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1.Which university below will you most probably meet a wild pig?
The university of HongKong
2.Which one of the following is not the reason why we should not frighten away the
wild ducks?
A.salted duck eggs are delicious
B.Beijing duck is delicious
C. The society is better when we have ducks to eat
7. Basically what we’ve learned is the English land law with American characteristics,
kind of like socialism with Chinese characteristics
14.Norman 小时候在新泽西州在台湾商店买猪排,在香港商店买烧腊,在中国商
店买酱料(大陆商店最大,香港商店最小)
15. New England clan chowder is cream based, while Manhattan’s is based on Potato,
16. Seattle is famous for its coffee culture, New Jersey is famous for its shores.
18. Nj’s immigrate history: many educated Chinese and Indian scientist .( 顺序:
Taiwan (first wave)—mainland,HK(second wave)
19.Missouri: famous for ribs, ravioli 意大利饺子🥟🥟, cake and Mark Twain
(Ribs in St.Louis 最大城市 Wet:sweeeeeeet ribs. Dry: with salt and garlic )
20.Finders,keepers,losers,weepers.———not true
21.Neil Armstrong :
Recent news: he punched a guy (Conspiracy: someone who believe the moon is
all fake)
22. Sauerkraut balls
Missed Chinese food, the normal supermarket: no rice, only sushi rice 酸菜猪肚
(use sauerkraut tastes even better!)
barber shop:
social function: men get their haircut and chat and gossip. this authentic style barber
shop no longer exist in england.
in HK cube house (barber shop) 10minutes for each person. in salon 90 minutes, prof.
does not like head message when washing heads.
婚戒文化传统
man propose to woman and offer a gift-engagement ring. usually manual delivery.
acceptance valuable /put on the ring on finger
engagement: ring fancy, big diamond, women wear
wedding bend(ring): men and women both wear
need to have both two types of rings ready
have somebody licensed to carry the weddings. exchange wedding rings. priest ask do
u have ring prepared? 伴郎伴娘送上戒指
most american people wear wedding bend on their left hand 4th finger
女性怎么戴两个戒指?women wear wedding ring inside ---traditional reason: closer
to heart 脱下订婚戒指或直接两个一起戴
most women don't wear engagement ring all the time.
33 % of american 觉得女人求婚没问题
80%美国男人乐意接受女人求婚 court believe majority proposal are given by men.
1: descriptive and normative theories of property
2019年8月16日 下午 01:53
Question
A. Descriptive question: Describe something, what something is
B. Normative question: you ought to do something, what ought something be like
Johnson v. M'Intosh
1. Purpose of reading Johnson v. M'Intosh
(1) Foundational case in US property law; allows us to focus on the right of transfer in
the bundles of sticks
(2) Stands for the proposition in US property law that the US government is the
ultimate source of land title (while the title can be transferred completely to a third
party)
(3) It's a controversial case.
2. Note
(1) Discovery is a way to acquire property like unknown things, such as land.
(2) Chain of title
i. In US, if you purchase a land, frequently the US government will offer you
access to the chain of title to this land.
ii. A chain of title is the sequence of historical transfers of title to a property. The
"chain" runs from the present owner back to the original owner of the
property.
(3) An action of ejectment. 收回不动产的诉讼;
(4) “quiet title” :
i. An action to quiet title is a lawsuit brought in a court having jurisdiction over
property disputes, in order to establish a party's title to real property, or
personal property having a title, of against anyone and everyone, and thus
"quiet" any challenges or claims to the title.
3. Facts
(1) Plaintiff: Johnson; Defendant: M’Intosh;
(2) Johnson purchases two large pieces of land under conveyance from Indian tribes in
1773 and 1775. The land was in what would become Illinois, but at the time was not
part of the US. After the independent war, the Britain relinquished all claim to the
“propriety and territorial rights of the United States” and passed the right and
authority to the United States. Later, after the US 'acquired' Illinois, the defendant
M'Intosh obtained a deed for a land from the US Federal government.
(3) These two lands overlapped with each other. Johnson’s heirs tried to get M'Intosh
kicked off of their land (aka brought an action for ejectment).
(4) Technically speaking, Johnson is first in time in this land; M’Intosh subsequent
obtained the land.
4. History Procedure
(1) The Trial Court found for M'Intosh. Johnson's heir appealed.
i. The Trial Court found that (from a legal standpoint) the Indian tribe never
actually owned the land, so there was no way they could have sold it to
Johnson.
(2) The US Supreme Court affirmed.
5. Issue
(1) Do the Indian tribes have the power of conveying absolute title (exclusive title to
land) of their land to others?
6. Holding and Reasoning
(1) No
(1) No
(2) Discovery/Conquer principle: “Discovery gave an exclusive right to extinguish the
Indian title of occupancy, either by purchase or by conquest.”
i. A European power gains radical title (also known as sovereignty) to the land it
discovers. This concept goes way back to Roman Law which essentially said
"to the victor goes the spoils" 战利品.
ii. As a corollary 推论, the discovering power gains the exclusive right to
extinguish the "right of occupancy" of the indigenous 土生土长的 occupants,
which otherwise survived the assumption of sovereignty.
a) Her Majesty initially have full title of such land(England discover); then title
are transferred to colonies of North America; after declaration of
Independence(1776,07,04) and revolutionary war, treaty of Paris was signed,
UK recognized USA as an independent country, and all land claimed by UK
through discovery was passed to USA government.
(3) The legal result is that the only Native American conveyances of land which
can create valid title are sales of land to the federal government
(1) Marshall opined that when they declared independence from Great Britain, the
United States government inherited the British right of preemption 先占 over
Native American lands.
(4) Native American own possession, not ownership
(1) Native Americans on those lands, retained the right of occupancy/possession
(like tenants in an apartment building), but are not the "owners" of the land.
(2) They don’t have the right to transfer.
(3) A right to exclude (grated from the 1763 proclamation: royal decree 法令 that
prohibited North American colonists from establishing settlements west of the
Proclamation line)
(4) The Native Americans are limited in their ability to sell their occupancy rights
(aka a restriction on alienability). So tribes could sell their limited rights of
occupancy only to the discovering European nation. They can't sell it to private
individuals.
7. Utilitarianism and Labor theory in reasoning
(1) Utilitarianism
a) Promote using of land
a) their lifestyle and personality (fierce savages, gain food from forest) are
quite different from white Europeans (agriculture, cultivate, e.x. Johnson
v. M'Intosh, P9). "To leave them in possession of their country, was to
leave the country a wilderness". Not productive use of land. Europeans
can maximize the utility on this land.
b) Without accepting discovery rule US government cannot function
a) The whole US property-system\ government\society is based on such
principle that American government owes the title of land, so it’s not so
wise to change it in order not to cause a chaos.(perspective of
utilitarianism)
b) If we recognize that native Americans own the title of land, there will be
chaos. the Federal government cannot effectively govern.
c) If Supreme court's opinion is not accepted by government and society,
Supreme court will lose its authority. Then Supreme court was quite
young, it just did not have such authority enough to force (or convince)
people follow its opinion, which is not welcomed
d) The supreme court need to respect the Virginia government
d) The supreme court need to respect the Virginia government
(2) Labor theory
i. labour of native American is not sufficient enough to make land theirs
ii. Native Americans did not mix their labor to improve the land
8. Legal Positivism in Marshall’s opinion (vs. natural law rights)
(1) The nature law is of no importance but the US law matters
(2) Human law is superior to nature law even if it goes against nature ones
(3) Property exists only to the extent that it is recognized by the government.
(4) Marshall rejected natural law at first in his reasoning, and rather he is going to be
focusing on legal positivism, he is going to decide this case based on American law,
the principle of that law is not natural law.
i. “As the right of society, to prescribe 制定 those rules by which property may
be acquired and preserved is not, and cannot be drawn into question; as the
title to lands, especially, is and must be admitted to depend entirely on the law
of the nation in which they lie; it will be necessary, in pursuing this inquiry, to
examine, not singly those principles of abstract justice, which the Creator
of all things has impressed on the mind of his creature man, and which are
admitted to regulate, in a great degree, the rights of civilized nations, whose
perfect independence is acknowledged; but those principles also which our
own government has adopted in the particular case, and given us as the rule
for our decision.”
ii. Marshall wrote this paragraph because he is feeling bad for kicking out native
Americans from the ownership of the land.
1. What is law? Generally, two scopes of law, legal positivism and natural law.
2. Legal positivism:
A. Social fact——how the law came into being? If something has been
positively passed by legislature, government or authority, that thing
becomes law. That thing does not to be morally good to constitute law.
B. what is the source of that law?
3. Natural law:
A. Seeking resort to moral standards and guiding principles to see whether
something qualifies as laws. Only good laws are laws.
B. Those laws passed by the authority but going against natural standards or
fairness do not deserve to be called as laws. 恶法非法
C. Universal, unchanging, higher law, it is discovered by human race
D. e.g. some people disagree with gay marriage, one frequent argument from
them is it goes against natural law (disobey the principle “marriage should
be the combination between man and woman, and heterosexual marriage
can produce and they can have children, but same-sex marriage goes against
it.
9. 90% of property is determined by possession, while the remaining 10% is determined by
context (race/social/history/etc.), power (e.g. the power to give definition to 'possession'),
etc..
(1) Johnson v. M'Intosh is among the remaining 10%
(2) The concept of possession is always effected by power, economic, politic….
10. Significance of Johnson: occupancy theory and the principle of first-in-time——what are
the pros and cons of first-in-time as a standard for determining/allocating property rights?
a) Land ownership comes from the US government.
b) Pros: clear, simple, easy to understand
c) Cons: not entirely fair, injustice. (people who are first may be rich and enjoy more
c) Cons: not entirely fair, injustice. (people who are first may be rich and enjoy more
resources
11. Further discussion, analysis and Hypos
(1) Suppose the US government invades and conquers Mars (ignore any treaties that
would disallow this). The US government discovers Martians roving all over the
planet like nomads. The US government also sets up a court system on Mars and
grants tracts of land to various US citizens. The Martians sue in the US District
Court for the Special Administrative Region of Mars to eject the US citizens. How
would the court rule under Johnson v. M'Intosh?
i. The judgment would be rendered for US citizens. Under Johnson v. M’intosh,
discovery or conquer of an unknown land vests right of ownership into
discoverers or conquerors. And NA only have right of occupancy but do not
have right to transfer.
ii. In this case, the US government invades and conquers Mars. Similarly, the
conqueror, US government have right of ownership. Since US citizens got
grants of the Martian land, they obtained ownership of the land.
(2) Suppose that you are attorney for the state of Delaware. You learn that a Native
American tribe sold and conveyed over 50,000 acres of tribal land to the state in
1805. Citing Johnson, the tribe now argues that the transaction was invalid and sues
to obtain title. How would you advise your client?
i. Native Americans do not have right to transfer. So the transaction was invalid.
The ownership of the land lies in US government.
3: First possession: acquisition by capture. Reading on Twen
2019年8月17日 上午 09:51
1. Facts
Keeble (P) placed duck decoys(圈套) and nets in a decoy pond on his land and sold
the captured ducks for profit. Hickeringill (D) fired guns near Keeble’s land merely to
frighten and drive away the ducks, not to capture them for himself. Keeble brought an
action in trespass on the case and was awarded 20 pounds. Hickeringill appealed.
2. Issue
Can a party recover against another for malicious interference with his ability to use
his land for pleasure and profit?
3. Holding and Rule
A) Yes. A party can recover against another for interfering maliciously with his
ability to use his land for pleasure and profit.
B) The lawful owner of any property holds the right to lawfully utilize his/her
property for profit of his/her trade or livelihood without hinderance or
interference from another party.
4. Reasoning
A) Keeble’s use of his property to capture ducks and sell them for profit was lawful.
A) Keeble’s use of his property to capture ducks and sell them for profit was lawful.
Every man has the right to use his land for his pleasure and profit. An action lies
in all cases where a defendant commits malicious acts interfering with the
profession or livelihood of another.
i. However, if Hickeringill had set up decoys on his own property to capture
them for himself, no action would lie because he has as much liberty in the
use of his land as the plaintiff. (Precedent about the school)
ii. it's fine to make competition, but not about interfering with free trade
B) Even though the Plaintiff did not have title to the ducks, he was using his land in
accordance with the law. Since the Defendant intentionally frightened the ducks
off of the Plaintiff’s property and interfered with the Plaintiff’s lawful use of his
land, the Plaintiff was entitled to damages.
C) Keeble is running a business, which is profitable. It is a trade. Defendant has
interfered with the trade maliciously. It is important to furnish markets with
ducks and promote fair competition.(utilitarian)
D) Notes: This is a property law case, not a torts case. Keeble did not bring this
lawsuit to recover for the value of waterfowl he was unable to capture as a result
of Hickeringill’s actions. The judgment was compensation for Hickeringill’s
interference with the use of his real estate.
5. Discussion
A) Ducks are in plaintiff's land
a) Although the Plaintiff never had actual physical possession of the ducks, the
Plaintiff still had property rights in the ducks because they were on his
property. The Defendant maliciously interfered with the Plaintiff’s
livelihood.
b) Ratione soli or rationae soli is a Latin phrase meaning "according to the
soil" or "by reason of the ownership of the soil." In property law, it is a
justification for assigning property rights to landowners over resources
found on their own land. Traditionally, the doctrine of ratione soli provides
landowners "constructive possession of natural resources on, over, and
under the surface: cujus est solum, ejus est usque ad coelum ad infernos."
c) But the court did not use the Ratione soli argument. Ratione soli argument
have had little, if any, bearing on the final decision in Keeble. The court
focused on the theory of malicious interference with trade.
B) Abuse of right
a) if Hickeringill had set up decoys on his own property to capture them for
himself, no action would lie because he has as much liberty in the use of his
land as the plaintiff. (Precedent about the school)
b) Keeble raise a question: should an otherwise privileged act that causes harm
to another person be legally actionable if the actor's reason for action was to
cause harm?
c) The question involves the doctrine of abuse of right: an owner abuses her
property right when she exercises that right with the subjective intent of
harming someone 见打印材料P32
C) One hypo
a) Plaintiff owns the land where there are a lot of ducks. If even he don’t sell
those ducks for money, as the owner of the land, he still has constructive
possession of those ducks. If the defendant use guns to scare off some
ducks, the plaintiff can sue the defendant?
b) Professor Ho: yes. And I think it will be the same result. But the reasoning
b) Professor Ho: yes. And I think it will be the same result. But the reasoning
will be Ratione soli.
D) Instrumental use of law
a) To achieve some goal, which is good for society
b) e.g. in Pierson case, one argument of the dissent opinion is to encourage fox
hunting. There, the judge use law as a tool to achieve a certain goal. This is
instrumental use of law.
c) 有一个协会叫做American Legal Realists(没有查到)
1) According to ALR, law is just a tool. Facing a case, justices already
have their own understanding and opinions, then, they use rules,
statutes and precedents to justify themselves, which means law is
subjective.
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Practice problems
解释hypo问题的时候,一定要从rule开始
❖ Suppose X is an avid hunter who tracks down a deer on a piece of open hunting land
during the hunting season. The deer is at very close range and just as X is about to
shoot it, another hunter, Y, appears and does so. Who gets the deer? (apply Pierson)
○ Assuming Y shoots the deer and mortally wound it, Y shall get the deer.
○ Under Pierson v. Post, mortally wounding, trapping or intercepting so as to
deprive the animal farae naturae constitute occupancy. In this case, X and Y are
hunting a deer on a piece of open hunting land. Thus, the deer is an animal farae
naturae. X merely pursues the deer, but mere pursuit does not qualify to
constitute occupancy. Assuming Y shoots the deer and mortally wound it, Y
shall get the deer.
❖ Same facts as #1 above, but Y is not a hunter but a fanatical animal lover who at the
last instant frightens the deer away. Does X have any recourse based on Pierson,
Keeble, and/or Ghen?
○ The best case to use here is Keeble (duck case).
○ Pierson (fox) case is irrelevant here because there is no mortal wounding,
trapping, or intercepting in this case.
○ Ghen case is irrelevant because there is no certain custom in this case.
○ Keeble case establishes that one cannot maliciously interfere with another
person’s lawful acquisition of property. In Keeble case, the defendant
intentionally shot away ducks. Similarly, in this case. Y frightens the deer away
which interfere with the hunter’s acts of hunting deer or establishing a trade.
○ However, there still exists some differences between this case and Keeble.
(1) Keeble owned the land, but X is hunting in an open land.
(2) X is an avid hunter. We can assume that he is not hunting for trade, but just
for fun. In Keeble case, the core argument is that one person cannot
maliciously interfere with another person's lawful trade. But in this hypo,
this is no trade.
(3) Time has changed. In Keeble, the court also cares about the duck business,
because we need duck as food, which means there are social benefits in
duck industry. But now Y’s action is for animal protection, it's about
conservation intent, where there are more social benefits than hunting
activity.
(4) The fundamental nature of the disputes are different. In Keeble case, the
defendant maliciously interfere with plaintiff's business, but in the hypo, Y
has no malicious attitude towards X. Y is just trying to save a deer, he don't
has no malicious attitude towards X. Y is just trying to save a deer, he don't
aim to cause harm to X. (intention/goals of parties)
❖ Post shoots at a deer from a location 200 feet away; the shot grazes the deer's ear and
temporarily stuns it. Pierson immediately snatches 抢夺 the deer and puts it in a large
sack. Post arrives on the scene 1 minute later, while the deer is still stunned. Who gets
the deer? (apply Pierson)
○ Arguing for Post: Citing Pierson v. Post, occupancy will be satisfied through
mortal wounding, trapping or intercepting so as to deprive the animal of natural
liberty. Here, Post shot the deer and temporarily stuns it, although it does not
constitute mortal wounding, but it could be argued as a form of interception or
capture which deprived the deer of its natural liberty because the deer was
stunned and continued to be stunned, which meant the deer could not run around.
If something is stunned, it means that the animal stops there and its liberty has
been deprived.
○ Arguing for Pierson: Citing Pierson v. Post, occupancy will be satisfied through
mortal wounding, trapping or intercepting so as to deprive the animal of natural
liberty. It is true that Post shot the deer but it does not completely deprive the
deer of its natural liberty, since deer was only temporarily stunned. Post’s
behavior does not constitute a deprivation of natural liberty. Pierson’s action
truly deprived the deer of its natural liberty, because Pierson is the person who
captured and intercepted the deer because he puts the deer in a large sack.
