recipients

"In his final teachings before he physically left this earth, the Buddha foresaw that a
situation would arise in the future where those speaking in his name would pervert his
Doctrine and encourage meat consumption. So here, in this great Nirvana Sutra, he lays
down his last will and testament on the matter: in no circumstances should one eat meat
or fish " nor animal corpses, found in the jungle, for instance " nor even accept from a
donor a meal which contains an abundance of flesh-foods. The very contact of other
food with meat is deemed defiling and requires purification of the food by water. It is
quite evident from all this that the Buddha in no way condoned the eating of meat and
was keen for his monastic and lay followers to abjure the uncompassionate practice of
meat eating and follow the pure path of vegetarian Mahayana. In this, we would be
wise and benevolent to follow him."

'To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana.'
- Buddha

A safe way to transition to veganism here

“Do Vegetarians live longer than the general population? Absolutely! Vegetarians outlast
the general population by perhaps as much as ten healthy years–a whole extra decade on
Earth!”
Michael Greger M.D. see also The China Study
"One is not a great one because one defeats or harms other living beings. One is so
called because one refrains from defeating or harming other living beings."
~ The Buddha

'Especially, nowadays most people crave meat and consume flesh and blood with a second
thought, completely oblivious to all the diseases caused by old meat or harmful meat spirits.
Unhealthy diets and lifestyles can also give rise to tumours, disorders of phlegm, dropsy and
other diseases, causing innumerable deaths...“

...Some people imagine that only the person who physically carried out the killing is creating a
negative karmic effect, and that the person who just gave the orders is not - or, if he is, then
only a little. But you should know that the same karmic result comes to everyone involved...
Each person gets the whole karmic result of killing one animal. It is not as if one act of killing
could be divided up among many people. ”
- Patrul Rinpoche From : Words of My Perfect Teacher

Talk : Vegetarianism by H.H. the 17th Karmapa

'Another thing I've forgotten is that any monastery that belongs to Kamtsang Kagyu, the
monastery kitchen cannot and should not make any food with meat. And if you bring meat and
cook it in the monastery kitchen then that means that you are not taking me as your teacher, you
are not belonging to Karma Kagyu. And there is nothing to discuss about that. That's finished.
That is very important.

You have to think, eating meat is not good, eating meat is dirty and bad for your health —this
kind of way of looking has to be cultivated. It's good for the long life of His Holiness the Dalai
Lama and also for Apo Gaga. You can use my name also. If you want Apo Gaga to live
longer, it's useful not to eat meat. And your own Root Guru and all the great beings, if you
want them to live long, the best method to do is to reduce meat or not eat it.

In the next session, once you make the commitment you should really keep it. If you make the
first commitment very clearly and very strongly, then the second commitment will be good and
the third also good, so the first commitment should be very strong and you should not make the
commitment unless you can really do it and have the mind to do it.'

6 pages of 17th Karmapa talks on Vegetarianism, please click here.

    "The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now
look on the murder of men."
          Leonardo da Vinci

 "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and
every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth,
and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the
breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."  
-Genesis 1:29
"There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature on two wings, but
they are people like unto you."
- The Koran (sacred scripture of Islam)

    "Our task must be to free ourselves . . . by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all
living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty."
    "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as
much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
          Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel Prize 1921

"Love is the eldest and noblest and mightiest of the Gods and the chiefest author and giver of
virtue in life and of happiness and death."
- Plato
"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the 'Universe', a part limited in time and
space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest -
a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us,
restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task
must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all
living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this
completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a
foundation for inner security.”
- Albert Einstein, New York Post, 28 November 1972

"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed
of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
         Pythagoras, mathematician

"Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity
asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes
a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must
take it because it is right.”
- Martin Luther King

"When a man has pity on all living creatures then only is he noble." 
-Buddha
"I do feel that spiritual progress does demand at some stage that we should cease to kill our
fellow creatures for the satisfaction of our bodily wants."

"I abhor vivisection with my whole soul. All the scientific discoveries stained with innocent
blood I count as of no consequence."    -Mahatma Gandhi 

Quote by The Great Dzogchen Yogi, Kyabje Chatral Sangye Dorje Rinpoche

Meat, the sinful food, is not permitted according to the three vows: the vows of individual
liberation, the Bodhisattva vows and the tantric vows.
Thus Buddha stated: “I have never approved, do not approve, and will never approve of a meat
diet.” He declared: “my followers must never eat meat.”
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”
- Martin Luther King

"The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any
more than black people were made for whites or women for men.”
- Alice Walker

"The Gods created certain kinds of beings to replenish our bodies; they are the trees and the
plants and the seeds."
- Plato

Quote by The late Great Drubwang Konchok Norbu Rinpoche (1921-2007)

As practitioners of this precious Dharma, we need to eradicate all non-virtuous deeds in

general, particularly the consumption of meat, as it has the heaviest negative karma. This is
because all the livings beings that we eat are actually our own parents who have been very kind
to us in many lifetimes. Eating meat is a non-virtuous act with such heavy misgivings that the
Buddha Himself also mentioned that consuming the meat of other sentient beings who have
been our parents one lifetime or another is the gravest and most heinous deed to commit.

