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AZRAQ STATION DCS REPLACEMENT BDR MEETING ELECTRICAL CLARIFICATIONS 6TH FEB 2011

AFPC Remarks SIA comments Actions


In Part 5 terminal size mentioned the cross section size for all the different loads used according to which The terminals are provided as per the connecting wire/cable
G 1 criteria you define these sizes. size, voltage, current etc. of the circuit. As practice, minimum Cleared, no further action required.
terminal size shall be 2.5Sqmm.
To define the cable schedule table to define the type, length, voltage dip, coming from, going to, and The cable schedule shall included the requested details. The
G 2 dedicated load, and capacity. schedule will be provided during the detail engineering phase Cleared, cable schedule to be provided.
as applicable.
Define the short circuit current in case happening in different locations, at the UPS, system input, at the This power supply is supplied from the UPS to the system
DCS cabinet. panel distribution circuit. The MCB are provided with the
G 3 breaking capacity of 10kA to IEC 60947-2 Cleared, no further action required.

What is the dimensions of the bar conductors for short circuit strength (mechanical and thermal stress There is no copper flat busbar provided in the design. The
depend on the magnitude of the short circuit current, its behavior in time and duration ) in the distribution panel design includes MCB comb busbars, of 63A rating.
G 4 boards used either separate or incorporated in another cabinet DCS and consider this issue as a safety Cleared, no further action required.
issue..
Main distribution arrangement for both sources non-vital loads and vital-loads (UPS source output) as Noted, Single line diagram shall be provided as part of the
G 5 Cleared, SLD to be provided.
general single line diagram to feed the DCS system to be provided detail engineering phase.
The output of redundant UPS system to be provide in details illustrate all designing consideration in these There is no copper flat busbar provided in the design. The
G 6 comments panel design includes MCB comb busbars, of 63A rating. Cleared, no further action required.

To achieve the selectivity between the protection elements the setting for upstream element shall be Noted
G 7 bigger then down stream, please note that in your designing and consider this issue as a safety issue. Cleared, MCBs shall be selected accordingly.

Its noted in the legend table that the current rating for the fuse is 10A where as in the dwg. Rated as 2A. Fuse terminal legend to be shown in the drawing without
G 8 Please clarify which one is correct. specific ampere rating. The fuse rating indicated in the power Cleared, legend drawing to be updated.
drawing is 2A.
To prepare the cable layout DWG. In control room to be provided. Noted, drawing to be provided as part of the detail
G 9 Cleared, drawing to be provided.
engineering phase.
To prepare the conduits layout and cable tray layout out DWG. In control room to be provide Noted, drawing to be provided as part of the detail
G 10 Cleared, drawing to be provided.
engineering phase.
To prepare the general layout for the clean earthing system to be provide. Noted, drawing to be provided as part of the detail
G 11 Cleared, drawing to be provided.
engineering phase.
To prepare the calculation sheets for the short circuit current calculation at the input of the UPS system Load calculation are provided in the power calculations as
and the input DCS cabinet, and re-arrange the load calculations to shoe the total load consumed for vital part of the FDS. To meet the short circuit capacity, the MCB
G 12 (from UPS system) and non-vital (from main utility switchboard) shall be provided in the system cabinet will be with minimum Cleared, no further action required.
of 10kA breaking capacity.

To provide the clean earthing system designing supported with the calculation sheet and shown on the Noted, as applicable. SIA to check on site and provide the earthing
G 13
separate dwg. system as applicable and per the contract.
To define the incomer source of C-TB01(230V, 50Hz) coming from non UPS source and code no. for the Noted
4 1 main cable source, define the reference DWG., define the feeder no. of main switchboard come from. cleared, drawing to be updated.

As understood from the distribution arrangement of non-UPS power supply are incorporated inside the MCB comb busbar are provided in the panel design.
4 2 DCS cabinet system so, what kind of distribution bar be used to distribute the current into the dedicated Cleared, no further action required.
loads as shown in the dwg.
The nominal rating for the distribution bars such as (Voltage, Hz, Current carrying capacity, short circuit Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable
4 3 cleared, drawing to be updated.
endurance in 1 sec)
4 4 To define the fuse type for all fuse link used in protection the deference circuits. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
To provide all outlet sockets from ELCB incorporated with the circuit breaker with 30mA sensitivity to Noted, ELCB will be provided for the sockets.
4 5 cleared, drawing to be updated.
comply with F1 standard.
To define the rating size of the cabinet outlet sockets and how many sockets to service the cabinet to tie- The socket MCB shall be rated to 10A rating
4 6 cleared, drawing to be updated.
in to 6A rating of MCB used.
To define the current breaking capacity of all MCB's used and shown on the dwgs. the current breaking capacity of all MCBs is 10kA, to IEC
4 7 cleared, drawing to be updated.
60947-2

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to define the type of used MCB's MCB provided are with 'C' curve tripping features, and are
4 8 cleared, drawing to be updated.
from C60N series of Schneider Electric make
To define the incomer source of C-TB04(230V, 50Hz) coming from non UPS source and code no. for the Noted
5 1 main cable source, define the reference DWG., define the feeder no. of main switchboard come from. cleared, drawing to be updated.