○ Note: the answer for this case is not completely 100% certain, we can argue for
both sides. But probably Pierson got a stronger point here.
❖ Motivated by environmental concerns, Post nets a wild rabbit, paints "Property of
Post" on it, and then lets it go. Pierson shoots and kills the rabbit. Who gets the rabbit?
(apply Pierson)
○ Pierson gets the rabbit. The fact that Post lets the wild rabbit go means Post
abandons the property. Then the rabbit becomes a wild, unowned animal again.
○ Then the rule of Pierson applies again. Since Pierson shoots and kills the rabbit,
he deprives the rabbit of its liberty, more than mortally wounds it. So Pierson
gets the rabbit.
❖ Post's pig strays away from its pen onto unowned land. Pierson finds the pig, places a
rope around its neck, and leads it back to his own farm. Twenty days later, Post
discovers the pig on Pierson's farm. Who owns the pig? (apply Pierson)
○ Animus revertendi: a Latin phrase that means "With intention to return".
i. It can refer to an animal that is under the care of another, which
distinguishes it from an animal ferae naturae (wild beast). It is a type of
ownership right recognized by property law. 也就是说,如果动物知道回
家,知道自己有主人,那这就不是 ferae naturae
○ Pierson applies to capture of wild animals. Here, Post’s pig is a domesticated
animal. Pierson v. Post does not govern this case. Domesticated animal belongs
to the person who rear it. So Post owns the pig, because this is a domesticated
pig.
○ If the pig is pregnant, and has a little baby pig in Pierson's house, the baby pig is
still Post's pig.
○ 那这里,Post需不需要支付给Pierson钱,因为这段时间内,Post的猪吃了
Pierson的很多粮食?
▪ Professor Ho: if you are Post, you can give some money to Pierson to show
your gratitude, but you are not legally required to give Pierson money.
your gratitude, but you are not legally required to give Pierson money.
▪ But if during the twenty days, the pig caused some damage to Pierson's
property, then Post is liable.
○ Why do we have a different rule for animus revertendi?
▪ Because domesticated animals have already been deprived of their natural
liberty.
▪ Social concerns: Because domesticating wild animals is good, because
human beings eat domesticated animals for living. Usually domesticated
animals are allowed to run free on a farm. If we apply Pierson to
domesticated animals, it will be no good for the industry. Farmer will be
compelled to build fences or big walls to prevent others from taking away
their animals. The social reason here is that we want to promote
domestication. We want to make sure that for people who tame animals,
their properties are protected. (utilitarian)
▪ Labor theory: famers already put a lot of labor in rearing the animals.
Hypotheticals
(1) A sells a video football game that features virtual players. The jersey number, height,
weight, hometown, and playing statistics for each virtual player are the same as a
currently-enrolled college player, but the name and the likeness of the actual player
are not used.
A. Arguing for players:
(1) Citing the majority opinion of White case, A’s behavior constitutes the
violation of actual players’ publicity rights. the common law right of
publicity does not require that appropriations of identity be accomplished
through particular means to be actionable, such as name or likeness.
(2) It is not important how the defendant has appropriated the plaintiff’s
identity, but whether the defendant has done so. In this case, even the name
and the likeness of the actual player are not used, the jersey number, height,
weight, hometown, and playing statistics can be linked to the identity of the
virtual player.
B. Arguing for A:
(1) The first Amendment protects people’s free speech right. Based on cases
like Tiger woods, A created a new video football game. Even if the game
may use some identity information of the actual players, it is a
transformation of other’s information.
(2) Considering social concerns, overprotection will stifle human’s creativity.
(3) This case is different from White case: in white case, you can tell directly
the robot is like White, but in my game, even if I use their information, but
I don't use their likeness and name, people will not directly match my game
to those players. Sometimes the team itself is more famous than each
individual player, I don't use the team's name.
individual player, I don't use the team's name.
C. Note: does A violates the publicity right of individual players or the team as a
whole?
(2) B writes a book about the impact of Martin Luther King, Jr. on the civil rights
movement, which is sold to the public.
◊ Answer: no violation. Reason:
(1) Citing the Eastwood case, it laid out 4 elements that may be pleaded for the
common law right of publicity claim: 1) defendant’s use of plaintiff’s
identity; 2) Appropriation of plaintiff’s name or likeness to defendant’s
advantage, commercially or otherwise; (although the law says about
commercially or otherwise, but in practice, the court focuses on
commercial advantage and selling things, P19 上面); 3) lack of consent;
and 4) resulting injury.
1) (second element) In almost all cases, infringing upon one’s publicity
right requires somebody to appropriate a celebrity’s identity
commercially to sell things. Here, B does not use King’s name to sell
a product. B is using the name to better illustrate history. It is for
education. But if B designs a poster saying “King loves this book, buy
it”, that is another story. Writing a book itself does not qualifies as for
commercial advantage.
2) (fourth element) does this author cause injury to King? To King's
family?
a) if the person bend the truth about King, this may cause injury.
(2) Utilitarian: we will have no book about celebrities
◊ Martin Luther King's lawyer:
▪ Yes, this is violation. Defendant uses my client's name, sells the book for
commercial advantages, and uses my client's fame(because people who like
my client will but this book)
(3) C invents a new dance style which reminds some people of the way Elvis Presley
danced; C is paid to perform the dance on a television show.
A. Answer: no violation of publicity right. Reason:
(1) it is different from White case. Samsung intentionally attempts to use the
robot ad to evoke people of the celebrity. Here, C does not mean to evoke
such things (different goals), C is conducting an artist invention.
(2) Under the First Amendment, C has created something new and conducting
a transformation, so her right of free speech shall be protected. (example:
classic music, some Beethoven’s music evokes you of the Bach’s music
style)
(3) A dance is not a product, the law focused on selling products.
(4) Utilitarian: we will not have artistic invention.
Introduction
1. We've already briefly discussed the right to exclude (or seen its operation) in other
contexts. White, Johnson, how did the right to exclude operate in those cases?
(1) White is entitled to publicity right, so White could exclude others from appropriating
her identity
(2) In Johnson case, M'Intosh has title to the land based on the patent of the US
government, so he can exclude Johnson from interfering with his right of possession
and ownership.
2. One opinion: the right of exclude is all of property law because it contains all other rights
3. Traditionally, under Anglo-American common law, the right to exclude on owned land
was viewed in an absolutist way (e.g., reading on Blackstone on p. 49)
(1) Blackstone: the right of property is "that sole and despotic dominion which one
man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in total exclusion of
the right of any other individual in the universe"
4. Today the right to exclude is no longer absolute - it is subject to many exceptions (e.g.,
public policy, necessity, anti-discrimination laws)
(1) Real property right is not absolute; and "necessity, private or public, may justify
entry upon the lands of another". State v. Shack
5. The right to exclude on owned land is protected namely under trespass law
(1) trespass = unprivileged physical invasion of property possessed by another
(2) The Restatement of Torts reflects the predominant U.S. approach to trespass law
(3) Restatement (Second) of Torts (1965) §158. Liability for Intentional Intrusions on
Land:
A. One is subject to liability to another for trespass, irrespective of whether he
thereby causes harm to any legally protected interest of the other, if he
intentionally
• enters land in the possession of the other, or causes a thing or a third
person to do so, or
• remains on the land, or
• fails to remove from the land a thing which he is under a duty to remove.
(4) In this context, the defendant acts intentionally if he voluntarily enters onto the land.
It is not necessary that he had a subjective intent to trespass or that he otherwise
acted in bad faith.
A. Note: trespass in also a criminal concept. In criminal law, trespass needs act +
intent
(5) Trespass is a strict liability tort - if a defendant voluntarily enters land owned by
someone else, that defendant has committed a trespass (irrespective of his good faith)
unless some exception applies.
(6) An entry made under a privilege is not a trespass.
A. The most common privilege is consent: I enter your land with your content. No
trespass occurs.
B. A privilege also arise from necessity. Generally, non-owners must show:
1) faced two evils, choose the lesser evil;
2) acted to prevent imminent harm;
3) reasonably predicted a direct causal relationship between their act and the
harm averted 避免的;
harm averted 避免的;
4) There is no legal alternative for one to solve the question
○ Animal lovers broke into labs to set the animals free; the attorney of them
defensed that there is necessity exception. No. No immediate danger such
as fire.)
(7) Examples
i. Suppose you rent an upstairs apartment from landlord A. Can A enter your
apartment when you're not there, to show it to someone who is thinking about
buying the apartment building?
○ No. A tenant has a right to possess and exclude landlord from entering the
apartment. However, if the contract signed by the two parties states that
the landlord has the right to show someone the apartment, then such act is
allowed.
ii. What if A enters your apartment during your absence to fix a broken pipe that
has exploded and is flooding water to downstairs units?
○ Not a trespass. A necessity exception.
iii. What if you walk across the apartment complex from the parking lot to your
apartment? Aren't you trespassing, because you don't own the apartment
complex (the landlord owns it)?
○ No trespass. Implied consent exception to trespass. Walk harmoniously
through the common area.
○
Jacque v. Steenberg Homes, Inc. (P50)
1. Facts:
(1) Steenberg sought permission from Jacque to cross his land to deliver a trailer.
Defendant would have otherwise had to move the trailer via a more difficult section
of road and use special equipment to negotiate the curves
(2) Plaintiff denied permission, and defendant ordered his employees to cross P’s land
anyway.
(3) Plaintiff sued for intentional trespass.
2. Issue
(1) May a nominal damage award for intentional trespass support a punitive damage
award?
3. Holding:
(1) Yes.
4. Decision:
(1) The court concluded that punitive damages may be awarded at the court’s discretion,
in order to preserve landowner’s rights to their property. Otherwise, allowing such
acts at only a nominal penalty would set a dangerous precedent. Society has an
interest in punishing and deterring intentional trespassers beyond that of protecting
the interests of the individual landowner.
1. Fact
(1) Defendants, an attorney and health service worker, entered on private property to aid
a migrant farmworker housed there. The owner-employer said he would allow
defendants to meet with the migrant workers they sought, but only in his presence in
defendants to meet with the migrant workers they sought, but only in his presence in
his office. When defendants asserted they had a right to meet alone with the worker,
the owner summoned the police to remove them for trespass.
2. License
(1) So what "rights" did the migrant farm-workers have on Tedesco's land? (since they
walked on the land, crossed the land, etc.) - they have a license.
(2) License: permission to use/enter somebody else’s property.
a) License is temporary
b) The owner can take the license back anytime: I invite you to my house, you
have a license. But you say something stupid to my sister in my house, I ask
you out, which means I take the license back
c) No ownership interest. Lowest level of property interest.
3. Issue
(1) Do ownership rights in real property include the right to bar migrant laborers
working on the property from access to governmental services?
4. Holding:
(1) No trespass. Property rights do not include the right to bar access to
governmental services to migrant workers employed and living on the property.
First, the Court rejects two specific arguments made by Defendants, challenging the
application of the NJ trespass statute to their conduct (see p. 58 for a quote from the NJ
trespass statute)
D's Constitutional arguments
1. First Amendment
a. defendants argued that their First Amendment rights (and the rights of the migrant
workers) were violated, relying on Marsh v. Alabama.
b. Was the farm-worker camp in the Shack case comparable to a company-owned town
or shopping center? Why or why not? (p. 64-e)
c. In Marsh v. Alabama, “it was held that free speech was assured by the First
amendment in a company-owned town which was open to the public and was
indistinguishable from any other town except for the fact that the title to the property
was vested in a private corporation.” Like shopping center.
d. Defendants contended that the migrant camp was equivalent to a company town and
that they therefore had a First Amendment right to enter the property to aid the
laborers.
e. The court rejected Ds' argument and held that the camp was not analogous to a
company town because it was not held open to the public.
f. The character of the property is different. The company-owned town was held
open to the public, while the camp was not, it is purely private. Moreover, Tedesco’s
farm serves no clear public function. The company-owned town has hospitals,
schools, police station and etc., which was for public function.
a) Note: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances.
b) 本来first amendment只对政府有效,但是因为Marsh中it's town open to
public, it's like a public place.
2. Supremacy clause (Article VI, section 2)
a. Supremacy Clause: “This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall
be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under
be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under
the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the
judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of
any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”
a) Supremacy: the status of federal laws and treaties is higher than that of states
laws. If any controversies arise, federal laws and treaties take precedence.
b. Defendants argue that the application of the trespass statute would defeat the purpose
of the federal statutes, under which SCOPE and CRLS are funded. Since federal laws
are supreme to state laws, the trespass law shall be refused.
c. Moreover, the constitutional right to counsel (Sixth Amendment) is supreme to the
trespass issues. In US, every citizen is entitled to a constitutional right to counsel (a
lawyer). Miranda law. Shack argues that he aims to offer legal advices to these
migrant workers.
d. New Jersey Court’s refuse to take so:
i. First, there is no precedents to support these arguments.
ii. Second, the court prefers not to decide this case on constitutional ground. If you
say our state law in unconstitutional, then it will be invalid. We have to make a
new law.
iii. We prefer to use our own state law, our New Jersey Law is sufficient to protect
these migrant workers and it is better, it gives them more protections. Because
US constitutional law only offers minimum protection to citizens. Instead,
many states laws render more protection to its citizens.
1) For example, the US Constitution provides that the government can seize
citizen’s land for public purposes. However, in Florida, the state law
severely limits government’s power to seize citizens’ land. It offers more
protection to land owners.
iv. So the constitutional supremacy argument failed.
Necessity rationale
1. A man’s right in his real property is not absolute. Necessity, private or public, may justify
entry upon the lands of another.
a. One should so use his property as not to injure the rights of others
b. Rights are relative and there must be an accommodation when controversies and
rights meet.
2. Argument for defendants:
a. Tejeras offers medical services, such services are emergent. (after all, legal advices
are not so emergent as medical services);
b. privacy, Shack should talk about legal issue with the worker privately.
3. Argument for Tedesco:
a. Tedesco has already offered an alternative to defendants that such services can be
provided in his office and with his presence.
b. Moreover, Tedesco could argue that the defendants have other alternatives. They
don’t have to go to Tedesco’s camp to offer such services. The defendants can do it
in their own offices since those migrant farmers can go out and accept such services.
the removal of sutures(缝合) is not very urgent.
c. the removal of sutures(缝合) is not very urgent.
Hypos
1. A, B, and C, farmworkers living on Tedesco's property, decide to hold a large birthday
party for their co-worker D. They invite 10 friends from a nearby town, who enter the
property to attend the party.
a. No trespass.
b. Citing shack case, “Representatives of these agencies and organizations may enter
upon the premises to seek out the worker at their living quarters. So, too, the migrant
worker must be allowed to receive visitors there of his own choice, so long as there
is no behavior hurtful to others, and members of the press may not be denied
reasonable access to workers who do not object to seeing them.”
c. "but the employer may not deny the worker his privacy or interfere with his
opportunity to live with dignity and to enjoy associations customary among our
citizens. These rights are too fundamental to be denied on the basis of an interest in
real property and too fragile to be left to the unequal bargaining strength of the
parties." P63
d. In the instant case, as long as the farmworkers’ friends cause no harm to the
landowner’s property, they shall be allowed to visit the farm and attend the party.
e. What about there are 100 visitor? Maybe there is trespass.
2. X owns a vacant apartment building in a large city. A group of homeless people enter the
building through an unlocked door and begin living there as squatters. X discovers the
squatters 2 months later.
(1) Argument for “a group of homeless people”:
i. the building is not locked. It seems like the owner of the building does not care
about people enter it or not. It can be seen as the implied consent.
ii. Using the Shack, the private right is not absolute; it has to serve social values.
In this case, there are two needs:
1) the homeless people need to find suitable shelter because the homeless is a
big problem in the city (e.g. they suffer a lot danger), and they are
disadvantaged people VS. the X’s need is less because he is not even there
and the building is vacated.
2) Just between the needs of both parties, and the Shack protects the social
values and disadvantages of migrant workers. Here the homeless people
values and disadvantages of migrant workers. Here the homeless people
have the same disadvantages. Under the principle of the Shack, the
homeless people have the stronger needs than X.
3) (The necessity cannot be used because it cannot last for a period of time.)
(2) The argument for X
i. the Shack’s principle is quite irrelevant, so we don't need to make a balancing
test
ii. The situation in this case is quite different. In the Shack, there was a contract
between the landowner and migrant workers. The migrant workers are invited
to work as farm workers. They did not come secretly, but in this case, the
homeless people come in secretly against X’s wishes. (the judge will hold this
opinion)
iii. Constitution protect people's land
iv. Even if we use Shack, try to say that the owner's rights are more important more
than homeless people's rights.
(3) Result unclear. But there is trespass. Shack's rule is limited to specific case. and in
Shack, there is contract relationship.
3. M owns the farm that adjoins the Tedesco property. M's farmworkers live on M's
property. N and O, two union organizers, enter M's land in order to convince the
farmworkers to join a union, and thus improve their wages and living conditions.
(1) Argument for N and O: no trespass.
a) Since these two union organizers are visitors to protect migrant worker’s rights
and interests.
b) “We may assume for the present that the employer may regulate their entry or
bar them, at least if the employer’s purpose is not to gain a commercial
advantage for himself”. In this case, M actually intended to gain a commercial
advantage, since migrant workers might unionize to increase their payment and
thus the employers’ costs are raised.
(2) Argument for M: trespass.
a) The two union organizers are not employed by the federal government
b) In Shack, two defendants come for specific needs: medicine, legal. But in this
hypo, N and O are just persuading my workers to do something.
c) "It is not our purpose to open the employer’s premises to the general public if in
fact the employer himself has not done so. We do not say solicitors or peddlers
of all kinds could enter on their own."
d) The entry of unionizers could harm the interests of M since the farmworkers
may unionize together.
e) M's freedom to use his land; property rights are important; M, as an employer,
provides jobs; safety and order concerns(if anyone could come in M's land, this
is unsafe and out of order)
5. If homeless people come to live in Campbell’s vacant house in Harbin during winter:
(1) The court has to considering competing needs of both parties:
a) For homeless people: shelter; place to live; life
b) For Campbell: liability; damage, injure.
(2) It is difficult for the court to decide.
