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Fire Fighting authorities (& Govts), on both sides of the Pacific, are frequently reported as obdurately pursuing policies that guarantee large
numbers of people, animals, homes, forest will be regularly annihilated. These catastrophes will repeat, and increase, with Global
Warming. Authorities have arrogantly (and provedly) refused to use better & more appropriate technologies, viz, replacing Miniscule
Manpower and Piddling Planepower with proven Large Aerial Fire Tankers.
Australia has a deplorable history of ignoring this above option, indeed of ignoring an abysmal number of other recommendations, from so
many Royal Commissions over several decades, back to the 1930’s.
The current 2009 TEAGUE Commission has, as of July 2009, shown no indication of having even considered, or investigated this option,
despite several submissions from the public requesting that the idea of Large Aerial Fire Tankers be explored.
“In forest fires, suppression efforts are most effective when initiated in the acceleration phase, as up to 90% of the maximum rate of
spread can be reached within the first 30 minutes (BROWN and DAVIS 1973; LUKE and McARTHUR 1978; McALPINE AND
WAKIMOTO 1991).
Grass fires can reach their steady state rate of spread within 12 minutes with longer acceleration phases occurring at higher wind
speeds (CHENEY and GOULD 1995).”
COMMENT: Though the above assertion is undoubtedly true, it ignores an “insurance aspect”, i.e., what firefighting strategy ought
be implemented when the fire HAS got out of control. The below paper asserts ONLY Large Aerial Fire Tankers can, and will, do
the job.
2. SALINATION
2.1 Indeed there could be a measured assessment of the percentage increase in water & ground salinity, as measured by the
quantity of salt-water delivered by these tankers, as a fraction of the annual rainfall delivered by nature. The costs of such
degradation should be fairly weighed against the costs of fire losses.
2.2 Increased corrosion of houses and other property could be likewise fairly weighed.
5.2 “… 11,000-gallon tanker plane pours ‘too much water,’ officials say …” (American Forest Service). What? The water
delivery rate can be minutely controlled ! How can uneducated and unqualified officials be continually permitted to sacrifice so
many lives and dollars, with no expertise other than their bombastic bluster?
Air Fire Tanker 910
McDonnell Douglas DC-10
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_747_Supertanker
Tanker 910 is the call-sign of the only wide-body jet air tanker
currently in fire service. The aircraft, operated by 10 Tanker Air
Carrier, is a converted McDonnell Douglas DC-10 aircraft used for
fighting wildfires, typically in rural areas. The turbofan-powered craft
carries up to 12,000gallons (45,600 liters) of water or fire retardant in an
exterior belly-mounted tank, which can be released in eight seconds.
Development
The aircraft, currently registered as N450AX, was originally delivered as a civil
passenger plane to National Airlines in 1975, and subsequently flew for Pan Am,
American Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines and Omni Air International.[1] The conversion of
the original airframe to a fire-fighting aircraft was a joint venture under the name of 10
Tanker Air Carrier between Cargo Conversions of San Carlos, California and Omni,
with conversion work being performed by Victorville Aerospace at the Southern
California Logistics Airport at Victorville, California.
Design
The water or retardant is carried in three center-line belly tanks. The tanks have internal
baffles to prevent fluid shift (and consequent shift in center of gravity) while in flight, and sit with a 15inches (38cm) ground
clearance. All three tanks can be filled simultaneously on the ground in eight minutes. The retardant is gravity-fed out of the
tanks, and the entire load can be dumped in eight seconds, although the actual drop rate is computer controlled by the flight crew
in order to produce the desired retardant spread over the fire lines. [2] The aircraft is capable of applying a line of retardant 300feet
(91m) wide by 1mile (1.6km) long.[3]
But see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_retardant for discussion of carcinogenic properties of fire-retardant, dropped into water
catchment areas.