Tribute to His Eminence Drubwang Konchok Norbu Rinpoche (1921-2007)

'If on the one hand, we chant the [Mani] mantra and on the other hand, we eat the meat of
another sentient being,
then our words and actions do not tally with one another.' — Drubwang Rinpoche
'One of the greatest obstacles to the birth of Bodhicitta
in our minds is our craving for meat.' — Shabkar

Did you know that in a study performed by former World Bank Environmental
adviser Dr. Robert Goodland & Jeff Anhang the percentage of total green house gas
emissions from the live stock sector is closer to 51% of total anthropogenic
GHG emissions? Here is their report which includes aspects in the calculation that the FAO
figure does not 'Livestock and Climate Change'.

Did you also know that in the worlds most comprehensive, largest and longest
ever study on human nutrition, The China Study, by T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D.,
and his son, Thomas M. Campbell. Dr. Campbell is a professor of Nutritional Biochemistry at
Cornell University. The conclusions that cure man from heart disease and most forms of cancer
categorically define man as a raw, plant based, whole food eater.

The book shows how the vegan diet results in better health, longer life and far less disease and
time in hospital.

The promotion of sustainable livestock farming, at such a time when we need to race back from
environmental tipping points we are accelerating towards explained clearly in NASA GISS
head James Hansen's book 'The Storms of my grandchildren'; livestock is clearly, exhaustively
demonstrated as the main weight that is dragging us down towards these points of no return
where so many will come to suffering.

Besides:

'If livestock are responsible for at least 51% of anthropogenic GHG emissions, then mitigation
measures no longer suffice, and broadly avoiding emissions attributable to livestock becomes
critical. For example, improvements in the pasture-raising of livestock can somewhat increase
carbon stores in soil. However, only about 8% of meat is produced from pasture-raised
livestock,2  and there is little land available to increase this amount without causing
deforestation. Further, when livestock are pasture-raised, they emit as much as three times the
amount of methane as do intensively-raised livestock. Moreover, the possibility for mitigation
to increase soil carbon is available for only the first part of the lives of most pasture-raised
livestock, as most are intensively raised and fed crops for the second part of their lives.'
- Robert Goodland invited to present to the FAO at the club of Rome following the
success of the 'Livestock and Climate change' article.

For the full article see the folder 'Goodland & co.' here:
http://www.zumodrive.com/share/4mJcNDEzZT

Still standing on the shoulders of giants:

"People think of animals as if they were vegetables, and that is not right. We have to change the
way people think about animals. I encourage the Tibetan people and all people to move toward
a vegetarian diet that doesn't cause suffering."
- The Dalai Lama
There is no fundamental difference between man and the higher animals in their mental
faculties.… The lower animals, like man, manifestly feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and
misery.
—Charles Darwin, naturalist and author (1809–1882)

"If a man aspires towards a righteous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals."

"Vegetarian food leaves a deep impression on our nature. If the whole world adopts
vegetarianism, it can change the destiny of humankind."
-Albert Einstein

This way of killing animals is heart wrenching.

Such a loss this way of fooling oneself.
How helpless, our parents' dying.
This way of heaping up meat of defilement,
What do you do with so much blood?
How hungry you must be, the way you eat so much meat!
- Milarepa

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century,
all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of 'real food for
real people,' you'd better live real close to a real good hospital.”
- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

The difference in mind between man and the higher animals, great as it is, certainly is one of
degree and not of kind.
—Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
- Bruce Lee: Vegetarian
But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul of the sun and light and of
that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy."
-- Plutarch

"More plant species in the U.S. have been eliminated or threatened by livestock grazing than by
any other cause, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office.”
- George Wuerthner

    "To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerable in the sufferings of
animals than in the sufferings of man. For with the latter it is at least admitted that suffering is
evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal. But thousands of animals are uselessly
butchered every day without a shadow of remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be
thought ridiculous. And that is the unpardonable crime."
        Romain Rolland, author, Nobel Prize 1915
It is only by softening and disguising dead flesh by culinary preparation, that it is rendered
susceptible of mastication or digestion; and that the sight of its bloody juices and raw horror
does not excite intolerable loathing and disgust.
-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

Attaining The Highest Bliss Of Buddhahood That We May Relieve All Beings Of Their
Sufferings

By HH the 100th Ganden Tri Rinpoche

Introduction
At the outset, develop the proper motivation to listen to the Buddha's teachings, preferably, in
tune with Bodhicitta, the aspiration to attain Buddhahood so that one could be of ultimate
benefit to all sentient beings.

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By all that is sacred in our hope for the human race, I conjure those who love happiness and
truth to give a fair trial to the vegetable system!
-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

    "If a group of beings from another planet were to land on Earth -- beings who considered
themselves as superior to you as you feel yourself to be to other animals -- would you concede
them the rights over you that you assume over other animals?"
          George Bernard Shaw, playwright, Nobel Prize 1925
    "What is it that should trace the insuperable line? ...The question is not, Can they reason?
nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?"
        Jeremy Bentham, philosopher

    "In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly
when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought."
          Isaac Bashevis Singer, author, Nobel Prize 1978

Does Eating Meat Create Negative Karma?

Transcribed excerpt from Venerable Tenzin Palmo's Talk “Karma & Rebirth”, held at Kong
Meng San Phor Kark See Monastery on 5th June 2005 :

"And 'killing'. You know? I mean, I do think, yes, in Singapore, we have to think about this.
That you can say, 'Alright, I don't kill anything. I, you know, I don't kill. I live in a town. I
don't need to kill anything.' But, even by taking meat, we are colluding in allowing animals to
be killed. And I think that as Buddhists, people on the spiritual path, we should think about
this. Because if there is no demand, then there will be no cause to kill the animals.

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    "I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human
being."
          Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President

    "You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the
graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."
          Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist

[A]s you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me”
(Matt. 25:35, 40 RSV).

