private conference held on 6th feb 2007

seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:39:47 pm): bade badai na karen, bade na bolen bol
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:10 pm): heera mukh se na kahe, lakh hamara mol !!!
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:40:22 pm): whats this/
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:27 pm): topic will be started by ego
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:40:39 pm): this is doha of saint kabir ji
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:41:09 pm): he was a great mystic, most of the guru granth sahib is
influenced by sant kabir ji ki bani
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:41:52 pm): hm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:42:44 pm): in these lines, kabir ji explains the characterstic of masters
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:43:13 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:43:24 pm): he says that a complete master wud never publicize himself
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:43:33 pm): neither he talks about his powers
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:44:06 pm): hmm
yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 10:44:52 pm): seeker6 has joined the conference.
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:44:59 pm): hey vipin
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:02 pm): they dont show magics or anything like that
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:45:09 pm): yuo
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:11 pm): they take care of their pupil in all forms
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:45:41 pm): wots the topic bhai?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:45:46 pm): diamond never says that i am valuable
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:46:04 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:46:05 pm): true
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:12 pm): its not that there is only one master.. there are several persons
who ahve knowledge
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:20 pm): who can asnwer the most of queries
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:46:22 pm): who all of us are ther?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:24 pm): but again they are not complete
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:46:27 pm): n wots the issue?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:40 pm): simran / vipin/ krish/yogita/gaurav
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:46:45 pm): and seeker1
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:04 pm): n topic?
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:47:07 pm): we r disscusin great mystic mr. kabir
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:47:12 pm): hmm
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:14 pm): i dun know no seeker1..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:20 pm):
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:47:29 pm): he he
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:30 pm): k..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:47:35 pm): bura jo dekhan mein chala.......bura na milia koi...jab dil khoja
apna, mujse bura na koi....
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:47:53 pm): jha kaam aye sui kha kare talwaari..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:06 pm): bingo!
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:32 pm): i ahve read him..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:48:34 pm): wait.. we need to understand the meanings of these as well
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:34 pm): a bit,.
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:48:43 pm): k.
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:48:48 pm): haan g
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:09 pm): i think he was pretty obvious..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:15 pm): i wot allhes said..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:50:17 pm): hmm
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:50:32 pm): no?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:50:54 pm): sheetal shabad uchaariye, aham maniye nahi
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:11 pm):
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:51:14 pm): tera pritam tujh mien hai, dushman hbi tujh mahi
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:51:25 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:51:30 pm): i agree 100%
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:32 pm): yep..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:41 pm): this is wot u too always say..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:46 pm): god iswithin all.
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:51:51 pm): n mind too.
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:03 pm): means.. when we will kill our ego, we would find a whole new
power in inner self
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:19 pm): until we have unconditional love for everyone we can do
meditation
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:26 pm): and henceforth we cant get him inside
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:52:28 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:35 pm): our greatest enemy is our mind
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:52:42 pm): i totally agree..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:50 pm): at stance mind is our frend too, but only when our soul is a ruler
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:52:54 pm): and mind is a slave
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:53:11 pm): hm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:53:13 pm): so until we kill our enemy and make it our slave
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:53:26 pm): we cant find our pritam [ almighty] inside
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:54:03 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:06 pm): khod khaad dharti sahe, koot kaat vanraay
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:17 pm): katu vachan sadhu sahe, aur se saha na jaye !!!
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:30 pm): again ... the need is to bring unconditional love in ourselves
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:54:32 pm): pls explain
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:54:39 pm): we have to implement this... not jst talk about it
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:54:50 pm): vanraay?
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:55:00 pm): only a somber can take all the crap rest give..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:55:06 pm): jungle.
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:06 pm): we dig this earth a lot, it never revert back..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:55:19 pm): i dont get it
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:25 pm): same with forests/trees.. we run axes on them.. but they dont do
any harm to us
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:43 pm): similarly.. only a holy person has the ability to accept the harsh
words of others
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:55:45 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:55:58 pm): it is not possible for ordinary man
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:04 pm): so we have to become that holistic person
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:56:05 pm): hmm...
seeker4 (2/6/2007 10:56:08 pm): correct
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:56:16 pm): i am getting the picture
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:25 pm): once a monk fell prey to chinese
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:34 pm): they treated him worse for 17 years
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:41 pm): once he had chance to run away..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:56:46 pm): he came back to india
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:01 pm): and when dalailama asked him that they had tortured u like
animals
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:16 pm): what you thought at those times..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:21 pm): he said i was afraid few times
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:29 pm): lama asked afraid ..of what?
seeker6 (2/6/2007 10:57:39 pm): k.. and?