(3) Difference between this hypo and Shack: Shack did not conduct trespass; the
defendants are invited to provide services while the homeless people trespass on
Campbell’s house without permission.
1. Today, we focus on the right to use. two cases and two doctrines: spite fence
doctrine(narrow) and nuisance doctrine(broader).
2. Traditionally, a landowner had broad autonomy to use his land as he wished
3. However, today, there are multiple exceptions to the right to use - but why shouldn't
an owner have the absolute right to determine how his land is used?
(1) Utilitarianism:
i. Unrestricted usage of land may harm others and decrease the utility.
(2) Avoid Conflicts: We can't give an owner absolute right to use because it might
interfere with others’ absolute rights to use their land. So there are conflicts
between property owners. (when there are a lot of conflicts, the land will not be
used productively)
4. So the law has recognized that we have to in some cases limit the right to use. (theme
in property law: you cannot use property that injure somebody else)
5. one broader question: there are two landowners and they each have right to use, their
right to use may conflict. How does law supposed to regulate or resolve this conflict?
Question:
Let’s say O has an FSA and conveys a life estate to A. B enters the property and
begins adversely possessing. If he started his adverse possession prior to the
conveyance to A, he may be able to get an FSA by adverse possession. If B starts
adversely possession after O’s conveyance to A, then he will be adversely possessing
against A only, and generally, most courts will say that if he fulfills the AP
requirements, the most B can get is a life estate PAV, measured in A’s life. But some
courts may still say A gets an FSA. The law varies on state, but generally, if B starts
AP after the conveyance to A, he will he possessing against A only and will be only
eligible for a LEPAV (life estate pur autre vie) measured by A’s life.
1. Definition:
(1) Adverse possession is a doctrine under which a person in possession of land
owned by someone else may acquire valid title to it, so long as certain
common law requirements are met, and the adverse possessor is in possession
for a sufficient period of time, as defined by a statute of limitations.
A. The enjoyment of real property with a claim of right when that
enjoyment is opposed to another person's claim and is continuous,
exclusive, hostile, open, and notorious.
B. In Louisiana, it is the detention or enjoyment of a corporeal thing with
the intent to hold it as one's own." La. Civ. Code art. 3421
1) Note: Louisiana was governed by French, so in Louisiana, it is
common law + civil law
(2) In other words, adverse possession can be described as a forced conveyance.
(3) Adverse possession doesn't run against the government. Generally speaking,
it may be very hard to win a case when a possessor claims adverse possession
of US government's land. (P132, b. 最下面 however, statutes in some
jurisdictions permit adverse possession against land owned by state or local
government if…)
(4) If you establish adverse possession, title is transferred from original owner
to the adverse possessor as of the date of entry, not the end of the statute of
limitations period
A. Prof Ho: It is just how the law works.
(5) For the elements of adverse possession, a handful of jurisdictions also require
that the occupant pay the taxes assessed against the land.
Adverse possession in America
(1) In most states, adverse possession is determined by case law and the precise
phrasing of the ap standards varies somewhat from state to state
(2) In a few states, adverse possession is determined by case law + statute
1. Actual possession
(1) The claimant must physically use the land in the same manner that a
reasonable owner would, given its character, location, and nature.
(2) The type of the land is very important.
2. Exclusive possession
(1) The claimant's possession cannot be shared with the owner or with the
public in general.
i. Note: sometimes, even if the land owner may appear on the land, it is
still OK to establish exclusive possession for a possessor. For example,
the land owner just show up on the land once a year and do nothing, this
would not stop the possessor from establish a excusive possession.
ii. But generally speaking, adverse possessor cannot share his or her
possession with the true owner.
iii. Note 2: use of disputed property by third party may also prevent an
adverse claimant from proving exclusive possession, P103 (c)
3. Open and notorious possession
(1) The claimant's possession must be visible and obvious, so that if the owner
made a reasonable inspection of the land, he would become aware of the
adverse claim.
(2) In other words, an adverse possessor shall possess the land in such a way that
a reasonable owner would be able to tell that there is somebody on the land.
Basically we do not have to prove the true owner actually know for certain
that the adverse possessor is there. The test is that your possession is
sufficiently obvious that if a reasonable person come on and inspected, he
would know that somebody is there.
4. "Adverse and hostile" possession (see reading on TWEN)
(1) The most complicated element. Different jurisdictions have different
approaches to determining if the adverse possessor has satisfied the “adverse
or hostile” element
(2) No permission
a) All states agree that possession authorized by the owner does not meet
a) All states agree that possession authorized by the owner does not meet
this requirement. All jurisdictions require the adverse possessor to show
he did not have permission from the landowner to possess the land.
b) Generally, landowner's silence will be interpreted as no permission, and
the proof burden was laid on landowner to prove that he or she has
offered permission.
(3) In determining whether or not the adverse possessor has satisfied the “adverse
or hostile” element, most states do not focus on the adverse possessor’s state
of mind
A. Majority rule: Objective Test Based on Possession: as long as you
proved actual possession, hostile possession is proved. The courts do not
care the possessor's state of mind.
a) the only thing that matters is if the adverse possessor actually
possessed the land. If the adverse possessor can show actual
possession (remember that actual possession is another element to
be satisfied), the court will consider his possession to be “adverse
or hostile.” actual possession → adverse and hostile possession
B. Good faith approach: in some states, the adverse possessor will only
win if he can show that his possession was in good faith. In other words,
the adverse possessor is an innocent person who genuinely (but
mistakenly) believed the property is his.
a) This is the person who says: “Oops, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry -- I
really thought I owned it, sorry!”
C. Bad faith approach: in some states, the adverse possessor will only win
if he can show that he knew that the occupied property belonged to
someone else and that he intended to dispossess the title holder. (this
view is rare now)
□ This is the person who says: “Haha! I know this property isn’t
mine – I know it’s yours. But I fully intend to make it my property!
Haha! Take that! Haha!”
D. Claim of Right: some states require that the adverse possessor show
that his possession is under a “claim of right” – this basically means that
the adverse possessor intends to take and use the land as his own and
exclude everyone else.
a) The adverse possessor must act like an owner and therefore believe
he’s the owner. Intent here doesn’t need to be proved by any verbal
statements – courts can infer intent from the adverse possessor’s
actions.
b) As mentioned in class, practically speaking, the “claim of right”
test is the same as the “objective test based on possession” (i.e., the
first one in this list).
c) However, there may be certain situations – for example, if the
adverse possessor showed no intent to control the property or was
unclear about the precise boundaries of the property – which may
make it difficult for the adverse possessor to show “claim of right.”
Note: one's true intent is hard to prove.
5. Continuous possession
(1) The claimant's possession must be as continuous as a reasonable owner's
would, given the character, location, and nature of the land.
periodic 周期的/定期的 possession sometimes may be OK, because when
(2) periodic 周期的/定期的 possession sometimes may be OK, because when
determining this element, the character, location and nature of the land shall
be taken into account. We don't necessarily to be on the land every day, it
depends on what kind of land it is. dessert is different from the backyard.
6. For the statutory period
(1) It depends on the state, ranging from 5 to 40 years.
(2) The most common periods are 10, 15, and 20 years.
Fact
Reasoning
1. Adverse or hostile possession
The court’s reasoning: “Their possession was hostile, not in the sense that they
fortified and stood ready to defend it by force of arms—though their posting of "no
trespassing" and "no hunting" signs indicates most strongly a "hostile" possession.
The intent of the Gurwits to possess, occupy, control, use and exercise dominion
over the property satisfies the requirement of hostility.”
2. Actual possession
Rule: The claimant must physically use the land in the same manner that a
reasonable owner would, given its character, location, and nature.
A. “Possession, as we have observed supra, depends upon the nature and
location of the property. The Gurwits lived some distance from the land. It
was not necessary that they occupy or use every foot of the land at every
minute. Their acts of dominion over the property were sufficient to establish
the required possession.”
(1) The character and the nature of the land: wild, undeveloped, woods and
forests.
(2) How a reasonable person would use it: cut wood and use for fire and
clean up the land for farming; camping, hiking; hunting
(3) What Gurwits do: cut firewood, give friends permission to cut firewood
thereon.
(4) Note: If Gurwits choose to preserve the originate nature of the land, for
example, he likes trees so he was reluctant to cut down trees, he wanted
to conserve the land, generally speaking, the court in the US would not
support actual possession, because a reasonable people would not do it.
B. Level, frequency, extent.
(1) How much did he cut firewood? In weight? In quantity? How often did
he cut? The court did not cover this issue——did not analyze the extent
and the level and the frequency of the activities.
(2) Note: in common law, simply putting signs is not enough to establish
actual possession.
3. Open and notorious possession
Rule: The claimant's possession must be visible and obvious, so that if the owner
made a reasonable inspection of the land, he would become aware of the adverse
claim.
A. Court: “Gurwit testified to the fact of his cutting firewood, picking up trash
along the road, cleaning up the brush and trees left by the road widening
project, all in the sight of passersby. No one having an adverse claim to the
property could fail to have noticed that the Gurwits were claiming this
property as their own.”
B. Is a fleeting glimpse enough, or should a court require permanent, visible
evidence of the adverse possessor's presence (e.g., a fence)?
(1) The acts of caring the land cannot be temporary. So a possessor must let
others see and know he constantly and continuously take care of the
land. Only by this way can he achieve open and notorious.
C. Did the Gurwits do anything that provided permanent notice?
(1) Posted “no trespassing” and “no hunting” signs along the road.
(1) Posted “no trespassing” and “no hunting” signs along the road.
D. Two general approaches in U.S. case law: which do you think is better?
(1) O/N met if true owner would have seen adverse possessor engaged in
activities if he/she happened to inspect at some time. (a lower standard)
(2) O/N met if visible traces of adverse possession left behind (eg: signs,
fences, stumps 树桩, footprints, NY requires a higher standard)
◊ No. 1 is better. Actual possession
◊ No. 2 is better. Permanent physical trace. It is stronger, more
obvious.
◊ Gurwit case applies the first one. Court said that Gurwits are doing
activities.
E. Do you think this case is consistent with Zambrotto? P103
(1) Yes. In Zambrotto, the court held using a 5-acre forest tract for
occasional hiking and rattlesnake hunting (recreational use) was actual
possession but not open and notorious procession because the nature and
frequency of the activities are insufficient to put the owners on notice
that their title was being challenged.
(2) This case is different from the facts of Zambrotto. Cleaning bush and
posting signs are sufficient to put the owners on notice that their title
was being challenged. Gurwit even brought machinery into the disputed
land. It’s obvious and easy to be noticed.
4. Exclusive possession
Rule: “Exclusive possession means that the claimant must hold the possession of
the land for himself, as his own, and not for another.” The claimant's possession
cannot be shared with the owner or with the public in general.
A. Gurwit possessed the land only for himself, he did not share it with the true
owner. In this case, Greunder never came to the land.
B. Exclusivity focuses on the real fact. What Gurwit think does not matter.
Whether he knew or did not know the land is his, such issue does not matter.
C. Gurwit only gave his friends permission to use the land, it is not the whole
public, so EP satisified. But if Gurwit gave Greunders permission to pick up
firewood on the land frequently, EP is still broken. Or even if Gurwit refused
Greunder to enter the land and cut firewood, but Gruender still did so,
exclusivity is broken.
5. Continuous possession
A. The claimant's possession must be as continuous as a reasonable owner's
would, given the character, location, and nature of the land.
B. Court: “The Gurwits' possession was as continuous as the nature of the
property would admit. There were no doubt days or weeks when they were
not physically present on the disputed tract, but continuous possession clearly
does not require continuous occupation and use.”
C. But, weren't there days and weeks that the Gurwits were not on the land?
How often would a reasonable owner of such land use it?
(1) The character of land is rural, unfenced and wilders. There were not
need every day. Probably once a year is enough. Because the required
continuity is measured by a reasonable owner's conduct, sporadic 间断发
生的 uses of wild lands are usually deemed continuous. (P103 e)
6. Discussion
A. Recreational purposes P102(b)
(1) In most jurisdictions, activities such as gathering firewood, cutting small
amounts of timber, grazing cattle or other animals are considered
sufficient "actual" possession of wild and undeveloped lands.
(2) The use of land solely for recreational purposes is not considered
actual possession in some states ("hunting, hiking, and riding four-
wheelers" on forest land did not constitute actual possession) P103
(3) But in some states, recreational purpose is OK.
(4) in exam, recreational issue will be clear
B. Environmentalism (P104 Note d)
(1) Before abandoning use of land out of environmental reasons is not
"actual possession"
(2) However, in Meyer v. Law, the court holds that such idea should be
changed
Hypos
Has adverse possession been established in these situations? Assume the statutory
period is 10 years.
1. Suppose the Greunders had collected firewood on the disputed property once each
summer - would the Gurwits’ possession still be considered exclusive? P103
(1) No. exclusivity is broken.
(2) In order for a true owner to interfere with the adverse possessors, generally
speaking, he must also use the land in a way a reasonable owner would, given
the land’s character, nature and location.
(3) The court would say (1) the Greunders came to the property, but that alone
will not destroy exclusivity, the focus is how they use the land (2) cutting
firewood is a reasonable use given its character, nature and location (3)
frequency issue
(4) exclusivity focuses on the real fact. What Gurwit think does not matter. So,
even if Gurwit refused Greunder to enter the land and cut firewood, but
Gruender still did so, exclusivity is broken.
2. What if the Greunders entered the land once a year? Would the Gurwits’
possession still be exclusive?
a. Still exclusive. Visit is different. Most courts would say exclusivity is not
broken because Greunders have just visited the land once a year. The level is
pretty low.
b. But what if 20 times a year? Still exclusive. breaking exclusivity shall take
into account both use and frequency. Just entering a land is not a reasonable
owner would do.
3. What if the Greunders hiked on the land?
a. This is about recreational use. In some jurisdictions, recreational use would
be OK. In other jurisdictions, recreational use is not OK. Historically
speaking, hiking, camping and among others recreational use is not enough.
But later, people has recognized that in some land, recreational use is more
and more common. After all, time changes. (in exam, recreational issue will
be clear) p103
4. If Greunder came to the land in the evening and stealing apples, would it break
exclusivity?
a. First, trespass issue. It might not be trespass, since it is his own land.
a. First, trespass issue. It might not be trespass, since it is his own land.
b. Secondly, picking up apples is a reasonable use considering the land’s nature,
character and location.
c. Third, frequency issue. If he only came once, then exclusivity is not broken.
Frequency requires more than once.
5. A held title to a 200-acre (809,371 square meters) tract of remote and unimproved
desert land, which she never visited. Driving past the land one day, B noticed that
rare and valuable cacti 仙人掌 grew there; B spent 20 minutes digging out 4 small
cacti, which he later sold. Over the next 10 years, he visited the property on 5
more occasions, each time removing a few cacti. B claims title to the tract.
○ Character, location, and nature of the land: remote and unimproved desert
land, very big land.
(1) Actual Possession : The claimant must physically use the land in the same
manner that a reasonable owner would, given its character, location, and
nature.
i. Argument for A: the level of actual possession is low.
ii. Argument for B: this is a remote and unimproved desert land, my
activities are enough.
iii. Citing Gurwits case, the court focus a lot on the type of the land. So the
actual possession is satisfied.
(2) Open and Notorious P: The claimant's possession must be visible and
obvious, so that if the owner made a reasonable inspection of the land, he
would become aware of the adverse claim.
A) A's lawyer: not satisfied.
1) Only a few cacti are removed. Stumps of cacti are not obvious
enough in such a large land.
2) You dig the cacti out and left a hole which is not obvious, because
there is desert, and we all know that the sand is move around
B) B's lawyer: Satisfied.
1) Open and notorious: the owner would know: Digging the cacti is
similar to cutting down the trees.
2) 200-acre land is large, in Gurwits case the land is 76 acres and it is
huge too. The area of land is not necessary in the element of open
and notorious possession.
C) Maybe A's arguments are stronger
(3) Adverse/hostile P: assuming satisfied.
(4) Continuous P: 10 years 6 times. Given desert land, type is ok but level is
low.
i. A's lawyer: Not satisfied. 20 minutes, 5 more times, a few, 100 minutes
for 10 years is not enough to constitute continuous possession.
ii. B's lawyer: Satisfied, because this is desert. But this element is difficult
to determine
iii. Common sense: level is low. Too much interruptions. Not satisfied.
(5) Exclusive P:
i. based on the facts, satisfied. Not sharing with the landowner and the
public in general. (A does not come on the land).
ii. Note: exclusive possession does not care about the mind of the adverse
possessor; the court will generally judge objectively whether the owner
or the general public come to the land.
(6) Statutory P: satisfied. 10 years.
(6) Statutory P: satisfied. 10 years.
(7) In sum, A is more likely to win. Time is too limited to establish adverse
possession.
6. C owned a home in a rural subdivision. D owned the house next door. All
backyards in the subdivision were unfenced and covered by wild grass. Over the
next 10 years, D occasionally watered the wild grass behind his house; he also
mowed it 3 or 4 times each summer. D then discovered that part of the land he had
been watering and mowing (a strip about 20 feet wide - i.e., about 6.1 meters wide)
was actually part of C's original lot. Over the years, C's children had played on this
strip of land on 8 or 9 occasions. D claims title to the strip.
○ Character and nature of the land: rural subdivision. Unfenced backyard,
covered by wild grass. Reasonable owner will water and mow the grass. The
land is behind someone's house. A small piece of land
(1) Actual Possession: satisfied.
i. Because he watered the wild grass behind his house and mowed it 3 or 4
times each summer. Reasonable use, reasonable frequency. (the true
owner would do this)
(2) Open and Notorious P: satisfied
i. Obviously, because wild grass has been cut, and the land is quite small.
(3) Adverse/hostile P: assuming satisfied.
(4) Continuous P: satisfied
i. 3-4 times each summer. (mowing the grass 3-4 times each summer is
enough.)
(5) Statutory P: satisfied. 10 years.
i. Considering controversial elements.
(6) Exclusive P: real problem is here.
i. The fact that it is C’s children but not C does not matter. Because under
law, parents are responsible for their children up to a certain age. Here,
most states will say that C’s children can represent the true owner C. So
the type of person is satisfied, being the true owner.
ii. Reactional act of real owner's children 8/9 times. And it's reasonable for
children to play here
iii. Assume court recognize recreational act, C can argue the exclusivity is
destroyed
iv. Assume court does not recognize recreational act, D can argue that the
exclusivity is not destroyed (however courts is not likely to take this
argument)
v. Next considering the frequency of the activities. Note that true owner’s
one time visiting is not sufficient to break exclusive possession. In this
case, it is 8-9 times. It is enough to break the exclusivity.
