before it shaking their fists and making all kinds of angry noises. Some were kicking at it with their feet. Like the previous two groups, they were clad in light, flimsy summer clothing. Their mistake was to try to fight the cloud in their own strength. Consequently, they too were swallowed up. Moreover, as the cloud ate up each of the three previous groups, there was silence, followed by ear piercing howls of pain, succeeded by more silence - which was broken only by the odd intermittent moan or throaty gurgle which very much reminded me of a First World War gas attack. THE PREPARED. However, the fourth group of Christians were getting ready to deal with the threat posed by this cloud. With urgent haste, they were donning anti-chemical suits of clothing, clamping on gas masks and putting on strong safety helmets which had a bright light, like a miner's lamp, attached to it. Above the lamp (which represented the light of the Holy Spirit) near the top of the helmet was a bright red spot. At once I discerned that this symbolized the Blood of Jesus Christ. It was His mark on this group. Strapped to their sides were white first-aid cases with red crosses on them. These carried a wide assortment of medical aids to help those Christians who had been burned by the cloud. In their right hands they carried strong transparent riot shields, while in their left hands they carried various types of weaponry. These were obviously designed to fight the various kinds of principalities which inhabit the cloud. Suddenly, at God's own timing, they formed a line, linked shields and marched at an orderly pace into the cloud. They were obviously directed by the Lord to do this. It was also clear that they were called to work very closely together. (Note; later, Richard was shown that the strategy of this group would be to advance at the Lord's command, fight

strenuously, rescue and minister to some of the wounded; then stand their ground awaiting the next call for advance). BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT. Somewhat taken aback by the implications of this vision, I then used my mind to apply 1 Jn. 4:1-3. In blunt Yorkshire tones, I said "Do you, the spirit who has brought this picture so vividly to mind, boldly confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh"? "Yes, I boldly confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh". "Fine, what do you say about the Blood He shed on the Cross?" "Through the Blood there is forgiveness of sin. It protected the Israelites from My judgment on the Egyptian firstborn". "Good. Now let's take counsel together and have some intelligent discuss- ion. Without repeating all the details that were revealed earlier, would you please, Abba Father, send your Holy Spirit to complete the interpretation of this vision?" THE INTERPRETATION. Still utterly in control of what was happening, I then slowly took stock of what the Holy Spirit was saying. While creating a piercing clarity of mind that served to heighten my intellectual faculties, the Holy Spirit gave me the following interpretation: 1) The acid cloud not only represented what is currently known as the Toronto Phenomenon, it also represents all that will come out of that occurrence. The Toronto Phenomenon is so to speak only the front edge of the cloud. It is paving a way for even more extreme manifestations of the evil one. In short, "Toronto" can be seen as a beginning rather than an end. 2) Being blown by its own momentum indicates that within the cloud there is only what can be described as a hostile alien spirit. It is the head spirit of many other spirits which inhabit the cloud. More- over, this alien spirit has been given permission by God to try the loyalties of Christians in this country. Through a process of sharp division, which will cause many wounds, it will become really clear who in the Church is standing by Jesus and who is not. However, some of those who belong to the first three groups will be given a few further chances to repent. For a little while, the opportunity to get back into a right relationship with God will exist. 3) The flat waterless desert plain represents English Society which is bereft of the Holy Spirit. It may also have some bearing on other places within the British Isles - even though it is England which is primarily represented. Another point to mention is that if the Lord's people had been on top of the Rocky Mountains, (which represents nearness to God's presence) then they would have escaped the influence of the acid cloud. Their position on the desert plain has left them desperately vulnerable to the corrosive effects. In other words, being in the place where Jesus Christ doesn't want them to be has stripped the Church of many spiritual defenses. Far from putting on the armor of God, it is wearing loose, light summer clothes. Furthermore, being in the desert place has caused many Christians to seek to assuage their thirst from the wrong spiritual sources. That is one reason why the first

group greeted the cloud with such enthusiasm. It seemed to offer an easy way to meet their needs. 4) As was stated earlier, the people in the plain were Christians - mainly charismatic/evangelical Christians, but there were also a fair number of representatives from the established denominations as well. They were conspicuous for their clerical collars, long robes and self-important expressions on their faces. It was clear that this cloud is going to have a very widespread effect. 5) As was clearly seen in the vision itself, the four groups represented four possible reactions to the acid cloud. Only the last was appropriate to the situation in hand. In particular, those who stood frozen to the ground looking in two directions, stood for Christian leaders who were trying to find expedient diplomatic solutions to what was an impossible situation. Not surprisingly, most of their supporters were quickly deserting them - leaving them alone to be swallowed up by the cloud. At this juncture, I believe the Holy Spirit is clearly saying "beware of man-made expedients in dealing with the Toronto Phenomenon". What the Church faces here is primarily a spiritual, not cultural or psychological problem. Spiritual weapons will be needed to deal with it. 6) The role of the fourth group, which was the only one really doing God's will, was twofold. Firstly it has to use the spiritual weapons given it to attack the principalities which were in the cloud. Secondly, it had to help restore Christians from the previous three groups who had been injured by it. Regrettably, some Christians they will have to bypass, because they will either refuse treatment or be in such a wild state that it will be impossible to deal with them. By no means will all Christians survive the passing of the cloud. Some will forsake their faith, while others will suffer from perm- anent physical and mental breakdowns. A few will even lose their very lives there. I began to see that the acid cloud was also the cloud of God's judgment that will have to pass over the Church until evil is forcibly removed from it. Only after the acid cloud has done its work will the Church be pure enough to receive the cloud of God's presence. This cloud will in turn bring further cleansing and much-needed revival. However, the time for this second cloud to pass over is not yet. Any hopes of immediate revival are therefore premature. This means that taken as a whole, the Toronto Phenomenon does not represent a time of refreshing, rather it represents what is perhaps the first installment of a VERY severe judgment on the churches in this country. In a very real sense, the mass of God's people are being handed over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. Only those who are faithful to the Lord in all things will be exempt from this judgment - even though they may be distressed by its consequences. For members of the fourth group, there is the challenge to stand together and not act as a group of disparate individuals.

In closing, I believe the Holy Spirit is challenging you who read this document to decide which groups you belong to - is it to be the intoxicated, the fearful, the angry or the prepared? Great evil is coming upon many churches in this country - there exists only a little time to make this decision.

MOST "CONTAGIOUS" ANOINTING - Florida - WARNING!

Andrew Strom - 5/09/08 Todd Bentley has declared that his Florida anointing is the most "contagious" that he has ever imparted to people. (In other words, the most easily transferable). And indeed this seems to be the case. It is spreading rapidly throughout the world. But what exactly is this anointing? One observer of the Florida revival notes: "Todd Bentley constantly manifests his "anointing" by shaking his head back and forth, and by his body physically shaking. These manifestations also happen frequently in those who he imparts to. He will even wave his arms over the audience, shouting, "Fire! Fire! Fire!" and then people in the audience will start manifesting. Some appear to be convulsing, and some even as if they are being thrashed by a spirit." In a CBN News interview, Todd stated: "Our focus here in Florida every night is I lay hands on every single person who comes - whether it's 5,000, 10,000 - And I'm praying every night, 'God, give it away, give it away, give it away.' And that's the focus here: Impartation." And indeed there are more and more reports of this anointing being transmitted from Florida to other states and nations across the globe. As we have already seen, a report from England tells of a preacher who brought Todd's anointing back from Florida and now it is manifesting in his UK meetings: "Fire, a burning sensation, was felt all over people's bodies... There were outbursts of joy, drunkenness and spontaneous healings throughout the meeting." A man from Clearwater, Florida says that a number of people from his fellowship have attended the revival and then brought the 'anointing' back with them. Here is what he personally saw: "These are the effects that I have witnessed on people who have attended this movement and either have had hands laid on them or claim to have been imparted with "the spirit": They come back with this kind of childlike drunken stupor. Descriptions of a burning sensation either in their veins, heads or stomachs. Descriptions of being washed back and forth like the waves in the ocean; Dancing about like drunk... Inappropriate yelling and screaming like they're at a football game;

Young men whistling over and over and holding their heads and claiming that they "feel the Holy Spirit about to split them in two"; One young man's back two teeth turned completely to some metallic finish. People with their eyes rolled in the back of their heads and weaving around like they're lost. Women just gyrating and pulsating like they're being ravaged from behind from some unseen force. Drunken uncontrollable laughter in the middle of a solemn prayer time People being "slain in the spirit"... just falling down and being unable to move (like something's holding them down)..." Another eyewitness from the USA writes: "A friend of mine invited me to a church where the ministry team brought back a "Fire" from the Lakeland revival The pastor's wife was moderating, but she could not complete her sentences because she was 'drunk in the Spirit.' She imitated the type of sounds I read in your blog. I saw people breaking out into uncontrollable laughter. I came with my Bible to receive a word There was no teaching or preaching. Just testimonies. They talked about their experience in Lakeland... Where was the word? I did not find any. I also heard a sound BAM and then I saw someone being slain in the spirit." A Spirit-filled pastor that I know from the UK who has been following Todd Bentley's ministry closely for some years wrote to me about what he himself has observed since the year 2000: "My difficulty with Todd Bentley's ministry is not whether he has recently covered himself with tattoos or pierced himself silly, but the SOURCE of his power. He keeps changing his position on this. Sometimes he says it's the Holy Spirit and a lot of the time it's his angels "Many have said that they believe that Florida is a 'mixture'. Personally, I do not believe 'mixture' is involved. I believe these deceiving spirits have hi-jacked Todd's ministry Either the healings are of God or they are not. Which is it? "People can be healed in spiritualist churches. I have witnessed, close-up, first hand, people being instantly healed by mediums and faith healers. I have also seen people healed by the power of the Holy Spirit. To begin with there is no discernible difference. However the counterfeit healings soon begin to either go wrong or something far worse comes upon the person. "When God heals someone - He adds 'no sorrow.' "I know Todd started off OK - I was there in his early meetings In September 2000 I stood in front of Todd and gave him the warning that God gave me for him. "Beware, the

leaven of the Pharisees, lest an angelic leaven enters your ministry." "One month later, according to Todd's own account, at a meeting in Grants Pass Oregon, Cal Pierce walked in with Branham's 'Healing Revival' angel in tow, Todd saw and accepted this spirit without reservation. His 'angels' have been with him ever since. "I have written to Todd on numerous occasions and reminded him of God's warning, alas to no avail. "When Todd Bentley conducted a healing meeting in a large charismatic church here in England in 2005, he laid hands on many people who were apparently healed. I know of at least one instance where a pastor's wife with cancer was prayed for by Todd. Soon afterwards she heard voices in her head telling her to 'drown herself just like her father did'. The poor woman ended up in a mental hospital, I believe she still has the cancer. "No-one is following up or keeping records of what happens to people who have hands laid on them by Todd or others like him. "I have kept records as far as I can, concerning this particular church. Over a relatively short period, there has been a dramatic increase in premature deaths, cancers, marriage break-ups, sickness and disease amongst the congregation where the leadership have allowed this type of ministry into their church. Many people left the church in fear. "These are the consequences of following this type of 'ministry' which no-one is either aware of, or wants to address. I know, I have visited the people in hospital and attended one of the funerals" Meanwhile we find a number of prominent leaders beginning to declare that this will be one of the greatest revival movements in history. Some even see it as the beginning of a "new awakening". Bob Jones declared that "This move will be a global move, traveling with signs and wonders all over the world! The third wave is here!" As this 'anointing' spreads worldwide, I believe there are some serious questions that we need to ask ourselves: Isn't it possible, with all the dubious 'anointings' and angels and manifestations associated with Bentley's ministry, that what we are really seeing is a giant 'counterfeit' revival? Isn't it possible that if it continues to grow at the present rate, that it may literally become one of the great "delusions" of the Last Days - a great deception that has the power to actually deceive, if possible, the very elect? These are very serious questions - but I believe they must be asked - because this

'anointing' is already beginning to circle the globe. If you have been to a meeting where someone has brought the "fire" back from Florida, please write and tell me what you saw. I am collecting accounts from people about this. Send any emails or feedback to prophetic@revivalschool.com Our website: www.revivalschool.com God bless you all.

Revival Spirits from Eastern Religions

David Eells (Click here for Swedish translation of this page)

Hinduism's Kundalini Yoga

Kundalini Yoga adherents are recognizing the manifestations of Toronto/Brownsville/Lakeland "Revivals" as those of the Kundalini serpent rising through the chakras to the mind in these people. This is none other than possession by the New Age Eastern spirits. Bible respecters know that these manifestations are not the experiences or demonstrations of our spiritual forefathers. In the chart below the Revival" manifestations on the left are taken from observations and testimonies of the false revivals. The Kundalini Yoga manifestations on the right are taken directly from a Kundalini website and www.gospelassemblyfree.com and users.stargate.net/~ejt

Toronto/Brownsville/Lakeland Manifestations Uncontrollable laughter

Kundalini Yoga Manifestations Laughing and weeping are as unintentional and uncontrollable as hiccoughs Jerking, tremors, shaking Postures or moving one's body in unusual ways Spontaneous trance states Spontaneous vocalizations

Jerking, tremors, shaking Involuntary body movements Spontaneous trance states Making animal noises, roaring, barking, mooing

Muscle twitches or spasms Guidance through inner voice falsely thought to be God. False visions and dreams Being "drunk in the spirit" Feeling rushes, heat, electricity Many fleshly sensations Supernatural smelling of scents Out-of-body experiences How one receives this "blessing" Impartation through the laying on of hands Who can administer this "blessing"? Anyone who has received the false anointing

Muscle twitches or spasms Guidance through inner voices, visions, dreams Mental confusion, difficulty concentrating Energy rushes, electricity circulating in the body Vibrating, tingling sensations Experiencing the smell of flowers, incense Out-of-body experiences How one receives Kundalini Awakening Through the laying on of hands during "Shakti-pat" initiation Who can give Shakti-pat? Anyone who has received the ability from the Guru or one of his disciples

These Kundalini spirits and other spirits of eastern religions have sought to enter many revivals. In some cases the discernment of the leaders saved them. Jessie Penn-Lewis gives a report of this spirit in the Wales revival: "The counterfeit of the Presence of God is mainly felt upon the body, and by the physical senses, in conscious 'fire,' 'thrills,' etc. The counterfeit of the 'Presence' in the atmosphere is felt by the senses of the body, as 'breath,' 'wind,' etc., whilst the mind is passive or inactive. The person affected by this counterfeit will be moved almost automatically to actions he would not perform of his own will, and with all his faculties in operation. He may not even remember what he has done under the 'power' of this 'presence.'" Jessie-Penn Lewis, War On the Saints, page. 153 "But another man had the same impulse, and fell down groaning and roaring, beating the floor with his hands and feet, and the demon entered into him as the angel of light, and got him to think that his conduct was of the Holy Ghost, and it became a regular habit in the meetings he attended. . ." War on the Saints pg. 150 "Nothing supernatural should be felt by the senses, but by the spirit. . .Counterfeits of today are generally wrought upon the soulish - or sense life - of believers who have not learnt to distinguish between soul and spirit." Jessie Penn Lewis, The Spiritual Warfare, pgs. 16-17

Buddhisms "Emma-O" - Lord of Hell Excerpts from pjmiller.wordpress.com The news about (Bob) Jones was reported in the Olathe Daily News paper, 11/31/91. It contained that Jones admitted to sexual misconduct. He was removed from ministry to undergo a process of restoration. This news was also published in a book called What Happened To The Fire by Lee Grady (1994). On page 103 it states, About a year later, after the church had become affiliated with John Wimbers Vineyard network of churches, Jones admitted to a moral failure and was removed from his leadership position. Later, Mike Bickle stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. He admitted that his churchs emphasis on prophecy and mystical experiences had been unhealthy and destructive. Then, in another review of the Kansas City Prophets, Bill Alnor of the Christian Sentinal reported the following: Jones, who was using his spiritual authority to induce women to disrobe for him, was removed from that church. I have contacted Bill personally and he will be forwarding me a copy of the investigative internal report that was published directly by the leadership team at the church where this incident transpired. The Apologetics Index, which is a ministry that researches resources on cults, sects and other religious movements, doctrines and practices, also reported on the matter. They state the following, that Bob Jones was removed from the Vineyard Anaheim because of sexual improprieties, which consisted of encouraging women to undress in his office so they could stand naked before the Lord in order to receive a word. In addition to this, several cult watch organizations have put him (Bob Jones) on watch for the same thing. Those are my sources concerning the sexual misconduct issue And this is the man who Todd Bentley is listening to and who asks him about, and promotes this Angel by the name of Emma. While researching this revival today, and the programs being aired at GODTV, it was noted by at least 2 people who watched a recent program that this Angel was also being referred to by Bentley as not only Emma but Emma-O on occasion. Could that be a slip of the tongue on his part, or a clue to who this really is? From Answers.com: "Emma-O," derived from the Sanskrit Yama (see Yama), is the Japanese Buddhist Lord of Jigoku, or Hell (see Jigoku). Emma judges souls and places them in hells appropriate to their crimes. In this context there are a total of eight hells. These have been described by people who were for one reason or another released from punishment. The hells are a popular subject for Japanese scrolls. Emmas primary enemy is Jiz (see Jiz), always a supporter of the dead souls against Emma and usually the victor over his dark adversary. As Jizs popularity has grown and Emmas diminished, Emma has become a demon. David's note: The tattoos of these demons are here (pdf).

Regardless, if you believe there could be a connection between Bob Jones angel, Emma, (and Todd Bentleys) with this false god or demon in mythology, is neither here nor there. What both these men are communicating with is a demon disguised as an Angel of God. There is not ONE iota of doubt in my mind that this is true. Ive prayed and wept many tears before the Lord concerning this. Do not be deceived, friends; it is what it is. Ask yourself, would this Angel Emma have helped birth (as Jones claims) such a movement as the KCPs which not only introduced the false notion that prophets only have to be correct part of the time, and the other false teachings, but also produced sexual scandals within the movement?.. Let's begin with Todds own words: Now let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me about this angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: 'Todd, have you ever seen the angel by the name of Emma?' He asked me as if he expected that this angel was appearing to me. Surprised, I said, 'Bob, who is Emma?' He told me that Emma was the angel that helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord said, 'Heres Emma.' Im not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost like Kathryn Kuhlman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and youngabout 22 years old-but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life. "She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began putting gold dust. The Lord answered: 'She is releasing the gold, which is both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that I am bringing into this church. I want you to prophecy that Emma showed up in this service-the same angel that appeared in Kansas city-as a sign that I am endorsing and releasing a prophetic spirit in the church' on people. 'God, what is happening?' I asked. (courtesy of endtimes prophectic words) A further portion of the quote from Todd Bentley on Emma: "Within three weeks of that visitation, (from 'Emma') the church had given me the biggest offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands! During this visitation the pastors wife (it was an AOG church) got totally whacked by the Holy Ghost - she began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful prophetic spirit came on her. Also, as this prophetic anointing came on her, she started getting phone numbers of complete

strangers and calling them up on the telephone and prophesying over them Then angels started showing up in the church. Now ask yourself, is that REALLY evidence of the God of the Bible? I also know we were warned more than once to beware of false prophets: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not 2 Peter 2:1-3

Mother Emma, Imma, Mary Connection

by David Eells Todd Bentley reported that Bob Jones told him that, Emma was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out among the Kansas City prophets; that she birthed that movement. She appeared to Todd as young and beautiful and the picture of a Proverbs 31 woman gliding inches above the floor. This sounds very much like the Mary that many worship today. A Catholic brother who came to us for counsel had been infected by the Kundalini spirit through a sexual relationship with a woman who was infected. At this time he believed he was being personally shepherded, protected and warned by the virgin Mary. Emma or Imma appears to be the mother goddess among eastern spirits in different cultures in the Bible and now. She was called the Queen of Heaven, Astarte, Asherah, Ashtoreth, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite, and these all lead back to Semarimis, the false virgin who conceived the false son of god, Tammuz, at Babel. These mothers of god were all joined in Catholicisms & Orthodox's Mary. In Kabbalah teachings, Imma, meaning mother, appears to be birthing the god consciousness of Kundalini who is called Abba, or father. This god consciousness manifests through the same parts of the body that the fathering Kundalini serpent rises through -- from the navel to the head. The following paragraphs are taken from this page. Basics in Kabbalah and Chassidut: The Stages of the Creative Process from God's Infinite Light to Our Physical World. The parenthesized italics notes are products of my search for definitions from this page and others along with comparing them to the same experiences in other religions. Imma "Mother" Imma is the general partzuf (the will to receive that enables one to receive and ultimately give the god consciousness - Kundalini) which develops in the world of

Atzilut (god consciousness manifested in one) from the sefirah of binah ("understanding"). In Atzilut (god consciousness), as in the Divine soul of Israel, it is the second "conscious" power, the power of the mind to grasp, develop and integrate an idea (a seminal insight which Imma (Mother) receives from Abba (Father)). It is the inner spiritual power to "hear," meditate upon and contemplate a truth until it becomes fully internalized in one's consciousness. The general partzuf Imma "enclothes" the "left arm" of the partzuf Arich Anpin, the particular partzuf Imma Ila'ah extending from the "chin" of Arich Anpin to the "chest" of Arich Anpin and the particular partzuf Tevunah extending from the "chest" to the "naval." We are taught in Kabbalah that the two higher partzufim of Abba and Imma, Abba Ila'ah and Imma Ila'ah, unite to become one. So do the two lower partzufim of Abba and Imma, Yisrael Saba and Tevunah. It is amazing that the emailed experience of the Catholic man came to us at the same time as this article above was sent to us. God is helping us to see that this false revival phenomenon is already all over the world being described in different terminology to fit the religion. This appears to be one facet of the devil's plan to rebuild a Babel one world order religion, joining the Catholic, Orthodox and Jewish faiths with the "spirit-filled Christian" faiths through the eastern Mariolatry spirits who have worked through the ages. Just as Mary was not the mother of God but the mother of the flesh that Jesus came in, so this Emma/Imma is a mother of flesh for a false Kundalini father to manifest in. The Son of God came from heaven to be manifested in the Son of man born through the real Mary. {Rom.1:3} concerning his Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, {4} who was declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead. {Jn.3:6} That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Also, the Lakeland/Bentley revival is said to be a healing revival. I heard of, but never saw, healings in the Brownsville revival, even though I went several times and live two miles from there. The ministers walked around the sick to pray for those who wanted a fleshly manifestation. The papers in this city (Pensacola) sought to verify these healings after the fact and found that the people had reverted back to their sicknesses or it was a ruse to begin with. If the present revival is now manifesting healings it is as the spiritists and psychics are manifesting. The Mariolatry spirits are known for manifesting these kinds of healings, the overwhelming majority of which are bogus and dont last. The Catholic Church only claims about 40 as miracles out of the millions who have gone to the Mariolatry shrines. Often the person who seeks healing from Mary receives worse damage than they had. On the other hand I have seen Catholic Charismatics (Spiritfilled) receive true healings who emphasize the Bible and Jesus as the savior and healer and sometimes the only mediator between God and man.

Please Ask God About the Revival

Anonymous. I emailed you for your discernment (of the revival) and the email did not go through. Then I asked God and I had a dream. I saw a lit cigarette on my fingers and smoke around me. I looked at that cigarette in shock and said, "What am I, as a child of God, doing with this cigarette in my hand?" At that very moment the fire on the cigarette was put out and I threw that cigarette away. That was when I knew that this revival was a deception. Only after seeing this on that morning, I sent you that email to ask for your discernment and the Lord showed you that it was connected to Toronto/Brownsville revival. I had no knowledge of this. So God gives His true children discernment and protection from the devil. (Note from David: Cigarette smoking represents partaking of unclean spirits. "Breath" in Hebrew is the word for spirit. This revival is an invasion of dirty, unclean breath or spirits.) ************

Spirits from the East Burn with "Fire" the Fruit of God's People, and America
David Eells Friends, I have had much experience with the after-effects of Toronto, Brownsville and many spin-offs like Lakeland. I went to the Brownsville Revival when it first started, which was only two miles from my house. Through discerning of spirits I saw demons being imparted and demons in the evangelist. I love God's people who have fallen into this apostasy. I have cast out many spirits from these victims and, sadly, not always with lasting success. Some were ignorant and innocent who kept their deliverance but some were given over to this because of sin and rebellion against the Word. {2 Thes.2:9} [even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. God's people are being destroyed by spirits of Eastern religions I was told many years ago by the Lord, "I will move the Sauls out of the way to make room for the Davids." I learned that He wasn't speaking of a physical death of these leaders so much as a spiritual death such as happened to the Pharisees and Sadducees before Jesus came to the throne of David over spiritual Israel. Saul and his followers are dying on Mt. Gilboa at the hands of their old man, symbolized by the Philistines. This is happening to make room for the anointing of David in a modern-day first-fruits company in whom Jesus lives.

When I was thinking on the spirits of eastern religions that are invading the U.S. and Christianity through false leaders and their false revivals, the Lord said to me, "Look up the scriptures that speak of the "east wind." At that time I was reminded that the Hebrew Word translated "wind" in scriptures is "ruwach," which I found to be translated three times more often as "spirit" and "spirits." So when we translate the same Hebrew word as "spirits," a whole new understanding comes forth. I found a clear connection in the verses that use this word when preceded with the word "EAST." In them the EAST SPIRITS causes the FIRE to burn up the apostate people of God and their fruit. Fire! Fire! Fire! Or More! More! More! Or Bam! are revival mantras to call up the eastern spirits or demons. {Lev.10:1} And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took each of them his censer, and put fire therein, and laid incense thereon, and offered strange fire before Jehovah, which he had not commanded them. {2} And there came forth fire from before Jehovah, and devoured them, and they died before Jehovah. Also seen in these EAST SPIRITS scriptures is a cause for the destruction of America. {Hos.12:1} Ephraim (the Church) feedeth on wind, and followeth after the east wind (spirits): he continually multiplieth lies and desolation; and they make a covenant with Assyria (the beast kingdom), and oil (anointing) is carried into Egypt (the world). In type, Ephraim here represents the Church because he was the second son of Joseph, who was the clearest type of Jesus in the Bible. He was sold into bondage by his brothers, lied about by the harlot, and was thrown into prison. Here, like Jesus, he preached to the spirits in prison, some of whom went up and some down. Then he was resurrected out of prison to be Lord over all. Ephraim, the Church, received the double-portion inheritance from Jesus that should have been given to firstborn, Manasseh, who represents Israel, which refused the inheritance (Gen.48:17-19). God said, Israel is my son, my firstborn (Ex.4:22). Ephraim was called a multitude (Hebrew: fullness) of nations because they represented the Church of all nations. The Church is the Fathers second born (born again) son who received the double-portion that Israel, the firstborn, should have received but rejected. Now we see in this verse that the church is feeding on these eastern spirits and making a covenant with their fleshly beast as the true anointing is swallowed up in bondage to the world. We also see in the text that the church in general will be painfully delivered of a mature man-child but will not individually bear the fruit of Christ to be a part of that first-fruits company. {Hos.13:12} The iniquity of Ephraim (the Church) is bound up; his sin is laid up in store. {13} The sorrows of a travailing woman (the Church) shall come upon him (to birth the man-child company of Revelation 12): he is an unwise son; for it is time he should not tarry in the place of the breaking forth of children. (They waited too late to bear the personal fruit of Christ to be in this first-fruits company.) {14} I will ransom them from the power of Sheol; I will redeem them from death: O death, where are thy plagues? O Sheol, where is thy destruction? (God will save the repentant among them through tribulation.) repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (How is this destruction coming to them?) {15} Though he be fruitful among his brethren, an east wind (spirits) shall come, the breath of Jehovah coming up from

the wilderness; and his spring shall become dry, and his fountain (of living waters; the Word) shall be dried up: he shall make spoil of the treasure of all goodly vessels. (In the "revivals" it is plainly seen that the Word, which is their source of life, is no longer spoken.) {16} Samaria shall bear her guilt; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword; their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. (Samaria was the northern 10 tribes who worshipped the golden calf and after the captivity the beast brought in non-Israelites to take God's covenant there.) {Jer.18:15} For my people have forgotten me, they have burned incense to false [gods]; and they have been made to stumble in their ways, in the ancient paths (They are departing from the paths laid down by the scriptures), to walk in bypaths, in a way not cast up; {16} to make their land an astonishment, and a perpetual hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished, and shake his head. (The eastern spirits are driving the apostates from their spiritual land of promise into desolation. This is proven by the fruits of these revivals.) {17} I will scatter them as with an east wind (spirits) before the enemy (They are being scattered before the demons of eastern religions.); I will show them the back, and not the face, in the day of their calamity. {18} Then said they, Come, and let us devise devices against Jeremiah (These apostates will, like their spiritual forefathers the Pharisees, attack the true prophet and type of the man-child.); for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet (The reason for their hatred of them is the Word they speak and live.). {Isa.27:7} Hath he smitten them (Israel) as he smote those that smote them? or are they slain according to the slaughter of them that were slain by them? {8} In measure, when thou sendest them away, thou dost contend with them; he hath removed [them] with his rough blast in the day of the east wind (spirits). (This represents the removing of some apostates through the eastern spirits while contending with a measure of others to separate a true church from their midst.) {9} Therefore by this shall the iniquity of Jacob be forgiven, and this is all the fruit of taking away his sin: that he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, [so that] the Asherim (Mariolatry) and the sun-images (false Jesus') shall rise no more. (The Lord will cleanse His people of "another Jesus" and his mother, as the religious kingdoms of men are deserted by the righteous.) {10} For the fortified city is solitary, a habitation deserted and forsaken, like the wilderness (Rev.12:6;17:3 = seven year tribulation): there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof. {11} When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off; the women (apostate sects) shall come, and set them on fire (The false fire of the apostates' golden calf will consume those who are "broken off" of the olive tree of New Testament spiritual Israel in tribulation [Rom.11:20-22]); for it is a people of no understanding: therefore he that made them will not have compassion upon them, and he that formed them will show them no favor.

{Isa.2:6} For thou hast forsaken thy people the house of Jacob, because they are filled [with customs] from the east, and [are] soothsayers like the Philistines, and they strike hands with the children of foreigners. (One of the eastern spirits imparted in these revivals and those who have come from them is divination or false prophecy.) {Eze.19:10} Thy mother (Israel, a type of the church) was like a vine, in thy blood, planted by the waters: it was fruitful and full of branches by reason of many waters. {11} And it had strong rods for the sceptres of them that bare rule, and their stature was exalted among the thick boughs, and they were seen in their height with the multitude of their branches. (The once glorious church ruled over her enemies but now there is a great falling away to the enemy.) {12} But it was plucked up in fury, it was cast down to the ground, and the east wind (spirits) dried up its fruit: its strong rods were broken off and withered; the fire consumed them. (The apostates among them have had their fruit burned up by the false fire of the eastern spirits.) {13} And now it is planted in the wilderness, in a dry and thirsty land. {14} And fire is gone out of the rods of its branches, it hath devoured its fruit, so that there is in it no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a lamentation, and shall be for a lamentation. (Because of their sins they cannot stand before these spirits.) Because of his rebellion against God, Jonah was smitten of the eastern spirits by Him and fainted, wanting to die. {Jonah 4:8} And it came to pass, when the sun arose, that God prepared a sultry east wind (spirits); and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and requested for himself that he might die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live. The U.S. is destroyed by spirits of Eastern religions As a type of the U.S. and her apostate Christians, Babylon, who was the "great eagle" in Ezekiel 17, made a covenant with the people of God who had rebelled against God's covenant [verse19]. For this they were withered with the eastern spirits. {Eze.17:10} Yea, behold, being planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly wither, when the east wind (spirits) toucheth it? it shall wither in the beds where it grew. A lamentation was spoken over Tyre, as a type of the U.S., who is broken and sunk in the heart of the seas by Eastern spirits. We are not just speaking of the moon god of Islam but that which is infecting the spiritual strength of the U.S., its "spirit-filled" Christians. {Eze.27:25} The ships of Tarshish were thy caravans for thy merchandise: and thou wast replenished, and made very glorious in the heart of the seas. {26} Thy rowers have brought thee into great waters: the east wind (spirits) hath broken thee in the heart of the seas. {27} Thy riches, and thy wares, thy merchandise, thy mariners, and thy pilots, thy calkers, and the dealers in thy merchandise, and all thy men of war, that are in thee, with all thy company which is in the midst of thee, shall fall into the heart of the seas in the day of thy ruin. Notice that what was spoken of Tyre are almost quotes of what was spoken of Babylon in Revelation 18 and the rest of Ezekiel 27 is even more so.

