Ukedchat Archive 27 January 2011

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ZoeAndrewsAST 20:01 RT @ianaddison: What are your thoughts on homework? #ukedchat

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@koops08 Hi!! welcome to twitter. Hope you're joining us for
Creativeedu 20:01
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ok, so the clock has struck 8pm. #ukedchat is here. What do you think
ianaddison 20:01
about homework?
Many parents think homework reflects what takes place in the class.
ParsleyBill 20:02 So, if you always give them worksheets to take home beware!
#ukedchat
HW is sometimes useful & sometimes not, entirely depends on the
missbrownsword 20:02
task #ukedchat
#UKEdChat Why not call it 'Ownwork' then maybe more kids will have
musicmind 20:02 ownership of learning rather than thinking its for someone
else...school
theokk 20:02
#ukedchat Wonder when if ever? We will talk about home learning
chris_1974 20:02 RT @ianaddison 5 minutes until we start discussing Homework/home

learning/whatever - is it useful or a waste of time/effort? #ukedchat
and for now, homework = home learning = whatever term your school
ianaddison 20:02
has. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:03
RT @Catriona_O: hOMEWORK - who is it really for? #ukedchat
#ukedchat If a child engages with their homework then it is
robertd1981 20:03 worthwhile, otherwise it can be a chore for children, teacher and
parents alike.
#ukedchat homework that is merely a repeat of what can be done in
didactylos 20:03
class is pointless
RealLara 20:03 It can be very valuable if has a purpose and can engage; some children
love it; if it becomes a chore it's worse than worthless #ukedchat
#ukedchat homework so hard to chase up and many of mine not
genkijen 20:03
willing to do it :-( despite choice/projects etc
Catriona_O 20:03 hOMEWORK - who is it really for? #ukedchat
Is the digital divide ever more pronounced when it comes to
Creativeedu 20:03
homework? #UKEdChat
ianaddison 20:03 We're talking about work, set by teachers for children to do out of
normal hours. That's homework isn't it? #ukedchat
didactylos 20:03 #ukedchat homework is a waste of time if it is set just because it has
to be to prove the school is doing things right!
Homework? It must be meaningful, engaging, challenging, but not so
asober 20:03
that it puts pupils off #ukedchat
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RT @narthernlad: Blogging has revolutionised homework in my class
Creativeedu 20:04
both in quality and quantity! #UKEdChat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:04 Being a bit controversial, but i don't like homework at all #ukedchat i
think the kids should be out playing, reading, helping with chores!
RT @narthernlad: Blogging has revolutionised homework in my class
trees2066 20:04 both in quality and quantity! #UKEdChat (Think a lot of people will
agree)
RT @theokk: #ukedchat Wonder when if ever? We will talk about
RealLara 20:04 home learning < we've been calling it home learning for year or two.
Helps
ianaddison 20:04 so come on, be honest (we won't judge) who has set a worksheet-
based homework since September? #ukedchat is that a bad thing?
@ianaddison We don't have homework - just learning log projects &
bevevans22 20:04 challenges using PurpleMash & other stuff - just a diff. name
#ukedchat
@didactylos is that your actual opinion or just trying to get people
Creativeedu 20:04
fired up? #UKEdChat
hi everyone. always thought homework was vital. But now my
john_at_muuua 20:04
daughter is 11 i see waste of time it really is #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:04 Blogs, posterous, pics, debono/thinking maps enquiry prezis, twitter
questions, vle read the ppt, watch vid,lesson skills based #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:04 my kids get their HW at beg if term & pick a task each week, they like
the choice & I know in advance what they might be doing #ukedchat
#ukedchat homework that does not exploit the rich media world
didactylos 20:04
outside of school is pretty blinkered
theokk 20:04 @didactylos suspect this often case #ukedchat
Blogging has revolutionised homework in my class both in quality and
narthernlad 20:04
quantity! #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:04 RT @didactylos: #ukedchat homework is a waste of time if it is set

just because it has to be to prove the school is doing things right!
we have learning logs, try to make open ended and creative but still
squiggle7 20:05
some who never do them #ukedchat
SusuRem 20:05 @frogphilp agreed. I make sure I send meaningful tasks home and my
daughter gets nonsense that we rarely bother with #ukedchat
robertd1981 20:05 #ukedchat Have done wallwisher work for homework and that was
popular with many children, but some did not choose to do it.
RT @john_at_muuua: hi everyone. always thought homework was
didactylos 20:05 vital. But now my daughter is 11 i see waste of time it really is
#ukedchat
I hate homework especially if a school policy is to set it every night
kvnmcl 20:05
#ukedchat it must have purpose
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@ianaddison We have sent home printable maths games linking to
bevevans22 20:05 target (for parents to play with children) - does that count?
#ukedchat
narthernlad 20:05 @ZoeAndrewsAST What about the kids who just sit on playstation all
night, stops them doing that for a but! #ukedchat
Prezis as circle map, tree map, flow map, multi flow map, bubble map,
JOHNSAYERS 20:05 double bubble map, brace map, bridge map -debono/blooms em
#ukedchat
Do many people get the usual excuse "Internet didn't work" or "I have
asober 20:05
no internet at home"? #ukedchat
simcloughlin 20:05 #ukedchat I will very openly say that I set worksheet-based
homeworks. Not all of my children have computers at home.
Creativeedu 20:05 @narthernlad can you give us some e.g.s? #UKEdChat
I have set HW on class blog and wallwisher, kids like not being able to
forget to hand it in! #ukedchat
what are the alternatives? one hour extra at school anyone?
john_at_muuua 20:05
#ukedchat
musicmind 20:05 #UKEdChat Surely anything you learn outside of the school/classroom
is homework....even shopping and calculating..
Homework - I can't sand the meaningless worksheets my kids come
frogphilp 20:05 home with. I hate setting it & marking it. I'm on the fence really
#ukedchat
@missbrownsword we did that at my old school, it was brilliant!
ianaddison 20:05
#ukedchat
Our home learning has a clear, written purpose each week and a note
RealLara 20:06 to remind can do a task of own choice that serves same purpose
#ukedchat
Each of the 16 strategies is broken down to a self help guide to get
JOHNSAYERS 20:06
pupils to think out of the problem #ukedchat
passthechablis 20:06 RT @genkijen: It's always the same children who complete, although
today had a non reader hand in her first piece , a fab letter.#ukedchat
@bevevans22 not sure! my school's homework is pretty much all
ianaddison 20:06
worksheet based #ukedchat
jjash 20:06 @ianaddison #ukedchat homework has to have an authentic purpose.

Homework blackline mAsters sheets shd be burned.
squiggle7 20:06 I hate marking homework. #ukedchat
primarypete_ 20:06
#ukedchat I love the learning log model shown by @mister_jim
musicmind 20:06
#UKEdChat No homework timetable in my establishment...
are there some subjects where homework is really pointless?
john_at_muuua 20:06
#ukedchat
@squiggle7 Pupils who don't do learning log work at home contribute
bevevans22 20:06
to them at school here #ukedchat
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ZoeAndrewsAST 20:06 We have a new hw policy ks3 #ukedchat. 2 projects per fortnight over
two subject areas. Seems to be working much better for kids and staff
#ukedchat Normal homework hand in 12 out of 32 forst blog hw 27
narthernlad 20:06
out of 32!!
kiwiteacheruk 20:06 Far prefer little and oft to supp work in cls (worksheet or otherwise)
rather than big termly projects that parents end up doing! #ukedchat
I say, there should be no homework timetable, but some work might
john_at_muuua 20:06
be extended at home. #ukedchat
genkijen 20:06 It's always the same children who complete, although today had a
non reader hand in her first piece , a fab letter.#ukedchat
musicmind 20:06 #UKEdChat Its about raising awareness and changing the culture of
'learning' rather than working outside the classroom.
#ukedchat overall homework is not useful - devise for some kdis who
sueellendixon 20:06 don't have parental support - many parents think family time is
sqeezed
passthechablis 20:06 HW has to be accessible for the learner. Have had lots of parental
concerns over HW as task often inappropriate #ukedchat
selfhelp strategies the 16 habits of successful people so pupils/staff
JOHNSAYERS 20:06 work on developments to improve their independent learning
#ukedchat
there is research that suggests it makes no difference to attainment
#ukedchat
RT @missbrownsword: So do I RT @squiggle7: I hate marking
john_at_muuua 20:07
homework. #ukedchat
@bevevans22 @squiggle7 our policy is not to keep kids in to do at sch
squiggle7 20:07
if they don't do at home #ukedchat
Jokprice 20:07 But what if parents demand hw? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:07 does anyone use a wikisite for homework? #UKEdChat
sueellendixon 20:07 @musicmind yes - so we need the lnks between 'school' learning and
'life' learning made more explicit and valued #ukedchat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:07 i wonder how many h/w tasks are set just because staff know they
have to set it. Does it add to the learning? #ukedchat
@ianaddison It's part of a maths based parental engagement
bevevans22 20:07 initiative. They're not worksheets but are photocopiable stuff
#ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:07 As an English teacher I gave up trusting 100% of students would read
to chapter 8 a long time ago. I don't think they ever did. #ukedchat
#ukedchat : sometimes, less is more!
open_minds 20:07 http://manorlodge.dramateaching.com/#post4 (inspiring problem
solving thru frustration)
#ukedchat I use learning logs for topic-based homeworks. Kids have
simcloughlin 20:07
ownership and do what they are interested in.
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musicmind 20:07 My gosh this homework topic is going crazy..... #UKEdChat
Homework reinforces learning boundaries. Where do we learn?
dhulston 20:07
#UKedchat
#ukedchat i have sent some sheets home becuase parents asked for
genkijen 20:07
them .
sometimes my daughters spend a lot of time on their homework &
ClaireJoanne35 20:07
then it's not marked #ukedchat
So do I RT @squiggle7: I hate marking homework. #ukedchat
robertd1981 20:07 #ukedchat I like the idea of really open ended. Something like google's
20% time, each week show us what you've done in 30 mins at home.
Nevagonnabslim 20:07 We had to write termly homework booklets ! I want to set homework
as and when I need it not something set a term ago! #ukedchat
@ClaireJoanne35 worse, mine spends ages on it and learns nothing,
john_at_muuua 20:08
just repeats same old same old. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:08 As teachers, are we setting it cos we have to? If it wasn;t compulsory,
could we set better quality stuff less often? #ukedchat
@squiggle7 Not keeping them in. Learning logs is part of school life
bevevans22 20:08
too: review sessions, clubs etc. #ukedchat
HW is useless for learning, BUT great for training kids about
chrisbest1980 20:08
responsibility and work ethic #ukedchat
simcloughlin 20:08 #ukedchat #homework Has anyone invited ardent anti-homework

activist @KirstieMAllsopp to join the discussion?
#UKEdChat Surely between us all we can change this 'horrible'
musicmind 20:08
experience for some kids......(and staff!)
JOHNSAYERS 20:08 a learning tool box to use to overcome learning issues. pupils use it to
create/ think of a solution it Aids in class / home #ukedchat
didactylos 20:08 @musicmind #ukedchat may agree but too often its tedious work set
to keep the SMT happy or the parents or OFSTED - no cultural effect
#ukedchat @Jokprice A list of websites (or delicious links page)
robertd1981 20:08 showing parents what child can access themselves to reinforce class
work?
MrColleyStMarys 20:08 @ianaddison Me. Exam questions to check the learning from
xtranormal/storybird tasks. Practise in the 'business end' #ukedchat
narthernlad 20:08 #ukedchat I stopped sending home spellings as I changed the way I
teach spellings but parents complained. The expected them!
#ukedchat we trialled using mathletics for maths homework, which
primarypete_ 20:08
word well but slipped after a while.
#ukedchat Some of the best homework is effectively independent
GiftedPhoenix 20:08
learning that builds on the lesson
genkijen 20:08 @robertd1981 like that too ;-) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:08 our LSAs mark the homework in my school #ukedchat
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#ukedchat Some parents have to be weaned off the idea that 3 hours
GiftedPhoenix 20:09
homework a night is somehow beneficial
RT @ianaddison: As teachers, R we setting it cos we have 2? If it
narthernlad 20:09 wasn;t compulsory, could we set better quality stuff less oftn?
#ukedchat
Totallywired77 20:09 #ukedchat
@ianaddison is there a country where that's standard practice? I
john_at_muuua 20:09
heard a rumor. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:09 Does your school punish children for not completing homework? if
not? why not? If it does, what's the punishment? #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:09 I do believe reading at home is important though. Can def see
difference in levels of chn that do and chn that don't #ukedchat
sueellendixon 20:09 #ukedchat just to say kirsty allsop has a campaign currently to ask
parents to say 'No thanks' to homework. enough of meaningless tasks
@ianaddison They mark it next lesson though. In groups without a
MrColleyStMarys 20:09
mark scheme. #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: our LSAs mark the homework in my school
Creativeedu 20:09
#ukedchat <poor buggers!
I guess it depends if the overall purpose of homework is to support
te_ach_er 20:09 learning or to develop organisational/time management
skills?#ukedchat
genkijen 20:09 #ukedchat made a grid where they could choose from lit maths and
other worked quite well , quite hard to manage and track.
RealLara 20:09 Old now: http://bit.ly/hfeXo0 #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:09 RT @Jokprice: But what if parents demand hw? #ukedchat
RT @CreativeEdu does anyone use a wikisite for homework?
Nevagonnabslim 20:09
#UKEdChat used to but kids hated wiki
@narthernlad I think that is because parents feel they can
kiwiteacheruk 20:10 understand/support/do sp - and reading!! many feel other shws own
gaps! #ukedchat
RealLara 20:10 @narthernlad So important not to get sucked into doing things we
don't agree with because parents expect it. Easy to do so. #ukedchat
musicmind 20:10 @pcwoessner Will do though now thanks. #UKEdChat
@bevevans22 would like to know more about how you do that. We
squiggle7 20:10
share ours and discuss briefly. #ukedchat
Here's a little something about learning logs for the uninitiated:
bevevans22 20:10
http://bit.ly/f8lmRE #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:10 as a pupil I NEVER EVER did my homework! #ukedchat
narthernlad 20:10 #ukedchat too fast tonight I cant keep up!
Seeing my daughter suffering homework just reminded me how much
john_at_muuua 20:10
i hated it as a kid. #ukedchat
pcwoessner 20:10 Have any of the #ukedchat folks read Rethinking Homework: Best
Practices That Support Diverse Needs http://t.co/5FS9zZb
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@john_at_muuua as a sixth former I didn't and I loved English!
didactylos 20:10
#ukedchat Read Chapter 8 I mean.
#ukedchat its all about engagement. Has to be meaningful and have
primarypete_ 20:10 purpose (although i think ok to supplement with needed skills
practice)
Creativeedu 20:10
@Nevagonnabslim why did the kids hate the wiki? #UKEdChat
@ianaddison yes, I wouln't set it every week if I wasn't supposed to
#ukedchat
#ukedchat Policy is they stay in a play time to complete homework if
robertd1981 20:10
not done.
RT @ianaddison RT @Jokprice: But what if parents demand hw?
#ukedchat ours do so bookers wrtitten. Waste time!
If homework is good then why do the ones who "need" it most are
raff31 20:11 most often the ones who get nagged most for not doing it?
#ukedchat
@CreativeEdu was hard to tell cos it looked great only I never really
knew sorry #ukedchat
RT @CreativeEdu: is it better to set HW that consolidates the last
ianaddison 20:11
lesson or prepares for the next? #UKEdChat
@Catriona_O #ukedchat Homework is the ultimate class issue at
kennypieper 20:11
schools, if ever there was one.
#ukedchat In Foundation Stage I tend to send out useful websites,
KShaw1977 20:11 places to visit, recipes/activities to do with parents eg make
playdough!
koops08 20:11 #ukedchat we do learning logs at our school which is layered as must,
should or could. This means that hopefully (cont) http://tl.gd/8e6p19
ianaddison 20:11 so are we saying we'd like to scrap homework? I mean the formal
stuff. Not ness the optional blogging/reading bits #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:11 When I first set open ended investigations at start of year, several
parents complained they hadn't got a worksheet! Can't win #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:11 RT @missbrownsword: as a pupil I NEVER EVER did my homework!