10 Tanker Air Carrier announced in 2007 that a second aircraft would be converted to tanker usage for the 2008 fire season.[4]
Tanker 910 received competition from the Evergreen Supertanker, a BOEING 747 which has been converted to tanker use by
Evergreen International Aviation and which is able to carry up to 22,000gallons, was introduced.[4]
Contracting
In 2006 the aircraft was operated on a limited evaluation contract from the State of California. During the 2006 season, the aircraft
was offered on a “call-when-needed” basis, which came with a $26,500 per-flight-hour (three hour minimum) cost and a 12- to 24-
hour activation delay.[2] Under these terms, Tanker 910 flew on six fires in California and one in Washington.[4]
Later in the same month, the aircraft was used against several smaller California fires, as well as the Columbia Complex Fire in
Washington. In September 2006, Tanker 910 was activated by CAL FIRE for use against the Day Fire,[9] and the following month
it flew against the Esperanza Fire.[2]
2008 Fires
In June, Governor Arnold SCHWARZENEGGER activated Tanker 910 in response to the state of emergency regarding the
Humboldt Fire in Butte County, California, in order to combat the 20,000+ acre fire in adverse conditions on rough terrain. It is
currently flying sorties out of a former Air Force base, now called McClellan Airfield, in Sacramento County. It made 14 drops
totaling 168,000 gallons of retardant to quell the raging blaze, Hill said. The aircraft also participated in the defense of Big Sur at
the end of June and into July.[10] [11]
Incident
Tanker 910 experienced its first serious incident on June 25, 2007. While on its third run over the White Fire in the Kern County
mountains near Tehachapi, California, the aircraft was in a left bank while turning from base to final approach, when it
encountered severe turbulence, the left wing dropped, and the aircraft descended 100 to 200 feet lower than expected.[6][12] The left
wing struck several trees before pilots were able to power out of the descent. The aircraft climbed to altitude for a controllability
check and to dump its load of retardant, then returned to its base in Victorville, where it made an emergency landing and was
grounded pending an investigation, inspection, and repairs.[6][7][12] A post-incident investigation showed that the aircraft suffered
damage to the left wing’s leading edge, slats, ailerons and flaps.[13]
Despite the accident, the CAL FIRE has stated that they are happy with the aircraft. [14] The aircraft returned to the sky for a test
flight after repairs on July 30.[13][14]
REFERENCES
1. ^ Census data from Jetphotos.net
2. ^ a b c d “DC-10 Airtanker - Tanker 910 Fact Sheet” (PDF). CAL FIRE web site.
http://www.fire.ca.gov/newsreleases_content/downloads/2006archive/Tanker910factsheet.pdf.
Retrieved on 2007-08-22.
3. ^ a b Daniel, Stacy; Tina Leonard (August 12, 2007). “Critical turn in the Zaca Fire: DC-10 Airtanker flies over and Evacuation Order
downgraded”. KSBY-TV - San Luis Obispo, CA. MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20247741/. Retrieved on 2007-08-22.
4. ^ a b c d e f “Supertanker ready for summer of fighting California’s fires”, Inland Wildfires, June 14, 2007,
Accessed August 6, 2007
5. ^ “DC-10 drops retardant in a first for firefighting” Gizmag, accessed August 10, 2007
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_retardant
6. ^ a b c Curtis, Bill, “Firefighting jet grounded after grazing trees in Kern County”, Fresno Bee June 26, 2007, accessed same date
7. ^ a b Marcus Wohlsen, “Grounded firefighting jet raised doubts among USFS officials”, North County Times, June 26, 2007, accessed
August 8, 2007
8. ^ a b City of Victorville news release, “Mayor Rothschild Intervenes in the Sawtooth Fire, Use of DC-10 Tanker Helps Contain the
Fire”,
Accessed August 6, 2007
9. ^ CAL FIRE News Release, September 24, 2006, accessed August 17, 2007
10. ^ a b Tanker fleet to add 2nd DC-10 Wesley G. Hughes, Staff Writer, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, Inland Valley, CA. 06/22/2008.
11. ^ Humboldt Fire - Paradise, CA forum thread, City-Data.com Forum > U.S. Forums > California, 6/13/08.
