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Introduction
Most of the readers may be knowing by now about Nadi astrology,
since many articles have been published in magazines and
newspapers. Some books were also published and much exchange of
information has been taking place through internet and e-mail. For the
benefit of those who are not familiar with this branch of astrology I give
a brief background of the same from the reliable literature. Nadi
astrology was written on palm leaves in ancient India. It is mostly
prevalent in South India particularly in the Tamilnadu State. Its main
center is a place called 'Vaitheerswarankoil' near 'Chidambaram'in
Tamilnadu State. It is also available in some other places of Chennai,
Kanchipuram, Salem, Hyderabad/Secunderabad, Tirupati etc. There are
many Nadi Grandhas and they are named after Hindu Gods, Sages and
Planets such as Mahasiva Nadi, Brugu Nadi, Kowmara Nadi , Koushika
Nadi, Vashishta Nadi Agastya Nadi, Sapta Rishi Nadi, SatyaNadi
Chandra Kala Nadi etc. They are available in the languages of Tamil,
Sanskrit mainly. The palm leaves are held by certain families who read
the results from the palm leaves mostly by taking the thumb
impression and some from palm and birth data.
I also propose to discuss brief examples of actual readings from thumb
prints or otherwise from some nadi astrologers, their veracity with
respect to past and future, correlation with traditional astrological
principles, my experiences, opinion of others, doubts and questions,
further research required on the same. This is based on my collection
of data and research for the last three decades
History
Procedure
The Nadi Astrologer is generally busy and one has to take an
appointment with him a month before approximately When you go
there on the appointed day he checks his dairy and take the three
impressions of the right thumb for males and the left thumb for
females on a paper giving serial order number and ask you to wait till
he calls you. Then he goes inside his library room where the palm
leaves are kept which is not accessible to others. After an hour or so,
sometimes quicker, he comes back with an old palm leaf bundle called
index leaves. After making himself comfortable he carefully unwinds
the long string which keeps the bundle in tact. He tells you to answer
yes or no to his questions. With great devotion he takes the first palm
leaf and starts reading on one side. The reading style is of funny
accent in a poetic way, not understandable to even Tamilians. After
reading one or two lines or even less sometimes he asks you some
questions and you have to answer yes or no only. If you say 'No' he
proceeds to the other side of leaf or next leaf and continues his
questions. The questions are generally one or two at a time , such as
whether y our name is after some God /Goddess contains 3 or 4 or so
letters or so, starts ends with a particular letter in a Varga (series) of
the Hindu alphabets, Similarly about the names of parents and
wife/husband whether anyone of them or both are alive or dead,
number of elder and younger brothers and sisters, number of children
number of uncles, type of profession, whether you are born in rainy
season /summer etc. whether you are born in moveable /fixed/dual
Moon and lagna rasis, whether you are born in a particular Moon Birth
star whether you are born in a particular day in a particular year
whether your age is so and so etc. He says that h e does not know
what questions to ask unless he scans the leaves and that is why they
generally insist the concerned person or a person who knows every
detail about the persons consulted, should be present to answer the
questions correctly, otherwise they say the readings won't go wrong.
They do no bother much of you cannot answer questions about birth
date month age, Moon rasi and star, lagna and they seem to bother
more about matching of your name names of parents and
wife/husband. If he gets 'No' answers to all the leaves of the first
bundle which he goes back into his library and brings another bundle.
This process continues for an hour or so generally covering generally
up to bundles each consisting about 50 leaves or sometimes quickly
even in the first bundle till he and your are satisfied and the answers to
all the questions in a particular leaf are 'yes' only Concerning names,
parents, wife /husband, co-borns profession etc.