(7) Conclusion is that there might be no adverse possession
Comparative Study
1. Adverse Possession in Hong Kong and the Law Reform Commission of Hong
Kong 香港法律改革委员会's Recommended Reforms (Consultation Paper,
December 2012) and the HKSAR Government Response
2. Must show other standards: like in good faith, unfair
3. Register as an adverse possessor.
4. Adverse possession in HK is much harder than that in US.
8: Adverse Possession - Basic Elements (Statutory Approach) - Van
Valkenburgh v. Lutz (NY, 1952) 105-113
2019年9月6日 上午 01:09
Introduction
1. Gurwit represents the majority approach toward adverse possession in the United
States -- i.e., based on case law and common law elements.
2. A minority of states in the U.S. supplement the traditional common law elements for
adverse possession with additional statutory requirements (e.g., Florida,
California, New York)
○ The triangular tract of land: wild natural land with brush and small trees
○ The Lutzes’ activities on the land: remove brush; building a “traveled
way”; clearing much of the triangular parcel; farming + selling vegetables
to neighbors; building a one-room dwelling for his brother; raising
chickens and constructing coops or sheds for them; planting trees.
D. who owned the triangular tract until 1935? And why do you think the owner
never acted to evict the Lutzes?
a) Obviously, we did not know who owned the triangular tract until 1935.
b) It is quite possible that the owner did not never enter the land, or he did not
care about the land.(tax sale)
3. Issue
May title to a parcel vest in an adverse possessor who occupies the parcel under
claim of right, protects the parcel with a substantial enclosure/improves or cultivates
the parcel, and maintains that state of affairs for the statutory period)?
4. Relevant Statute
A. Lutzes case is in accordance with the circumstance in section 40. In this case,
Lutzes claims adverse possession not because there are defects in the deed or
other things, they just claim adverse possession.
B. The requirements in the statute somewhat overlaps with the common law
standard. It is noted that the statute assumes that the disputed land is
undeveloped.
a) “15 years” overlaps with statutory periods.
b) “usually cultivated or improved” overlaps with actual possession. But
more meticulous 小心谨慎的
□ Activities possessing to land, doing something on the land as the true
owner would do.
c) “substantial enclosure” overlaps with open and notorious possession.
□ Enclosure or protected by the fence or by the wall or closed
something and has to be substantial.
□ Nothing is more visible than a fence protecting the property.
d) “actual continued possession” overlaps with continual possession.
e) “under a claim of title” overlaps with adverse possession.
C. The essential elements of proof being
i. Premises are protected by substantial enclosure or are,
ii. (Usually cultivated) or improved. (“cultivated” like growing things,
improving the soil and farming; “improved”: building a house, which
improved the property.)
D. Section 34 does not deal with the adverse possessor. It deals with the person
who intends to recover the land (A). if A wants to recover his property, the
property must be seized from him 15 years before he raised the suit. (New York
is longer than 10 years)
E. To acquire title to real property by adverse possession not found upon a written
instrument, it must be shown by clear and convincing proof that for at least 15
years (statute of limitations) there was an actual occupation under a claim of
title, for it is only the premises so occupied and no others that are deemed have
been adversely.
The Court's Reasoning (Lutzes lost)
1. First, what does Lutz have to show/prove to win the case?
a. Either substantial enclosure or usually cultivated or improved (usually only
modify cultivation)
2. Majority
a. In this case there was no proof offered of any protection of the parcel by
enclosure by Lutz (D), and the proof shows that he did not cultivate the entire
premises claimed. Furthermore, there was no improvement of the land because
the shed thereon, the only structure of any kind involved here, was built by Lutz
(D) with the conceded knowledge that he did not own the land under it. Title to
a parcel may vest in an adverse possessor who occupies the parcel under claim
of right, protects the parcel with an enclosure/improves or cultivates the parcel,
and maintains that state of affairs for the statutory period. In this case, the
elements permitting taking title by adverse possession were not present.
Reversed, judgment directed for Van Valkenburgh
3. Dissent
a. The weight of the evidence establishes Lutz's (D) right to the property in
question by adverse possession. There was a “traveled way” across the property.
Lutz (D) operated a truck farm there of substantial size. The fact that Lutz (D)
knew he had no title to the tract is irrelevant so long as he intended to acquire
title in himself, as he did. Lutz (D) actually occupied the property and title
vested in him.
4. Cultivated or improved
A. The Court first analyzes whether the premises were usually cultivated or
improved (since no evidence of substantial enclosure)
B. Why does the Court emphasize that the boundaries of the cultivated area "are
neither defined nor its location fixed with certainty"? As the attorney for Lutz,
how would you have proven this at trial? (p. 107)
a) One shall know the boundary of the land before he cultivates on the land.
b) You don’t have the confidence and certainty to productively use the land if
you have no idea of the boundary of the land.
c) The defendant cannot prove that they know the boundaries, so the
argument of “usually cultivated” failed.
d) If I were the attorney for Lutz, I might bring a map in court to let Ms. Lutz
mark the boundary in her own view. There is a high possibility that Ms.
Lutz has somewhat idea.
C. How to argue for “usually cultivated or improved”
i. my client has “usually cultivated or improved” the land, this part of statute
contains two elements, 1) my client has actually cultivated and improved
the land; 2) on usual. In the part of cultivation and improvement, there is
no doubt that my client takes actions to cultivate or improved the land, for
example, he used the land as farm to grow vegetables and crops, and
removed brushes. My client has showed he cultivated the land. In terms of
improvement, growing crops and removing brushes also are improving the
land. Also, he built the dwelling on the land that is also an improvement.
Besides, my client cultivated and improved the land as usual, because this
is not one-day activity and he last 1916-1948. In 1928, my client lost his
job and began grew crops, in other words, he began to cultivate the land
full time.
full time.
D. Were the premises improved?
a) Note: Cultivation is different from improvement. Cultivation might refer to
collecting or cutting firewood, farming and likewise. Improvement means
to make the land more valuable, like building a structure on the land.
b) The court said No. since there were unclear evidence. (1) no idea of
boundary (2) there is no evidence suggest hostile possession (3) evidence
does not show the premise was sufficiently improved.
E. The dissent's arguments: There is enough evidence.
i. Beginning at the general point: the dissent states that the majority was
questioning the facts collected by the lower court. The majority shall be
deferential to the lower court’s findings of facts.
ii. Evidence has shown that Lutzes have actually made substantial
improvements on the land. (since 1928, a full-time farmer on the land;
raise chickens, plant fruit trees, build dwelling)
iii. Issues of boundaries: “there is evidence that the cultivated area extended
from the traveled way on one side of the property to a row of logs and
brush—placed by Lutz for the express purpose of marking the farm’s
boundary—at the opposite end of the premise”
Introduction
1. Today's class focuses on some issues in the mechanics, the application of adverse
possession — we will focus primarily on the concept of tacking, as well as other
procedural issues in adverse possession
2. Judicial action is not necessary for an adverse possessor to obtain title
a. If A occupied B's land for the required period and satisfied the adverse possession
elements, A automatically acquires title when the period ends
3. There are two uses of adverse possession, adverse possessor either (1) bring a quiet
title action to confirm his title, or (2) raises the doctrine as a defense to an owner's
lawsuit to recover possession.
4. Lawyer's duty (P125 蓝色框框)
Howard v. Kunto
1. In Washington State. Seattle is very famous for its coffee culture.
2. New Jersey is famous for its shores.
3. Illustrate another justification of adverse possession: correct title defects
1. Purpose
Howard v. Kunto is an important case which illustrates the concept of tacking, as well
as one of the uses of adverse possession - to correct a title defect on behalf of a good
faith owner
faith owner
2. Facts
A. People are on the wrong lands; everyone is on their neighbor’s land but think that
their own.
B. The Kuntos (D) took possession of a summer home under a deed that
unbeknownst to them described the adjoining property. The infection started way
back in 1932. After Howard’s family discovered the mistake, Howard exchanged
title of deeds with Moyer. Thus, Howard (P) obtained a conveyance of the deed
that described the property occupied by the Kuntos (D), then sought and obtained
a judgment quieting title in himself. After all, Howard has a right of property
against Kunto and intends to reject Kunto on the land. In this case, Kunto is using
adverse possession as a defense.
C. Kunto lost in the trial court, for lack of continuity and statutory periods.
i. The fact that Kunto’s physical use of the premise is restricted to summer
occupancy defeats the claim of adverse possession. (continuity failed)
ii. Tacking not allowed. (statutory periods failed. 10 years needed)
D. Kunto appealed and won.
3. Issue
A. Continuity: Is a claim of adverse possession defeated because the physical use of
the premises is restricted to summer occupancy?
B. Tacking: May a person who receives record title to tract A under the mistaken
belief that he has title to tract B (immediately contiguous to tract A) adversely
possess tract B through his and his immediate predecessor's possession?
4. Holding
A. A claim of adverse possession is not defeated if the physical use of the premises
is restricted to summer occupancy since to hold otherwise would ignore the nature
and condition of the property.
B. A person who receives record title to tract A under the mistaken belief that he has
title to tract B (immediately contiguous to tract A) may adversely possess tract B
through his and his immediate predecessor's possession as long as the possessor is
not a wrongdoer or trespasser
5. The Court’s reasoning - Issue of "uninterrupted" and continuity
A. "to constitute adverse possession, there must be actual possession which is
uninterrupted, open and notorious, hostile and exclusive, and under a claim of
right made in good faith for the statutory period" (p. 127) Analysis:
uninterrupted means continuity.
B. Why did the Kuntos's summer occupancy satisfy the requirement of "continuous"
possession (i.e., "uninterrupted" possession)?
i. Nature and condition of the land: vacation beach home near the shore.
ii. A reasonable owner will go to the land only during summers taking into
account of the nature and condition of the land.
iii. Normal use of reasonable owner. Thus summer occupancy satisfied the
continuous possession.
C. How do you think the Court would have ruled if Kuntos (and their predecessors)
had occupied the home for only 6 summers in 10 years?
i. Possibly satisfying the continuity.
ii. A reasonable owner will go to the land only during summers taking into
account of the nature and condition of the land (vacation beach home near
the shore).
iii. A reasonable owner might not spend summer time in a same place every
iii. A reasonable owner might not spend summer time in a same place every
year. And there might be bad weather issue or money issue or family issue.
So six summers are enough.
iv. No definite answer. Depends on the jurisdiction. Some courts might say that
the first situation shows GENERAL CONTINUITY. Even there are some
interruption, but generally it has a beginning, middle and an end. While the
second situation you have concentrated everything in the beginning, the last
four years you don’t come on at all. So you don’t have the general continuity
there. (1) is more possible satisfying continuity than (2). (2) is more
possible satisfying continuity than (3).
1) 最后四年都没有去,会让人觉得你已经“放弃”了这个地方
2) 第2/4/6/8/10,这样更容易构成continuity
D. What if there was no house at all on the lot, but Kuntos (and their predecessors)
camped on the land for 6 weekends each summer?
i. nature and character of the land: by the beach, no lot, unimproved, sandy,
with grass
ii. activity: camping on the land. Reasonable person would do it.
iii. continuity: how often? June to August: 12 weeks. 6/12 may be OK. We
cannot force people to be there for 12 weeks, that will not be a hypothetical
reasonable owner.
1) What about under 6 weeks, maybe three weeks? Three weeks maybe
reasonable, because camping is different from living in a house.
2) Then what about two days? 2 days might be too low. After all, there is
no clear answer.
6. The Court’s reasoning - Issue of Tacking
In order to tack among adverse possessors, what’s the requirement? You have to
satisfy the privity requirement. Then let’s talk privity.
A. Court's vague standard for privity: "some reasonable connection between
successive occupants of real property so as to raise their claim of right above
the status of the wrongdoer or the trespasser" (p. 129)
a) PRIVITY: refers to a transactional relationship between 2 (or more) parties.
b) One party transfers something to the other (transfer of estate)
c) One party enters into agreement with somebody else
d) General standard in US: In tacking context, privity is generally satisfied
when one occupant voluntarily transfers his rights (ownership or possession)
to a successor (via an original deed or will, for example) or if, he purports to
do so.
e) Sometimes, the law will say even there is some mistake in the will, if
purports to do so. In some jurisdictions, you don’t need to do it by will, you
can simply do it orally. The court in this case adopted a very vague standard,
the Kunto standard is the general standard in America.
B. What are the policy reasons for allowing tacking?
i. Unitarianism, more productive use of land. It gives the chain of adverse
i. Unitarianism, more productive use of land. It gives the chain of adverse
possessors a chance to keep the land.
ii. the requirement of privity can protect good faith relationship, otherwise any
trespassers would come forward and ask tacking. (squatter, trespasser v.
property purchaser, P129)
iii. Privity is more formal, the adverse possessor having a deed feels more safe
and more likely to productively use the land. Otherwise, you might not care
that much of the land.
C. Why were the Kuntos allowed to tack? And what's the substantial difference
between the Kuntos and an ordinary trespasser?
Existence of privity, voluntary transfers of possession. In court’s opinion, if you
want to tack, you position has to be better than adverse possessor.
i. Kunto: in good faith investment. (some people might not feel sorry for
Kunto since they argue that Kunto failed to survey the land before he
purchasing the land, but it is noted that ordinary owners do not survey the
entire land before purchasing a land. They did not do due diligence. Some
people might hire a lawyer to check the title, but few people will go to the
land and survey the entire land because it costs money. Additionally, AP
would correct mistakes in title with a relatively low cost.
ii. Kunto: productively using the land. As a court, we want to promote the
productive use of the land. Kunto is honest people, they productively use the
land in good faith, they pay a large number of value, the only unfortunate
thing is that the deed is incorrect, therefore Kunto deserves to be protected.
1. A occupies O's land for 6 years. A then tells his friend B: "You can be here if you
want, but I'm leaving." B occupies the land for 5 more years.
(1) Reasonable connection in Howard case: voluntary transfer of rights
(2) In this hypo, no deed, no clear transfer of anything here. since A's words here can
neither constitute deed or clear transfer
(3) Most courts don’t take it as "contract" because it does not contain a "transfer of
possession", it is just "permission to be here"
(4) Therefore, no reasonable connection.
(5) Note: gift promise can establish reasonable connection, but here A did not say: I
will you give you the land.
○ The argument against B: this is not a really voluntary transfer. Using the Howard
standard, the Howard standard is about some reasonable connection between the
two individuals to raise standards from wrongdoer to trespasser. Based on the
conversation between A and B, there is no transfer. B seems like just trespassers.
Again, A just said, "You can be here if you want, but I'm leaving." It is not a
certain kind of transfer. (right answer)
○ The argument for B: focusing on the Howard standard, the standard is not very
clear. It does not require voluntary transfer. So this may not be a traditional
transfer, such as transfer the property in a deed, but the Howard standard requires
that. A then tells his friend B: "You can be here if you want, but I'm leaving."
Even if it requires voluntary transfer, that is a kind of transfer. It is giving an oral
permission for B to be there. (wrong answer)
2. C occupies O's land for 2 years. C then tries to convey the land to her sister D, but the
2. C occupies O's land for 2 years. C then tries to convey the land to her sister D, but the
deed C uses for this purpose is invalid. D occupies the land for 9 more years.
(1) Allowed. Reasonable connection. Similar to Howard case. Privity exits.
Adverse Possession in Law Practice: Real Estate Transactions (e.g., buying and selling
homes)
1. Seller affidavits - commonly used in the conveyance of real property - the seller makes
certain representations concerning the property
2. There is a commonly-used seller representation on adverse possession
3. E.g., "the Seller has been in open, notorious, adverse and peaceful possession of the
Property and there are no adverse claims to title to the Property, and no other person is
in possession of any part of the Property and the Seller is not aware of any claim to
title or possession of the Property, except as follows: [include EXCEPTIONS if
necessary]."
10: Subsequent Possession -- Finders Law (Armory, Hannah) 172-182
2019年10月16日 下午 09:49
Some questions
1. Why this formulation is incomplete
A. The court only thinks about three people: true owner, chimney sweeper’s boy,
and the goldsmith. Fails to consider the prior possessors.
B. The finder of a jewel has such a property as will enable him to keep it against
anyone but a prior possessor, or the rightful owner.
2. Different from Pierson
a. Pierson dealt with how a person gets possessory rights to unowned things
b. in Armory we are dealing with how someone gets possessory rights to things
already owned by someone else
3. Would it make a difference in Armory if the chimney sweep had stolen the jewel?
a. No. P174(c)
b. The rightful owner still has the most right to the jewel. But between the chimney
sweep and Delamirie, it doesn't matter the chimney had stolen the jewel, he still
technically has a better possession right than Delamirie.
c. In society, if we only protect the rightful owner, the law will disagree with this
for a couple of reasons.
d. If we only protect the rightful owner, this will create disorder in society. This will
lead to a bunch of unlawful acts.
i. O是原主人。A从O那里偷走了一个东西。如果我们不承认A对这个东西拥有的right
高于除了O以外的任何人的话,那么B可以从A那里偷走,C可以从B那里偷走..这样
会产生无穷无尽的案件
4. Who "owned" the jewel? P174
a. Traditionally a rightful owner means the original true owner. Most of the
time, possession is an evidence to ownership. But not always, sometimes you
may own something but you do not possess it. (E.g. Tenant-landlord.)
i. 在这里,虽然首饰店老板possess这个jewel,但是没有ownership
b. Possession can be quite relative.
i. The law of finders says basically a prior possessor has a greater possessory
right than anybody in chain. It is a pretty straight forward rule.
c. Possession can exist in other relationship
i. Possessor can hold property in other relationship like bailment. E.g:
bailment: bailor/bailee; dry cleaner. Airline.
ii. If the chimney sweep keeps the jewel, he becomes a bailment(寄托), he
basically possesses the jewel, he doesn't have title to it. bailor - bailee.
iii. When someone has possessory rights but not ownership, it usually happens
when you transfer possession to someone but not transfer title.
when you transfer possession to someone but not transfer title.