Tyre is another type of Babylonish U.S. Tyre was compared to Babylon, the great eagle at the head of the nations, in its destruction. (Isa.23:1) The burden of Tyre. Howl, ye ships of Tarshish; for it is laid waste, so that there is no house, no entering in. (13) Behold, the land of the Chaldeans: this people was not; the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in the wilderness; they set up their towers; they overthrew the palaces thereof; they made it a ruin. (14) Howl, ye ships of Tarshish; for your stronghold is laid waste. The parallels between Tyre, Babylon and the U.S. are too numerous to mention. All are the dominant, extremely rich, centers of trade in their time. The two common texts that speak of the fall of Satan depict him ruling the world as the king of Tyre (Ezk.28:12-17) and the king of Babylon (Isa.14:4,1215). Now I ask you, who rules Babylonish U.S. as the head of the nations? Satan is the god of this world. Tyre is said to be in the heart of the seas (Ezk.27:4,27). Natural Tyre was in the Mediterranean sea (singular) next to the coast, not in the heart. Spiritual Tyre, the U.S., is in the heart of the seas (plural). Tyre was occupied by Christian Crusaders in 1124 A.D. and later conquered by Muslims in 1291 A.D., and so it will be with the U.S. Both are isles north and west of Israel, which were thought impregnable due to their naval power and position in the sea. Tyre imposed her dominance by her merchant ships of Tarshish. The U.S. has imposed her dominance by the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof (Ezk.38:13). Britains national symbol is the lion, and her English-speaking young lions are, of course, the U.S., Canada and Australia, along with the other commonwealth nations. As Alexander the Great conquered Tyre with 120 warships, so the prophets have foretold that Russia and the U.N. would conquer the U.S. with a great armada of warships. Sidon was the center of the Phoenician Empire and colonized Tyre (Isa.23:2,12), just as Britain was the center of the British Empire and colonized the U.S. Geographically, Tyre is south and west of Sidon, just as the U.S. is south and west of Britain. Just as Sidon was superseded in world dominance by Tyre, its offspring, so was Britain by the U.S., its offspring. Compare Gods statement about Babylon (For thus saith the Lord, After seventy (seven) years are accomplished for Babylon, I will visit you (Jer.29:10)) with His statement about Tyre (And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy (seven) years, that the Lord will visit Tyre (Isa.23:17).) Notice that both Babylon and Tyre were visited after 70 years by the Lord, just as the U.S. will be after seven years, and she shall return to her hire, and shall play the harlot with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth (Isa.23:17). Also, both Babylon and Tyre were harlots having relations with all the kingdoms of the world, clearly making them a type of end-time Babylonish U.S. All three are destroyed for their harlotry. The U.S. has, as a harlot, received the foreign seed and spirits of the nations for which God will sink her. The effects of the false anointing from these revivals is not experienced at first. This anointing is like a Trojan horse -- it was thought to be a gift from God but the enemy is hidden inside, waiting for darkness to come out and open the doors for more invading demons to conquer the

unsuspecting. If you have become convinced that something is wrong with this movement and your experience you can be free. Jesus paid for this: {Col.1:13} who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love... Many spirits can eventually invade, including Kundalini, Hindu, Emma-O, Buddhism, Jezebel, Divination, Witchcraft, Pride, Lust, Greed, Self Will, etc., and the spirits of the sins of our youth before we knew the Lord. I suggest you repent of known sin and any unforgiveness; that you renounce any cooperation in the revivals or persons from them who laid hands on you. Gather true Spirit-filled friends around you and command these spirits and any others you all discern to go in Jesus' Name. He is faithful to deliver. Then find some holy associations. Jezebel Invasion from the East

Kundalini Awakening Received Through Toronto

L. Thompson Perhaps some thoughts shared by someone who has actually come away from the "Toronto" movement after being "lock, stock & barrel" into it would help others who are saying to themselves, "These people who are so negative about this have not experienced it first-hand." We live in Southern California and were part of the mainstream Vineyard church here, and also a smaller vineyard church closer to us. My husband and I were desperate for God and at the end of everything in our lives when we came to the local vineyard. We soon heard about renewal meetings in Anaheim and began attending twice a week. My first impression was that these folks were a bit bizarre, but being, as I said, quite desperate for God to intervene in our lives, we "stuck around." We were at the "Let the Fire Fall" conference in 1994 when John Wimber had John Arnot came and preached at the conference. I witnessed and was part of all the manifestations that have been described. I must say that it had been so long since I had "felt" anything, emotional or otherwise, toward the Lord that, even though the outward looked so weird, my hunger kept me returning. The vineyard was holding renewal meetings twice a week led by one of their pastors who had been to Toronto personally. We had to drive an hour one way to attend but did so usually for both meetings. The pastor would teach for a short period and we would move chairs away for ministry time. After attending renewal meetings for a couple months I began to notice some things that the pastor was saying did not make sense to me. He began to tell us that he did not want to "encourage" outward manifestations. The jerking, roaring, etc. Yet when ministry time came he would call forward the people who were on the outside "manifesting" the strongest. The ones that could hardly walk were shaking so hard; those were the ones who were called to the front and ministered to in front of us all. This happened while I was there several times. Well, I can tell you first-hand what this did to my family and people that I knew. People began to seek the manifestations. At first I was one of the ones who would usually fall

and just weep unstoppable tears. I believe the Lord did give me repentance, as my life had been so miserable. The tears came and cleansing did happen. But as the pastor kept calling those forward who were jerking and shaking and wanting "more" I began to seek, unwittingly, what I believe now were "other gods" -- the gods of experience, for example. Not that God can't give experiences that are wonderful but each has to be measured by His Word. There was very little of this at the renewal meetings. I will tell you I personally had people lay hands and pray for me from the large ministry team of Anaheim. I was "open" to all of it. In the end, my simple joy of feeling His cleansing presence became a hunger for the next big "wow." I was shaken, baked, drunk, laughed till I could not move. Roared, swooned, labored as in childbirth, etc. For me, until the end of this (which I'll explain later), these experiences were wonderful. I felt new, alive; but I was not being honest with myself at how these things were taking the place of my relationship with God. People were getting saved; although not the throngs I kept hearing about in other places, there were healings. I must say at this point that during all the time I attended renewal meetings regularly for over a year, not once did a person challenge any manifestation or spirit according to the scripture. I personally received training to be on the large ministry team at our local vineyard (which used the teaching materials from the Anaheim Vineyard). I was never advised to "test the spirits" according to scripture. Let's be honest here. When someone is frozen to the ground, the only breath coming is between loud cries, roars, whatever; that seems like it would be a good time to challenge the spirit of this... I never saw it done or even heard of it done, even as I began to minister to others as part of the team. To us, some manifestations were obviously demonic and we used "discernment" to detect and then pray for deliverance; these manifestations being nausea, vomiting, obvious torment, etc. When I myself was roaring, laughing, shaking or crying, no one ever challenged any of it. I was not in any kind of torment while experiencing these manifestations; it was great. I never saw anyone else appear to experience torment while experiencing these things. So I blundered on, ignoring scripture. Then I attended a prophetic conference at Mott Auditorium, the Vineyard of Pasadena. I did notice that things were "cranked up" a bit more than usual but you have to remember I was used to all this and it was normal to me. During the ministry time one of the speakers (from Kansas City) began to "shoot arrows in the spirit" at us. He made the sound of an arrow shooting -- "whoosh!" -- as he told us to receive what God's angels had for us. He said, "It's ok to paint a target for where you want the arrow to hit you." Myself, having suffered from serious childhood hurts, began to place my hand on my heart and cry out to God. Suddenly I could hardly stand, but this was not the drunk kind of swoon I had experienced before; this was painful. I ached all over, as if I was coming apart inside. I wanted to sit down and catch my breath but at that very moment the speaker called out "Take it," so I forced myself to stand upright. A feeling of anguish came over me that was awful and indescribable. After the prayer time was over I felt as if I could move and walk about but the thought came to me to go over in between the chairs and just lay down for a while. I questioned my own motives for this, as the conference was over and my family was waiting for me to go home. I went in between the chairs and laid face down on the cold floor. Soon I was frozen to the floor. I could not have gotten up if I had wanted to. I could not speak, as people are accustomed to

this -- as I also had been accustomed to this. Outwardly it seemed like just another person "slain in the spirit" but inwardly I felt different; there was a great element of fear involved this time. I began to really want to get up but could not. After some time I was able to move and get up to go home. The next 10 days were so incredibly bizarre I have difficulty describing what happened. I will say that there were some very bizarre "impulses" being hurled at my spirit, as to the like I had never experienced. I began to wonder if someone had put speed into my drinking water during the conference, as I could not sleep. This was not the night watches of the Lord during the sleeplessness; it was fearful and oppressive. Part of the reason I had embraced this movement was the seeming knowledge of the prophetic, now my gifting seemed to turn on me as I experienced terrifying feelings and apparitions. During this time the Lord brought a leader to us who was not into the Toronto movement but was a very prophetic person. I was desperate, as even the leaders we had been involved with abandoned us. The vineyard pastor from the renewal meetings was just "too busy" and the local vineyard pastor was upset at us for spending too much time in Anaheim, so he basically had no time for us either. I mean my husband was begging for help. I was flipping out, running all over the desert, and they have no time? I will say God is faithful. The servant he sent us was a true shepherd. He told me I had a run-in with Kundalini spiritism. THIS MAN HAD NOT EVEN HEARD OF THE TORONTO MOVEMENT. Yes, that is true; there are people whom God is using who do not even know about TORONTO. He told me, "Someone has opened up a 'third eye in you for sight into the demonic spirit realm.' This servant of God prayed the blood of Jesus over me and had some serious prayer and warfare in my behalf. I was delivered from those tormenting spirits by the blood of the Lord Jesus but my healing and restoration has been a matter of walking with Him. I was so trapped in the instant fix mode from the renewal that I could never have seen the value in the daily walk with the Lord. What frightens me about the Toronto movement is that these people, as I was, are sincerely deceived. The spiritual realm is the realm of warfare. How can we approach this without the covering of His Word, His battle plan? How can we ignore what He has told us in scripture and glorify experience or ANYTHING above His name and what He has given us in Him? Now folks, be honest. Continually bringing people on stage or onto the alter, wildly manifesting, does distract from thinking about the Lord Jesus; it's, 'Wow, look at that' and 'Wow, feel this... feel, feel, feel.' I must testify to His protection, in spite of being involved in this, as there were several situations during those 10 days I could easily have died. Doing over 90 mph on the freeways, weaving in and out of traffic is just one example. I also testify to the protection of much more than my body. He has also redeemed my spirit from what was a plot to kill it. I believe God did see our hearts and that we were sincere in our search for Him but we definitely fell into the wrong place. Perhaps if anyone is reading this who is part of a church that is embracing the Toronto movement, I beg of you to go to the Word and do not ignore what He is saying to you through His word. 1 John says to test the spirits to see if they are of God; you are not insulting God to do this. He says to do it.

It was a breath of fresh air for me to hear there were prophetic people who were not swallowing everything in the Toronto river. I am glad myself and my family were plucked out before drowning there.

Warning About Revival Videos

by Josef Urban I just want to share a warning with you all about watching the videos of this thing on the Internet and of watching the videos of those things related to it. Also of listening to the worship music. Even of videos and music and such from people associated with this that are of the same spirit. I know a brother who was having serious spiritual attacks the day after he watched a video of the revival and spoke against this, and they persisted, until he prayed and broke the demonic curses and they left instantly. Also, last night a dark presence came upon my house after watching a video. As soon as we prayed, it went away. And then I knew there was truly something there. A brother here also had the same thing happen to him last night after watching these videos. He said a dark presence and a wicked spirit entered his house and he and his wife both discerned it and commanded it out and it left and that he too has been warned not to watch these things any more. There is something really powerful at work here and it's something that the Word of Faith preachers haven't even fully tapped into. Saints, be careful of these videos. I have personally had my severe warning from the Lord not to watch them anymore, and these other two brothers have also. There is more than just words in conflict here; this is a conflict of spirits. So be warned, and be covered with the blood of Jesus! If you must watch them for the purpose of discernment, and for speaking against it specifically as is profitable for the souls of men, then be covering yourself in prayer for protection as you do. And when you're done, break all curses over you and command any evil spirit to depart from your midst! For those of you who have been watching it, and have embraced it and are accepting everything that comes from this move and from Todd Bentley, I believe you are potentially in serious trouble and you really need to seek the Lord to open your eyes and renounce everything that is not directly from the Spirit of God. Matt replies: Just chiming in to say I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've only watched 6 minutes of one video and had to turn it off. I felt the Holy Spirit warn me not to ever watch again. His words to me were, "Don't allow this into your home." After some prayer, I know this is truly a Word from the Lord.

Click here for an audio teaching on this subject.

Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival

In an effort to bring additional information regarding Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival, we have included here a compilation by Hannah Weiss. Due to the fact that we take the impartations of demons very seriously, parts of this article were left out. We must guard our hearts and ask for what the Lord wants us to have ONLY, thereby refusing anything from Satan. We must be diligent in these times and ask that our Heavenly Father keep us from deception and fill us with only His Holy Spirit. Following the article from Ms. Weiss there is also included a prophecy/vision from Stanley Frodsham from 1965. To read the entire article from Ms. Weiss, click here. - Some Research Bits for Those With Questions - facts & scriptures, no editorials compiled by Hannah Weiss, 4/june/08 (Restorers of Zion, Israel) www.restorersofzion.org Bit No. 1: A firsthand look at what Todd Bentley does (an example that predates Lakeland by 4 years) Sending the 'fire' to Australia and Finland - "Todd Bentley Impartation (labeled as being from a "Toronto conference" in 2004) We do not recommend that these video clips be viewed; they contain many disturbing and potentially dangerous words and even the possibility of imparting demons. Should you decide to watch these videos, viewers are advised to cover themselves with the blood of Jesus and to actively refuse to receive anything NOT of God; in other words pray, pray, pray! An analysis of this video clip, especially the tongues.

Q: Public utterance in tongues -- is it supposed to actually mean something? A: According to Paul, yes, and it's assumed to be prophetic.

In fact, before Todd gave these utterances, he actually prayed that he would prophesy (see clip, starting at the 10 sec mark) "There are perhaps a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning." (I Cor.14:10) "If I come to you speaking in tongues, what shall I profit you, unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching?" (I Cor.14:6) "Let all things be done for edification.... If there is no interpreter, let him [who speaks in a tongue] keep silent." (I Cor.14:26, 28) Q: Is it necessary to understand a prophecy given in tongues? A: According to Paul, yes -- and not just to understand it, but also to test it. "If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and let one interpret." (I Cor.14:27) "And let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.... and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; for G-d is not a God of confusion but of peace..." (I Cor.14:29, 32-33)

Q: Can Todd Bentley's tongue actually be understood? A: Yes, because it is clear and deliberate. "Unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken?" (I Cor.14:9) So it CAN "be known what is spoken", IF we can pinpoint what language it is. NOTE: many of the words in this clip, and other words Todd Bentley is known to shout out when he lays hands on people, can be found in a Sanskrit dictionary. Q: Why Sanskrit? What made you even think of looking in a Sanskrit dictionary? A: Sanskrit is the holy tongue of Hinduism, and it's the language used in "giving Shaktipat".... which is what Todd Bentley appears to be doing in his "impartations." See the comparison later.

Q: So, assuming the words are Sanskrit, what is he saying over these people? A: Here is a list, based on the above clip. I could not catch everything - these were the clearest. - The word in "quotes" is the phonetic word on the clip, in the order they occur in the video. You can check my accuracy by listening to the clip yourself. - The word in (parentheses) is the phonetic word in the Sanskrit dictionaries on-line. (Sanskrit is a language with its own script, so this is the closest we can get to the sound of the real word.) - Then there is the definition, followed by the online source so you can see for yourself (use the phonetic spelling to look it up). Pronounced over Australian believers: Start at mark 5:00 on the timer. 1. "boomba" was pronounced over 3 (bhumba) - a holy vessel - specifically a Buddhist ritual water pot source: http://www.thethankahouse.com/ritual.html 2. "sapa" was pronounced over 3 (sa'apa) - by the curse of / a curse sources: http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sapa http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html 3. "suba" (subha) - fair (ie, beautiful woman) / useful source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html 4. "seba" pronounced with extra force and stuttering - "sebababababa!" (possibly sevaa) - service source: http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-04-11/article/29723 This is the only one followed by an interpretation: "crusades! stadiums filled... like in the days of Kathryn Kuhlman..." [for info on Kathryn Kuhlman, go to: 5. "fire, fire, fire" - see comments on kundalini fire in Bit No. 2 Pronounced over Finnish believers: (mark 7:15)

6. "shuba" (Shubha, sometimes subha) - auspicious / good / a blessing source: http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/subha/id/143297 7. "shobbaba" - ?? - "shobha" is Sanskrit for "brilliant one". He may be stuttering on this word, or it may a form of "shobha" (for example, the plural is a class of gods) source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html 8. "bakusta" - ?? - could not find any Sanskrit translation, but the word is clear. "Bakusta" does mean something in Finnish (someone from Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan) 9. bam-bam" - (BhaMBhaM) - to sodomize source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html (NOTE: This sounds far-fetched and even slanderous --- until you notice that within seconds, a girl starts moving like she is being ravished from behind. Todd returns to her, says "it's on you right now..." and stands in front of her prophesying. See mark 7:35.) 10. "fire, fire, fire" - see comments on kundalini "fire" in Bit No. 2. 11. "sheeka" (zikhaa) - flame source: http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&tinput=sheeka&... 12. "shuba -shuba -shuba" (see 6 above) After he is finished, he says, "alright, that was fun." Q: Couldn't all this be just a weird coincidence? A: That's for you to judge - keep reading. Bit No. 2: About SHAKTIPAT (Hindu impartation ceremony) Summary: 1. "Shaktipat" is Sanskrit for "descent of grace." That "grace" is released by "kundalini" (defined in Hinduism as "an intelligent force" coiled like a snake at the base of the spine, related to the god Shiva).

"Diksha" is "initiation" into a new path of enlightenment, which is usually the occasion for receiving Shaktipat. 2. Shaktipat is "given" by a guru, someone possessing divine powers to trigger initiation and unlock the kundalini force. It can be given any of the following ways: - by a touch (usually on the "third eye" - the forehead - or one of the "chakras" - top of head, throat, chest, solar plexis, base of spine). - by a specially chosen word (spoken in Sanskrit) - by a deep look into the eyes - by blowing on someone - by "remote" (out of body visitations from the guru) - and these days, it can be done electronically (by following instructions while watching a video) 3. Shaktipat is considered "contagious" - it can spread through a crowd as the guru passes, it can be carried and passed by touch from one disciple to another, it can be passed by objects the guru has touched, or it can be sent by "remote" through reproduced videos, trance-inducing music, etc. 4. For Shaktipat to be "received", it doesn't require conscious cooperation or agreement, only "surrender" to the influence. Kundalini is understood to take over the one receiving this experience. 5. The evidence of receiving Shaktipat is the appearance of "kriyas" - involuntary jerking, falling, laughing and/or shaking. Some have experienced retching and gagging. Other evidences known to happen, and considered normal: - visions - animal or other inarticulate noises - being healed of diseases - intense positive emotions that leave them incoherent - spontaneous yoga postures (especially bowing to the floor) - spontaneous speaking in tongues (usually Sanskrit)

Someone who has their kundalini awakened is regarded as "on fire," and to spread that awakening is to "ignite" others. The fire (called "tummo") is regarded as the source of healings. Shaktipat is admitted by Hindus to be potentially harmful. Kundalini is considered a very powerful force, and if it is not properly "controlled" it can cause sickness, madness or death. Shiva (sometimes also called "Siva") is the god of destruction and is worshiped from fear. -----------------------------------------------------------Some documentation: -----------------------------------------------------------1. About Shaktipat - from "Siddha Mahayoga FAQ" http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/SiddhaMahayoga/id/34752 What is shaktipat? ''Shakti'' is another word for kundalini and ''pat'' means to descend. Shaktipat is a method by which an individual's kundalini is awakened by the direct intervention of a guru. There are several varieties of shaktipat depending on the facility of the guru and the receptiveness of the disciple. There are also a variety of mechanisms for conveying shaktipat. These include: by glance, by word or mantra, by touch or simply by intention. Who can give shaktipat? ...in theory ''anyone on fire'' can give shaktipat, i.e. anyone who's kundalini is already awakened. Can one receive shaktipat just by being in the presence of those with awakened shakti? There is no doubt that shakti is contagious. The mere presence of a single being whose shakti is strongly active can awaken the shakti of those around him. Similarly being in the presence of many people whose shakti is awakened to some degree can awaken one's own shakti. The unique perspective of Siddha Mahayoga is that because kundalini is an intelligent force it will, upon awakening, naturally direct the practice of the student. All that is required is that the student completely surrender to this force. As a result of kundalini's unfoldment spontaneous purifying movements, called kriyas will occur.

What are kriyas? Kriyas, literally ''activities'', are spontaneous movements that occur after kundalini awakening. These include bodily activities such as trembling, shaking and spontaneous yoga postures; vocal activities such as yelling, or spontaneous chanting and mental activities such as visions. These kriyas eliminate the blocks to kundalini rising within the spine or central channel. ------------------------------------------------------------2. About Kriyas - http://kundalini-teacher.com/symptoms/kriyas.php "Most kriyas are simple tremors or twitches as tension held in the body, releases. However, they can be quite complex movements, breathing patterns, (pranayama) vocalizations, visions... That is why people who may never have studied Hatha Yoga, find their bodies wanting to assume Yoga postures, or why people who do not speak a foreign language may find themselves spontaneously chanting in Sanskrit." -------------------------------------------------3. About the 'fire' of healing [from the above site]: Tummo Fire is Tibetan, also known as gtummo, the inner fire. In practice, you use the tummo fire much the same as Reiki or therapeutic touch, but no drawing symbols. This type of tummo is specific to the process of healing and clearing the emotional blockages of karma, enhancing and smoothing the process of Kundalini, and paving the road to enlightenment.Tummo initiation is a very powerful type of shaktipat that can smooth and accelerate the process in a very safe and easy way. Tummo is the clear light, heat that burns away the emotional blockages, etc. that are at the root of illness. Tummo fire is related to Kundalini heat. It is based in the solar plexus, but can show up anywhere in the body, burning off karma. When the fire is active, it reduces the need for emotional release. Tummo fire can also be transmitted by remote. At the end of the initiation, the power is put under the guidance of your unconscious/spirit, which directs it to where it needs to be. It can also be directed

consciously.

Bit No. 3: "Test the Spirits" - Comparing Hindu and Bentley practices side by side A guru blowing on his disciple to give him Shaktipat compare with... Todd Bentley blowing on 3 people to give them "the fire" (watch starting at mark 5:38, then again at 7:53) ------------------------------------------------------Some video examples of Hindu disciples giving and receiving impartations: 1- A short clip of kundalini "Kriya" effects in India 2- A clip of a Hindu disciple right after a "diksha" (impartation of Shaktipat) 3- A guru giving "shaktipat", where people fall backwards compare with... Some clips showing Todd Bentley's touch and similar results 1- http://youtube.com/watch?v=fFp1tG9z7SM&feature=related (NOTE: This is the one we analyzed for prophecy - watch again the reactions of those he touches, starting at mark 5:00. Also consider that he rejects the idea of stand-ins who are native Australians or Finns with a spiritual burden for his/her country - he insists they must be physically going to the targeted countries.) 2- http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/more-slam-bam-movesfrom-todd-bentley-on-lakeland-florida-outpouring-stage/#comment-7972 (NOTE: The poster who uploaded this clip felt that Todd was doing this "for show." From my research, it is likely he was not in control of himself. Notice that Todd begins to have Kriyas a while before he hits the German man with his knee - as explained above in Bit No.2, Kriyas are involuntary movements when kundalini takes over) 3- http://battle4truth.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/latest-video-from-florida-revival-toddbentley/

(NOTE: This is very recent - last week - and is apparently a new level of spiritual "intoxication." Todd's comment: "It hasn't been like this on the platform before - not like this!" What is new here: Todd's self-control has disintegrated, and his body is manifesting Kriyas almost continually. Also it's spreading to his assistants. And all reverence for G-d is gone, replaced by "come and get some!" in a mocking, drunken tone. ----------------------------------------------------------The testimony of an Australian girl who received "Diksha" from a guru She gets healed.... sees "Jesus"... has spiritual visits from her guru for further healing.... feels peace... sees orbs of light. compare with... 1- The testimony of an American girl who sought the Lord at Todd Bentley's conference (2005) Talk about "orbs of light"...Todd Bentley unable to read from his Bible - every time he tried, he became "drunk" or incoherent or could not stop laughing. 2- Todd's own account of spiritual (out of body) visits to Australia (see video clip from Bit No. 1, starting mark 1:00) and also Europe (starting mark 5:50). He tells of a woman in England who claims he "visited" her and healed her (mark 8:20), and of similar cases in Canada (starting mark 8:40). --------------------------------------------------------------------A pause for some relevant questions: Q: Isn't it true that Satan just copies G-d's holy things? Why should we throw out a move of G-d just because there are similar "copycat" things on the other side? A: There are some things defined in Scripture as ORIGINATING on Satan's side, and we are commanded to "not do likewise." Prominent among those forbidden things are occult practices and ways of worship: "...do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?' You shall not behave thus toward the L-rd your God..."(Deut.12:30-31).

Q: Can't we just sift out the junk and keep what is truly from G-d? The scripture does say, "Do not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good" (I Thess.5:19-21). A: Yes, and it goes on to say, "Abstain from every form of evil." (v.22). This applies particularly to the things used by idol worshipers, where we are forbidden to salvage even the raw gold and silver that were originally part of an idol (Deut.7:25). Regarding "prophetic utterances," when we "examine everything carefully" that is coming from Todd Bentley, how much is there left "to hold fast to"? One immediate example: Todd predicted (Bit No.1 video, starting at mark 4:30) "a great move of G-d" with "hundreds of ministries with power, miracles, signs and wonders" that would carry revival to Indonesia, Malaysia and Southeast Asia. He gave a timetable: "in the next 12 to 14 months." That was said in July 2004. Search on the Internet for some report that a "revival" of that magnitude came to (or went out from) any of those countries in 2005... or 2006... or 2007. If it didn't happen, scripture says we are not to take him seriously as a prophet (Deut.18:22). A second example: Todd prophesied at that time about seeing "a tidal wave" hitting Malaysia. Here is the direct quote: "I saw an open vision of a tidal wave of revival hitting Malaysia. I'm telling you it's coming within the next 12 to 14 months. Things are about to break out in Malaysia... our team is going there in December." (see the video, starting mark 4:52 ). On December 26, 2004, a LITERAL tidal wave hit Malaysia. At the Fresh Fire Prophetic Conference in April 2005, his prophecy was revised accordingly, as a form of "judgment." "Referring to a prophetic word he delivered in July, 2004 about a tsunami wave hitting S.E. Asia, Todd said that the church was now entering a season in which judgment would continue to hit the earth." Q: How could anyone do real miracles in the Lord's name, and the Lord would not be behind it? Yeshua said we can't gather good fruit from a bad tree. (Matt.7:18) A: Right after Yeshua's teaching about knowing them by their fruits (and He was speaking about prophets - see v.15), He warns us of "MANY" who will prophesy in His name and "perform many miracles" as well (v.22-23).

Our problem is that we have redefined "good fruit" as "results," when He had already defined it as "doing the will of My Father" (v.21). We have heard "these words" of Yeshua and not acted on them (see v.26), and we are about to see a major collapse throughout the Lord's Body (v.27). Bit No. 4: Todd Bentley's tattoos There are a lot of discussions about what they are and what they mean, but I am skipping that part, because: 1- Tattoos of any kind are questionable for believers. For those who don't feel bound by Torah commands, there is the NT teaching that our bodies are Temples of G-d and we are not our own. For Israelis and Jews, there is the added connection of the Nazi practice of tattooing both Jews and Aryans, which is disturbing. 2- Trying to decipher and interpret the tattoos is inconclusive, and this has distracted many people, causing them to miss the much clearer problem of his occult practices and false prophecies. The only part I will address here is the evidence that Todd Bentley did have these tattoos and piercings done after beginning his revival ministry': Compare this video of him preaching in Toronto. Take a second look also at the video from Bit No.1.

Bit No. 5: Todd Bentley's teachings compared with the dark side of Kabbalah See connections to the occultic "tree of life," the number 10, angelic powers, serpent enlightenment, Samael (the rabbinic name for AntiChrist and/or the Beast). Hear Lakeland pastor Stephen Strader describe the "10 anointings" (one of which is debt elimination). Bit No. 6: Todd Bentley's spirit guides "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from G-d, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (I John 4:1) "Emma" / "Emma'O"

Bentley's firsthand testimony (from http://www.etpv.org/2003/angho.html) EMMA, ANGEL OF THE PROPHETIC Now let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me about this angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: "Todd, have you ever seen the angel by the name of Emma?" He asked me as if he expected that this angel was appearing to me. Surprised, I said, "Bob, who is Emma?" He told me that Emma was the angel that helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord said, "Here's Emma." I'm not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost like Kathryn Khulman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young-about 22 years old-but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life. She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began putting gold dust on people. "God, what is happening?" I asked. The Lord answered: "She is releasing the gold, which is both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that I am bringing into this church. I want you to prophecy that Emma showed up in this service-the same angel that appeared in Kansas city-as a sign that I am endorsing and releasing a prophetic spirit in the church." See, when angels come, they always come for a reason; we need to actually ask God what the purpose is. Within three weeks of that visitation, the church had given me the biggest offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands! Even though the entire community consisted of only three thousand people, weeks after I left the church the pastor testified that the church offerings had either doubled or tripled. During this visitation the pastor's wife (it was an AOG church) got totally whacked by the Holy Ghost- she began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful prophetic spirit came on her. Also, as this prophetic anointing came on her, she started getting phone numbers of complete strangers and calling them up on the telephone and prophesying over them. She would tell them that God gave her their telephone number and then would give them words of knowledge. Complete strangers. Then angels started showing up in the church.