Then he goes inside and bring another particular bundle and reads in
poetic style your actual birth date month land year the astrological
birth chart with position of planets sometimes with lagna also exact
names of yourself, parents, wife/ husband, co-born, education,
profession and gist of future predictions in a broad way and this is
called General Kandam (chapter) of first bhava. You can verify the
chart given if you know your birth chart he writes the concerned verses
from the leaf in a note book . Then he records the same in an audio
tape with translation into common understandable Tamil or some other
languages with the help of a translator if necessary . He generally
charges a minimum of 300 rupees upto this General Kandam Then he
asks you whether you want to more details about any particular aspect
of your life such as marriage, profession, etc and if so he picks up
corresponding bundle and charges a similar amount extra for each
aspect which he calls it a separate kandam or chapter. Some chapters
give details about previous birth, remedial measures etc. At the end he
hands over the note book and audio tape to you with devotion and
takes money generally at the place where the photos of Gods /Goddess
are there.
Lines on the thumb are classified in 1008 types, some say 108 types.
Palm leaves are arranged according to these types. The Nadi readers
identify the particular types of lines on the thumb and the
corresponding set of palm leaves is taken. For example, a particular
type is called Conch Shell with a circle. Among these there are many
sub-divisions based on the number of dots on the thumb. Impressions
with 5 or more dots are very rare. The time duration to pick up your
leaf depends upon the identification of the thumb impression. Some
impressions are identified easily and the corresponding leaves are
found soon, for legal purposes, the whole thumb is studied minutely.
But they concentrate only on the centre part of the thumb and the sub-
divisions therein.
General Kanda
Profession Kanda
Shanti Kanda
Another Vasishtanadi in
Vastheeshwarankoil
Pariharam
"Bowing down to Lord Eswara, he is telling the parihara. You have got
some papas done in earlier life, on a Sunday Abhisekham to be done
for Kali, Sahasranama Archana, put red flowers garland and red cloth,
make 'mala' out of line equivalent to your age at that time, five times
pradakshina, feed 51 blind children, like that repeat for 21 Sundays,
the evening in Rahu Kala you should go to Durga and put deepam, by
means of doing this, whatever regards to sun you have committed will
be erased, once you do this pariharm, you will get all comforts in life,
with doing this with Good's blessings you will have Deergha Ayush
Subham".
I should comment here again that almost all past and future all past
and future events tell now correct except for some small mistakes here
and there, and they are not more specific as in the earlier quoted
Vasistha Nadi and here also Saturn transit only is mentioned. There is
a difference in the life span and parihara mentioned, though it is also
Vasistha Nadi but the reader is different. Here the ages of past events
are given in more detail. I did not do the prescribed remedies as Durga
temple also.
It would not be very easy to correlate and predict the events
specifically traditional astrological principles, as given by the Nadi
reader. Since 10th lord Moon is in Mars Exaltation house and Mars is
with Sun, we can say that the profession may be connected to
technical and government. Since 5th and 6th lord parivarthana
(exchange of houses) and 5th lord aspect by 12th lord Mercury there
can less be children. Since 3rd lord is Retrograde and parivarthana
with Saturn and Mars and 11th lord Sun in 11th house with 12th lord
Mercury, there can be less number of coborns. Since Saturn in 6th in
Meena Rasi aspecting 12th house, and one to being retrograde
considered to be in Kumbha aspected by 9th and 12th lord Mercury,
and Sun is with 9th and 12th lord foreign travels can be expected in
Saturn Dasa-Sun bhukti. The voluntary retirement can be expected in
Saturn-Venus period due to shashtashtaka (6thand 8th positions to
each other), Saturn in 6th house of service and Venus is lagna lord in
lagna giving self involvement and this combination is not considered
good as per 'Uttarakalamrutha' grantha when they are both benefit
planets. The publication of book can be expected in Saturn -Rahu
period Since Saturn aspects 3rd house relating to writings and Rahu is
in Jupiter Star connected to astrology. The study of transits of Saturn,
Jupiter , Rahu and Ketu may reveal these events . Anyway this would
be only a postmortem analysis unless one is very thorough with his
astrological principles and highly experienced to progress the chart
very professionally to prefix that exact future events before the events
occur. However, it would be highly impossible to tell the exact names.