5. Liability to the rightful owner? P174 - Note d
a. Generally, a subsequent possessor's full payment to the finder bars any later
action by the true owner against the possessor
b. However, the true owner can compel the successful finder to transfer the payment
to her
6. The value of a "jewel of the finest water"
a. The Court awarded Armory the value of a "jewel of the finest water" - why might
the Court have ordered the goldsmith to pay the value equivalent to "the jewel of
the finest water"?
b. What is jewel of the finest water? (water - used in jewelry describe quality.)
Water was a standard for assessing the color and transparency of a jewel. a "jewel
of the finest water" has the best quality, and thus the most value.
c. Punishment: a punitive measure for the defendant cheated the chimney sweep
d. Only in this way can the court be 100% sure that the chimney sweep’s rights are
preserved
e. encourage return of the jewelry
f. Note: Some courts may not give full value, instead they say you just pay fair
market value. Even some courts will use less value than fair market value. 因为真
正的主人有可能回来找
Purpose
1. It is a very good common law case.
2. Demonstrate the importance of context when applying rules in finders law
3. Introduces a factual twist - should Peel, as owner of the house where the item was
found, have priority over the finder?
Fact
1. Defendant owned a house, in which he never physically occupied. He bought it in
1938, and in 1940 was requisitioned for quartering soldiers. The plaintiff was a soldier
and found a brooch (decorative jewelry worth a lot of money), in which he turned over
to the police to find the actual owner of the good. The finder found the good under
cobwebs and dirt and in a crevice in his bedroom wall
2. No one claimed the good.
3. Defendant never possessed the land, was never on the land, and the Plaintiff was a
legal occupant in which he found something which was not owned.
Issue
1. Who has the right to the brooch, when neither are the actual owner of the good?
Holding:
1. Plaintiff (finder)
Rule:
1. Rather than having a black and white rule, the courts tend to look at these cases (when
a landowner doesn’t have possession of a good, and a legal occupant finds a lost item)
in light of what the reasonable expectations of the landowner are.(Armory standard)
2. Generally speaking, the lost property goes to the finder
2. Generally speaking, the lost property goes to the finder
3. Exception to the rule is if an employee finds a good, the good is retained to the
employer because the employee is action on behalf of the employer.
4. Another exception: if A finds something in B's private house. As a home owner, B has
constructive possession of all items in your home
5. Another exception is that lost property found under the soil or embedded in the soil
belongs to the landowner
Note
1. Court focuses on the fact that Peel never inhabited the house - but what about the
government requisition?
(1) You can argue that it was unfair for Peel, because he owned the house but the
house was under government requisition.
(2) One possible reason: The court didn’t want to question requisition for policy
concerns. First, requisition is legal, since government compensated the owner.
Second, People were at war and were required to sacrifice.
2. the Court could have ruled that Peel had constructive possession of all lost articles on
his property - but it did not. Why?
a. The court focuses on two key issues: intent and control. In this case, peel had no
knowledge or intent to hold the brooch, nor did he live in or control over the
premises.
3. How did the Court balance the policies of protecting the finder's expectations,
rewarding the finder, encouraging honesty, and protecting the landowner's
expectations?
(1) Peel has very few expectations as to what is inside.
(2) To encourage honest behavior. The only reason Peel knew the brooch was
because the police sent it to him.
4. What if Hannah was a trespasser? Would the outcome of the case have been the same?
(1) No. The object under trespass still belongs to owner. Finders law wants to
discourage trespassing. And trespassers hurt the landowners’ rights.
5. Under the Armory standard, who should have won - Hannah or Peel?
(1) Hannah. Hannah has greater right to the brooch than anyone other than the owner.
You must meet the intent to control.
6. The Court awarded title to the finder - so what bundle of rights did Hannah receive
exactly? P182, e.
(1) Right to use and possess, but he cannot pass the title. He also is bound to return
the object to the original owner.
(2) Hannah is a bailee (受托人).
i. Bailment: a relationship under property law where you deliver possession of
personal property to someone else without conveying title of ownership.
ii. Under the law of bailments, a finder is obligated to (1) keep the chattel safe
ii. Under the law of bailments, a finder is obligated to (1) keep the chattel safe
and (2) return it to the prior possessor on demand
(3) In this case, when a finder discovers a lost item, the law creates a constructive
bailment between the ultimate bailor (the true owner) and the bailee (Hannah).
Hannah is required to use the item in a careful way.
7. Prying Eyes and Fingers P181, Note (d)
(1) A homeowner had constructive possession of all lost, mislaid, or abandoned
property located on the premises
8. Bailment (P182)
(1) Bailments: A bailment is the rightful possession of goods by one who is not
their owner. Bailor - bailee
(2) Duty during custody:
i. Mutual benefit: If the bailment is beneficial to both parties, the bailee must
use reasonable care to protect the bailed object from damage or loss.
1) Example: A hotel which takes guests’ possessions and keeps them in
its safe is liable for lack of ordinary care, such as where it fails to use
reasonable anti-theft measures.
ii. Sole benefit of bailor: If the benefit is solely for the bailor’s benefit, the
bailee is liable only for gross negligence or bad faith. [72]
iii. Sole benefit of bailee: If the bailment is solely for the benefit of the bailee
(i.e., the bailor lends the object to the bailee for the latter’s use), the bailee is
required to use extraordinary care in protecting the goods from loss or
damage (but he is still not an insurer, and is liable only if some degree of
fault is shown). [72]
(3) Contractual limitation: The modern trend is that the parties may change these
rules by contractual provisions. But even by contract, the bailee generally may
not relieve himself from liability for gross negligence. [73 - 74].
(4) Acceptance: Also, for such a provision to be binding, the bailor must know of it
and "accept" it. [73] (Example: P puts his car into a commercial garage run by D.
The claim check asserts that D has no liability for negligence. The provision will
be binding only if D can prove that P knew of and accepted this provision – D
probably cannot make this showing, since P can argue that he regarded the claim
check as merely a receipt.)
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On exam
1. if there is a statute, analyzing the facts based on the statute;
2. if there is not statute, just using the common law rule:
3. First, remember that trespass of finder eliminates all finder law
4. Then, think about employer-Employee relationship
i. If employee find property in course of employment, then property goes to
employer
ii. Whether employee is resting then dose not make difference in most cases
except that employee is getting off work: some courts think that under that
circumstance the property goes to the employee
5. Remember, if the item is embedding or under the soil, then the property usually
goes to the landowner
6. At last, consider 4 categories- what is the nature of this property?
Lost/mislaid/treasure trove/abandon?
i. Treasure trove
a) In some states goes to finder
b) In other states goes to landowner
c) In UK, generally all treasure goes to stat
ii. abandoned property
a) the finder would get the title.
iii. mislaid property
a) goes to owner of the land (the locus in quo)
b) Under circumstance that tenant finds it, property is usually given to tenant
c) Go to the place that the true owner can take his property back
iv. Lost:
a) In most cases finder got it (but not ownership over any prior processor)
b) If lost property is found in a private place like a home, then most court
think it goes to landowner (exception :Hanna)
7. When courts have to choose between two people (e.g. landlord or tenant, employer
or employee) to give a mislaid property, often they choose based on policy
decision: who is more likely to get item back to the original owner.
Lost Property: Finder against other people except the original owner, and a prior possessor
• Exception: in a very private place, like someone's house
○ Exception to the exception: Hannah case (the house owner did not live in that
house)
• Exception: if an employee finds a good, the good is retained to the employer because the
employee is action on behalf of the employer.
• Exception: lost property found under the soil or embedded in the soil belongs to the
landowner
Mislaid Property: Owner of the sight in question has superior rights to the finder
• When courts have to choose between two people (e.g. landlord or tenant, employer or
employee) to give a mislaid property, often they choose based on policy decision: who is
employee) to give a mislaid property, often they choose based on policy decision: who is
more likely to get item back to the original owner.
Abandon Property: The first finder becomes the owner
Treasure Trove
• In the United States, a few states give treasure trove to the finder
• However, as a general rule, most courts hold that items embedded in the soil are the
property of the landowner. Most jurisdictions reject the treasure trove doctrine entirely
and give such property to the owner of the land where it was found
• In UK: state
1. Type of property: mislaid, lost, abandoned, treasure trove
2. Character of the finder: invitee, trespasser, employee, resident owner,
3. Place of the find: home, business, pubic place
Note
Every time the judge use utilitarian theory to justify their opinion, can we say it's an
instrumental use of law?
1. No. sometimes judges use law to justify themselves, and then in order to strengthen their
reasoning, they use utilitarian theory. This is not an instrumental use of law.
2. If their main reasoning is based on utilitarian theory, like this opinion about mislaid/lost
property, it's utilitarian use of law
1. Purpose
(1) This is a classic case that distinguishes between lost and mislaid articles
(2) Lost: Unintentionally and involuntarily saying goodbye to the object.
(3) Mislaid: Knowingly and voluntarily put it somewhere but forget to fetch it.
A) For mislaid property, the general rule is that the mislaid chattel belongs to the
owner of the land, not the finder --- what’s the policy rationale?
B) To deal with mislaid property, the goal is to return it to true owner. By giving
the property to the owner of the land, you increase the chances that the property
may go back to its owner.
2. Fact
A customer in the barber’s shop found pocket-book on the table.
3. Discussing the Court’s Decision
(1) The role of precedent: Lawrence v. State
(2) Elements that distinguish a lost item from a mislaid item: willfully placing the
object somewhere with the intent to return
i. Because the court wants the owner of the property to get back the
property, it regards the item as mislaid.
(3) The Hannah court assumed the brooch was lost, whereas the McAvoy court assumed
the pocketbook was mislaid --- Why?
i. The court always chooses the best and cheapest outcome/result and then it
chooses the category.
ii. Hannah the brooch is not likely to return back to the true owner & want to
encourage honest soldier; the land owner did not control the property; the court
does not want to give it to the land owner.
does not want to give it to the land owner.
iii. Court often uses the classification system it thinks is the best to reach the goal it
wants. In the instant case, the court wants the pocketbook to go to the barber, so
it chooses the rule of mislaid since by applying the rule of loss, the pocketbook
will go to the finder.
iv. This is an instrumental use of law
4. Lost v. Mislaid
(1) The key point is that nobody can get to know for sure whether or not the piece of
property is mislaid or lost.
i. The distinguish between the lost and mislaid is not 100% certain. One is
intentionally, one is unintentionally. That is the only difference. How can we
make 100% sure what the intent was? The only way you can make 100% sure
is asking the true owner. That is not possible.
ii. sometimes it can be 100% certain. When you take the bathroom, and you put
your phone on the small table, we can make 100% sure that it is mislaid;
somebody intentionally put there and forgot. When you take the taxi, if you
find the cellphone on the floor of the taxi, it must be lost because people do not
put their phone on the floor; if on the seat, it is hard to determine
(2) Do the circumstances of a find help prove whether an item was placed there
intentionally or dropped unintentionally?
i. The nature of the chattel—e.g. cash
ii. The location where they are found—e.g. in desk or bar of the barber shop
iii. The money in envelop—e.g. if you find the bag on the floor? Mislaid or floor.
(3) So how the court decides mislaid or lost?
i. Oftentimes courts will, first of all, figure out what result they want to achieve
and then they will choose the particular system that can reach the result.
ii. For courts, the No.1 priority is to make sure the pocketbook is return to the true
owner. So you need to ensure the pocketbook was mislaid in the barber shop.
iii. In Hannah, the brooch was very old and behind on the top of a window-frame.
It is very difficult to return it to the true owner. And the court wanted to honor
the soldier.
(4) Necessary to make a distinction between Lost and Mislaid?
i. For lost property, would not it be easier for true owner to find his/her lost
property if the owner of the place gets the lost property? For example, I lost my
cell phone in a Didi. When I find out about this, it would be easier for me to get
it back when it is kept by the driver of Didi than when it is kept by a passenger
after me.
ii. 确实,在现实生活中,mislaid和lost property的区别并不是很大:不管你是
怎么失去了你的东西,当你发现的时候,都会去你曾经去过的地方去寻
找。对于lost来说,其实交给owner of the place也更方便人找回来。所以现
在一些州已经在慢慢地取消lost和mislaid的区别
iii. 那为什么common law中对于lost property的general rule是要交给finder呢?
因为我们预设,人们找回lost property的可能性要比找回mislaid property的
可能性小
5. Note
(1) If you are defending the court’s decision, what would be you defense for court’s
decision?
a) If you mislaid a certain property, what is the most people do? —you will think
where it will be. try to trace your steps and then if you remember you went to
where it will be. try to trace your steps and then if you remember you went to
the barber shop, you probably will go to the barber shop and check.
b) It is extremely difficult to establish with 100% of certainty whether the item is
mislaid. (100% sure of intent-you can ask the true owner)
c) The criteria should be the promotion of productive use of the property.
(2) What if the shopkeeper had rented his shop from a landlord --- who would have
the best claim to the money --- the shopkeeper or the landlord?
a) Most U.S. courts rule for shopkeeper: If the true owner goes back, probably the
shopkeeper is there. (general rule)
1) If the mislaid property found in house, then it's likely that the tenant got
the money
b) (argument for landlord) Think about the reality of society, people changed the
place a lot. Of course, the landowner will also sell and buy land. But they
change places less often than the shopkeepers. Sometimes if you give it to the
landlord, it is more stable.
(3) Couldn’t we argue that the brooch in Hannah was in fact mislaid? And how do we
know that the pocketbook didn’t simply fall out of a customer’s pocket as he bent
over?
a) The pocketbook is on the table; that sounds like a place where people put
something.
b) And for the brooch, in Hannah case, the nature of property was a jewel and it
was found on the window-frame and there is some dust on the box.
1) The argument for mislaid,
a) based on the circumstances, the things was intentionally put on the
window-frame because it is a good place to hide things;
b) somebody maybe left there and intentionally placed there and
overtimes it collected dust.
2) what is the argument for lost property?
a) It is difficult to argue that the brooch is the lost property because lost
property was unintentional forgotten there.
Haslem v. Lockwood
The court: abandoned property
1. Purpose
(1) Examines rights of finders to abandoned property
(2) General Rule:
i. When property is intentionally abandoned by the original owner (usually
require a showing that the original owner intended to give up ownership of it
and engaged in some kind of action to demonstrate the intent), then the finder
becomes the owner. (it is usually very hard to verify whether the true owner
wants to abandon it.
ii. But sometimes it is clear. (e.g. recycle place))
2. Fact
(1) The horse manure lay scattered along the side of a public highway. P (Haslem)
employed two men to scrape the manure into heaps in the evening for about 2 hours.
On the next morning, the defendant Lockwood removed the heaps to his own land.
3. Issue
(1) If a party finds property comparatively worthless… and greatly increases its value by
his labor and expense, does he lose his rights if he leaves it a reasonable time to
procure the means to take it away, when such a means are necessary for its removal
procure the means to take it away, when such a means are necessary for its removal
4. Holding
(1) No. Leaving for reasonable time to remove it is permitted
5. Discussing the Court’s Decision
(1) Why did Haslem win?
i. Finder law: He was the first to possess the manure;
ii. Labour theory: he labored;
iii. Utilitarian: ruling for Lockwood would frustrate the removal of manure from
the city streets.
iv. A reasonable time for the removal of this manure had not elapsed when D
seized and converted it to his own use.
(2) Why did the Court reject the defendant’s assertion that the manure should be
classified as real property?
i. The manure mixes with dirt on the streets belonging to city. It becomes real
property only when it becomes an important part of the land.
ii. Manure becomes real property only when it serves agricultural purpose. In the
farm, when the manure touches the ground, it became an important part of the
land.
(3) Some scholars have argued that all abandoned items should belong to the
state --- do you agree? Why or why not?
i. There is no right answer.
ii. Most scholars do not really agree with this.
1) Government's burden. If the manure was the property of government,
government needs to remove it.
2) Utilitarian: government is quite inefficient. Giving title to the finder,
economically specking, is better because they is actually taking the
property and immediately putting it back into use in the market. If the
abandon property seems belong to the state, we may not be that really to
actually claim or to find those abandoned items.
6. Note: law of shipwrecks (P188)
(1) Traditionally, either salvage law or finders law applied to shipwrecks
i. Salvage law provides the finder with a reward, but not ownership
ii. Finders law gives the finder ownership of her discovery
(2) In maritime cases, finders law applies only if the shipwreck is abandoned
(3) Under the Abandoned Shipwreck Act of 1987:
i. Abandoned shipwrecks that are "embedded" within the three-mile territorial
limit belong to the United States, which in turn relinquishes title to the
appropriate state
ii. Shipwrecks that are not embedded in this manner are still subject to the
traditional common law rules
1. Purpose
(1) Illustrates the notion that the location and nature of the find can provide reliable
evidence of the owner’s intent (and most U.S. courts agree with this)
2. Fact
(1) State Central Bank is the owner of an airplane. Lindner Aviation is a company for
(1) State Central Bank is the owner of an airplane. Lindner Aviation is a company for
routine annual inspection. Benjamin is an employee of Lindner Aviation. The couple
of the screws holding the panel on the wing were so rusty that Benjamin has to use a
drill to remove them. Benjamin found 2 packets of 20 dollars bills wrapped in
aluminum foil in the wing. The money smelled musty.
3. Holding:
(1) The money goes to the bank, the owner of the airplane
4. Discussing the Court’s Decision
(1) The character of found property is determined by examining all the facts and
circumstances surrounding the find
i. A Test: Money Found Inside a House
ii. Some considerations in determining the attribute of the money: Location within
the house, who’s the owner of the house and for how long, the condition and
age of the money, the age of the house
(2) The Benjamin court methodically examined each possible classification
i. Place and manner of the money suggests property was mislaid: Inside the wing
ii. Money wasn’t abandoned property: Nobody rationally abandons $18,000.
iii. Money wasn’t treasure trove: The bills were not that old, less than 35 years.
(3) The Court also says that “We think that the premises where the money was found is
the airplane, not Lindner Aviation’s hangar where the airplane happened to be
parked when the money was discovered” (p. 190) --- do you think the Court was
justified in this conclusion?
i. The owner of the money will find the owner of the plane. Owner of the money
cannot know which hangar the plane is.
ii. Again, the decision is decided by 'end-focusing'
5. Dissent
(1) The money was abandoned. The finder should get the money.