I believe Emma released a financial and prophetic anointing in that place. That was the first angel that I have ever seen in the form of a woman. Some angels I've seen seemed like they were neither male nor female. However, Emma appeared as a woman who was like a Deborah, like a mother in Zion. When she came, she began to mentor, nurture and opened up a prophetic well. The people in the church began having trances and visions and the pastor began getting words of knowledge and moving in healing. That congregation also saw more financial breakthrough than they had ever seen before. ----------------------------------------------------------Compare with this information on Hindu gods [From Answers.com]: Emma-O, derived from the Sanskrit Yama (see Yama), is the Japanese Buddhist Lord of Jigoku, or Hell (see Jigoku). Emma judges souls and places them in hells appropriate to their crimes. In this context there are a total of eight hells. These have been described by people who were for one reason or another released from punishment. The hells are a popular subject for Japanese scrolls. Emmas primary enemy is Jiz (see Jiz), always a supporter of the dead souls against Emma and usually the victor over his dark adversary. As Jizs popularity has grown and Emmas diminished, Emma has become a demon. ...and compare with this note [From Lakeland Revival: Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, and some things to consider, http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/lakelandrevival-todd-bentley-bob-jones-and-some-things-to-consider/ "While researching this revival today, and the programs being aired at GODTV, it was noted by at least 2 people who watched a recent program that this Angel was also being referred to by Bentley as not only Emma but Emma-O on occasion." Bentley changes angelic partners There are reports that he has removed the above testimony about Emma from his site. Apparently other controversial articles are disappearing... and sometimes reappearing with different URLs. [see Todd Bentley - strange manifestations on Fresh Fire website! - http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/todd-bentley-emmamove-over-sundar-singh-is-in-the-house/] There is a report that Bentley has adopted a newer, stronger, scarier (and more manly) angel named "Angel of the Lord", who releases wealth too. See the CBN interview with Lakeland pastor Stephen Strader (http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/370341.aspx) Other angels being discussed off and on: "Promise" "Winds of Change" "Flame"

Bit No. 7: Todd Bentley's Spiritual Mentors and Supporters (a partial list, but digging below the surface to test these prophets as well) TODD BENTLEY'S MENTORS Bob Jones: Kansas City prophetic ministry, and throughout the 1980s considered one of their most gifted prophets. He is credited with predicting the "outbreak" of the 1994 Toronto "blessing", ten years earlier. [see http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/prophey-bob-jones-role-intoronto-blessing-brownsville-lakeland-what-comes-next-civil-war-in-the-church/] In 2003, Jones introduced Todd Bentley to "Emma", who they both say had fueled the Kansas City 'revival' as well. (see Bit No.6 above for Emma, see below for KC). He has gone on record proclaiming Bentley's ministry as a "third wave" of revival. Jones was removed from his prophetic post in 1991 after admitting to sexual misconduct. Because of Jones national visibility and ministry, the National Board for the Association of Vineyard Churches in Anaheim, led by John R. Wimber, issued a letter Tuesday to all of its churches explaining the incident. The sins for which Bob has been removed from ministry include using his gifts to manipulate people for his personal desires, sexual misconduct, rebelling against pastoral authority, slandering leaders and the promotion of bitterness within the body of Christ, the letter stated. [snipped] The church is seeking private counseling for Jones, his wife and the two women, said Gulliksen, who will personally oversee the counseling. Bob will not be free to minister until he is fully recovered, Gulliksen said. Its not like Jimmy Swaggert who overnight said, Now Ive sinned and I am back in charge. This is the 12th incident with similar accusations against a Vineyard church leader since 1974 when Gulliksen and his wife founded the church in Los Angeles, Gulliksen said. All 12 leaders were removed and counseling was provided, and frequently paid for, by the church for the leaders and the victims, he said. After years of counseling, six of those 12 have returned to ministry positions of lesser standing. 1991 The Olathe Daily News. November 13, 1991, p. 3A ------------------------------------------------------------------

The latest on Bob Jones: struck with kidney failure on Dec. 11, 2007. At first they were claiming a complete and miraculous healing from G-d. More recently the miracle has been described differently: [from http://www.bobjones.org/index.cfm ] (May 6, 08) "Our last visit to the kidney doctor was a great success. Bobs kidney function continues to improve; the creatinine level dropped to 3.1 so the doctor removed the perm-cath from his chest last Wednesday. We still need to have a fistula placed in his arm in the event he should need dialysis in the future. However, we believe the Lord gave us a miracle and will continue to heal the kidneys and totally restore his health. He is gaining strength daily. We must be good stewards of the miracle He gave us." ----------------------------------------------------------------------Paul Cain: Kansas City's "chief prophet," promoted by them as very gifted in words of knowledge, and revered as a spiritual "father" to some of the movement's current prophetic leaders. Cain joined Todd Bentley's Lakeland revival in May 2008. (from a blogger's post at the Lakeland Church site, May 4, 08) Last night, amid the miracles of God and healings, Todd Bentley announced that prophet Paul Cain was coming to Lakeland, the first night at Tiger Town Stadium, but also possibly coming to The Lakeland Center as well. Some highlights of who prophet Paul Cain is: At the age of 17, Paul began to hold citywide salvation and healing campaigns in tents, civic auditoriums and churches where supernatural and documented healings took place. He became one of many revivalists during the Healing Revival which lasted from 1947 to 1958. During the great healing revival, Pauls ministry reached international proportions. In 1954, his manager purchased the worlds largest gospel tent from Jack Coe, having a capacity to hold 8,000 people. Paul toured the country, filling it with thousands wherever he went.

Prophet Paul Cain runs with other powerful men of God such as Oral Roberts, William Branham, O.L. Jaggers, A.A. Allen, T.L. Osborn, Jack Coe, and Franklin Hall.

Paul Cain prophesied that the day would come that American believers would fill stadiums across the land. Todd Bentley, Paul Cain, Stephen Strader of Ignited Church, and many others, believe that The Florida Revival in Lakeland, Florida, especially at Tiger Town Stadium (Joker Marchant Stadium), is the beginning of the manifestation of that vision. Expect Paul Cain tonight! Bentley honored Cain at Lakeland (13/5/08) for the above-mentioned prophecy which he had given in 1999. ----------------------------------------------------------While being hailed as a prophet, Paul Cain was living a double life as a practicing homosexual and alcoholic: [from http://www.morrnnsstrarministries.ore/oages/ special~bulleu.ns/0ct_19.html] "In February 2004, we were made aware that Paul had become an alcoholic. In April 2004, we confronted Paul with evidence that he had recently been involved in homosexual activity. Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. However, Paul has resisted this process and has continued in his sin... With our deepest regrets and sincerity, Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, Mike Bickle." Paul Cain at first denied the truth, and apologized for it in 2005: http://web.archive.org/web/20050225053035/http://www.paulcain.org/news.html "I must apologize to the body of Christ for my recent conduct. I want to correct the denials that I made earlier in reference to charges brought against me...." Two years later, this announcement was circulated: [from http://www.morningstarministries.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?id=1000013152] In light of Paul Cain's recent announcement of restoration to ministry, we have been repeatedly asked for input. First, we rejoice in God's mercy that provides anyone with total forgiveness for any sin that is repented of. However, forgiveness of our sin is not the same as being restored to public ministry. We care much about Paul's life before God and his future ministry. We believe that his future ministry could far surpass his former ministry, if he allows the full restoration process to take place. Paul originally

agreed to submit to Larry Alberts and his team in his restoration process. These men are well known and respected by many of Paul's friends in ministry. We strongly urged him not to leave Larry's care and oversight. However, he left Larry's oversight just over a year ago and moved to California to relate to a group of men that we do not know much about. Neither do we know the process that they say that Paul went through. Therefore, we cannot say with confidence that this is a genuine restoration that is according to the principles of God's Word... Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner and Jack Deere, 1/22/2007 (More about Bickle, Joyner and Deere below under KC) -----------------------------------------------------Whether Cain has now been restored from his sexual sin is a big topic for argument -and I believe it is a clever diversion. The believers are always ready to exclude someone for sexual or financial sins - and we usually miss far more dangerous spiritual problems. Consider these errors, which Cain was never asked to repent from: ---------------------------------------------1- His "new breed" doctrine (shared with fellow prophet Bob Jones), which places importance on physical bloodlines - and hails a "New World Order". [from http://watch.pair.com/rain.html] Paul Cain: "God is raising up a new standard, a new banner if you will, thats going to radically change the expression, the understanding of Christianity in our generationGod has invited us to have a role in establishing this NEW ORDER of ChristianityGod is offering to this generation something He has never offered to any other generation Beware lest OLD ORDER brethren rob you and steal this hope from you! (Vineyard Prophecy Conference, 1989) Bob Jones [speaking in G-d's name]: "I have called the best of every blood line in earth unto this generationI have elected to bring them forth in this generationTHE ELECT GENERATIONeven the bloodline of Paulof Davidof Peter, James and JohnThey will even be superior to them in heart, stature and love for meYour children will possess the spirit without measure They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before coming into the DIVINE NATURE of Jesus Christa Church that has reached the full maturity of the GODMAN! This generationis going to see the beginning of this WORLD WIDE NEW ORDER." (Vineyard Prophecy Conference, 1989) -------------------------------------------

2. His false prophecies, proclaimed and supported by Rick Joyner, for example: [from http://morningstarministries.org/Publisher/File.aspx?id=1000002736] THE MOST AMAZING AND WONDERFUL ASPECT OF THIS DREAM WAS THAT PAUL CAIN SAW THE LORD PUTTING HIS SPIRIT UPON BILL CLINTON AND CHANGING HIM INTO ANOTHER MAN, JUST AS HE DID KING SAUL IN I SAMUEL! -----------------------------------------------3. His divination abilities, which were inherited and not a spiritual gift: [from http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel19.html] David Pyches, who has authored a book extolling the Kansas City prophets, recounts the early clairvoyant talent of Paul Cain: Paul's mother, grandmother, and great grandmother had all been born with the gift of seeing. His great-grandmother would sometimes see things in broad daylight and ask her friend or family if they could see them too. If they said they could not, she would occasionally wave her hand upon them and they would immediately see the identical vision... Paul now found he was "seeing" also and would know things that were going to happen to classmates at school or were happening to absent friends. He knew simple things like who would end up with a bloody nose or who would win a race... By the age of nine "Little Brother" (as he was being affectionately referred to by adults, perhaps because it was the form of address used by the angel who spoke to him from time to time) began public preaching in a limited way.... On one occasion Mike Bickle had been complaining to his wife that he had "a bit of a sniffle" or a slight cold - something he rarely had - the phone rang, Bickle picked up the receiver and heard Paul on the line. He had heard about Paul's gift so he said by way of a joke, "Hi, Paul! You're all right today! How am I?" Immediately Paul answered him, "Why Mike, you've got a bit of a sniffle and you are all wet. Your hair is standing up on the left side of your head." (Bickle had just gotten out the shower). (Pyches, pgs. 24,26,29,30. A friend of ours from Australia was in a public meeting in which Cain was speaking. This man had just lost his wife and Cain (with no knowledge of this man) pointed to him and told him so and proceeded to name his four sons. Art Katz reported: "That man is a prophet of God"... "He lold me secrets of my heart which no man could possibly know!" (David Pyches, Some Say It Thundered, (Oliver-Nelson: Nashville, Tn.), 1991, p.81.

A publisher of a famous Charismatic magazine once harbored some doubts regarding Cain. Cain later met him and proved to him that he was indeed a prophet of God. Cain then referred to a boat owned by the publisher and preceded to tell him the numbers of his boat license after which the publisher called him truly a prophet of God. -----------------------------------------------------The latest on Paul Cain: Shortly after appearing with Todd Bentley on May 13, 08, Cain was hit with a stroke: http://www.charismamag.com/cms/news/archives/051308.php --------------------------------------------------------------------TODD BENTLEY'S ROOTS - TORONTO REVIVAL & KANSAS CITY PROPHETS The video in Bit No. 1 was in a conference under the "Toronto Revival" covering. The Vineyard logo is clearly visible on the stage. This tells us that (a) Todd is "practicing" these things and has not just "fallen into" them; and (b) Toronto Revival leaders have long supported these practices. John Wimber: head of the Toronto Vineyard "revival", responsible for proclaiming Paul Cain as a true prophet. He was one-upped by his Toronto associate Jack Deere, who called Cain and Jones the Two Witnesses of Revelation: "You see why we're excited about someone like Paul Cain or Bob Jones coming on the scene? Or others that we 'ye met... you know those two powerful witnesses in Revelation 11:3? They are prophets. He said they will prophesy for 1,260 days. He's going to end the last days just before His Son returns with a prophetic movement that will sweep the entire face of the earth and will eclipse anything we have ever seen before..." (Deere, It Sounds Like the Mother of All Battles, Vineyard Ministries International, 1990 quoted by Jewel van der Merve in her Discernment newsletter, 1991). --------------------------------------------------The latest on John Wimber: died Nov. 18, 1997, of a brain hemorrhage. http://www.worship.co.za/la/obituary.htm ----------------------------------------------------Mike Bickle: The 3rd leader of Kansas City, who originally worked with Cain and Jones. He wholeheartedly supported these men as true prophets. He was accused of covering for some of their prophecies that did not come to pass. [from http://www.christiandoctrine.net/doctrine/articles/article_00093_the_kansas_city_prophe ts_web.htm]

In 1983 Bob Jones made a 'prophecy' that there would be three months of drought. Mike Bickle said at the time, "Kansas City was known as the bread-basket of the world; it was the centre of grain farming, fanning out to a radius of five hundred miles. For the whole of June there was no rain! IT was terrible! For the whole of July there was no rain! It was terrible! No rain during the first week of August or the second or the third. It was terrible! Bob Jones said that the Lord had told him it would come on 23rd August. We had all been poised since early dawn that day, but by 1 pm there was still no rain. By six o'clock we were just resigned to wait another day when suddenly it began. And did it rain? It poured! No man could have manipulated that. It just had to be God!" ...the pastor of a charismatic church in Kansas City... Ernest Gruen, said there was no drought! The U.S. National Weather Bureau confirms that seven inches of rain fell on Kansas City in June 1983. It rained on 12 out of thirty days - almost half the month! On just one of those days, the rainfall was seven times the rainfall on 23rd August! So, the prophecy was a lie and a fake. What is far worse, is that Bickle afterward (that is, after knowing what really happened, and after knowing the prophecy to be false) claimed it to be true. A longer history of KC Prophetic Ministry -1982 - 2000, includes firsthand testimonies from former KCP associates http://www.intotruth.org/kcp/kcp-roots.html "The Kansas City Prophets Exposed" - A 233-page testimony and eyewitness accounts of abuse at KC ministries, by a Kansas City pastor, Ernie Gruen http://www.intotruth.org/kcp/kcp-gruen.html Here is an interview with Ernie Gruen, where he refutes the rumors that he had apologized to Mike Bickle for circulating the testimony against KC IHOP. http://thegreycoats.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/the-much-awaited-interview-with-erniegruen/

More firsthand testimony from Andrew Strom, formerly with the Kansas City ministry: "Why I left the Prophetic Movement" (2004) http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~revival/leaving.html -----------------------------------------------------------------TODD BENTLEY SUPPORTERS

Rick Joyner on Todd Bentley: "The History and Future of the Present Revival - Part 4" from http://www.morningstarministries.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?id=1000032410 I saw faith become a fist that punched a hole through an overcast of clouds. This was the demonic oppression over America. As the holes opened up, angels started pouring through them. The bigger the holes were, the more angels that were coming through them. They were carrying the resources of heaven that included everything we needed. Heaven is about to invade earth. This is going to cause a great distinction to develop between those who know and serve the Lord, and those who do not. Todd Bentley did punch a hole through the darkness over Lakeland, and heaven has been pouring through the hole, and it is getting bigger. What is happening in Lakeland is stirring up the faith of many more. The "faith barometer" has begun to rise all over the body of Christ. Now many others are reaching up to do the same thing. The sizes of the holes are dependent on the size of our faith. I pray that what is happening in Lakeland keeps going and keeps growing, but what is now being released will go on regardless of how long the revival goes on in Lakeland. A fire has been started that is already too big to stop. Joyner also participated in Bentley's "Fresh Fire" prophetic conference in April 2005: [from http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=revival&Id=105&pid=954 SUPERNATURAL SIGNS APPEAR AT PROPHETIC CONFERENCE Feathers supernaturally appeared in the air and gently fell to the floor, as if God was opening up the Fresh Fire Ministries prophetic conference with a special divine sign of an open heaven over the place. This sign caught the attention of the capacity crowd at the Living in the Supernatural conference listening to the opening prophetic message of Revivalist and FFM founder, Todd Bentley in Abbotsford, B.C., Canada. About 36 feathers seemed to appear in mid air, a few at a time, throughout the meeting - they started ten feet below the ceiling, before drifting to earth, as heaven invaded the building. During the 4-day event, Todd, as well as international speakers and prophets, Rick Joyner, John Paul Jackson and Charlie Robinson equipped the more than 2000 attendees and called them out of natural living into a life walked out in the supernatural realm. ------------------------------------------------------------God-TV on Todd Bentley: Live coverage http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Id=&Act=show_event_details&event=348 http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=revival&Id=130&pid=954&bid=923 ------------------------------------------------------------

Sid Roth on Todd Bentley: http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=art_&page=NewsArticle&id=7301 I have just returned from Lakeland, Florida where I interviewed Todd Bentley about the ongoing revival there. This is the greatest revival since Azusa Street. The physical healing miracles, salvations, transferable anointing and manifestations of glory are awesome. This is what we all have been praying and waiting for! Go here to watch a video excerpt of my interview with Todd and feel the presence of God that was in the studio. [the interview is at: http://www.sidroth.org/site/PageServer? pagename=tv_videoupdateBentley -- with the following note:] Dear Mishpochah, The interview above was recorded with Todd Bentley at the revival in Lakeland, Florida. Also, while Todd was ministering at the revival on April 27, 2008, he stopped to give me the following word: The Lord is speaking to me (the Angel). He just spoke to me about Sid Roth....I just heard the Lord interrupt me and tell me that this anointing is gonna begin to break out in your ministry on the television and something over the airwaves, I mean the radio again. God's going to anoint you in a whole new way and this miracle anointing is going to go around the world if you will pray for the sick. Bam! It will be released in a mighty way. NOTE: In the above interview, Bentley tells how the "fire" was carried back to Rick Joyner's school. Sid Roth tells of a "presence" that entered the studio, and Bentley tries to transfer it to viewers through the camera - he commands "healing fires" (see "fire of healing" under Bit No. 2) and invites viewers to reach out and touch their computer screens. Viewers are advised to cover themselves with the blood of Yeshua and to actively refuse to receive anything. ----------------------------------------Steven Strang of Charisma Magazine on Todd Bentley: http://strangreport.com/ from "The Long-term Effects of Revival" (May 22, 2008) It's exciting to see what's happening in Lakeland. In my 32 years of covering the charismatic movement, I've never seen any "revival meeting" get so much attention so fast. Everyone, it seems, is talking about it. A long line of respected leaders have attended the meetings to see it for themselves. Most have come away saying it's a genuine move of God. After only 50 days, someone said the revival is still a "baby." So it's not fair to pass judgment yet. That is for God to do. But at the same time, we can look at history to give us an idea of what to expect. After all, it's well known that those who don't learn the lessons of history are bound to repeat them. [he then goes on to describe how similar

"revivals" ended in scandal, splits, leaders falling into sin, and other mishaps... then concludes:] So lets pray that this revival grows. Pray for the leaders who are under enormous pressure to minister seven days a week under the glare of national and international media, as well as criticsboth those who want to destroy the revival as well as those who want the revival to stay on track so it can continute to grow. ----------------------------------------------------CBN on Todd Bentley: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/370291.aspx Lakeland Revival Miracle Healings Continue By Paul Strand CBN News Sr. Washington Correspondent May 24, 2008 "astounding miracles" "happening all over the earth simultaneously" because of God TV. Goes on to document various healings. Nothing about the methods or teachings that go with this ministry. No comment when one woman said Bentley blew on her and "healed" her, allowing her to bend over (but the rods in her back are still there). "There's a silver lining here for all believers who want a piece of this action. It appears the anointing on Bentley, Strader and all those others God's using in Lakeland is highly transferable, and they're hearing back from Lakeland visitors who've returned home.... Some are saying this is the most contagious anointing the world has ever seen." Anchor man: "Revival has met the Internet age." ========================================================== Bit No. 8: Todd Bentley is on his way to Israel. He is planning to "impart" things to Israeli believers while here. http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Id=&Act=show_event_details&event=348 Israel & Turkey November 10 - 24, 2008 There is no encounter that parallels the experience of walking and praying in Israel. If you have ever dreamed of visiting Israel, prayerfully consider this window of opportunity to walk where Jesus walked, during this nations 60th Anniversary. Todd Bentley and Fresh Fire Ministries invite you to experience a tour through Turkey and Israel with us. This will be a unique trip as we journey to key biblical sites in these

two strategic nations. We expect to be lead by the Holy Spirit into times of ministry and prayer on location, as we remain attentive to His leading. What an amazing time we will have together, praying and receiving impartation in the very geographical place where Jesus prayed, performed miracles, instructed His disciples, carried the cross, rose from the dead and ascended into the heavens!... Just as the impact of Israel has, for many generations, caused a massive shock wave throughout every earthly arena, this anniversary celebration will cause a rippling effect throughout the heavenly realms! Thats why we believe this Fresh Fire trip contains within it, a divine appointment with the reality of Gods desire to fulfill His promises in our own lives. ================================================================== It is my prayer that this research will help those of the brethren who are unsure, disturbed and/or misinformed about this fast-growing phenomenon. Please, whatever you do, DO NOT make your decision based on what someone else has decided. (That includes me!) Learn to examine, think, and seek G-d's truth FOR YOURSELF. Learn to know your Lord's voice FOR YOURSELF. It is becoming a matter of Life and Death, spiritually speaking. ==================================================================

A Solemn Prophetic Warning

Prophecy by Stanley Frodsham 1965 It is written: "Despise not prophesying. Prove all things, hold fast that which is good" (I Thessalonians 5.-20,21 KIV). The following are excerpts from prophetic words given to one who was under a heavy anointing. We believe all who read these solemn prophetic warnings should take diligent heed to them. "Believe in the Lord your God, so ye shall be established,- believe His prophets, so shall ye prosper" (II Chronicles 20.-20 KIV). Great darkness is coming upon the countries that have heard My gospel but no longer walk in it. My wrath shall be manifested against all ungodliness. It shall come with great intensity. My judgments are literal, and not a thing to be lightly passed over. Before I visit the nations in judgment, I will begin at My house. When I do cause My wrath to come upon the cities of the world, My people shall be separate. I desire a people without spot or wrinkle, and such shall be preserved by Me in the time of My wrath coming upon all iniquity and unrighteousness. I am going to prepare you for the coming days by a hard path that will cause you to cry out continually unto Me. For when the going is easy, men do not seek Me, but rejoice in a temporary blessing. And when that blessing is removed, they so often turn this way and that way, but do not come to Me. I am showing you these things that you may seek

Me continually and with great diligence. As you seek Me, I will open up truths to you that you have not seen before, truths that will enable you to stand in the last days.

Coming Glory and Deceiving Spirits When I visit My people in mighty revival power it is to prepare them for the darkness ahead. With the glory shall come great darkness, for the glory is to prepare My people for the darkness. I will enable My people to go through because of the visitation of My Spirit. Take heed to yourselves lest ye be puffed up and think that you have arrived. Listen to the messengers, but do not hold man's persons in admiration. For many whom I shall anoint mightily with signs and miracles shall become lifted up and shall fall by the wayside. I do not do this willingly; I have made provision that they might stand. I call many into this ministry and equip them, but remember that many shall fall. They shall be like bright lights, and the people shall delight in them. But they shall be taken over by deceiving spirits, and shall lead many of My people astray. Hearken diligently concerning these things, for in the last days shall come seducing spirits 0 Timothy 4:1) that shall turn many of My anointed ones away. Many shall fall through divers lusts and because of sin abounding. But if you will seek Me diligently I will put My Spirit within you (Ezekiel 36:27). When one shall turn to the right hand or to the left hand, you shall not turn with them, but keep your eyes wholly on the Lord. The coming days are the most dangerous, difficult and dark, but there shall be a mighty outpouring of My Spirit upon many cities; and many shall be destroyed. My people must be diligently warned concerning the days that are ahead. Many shall turn after seducing spirits; many are already seducing My people. It is those who do righteousness that are righteous. Many cover sins by great theological words, but I warn you of seducing spirits who instruct My people in an evil way. Many shall come with seducing spirits and hold out lustful enticements. You will find that after I have visited My people again, the way shall become more and more narrow, and fewer shall walk therein. But, be not deceived, the ways of righteousness are My ways. For though Satan come as an angel of light (II Corinthians 11:13-15), hearken not to him; for those who perform miracles and speak not righteousness are not of Me. I warn you with great intensity that I am going to judge My house and have a church without spot or wrinkle when I come. I desire to open your eyes and give you spiritual understanding that you may not be deceived, but may walk in uprightness of heart before Me, loving righteousness and hating every evil way. Look unto Me, and l, will make you to perceive with the eyes of the Spirit the things that lurk in darkness, that are not visible to the human eye. Let Me lead you in this way that you may perceive the powers of darkness and battle against them. It is not a battle against flesh and blood, for if you battle in that way, you accomplish nothing. But if you let Me take over and battle against the powers of darkness, then they are defeated; and then liberation is brought to My people.

The Way of Deceivers I warn you to search the Scriptures diligently concerning these last days, for the things that are written shall indeed be made manifest. There shall come deceivers among My people in increasing number, who shall speak forth the truth and shall gain the favor of the people, for the people shall examine the Scriptures and say, "What these men say is true." Then when they have gained the hearts of the people, then and then only shall they bring out these wrong doctrines. Therefore, I say that you should not give your hearts to men, nor hold people's persons in admiration. For by these very persons shall Satan enter into My people. Watch for seducers 01 Timothy 3:13). Do you think a seducer will brandish a new heresy and flaunt it before the people? He will speak the words of righteousness and truth and will appear as a minister of light, declaring the Word. The people's hearts shall be won; they will bring out their doctrines, and the people shall be deceived. The people shall say, "Did he not speak thus and thus? And did we not examine it from the Word? Therefore he is a minister of righteousness. That he has now spoken we do not see in the Word, but it must be right, for the other things he spoke were true." Be not deceived, for the deceiver will first work to gain the hearts of many and then shall bring forth his insidious doctrines. You cannot discern those who are of Me and those who are not of Me when they start to preach. But seek Me constantly, and then when these doctrines are brought out, you shall have a witness in your heart that these are not of Me. Fear not, for I have warned you. Many will be deceived, but if you walk in holiness and uprightness before the Lord, your eyes shall be opened, and the Lord will protect you. If you will constantly look unto the Lord, you will know when the doctrine changes, and you will not be brought into it. If your heart is right, I will keep you, and if you will look constantly to Me, I will uphold you. The minister of righteousness shall be on this wise: his life shall agree with the Word, and his lips shall give forth that which is wholly true, and it will be no mixture. When the mixture appears, then you will know he is not a minister of righteousness. The deceivers speak first the truth and then error to cover their own sins, which they love. Therefore, I exhort and command you to study the Scriptures relative to seducing spirits, for this is one of the great dangers of these last days. I desire you to be firmly established in My Word, and not in the personalities of men, that you will not be moved as so many shall be moved. I would keep you in the paths of righteousness. Take heed to yourselves, and follow not the seducing spirits that are already manifesting themselves. Diligently inquire of Me when you hear something that you have not seen in the Word, and do not hold people's persons in admiration, for it is by this very method that Satan will hold many of My people.

The Way of Triumph I have come that you might have life and have it more abundantly, that you may triumph where I triumphed. On the cross I triumphed over all the powers of Satan, and I have called you to walk the same path. It is when your life is on the cross that you shall know the victory that I have experienced. As you are on the cross and seated in Me, then you shall know the power of the resurrection. When I come in My glory, the principalities and powers in the heavenly places shall be broken. Fret not, for I have given you power whereby you may tread down the powers of darkness and come forth victoriously. It was on the cross that I triumphed over all the powers of the enemy. My life shall flow through you as you enter into these precious truths. Look unto Me, and appropriate My life. As your eyes and desires are toward Me, and you know what it is to be crucified with Me, then you shall live, and your anointing shall increase. It was not in My life that I walked upon the earth, but it was in My life when I was upon the cross that I openly spoiled principalities and powers (Colossians 2:15). I am showing you truth that shall cause you to overcome, to have power over the wicked one-truth that will liberate you and those around you. You shall know also the fellowship of My sufferings. There is no other way whereby you may partake of this heavenly glory and reign with Me. "If we suffer, we shall reign with Him" (II Timothy 2:12 KJV). I desire to make these truths real within you. As you keep them before you, you will liberate many who are in bondage. You will have revelations of those in darkness and will have the keys to liberate the captives. Many seek to liberate, but they have not the keys. Upon the cross continually you will know the power of My resurrection that you may also partake of My glory. As you are willing to walk with Me and rejoice in your sufferings, you shall partake of My glory. Look unto Me, for ye have need of power to overcome the wicked one and the bondage in other lives. If you will indeed judge yourself, you shall not be judged 0 Corinthians 11:31). As you seek My face and desire to be cleansed by Me in all truth and sincerity of heart, I will judge you in the secret place, and the things that are in the secret place of your heart shall not be made manifest to others. I will do it in the secret place, and no man shall know it, and the shame that shall be seen on many faces shall not be seen on your face. Therefore, in love and mercy I am instructing you, and, therefore, have I said that if a man judge himself, he shall not be judged. It is not My good pleasure that the shame of My people be seen by all. How can I judge the world if I judge not first My own house? Hearken unto these things I am telling you. If you will not hearken to Me, your shame shall be evident to all.

God's Part and Our Part I would have you consider My life on earth-the anointing upon Me was great. Yet the temptations were great on every side, in one form and then in another, offering Me first the glory of the kingdoms of the earth, and then reviling and persecuting Me. There will be great glory given to My people, and yet the temptations shall be intensified from

every side. Think not that with the glory there shall be no temptations or persecutions. The glory to My church shall be great, and so shall the temptations from the enemy to turn My people from My paths. I am warning you that when the glory shall be manifested, the temptations shall be great, until very few that start shall finish. First, there shall be offered them great worldly possessions, and then great revilings and unbelief. Consider your Lord, that as He walked, so it shall be for you. There shall be need of great intensity of purpose. At times, everyone shall rise up against you, simply to turn you from the course that I would put you on. It is written of Me that I set My face as a flint to go the direction My Father had prescribed for Me Isaiah 50:7). If you will finish the course the Lord has laid down for you, you will have to set your face as a flint with great determination-you must walk in the course laid down for you. Many of your loved ones and those who follow with you shall persuade you and try to turn you from the course. With many words that seem right in the natural will they speak to you. Did not Christ rebuke Peter, who would turn Him from the course God had prescribed? (Matthew 16:22, 23) Understand these two things and meditate upon them solemnly: the persecution and the darkness shall be as great as the glory, in order to try to turn the elect and the anointed ones from the path the Lord has laid down for them. Many shall start, but few shall be able to finish because of the greatness of grace that shall be needed to be able to endure unto the end. The temptation and persecution of your Lord was continuous. He was tempted by Satan in many forms throughout His entire life, and even on the cross when the ungodly cried out, "If thou be the Christ, come down from the cross." Think not that there shall be a time of no persecution, for it shall be from the time of your anointing unto the end-difficulties and great persecution to the end. The Lord must prepare you to be an overcomer in all things, that you may be able to finish the course. The persecution shall increase, even as the anointing shall increase. In paths of judgment and righteousness shall the Lord God lead His people and bring them into that place which He has chosen for them. For the Lord has chosen a place for His people, a place of righteousness and holiness where He shall encamp round about them, and all who will be led of the Lord shall be brought into this holy place, for the Lord delights to dwell in His people and to manifest Himself through His people. The holiness of the Lord shall be manifested through his people. Let the Lord lead you in difficult places. He led His people of old through the place where no man dwelt, where no man had passed through- in a place of great danger, and in the shadow of death. The Lord will indeed lead His people through such places, and yet He will bring them out into a place of great glory. Understand that the way toward the glory is fraught with great danger, and many shall fall to the right or to the left; many shall camp on lesser ground, but the Lord has a place of holiness, and no unclean things shall dwell among His people. Put your trust in Him, and He will bring you into a place of holiness. He desires to bring His people into great glory, the like of which has never been seen: what the Lord will do

for those who put their trust in Him. It is a place of darkness and great danger that separates His people into the place He would have them walk in. He will protect them from the voices that would turn them from His path. He will bring them through the dark places, and through the treacherous paths, out into the light of His glory. He will rejoice greatly over His beloved, and cause you to be filled with joy unspeakable. He seeks to lead His people into a new place of grace and glory where He will indeed encamp among them. Put your trust in Him, and He will surely bring you into this new place. Fear not the days to come, but fear this only: that you shall walk in a manner pleasing to the Lord. In this time I am ordering and setting up My church, and it shall indeed be pure, without spot or wrinkle. I will do a work in My beloved that has not been seen since the foundation of the world. I have shown you these things that you may seek the Lord diligently with all your heart, and that you may be a preserver of His people. Run not to this one nor to that one, for the Lord has so ordained that salvation is in Him, and in Him alone. You shall not turn to this shepherd, or to that one; for there shall be a great scattering upon the earth. Therefore, look unto Him, for He will indeed make these things clear to you. You shall not look here nor there, for wells that once had water shall be no more. But, as you diligently seek Him, He shall increase your strength and your faith that He may be able to prepare you for this time that is coming. The truths that I have revealed to you must become a part of you, not just an experience, but a part of your very nature. Is it not written that I demand truth in the inward parts? It is the truth of the Lord expressed in your very being that shall hold you. Many shall experience the truth, but the truth must become a part of you-your very life. As men and women look upon you, they will hear not only the voice, but see the expression of the truth. Many shall be overcome because they are not constant in My ways, and because they have not permitted the truths to become part of them. I am showing you these truths that you may be prepared and having done all, to stand.