My Experiences
I consulted Kowmara Nadi, Vasistha Nadi, Maha siva vakya tulya Nadi,
Kaushika Nadi, Kashyapa Nadi, Suka Nadi, Viswamitra Nadi, Vyasa
Nadi, Agastya Nadi, Skanda Nadi in Chennai, Salem, Kanchipuram,
Bangalore, Hyderabad, Secunderabad and Tirupati from 1968 onwards
till now for myself, wife, son and other friends. Only at places recently
at Hyderabad I was told that my leaf was not available and it should be
got from Vaitheeswarankoil.
Here are some of my brief reactions about the same;- After taking the
thumb print, nobody asked me my date and time of birth no different
appointments, nobody monitored behind the screen in other room,
being an astrologer myself I was very careful not to give any clues. In
the index scanning, leaf after leaf they asked whether moon star or
lagna in chara or sthira or dwiswabhava rasi whether my name and
names of wife and parents certain names after some God or Goddess
or contained certain number of letter, sounds of letters whether
present age is so and so whether coborns are so many numbers
whether parents alive or dead, whether born certain seasons year
month and dates etc Moon star etc etc They never asked the exact
ones and I never told the exact ones till end.
Now the real trick to tell exactly about your date of birth, names co-
borns etc comes into play. Even if an exact chart with degrees of
planets given can an astrologer tell these purely from astrological
principles may be if he is thorough with his subject highly experiences
but definitely no as far as telling the exact names probably in names
likely may sound unless h e has got some extraordinary psychic
powers . Then how do they tell with a broad chart. The exact past
events and names when the detailed charts of twins also differ. I did
not check the twins' charts with them and it would be worthwhile to do
that for this research. So at this stage there must be having some
method to correct the available nearest chart to give your readings. I
heard that they rewrite the leaves at certain intervals of time as per
the coding and system mentioned in some introductory to such to the
cycles of time I am not sure. Or their recitation of some mantra would
be enabling them to tell the events through some spirit.
How did Sage Satyacharya write in Dhruvanadi a life pattern for each
nadi amsha and, without fixing the nadi amsha one should not proceed
further and he did not tell how to tell exact names. Are these so-called
nadi readers are conversant with intricacies of astrology at all. I
interviewed with some of them with some astrological talk, while
reading they said they did not know much of astrology and said they
were trained for 10 to 12 years how to pick up and read the leaves.
Even if you cannot answer some of his questions pertaining to
astrological debut such as moon position, moon star, lagna position
etc, and some times even your birth date and month year since you do
not know your birth data and chart, the nadi fellow tells your date of
birth, chart, exact names etc. So it seems to me that the linking the
exact names play a vital role and you can easily see the veracity of
this since another person with some chart cannot have the same
names of theirs and parents. Even in twins with 3 minutes birth
difference the names of twins differ but sound similar but with different
charts, but same names of parents.
Being an astrologer I can easily see this whole process is to know the
position of planets Saturn, Jupiter, Rahu, Ketu, Sun, Moon, Lagna for
example if he asks whether I am 60 years old and I agree by working
backwards from now the position of Saturn 2 ½ years Jupiter (1 year)
Rahu and Ketu (1 ½ yrs) one approximately can know my birth year
and their position at my birth year, If he asks whether I was born in
rain season and I agree, sun position can be known approximately,
similarly Moon position generally do not bother about the lagna that
means birth time. They get satisfied with the approximate names also
after some scanning. But still the whole chart is not known at this
stage, these index leaves have got some linking charts to be picked up
.Then they bring the leaf if available and give the whole chart exact
date of birth, names, past events, future etc as a general Kandam and
you will be impressed. This is their training process and they generally
do not agree for reading without thumbprint even if you want to give
chart. They never give the degree portion of planets and lagna in the
chart. So obviously other Vargas charts the nearest one which matches
your past events since it is not possible to have records of all charts.