6. Questions
(1) Do you think it’s better for our society if a court mechanically 机械地,呆板地
applies the common law ends-oriented approach?
i. Even though we have the common law practice system, many times the courts
would simply think of the solutions first and then find the category decision of
the result that they want to achieve.
ii. Indeed, some states have said the common-law approach is a categorical
approach. It is not really helpful, rather we should simply adopt statute.(e.g. in
New York, all property is actually treated as lost property) The latter would be
better.
(2) Embedded property
i. If personal property is found embedded in the soil, most courts in the U.S. will
award it to the landowner (not the finder), unless there is an agreement or
statute to the contrary
(3) Employee finder
i. When an employee finds an object during the course of his employment, the
court usually awards the item to the employer. Because the only reason why
he/she was in the room was because he/she was on duty. (see page 193(e))
ii. What if the maid found the money in the drawer while on her break? Most
court would believe that the employer still keeps the property. Her presence in
that room is based on her employment.)
iii. What if the money was found in the public area of the hotel while she was off
duty?
duty?
1) Most courts hold that the employer still own the money because she was
an employee. Even if in a public area of the workplace, a worker during
his duty hour is required to give the money to the employer, because he is
in the area as an agent.
2) BUT Some courts believe that at that time, she was not an agent for the
hotel. So, as a finder, she can keep the money. The lobby of the hotel-
belongs to the employee, because everyone can enter it.
(4) Lost pets (P192, c)
i. Suppose X finds a lost dog. X cares for it and unsuccessfully tries to find the
owner
ii. Under Armory, X, the finder, gets the dog
(5) Found meteorites 陨石 P193 d
(6) Treasure trove P193
i. In the United States, a few states give treasure trove to the finder
ii. However, as a general rule, most courts hold that items embedded in the soil
are the property of the landowner. Most jurisdictions reject the treasure trove
doctrine entirely and give such property to the owner of the land where it was
found
(7) Finders keepers, losers weepers (P195 Note j)
(8) Statutory approaches P194
○ Lost Property: Finder against other people except the original owner
•Exception: in a very private place, like someone's house
•Exception to the exception: Hannah case (the house owner did not live in
that house)
○ Mislaid Property: Owner of the sight in question has superior rights to the finder
•When courts have to choose between two people (e.g. landlord or tenant,
employer or employee) to give a mislaid property, often they choose based
on policy decision: who is more likely to get item back to the original
owner.
○ Abandon Property: The first finder becomes the owner
○ Treasure Trove
•Some states: finder
•Some states: land owner
•In UK: state
In this class, we will focus on cases dealing with mislaid and abandoned
property, as well as the categorization of chattels more generally.
1. Type of property: mislaid, lost, abandoned, treasure trove
2. Character of the finder: invitee, trespasser, employee, resident owner,
3. Place of the find: home, business, pubic place
Purpose
1. This is a classic case that distinguishes between lost and mislaid articles
2. Lost: Unintentionally and involuntarily saying goodbye to the object.
3. Mislaid: Knowingly and voluntarily put it somewhere but forget to fetch it.
a. For mislaid property, the general rule is that the mislaid chattel belongs
to the owner of the land, not the finder --- what’s the policy rationale?
b. To deal with mislaid property, the goal is to return it to true owner. By
giving the property to the owner of the land, you increase the chances
that the property may go back to its owner.
Fact
A customer in the barber’s shop found pocket-book on the table.
Discussing the Court’s Decision
1. The role of precedent: Lawrence v. State
2. Elements that distinguish a lost item from a mislaid item: willfully placing
the object somewhere with the intent to return
a. Because the court wants the owner of the property to get back the
property, it regards the item as mislaid.
3. The Hannah court assumed the brooch was lost, whereas the McAvoy court
assumed the pocketbook was mislaid --- Why?
a. The court always chooses the best and cheapest outcome/result and then
it chooses the category. Hannah the brooch is not likely to return back to
the true owner & honest soldier; the land owner did not control the
property; the court does not want to give it to the land owner.
b. Court often uses the classification system it thinks is the best to reach the
goal it wants. In the instant case, the court wants the pocketbook to go to
the barber, so it chooses the rule of mislaid since by applying the rule of
loss, the pocketbook will go to the finder.
c. This is an instrumental use of law
4. If you are defending the court’s decision, what would be you defense for
court’s decision?
a. If you mislaid a certain property, what is the most people do? —you will
think where it will be. try to trace your steps and then if you remember
you went to the barber shop, you probably will go to the barber shop and
check.
b. It is extremely difficult to establish with 100% of certainty whether the
item is mislaid. (100% sure of intent-you can ask the true owner)
c. The criteria should be the promotion of productive use of the property.
5. Couldn’t we argue that the brooch in Hannah was in fact mislaid? And how
do we know that the pocketbook didn’t simply fall out of a customer’s pocket
as he bent over?
A. The pocketbook is on the table; that sounds like a place where people put
something.
B. And for the brooch, in Hannah case, the nature of property was a jewel
and it was found on the window-frame and there is some dust on the box.
(1) The argument for mislaid,
a) based on the circumstances, the things was intentionally put on
the window-frame because it is a good place to hide things;
b) somebody maybe left there and intentionally placed there and
overtimes it collected dust.
(2) what is the argument for lost property?
a) It is difficult to argue that the brooch is the lost property because
lost property was unintentional forgotten there.
6. Lost v. Mislaid
A. The key point is that nobody can get to know for sure whether or not the
A. The key point is that nobody can get to know for sure whether or not the
piece of property is mislaid or lost. So how the court decides this?
1) Oftentimes courts will, first of all, figure out what result they want to
achieve and then they will choose the particular system that can
reach the result.
2) For courts, the No.1 priority is to make sure the pocketbook is return
to the true owner. And so you need to ensure the pocketbook was
mislaid in the barber shop.
3) In Hannah, the brooch was very old and behind on the top of a
window-frame. It is very difficult to return it to the true owner. And
the court wanted to honor the soldier.
B. Do the circumstances of a find help prove whether an item was placed
there intentionally or dropped unintentionally?
1) The nature of the chattel—e.g. cash
2) The location where they are found—e.g. in desk or bar of the barber
shop
3) The money in envelop—e.g. if you find the bag on the floor? Mislaid
or floor.
4) The distinguish between the lost and mislaid is not 100% certain.
One is intentionally, one is unintentionally. That is the only
difference. How can we make 100% sure what the intent was? The
only way you can make 100% sure is asking the true owner. That is
not possible.
5) sometimes it can be 100% certain. When you take the bathroom, and
you put your phone on the small table, we can make 100% sure that
it is mislaid; somebody intentionally put there and forgot. When you
take the taxi, if you find the cellphone on the floor of the taxi, it must
be lost because people do not put their phone on the floor; if on the
seat, it is hard to determine
C. Necessary to make a distinction between Lost and Mislaid?
1) For lost property, would not it be easier for true owner to find his/her
lost property if the owner of the place gets the lost property? For
example, I lost my cell phone in a Didi. When I find out about this, it
would be easier for me to get it back when it is kept by the driver of
Didi than when it is kept by a passenger after me.
2) 确实,在现实生活中,mislaid和lost property的区别并不是很
大:不管你是怎么失去了你的东西,当你发现的时候,都会去
你曾经去过的地方去寻找。对于lost来说,其实交给owner of the
place也更方便人找回来。所以现在一些州已经在慢慢地取消lost
和mislaid的区别
3) 那为什么common law中对于lost property的general rule是要交给
finder呢?因为我们预设,人们找回lost property的可能性要比找
回mislaid property的可能性小
回mislaid property的可能性小
7. What if the shopkeeper had rented his shop from a landlord --- who
would have the best claim to the money --- the shopkeeper or the
landlord?
A. Most U.S. courts rule for shopkeeper: If the true owner goes back,
probably the shopkeeper is there. (general rule)
B. (argument for landlord) Think about the reality of society, people
changed the place a lot. Of course, the landowner will also sell and buy
land. But they change places less often than the shopkeepers. Sometimes
if you give it to the landlord, it is more stable.
Haslem v. Lockwood
Purpose
1. Examines rights of finders to abandoned property
2. General Rule: When property is intentionally abandoned by the original
owner (usually require a showing that the original owner intended to give up
ownership of it and engaged in some kind of action to demonstrate the intent),
then the one who finds it becomes the owner. (it is usually very hard to verify
whether the true owner wants to abandon it. But sometimes it is clear. (e.g.
recycle place))
Fact
The horse manure lay scattered along the side of a public highway. P (Haslem)
employed two men to scrape the manure into heaps in the evening for about 2
hours. On the next morning, the defendant Lockwood removed the heaps to his
own land.
2. Why did the Court reject the defendant’s assertion that the manure
should be classified as real property?
A. The manure mixes with dirt on the streets belonging to city. It becomes
real property only when it becomes an important part of the land.
B. Manure becomes real property only when it serves agricultural purpose.
In the farm, when the manure touches the ground, it became an important
part of the land.
part of the land.
3. Some scholars have argued that all abandoned items should belong to the
state --- do you agree? Why or why not?
A. There is no right answer.
B. Most scholars do not really agree with this. ( e.g. people can argue that
the manure was on the government’s street and it should be belong to the
state. And the court would say you want to encourage to remove the
manure, so it is abandoned manure, because if it was the property of
government, government needs to remove it. And we all know, the
government is quite inefficient. It would be better to award title to the
finder. Giving title to the finder, economically specking, is better because
they is actually taking the property and immediately putting it back into
use in the market.
C. Removing the manure performs two services: 1) it make the road more
clean and easy for people to walk, drive. 2) it is going to use the manure
to do something. (e.g. fertilizer)
D. If the abandon property seems belong to the state, we may not be that
really to actually claim or to find those abandoned items.
Purpose
1. We save this case for last because it summarizes many of the themes from
Armory, Hannah, and Haslem.
2. It is a case that demonstrates the problems courts face when categorizing
found items generally.
3. The Benjamin Court proceeds to analyze each of the 4 types of found property
(money): lost, mislaid, abandoned, and treasure trove --- in the end, via
process of elimination, it concludes the item was mislaid
A. Sometimes the location and where you find the item can provide some
evidence of the owner’s intent as to which category the item fits.
4. Illustrates the notion that the location and nature of the find can provide
reliable evidence of the owner’s intent (and most U.S. courts agree with this)
Fact
State Central Bank is the owner of an airplane. Lindner Aviation is a company for
routine annual inspection. Benjamin is an employee of Lindner Aviation. The
couple of the screws holding the panel on the wing were so rusty that Benjamin
has to use a drill (钻子) to remove them. Benjamin found 2 packets of 20 dollars
bills wrapped in aluminum (铝) foil(箔)in the wing. The money smelled musty.
bills wrapped in aluminum (铝) foil(箔)in the wing. The money smelled musty.
3. The Court also says that “We think that the premises where the money
was found is the airplane, not Lindner Aviation’s hangar where the
airplane happened to be parked when the money was discovered” (p.
190) --- do you think the Court was justified in this conclusion?
A. The owner of the money will find the owner of the plane. Owner of the
money cannot know which hangar the plane is.
Dissent
The money was abandoned. The finder should get the money.
Questions
1. Do you think it’s better for our society if a court mechanically 机械地,呆
板地 applies the common law ends-oriented approach?
A. Even though we have the common law practice system, many times the
courts would simply think of the solutions first and then find the category
decision of the result that they want to achieve.
B. Indeed, some states have said the common-law approach is a categorical
approach. It is not really helpful, rather we should simply adopt
statute.(e.g. in New York, all property is actually treated as lost property)
The latter would be better.
Definition of "Gift"
1. A gift is the immediate transfer of property rights from the donor to the donee,
without any payment or other consideration. (American Gift law is mainly common
law)
a) Consideration: consideration is a contract law term: it refers to a benefit that each
party gets or expects to get from a contractual deal
b) The gifted interest can be either a present interest or a future interest (see Gruen)
(P215 Note b)
c) What if the donor is lucid? For example, the donor was drunk and gave B an
expensive watch. When the donor was sober next morning, can he got the watch
back?
- Prof. Ho: No, because by definition a gift must be a *voluntary* transfer - if
a donor is drunk and not lucid, his transfer might not be voluntary.
2. Inter vivos gifts:
a) the ordinary gift of personal property that one living person makes to another.
The donor isn't threatened by impending death
b) Generally, a inter vivos gift cannot be revoked.
1) but note "conditional gifts" (next class - Albinger case) - in some US states,
an inter vivos gift can be made subject to a divesting condition subsequent -
the condition must usually be expressly stated
3. Gift causa mortis:
a) a gift of personal property made by a living person in contemplation of
immediately approaching death.
b) in the real world, often functions as a substitute to a will (given on a deathbed)
c) 见下一节课笔记
4. Testamentary gift: testamentary gift is effective only after the donor dies; it is
usually made by a will. (P218 Note g)
a) It transfers an interest to the donee only in the future when the donor dies.
b) A testamentary gift is valid only if it satisfies the Statute of Wills, which requires
a writing signed by the donor and witnessed by two or more people.
Hypo
A husband says to his wife: "Because I am going to die soon from this terminal cancer and
will not be around to celebrate your birthday, I want to give you your birthday present
now."
1. It’s a inter vivos gift since terminal cancer is not "immediately approaching death"
Hypo
1. O calls P into O's bedroom. Pointing to a gold pen on the desk, O declares: "I give you
my pen."
a) No gift, b/c there is no delivery
2. Pointing to his bedside drawer, O declares, "I want you to have my drawer and
everything inside it." O hands P a key that unlocks the drawer; inside are a diamond
ring and the title to O's car.
a) For the drawer, maybe satisfied. Because O gives the key of the drawer, this is
constructive delivery.
constructive delivery.
b) But for the ring and title to car, since it is easy to use manual delivery to give
them to P, so there is no gift for the ring and title to car, because there is no
manual delivery.
3. O declares, "P, I want you to have my Van Gogh. It's in my office in Rome. Pick it up
whenever you want"
a) Manual delivery? No and not necessary. Too far away.
b) Constructive delivery? No. O does not give the key to his office to P
c) Symbolic delivery? No. there is no document.
d) So, there is no gift
4. Handing P his bank book, O declares, "All the money is now yours!"
a) Manual delivery: all the cash? It depends on how much O has in his bank book
b) Most court: by passing a bank book, this is symbolic delivery
5. Taking 200 shares of Google stock from his safe and handing them to P, O declares,
"I want you to have all of these when I die. Keep them safe."
a) There is manual delivery. But it's is for future, not an immediate transfer. So
there is no gift
6. O lends a book to his neighbor P, who takes it home. Several days later, O finds that
he has a second copy of the book. O calls P and declares: "Keep that book I lent you.
It's yours!"
a) There is a valid gift.
b) No need to re-delivery the gift.
7. A husband says to his wife: "Because I am going to die soon from this terminal cancer
and will not be around to celebrate your birthday, I want to give you your birthday
present now."
a) This is a intro vivos gift
8. O and P are best friends. P borrowed O's Ferrari last month and still has it in his
garage. O wins the lottery and, when O calls P to inform him of his luck, O tells P, "I
want you to have the Ferrari. I give it to you." Is this a valid inter vivos gift?
a) Yes
9. O calls X to his room, and pointing to O's Babe Ruth rookie card, tells X, "I want you
to give this card to P." X then drives across town with the baseball card and gives it to
P. Is this a valid inter vivos gift?
a. Yes
Conditional gifts
• Majority rule: an engagement ring is a special type of gift in the sense that it is given
with an implied condition - marriage. It is revocable if marriage never occurs. If
the condition precedent isn't satisfied, and no inter vivos gift is made. P223 Na
○ Fault rule: the one who makes the marriage unsuccessful cannot get the ring.
But fault is very difficult to determine sometimes, and that's why many courts
do not like it
○ No-fault rule: the donor gets the ring. (Most courts embrace this approach)
• Minority rule: engagement rule is not different from other inter vivos gifts. It is
irrevocable.
○ Montana Supreme Court supports the minority rule
○ Montana district court: majority rule
Effects on society
○ Will the majority's decision here affect how Montana residents approach
engagements?
○ What possible impact could the decision have? Will men give less expensive
engagement rings?
○ Will they delay engagements until they are more certain their relationships will
endure?
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Gift causa mortis
1. Definition
Gift causa mortis is a gift of personal property made by a living person in
contemplation of immediately approaching death. In the real world, it often functions
as a substitute to a will (given on a deathbed) and courts don't like gift causa mortis.
Why ther is judicial disfavor?
○ Courts generally disfavor the gift causa mortis. The main concern is the
potential for fraud: the dead donor is unable to testify about whether any gift
was made.
○ Accordingly, many jurisdictions require that a donee establish a gift causa
mortis by clear and convincing evidence, rather than merely by the usual
preponderance of the evidence.
○ In addition, the delivery requirement is often applied more strictly.
○ Do you agree that the gift causa mortis should be disfavored?
2. Four elements
a. Donative intent
b. Delivery
c. Acceptance
d. The donor's anticipation of imminent death
i. This is the reason why Gift Causa Morits is given, and that is the difference
between that and inter vivos gift
3. Revocation
The donor may revoke it at any time before her death. And It is revoked if the donor
recovers from the illness or disease that led him to give the gift.
a. Modern rule: a gift causa mortis is immediately effective at the time it is
made, but may be revoked depending on future circumstances (e.g., if the
donor recovers). Whether the revocation is automatic or not depends on the
state (P229 Note b)
a) Majority rule: revoked automatically if the donor does not die
b) Minority rule: a donor who survives must expressly choose to revoke; and
delay is dangerous.
□ The Restatement (Second) of Property: a failure to revoke within a
reasonable time after the donor is no longer in apprehension of
imminent death eliminates the right of reversion
imminent death eliminates the right of reversion
(1) Brind rule: Brind represents the obsolete view that a gift causa mortis
becomes effective only if and when the donor dies
a) Advantages: easier for judges to determine
b) Disadvantages: too narrow, may be injustice. The dying man does not care
about how he die, he cares about whether he dies.
Quick hypothetical
O, who is extremely old and frail, says to P: "I want you to have this priceless watch. Take
it." O hands the watch to P. However, 3 months later, O has not died and wants the watch
back. P refuses. Who owns the watch?
1. P owns it, since it is a gift inter vivos ( the gift was not made in contemplation of
impending death)
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Introduction
1. What does it mean to "own" land?
a. In U.S. law, a person does not technically "own" land - it is more accurate
to say that he owns certain legally-enforceable rights concerning the
land , in either the form of an estate or a future interest.