#ukedchat <- I did but always at the last minute, usually in bed...
ClaireJoanne35 20:11 @squiggle7 I would agree with this #ukedchat
saraloisstanley 20:11 #ukedchat thinking & talking together homework in my experience is

only thing that gets almost full parental support - parents need a voice
@bevevans22 #ukedchat We do learning logs in school and aim to
robertd1981 20:11
move them to a home and school document
genkijen 20:11 @ianaddison #ukedchat no punishment , some teachers keep in , but

i think that is a waste of time and creates bad feeling
@chrisbest1980 #ukedchat wouldn't kids helping around the house or
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:11 in community be a more valid use of their h/w time but with same
outcome?
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#ukedchat I am learning resource incorporates games into homework
JOHNSAYERS 20:11 questions. Online resource. Really big take up. Worksheets never
come back
sueellendixon 20:11 @missbrownsword #ukedchat how can it? it is usually done under
duress and 'pain' - for all the family. Needs to be fun or not at all
is it better to set HW that consolidates the last lesson or prepares for
Creativeedu 20:11
the next? #UKEdChat
marketspi 20:12 #ukedchat I share a class with a colleague. He always sets HW to finish
classwork not done cos he was late. They hate it.
GaryAveryICT 20:12 Homework is a parental expectation. Getting children to do

homework at home is a pain..(as a parent myself!#ukedchat
musicmind 20:12 #UKEdChat If a child is excited by a topic/project etc then the

research/investigation part of 'home' work could be amazing....
#ukedchat How many experience the problem that the homework
GiftedPhoenix 20:12
returned is done largely by the parents?
dhulston 20:12 #UKedchat time to reflect, report, digest, further research something
personally relevant, interesting. #homework blogging good
#ukedchat http://year6senseidesu.blogspot.com/search?updated-
genkijen 20:12
max=2009-08-26T06%3A58%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7 the grid I
made
@ZoeAndrewsAST but how would we mark 'housework'? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:12
#devilsadvocate
my kids do home learning, not home work. Is that different?
chris_1974 20:12
#ukedchat
@ZoeAndrewsAST depends on the community you work in I guess!
chrisbest1980 20:12
#ukedchat
ethinking 20:13
#ukedchat best home work: go home play with your mum and dad
@CreativeEdu depends on the group of learners &prior learning. Pre-
passthechablis 20:13 teaching vocab as HW task can be excellent prep for SEN pupils
#ukedchat
@GiftedPhoenix #ukedchat and have a real dialogue with schools
sueellendixon 20:13 about how to be a partner in their children's education - not an
unpaid TA
Natty08 20:13 I hate setting homework, I think kids do enough within school. My
Year 3's are shattered at the end of each day #ukedchat
#ukedchat As a special school we don't set h/w - lack of parental
cleverfiend 20:13 support/ability. Our CVA figures are high & we are an outstanding
school.
@KShaw1977 that's cos foundation has it sorted! we need to copy
ianaddison 20:13
that idea #ukedchat
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RT @raff31: If homework is good then why do the ones who "need" it
jessamacookie 20:13 most are most often the ones who get nagged most for not doing it?
#ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:13 #ukedchat set enquiries on posterous parents could print off and help
in coursework at home. Had best coursework results ever last year!
I rewrote policy last year to include projects and more flexiblility.
Takeup has been 'mixed' #ukedchat
musicmind 20:13 #UKEdChat Some fantastic stuff seen with G&T kids....and SEN for that
matter....tickle them with what they fancy I say and let skills dvlp
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:13 #ukedchat i do think h/w can be useful for students reinforcing
concepts they have found difficult by practising in their own time.
@missbrownsword see... that's the point. it becomes the challenge of
john_at_muuua 20:13
'doing it' rather than learning. #ukedchat
RT @chris_1974: my kids do home learning, not home work. Is that
Totallywired77 20:13
different? #ukedchat
genkijen 20:13 #ukedchat , my children are begining to engage with vle and have put
some tasks on there , but its tricky to use which is offputting
Nevagonnabslim 20:13 Homework is necc for Coursework but that's targeted, personalised
and moves students on. Otherwise I'm against #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:13 RT @missbrownsword: as a pupil I NEVER EVER did my homework!

#ukedchat <- I did mine on the bus. meaningful learning experience!
bevevans22 20:13 @ianaddison I don't set homework, but I do post challenges linked to
ICT topics on our portal area. optional but loads opt in #ukedchat
KnikiDavies 20:13 #ukedchat we sometimes set a big project over several weeks. Here is
an example - kids really motivated! http://twitpic.com/3ty7rx
Isn't it a legal requirement to set homework? That's what I was
ianaddison 20:13
told...#ukedchat
@chrismayoh Me neither but if a child spends 30mins doing
robertd1981 20:13 homework is it fair if another child doesn't, or do they see big picture
#ukedchat
at our school all hwk is now in the form of a 4/5 week project
phillengthorn 20:13
#ukedchat
dawnhallybone 20:13 we have fortnightly know and show then 1 lit/topic activity too - some
always do and love it others..... #ukedchat
What's the best homework you've set this year? Mine was'find a
googlewhack' for Y7. #ukedchat
@raff31 #ukedchat which begs the question about what their real
sueellendixon 20:14
'needs' actually are - it aint homework
john_at_muuua 20:14 @narthernlad this is always the problem. I'm becoming jaded with
#ukedchat because it's about fast connections not great ideas.
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RT @cleverfiend: #ukedchat As a special school we don't set h/w -
Creativeedu 20:14 lack of parental support/ability. Our CVA figures are high & we are an
outstanding school.
narthernlad 20:14 #ukedchat Look at what @DeputyMitchell 's kids do on their blog!
That is all work done at home. 6.6 points in a year cant be sniffed at!
RT @ianaddison: Isn't it a legal requirement to set homework? That's
Jokprice 20:14
what I was told...#ukedchat
chris_1974 20:14 #ukedchat is there a difference between primary and secondary here?
musicians practice b/n lessons. Why not mathemticians?
ianaddison 20:14
different? #ukedchat NO!! just a name
#ukedchat anyone else getting spammed about
didactylos 20:14
homeworking....aargh!!!!!!!!
KnikiDavies 20:14 #ukedchat they could research any aspect of ww2 they wanted -
allowed them to follow own interests and extend learning
ianaddison 20:14 @Totallywired77 i disagree, calling it home learning is pointless.

Parents would still see it as homework. It's just a name #ukedchat
as a parent - enjoy spending time with kids doing theirs although
dawnhallybone 20:14
sometimes it is a battle :( #ukedchat
sueellendixon 20:14 @chris_1974 #ukedchat -OH yes - vastly different
genkijen 20:14 @KnikiDavies #ukedchat we did some projects which lots of kids liked
, some found it hard to pace themselves and rushed night before
I agree! RT @ethinking: #ukedchat best home work: go home play
with your mum and dad
tj007 20:14 I set HW because I have to, but I try 2 make the most of it by adding
questions that test understanding. #ukedchat #mathchat
#ukedchat Has anyone ever seen a good homework policy? Any
GiftedPhoenix 20:14
examples to share?
@GiftedPhoenix or just cut & pasted from Internet!! #ukedchat
RealLara 20:14 @asober I rarely set anything that's dependant on Internet but if I do
I'll give children a chance to complete in a lunchtime #ukedchat
@tombarrett as a deputy...do you have any thoughts on homework?
ianaddison 20:15
#ukedchat
dawnhallybone 20:15 are we setting homework because expectation is there from parents
and its what they do at secondary? #ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat Perhaps form tutors chat with kids about
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:15 what they are involved in outside school and can log against PLTs SEAL
etc
we are currently looking at homework/marking policies at school
ClaireJoanne35 20:15 where I am a governor. Looking at examples from other schools
#ukedchat
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#ukedchat I try to set HW 80% of the time, every 4 weeks they get
marketspi 20:15
week off. I say enjoy it & take a break :)
bluemoonjules 20:15 @ZoeAndrewsAST I agree with you there #ukedchat
@ethinking take the child out, visit places, see the world. best
john_at_muuua 20:15
homework ever! #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:15 @GiftedPhoenix Yep, but not on me. #ukedchat
so do I RT @learninganorak: @CreativeEdu @missbrownsword I
missbrownsword 20:15 resent the intrusion of homework on my time with my children
#ukedchat
GiftedPhoenix 20:15
different? #ukedchat
Our parents demand then pay a tutor to sit with them and do it?
Jokprice 20:15
Waste of everyones time! #ukedchat
RT @Natty08: My Year 3's are shattered at the end of each day
ianaddison 20:15
#ukedchat <and so are you??
RealLara 20:15 @raff31 I've stopped nagging. Encouragement. Opportunity to do

with me in school. No nagging. Don't see how it helps #ukedchat
@RealLara @asober same here, not all have home access so can't set
squiggle7 20:15
exclusive internet based HW #ukedchat
Since signing up to PurpleMash pupils are more than happy to do
bevevans22 20:15 some extra work at home #ukedchat Choice of recording makes a
difference
musicmind 20:15 @chris_1974 Yes we do......practice...and make music and think and
we are just truly amazing people....musicians...... #UKEdChat
genkijen 20:15 @chrismayoh @robertd1981 #ukedchat good advice :-)
We have learning logs and set 'show us what you know' tasks each
GaryAveryICT 20:15 week.. Children have complete free range to return what they want
#ukedchat
passthechablis 20:15 @Totallywired77 good point! #ukedchat
te_ach_er 20:15 If it's a legal requirement there must be all sorts of complex rules? e.g.
frequency? What age children etc #ukedchat
#ukedchat HW I remember workin was girl asked for help in math. I
jessamacookie 20:16 suggest some hw and they agreed, no pressure hand it in & it was
done well
@missbrownsword My wee boy's at nursery and I resent his
funkyhaggis 20:16
homework! #ukedchat Terrible I know...
ÔÇ£@squiggle7: I hate marking homework. #ukedchatÔÇØ <- what
purer_ethics 20:16
Emma said!
sueellendixon 20:16 #ukedchat if we have homework at all it needs to stay skills focussed
not content/worksheets. Gove won't like it!!!
@john_at_muuua @narthernlad you can just pick and choose, and
ianaddison 20:16
there's always the archive #ukedchat
@dawnhallybone and should we at secondary. I say yes, but am
chris_1974 20:16
willing to be challenged in my thinking #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: RT @Natty08: My Year 3's are shattered at the end
Natty08 20:16
of each day #ukedchat <and so are you?? <-- yes!
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Watching @bevevans22 video on Learning Logs! Great stuff. Everyone
asober 20:16
on #ukedchat tonight should watch it!
#ukedchat some of the best homework i got in the past was when i
didactylos 20:16 told the kids explicitly not to do something or watch something!
Headology!
tj007 20:16 I also like to give pupils the opportunity to show off learning and to
share new learning too - especially if they can be creative #ukedchat
RT @dawnhallybone: are we setting homework because expectation
bevevans22 20:16 is there from parents and its what they do at secondary? #ukedchat <-
maybe
squiggle7 20:16 @chris_1974 that is an excellent point! #ukedchat
RT @cleverfiend: #ukedchat As a special school we don't set h/w -
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:16 lack of parental support/ability. Our CVA figures are high & we are an
outstanding school.
#ukedchat what are reading diaries for - do I have to prove I am
ethinking 20:16 reading with my child? Am I accountable to teachers? Not bloody
likely
genkijen 20:16 @KnikiDavies #ukedchat we did something similar . I had the life story
of a grandad who survived Auschwitz. amazing stuff Y6 !
RT @MrColleyStMarys: What's the best homework you've set this
Creativeedu 20:16 year? Mine was'find a googlewhack' for Y7. #ukedchat <what's a
googlewhack?
MrColleyStMarys 20:17 @Creativeedu http://is.gd/xK5y9h Google search that yields only one
result. Linked to advanced search lesson #ukedchat
musicmind 20:17 #UKEdChat Most interesting homework ever was when I told a group
to 'do what you like' learning for a week.......was AMAZING
ianaddison 20:17 @Totallywired77 we still say to othe kids 'have you finished your
work'. Work is used a lot, but parents call it work too #ukedchat
RT @GaryAveryICT: We set 'show us what you know' tasks each
RealLara 20:17 week.. Children have free range to return what they want #ukedchat
<great idea
tombarrett 20:17 @ianaddison As a parent I think that children spend a big chunk of
their day at school - reading at home is important though #ukedchat
@squiggle7 i usually use sprts as an analogy. You knwo the rules of
chris_1974 20:17
rugby so why go to rugby practice?? #ukedchat
@ianaddison @Totallywired77 doesn't the idea of 'home learning'
passthechablis 20:17
give a different perspective? #ukedchat
Do you mark homework? If so, in how much detail and how
te_ach_er 20:17
frequently? #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:18 Controlled assessments. Now in year 8-9 do enquiries developing the
skills parents see pupils work and skills required. And help #ukedchat
#ukedchat that's what we do in primary schools - train them for
ethinking 20:18
secondary. Not
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sueellendixon 20:18 #ukedchat I'm now a gran in educ but don't remember my girls and I
being under same pressure 20 years ago. our of hand it seems to me
@purer_ethics i don't deal with homework, i'm just the PPA teacher!
ianaddison 20:18
#ukedchat
I'm sometimes dismayed that a 30 minute HW turned out to be a 2
tj007 20:18 hour torture for some pupils, but a 20 min doddle for others
#ukedchat
musicmind 20:18
@sueellendixon #UKEdChat I say 'Gov' get real for 21st C Learners....
@te_ach_er #ukedchat There used to be some homework guidance
GiftedPhoenix 20:18 issued by Department for Education - I think its very old now - non-
statutory
@funkyhaggis what homework do you get from nursery? #ukedchat
purer_ethics 20:18 @ianaddison you are so lucky! I have to chase every last child and
then mark or set detentions as needed #ukedchat
RT @Dunfordjames: Extended learning my schls solution to hwk issue.
fullonlearning 20:18 Long term cross curricular themed projects, eg theme parks, money.
#ukedchat
ParsleyBill 20:18 'Surgical strike' homework can IMO be useful when you direct parents
to work with you on a child's specific area of need. #ukedchat
@kennypieper do you mean class as in middle classes care, others
Catriona_O 20:18
don't ?#ukedchat
bevevans22 20:18 When we did set sheet based homework parents could opt out if they
didn't want child to do it - pointless really #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:18 To ensure a good work life balance I have a rule about NOT taking my
work home. Why is it different for kids? #UKEdChat
RT @musicmind: #UKEdChat Most interesting homework ever was
fullonlearning 20:18 when I told a group to 'do what you like' learning for a week.......was
AMAZING
#ukedchat one homework was bake cakes with parent ( got photos
genkijen 20:18 comments ) and lots of samples ha ha Parents enjoyed spending the
time
@chrisbest1980 #ukedchat True, but even helping take out bins,
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:18 unload shopping correctly or posting some letters earns some sense
of resp
daibarnes 20:18 @tombarrett As a parent, I have always thought it important I read

the same books and discuss them as we go. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:18 @Totallywired77 we can call it whatever we want, parents would still
say 'have you done your homework?' #ukedchat
nursery get HW??!! RT @funkyhaggis: @missbrownsword My wee
missbrownsword 20:18 boy's at nursery and I resent his homework! #ukedchat Terrible I
know...
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#ukedchat homework like absurd uniforms is inherently good for you
didactylos 20:18 because that's what public schools are like - especially boarding
schools
Dunfordjames 20:18 Extended learning my schls solution to hwk issue. Long term cross
curricular themed projects, eg theme parks, money. #ukedchat
chris_1974 20:19 @squiggle7 true, but lessons to learn new skills, hwk to embed
techniques. Usign it for revision topics with y10/11 mainly. #ukedchat
@ZoeAndrewsAST #ukedchat We take every opportunity to help
cleverfiend 20:19 students learn in school down to knife/fork skills at lunch. Better than
h/w!
@missbrownsword wee is a boy's nursery homework? makes sense :-
john_at_muuua 20:19
) #ukedchat
@funkyhaggis @missbrownsword #ukedchat - not terrible say you
sueellendixon 20:19
wont do it - that is ridiculous. play play play
CliveBuckley 20:19 Friend of mine (yr 5 / 6 teacher) uses peer marking. Reckons the
children are better than him at marking and (impt) learn! #ukedchat
@ianaddison You're NOT just the PPA teacher. You are an important
bevevans22 20:19
person!!!! :) #ukedchat
@ethinking #UKEdChat Maybe secondary schools need to be more
musicmind 20:19
like primary.
@MrColleyStMarys thank you! i'm forever learning something new
Creativeedu 20:19
from #UKEdChat!
ianaddison 20:19 @funkyhaggis nursery homework??? mental! #ukedchat
marketspi 20:19 #ukedchat I take in books about once every 3/4 weeks for a class, the
rest is a mix of marking in class or other. Keeps me sane! @te_ach_er
robertd1981 20:19 @chrismayoh #ukedchat I agree but there will be 5 or 6 in class who
don't do it, I think you need hi self-esteem not to feel its unfair
RT @RealLara: RT @GaryAveryICT: We set 'show us what you know'
jessamacookie 20:19 tasks each week.. Children have free range to return what they want
#ukedchat <great idea
MrColleyStMarys 20:19 when I told a group to 'do what you like' learning for a week.......was
AMAZING
Nevagonnabslim 20:19 @CreativeEdu never been able to do that #ukedchat
Totallywired77 20:19 RT @passthechablis: @ianaddison @Totallywired77 doesn't the idea

