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@ColinTGraham As always, if your tweets are protected you may want to unprotect for
the next hour or so, and don't forget the hashtag --> #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:05:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63755633861738496 - #4
@ColinTGraham Given the context of the last two weeks' discussions, "digging deeper"
could be extension/further investigation or planned! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:08:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63756434877333504 - #9
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Wow - almost had to depart. The words: "Did you know she
had a rock in her teeth?" #parenting #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:09:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63756721386033152 - #11
@ColinTGraham @halebone Hi Haley, did you sort out your tech issues? ;-)
; #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:13:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63757728421646336 - #22
@halebone digging deeper happens naturally when students are engaged ... and not at
all when they are otherwise. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:13:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63757875641716736 - #23
@ColinTGraham @mathfour @padgets Need to bear in mind that the ability to question is
part of "doing mathematics" so needs to be encouraged... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:16:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758425905037312 - #30
@halebone and dif. when std have been trained to ask - who's right? RT
@wilderlab:#mathchat”” Difficult when teachers emphasize rightness or wrongness
Fri Apr 29 00:16:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758493529804800 - #31
@delta_dc The idea of "being done" is also an issue with getting students to dig deeper.
#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:16:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758519865839617 - #32
@mathfour @wilderlab If we assume everything is right (or everything is wrong) and the
proceed from there... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:16:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758524353748993 - #33
@padgets #mathchat well this usually happens after we conclude a lab when they start
asking first
Fri Apr 29 00:17:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758669715734529
63758669715 - #35
@mathfour @delta_dc OH! I had a prof that would return proofs for redo - over and over
ALL semester! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:17:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758750862942208 - #36
@wilderlab “So cutting off avenues of exploration is discouraging. #mathchat” Yes, and I
frequently see right vs wrong... one way, the teacher's way
Fri Apr 29 00:17:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758791631581184 - #38
@republicofmath I've had success with just saying: "you could dig a little
deeper"#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:17:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63758828981858305 - #39
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Nope - I really ask that. I never give them body language or
tone that gives the "right" away. I let them decide. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:18:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759025652768768 - #43
@mathfour @vtdeacon @ColinTGraham And if a student is wrong and confident it in, I'm
okay with stopping there, too. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:19:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759253097295873
6375925309729 - #44
@republicofmath Noting in #mathematics iss ever finished. We can always dig deeper.
@ColinTGraham @delta_dc #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:19:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759261573988352 - #45
@ColinTGraham @republicofmath With what ages? I could see this working with
'engaged' students at any age, but others...? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:19:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759284487458816 - #46
@mathfour Simple. Nice. RT @republicofmath: Ive had success with just saying: "you
could dig a little deeper" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:19:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759365865349120 - #47
@MrT_Ro In order to get students to dig deeper in math, I like to ask students to solve in
more than one way and then make connections. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:19:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759373113110528 - #48
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham A product (proof, solution) can be finished but I want learners
2 B aware that there's always a "what if" to explore #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:20:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759550423113728 - #51
@halebone But, the success we're aiming for includes looking for extensions ... so, we're
never really "finished" ... just ... paused. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:20:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759621025832960 - #53
@mathfour Good one! RT @MrT_Ro: I like to ask students to solve in more than one way
and then make connections. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:21:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759823170314240 - #55
@padgets #mathchat sorry watching the Big Bang this is awesome (as i tweet)
Fri Apr 29 00:22:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759932595515392
6375993259551539 - #56
@climeguy The more engaging it is the deeper they will dig. The devil of course is what
we mean by "engagingly mathy" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:22:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63759992485974016 - #57
@delta_dc I've gotten in the habit of giving questions on exams that my learners cannot
possibly finish so that they focus on doing math. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:22:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760069208182784 - #58
@MrT_Ro The Ont. math curriculum states, "Using a variety of strategies..." for many
expectations which encourages digging deeper in math. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:24:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760473295826944 - #64
@republicofmath @climeguy. I also find that if I ask them to dig deeper they become
more engaged. They feel the power of their minds working #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:24:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760573376118784 - #66
@mathfour @republicofmath
cofmath I think we usually are. Alas, I'm delayed in my RSS feed or
you would have seen more of me. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:24:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760576773505024 - #67
@delta_dc @halebone these are preservice teachers but I would do the same thing at
any level. Here's an example http://t.co/MagfvaC #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:24:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760606334943232 - #68
@mathfour Use the force, Luke. RT @republicofmath: They feel the power of their minds
working #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:25:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63760802800353280 - #69
@ColinTGraham @mathfour @republicofmath The key key point to 1st principles is defining
the min number of postulates you can base assumptions on #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:26:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761093545299968 - #72
@mathfour @MrHonner I prefer to just stand back and make sure no one gets hurt. They
create their own questions AND answers. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:27:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761217914802176 - #73
@climeguy I like posing neat phenomena that sparks their interest & questions. The
followup
ollowup questioning will make it go it deeper. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:27:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761321811906560 - #75
@mathfour @republicofmath There IS a dress code in most U.S. schools, you know.