On 31st May 1993 (age 55) in Salem I tried to jot down points as the
Nadi reader was reading leaf after leaf from the index bundles and he
noticed and objected to the same. However, for the benefit of the
readers, there are some questions which I noted as he was asking leaf
after leaf till a correct details matched - " Brahmin, hospital born,
father and mother expired, eldest, one maternal uncle, no sisters, own
business, two brothers (total 3) mother name Ammal, married, wife
there, one son, son government job, son teaching line, age 55running,
own vehicle, government job, union/collector office; no sister, Simha
rasi father Vishnu name, wife name Susheela, house rents, two
daughters, foreign visited twice, mother government job, wife job,
intercaste marriage, rasi dual sign, 1938/39born rain season, two
marriages, wife housewife, one daughter, agricultural land, father
government job, wife degree, housewife, only one brother, government
job teaching line self doctor, rasi sthira rasi, no daughter, arts degree,
finance business, father Venkata, mother Parvati name, intercaste
marriage, factory job, son degree, chara rasi Mesham, birth night wife
name starting with 'sa' ,, son government job, army department officer
technical B.E. degree self temple degree, in politics son married
intercaste, house rents, thula rasi, date 15to 30 , birth Sunday, star
sravana, wife three letters, mother government job, father expired 20
years back, to son no children, temple constructed, wife name starting
with "pa,paa,pi,pe" job transport job, own house, wife housewife, one
son ,. Born Wednesday, lagna ubhaya lagna, father temple
constructed, mother name starting with "pa.paa.pi.pe" court case
problem; sthira lagna, transport department, side business cine
production son living with you, lagna chara lagna , birth night, mother
name starting with "pa paa, pi pe" ,B.Sc.,M.Sc.rasayana blood pressure
mother name starting with "ya,ra,la va.." eatables business, now
government job wife ulcer stomach , mother 3 letter name , father visit
foreign; mother 5 letter name, house rents, thula lagna, avani month
wife name starting with "sa,saa,si,se" family court cases, sugar
problem, father government job mother name starting with "a,aa,e,ee"
father alive, mother died, mother name 4 letters first letter 'a' wife
ulcer, business now, computer astrology in own place, wife house wife ,
mother name last letter 'ra' self ulcer, wife operation, father own
business and government job, wife name Rani, voluntarily retired
before 4 years son in job, born Thursday sugar complaint, broker,
government job, one sister housewife degree, self diploma, second
house, mother expired 10 years back father temple administration, self
arts degree, father in the beginning private job clerical, mother name
3rd letter 'pa,paa,pi,pe,pu,puu' 4th letter 'ra , raa, ri , ru' father real
estate, black money income, no lottery income, court case, fight with
son, self two marriages, self MSc, commerce, self engineering degree,
also master's degree first job computer line, no railway air line job,
mother name 3rd letter 'pa,paa,pi,pe,pu,puu' 1st letter 'a' father name
Ramalingam, self technical civil engineering, operation heart, stomach,
mother name Annapurna, one maternal uncle, self last child, Thursday
born, hospital born wife name Saroja, small business in technical
computer, son government job defense technical, self second child,
born in fathers house, date of birth 7th sept,1938, Wednesday ,
voluntary retirement, one brother degree government job, one sister
married degree". In 5th bundle of index leaves in about 15th leaf all
the details about names, profession, lagna, rasi matched, the nadi
reader told me when the thumb impressed would be connected to 5 to
12 bundles of General Kandam each bundle roughly containing about
50 leaves, any one of bundle and any one of leaf would be connected
to you. In fact the nadi reader got fed up reading so many leaves and
after 3 bundles he refused to continue even, but upon my request he
finally got it in 5th bundle ie. After reading about 200 leaves (an
enormous strenuous job for both of us!) can we get any clues from
these types of series of questions to arrive at the correct leaf matching
your data?
Recently I had a funny experience while reading the index cards for my
friend the nadi astrologer asked whether moon is in cancer in Aslesha
and also asked about the approximate names of parents. We said the
parents' names are correct, but the star is wrong. Then after some
leaves, he again said the same parents names but with Pushyami star,
which we again denied. After some more leaves, he again said same
names but with Punarvasu star and we agreed since we knew the star
and the chart. If we do not know the exact moon star what leaf the
nadi astrologer decides and he may choose the wrong leaf. If he is not
patient to scan thoroughly to verify other past events and the readings
can be wrong. So it is possible, that somebody might have been born
with similar parents named but with different moon stars, such as in
twins or otherwise also elsewhere in different places.