Aware of the suffering caused by the destruction of life, I am committed to cultivating

compassion and learning ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants, and minerals. I am
determined not to kill, not to let others kill, and not to support any act of killing in the world, in
my thinking, and in my way of life.
- Thich Nhat Hanh From: The Heart of Buddha's Teaching, The First Mindfulness Training

  "As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."

   "What I think about vivisection is that if people admit that they have the right to take or
endanger the life of living beings for the benefit of many, there will be no limit to their cruelty."
          Leo Tolstoy author
   

"I know I got it made while the masses of black people are catchin' hell, but as long as they ain't
free, I ain't free."

"I done handcuffed lightning

And throw thunder in jail.
You know I’m bad."
 - Muhamid Ali "the greatest of all time": Vegetarian

    "I cannot fish without falling a little in self-respect...always when I have done I feel it would
have been better if I had not fished."
          Henry David Thoreau, author

    "While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal
conditions on this earth?"
   "Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical
research."
          George Bernard Shaw

    "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are
treated."
    "To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being."
        Mahatma Gandhi, statesman and philosopher

In every country in the world, killing human beings is condemned. The Buddhist precept of
non-killing extends even

further, to include all living beings.

- Venerable Thich Nhat HanFrom Interbeing: Fourteen Guidelines for Engaged Buddhism
(1983)
We must look deeply. When we buy something or consume something, we may be
participating in an act of killing. This precept [non-killing] reflects our determination not to kill,
either directly or indirectly, and also to prevent others from killing.
- Venerable Thich Nhat Han From Touching Peace: Practicing the Art of Mindful Living
(1992)

“Children who grow up getting nutrition from plant foods rather than meats have a tremendous
health advantage. They are less likely to develop weight problems, diabetes, high blood
pressure and some forms of cancer”
-- Dr. Benjamin Spock

     "Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop
harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
        Thomas Edison, inventor

You put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit.  If it eats the rabbit and plays with the
apple, I'll buy you a new car.  ~Harvey Diamond

Think of the fierce energy concentrated in an acorn!  You bury it in the ground, and it explodes
into an oak!  Bury a sheep, and nothing happens but decay. 
~George Bernard Shaw

We don't need to eat anyone who would run, swim, or fly away if he could. 
~James Cromwell
Vegan Ch'an Master Hsu Yun (Xu-yun), at 113 years old in 1952
Whenever possible, a Buddhist should abstain from eating meat. But where vegetables are
plentiful, there is no reason to eat meat.
- Chinese Zen Master Xu-Yun
In Genesis 2:15, God instructed Adam to “till” and “keep” the Garden of Eden, and by
analogy we may see caring for God’s Creation as our sacred task. The typical meat eater’s diet
can require up to 14 times more water and 20 times more energy than that of a vegetarian.
Indeed, current use of land, water, and energy is not sustainable; resource depletion threatens to
cause hardships for humankind this century.

Nothing more strongly arouses our disgust than cannibalism, yet we make the same impression
on Buddhists and vegetarians, for we feed on babies, though not our own. 
~Robert Louis Stevenson

* My refusing to eat flesh occasioned an inconveniency, and I was frequently chided for my
singularity, but, with this lighter repast, I made the greater progress, for greater clearness of
head and quicker comprehension.
-- Benjamin Franklin

The Utopians feel that slaughtering our fellow creatures gradually destroys the sense of
compassion, which is the finest sentiment of which our human nature is capable. --
Thomas More

Vegetarianism serves as the criterion by which we know that the pursuit of moral perfection on
the part of humanity is genuine and sincere.
-- Leo Tolstoy

If he be really and seriously seeking to live a good life, the first thing from which he will
abstain will always be the use of animal food, because ...its use is simply immoral, as it
involves the performance of an act which is contrary to the moral feeling -- killing.
-- Leo Tolstoy

Being a vegetarian makes it easier for us to increase our loving kindness and compassion.
- Venerable Thich Nhat Han From: Udumbara Flowers, Book II
A human can be healthy without killing animals for food. Therefore if he eats meat he
participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral.
-- Leo Tolstoy

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings;
and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from
Sinai.
-- Leo Tolstoy

In all the round world of Utopia there is no meat. There used to be, but now we cannot stand
the thought of slaughterhouses. And it is impossible to find anyone who will hew a dead ox or
pig.I can still remember as a boy the rejoicings over the closing of the last slaughterhouse.
-- H G Wells - A Modern Utopia
Wilbur burst into tears. "I dont want to die," he moaned. "I want to stay alive, right here in my
comfortable manure pile with all my friends. I want to breathe the beautiful air and lie in the
beautiful sun."
~ E. B. White (Charlotte's Web)
"Now I can look at you in peace; I don't eat you any more.”
- Franz Kafka, while admiring fish in an aquarium

"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world to dwell on the subject of too
many babies being born in the second- and third-world nations while virtually ignoring the
over-population of cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of sustenance to
feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat.”
- Jeremy Rifkin, Beyond Beef

"A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he
participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral.”-
Leo Tolstoy
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.”
- Henry David Thoreau

"Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor,
never the tormented.”
- Elie Wiesel

- Carl Lewis, 100m world record holder: Vegan

"The human spirit is not dead. It lives on in secret . . . It has come to believe that compassion,
in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all
living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind.”
- Albert Schweitzer, Nobel Peace Prize address: The Problem of Peace in the World Today

“If man wants freedom why keep birds and animals in cages? Truly man is the king of beasts,
for his brutality exceeds them. We live by the death of others. We are burial places! I have since
an early age abjured the use of meat.”
- Leonardo Da Vinci
"The fate of animals is of greater importance to me than the fear of appearing ridiculous; it is
indissolubly connected with the fate of man.”
- Emile Zola

"I think the evidence is pretty clear. If you look at various characteristics of carnivores versus
herbivores, it doesn't take a genius to see where humans line up.”
- William C. Roberts, Editor in Chief, American Journal of Cardiology [Statement in
support of his view that humans are not physiologically designed to eat meat]

"Life is as dear to a mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain,
just as one wants to live and not die, so do other creatures.”
- The Dalai Lama

1) Rather than encouraging apathy through submissive responses, let us deliver the message
loudly and clearly, that needles killing and suffering is wrong.