of 'home learning' give a different perspective? #ukedchat
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat what are reading diaries for-do I have to
ianaddison 20:19 prove I am reading with my child? Am I accountable to teachers?Not
likely
Natty08 20:19 Actually I would just prefer parents would do sounds, reading etc. and
spend time with their children that should be homework #ukedchat
@ianaddison except i want to be a participant, not a spectator. I love
john_at_muuua 20:19
#ukedchat, but only the fast survive.
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@chris_1974 @squiggle7 but then you could argue that that's what
squiggle7 20:19
lessons are for. #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 20:20 I hated when I was a school tutor and had to check homework and
that parents had signed h/w diaries! #ukedchat
#ukedchat we have daily reading as our homework. That's it. Anything
jjash 20:20
else is self motivated eg writing on blogs.
passthechablis 20:20 @CreativeEdu children have been working all day too - do we
sometimes forget how hard they have to work? #ukedchat
@bevevans22 yeah I know, but homework isn't part of my duty
ianaddison 20:20
#thanfully #ukedchat
#ukedchat. My boy will not do homework, he will not have a reading
ethinking 20:20
diary, I am his teachers worst nightmare
JOHNSAYERS 20:20 If parents see homework set (vle twitter) pupils get more done bit like
big brother they talk more about their learning issues #ukedchat
KShaw1977 20:20 #ukedchat It has to be purposeful! How many parents end up doing
it? Make it fun activities and it will consolidate work in class!
@CreativeEdu Should we have a longer school day to allow pupils to
tj007 20:20 undertake their independent learning/HW there instead of home?
#ukedchat
RT @Natty08: And by reading I tend to mean a book of choice not a
robertd1981 20:20
dull reading scheme book #ukedchat
And by reading I tend to mean a book of choice not a dull reading
Natty08 20:20
scheme book #ukedchat
RT @tj007: I'm sometimes dismayed that a 30 minute HW turned out
richardsw16 20:20 to be a 2 hour torture for some pupils, but a 20 min doddle for others
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:20
@tombarrett do you like setting/marking homework? #ukedchat
fullonlearning 20:20
#ukedchat who is homework for? Always wondered about this.
GiftedPhoenix 20:20 @CreativeEdu Google a googlewhack! #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:20 @daibarnes yes I can imagine that would be really important - the
informal conversations the ongoing discussion #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:20 #ukedchat just joining sorry ...... I think parents have to take a little
responsibility - my daughter has h/w and we complete in diff ways
#ukedchat Tend to set home learning to consolidate learning and
mbrayford 20:21
supports forthcoming topics
#ukedchat definitely required at A level I think, at primary school not
Sundayteatime 20:21
apart from reading. In between sliding scale?
jodieworld 20:21 #ukedchat I think at primary level set homework but don't set
punishments for children who don't do it. It's not usually their fault!
@daibarnes being part of ongoing reading - whether you discuss or do
tombarrett 20:21
it together is key #ukedchat
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@ianaddison #ukedchat lunch dt for first offence. If they miss that
purer_ethics 20:21 afterschool. Miss that it becomes 2 afterschool then hod or hoy
involved
@fullonlearning #UKEdChat The blinking Inspection Teams I reckon
musicmind 20:21
!!!
ianaddison 20:21 @Totallywired77 totally, it'll take ages to change parent's vocabulary
though (part of my role here is devil's advocate too) #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:21 @ianaddison Nor mine really, but I do have input on the challenges
set for the logs and do run a logs club...#ukedchat #iamtheclubqueen
We've all seen examples of homework that the parents have actually
GaryAveryICT 20:21
done.. #ukedchat
@chris_1974 same correlation between those that listen in class and
narthernlad 20:21
do hw #ukedchat
#ukedchat hard to get balance right i find, some parents want loads of
mkwoods77 20:21
hwk whilst others are not bothered.
We have just spent ┬ú700 on lit and num hw books parents and kids
Jokprice 20:21
love them colour and easy! #ukedchat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:21 @narthernlad #ukedchat Those kids just do min to not get in trouble
anyway. Not sure h/w improves opp for developing learning or skills!
Creativeedu 20:21 @Nevagonnabslim I'm not a teacher. I think it's impossible for
teachers not to take work home! #UKEdChat
jobadge 20:21 as a parent homework gives me a clue as to what my kids are doing in
school. Only form of curriculum communication I get #ukedchat
#ukedchat sit with daughter and make powerpoints / use web 2.0
ForesterJo 20:21 tools etc and send in on memory stick think partly my job to make
more fun
#UKEdChat Eternal homework topic......'Go and seek the
musicmind 20:21 world....discover, learn, fail, learn from failure, learn again...seek the
world.
high correlation b/n those that do hwk regularly and those that
chris_1974 20:21
achieve high results. coincidence? #ukedchat
@tombarrett Still goes on now with LOTR, War and peace,
daibarnes 20:21
shakespeare, northern lights, - various ages #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua even with hours for the course, the indpt learning
chris_1974 20:22
thing is crucial. #ukedchat
@passthechablis I've never worked harder than when I was doing my
Creativeedu 20:22
GCSEs #UKEdChat
s@chris_1974 Surely that's like the figures for owning a PC and
cleverfiend 20:22 achievement. More down to culture than the individual activities
#ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:22 @kennypieper so what did you mean then? #ukedchat?
sueellendixon 20:22 @fullonlearning #ukedchat and that's the important question that
schools, kids and parents need to all agree upon
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@ethinking have you asked his teacher to stop sending homework
ianaddison 20:22
home? #ukedchat
RT @tj007: @CreativeEdu Should we have a longer school day to
Creativeedu 20:22 allow pupils to undertake their independent learning/HW there
instead of home? #ukedchat
@cleverfiend #ukedchat Completely agree with you. Life
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:22 skills/responsibility much more important than tasks that aren't
completely properly.
mkwoods77 20:22 #Ukedchat with regards marking I try and get the kids to mark
eachothers, try and steal something new from a friend.
ClaireJoanne35 20:22 @jobadge sadly this can be true! #ukedchat
#ukedchat I'm now stepping back on "punishing" yr 11 lack of HW.
marketspi 20:22 They need to take responsibility now or fail in college. Anyone else
agree?
#ukedchat. Is it right to punish children for not doing homework,
Whorwe 20:22 when some get absolutely no support from home- parental or
technological?
#ukedchat Anyone out there so unreconstructed that they still use a
GiftedPhoenix 20:22
red pen to mark homework?
john_at_muuua 20:22 @ianaddison at GCSE homework can seem vital. but it's really
because we do not have enough hours for the course. #ukedchat
I know you're busy finding hotels in Scotland at the mo
chrisrat 20:22 @kirstiemallsopp but there's a v good homework chat going on now
with #ukedchat tag!
phillengthorn 20:22 RT @mkwoods77: #ukedchat hard to get balance right i find, some
parents want loads of hwk whilst others are not bothered <-- i agree
mathiaspoulsen 20:22 Pressing question indeed. Sometimes neither students nor teachers,
I'd say RT @fullonlearning: #ukedchat who is homework for?
@narthernlad there are some that listen but not do hwk. They do
chris_1974 20:22
inbetween! #ukedchat
@fullonlearning its deeply ingrained in school culture .. hard to shift
theokk 20:22
#ukedchat need to look at alternative models
miss_mcinerney 20:22 #ukedchat My mum used to sign my homework diary in advance for
the year. She hated doing it. And then I got into trouble!
@sueellendixon @reallara We do some homework via blogs
raff31 20:22
http://bit.ly/9LlYxC #ukedchat
@tj007 @creativeedu Surely half the point of homework is to engage
predacomDom 20:23 parents with their kids learning. More time at school doesn't.
#ukedchat
RT @daibarnes: @tombarrett True. I think reading is key to
robertd1981 20:23 everything. Low ability Y9 maths, Y6 reasoning, Y12 ICT. Do it young.
Get it right. #ukedchat
mathiaspoulsen 20:23 Good point RT @CreativeEdu: To ensure good work life balance I am
NOT taking my work home. Why is it different for kids? #UKEdChat
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@ianaddison not always. The ones that let themselves in, get their
chris_1974 20:23
own tea, and do thier work. #ukedchat
RT @bevevans22: We don't mark the learning logs - they are peer
asober 20:23 assessed. Teachers and parent sign to acknowledge the work done.
#ukedchat
Natty08 20:23 Children need to be children. Let them play! I would sooner a child
didn't do h/w but spent 30 quality mins with adult #ukedchat
@tombarrett following up because they want to is one thing...wish
ianaddison 20:23
more would do that #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:23 @jobadge so if we send detailed curriculum letters, detailing what we

do then parents would be able to pick own activities. #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:23 We don't mark the learning logs - they are peer assessed. Teachers
and parent sign to acknowledge the work done. #ukedchat
What do people think of using further key skills style to homework?
JOHNSAYERS 20:23
Problem solving working in group.. #ukedchat
daibarnes 20:23 @tombarrett True. I think reading is key to everything. Low ability Y9
maths, Y6 reasoning, Y12 ICT. Do it young. Get it right. #ukedchat
te_ach_er 20:23 @Jokprice Was the justification behind buying the books supporting
children's learning? Homework is such a contentious issue #ukedchat
asober 20:23 RT @Totallywired77: #Ukedchat
#ukedchat our school has started marking in green pen cos of
jodieworld 20:23 connotations of red pen. I think we are just creating bad connotations
of green
I just wish my daughter could have spent more of the last 10 years
john_at_muuua 20:23 just having fun rather than completing 'the legal requirement'
#ukedchat
marketspi 20:23
@Nevagonnabslim I still have to do that, I hate it! #ukedchat
@chris_1974 no...it means they have supportive parents anyway
ianaddison 20:23
#ukedchat
@ianaddison mmmm I am not a huge fan #ukedchat and yet some
tombarrett 20:23 kids love the opportunity to follow things up in their own way in their
own time
@ianaddison it can be useful, scrapping will never happen. A lifelong
purer_ethics 20:23
battle for teachers! #ukedchat
Totallywired77 20:23 #Ukedchat
#ukedchat How about those parents who have to work and the only
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:24
time they get with their kids is helping with h/w?
ianaddison 20:24 @DeputyMitchell cos 8pm is enough for most children to be in bed!
after they've done their homework of course #ukedchat
robertd1981 20:24
@tas_sasso #ukedchat Sadly that can be the case quite often
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Natty08 20:24 I hated h/w as a child it ended in tears and arguments with my dad
they are not fond memories at all, for either of us! #ukedchat
ctrl c ctrl v standard homework for some kids... what good does
GaryAveryICT 20:24
that do them? #ukedchat
ClaireJoanne35 20:24 @jodieworld we have been looking at using different colours

depending upon who marks - teacher, TA, etc #ukedchat
we have 'study extra' - 90mins after school, to support pupils that
phillengthorn 20:24
have issues - secondary #ukedchat
tas_sasso 20:24 #ukedchat the kids that usually need that extra bit of support at home
are probably the ones who won't get support doing their HW anyway.
Why does everything start at 8pm!? I take it the subject is value of
DeputyMitchell 20:24
homework? #ukedchat
@ianaddison what about the idea of work at home? Do you do
jjash 20:24
homework or do u do work at home? #ukedchat
theokk 20:24 @tombarrett @daibarnes #ukedchat agree important thing is culture

of 'learning' at home w parents and encouraged by school
@jobadge #ukedchat don't you think there is a better way for you to
sueellendixon 20:24
get curriculum info - not rely on homework?
MrColleyStMarys 20:24 RT @Totallywired77: #Ukedchat
mbrayford 20:24
#ukedchat For Maths we use Mathletics which the children love using
musicmind 20:24 @failbettercw Was just fantastic., school loved it.,kids loved it I loved
it...there was so many things covered it was a carnival. #UKEdChat
#ukedchat marking hw together as a class is the way forward but I still
boyerricardo 20:24
say no to hw.
didactylos 20:24 #ukedchat if homework is essential cos not enough time in school to
do work then another inequality built into system - last wks chat?
@theokk Surely homework is about quality rather than quantity.
daibarnes 20:25 Project based is better - open ended, cross-curricular even.
#ukedchat
RT @Natty08: Children need to be children. Let them play! I would
jackieschneider 20:25 sooner a child didn't do h/w but spent 30 quality mins with adult
#ukedchat
jobadge 20:25 @sueellendixon yes, I think that they teachers should let us know
what topics they are covering each term/ half term. #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 20:25 @marketspi yeah it's crappiest job! We don't like setting it. Kids hate
it! We hate checking it! Why is their still h/w! #ukedchat
tj007 20:25 @predacomDom Yes, it is important to engage parents but at

secondary, pupils should become increasingly independent #ukedchat
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We should be more critical about homework in general, don't just do
mathiaspoulsen 20:25 it as reflex. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't
#UKEdChat
marketspi 20:25 RT @Totallywired77: #Ukedchat
@chris_1974 yes. But each child will be 'independent' differently.
john_at_muuua 20:25 Homework assumes they are all in situations that help that.
#ukedchat
@ClaireJoanne35 That makes a lot more sense to me #ukedchat at
jodieworld 20:25
least it's for some benefit
@theokk agree. H/w makes reminds me of renzulli's 'task
fullonlearning 20:25 commitment' & daniel pink's reference to autonomy as intrinsic
motivator #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:25 @asober we do the same with the ICT challenges: peer assessment, 2
stars and a wish, pupils keep a record of their own projects #ukedchat
RealLara 20:25 @phillengthorn @mkwoods77 Put it in hands of parents then. If they

want the battles let them go for it. I vote for optional #ukedchat
@GaryAveryICT acknowledge that not every parent wld create things
jobadge 20:25
at home, but some will. I would. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:25 @jjash i just do work. lots of it! #ukedchat
Currently expected to do daily reading, phonics and HF words with
passthechablis 20:25 Foundation Stage son. Homework not kicked in yet. Too much
#ukedchat
@tj007 have memories of seein my bro struggle from 6 till bed time
jessamacookie 20:26 to do hw when it would take me 30mins. Hated seein him so upset
#ukedchat
mkwoods77 20:26 @john_at_muuua similar to classroom, if we can make 'learning' fun

no matter in/outside school then kids will be up for it #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:26 @jobadge I agree, if we were more open parents would feel happier
to seek own opportunities to teach children #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:26 RT @GaryAveryICT: ctrl c ctrl v standard homework for some kids
#ukedchat <At least teach them to remove hyperlinks! ;)
Creativeedu 20:26 @predacomDom I was a non-fee payer in a fee paying school.