12. ^ a b NTSB preliminary report
13. ^ a b “Too Close A Call For Fire-Fighting DC-10?”, KTVU-TV, August 6, 2007, accessed August 10, 2007
14. ^ a b Patrick O’Driscoll, “Use of jets to fight fires up in air”, USA Today, July 17, 2007
External links
• Tanker910.com - Website dedicated to the Tanker 910, DC-10 firefighting aircraft
• 10 Tanker Air Carrier page
• “California Procures Air Supertanker to Fight Fires”, Morning Edition, NPR, July 5, 2007, accessed August 10, 2007
• Airsider.net, with detailed technical photos and drop sequence photos from the 2005 Paris Airshow
• Analysis of DC-10’s fire use (see items #5 & #6, out of sequence)
• In-flight videos from CAL FIRE’s official web site
See also
• Aerial firefighting
• Wildland fire suppression
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_retardant (see carcinogenic reports - this material being dumped in human water catchments).
The Bombardier Canadair 415 amphibious aircraft was launched in 1991. The aircraft first flew in 1993. 65 aircraft have been
delivered to the governments of France (13), Québec (eight), Italy (17), Croatia (four), Ontario (nine), Greece (ten) and Spain
(one). The 415 has also been evaluated by the US National Guard.
“The Canadair 415, well known for its use in the firefighting service as the
Superscooper, can be adapted to a variety of missions.”
In November 2007, Croatia ordered a further two aircraft and, in January 2008, Spain ordered an additional two aircraft. In June 2008,
the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency placed an order for two 415MP aircraft. The Canadair 415, well known for its use in the
firefighting service as the Superscooper, is also adapted to a variety of specialised missions, such as maritime surveillance, search and
rescue and personnel transport. Superscooper is a Canadian and US registered trademark.
The Amphibious Aircraft division of Bombardier, based in Montréal, is responsible for the marketing, sales and product support of the
Canadair 415.
With the aircraft skimming over a distance of 1,340m (including safe clearance heights), the water tanks can be filled in 12s by the
scoops. For safe scoop-filling operations, for example from a lake, the water should have a depth greater than 1.40m.
In a firefighting mission the Bombardier Canadair 415 aircraft can remain on station for up to three hours, dropping typically nine tank
loads of water on a fire, refilling from a water source 10km away.
A foam concentrate / water mixing system is installed in the fuselage with the chemical tanks for the foam concentrate solutions fitted
under the two four-man folding seats. A spray kit can be fitted to the tanks for large area spraying of pesticides, defoliants and oil
dispersant chemicals. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_retardant
Greece has placed orders for two 415 MP aircraft for operation by the Hellenic Air
Force and the first aircraft was delivered in March 2004. The aircraft, which will be
based at the Elefsis Air Force Base, are fitted with a maritime surface surveillance
system, Ericsson side looking airborne radar, a FLIR Systems SeaFLIR forward-
looking infrared, a Honeywell Primus 660 weather and sea search radar, rescue
beacon transponders, digital imagery, autopilot system and Have Quick secure
radios. It can also deploy a jet boat that can carry rapid intervention teams of five at
speeds at over 80km/h.
FLIGHT DECK
The two-pilot flight deck is fitted with a Honeywell EDZ-605 EFIS electronic flight and information system and dual air data
computers. The instrument panels have a three-tube integrated instrument display system and an Electronic Attitude Director
Indicator (EADI) and Electronic Horizontal Situation Indicator (EHSI). The cockpit is fitted with a Litef / Honeywell Attitude
Heading Reference System (AHRS) and a Honeywell radio altimeter.
The navigation suite includes an optional Garmin global positioning system, dual automatic direction finders, VOR/ILS integrated
VHF omnidirectional radio ranger and instrument landing system, marker beacon receive units and Distance Measuring Equipment
(DME).
The communications systems include a Global multiband radio communications set covering VHF/UHF/AM/FM bands, Rockwell
Collins HF radios with two transponders and an Emergency Locator Transponder (ELT). The cabin is equipped with a vapour-
cycle air conditioner and a combustion heater.
CONSTRUCTION
The CL-415 aircraft, a cantilever high-wing monoplane, was designed around the airframe of the CL-215 aircraft. The CL-415 has
a higher operating weight than the CL-215 for increased firefighting capability. The fuselage is a fail-safe all-metal single-step
flying boat hull incorporating several watertight compartments.
Stabiliser floats are mounted on pylons on the undersides of the wings near the wingtips. The wings are fitted with endplates to
improve the aircraft’s lateral stability. The aircraft is fitted with a powered rudder, ailerons and elevators.
