[5/19/2016, 7:01 PM] k kadiri: Ramanujiiyaru also don't say 'kashchana rushih'.

If you see
Sudarshanaacharya's shrutaprakaashika (it is a prachina tika on ramanuja bhashya), he quotes
the same skanda purana quote given by Shrimad Acharyaru, to say that Paaraasharya (of
shribhashya's mangalacharana shloka) = Narayana.

[5/19/2016, 7:17 PM] k kadiri: however, advaitins consider vedavyasaru as an incarnation of

apaantara-tamas, who is just like any rushi, but with the aavesha of Narayana (They use the
word 'shakti-avataara' instead of 'aavesha'). That's why Shankara writes of apaantaratamas as
an elevated soul i.e. an aparoxa-jnaani, but not Parameshvara himself. See his bhashya on sutra
(yavad adhikaaraH!).

[5/19/2016, 7:17 PM] k kadiri: That's why we say that Samkara equates Vyaasaru as any other
rushi...

[5/19/2016, 7:20 PM] k kadiri: majaa enandre, there is an entire chapter at the end of shanti
parva that deals with Shri Vedavaysa avataara... And in that chapter, a sage by name
'apaantaratamas' prays to Lord Narayana, and gets a boon that he will be reborn again with
aavesha of Narayana. and this apantaratamas becomes Shri Vedavyasa - anta.... It fully seems
like supporting samkara's theory... aadaare...

[5/19/2016, 7:26 PM] k kadiri: Shri Vadirajaru clarifies in Lakshaalankara that apaantaratama
too is a Narayana avatara, who emanated from Narayana at the beginning of srishti... thus is
NOT yatkashchana rishi. Thus he does the parihaara of the mahabharata bhaaga which says
apantaratamas did tapas to become vedavyaasaru

VTVN 8

ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅ ಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ | ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ |

ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ | ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ
ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ | ಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ |
ಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ | ಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅ
ಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ | ಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅ
ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅ |
ಅಅಅಅಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ –

ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅ: ಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ |

ಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ ಅ ಅಅಅಅ ಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅಅ || ಅಅಅ|| ಅಅ ಅ

ಅಅಅಅ 8
apaurushheyatvaM cha svata eva siddham.h | vedakarturaprasiddheH ||

aprasiddhau cha kartustatkalpane kalpanAgauravam.h || akalpane chAkartR^ikatvaM

siddhameva || na cha laukikavAkyavatsakartR^ikatvam.h |
tasyAkartR^ikatvaprasiddhyabhAvAt.h ||

na cha kenachit.h kR^itvA 'veda' ityuktaM vedasamam.h, paramparAbhAvAt.h ||

na cha svayampratibhAtavedaiHdR^ishhTamavedavAkyaM bhavati, paramparAsiddha

vedavAkyAnusAritvAt.h | vedadrashhTR^INAM uktaguNavatvAchcha teshhAm.h ||

uktaM cha brahmANDe.

"viMshallaxaNato.anUnastapasvI bahuvedavit.h |

veda ityeva yaM pashyet.h sa vedo j~nAnadarshanAt.h"

That the Vedas are not compositions of any one is evident by itself, and it is very simple to
prove this. There is no evidence to prove that there is an author(s) for Vedas, for the author of
the Vedas is unascertained. While the author of the Vedas is unascertained, to postulate such
an author is a case of unnecessary postulation. In addition, if he is not postulated, that Vedas
are author-less follows inevitably. To establish dharma, adharma it is easy and automatic to
take shelter of Vedas.

On the analogy of worldly testimony, we cannot argue that the Vedic testimony also must have
some personal source, for in the case of the former there is no prevalent conception that it is
author less ( i,e., there is not a single instance to prove its authorlessness). Like all scripts to
consider, Vedas as authored by a person (s) is a useless logic. It is with certainty that there is no
need to claim that there can be no two things equal or same. Vedas might have its own
specialties.

If a statement was to be made by someone and was to be named 'Veda', it does not become
equal to the Veda, as there is no (continuous) tradition to that effect. For example, if a
secretive person creates a text and claims that this not written by any one, and it is pointless to
equal it to Vedas because, if one starts researching the root or lineage, it gets stopped at the
person who started the claim.

The testimony that is intuited by those to whom the Vedas manifest themselves, cannot be
other than 'Veda' for, what they intuit is one in import with the Veda (that portion of the Veda
which is undisputed) and they do have the merits that are said to characterize the seers (Rishis)
of the Veda.