everyone else's parents COULD help with their HW! #UKEdChat
purer_ethics 20:26 @marketspi psssh not likely. I need mine to keep their noses to
grindstone. Instant AS DT if no hw. Got heads child in class #ukedchat
@didactylos important point - analyse use of time in school for
theokk 20:26
learning v other things going on #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua Which is why we offer so much support for our
bevevans22 20:26 learning log projects - every child (and their situation)is different
#ukedchat
@john_at_muuua true. we will of course support those that don;t
chris_1974 20:26
have the right environment at home. #ukedchat
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RT @Natty08: Children need to be children. Let them play!I would
ianaddison 20:26 sooner a child didn't do h/w but spent 30 quality mins with adult
#ukedchat
pcwoessner 20:26 There are 2 big HW camps in the US: more = better (kids need rigor)
and less = better (kids need relaxation). Polarized in UK 2? #ukedchat
@te_ach_er no that all teachers hate it and our head thinks waste of
Jokprice 20:26
time but parents demand! #ukedchat
#ukedchat reading for pleasure shows it produces successful leanring
sueellendixon 20:26 outcomes - that should be a major part of homework- read what you
like
#ukedchat I'd like to see more of the 'work with someone at home
didactylos 20:26
to.......' - encourage a greater learning culture
Does every pupil have Internet, time at home is it equal opps fair?
JOHNSAYERS 20:26 Parental involvement taking over? Episode of outnumbered!
#ukedchat
@predacomDom maybe? my parents both left school at 14 & could
Creativeedu 20:26 never help me with mine which made it hard to keep up with my
peers #UKEdChat
@jodieworld we have that...red means good and green means bad.
ianaddison 20:26
red hot and growing green #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:26 As an ICT teacher I have to make lunch/after school available for HW
to ensure equality of provision. #ukedchat
tas_sasso 20:26 #ukedchat and why do some parents clearly do the homework for
their kids? Like we don't know what their capable of! Waste of time.
@jodieworld #ukedchat same in our school re: green pen but I refuse,
Mallrat_uk 20:27
red is just easier to see against work!
GaryAveryICT 20:27 @MrColleyStMarys Easy to spot when the L2 pupils suddenly start
using clauses and paragraphs!! :o) #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua absolutely. Mustn't take the emotional intelligence
chris_1974 20:27
out of the situation. #ukedchat
@ianaddison Ours is tickled pink and green for growth but it's the
bevevans22 20:27
same thing :) #ukedchat
KShaw1977 20:27 #ukedchat I send out a 'Week that Was' letter so parents know what
chdn have learnt that week and add some ideas for activities at home.
#UKEdChat How about trusting children to try and learn themselves
musicmind 20:27
and see what happens for a week or two.
sueellendixon 20:27 @ZoeAndrewsAST #ukedchat so parents have to spend their 'free'

time doing 'directed school tasks - bonkers - say NO
theokk 20:27
@daibarnes didn't think I was saying otherwise? #ukedchat think o
#ukedchat lol I told them never to bother - it wouldn't be done - they
ethinking 20:27
do school - I do home ;)
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#ukedchat h/w this week is question about materials that chdn
ForesterJo 20:27 themselves want to find answer to - hoping parents might use
YouTube for Ed??
its also ensuring that children have time and ability to complete
dawnhallybone 20:27
learning at home #ukedchat
@chris_1974 when a girl spends the night travelling on a bus, saying
john_at_muuua 20:27
'where's your homework?' is a joke. #ukedchat
RT @GaryAveryICT: ctrl c ctrl v standard homework for some kids...
richardsw16 20:27
what good does that do them? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:27
saw that at BETT... looked fab! @mbrayford #UKEdChat re mathletics
predacomDom 20:27 @CreativeEdu It's not just about parents helping. What about parents
learning from their kids? And caring, discussing. #UKEdChat
My old school had homework club, children did it in a
ianaddison 20:27
lunchtime...what was the point in that? #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:27 @jobadge we send home curric overviews at the beginning middle
and end of each term to cover this #ukedchat
@purer_ethics @ianaddison do you think that is due to parental
mkwoods77 20:27
power?
GiftedPhoenix 20:27 #ukedchat How successfully do you differentiate homework tasks? In

my experience not always done (let alone done effectively)
daibarnes 20:27 @tas_sasso Because they want you to think well of the child's home
and the child. And do a job then do it well. #ukedchat
From a Maths pov, I sometimes ask the pupils to explain new concept
tj007 20:28 to parents and they write a comment back, after having a go
#ukedchat
Natty08 20:28 @McDroll @ianaddison then neither is happening but why punish a
child for something that a parent won't help them with? #ukedchat
@ianaddison @Natty08 #ukedchat here here - the benefits are
sueellendixon 20:28 enormous. instead we are producing anxious young people -
timebombticking
@Mallrat_uk I think the comment matters more than the colour!
jodieworld 20:28 Proper AfL marking is useful for teacher and child regardless
#ukedchat
@GaryAveryICT yes, needs support. For example, maths methods very
jobadge 20:28 diff from how I was taught. Been reading http://amzn.to/gi8cOm
#ukedchat
daibarnes 20:28
@theokk Just chatting. Not being contrary Theo. :) #ukedchat
bureauista 20:28 @dawnhallybone We worry because daughter at primary school gets

more homework than her brother at secondary. #ukedchat
robertd1981 20:28 RT @musicmind: #UKEdChat Tell themNO H/W this week just
'Discovery Time' and see what happens !<- Like the sound of that!
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ianaddison 20:28 @daibarnes you forgot on the bus! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:28 @predacomDom I think maybe I had the wrong sort of parents! Good
point though. I think you're absolutely right. #UKEdChat
ianaddison 20:28 @bevevans22 but then we have traffic lights where green means I get
it. So they mark in green for good, i mark in red for good. #ukedchat
ClaireJoanne35 20:28 @KShaw1977 this sounds like a great idea #ukedchat
@chris_1974 how can we judge 'the right home environment'?
john_at_muuua 20:28
#ukedchat
#UKEdChat Tell themNO H/W this week just 'Discovery Time' and see
musicmind 20:28
what happens !
jackieschneider 20:28 #ukedchat - too often h/w = dull worksheets, pointless sentence
writing. There are so many better things kids could be doing!
RT @sueellendixon: #ukedchat reading for pleasure shows it produces
mushychelle 20:28 successful leanring outcomes - that should be a major part of
homework- read what you like
purer_ethics 20:28 @mkwoods77 not at all. Govt wouldn't allow it! I just can't see it
happening. Parents will find other ways to exert power. #ukedchat
@ianaddison Children see homework as not-in-lesson work.
daibarnes 20:28 Registration. Break/Lunch. All good to them. Better then home even.
#ukedchat
@john_at_muuua that's just what @kennypieper was saying!
Catriona_O 20:29
#ukedchat
#ukedchat let's do evidence - does anyone have any empirical
ethinking 20:29
evidence that hwk works?
fullonlearning 20:29 @kennypieper But it needn't be such a chore, surely. Look at us now,
choosing to have a professional discussion! #ukedchat
sueellendixon 20:29 @chris_1974 @john_at_muuua #ukedchat I think Gove's plans don;t

include any emotional factors. Every child now doens't matter
@bevevans22 i can't follow it so no idea how they manage!
ianaddison 20:29
#ukedchat
mkwoods77 20:29 @daibarnes @ianaddison Do any schools out there have a homework
club? We r trying that out at mo, for kids without internet #ukedchat
homework can sometimes put child under added pressure at home -
dawnhallybone 20:29
not helping anyone then #ukedchat
#ukedchat We have an after school club that children choose to
KShaw1977 20:29 attend to complete homework with a teacher on hand to give support
if needed.
predacomDom 20:29 @CreativeEdu I don't understand what my wife does at work, but we
discuss it to support one another. #UKEdChat
bevevans22 20:29
@ianaddison I can see how that would be confusing...#ukedchat
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john_at_muuua 20:29 so if middle class kids are advantaged, and others are disadvantaged,
homework becomes the great divider. #ukedchat
@daibarnes nah I was always a good boy, mine was done (badly)
ianaddison 20:29
#ukedchat
#ukedchat homework should be to 'play outside' or 'start a new
tas_sasso 20:29 hobby'. So many missing opportunities due to the xbox era! Anyone
up for FIFA
musicmind 20:29 #UKEdChat You will get such amazing stuff you will have children
leading the learning in classes...sharing their discoveries
@tj007 I agree totally on importance of independent learning.Taking
predacomDom 20:29 learning home encourages parents to discuss their lives w kids
#ukedchat
daibarnes 20:29
@ianaddison SO that's where u did yours hey? ;) #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua now that;s a very good question. I really don;t
chris_1974 20:29
know the answer. #ukedchat
RT @kennypieper: @Catriona_O educational divide can be made
Catriona_O 20:29 worse by hwork. Some will always do it, some never. 4 genuine
reasons.#ukedchat
@Jokprice I know exactly what you mean, it's almost an institution.
te_ach_er 20:29 We did it when we were kids and it never did us any harm ....
#ukedchat
Do we share enough classwork with parents? Should we be using
GaryAveryICT 20:30 more online showcases and blogs. Then parents can see how to
support #ukedchat
@tas_sasso love the 'start a new hobby' idea. Over the next term,
ianaddison 20:30
share how it's going #ukedchat
dawnhallybone 20:30 some weekends do kids hwork on fri night as weekend is busy with
visiting museums and interacting with others #ukedchat
@ethinking #UKEdChat Just had a biggg laugh at that one.....no major
musicmind 20:30
research as far as I know !!
RT @tas_sasso: #ukedchat homework should be to 'play outside' or
ianaddison 20:30 'start a new hobby'. So many missing opportunities due to the xbox
era!
jackieschneider 20:30 #ukedchat - let's really push reading for pleasure. Set homework for
parents to read to their kids 30 mins a day upto Yr 9!
john_at_muuua 20:30 I propose homework that is not linked to the classroom. read that
book, visit that place. tell us about your life. #ukedchat
I remember my parents helping me learn to write my name and then I
daibarnes 20:30 was on my own. Always said everything was fine. Rarely was.
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:30 One thing HW did do for me was prepare me for the entirely
independent learning needed at Uni / work #UKEdChat
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@dawnhallybone Could be because primary teacher has 30 kids to set
homework for. I've got 270! #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:30 @sueellendixon this is exactly what I let 7 yr old daughter do read for
pleasure - rarely read book from school! Bad teacher mum #ukedchat
ClaireJoanne35 20:31 @ForesterJo I read to my daughters a lot when they were younger.
Seemed to encourage them to read too #ukedchat
RT @sueellendixon: @ianaddison @Natty08 #ukedchat here here -
jessamacookie 20:31 the benefits are enormous. instead we are producing anxious young
people - timebombticking
best homework i ever did was my daughter's 'build an elizabethan
john_at_muuua 20:31
house'... we won a prize! #ukedchat
HW mostly add value if it fits in larger framework of relevance. Does
mathiaspoulsen 20:31 the topic make sense to students, then homework will as well
#UKEdChat
musicmind 20:31 @GaryAveryICT Ever invited parents into lessons ? Try it....they get
scared and love it and the same time #UKEdChat
RT @GaryAveryICT: Do we share enough classwork with parents?
MrColleyStMarys 20:31 Should we be using more online showcases and blogs. Then parents
can see how to support #ukedchat
failbettercw 20:31 @mkwoods77 @daibarnes @ianaddison We do, but the students

without computers at home don't seem to attend anyway. #ukedchat
#ukedchat - I hate h/w both as a parent & a teacher. How does it help
jackieschneider 20:31
kids learning?
Homework is set by others.Work at home self directed. Self directed
jjash 20:31 work at home has more than double effectiveness than
homework.#ukedchat
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat let's do evidence - does anyone have any
ianaddison 20:31
empirical evidence that hwk works?
cleverfiend 20:31 #ukedchat So moving forward - how do you justify not setting formal
homework and what do you replace it with for pushy parents?
@jackieschneider #ukedchat I agree no learning taking place - boring
sueellendixon 20:31 dull excercises not related to meaning everyone hates them - so get
rid
@predacomDom Certainly - there has to be a balance and the more
tj007 20:31 interested the parents are the more likely the pupils do well...?
#ukedchat
bevevans22 20:31 Was disappointed when my son didn't get homework (because of his
disability!!!) - does that sound bad? #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua I agree especially if ICTbased! It singles them out in
classroom #ukedchat
RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I hate h/w both as a parent & a
ianaddison 20:32
teacher. How does it help kids learning?
@jjash Any ideas for structuring that kind of self-directed work then?
failbettercw 20:32
#ukedchat
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RT @robertd1981: #ukedchat What about a 4square style game for
cleverfiend 20:32 homework. Tick off - went somewhere, made something read book
watched film etc. Get badges etc
bevevans22 20:32 @CreativeEdu Just one stupid teacher who got it into her head that
he shouldn't have it...I was pretty cross actually #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:32 @cleverfiend i refer to my previous tweet. homework should be 100%

the parent's responsibility, not the school #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 20:32 @john_at_muuua ÔÇªcont) school #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:32 @McDroll @ethinking evem if it makes no difference, scrapping it

gives teachers an hour+ of their time back #ukedchat
Natty08 20:32 Also what about kids with SEN if I struggle to get them to work in class
how will parents succeed? Setting up to fail? #ukedchat
My homework evaluating 3 local curry menus to get curry from.
JOHNSAYERS 20:32
Debono it time..... #ukedchat
@cleverfiend Enrichment Time....extended thinking....etc etc etc
musicmind 20:32
....self discovery learning.... #UKEdChat
jobadge 20:32 grt idea : there's this in support http://bit.ly/hTGBic < rather old/ USA
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat let's do evidence
@chrismayoh mark their work, base starter on it, give written and
purer_ethics 20:32
spoken feedback #ukedchat
@bevevans22 why would he not get HW because of disability? I work
Creativeedu 20:32 with two special schools who set appropriate homework for all
#UKEdChat
#ukedchat What about a 4square style game for homework. Tick off -
robertd1981 20:32 went somewhere, made something read book watched film etc. Get
badges etc
When did life become so target driven? Why not just lay off so we
Natty08 20:32
have happy well rounded children? #ukedchat
RT @theokk: (most?) kids like challenges, find things out, creating: so
ForesterJo 20:33 encourage stuff not possible in class; and don't expect given
outcomes #ukedchat
passthechablis 20:33 @dawnhallybone i agree. Pressure for all. If the task is inappropriate/
inaccessible it can reinforce difficulty/ sense of failure #ukedchat
marketspi 20:33 #ukedchat HW is boring &crap but prepares you for real life & long hrs
working. Especially if you want to be a teacher when you grow up
theokk 20:33 (most?) kids like challenges, find things out, creating: so encourage
stuff not possible in class; and don't expect given outcomes #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:33 Our kids clocked 'teacher's too busy to mark it' v early in pupil voice
survey. They know when it's valued. #ukedchat
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shirlpj 20:33 #UKEdChat late joining but feel H/W not generally needed in Primary
but has its place in Secondary - my kids usually do it in school.
RT @Natty08: When did life become so target driven? Why not just
ianaddison 20:33 lay off so we have happy well rounded children? #ukedchat <crazy
lady!
has anyone picked up new ideas re HW tonight that they're planning
Creativeedu 20:33
to take forward? #UKEdChat
purer_ethics 20:33 Brb got to make the boys drinks and biscuits #ukedchat
Check out my year 3 classes fab new blog
toon_blue 20:33
http://hiltonch.primaryblogger.co.uk #ukedchat
fullonlearning 20:33 RT @jobadge: grt idea : there's this in support http://bit.ly/hTGBic <
rather old/ USA RT @ethinking: #ukedchat let's do evidence
robertd1981 20:33 #ukedchat Would be great to create a 4square style homework app
along those lines! - Any techies out there??
ForesterJo 20:33 @robertd1981 like the four square idea! #ukedchat
jacksloan 20:34 I often send my kids on trips for homework:Meaningful, gets the
whole family engaging and NO MARKING! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:34
Has anyone asked the children if they want homework? #ukedchat
@marketspi Definitely! (I agree mainly as I left school at 7:05pm
simcloughlin 20:34
tonight - long day!) #ukedchat
Do need to introduce some level of self time management in prep for
headteacher01 20:34
high school #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:34 RT @tj007: How many parents will do their childrens HW? Where is it
more likely - Primary / Secondary? #ukedchat LOADS
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:34 #ukedchat I think h/w would work better if there were
extension/consolidation materials that students could access
ianaddison 20:34 @tas_sasso can just imagine some parents moaning because you've
suggested they go buy a piano... #ukedchat
Sorry to hijack but anyone had section 8 ofsted is specialism still
inspected?? #ukedchat
Finally kids are in bed I can try to catch some #ukedchat and install
familysimpson 20:34
evernote (with a beer!)
@bevevans22 not surprised. I assume he is in mainstream? That must
Creativeedu 20:34 have been hard for your son to be made to feel different too.
#UKEdChat
didactylos 20:34 #ukedchat what would happen if we required kids to set their own
homework and demonstrate they had done it - any areas of learning?
chris_1974 20:34 I sometimes set a question I know students won't be able to do yet.
Tell them this up front. Challenge is what to do about it. #ukedchat
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bevevans22 20:34 @theokk That is the joy of setting them a two week learning log
project that they can complete however they like #ukedchat
@ianaddison pupils use xbox kinect in form after school. They got
JOHNSAYERS 20:34 motivated they worked harder achieved more. No homework needed
#ukedchat
How many parents will do their childrens HW? Where is it more likely -
tj007 20:34
Primary / Secondary? #ukedchat
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat let's do evidence - does anyone have any
theokk 20:34
empirical evidence that hwk works?
tas_sasso 20:34 @ianaddison teachers included too. My class were impressed when I
showed them a song I had just learnt on the piano. #ukedchat
thegreatgar 20:34 #ukedchat Homework;something wrong when every kid in the class
gets the same "task" ;encourage love of learning not repetitive grind
@tas_sasso god no! i don't have a hobby, i wouldn't know where to
ianaddison 20:35
start. Not musical at all #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: @Natty08 if only we were head teachers, we'd fix it
GaryAveryICT 20:35
all #ukedchat oh yes!
john_at_muuua 20:35 RT @Natty08: When did life become so target driven? Why not just
lay off so we have happy well rounded children? #ukedchat
RT @thegreatgar: #ukedchat Homework;something wrong when
fullonlearning 20:35 every kid in the class gets the same "task" ;encourage love of learning
not repetitive grind
@ianaddison #ukedchat Had good chat with partner's daughter about
robertd1981 20:35
h/wk!
dannynic 20:35 I can't help feeling that kids should be doing more with their time out
of school than homework. At least until KS4. #ukedchat
musicmind 20:35 @ianaddison YES...they say...LET US CHOOSE a topic area of