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:57:47 pm): that my lov
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:57:57 pm): he said ..that if my compassion for jailor wud decrease
seeker2 (2/6/2007 10:58:16 pm): hm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:58:25 pm): see this is the characterstics we ahve to bring into ourselves
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:58:55 pm): i didnt get it....pls explain again
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:59:17 pm): well even the jailor tortured him to near to death several times
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:44 pm): u mean to say......that the monk left that place...so that he dont
develop any animosity against the jailor?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 10:59:45 pm): but this monk - being a true monk - had only fdear - that kaheen
uska pyar jailor ke liye kam na ho jaye
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:53 pm): hmm ok
seeker5 (2/6/2007 10:59:59 pm): then i understood correct
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:00:01 pm): fear*
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:00:04 pm):
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:00:30 pm):
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:00:52 pm): i like mahatma gandhi for this reason........u c not too many ppl
can stay calm at all times..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:01 pm): meetha sab koi khaat hai, vish hai laage deh
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:01:07 pm): hmm.
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:34 pm): neem na koi peevasi, sabe rog mit jaaye!!
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:01:49 pm): i agree.
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:02:36 pm): hmm pls explain
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:02:59 pm): we all are so involved in earthy affairs
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:03:09 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:03:18 pm): that we have molded everything thing as per our ease
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:03:36 pm): hmm ..go on pls
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:03:57 pm): so what happens is we love to eat non-veg.. we love to be social
drinker
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:04:13 pm): this is called meetha - means what our mind likes to do
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:13 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:30 pm): i know
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:04:42 pm): but all this is resulting as poison for our soul
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:44 pm): our mind tries to find out reasons or excuses for all these things
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:04:55 pm): i agree
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:05:07 pm): i have to go. ll catch you all later
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:05:10 pm): to cure all ailments of body, juice of neem is needed
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:05:10 pm): bye
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:05:14 pm): ok bye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:05:36 pm): but there are very very rare who can glugl juice of neem [ path
of masters - meditation ]
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:05:46 pm): hmm
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:03 pm): i wiil also ask you to excuse me..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:05 pm): yes mind is very very powerful
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:16 pm): sure.. u are excused
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:19 pm): bhai i dont say i disaggree..
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:26 pm): but i ahve my own doubts.
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:35 pm): doubts like ?
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:06:44 pm): which are sevrly confusing..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:45 pm): pls elaborate ur doubts..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:06:47 pm): brb.. 5 minutes
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:06:54 pm): k
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:06 pm): i need to also call it a night people..
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:07:14 pm): sim u can ask
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:16 pm): have an early mornin tomm..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:19 pm): ok
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:24 pm): wot vipin?
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:32 pm): u there yogita ?
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:07:37 pm): .. k my doubts u mena?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:07:39 pm): back
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:43 pm): k
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:07:46 pm): haan
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:07:58 pm): ya 9...what are your doubts
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:01 pm): mann ke bahu satrang hai, chin chin badle soy
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:08:04 pm): i want to understat
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:12 pm): ek rang mein jo rahe, aisa birla hoy !!
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:31 pm): yogit will be back in few minutes
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:08:36 pm): ok
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:08:48 pm): koi naa u continue
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:08:58 pm): simi we will talk about those when u join next
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:09:03 pm): ham dee ko archive send kar den ge
seeker6 (2/6/2007 11:11:21 pm): k nite people.
yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:11:24 pm): seeker6 has left the conference.
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:11:33 pm): ok
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:12:02 pm): bhai continue
seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:12:25 pm): m back
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:13:05 pm): back
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:13:10 pm): nice to see u back
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:13:11 pm): ok
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:13:58 pm): anyone has questions?