2) The eating of meat cannot in any way be considered to be helpful to the practice of the
dharma, neither can the slaughter of animals be considered to be consistent with the Buddhist
teachings of compassion (mettâ, ahimsâ, and karunâ), of loving kindness, or of the nature of
the evocation of the enlightenment-mind. The cruelties associated with the slaughter of the
animal kingdom for human consumption, the pain, fear, and distress suffered by the animals in
the entire process of being fattened for butchering, as well as the environmental disasters
wreaked upon our planet through the meat industry, are very well documented, and should be
understood by all who claim to be developing bodhicitta, or who wish to.

3) Meat eating and a compassionate religion do not go hand in hand.

- Bodo Balsys

Why People Must Be Vegetarian

"A fully divine person is a fully human being. A fully human being is fully divine. Right now
we are only half a human being. We do things with hesitation, we do things with ego. We don't
believe that it is God who arranges all this for our enjoyment, for our experience. We separate
sin and virtue. We make a big deal out of everything, and accordingly judge ourselves and
other people. We suffer from our own limitations about what God should do. Understand?
Actually, God is inside us and we limit Him. We like to enjoy ourselves and play, but we don't
know how. We just say to others, 'Ah! You shouldn't do that,' and to ourselves, 'I shouldn't do
that. I must not do this. So,why should I be vegetarian?' Yeah! I know. I am vegetarian because
the God inside me wants it."
"When we are pure in our deeds, speech and thought, even for a second, all the deities, the
gods, and the guardian angels will support us. At that moment, the entire universe belongs to
us and supports us, and the throne is there for us to reign upon."

Foods from plant sources and dairy products are permitted on this diet, but all other foods from
animal sources including eggs should not be eaten. There are many reasons for this, but the
most important comes from the First Precept, which tells us to refrain from taking the life of
sentient beings, or "Thou shalt not kill."
Not killing or otherwise harming other living creatures is of obvious benefit for them. Less
obvious is the fact that refraining from harming others is equally advantageous for ourselves.
Why? Because of the law of karma. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." When you kill, or cause
others to kill for you, in order to satisfy your desire for meat, you incur a karmic debt, and this
debt must eventually be repaid.

So, in a very real sense, the keeping of a vegetarian diet is a gift which we give to ourselves.
We feel better, the quality of our lives improves as the heaviness of our karmic indebtedness
diminishes, and we are offered entrance into new subtle and heavenly realms of inner
experience. It is well worth the small price you have to pay!

The spiritual arguments against eating meat are convincing for some people, but there are other
compelling reasons for being a vegetarian. All of them are rooted in common sense. They have
to do with issues of personal health and nutrition, ecology and the environment, ethics and
animal suffering, and world hunger.

Health and Nutrition

Studies of human evolution have shown that our ancestors were vegetarian by nature. The
structure of the human body is not suited for eating meat. This was demonstrated in an essay
on comparative anatomy by Dr. G. S. Huntingen of Columbia University. He pointed out that
carnivores have short small and large intestines. Their large intestine is characteristically very
straight and smooth. In contrast, vegetarian animals have both a long small intestine and a long
large intestine. Because of the low fiber content and high protein density of meat, the intestines
do not require a long time to absorb nutrients; thus, the intestines of carnivores are shorter in
length than those of vegetarian animals.
Humans, like other naturally vegetarian animals, have both a long small and large intestine.
Together, our intestines are approximately twenty-eight feet (eight and a half meters) in length.
The small intestine is folded back on itself many times, and its walls are convoluted, not
smooth. Because they are longer than those found in carnivores, the meat we eat stays in our
intestines for a longer period of time. Consequently, the meat can putrefy and create toxins.
These toxins have been implicated as a cause of colon cancer, and they also increase the burden
on the liver, which has the function of getting rid of toxins. This can cause cirrhosis and even
cancer of the liver.

Meat contains a lot of urokinase protein and urea, which add to the burden on the kidneys, and
can destroy kidney function. There are fourteen grams of urokinase protein in every pound of
steak. If living cells are put into liquid urokinase protein, their metabolic function will
degenerate. Furthermore, meat lacks cellulose or fiber, and lack of fiber can easily create
constipation. It is known that constipation can cause rectal cancer or piles.

The cholesterol and saturated fats in flesh also create cardiovascular disorders. Cardiovascular
disorders are the number one leading cause of death in the United States, and now in Formosa.

Cancer is the second leading cause of death. Experiments indicate that the burning and roasting
of flesh creates a chemical element (Methylcholanthrene) which is a powerful carcinogen. Mice
given this chemical develop cancers, such as bone tumors, cancer of the blood, cancer of the
stomach, etc.

