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@ColinTGraham If it is your first time, don't try to follow everything, just interact with one
or two people and don't forget the hashtag --> #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:01:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71364870079119360 - #2
@ColinTGraham If you tweet over 140 characters, it is better to put #mathchat near the
beginning of your tweets, and protected tweets will not show... ;-)
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Fri May 20 00:02:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71365093178347520 - #3
@ColinTGraham Today's topic is "What does or should a student maths journal look
like?" and was =1st in the voting with last week's... #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:03:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71365329619652608
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@ColinTGraham Maybe it was all the Monday people who voted for this
topic....#mathchat
Fri May 20 00:06:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71366116777263105 - #6
@cybraryman1 #mathchat NOW "What does or should a student maths journal look like?"
Fri May 20 00:13:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71367880750542848 - #9
@cybraryman1 When I briefly taught math I had the students keep their own Math
(Maths) Glossary that they illustrated themselves. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:14:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368236557541377 - #10
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 Funny you should ask, Jerry. I happen to have some
links... ;-) #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:15:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368291154804737 - #11
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 I think it's too easy to get caught up in concepts and
forget that recording and communicating is important for maths #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:15:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368521174626304 - #12
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@simplyquadratic #mathchat I have never had students keep a math journal but I would
want there to be examples of probl solving, analysis, conjectures proofs
Fri May 20 00:15:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368535024209920 - #13
@Mstew15 I really didn't vote for this one...just to cover my own...:) #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:16:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368608919453696 - #14
@ColinTGraham @simplyquadratic Hi Sheri, glad you found us! Which of the items on
your list would be most important, do you think? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:17:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71368928714162176 - #15
@ParrisFund #mathchat definitely think it should show that they're understanding the
concept of what's being taught, opposed 2 just memorizing things
Fri May 20 00:18:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71369056183255040 - #16
@ColinTGraham @Mstew15 I don't always vote for the top choice myself either! It doesn't
stop you having thoughts and opinions though... #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:18:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71369137041059840 - #17
@Mstew15 @simplyquadratic same here. I call it their notebooks, and divide a three
subject into glossary, work, & examples sections #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:18:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71369235615584257
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@mathonthemind RT @ColinTGraham: OK, I'll wait five more minutes and if no-oneno
responds, then today is a non-start
start and the Monday chatters will put you to shame...#mathchat
shame...
Fri, 20 May 2011 00:21:00 +0000 - tweet id 71369797920763904 - #21
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind Hi, glad you could join us. The topic is "What does or
should a student maths journal look like?" #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:22:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370092750979073 - #23
@mathonthemind We have been using a math journal this year at our school. We are a
1-1
1 laptop school and use an online program for #math. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:23:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370370074157056 - #24
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@cybraryman1 I think students having maths journals will help them with the concepts
that they are learning #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:23:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370407990665216 - #25
@Mstew15 #mathchat def different. Just not sure how I would use it myself.
@ColinTGraham
Fri May 20 00:23:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370458230042624 - #26
@mathonthemind Our journals have had the lesson title at the top of the page, and a line
down the middle of the page. Notes left, examples right. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:24:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370626291601408 - #27
@ColinTGraham @Mstew15 That's part of the problem, I think. Most of us probably never
consider that having a journal just for maths would work. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:24:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370734332690433
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@mathonthemind I think next year the journal should have a problem given. The students
write the problem at the top, solve it, then explain #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:25:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370838640832512 - #29
@mathonthemind I feel they should be able to solve the problem as well as explain how
they solved in words. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:25:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71370985969950720 - #31
@mathonthemind I think with note taking, it is very important, but we should be allowing
them to try and work the
e problem in their own way. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:26:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371173249818624 - #35
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind So does being able to explain carry the same weight
as the solving then? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:26:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371215876521984 - #36
@mathonthemind @cybraryman1 I think the problem with blog their work is that it is
difficult to show equations in typing. Students would struggle #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:27:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371428326412288 - #37
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@ParrisFund @ColinTGraham Framing the concepts and also a space for them to record
notes from each lesson #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:27:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371481204002816 - #38
@mathonthemind However, sharing how they solved problems and explaining in words
would be great to share in blogs #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:27:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371548061204481 - #40
@Mstew15 #mathchat all that you are all saying goes in my regular notes...two
notes...tw column
notes, pictures to clarify, examples...what's a journal for??