The aircraft has a cantilever all-metal fail-safe tail unit. The horizontal tailpieces are mounted half way up the vertical fin. The
control surfaces of the tail unit are constructed of honeycomb panels and the surface of the tail is aluminium alloy sheet.
Two waterscoops are installed behind the planing step. The aircraft has a firefighting drop system composed of four independently
openable water doors.
ENGINES
“The Canadair 415 can be adapted to maritime surveillance missions, search and rescue and personnel transport.”
The aircraft is powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PW123AF turboprop engines, each providing a power of 1,775kW. The
engines are mounted in damage-tolerant nacelles. The engines drive Hamilton Standard 14SF-19 propellers. The four-bladed
constant speed, fully feathering, reversible-pitch propellers are of diameter 3.97m (13ft 0.25in).
The two fuel tanks, with a total usable capacity of 5,796l, are installed in the wing spar box. Each tank comprises a set of eight
flexible fuel cells. There are gravity refuelling points on the upper wing and a single pressure refuelling point on the starboard side
of the rear fuselage.
LANDING GEAR
The aircraft is fitted with hydraulically operated retractable tricycle-type landing gear. There is a main landing gear well in either
side of the hull. A well plate mounted on each of the main landing gear encloses the bottom of the wheel well.
The twin-wheeled nose landing gear is steerable, self-centering and retracts rearwards. The nose unit housing in the hull is
enclosed by conformal doors. The tubed nosewheel and the tubeless main wheels are equipped with hydraulic disc brakes.
http://www.rense.com/general43/still.htm
Giant Russian Water Air Tanker Still Ignored By US
29-Oct-2003
From Craig : Dear Jeff,
I was wondering why there is no outcry demanding to have this airplane come over here and deal with the California
fires? Maybe if we make a stink, we can embarrass enough people and something will get done.
At the invitation of its officials and to facilitate the acceptance of the IL-76, ROBINSON serves as volunteer international liaison,
an official representative of the Russian Federation and its Ministry of Emergency Situations EMERCOM the Russian counterpart
of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. EMERCOM is the agency that actually owns the Waterbombers.
ROBINSON sees the IL-76 as a much-needed strategic weapon for the nation’s firefighting arsenal. He is convinced that had it
been called in when the Rodeo, Hayman and Biscuit fires began raging out of control, they would have been squelched before they
became mega-blazes. “Frankly, I’m outraged,” says ROBINSON. “This has been going on over six years. The Forest Service
has refused to allow this plane into this country for fire fighting. It’s a modern aircraft, a four-engine jet. It covers an area the
size of 12 football fields with one 10-second drop [of liquid water or retardant]. It puts a fireline down 300 feet wide and 3,900
feet long in 10 seconds. It would have saved every community in Colorado and Arizona this year. It would have saved those 300
homes in Los Alamos two years ago.”
ROBINSON said that two years ago during the Cerro Grande fire near Los Alamos, EMERCOM had two planes sitting on the
runway in Moscow, fully crewed, each plane having three eight-man crews, ready to take off. They had been requested by FEMA,
but at the last minute, FEMA told them they weren’t needed after all.
The Associated Press reported that then-District IX FEMA director Buddy YOUNG went to the fire and publicly announced, “You
will not bring the Russian planes in here: We’re not having any Russians coming here and fighting our fires.” But in fact,
ROBINSON pointed out, this has nothing to do with the IL-76 being Russian-made and owned.
The Canadians have their CL-215 tankers and CL-415 SuperScoopers. They developed the CL-215 which ROBINSON
considers superior to anything the United States has in 1967, and they’ve been rebuffed by the Forest Service for 35 years.
“They have not been able to come in and compete for Forest Service contracts because they are not a private contractor
association,” ROBINSON explains. “They’re part of the Canadian government. It’s a quasi-private, public-private partnership,
but the Forest Service does not want its contractors to face outside competition.”
According to ROBINSON, the only place Canadian planes are used for firefighting is in Los Angeles County, which leases two of
them every year and has for about 10 years, ever since the Malibu canyon fires. “The county figures, ‘We can’t trust the Forest
Service to be here.’ It was a mass debacle where they lost billions of dollars and all those multi-million-dollar Malibu homes.