Research has shown that infant mice fed by a female mouse having breast cancer will also
develop cancer. When human cancer cells were injected into animals, the animals also
developed cancer. If the meat which we eat daily comes from animals that originally have such
disorders, and we take them into our body, there is a good chance we will also get the diseases.

Most people assume that meat is clean and safe, that there are inspections done at all butcheries.
There are far too many cattle, pigs, poultry, etc. killed for sale every day for each one to actually
be examined. It's very difficult to check whether a piece of meat has cancer in it, let alone check
every single animal. Currently, the meat industry just cuts off the head when it has a problem,
or cuts off the leg which is diseased. Only the bad parts are removed and the rest is sold.

The famous vegetarian, Dr. J. H. Kellogg said, "When we eat vegetarian food, we don't have to
worry about what kind of disease the food died of. This makes a joyful meal!"

There is yet another concern. Antibiotics as well as other drugs including steroids and growth
hormones are either added to animal feed or injected directly into the animals. It has been
reported that people eating these animals will absorb these drugs into their bodies. There is a
possibility that antibiotics in meat are diminishing the effectiveness of antibiotics for human
use.

There are some people who consider the vegetarian diet not sufficiently nourishing. An
American surgical expert, Dr. Miller, practiced medicine for forty years in Formosa. He
established a hospital there, where all the meals were vegetarian, for staff members as well as
the patients. He said, "The mouse is one kind of animal which can support its life with both a
vegetarian and non-vegetarian diet. If two mice are segregated, with one eating flesh and the
other vegetarian food, we find that their growth and development are the same, but that the
vegetarian mouse lives longer and has greater resistance to disease. Furthermore, when the two
mice got sick, the vegetarian mouse recovered quicker." He then added, "The medicine given to
us by modern science has improved greatly, but it can only treat illnesses. Food, however, can
sustain our health." He pointed out that, "Food from plants is a more direct source of nutrition
than meat. People eat animals, but the source of nutrition for the animals we eat is plants. The
lives of most animals are short, and animals have nearly all the diseases that mankind has. It is
very likely that the diseases of mankind come from eating the flesh of diseased animals. So,
why don't people get their nutrition directly from plants?" Dr. Miller suggested that we only
need cereals, beans and vegetables to get all the nourishment we need to maintain good health.

Many people have the idea that animal protein is 'superior' to plant protein because the former is
considered a complete protein, and the latter is incomplete. The truth is that some plant proteins
are complete, and that food combining can create complete proteins out of several incomplete
protein foods.

In March 1988 the American Dietetic Association announced that: "It is the position of the
ADA that vegetarian diets are healthful and nutritionally adequate when appropriately planned."

It is often falsely believed that meat eaters are stronger than vegetarians, but an experiment
conducted by Professor Irving Fisher of Yale University on 32 vegetarians and 15 meat-eaters
showed that vegetarians had more endurance than meat eaters. He had people hold out their
arms for as long as possible. The outcome from the test was very clear. Among the 15 meat-
eaters, only two persons could hold out their arms for fifteen to thirty minutes; however,
among the 32 vegetarians, 22 persons held out their arms for fifteen to thirty minutes, 15
persons for over thirty minutes, 9 persons for over one hour, 4 persons for over two hours,
and one vegetarian held his arms out for over three hours.

Many long distance track athletes keep a vegetarian diet for the time preceding competitions.
Dr. Barbara More, an expert in vegetarian therapy, completed a one hundred and ten mile race
in twenty-seven hours and thirty minutes. A woman of fifty-six years of age, she broke all the
records held by young men. "I want to be an example to show that people who take a whole
vegetarian diet will enjoy a strong body, a clear mind, and a purified life."

Does the vegetarian get enough protein in his diet? The World Health Organization
recommends that 4.5% of daily calories be derived from protein. Wheat has 17% of it's calories
as protein, broccoli has 45% and rice has 8%. It is very easy to have a protein rich diet without
eating meat. With the additional benefit of avoiding the many diseases caused by high fat diets
such as heart disease and many cancers, vegetarianism is clearly the superior choice.

The relationship between over consumption of meat, and other animal source foods containing
high levels of saturated fats, and heart disease, breast cancer, colon cancer and strokes has been
proven. Other diseases which are often prevented and sometimes cured by a low fat vegetarian
diet include: kidney stones, prostate cancer, diabetes, peptic ulcers, gallstones, irritable bowel
syndrome, arthritis, gum disease, acne, pancreatic cancer, stomach cancer, hypoglycemia,
constipation, diverticulosis, hypertension, osteoporosis, ovarian cancer, hemorrhoids, obesity,
and asthma.

There is no greater personal health risk than eating meat, aside from smoking.
Ecology and the Environment

Raising animals for meat has its consequences. It leads to rain forest destruction, global
heatrising, water pollution, water scarcity, desertification, misuse of energy resources, and
world hunger. The use of land, water, energy, and human effort to produce meat is not an
efficient way to use the earth's resources.
Since 1960, some 25% of Central America's rain forests have been burned and cleared to create
pasture for beef cattle. It has been estimated that every four ounce hamburger made from rain
forest beef destroys 55 square feet of tropical rain forest. In addition, raising cattle contributes
significantly to the production of three gases which cause global warming, is a leading cause of
water pollution, and requires a staggering 2464 gallons of water for the production of each
pound of beef. It only takes 29 gallons of water to produce a pound of tomatoes, and 139
gallons to produce a one pound loaf of whole wheat bread. Nearly half of the water consumed
in the United States goes to the growing of feed for cattle and other livestock.