The rishi (seer) to whom a Veda is revealed if it is aligned to the taught lineage of Vedas, then
we can consider it has real Veda. Due to the various cycle of birth, if the rishi gets the
revelation in this cycle and remember of its root (past) then there is no breakage in lineage.

However, if the secretive person claims that the script (text) he is reciting is of the past Veda,
then how can we identify its credibility? In this accord, the following is said in the
Brahmandapurana: 'If he, who does not have less than twenty out of the thirty two merits,
who is given to penance, and who knows many Vedas, sees, by the power of his intuitive vision,
any text as forming part of the Veda, it has to be admitted as such'.

[3/16/2016, 8:52 PM] sarvamoola: SaligrAmadalli bhAgavanthana iruvikeya dhyAna hege anta
noDoNa- ..Modalu sthAvara jangama anta eraDu prabheda. SthAvara gagaLalli matte ereDu
prabedha. SahajAchala mattu mAnava nirmita. mAnava nirmita ( eg pratime) dalli 5 golakagaLu.
Golaka andare Ashraya sthAna. GolakanAgi paramAtma iruttAne.

1) Pratime rUpa dalli iruva rUpa

2) tattvAbhimAni devate gaLalli iruva rUpa

3) vAyu antargata rUpa

4) ramA antargata rUpa

5) sAkShAt paramAtma

Ivu 5 golakagaLu
[3/16/2016, 8:52 PM] sarvamoola: Innu sahajAchala (sAligrAma)dalli kevala 3 golakagaLu. Illi
rudrAdi devategaLa golaka villa.

1) vAyu antargata rUpa

2) ramA antargata rUpa

3) sAkShAt paramAtma.

Heege chintane mADi dhyAna mAduvudu anta sthAvara-jangama or dhyAna prakriyA sandhi
heLutte

Why Dharba (holy grass) is used as ring during on our auspicious and inauspicious occasions !!..

# Forwarded by a research fellow and known fellow of our Hindu rituals...

"This article is on one of the practices widely used by Indian Brahmins all over using a Holy
Grass named Darbha, Dharbham or Dharbai. The botanical name is Eragrostis cynosuroides and
in Hindi they call this as Kus or Kusha. Brahmins use this Dharbai grass in all functions,
auspicious or inauspicious. A performing person needs to wear a ring made of this Dharbham.
But many have lost the reason of why it is to be used in the first place.

What I learnt from my father is proved to be accurately correct by a Medicine Practitioner. A

Medical Practitioner once visited my home. When the topic turned to many subjects, I needed
to tell him about the Holy Grass named Dharbham. When I told him about the usage and the
values, he could not just believe my words. So, he took out a bunch of the Dharbham from me,
went straight to the clinic to take an X-ray of his palm, by covering his hand with the Dharbham.
To his utter surprise, he found that the grass absorbed about 60% of the (X-ray) radiation!

When the so powerful X-ray radiation can be absorbed by the Holy Grass, why can it not absorb
the ill-radiations spread over the atmosphere?

At the time of Solar eclipse or Lunar eclipse our elders used to keep this Holy grass in all the
food containers in the house to protect from radiation of eclipses.
While chanting and reciting some Vedic phrases and verses, one needs to wear a ring made of
Dharbham on his right hand ring finger. This is most essential, while performing all the rituals,
such as Agni Santhanam, Thiru-Aaradhanam, all sorts of

Havans known as Homam etc.

The count of leaves depends upon the function that is held viz. for some functions related to
death only single leaf Dharbham is used; for auspicious and daily routine a ring made of two
leaves is

used; for inauspicious but not death related functions, (i.e. Amavasya Tharppanam,Pithru Pooja
etc) a three-leaf Dharbham ring is used. And for the Temple Prayer and Pooja, a four-leaf
Dharbham ring is used.

Also, when a fire ritual known as Agni Santhana is performed, these Dharbham are spread all
the four sides of the Agni Kundam. Also, during the Eclipse time, these Dharbham are used to
cover all food items to protect them from the harmful ultra violet radiation.

Whenever any function is held, firstly they perform a site-cleansing act known as "Sudhhi
Punyaahavachanam". While reciting the selective versus, they hold the Dharbham bunch in
their hand and

placing the tip point of it over the vessel containing water. Thus the recited vibration values are
absorbed by water in the vessel through the Dharbham.