interest..then sit back and watch your world rock ! #UKEdChat
#ukedchat Here is link to the old Government guidance -
GiftedPhoenix 20:35 http://bit.ly/hgGVQe - one of the things Gove will now leave entirely
to schools
bevevans22 20:35 @ianaddison We ask children and parent about everything...answers

are regularly quite different #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:35
@Natty08 if only we were head teachers, we'd fix it all #ukedchat
dawnhallybone 20:35 children had ownership of learning and rose to challenge #ukedchat
duirng half term open ended homework on cars theme
@Creativeedu sadly no one has convinced me that homework is not
john_at_muuua 20:35
an elitist exercise. #ukedchat
DeputyMitchell 20:35 Is there anyone else out there like me who rarely sets homework? I'm
in a slightly different position as I only teach Lit/Num. #ukedchat
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pcwoessner 20:35 Some homework thoughts from @alfiekohn http://t.co/9udpHew for
#ukedchat If you haven't read his work you really should.
tas_sasso 20:35
#ukedchat what will be your hobby teachers? @ianaddison knitting? ;)
#ukedchat When my eldest was 11, he would be up till 11pm+
daibarnes 20:35 working. We wd stop him. Now in term2 at oxford. Straight As all the
way.
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:35 #ukedchat And praise be given to those who chose to complete, but
no reprimand given to those who don't..... #waitsforangryresponses
@ianaddison I feel that because I have these views I am crazy and in
Natty08 20:35
a minority at times! #ukedchat
I often send my kids on trips for homework:Meaningful, gets the
jacksloan 20:35 whole family engaging and NO MARKING! #ukedchat
http://bit.ly/fcYVeD
chris_1974 20:35 has anyone asked them if they want school??! RT @ianaddison: Has
anyone asked the children if they want homework? #ukedchat
@kennypieper yes. Now you come to mention it, for both.
fullonlearning 20:35 Autonomous challenges, long term projects explore learners' own
passions #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: Has anyone asked the children if they want
Catriona_O 20:35
homework? #ukedchat <great point!>
jessamacookie 20:35 @Natty08 #ukedchat bro had undaignosed dislexia. Hw time turned
into hours of tears and tension so he hated school more & more
or maybe that should be... 'has anyone asked children what type of
ianaddison 20:35
homework they want?' #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 20:35 @CreativeEdu nope lol #ukedchat
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat what would happen if we required kids to
marketspi 20:35 set their own homework and demonstrate they had done it - any
areas of learning?
@DeputyMitchell but your kids are blogging out of hours for the sheer
Creativeedu 20:36
joy of it no? #UKEdChat
ianaddison 20:36 @ForesterJo @tas_sasso I asked the children for 3 things they'd learnt
in school this week...they couldn't think of 1!! #ukedchat
musicmind 20:36 #UKEdChat isn't being at home 'work' sometimes....get kids to tell you
about their evening/weekend.....through story telling...
john_at_muuua 20:36 RT @shirlpj: #UKEdChat find that if my kids are stimulated in school
they come home to find out more by talking, reading, googling.
Creativeedu 20:36 RT @john_at_muuua: @Creativeedu sadly no one has convinced me

that homework is not an elitist exercise. #ukedchat
@DeputyMitchell I only set h/w for students behind in coursework
#ukedchat
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@tas_sasso @ianaddison wouldn't it b gr8 to have time with chdn
ForesterJo 20:36 sharing something they'd learnt over weekend & celebrating that?
#ukedchat
#ukedchat what would happen if we asked the kids to decide which
didactylos 20:36 learning they need to improve and negotiate how they would do this
at home?
ÔÇ£@GaryAveryICT: RT @tj007: How many parents will do their
Jokprice 20:36 childrens HW? Where is it more likely - Primary / Secondary?
#ukedchat LOADSÔÇØagree
shirlpj 20:36 #UKEdChat find that if my kids are stimulated in school they come
home to find out more by talking, reading, googling.
@bevevans22 your school sounds amazing. every bloody week.
ianaddison 20:36
#ukedchat
#ukedchat - it is really damaging when teachers pretend it is
jackieschneider 20:36 important & pretend to mark, kids pretend to do it & everyone knows
it's a con
jacksloan 20:36 @dannynic Totally agree. See my last post #ukedchat
busynessgirl 20:36 @tj007 Is that why college kids don't seem to understand how to do
homework? Are they too used to parents doing it? #ukedchat
Pompeysie 20:36 ÔÇ£@theokk: #ukedchat let's do evidence - does anyone have any
empirical evidence that hwk works?ÔÇØ how r u defining "works"?
thegreatgar 20:36 #ukedchat in the brave new world where the mobile phone is seen as
a weapon what future for digital learning in own space/time?
DeputyMitchell 20:37
@CreativeEdu Yes they do, but have never asked them to. #ukedchat
RT @jessamacookie: @Natty08 #ukedchat bro had undaignosed
jackieschneider 20:37 dislexia. Hw time turned into hours of tears and tension so he hated
school more & more
@failbettercw modeling and discussion with students. Catching a
jjash 20:37 student doing it and asking why? How do you feel as a
learner?#ukedchat
jackieschneider 20:37
@ianaddison - yes and the answer is a resounding NO! #ukedchat
@@jackieschneider I agree - if homework is set, it should then be
properly evaluated #ukedchat
RT @thegreatgar: #ukedchat homework if it's not about learning why
john_at_muuua 20:37
are you doing it?
@didactylos I think you'd be pleasantly surprised by the 'freedom'
musicmind 20:37
you give them and the responses. #UKEdChat
does it have to officialyy be "homework?" what about all the informal
Catriona_O 20:37 learning/chats/ knowledge building that can go on out of
skl?#ukedchat
@Pompeysie good point - some would say test results - I would say
theokk 20:37
chn build their capacity and potential #ukedchat
#ukedchat also believe in only setting "finish what you didn't finish in
jodieworld 20:37
class" homework - kids soon focus in class!
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@ianaddison It is a buzzing place but I think that things are maybe a
bevevans22 20:37
little different in Wales #ukedchat
thegreatgar 20:37
#ukedchat homework if it's not about learning why are you doing it?
Have found most of kids homework uninspiring and unengaging, so
colmmu 20:37
we hack it and modify #ukedchat
dannynic 20:37 often homework is given out for the sake of giving it / because its
expected. Not because it benefits the pupils #ukedchat
daibarnes 20:37 RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - it is really damaging when teachers

pretend and kids pretend & everyone knows it's a con <-- agreed
#ukedchat h/w often too much about producing something. If we
fullonlearning 20:38 value reflection, why not ask learners to do this (comment, consider,
think)
ForesterJo 20:38
@ianaddison unless singing away to blood brothers......... #ukedchat
paulstpancras 20:38 RT @jackieschneider #ukedchat - let's really push reading 4 pleasure.

Set homework for parents to read to their kids 30 mins a day to Yr 9!
Creativeedu 20:38 @markkwinder i agree. playing is vital #UKEdChat
RT @musicmind: #UKEdChat isn't being at home 'work'
shirlpj 20:38 sometimes....get kids to tell you about their evening/weekend....>
agree.
@DeputyMitchell I was exactly regular then we got some hw
Jokprice 20:38
books!#ukedchat
RT @thegreatgar: #ukedchat in the brave new world where the
didactylos 20:38 mobile phone is seen as a weapon what future for digital lrng in own
space/time?
kennypieper 20:38 every kid in the class gets the same "task" ;encourage love of learning
@daibarnes Whole family was involved, brilliant. Will try and put it on
tas_sasso 20:38
our blog. #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:38 controlled assesssment kids said they needed it as could get help off
me during it! High control invigilator #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:38 @mbrayford I think i'm the only teacher that doesn't like show and
tell 'here's a rock I found this morning' #ukedchat
@daibarnes yeah I do love whole family projects I had an audio book
tas_sasso 20:38 handed in yesterday when they were asked to write a story.
#ukedchat
bevevans22 20:39 @ianaddison Plus it's is not like a regular school - lots of staff with
different strengths (which helps and is a good thing) #ukedchat
We find that large %of pupils actively log onto vle to share further
headteacher01 20:39 learning thoughts, and use online competitive maths games
#ukedchat
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maharajmeister 20:39 RT @dannynic: I can't help feeling that kids should be doing more with
their time out of school than homework. At least until KS4. #ukedchat
@tj007 1) In a primary school, 2) most parents are more likely to do
bucharesttutor 20:39
their children's homework #ukedchat
@dannynic I agree. Setting homework because it 'has' to be set.
doc_gnome 20:39
Usually of limited educational benefit. #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:39 RT @shirlpj: #UKEdChat find that if my kids are stimulated in school
they come home to find out more by talking, reading, googling.
@DeputyMitchell I think you're going to make everyone jealous
Creativeedu 20:39
David! #UKEdChat
ForesterJo 20:39
@ianaddison @bevevans22 that's why I want to visit!!!!!! #ukedchat
familysimpson 20:39 #ukedchat hi! p2 daughter has LOADS of h/w - sometimes 2 hours per
night. it has increased in last few weeks - what do they do in class?
We send home a topic project sheet with weekly tasks. All handed in
misshbond 20:39 at end of the half term and rewarded accord. to the standard.
#ukedchat
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat what would happen if we asked the kids to
Totallywired77 20:39 decide which learning they need to improve and negotiate how they
would do this at home?
RT @daibarnes: #ukedchat When my eldest was 11, he would be up
chrisrat 20:39 till 11pm+ working. We wd stop him. Now in term2 at oxford. Straight
As all the way.
It's important to be clear about the purpose of homework e.g.
te_ach_er 20:39 improving organisation, prep. for learning, consolidating learning
#ukedchat
daibarnes 20:39
@tas_sasso Now that's a win. :) You did that somehow. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:40 RT @colmmu: Have been disheartened sometimes when daughter

says, but dad the rules say we have to do it like this #ukedchat
@bucharesttutor I think they will help but shouldn't they do so?
#ukedchat
@robertd1981 If combined with relevant & interesting problems to
mathiaspoulsen 20:40
solve, however, could be great #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:40 how much homework is appropriate? Surely too much means kids are
too tired or jaded to focus in class? #UKEdChat
RT @jacksloan: I often send my kids on trips for
HGJohn 20:40 homework:Meaningful, gets the whole family engaging and NO
MARKING! #ukedchat http://bit.ly/fcYVeD
@ianaddison @tas_sasso yea but bet they could tell you new level
ForesterJo 20:40
they'd got to on video game #ukedchat
#ukedchat is there an inherent lack on trust when it comes to h/w and
fullonlearning 20:40 requiring learners to PROVE they've done something beyond the
lesson?
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DeputyMitchell 20:40 Many of our pupils attend Mosque from 4pm - 7:30pm. They get in at
8pm have tea and go to bed. Same expectations?? #ukedchat
familysimpson 20:40 #ukedchat think there needs to be more discussion with parents
about what is appropriate homework for all ages / stages
#UKEdChat The DUCK system works well...what can you DO,
musicmind 20:40
UNDERSTAND, CREATE and KNOW ?'
@McDroll because it takes time to set, in my school they set
ianaddison 20:40 worksheets each week, and takes ages to mark. What's to like?
#ukedchat
Have been disheartened sometimes when son says, but dad the rules
colmmu 20:40
say we have to do it like this #ukedchat
jessamacookie 20:40 @Natty08 that's why I want to make sure hw is useful and every1 can
do it before I start churning it out, so gettin good tips from #ukedchat
so how many of us are high up enough in school to make changes to
ianaddison 20:41
homework? #ukedchat
@ZoeAndrewsAST I agree again, let them work hardest on things they
bluemoonjules 20:41
are interested in.... #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:41 great question @fullonlearning! #UKEdChat
@mbrayford @tas_sasso @ianaddison I would love show and tell to
ForesterJo 20:41 be given greater significance - might get know kids better
too...#ukedchat
#ukedchat How many of us did our hw properly at sch? Did it extend
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:41 our learning? Is it dependent on your own parents' abilities and
support?
@eyebeams my daughter being happy and free to enjoy the culture
john_at_muuua 20:41
she is in #ukedchat
RT @thegreatgar: #ukedchat homework if it's not about learning why
Woff70 20:41
are you doing it?
tj007 20:41 Anyone used the 'fisch flip' for a HW? Learn something from a video
at home, then discuss/apply in lesson. #ukedchat
#ukedchat Homework for primary schools seems to be a recent
cleverfiend 20:41 phenomenon - we never did it. Even my 5 year old niece is set it.
League tables?
RT @fullonlearning: #ukedchat is there an inherent lack on trust when
Creativeedu 20:41 it comes to h/w and requiring learners to PROVE they've done
something beyond the lesson?
@eyebeams What is that? Yu have to give something more than that
daibarnes 20:41
don't you? Otherwise it's just 'life'. #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:41 RT @fullonlearning: @kennypieper I'm with you on that. Sometimes