In olden days, the names were given as per the letters sounds
mentioned for moon stars, though nowadays nobody follows those
rules to give names., Even then the nadi astrologers tell the exact
names not only of Hindus but some extent of foreigners also so what is
that astrological principle from which one can tell exact names ? As far
as I know there is none. Therefore, it is possible that the nadi
astrologers propitiate some spirit to tell these exact names including
exact past events, since they are not conversant with astrology
thoroughly., The future events would come correct or not depends on
theexperience and attention of the nadi astrologers. Also I found that
all the nadi astrologers would not tell exactly the same future and
events remedial measures defending upon the nadi grantha they
follow, through they tell the past correctly I presume that the same is
time when they tell about the past life. Invariably the remedial
measures, they ask for some money to be given to nadi reader and the
prescribed pujas to Gods/Goddess would be related to places the
Tamilnadu. So these cannot be relied upon.
You go to the same nadi reader after one year and take the readings
again from the same nadi grantha, will he give the same readings as
he had given one year back. I have yet to check this, without telling
him that I consulted him a year back. I presume that it would be
different readings of the nadi reader changer even if the same nadi
grantha were consulted because I feel the person who reads is also
involved in the process defending upon his experience.
Just as an off-track, I gave on prediction to some client with probable
turning, he came back later to me andtold me that it happened, and
wanted to ask some other thing. I again looked at his chart at his
second visit and could not find the astrological reason how I told that
fury prediction, so is it some other extra sense working at the time of
prediction along with astrological reasons to decide the event
depending on your meditations andexperience. Yes, I feel it would be
so, when there is doubt about the decision for giving prediction, purely
from astrology angle. That is why, it is said in sastras that the
astrologers should follow the ethics and Dharamas to couple real
excellent reasons along with the analysis following the astrological
principles, so that the correct predictions would come out.
So what is difference between these Nadi Astrologers and the other
real good astrologers. I feel the former would purely use his training
with Mantra or spirit without any astrological background. Another safe
escape a for the nadi astrologers is that he would say that he read
whatever was there and you have no means of meeting anddiscussing
with him again. Where as the other astrologer is answerable
subsequent for his predictions, of course he can also escape saying
that the birth time may be wrong, but it would be his moral duty
andcertify the birth time depending on the events and the birth date.
The nadi astrologers sued the Vakya Siddhanta for casting the
horoscopes and some times the position of planets differ from what we
get usually. One Tamil language expert told me that it is not possible
to read the scripts understand.
Some say that astrology is not a pure service. I feel that other sources
i.e. medicine, space travel etc. Are also not exact andthere are failures
in spite of lot of literature and research is available in these areas.
Unfortunately the total literature, research andexperience in the field
of astrology is not available. It is true that no exact future can be told
in astrology or even in other sciences when the space rockets burst in
spite of lot of computer calculations, experiments.
Opinions of Others
It would be highly impossible to give here the opinion of others on Nadi
astrology as innumerable in many articles in 'The Astrological
Magazine' since 1956 and books. However I would like to state the crux
from some articles, books my discussions with others personally and
via e-mail.
