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Deni R. Tama
Partner, Fraud Investigation & Dispute Services
Ernst & Young Indonesia
deni.r.tama@id.ey.com
Agenda
CNN
Understanding
Fraud
What is fraud?
ACFE, USA
Irregularities or omissions
deliberately performed to deceive,
cheat, or manipulate the bank,
customers or other related parties
("the Bank"), which occurs in the
environment or by means of the
Bank, resulting in losses for the Bank
and benefit for the perpetrators.
FRAUD
Conflicts of
Interest Asset / Revenue
Understatements
Bribery
Inventory and
Cash Asset / Revenue
All Other Assets
Overstatements
Illegal
Gratuities
► Corruption
► Bribery (both in public and private sector)
► Economic extortion
► Conflict of interest
► Asset misappropriation
► Theft of physical assets/inventory
► Intellectual property infringement
Motivation
- Fear of lay-offs
- Economic
Opportunity downturn
Financial - Tighter
institutions are competition
currently
downsizing, which
has an immediate
effect on internal
controls. Justification
People will create
a rationalisation to
justify their
fraudulent act
Profile of fraudsters
An appearance of a
stable family situation Good
psychological
health
Above average
education
Knowledge of
accounting system
Less likely to have
criminal records
Prior accounting
experience
A big spender
Fraud
in Numbers
Impact on organisations
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What a business environment!
42%
downturn
► Misstating company’s
financial performance
► Offering cash,
… of executives feel entertainment and/or
that unethical behaviors personal gifts to
can be justified... win/retain business
Fraudulent
F/S
Pillars of Anti
Fraud System
► Codes of conduct
► Do the right thing ► Act within authority
► Speaking up ► Comply with law
► Combat financial crime ► Conflict of interest
► Protect information ► Insider trading
► Anti-fraud statement
► Annual attestation
Entertainment Gift
Receiving
Giving
Database G&E
Fraud risk assessment
Know your employees
While
<1% are detected through surveillance
Common red flags
Policy Dissemination
► Global best practice ► Training
► Confidentiality ► Governance
► Protection of ► Campaigns
whistleblowers ► FAQs
► Case management
► Clear scope
People System
Staff account monitoring
Data leakage protection
Personally Transaction
identifiable data Data
CAUSE EFFECT
► Loss of IT devices
► Unauthorised ► Brand damage
transfer to USB
devices
Your ► Reputation issue
► Customer loss
► Data theft through Data ► Fines/penalties
emails
► Litigation
► Unauthorised data
printing
Corporate Customers
Data Data
Pitfalls in Detection
► Assemble an appropriate
investigative team
► Essentially, investigation is an
evidence gathering process
► Type of evidence:
► Document/records
► Statements
► Electronic evidence (computer
image)
► Open source data (web)
► Physical exhibits
► Take notes (and draw pictures if necessary), and keep it for your
documentation
► Avoid interruptions
Asking questions
► Use systematic questions (OK, you’ve done this, this, this … then how,
where etc)
► Comparison questions (I see that you operate in such manner, but the code
of conduct says this, this …)
POSSIBLE APPROACH
• High • Planning
profile/senior • Know your case
Big Cheese • Intelligent • Assume control
• Arrogant
• Don’t be intimidated
• Authoritative
• Don’t waste time
POSSIBLE APPROACH
• Intelligent,
quick thinking • Attention to details
Pathological Liar • Good story-
• Chronological
tellers
• Charming • Wait for inconsistencies and
point them out
• Unable to
discern truth • Try to prove lies ex post facto
from lie
Interviewee types (2)
POSSIBLE APPROACH
POSSIBLE APPROACH
• Erratic • Total control
• Incoherent • Slow down
Over-eager • Talk very quickly • Divide into segments
• Talk without • Segment at a time
thinking
• Complete each before moving on
Interviewing tips
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Enhancing your anti-fraud programme
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Thank You!
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