One insurance company lost $100 million in two hours.” ROBINSON admits to being a “crusader” and even a “zealot.”
“That’s because I’ve flown on missions on this plane I know how good it is,” he says. “This plane is ten times bigger than the
average tanker they’re using in Arizona and Colorado and Oregon, and because it’s so heavy it can fly in windy conditions
where smaller planes would be grounded.”
Designed in the early 1970s for military transport, since the end of the Cold War the IL-76 has been used extensively throughout
the world by different countries as a cargo carrier. In order to fly firefighting missions, it is retrofitted with two aluminum tubes,
each one 90-feet long, four-feet in diameter, and capable of holding 5,500 gallons of water v a total of 11,000 gallons.
Unlike American tankers that have a pressurized system to dispense the retardant, the Ilyushin has a simple, virtually “bug-free”
gravity-flow system. However, this system requires the aircraft to fly straight and horizontal. “The plane will be flying, say, 150
feet above the ground, at 151 knots [173 mph],” ROBINSON explained. “The water comes out at the same speed as the plane, as
one big sheet of water. But when it gets about a hundred feet above the ground, it slows and comes down as a drenching rain. It’s
a big blanket of water that comes down vertically in much larger drops [than in the American pressure system]. It’s so effective
the Russians don’t even use fire retardant in it.” See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_retardant
The Russian Federation has offered on several occasions to send the plane or a pair of them to the U.S., where it could demonstrate
its effectiveness on one of the larger wildfires. They ask only for the cost of fuel and food and lodging for the crew. But officials
in the USFS have consistently said thanks, but no thanks. ROBINSON hopes that this year with more landscapes than ever
blackened by fire the Forest Service will break its long-standing opposition and agree at least to test the aircraft. But he is not
holding his breath. The Forest Service is adept at deflating any interest a politician or member of the public might show in
the Waterbomber, and officials of other agencies are likewise skeptical of its value in firefighting. “We are not interested in
buying or using the IL-76 for several critical reasons,” Forest Service spokesman Joe WALSH told the Colorado Springs Gazette
in June, at the height of the Hayman fire. “The plane would not meet our firefighting needs.” WALSH said the Forest Service has
enough air tankers, “despite what commanders at many of the fires are saying. We’re in good shape. We’re not having any
problems with our resources. We don’t have any need for it.” The plane is “too costly and lacks ability to make downhill drops, a
necessary maneuver in fighting fires in the mountains. It actually drops too much water.”
“It’s like wasting water,” WALSH said. “Water is not a commodity we can just dump hundreds of thousands of gallons of and not
worry about running out, especially in drought conditions.” (So ... use ocean water – this is becoming more abundant with
rising Climate Change levels ! A little bit of salinity can be washed away later, and it’s a hell of a lot better than
carcinogenic fire retardant loaded water being dumped on water catchment lands!)
USFS aviation official Ed STONE shares WALSH’s views. “We’ve had contact with this aircraft since 1994,” STONE told
ABC News in August 2000. “In the fires of 1994 there was intense political pressure to use it and bring it in, when we were
actually holding [our own] planes down. We looked, and we didn’t care for the product,” he said. Dennis LAMUN, head of
Bureau of Land Management’s Fixed Wing Program at the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho, is similarly critical.
“The only thing the IL-76 has in its favor is that it’s big,” LAMUN told WorldNetDaily. “Not that it’s sophisticated or
technologically advanced, it’s just that it’s big. We build big airplanes in America, but we don’t go out and tank them because
they don’t fight fire very well.”
“Bigger isn’t necessarily better,” he added. “The Forest Service has more 3,000-gallon, Type 1 air tankers than BLM does, but
our philosophy at BLM is that we’d rather have two airplanes carrying 2,500 gallons each, that can go in two different directions,
than one airplane carrying 5,000 gallons, because if I want all 5,000 gallons in the same spot, I can get it. We have 54 600-, 700-,
and 800-gallon airplanes, and we want more of them, and it isn’t because we’re ignorant that we don’t trade all those smaller
airplanes in for one big 10,000 gallon one. It’s because we know what we want because we fight fire for a living.”