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:14:14 pm): ya i wanted to know the doubts
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:14:26 pm): nine had some doubts
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:39 pm): nine had gone offline
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:50 pm): her name is simran
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:14:54 pm): when she comes next we will discuss
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:15:22 pm): wot abt 9 and 8??
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:32 pm): mann ke bahu satrang hain, chin chin badle soy
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:42 pm): ek rang mein jo rahe, aisa birla hoy
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:15:48 pm): i think i heard someone ahd doubts
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:15:59 pm): again they are asking us to be strong enough that our mind
cudnt rule us
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:07 pm): we have to paint it with single color
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:37 pm): lesser wishes, simple living
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:16:46 pm): simple living, pure thoughts
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:16:52 pm): hm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:16:53 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:16:59 pm): but how easy are these ?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:05 pm): pure thoughts, loving heart
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:22 pm): loving heart, concentration
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:30 pm): concentration means meditation
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:45 pm): well until you try to implement you wud never come to know
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:17:55 pm): to taste the success you have to sit in exam
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:10 pm): hmm true
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:13 pm): very true
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:27 pm): is it possible to lengthen the time ?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:28 pm): if we ask our parents to study for us and give the exam, we are
not going to achieve the qualification
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:33 pm): strech i mean?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:46 pm): well lengthen the time means - still mind is at work
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:18:58 pm): mind wants all arguements
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:18:59 pm): no..i mean the real time
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:02 pm): soul needs path
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:19:12 pm): i have noted one thing..
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:19:13 pm): kal kare to aaj kar, aaj kare to ab
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:30 pm): yes here comes the answer - we are not sure of what happens
next
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:19:39 pm): so why dont we do the advanced booking ?
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:19:52 pm): hm
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:20:04 pm): belive in now
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:20:11 pm): main meri jab jaayegi, tab aayegi aur
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:20:15 pm): i felt that 24 hrs in a day to be preety long when i dont some
meditation
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:20:18 pm): and enjoy evry moment of it
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:20:26 pm): jab ye nischal hoyega, tab pavega thor !!
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:20:35 pm): dont=do*
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:23 pm): brother until we kill our ego and desires
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:28 pm): nothing will change
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:30 pm): not even a bit
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:38 pm): mind is an active agent of evil
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:21:57 pm): u try to put it off... it gives u another thought
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:22:41 pm): but as a born human being can u really kill your ego ?
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:22:58 pm): i tried several times..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:08 pm): but i guess needs to work hard
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:11 pm): it isnt easy
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:15 pm): i am not saying its impossible
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:17 pm): well until you surrender it will be there
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:24 pm): see when you come to implementation
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:28 pm): it is very much possible
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:28 pm): everything is related to another
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:30 pm):
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:35 pm): yes
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:23:36 pm): so purity comes automatically
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:37 pm): i know
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:41 pm): everything is related
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:23:55 pm): even this body is related to soul..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:24:11 pm): and unless u can detach these 2 , u cant really kill your even the
smallest of your ego
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:35 pm): see surrender means - you are care free
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:38 pm): he is taking care
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:43 pm): you cannot make any change
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:24:52 pm): you have only control on your karmas
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:24:59 pm): seeker1...tell me one thing
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:17 pm): is it important to get married ?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:33 pm): personal wish
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:39 pm): noone asks you to get married
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:25:46 pm): noone stops you in getting married
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:47 pm): no its not about personal wish..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:54 pm): at one point theres karma....
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:25:57 pm): theres dharma
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:02 pm): see
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:09 pm): every breath is making karma over here
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:11 pm): every thought
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:26:13 pm): then on other hand u have to kill your ego
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:29 pm): and at the end - ek ek soch ka hisaab dena hoga
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:26:35 pm): because though becomes our actions
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:26:47 pm): i agree that ek ek soch ka bhi hisab hota hai
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:27:00 pm): but karma has bigger role
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:27:31 pm): unless the soch transforms into physical self..ie karma...it looses
its significance
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:27:51 pm): so getting married and if your question is about sex and other
responsibilities - yes - masters say that living in this society and then daily practicing death
[ meditation ] is the way
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:20 pm): it isnt easy...