They found that the Holy Grass known as Dharbham has the highest value in conducting the
phonetic vibrations through its tip. Later, they sprinkle the Holy water at every nook and corner
of the place, where the function is held. A Dharbham without the tip is considered of no value,
as the conductor-type value is lost in it."

Our Rishis were of greater knowledge than today's scientists , today's science is struggling to
understand the inventions of ancient Great Rishis..
"Let us save our ancient science and our great heritage "

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Why Non-shastra followers are having plenty of money (Nidhi) than followers? What is real
ayswaryam?

ASHTAVIDH NIDHI

Unbridlled flow of PLEASURES , wealth and prosperity is known as NIDHI !

One who has such nidhis [drishTi], his future generations also enjoy its fruits.

* Some nidhis stay for only one generation, some for three, some for eight.

* Some nidhis give enjoyment only to owner and not to his family members like wife children
brothers [they continue to live in poverty] but owner lives luxuriously.

* Some nidhis give all the enjoyments till the owner is alive but takes away all his wealth either
by theft or misfortune and results into death the owner. Thus, does not pass onto the next
generation.

* Some nidhis grows 8 times with every generations and stays but only indulges owner and his
children in sins

On the whole people become rich only when Nidhi Devi casts her eye on the subject and not by
anyone’s hard work! This is the bitter truth of the world!
The best among nidhis is known as Padmini Nidhi, owner of this nidhi is supposed to be most
fortunate person in the world. Person having this nidhi drishti has a stable income source,
which is ever increasing, full of family- children, grandchildren, and he is able to builds temples
and tanks and roads. That person gives immense daana, does yaag yagnya, upavasa, vratas. As
his money is satvik, it will stay for 8 generations in the family.

“Nidhi Devi is Laxmidevi”

Nidhis are satvik, rajasik,tamasik, satva rajasaik, rajas tamo, satva tamo, rajo satva, mishra

Nidhis come to the house of a person, pleased with that person’s sadhana, which surpasses in
the respective category. Nidhis automatically come to that person. So extreme riches are result
of seva of Guru [like Rayaru] and not out of some brainy venture or hard work- so SAYS Jaimini
Rishi.

Nidhis are guarded by yakshinis. Looking at a life of a person his growth and success and living
style one can say which yakshini is staying in his house.

How do we know, which nidhi we have- by the events in our lives, by the type of children born,
and/or by the type of expenses we make, all give a good pointer on which nidhi we are enjoying.

Whenever one encounters good days like regular income growth in financial status,
accumulation of good things of consumable goods, yet one faces difficulties of varied nature
[personal, children, parents, disease, professional, enemies etc] with these we can find out
source of our sorrow. These sorrows stop only when we reject the wealth (streaming from
wrong source) that we are getting. But how many of us can reject the wealth, even if it results
in difficulty, how many of us can discern that that could be the cause?
Certain wealths and earnings do not allow you to do any form of Vishnu Sadhana, even if one
does sadhana it destroys it with excessive indulgence, bringing unwanted uncontrolled
atmosphere, which is against satvik behavior. Thus, nullifying all the satvik efforts.

A small hint, wealth that grows from generation to generation is not satvik at all.

Hejjaye melina hejjaye nittuta; Gejjaye taale dhwaniya toruta; Sajjan sadhu poojaye velege;
majjige dolagina benne ante bhagyaada laxmi baramma; Nammama ni saubhagyada “nidhiye”
baramma! narada uses nidhi.

Nidhis automatically come to a person who is enaged in Pranantargat Naryana Sadhana.

Leaving that if one engages in yakshini sadhana to gain nidhi for self, he will always end up in
sins and go to nitya naraka. This is a totally new perspective of materialism.

Shivaradhana, pratyek stree devata aradhana/Kalai sadhana, other tamas sadhanas gives rise to
tamas nidhis. And people will get caught in whirlpool of sins [which they can never come out of
it as it gives more and more moha]. And ends up in disaster that is why madhwa shastra
prohibits itar devata sadhana!

So, next time one must not get awed or confused by the wealth of a criminal, tamas person or a
rajas person or confuse his sadhana to be better.

Itar Devata Sadhana means, worshipping only Rudra as the giving force. Madhwas to
Vishambhara Moorty upasana in the name of Ganpati sadhana, we do not do Ganesh Sadhana
alone.
why not “particular rupa of Narayana,” because certain rupas operate inside particular jeevas
only [in creation], also all jeevas below such Vibhuti rupas in tartamya must worship these
rupas as tadantargat is Lord’s dictum.