As understood from the distribution arrangement of output of redundant UPS power supply source are MCB comb busbar are provided in the panel design.
5 2 through a separate switchboard to distribute the current into the dedicated loads as shown in the dwg. Cleared, no further action required.

The nominal rating for the distribution bars such as (Voltage, Hz, Current carrying capacity, short circuit Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable
5 3 cleared, drawing to be updated.
endurance in 1 sec)
To define the wiring size AC side for all dedicated parts before and after the PSC at DC 24 V side and to Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable
5 4 cleared, drawing to be updated.
sub- distribution DC bars.
To define the current breaking capacity of all MCB's used and shown on the dwgs. the current breaking capacity of all MCBs is 10kA, to IEC
5 5 cleared, drawing to be updated.
60947-2
to define the type of used MCB's MCB provided are with 'C' curve tripping features, and are
5 6 cleared, drawing to be updated.
from C60N series of Schneider Electric make
Please check the size of the block diode to be more than real DC current consumed. The rating of Diode block is 20A, and is from Siemens as
5 7 Cleared, no further action required.
recommended for the 20A PSU
What is the real DC current load consumed from the DC bars. The DC current load consumed is mentioned in the power
5 8 Cleared, no further action required.
calculations
To define the type of DC earthing is used in your system (floating, positive, negative) The panel are designed with Floating DC earthing system
5 9 Cleared, no further action required.

5 10 TO define the DC bar current capacity on the drawings. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
The minimum cross section for all power circuit according to F1 standard shall be 2.5 sqmm Please note Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable
5 11 cleared, drawing to be updated.
that and modify accordingly.
What capacity power size for the PCS to check if the MCB 6A rating is suitable selection for it. As per the Siemens data the power consumption is 3.4A
5 12 Cleared, no further action required.

5 13 TO define the dimensions of DC bars. MCB comb busbar are provided in the panel design. Cleared, no further action required.
6 1 The size of the fuse used must be mentioned on all fuses shown in the drawings. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
The nominal rating for the distribution bars such as (Voltage, Hz, Current carrying capacity, short circuit Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable
6 2 cleared, drawing to be updated.
endurance in 1 sec)
To define the breaking capacity of all MCB's used and be shown on the drawing the current breaking capacity of all MCBs is 10kA, to IEC
6 3 cleared, drawing to be updated.
60947-2
What is the real DC current load consumed from the DC bars. The DC current load consumed is mentioned in the power
6 4 Cleared, no further action required.
calculations
To define the type of DC earthing is used in your system (floating, positive, negative) The panel are designed with Floating DC earthing system
6 5 Cleared, no further action required.

To check the suitability of using 1.5 mm sq. cross section for all branch DC circuits against the DC current refer point 5.11
6 6
carrying capacity and voltage drop and short circuit calculation.
6 7 To define the cross section for all circuits which are not define in the drawing. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
To separate all three circuits DC feeding through one MCB 6A to be fed separately with three circuits with Individual fuses are provided per circuit with branch MCB.
6 8 three MCB's each MCB is dedicated into one circuit from both sides. (upstream and down stream) and all Cleared, no further action required.
are connecting into DC bars.
6 9 TO define the dimensions of DC bars. MCB comb busbar are provided in the panel design. Cleared, no further action required.
To separate all DC circuits feeding through one MCB 6A to be feed separately with two circuits with MCB Individual fuses are provided per circuit with branch MCB.
relating to (IM-153-2 and CP 341), each MCB is dedicated into one circuit from both sides (upstream and
7&8 1 down stream) and all are connecting into DC bars to be reliable. Cleared, no further action required.

7&8 2 The size of the fuse used must be mentioned on all fuses shown in the drawings. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
7&8 3 The nominal rating for the distribution bars such as (Voltage, Current carrying capacity) Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
To define the breaking capacity of all MCB's used and be shown on the drawing the current breaking capacity of all MCBs is 10kA, to IEC
7&8 4 cleared, drawing to be updated.
60947-2
What is the real DC current load consumed from the DC bars. The DC current load consumed is mentioned in the power
7&8 5 Cleared, no further action required.
calculations

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To define the type of DC earthing is used in your system (floating, positive, negative) The panel are designed with Floating DC earthing system
7&8 6 Cleared, no further action required.

To check the suitability of using 1.5 mm sq. cross section for all branch DC circuits against the DC current refer point 5.11
7&8 7
carrying capacity and voltage drop and short circuit calculation.
7&8 8 To define the cross section for all circuits which are not define in the drawing. Noted, drawing to be updated as applicable cleared, drawing to be updated.
7&8 9 TO define the dimensions of DC bars. MCB comb busbar are provided in the panel design. Cleared, no further action required.
S 1 With the above points the power distribution drawings are approved for manufacture. Info Info
S 2 The UPS is approved as per exchanges earlier. Info Info
The new UPS will not replace the old UPS. Replacement of the old UPS is not in the scope. The location of
the same will be covered under a separate drawing. A new AC distribution board will be provided in
between the UPS and the DCS cabinet with two spare feeders. Similar construction will be followed in this
S 3 distribution board as that of the panels incorporating the comments above where applicable. The new AC Info Info
distribution board will be designed to a breaking capacity of 25 KA.

Participants
AFPC
Y. Zalita

SIA
Sanjay H

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