Coverage is taken very seriously. #mathchat
Friday, 29th April 2011 How do I get my students to dig deeper?
Fri Apr 29 00:27:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761354108047360 - #76
@ColinTGraham @republicofmath You have to define what you are assuming at the start
as being 'fact' or 'true' before you go farther... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:28:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761613072764928 - #79
@MrHonner @mathfour Knowing how to get out of the way is important! I also do what
you do, challenge correct answers. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:29:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761707268448256 - #81
@MrHonner My standard response to "Is this correct?" is "That is a very good question".
#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:29:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761798762987520 - #82
@mathfour @ClimeGuy That's assuming that what you pose will indeed spark curiosity.
#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:30:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761918267113473 - #83
@climeguy Caught you guys on a Starbucks (free wifi) break. Gotta go. Will definitely be
back. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:30:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63761997501710336 - #84
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham
ColinTGraham @republicofmath conditions R important - & often ignored.
But once in place then there is chance to play "what if?" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:30:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762032385724417
637 - #85
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @republicofmath Gotta start with, "Assume..." But I'm not
sure how many assumptions have anything to do with it. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:31:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762318391132162 - #89
@ColinTGraham What do you need to accept as "true" before you can define area,
area for
example... Is 1+1=2 always true? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:31:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762334761496576 - #90
@crombies Just checked today, 12 algebra classes left for new material to cover and 2.5
chapters to go! Better talk fast...#mathchat
#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:32:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762532460011520 - #93
@MrHonner Well-structured
structured projects are also great for digging deeper, because it's
usually easy to suggest ways to do a little more. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:32:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762544522821632 - #94
@republicofmath I don't see 1+1 =2 as digging deeper. I see thinking about binomial
bi
theorem in terms of counting block towers as digging deeper. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:33:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762747950759937 - #98
@republicofmath Yeah:
h: "what if ...?" @ padgets #mathchat love the what if question :0)
Fri Apr 29 00:34:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762940909715457 - #103
@padgets @mathfour #mathchat goodness don 't make me tweet in there! LOL LOL darn
missed the soup again!!!