Satvik nidhi is attained purely by grace of poorvaja, but if we ourselves are the generators of
such a wealth then extreme fortune is required, which is seen by Devata anugraha directly in
our lives (like conversing with DEVATAS etc.). such people can see feel luck through and
through and attribute it to Aradhyaa devatas. Saatvik nidhi doesn’t increase is the rule.

Wealth is not about earning good salary and decent bank savings…when person does not have
to strive for livelihood, yet can serve 100s of people and help them with livelihood that is called
wealth.

Wealth is never earned sadhana merely maintains it. Once a purvaja [pitru] accumulates a
nidhi], from then on it starts decreasing if it is satvik, yet generations enjoy and live happily.

* Wealth, if it has increased from generation to another means it is raja or tamas. It will bring
only sins, associations with natya strees, kulatas, dancers etc. and get wasted on them. Not a
single pie will go towards daana, as such nidhi does not give any faith in afterlife.

* If wealth stays for three generations even that is rajas, it brings downfall to every generation.

* If wealth does not go to children but to someone else, it is certainly tamas.

* When the money that you are earning is not being of any use to family even then it is TAMAS
wealth.
* The wealth that creates love among people, respect among relatives, paves way for building
temples, daana, accumulation of precious stones, and also makes children behave in same way
is SATVIK. This welath reduces to half in every geneartion but still stays still generations.

* Whenever one keeps faith [undeterred] in advaita, non vedic, sadhana, TAMAS nidhi comes
flowing into the house. then after that there is no escape. Vishishta advaita, shaiva, shakta,
ganapatya, saurya, sadhnas makes one get rajas nidhi, which is engulfed with the ‘I’, ‘mine’, ego.

Certain sadhanas brings in huge wealth and fame but gives jada buddhi. This makes person
duller and duller day by day.

Rajo and tamas sadhana gives prospect for progress but gives little progress and then brings in
loads of troubles and it all these becomes cyclic. If you leave that sadhana then progress comes
to stand still. The nidhi obtained through rajo tamas sadhana, brings in many women of
doubtful characters on to the center stage of life, and dealing with them becomes obligatory. In
the whole, process a little lapse of satvik sadhana [which such nidhi forces] makes you immerse
in samsara of sins without even realizing that such a thing has happened. Unless a strong force
like that of Rayaru pulls you back.

When such type of wealth gets donated to mutts, the children of mutt get into company of
prostitutes, drink, gamble and wealth gets wasted.

When serving such wealthy people one partake his wealth as salary, even they spend it on
movies, masti, magic, and fun. And finally get restive mind. All the people serving mletcha
organizations, will not have inclination to eat food in satvik way, they most of the time end up
eating standing, or in a avedic way. They will never be able to do vaishvadeva in their house.

When you serve an organization, owned by a divorcee or vyabhichaari, you will invariably have
fights with spouse and frequently you will get to hear words like- I will leave you, I will not live
with you, I am no more your spouse etc.
If you are serving organizations, which takes its source of income from babas of Himalayas then
you will get immense greed, you will invest in stock, you will laugh at mutts, brahmanical rituals,
you will give a sly look towards scholars and deems them as beggars or money mongers.

When you are serving organizations, which have vaishya characteristics, you will feel hastodaka,
bramhan bhojana are cheap, unsophisticated, rustic or unprogressive ways of gathering. Homa,
havan, japa are escapist methodology.

Whenever you get such thoughts, peek into your source of income, and look for remedies.

If without drinking a bottle of coke or wine one does not feel elated rejuvenated and in absence
of that he feels bored and stale. Two days into vrata if one feels – how long is this austerity
period, how quickly will it end, can I eat after 12, be sure that you are serving a mletccha.

When you have decided to work for a mletccha organization, then you must stop pestering
about family peace, unable to concentrate, no motivation towards Lord, lethargy, heavy pull
towards para stree, want of luxuries- these thoughts should not disturb you and you should
understand whatever remedies will be done shall last only temporarily.

Today, tamas nidhi is in full swing and present in mletccha lands, so opportunity to earn is easy
there. But what it means is that tamas is waiting to engulf you, genetic defects, loss of rights,
caste, loss of spiritual legacy, loss of tradition (no passing of tradition to next generations), lack
of parental love, lack of discipline, extreme difficulty towards indriya nigraha, and having a
polluted mind are all waiting. The web of such a wealth is that it will not give chance to think
and will keep you entangled.

Shri Krishnarpanamastu