In addition to his work for BLM, LAMUN heads the Interagency Airtanker Board that represents air tanker contractors and federal
firefighting agencies. It is responsible for setting criteria for air tankers and overseeing the certification process. ROBINSON
never expected such a degree of opposition when he became involved with those trying to bring the Ilyushin into this country. “I
thought it would be easy,” he said. In 1996 he was invited to join Global Emergency Response a Canadian-Russian-American joint
venture, created to sponsor the IL-76 in disaster mitigation around the world. The idea of a company that would arrange the
leasing and use of the aircraft was the brainchild of Tom EDMISON, president of Total Corporate Aviation Services, a Calgary-
based aviation resource company.
Formerly a chief pilot for Gulf Oil, EDMISON had routinely flown a B-727 back and forth between Calgary and Russia for oil
crew changes. On those runs he got to know the Russians and became familiar with the IL-76, “a marvelous, versatile workhorse.
When I started this I said to myself “this is really something,” Edmison recalls. “Here’s a chance to do something entrepreneurial
and it’s got peace and the environment written on it. It served everything: It was good business, good for the environment, and it
has a tremendous peace message.” He was surprised when the Forest Service didn’t see it that way and began placing roadblocks
in the way.
Because of ROBINSON’s contacts in the fire prevention community, EDMISON and EMERCOM officials approached him,
figuring that an American would be able to overcome bureaucratic objections to the IL-76. He agreed to serve as the fledgling
group’s chief administrator. He’s made some progress among politicians, the media and the public, but the door to the Forest
Service remains closed.
Part of the problem may be that few Americans including Forest Service personnel have actually seen the IL-76 in action. That’s
not the fault of the Russians or Global Emergency Response. In particular, the Forest Service has shown a singular lack of interest.
It has not tested the plane, though in Sept1994 upon an invitation from GER it sent two specialists to a demonstration at an air
show at Bascomb Downs, England, to look the plane over and observe it being put through its paces. They were outnumbered by
some 20 members of the media, including the BBC and Associated Press.
Aviation specialist Joe MADAR was enthusiastic, reportedly cheering, “My, God, will that thing ever stop dropping water.
Perfect, perfect,” as the tanker poured out its cargo of water in two passes before the grandstand. After the demonstration,
MADAR told a reporter he thought the aircraft could have been effective in the then-recent fires in California, Nevada and
Colorado. The enthusiasm is lacking in his later written report, though MADER noted that the plane could be useful as a
“supplemental firefighting resource.”
‘Miracle’ in Greece
WorldNetDaily could find no one within the federal agencies who has actually seen the IL-76 in action. Apparently not one Forest
Service or BLM ranger or fire fighter has decided to take a closer look. ROBINSON has. And it’s that experience he says that
changed him from being an enthusiastic supporter into a “zealot.” It was in 1999, and Greece was enduring its worst wildfires in
over a century. Infernos were raging in the mountainous terrain, and winds were so fierce the air tankers of the Greek Air Force
were grounded.
As he tells it, “There were two 3,000-foot-wide fires that were going unabated because of windy conditions through the mountains,
burning all their monuments and forests. CNN was there and said it was unstoppable. But we filled up at the Greek Air Force
base, then went to the first fire. We flew by on an observation run, came back around, lined up on the fire, judged the wind
direction, opened the doors on the tanks v and whoosh v 10 seconds later we looked back and that 3,000 feet of fire was gone,
absolutely gone.”
That took care of the first fire. The pilot returned to the base, the tanks were refilled, and they went to the second fire and put that
one out just as quickly. “These fires had burned for a week, with hundreds of firefighters and all kinds of equipment brought in
from Germany and other countries,” said ROBINSON. “The Greek media called it a miracle.” Though it convinced
ROBINSON and the Greek public, the Greek government decided against future use of the Waterbomber, preferring instead to
invest in a fleet of planes at $25 million each.
Florida burned
In June 1998, Flagler Country in northeast Florida was ablaze. Fires were so bad the Daytona 500 had to be cancelled. Half-a-
million acres were eventually devastated and several hundred homes destroyed. A standard criticism about the IL-76 is that it
won’t work in mountain areas: Flagler County is pancake flat.