2. Comparative law point:
a. for example, in Hong Kong, if you buy a house or an apartment, is it
accurate to say you "own" the land? What do you actually "own" under
Hong Kong law?
b. if you buy a house in Hong Kong, your only own a lease hold(租赁权).
Government owns the land. In Hong Kong, chief executive gives
constitutional authority to lease land out to people for a short period of
time. 50 or 80, 99 years.
3. The foundation of the modern estates system is this legal recognition of the
rights of present possession and future possession
a. Property ownership, after all, can be divided over time, with one person
having the right to current possession, and another having the right to
obtain possession in the future
b. The best example of this is renting apartment. A tenant has the present right
to possess the apartment, the landlord has a future right. The property rights
are divided based on time.
4. The owner of the right to possess the land now owns the possessory estate, also
called the present estate or simply the estate
a. In other words, a present estate / possessory estate / estate is a legal interest
that entitles its owner to the immediate possession of the land
5. The owner of the right to possess the land in the future owns a future interest in
the land.
a. In other words, a future interest is a legal interest that doesn't currently
entitle its owner to immediate possession, but it may become a present
estate in the future
6. This system of land ownership in the U.S. arose out of the English property law
system
7. FYI: in many civil law countries, title to land cannot be divided into successive
interests, thus, only one person can own a particular parcel at any time. Is this a
better approach?
1. Definition
(1) The duration of a fee tail is determined by the lives of the lineal descendants
of a particular person. The transferor retains a reversion, which will become
possessory if the transferee’s line of lineal descendants expires. Operative
language: "to A and the heirs of his body"
(2) Requires this precise language (words of limitation)
A) The words of purchase "to A" designate the grantee
B) The words of limitation "and the heirs of his body" identify the estate as
a fee tail
C) You cannot say "to A and the children of his body".
(3) Unlike the fee simple, the fee tail (in its original form) is subject to several
restrictions - restrictions that are inherent by the very nature of the fee tail
itself.
2. History in England and Now in US
(1) It is the most important estate for the landed aristocracy in medieval England,
because they could keep the land within the family for generations. England
abolished the fee tail in 1925. Now most states in US have rejected it. Why?
A) It impairs freedom of alienation: Fee tail is not marketable. Lacks
alienability, not free to transfer.
B) It undermines democracy: It is a symbol of feudalism, which controls
destiny of the land.
C) It interferes autonomy of the landowner, and harms efficiency of usage
of land. Utilitarian theory.
D) It hurts wife. Because when the owner dies, only his children can get the
land. His wife cannot get land.
(2) Today the fee tail can be created in only four states: Delaware, Maine,
Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. Why they keep fee tail? Freedom.
Individual's freedom to handle your land.
3. Example: O to A and the heirs of his body
(1) What can A do?
i. A can possess the land right now and for the duration of his life, but he
cannot make any agreements to sell, give or devise the land. In other
word, A’s ability to transfer the land during his lifetime is limited. A can
only alienate his right to possession until his death.
(2) What happens when A dies?
i. When A dies, the land automatically passes to his issue (lineal
descendants e.g. children, grandchildren). A's collateral relatives, like
cousins, cannot have the land when A dies.
ii. Note: Fee tail is not devisable, because it automatically passes to the
lineal heir upon the holder's death. So, you cannot say a son inherit a
land from his dad if his dad has a fee tail.
(3) What does O have?
i. Fee tail ends when the family bloodline dies out. O retains a reversion
(a future interest), which will become possessory if A’s line of lineal
descendants expires. If A’s blood line ever ends, the holder of O’s
reversion (perhaps O, O’s assignee, O’s devisee, or O’s heir) receives a
FSA in the land.
4. Fee tail male
(1) O conveys "to G and the male heirs of her body".
(2) The words of limitation "and the male heirs of her body" describe the estate as
a fee tail male (a form of fee tail which passes only to male lineal
a fee tail male (a form of fee tail which passes only to male lineal
descendants). Therefore, if has two sons and one daughter, upon G's death, the
sons receive the fee tail. The estate would then pass only to the males in the
sons' line of descent.
(3) If G has no son, then the land will go to his nephew or some other male heir?
No! only G’s sons, grandsons…. Nephews cannot get the land.
5. Fee tail special
(1) O conveys "to G and the heirs of her body by R."
(2) The words of limitation "and the heirs of her body by R" identify the estate as
a fee tail special. A fee tail special is created when the transferor wants to
restrict the fee tail only to the descendants of the transferee who are parented
by a particular person. The goal was usually to keep the property within the
immediate family bloodline
6. Fee Tail Today (P328 Note a)
(1) If a person tries to create a fee tail in a state where it has been abolished, the
most common result is that a fee simple arises.
(2) A few states preserve the fee tail for the lifetime of the first holder, but then
provide that it becomes a fee simple when passed to the holder's children.
(3) In the handful of states that still recognize the fee tail, the holder may easily
convert this estate into a fee simple by an inter vivos transter to another
person; this process is called disentailing the tail.
(4) Practice question: in Delaware, a state that permits the fee tail, X is a holder
of a fee tail. He wants to devise the land to his spouse. How? (p. 328(a))
i. Disentail the tail. There are disentail statutes. So you can convert the
estate into fee simple by an inter vivos (living) transfer to another
person.
ii. For example, X can remove the tail by sign a contract with his lawyer. X
gives the land as a gift to the lawyer, so the lawyer has FSA in this land.
Then the lawyer gives the land to X/X's wife?
iii. “the fee tail” is not very popular: No one wants to own the fee tail,
because it is not marketable. And No one wants to by a land in fee tail.
Because once the landowner dies, the land will go automatically back to
his heir.
7. Pride and Prejudice
In Jane Austen's most famous novel, Pride and Prejudice, the Bennets were
frantically trying to find suitable husbands for their five daughters. Mr.
Bennet. Fee tail. His nearest male heir, Mr. Collins.
8. Practice questions: which transfers create a fee tail? (p.329(c))
(1) O conveys "to B and the heirs of his body."
i. Yes. When B dies, the property passes to B’s issues, and when there is
no issue, the property passes to O or his devisees. (reversion)
(2) O devises "to C and her children."
i. No. not the exact words. So, C and her children have FSA
(3) O conveys "to D and the children of his body."
i. NO, not the exact words. So D and D's kids have FSA
(4) O conveys "to E and the heirs of E."
i. Not fee tail. E has FSA. Living people do not have heir.
9. Adverse possession & life estate
(1) O conveys Greenacre to A for life, then to C.
(2) B enters the land when A is alive. Suppose all the elements of adverse
possession are met, what B gets? A life estate pur autre vie or fee simple
absolute?
(3) There is a paragraph about this question in our casebook: “But suppose the
owner holds a lesser interest, such as a life estate. In this case, the successful
adverse possessor receives only what the owner had—a life estate.” (page
adverse possessor receives only what the owner had—a life estate.” (page
132, note B) Is this correct? Does this mean that an adverse possessor can
only get the present estate of a real property? If
(4) Professor Ho:
It depends on the timing. Let’s say O has an FSA and conveys a life estate
to A. B enters the property and begins adversely possessing. If he started his
adverse possession prior to the conveyance to A, he may be able to get an
FSA by adverse possession. If B starts adversely possession after O’s
conveyance to A, then he will be adversely possessing against A only, and
generally, most courts will say that if he fulfills the AP requirements, the most
B can get is a life estate PAV, measured in A’s life. But some courts may
still say A gets an FSA. The law varies on state, but generally, if B starts AP
after the conveyance to A, he will he possessing against A only and will be
only eligible for a LEPAV measured by A’s life.
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1. Definition
(1) An even more inherently limited estate than the fee tail.
(2) Operative language: “O to A for life.”
i. Words of limitation: "for life".
1) But phrases such as "until B dies", "while B is alive", "as long as G
lives" are commonly accepted as long as they demonstrate the
grantor's intent.
2) Today, most jurisdictions assume that a fee simple is intended if
there is any ambiguity in the conveyance.
ii. What can A do? what happens after A dies?
1) A is a “life tenant”. He has the right to possess the land as long as he
lives. After A dies, the land goes back to O. If O dies before A, the
land goes to O's heir/devisee.
2) A can transfer his life estate to B. B has a life estate pur autre vie:
A’s life.
i. If B dies before A, B’s heir and devises continue to hold the
property until A dies. When A dies, no matter it is B or B's heir
on the land, the property goes back to O.
3) A can also convey to B for a term of years.
4) A cannot do anything which could interfere with the return of
property to O and his devises. Waste. Thus he must make reasonable
repairs, not demolish the structure, pay all property taxes, etc. [116]
5) Note: O conveys "to B for the life of C". B has a life estate pur autre
vie.
6) An ordinary life estate is alienable, but not devisable or descendible.
i. Because the estate ends at the holder's death, no interest is left
to transfer. But the grantee who holds a life estate pur autre vie
can devise his estate or allow it to pass by intestate succession
to his heirs.
iii. What does O have?
1) O retains a future interest (a reversion) that becomes possessory
upon the end of A's life estate.
(3) Defeasible: A life estate may be defeasible, just as a fee simple may be. [114]
(Example: O conveys "to A, for so long as she shall remain my widow, then to
my son B." A has a life estate determinable.)
2. Future interests
(1) The future interest is usually a reversion (of grantor) or a remainder (of a
third party)
(2) O conveys "to A for life." The future interest owned by a grantor in this
situation is a reversion. O has reversion.
(3) O conveys "to A for life, then to C." the future interest owned by a third party,
it is a reminder. C has reminder.
3. Can corporations have life estate?
(1) No. O conveys "to Google for life." O retains his fee simple. A life estate
cannot be created in favor of partnerships, corporations, or similar business
entities because they have potentially infinite "lifetimes". Google receives
entities because they have potentially infinite "lifetimes". Google receives
nothing form this conveyance.
(2) But corporations can have life estate pur autre vie. O conveys "to F for life." F
then conveys her interest "to Google, Inc." Google has a life estate measured
by F’s life.
4. Legal life estate & equitable life estate
(1) The ordinary life estate (technically called a legal life estate) is rarely created
now. (why P322)
(2) In trust law, equitable life estate. Trust is a common law creation.
(3) Trustor - trustee - beneficiary
A) A trustee holds legal title to the trust property and manages the assets as a
fiduciary for the benefit of the trust beneficiaries, who hold the equitable
title. The interests of the beneficiaries are usually split into present and
future interests. The equitable life estate is the most frequent type of
present interest.
B) Trustee can be a person, an institution, a corporation, a bank…
C) Fiduciary has fiduciary duty, which is defined by trust deed. fiduciary
duties usually include be loyal, be careful, give other parties information..
D) Beneficiary can sue trustee for breach of fiduciary duty, violation of
contract
(4) A typical trust might provide "O conveys this house to T in trust for the use of
B for life, then to C".
i. T is a trustee who is given the legal FSA of this house.
ii. B and C are the trust beneficiaries. B has an equitable life estate. C has an
equitable remainder (future interest).
iii. B will receive all the income produced by the house during her lifer. And
C will receive the legal FSA upon B's death.
(5) A conveys Sherton Hotel to B in trust for the use of Jack for his life, then to Jill
(Jill is Jack's daughter)
i. For Jack, he has only equitable life estate
ii. B has Fee Simple under trust law, but not under common law(it means
that B cannot do anything B wants to hotel)
iii. When Jack died, then Jill got Fee simple absolute under common law (Jill
has an equitable future interest)
Note: in the face of a question concerning life estate, don’t forget to analyze the
issue of doctrine of waste.
Estate defeasible: an estate that may end upon the occurrence of some future event. It is
subject to the possibility of being prematurely terminated at a future time
➢ for example, if a grantor wanted to add a limitation to a fee simple, the fee simple
would become a defeasible fee simple
➢ remember that all possessory estates (i.e., a fee tail, life estate) can be subject to a
defeasible limitation (e.g., life estate determinable)
Defeasible fee simple
➢ fee simple determinable
➢ fee simple subject to a condition subsequent
➢ fee simple subject to an executory limitation
Defeasible fee simple are often used to make gifts of land to public entities or charitable
institutions.
(4) The fee simple determinable is freely alienable, devisable, and descendible. But the
duration condition continues to apply to any transferee.
✓ Example: O owns Blackacre in fee simple. He sells the property "to A and his
heirs so long as the premises are not used for the sale of alcoholic beverages."
✓ A then purports to convey a fee simple absolute to B, who builds a bar. When
the first alcoholic beverage is sold, B’s interest automatically ends, and the
property reverts to O (or his heirs).
(5) Now, POR is alienable, devisable, descendible in most jurisdictions.
a. At common law, the possibility of reverter was not devisable or assignable. It
could only be transferred by intestate succession.
b. Under the common law, the possibility of reverter could be released to the
holder of the possessory estate. This was permitted because it made the
property more marketable by merging the two interests into an FSA.
(6) O to A, as long as A does not attend law school.
✓ A has FSD.
✓ A conveys his FSD to B. (if B has FSD, the condition still binds A.)
✓ If A dies, B’s FSD turned into FSA.
✓ This is a personal limitation.
(7) O to A, so long as land used for growing vegetables.
✓ If A dies, his FSD convey to his heirs.
✓ The limitation is on the land use, so this limitation continues to bind A’s heirs
(3) Future interest: a right of entry (aka a power of termination). A right of entry can
only be retained by the transferor, or his heirs.
(4) Distinction between FSD and FSCS
a. In FSD, when the limitation is violated, the grantor automatically reverts the
land. In FSCS, if the condition is violated, the ownership of the land did not
automatically transfer to the original owner, O has to enforce his right to retake
possession. If O does not do that, A did not become a trespasser, which means
A’s possession cannot be considered adverse. So A cannot use adverse
possession to get a FSA. O has to enforce his right before A’s possession
becomes adverse.
(5) How does a transferor exercise his right of entry?
a. Traditionally, the transferor would physically re-enter the land and retake
possession through self-help. Today, many states allow the transferor to end
the estate by giving notice to the transferee or by filing a quiet title action.
(6) The FSSC is freely alienable, devisable, descendible. Any transferee is bound
by the condition.
(7) Today ROE is alienable, divisible, and descendible in most jurisdiction.
a. At common law, the right of entry could not be assigned or devised; it could
only be transferred through intestate succession.
(8) Under the common law, the right of entry could be released to the holder of the
possessory estate. This was permitted because it made the property more marketable
by merging the two interests into an FSA.
(9) What if the transferor exercise right of entry long after the breach of condition?
a. Unreasonable delay is not allowed. You give up your ROE if you do not
exercise your ROE in a period of time. Then the transferee has FSA. the length
of the period of time depends on the state. Some states have a certain time, like
20 years. Some states have no certain time, but a case-by-case decision.
(10) Example: "O to A and his heirs provided that the property is used solely for
classical music orchestra performances and classical music orchestra rehearsals."
a. A has a fee simple defeasible rather than a fee simple absolute.
b. A has a fee simple subject to a condition subsequent.
c. O has a future interest called a right of entry. If O is dead, the right goes to O’s
heirs and devisees. (Note: people do not always exercise their right, like
Walmart’s return right)
d. What happens if the property is used for hosting rock music parties?
e. The condition is violated. Sometimes it may not be clear whether condition is
violated or not. What if the property is used for hosting erhu/guqin concert?
Obviously, there is ambiguity. Tip: assuming it happens, then continue your
analysis.
f. if O does not enforce his right of entry, A still enjoys the FSCS.
g. if O enforces his right of entry, then FSCS ends. O (or if O is dead, O’s heirs
or devisees) get the FSA in the land.
Note:
(1) Preference of FSCS when ambiguous. P338
a. When the language is ambiguous, the court will generally construe the estate
as a FSCS instead of FSD, because social policy abhors the forfeiture of
estates because this interferes with marketability. FSCS presents only a limited
risk of forfeiture while FSD results in automatic forfeiture.
b. A few jurisdictions have abolished the FSD and the possibility of reverter. Any
language that would be interpreted as creating either under the common law is
treated as creating a FSSC or right of entry.
(2) Condemnation proceeds P339
a. Suppose B holds a fee simple determinable, C has the possibility of reverter
b. If the city condemns the property, the holder of the fee estate (B) receives all
condemnation proceeds
(3) Waste and the Fee simple defeasible P339
(4) Quick Practice
"O to A for life, but if A becomes a lawyer, then to O."
○ Step 1: “O to A for life”: Life estate
○ Step 2: “but if”: (defeasible): Life estate subject to Condition subsequent
○ O: future interest: right of entry
○ A: Life estate (defeasible) subject to Condition subsequent
Note:
A) W.E. & Jennie Hutton (“H”) owned 40 acres of land
B) Then IL law (followed common law) can only transfer PoR or RoE in 2
ways – interstate succession or disclaimer in favor of the person holding
the defeasible estate
C) 38.5 acres -> Jacqmains (“J”), court doesn’t discuss this land
D) The deed was “this land to be used for school purposes only, otherwise to
revert to grantors herein”
(3) The Court's Reasoning and Hutton's Intent
a. Only where the grantor creates a possibility of reverter will he or his
successors become possessory owners immediately upon the breach of the
deed restriction. A grant of use for an exclusive purpose followed by an
express provision for reverter creates a fee simple determinable and a
possibility of reverter.
b. The deed in this case created such use and therefore the heir held a possibility
of reverter. His conveyance to Mahrenholz's (P) predecessor conveyed this
interest which became possessory, if at all, when the land was no longer used
interest which became possessory, if at all, when the land was no longer used
for classes. Therefore, the trial court erred in dismissing the action. Reversed
and remanded.
c. This case illustrates the difference in theory between the possibility of reverter
created by a fee simple determinable and the right of re-entry created by a fee
simple subject to a condition subsequent. In the former, the breach of condition
precedent automatically terminates the possessory estate. In the latter,
termination is merely a right which must be exercised by the holder. This is
purely an academic distinction as any possessory interest will have to be
formally terminated before the estate holder will abandon the estate.
d. “Only” infers a limited grant. The land is clear to use FSD. “If the
condition is broken, the land reverts to grantors herein” --- the Huttons’
intent is to get the land automatically back.
e. Courts usually prefer FSCS, since it’s less harsh than FSD. But here they
thought the deed is clear, so they grant FSD.