During my discussions with my Guru Late B.V.Raman in January 1998,
he told "Nadi Granthas can be broadly divided into Mantras and
Tantric, the former mainly based on the power and control of Kshudra
Mantras but under astrological cover and the latter mostly
mathematical and partly basis on Mahamantras. In 1953 Shri Narayana
Sastry handed over me the Nadi literature with a Mahamanta which I
was cautioned should never be revealed to any on until and unless the
instruction by way of a code word is revealed in nadi itself. The late
Justice Ramesam Pantulu had such a work in his possession In my
meeting with him he gave some details about Nadi Amshas but the
secret of interpretation was not revealed just because the code word
was never appeared in the grantha. Before his death, however, he
came across the code word according to which the nadi should be
thrown into the sea which he did. The rational continues to be a
mystery. Perhaps the original authors did not want the secrets fall into
unscrupulous hands. Moneymaking was never their object. Upon the
division of Nadi Amsha and its being tagged on to the positions of
Jupiter, Saturn, Sun, and Moon it is mathematics. But when the amsha
in a particular lagna is to be interpreted, something other than mere
astrological precept becomes involved. It is only after the recitation of
the clue mantra at this stage, for the prescribed number of times that
the results come more or less as a flash. Of course each nadi has
certain definite results, as earlier serialized in 'The Astrological
Magazine', but in applying these results to an undivided horoscope the
Sun, the Moon, Saturn, Jupiter and other planets enter the picture. The
Amsha is tagged on to the amsas of the other planets also and
automatically the astrologer gets an image of the horoscope. I use the
Nadi techniques only for purpose of rectifying the time of birth on the
basis of the amsha and some identifying facts. The dasha system
followed and of course Vimshothari though sometimes vague
references are made to Jaimini and Kalachakra. To me Markandeya
Nadi, Madras gave 60% correct results, in 1935. Shri Gupta in Madras
got many Nadis - Sukra Nadi etc. Total number of Nadi are 72, out of
which 36 are mantra Nadis such as Sukra Nadi, Nandi Nadi etc. which
are only 25% correct. Mantra Nadi are written then and there. There
are 36 Tantra Nadis such as Rudra, Sapta rishi, Brughu, Satya etc.
Busantari Nadi gives about earthquakes, political set-up, available with
Shri Nadis in Tamil. There are 36 Prasna Nadis and by using beetle
nuts, beetle leaves Dakshina, answers are given. They conceal some
mystery to astrologer, Shri Nagaraja Sharma Astrologer tried to find
out the source of tantra nadi and found nadi contains 150 parts.
Egoistic nature will not give results. One Nadi astrologer by Kshudra
Ganapati Mantra died of cancer. By nadi astrologer reading, past will
be correct and future wrong. From Oriental Library and Shri Nagaraja
Sarma, each degree is divided into 150 nadi amsas and the position of
lagna, nadi amsha, Moon Saturn, Jupiter will give clues. Integrate
Parasara+Jamini+Nadi Varahamihira says that astrologer should have
no hatred , should have contentment, ever joyful and satisfied well-
versed in calculations (computers are there now ) gift of having
predictions, imagination, morality, ethics, principled. Don't predict
death know Satyacharya's (Dhruva Nadi author) Pancha Siddhantha.
Practice Mahamantras not Kshudra mantras to get mind clarity. Taking
Shantis (remedial measures) is wrong to get money. Script in Kannada
language on palm leaves immediately within seconds and then
disappeared actually there was Ramayana, Bharatam on palm leaves
earlier. I contested many scientists and told them Astrology is not
superstition"
My Guru, Late Shri Divakaruni Venkata Subba Rao, write his book
"Jyotish Siddhantam" in Telugu language (out of print) about
Tatwa/Antartatwa iddhantam to rectify the birth time to match the
lagna, moon rasi day of birth for male/female birth amounting to a
minimum level of 12 seconds duration of birth time difference which is
equipment to Nadi Amsha. Then only the detailed life pattern can be
predicted with the actual planetary configuration and with the other
Vargas (divisional) charts.
Late Shri R.Gopalakrishna Rao (nick name Meena) suggested starlords
(jeeva planets) of the planets, gunas of planets (Satwik, Rajasik and
Tamasik), Sareera of Planets (Star lord of Jeeva Planets), Lordships,
relationships in his book Nadi Astrology (Stellar Astrology) 3 volumes
(out of print). He stated that "in South India, great men with deep
insight into the knowledge of planets and Heaven, were able to cast
various astrological charts which form the essence of the Nadi
Granthas. Some may say that even the Nadis fail to give correct
predictions. But I can boldly say that the Nadis need fail. The person,
using the Nadis fails, because correct prediction depends on the
accuracy of the questioner's birth chart in the Granthas. If a clever
astrologer who is in possession of the nadi could get at the proper
chart he can read accurate predictions. The method that I have
pursued and which I have presented in the pages of the book, is an
ancient one. It has hitherto been kept confidential without being
brought to light., The authors of this method have recorded Nadis on
palm leaves. What was possible to Sages is equally possible to those
who take pains to investigate and understand the science correctly by
the method herein revealed.