False Man-child Coming Now

Garrett Crawford - 8/19/08 (David's notes in red) I arrived at a gym to attend basketball camp. I wanted to improve my skills and become a better player. There were two different groups in this gym. The one to the left were the hotshots and very skilled players. They were not practicing on their skills; rather, they were playing five-on-five, showcasing their fancy moves. I really wanted to join this camp because it looked more fun and exciting. I sat down on the bleachers with about 20-30 others waiting to get in the game. But as I watched, I realized that this game did not suit me; I was not as fancy as these players. I noticed that over to the right of the gym was another group of guys. They were very orderly and lined up into five rows of five each. Each had a ball and they were dribbling in unison. They were not competing

against one another and they all looked the same. That is when I noticed that maybe I had made a bad choice wanting to play with the group on the left. (The sects of Christianity are playing their competitive games, attempting to outdo one another in their false show. They are placed on the left as the goats that are stubborn and selfwilled. Those on the right who follow Christ in truth are not competing or putting on a show but seek to be skillful in the work as they become one in unison. The goal is for all to make the goal not to beat someone else out as the world. They look the same because they have one goal: to walk as Jesus walked.) During the game which was being played by the men on the left, all kinds of important people were coming to watch it. Many of which were famous coaches and their wives. I recall looking out the window and seeing a lot of expensive cars pull up and I saw a group of women walking thru the parking lot to the gym. Someone said that those were the wives of the Kansas City Chiefs coaches. Many were impressed by the sight of them and it only added allure and excitement to what was taking place in the gym. (The Kansas City false revival leaders have promoted this false third wave movement of goats who are putting on an impressive show to deceive the people on the left. A false apostolic movement had anointed and appointed Todd Bentley just before the world discovered his corrupt life and fake miracles. In their attempts to join in his fame they were discovered to not have any discernment or to be apostles, either. This is just one of the many sects of the false prophets and apostles they will call the man-child. Robert Henderson, of this apostolic movement, spoke of bringing the whole U.S. under Dutch Sheets, C Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce and himself. Dutch Sheets said (parentheses mine), "Our ministry in Colorado Springs, along with many others Im sure, has been privileged by God to help birth this (false man-child). We were visited by the Holy Spirit (of the false revival) June 15th and asked to host His Presence 24/7 for 90 days, just as Obed-edom did the Ark of the Covenant, also called 'the Ark of His Presence' (see 2 Samuel 6:10-11). We have suspended everything else to host Him no classes, no preaching (even on Sundays), no programsnothing but worship. It has wrecked us! (Notice this word "wrecked" for reference below.) His presence has been so overwhelming at times in our gatherings that none of us knows what to do. We are being ruined for 'normal' Christianity." Robert also said on the video that the impartation they would receive if they did this could be passed on to the nations (false anointing of the forth wave.) As the game went on, a 20-something man came in and sat behind me. We started a conversation and it led to my faith and Jesus Christ. I gave him a testimony and he was very impressed. I told him how the Lord had saved me from some terrible wreck or something. Although he himself was a heathen, he was smiling big and telling others around me what the Lord did for me. (Those who do not join the movement on the left, realizing it to be false, will have a great testimony and be saved from a terrible wreck that comes to all those anointed with the false revival spirits. "Wrecked" is a term the false revivalists use to mean good for nothing but soaking in the false spirits of this destructive movement.)

After I witnessed to him, I lost all passion to play in the game and I realized that my sole purpose for being there was to witness to that man. So once I had accomplished this, I got up and left the gym. I was walking around the halls of what I soon realized was my childhood elementary school. I was trying to find the exit but everything had changed since I was there last and I was having trouble finding the exit. I soon managed to make it outside and I began to walk away from the school. (We must seek diligently to "come out from among" the elementary teachings and show of false ways and spirits of those infected by the False Revival movement.) As I was standing some way off I heard police sirens. I quickly looked around and noticed that there was a very big black limousine (the way of darkness and prosperity) heading to the school, followed by a motorcade of cops and security. I was really curious who was in there. I assumed it was more elite or dignitaries heading to the school to watch the game. Then I heard a lot of commotion and excitement filled the air. I heard a voice from somewhere say, Its Jesus! Hes come back! I was amazed. I thought to myself this must be the second coming! (The False Christ, or "anointed" in Greek, is coming now in a fourth wave to the False Revival movement. This is a false man-child movement that will compete with the real Man-child, even as Pharaohs magicians and Korah, Dathan, and Abiram did Moses. Also, those sorcerers who opposed the apostles in Acts with signs and wonders are a type of this -- Acts 8:9-24; 13:3-12.) I quickly ran back to the school and as I was running I saw a secret service agent pull in behind me and get out of his black SUV and say, Hurry and secure Jesus; there is a man running toward him. He was talking about me, but I ran faster to the door of the building. When I opened the door I saw something out of the scene from a Hollywood award show and the madness that ensues on the red carpet. Flash bulbs were everywhere; reporters were frantically trying position themselves around the room. I heard commotion, and nervous excitement filled the air. I looked directly across the room to a platform and I saw him. It was Jesus. (The world has shown every kind of attention and respect to the false leaders of Christianity, proving they are not who they say they are. {Jn.15:18} If the world hateth you, ye know that it hath hated me before [it hated] you. {19} If ye were of the world, the world would love its own: but because ye are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. The world beast will not, as the secret service agent did, seek the protection of the true Jesus when they have sought His death in the past. Even the apostate church will hate Jesus. {Jn.15:25} But [this cometh to pass], that the word may be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. They will love a false man-child every time because they love the glory of men. {Jn.5:43} I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. {44} How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that [cometh] from the only God ye seek not?) I stared at him in bewilderment, and he stared back at me across the room. I was shocked by his appearance. He did not appear like what you would commonly perceive him to be. He did not look Jewish and did not have any Middle Eastern features. (If this

Jesus doesnt look like THE Jesus, then he has not "put on the Lord Jesus Christ" [Rom.13:14] or been "transformed into the same image" [2 Cor.3:18]. Jesus was the Man-child and was called an Apostle, even as the false Christs who imitate Him.) He was Latin or Italian, with long sleek straight black hair (submission to darkness - 1 Cor.11). He was very attractive and I heard some women say, Hes so handsome! (God didn't choose Jesus or the Man-child to have any fleshly enticement. {Isa.53:2} For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.) He was being shuffled off the platform to a door on the right that went somewhere; I assumed it was to a news conference to show him to the world. He looked into the crowd and said, "Hurry, I need an assistant!" He pointed to a young Christian that I knew and said, "Come with me!" That is when he and his entourage rushed through the door to the awaiting world outside. All the media and reporters followed them out this door and soon the room was pretty much empty and quiet. It looked like the morning after a New Year's Eve party, with garbage and paper lying on the ground. (The New Year's Eve party reminds us of the "drunk in the spirit" lie foisted upon the false revivalists and the party when the golden calf was unveiled. Jesus and His disciples were nothing to look at and sought to elude the limelight, preferring to give glory only to God. This seeking fame and putting on a show for the world is the signature of the False Revival movement and its apostate "apostles." {2 Cor.11:13} For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into apostles of Christ. {14} And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light. {15} It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works. The harlot church will be those who continue to follow these false apostles or false man-childs. Welcome to the "last days," folks. {2 Tim.3:1} But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. {2} For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers ... {5} holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof: from these also turn away. {6} For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women (sects of Christianity) laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, {7} ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. {8} And even as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also withstand the truth. Men corrupted in mind, reprobate concerning the faith. {9} But they shall proceed no further. For their folly shall be evident unto all men, as theirs also came to be. ... {13} But evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. Jannes and Jambres went a step beyond the third wave fakery; they actually did lying signs and wonders, which confirm false men and their false word. Pray that God help you to see the wolves under the sheeps false exterior.) As I was thinking on what I had seen, the back door flew open and I quickly turned around. There in the doorway stood a very big and hairy beast, as big as a buffalo. He had authority and power and I watched as he marched in the room and began giving orders to minions that were running around and doing important tasks. He had a plan;

he was making sure that it would go off without a hitch. I came to realize that this beast was in total control and he was the one that orchestrated the events of the false messiah showing himself to the world just minutes earlier! The Jesus I had seen earlier was just a decoy! He was not really Jesus. The beast was tricking the world to receive this Messiah and then they would receive the beast behind the scenes without even knowing it! As I watched this creature in this war room giving orders and planning, I realized the size and scope of this deception! No one knew what was taking place in this room; they had all left earlier with the false messiah. I was astonished in what I was seeing; the evil plan of this beast was deceiving the whole world. (The beast from the bottomless pit rules the harlot and her false man-child. She comes in riding upon the beast but will soon be thrown down and burned. Egypt resisted the true Man-child, Moses, who was sent to set the spiritual man free, because they respected Jannes' and Jambres' false signs and leadership. In this way the Egyptian beast ruled through these false apostles. I kept watching this beastly creature and noticed many things about him. When I first saw him he had two heads. The one on the left was skinnier and taller, like it had less importance. (This is the corporate false prophet who rules the religious people for the beast, being a member of his body and having his nature.) The one on the right was large, broad and round. The orders seem to come from this head. (This is the corporate governmental beast who uses the false prophet to rule.) After time I only saw one head -- the large broad one. (When the beast has overcome he will not need the false prophet and their harlot system any more and will devour them with fire.) After some time I found myself in a backroom that was outside the beasts war room. He walked in there and shut the door behind him and was addressing some people in there. He was revealing his plan clearer to this select group. That is when I saw him take off his head and there was a human head underneath it. It was the face of someone I have seen before: the lead singer of a satanic rock group called Korn. He was laughing hysterically and taking pride in the plan that was underway. (Their true satanic nature will be revealed once the trap for the apostates is sprung and the Church has been cleansed of the sons of perdition. {2 Thes.2:8} And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9} [even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.) All of the false leadership of Christianity is being bought out by the beast government. See this article and those on the Kansas City Prophets movement and Todd Bentley. Also read Beware of the False Man-child Ministers and more witnesses of the true manchild.

Todd Bentley Exposed

Todd Bentley Marries His Mistress Todd Bentleys Mistress, Jessa, Revealed Todd Bentley Quits Ministry After "Unhealthy Relationship" Revealed Three Lessons from Lakeland

The Needed Closure on Todd Bentley

(Note from Jan: Pastor Chris Elrod, Sr. Pastor, Compass Point Church, Lakeland, Florida, sums up the Todd Bentley scenario. None of us who were sounding warnings take delight in this closure. Yet we are relieved that fewer will now be harmed by another "counterfeit revival." - Jan Markell) As I was on my way home from South Carolina last Thursday night, I got "the call." My friend and fellow Lakeland pastor let me know that the news about Todd Bentley -- the news that had circulated around Lakeland for weeks -- was finally about to break. For months it had been rumor with very little hard facts to back it up. Local church leaders had been hearing things about Todd and Ignited Church that caused us to question even more the validity of the "revival." Then the truth began to come out bit by bit, first to Lakeland and then to the world, and now Todd's wife was in Canada getting help while he was "floating around" the United States trying to get his head together. Yes, Todd was legally separating from his wife. Yes, there was another woman involved. Yes, this was not the first time Todd had been involved with another woman. Yes, Todd and Ignited Church had failed to address concerns -- many being voiced by their own denomination and people who support such outpourings -- about the heresy being preached and displayed at the "revival." Yes, there was not one single medical document to prove that any healing had actually taken place. As the fallout continues and more facts are beginning to emerge about everyone involved with this mess, I have begun to ask myself some pretty hard questions. Did I handle this correctly? When the first news began to break around here about Todd, healings, and the revival, I went to see it for myself. In all, I attended four separate "revival" meetings over a twomonth period. I also watched countless hours of the events on the Internet. I witnessed

Todd hollering "BAM" a lot. I witnessed "verification teams" in the parking lot carefully choosing people deemed candidates for "healing" while turning many others down. I watched ushers push ill children away from the stage area because they had not been preapproved for "healing." I heard stories about pixie-dust-spreading angels and conversations with the Apostles in some abstract heavenly cabin. I saw leg drops, high kicks, head punches, and every other Wrestlemania cliche under the sun. I heard anonymous crazy stories about people being healed and others being raised from the dead. I heard and saw many strange things -- but nothing that even remotely kept with sound doctrine. Every biblicaldiscerning bone in my body showed me that there was nothing going on at the "revival" that was in keeping with God's Word. I began to speak out against the revival, Todd, and Ignited Church, to our people. Mainly it was through our Journey Groups, one-on-one conversations, phone calls, and e-mails. However, I was advised by several other pastors not to speak out against it publicly because "I might be speaking against something that God is actually doing" (I wasn't questioning God -- I was questioning Todd). I never addressed it from the pulpit because our podcast is heard by hundreds of people all over the world. I never blogged about it because I get a 1,000+ hits on a normal day. I dodged the questions about the revival in recent radio interviews I did in other parts of the United States. Finally, I refused to answer the hundreds of e-mails I got about the "revival" from other folks all over the world. In essence, I protected my flock from the three-ring circus and hoopla but did nothing to protect the Body of Christ as a whole. Hindsight they say is 20/20. It now turns out that all of the rumors were true. It now turns out that the scriptural discernment was correct. It now turns out that this was the same craziness without accountability that the leadership of the sponsoring church is known for. The three-ring circus has been packed up, the tents have been taken down, and the moral failure has been announced. Everyone involved is pushing back, and thousands of hurting people are left questioning God and their salvation. The question that I now have to ask myself and the question that will haunt me for quite a while is this. Did I sit on the sidelines while the playing field burned? Should have I blogged about it and spoken out about it publicly -- done more to get the word out to the rest of the world that this whole thing was about Todd and not God? I took care of my own house -- but should I have done more to take care of the entire neighborhood? Charismatic leader Dutch Sheets also humbled himself stating, "My assignment from the Lord is to repent on behalf of the leadership of the Charismatic Body of Christ. We have failed the Lord and His people in many ways. We must repent if we are to be trusted in the future. We, the leaders of the Charismatic community, have operated in an extremely low level of discernment. Frankly, we often don't even try to discern. We assume a person's credibility based on gifts, charisma, whether they can prophesy, or work a miracle."

NOTE FROM JAN: I am glad that these two leaders have been brave enough to speak out. Let's hope that many other leaders will follow in their steps and lead their followers to test ALL things and not just follow every wind of doctrine. Remember to pray for Todd and his family. My two hour program on this issue is posted at my "Radio Archives" for July 19, 2008. Numerous guests spoke into the issue, long before all the details came out. For podcasting information, click here.

KUNDALINI WARNING - Urgent

Andrew Strom 1/20/10 I just saw the video of Rick Joyner announcing that Todd Bentley is back ministering every night at Morningstar in North Carolina and now they have so-called "revival" manifestations eerily similar to Lakeland. They also announced that they are streaming these big meetings every night on their new TV channel - and they are greatly promoting the whole thing. Now I am a tongues-speaking Pentecostal myself - but can I ask a simple question here please? What kind of "spirit" was it operating in the Lakeland revival - when the leader and main focal-point of the meetings (Todd Bentley) was having an adulterous affair behind the scenes? Was it truly the "Holy" Spirit that was anointing something so sensual and unholy? And now that Todd divorced his wife and married his mistress are we supposed to welcome him back and this "anointing" with him? What is going on here? Rick Joyner has been warned very specifically by high-level ministries not to do what he is doing now - bringing Todd Bentley back into the limelight. And yet it seems he does not care. Apparently the "manifestations" are all that matter. So what exactly are these 'manifestations' if they are seemingly at home in such an unholy environment? Are they from God at all? (I am talking here about the violent "jerking", uncontrollable laughter, bodily contortions, drunkenness, 'portals', strange "angel" encounters, etc.) Why do we not see such an 'anointing' in the Bible? Why aren't Jesus or the apostles promoting these manifestations if they really are true Revival? Why instead do we see these things all the way through the New Age and Hinduism, etc? Do we not realize that many false religions have their own version of "laying on of hands" that results in these very types of manifestations? This 'spirit' is not in the Bible but it is all the way through Kundalini-type Hinduism! Don't you think this should alarm us? WHAT is KUNDALINI? If you search for Kundalini and Shakti on the Internet, you will find that multitudes of people in the New Age and Eastern religions still experience these powerful manifestations. Often this is with the help of a Guru, who touches them on the forehead

so that they can experience a "Kundalini Awakening". As researcher Robert Walker wrote in 1995: "The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'. At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead, by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch. The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini. After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called 'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness..." And as the guru Shri Yognandji Mahrja wrote: "When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions. the Kundalini Shakti has become active." In China there is a popular Kundalini-type movement called 'Qigong'. When a Chinese Qigong spiritual master spoke in the USA in 1991, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that many in the crowd began to experience "spontaneous movements". The master told his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some strong physical sensations - or start laughing or crying. Don't worry. This is quite normal." When you see videos of these "kriyas" or other Kundalini-type manifestations, you would often swear that you are watching a modern "Impartation"-type church meeting. (And I say this as someone who believes strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I just don't believe in "alien" anointings infiltrating the Body of Christ! There is a big difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit). Since 1993-4, I believe a foreign spirit has been allowed to invade the church - first through Rodney Howard-Browne's ministry - then Toronto, then the Prophetic movement (which I was part of at the time) and on into Lakeland and many other ministries and movements. I urge people now to "test the spirits" just as we are commanded to in Scripture. Do not let just anyone lay hands on you. This is a powerful spirit and it has the backing of a lot of big-name ministries. In fact, these men and women are the very ones responsible for allowing it to spread right through the body of Christ. And one day they will be answerable to God for doing so. We are specifically warned in the Bible that the Last Days will be a time of "seducing spirits," false prophets, 'lying signs and wonders,' and that we always need to watch for "angels of light" masquerading as the real thing. Why does the modern church not take these warnings seriously? Aren't we living in the very days that the Bible warns about?

Right now I need to do something that I have never done in such a way before. I have never before published a list of ministries or movements to watch out for. But this time I have to. This sickness has gone on long enough. I urge you to cut yourself off from the following ministries and their tainted "anointings" my friends. Even though some of these people say "good things" at times, it is simply not worth having any involvement with them due to the tainted anointing that they endorse or minister in themselves. Here is the list(1) Todd Bentley. (2) Rodney Howard Browne - the so-called "Holy Ghost Bartender." (2) Rick Joyner or anyone connected with Morningstar Ministries. (3) John Arnott & any connected with TACF (The "Toronto Blessing"). (4) Peter Wagner of the 'New Apostolic Reformation' who claims to be head of a worldwide network of 'apostles' - who publicly endorsed Lakeland and will soon preach at Toronto TACF alongside other "false anointing" advocates. (5) Mike Bickle and IHOP Kansas City (-I lived nearby for over two years - and know how much they are into all this stuff. Mike Bickle promotes it in his book). (6) Bob Jones - the Kansas City prophet whose ministry is utterly tainted by it all. (7) Patricia King and anyone else from 'Extreme Prophetic.' (8) John Crowder & anyone connected with "Sloshfest." (9) Bill Johnson of Bethel church, Redding - who says some good things but publicly endorsed Lakeland and promotes the "false anointing" very strongly behind the scenes. (10) Heidi & Rolland Baker of IRIS Ministries - who do good work amongst the poor in Mozambique - but who have also carried and promoted this tainted anointing for years. (11) Randy Clark, Wes & Stacey Campbell, and other key figures from the "Toronto blessing." (12) The Elijah List - and almost anyone featured on it. Of course there are a huge number of lesser-known preachers and ministries who carry or endorse this Kundalini-type "anointing" around the world. But I have concentrated here on the most influential that I know of. It really is an enormous issue in the church. I urge anyone who is a supporter of any of the above ministries to really check them out thoroughly. If you find (as I have) that they carry or endorse this false Kundalini spirit in the church, then please stop supporting them in any way - and whatever you do, don't let them "lay hands" on you! I am putting everything on the line to be "naming names" like this. But I believe it is that serious. How on earth did we get to the point where "kriyas" just like Hinduism are spreading through the church? Please forward this email to everyone you know, blogs and boards, etc. These people are trying to "relaunch" this whole thing right now. Help us get this warning out. To see a video showing "kriyas" and other Kundalini-type manifestations, please watch the following videos.

Please send feedback on this article to prophetic@revivalschool.com God bless you all! Andrew Strom. REPLIES to "KUNDALINI WARNING" 5 replies/ comments are below: "D" writes: I went to Lakeland 3 times. I was so drawn to go there. I really thought it was of God... I had so many supernatural experiences - to seeing a mystical Jesus with a third eye, angels talking to me, visions, being transported. I had one experience with my daughter being in the room and her experiencing it too. I was roaring like a lion, had gold dust and many other experiences. The worst thing that happened to me is that it got sexual. This false Jesus was approaching me sexually and I fell into it. I still to this day do not understand how I could have been so deceived. I have been a Christian since the age of 16. I am 49 now... I fell right in... hook, line and sinker. When I came home that last visit I became aware it was demonic, and I was surrounded and covered with demons literally, it was so horrible, all that I went through, you cannot imagine... I was seeing demons and being touched sexually and tormentingly constantly.. it has been 1 1/2 years and I am still battling these demonic spirits. I cry out to the Lord everyday for total deliverance. It has been horrible. I have renounced and repented, but still fighting. How do we get free of this? SHERIE writes: I can testify that I was infested with this foul eastern spirit, the kundalini. I was in a movement from 1992 - 2000 which had close links with the Toronto movement. From 2000 - 2006 I joined a church with links to Bill Johnson. I was desperate for God to move in my life and change situations and heal hurts and was very open to ministry - I had many in this movement touch my forehead and experienced the manifestations you describe - drunkenness, laughing and crying, shaking. I got dreams and visions and just before I left the structure (church) I had a vivid dream of a huge python that came through the back door and attached itself to my car, and also to rooms in my home. I was very disturbed and sought the Lord for an answer. It took about 6 months before I was delivered, but God brought a couple over my path who God had trained and had victory over spiritual entities. Every time I was in their presence, I would get very anxious, and they would calmly pray for me and I could feel darkness leaving and my sanity restored. It was only after 6 months of these episodes, I was again in their presence and sensed a fight ensue in the Spirit. I was very anxious and fearful and could feel a huge snake in my spine - I was rigid and very uncomfortable - It felt as if this thing wanted to throttle me and rob me of my life. I called out to God

and they quietly prayed - then I asked the Lady to pull this serpent out of my head - it felt as if it could exit near the top of my crown. She continued to pray and I got the word "kundalini " in my spirit and just commanded this thing by its name to go in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. I pled the blood as it was very frightening, and it left. I felt like a washed out rag, but I was free! That was the last lime I had deliverance and my spiritual eyes have since opened and God has done a mighty work in me outside of the structure... Afterwards they were amazed and asked me what strange term I had used and where it came from - I had no idea except that it was God who gave me knowledge in that situation. Thank you for the info that has made everything clear to me! Now have confirmation from where I was infected! May many of your readers heed the call of God to "come out and sever yourselves" from Babylon and its lies and deception and foul spirits, while there is time... LUCY writes: David Wilkerson also mentioned the kundalini spirit, and I researched it in late October, after having attended the Fredericksburg (Virginia) Prayer Furnace at which Che Ahn ministered. There, I saw many of the manifestations you mention: hopping and jumping during "worship", falling backward at Che Ahn's touch, extreme jerkiness in several cases. Very uncomfortable with this, I came home and watched (my first time ever) videos of Todd Bentley. Needless to say, I was appalled... SARAH writes: I'm just about in tears over all of this... May and I watched the very first nights of the recent "outpouring of the Holy Spirit" on the IHOP webstream and boy, did that turn sour fast. Aside from the singing on the first night, everything was just messed up. AHH! It's breaking my heart! How many people do we know and love in KC?! I've watched my beloved siblings laugh uncontrollably, jerk as though sick, stumble and speak as though drunk, and "sing in tongues" in complete chaos and without interpretation. I've raised the issue among friends of being "drunk in the Spirit" and even though I prove over and over that God is for self-control, which they agree with, they continue to act like drunken fools! (See Titus 1:8 and 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 which compared in the NKJV and NIV relates self-control with being sober, pointing to the fact that the Holy Spirit is not one who takes delight in being drunk at all, but in being sober-minded - fruit of the Spirit, what? Drunkenness is the complete opposite of being filled with the Holy Spirit! For sober-mindedness is a filling of Him!; 1 Peter 1:13, 4:7, and 5:8 ... BRENDA writes: A very dear friend of mine who has been my prayer partner for years were lured into the enemy's web of deception about many of the ministries and manifestations that you spoke about. After reading and listening to your web broadcasts we had a powerful prayer session repenting, renouncing, and commanding any spirit that we had picked up

from these false prophets/doctrines of demons, etc. to go from us in Jesus' name. We broke all kinds of things off of us. Most of it was deep repentance and renouncing thank you for exposing the enemy and his tactics and all the deception that the church body has fallen deeply into... ANDREW STROM: Yes - if you have had "hands laid" or done "soaking prayer" under any of these kinds of ministries, it is very important to RENOUNCE (from the very depths of your being in Jesus' name) and also COMMAND OUT these 'kundalini' spirits or any other "anointing" that you have received. Remember, you must VIOLENTLY EXPEL these things in the name of JESUS. Be FREE in His mighty name! I truly wonder what God is going to do to those ministries who have been spreading this alien spirit right through the Body of Christ. Truly, Judgment must begin "at the house of God."

Todd Bentley marries woman whom he had extramarital affair with

Those who have been following the misadventures of Canadian evangelist Todd Bentley may be interested to know that he remarried a few days ago. Mr. Bentley has married the former Jessa Hasbrook, a former intern for his ministry. Last summer, his internationally famous revival campaign in Lakeland, Florida collapsed when it was revelead that he and Jessa had begun an "emotional affair". Charismatic leaders C. Peter Wagner and Robert Ricciardelli, however, have reported that the affair was apparently sexual. Mr. Ricciardelli, furthermore, has indicated that this affair, whatever type it was, began in January of last year, which would place it well before Mr. Bentley announced that he was separating from his wife Shonnah. This is also well before Mr. Bentley brought Shonnah Bentley and his kids to Lakeland to show them to an international T.V. audience. Shonnah Bentley even preached in a local church to promote her husband's revival. (Even non-contested divorces in British Columbia take at least two to five months to process. If we work backwards, it appears that Todd and Jessa Bentley could have wound up marrying as quickly as the day after Todd Bentley's divorce paperwork arrived in the mail from Canada. A five month delay until now would place the start of everything back around last November, which, interestingly, was around the same time that Shonnah Bentley and her mom Val Andres, in control of the remnant of the Fresh Fire board, issued the statement on behalf of the board that Todd was committing "adultery", and castigated the evangelist at some length.) Readers may recall that I reported on The Shotgun last fall that Shonnah Bentley has a lifelong disability after suffering cancer as a teen: I wrote: Mr. Bentley must realize that if, he divorces his current wife in favor of a trophy wife, there will be speculation in the minds of some of his Internet and Christian media critics that one of the reasons that he is getting rid of

Shonnah is because her disability embarrasses himand moreover, that his theology does not work with a wife hobbling along at his side. There are several pictures and videos of Jessa on the Internet now. With all due respect to Shonnah Bentley (as I do not like to make such comparisons in print), the new Jessa Bentley is certainly a "trophy wife" for the evangelist. She is significantly younger than Todd Bentley, pretty, and by all indications, completely able bodied. I do not think that Mr. Bentley was thinking of Jessa's spiritual gifts, skills, training or knowledge, when he asked for her hand. To my knowledge, Jessa has never preached, ministered in faith-healing as Mr. Bentley has, or done anything to indicate that she can significantly help her new husband in his work. (Shonnah Bentley has. Not that it matters to Mr. Bentley now, though.) Watch for the Christian press, if they are on the ball, to point this out. Hopefully, with side-by-side photos of both Mrs. Bentleys. This is a fait accompli presented to Rick Joyner, the U.S. Christian evangelist who has yet to begin "restoring" Mr. Bentley to ministry. Mr. Bentley is saying to Mr. Joyner. "Look, buddy, I'm marrying this woman, and whatever advice you may have to the contrary based on the Bible or your educated wisdom, is beside the point." Very conservative Christians (which include some charismatics) believe that remarriage while one's first spouse in alive is proscribed by the Bible, so it will be interesting to see what kind of arguments that Joyner and Mr. Bentley can advance here. I don't think that arguing something like "I no longer love my first wife, but I love this prettier, able-bodied and younger woman who doesn't have the maturity (spiritually or emotionally) to hold me accountable to God's standards (as a husband and evangelist) in the same way that Shonnah can. So, that's why I married Jessa." will work well for Mr. Bentley. Nevertheless he will try. Readers of Mr. Bentley's autobiography, Journey Into the Miraculous, will also recall a vision that Mr. Bentley had before his marriage that I've discussed in the Shotgun before. You may recall that he claims in his autobiography that he received a special message from the Lord that he was to marry Shonnah Andres...which he did. He wrote: the Lord had actually shown me an open vision of Shonnah. It was my first open-eyed vision. I was in my living room and my fireplace opened up, kind of like a TV screen, and I saw us embracing in a wheat field that was ready for harvest. We were both weeping and I was wearing a tux and she was wearing a wedding dress. As the vision unfolded, her friend Roswetta (who was now my friend) was talking with me in the living room about Shonnah. I described the open vision to her as it happened. The presence of the Lord fell and we both wept. Roswetta said, I cant see it but I can feel goose bumps. During this vision, I also received an anointing of creativity, poetry and writing. In fact, I even received a three-page prophetic poem that I read at our wedding. I still write prophetic poems for my wife to this day. Todd Bentley lied. He lied to get Shonnah Bentley to marry him. Otherwise, if he believed that heard from God, in the same way that he "hears from God" on behalf of people wanting a healing touch or a message from the Lord, he would have moved heaven and earth to stay with his first wife. Sadly, that is the point of view on this that makes the most sense now. Jessa Bentley--if Todd told you anything about a vision that he had where Jesus told him to marry you, please save yourself some heartbreak and take it with the biggest grain of salt that you can find. This poses an interesting question for Mr. Bentley's U.S. publisher Destiny Image Publishers. Are there any whoppers in Mr. Bentley's three books? What will happen to Todd's account of his vision about marrying Shonnah in future editions of his autobiography? Will it disappear in the same way that officials who displeased Stalin started disappearing from pictures and photos as they were taken to the Gulag?