Many more people could be fed if the resources used to raise cattle were used to produce grain
to feed the world's population. An acre of land growing oats produces 8 times the protein and
25 times the calories, if the oats are fed to humans rather than to cattle. An acre of land used for
broccoli produces 10 times the protein, calories and niacin as an acre of land producing beef.
Statistics like these are numerous. The world's resources would be more efficiently utilized if
the land used for livestock production was converted to raising crops to feed people.

Eating a vegetarian diet allows you to "tread more lightly on the planet." In addition to taking
only what you need and reducing excess, it will feel better when you know that a living being
doesn't have to die each time you eat a meal.

World Hunger

Nearly one billion people suffer from hunger and malnutrition on this planet. Over 40 million
die each year of starvation, and most of them are children. Despite this, more than one third of
the world's grain harvest is diverted from feeding people to feeding livestock. In the United
States, livestock consume 70% of all the grain produced. If we fed people instead of livestock,
no one would go hungry.
Animal Suffering

Are you aware of the fact that more than 100,000 cows are slaughtered every day in the United
States?
Most animals in Western countries are raised on "factory farms." These facilities are designed
to produce the maximum number of animals for slaughter at the minimum expense. Animals
are crowded together, disfigured and treated like machines for the conversion of feed into flesh.
This is a reality that most of us will never see with our own eyes. It has been said that, "One
visit to a slaughterhouse will make you a vegetarian for life."

Leo Tolstoy said, "As long as there are slaughterhouses there will be battlefields. A vegetarian
diet is the acid test of humanitarianism." Although most of us do not actively condone killing,
we have developed the habit, supported by society, of eating meat regularly, without any real
awareness of what is being done to the animals we eat.

The Company of Saints and Others

From the beginning of recorded history we can see that vegetables have been the natural food
of human beings. Early Greek and Hebrew myths all spoke of people originally eating fruit.
Ancient Egyptian priests never ate meat. Many great Greek philosophers such as Plato,
Diogenes, and Socrates all advocated vegetarianism.
In India, Shakyamuni Buddha emphasized the importance of Ahimsa, the principle of not
harming any living things. He warned His disciples not to eat meat, or else other living beings
would become frightened of them. Buddha made the following observations: "Meat eating is
just an acquired habit. In the beginning we were not born with a desire for it." "Flesh eating
people cut off their inner seed of Great Mercy." "Flesh eating people kill each other and eat
each other ... this life I eat you, and next life you eat me ... and it always continues in this way.
How can they ever get out of the Three Realms (of illusion)?"

Many early Taoists, early Christians and Jews were vegetarians. It is recorded in the Holy
Bible: "And God said, I have provided all kinds of grain and all kinds of fruit for you to eat;
but for the wild animals and for all the birds I have provided grass and leafy plants for
food." (Genesis 1:29) Other examples forbidding the eating of meat in the Bible: "You must
not eat meat with blood in it, because the life is in the blood." (Genesis 9:4) "God said, Who
told you to kill the bullock and the she goat to make an offering to me? Wash yourselves from
this innocent blood, so I may hear your prayer; otherwise I will turn my head away because
your hands are full of blood. Repent yourselves so I may forgive you." St. Paul, one of Jesus'
disciples, said in his letter to the Romans, "It is good neither to eat flesh nor to drink
wine." (Romans 14:21)

Recently, historians have discovered many ancient books that have shed new light on the life of
Jesus and His teachings. Jesus said, "People who have animals' flesh become their own tombs.
I tell you honestly, the man who kills will be killed. The man who kills living things and eats
their meat is eating the meat of the dead men."

Indian religions also avoid the eating of flesh. It is said that, "People can't get flesh without
killing things. A person who hurts sentient beings will never be blessed by God. So, avoid
taking flesh!" (Hindu Precept)

The holy scripture of Islam, the Koran, forbids the "eating of dead animals, blood and flesh."

A great Chinese Zen Master, Han Shan Tzu wrote a poem which was strongly against flesh
eating: "Go quickly to the market to buy meat and fish and feed them to your wife and children.
But why must their lives be taken to sustain yours? It's unreasonable. It will not bring you
affinity with Heaven, but make you become dregs of Hell!"

Many famous writers, artists, scientists, philosophers, and eminent men were vegetarians. The
following people have all embraced vegetarianism with enthusiasm: Shakyamuni Buddha,
Jesus Christ, Virgil, Horace, Plato, Ovid, Petrarch, Pythagoras, Socrates, William Shakespeare,
Voltaire, Sir Isaac Newton, Leonardo Da Vinci, Charles Darwin, Benjamin Franklin, Ralph
Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Emile Zola, Bertrand Russell, Richard Wagner, Percy
Bysshe Shelley, H. G. Wells, Albert Einstein, Rabindranath Tagore, Leo Tolstoy, George
Bernard Shaw, Mahatma Gandhi, Albert Schweitzer, and more recently, Paul Newman,
Madonna, Princess Diana, Lindsay Wagner, Paul McCartney, and Candice Bergen, to name a
few.

Albert Einstein said, "I think the changes and purifying effects that a vegetarian diet have on a
human being's disposition are quite beneficial to mankind. Therefore, it is both auspicious and
peaceful for people to choose vegetarianism." This has been the common advice of many
important figures and sages throughout history!

MODERN SCIENCE REASONS

Regarding the "sustainable production of meat" as discussed in

the new book 'Meat - a benign extravagance'
I feel as a friend I must say, encouraging the consumption of meat, albeit sustainably is not
something that is good for anyone in ultimate terms. To refrain from killing is one of the 10
commandments of Christ, the 5 precepts of the Buddha, a central tenant of intuitive, moral or
common sense logic in terms compassion and therefore in your own best interest not to
promote, not to mention the interest of all other beings therefore.

