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HAL RICHARDSON )
PETITIONER, )
VS. ) Case No. : 96-D-217
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CLAUDINE DOMBROWSKI )
RESPONDENT. )
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
2008.
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APPEARANCES:
and through counsel, Don Hoffman. 112 West 7th Street, Topeka
Kansas 66603.
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Appearances, please.
Hoffman.
grandmother's funeral.
itself.
you're going to have to speak up, because I just can't hear you.
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MR. HOFFMAN: Your Honor, this case has a huge history to it,
and for a long, long, period of time now, the contact that has been
allowed between the mother and this thirteen-year-old girl has been
supervised. And the supervision part of all of this in recent times has
all been really at the request of the child. And so quite candidly, Mr.
provocation, this little girl doesn't want to go on the terms that are
with going to the service. She wants her father to take her. We're
But jf the Court were to grant this motion, I can assure you,
Unfortunately, about the time a judge gets familiar with this file,
we have these transfers. And I feel bad that you have had to be, you
/ ~\ know, baptism of fire right off the bat with this case because it has
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very mature little girl. And so my client has made arrangements, if the
information was given to him about where this thing is going to be,
when it's going to be held, he will see to it that she gets there. He
proceed.
copies for both of you from the Guardian ad Litem, in this case.
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Mr. Hoffman, if you want to come forward, I'll give it to you.
The Guardian ad Litem is Jill Dykes and she has also - she's
provided the Court with a letter referencing this very topic. And what
she says in the letter basically coincides with what Mr. Hoffman
take his daughter to the funeral and the daughter wants to go with
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would like for you to hear, at least let me present. Because this is
the first time I've seen this. And the way it's written is typically just
like the dime store novel stuff they've been writing for the last 15
human rights issue there is. Now, I have a supervisor, the only
person in the world who has watched my daughter and I. I think that
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she would like to maybe say something, at least say how we react
together.
Now, they're going to tell me that five, six, years ago that Ricky
didn't want to see me. Oh, okay, now their going to say that she
didn't want to see me again? You guys are into this parent alienation
thing this is a big-time mess. No, Ricki and I are doing okay. It's a
hard thing to have to go through your mom's funeral. And this court
denied her the right to see her grandmother when she was alive.
/-, Imagine the guilt that she has. Now, you're going to say oh, daddy,
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(-.\ you can take her down there. He couldn't make the trip ten years
And I would like to put Kiera, actually, I would like for her to
read what was written. And then I would like for her to tell you how
our visit just Saturday went, when I finally, I had to text message my
daughter-
put on?
people that the Guardian ad Litem likes to write about, that doesn't'
my own mother's funeral. I'm not talking about taking her away for a
lifetime, I'm talking about Friday through Sunday. For crying out loud,
I'm not talking about anything past that. She deserves the right to put
closure on that. That will not only heal the fact that she missed, but
they let her dog- I mean, she's excited about her dog coming back
because they were close until dad got custody and I got supervised
I'm not going to-that's it. She hasn't seen anybody I haven't
seen. I have a lot of anxiety about it. I can only imagine being 14
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and having anxiety about it. I don't think-I think you need to take
charge and I think you need to think about the further implications
that this could cause, because this is her one chance to make
amends on that guilt that she did not get to see her grandmother
when she was alive at safe visit, and it was done in quite a hateful
manner, but they did let her dog-okay, grandma was in a wheel chair
/,--\ then. That motion still went undecided. Okay, that is a chance for
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(-', her. It's not, I mean, they know where I'm at. I mean, we're not
going too far. It's just a weekend, and when I talked to Ricki that's not
what she said. Kids want to please both parents and I don't think you
need to listen to just one and not the other. I think you're being very,
seated. I asked you at the beginning if you had anything further you
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MS. DOMBROSKI: -and just think how that would make her
I object for the record. I object. I have one person who has observed
Now, this is the order of the Court, I'm denying your motion for
you to take your daughter up to the funeral and spend three days
best interest. I find that is in the best interests of your daughter. That
pretty good.
which was set for a docket hearing on November 13. I think rather
date.
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me, first you will stand up, and then you will speak up loud enough so
how about some human rights? Because the one person who has
seen us, you refuse, you refuse, to listen to what she says.
rights, and due process and fails to let me put witnesses at this time.
Because I'm not going away. I will not let my daughter down like this
Court has.
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afternoon.
MS. DOMBROSKI: Why don't you just put it for next year,
that's fine.
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MS. DOMBROSKI: Hey, just like the last five years, Your
THE COURT: Thank you very much. We'" set this for
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MS. DOMBROSKI: I'm willing to tell you, I just found out last
MR. HOFFMAN: Well, she says that she will let us know where
it's at
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MS. DOMBROSKI: I can let you know right now on the record.
(-', dump both her grandmother's and her grandfather's ashes together
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t- " because they both died this year_ And it's at the grave and then the
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Father from St. Rhodes will be there. This will happen at 11:30 in the
morning this is the call I got, and then right after, there will be a
dinner and then they have already gone down to Dallas to pick up all
dog. So then after that they would be getting the dog. It's
a week for probably six years, so I'm very familiar with that road,
although I haven't been down it in the last ten years. I can get,
same home that I stayed in fifteen years ago, actually, 912 South
Baker. If that-and you know, if there's any, if they get lost or anything
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like that, then--
cemetery?
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internet, because-
Have you? And then did you lose your daughter on top of that?
help on that.
MS. DOMBROSKI: You just- I can't believe you did that to her,
Hal, again. You know, God, you could have just let her go. She's 14.
un-journalized, Your Honor? Nobody was told to do it, and I'm not a
lawyer; however.
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t''', CERTIFICATE
STATE OF KANSAS )
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COUNTY OF SHAWNEE )
I, Misty M. Phillips, Transcriptionist of the Third
Judicial District of the State of Kansas, do hereby certify that
the foregoing transcript contains all of the proceedings
requested to be transcribed: That said transcript, consisting
of 19 type written pages, is a correct and complete
transcript- ( as correct and complete as a digital recording
will allow) - from the digital recording made at the time of
the proceeding.
I further certify that the said transcript was made from a
digital recording and the recording was, at times, hard to
hear, to understand, people spoke at the same time at points
during the proceeding, and the transcription was done to the
best of my ability, having not been present at the time of
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recording.
SIGNED, OFFICIALLY SEALED, and FILED, with
the Clerk of the District Court, Shawnee County, Kansas,
This 4th day of December 2008.
Misty M. Phillips
Transcriptionist
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