On June22, EMERCOM made an offer to then-Gov. Lawton CHILES to bring in the Waterbomber and a crew. The plane would
have been in Florida within 48 hours, ROBINSON said. All the Russians asked was that the state cover the costs of fuel and
maintenance for the aircraft and food and lodging for the crew. A cap of $500,000 for 30 days was placed on the mission.
At first, everything seemed to be moving without a hitch. The state of Florida said OK. Both the Federal Aviation Agency and the
State Department gave their approval. The Florida Air National Guard was going to host the aircraft and its crew at Patrick Air
Force Base. Suddenly the governor decided against the offer, and the whole thing fell through. At a press briefing Chiles tried to
justify his decision. “The Forest Service told me that the plane was so big and carries so much water it would destroy homes and
kill the firefighters,” he said. “Do people really believe this?”, ROBINSON says he wondered in amazement. Not everybody,
surely. Though the Forest Service would like to see it go away, the IL-76 has picked up supporters, including members of the
firefighting community.
James HARRISON is a battalion chief with the Santa Barbara Co. Fire Dept. in southern California. In his nearly 40-year career
as a firefighter he’s fought both structure fires and wildfires. HARRISON said he became aware of the IL-76 a couple of years
ago he does not recall the exact date v when a group of Russians came to the United States at the invitation of the U.S.State
Department for a week-long session of disaster-preparedness workshops between officials from EMERCOM and local American
counterparts. HARRISON met the man who developed the IL-76, and became friends with the head of EMERCOM. They
showed him a four-minute video clip of the plane taking off and making water drops. “All I can say is if the planes are half as
good as what this man says they are, we should at least give them a chance,” says HARRISON.
HARRISON followed through by reading all the articles he could find about it, and so far has seen nothing that would make him
change his mind. Asked if he thought the amount of water discharged is not really a good thing, Harrison laughed. “I think you
need to be able to put it where you want,” he said, and added, “That’s why I’d like to be able to test this aircraft. I’d like to see the
thing at work, because they [the Russians] tell me they can put it wherever you want. They tell me that they can put it in a line
almost a mile long, and they tell me they can put it very wide for half a mile.”
Would he find that useful as a fire professional? “Absolutely,” he exclaimed, and added that he didn’t think being able to haul and
drop 11,000 gallons “could possibly be a drawback.” “I know the Forest Service disagrees with me, and I disagree with them,” he
said. “Whichever. But I don’t understand why there’s anything other than a political reason that I’m not aware off that we
wouldn’t at least bring that plane over here and try it.”
Sarah FOSTER WorldNetDaily ©1999 “Pravda. RU”. When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, reference to Pravda.
RU should be made.
Comment
From Starfleethighcom@aol.com 10-30-3
Shalom,
Let us swallow our pride, admit our mistakes, and start doing the right thing. The only reason why it is not allowed to be used here
is because of the NIH mentality of our fellow Americans. NIH stands for “not invented here” mentality. Politicians are like that,
they wanted something homemade that they can use as a vote getting and campaing fund getting project (from contractors who’ll
get the big bucks and expresses their thanks in the form of campaign fund contributions). And the minute somthing went wrong,
off they go to the “blame shifting and passing the buck” merry-go-round strategy inorder to avoid their responsibilities.
Shalom!
Comment
From Lars Vonpacker 10-31-3
Quebec offers more aid to California MONTREAL - Quebec is offering increased aid to authorities battling severe wildfires across
southern California, where flames stretch from the Mexican border to Los Angeles.
The province already has a contract to supply Los Angeles County with two water bombers each fall. But the government said it is
willing to send more planes if the state asks for help. Gerard LACASSE, a spokesperson for SOPFEU, Quebec’s fire protection
agency, said the province’s two water bombers have already been called into action. He said that Quebec is willing to send up to
three more planes if necessary. “If we have a request for any resources we’re going to look at it,” said LACASSE. “And if they
need water bombers like we have here, it’s going to be possible because we have a lot of those machines right now available
because the fire season is over here.”
The fires in California have already destroyed nearly 2,000 square kilometres of land and have made their way to the suburbs of
San Diego and Los Angeles. LACASSE said that Quebec is currently seeking contracts with other municipalities south of the
border to maximize the use of the province’s planes.