h/w makes an unwelcome contribution to the big divide #ukedchat
familysimpson 20:41 #ukedchat personally i set certificate classes homework based on past
papers - specially chosen related questions - not just for sake of it
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musicmind 20:41 @CreativeEdu I know several children who dont't attend school as
they have had TOO MUCH H/W and need to sleep.....! #UKEdChat
colmmu 20:41 Balancing act of conforming but also wanting to make it live a bit
more and not an activity done at dining table #ukedchat
jackieschneider 20:41 #ukedchat - my hobby is to try a new challenge each month - eg learn
to crochet, visit highgate cemetery, learn to swim under water
fullonlearning 20:41 @kennypieper I'm with you on that. Sometimes h/w makes an
unwelcome contribution to the big divide #ukedchat
Research share kids, parents, us. Evaluate research in lesson use
JOHNSAYERS 20:41 higher order skills on it. Free up my time to develop strategies
#ukedchat
carolinebreyley 20:41 @Natty08 ~Please can I join your minority? #ukedchat
#ukedchat good point , every time I learn - do I always have to prove
thegreatgar 20:41
it - for whose benefit ??
@ianaddison @mbrayford that rock may well have great significance
ForesterJo 20:42
to that child!!! #ukedchat
@DeputyMitchell Other commitments was a biggie with our kids too.
MrColleyStMarys 20:42 Rewrote policy to focus on projects but impact limited so far
#ukedchat
@ianaddison maybe. I chair ML's forum. in maths I still think it has a
chris_1974 20:42
place though. #ukedchat
fullonlearning 20:42 @AnElder thanks, mum. #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:42 @ianaddison all of us? No? #ukedchat?
#ukedchat colleague at school (2ndry) uses #quia to set online
familysimpson 20:42 homework tasks - fine if you have whole class able to be online. self
marks.
#ukedchat From a parental perspective homeworkis good in the
GiftedPhoenix 20:42 sense that it diverts attention from Facebook and Playstation for a
while
janwebb21 20:42 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat
I'm trying to develop a whole-year h/w project that will allow students
mwclarkson_pub 20:42 to explore my subject in a much more independent way #ukedchat
(1/2)
digitalmaverick 20:42 RT @ethinking: #ukedchat. My boy will not do homework, he will not
have a reading diary, I am his teachers worst nightmare
@McDroll it's what my school do. i'm ppa so don't set anything
ianaddison 20:42
#ukedchat
bayhouselearns 20:42 every kid in the class gets the same "task" ;encourage love of learning
janwebb21 20:42 @misshbond I love setting extended hw tasks - not sure parents will
love me when I send kids home to make a giant object!!! #ukedchat
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jackieschneider 20:42 RT @dannynic: often homework is given out for the sake of giving it /
because its expected. Not because it benefits the pupils #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:42 @carolinebreyley @Natty08 I'm in there too! #ukedchat
@ethinking and I am talking about differences of attitude within a
janwebb21 20:43
family not within a class!!!! #ukedchat
#ukedchat @ForesterJo @ianaddison true, and I do try and get on the
tas_sasso 20:43 same level with them on gaming. But then I always 'show and tell'
with
@didactylos Happy, Safe, Secure... These shoot through my brain
DeputyMitchell 20:43 when I think about setting h/work. It's do when you & if you can
#ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:43 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat
#ukedchat KS1 at my school have more homework than my Year9
Whorwe 20:43
daughter....
@Creativeedu good question, some pupils at my school have long
doc_gnome 20:43 days (travel quite far). Too tired by the time they get home.
#ukedchat
As a kid I got so stressed out about Maths homewk, used to be in
failbettercw 20:43 tears every week. I worry about that with some students now
#ukedchat
ldm90 20:43 We've homework diaries where we set half terms worth of homework
in advance - 1 activity weekly - for chn to do with parents #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:43 #ukedchat big national survey it! Schools who set and schools who
don't and correlate CVA scores. A statistical take on do it or don't do it
#ukedchat surely inspiring and well thought lessons will result in
markrushworth 20:43 further exploration of subject? Save maybe long division. Use VLE
more.
janwebb21 20:43 @ethinking son is like that!!! - ask @HeatherT26 !!!!! so why do some
kids get themselves organised re hw and others don't! #ukedchat
tj007 20:43 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat
te_ach_er 20:43 @headteacher01 I think if you can incorporate ICT into homework it's
always participated in enthusiastically #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:43 great homework for you all... check out @fullonlearning's TEDucation
project http://teducation.posterous.com #UKEdChat
@chris_1974 is it different in secondary to primary though?
ianaddison 20:43
#ukedchat
@ianaddison Surely that's a whole (lead) staff discussion area? We
bevevans22 20:43
discuss, brainstorm ideas etc. #ukedchat
@ianaddison The trick, I guess, is to find out what it should be
te_ach_er 20:44
changed to? Will everyone be happy? #ukedchat
headteacher01 20:44 @te_ach_er Especially if it is focussed on extending an outstanding

lesson so engagements flows into the home! #ukedchat
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@giftedphoenix #ukedchat homework as social regulator..... as
didactylos 20:44 punishment. As an English teacher had battles over writing as
punishments!
@ldm90 there's a idea. mass pre-set homework. every child must
john_at_muuua 20:44
do................... Gove would love it! #ukedchat
#ukedchat school homework policy is fertile ground for school
GiftedPhoenix 20:44
councils and student voice
LeeMarkDavies 20:44 when I told a group to 'do what you like' learning for a week.......was
AMAZING
@CreativeEdu Trust me....it might be CRAZY but it
musicmind 20:44
happens....especially in Secondary ! #UKEdChat
@te_ach_er yes, computer is used for all subjects!! #ukedchat
chris_1974 20:44 @ianaddison i've absolutely no doubt it is. But my kids don't resent
their work. Quite open ended usually. #ukedchat
familysimpson 20:44 RT @totallywired77 #ukedchat "and this piece of homework will help
learning because........?" if you can't answer it, don't set it! <exactly
Surely parents have enough to do out of school,holidays are just as
Jokprice 20:44
important family bonding #ukedchat
@HeatherT28 are you using tweetdeck or similar? you might like to
janwebb21 20:45
follow #ukedchat
@tj007 do you have more info / link - like sound of watching video
ForesterJo 20:45
#ukedchat
@doc_gnome absolutely - What can I give them that will take up the
dannynic 20:45
allotted "30 mins" or whatever... #ukedchat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:45 @Jokprice #ukedchat Completely agree with this! Time as a family is
so limited these days, don't want it taken up doing school work!
@didactylos agreed. I was once asked for "pages of boring sums" for a
chris_1974 20:45
kid in detention. I refused. #ukedchat
mkwoods77 20:45 @reallara good shout #ukedchat
chrisrat 20:45 @bevevans22 Jet did her pres, went really well. Added thinking hats
in for the parents which worked really well! Will send it on #ukedchat
@doc_gnome that was my prob. I left home at 7am, got home at 7pm
Creativeedu 20:45 would be 6pm but was so often held back for not having done HW!
#UKEdChat
mkwoods77 20:45 @failbettercw yeah we had same prob. #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:45 @failbettercw . Learning logs projects have involved making maths
games and finding real life links with maths #ukedchat - makes it fun
Totallywired77 20:45 ÔÇ£@ianaddison: so how many of us are high up enough in school to

make changes to homework? #ukedchatÔÇØ good point!
#ukedchat my s3 class have homework topic booklets ONLY because
familysimpson 20:45 previous years reflected that they wanted paper notes to revise.
worked well
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ForesterJo 20:45 @didactylos @deputymitchell we have the same with some of ours!
Equally some chdn in church for large parts of w/end #ukedchat
@Jokprice @ZoeAndrewsAST #ukedchat I agree too - but try to set
janwebb21 20:46 hw at times that really needs parental involvement - whether a game
or make
@ClaireJoanne35 they shouldn't really do so but they may assist them
#ukedchat
@KirstieMAllsopp would be interested in this week's #ukedchat i'm
familysimpson 20:46
sure #homework
mathiaspoulsen 20:46 Would encourage everybody interested in education to follow

#UKEdChat right now; great exchange of thoughts & ideas!
@ldm90 only works if diaries are filled in regularly tho - doesn't
always happen #ukedchat
RT @GiftedPhoenix: #ukedchat school homework policy is fertile
doingdemocracy 20:46
ground for school councils and student voice
fullonlearning 20:46 @failbettercw I was the same. Maths exercise book regularly
projected across the room in pure frustration. #ukedchat
RT @musicmind: #UKEdChat Best H/W I ever had was....."Go out and
ianaddison 20:47 research Chocolate' our class was buzzing. so many cross curr linke
etc...
Creativeedu 20:47 @musicmind probably the same kids who'll wind up as city traders
working 20 hour days. Not the life for me! #UKEdChat
Impressed by #ukedchat & thinking - is there a place to get overview
mathiaspoulsen 20:47
of # used for these realtime discussions?
ForesterJo 20:47 @ianaddison would agree just saying think school day so crammed
with targets etc v little time 4 kids themselves if not careful #ukedchat
#ukedchat is great homework for teachers! What is it that makes us
headteacher01 20:47
so keen to extend our learning into home?
@janwebb21 what if there is no one parentally responsible?
john_at_muuua 20:47
#ukedchat
chris_1974 20:47 @marketspi usually is. :-( #ukedchat
@chris_1974 AAAARGH! Such value colleagues show about our
didactylos 20:47
work.... #ukedchat
doc_gnome 20:47 @cleverfiend maybe the parents need educating about homework
rather than us capitulating to their expectations? #ukedchat
RT @GiftedPhoenix: @didactylos #ukedchat Not exactly a punishment
Catriona_O 20:47
- more a change being as good as a rest!
@bucharesttutor there's a time and place for parents to be
janwebb21 20:47
involved!!! #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:47 @chrisrat Cool - well done Jet! Thinking hats too? Fantastic. We do
Habits of Mind here http://bit.ly/6vq6TU #ukedchat
@didactylos #ukedchat Not exactly a punishment - more a change
GiftedPhoenix 20:47
being as good as a rest!
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thegreatgar 20:47 #ukedchat bad homework makes kids view learning as drudgery ,
series of disconnected tasks to be completed as rapidly as possible
@Jokprice I wonder if a parent helping a child with homework might
te_ach_er 20:47 be one of the few opportunities for bonding in some
families?#ukedchat
#UKEdChat Best H/W I ever had was....."Go out and research
musicmind 20:47 Chocolate'....waw our class was buzzing....so many cross curr linke
etc...
ldm90 20:47 New HW diaries have meant children+parents attitude is changing-

doesnt have to be marked weekly either! phew #ukedchat
#ukedchat maths HW getting bad press tonight! Or is that just maths
marketspi 20:47
full stop?!
misshbond 20:48 Still know teachers who give h/w just for the sake of it. Makes me so
cross. If there's no learning, there's no point! #ukedchat
RT @te_ach_er: @Jokprice I wonder if a parent helping a child with
headteacher01 20:48 homework might be one of the few opportunities for bonding in some
families?#ukedchat
@headteacher01 will they remembe (or just my class)r? Another
mkwoods77 20:48
reason to get kids blogging maybe?? #ukedchat
So where ds learning take place Home or School? r they different
theokk 20:48 kinds of learning? Which is more important space or activity?
#ukedchat
familysimpson 20:48 #ukedchat including space for notes and target setting might be more
effective than rote for some - reflection is what homework is for.
chris_1974 20:48 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat also works 4 meetings!"and ths

meeting will help learning b/c........?" if U cnt answer it, dont have it!
@janwebb21 some CNN don't have the opportunity or support
Jokprice 20:48
though! #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: RT @musicmind: #UKEdChat Best H/W I ever had
bevevans22 20:48 was....."Go out and research Chocolate' our class was buzzing<cool
topic
tj007 20:48 @ForesterJo 'fisch flip' http://bit.ly/axhbLo #ukedchat
@te_ach_er I used to enjoy reading with my daughters #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:48
we assume parental involvement is a good thing? #ukedchat
Totallywired77 20:48 #ukedchat also works for meetings!
saraloisstanley 20:48 #ukedchat my nursery help at home if you & yr child want suggestion
is tied in with underground house theme - cut holes out of paper
mathiaspoulsen 20:49 Have seen students work like crazy with H/W because it seemed
relevant to them, e.g. entire process of game dev #UKEdChat
@mkwoods77 @daibarnes @ianaddison #ukedchat we offer one but
genkijen 20:49
uptake is low
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@ClaireJoanne35 so many English teachers learned read before they
john_at_muuua 20:49
went to school. #ukedchat
Another question for all, should calculators be used while doing most
of the Math lessons #ukedchat
#UKEdChat Schools in New York ran a H/W project on Chocolate
musicmind 20:49 which lead to a whole curriculum being written on it..every subject
covered !
purer_ethics 20:49 @ianaddison yes and then they still don't do it #ukedchat
@little_mavis absolutely. it just becomes a waste of everyones time.
dannynic 20:49
Pointless #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua it certainly depends on where you are @Jokprice
janwebb21 20:49 #ukedchat we have generally supportive parents so I think I should
make most
@headteacher01 but we choose to do this! Learners in schools don't!
Catriona_O 20:49 They often get told and it's not always so interesting 4them!
!#ukedchat
chrisrat 20:50 @bevevans22 looks good! Was quite impressed she got parents to
think about learning logs through thinking hats. #ukedchat
RT @JOHNSAYERS: At end can we vote yes or no collate results?
phillengthorn 20:50
#ukedchat
@ForesterJo we create the cramming, not a natural order of things,
theokk 20:50
can be changed #UKedchat
jackieschneider 20:50 #ukedchat - reading for pleasure, gardening, making videos, blogging
football, brownies, cubs, walking dog, swimming, practicing recorder
@john_at_muuua back to someone mentioning more preasure
mkwoods77 20:50 earlier!sum parents(thinking maths) can confuse kids with diff
strategies #ukedchat
RT @JOHNSAYERS: At end can we vote yes or no collate results?
#ukedchat
saraloisstanley 20:50 #ukedchat no expectation that work is done but many parents ask
how they can help so I feel I have to give play & skill based ideas
ForesterJo 20:50 @ianaddison @tas_sasso think thats problem 2 easily chdn just on an
assembly line #ukedchat I know I want to know the kids!!!
@Jokprice absolutely - I'm lucky/the kids are lucky that I can do that in
janwebb21 20:50
current context #ukedchat
passthechablis 20:50 if homework given requires writing, surely there should always be an
option to record ideas by alternative means? #ukedchat
RT @misshbond: If there's no learning, there's no point! #ukedchat <---
phillengthorn 20:50
----- good shout
richardsw16 20:50
#ukedchat Want to start learning logs for KS5. Anyone else doing this?
familysimpson 20:50
@john_at_muuua it is if the parents know the material #ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:50 @john_at_muuua @Jokprice #ukedchat of getting them involved!
but have set different hw when there have been issues like that
JOHNSAYERS 20:50 At end can we vote yes or no collate results? #ukedchat
@familysimpson absolutely #ukedchat - art club/homework club - so
janwebb21 20:51
many opportunities!
john_at_muuua 20:51 @mkwoods77 or... 'we've been told to teach you numberlines' says
the maths teacher to my child #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:51 #poll Should homework be scrapped in primary? #ukedchat This is

school setting tasks for children. http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj
ForesterJo 20:51 @tas_sasso @ianaddison that's another reason why I love forest
school and free play time - really SEE the chdn #ukedchat
@markrushworth thats my plan #ukedchat already children are
genkijen 20:51
responding to challenges set on platform ;-)
@genkijen @daibarnes @ianaddison our 'homework' clubs (called log
bevevans22 20:51 study sessions) are packed! #ukedchat They are quite hands on
though...
@Jokprice @john_at_muuua #ukedchat and had already been
janwebb21 20:51
starting to think of ideas!
ldm90 20:51 @cleverfiend i always had homework at primary school - spellings,

times tables, number bonds, reading diaries...loved it! #ukedchat
#ukedchat Even when i was at sch, remember shock at finding the
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:51 'swots' had actually had parents complete h/w for them to stay top of
class!
@ethinking if you are his teachers worst nightmare then they ate
marykelly99 20:51
doing well LOL #ukedchat.
RT @passthechablis: if homework given requires writing, surely there
fullonlearning 20:51 should always be an option to record ideas by alternative means?
#ukedchat
RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - reading for pleasure, gardening,
robertd1981 20:51 making videos, blogging football, brownies, cubs, walking dog,
swimming, practicing recorder
@Jokprice @john_at_muuua #ukedchat in fact, when I started to set
janwebb21 20:51 the scene for this hw, they remembered displays done by previous
classes
MrColleyStMarys 20:51 Aren't teachers culpable for setting boring, irrelevant hwk then not
marking it? Think #ukedchat ers are a minority sometimes.
@misshbond #ukedchat most kids come in by bus so was a
janwebb21 20:52
challenge!!!
@janwebb21 @Jokprice @ZoeAndrewsAST #ukedchat daughter has
familysimpson 20:52 two maths games as h/w this week -destroys the benefit when you
rush through them
@Catriona_O In my experience, many primary kids get MORE h/w
fraserboyd 20:52
that early secondary #ukedchat
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@janwebb21 our parents idea of support would be do it for them lol!
Jokprice 20:52
#ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: #poll Should homework be scrapped in primary?
cleverfiend 20:52 #ukedchat This is school setting tasks for children.
http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:52 #ukedchat I set tasks that are open ended and interesting as much as
possible. Want kids to feel like they've missed out if not taken part!
#ukedchat Tomorrow's homework task could be to come up with
GiftedPhoenix 20:52
their ideal homework policy and justify it
ianaddison 20:52 #poll Should homework be scrapped in secondary? #ukedchat This is

school setting tasks for children. http://twtpoll.com/0iu5ru
terr1_leigh 20:52 as a trainee I have to set homework in order to achieve a standard..