Fri Apr 29 00:34:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63762955946295296 - #104
@MrHonner @republicofmath That name sounds familiar: you've mentioned him in a blog
post, yes? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:35:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63763191552950273 - #107
@ColinTGraham The depth of digging could be going farther into the topic or going
g
backwards to the assumptions on which the 'facts' are based #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:37:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63763835202453504 - #115
@mathfour @MrT_Ro @ColinTGraham Whoa, there, killer. I think elementary is the best
place to dig deep. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:37:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63763896359600128 - #117
@mathfour @padgets And then they decided that to write the book right, it would need a
book or 20 before it to REALLY explain the foundation #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:38:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764102090203136 - #120
@mathfour @padgets "Bourbaki" wrote some of the most amazing math texts
ever.#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:39:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764330092564480 - #130
@mathheadinc @delta_dc Don't need a set plan unless you want or need to. The
connections will be made. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:40:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764459549757441 - #133
@EDUCATIONCEO RT @mrt_ro In order 2 get students 2 dig deeper in math, I like 2 ask
students 2 solve in more than 1 way & then make connections. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:40:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764534376144896 - #134
@EDUCATIONCEO @mrt_ro Believe it or not, some students get penalized if they don't
do a problem the way teachers
eachers wants, even they get it correct #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:41:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764695127031808 - #137
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @MrT_Ro Don't they? All the triangles I have around here
do. Do y'all have different triangles over there? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:41:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764772889432065 - #139
@delta_dc MT @mathheadinc "The connections will be made." << How can you be sure?
(not disagreeing, just asking.) #mathchat
mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:41:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764779055054850 - #140
@mathheadinc @delta_dc It's always been our experience when teaching calculus to
young people. You would be surprised. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:41:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764933803913217 - #142
@republicofmath Dig to a plan, and if that doesn't work, willy bloody nilly!! Whatever it
takes to go a little deeper. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:42:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63764962258075649 - #143
@mathheadinc @ColinTGraham Because those tchrs were never taught that, never
learned to explore on their own. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:42:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765121050230784 - #144
@mathfour @EDUCATIONCEO @mrt_ro @mrt_ro And I'm the girl to hunt them down and... well,
I'm from Texas. You know what I'd do to those teachers. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:43:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765274779852800 - #147
@ColinTGraham For me, the "dig deeper" is about encouraging Ss to ask questions
"Where does this come from?" "Where does this lead?" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:43:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765344455639042 - #149
@republicofmath Them !! @padgets #mathchat nope never heard of him her? my math
buds got me in the know
Fri Apr 29 00:43:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765406380343296 - #151
@mathfour I love Gary RT @republicofmath: Dig to a plan, and if that doesnt work, willy
bloody nilly! Whatever it takes to go deeper. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:44:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765451951448064 - #152
@mathheadinc @ColinTGraham Exactly! That has to start when they are little. College
can be too late for some. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:45:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63765893116735488 - #159
@MrHonner The infinitude of internet resources offer endless opportunities to dig deeper:
there's always something new just one cilck away! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:46:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766029804896256 - #163
@mathheadinc Also a goosie. RT @ColinTGraham And you can also ask "Are there
different ways to arrive at the same result?" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:46:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766173258481665 - #167
@ColinTGraham @mathheadinc College can be too late, but I have much higher
expectations of college students and kick them harder...they need it! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:47:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766254174994432 - #169
@mathheadinc @ColinTGraham
TGraham These days it's so much worse. More power to you,
man. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:47:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766372412428288 - #173
@ColinTGraham @EDUCATIONCEO The key point here is being able to say why the
answer
er is 'right', if that is what is important... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:48:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766537802235904 - #176
@padgets #mathchat stats of football (not soccer kind) drive me nuts talk about deeper!
Fri Apr 29 00:48:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766581339099136 - #177
@kristigrande @mathheadinc You've got that right! That's why we have to work very hard
to change this. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:48:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766680614092800 - #179
@stefras @republicofmath I tke 1st principles to mean approaching a task from scratch,
not testing postulates to minimize the number used. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:49:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766698045620225 - #180
@ColinTGraham @MrHonner Unfortunately, the "one click away" may (probably does)
does
encourage laziness and lack of critical thinking... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:49:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766764416274433 - #182
@mathfour @republicofmath Y'know - if you use tweetchat it crams the hashtag on the
end for you. Great for people like me. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:49:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63766925917958144 - #185
@padgets #mathchat we just did fossil dig diggin deep with geological time
Fri Apr 29 00:50:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767160522153985 - #189
@kristigrande @MrHonner That's true. We need to keep working hard to get these
resources to the masses. It's unbelievable how many don't know! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:51:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767244387262464 - #190
@mathheadinc @kristigrande Sadly, most teachers don't have the power. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:51:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767288196767744 - #191
@ColinTGraham @mathheadinc I often come back to the mental arithmetic... how did
you work this out in your head... write it down.... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:51:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767323659616256 - #192
@MrHonner @ColinTGraham Yes, the internet can enable laziness, but that's why we
need to teach students how to use it responsibly! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:51:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767378252673025 - #193
@mathheadinc RT @ColinTGraham I often come back to the mental arithmetic... how did
you work this out in your head... write it down....