In the "Bhrugu Nandi Nadi" book by Shri R.G.Rao, the karakatwa of the
planets and rasis are given importance and Jupiter transits in the
houses and over planets will decide events. Lagna is not important.
The sequence of planets in the chart is important to be noted to give
predictions. The natal chart combinations and transits are to be
judiciously understood along with effects of retrograde planets and
parivartana planets.
In "Chandra kala Nadi" books 3 volumes by Late Shri R.Santhanam,
transits of a planet in various Navamshas with respect to its lordship
and benefic and malefic Navamsha are given importance.
In "Sapta Rishi Nadi" book by oriental Library Chennai the rashi chart is
only considered and the depositor of the planets is considered.
Lagnawise some ready made charts are discussed for various aspects
of life for some lagnas only.
In "The Astrological Magazine" the general life patterns of some of the
Nadi Amshas from Dhruva Nadi were published
My friend Mr.Barry Pittard of Australia, sends email to me stating " I
have found repeated evidence - both in my explorations at first hand
and from sending out well over two thousand emails to people who
could possibly help many accurate details can be discovered about one
self. In 1998 Shanti (new my wife) and I explored nadi readings at
Libraries at Vaitheeswarankoil and therefore shortly able, I also visited
a library at Chennai. Yet again, I found stunningly accurate
information. Moreover it too corresponded with informed them from
both the Vaitheeswaran koil and Tanjore Libraries. We found our
names and family details including our parents names. He also said
that they got the thumbprints of his wife's parents by fax from
Australia and the readings were incredibly accurate about them.
Shri K.N.Rao in his article "Thumb and Horoscope" mentioned "while in
Calcutta, I heard of about an astrologer near Dumdum who prepared
horoscopes in all cases of unknown births from one's thumb I never
met him. Through a very senior Guru Bhai who knew him well and
patronized, I sent him a request if he would prepare the horoscopes of
those whose birth details were well known and made it clear that it
was not to test him but to know how dependable his method was. I
further clarified that I would like to use it for the verification of birth
time in cases of doubtful horoscopes. I sent five persons to him. In
three cases he gave us correct degrees of all planets and the lagna. He
was not given any birth details. He drew out the whole horoscope from
the palm particularly of the thumb. The most remarkable fact which
showed have struck me was that the degrees of the planets he gave
from the palm and thumb was what Lahiri's ephemeris had given to me
. he used the work Chitrapaksheeya Ayamsha". Sri K.N.Rao published
the readings about him from Dhruva Nadi given to him by
Dr.B.V.Raman in one of his books.
Shri Kannan in his article "My experiences with Nadis -X 1" in the
Astrological Magazine" June 1969 stated "Thus, after investigating all
types of nadis what I have learnt is as noted below:- Nadis have been
written on the basis of nadi-amshas, but they require alterations based
on the localities and planetary positions. Nadi writer wrote horoscopes
upto certain future periods only for each. That is why some nadis
appear and some disappear if any querent funds no leaf for hi, it is due
to the fact that bundles written must have destroyed by nadi holders of
the past or otherwise lost by the successors. Apart from this kind of
loss, some persons may not be in the scheme of a particular nadi at all
and hence there may not be a leaf. For instance, in my case, according
to Sukhar's scheme, I should have had 6 children but I had 8. The last
two had no leaves in Sukha Nadi. When questioned about this in
Prasna Kanda, it was stated that there was nothing to be worried about
their longevity and the scheme of Rishi Vakyam was only like that.