do not necessarily agree with setting homework in primary #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:52 @misshbond @misshbond #ukedchat the giant toast rack was the
funniest - I ended up with silver paint all over me as it was still wet!!!!!
@bevevans22 she uses hats and keys a lot, kids pick it up so quickly
chrisrat 20:52
#ukedchat
@Jokprice #ukedchat homework i set if out mon in fri. not at wknd or
genkijen 20:52
during hols
@headteacher01 it's because teaching never stops, we all walk round
philwaud 20:52
looking for learning opportunities! #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:52 @tj007 thanks very muchly #ukedchat :0)
RT @ianaddison: #poll Should homework be scrapped in primary?
chris_1974 20:52 #ukedchat This is school setting tasks for children.
http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj
familysimpson 20:53 @janwebb21 #ukedchat i like the idea of creating as a homework

task, using skills learned in class - much more like #play
janwebb21 20:53 @familysimpson I absolutely agree - and having 3 kids myself, I know
what it is like when you get to listen to 3rd one read #ukedchat
RT @marketspi: #ukedchat remember that as teachers we were
chris_1974 20:53 successful in education & usually liked school & HW. We are the
minority!
@misshbond maybe they set it because they're told they have to by
doc_gnome 20:53
SMT? #ukedchat
marketspi 20:53 #ukedchat remember that as teachers we were successful in

education & usually liked school & HW. We are the minority!
ianaddison 20:53
@JOHNSAYERS just set some polls. will rt at the end #ukedchat
#ukedchat compared with many other countries our typical
GiftedPhoenix 20:54 homework load is light - compare with PISA leaders like HK, Shanghai,
Korea
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I always make sure the first 10 mins on a Monday is spent sharing our
tas_sasso 20:54
weekends exploits. #ukedchat
misshbond 20:54 @doc_gnome Absolutely. Such a shame people can't put their heads
together to find a way of making it more meaningful. #ukedchat
genkijen 20:54 #ukedchat i am going to poll my class on this on the vle.
@headteacher01 learning shouldn't stop wherever you are
#ukedchat
I s/times set 'talk homeworks' -chn talk with their families about
learnbuzz 20:54 something we're doing in class & then they post comments to vle
#ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:54 @theokk yes if supportive SLT. why I do Forest School!!! Crammed full
of sunshine, rain, space, nature, play, fun and Learning #ukedchat
@janwebb21 parents will never help children of the homework
bucharesttutor 20:54 involve thinking and applying things what kids learn at school
#ukedchat
@familysimpson in a night - an d then start to fall asleep!!!!!
janwebb21 20:54
#ukedchat
RT @doc_gnome: @misshbond maybe they set it because they're told
phillengthorn 20:54
they have to by SMT? #ukedchat
camaxwell 20:54 @robertd1981 #ukedchat or like XBOX achievements? Unlock fun

features of a website with more academic achievements
@mkwoods77 Blogging in class to give trigger for discussions at home
headteacher01 20:55
is a superb tool #ukedchat
Obviously I miss out the part about strobe lights and some serious
tas_sasso 20:55
shape throwing. :) #ukedchat
@janwebb21 #ukedchat - ouch, and it seems less fun too although
familysimpson 20:55
stories are quite entertaining #biffchipkipper
musicmind 20:55
@Arakwai Still doing the Homework on that one ! #UKEdChat
Catriona_O 20:55
@GiftedPhoenix I was thinking that. In europe too #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:55 Should homework be scrapped? Primary: http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj

Secondary: http://twtpoll.com/0iu5ru #ukedchat
Arakwai 20:55 #Ukedchat Just got in from parents' evening - looks like I've missed an
interesting discussion :-) Is there a consensus for or against? ;-)
@bevevans22 There is the rub Bev. Make it buzzy to attract the
daibarnes 20:55
masses. It's got to be stone in pond. #ukedchat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:55 @marketspi Really? #ukedchat I think a lot of teachers didn't like sch
and go into teaching to make it better! I didn't like at all or h/w!
janwebb21 20:55 @bucharesttutor I think that is so true! but it isn't always about the
application - sometimes its the opportunity to share time.. #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:56
@tas_sasso do you have video footage for us to judge?? #ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:56 @familysimpson #ukedchat hearing the same #biffchipkipper story
for 3rd time was - how can I say - very weariness inducing!
bevevans22 20:56 @daibarnes We are lucky that we have a team of support staff who
are willing to help out with crafty bits during club sessions #ukedchat
@marketspi I hated school - became teacher so I could inspire
misshbond 20:56 children to enjoy learning and give them better experiences than me
#ukedchat
I think we all agree self-learning, project-based stuff and
ianaddison 20:56
reading/maths support at home is a good thing? #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:56 @GiftedPhoenix what about Finland? #ukedchat
@ZoeAndrewsAST you took the tweet right out of my finger tips!
#ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:56 It's like a lesson. If you're bothered to make it relevant, interesting
and fun then engagement & takeup will rise. #ukedchat
oh and if anyone wants to set a better choice than yes/no, feel free
ianaddison 20:56
#ukedchat
@tas_sasso haha I don't think I could do that with my yr 11s!
marketspi 20:56
#ukedchat
Totallywired77 20:57 successful in education & usually liked school & HW. We are the
minority!
#ukedchat twitter hw! Teacher tweets h/w, students tweet each
JOHNSAYERS 20:57 other, them tweet finished h/w? Use Twiducate for this works
brilliantlyÔÇØ did
Right, 3 minutes left. What homework are you going to set next
ianaddison 20:57
week? #ukedchat pls share the topic you're doing too
daibarnes 20:57 @ianaddison In the main, yes I agree. #ukedchat
RT @MrColleyStMarys: It's like a lesson. If you're bothered 2 make it
tj007 20:57 rel, interesting and fun then engagement & takeup will rise.
#ukedchat
@bucharesttutor and it depends on how open ended you make the
janwebb21 20:57
hw task #ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @familysimpson #ukedchat hearing the same
fraserboyd 20:57 #biffchipkipper story for 3rd time was - how can I say - very weariness
inducing!
ClaireJoanne35 20:57 @ianaddison yes, I agree :-) #ukedchat
shirlpj 20:57 RT @ianaddison: Should homework be scrapped? Primary:

http://bit.ly/esxw54 Secondary: http://bit.ly/dYIDCZ #ukedchat
doc_gnome 20:57 RT @ianaddison: #poll Should homework be scrapped? #ukedchat

This is school setting tasks for children. http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj
familysimpson 20:57 @ianaddison #ukedchat firm NO on both counts but should be well
thought through not just the word the pupil didn't finish in class...
GiftedPhoenix 20:58 @squiggle7 #ukedchat Don't know, sorry
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#ukedchat Media studies portfolio Y9 - create a pop band and market
phillengthorn 20:58
it
jjash 20:58 @ianaddison #poll this is just as bad as compulsory homework. Shd be
flexible and not for homework sake-authentic #ukedchat
richardsw16 20:58 RT @passthechablis: if hw requires writing, shld be option 2 record

ideas by alternative means? #ukedchat < yes - it's still learning
@marketspi #ukedchat marking the same homework you did as a
familysimpson 20:58
child!! #perpetualcircle
@janwebb21 @bucharesttutor @familysimpson #ukedchat
ZoeAndrewsAST 20:58 Agree.Think more valid h/w time could be-sit down with an adult and
talk about your day!
janwebb21 20:58 RT @john_at_muuua: @familysimpson give the child time to think

and time to be. Sounds like hippy crap, but It works for me. #ukedchat
didactylos 20:58 at end of #ukedchat my feeling is that traditional homework has been
consigned bin but we are all interested in learning outside of school
musicmind 20:58
#UKEdChat Homework topic for next week....is......."MAGIC" ...
@familysimpson give the child time to think and time to be. Sounds
john_at_muuua 20:58
like hippy crap, but It works for me. #ukedchat
@fraserboyd @familysimpson #ukedchat #biffchipkipper especially
janwebb21 20:58
in less than 4 years!!!
RT @ZoeAndrewsAST: #ukedchat I set tasks that are open ended and
Biolady99 20:58 interesting as much as possible. Want kids to feel like they've missed
out if not taken part!
fraserboyd 20:58 @ianaddison Probably going to get my P7s to do some taking of

photos of bad grammar on signs with their mobile phones #ukedchat
@Catriona_O #ukedchat In the East it fits with the Confucian ideal
GiftedPhoenix 20:58
that effort and hard work bring results
genkijen 20:58 @ianaddison #ukedchat yes. i think there will always be some that
won't do it , but those that enjoy it should be given choices ;-)
ianaddison 20:58
@Totallywired77 try hosting, i have to type very quickly! #ukedchat
@bevevans22 Hands on. Muck in. Like the whole family doing one
daibarnes 20:58
child's homework. Invaluable. #ukedchat
mbrayford 20:59 #ukedchat Will be setting research to find out about Highwaymen,
Mathletics and Ed City tasks that are differentiated.
@ianaddison I'm setting Maths based challenges that involved using
bevevans22 20:59
ICT and real life maths #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:59 @Julian3576 homework I suspect! #ukedchat
Might use linoit.com to get ideas on future tech from my Y9. A 'cool
wall' perhaps. #ukedchat
@GiftedPhoenix I think in Europe it fits in with the idea of rehearsing
Catriona_O 20:59
lots of facts!#ukedchat
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familysimpson 20:59 @janwebb21 #ukedchat weary of #themagickey !? :-O
#ukedchat whereas i may try and think about being creative with my
chris_1974 20:59
y7 / y9, of which i teach relatively little.
john_at_muuua 20:59 @janwebb21 'generally supportive parents'. that's the problem. How
do we know? How can the child judge? #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua I even tell parents in the summer term that they
janwebb21 20:59
should be out playing! #ukedchat
RT @misshbond: I hated school - became teacher so I could inspire ch
ianaddison 20:59 to enjoy learning and give them better experiences than me
#ukedchat
@janwebb21 @familysimpson agreed but this can always work there
bucharesttutor 20:59 are more practical ideas involved or asking life to be imaginative
#ukedchat
marketspi 20:59 @misshbond #ukedchat I hated my subject! But we still "survived"

school, liking it or not? Lots of kids won't stay past 16.
#UKEdChat or...maybe even 'Cabinet of Curiosity'''inspired by
musicmind 20:59
Matthew McFall
@ianaddison Reading only if choice of text - even a comic is fine it's
about Reading and must engage #ukedchat
Julian3576 20:59 @janwebb21 Hi Jan, hope the spring term has started well... Just
wondering what the #ukedchat topic was tonight?
#ukedchat Y10-Y13 will continue to get focussed exam questions, and
chris_1974 20:59
I make *no* apologies for that. #mathchat
doc_gnome 20:59 @Totallywired77 I like the idea of using twitter in homework; making
the process more collaborative and interactive. #ukedchat
Catriona_O 21:00
@ianaddison well done - thanks for hosting. Good chat #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua talking that is one of the most improtant bits!
janwebb21 21:00
#ukedchat
musicmind 21:00 @ianaddison Thanks to you and all for an eventful and spiritual
evening of H/W discussion...learnt a lot. #UKEdChat
chris_1974 21:00 @familysimpson @janwebb21 #ukedchat #themagickey with 3rd

daughter doing these, I still think there are far worse than these!!
Thanks again 4 kind responses to my blog. If any #Ukedchat tweeps
Arakwai 21:00 are interested, my thoughts on #Gove #EBacc & my Yr9's
http://j.mp/fkT51I
daibarnes 21:00 @ianaddison #ukedchat Thanks Ian. Time to breath now.
WolvesTeach 21:00 I send spellings (also practiced daily at school), number facts (mental
recall stuff), and tables practice which children ask for #ukedchat
familysimpson 21:00 @john_at_muuua #ukedchat very poetic! but right - two hours h/w is
not giving them time to think = production line of ink zombies
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@ianaddison thanks for hosting #ukedchat Ian ... now to give it some
theokk 21:00
more thought...
@john_at_muuua does the child need to judge their parents?
janwebb21 21:00 certainly not at primary - if they will join in and it gets them ....
#ukedchat
owexelstein 21:00 @camaxwell @robertd1981 have you watched @gzicherm on

YouTube that would be the way to go with homework #ukedchat
mbrayford 21:00
#ukedchat Also distributing usernames and passwords for storybird
mathiaspoulsen 21:00 Would love to see something similar to #UKEdChat e.g. #DKEdChat,
but would DK have enough educators on Twitter?
ZoeAndrewsAST 21:00 @fullonlearning #ukedchat Wonder if it's just a 'Zoe' thing. Was told
on my 1st day of uni regist, oh dear, Zoe's are always trouble......
@janwebb21 yes. homework for parents. They're the one's doing it
john_at_muuua 21:00
anyway. #ukedchat
ianaddison 21:00 @ianaddison: Should homework be scrapped?? Primary:

http://bit.ly/esxw54 Secondary: http://bit.ly/dYIDCZ #ukedchat
susanbanister 21:00
Sorry to miss #ukedchat tonight. I have had other stuff to do
te_ach_er 21:00 @ianaddison Our theme is 'a century of change,' homework is talking
to parents and finding out about their school experiences #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 21:00 Coursework - BTEC Business #ukedchat
@ianaddison Definitely. It's the attitude towards it and tasks set that
misshbond 21:00
need changing in most cases #ukedchat
@GiftedPhoenix @squiggle7 well they have one of fewest hours in
squiggle7 21:00 education, don't do things like hw yet rank very highly on PISA
#ukedchat
Right...I make that 9pm, feel free to carry on chatting, but my work
ianaddison 21:00
here is done #ukedchat
bevevans22 21:01 @daibarnes Exactly. Just as it should be #ukedchat
GiftedPhoenix 21:01 @squiggle7 #ukedchat I suppose the question is whether the lack of
homework is part of the reason for their success?
RT @bucharesttutor: @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21
janwebb21 21:01 @familysimpson guess parent finding time for the child itself is a
homework for the parent lol #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 21:01 @janwebb21 exactly. the child is the worst judge. What of the one
who does the h/w DESPITE his/her parents? #ukedchat
@ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21 @bucharesttutor #ukedchat that's
familysimpson 21:01 my favourite type of h/w when pupils asked to speak to their family &
gather info
@Nevagonnabslim i don't get paid for this...doing it for the love
ianaddison 21:01
#ukedchat
marketspi 21:01 @ianaddison thankyouuuuu! #ukedchat
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@ianaddison Well done on your fabulous hosting of tonight's
bevevans22 21:01 #ukedchat Next week it's me - start voting now:
http://twtpoll.com/yt3ubs
@ZoeAndrewsAST rotfl! That's outstanding! Too much life in us, that's
the problem, I reckon. #ukedchat
@chris_1974 agreed but I think I could recite some off by heart!!!!
janwebb21 21:01
#ukedchat #themagickey
@ianaddison Great #ukedchat Ian, thanks very much for organising
robertd1981 21:01
and hosting it,
bucharesttutor 21:01 @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21 @familysimpson guess parent finding

time for the child itself is a homework for the parent lol #ukedchat
hope you all had fun, quick plug...go and add yourself to
ianaddison 21:01
http://bit.ly/teachmap #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 21:01
@ianaddison has everyone completed poll? Interested? #ukedchat
ForesterJo 21:01 @ianaddison we are looking at story telling - wd like to know parents
fav story as child and if can retail it to their child - h/w #ukedchat
@janwebb21 we could rather set some homework which could be
bucharesttutor 21:02 equally tasking to the parent ad challenging it would be for the child
#ukedchat
RT @familysimpson: @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21

janwebb21 21:02
@bucharesttutor #ukedchat that's my favourite type of h/w when
pupils asked to speak to their family & gather info
inspired RT @Sundayteatime: Email me an example of real life use of
chris_1974 21:02
differentiation (AS Maths) #ukedchat
@bucharesttutor and not so funny but that is part of what I love to
janwebb21 21:02
see happening with extended tasks #ukedchat
New reading project launched today -
lordlangley73 21:02
http://lit2011.primaryblogger.co.uk #ukedchat
twiducate 21:02 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat
musicmind 21:02 @karencymru Looking forward...we can eat cakes and listen surely !!!!
LOL Women multitask very well. !!LOL #UKEdChat
chris_1974 21:02
@ianaddison well done ian! bit frantic at times tonight. #ukedchat
@Catriona_O So challenge is to put choice in what they do, and make
headteacher01 21:02
it irisistable! #ukedchat
Email me an example of real life use of differentiation (AS Maths)
Sundayteatime 21:02
#ukedchat
Next week, the amazing @bevevans22 is hosting #ukedchat...go and
ianaddison 21:02
vote http://twtpoll.com/yt3ubs
janwebb21 21:03 @bucharesttutor absolutely - it's how you word the task that can
generate the conversation between pupil/parent #ukedchat
@ianaddison Meant retell their FAV story to kids not retail story!!!!
ForesterJo 21:03
#ukedchat
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@ianaddison hw year 7s create blog. Marked by skills it demonstrates.
JOHNSAYERS 21:03 Pupils can work as a team whole class and on own separately
#ukedchat
Here's the learning logs presentation link again for those interested :
bevevans22 21:03
http://bit.ly/f8lmRE #ukedchat
squiggle7 21:03 @GiftedPhoenix but then it suggests that the far east model of lots of
homework is not necessarily the best way #ukedchat
carolinebreyley 21:03 @ianaddison Thanks for hosting - trying to multitask and missed loads
but looking forward to achive - great #ukedchat
familysimpson 21:03 @eyebeams @john_at_muuua #ukedchat ... by rote!
@eyebeams @john_at_muuua #ukedchat i know that i personally
familysimpson 21:03 need time (years at times) to grasp the importance of a concept, but i
won't ...
janwebb21 21:03 @Julian3576 or sailing even!!! #ukedchat
@john_at_muuua Oh, you know!!!! of course you can tell the ones
janwebb21 21:03
who are doing despite!!! #ukedchat
@janwebb21 Will duck out then, caught your tweet 'I even tell
Julian3576 21:03 parents in the summer they should be out playing' I totally agree!
#ukedchat
genkijen 21:03 @ianaddison Thankyou , twas my first #ukedchat and i enjoyed it .