down #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:52:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767453116805120 - #195
@republicofmath @mathheadinc Last semester I used Diff Eqs book that had all
answers to all problems. How to get there ... !! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:52:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767597681885184 - #196
@mathheadinc @ColinTGraham I say, " How will your teacher know how you got to the
answer? Put your thinking on paper." #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:52:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767668725002240 - #198
@mathfour @mathheadinc @ColinTGraham Saying "I want to know how they get the
answer" makes it about you. It's not about YOU! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:53:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767823620653056 - #200
@ColinTGraham @mathheadinc The "write itit down" often gets through to 13/14yo why
algebra is written the way it is... shorthand for sentences! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:53:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63767936048959488 - #201
@MrT_Ro What prevents students from digging deeper in math? Sometimes the learned
helplessness and lack of perseverance is disturbing
disturb #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:54:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768035256840192 - #202
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @mathheadinc Quit making kids write stuff down! If that's
not natural then you're killing them! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:54:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768054852616192 - #203
@halebone @mathheadinc Some stds want to know what work to show - like there is a
'right'
ht' or 'wrong' way to work it out in their heads. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:54:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768084795764736 - #204
@mathheadinc @kristigrande
@kristigrand They? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:54:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768121143599104 - #206
@padgets #mathchat okie dokie need to grade labs best get started lots of reading to do
Take care stay safe and tweet you all next time :0)
Fri Apr 29 00:54:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768172729344001 - #207
@mathfour @mathheadinc @ColinTGraham Your teacher doesn't need to know how you
got the answer. It isn't about us! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:55:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768216660475905 - #209
@kristigrande @delta_dc You're right! We have to keep modeling for teachers and
students! @MrHonner @republicofmath #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:55:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768359824670720 - #213
@mathheadinc @mathfour Ramanujan didn't write reasons to his proofs. He had to learn
to be taken seriously and so do math students. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:56:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768490561114112 - #215
@mathfour That, I'm okay with. @ColinTGraham: @mathheadinc ... shorthand for
sentences! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:56:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768496793853952
637684 - #216
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Doesn't have to be written, but I strongly believe that the
process must be recorded as well as the product/end-result
product/end #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:56:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768644680814592 - #218
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @mathheadinc Again, they they don't have to justify. They just
have to believe they are right. Really believe. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:56:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63768686670004225 - #219
@mathheadinc @mathfour If Ss are headed to college, they do have to justify it. That's
like writing a research paper without citing resources. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:58:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769014949781505 - #223
@mathheadinc YES!!! RT @delta_dc: Sharing their process also keeps a record that
learners can use to monitor progress & reflect #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:58:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769097019727872 - #225
@republicofmath Hmm! I have to disagree Bon @mathfour DOING math doesn't require
communication! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:59:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769220877524992 - #227
@mathfour @mathheadinc They don't have to justify squat in my math classes. College
math classes. And they do just fine. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:59:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769358874329088 - #229
@mathheadinc @mathfour Not if it's done the right way. No need to force. Show them
how the two ways are related. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 00:59:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769451371302912 - #232
@republicofmath If I don't hear words, see diagrams, see calculations, how do I know
they are digging deeper? @mathfour #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:00:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769497315704832 - #235
@mathfour We are getting "measuring" confused with "understanding" - you force them to
write
ite so you can measure their understanding. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:00:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769711351046145 - #238
@ColinTGraham OK, last thought: When we ask students to dig deeper, do we want to
see the hole or help them improve their digging technique? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:01:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769816602914817 - #240
@baevmilena @mathfour I am always nervous ss won't clarify assumptions and get all
answers "wrong" on a test or with others #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:01:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63769954016706561 - #243
@kristigrande @mathheadinc Why must it be written every time? We hold students back
by requiring things be done our way. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:02:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770025319874560 - #244
@ColinTGraham OK everyone, it's that time again! Thanks for your contributions...