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:34 pm): well brother - again we all know that it is not easy
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:34 pm): there are desires offcourse.....when u are born as an individual
or human
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:42 pm): but when we do .. it becomes like feather
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:28:47 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:28:49 pm): he takes care of it
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:29:13 pm): we dont have to kill desires but we have to limit them
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:29:30 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:29:53 pm): its very difficult to stay neutral
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:06 pm): and those who say marriage is not important
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:14 pm): so here goes the word 0
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:30:26 pm): to love something is itself a desire
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:29 pm): parnari ki yaachna, jyun lehsun ki khaan
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:30:30 pm): i never said its not important
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:30:49 pm): kone baithe khaiye, pragat hoye nidaan!!!
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:12 pm): see there are lots of questions
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:13 pm): explain pls
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:26 pm): so until we get the whole concept in mind ...questions may keep
on arising
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:34 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:31:39 pm): true
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:31:46 pm): uska matlab tha
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:32:39 pm): if u wish for antisocial affairs, its like eating garlic
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:32:52 pm): even u commit all crimes and bad deeds in corner
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:11 pm): but when you meet masters - they smell garlic without even say
anything
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:12 pm):
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:33:29 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:43 pm): and here goes for a mind
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:33:57 pm): padha suna seekha sabhi, miti na sanshay shool
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:16 pm): kahe kabir kaso kahun. ye sab dukh ka mool !!!
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:34:17 pm): mean?
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:26 pm): means we learn , we hear
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:31 pm): we understand everything
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:44 pm): means he has provided us with all facilities to let us understand
the wisdom
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:34:59 pm): but this mind keeps on arguing, and this is the reason of all
sorrow
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:35:16 pm): hmm
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:35:42 pm): right
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:37:39 pm): vishay vasna ulajhkar, janam gavaaya baat
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:37:51 pm): hmm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:37:59 pm): ab pachtavaa ka kare, nij karni kar yaad
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:38:22 pm): on the judgement day, soul cries
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:38:31 pm): hmm
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:38:35 pm): true
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:38:52 pm): kabir ji says, why didnt u understood all this when he made all
possible arrangements to get you wisdom
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:13 pm): now crying afterwards is useless, soul has to suffer
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:19 pm): and it is not anyone else
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:39:23 pm): it is you only
yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:40:08 pm): seeker4 has joined the conference.
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:40:40 pm): i gotta go now....i got early morning wake up plus i am not too
well health wise..
seeker5 (2/6/2007 11:41:00 pm): bye everyone
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:41:11 pm): bye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:41:13 pm): bye take care
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:41:14 pm): good night
seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:41:15 pm): bye...g'nite
yahoo! messenger (2/6/2007 11:41:22 pm): seeker5 has left the conference.
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:41:51 pm): guru kubhar shish kumbh hai, gadi gadi kadhe khot
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:04 pm): andar haath sanvaar de, baahar maare chot !!!
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:15 pm): written excellently for masters
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:32 pm): kabit ji says, guru is like kumhar who makes pots
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:47 pm): he takes out of impurities and stones out of pot
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:42:52 pm): and a disciple is pot
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:31 pm): as when he creates pots.. he keeps one hand inwards to give it
a shape
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:46 pm): and one hand outside hits the outer body to make perfect
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:43:52 pm): similarly guru..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:13 pm): enligten our soul by being attached to us always in astral form
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:44:42 pm): hm
seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:44:45 pm): ..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:51 pm): and feorm outside they make us to be strong for all kind of
issues/problems and they make it by saying their words
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:44:54 pm): instructions
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:45:40 pm): sheel shama tab upaje, alakh drishti jab hoy
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:45:56 pm): bin sheel panhuche naheen, laakh kathe jo koy
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:46:07 pm): bina guru ke gya possible naheen hai
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:46:26 pm): similarly.. jab tak wo hamen meditation ke through light tak lekar
naheen jata
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:47:13 pm): tab tak laakh jatan kar maaro... kayi rish muni chale gaye par us
highest planes tak naheen pohunch pata
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:47:38 pm): to bhaiya bina sampoorn guru ke gat naheen hai
seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:48:01 pm): hmm..
