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The Spirit of Modernism, Tadao Ando interview help us if you want this blog to TA: When you look at Japanese traditional architecture, you have to the word "simulacra" (the
with Architectural Record about the craft, continue look at Japanese culture and its relationship with nature. You can term coined by
actually live in a harmonious, close contact with nature—this very Baudrillard)as the contents
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AR: You are constantly drawing. How has the computer modified AR: What do you see as the role of architecture in the world?
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TA: We have to realize that the "age of discovery" has brought with it
TA: When I draw something, the brain and the hands work together. a disruption of the environment. Now architects are facing the "age
My hand is the extension of the thinking process—the creative of responsibility." When you design and build something, you have to
process. The computer offers another kind of creativity. You cannot consider what you are taking away from the earth or the environment
ignore the creativity that computer technology can bring. But you in order to make something new. At the same time, I would add that
need to be able to move between those two different worlds. the American people have a lot of courage. This is embedded within
the American spirit, the "frontier spirit." You always want to try to
AR: It’s not fashionable to talk about beauty, but in looking at your make something new, and, of course, America is the world leader in
buildings, I think about it. What is the role of beauty in your work? economics today. I hope America can also be the cultural leader of
the world, and use this frontier spirit to lead and show others that we
TA: There is a role and function for beauty in our time. In Japan it need courage to go places where we have not gone before.
may be translated into the concept of Uskuji, which also means a
beautiful life, that is, how a person lives––his or her inner life. It’s If you look at the 1950s, you will notice that the modern world’s most
something beyond appearance, or what only meets the eye. You representative architecture was created in the United States at that
can’t really say what is beautiful about a place, but the image of the time—such as the Seagram Building. And even before that, with the
place will remain vividly with you. People tend not to use this word Chrysler Building and Rockefeller Center, you can see that American
beauty because it’s not intellectual—but there has to be an overlap society was interested in creating a culture of the future. But now,
between beauty and intellect. more and more, its society is concerned with economy and finance. I
hope that America as a whole, and especially its architects, will
AR: You purposefully introduce intuitive, internal, or illogical become more seriously involved in producing a new architectural
elements into your work. These are very human attributes. Is this a culture that would bring the nation to the apex—where it has stood
way of understanding and connecting to people? before—and lead the world.

TA: You’re absolutely right. It’s a way of relating the work to people.

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designed the Komyo-ji Temple in Saijo, Ehime, out of wood, which


suggests impermanence. It seems like the Ise Shrine in Nara, which 0 comments:
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church, an eternal object for the celebration of God. The material
chosen, such as stone, brick, or concrete, is meant to eternally
preserve what is inside. But in Japan, there’s nothing like that, since
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eternal, so the enclosure doesn’t have to be. Japanese architecture,


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