Sad, very sad. I wonder what Mr. Bentley can say when he fields inquiries from the press again.

Posted by Rick Hiebert on March 7, 2009

Todd Bentley Quits Ministry After "Unhealthy Relationship" Revealed

Fornication and divorce has been a common result among those who give and receive the transference of demons through the Trojan Horse revival people. Todd Bentley's divorce proceedings From the Board of Directors - Fresh Fire Ministries - August 15, 2008 We wish to thank all of our friends and partners for the overwhelming flood of support and compassion we have received as a ministry on behalf of Todd and Shonnah Bentley. The many phone calls and emails of concern from people who genuinely love the Bentleys and Fresh Fire Ministries have been a great encouragement to all of us here during these past few days. In particular, the rallying of support and prayer for Todd and Shonnah by prominent leaders within the Body of Christ has been a beautiful indicator of the maturity and grace the Lord is bringing to his Bride. We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life. Note from David: Stepping down from the ministry by their leader seems to be a pretty stiff penalty for merely an "emotional" relationship(???)

Three Lessons from Lakeland

David Servant - 9/14/08 Depending on where you live in the world and what interests you, you may or may not have some knowledge of the recent revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida, led by Canadian Todd Bentley. Although tens of thousands from around the world flocked to Lakeland over a period of four months---mostly due to the reports of physical healings--the meetings generated considerable controversy due to Bentley's questionable doctrines, strange angelic encounters, unconventional style, and his exaggerated and sometimes outright false reports of miracles. Perhaps the crowning moment of the Lakeland meetings was June 23rd, when a number of prominent charismatic "apostles" and "prophets" publicly endorsed Bentley's ministry and the revival he was leading. Charisma magazine, in an article titled, Leaders Commission Todd Bentley at "Lakeland Outpouring," stated that, "The special service was billed by leaders as one of the greatest moments in revival history." One wellknown charismatic leader, an "apostle," described that event as "a commissioning ceremony, complete with decrees and prophecies of going to higher levels, predictions of Todds increasing world-wide influence and leading a world-wide revival, emphatic and prolific endorsements of his character, etc." Peter Wagner, "presiding apostle" of the International Coalition of Apostles, was one of those who endorsed Bentley that evening, publicly stating, This commissioning represents a powerful spiritual transaction taking place in the invisible world. With this in mind, I take the apostolic authority that God has given me and I decree to Todd Bentley, your power will increase, your authority will increase, your favor will increase, your influence will increase, your revelation will increase." Just a few weeks later, however, it became apparent that all those "apostles" and "prophets" may have made a little mistake. The Lakeland revival, already in decline by then, unraveled with Bentley's announcement of his plans to divorce his wife and the revelation of his inappropriate relationship with a woman on his ministry staff. Since then, it has been learned that those revelations are just the tip of the iceberg. One lesson we can all learn from Lakeland is that you can toss out the gospel found in the Bible, kick and punch people who are seeking healing, regularly chat with angels with names like "Winds of Change" and "Emma," act like a drunken fool, transfer your anointing so that others can spread these blessings around the globe, repeatedly exaggerate and lie, gain riches in the process, and be a successful minister in the U.S. But whatever you do, don't divorce your wife. That could ruin you (at least temporarily). Pushing all sarcasm aside, I think there are some very valid lessons that can be learned from Lakeland. I'm going to do my best to be as gracious as I can, which at my current level of sanctification will not be gracious enough for some. If you think I'm too critical, my only defense is this: If you knew how critical I was tempted to be, you would be

proud of my self-restraint. Lesson #1 The first and most important lesson is, "You will know them by their fruits" (Matt. 7:20). Jesus told His followers this to keep them from being misled by false prophets and teachers. Read within its immediate context, it is very clear that the kind of fruit Jesus was speaking of was not the fruit of miracles or supernatural manifestations: So then, you will know them [false prophets] by their fruits. Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?" And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness" (Matt. 7:20-23). This being so, Jesus must have been speaking of the fruit of holiness. Since Jesus' warning was spoken within the context of His Sermon on the Mount, we are certainly warranted to judge every minister's life by the standards found there. If Christians would do that, they would quickly realize that there are thousands of false prophets and teachers today who have infiltrated the church. I do not exaggerate. Long before the revelations that ended his revival, those who applied the Matthew 5 through 7 test on Todd Bentley were not deceived by him. Additionally, if someone claims to be a minister of Christ, then what he teaches---the fruit of his lips---should also be scrutinized in the light of Scripture. Those who tested Todd Bentley's teachings with Scripture were not misled by him. Many who were troubled by certain things they heard and witnessed at the Lakeland meetings convinced themselves to overlook them, assuming that the healings were proof of God's blessing and approbation. But Jesus solemnly warned that there will be people who will prophesy, cast out demons and work miracles---all in His name---who will hear Him say, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." Does this have any application to Todd Bentley? Blushing Peter Wagner (who led the June 23rd endorsement of Bentley) recently wrote to his constituency: Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver....Todd has been removed from public ministry until further notice...It has become clear that he indulged in periodic drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna [his wife], nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Enough said---maybe more details will be revealed later---but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy.

According to the Bible that every Christian owns, no drunkard or immoral person will inherit eternal life, and all liars will find themselves in the Lake of Fire (see 1 Cor. 6:910; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5; Rev. 21:8). Unless Todd Bentley repents and is truly born again, he will be condemned at his judgment. But for now, he has been exposed to everyone as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sadly, he will be considered by many to be an anointed prophet with some personal issues who needs counseling before he is restored once again to his anointed ministry, in spite of what the Bible clearly teaches. This is tragic, and is only one more symptom of a much greater problem. In any case, don't be misled by miracles. The antichrist will perform miracles, and that is one reason the whole world will go after him. Look for holiness and obedience to Jesus' commandments. Lesson #2 A second lesson we can learn from Lakeland relates to the first. Since we should not judge the validity of a minister or a meeting by miracles and supernatural manifestations, can we thus conclude that every healing is of satanic origin that occurs under the ministry of a someone whose fruit betrays him as being a false prophet? As strange as it seems, the answer is "no." Here's the reason why: God honors His word, and if He makes conditional promises, He will keep His promises to anyone who meets His conditions, regardless of anything else. For example, it is theoretically possible that a man could be genuinely born again in a porn shop if he happened to read a gospel tract that was placed there. But because he was born again in a porn shop, does that mean that God approves of everything (or anything, for that matter) that goes on there? Obviously not. By the same token, no one can deny that Jesus often told people whom He healed that their faith healed them. And He made quite a few amazing promises that can certainly be applied by those needing healing today. That being so, here is another question: If a person gains faith to be healed in a meeting directed by a false prophet, will God deny that person his healing for that reason? Certainly not. Clearly, one of the main emphases of the Lakeland meetings was divine healing. Many came for that reason (and many left the meetings very disappointed). Sadly, Bentley used lies and exaggerated reports to build the faith of those who came seeking healing. Nevertheless, some apparently had their faith encouraged and God healed them in response to their faith. But those healing miracles were in no way a sign from God that He was endorsing the messenger or anything else that occurred at the Lakeland meetings. He was only honoring His promises---and nothing more. One important addendum can be added to this second lesson. If you are a truly God-called evangelist, it should bring you great joy to know that if God

will honor His Word spoken through a false prophet, then He will certainly honor it if spoken through a true prophet! How tragic it is that, while false prophets sometimes use God's Word to birth miracle-producing faith in people whom they then exploit, many of God's true prophets keep quiet about divine healing. Perhaps they do so in order not to be associated with the Todd Bentleys of the world today. I'm happy to report, however, that there are thousands and thousands of genuine God-called evangelists around the world who incorporate some degree of biblical and divine healing in their ministries. They know what a valuable tool it is in helping them reach the lost with the gospel. Divine healing draws people to listen to the gospel. That being so, if you are a genuine God-called evangelist---who proclaims a biblical gospel that calls people to repentance and a living faith---you have biblical reason to expect that divine healing should be a part of your ministry. If you don't believe me, read the book of Acts. An evangelist without the component of divine healing in his ministry is like a carpenter without a hammer. He's missing a tool that could make him much more successful. Actually, divine healing is not something that is just limited to the ministries of genuine evangelists. Jesus told us that one sign that will follow those who believe in Him is that they will "lay hands on the sick, and they will recover" (Mark 16:18). When I was in Nepal earlier this year, I heard from several reliable sources that the amazing growth of Christianity in that Hindu nation has been due in large part to believers healing the sick. It has become common belief in Nepal that, if you, or even one of your animals is sick, the thing to do is call for a Christian to come and pray. God has honored His promise to those who have taken Him at His Word. So let's all give ourselves a self-administered kick in the rear in this regard and start laying hands on the sick and asking God to heal them. Let's not shrink back from this only because of a few Todd Bentleys. Lesson #3 The third and final lesson is this: "Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted." This is a promise from God (see Matt. 23:12) It was obviously not God who exalted Todd Bentley, because God doesn't exalt to leadership positions within the body of Christ immoral, drunken deceivers who exalt their imaginations above His Word. It was Todd Bentley who exalted himself by various means of deception and with the help of others whom he deceived. But God is faithful to His promises. He has certainly humbled Bentley before those who adored him, deplored him, or ignored him. We pray that his humiliation leads to his repentance. But Todd Bentley was not the only self-exalted minister whom God has recently humbled. Everyone who stood on the platform on June 23rd to commission Todd Bentley is included in that list, and especially those who claimed to speak for God as they prophesied of the ever-increasing glories of the Lakeland "revival" and Bentley's

ministry. Some are now trying to save face as they back-peddle before their contributing constituents, but they are only losing their credibility to an even greater degree. What is the motive of those whom God has not called to be apostles or prophets yet who claim to be apostles and prophets? It can only be pride and self-exaltation. For this reason, thousands of ministers in North America and elsewhere are seeking titles and joining organizations like the International Coalition of Apostles (where membership dues are $650 per year). They want recognition, and so they play a more subtle version of the child's game King of the Hill. It wasn't too long ago that these self-promoters were vying only for the title of "bishop." While the Bible makes it clear that apostles are God-called and God-sent persons who make disciples and plant churches by the power of the Holy Spirit, so many of modern "apostles" have never planted a single church. But they want to have authority over churches in order to gain wealth and notoriety, and calling yourself an apostle seems to be the first step in finding gullible pastors who will become a part of your "down-line." May God have mercy. Gentlemen, if any of you are reading this, the way to avoid further humiliation and ultimate humiliation when you stand before Christ is to humble yourself, remembering that "whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant" (Matt. 20:26). God has sent all of you a merciful warning by means of the recent public humiliation of Todd Bentley and the self-anointed "apostles" and "prophets" who publicly endorsed him. You can back-peddle all you want; the fact remains that you publicly endorsed as a man of God a wolf in sheep's clothing. There were many more who are guilty of this besides just those of you who stood on the platform with Todd Bentley on June 23rd. Those who exalt themselves God will humble. In fact, as so many of you have exchanged His truth for lies---hoping to gain notoriety among your peers by your "new revelations"---God has already been publicly humiliating you before multitudes of people. "How so," you ask? God is allowing many of you to become deceived to a degree that is almost unimaginable to the saints (and the world). What so many of you believe and teach is so far from being biblical that it can only be classed as deluded mysticism: Gold dust and "Holy Spirit feathers" falling upon your followers. Gold fillings appearing in their teeth. "Third heaven visualizations." Drunken jerking. "Spiritual Mapping." "Heavenly portals," "star gates" and "open heavens." "Trance dancing." "Holy Ghost parties." Pyramid prosperity schemes. The "presence movement." Your bizarre doctrines and practices make you appear to be absolute dunderheads, and you don't even realize it. We are embarrassed for you! Is it possible that, as God humbled proud Nebuchadnezzar by giving him the mind of a beast, you are under a similar judgment? While you bask in the awe of your thousands of gullible admirers, millions sadly shake their heads at you. And it appears that you have become deluded beyond any hope of return. You have made a mockery of God's Word with your myths

and now He is making a mockery of you before the world. You have become so supernaturally imbecilic that you are completely blind to it. You have become a terrifying object lesson to any who would exalt themselves and dare to discard God's Word in favor of their own imaginations. I will leave my readers with just one small sample of what I'm speaking. Below is an advertisement found in a recent email newsletter of one of the three primary leaders of the 500 "apostles" who currently are members of the International Coalition of Apostles, a "prophet" and "apostle" named Chuck Pierce. Along with Peter Wagner, he believes that (and I quote) "the Second Apostolic Age began roughly in 2001, heralding the most radical change in the way of doing church at least since the Protestant Reformation" (from the ICA website). Here is that ad: RESOURCES TO HELP IGNITE YOU IN A NEW WAY Be Revived Anointing Oil and Candle Set Revival is in earth's atmosphere! Because the anointing breaks the yoke, we have sought the Lord on the ingredients needed for a revival fire anointing oil and candle. The first aspect of Revived is "awakening". We use costmary, an herb used by the colonists to stay alert and awake. The second ingredient we incorporate is pomegranate, representing healing, overcoming and prosperity. The third ingredient is "harvest". This is a mixture of the seven species of Israel which represent the fullness of unlocking the harvest fields. There is a boldness that God is bringing on His people to pray over others. We must come alive and be bold witnesses in this hour. Be revived and use this oil to "break the yoke" as you minister to others. Roll-on Anointing Oil $10; Candle: $12; Roll-on Anointing Oil + Candle: $20. For a sampling of Chuck Pierce's bizarre prophetic "ministry" visit http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403103165515642694 , starting around minute 44 of this 52-minute video. You'll hear some of his strange prophetic utterances. To even begin to remotely understand the concept of "singing with the planets," however, you'll have to watch the entire video. Incidentally, as favorably reported by Peter Wagner, that special "Be Revived" oil is

what was used to anoint Todd Bentley by the "apostles" at his commissioning ceremony on June 23rd. When he was touched with that special anointing oil, Bentley "went down under the power," and "the power of the Holy Spirit was so heavy on that event that you could have cut it with a knife!" reported Wagner. Two days later in Lakeland, celebrated "apostle" Che' Ahn used that same special oil to personally anoint the 1,000 or so pastors who were present to be carriers of the fire to their churches. Forty-seven nations were represented in that meeting. Wagner also recently reported that, although "Lakeland 1" is over, "Lakeland 2" has just begun.

Todd Bentley is Ba-a-a-ck!!!

Thanks to Geoffrey who let me know about this new development. Todd Bentley is back! Well back in the world of Myspace. The disgraced conference speaker now has a new myspace page at http://www.myspace.com/imtoddbentley All links towards Fresh Fire Ministries are removed and books and CDS, the earthly treasures of the Prophetic Movement, are now plugged. And you no longer need Fresh Fire to supply them. The sales now are directed through Sound of Fire Productions of which Todd claims to be the company president of, also linked to Todd Bentleys dad, Dave Bentley and his step mum, Darcia Bentley. The new Todd Bentley myspace page only started on 16th December 2008. Youll note the continued lies about his being a healer and miracle worker on there and his use of the present tense to describe his ministry. It also certainly takes some nerve to write this about himself: He was also delivered from a lifestyle involving criminal activity, youth prisons, drugs, sex, satanic music and bondage. Todds miraculous conversion to Jesus was much like the Apostle Pauls on the Damascus road. Todd was instantly transformed into a radical disciple and soul winning evangelist for Jesus. When was Todd Bentley supposedly delivered of criminal activity exactly? The guy is a patholigical liar who has repeatedly deceived and fleeced and defrauded the flock. Demonic music is still promoted by him and even playing on his site! As for sex, well we all know of his current unrepented-of adulterous behaviour with the ex family nanny and Fresh Fire intern, Jessa {see http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/12/31/todd-bentleys-mistress-jessarevealed/]. This behaviour is his being a radical disciple? And to equate himself with the apostle Paul wow.

Todd Bentley lists himself as single and as California based. Bill Johnson, Heidi Baker and Rick Joyner are listed as his spiritual heros. Word of Faith Heretics Kenneth Hagin, E W Kenyon and Benny Hinn books are declared by him as good. The only restoration spoken of is in some bad dominionist type teaching of restoration of another kind on his blog here. I am not surprised Todd Bentley is attempting a comeback without acknowledgement, let alone repentence, for his many wrongs. I am not surprised he is still lying and is, if anything, even worse than before. What I am a little surprised by though is the amount of people who still openly support this unrepentent liar and adulterer. I could not see how to find out all who his 83 myspace friends to date are. But along with the other woman, Jessa, here are some of the other well known names recently signed on as his friends.

Rick Pino of Fire Rain Ministries (worship leader) Shawn Bolz (prophetic) Catherine Mullins (worship leader) James Levesque, Fresh Fire associate Sharnael Wolverton Graeme Campbell (musician)

Update Todd Bentley has also a new Facebook page http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/todd-bentley-is-back-part-2-now-alsoon-facebook/

Todd Bentleys Mistress, Jessa, Revealed

The third picture of a friend currently on Todd Bentleys new Myspace website [new as of 16th December here - see the post http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/toddbentley-is-ba-a-a-ck/ for details about this site] is of someone called Jessa. If you click on her name there, it takes you to Ravishmyhearts Myspace profile *~*Jessa*~* I just had the best christmas!!!!

Take the world but give me You!!!Female 25 years old sacramento, California United StatesLast Login: 26/12/2008 Mood: excited I suspected by the pictures prominence that this Jessa may well be the elusive former live-in nanny and Fresh Fire intern that Todd Bentley did more than holding hands with at Lakeland, so I did a bit of googling and found this information posted by former NAR apostle Robert Ricciardelli that confirms that Jessa is indeed the lady and more than this, the adulterous affair between Todd and Jessa precedes Lakeland by at least three months. Robert Ricciardelli says on 19th September 2008 here Todd has been together with Jessa since January. [eg long before Lakeland started in April, so none of the excuses about Todd Bentley being burned out by Lakeland's heavy schedule, affected detrimentally by the "addictive anointing" there, being led astray by younger team members in Florida when far away from family in another land, or the most popular one, the being under demonic attack from the Lakeland critics, cut it. {These excuses did not cut it before anyway, they were even then full of obvious blatant lies and contradictions, but this new information makes even more of a mockery of them] .] On 22 September on the same blog Robert Ricciardelli says: Todd has been having an affair with Jessa for over 7 months and this has been confirmed many times over, and he still is in it. Robert Ricciardelli also indicates that some NAR leaders knew about this affair this year some time before it was exposed, as well as about the previous adulterous affair in 2005/2006. {See Ricciardellis clarification in the comments section below]. During the previous sabbatical, lying leaders lied and/or allowed Todd and other leaders to lie unchecked, and to add insult to injury helped cover up. They then claimed that the ludicrously short few months taken off then by Todd was for a sabbatical break for health reasons alone and even directly denied there had been an affair. That is some NAR leaders barefaced lied to the public. {See here for Todd and Shonnah Bentleys claims, and Bill Johnson, Bobby Conner, Paul Keith Davis and Denny Clines statements from that time in 2006,

as well as a link to the contradictory statement from Bill Johnson in August 2008 in the same article. Be sure, your sins will find you out, Bill Johnson and others.] Look too at this lying photo from the Fresh Fire website from 2006 to see how the Todd Bentley break and subsequent return was spun then by Todd and Fresh Fire .

Saint Todd, eh? All that is missing from the picture is a halo. If you had not already realised it, lying is a way of life for many of these folk and has been for years. Todd Bentley isnt the only deliberate persistant liar and deceiver. If only he were! The NAR is dark as can be. And Todds still at it now lying and cheating [in more ways than one]. Why was Todd Bentleys open secret, his affair, the tolerated depravity behind the scenes, then made public this time around wheras before it was not? Because it suited the NAR. The public revelation this time aided their deception because it was covering up after themselves. Far from losing anything, they gained by exposing it. The NAR leaders hung Todd Bentley out to dry with some sensational revelations as I prophesied they would do, after Todd fell at his height, which I prophesied he would do, with two major hammer blows to the Lakeland tent to bring it crashing down that I prophesied would happen. And neither of those two blows was the actual affair! The two blows were Wendy Alecs false prophecy that Jesus would appear on stage at Lakeland when Todd Bentley lost a lot of credibility even among his devoted followers, and the ABC Nightline documentary revealing there were zero medically documented healings. Todd Bentley had already fallen and already been exposed and disgraced as a liar and charlatan when the NAR came out with news of his adultery and drinking. The NAR leaders did this in a master PR stroke to save their own lying behinds, and to save their own lying revival with its lying manifestations. It took the heat off them, stopped the right questions being asked about what really went on at Lakeland, and did what it was supposed to do. Deceive. For what is remembered today by many folk about Lakelands end? The lying and the lack of real miracles, or the adulterous affair and the drinking? Do they have an image in their minds of a brazen liar and charlatan and heretic at a lying and false revival who could not give a hoot about anyone or anything but himself, or of the painted image of an allegedly broken but anointed man with the heart of David being restored by spiritual fathers after a true revival? What spin and what intentional deceit! Ask many people today, even those that were deeply involved with Lakeland and who should remember accurately, Why did Todd Bentley fall and the Lakeland Outpouring end? and many will now respond, because of his adulterous affair. Wrong! Thats what the NAR want you to think but it is not the actual truth. As Nazi propagadist Goebels said, say a thing often enough

and people will believe it. But whatever is spun, whatever is said, in truth Lakeland and Todd Bentley fell long before news of the adultery broke. Lakeland and Bentley both fell because of all the lies. There was shown to be no documented healings and miracles and Todd Bentley had been exposed numerously on this blog and others as a long-term pathological liar as were his cohorts. People were beginning to see through the spiritual manifestations and prophecies that accompanied Lakeland and Toronto for what they actually were lying ones, that could not possibly originate from God. The NAR could not have that revelation thats their everyday bread and butter of how they and their demons seduce and poison a huge part of the church. If that goes then well, frankly a lot of deception goes with it. The blinkers come off. And the NAR do not want that. Lakeland and Bentley had already fallen when the NAR apostles implemented the stunningly deceptive PR plan of spinning history differently. That way Lakeland and its lying manifestations, lying prophets, lying apostles and lying agenda gets saved. Even Todd Bentley. As Todd Bentley can be restored for adultery alone by the NAR within just a matter of months if that is what is wrongly remembered [even though he is not repentent and still with his fancy woman, Jessa - and even if he were genuinely repentent and back with his wife Shonnah and his children and had nothing else wrong with him, true restoration to leadership should take YEARS]. And all with everything else such as the numerous lies and charlatanism ignored as the history of Lakeland has been completely rewritten by the NAR spin doctors. Deceiving on and cheating a wife and family is far more understandable and forgiveable by the modern American church and media than deceiving and cheating the flock. The latter is unthinkable for some in the church. It is an inconvenient truth that folk want to bury even by deceiving themselves - for it exposes the emptiness of modern sensation based, experienceled, feelings-based relationships with God and just how much is built on the sands of deceit and not reality. So this latest affair was revealed by the NAR for none of the right reasons and all of the wrong ones. Anyway, back to the adulteress Jessa. Her full Myspace profile and blog is private, but this is what we can see of it here: http://profile.myspace.com/ravishmyheart (I think more than your heart has been ravished, love.) Jessa says on the page, I just had the best Christmas and describes her mood as excited. [Todd on the other hand is just 'happy'. He also describes himself as single]. What? The best Christmas? By having sex with another womans husband andpossibly jointly living off Todd Bentleys ill-gotten profits from deception? Im glad your conscience didnt trouble you too much to spoil this holiday season for you, Jessa! Just what did Fresh Fire teach you, Jessa, during your internship with them? {It seems catching anyway, whatever it is, as at least one other lady working for the ministry previously

succumbed and also had an affair with Todd Bentley.] Did nobody teach you to keep your underwear up, especially around married men? What prophetic nothings did Todd Bentley whisper in your ear to get you into bed that his wife did not understand the third heaven like you did?! Sure, Todd abused his leadership position, his power, fame and influence. But you too, surely know better. It takes two to tango. You too are accountable. You too need to repent for your sin. You too need to be restored if you want to minister anywhere. And that is not just for adultery in this case. Exactly what did they teach you on your Fresh Fire internship? How to ignore scripture, endorse and promote lawlessness, have sex with your married leader, not be repentent about it. and watch your evangelist lover deliberately lie to and fleece millions? What kind of anointing did you think it was that lied, and was lied about? And what kind of God? Or did you even care? When you saw Todd brazenly lie to millions, what went through your mind? Warning signs or dollar signs? Todd said numerously at Lakeland that his marriage had been miraculously restored/healed. That he had been given instant holiness and so on and so on. And Jessa knew this was utter rubbish, and along with other corrupt and corrupting leaders stood quietly watching on, supporting him, letting him lie while sharing his bed. This is despicable. There was a video showing Todd shamelessly use his wife and children on stage, months into the affair with Jessa - see here: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/tragicvideo-of-todd-bentley-shonnah-bentley-and-children/ where it claims it is a night to heal families as his family has been healed. Shonnah Bentley manifests on cue on stage, while she has a little drink of the anointing in the air that night - what exactly was she and the Lakeland manifestations testifying to but utter lies? This is surely not the Spirit of God at work! Another video from Todd Bentleys commissioning service in June shows Todd and Shonnah playing happy families, then when Shonnah Bentley is being slain in the spirit, she is looking at Todd while going down for a cue. There is a very telling expression on her face while she goes down. Yes Shonnah too lied, Jessa. And she too is accountable for it. But that doesnt get you off the hook. Updates 3rd January Another picture of Jessa from Wes Rodericks site here. [Thanks to Jeremy for spotting it.]

This definitely seems to be the girl seen holding the mic for Todd in the Lakeland baptismal videos. I remember spotting this woman on stage at the Lakeland baptism farce back in July [see here http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/mass-sheeka-boom-ba-in-thename-of-the-father-uh-the-son-and-the-bam/ for why it was such a farce] and was disturbed then by the way she rather cockily interacted with Todd raising a suspicion in my mind then what was going on between them. This was before news broke of the adultery. See her here on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzvALjANuc and look also at her manifest here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e5JQCVLWkw at around the 4.20 minutes mark. She may well be on other Lakeland videos too.

{still shot thanks to the blogger Beyond Grace] Update 10th January 2009 Confirmation from both Dave Bentley and Todd Bentley that Jessa is indeed the name of Todds new partner.

See here for this extra confirmation Todd Bentley letter to Rick Joyner and Dave Bentley Letter to Rick Joyner ___________________ See also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/todd-bentley-says-his-adultery-wastoo-soon-and-more-gems/ http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/the-anointings-bad-for-you-excusesfrom-fresh-fire-directors-re-lakeland-revival-todd-bentley-affair/ http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/god-tv-wendy-alec-concerningcourageous-martyr-todd-bentley-laying-down-his-life/

167 Comments
1. I remember spotting this woman on stage at the Lakeland baptism farce back in July [see

here http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/mass-sheeka-boom-bain-the-name-of-the-father-uh-the-son-and-the-bam/ for why it was a farce] and was disturbed then by the way she rather cockily interacted with Todd raising a suspicion in my mind then what was going on between them. This was before news broke of the adultery. Is this Jessa holding the mic at the Lakeland baptism? It really looks like her although I am not 100% sure it is one and the same lady.
1. Look also at her manifest here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e5JQCVLWkw at

around 4.20 mins. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | December 31, 2008 2. This entire thing with Todd,just makes me sick..sexual sins are indeed out of control in the church today. Covering it up makes it even worse.. Comment by Lela | December 31, 2008 3. Its the same person, and the very same images came to my mind. With this Lady being a Spiritual daughter, then Todds action is Spiritual Incest. Comment by Avshalom | December 31, 2008

4. Way to break the news Miriam. I think this poor girl must be blind, deaf and have all her taste in her mouth, but thats just my opinion!! Todd is a gross looking person and creepy to boot! Unfortunately, what you say is correct. Lakeland and Todd turned into a spin job by the NAR and others who threw Todd under the bus to save their own butts. I lost what little respect I had for a lot of people this past summer! Hope you have a happy new year! Joanne Comment by truthspeaker | December 31, 2008 5. Yes all these liars who supported Todd Bentley are not only a partaker of his sins but are going to be in hell because Jesus Christ is not a liar! RV 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Comment by Susan | December 31, 2008 6. It is really abusive of his power and charisma, that is for sure. The women were likely spiritually abused and played. BUT at the same time they still have accountability for their actions and know basic right from wrong. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | December 31, 2008 7. Ok, I just went over to Todds myspace page and read his bio. Hes making a bid to be back in the ministry.. He says this (Notice the use of the present tense!!): Todd Bentley is an international speaker, author, and evangelist called to global harvest. Todd Bentley and his team take Gods saving, healing and delivering power to the nations. Todd travels throughout North America , sparking revival fire and equipping the body in power evangelism and healing Ministry. As well, Todd and his team conduct many healing crusades throughout Africa , India , South America , Europe and beyond. Over one million decisions for Christ have been made in more than 65 countries. Not only is this a lie he currently has NO team and is NOT in the ministry (who in their right mind would have him come?) BUT he also has the most demonic music playing on his page that I couldnt get off of it fast enough!

Guess we just have to keep exposing these fakes and frauds cause they keep coming back like cancer! What a liar! Joanne Comment by truthspeaker | December 31, 2008 8. See also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/todd-bentley-is-ba-a-a-ck/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009
9. Heres a quick FYI for anyone who clicks on the provided link to see the statement made

by Robert Ricciardelli (Todd has been together with Jessa since January.). His statement is not in the article itself, but in comment #106237 below the article, here: http://www.qaya.org/blog/?p=698#comment-106237. His other comment (Todd has been having an affair with Jessa for over 7 months and this has been confirmed many times over, and he still is in it.) is found here: http://www.qaya.org/blog/?p=710#comment-107951. Comment by Adam Minneapolis | January 1, 2009
10. More info: If you check Jessas photographers website (at the very bottom of her pic);

youll see that the photographer is located in Abbottsville, BC..although Jessas location is CA. http://www.laramerzphotography.com/contact.html Comment by Marsha | January 1, 2009 11. Whoever wrote this blogger is mixing some of my comments with his own. I never said this.. Robert Ricciardelli also indicates that some NAR leaders knew about this affair this year before it was exposed, as well as about the previous adulterous affair in 2005/2006. Then lying leaders lied and/or allowed Todd and other leaders to lie unchecked, and to add insult to injury helped cover up. Most of not all of them did not know about this. ? But when we tried to alert a few of them of this, they were slow to investigate the allegations. By then though, Todd had exposed it to a few friends and his board found out about it. Comment by Robert Ricciardelli | January 1, 2009

12. If he was having the affair from Jan 08 forward then everyone who was baptized that night needs to receive ministry and get baptized by a true minister. One can only imagine what kind of sick twisted spirits he imparted Comment by Javanut | January 1, 2009 13. Is she a Pinay? Nice Happy New year to all.. Comment by healthtips | January 1, 2009 14. Marsha That would make sense if she were based in Abbotsville for a while as an intern. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 15. Based in Abbotsford before Lakeland. Relocated and help head Todds new office in Lakeland under the banner of Fresh Fire Ministries. If these Interns really wanted a hands on training they would have went to Todd and if he rejected the correction exposed it on the stage and on the God TV Satellite Platform. Comment by Avshalom | January 1, 2009 16. Avshalom Based in Abbotsford before Lakeland. Relocated and help head Todds new office in Lakeland under the banner of Fresh Fire Ministries. What, Jessa did? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 17. I believe so. Most of the Canadian Team from what I understand were still operating daily from the Head Office in Abbotsford. The interns were in Lakeland. Lakeland basically became the base for the Fresh Fire Interns. There training ground were the Lakeland meetings. And off course David Tomberline was involved alot with Todd and I would guess though I dont know that he spent more time with Todd than any other senior leader. Again I dont know the specific of Jessas tasks it could of been anything, catcher, admin, preparing his protien shakes before he wrestles. Anything but Todd was a loose man away from his team that had served him for 10 years or so and now operating with his sons and daughters, with the odd assicate dropping by requesting to take the stage and get there name out there. Which indeed worked!