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:48:28 pm):
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:48:34 pm): kabira gyan bichar bin, hari dhondhan ko jaye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:48:53 pm): tan mein triloki base, ab tak parkha naye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:13 pm): without compelte knowledge we can keep trying to get to final
destination
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:18 pm): it is not at all possible
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:26 pm): he lives inside of all of us
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:38 pm): but until we dont know that hwo to find it
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:49:48 pm): we can keep trying but nothing wud happen
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:50:06 pm): a complete master can give this wisdom that how to reach to
higher planes.
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:50:33 pm): agar insan zindagi bhar upar wale ko sacche dil se bhagta rahe
par koi guru na ho tab bhi he will not reach to final destination
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:18 pm): yes tab bhi naheen
seeker4 (2/6/2007 11:51:20 pm): kalyug main to kaha jata hai ki zindagi bhar uparwale ka naam
lo mukt ho jaoge
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:23 pm): sache dil se yaad kiya
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:25 pm): achaa kiya
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:51:43 pm): he wud take next birth and will be provided will all facilities to
learn wisdom
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:52:05 pm): master knows that which soul is next and from where
seeker3 (2/6/2007 11:53:03 pm): last line ka kya matlab hua
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:53:33 pm): each soul is destined for a master
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:02 pm): master knows that what soul has mark for him and thats why
masters take care of him/her without even their knowledge
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:24 pm): kaami tare, kridhi taare, lobhi ki gati hoye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:54:41 pm): salil bhakta sansar mein taarat na dekhya koy
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:05 pm): kabir ji kehte hain ki, kaami, krodhi and laalchi - master ye sab
defect door kar dete hain
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:15 pm): aur unko paar laga dete hain
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:55:30 pm): par sharab ka sevan karne wale ke liye koi gat naheen
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:56:49 pm): satguru mila jo janiye, gyan ujala hoye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:01 pm): bhram ka bhanda todkar, rahe nirala hoye
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:31 pm): when our soul feels attraction we say ki master mil gaya
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:32 pm): no ..
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:57:56 pm): satuguru tab milta hai jab hamare andar gyan ka prakash
ghoonjta hai
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:08 pm): hamare saare kab kyun kahan kho jate hain
seeker2 (2/6/2007 11:58:09 pm): hm
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:32 pm): aur hame shanti prapt hoti hai...jo kisi padhe likhe vidwaan ko
kabhi prapt naheen ho sakti
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:58:58 pm): bandhe ko bandhe mile, choote kaun uppaay
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:59:14 pm): jo mile nirbandh ko pal mein le chudaay
seeker1 (2/6/2007 11:59:46 pm): this is a fact that today if we go to seek a master - humko
disciples se jyaada guru milte hain

seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:00:10 am): leking sampoorn guru ki talaash ek kathin preeksha hai
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:00:53 am): doori ka matlab ek hans hi samjha sakta hai.. kuen ka mendak
to kuen ke barabar ki chalaan ko doori keh ke byan kar dega
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:20 am): to aise pe kya depend hona jiske khud ke haath bandhe hue
hon
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:01:22 am): hm
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:25 am): wo humko kya paar lagayega
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:01:38 am): hm
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:01:49 am): hamen usko milna hai aur uska haath thamna hai jo humko
yahan se sach mein le jayega
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:02:25 am): a perfect living master is very very hard to find
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:02:40 am): bhai um amazed ki aaapko ye saaare kabir g ke learn hain
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:02:56 am): no mere k yaad naheen hain
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:10 am): again .. mereko koi kitaabe pothiyaan padhne aur ratne ka
shauk naheen hai
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:20 am): par matlab samajh mein ana chahiye
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:27 am): it is old wine in new bottle all the time
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:03:43 am): xactly
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:03:46 am): no matter watever the instrument we play - same music will
come out
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:03:56 am): same case
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:02 am): we see lots of examples
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:11 am): so that we can better understand these parables
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:04:55 am): bhai aapko abhi kisi guru ki pukkar aaie kya..... abhi tak
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:04:56 am): dekho chahe hum ek line padhe, ek page padhen ya poori
kitaab padhen
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:04:57 am): ?
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:05:16 am): har line ka matlab same hain
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:05:25 am): now it depends on us how much time we take
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:26 am): meaning and destination is same
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:39 am): bhai aapko abhi kisi guru ki pukkar aaie kya..... abhi tak
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:05:41 am): ?