Fri May 20 00:28:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371595112910848 - #41
@goralkai @cybraryman1 Would you let them use the math journal on the
test?#mathchat
Fri May 20 00:28:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371752231550976 - #44
@mathonthemind @mstew15 The journal would be the students sharing HOW they
solved the problem. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:29:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71371955932102656 - #47
@mathonthemind The difficulties with #math is that there are more than one way to solve
problems. Students need to explore those other concepts. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:30:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372115416326144 - #48
@mathonthemind A #math journal would be a great way for them to share how they
solve problems differently. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:30:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372213512712192 - #49
@ColinTGraham @Mstew15 Well, that is a good question. What is a journal for? Why do
some people keep diaries or journals of what they do daily? #mathchat
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
Fri May 20 00:30:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372261298413568 - #50
@simplyquadratic #mathchat @cybraryman1 I would say yes. Can anyone share a link
related to this?
Fri May 20 00:30:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372268416151553 - #51
@mathonthemind Students also would be able to see how their work has changed and
their thoughts of how difficult or easy a problem was. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:31:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372378868948992
7137237886 - #52
@mathonthemind It's the same as #english class having a journal to keep their thoughts.
It's a way to get inside their heads. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:31:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372506317078528 - #53
@cybraryman1 I also see the maths journal as a way their parents could see what they
were doing in class #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:33:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71372945842380801 - #58
@ezka29 #Mathchat we regularly use journaling qstns in our senior secondary setting. We
found a whole math journal too onerous.
Fri May 20 00:37:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71373874922668032 - #64
@mathonthemind @colintgraham I think that if we can write back to the students as well,
they could get inside our heads. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:37:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71373899685826561 - #65
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 Would you have shown your parents your journal...?
maybe even more sensitive for teenage girls than boys! #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:37:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374009442385920 - #66
@mathonthemind @parrisfund So could we just drop the journal and make #mathwalls?
A place where we put up a problem and ss just write under it? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:38:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374136861138944 - #67
@mathonthemind A #math wall would allow ALL students to share their thoughts and all
to see what others are thinking. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:38:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374226480824320 - #68
@ezka29 #Mathchat I would also feel that a marked maths journal would turn into a do as
I say activity.
Fri May 20 00:39:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374375898714114 - #69
@cybraryman1 @ColinTGraham It all depends on the relationship you have with your
parents #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:39:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374485441363968 - #70
@ParrisFund @mathonthemind Not a bad idea, especially if all students are comfortable
with sharing #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:41:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374896382480385 - #73
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind I do like the idea of responding to what students say
in journl, I don't think 'grading/correcting' is good though. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:41:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374993300267008 - #74
@mathonthemind @colintgraham The new Common Core Math Standards in the US will
have a writing portion. Students must explain their work. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:41:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71374998056599552 - #75
@mathonthemind @colintgraham Should the grading be did/did not do? Do they have to
write in it daily? Weekly? Requirements? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:42:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71375264680132609 - #78
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind All students sharing their thoughts and seeing what
others think is collaboration. Is that journalling? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:43:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71375524907319296 - #80
@Waukeestudent RT @ezka29: #Mathchat I would also feel that a marked maths journal
would turn into a do as I say activity.