Comment by Avshalom | January 1, 2009 18. I think all the people who have let Bentley lay his hands on them, should repent and ask for prayer to be cleansed from the evil influence. Comment by Ruitje | January 1, 2009 19. Robert Ricciardelli Thanks very much for the clarification. My understanding was based on previous comments of yours over the last few months about Lakeland leadership cover-ups and feet-dragging etc, and not just on what you had written on the specific blog I linked to above. I certainly was not claiming that you had said that all in the NAR leadership knew about Todds adulterous behaviour this time around. Nor was I trying to suggest that you were saying that all of those that eventually knew before it was disclosed to the world, knew right away from when it first happened according to you from January 2008. (How do you know it was from this date?) But it is clear some in the know did know and kept quiet for far too long, and when it was eventually revealed it was revealed for the wrong reasons. And just one person covering up is one too many! And of course it was not just the adultery that was being covered over. At what point did you learn about Jessa and Todds adulterous behaviour and how? And when and whom did you alert about it? Who is the few you alerted and who is the we that informed than along with yourself? How slow is slow in terms of a timeline? And at what point did the Fresh Fire board find out? I would appreciate as much clarification that you could give on Lakeland as possible and not just the Jessa affair. I know there is more to come out. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 20. Yes I agree Ruitje. But not just Bentley. Patrica King, Bob Jones, Ryan Wyatt.the list goes on. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009
21. You are right. Maybe the whole list of names you have on the right

Comment by Ruitje | January 1, 2009 22. I agree with Robert Ricciardellis previous comments on Lakeland but also agree with Miriams ideas here on ETPW

That the truth about what so called leaders knew what and when about Todd Bentley. Dear Mr. Ricciardelli: I am not sure if you understand from the point of view of the flock how important it is that you reveal things that the leaders would like to have covered up. Salvation is at stake For example, on June 2nd, my former pastor said during the service (he had just come back from Lakeland) that anyone who doubted the signs and miracles out of Lakeland was in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He did say that. And it is on tape. Does everyone realize how important it is to settle once and for all that Lakeland was a farce of the Devil? A good tree cannot produce bad fruit/a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. Please RR, come out with the whole story. So many souls are at stake. Your own position in this could be a determining factor for many souls caught up in the Delusion who believe they are going to Heaven. Yes, I am saying that those in the NAR are not saved, no matter how sincere they may be. They are preaching another Christ, the Bob Jones Jesus of Branham. Covering up for these sincere deceivers is still a sin. And another question for Mr. Ricadellii why do these people think that being an Old Testament Prophet under the New Covenant (an impossibility) means they deserve to be paid for it as if they were traveling evangelists? Id like a full accounting of those monies fleeced from the flock at Lakeland. It was reported Bentley bought a house in Lakeland for half a million bucks. This is despicable. Funny, that no one but David Wilkerson and Miriam (or small prophetic voices like mine in small group settings) were told by the Lord about the coming financial meltdown. The NAR was too busy covering up their sins at Lakeland to hear anything of any truth about what happened this fall. False prophets need to be exposed. Please do so, Mr. RR. Comment by AriseMyLove | January 1, 2009 23. Just a little remark. At the videolink given by etpw 1st.posting, (The super amazing water baptism video of Lakeland) you will see the horned hand sign coming up to the screen. Its around 0:45,. Hmmm, maybe this was a real sign of the real influence at Lakeland? Comment by WatEenZooitje | January 1, 2009

24. @WatEenZooirje: Wow, I didnt notice that before on the video. I think youre right, it was a real sign of the real influence. When I once watched on God-tv a Lakeland sermon, Bentley was wearing a shirt with a demonic monster on it. I made a screendump of that shirt. Comment by Ruitje | January 1, 2009 25. Ruitje and WatEenZooirje To be fair, although I agree that Todd Bentley is dark and satanic, I am not sure if we can blame or judge anyone for holding the same beliefs as an individual member of their audience does that is caught on camera? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 26. You are right, but it says something about the public Comment by Ruitje | January 1, 2009 27. See someone ministering with John Crowder do the horned salute here in this video http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/john-crowder-on-what-theanointing-of-heavy-drunken-glory-does-to-him/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 28. I responded to someone on that post who said that it was also a sign of the University of Texas Longhorn I am well aware that the horned salute is a american sports sign for longhorns (I have even seen it on cartoons like King of the Hill) BUT also undeniably the symbol it is used by occultists and satanists too. Just because it could be an innocent sport symbol does not mean it cannot be an unsincere occultic one, does it? Regardless, why would this guy use such a sign when about to lay hands on to pray? Was he watching sport at the time: go longhorns or doing something spiritual? What is its context? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 29. Ruitje >> it says something about the public Oh yes! and indeed possibly the environment.

Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 30. Ref. Todd B. and the horned salute there was a video in which I saw TB himself give such a salute, and I linked to it on my blog. However, I just went to look it up and it said the video was removed due to terms of service violation. The image of this salute from the video was also shown on a website in Germany, and I believe I linked to that web page in the comments section here back in August, when I was asking about a translation. I do have a copy of the German web page, but unfortunately the jpg of TB giving the salute wasnt saved with the html. Since TB had made the salute with his right hand, Id mentioned that in my blog post, and heres a comment someone (anonymous) added: More info on left vs right: http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bush_inauguration_illuminati_hand_sign.htm The first image Represents the horned god of witchcraft. Pan or Cernunnos. Note the thumb under the fingers and given by the right hand. The next image is a sign of recognition between those in the Occult. When pointed at someone it is meant to place a curse. Note the thumb over the fingers and given by the left hand. So it says something about more than just the public at the TB gathering. I think that the devil was having a field day, using the gullibility and lack of discernment among so many Christians. Comment by Cia Watson | January 1, 2009 31. Cia Yes, I recall a number of times people pointed out videos of where Todd had apparently done this hand symbol on stage in full view. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 1, 2009 32. Its a mazing how satan manipulates the emotions of those who otherwise would have never given each other the time of day, all in the name of blaspheming Jesus Christ. This was just one of many assignments of the devil in that ministry. But.. the flesh was willing. Comment by justabeliever | January 2, 2009 33. >Is this Jessa holding the mic at the Lakeland baptism?

Check out the prominent canines a.k.a. eye teeth. Comment by Bill Fawcett | January 2, 2009 34. You know, as it is the first day of the year, I have to pipe in that I am just SICK of the coverup of Todd Bentley. I never personally cared about Todd Bentley one way or another. I knew he was off when I saw him back in 2005 and wrote in disgust to my pastors about him and made it known then that this guy was not mature nor really even Christian. When Lakeland happened, I was much more concerned about the higher ups in the NAR movement that sponsored and blessed and anointed Todd Berntley. It was obvious to me at that time that Bentley was deceived and I asked my former church to be praying for him. That he still stimulates any discussion that he might be a Christian or that there is some possibility that the NAR leaders behind him are Christians absolutely galls me. We have no time for quibbling with what has been revealed: this is the End Time Delusion of the Church. Miriam saw it and did what God told her to do. Anyone who is still on the fence with this? Personally I have NO TIME for them. I will be happy to minister to the wounded of the NAR and the scattered sheep of Lakeland but any leader like Ricardidelli or Frangipange or even Jack Hayford those that know the truth about Rick Warren, about Wagner, about Bentley and will NOT expose these leaders for fear of recrimination they are worse than the ones who need exposing. The Lord God will hold these liars of NAR to terrible account. And they are so deceived they believe being in the Joel 2 army that God sends in as the locust against the true church they believe this is a good thing. They are so deluded they dont even realize God has given them over to their false ideas of strategic spiritual warfare praying against principalities making declarations and re aligning the heavenlies is WITCHCRAFT. I have no more tolerance for these liars. We are to flee evil and also flee Babylon. The NAR is the network for the AntiCHrist, and it looks like Rick Warren is their ringleader. I am sick of it and sick or arguing or quibbling about it. WHERE ARE THE TRUE SAINTS OF GOD? THE COURAGEOUS ONES OF THE SPIRIT? Who are willing to lay down their life for the Cross and the TRUTH of the Word?

Where are they? The NAR makes cowards of people and I dont want that fearful infection on me. They are evil and ill-winds of Jezebel. It is sickening that the church has had this blight of Lakeland while we should have been banding together in prayer for the coming financial holocaust. The Lord has told me over and over again He has to judge and judgment is coming. It is coming on these liars in the form of delusion. I want no part of explaining to people anymore to those with one foot in and one foot out of the Apostolic Prophetic cult. If it isnt obvious to these people by now, it never will be. I encourage Frangipange and Riccaridelli to step up to the plate and unmask the deception. These men are in SIN as long as they tolerate the Jezebel of false teaching and demonic false prophecy. Will they? I pray they do. Their own salvation is at stake and they will spare many from Hell if they do according to the Will and Word of our Lord Jesus concerning the NAR. Comment by AriseMyLove | January 2, 2009 35. Hey Miriam want to see how heaven looks like? Yes? Good! Now hold your breath till Robert Ricciardelli responds to all your questions. He is a fox wearing a deputys badge. I cant stand the site of him nor do i have any respect for him nor does he merit my respect. Comment by Naxus | January 2, 2009 36. My hero Robert was among them during this whole fiasco and had privileged information he himself admits. During this time he never exposed the witch craft that was going on in Lakeland or the insane things that our convicted pedophile friend Todd was doing like kicking little old ladies in the face in Jesus name in Gods church. He saw that the Todd fiasco was coming to an end and what did my hero do. He brushed the responsibility off his shoulders and climbed the ladder by declaring what a wonderful police officer he is in the church and made some exposure about Todds shenanigans-which by the way were already mentioned by bloggers who do not gain monies. And rebounded from this fiasco as a good guy and gained credibility. So if he is a good guy why isnt he exposing Patricia King Rick Joyner Dutch Sheets and my buddy John Arnott and his buddy Steve Strang the voice of the church???????? You cant have 2 masters ! This matter stinks to high heaven. Comment by Naxus | January 2, 2009 37. P.S. How much does anyone want to bet that Jessa calls herself a prophetess? BTW what a ludicrous thing to say Take the world but give me You on her myspace. Huh?

Is this some inversion of the verse what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul? Methinks, yes. These people are nuts. Comment by AriseMyLove | January 2, 2009 38. @AriseMyLove: I totally agree with you. Comment by Ruitje | January 2, 2009 39. Robert, it is good to hear from you again in the comments above. You made the comment quoted in this post on my blog in September but refused to provide any kind of evidence of this. As such it is an unsubstantiated rumour or gossip which should not be spread. I note that in Romans 1:29-30 etc gossip is listed together with sexual immorality as serious sin. Are you now prepared to provide any evidence that Todd has been together with and having an affair with this Jessa since last January? Or would you like to distance yourself from these comments as well, on the basis that they are either unsubstantiated rumour or else private information which you had no right to make public? Comment by Peter Kirk | January 2, 2009 40. Beware of false prophets and keep up the good work in 2009 Comment by Dave Bromley | January 2, 2009 41. Jessa is living a life of a groupie and she will be thrown aside when Todds lust for another is fulfilled Jessa was the nanny for 2 years and this means that she does not have feelings for what the children are going through and that they feel abandoned by daddyObviously Jessa has picked up some of Todds demonsYou cannot be intimate with a demonized person without it effecting you. Comment by warrior daughter | January 2, 2009 42. These things are very common in the churches today. Lust and adultry abound! This is one of the reasons God said, come out from among them. The woman are dressing to seduce Just go down to your local church and look at the tight lowcut clothing. Comment by Susie R. | January 2, 2009 43. You have to feel somewhat sorry for Jessa. She pays big $ to staff with Todd Bentley, hoping G_d will launch her to the nations only to end up being raped by Satan. Few years from now she will be questioning G_d on why it all went wrong.

If I was a parent and I would be furious at my daughter ending up with a instrument of Satan! The whole is enough to put anyone off making plans for Ministry Training. From David Tomberline to Ken Greter to Robert Ricciardelli to Bill Johnson on and on, all you guys grouped round in a circle watching the violation and you did nothing. Not one of yous can be nor should be trusted. Your all busy trying to save your own reputations, plugging your trash out weekly to the Elijah List (And juding by the archive of Prophetic Words its clear that your voices are getting weaker) lining up with each other for another so-called life changing conference with the same people attending. You guys have not become anything like the mature church that you all prophesie year after year. Comment by Avshalom | January 2, 2009 44. @ Susie R Very True. Amzing how the NAR always quote William Branham yet he used to say that a lady that walks down the street in shorts has a filthy spirit and is a instrument of Satan. Now people dress in all manners because the so-called prophets tell them that the endtime church is so radical they will look like there rebellion against conservative dressing. Watch Benny Hinn and see that his close staff, are all men. Thats because Benny Hinn understand that he is a married man. Todd Bentley had plenty of females on his staff especially his female internsin Florida, all seen lounging about with him. As we draw near the endof the present age, Seductive Spirits are being released. In the place of ministry interaction should be done in a Godly manner. Not only fallen sexual sin can be a result but accusation. Comment by Avshalom | January 2, 2009 45. See updates edited into the bottom of the post including a new photo. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 3, 2009
46. LARA MERZ PHOTOGRAPHY [Abbotsford based, who did the pic of Jessa on

Myspace] did photos at the Lakeland Revival and sold them among other places to here: http://www.christianweek.org/stories.php?id=171 There is also a Lara Merz photo of Todd and someone else, a Jerad I think, on Todds Facebook page. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 3, 2009 47. The picture added was taken with interns and at least 1 staff member way before Lakeland, and when these guys were based in Abbotsford.

Now it looks like Jessa has spent a few pounds on makeup for Todd. I think to be honest the picture should be removed on behalf of at least one staff member for privacy. This was I believe a day out to New York without Todd. Comment by Avshalom | January 3, 2009 48. But Avshalom this picture is publicaly on the web anyway at Wes Rodericks site? It is not private. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 3, 2009 49. This article is starting to remind me of the censorship the NAR use on there own sites. Comment by Avshalom | January 4, 2009 50. Avshalom Because your comments are not immediately moderated right away as you post them, you accuse me of censorship?! Your criticism has been posted openly and has been read, noted and pondered. I disagree with your view and have given my reasons so whats your problem?! Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009 51. Not to get on your case, by where did my 2 comments go? The one spoke about Branham, his doctines, and how TB and others ascribe to them. How is that wrong? The other was totally short and just facts off the FF website. I read just above, about Branham. I read just above, about J being raped by Satan. (which does seem a bit illogical) J. is in adultry. She is a house-wrecker, is whoring herself, and is brainwashed into believing doctrines of the devil. Those are facts. We should stick close to them Not voicing malicious opinions. I hope to receive your reply. Meanwhile, still on the FF website is: (copied)

In light of our lack of communication, some of you have felt the need to withdraw your partnership with Fresh Fire Ministries; we completely understand and both release you If ANY Ministry is so brainwashing and controlling that your soul belongs to them and they MUST Release you, GET OUT!!! They are a CULT. And yes, i call FreshFire ministry a cult. The facts say so. Any questions? (-: ps. Deprogrammers are available. Comment by randy | January 4, 2009 52. Randy I am not sure which 2 comments you are referring to, there is one comment posted here by you: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/todd-bentley-is-ba-aa-ck/ I do not have anything else from you left to moderate, nor have I deleted anything from you, nor have I an issue with what you have posted, nor have I seen anything else so perhaps there is an error and/or a few comments are going missing in cyberspace, I do not know. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009 53. Ahh. Likey right. Cyberspace does eat my post at times. Thanks. I shall re-post. and add. I brought to light last year, the fact that Todd Bentley supported and endorsed POT SMOKING. A credible friend, who testifies regularly in a court of law, witnessed Todd telling his father it was OK to smoke pot, on his break from the sales table. Which he did. Fact. Many of Todds peers have also confirmed Todds drinking alcohol, and getting drunk. Fact.

Todds adultry is openly confirmed by FreshFire ministry. Fact. Yet people still try to defend Todd. peter kirk defended Todd, saying: None of it ($$$), beyond his salary and expenses, would have gone to Todd personally. OH!! And just what facts do you have to substantiate your assumption pk? I strongly disagree with your words. For years Todd Bentley has had people stuffing $$$ into his pockets, and giving him the pentecostal handshake. Fact, not fiction, should be written. I personally know of these two events happening. I encourage all people who have given to Todd Bentley or FreshFire Ministries, who have NOT received a tax receipt, to report their giving to: Revenue Canada or the IRS. Unreported income is illegal and criminal. This is not just $20.00 dollars here and $100.00 dollars there. Many, many people have given their hard earned money to this con-artist and not received a receipt. (I know of 6) This is substancial Fraud! So let justice be done. Other facts are: copied from Fresh Fire website, 1. Fresh Fire Ministries Todd Bentley has demonstrated himself unfaithful to his wife by entering into a relationship with another woman while still legally married. 2. In light of our lack of communication, some of you have felt the need to withdraw your partnership with Fresh Fire Ministries; we completely understand and (release you) Fresh Fire is still a cult. Good for them for the promo denouncing Todd Bentley. Bad for them for brainwashing people into believing that Fresh Fire Ministries must

release them, or they are in rebellion and sin. What a blantent and cultish control mechanism. Todd Bentley and Freshfire ministries are still a cult, and are still very dangerous. Dont forget the FFM post that God did NOT inspire the Bible (contrary to 2 Tim 3:16) And that Morningstar Ministries personally emailed me the same belief. Both ministries are deeply a cult and will never change. All we can do is continue to warn everyone. God bless all who do. Most seem to agree that Jessa is the other woman. Can we establish that as fact now? Guard your hearts. Guard your money. Serve the Savior of your soul, Our Lord, Jesus. ps ReadtheWordReadtheWordReadtheWord! Comment by randy | January 4, 2009 54. Benny Hill,uh i mean Hinn is a Knight of Malta. He makes me ill just thinking about him. I miss Benny Hills comedies. If Benny Hinn is going to blow 10 000 dollars a night for a hotel room why doesnt he just use some of that money for a decent hair transplant. Oh well he probably spends 10 thousand a yr. just on hairspray alone to cover his baldness. Comment by Naxus | January 4, 2009 55. >> Cyberspace does eat my post at times.

A number of people have reported posts going missing, especially in the past few days, and I certainly have not seen them. so I do not know what is going on there Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009 56. In Canada report Todd Bentley suspected tax evasion:

Tel.: 1-866-846-3535 (toll free) Fax: 1-250-470-5060 Mail: Southern Interior Tax Services Office (KEL) Pacific Region Informant Leads Centre c/o: 9755 King George Highway Surrey BC V3T 5E1 Having sat in his audience while Mr. Bentley talked up the blessing of giving to his work, I suspect that he would still receive what he calls Pentecostal handshakes, and still have people sticking money into his pockets as he talks, to get the particular blessing from God that he is speaking about at that moment. I saw this happen. He could get donations without having to issue receipts. So, perhaps he might prefer not having to answer to tax authorities at all. Comment by brad | January 4, 2009 57. FYI have vou read this article? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/3407882/Chil d-witches-of-Nigeria-seek-refuge.html Comment by Earl | January 4, 2009 58. Earl Yes thanks I have, it is awful and there are several articles on this subject on the site under witch children category. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009
59. Check out http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/todd-bentley-hasnt-

learned-a-thing/ Todd Bentley hasnt learned a thing Comment by brad | January 4, 2009 60. No, he hasnt. If he knew anything about the God he professes to love, hed immediately repent of his adultery, go back to his wife and family and begin the work of healing his house. If he ever read the Bible, Gods real word, hed know that his supposed Master hates divorce and he wouldnt do anything like that, now, would he? For all those who would defend him with statements that refer to healings and decisions for Christ, just think of how many were false and the many millions who will now no longer listen to Christs words because of charlatans like Todd and his ilk. And please, none of this

touch not the Lords anointed nonsense. We need to lift the bar of standards with respect to Christian leadership, not make excuses for these TV front men who will do anything to raise their rankings and get more money. Repent, Todd, before its too late! Comment by atco1962 | January 4, 2009
61. Maybe that is what happened to a recent comment of mine. The first part and last part

was accepted, but the middle part disappeared when I submitted it. No problem except it did not make a lot of sense. ) DONT SAY IT MIRIAM whats new? Comment by Sylvia | January 4, 2009 62. Sylvia Weird, if that ever happens just resubmit til it works ok! Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009
63. Yes, this was all wrong, but, do you think this is doing good? I already know, that the

Lord has taken the spiritual authority away from every one who was on that apostolic commissioning team away. But, God, who had people like Jeremiah, is leaving a way out. Repentance. My goodness, there is no mountain, whether it is man or woman, full of demonic manipulation, that can not be moved and cast into the sea. But, dont you see all of those young faces, and do you have any children yourself? I am ashamed for all of you, on both sides, the supposed fathers, in Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn and, I am here, under the radar, in the midst of them, in the middle of wolves in sheeps clothing, but, you are the wolves in sheeps clothing, from the other side of the tracks. Where is the true Shepherds heart. Where the 99 are safe, and one goes astray only for the true Shepherd to go and seek him out. I am not talking about, Todd. People need to leave him alone, to the humbling process of God, and not make it easy for him. Arent you burdened for those young faces in that picture with Wes. I know these kids, I am blessed, to be able to minister to some of them, after all of this mess. People, priorities, the heart of the Father, is not with you. Why, arent we weeping between the porch and the altar. Humbled, at that some of the people all over the globe, who might have stumbled and fell away from God. Why, get our satisfaction, in the true fact, that some day Todd, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, Peter Wagner, Doris, will have to answer to God,for not being true fathers and mothers? Are you going to be at the same level as them, although the other side of the extreme, it is the same spirit of deception, and believe me, I have worked in deliverance for a few years, and I know what I am seeing, has nothing to do with a true Shepherds heart in this blog! In the name, of the Lord Jesus Christ, who loved these young ex-interns, before the foundations of this world, and knew He was coming to this earth to suffer, die and rise again for them to have eternal life! How great is His love for them. And all you can do is get satisfaction of rubbing these young peoples faces in the mud?? I am a grand daughter of a pastor, and a daughter of a pastor. I kept backsliding all

through my teen years, and through my 20s and 30s, because I had only a relationship with religion, and church. Jesus, was as a child might see Santa Claus to me. According to you, this Jessa, could never be like the prodical son in the bible. But, I am. Thank God, that He loved me enough, to forgive, me over and over and over again, until, I really humbled myself, and had my Damascus road experience with the true Jesus Christ. Now, I suggest, that we all pray, that all involved, including yourselves, pray for your own customized Damascus Road experience, where you meet the true Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who came in the flesh, for more then you with this Pharisee spirit. And, I am truly praying for all of the body of Christ, because we see that judgement truly does come to the church first, and we can not presume, that we will not be judged also. mother, T Comment by Mother Teresa | January 5, 2009 64. Yes Todd is definitely in the wrong. Ironically I actually went to church with Wes and Jessica. I understand hes in the limelight and every wrongdoing he does is magnified but, instead of condemning Todd why dont you pray for him that he can get his priorities straight and continue to spread the Gospel and touch lives. In the end he and Jessica are humans like us and have shortcomings and strongholds. Comment by Shawn | January 5, 2009 65. Too much site activity can cause posting errors. Make sure you save all, before posting. Then check. I am so glad for sites like this. There is so much good and bad going on in the Kingdom. Being able to talk truth, not trash, edifies us all. Re: Todd Bentley has not learned anything. I tried to view the OSAS post, but it would not fully load. The OSAS Branham deception from the devil is real. One in twenty Spirit filled Christians I encounter, stake their life on the Jesus Only (no Father or HS). 1/20 to 1/100 is the posted amount. There is lots of info on the web. So not a lot in #s, but enough to damage many, many people. Churches are so desperate for Pastors, that the OSAS ones get hired anyway but technically cannot preach it. So they go behind everyones back to promote their Heresy. Sad. That is why Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner and others Never learn anything. BAM!!! OSAS.

These OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) deceived people write their own Bible interpretation to cover their sins. Just as Todd Bentley did. Also Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Bob Jones, NAR, PK Davies, the Elijah List, and more. They will never change their ways because BAM, OSAS. The problem is that they hide their OSAS belief. Because as soon as they are exposed, they know they are condemned. Heretics. They hide it by refusing to post or speak a Statement of Faith (that they actually believe). They hide it by shouting, showmanship, and snake-oil. They hide it by feeling things, seeing things, claiming things, and pretending that they have the real god. Ya Pull the wool farther over our eyes, Todd Bentley and crew. Unfortunately, I personally know over 100 people deceived by Todd Bentley, and his OSAS, who gave over $100,000.00 dollars. Their broken hearts and faces streaked with tears will be etched on my mind forever. Sigh. Truth can hurt. But I Love the Spirit of Truth. I Love reading and studying the Word. So to encourage all: I am sure, that as we all keep emailing Customs, IRS, ect, and telling others, that the Todd Bentley train will fully derail in time. Keep up the good work you all. Keep reading the Word. Keep doing good works. God Bless you. ps Does your heart hurt, Todd Bentley??? Jan 05, 2009 Comment by randy | January 5, 2009 66. Mother Teresa If you read what I have repeatedly said on this site within context, we call on Todd and his associates and followers to repent. If we did not believe he and they were able to

repent, and get right/be restored, then we would not call for repentence or true restoration! According to you, this Jessa, could never be like the prodical son in the bible. No, not so. You lie and distort. I have never said this. I say that Jessa as well as Todd has sinned on multiple points including adultery and deception and heresy and she needs to repent and be restored if ever intending to minister/be in the church again. I call for repentence so that she and others affected can be delivered from this snare. rubbing these young peoples faces in the mud I did not create the muddy mess Todd and Jessa and Wes and others are in. They are the ones that are as pigs snorting and revelling in the mud of their own making and totally unrepentent and sticking their fingers up at the church. They are the ones who as dogs have their faces right down into the puddles of their own vomit and gobbling it up lascivously {2 Peter 2:20]. I did not create either the vomit and mud I hate it far more than you seem to but I am not going to pretend and blind my eyes to the fact it is actually there in the first place. Mud is mud. Vomit is vomit. I call it for what it is, if you do not like it then deal with the mess and these wrong doers properly! The old saying, dont shoot the messenger as you do not like the message is very fitting here. I will not whitewash mud will you? nor allow any others to drink from their puddles of mud and vomit without at least a strong warning. A shepherds heart does indeed seek out the lost BUT that does not mean that the shepherds heart does not warn aloud, and publically shun where appropiate, or call hypocrisy, lying, lawlessness, heresy, blasphemy and sin for what it is. Along with weeping and much grief. Weeping and criticism is not incompatible. Jesus wept yet he also criticised. Shepherds need to do something while looking ater the sheep, not just think and pray or keep quiet. What kind of shepherd watches on while the wolf bites the lambs? You assume much based on typical NAR propaganda and manipulation aimed at taking down any critics any true shepherds. Look at your swipe claiming that I need a customized Damascus Road experience as if I do not know God and had not met Jesus! How dare you, you gospel denier! And you say this only because I touch your anointed. If I did not warn and stayed silent, does that mean then you assume that I am OK and am your best buddy? Wow! I am a real convert to Jesus, and God has taken me through much as I love and serve Him over the years thank you very much! Who is the one who truly knows God? The one who claims lots of experiences and visions that do not match the word of the Holy Spirit, and show themselves to be lying and fleecing, or the one whose experiences and visions testifies with scripture and does not lie or fleece? The one who pushes lawlessness and heresy, or the one who defends

and contends for truth? The one whose lifestyle honors a quest for holiness and truth, or the one who sins and is totally unrepentent? The one whose heart is set on mammon and commits simony, or the one who freely gives, supporting themselves by the work of their hands? The one who only loves and serves number one, [themselves], or the one who loves and serves the whole flock? Tell me, according to scripture, who most likely knows God of these two?! Who is the true shepherd, the one who warns of danger for that lost person and his flock, or the one who watches lovingly on silently and watches the person take many down with them to destuction? The one who tolerates sin, lawlessness and lies, or the one who says No, not in my Fathers house! We absolutely acknowledge that is no mountain, whether it is man or woman, full of demonic manipulation, that can not be moved and cast into the sea. But without repentence this cannot happen. And until repentence happens and true restoration takes place for everything Todd did wrong [ie not just adultery], Todd and his associates should not be in leadership or ministry, or given any free passes. {I however find it fascinating though that while you give the NAR a pass with the above statement, you are more contentious against the pharisee spirit in your critics. You need to do some better bible study, mother. If the pharisees were demonised with religious spirits, then Jesus could and would have driven them out, if that were the key to their deliverance. But he did not, for it was far more serious at heart. They had unbelief, pride and elitism. They were hypocrits seeking status and acclaim, and did one thing on the outside and another on the inside. Their hearts were hard. They were whitewashers, the complete opposite of what I am but what you seem to be. You want to call me a pharisee go ahead, but do it at least based on scripture and based on fact. Otherwise you show yourself to be a manipulative deceiver in the manner of ones who pushes and practices cult like behaviour and manipulation. A pharisee is not just someone who criticises! Otherwise you call Jesus and the Holy Spirit demonised! You call me demonised by a pharisee religious spirit. Yet I am not elitist or proud, and call and rebuke against such elitism and pride when and where I see it. The NAR however is elitist and proud. I am not a hypocrit, saying one thing and doing another, I do not lie to the flock, nor do I use unequal plumblines with in how I judge others and how I judge myself, I do not show partiality to any man the NAR show partiality and hypocrisy and they repeatedly lie. I do not whitewash sin, the NAR whitewash galore. My heart is not hardened towards God and others and his truth. My heart reflects my deeds I do not show religious pretence on the outside that does not match my inner self. My heart above all things loves God and His truth and this and Him I will defend. I do not claim to be perfect or to have attained instant holiness yet manifest something entirely different. I do not seek mans approval but Gods. So how is this in any way matching the heart and behaviour of the pharisees?! How can this then be a phariseeical spirit, if there even be such a thing?!

My heart is not hardened to God. I have faith and have heard his message. I love His message and his truth. Yet you do not. >> People need to leave him alone As long as he and his associates remains unrepentent and he and they are still influencing the church and ministering he and his associates should not be given a free pass. The church need to contend with him and his associates. People should shun him and call others to shun him and his associates . And continue warning and rebuking aloud. That is not leaving him alone and his associates. That is exactly what he and they want. Arent you burdened for those young faces in that picture with Wes Yes, and burdened for the millions entrapped by the NAR deception and the other ones being pulled in every minute. Are you burdened for these millions as well as these kids? I am blessed, to be able to minister to some of them, after all of this mess What exactly have you been ministering to these kids? Truth or false security and lies: peace peace where there is no peace. {And what about BEFORE and DURING all this mess where were you then? And by mess do you only mean adultery?} For many are obviously not repentent and still deceived. Jessa is still an unrepentent adultress. Todd is still a corrupt and corrupting liar and heretic. Wes Roderick and James Levesque and others still publicly support both Todd and Jessa despite everything. Those are hearts and minds far, far from God. Corrupted minds and corrupted hearts. What deliverance has there been there? What ministry? As for your claims about deliverance show me how this works exactly, when these guys are still openly rebelling against God and their hearts are hardened? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 5, 2009 67. Recall,same cia,lol Comment by http://adultdailycare.com | January 5, 2009 68. I Realize there is no repentance, I realize their hearts are hardened. But, God, will see what the enemy is up to, and He turns it to His victory. I do believe God is soverign enough and He raises people up, and puts people down. And if anything, Todd has been a trigger, for believers to have a chance to focus on priorities, to call for a fast, to pray and intercede for the church. I do not believe in once saved always saved. I said, I had fallen away, or backslid over and over as a young person, and teen. Thank God for a praying mother. What if some of these do not have praying relatives. I think, we need to take up this challenge. To pray for those who have backslid, to as I said before, have a customized road to Damascus experience, which would lead to true salvation.