I have made my way through as much of the book as I can and it says it it's self, 'the scope of
the book is not to discuss weather it is right or wrong to eat meat' (page 2 in the text) but just to
discuss if it is possible for us to do so. The figures that they say are overplayed by an order of
3 magnitudes, about water consumption and the insulative effect of the GHGs being c. 10% of
total anthropogenic contribution do not deal with the calculations that go into bringing the
figure to 51% of total anthro. GHG emissions as calculated (as an almost unanimously
accepted calculation) by former world bank environmental adviser Dr Robert Goodland here:
'Livestock and Climate Change'.

I can not understand what good such a book would do at such a time when we need to race
back from environmental tipping points we are accelerating towards, livestock clearly,
exhaustively demonstrated as the main weight that is dragging us down towards these points of
no return where so many will come to suffering. As far as priorities go I do not think that such
a small segment of society who can live like this need propagate such information to people at
this time. The message that livestock is a benign extravagance is flatly dangerous and I
encourage you to stop propagating it at this time, there is so much else that can be encouraged
other than the killing and eating of our mothers children.

Besides:
'If livestock are responsible for at least 51% of anthropogenic GHG
emissions, then mitigation measures no longer suffice, and broadly
avoiding emissions attributable to livestock becomes critical. For
example, improvements in the pasture-raising of livestock can
somewhat increase carbon stores in soil. However, only about 8% of
meat is produced from pasture-raised livestock and there is little land
available to increase this amount without causing deforestation. Further,
when livestock are pasture-raised, they emit as much as three times the
amount of methane as do intensively-raised livestock. Moreover, the
possibility for mitigation to increase soil carbon is available for only the
first part of the lives of most pasture-raised livestock, as most are
intensively raised and fed crops for the second part of their lives' - Dr.
Robert Goodland to The FAO.
The China Study, the longest and most comprehensive study ever done on human nutrition
clearly shows that humans are not designed to eat meat, in fact that when they do, especially
when they cook it, they are many hundreds of times more likely to get cancers, disease and they
all die much younger compared to vegetarians.

BUSINESS REASONS
Robert Goodland Former World Bank Environmental adviser to the world bank is invited to
the club of Rome By the FAO. - http://www.zumodrive.com/share/4mJcNDEzZT  file:
'goodland and co.'

FROM THE BIBLE

Proverbs 20: 23 Be not among the winebibbers nor the riotous eaters of animal flesh.
Genesis 1: 29 Behold I have given you herb yielding seed. To you it shall be for food. http://
www.matthewscully.com
* Genesis 9: 4-5 Flesh shall ye not eat. http://www.all-creatures.org
* Isaiah 65: The lion shall lie down with the lamb.. they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my
holy mountain for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord. http://www.hacres.com
* Psalm 104: God made the whale to frolic in the sea (not to be slaughtered by the US,
JAPAN, NORWAY and ICELAND govts.) http://www.embassy.gov
Isaiah 66: 3: He that slays an ox is as he that slays a man.
* Jesus: Whatsoever you have done to these the least of My brethren you have done unto Me.
* Corinthians l If meat makes my brother stumble I shall never again eat meat.
* Exodus 16: 31 The desert manna was like coriander seed. (This was stated by Dr.Reginald
Cherry MD on the Trinity Broadcast Network).
* Ezekiel 3 and 4: My body has never been contaminated by animal flesh.
* Leviticus: I will set my face against them that eat blood. http://www.meatout.com
* Judges 13: The breaking of the Nazarite vow (no flesh.. no hair cutting) was the cause of
Samson`s downfall. http://www.jewishveg.com
* Job 12: 8 Speak to the earth and she will teach thee (of patience, nurturing, unconditional ,
freely giving to all) http://www.compassionatespirit.com
* Exodus 20: 13 Thou Shalt Not Kill (This is not asterisked in the Bible... Later translations
such as New King James diluted King James to "Thou Shalt Not Murder" http://
www.ivu.org.cob-web.org:8888/recipes
Hosea 2:28: I will make for you that day a covenant with the animals.
Deuteronomy 5: Thou Shalt Not Kill (later versions than the King James translate this as Thou
Shalt Not Murder)
Exodus 20: 13 Thou Shalt Not Kill brought down the mountain literally Lo Tirtzach ... (this is
nonkilling, not nonmurder) The Biblical command "Thou Shalt Not Kill" which J J Price cites
as a reason to change diet ... is not asterisked "to include humans only". The Biblical command
"Thou Shalt Not Steal" which Kathy Kurtz cites can be related to not purloining the eggs from
chickens nor the milk from mother cows whose calves are then butchered for veal.
Genesis 6: Noah was commanded by God to provide vegetarian food in the ark for people and
animals. (The lions drank the milk of cows.)
Genesis 9: 4-5 Flesh shall yet not eat. And surely your blood I will require at the hands of
beasts. (God forgive us all and help us all to change.)
Hosea 2:28: I will make for you that day a covenant with the wild animals. I will abolish the
bow, the sword, and war from the land. I will make you lie down in safety. Isaiah: Isaiah is the
prophet who more than any other forecasts the birth of Jesus. He is also the prophet with the
most references to nonviolence and universal respect for life. Jesus quotes Isaiah`s "I delight
not in your blood sacrifices" as He drives the animal killers out of the temple. Jesus refers to
the vegetarian Isaiah more than to any other.
Isaiah: 1: 11: I delight not in the blood of bullocks or of lambs or of he goats (whereas Isaiah
66 involves not eating pigs ... and Isaiah 65 involves not eating any living thing) (In some
Bible translations the word `blood` has been removed.) (In others it is "I delight not in thy
blood sacrifices.")
Isaiah 66: 3 He who slays an ox is as he that slays a man. (Another translation: He who kills a
bull is as he who kills a man.)
Job 5: You will be in league with the stones of the field and the beasts of the field shall be at
peace with you.
Job 12: 8 Speak to the earth and she will teach thee (of patience, humility, forgiveness,
universal nurturing)