Fri May 20 00:44:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71375649813708800 - #81
@Waukeestudent @mathonthemind I dont always have something to say, thats why I like
my independent blog, write as I want. #mathchat
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
Fri May 20 00:46:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376145605595136 - #85
@mathonthemind @colintgraham I'm not sure how the writing pieces are going to go
right now in the Common Core. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:46:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376263306149888 - #87
@Waukeestudent @mathonthemind I like the wall idea, use some of that chalk board
paint or a big whiteboard. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:47:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376459964481538 - #88
@mathonthemind I remember tests that if you did not use the correct terms, then you
missed the question. R the terms important or the concepts? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:47:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376489228148736 - #89
@ColinTGraham If students 'had to' write something down in the last ten minutes of every
lesson, what do you think would happen? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:47:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376575853109248 - #90
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind The bigger question may be: How does writing
something down in a journal affect or change your understanding? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:48:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376813942784000 - #92
@mathonthemind Also, with the #MathWall,, students could come in before or after
school and read it. Probably having discussions over it as well. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:49:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376852312276992 - #93
@Waukeestudent @ColinTGraham you would get some junk writing because they would
see it as useless. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:49:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71376938022879233 - #94
@mathonthemind @colintgraham I think having students reflect and write helps build the
understanding. However, daily mand. writing will get old. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:49:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71377065563267072 - #95
@mathonthemind When students are asked to reflect constantly, they become robots or
bored with the concept of reflections. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:50:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71377186594107392 - #96
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@ColinTGraham @ezka29 If teachers found it "onerous for time", do you think this was
because they didn't understand what journalling was about? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:50:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71377279476969472 - #97
@mathonthemind A #MathWall would also allow students to go up, mark out/erase their
previous thoughts and change them. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:51:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71377557836152832 - #99
@mathonthemind Students don't go back through journals to reread what they wrote,
seeing it on a wall they might change or + to their thoughts #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:52:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71377816888942592 - #102
@SusanDElia What if building a math reference guide for life became a work in progress,
work of art over the course of a student's life? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:53:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71378025366818817 - #104
@ParrisFund Like that idea too! RT @Waukeestudent put up a daily question or problem
and they can solve it as a "bell ringer" activity. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:54:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71378149954428929
7137814 - #105
@ColinTGraham @mathonthemind Do you know for a fact that students become "bored
with the concept" or is this just a general impression? #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:54:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71378180006608896 - #106
@Waukeestudent @ParrisFund it is less formal and would be more fun. Could be used to
decide the days differentiation needs. #sbar #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:56:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71378677044224000 - #112
@mathonthemind I've enjoyed the chat, have to go tutor now. Last session, his final is
tomorrow. #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:57:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71378963641008129 - #113
@Waukeestudent @ColinTGraham I think so, I like reflecting but I like doing it my way.
Make it open ended. #mywayorthehighway ;) #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:57:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71379015683948545 - #115
@ColinTGraham @SusanDElia That is a great idea. I think showing students that great
mathematicians like Ramanujan kept notebooks would help too #mathchat
Fri May 20 00:59:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71379540592689152 - #118
@SusanDElia Reference guide, journal, mathwall (like that!)... whatever you choose could
be a wiki or blog - a living
iving doc that welcomes input #mathchat
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
Fri May 20 01:00:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71379685145194496 - #120
@ColinTGraham Well we got there, eventually! Thanks to everyone for your contributions,
and great to see some new people too! #mathchat
Fri May 20 01:04:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71380748581601280 - #124
@SusanDElia Yes! you can buy them, but not the same as creating them urself RT
@ParrisFund: @SusanDElia Operative word there is 'reference'... #mathchat
Fri May 20 01:05:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71380966425370624 - #126
@ColinTGraham @SusanDElia Maybe part of the problem is that many maths teachers
don't see the value of journals and/or don't know how to do them #mathchat
Fri May 20 01:06:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71381209267175424 - #127
@ColinTGraham OK, we'll leave it there for today. Let's see what Monday's #mathchat
has to say!
Fri May 20 01:08:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71381823812411392 - #130
@ezka29 #Mathchat so hard to get really involved when maths chat is on during the
middle of our teaching day! Thx everyone
Fri May 20 01:09:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71382011570421760 - #131
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?
@SusanDElia @ColinTGraham Agree, vision, seeing value is #1 barrier. Use store
bought
ht ones as idea guide, leave to kids to build, design, own #mathchat
Fri May 20 01:09:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 71382035696066560 - #132
Friday, 20th May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like?