I believe in the process of Deuteronomy 8 and 9. That the Lord Himself, will lead us into the wilderness, to prove what is in our own hearts. We have free will, and until you can come to the end of yourself, humbled, and see what is in our own hearts, we dont know to give it to God. And, I know that if we harden, or if any of these people, in this circle hardens their hearts, they will not go into to their promised land, or destination in God. A hardened heart can only be replaced with a heart of flesh by God, He knows what it takes to humble us, and if that is falling into our own sins, and reaping what we have sown, or letting them go to satan for the working over of their flesh to save their souls in the long run, I believe in that. That, Jesus will be there if we repent. I am not saying to condone what Todd is doing, but, there is venom in your speech. And evidently, you dont realize, that the pharisee spirit, or religious spirit, are demons, if you will, the anti-christ spirit. This spirit, pretends to be the real thing. It doesnt have to be a hypocrite, it s purpose is to deceive the people. And there were demons cast out in the temples in the bible. I dont disagree with the scriptures you used, I disagree, with the lashing out. And it is real easy, to blame Todd for yourself posting pictures of the kids not even having had the affair. We know how Jesus reacted, when the woman, who was caught with another man committing adultery in the bible, with the men all ready to stone her. Jesus, drew something in the sand, and said, he without sin, cast the first stone. They left, and Jesus told the woman, your accusers have left. Go and sin no more, because Jesus didnt accuse her, He brought salvation. So, in this situation, you are throwing stones. And, we are just waiting for Jesus to show up, and reach Jessa, and to pierce hers, yours and all of our hearts with truth. There is a better way to do this. Some of these kids, using a mason phrase, were hoodwinked. There is a powerful spirit of deception working in and around Todd. So, if you keep throwing those spiritual stones, which way, do you think the young people will run? Into the arms of the church throwing the stones for council on how to get back to Jesus? Or do you think they will ask you how to get over the confusion, will you please help me, I need some inner healing? No, I can tell you no, no, no. Still, I am not condoning Todd with this ministry, he is building again, nor those who are supposed to be fathers, being silent, and not standing for righteousness. I absolutely know, God is drawing a line in the sand, and asking who is on His side. The thing is, if you carry the Fathers heart in anyway, you will know He is grieved, at all of this bickering, and lashing out, and disunity. And, if you do not have His love for His creation, why would He appoint you to be the great correcter? Paul, did correct, but, then, he raised the dead, healed the sick, cast out demons, and wept over those who fell away. He did say to not even eat with those who call themselves brothers who are in sexual sin, but, there was more then that sin included. I appologize if I offended you. But, I see these kids as wanting to serve God, and got caught up with someone, who was not honest with them and they became victims of these other mens manipulations and schemes . And even the police, wouldnt post pictures of the victims. Even though the young lady involved does not know it, she is a victim too. Someone like Todd put into a ministorial postion had authority that he shouldnt have had. As a minister, you give counsel, advise, and people feel free to share confidences in. That is a position of power. I am asking, if you have to post things ranting against Todd, of any one of the fathers he

is supposed to be under that is one thing. But, to post pictures of, and throw out names of young people who are trying to get back on their feet, that is a lack of compassion. And, I am here to tell you, that a lot of them, are getting back on their feet, and seeking Jesus more then ever, and will be stronger for this, because, they have held on to Jesus during this whole mess, and they have become seasoned. Comment by Mother Teresa | January 5, 2009 69. Jessa now using her private myspace account to send messages to the outside world. *~*Jessa*~* knows where she stands with God and is standing on the promise that God is for her, NOT against her! Hamas seem to know where they stand with G_d aswell. Any comments that she percieves negative probably will be considered Satans attack against her and Todd. Still no signs of repentance! Comment by Avshalom | January 5, 2009 70. Mother Teresa I cannot believe what you wrote, do you call yourself a Christian? do you read your Bible? surely the answer to both is no. I cannot say anymore as endtimespropheticwords has said it all and more Please turn to Jesus and seek another conversion, only this time make sure you are with a Born again Christian / believer, who can confirm that you have indeed met with the Lord Jesus Christ. As in my humble opinion you are in deep trouble Comment by William Southward | January 5, 2009 71. Avshalom That takes some gal of Jessal! She writes *~*Jessa*~* knows where she stands with God and is standing on the promise that God is for her, NOT against her! Mood: confident Wow. Todd [who logged in at around the same time as Jessa] describes himself now as Mood: excited Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 5, 2009 72. Mother T

I apologize if I offended you You did not offend me. Your expressed doctrine and behaviour does offend though and your lack of upholding the full counsel of God and demonising those who do dare to stand for truth, righteousness and justice in others absense is also deeply offensive. >>I see these kids as wanting to serve God, and got caught up with someone, who was not honest with them and they became victims of these other mens manipulations and schemes Kids? But 25 as Jessa is way old enough. If she was only 15, fine, different story but she still does not get a totally free pass as even a 15 year old knows adultery and lying is wrong. But in their 20s and 30s?!! Come on 25 is way old enough to know much better. Yes Todd abused his power, and Jessa and many others worldwide are his victims. BUT heres the thing, Jessa and his interns and followers, however deluded, however victimised they may be, are still accountable for their sin, and for their following and promoting and supporting a lying blasphemous heretic and deceiver and they still need to repent of their part in order to get right with God and to be restored. And as shown, some of them are deliberate deceivers themselves, while some, perhaps, are just plain ignorant but regardless, they all have their own victims for they pass on the deception while continuing supporting the beast Bentley and his vile doctrines and practices. And they too are accountable for that. to post pictures of, and throw out names of young people who are trying to get back on their feet For the record I included that group picture because Jessa is on it and that is the only reason. Not to make any particular comment as to the spiritual state of the rest of the group. If others pictured there with Jessa have since seen the light and repented of their involvement with Todd Bentley, then all the better. But I know a good few of them have not. The specific names I have mentioned of people such as Wes Roderick, James Levesque, Catherine Mullens, Sharnael Wolverton etc are still publicaly supporting Todd and Jessa as of these past couple of weeks. They deserve rebuked as their behaviour is unscriptural and not God honoring and NOT in the interests of the multitudes but only in the interests of themselves, the NAR and Todd Bentley. >>that is a lack of compassion Rebukes and compassion are not incompatible. Jesus rebuked are you gonna say he was incompassionate and lacked understanding too? Or say that he was demonised like you do me?

It is a biblical basic that Christians should not hang with and support men like Bentley. So what exactly are you counselling these kids with as they get on their feet. How can they get on their feet without repentence and deliverence? Without knowledge of the truth of the word of God? Without submitting themselves to God and not Todd? How can they be seeking Jesus more then ever in this situation without doing the gospel ABC? How can they be holding onto Jesus yet be so far off in their minds and hearts and behaviour? How can you boast they are delivered when they are still so deluded and sinful? And you still not have answered what you define the mess? The adultery alone or all the other shenanigans. >>if you carry the Fathers heart in anyway, you will know He is grieved, at all of this bickering, and lashing out, and disunity. What about if you carry the Fathers word which calls to mark, rebuke and contend with such people whatever their age?! What would you know then? You call calling a spade a spade bickering, and lashing out, and disunity. Wow. This is scriptural how exactly, when God says not to unite with darkness so that kind of disunity is God pleasing? just as your comments on the pharasiacal spirit are scriptural, how? I already showed you that if anyone here, it is yourself that has the hallmarks of a pharisee because of the desire for whitewashing and also the demonstrated hypocrisy, not I. And then you declare that I have an antichrist spirit too do you even know what antichrist is or means?! Scripture shows that God is grieved by all the whitewashing and saying peace peace where there is none. By the way, I would love to know how you reconcile the idea that I am demonised with a pharisical and antichrist spirit and am bickering, lashing out, and creating disunity, and am incompassionate without a shepherds hearts and without love etc because I criticise, but you when you criticise me and not just criticising but demonising [and at serious risk of calling the Holy Spirit a demon] are full of the compassionate shepherds, mother/fathers heart and are full of love, light and wisdom and are not bickering, lashing out, and creating disunity but highyl anointed?!! What utter hypocrisy! Can you not see it in yourself? I mean, honestly? Why does your criticism become righteous and mine does not? That is surely the hallmarks of a pharisee using dual standards and showing partiality. Typical NAR indoctrinated behaviour. >>And, if you do not have His love for His creation, why would He appoint you to be the great correcter? But you consider yourself loving and appointed to be my corrector?

As to love. You seem only to care of the few. What of the many others though that need ministry and warned worldwide do you love them? Are you picking them up too, helping them, ministering to them? >>So, in this situation, you are throwing stones. And, we are just waiting for Jesus to show up, and reach Jessa, and to pierce hers, yours and all of our hearts with truth. Please research what throwing stones actually is within context. IT IS NOT warning, rebuking, contending with. It is not judging and exposing sin, heresy and false prophecy. So I am not throwing stones. But again your dual standards in your unequal plumbline and your hypocrisy amazes me, as if criticism is throwing stones, you throw stones at me. But thats OK?!?! ??? >>we are just waiting for Jesus to show up, and reach Jessa, and to pierce hers, yours and all of our hearts with truth. Just waiting for Jesus to show up?!!!!!!!!! He is here already. Jessa knows the truth enough of it anyway already to know what is right and wrong in this event! I speak the truth and she and others does not want to hear it. It is lunacy and the opposite of scripture to suggest that the church stay silent about sin in these situations and waits silently for God to convict. Please, please, please get into the word of God in the Bible more. >>they have become seasoned. Seasoned at what? Lying? Fleecing? Supporting heretics? Lawlessness? Deception? Not knowing right from wrong? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 5, 2009 73. Jessa does need to publicly repent if she is to be restored to right standing in Christs church. She is a full grown consenting adult who played a major role in this whole scandal that has made a despicable mockery of God. While she may have been initially deceived under Todds demonic power, it would seem far more likely that she was a victim if it was a one-time deal but instead she continued in a relationship with him (and may still be) over the course of many months. One does not sleep with a man that many times, receive material benefit from Todds profit (stolen from the sheep), and not know his fundamental nature. Yet, in any case, I believe endtimes is justified in bringing light to this situation. I can understand what Mother T is trying to say, but I think God grieves far more over His sheep gone astray. While restoration is important for Todd and Jessa, they must first openly repent to even being that process this has ever been the

way the apostles dealt with sin in the early church (in-fact, less extreme than the power of God killing Ananias and Sapphira for their sin). I think Peters response to Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8:20-22 is appropriate in this situation: You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. Comment by Frank | January 5, 2009 74. The truth is this, it matters not what both of us think, or preach, what matters is the souls involved. And praying for them to repent, for God to do whatever it takes to bring them to salvation is the best thing to do, in my opinion. I have never stated, that they dont need to repent, they do. Deception is what it says, people dont know when they are in it. And, I am not going or coming against you, infact I think you are very young. And it may be that I am acquainted with you, because you are using my own words against me that I have used with some people. I am grieved at all of this. I listed that they need to repent, that they have backslid, and it seems you dont see that. This is something just used to distract us from keeping the Lord as our main focus. We can pray that they repent, we can intercede, Moses did, Paul did, and the blood of Jesus does. I pray, that, more of a fullness of the heart of Jesus comes to us all. Comment by Mother Teresa | January 5, 2009 75. We can pray that they repent, we can intercede, Moses did, Paul did, and the blood of Jesus does. MT If we study the new testament we dont find that Jesus instructed His disciples to pray that people would repent? Rather Jesus and the disciples went out and told people to repent? And Apostle Paul told us something that should be done right now about the false ones in NAR or Revival Alliance: ACTS 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 1TM 5:20 Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear. 2TM 4:2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

So scripturally speaking this is not the time to pray for the false ones such as Todd to command them to repent and to rebuke them for not doing so? Comment by susan | January 5, 2009 76. Yeah, no kidding. How does God cause someone to repent through prayer? Thats the entire point of freedom of will and why the entire gospel hangs on one word: Repent! We can certainly pray that the call to repentance gets through to them, but that seems to be exactly what the scripture and most people here are doing calling them to repentance. Comment by David | January 6, 2009
77. You can intercede that God will soften peoples hearts and work on them and in his

kindness and grace bring them to faith and repentence. But ultimately, it is their choice whether to respond or not. Prayer for individuals can and does make a difference when the word is spoken out. Both are needed, word and prayer together. And sometimes people really are reprobate and so one may be guided to pray elsewhere to better end, rather than waste time praying for someone to repent that God knows is a son of perdition. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 6, 2009 78. The Holy Spirit enables us to be holy before God in this evil world. He intercedes for us to the Father in our weakness when we do not know as what to pray and enables us to live a victorious and holy life. But what happens when through the NAR or Revival Alliance people even Christians receive an unholy spirit instead of the Holy Spirit? They cannot live a victorious and holy life! But John Arnotts excuse to Gordon Williams about Christians getting demons in TACFs meetings was they had them before they came to the meeting! MT 12:43 When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 2:44 Then he says, I will return to my house from which I came. And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 12:45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation. Comment by susan | January 6, 2009
79. Concerning comment 11 above: there is someone on the Internet impersonating Robert

Ricciardelli, as there are two Facebook identities for him. There is also someone on the

Internet spreading unverifiable gossip in his name, including the comments on my blog in his name. This material has not been repeated on his genuine website. I am now hoping that these are the work of the fake Ricciardelli, and that the genuine Christian minister would not stoop so low as to spread malicious gossip about another Christian minister. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 6, 2009 80. Peter Kirk The fact that someone may have two facebook identities is NOT proof that someone is impersonating him on Facebook or eslewhere, nor proof there is a fake Ricciardelli posting comments on the blogosphere. I dont know why someone would want to have two Facebook IDs, but perhaps one is for ministry/anyone, one is personal and private for family and close friends and has personal pics etc. Or there may be an imposter on Facebook but this still does not mean there is an imposter on the blogs but regardless, should you not seek to verify the facts before jumping to such rash conclusions and then posting this guesswork? Regardless, what this person says: is it only malicious gossip and stooping low because you do not like its message? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 6, 2009 81. I am now hoping .. that the genuine Christian minister would not stoop so low as to spread malicious gossip about another Christian minister.Peter Kirk Most self righteous Christian people who talk about gossip dont know the meaning of the word! It means: gossip (gsp) n. 1. Rumor or talk of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature. 2. A person who habitually spreads intimate or private rumors or facts. 3. Trivial, chatty talk or writing! There is no trivial or private matter about the fact that Todd Bentley is an unrepentant liar, a thief, adulterer, sorcerer, false prophet and a deceivers. These facts are now well known and established by many including on this website! And Todd Bentley is not a Christian Minister. He is Satans minister and a son of hell as well as a hypocrite and should be rebuked and put out by all true Christians! Check out Todd Bentley Inc. at http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/01/toddbentley-inc.html Comment by brad | January 6, 2009 82. Peter Kirk

I have just emailed the real Robert Ricciardelli via his website, Vision2Advance, asking him to clarify or not whether it is genuinely him leaving the comments on this blog {and by default your blog that it links to], and also to please answer some of the other questions left on here since.[or to make a statement of his own if it was an imposter posting before] Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 6, 2009 83. Some NAR leaders do have more than 1 profile. Usally 1 for there fans and 1 for family and friends. Comment by Avshalom | January 7, 2009 84. This is the real Robert Ricciardelli. There have been several that have made comments and put my name to them The fact is that, except for some private conversations, as much as I can remember, I have not posted anything that I remember since August, except for yesterday and just now. Here are my final comments anything after this is not me. I made about 50% of the comments that have been attributed to me. I WILL NOT TAKE THE TIME TO DISSEMINATE THEM. Did Todd make mistakes yes. Did I make some comments I regret yes, mainly because of how they spread wrongly and misinterpreted wrongly. Also many private conversations became public without my knowing. Going forward whatever happened for good or bad based on whose view is it, lets move on Either side you are on, be praying for Todd as God leads, or at least let this thing rest. We have so many other issues regarding the Kingdom of God we need to be pursuing. Todd, Jessa and those who have made errors in life including myself need to reckon with God. I am thankful that He has taken me to where I am today but have so much more to pursue Him and His righteousness. Let me ask you this question, what value is there in discussing this now? How is this helping Todd, or others? How is this glorifying God? I will not be answering this blog, so if you care to write, here is my personal email Robert.Ricciardelli@gmail.com, I will only receive good hearted comments, and I will not answer specific questions on Todds personal issues. But feel free to comment at that email if you wish. God bless all of you and may 2009 be a year of growth for all of us, come what may.

Comment by Robert Ricciardelli | January 7, 2009 85. Peter Kirk said just at the moment, until I see some kind of explanation from Ricciardelli, I dont feel inclined to trust the person who is apparently using my blog as a channel for spreading malicious gossip. I accept that the real Ricciardelli is not a supporter of Lakeland, but is it him who is committing a sin just as bad as Todds by spreading gossip and tearing apart the body of Christ? It is amazing to me that the crticism of and exposing of blatant unrepentent sin in a church leader is deemed the only sin worth getting really hett up about and condemning of by some folk. The words used to throw ammo at the watchmen by these folk are very vivid and descriptive and damning and unloving [not to mention unbiblical and unfair] such as malicious and tearing apart and gossip while Todd and his mistresss numerous sins that he evidently revels in are pushed aside with very vague generalities and patted on the head with a there, there type loving and covering-up type attitude. Ignoring it is easier. Pretending it is not there is easier. But it aint right or biblical. By the way, Peter how come your own critical comments about Ricciardelli are not deemed by you as malicious gossip or tearing apart? Because they belong to you? Does criticism only work for you your way? Why do you not feel inclined to trust Ricciardelli on this point, while you do feel inclined to trust and make excuses for blatant crooks like Sharon Stone, even when there is the evidence of their deception screaming in your face? Why are you inclined to use such unequal scales and measures? You know, Peter, if you face up to the truth about these guys and admit to yourself and others what they truly are, and turn from them you do not deny God or the true gifts and ministries of the Spirit. Rather you honor Him and will find the true supernatural. You lose nothing but bondage and deception oh yeah, and maybe quite a few friends. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 7, 2009
86. I can confirm that the comment left This is the real Robert Ricciardelli. by Robert

Ricciardelli was the identical one that came in my email box in response to my email asking for verification sent via Robert Ricciardellis official website. So it is verified and furthermore the previous comment on here is also even more verified than it was before, as it is the exact same IP address and the same details given as the verifying email. Furthermore the gmail address he gives is also genuinely the real Robert Ricciardelli and not an imposter, as can be seen by websearches. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 7, 2009

87. Great catch again! Robert Ricciardelli: You ask why this discussion still goes on? Unreal. You will need to repent heavily for that one. How about the thousands and thousands of deceived Christians How about fraud, stealing money from the poor and needy, only to make a comeback. How about never repenting for any sins or crimes. How about, in ONE WORD, ACCOUNTABILITY How about it, Robert Ricciardelli. Todd Bentley will end up in jail for his crimes. That shall be a fact. Comment by randy | January 7, 2009 88. Endtimepropheticwords, I have never indulged in anything which could conceivably be described as sins pushed aside with very vague generalities and patted on the head with a there, there type loving and covering-up type attitude. I have consistently condemned the sins which have been reported about Todd Bentley. Please apologise for suggesting that I have in any way condoned these sins. I have of course suggested that these sins, when repented of, should be forgiven, but if I am to be condemned for that then I am in the good company of my Lord and Saviour. Beyond that all that I have done is express some scepticism about the veracity of some reports of Todds sins. This scepticism has now been shown to be justified in that the real Robert Ricciardelli has confirmed that some of the reports in his name were in fact made by an imposter, which clearly implies that these reports cannot be trusted. As I understand it, gossip consists of spreading private or unverifiable information about third parties, not discussing verifiable facts about them which they have made public. Brad, this ties up with your definition 1. Rumor or talk of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature. I accept that these matters about Todd are not trivial. But they are of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature, and some of them have now been shown to be rumour at least in the sense of being unverifiable information distributed anonymously. I accept that there is an argument that the sins of public figures are public matters, but it is not one which I accept, certainly not when it comes to attempts to unmask the identities of third parties who are not public figures.

It is clear that the imposter posting in Roberts name is sinning by doing so, bearing false witness in putting Roberts name on his comments even if the reports are true, as well as spreading unverifiable private information, i.e. gossip, presumably with malicious intent against both Todd and Robert. It also now seems clear that the genuine Robert Ricciardelli is not spreading gossip. I would like to apologise to him and to anyone else reading this for suggesting that he might be, and withdraw any comments to that effect. I will shortly be deleting these from my own blog, as well as comments apparently made by the imposter and my responses to them. These will include the comments quoted in the post above, which in fact seem to be the work of the imposter. I would suggest that the text of this post should be edited to reflect what we now know about these comments. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 7, 2009 89. Peter Kirk I have read a number of your posts and comments on Todd Bentley on your site, and it was clear to me in those posts that you were far softer on Bentley et al than you were on his critics. Have you used such strong language about what Todd Bentley et al has been up to I do not just mean the adultery for I did not see it in your speech? I did not say you condoned his adultery. I said you used different measures, and got far more hett up about the critics of Lakeland and so relatively speaking, when comparing the two, I think my comment was fair although it was a generality not all addressed to you. In some cases you seemed to be in outright denial about the sins of Lakeland, and the NAR, and scramble about finding every possible reason however unlikely not to believe the obvious staring in your face. Please examine yourself why this is so, Peter. >> I have consistently condemned the sins which have been reported about Todd Bentley. Please tell me where you have consistently condemned the heresy, the simony, the blasphemy, the counterfeit spirits, the abuse, the false prophecy anywhere, especially in strong terms? And condemned the sins of others surrounding him, also part of this deception? In some cases it is clear you are still in denial as you are making excuses for them. You feel inclined to make every possible excuse for folk like Sharon Stone finding every reason possible not to believe the obvious staring in your face I mean by that, Sharon Stones cooked up prophecy which she has done before when you do not feel inclined to give the same measure of blind trust to others who are not on your side. That is blatant dual standards, that is what I condemn! Also as to who you actually accept official reports from is hypocritical, it seems only from your side.

You claim your reasoning is that: This scepticism has now been shown to be justified in that the real Robert Ricciardelli has confirmed that some of the reports in his name were in fact made by an imposter, which clearly implies that these reports cannot be trusted. But we both know you did not like what the poster said even when his evidence aligns with the actual evidence out to date and you would find every possible reason to discredit him regardless of his actual identity. Furthermore, as already shown the comments I linked to on your blog have been verified by Robert! All Robert said was that there were other claims on the net in his name that were not all to do with him. >> It is clear that the imposter posting in Roberts name is sinning by doing so, bearing false witness in putting Roberts name on his comments even if the reports are true, as well as spreading unverifiable private information, i.e. gossip, presumably with malicious intent against both Todd and Robert. I agree that if there is an imposter claiming to be someone he is not, that he is sinning even if telling the truth about other things. Agreed. But we have no evidence that the comments I have picked up on are false, in fact it is the contrary, they have been verified directly from the horses mouth. The fact that Robert claimed he could not recall posting after August does not mean that the claims on your blog posted in Sept in his name are unverified or from an imposter. You should note well that he claimed that he had posted yesterday here before, when he had actually posted six days before that, so he is not bang on with his dates. I do not think that was a lie of his, I think that was an innocent mistake unless, perhaps, he was referring to the comment he made on the yesterday on your blog that this post directly links to and is associated with. In fact, before deleting everything, why did you not check it with the real Robert like I did or we could have even shared ip addresses to see if they matched? I think you were just looking for an excuse to delete what you do not like hearing. As to the other claims on the internet, I have read elsewhere more posted by the real Ricciardelli and think that Ricciardellis actual issue may be his thoughts that people have mispresented what he has actually said, and/or used what he has said for the other side [and he has had a lot of grief for it from you-know-who so may be trying to undo the damage] not that there is necessarily an actual imposter pretending to be him on various blogs and forums. >> As I understand it, gossip consists of spreading private or unverifiable information about third parties Not so. If a leader commits adultery or other sin and is unrepentent, then publicly outing and rebuking that sin is not gossip. [This actually also applies to unrepentent "lay people" too not just leaders.]

>> certainly not when it comes to attempts to unmask the identities of third parties who are not public figures. But Jessa is a public figure in that she was on stage at Lakeland and once had, and possibly still has a ministry of her own or will have again in the near future. She deserves rebuked in her own right. She needs restoration too. So she is not a third party, she is an actual party! However linked with this exposing of her identity is the linked evidence of Todds behaviour and the demonstration of all the numerous lies and coverup by lots of people complicit in this. In exposing her identity more information comes to light, such as Todd and Jessa going on holiday together to Hawaii twice last year the first time in February [is two months before Lakeland started]. So it really is applicable and also important. The longer they deny it/lie/remain unrepentent, the more detail has to come out. Not so much to get them to repent, but so their deluded flock repents. And also this unmasking is important as so many things are linked to this evidence. Todd is not just an adulterer, he is a liar. And so for example when we see him and Shonnah jerking under the healing family anointing in June, it is actually rather important to say that Todd was with another woman then. And when we see other claims as to instant holiness and so on well it underlies even more what a cheat he is. >> I accept that there is an argument that the sins of public figures are public matters, but it is not one which I accept So you reject the authority of the Bible, and the procedure for dealing with sin? That makes sense now if so why you would tolerate such blatant false prophets and Lakeland. But it really does not matter if it is considered by you to be a personal, sensational, or intimate nature as it is of public importance to the church, and biblically there is no justification to cover over sexual sin. And also of perhaps even more import is its coverup by leading figures and the lack of adequate restoration and all their lies. As to your claim that it is unverifiable, many things and people witness to the fact Todd is having an affair, and had one previously, and is unrepentent. I have had confirmation from more than one source that it is Jessa. The only dispute among the parties is the dates the affair started but as Todd and Fresh Fire and other associates and hangers-on have had to consistently backtrack when the contradictions are shown/the actual evidence is outed, the only ones you definitely have cause to doubt is Todd and his cover-overers, who I can prove have lied and misled repeatedly. But even they all admit there is an affair going on. By the way you still did not answer how come your own critical comments about Ricciardelli were not deemed by you as malicious gossip or tearing apart? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 7, 2009

90. I agree that I have not condemned Todd for the sin of actually fronting a successful evangelistic and healing ministry in Lakeland for several months, nor for sins like taking a collection to cover expenses, or ministering in the power of a Spirit who glorifies Jesus Christ (see 1 Corinthians 12:3) but some call counterfeit. The sins I have condemned are those involved with his admitted inappropriate relationship. The woman you claim to be a public figure is in fact anonymous, her supposed name having been reported only by someone misrepresenting himself or herself as Robert Ricciardelli and therefore condemned as a liar. See this new post of mine. What does the Bible say about public outing of sinners? Read Matthew 18:15-17 and note that nothing may be done without the testimony of two or three witnesses. Here we have only one witness who is a proven liar. It appears to be you who reject the authority of the Bible, and the procedure for dealing with sin. Robert wrote that he has not posted anything since August. That clearly implies that he is repudiating the comments made in his name which you dated to September. I admit to not being certain which comments were actually made by Robert (and I have shared their IP addresses with him), but since many of them were not and he regrets making others I have chosen to act as if none of them were in fact genuine. Do you have any evidence for your alleged information about trips to Hawaii, apart from a pseudonymous and now deleted comment on my blog which purported to report on private Facebook conversations? I did answer why my own comments about Ricciardelli were not gossip because they were based on what I thought was verifiable information. As I have now discovered that this information was uncertain (although not necessarily false) I have withdrawn and apologised for those comments. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 7, 2009 91. Peter I have read your new post and you are still distorting the facts! Please reread what I said about these comments being verified! As to your other comments, it seems you have not read my last response so please reread to show there are multiple witnesses to the adultery not just one, whatever his name and Matthews gospel that you cite also indicates public outing of unrepentent sinners. I agree that I have not condemned Todd for the sin of actually fronting a successful evangelistic and healing ministry in Lakeland for several months, nor for sins like taking a collection to cover expenses, or ministering in the power of a Spirit who glorifies Jesus Christ (see 1 Corinthians 12:3) but some call

counterfeit. The sins I have condemned are those involved with his admitted inappropriate relationship. A succesful evangelism campaign and healing ministry? Covering expenses?! Ministering in the power of the HOLY Spirit. Glorifying JESUS? ???!!! Oh wow, just wow. Do you honestly believe that? Are you really so deluded? Wow. You obviously deafen your ears to the truth. Shame. You still have not answered about your blatant hypocrisy, but dont worry I already know the answer it was for your sake and not mine that I asked the question. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 7, 2009 92. see also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/rick-joyner-on-making-toddbentleys-adultery-appropriate/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 8, 2009 93. Flake is the word for Peter Kirk. Your words are flakey, fiction, and error-filled, Peter Kirk What is up with you Peter Kirk? How many sins must Todd Bentley pile up? How many people have to be deceived and defrauded? How many lives have to be ruined? Before you wake up to the massive deception of Todd Bentley? Millions of people and millions of dollars. Is there zero compassion in your heart for them??? Come on. No one is that heartless. I hope. Or are you one of those deceived OSAS people too? You play devils advocate for Todd Bentley. Be careful you dont get hired. Comment by randy | January 8, 2009
94. I can provide even more confirmation that Jessa is indeed the name of the other woman

involved, and have gotten this from the horses mouth itself, at least four key witnesses right at the centre [I do not mean Robert Ricciardelli now, nothing to do with him]. I will be making a post with this information in due course I am awaiting a response to some

more specific questions as it brings up, you guessed it, evidence of yet more lies and unrighteousness going on. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 8, 2009
95. See Jessa (on the right side): http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?

fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16015012&albumID=1325759&imageID=24225488 Comment by Jesusfreak | January 8, 2009 96. For fresh viewers, Rick joiner said months ago that Todd Bentley and the other woman had a relationship where physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Rick Joiner also said there was much more that had not been revealed Did that ever give a strong smell of worse sins, covered up. What could be worse? I thought. Fraud and deception in the millions$$$. Doctrines of the devil. Adultry and divorce. A ruined life, ruined family, and a ruined ministry. What could be worse? I have only one guess. I will not speak it. It is too ugly, tragic, and predictable. I pray that the whole truth would be manifest. Nothing is hidden that shall not be revealed He who covers his sins, shall not prosper Keep fighting the good fight everyone. But dont forget to rest, relax, and enjoy time in the Word. All good soldiers need need this. (-: Comment by randy | January 8, 2009 97. Randy physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. I believe it was C Peter Wagner who said that, not Joyner? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 8, 2009

98. Other Jessa pictures with Fresh Fire interns http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16015012&albumID=1325759&imageID=24225488# a=1325759&i=27603335 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16015012&albumID=1325759&imageID=24225488# a=1325759&i=22462236 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16015012&albumID=1325759&imageID=24225488# a=1325759&i=24225483 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16015012&albumID=1325759&imageID=24225488# a=1325759&i=24225488 Comment by Soul | January 8, 2009
99. Peter Kirk embraces the he ostrich form of Christianity that contradicts the Bible See

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/the-ostrich-form-of-christianity-thatcontradicts-the-bible/ Comment by susan | January 8, 2009 100. I copied the quote and Joyner was listed on four sites. I have time tonight to research and confirm. Thanks. This Peter Kirk guy seems to be promoting the lie that Todd Bentley did almost nothing wrong? Does he have health issues? Comment by randy | January 8, 2009 101. @Soul

I believe the group photos are like the Joels Army Interns two of which I believe are staff. Thank G_d my desires and path were changed! Comment by Avshalom | January 8, 2009 102. Randy

I may be remembering wrongly. I know Wagner said something very like it.

Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 8, 2009 103. correction: Wagner. Rick joyner was listed in the promo area of my search, but Wagner is the quoted author of: physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Thanks I wish i had the time and resources to do what you do here. Blessings on you for the time, dedication, and accuracy of your site. To all readers, please share this site with others. Many others. Encourage them to get the facts here. It is by far the most comprehensive and reliable resource available on the Todd Bentley disaster. (a couple of other sites are really good too) (We need to get the truth out to the multitudes!) Comment by randy | January 9, 2009
104.

Thanks Randy

I really appreciate everyones contributions here. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 9, 2009 105. Randy, if I am crazy for insisting on evidence before accepting allegations about people, then I am in the good company of the entire legal profession, as well as of Jesus and the many biblical authors who wrote that every accusation requires two or three witnesses. Susan, you wrote in your post: There are various forms of this ostrich Christianity such as : -You shall not judge, -God is merciful, forgiving -We live in the period of grace -God will forgive all sins -Relgion is a private, personal thing But the first four of these are clearly biblical Christianity. See, among many other verses, 1. Matthew 7:1; 2. Luke 6:36; 3. Romans 6:14; 4. Matthew 6:14 (yes, there is a condition, but it is not even repentance). (As for the fifth, it is not biblical in general but Matthew 18:15-16 implies that sins should initially be dealt with privately.) Are you saying that

you deny these statements? I accept that they need to be interpreted in the light of the verses you quote which seem to be in tension with them. But if you are saying that these are not part of true Christianity, then I dont see how you can honestly call yourself a Christian. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 9, 2009
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see also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/dave-bentley-letter-to-rickjoyner-on-todd-bentley-and-fresh-fire-ministries/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 10, 2009

107.

Susan, you wrote in your post:

Dear Peter Kirk, if you had checked out the website it was not my post, I just made reference to it and believe that some people like Peter Kirk chose to be blind and a fool to ignore the real sins and evil deeds and even crimes of Todd Bentley and those who have and are supporting him! In my book Todd is an unrepentent son of disobedience, son of perdition, and son of hell who probably will never repent. And the bible tells us: MT 23:13 But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 23:14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation. 23:15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. Comment by susan | January 10, 2009 108. Speaking of fools the bible tells us in Psalms:

92:5 O LORD, how great are Your works! Your thoughts are very deep. 92:6 A senseless man does not know, Nor does a fool understand this. 92:7 When the wicked spring up like grass, And when all the workers of iniquity flourish, It is that they may be destroyed forever. AND WE KNOW THAT TODD BENTLEY IS EVIL AND WICKED! SO WHAT WILL HIS END BE LIKE? Comment by brad | January 10, 2009

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see also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/todd-bentleyletter-to-rick-joyner-on-his-marriage-ministry-and-mistress-and-fresh-fire-infighting/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 10, 2009

110.

Todd confirms in the above post that Jessa is indeed his girlfriend. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 10, 2009

111. peter peter. I have better things to do, than waste time on you. This is important: VISA Complications HA!!!! There are no complications If Todd leaves the USA, he is NOT allowed back. Id call that more than a complication. That is also why Todd is Divorcing his wife. So he can marry into becoming a US citizen!!! That is the key. (and Todds devious plan) If enough of us email U.S. Customs this and other info, hopefully that will get Todd kicked out of the USA. Send him back to Canada where he will have to answer tax questions about the $$$ in his pockets, and the pentecostal handshake. If enough of us do this, maybe we can make the difference. Lastly, can someone email the following to Shonnah? If she delays the divorce, and this is very easily done in Canada when children are involved. Then Todd will have to leave the USA before being divorced, thus preventing a legal marriage to his mistriss, and US citizenship. Sounds devious? It is not. It is war. Shonnah should also demand a full psychological evaluation before any other divorce details are drawn up. It is her right. She *should* be afraid of Todd. He is a danger to himself and to others. Who knows what he might do? He has lost everything. Next he looses his mind. Serious stuff. To be taken seriously. Shonnah needs a full restraining order on Todd and zero access by Todd to her children. I will email her if someone can provide.

Not FFM though. Thanks Contact customs you all. Stop Todd Bentleys devious designs and destructions. Comment by randy | January 10, 2009 112. Randy, you are encouraging a wife to go to war with her husband? Whatever happened to mutual submission? See 1 Peter 3:1 for some alternative advice for Shonnah. Also US Customs etc will not lift a finger unless you provide EVIDENCE of any financial irregularities. And of that I have seen none at all! Comment by Peter Kirk | January 12, 2009 113. On 13 Jan, Jessa had changed her mood (on myspace) to confident. At the top of the page she has written: *~*Jessa*~* knows where she stands with God and is standing on the promise that God is for her, NOT against her! In this religion of ravished hearts and bridal mysticism gone wild, the spiritual and the sexual are one and the same. For her to shift from passion for Jesus to passion for Todd would have been effortless. Comment by tiredoftheb.s. | January 13, 2009 114. I submit that Peter Kirk should be banned from this site.

I checked, and pk goes to many sites, and defends Todd Bentley 100%. pk objects to anything said against his buddy, Todd Bentley. Peter Kirks posts are sickening, illogical, and have one objective, to distort the truth. pk is not voicing an opinion. He is arguing with every single person who speaks truth about Todd the Fraud. pk seeks to cause confusion and listens to no one. Even when you M.F. have defended yourself, pk just goes on to his next accusation. and next. and next. And nothing will stop him. He is a Bentleyite. So I request M.F., that peter kirk be banned from this site. Comment by randy | January 13, 2009 115. The people I know have all ready communicated to the authorities about not receiving a tax receipt.

As should all people who have not received a tax receipt for their giving. They are also making US Customs aware of Todd Bentley fraudulently conning peole out their money, and not receiving a tax receipt. Blessings on all who report the fraud. Only by doing so, will we stop the fraud of Todd Bentley. Christianity means accountability! Comment by randy | January 13, 2009
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Randy, have you read this post of mine? Hardly defending Todd 100%. But see my comment #29 on this post at this blog, and consider whether what you call truth about Todd the Fraud is in fact a lie repeated too often. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 13, 2009

117. Peter, I know as a fact that the FBI, the RCMP and other Law Enforcements as well as the IRS and Revenue Canada have been made aware of Todds crimes and fraud and in due season we will see the fruit of their labors! Comment by brad | January 13, 2009 118. Its very interesting that all big mouths including Peter Wagner and Carol and John Arnott who had a lot to say at Todds commissioning have nothing to say now about Todd giving them the finger and not repenting from his adultery but rather causing them more embarrassment with his letters posted on this web site recently! The other thing that I have noted that most so called Apostle with the NAR or Revival Alliance dont have any university education never mind a Masters or PHD degree and as a result cannot debate things in public or to any great depth but rely on stupid one liners such as touch not Gods anointed, only God can correct pastors, how dare you question me? etc! Yes they are really stupid fools about whom the public is becoming very much aware because of Todds many sins, deeds and false words! Comment by susan | January 13, 2009 119. Susan

A university education, although of some benefit is not the be all and end all. I would never sneer at anyone who did not have higher educational qualifications. Absense of education does not make someone stupid or foolish. The disciples were unschooled men

 though they knew the scriptures better than most Bible college grads and they had been with Jesus and sat under His teachings for three years. A lack of eloquence again is not the criteria for godliness but most of these in the nAR have the gift of the gab and natural charisma. These men are not fools for lack of education C Peter Wagner, the daddy, for instance, look at him! They are fools for they set themselves against God, they love darkness more than light, the oppose his word and hate truth and lovers of truth. They rely on one liners and cliches because it is the most effective cult tool to control and to deceive. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 14, 2009 120. I would never sneer at anyone who did not have higher educational qualifications! Miriam What I noticed is that many people without a higher education cannot read or talk about more than one page of material at the time, while the educated ones can handle pages of documentations. Miriam I have enjoyed the fact that you have a good memory and great grasp of what is the real problem with all these deceivers. When I realized that Peter Wagner and Ted Haggard were partners and Tedd defended John Arnott, then I knew they were crazy and off the wall! And the fools at NAR or Revival Alliance dont know their scriptures at all and dont even bother to try to back things up with scripture. They rely on one liners because they are not only stupid but are demonized! Comment by susan | January 14, 2009 121. Susan

I disagee with you. Many of them are not stupid [some may well be a bit dumb, but I do not particularly like the expression or the comparisons based on intellect alone which can be a bit prideful] I think many of them are very clever, and conniving, albeit very foolish at the same time. I am not sure anyone could rightly say that Francis Frangipane or John Paul Jackson are lacking in intellect albeit they are lacking in knowledge of the undistorted word of God. Bob Jones and Todd Bentley on the other hand give new levels to the idea of dumbing down . But all four are dangerous. All of them live on people not knowing the scriptures for themselves, not knowing how to discern, and generally being dumbed down and seduced in a mind control mode. Though some are clever they deliberately dumb down the rest of the church and in various ways take away the word of God that reveals them just like the other

dominionists the Catholics did before them. Some of them do know the scriptures very well, but like Satan deliberately and manipulatively twist them. Others are sincerely blind. But dumb or clever, sincere or deliberate deceiver, they equally lead astray. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 14, 2009 122. The mark of education in ancient Israel was knowing the law front and back. There were many extremely educated men in the Bible including Moses, Solomon, Ezra, Nehemiah, Ezekiel, Luke, Paul, etc. Lukes command of prosaic Greek alone was superb, and Pauls philosophical learnedness was immense. Universities are the product of a Hellenistic world. A university education certainly isnt needed to be a true apostle (or any other ministry for that matter) of Christ. But I would think that it would make them quite a bit more rational (in a Christian sense) in their approach to scripture and spiritual reason. Reason and discernment go hand in hand. I really dont like the disdain within streams of charismania towards education. They think it somehow makes you worldly as if using our mind is some sort of platonic fold, as if it will make us unable to experience anything spiritual. Id call myself quite educated yet still able to see into the spiritual realm and operate prophetically. *sigh* But yes, there always is a danger of trusting in your education and wisdom over and against God. We must always walk that fine line of humility. Comment by David | January 14, 2009 123. Pat Holiday in her article Beware of False Prophets writes

Sadly, Christians are falling into the traps of Satan through their trust of wealthy, prominent, religious men and women who no longer preach Jesus Christ or the Bible. In these last days many Christians have not had their mind renewed through the Word of God. They have not been sanctified through the washing of the blood of Jesus. Their faith centers around Christian icons instead of Jesus Christ and His purpose of giving them salvation to enter into His Kingdom. He never taught us to seek a kingdom on this earth that is calling all religions to come into religious unity. So many in the Christian Church have become cold and lukewarm. They have given their minds over to forms of Better Homes and Garden and Disney World Christianity and lifestyles that are just seeking after material things and emotional experiences. Jesus is rarely preached. (Rom. 10:17), So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Are you listening to preaching that consists of stories about the minister, his or her family experiences, or you giving to them so that you can get some money to increase your depleted bank account? Many of these preachers are living sumptuously like kings and queens in multi-million dollar homes while you sit overwhelmed by debt. Im telling you, that you are NOT

listening to the real gospel. Repent for seeking after God the Father as a sugar daddy instead of the God that sent His Divine Son Jesus to save you from your sins to give you eternal life. Rededicate your life to Jesus and ask Him where you can go to receive the true Gospel. The Bible warns, And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God, (Rom. 12:2). SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT UNIVERSITY EDUCATION OR THE LACK OF IT BUT LISTENING TO FALSE PROPHETS INSTEAD OF GOD! Comment by walter | January 14, 2009 124. Walter or Pat Holliday

I notice an ebook Pat Holliday is selling about the testimony of someone who claims he lived in a cities under the sea for 12 years or something like this. I have concerns about the truthfulness of this account do you care to talk it through with me? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 14, 2009 125. I only read some of Pats books so I sent her an email to explain all this as I myself would be quite interested in her response! Comment by walter | January 14, 2009 126. Thanks Walter! Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 14, 2009 127. Yes, Brad, Im sure various government bodies have been bombarded with accusations against Todd. But, as I have said before, they can and will do nothing at all without evidence. And if there is any evidence I have not seen it. Susan and Miriam, indeed a university education is not a prerequisite for effective ministry, but Peter Wagner has several: * B.S. Rutgers University (summa cum laude), 1952 * M.Div. Fuller Theological Seminary, 1955 * Th.M. Princeton Theological Seminary, 1962 * M.A. Fuller Seminary School of World Mission (Missiology), 1968 * Ph.D. University of Southern California (Social Ethics), 1977

I cant easily find information on other NAR apostles, but is it actually true that most of them dont have a higher education? This seems unlikely since most have been pastors and a degree or equivalent is usually a requirement for a pastorate. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 14, 2009
128.

http://www.qaya.org/blog/?p=975 (peter kirk)

Quote: I look forward to the day when Todd will be restored to a ministry which will be even more powerful than we have seen at Lakeland. (claimed and written by Peter Kirk.) You are such a fraud Peter Kirk! Comment by randy | January 16, 2009 129. Randy, thanks for linking to my post. But what do you think is fraudulent? I am entirely honest in the sentence you quote. Somehow I think you have forgotten what fraud means. Comment by Peter Kirk | January 16, 2009 130. Peter Kirk youre a looser. I copied the definition of fraud from the Websters Dictionary to ETPW. Guess you still cant read. I request again Miriam, that pk be deleted. His agenda is to argue and harass and promote Todd Bentley. Comment by randy | January 17, 2009 131. It looks like peter kirk won an award for his blogging!!! (of lies) He is worse than i knew! http://thechurchofjesuschrist.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/peter-kirk-defends-todd-bentleyencourages-lawsuit-needs-habits-to-prove-adultery/ Comment by randy | January 17, 2009
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hahahhahahahaaahahhhaa http://scotteriology.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-christian-borat/ Comment by randy | January 17, 2009

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Randy

This was my response on scotteriology re Peter Kirk. >>> words like liar and deceiver refer to those who do wrong habitually, not just once. >>>EVIDENCE of repeated wrongdoing >>> Character assasination! Oh ha ha this is so ironic but it is grievously sad. Everyone who loves truth and seeks wisdom knows Todd is a habitual liar and deceiver in numerous facets of his life, not just his marriage, which has always been the least of my and the critics of Bentleys many issues with him. Peter Kirk refuses to look at the evidence. Why do you hate God and truth so very much, Peter? It aint just the adultery and all the lies about the adultery, Peter! People were saying Todd was a habitual liar, fleecer, heretic, charlatan and provided all the evidence for it and you just aint interested and make excuses or outright lie and/or bury your hand under the sand. There is evidence of many hundreds of lies literally. That is repeated wrongdoing in anyones book. Lakeland came down because of all the lies. If Lakeland your beloved revival were even 0.01% of what it was claimed to be, medically verified healings would have been provided to the media. But they were not, not one single one of them. You have also never given me an explanation about how the Todd and Shonnah Bentley and children happy-family-charade on stage and the associated manifestations to do with the healing family anointing at Lakeland, has to be false ie multiple verbal lying and lying manifestations and this even by Dave Bentley and Todd Bentleys own testimony, if we believe it. But regardless there has to be lies as it does not add up. And then we have Todds claims to the Wagners {Peter and Doris] in June [at the commissioning/alignmment] that God had healed his marriage, etc. Explain that? You cannot without facing up the fact there are repeat lies going on. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LIES EVEN IN THIS ONE SPECIFIC INSTANCE. And as for 2-3 witness to the affair, Peter Kirk has them but ignores them. Even those from his own heretical camp C Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, Rick Joyner, John Arnott, Robert Ricciardelli, the Fresh Fire board members etc. Your pope, C Peter Wagner said it went beyond kissing and holding hands and that activity is bad enough and still adultery.

Also an elementary question a schoolchild should be able to answer if no adultery went on, then why is Todd being restored for it or on schedule for it? Derr basic elementary question?! No adultery and no restoration needed right? Peter Kirk will contiually use any excuse he can to avoid the truth why? He deleted all the verified comments by Ricciardelli, proven to be actually by Ricciardelli, because he did not like their content about the affair having gone on longer than Lakeland, and then added insult to injury by making excuses and distorting as to why he removed them from his site. He hates the truth about Todd and Lakeland. As for the character assasination/libel, Kirk has had no qualms at all about criticising and slandering me [in the true sense of slander - the definition being untrue and defamatory and unproven and not based on fact, not merely speaking out a warning about evident proven facts openly on view in the public domain] . It is only ok to criticise on his side. How come it is Ok for him to criticise and not me? the hypocrit! He calls the Bentley critics demonised. Yet they tell the truth and use an equal plumbline, are not hypocritical with dual standards, and align with scripture and facts in their comments. Kirk does not but feels free to criticise without evidence or proof and despite the glaring facts. So just who, if anything, is more likely to be demonised here? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 18, 2009 134. wow. Quite the response. Youre right. Todd and pk could both be hit by a truck load of truth, and they would both still not repent. The word repent is not in their bible. They are deceived, dangerous, and awaiting destruction. How sad. I was praying earlier. Spending time with God. And I thought, how separating their words, their actions, are, from the Love of God. Makes me feel dirty just reading their words, hearing their sins. Todd Bentley and Peter Kirk lead people to lies, not life. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. bam, bam, bam, is not of God. As evidenced by zero verified healings like you said above. My other thought was Todd Bentleys claimed miracles including a Pastor, and James Golls wife. Both died. I pause here, because some think this is funny, or a game. Well, people have died. I take this all quite seriously. You dont play with peoples faith, hearts, and hopes.

You dont prophesy in the name of Jesus, lies. It takes a truly wicked, wretched, disconncted heart to do that to other people Todd Bentley wicked! Or to lie for a wicked man of such sins peter kirk You both need to repent, Todd Bentley, peter kirk, for your heart is not right before the Lord Comment by randy | January 18, 2009 135. Is this Jessa in yellow dancing at approx 2.02 mins at the Rick Joyner bash on 08.08.08? Comment by Soul | January 24, 2009 136. Fresh lies Ministries: JANUARY 23, 2009 BOARD OF DIRECTORS UPDATE Todd Bentley has resigned from his involvement with Fresh Fire Ministries Canada and will continue a process of restoration under the capable leadership of Rick Joyner and his association. Because Todd founded Fresh Fire Ministries, we feel it appropriate and honorable to give FFMs name to him to use as he chooses when he starts ministering again in the future. We here at FFM are in the process of changing our name (Ya, no doubt. And since when it Todd in restoration? lies) we are sending our ministry associates with the Fresh Fire DNA to encourage local congregations through teaching and a demon stration of the supernatural Look out!!! The freshFIRE DEMON stration is coming to a church near you! I nominate ffm for the Christian Borat Award. They put so much spin on this letter, you can fall down reading it. Make me sick. Comment by randy | January 24, 2009 137. If Todd ever does return, I hope he is held accountable at least by the civil authorities. By his own admission he has illegaly assaulted many people, even to the point of knocking a guys tooth out. This is illegal, and he should be attested for it. He is not above the law. Comment by wconquet | January 30, 2009

138. I saw Todd and Jessa in a Brizillian resturant near Sacramento California on New Years eve. and I think his other top friend Wes who lives in Sacramento was with him. of cause when I was leaving I passed him and said you look familiar have you been on TV he was quick to say No! as I was with my 4 kids I could not quiz him any further. Anyone else think that as his fruits are not looking very good and Jesus said by Their fruits you shall know them we can say he is not going with God if he is continuing a relationship that came from a divorce. not the fruit of a true follower of Christ. Comment by all4Jesus | February 1, 2009 139. Well said. Todd still in adultery with Jessa bell (get it?) makes all Christians look bad. Who would EVER want to become a Christian after seeing Todd, his sins, his unfaithfullness in marriage (again). Todd has destroyed so many innocent hearts, one can only fear what God has in store. Better that a millstone. I would love to get Jessas last name and write her parents. Maybe they could talk some sense into their marriage wrecking, adulterous, prodigal daughter. Funny how so little is known or said about her. I would be interested in more facts on Jessa bell. Comment by randy | February 3, 2009 140. Todd bentley and Jessa hasbrook are now married. Comment by iknowmore | February 16, 2009 141. Where did you get this info Iknowmore? Comment by endtimespropheticwords | February 16, 2009 142. I have been told on good authority that Todd Bentley went to Nevada late 2008 and there finalized his divorce, which can be done in that state in a matter of weeks. He is now married to Jessa, and will shortly re-launch into ministry through Rick Joyners ministry base. Comment by teddies rule | February 23, 2009 143. If true, (Todd marries his mistress), what does the Word say about doing things in a dark corner? Hmmm Is there confirmation of Todd Bentley marrying Jess Hasbrook yet?

Comment by Randy | February 25, 2009 144. My, My, My You realy had a fall. What can I say Todd you are a greate actor. We the believers surely learn a hard lesson and I pray to God that Ill never lean on any Prophet any more but just let my eyes be fix on Jesus. This time you fly to high and satan himself demolish you, hope that the Christian People learn a hard lesson out of this. And Jessa you cant build you happiniss on someone els hartsore. Did you ever think about the children and what will it do to them. Comment by Hester Smit | March 7, 2009
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See also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/todd-bentleymarries-jessa-hasbrook/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | March 10, 2009

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see also http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/rick-joynerannounces-todd-bentley-remarriage-and-the-start-of-restoration-process-while-beggingfor-cash-for-fresh-fire-usa/ Comment by endtimespropheticwords | March 10, 2009

147. I think it is really BIG of all of you to cast judgements on people you dont even know. I live in Sacramento and do infact know Jessa and Wes. You should stick to the facts. Yes it is wrong of Todd to get a divorce. Do any of you have a pastor who has had a divorce and been remarried? How about have any of you got divorced and remarried? If so, you really have no room to talk. This is between:God and Todd, God and Jessa, and God and Shonnah. Not all of you. I always say to people. dont judge the things of God by the People who say they follow God. Just take Judas for instance. If we judge Jesus authority by what Judas did in betraying Him. We would not even have christians today. Just think about things before responding to them. Comment by heartbroken | March 10, 2009 148. i have no comments about todd but i do want to say that i know 3 people personally who went to lakeland and were healed. one had a chronic illness, and pain from the ages of 4-11 and was bedridden on heavy pain medication and was instantly healed. another had a brain injury from a car accident and had tremors and so forth and was instantly healed.

so God can still move through weak men, if those asking for healing call on the name of the Lord. thank you. Comment by tiffany | March 27, 2009 149. Todd wants this to be the greatest reconciliation story. Todd wants this to be the greatest marriage. It appears to me that Todd cant speak much without the word great as an adjective in any sentence referring to himself and his circumstances so some one needs to let Todd on a little Jesus secret found in Luke 9:46-48 The problem is that the two individuals assigned to Todds reconciliation and restoration cant deal with this greatness syndrome that some of the first 12 Apostles struggled with because they both have the same ideology of grandeur and empire building ,ups, sorry I meant to say legacy building which is a much more acceptable and friendly word and term now days instead of empire. What these 3 ministries do is attract those who have not as yet been broken and contrited and who somehow think by aligning themselves with these ministries they will become the greatest this or that prophetic or healer or 5 fold minister. Like attracts like. Human nature. Can we attract a following for teaching the least among us? This stuff is all so sad and hardly worthy of comment Comment by Tekoah | March 27, 2009 150. Dear endtimes,

I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago and maybe you did not see my post, but I wanted to know our thoughts on 2 people that attended the lakeland revivial and several months later were diagnosed with cancer. Is there any connection? And if there is how can we explain such a thing. I wrote to you a while back in the heigth of the revival and told you about my pastor getting all tangled up in the lakeland debacle and systemacily brgan taking members OF the church to lakeland. Well, two of the girls got cancer after months of attending this revival. Can you shed light? I am really shocked by this. Please help Comment by Carmen | March 27, 2009 151. HEB 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

1TM 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, soberminded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 1TM 3:12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. Dear heartbroken What you say or think doesnt matter because its not based on Word of God but your own thoughts! For the record, Jesus didnt tell the adulterous woman at the well that her adultery was alright nor did He approve of the adultery of the woman in John 8:10. Rather He told both women to go and sin no more! And Todd has disqualified himself from the ministry because his sin was premeditated and willful and he will pay for this brazen stubborn act that has brought shame and dis reproach on the body of Christ. HEB 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,10:27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 10:28 Anyone who has rejected Moses law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. And because Jesus Christ is not a liar thought Todd Bentley is as well an adulterer and a thief, we have a guarantee from Jesus that unrepentant Todd Bentley is going to be in hell for practicing lawlessness!: MT 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? 7:23 And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness! Comment by WALTER | March 27, 2009 152. Hi Carmen

I did respond to your last comment before, but here is the answer again Yes I do think there is a possible connection, as similar bad fruit manifested after the Toronto Blessing [same false spirits and false people and bad theology behind it] as well as sexual impurity and all sorts of other horrible stuff. I advise your church and these girls to repent and renounce Lakeland and its prophets and apostles as they are a cancer on the church

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JESSA BENTLEY VS. FIREPROOF I write this not so much in anger, but with a sense of extreme grief. Two things converged (hows that for a good buzzword?) in my life this last week. Actually, its better to say they clashed rather than converged. First: a few days ago I discovered that Todd Bentleys trophy wife, Jessa has about 650 Facebook friends. (Look up Jessa Bentley on Facebook). Second: My wife brought home a movie called Fireproof, which we watched last night. I will not presume to judge the eternal destiny of Jessa Bentley. Only God knows whether shell repent or not someday. But we are called to judge in a discernment sort of way (diakrino as opposed to katakrino). And this woman is so blatant and in your face about her adulterous marriage that it stuns me. Nearly 2,000 years ago a little leaven (sexual immorality, in the context of the Corinthian passage) could affect the whole church. But that was only one little house church in one city! Now, thanks to the internet, Jessa Bentley can leaven at least 650 people on Facebook alone! People not just from one little church, but from all over the planet. This woman seems quite influential; these charismatic Christians obviously have no problem with her adulterous marriage; and that she wrecked a home, devastating a woman and her kids. As a result, her many friends are much more likely to follow suit once they start facing temptations and having troubles in their marriages. Since God seems to approve of Todd and Jessa, then why should he have a problem with me and woman I meet at the gym next week? To use a boxing analogy, on one side of the ring is a new spiritual heavyweight champion, Jessa Bentley. And on the other side is a feather weight fighter: a low-budget movie called Fireproof. In spite of the films low budget, its pretty well done. After about 15 minutes I could almost forget that Kirk Cameron had cut his own throat by starring in the Left Behind movie. And the message was so powerful: marriage isnt a mere contract of convenience; its a sacred covenant. In the same way that a fireman is never to leave his partner behind in a fire, a Christian is never to leave his/her partner behind in marriage; no matter how rocky and miserable it gets at times. The characters in Fireproof are both on the edge of divorce. Both have the Todd and Jessa option. But instead, they actually chose the cross. Camerons character genuinely repents (utterly changes his thoughts and actions toward his wife); and in doing so saves

his marriage. Most Christian movies are pretty cheezy, but this really packed a punch. Twenty minutes into it, our 13-year-old son commented, Im gonna get counseling BEFORE I get married! When it was finished, my wife and I were quite grateful that wed stuck it out during the bad times, and had come through them. And we were much more determined to keep hanging in there in our marriage, till death do us part. This low-budget film is becoming quite popular among American Christians, and even many non-Christians. But it doesnt have scope and reach and money that Todd and Jessa have. Once Joyner gets the Bentleys fully re-established, theyll be high-budget crowd pullers. Jessas 650 F.B. friends will probably grow to 6,500 or more! If Jessa Bentley and the movie Fireproof can be imagined as two boxing contenders, Jessa can pack some really heavy punches and perhaps emerge victorious for the dark side. But my hope and prayer is that the little, low-budget movie Fireproof will defeat the Jessa spirit like David did to Goliath. Please pray that the message of this movie prevails over the apostolic/prophetic message of lawlessness. And please promote the movie to as many people as possible. Word of mouth and good networking can really help. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | March 28, 2009 154. Dear endtimes Thank you for responding. Do you have any scriptures to support this? I do believe you, I have felt it in my spirit ever since the pastor came back from lakeland. he is a new man and not in a good way. How can I share this with them where they will understand. Any ideas? Thank you for your help. I appreciate you. Carmen Comment by Carmen | March 31, 2009 155. Carmen

There are lots of scriptures that show how the way of the false prophets leads to death, and they are cursed. Heers one mentioning sickness and/or death striking followers of the way of Baalam and Jezebel, that is committing spiritual adultery with the false prophets Rev 2:21-23 And I did give to her a time that she might reform from her whoredom, and she did not reform; I tell you that I am about to cast her upon a bed of sickness, and I

will severely afflict those who commit adultery with her, unless they repent of conduct such as hers.and I will strike her children with death.. Comment by endtimespropheticwords | March 31, 2009 156. My brother who is a Pastor, called it from the beginning and he was right. He said it was demonic. Comment by sabinspirations | April 25, 2009 157. Sorry if this sounds shallowbut besides being demon filled, Todd Bentley is physically repugnant. He really must have put a spell on Jessa. Comment by DoubleGrace | April 28, 2009 158. Oh just some info on FIREPROOF this movie was made by people affiliated to the NAR. Same producers as Angus Buchans Faith like Potatoes. Comment by Discerning The World - DTW | May 2, 2009 159. Amazingly it seems most of the links on this page to Jessa have been removed or blocked. Comment by Sven | August 14, 2009 160. Wow you have to admit Jessa looks very very pretty. Say what you like about Todd, but he has great taste in women! Comment by Ross | September 15, 2009 161. Ross,

A spiritually-minded mind would say that a man who has great taste in women would look for a Proverbs 31 woman. The carnally-minded man says what you have just said. Comment by Ray | September 15, 2009 162. Oh Ray, lighten up a little. Look at Jessa and be honestshe looks lovely!! (come onbe honest!!) As for Proverbs 31 , well I hope she is such a woman for Todd. But I guess Todd and myself also look for Song of Songs 4:1-7 women as well. Lets go for both Ray! (yes a little gready I know) Not a lot of point having a Proverbs 31 woman Ray if she looks like the back end of a bus!

Comment by Ross | September 16, 2009 163. Ross, you reveal your ugly self every time you open your mouth with a comment. Give us a break dude. Comment by Exasperated | September 19, 2009 164. Ouch Exasperated!! That was a very nasty posting. I am not ugly as you suggest and I wouldnt say I am a dude either. The name Exasperated by the way means out of patience or to make angry or impatient. Going by your posting it would appear that you are trying to live up to your name. That is a shame. Maybe you could get Todd to pray for you some time. Comment by Ross | September 23, 2009 165. Ive noticed that false doctorine and sexual sin seem to go hand in hand where there is one there is the other. Comment by opinion | October 17, 2009 166. Opinion I havent actually noticed that. I think if that was true then there would be a huge amount of sexual sin for example among the Jehovahs Witnesses or the Roman Catholics. I am sure there is sexual sin there, but sadly it seems to be all too prevalent right across the board. Silly Todd Bentley had an affair with this lady of course and did huge damage to the Body of Christ because of that. So much of the world was looking at him because of the media coverage, and he made a huge mistake. Very sad. He knew much better than to do that. Im disappointed in him. Comment by Ross | October 21, 2009 167. I cried so hard during these videos. I have been trained to do deliverance. You can actually see how Todd is getting people possessed instead of interceding. You have to be trained in it. You have got to test the spirits when you hear spirits!!!! Its very clear in the bible. You cant take back these kinds of mistakes. This is not just some drunken ride. You have to be careful because you are playing with peoples hearts and stabbing them in the backs. If Todd new God he would know how he feels about these assaults on his children. Todd Bentley is CLEARLY an immature man child set free on this country. None of these old wise men tried to stop him. Was the money they got from Todds circus worth it? This country needs God fearing, God loving and God knowing ministers. I cant wait for them to show up. Thats when these false prophets will be tore down. It cant come soon enough. Comment by Rebekah | April 5, 2011