#mathchat
Friday, 29th April 2011 How do I get my students to dig deeper?
Fri Apr 29 01:02:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770085373906944 - #245
@halebone @mathfour I don't think it has to be written. It's about getting stds to explain
how they know what they know. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:02:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770121566568450 - #246
@mathfour @baevmilena But that's about the measurement. We're talking the math and
digging deeper. There's a difference. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:02:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770136217272320 - #247
@mathfour THANK YOU! RT @kristigrande: Why must it be written every time? We hold
students back by requiring things be done our way. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:02:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770214147436544 - #250
@mathfour @halebone Again, that makes it about you. If they are getting it, they will
know. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:03:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770375514886144 - #253
@halebone @mathfour I think you can learn a lot about std understanding of concepts
through chatting w them. learning to explain is key #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770490644344832 - #254
@republicofmath Yes ti does: if it's not communicated it's not #math (Oh boy! )
@mathfour DOING math doesn't require communication! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770515185217536 - #255
@mathfour Math is as personal as underpants. The only person who really needs to
understand why you like what you do is you. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770566951309313 - #259
@ColinTGraham Feel free to keep going, I'll be archiving in about 10 minutes or so, and
we revisit the topic on Monday... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770567106510848 - #260
@delta_dc @mathfour @kristigrande I often suggest that learners pick just one problem
that they will share their think on - NOT ALL of them #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770620420292608 - #261
@mathheadinc @kristigrande Also, when they write work down, they can use their own
work as a reference. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:04:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770657472778241 - #262
@mathfour @republicofmath Yeah, we're totally going to have to step outside on that one.
#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:05:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63770915225350145 - #264
@mathfour @republicofmath If you define math as the communication of such ideas, then
indeed, you gotta talk or write. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:07:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771368994521088 - #271
@mathheadinc @kristigrande You may not :) but I do. It's why the
the kid's calculus program
works so well. They need to SEE their own writing. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:07:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771392499400704 - #272
@ColinTGraham @halebone @mathfour And how do they know that they know? Not an
easy thing to define... #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:08:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771478927220737 - #273
@mathfour @republicofmath If all all you have to do is HAVE such ideas for it to be "math"
then no, you don't need to talk or write. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:08:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771495922532353 - #274
@kristigrande @mathheadinc I agree. There are many reasons for writing work. It's when
never give alternatives to writing that hinders some Ss. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:08:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771641817214976 - #276
@mathheadinc @kristigrande Also, our experience has been that the more they write, the
more they learn, the more they see. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:08:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771687447035904
6377168744703590 - #279
@mathfour @halebone And that really depends on what you are assessing. State
mandated things, you're right. "Deeper digging"
d needs none #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:09:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771757181538306 - #280
@mathheadinc @kristigrande It's only one way. They write, use manipulatives, whatever
they can. Then put it all together. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:10:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63771995766128640 - #283
@mathfour @baevmilena Is the hippy expressionist dancer who's naked in the trees
doing her thing, not doing art because she's alone? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:10:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772124728393729 - #285
@kristigrande @mathheadinc I'm not saying they shouldn't write! I'm saying it shouldn't
be the only way we determine their understanding. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:10:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772162137407488 - #286
@mathfour @mathheadinc @kristigrande That's because you ignore the ones who don't
write (or can't assess them) #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:11:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772274058203137 - #287
@baevmilena @mathfour sure, I see your point. You can paint a pic just because you feel
like it. But won't you want to show it to someone? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:11:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772388344606721 - #290
@kristigrande @mathheadinc I agree! They learn from writing. They also learn from
making Podcasts and Videos explaining their thinking. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:12:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772502442254336 - #291
@mathheadinc @mathfour You assume too much. We don't ignore any students and
"assess" them all. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:12:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772527142502400 - #292
@mathfour Kristi's my twin sister RT @kristigrande: Im saying it shouldnt be the only way
we determine their understanding. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:12:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772588979126273 - #293
@mathheadinc @kristigrande You mention podcasting and videos. Most of our Ss are so
low tech, LOL! Practically avoid it like the plague. #mathchat
Friday, 29th April 2011 How do I get my students to dig deeper?