Now adding a homework survey to learning platform :-)
ianaddison 21:04 @Nevagonnabslim to host, speak to @colport and then just type
VERY quickly and reply to lots of people! #ukedchat
RT @bucharesttutor: @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21
ForesterJo 21:04 @familysimpson guess parent finding time for the child itself is a
homework for the parent lol #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 21:04 @janwebb21 how? #ukedchat
RT @robertd1981: @ianaddison Great #ukedchat Ian, thanks very
ForesterJo 21:04
much for organising and hosting it,
Now feel like I've come out of whirlwind vortex that is #ukedchat.
marketspi 21:05
Time for bed!
janwebb21 21:05 @john_at_muuua younger ones tell you!!! #ukedchat
@bucharesttutor @zoeandrewsast @janwebb21 #ukedchat agreed!
familysimpson 21:05
Need to give parents targets! ;-)
@bucharesttutor not just overseeing - being INVOLVED!!!! ACTIVELY!
janwebb21 21:05
#ukedchat
Thanks for good session folks, welcome to NCPS staff who are starting
headteacher01 21:05
to understand why I #ukedchat each week
ianaddison 21:05 @Totallywired77 you can tweet @colport with suggested topics or
host it and suggest a few for the public to vote #ukedchat
@janwebb21 agreed, so course we need parents to get involved by
bucharesttutor 21:05 spending time with the child with his homework and overseeing them
#ukedchat
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familysimpson 21:06 @chris_1974 @janwebb21 #ukedchat #themagickey but there is so
much h/w just now we only manage 6 pages a night. Not fun for her.
@janwebb21 At what age does a child judge his or her parents as
john_at_muuua 21:06
inadequate? #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 21:06
@ianaddison in future I'd be happy to host? #ukedchat #mustbemad
final shout for blog posts to be included in edtech Blog carnival
dannynic 21:06
http://bit.ly/fCshyx #edchat #ukedchat
chris_1974 21:06
@marketspi lucky you! Now its time for my homework! #ukedchat
right..i've done my homework for tonight, off for a quick game of Fifa
ianaddison 21:06
#ukedchat
@familysimpson and sometimes the target is to back off and ask
janwebb21 21:06
questions, not tell answers! #ukedchat
purer_ethics 21:06 successful in education & usually liked school & HW. We are the
minority!
ClaireJoanne35 21:07 @bucharesttutor yes, that's what I meant :-) #ukedchat
familysimpson 21:07 @janwebb21 #ukedchat yep, because unfortunately in my experience

as a computing teacher - those answers are wrong!
@janwebb21 yes we need to bridge the Gao between parents n
bucharesttutor 21:07 children by testing the both of them working together (hw for
example) #ukedchat
@ianaddison btw did you see the video from the mission explore
janwebb21 21:07
workshop at #ukief10 #ukedchat
#ukbookchat @ukbookchat Will there to be a monthly #ukbookchat
simcloughlin 21:07 discussion in the style of #ukedchat? Is February's book definitely
'Sister'?
@bevevans22 @ianaddison here here my first one and i enjoyed
mkwoods77 21:07
thank u all #ukedchat
@familysimpson @zoeandrewsast @janwebb21 yes precisely some
bucharesttutor 21:08 takeaway homework which will keep the parents on their toes as well
#ukedchat
familysimpson 21:08 @ianaddison enjoy ian, thanks! #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison right..i've done my homework for tonight, off for a
chrisrat 21:08 quick game of Fifa #ukedchat <-- have you filled in your homework
diary?
tj007 21:09 Thanks for another interesting #ukedchat - really couldn't keep up
with the fast flow on tweetdeck, so will have to check archives later.
now #ukedchat is finished time to grab another beer and start my
familysimpson 21:09
homework... thanks!
janwebb21 21:09 @familysimpson ONLY??? how old?? #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 21:09
@chrisrat bugger... My mum forgot to sign my diary again. #ukedchat
Great #ukedchat tonight as usual. Thanks for all the interesting views
ZoeAndrewsAST 21:09
shared.
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@ClaireJoanne35 yeah that's how it can or should be done, I do the
same for my tutoring lessons as well #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:10 @JOHNSAYERS have a chat with @colport !!!! #ukedchat
@Totallywired77 Session on twitter as learning tool yes or no in
JOHNSAYERS 21:10
coming weeks? #ukedchat
familysimpson 21:11 @janwebb21 #ukedchat six but devours books - we've read to her
since 4 weeks old, poss earlier. she reads Mog books to little bro now.
janwebb21 21:11 @john_at_muuua It's in the handbook of parenthood - from day 1

everything you do is either not good enough or wrong #ukedchat
RT @Arakwai: Thanks again 4 kind responses to my blog. If any
dellybean 21:11 #Ukedchat tweeps are interested, my thoughts on #Gove #EBacc &
my Yr9's http://j.mp/fkT51I
@john_at_muuua I have been a wholly inadequate parent since they
janwebb21 21:11
were quite small!!! #ukedchat
ironically interrupted by daughter having to build a car for homework.
john_at_muuua 21:11
But thanks guys and goodnight. #ukedchat
BookChook 21:12 RT @john_at_muuua: @familysimpson give the child time to think

and time to be. Sounds like hippy crap, but It works for me. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 21:12
@janwebb21 great... I join you in inadequacy then! #ukedchat
chrisrat 21:12 RT @john_at_muuua @chrisrat bugger... My mum forgot to sign my

diary again. #ukedchat <-- yeah right, next you'll be blaming the dog!
RT @john_at_muuua: @chrisrat bugger... My mum forgot to sign my
janwebb21 21:13
diary again. #ukedchat
RT @ZoeAndrewsAST: Great #ukedchat tonight as usual. Thanks for all
janwebb21 21:13
the interesting views shared.
familysimpson 21:13 RT @john_at_muuua: ironically interrupted by daughter having to

build a car for homework. But thanks guys and goodnight. #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:13 @john_at_muuua #ukedchat LOL!
@JOHNSAYERS as part of #Ukedchat?? Could be interesting!! Have we
enough evidence?
familysimpson 21:13
@john_at_muuua #ukedchat top gear for h/w? manual or automatic
bucharesttutor 21:13 thanks all for a lovely #ukedchat tonight, I am still here in case
someone wants to talk. Follow me and i will surely do the same.
janwebb21 21:13 @familysimpson yup, eldest was like that! but 6 pages is no fun - need
Real tasks! making, creating, comparing, evaluating! m #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:14 @john_at_muuua I had to go and buy (i repeat BUY) a newspaper for
2 girls to complete different homeworks tonight! #ukedchat
#ukedchat best no homework excuse compo: #hwkexcuse the carpet
didactylos 21:14
layers must have laid the carpet over it
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janwebb21 21:14 RT @john_at_muuua: ironically interrupted by daughter having to
build a car for homework. But thanks guys and goodnight. #ukedchat
@janwebb21 #ukedchat makes a book like a #five movie - full of ad
familysimpson 21:15 breaks! i'm 100% on same page re creative tasks -> s3 m/media h/w
like tht
RT @ianaddison: Right...I make that 9pm, feel free to carry on
janwebb21 21:15
chatting, but my work here is done #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:15 RT @didactylos: #ukedchat best no homework excuse compo:

#hwkexcuse the carpet layers must have laid the carpet over it
@familysimpson but books for 6 yr olds are made for one sitting! not
janwebb21 21:16
prescribed number of pages #ukedchat #five
janwebb21 21:17 RT @familysimpson: @didactylos #ukedchat #hwkexcuse "my auntie

visited and by accident took my folder with her - to america"
@didactylos #ukedchat #hwkexcuse "my auntie visited and by
familysimpson 21:17
accident took my folder with her - to america"
RT @Arakwai: Thanks again 4 kind responses to my blog. If any
jimbonner1964 21:17 #Ukedchat tweeps are interested, my thoughts on #Gove #EBacc &
my Yr9's http://j.mp/fkT51I
@janwebb21 #ukedchat yep - no chapter breaks, so should be no
familysimpson 21:18
breaks in reading!
cdibble 21:18 #ukedchat re hw: 3 boys yrs 7 9 11 different attitudes to hw. yr11
does to learn yr7 cos he has to & Yr9 doesn't .. no sanction if not done
janwebb21 21:19 @familysimpson absolutely! you don't make her stop after 6 pages do
you? should be reading as long as she is happy with! #ukedchat
fullonlearning 21:19 @ianaddison great #ukedchat THANKYOU!
@dawnhallybone whs teachers would prefer not to set as most don't
cdibble 21:19
do or so I am told by head yr9! #ukedchat
What if homework was optional, but so compelling students chose to
ianinsheffield 21:21 do it most if the time? #ukedchat #cloudcuckooland? & sorry I'm late :-
(
familysimpson 21:21 RT @innerquest: Take a look at these 10 tried and tested online tools
for teachers http://bit.ly/emrYX4 < worth a click #ukedchat
#ukedchat sorry for late responses but been dealing with my boys'
cdibble 21:22
reluctance to engage in their home learning ....
RT @mweller: @dawnhallybone @jobadge I'd like to ban homework,
jobadge 21:23 keep kids in school if need be, but when at home let them be free
#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 21:23 Which of your great lessons are you sharing this week at the Resource
Centre? http://bit.ly/eWhm4h #ResourceCentre #ukedchat
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ZoeAndrewsAST 20:01 RT @ianaddison: What are your thoughts on homework? #ukedchat

chris_1974 20:02 RT @ianaddison 5 minutes until we start discussing Homework/home

Creativeedu 20:04 RT @didactylos: #ukedchat homework is a waste of time if it is set

jjash 20:06 @ianaddison #ukedchat homework has to have an authentic purpose.

simcloughlin 20:08 #ukedchat #homework Has anyone invited ardent anti-homework

bevevans22 20:11 RT @missbrownsword: as a pupil I NEVER EVER did my homework!

saraloisstanley 20:11 #ukedchat thinking & talking together homework in my experience is

genkijen 20:11 @ianaddison #ukedchat no punishment , some teachers keep in , but

GaryAveryICT 20:12 Homework is a parental expectation. Getting children to do

musicmind 20:12 #UKEdChat If a child is excited by a topic/project etc then the

Creativeedu 20:13 RT @missbrownsword: as a pupil I NEVER EVER did my homework!

ianaddison 20:14 @Totallywired77 i disagree, calling it home learning is pointless.

RealLara 20:15 @raff31 I've stopped nagging. Encouragement. Opportunity to do

daibarnes 20:18 @tombarrett As a parent, I have always thought it important I read

Totallywired77 20:19 RT @passthechablis: @ianaddison @Totallywired77 doesn't the idea

GaryAveryICT 20:23 @jobadge so if we send detailed curriculum letters, detailing what we

ClaireJoanne35 20:24 @jodieworld we have been looking at using different colours

theokk 20:24 @tombarrett @daibarnes #ukedchat agree important thing is culture

tj007 20:25 @predacomDom Yes, it is important to engage parents but at

RealLara 20:25 @phillengthorn @mkwoods77 Put it in hands of parents then. If they

mkwoods77 20:26 @john_at_muuua similar to classroom, if we can make 'learning' fun

Creativeedu 20:26 @predacomDom I was a non-fee payer in a fee paying school.

sueellendixon 20:27 @ZoeAndrewsAST #ukedchat so parents have to spend their 'free'

GiftedPhoenix 20:27 #ukedchat How successfully do you differentiate homework tasks? In

bureauista 20:28 @dawnhallybone We worry because daughter at primary school gets

sueellendixon 20:29 @chris_1974 @john_at_muuua #ukedchat I think Gove's plans don;t

failbettercw 20:31 @mkwoods77 @daibarnes @ianaddison We do, but the students

john_at_muuua 20:32 @cleverfiend i refer to my previous tweet. homework should be 100%

ianaddison 20:32 @McDroll @ethinking evem if it makes no difference, scrapping it

musicmind 20:35 @ianaddison YES...they say...LET US CHOOSE a topic area of

bevevans22 20:35 @ianaddison We ask children and parent about everything...answers

Creativeedu 20:36 RT @john_at_muuua: @Creativeedu sadly no one has convinced me

daibarnes 20:37 RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - it is really damaging when teachers

paulstpancras 20:38 RT @jackieschneider #ukedchat - let's really push reading 4 pleasure.

john_at_muuua 20:40 RT @colmmu: Have been disheartened sometimes when daughter

Catriona_O 20:41 RT @fullonlearning: @kennypieper I'm with you on that. Sometimes

headteacher01 20:44 @te_ach_er Especially if it is focussed on extending an outstanding

Totallywired77 20:45 ÔÇ£@ianaddison: so how many of us are high up enough in school to

mathiaspoulsen 20:46 Would encourage everybody interested in education to follow

ldm90 20:47 New HW diaries have meant children+parents attitude is changing-

chris_1974 20:48 RT @Totallywired77: #ukedchat also works 4 meetings!"and ths

ianaddison 20:51 #poll Should homework be scrapped in primary? #ukedchat This is

ldm90 20:51 @cleverfiend i always had homework at primary school - spellings,

ianaddison 20:52 #poll Should homework be scrapped in secondary? #ukedchat This is

terr1_leigh 20:52 as a trainee I have to set homework in order to achieve a standard..

familysimpson 20:53 @janwebb21 #ukedchat i like the idea of creating as a homework

marketspi 20:53 #ukedchat remember that as teachers we were successful in

camaxwell 20:54 @robertd1981 #ukedchat or like XBOX achievements? Unlock fun

ianaddison 20:55 Should homework be scrapped? Primary: http://twtpoll.com/fwamuj

shirlpj 20:57 RT @ianaddison: Should homework be scrapped? Primary:

doc_gnome 20:57 RT @ianaddison: #poll Should homework be scrapped? #ukedchat

richardsw16 20:58 RT @passthechablis: if hw requires writing, shld be option 2 record

janwebb21 20:58 RT @john_at_muuua: @familysimpson give the child time to think

fraserboyd 20:58 @ianaddison Probably going to get my P7s to do some taking of

marketspi 20:59 @misshbond #ukedchat I hated my subject! But we still "survived"

chris_1974 21:00 @familysimpson @janwebb21 #ukedchat #themagickey with 3rd

owexelstein 21:00 @camaxwell @robertd1981 have you watched @gzicherm on

ianaddison 21:00 @ianaddison: Should homework be scrapped?? Primary:

bucharesttutor 21:01 @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21 @familysimpson guess parent finding

RT @familysimpson: @ZoeAndrewsAST @janwebb21

genkijen 21:03 @ianaddison Thankyou , twas my first #ukedchat and i enjoyed it .

familysimpson 21:07 @janwebb21 #ukedchat yep, because unfortunately in my experience

janwebb21 21:11 @john_at_muuua It's in the handbook of parenthood - from day 1