Somehow I got the readings for them in some other nadi. Nadis
generally have some stock method of giving predictions without
bothering and without meticulous calculations. Most of the good nadis
have mastery over the subject and have a good sense of judgement
taking into account all the good and bad points. Astrologers usually
linger or persist in a particular view. Regarding prescription of
medicine, the nadis follow Ayurvedic system for the known ailments
without resorting to particular herb for a particular afflicting planet. A
nadi is able to find out not only the querent's thought but also the e
exact time of consultation. In my case Sukhar stated when I exactly
consulted each bhava or vakyam. Though cent percent results cannot
be expected, nadi gives some correct predictions also and these
depend upon the quality of the nadi consulted. If a nadi stipulates a
fabulous figure of fees it has to be understood that it is the mischief of
the astrologer. All the nadi invariably prescribe shantis (whether
warranted or not because every one will have some defect or other in
the horoscope. This is ruse for getting money. One has to investigate
the reasonableness of it before adopting. Very good predictions can be
expected from a prasna nadi for the immediate future. But long range
predictions fail mostly, probably because they could not check up
correctly all the relevant positions. In the matter of daily prasnas, the
nadis seem to have followed only " Nandi Vakyam" method of giving
results based on planetary position and not on Stellar basis. In the
matter of judgement one h as to give importance to the position of the
dispositor from the Bhava which seems to act best. The nadis have got
always some curse as Mr.Chidambara Iyer expressed and it is found
most of the nadi holders have to experience difficulties and calamities.
There seem to be law connecting the particular time of writing a nadi
and the next time of consultation. This is the most secret method to be
investigated. For instance, Sukar's Prasna Kanda was written long ago.
When the nadi holder opens at random a leaf his eyes fall on a letter
which furnishes information about the person consulting that day.
What is that law? Can any body demonstrate ? At any rate these are all
mysterious to me. With these I close these series and if anybody has
any tangible information to unravel the mysteries pointed out, it will
certainly be useful to all. 52. Of course, there are others who say that
the thumb impression is used only as identification and to impress you.
And the reader would find out from you the birth details by his clever
random type of question s and remembering the answers and then
arriving at the exact details make the chart from their ephemeris for
that date of birth in their library room, read the results from standard
charts recorded in ancient times matching your , lagna etc and the
whole thing was a manipulation. There are some others who say that
they consulted all nadis but did not find their leaf and felt that the
whole thing was a hoax. Some others say that there are lot of cheating
nowadays in how they operate it and they are people monitoring
behind the screen in other room listening to you and there is no nadi
reader live in India today just try giving a thumb he will be able to find
the details some others say that the readings for foreigners have been
exploited .from other leaves some say that the nadi readers would
invoke a "spirit" which would smell the thumb print and tell them what
Index leaves are to be picked up, which are only some old recorded life
patterns and as he turns leaf after leaf while questioning as usual
routine process the spirit would tell him at certain stage to read the
correct date though it won't be there on that leaf. Some say that time
of birth and lagna are given by nadi reader which has not matched
when checked on computer later. Every one had different experiences
with the nadi Jyotish. It would be difficult to record all the experiences
in this limited space.
Conclusion
I have discussed many important points on nadi Jyotish as far as
possible
due to restriction of space from my experience. It is farther for the
readers and experienced astrologers to get into real research into the
mysteries of this nadi jyothish. Since this research would be very long
time process involving lot of expenses, it will not be possible for any
single individual to carryout this research. I earnestly request all
serious research astrologers to come together exchanging their
information freely on this subject, which is very easy now a days
because of inter-net and E-mails. I also request the rich individuals,
trusts, government, private agencies, Swamis, Ashrams help financially
for this research. I pray God also to help all these astrology research
aspirants to unveil the secrets of this ancient Nadi Jyotish uplifting the
Vedic astrology for the benefit of world community. I also give my
blessings to all those sincere young astrologers with their advanced
computer astrology software to succeed in their research efforts.
OM SHANTI.
[Written by: Pemmaraju V. R. Rayudu
"Daivagna Ratna and Jyotish Aradhakulu"
B.E., M. Tech., Diploma in Management and French.
Former Senior Scientist and Deputy Director Defense Research and
Development Laboratory]