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reponse spectra 2 Sep 08

13:31

When perform reponse spectra load case in X direction, there is always some forces in Y
direction. Sometimes the forces in Y direction is pretty large or even close to force in X
direction. Therefore the drift in Y direction is close to the drift in X direction.

So how to check the story drift? Just check drift in X direction by neglecting drift in Y
direction or use squre root of the sum of suqres of X and Y directions?

Thanks
zeemas (Structural) 7 Sep 08
5:15

what I understand is that when we define Response spectrum cases we already define
them the method for summing up the modes either by CQC or SRSS method therefore the
drifts we get are already combination from some of the modes shapes.
What I do usually is that I define Response Spectrum function with the name SX+SY,
SX+0.3SY and SY+0.3SX and check the drifts on this by checking Story drift option of
ETABS. If i get problem at specific point then I just go to that point and try to check out in
more detail.
Your comments are welcome.

Thanks
Zeeshan

lisica (Civil/Environme) 7 Sep 08


14:02

Hi...
The earthquake waves are comming from one direction. You don't need to sum the
influences from two ortognal directions.
Just analyse the influnce in two main directions (X i Y in most cases) separately.
lisica (Civil/Environme) 7 Sep 08
14:09

However, it depends on your local code. Eurocode 8 demands taking 30% of influence from
ortogonal direction.
So, it would be X+0,3Y or Y+0,3X.

xnyzhangshulu (Structural) 7 Sep 08


21:20

hi, lisica.
you mentioned that we needn't to sum the influences from two orthogonal directions.
However, the earthquake wave is 3D and can not accurately predicted. So many seismic
records show that the ratio of PGA for the two orthogonal directions is approximately
1:0.85. By square root of the sum of suqres of X and Y directions with the above factors, we
could get the orthogonal effects, Ex+0.3Ey or Ey+0.3Ex.
About the story drift check, I do agree with Zeeshan's viewpoints. Please refer to Chapter 4
Commentary of NEHRP 2003 for more details.
Waiting for your comments.
Shulu Zhang
lisica (Civil/Environme) 8 Sep 08
8:37

OK, I agree with you.


My code requires using Ex+0.3Ey or Ey+0.3Ex, so I am using this relation.
Thank you for your post

How to Compute Torsional Amplification for Response


Spectrum Analysis?
For a given direction of acceleration, the maximum displacements, forces, and stresses are computed
throughout the structure for each of the vibration modes. These modal values for a given response
quantity are combined to produce a single, positive result for the given direction of acceleration using
one of the modal combination method i.e. CQC or SRSS or ABS method.
In response spectrum case, computed result represents a statistical measure of the likely maximum
magnitude for that response quantity. The actual response can be expected to vary within a range from
this positive value to its negative.
No correspondence between two different response quantities is available. No information is available as
to when this extreme value occurs during the seismic loading, or as to what the values of other response
quantities are at that time.
To compute Torsional Irregularity and Extreme Torsional Irregularity as specified in ASCE 7-05 Table
12.3-1 item 1a and 1b respectively must be performed based on modes instead of response spectrum
case. The steps are given as follows:
1) Using Display > Show Tables > Modal Information > Building Modal Information > choose the
option for Table: Response Spectrum Modal Amplitude. This table provides the scaling for each mode
2) Now click on Define > Load Combinations > click on Add New Combination and choose Case
Name as Mode, provide the scaling for a specific mode and click on Add button to specify the mode
number. Add each mode in a separate load combination.
3) Using Display > Show Tables, look at the Table: Displacement Data > Point Displacements for
each mode.
4) Compute the average story drift at two ends of the building and compare with maximum story drift for
that specific mode.
5) Combine all modes using SRSS or ABS method to determine whether Torsional Irregularity or
Extreme Torsional Irregularity is applicable for your model
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