Fri Apr 29 01:12:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772731589668864 - #295
@mathfour @mathheadinc But you assess through means that you can see.
se If they think
math in a way you can't see it, you "ignore" progress #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:13:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772928684195840 - #297
@halebone Metcognition is getting lost if we don't ask students how they find their
answers. Deeper thinking cannot be reached w/o it! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:13:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63772948716195840 - #298
@FlyontheCWall good one! ;-) ; ) RT @colintgraham: @mathheadinc And you can also ask
"Are there different ways to arrive at the same result?" #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:14:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773008644411393 - #299
@delta_dc @kristigrande @mathheadinc - Brian Cambourne says that we talk our way to
understanding. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:14:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773020107456513 - #300
@mathheadinc @mathfour They show us in one way or another. Writing is just one of
them. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:14:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773084422905856 - #301
@mathheadinc Many students need to talk it out. RT @delta_dc: - Brian Cambourne says
that we talk our way to understanding.
understanding #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:14:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773236420288512 - #302
@kristigrande @delta_dc @mathheadinc Bea Harris says that we have talk about
learning
g B4 we can write about it. The natural process. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:15:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773414959226881 - #304
@mathfour @mathheadinc How about if they smile and breathe deeply and wiggle -
Daughter does that and I know she's
she understanding something. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:15:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773477726978048 - #306
@baevmilena @mathfour lol, I really liked the image of the hippy dancer! Agreed. We are
talking the same stuff. #mathchat
Friday, 29th April 2011 How do I get my students to dig deeper?
Fri Apr 29 01:16:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773532416507904 - #307
@delta_dc YES! > MT @halebone: Metcognition lost if we don't ask stus how they find
their answers.
s. Deeper thinking cannot be reached w/o it! #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:16:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773592537661440 - #310
@mathfour By the way, y'all. Wanna talk some really interesting math - #HSMath chat will
be discussing Living Math in 45 minutes or so. #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:16:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773727980130304 - #312
@ColinTGraham @dansmath
nsmath @mathfour Oh don't ask her to write anything, she'll bit
your head off! :-P #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:17:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773773769355264 - #313
@mathheadinc @mathfour True, I read my students very well. It's one way I
assess.#mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:17:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773781260386304 - #314
@ColinTGraham @dansmath @mathfour Oh don't ask her to write anything, she'll bite
your head off! :-P #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:17:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773918636412928 - #315
@mathfour @dansmath Well, dude, you can certainly prove that a system is commutative.
I gotta keep this stuff <140, y'know. ;-)
; #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:17:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63773937187819520 - #316
@halebone @mathfour agreed, sometimes you don't need to assess. but I think that 'how
you know what you know' is key to rich digging #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:18:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63774042192228352 - #318
@kristigrande @mathheadinc That's sad! Did you know that students can Podcast from
their cell phones? #mathchat
Fri Apr 29 01:18:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63774074081517568 - #319
@ckeech Cool! RT "@padgets: #mathchat we just did fossil dig diggin deep with
geological time” #edchat
Fri Apr 29 01:18:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 63774224350855168 - #321