(4) Other Questions for Discussion
A) Role-playing (p. 339(f)): the Huttons arrive at your office in early 1941 and
tell you they want the property to automatically revert to them if it ceases to be
used for school purposes. They want the property to be used for active
teaching of students. As their lawyer, how would you draft the conveyance
deed?
a) W.E. and Jennie Hutton convey the property to the trustee of school
District No. 1 so long as the property is used for a site for the active
teaching of students.
b) W.E. and Jennie Hutton: name, ID number, password number, pinyin..
c) the property: address, area, specific location..
d) the trustee of school District No. 1: name, certification number..
B) "School purpose" -- what if the school board used the property for
administrative offices? Or as a site for school bake sales? (p. 340(g))
i. Court will try to find the intent.
(5) Metropolitan Park District v. Unknown Heirs of Rigney
A) Issue:
i. Whether the lapse of an extensive period of time between the breach of a
fee simple subject to a condition subsequent and the election of forfeiture
extinguishes the condition
ii. Whether a grantee of a FSCS may acquire title by adverse possession
following a breach of the condition subsequent, but prior to a claim of
forfeiture, and if not, whether the lapse of a long period of time between a
breach an election of forfeiture waives or otherwise extinguishes the
condition?
B) Holding
i. Since grantor never exercised right to entry, the district held the title
lawfully. So, there was no adverse possession.
ii. A right of entry holder exercise the right of entry in a reasonable time
(6) Suppose that V, a staunch vegetarian, conveys his restaurant "to M so long as only
vegetarian meals are sold on the premises, but if not then V may re-enter and
reclaim the premises." After several years, M conveys the property to P.
Immediately, P begins to offer special happy hours, during which drinks are served
with complimentary fish nuggets. P also offers a boutique Brazilian wine that
includes traces of beetle larvae. Six years later, P offers to sell the restaurant to your
client. What advice would you give your client? (p. 344(c))
client. What advice would you give your client? (p. 344(c))
a. The original conveyance is unclear, because “so long as” suggests Fee Simple
Determinable, but “may re-enter and reclaim the premises” suggests FSCS.
We can interpret this to FSCS.
b. The condition is that “only vegetarian meals are sold on the premises”.
c. Is P violating the condition?
d. Yes, since fish nuggets and beetle larvae are not vegetables. the fish nugget is
sold as part of the meal because people always go to meal in this restaurant
after the happy hour (after work you can enjoy yourself, sometimes the owner
will provide French fries, peanuts…);
e. No, fish nuggets and beetle larvae are not meals, and fish nuggets are free.
(what is the meaning of the meal? Substantial food, more than slight and
people almost eat every day. E.g. Brazilian wine is just wine, is not meal. The
fish nuggets is not meal and is not vegetable.) (It still sold, if you buy the wine,
you are bond with the fish nuggets which means you actually pay for it.
Nothing is free.)
f. It’s not clear whether there is a breach. It would be bad for client if the breach
had been constituted. There might be a waiver issue here, since the delay has
been 6 years. You have risk of losing FSCS. (Rainie: six years may be
considered as reasonable delay, so waiver is not established.)
g. Stronger arguments: no breach
h. Suggestion:
i. Asking V to disclaim the right of entry or buy it.
ii. Ask P to warrant that the right on the property is complete.
iii. negotiating to Lower the offering price.
iv. asking P do not buy the FSCS.
Question
Can a grantor have both a reversion and a right of entry? Can a grantor have both a
reversion and a possibility of reverter? Consider these examples…
1. "O to A for life, but if A divorces, then to O."
(1) A has a life estate subject to condition subsequent, O has a right of entry.
(2) When A dies, O has the FSA. So you can say O has reversion b/c A will die
someday, this is certain.
(3) So O has reversion and RoE at the same time.
2. "O to A for life so long as A is married."
(1) A has a life estate determinable, O has a possibility of reverter.
(2) When A dies, O has the FSA. So you can say O has reversion.
(3) So O has PoR and reversion at the same time.
3. Some scholars will argue here it is technically correct there is reversion and argues
that reversion is the best future interests you can have and it includes POR and
ROE.
Remainder
1. Remainder is a future interest in a transferee that is:
(1) capable of becoming possessory immediately upon the expiration of the prior
estate, and
(2) does not divest (cut short) any interest in a prior transferee (contrast this with
executory interests)
2. Both types of remainders are freely alienable, devisable, and descendible in all
2. Both types of remainders are freely alienable, devisable, and descendible in all
jurisdictions.
3. The distinction between vested and contingent remainders P352下
4. Example: "O to A for life, then to B."
5. Distinguishing Remainders and Reversions:
(1) "O to A for life, then to B."
(2) "O to A for life, then to O."
6. Two types of reminder: vested remainder and contingent remainder. Generally:
according to the words actually creating it, a vested remainder is certain to become
possessory . A contingent remainder is not.
(1) Vested reminder. A remainder is vested if it is created in an "ascertainable"
person AND it is not subject to a condition precedent other than the natural
termination of the prior estate
A. ascertainable person
Person is ascertainable if he has been born and is identified for sure at the
time of the transfer.
Examples where the remainder-holder is NOT ascertained:
○ O to A for life, then to A's first child. (A doesn't have any children)
unborn children are not ascertainable
○ O to A for life, then to B's heirs. (you cannot have heirs when you are
alive) A person's heirs cannot be ascertained until his death
○ O to A for life, then to A's widow. (because O has no window when he
is alive)
○ O to A for life, then to whoever is teaching Property Law at STL
(could be somebody, but could be nobody, could be two or more
persons )
Examples where the remainder-holder is ascertained:
○ O to A for life, then to B.
○ O to A for life, then to A’s first child. (A has one child named B)
○ O to A for life, then to A’s current Property Law teacher. (A is taking
Property Law right now from Professor X)
note: people prefer to identifying the specific person’s name
B. NO condition precedent
A condition precedent is a condition, other than the ending of the prior
estate, that must be met BEFORE the remainder can become possessory
(recall that vested remainders have no condition precedent)
contrast with condition subsequent, which are events that might divest an
interest AFTER it has become possessory
Example: "O to A for life, then to B if B has reached 21 years of age."
○ "if B has reached 21 years of age" is a condition precedent. So B's
remainder is not vested.
○ Condition precedent must be satisfied before possessory right is
obtained.
○ A: life estate (present estate)
○ B: future interest, remainder (contingent remainder)
○ O: reversion
○ When A dies, B is 11. O has FSA again. Then when B is 21, should O
give land to B again? NO
○
give land to B again? NO
(2) Contingent remainder
1) 见下
7. Three types of vested remainder.
(1) Indefeasibly vested remainder
(2) vested remainder subject to divestment: a remainder that is vested, but is subject to
a condition subsequent
(3) vested remainder subject to open: a remainder that is vested, but held by one or
more living members of a group or class
Technical question:
Is there any functional difference between a contingent remainder with a condition precedent
and a vested remainder subject to divestment?
Comma; and the language "if" "but if"
1. O to A for life, and to B if B becomes a lawyer.
(1) B has a contingent remainder with a condition precedent.
(2) A contingent remainder with a condition precedent often comes without a comma
2. O to A for life, then to B, but if B does not become a lawyer, then to E.
(1) B has a vested remainder subject to divestment.
(2) b) A vested remainder subject to divestment often comes with a comma
Executory Interests
1. Future interest in a transferee that must divest another estate or interest to
become possessory (cutting short the previous interest)
(1) The common law provided that a future interest in a transferee following a
defeasible fee simple could only be an executory interest.
2. If the executory interest divests the transferor, it is a springing executive interest
3. If the executory interest divests the transferee, it is a shifting executive interest
4. Today an executory interest is alienable, devisable, and descendible in all
jurisdictions.
5. Example
(1) "O to A, provided that if A ever allows the farm chickens to run away, then to B."
- A: FSEL
- B: Shifting executive interest
(2) "O to A when she turns 21 years old. (A is 10 at the time of conveyance)
- O: FSA FSEL
- A: Springing executive interest
(3) “O to A for life, then to B five years after A’s death.”
- A: Life state
- O: reversion subject to executory limitation (there is a condition on the
reversion)
- B: Springing executive interest
18: concurrent ownership generally 375-386
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Tenancy in Common
“O conveys the property to A and B (as tenants in common)”
1. Two or more persons own the same property at the same time
2. This tenancy is more common than tenancy than joint tenancy
3. Each tenant in common has an undivided, fractional intertest in the property. But
each tenant in common has the right to use and possess the entire property, even if
his fractional interest is smaller than the interest of others.
(1) But if property is sold or there is rental income, a tenant in common will only get
the x% which corresponds to his/her ownership.
4. Each tenant's interests alienable, inheritable, and devisable
(1) If tenant in common transfers her interest, grantee receives exactly what grantor
owned
(2) Most flexible in the three kinds of concurrent tenancy
5. If the facts does not say exact number, just assume that each cotenant has equal
share
share
6. Presumption of tenancy in common: a tenancy in common, absent express language to
the contrary. P380 (b)
(1) Historically, the common favored the joint tenancy.
Presumption of FSA
Presumption of FSCS (in contrast to FSD)
Presumption of Tenancy in Common (in contrast to Joint Tenancy)
7. Rebuttable presumption of equality: If the conveyance does not specify the size of the
interests, there is a rebuttable presumption that equal shares were intended.
8. Heirs: Apart from a conveyance directly creating a tenancy in common, a tenancy in
common can result from operation of law, including the intestacy statute: if the intestacy
statute specifies that two persons are to take an equal interest as co-heirs, they take as
tenants in common. (Example: A, fee simple owner of Blackacre, dies without a will. His
sole surviving relatives are a son, S, and a daughter, D. The intestacy statute says that
heirs who are children take "equally." S and D will take title to Blackacre as tenants in
common, each holding an undivided one-half interest.)
Joint Tenancy
"O transfers the property to A and B as joint tenants with right of survivorship."
1. Each joint tenant has an undivided right to use and possess the entire property.
(1) Joint tenants are seized per my et per tout.
2. Each joint tenant has a right of survivorship.
(1) If A and B own property as joint tenants, and A dies before B, A's interest
immediately and automatically passes to B. not to A's heirs or devisees.
(2) If A, B, and C has 1/3 as joint tenants. A dies first, B got 1/6 + 1/3 = 1/2. C got 1/6
+ 1/3=1/2.
3. A joint tenancy interest is not inheritable, not devisable.
(1) But a joint tenant can alienate his particular share during his lifetime.
(2) If joint tenants die simultaneously, courts treat their interests as if they own tenants
in common, with each owner deemed to own her proportional share that will be
inherited by heirs or devisees
4. To create, courts traditionally required the "4 unities". If the unity of time, title, or
interest is missing, a tenancy in common is created. Although most states have rejected
this approach and many will now recognize a JT if that is the grantor's intent
(1) Time
(2) Title
(3) Interest
(4) Possession (P376)
5. Joint tenancy can be severed if one of the joint tenants transfers her interest during her
lifetime
(1) The transfer breaks the unities of time and title; the right of survivorship is
destroyed, and the grantee becomes a tenant in common with the other concurrent
owners.
(2) If A and B own property as joint tenants and A transfers conveys her 50% interest
to C, B and C will own the property as tenants in common.
(3) If A, B, and C own property as joint tenants, and A transfers her interest to D, then
D will own a 1/3 interest as a tenant in common while B and C. But B and C still
own their 1/3 interests as joint tenants with each other. When D dies, her property
will go to her heirs or devisees. However, when B dies, her 1/3 interest will go to
will go to her heirs or devisees. However, when B dies, her 1/3 interest will go to
C -- i.e., her 1/3 interest JT interest will pass to C. Then C will own a 2/3 interest as
a tenant in common with D or her heirs or assigns.
6. The use of a straw person. P381 Note c
(1) What should A do if she want to create a joint tenancy with B (suppose A already
had title to the property)?
(2) A convey property to C (straw person)
(3) C convey property to A and B as joint tenants with right of survivorship
(4) Today many jurisdictions have eliminated the need for a straw person and the
grantor may create a joint tenancy by conveying to herself and another person
7. Use joint tenancy as a substitute of will. P381(f)
Discussion
1. Severance - why did the Tenhet court hold that the lease did not sever the joint
tenancy?
(1) Tradition Approach: A lease by a joint tenant to a third person effects a complete
and final severance of the joint tenancy. Such a view is generally based on
traditional form unity rules. Under the traditional approach, lease destroys joint
tenancy.
(2) Another Approach: There is a temporary severance of a joint tenancy during the
period of lease, and if the lessor dies while the lease is still in effect, the joint
tenancy is extinguished. If the term of lease expires before the lessor, then the joint
tenancy is undisturbed because the joint tenants resume their original relation.
(3) Court’s Approach: However, the court followed neither of them. The court held
that severance depends on the intent of joint tenant to terminate the right of
survivorship. In this case, since the court could not find that Johnson intended to
sever the right of survivorship, no severance.
i. “Because a joint tenancy may be created only by express intent, and because
there are alternative and unambiguous means of altering the nature of that
estate, the court held that the lease here did not operate to sever the joint
tenancy.”
Policy arguments in favor of the rule that lease severs joint tenancy: It promotes
the marketability of the land.
Policy arguments against the rule that lease severs joint tenancy: Most average
people of joint tenancy interest may assume that lease has no effect on their rights
of survivorship
Option to Purchase
If Boswell exercises his option before Johnson’s death, the joint tenancy is extinguished, and
he has a tenancy in common. So he can lease the house to others.
19: Doctrine of Partition / Rights & Duties of Co-Tenants
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Partition
1. Any tenant in common or joint tenant has the right to sue for partition of property. A partition
judgment ends the cotenancy and distributes its assets.
2. Two Types of Partition:
a. Partition in Kind (aka Actual Partition; Physical Partition)
i. After partition in kind, cotenancy is over. Everyone gets his own land. If you go to another
one's land, it's trespass to land.
b. Partition by Sale (Sell the property and distribute the proceeds among the parties)
1. Purpose
Illustrates the general approach to co-tenant rights and duties. However, in an interesting departure
from the majority rule, the court here held that a non-ousted tenant may be entitled to an off-setting
credit for the reasonable value of the other co-tenant's exclusive occupancy.
2. Operating, Maintenance, and Improvement Expenses
(1) As a general rule, if you are cotenant, you are responsible for your share in operating expenses
including taxes, mortgage payments, and insurance charges.
A) If you pay more than your share, you can cover your excess by contribution action for money
or partition.
(2) repairs and improvements: many courts hold that co-owners do not contribute to either repairs
or improvements. Policy:
A) Courts don’t want to force tenants to pay for the improvement;
B) It is not their decision to make the repairs and improvement;
C) Courts don’t want to get into business of evaluating the improvement.
(3) If a property is sold or partitioned, a cotenant who makes needed repairs will receive a credit these
costs in a partition; and the cotenant who improves the property receives a credit equal to the
increased marker value produced by the improvement.
3. Majority Rule: No Rent Owed by Co-Tenants in Possession
3. Majority Rule: No Rent Owed by Co-Tenants in Possession
(1) A co-tenant in possession does not owe rent to a co-tenant out of possession. (Absent of ouster ---
An act to exclude.)
A) If there is ouster, then the exclusive tenant need to pay rent to the cotenant who suffer ouster.
B) Exclusive possession does not constitute an ouster
(2) Rationale: in co-tenancies, all the owners have right to occupy property.
A) The son chooses to not occupy the house
B) Occupying the house is the parents' legal rights
(3) What's the basis for this rule, and it is a reasonable majority rule?
i. Yes. Each cotenant has the right to enjoy the whole right of property. Nobody has blocked
the out-of-possession cotenant to enjoy the property. That cotenant can get to the property as
he wishes.
4. Minority rule
(1) Cotenant who has exclusive occupancy has to pay the cotenant who suffer outer
5. The Esteves Approach (New Jersey approach) to Rent Liability
(1) We don't need to follow majority or minority rule. We care about what is fair.
(2) NJ court rejected the Majority view.
a) If the tenant has been in sole possession and demands some contribution to the operative
expenses, “fairness and equity” asks him to give credit for the value of sole occupancy.
b) In the instant case, it’s only fair that parents give a credit for their sole occupancy to their
son.
c) The obligation to present evidence of the reasonable value of the sole occupancy, which
would normally be represented by the rental value of the property, rests on the party who did
not occupy the property.
(3) What's the rationale for the Esteves approach?
a) Consequent fairness of justification.
b) Exclusive possession is not an ouster, but it’s constructive ouster because it casts the same
effect as an ouster
(4) New Jersey view is a modified majority view. In the situation where the exclusive possessor is
asking for operative maintenance expenses from non-possessors, we should give credit to the non-
possessors.
6. Ouster P397
7. Sharing rents and profits P397
20: Marital Property Generally; Tenancy by the Entirety; Defining Marital
Property 398-415
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Marital property
1. The traditional common law approach to marital property is virtually extinct in the
U.S.
2. Today most jurisdictions use the separate property system. Nine states use the
community property system.
A) Similar goals: fair treatment of each spouse, protect spouse + family upon
divorce or death
Death
1. no will - laws on intestate succession (generally, allocate a lot of the decedent's
property to the surviving spouse, with some property going to the children and
decedent's parents)
2. will - follow the will, but almost every state gives surviving spouse an elective
share (forced share) option. This means that the survivor has choice:
a. take under the decedent's will or
b. receive a defined portion of the decedent's estate, usually a 1/3 or 1/2 share.
3. Why gives a forced share option?
4. Can a dying spouse intentionally avoid the forced share by giving her property
away before she dies? In many states, the forced share applies to gifts made for this
purpose.
Divorce
1. At divorce, all community property is divided between the spouses.
2. CA, LA, NM = require equal distribution of community property (1/2 to each)
3. others = adopt the equitable distribution principle
Death
generally, spouses can dispose of ALL their separate property and up to 1/2 of their
community property by will - other 1/2 belongs to the surviving spouse
1. At death, the decedent may devise her half of the community property and all her
separate property as she desires. The other half of the community property belongs
to the surviving spouse. Accordingly, community property states do not provide a
forced share to the survivor.
2. Suppose that H and W own $3,000,000 in community property assets when H dies.
H may devise his $1, 500,000 share, together with any separate property as he
wishes. But suppose H and W retire to a community property state after living for
30 years in separate property state; what happens when W dies?