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David Holmes overheard a phone call between Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland in which Trump personally raised the investigations he requested from Ukraine. Holmes testified that the call was so distinctive that no one needed to refresh his memory, saying he had never seen anything like a president calling from a mobile phone at a restaurant to have such a candid conversation. Holmes' account of the July 26th call is the first to involve Trump personally calling about the Democratic and Biden investigations central to the impeachment inquiry. Holmes is scheduled to testify publicly on Thursday.
David Holmes overheard a phone call between Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland in which Trump personally raised the investigations he requested from Ukraine. Holmes testified that the call was so distinctive that no one needed to refresh his memory, saying he had never seen anything like a president calling from a mobile phone at a restaurant to have such a candid conversation. Holmes' account of the July 26th call is the first to involve Trump personally calling about the Democratic and Biden investigations central to the impeachment inquiry. Holmes is scheduled to testify publicly on Thursday.
David Holmes overheard a phone call between Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland in which Trump personally raised the investigations he requested from Ukraine. Holmes testified that the call was so distinctive that no one needed to refresh his memory, saying he had never seen anything like a president calling from a mobile phone at a restaurant to have such a candid conversation. Holmes' account of the July 26th call is the first to involve Trump personally calling about the Democratic and Biden investigations central to the impeachment inquiry. Holmes is scheduled to testify publicly on Thursday.
David Holmes, a state department official, said he had “never
seen anything like” the phone call he overheard between
Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland, the EU ambassador, in which Trump personally raised the investigations he had requested from Ukraine. The call, which Holmes overheard during a lunch with Sondland in Kyiv, was so distinctive that no one needed to refresh his memory, according to testimony released late on Monday in the impeachment inquiry. “I’ve never seen anything like this,” Holmes told House investigators, “someone calling the president from a mobile phone at a restaurant, and then having a conversation of this level of candor, colorful language. There’s just so much about the call that was so remarkable that I remember it vividly. ” Holmes’ account of the conversation on 26 July is the first to involve Trump personally calling about the investigations into Democrats and Joe Biden that are central to the impeachment inquiry. The transcript was released on Monday, hours before the start of a marathon week of public hearings featuring key witnesses, including Sondland and several others who were on the 25 July phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, that led to the impeachment inquiry. Holmes, a political counselor at the US embassy in Ukraine, is scheduled to testify publicly on Thursday. Holmes, who joined Sondland and others during the lunch meeting, told investigators Trump was talking so loudly he could hear the president clearly on the ambassador’s phone. The call was not on speaker phone, he said. “I then heard President Trump ask, quote, ‘So he’s going to do the investigation?’” Holmes testified. “Ambassador Sondland replied that ‘he’s going to do it’, adding that President Zelenskiy will, quote, ‘do anything you ask him to’. ”
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