GREATER THINGS SHALL YOU DO THAN I HAVE DONE

SAID JESUS CHRIST TO HIS FOLLOWERS:

What you have done to these the least of My brethren you have done unto Me.

CATHOLIC VEGETARIAN SAINTS

St Francis of Assisi, St Clare, stigmatist St Therese Neumann, St. Martin de Porres, St John
Chrysostom, St Anthony of Padua who preached to fishes when humans would not listen.. St
Nicholas of Tolentino* believed they were following the example of Jesus in not eating His
animals. Trappists, Cistercians, Benedictines, Franciscans all have had a tradition of
vegetarian diet, to which many still adhere. The pretzel was says George Cornell former AP
religion writer a Lenten bread, symbolizing arms folded in prayer.. Lentils were named as
such because they were a Lenten vegetarian alternative to animal flesh. Meatless Fridays were
the last vestige of early Christian abstinence from meat in following
Christ's example. A papal bull once excommunicated anyone who attended a bullfight because
the barbaric cruelty in them. This was later amended to excommunicate only priests who
blessed bullfighting.
"You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a
right to be here"
-Ehrmann
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The lessons we have begun to learn make me hopeful, that human beings will
become friendlier, more harmonious, less harmful. Compassion and the seeds
of peace will be able to flourish. At the same time, every individual is
responsible to help guide our global family in the right direction. Good wishes
alone are not enough; we have to take responsibility. Large human movements
spring from individual human initiatives
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.
"The human brain hasnt changed much in the past million years" -Desmond
Morris (the ramifications of this are endless, people in the days of the
construction of the pyramids and before, were just as smart as people are
today, they are just not around to stand up to all who think that only since "our
generation" has man become intelligent)
.
Today's youth are in rebellion, society is crumbling, it appears to be the fall of
mankind (approximate quote) -Plato (?) 400 BC
.
He who looketh upon a woman loseth a fender -sign in auto repair shop
.
Can you imagine a world without men? No crime and lots of happy fat women
-Sylvia (Nicole Hollander)
.
There will be sex after death, we just won't be able to feel it -Lily Tomlin
.
Love is the crocodile on the river of desire -Bhartrihari (ca. 625)
.
If women didn't have a vagina I wouldn't talk with them -Howard Stern
.
A relationship is what happens between two people who are waiting for
something better to come along -author?
.
The longer I live, the more I see that I am never wrong about anything, and
that all the pains I have so humbly taken to verify my notions have only wasted
my time -George Bernard Shaw (famous vegetarian)
.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
"When about 16 Years of Age, I happen'd to meet with a Book written by one
Tryon, recommending a Vegetable Diet. I determined to go into it.... My
refusing to eat Flesh occasioned an inconveniency, and I was frequently chid
for my singularity...."
-BEN FRANKLIN Chapter 1 "The Autobiography" E302.6F7A2 available in
most libraries and bookstores and college bookstores
ONLINE VERSION also available (now more directly at) http://
www.earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt1/index.html a bit further than 3/4
of the page down. Select Chapter 1, and search for word "Tryon" or
"vegetable" (find option will not work on this page with some browsers, you
may have to look visually). Note: The word "Flesh" is capitalized in the
Vintage Press version, but not in some other publications.

WAS FRANKLIN REALLY A VEGETARIAN? HOW LONG?

http://www.archure.net/salus/franklinveg.html
.
    "Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages." -
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
.
If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. -Paul
McCartney
.
When I was young we didn't have MTV; we had to take drugs and go to
concerts -Steven Pearl? or Steven Wright?

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
the world. Indeed, its the only thing that ever has.-Margaret Mead
.
Oppression stems from Aggression, the worlds number one solvable problem -
Archure (aka Chris Holley)
.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a
right to be here" -Ehrmann
.
Gandhi visited the USA, a reporter asked Gandhi what he thought of Western
Civilization; Gandhi replied "It sounds like a good idea to me"
.
If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants -Newton
.
There is more to life than increasing its speed -Mahatma Gandhi
.
If theyre not going to listen to Ben Franklin (vegetarian, age 16, from The
Autobiography) and Albert Einstein (vegetarian and anti-war pacifist); then
who is going to listen to MistrMoose (Archure's former nickname in chat
rooms). -Archure

in the name of god

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Charles Fraser
Charlie@SustainableMedia.coop
Skype: 'cdmvsf''
CES No. CTTE2447

The World Preservation Foundation

http://www.WorldPreservationFoundation.org

'Manna - The Ubuntu Living Show'

"Comprehend and copy nature"
http://www.Manna.coop
CES No. CTTE3650

The Sustainable Media Co-operative

http://www.SustainableMedia.coop
CES Global Group No. GLOG0002

The Community Exchange System

http://www.Community-Exchange.org
The Beacon Bank Seed Exchange (BBSE)
BANK0000 Administrator

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