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:09 am): i tadap agar in lafzon mein naheen hai to mere aanson mein bhi
naheen hain
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:15 am): jo apne aap girte rehte hain
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:38 am): meri testing chal rahi hai
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:06:43 am): ooo
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:52 am): bekaar purze ko wo apni factory mein kaise use kar lenge
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:06:57 am): quality testing chal rahi hai
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:05 am): oops
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:10 am): gud luck
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:18 am): luck bhi usi ka banaya hua hai
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:21 am): we too coming for r
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:07:25 am): refinement
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:42 am): doctor sleeping ?
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:07:50 am): nahi nahi
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:07:52 am): lol
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:04 am):
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:08:04 am): silent spectator
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:08:12 am): silent inspector
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:08:13 am):
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:14 am): nahi yaar
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:08:17 am): ha ha
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:08:28 am): silent mode se bahar nikaliye didi
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:08:51 am): woh possible nahi hai abhi
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:09:03 am): vibrator par to aa sakti hai
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:09:05 am): lol
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:35 am): knock knock doctor
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:09:42 am): haan...
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:43 am): i know ur haalat
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:09:44 am): lol
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:53 am): but stay calm
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:09:55 am):
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:10:03 am): i know that u 'know'
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:07 am): cmon
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:09 am): cheer up
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:11:16 am): lol
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:18 am): and come out of questions
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:11:18 am):
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:11:32 am): thoda time to lagega
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:11:38 am): no
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:04 am): dear sister listen
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:07 am): naaaa dee
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:14 am): aise nahee
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:17 am): one
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:24 am): when we start walking .. we fell down several times
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:40 am): but at last we become athlete some day
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:12:45 am): is answer for all ur thoughts
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:12:48 am): so there is always a first time
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:13:21 am): lik seeker1 bhai just waitin for finish line to come
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:32 am): god knows dear
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:13:44 am): hmm..
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:47 am): but i am being assigned with other task
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:56 am): perhaps again my testing
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:13:57 am): lol
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:14:12 am): g maaalik
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:27 am): i hv to pick some other brothers and sisters and push them to
track
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:54 am): ab ye to wo hi bata sakta hai ki uski raza kya hai
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:14:57 am): na main poochta hun
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:15:07 am): na main mana hi karta hun
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:15:09 am):
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:15:13 am): that will again add
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:15:40 am): hmm..
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:31 am): bhai aaaaj kal aaapkeee meditation ka kya time chal raha hai ?
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:39 am): and deeee aaap bhi batao
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:16:39 am): dekho jinne vi bade bade mahatma si .. sant si
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:16:40 am): ?
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:16:51 am): onaan ne naam te guru di khoj kiti kayeee saal
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:19 am): taaan jaake pooran guru labeya
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:39 am): e vi mukkaddaraan da khel hai..
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:17:54 am): ho sakda hai sada padosi hove
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:06 am): ho sakda hai sat mulk paar hove
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:18:14 am):
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:18:17 am): palle nahi pad raha hai
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:28 am): doctor will let u understand
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:18:32 am): i will come back in 5 minutes
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:18:37 am): nooooooooo
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:42 am): ha ha
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:47 am): il l
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:18:53 am): dnt worry
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:18:54 am): vipin has mat..u do it
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:21:55 am): m on phone
seeker1 (2/7/2007 12:22:03 am): doc pls explan to gaurav
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:22:46 am): see what happn some times kii while walkin on road and
searching for the xact address we pass through the same so many times but jab proper guidance
is there(lik guru ) tab v get the xact place...... and thn v realize o yaaar yahan se to abhi gaya
tha........
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:23:15 am): ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:23:17 am): means wen time come master wil guide us
seeker4 (2/7/2007 12:23:19 am): okay
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:23:46 am): seeker1 bhaiya is saying....that many great saints searched fr a
perfect master fr years and years together
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:24:17 am): and atlast they encountered "perfect master"
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:24:36 am): this is all game of destiny
seeker2 (2/7/2007 12:24:53 am): hmm and time
seeker3 (2/7/2007 12:25:11 am): ur master can be either next door to u or maybe countries away
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