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Speaker 1: Hello my listening for it is so nice we can meet each other on the air on this
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Speaker 1: Of Facebook page I don't care how you got here I am so thrilled that you are
because this is where we learn the new troops and we embrace the new truth and live the
life of our dreams now many years ago many and I'm not I'm I'm not kidding but three years
ago I received this book in the mail by one of the people that are feed these wonderful
teachers that we have in our classroom and it sat it's sad to see like this book because it's
so intimidating it sat on my desk for such a long time it kept calling me and it kept calling me
and that's when I picked up the book and I thought.
Speaker 1: Me this book and I asked Ashley to reach out to doctor or or to to his PR person
and the next thing you know we had doctor Horowitz on the in the classroom at the time it
was the show the radio show and all of a sudden I realized yes said he was the one he was
the one that said we need to become our own M. D. medical detective so since then he was
on you know the in the classroom like you know once every two months every three months
and then he was snatched by Washington just take it away from me.
Speaker 1: And he is back and he's in a bit of a break right now lots of wonderful things
happening but if you've ever been told that you have Lyme disease or if you have multiple
symptoms but no one can figure out what you have and you've been labeled as you know
like put aside and giving you a label and medication that's not working for you.
Speaker 1: This guy this guy will change your life the information that he provides his
sixteen point stats on on healing I've I've had so many people say oh you should have
doctor Horowitz on your show yeah well he has been and we've been waiting for him and
today is the day that we get to get an update and since it is our sole purpose in life to give
and receive love and knowledge I am so grateful that Dr Richard Horowitz is back to do just
that welcome back doctor Horowitz is so great zero.
Speaker 2: Thank you Eileen it's great being here.
Speaker 1: And catching up with you all my goodness so share a little bit about your
background how you stumbled upon Lyme disease and why that became your passion.
Speaker 2: So on a board certified internist and I had finished my training at Mount Sinai in
New York City and I thought it would be nice to move up to the mountains and rivers and be
a country doc and I was close enough to my parents who lived in white stone in the bayside
area as you need a car writer train so I'm I moved upstate became assistant director of
medicine at one of the local hospitals and I didn't know I was moving it's one of the largest
climate that make areas in the country this was over thirty years ago and since that time I've
seen over thirteen thousand chronically aligned patients they come from all over the US they
come from Europe they've come from Canada from New Zealand from Australia they come
from all over it's it's literally a worldwide epidemic there isn't one place in the world that is
now out now been invaded by ticks I used to joke with Pat Smith from the lime disease
association I was going to go to Antarctica and then she sent me a picture of penguins with
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checks on the.
Speaker 2: They're all over at this point you can't really afford him.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 1: In Florida we have Lone Star sells like a cowboy.
Speaker 2: You know Florida actually is interesting because years ago people didn't realize
help they thought there's no lime in Florida and quest diagnostics they did a study about a
year ago and Florida turned out on the map where there is a lot more cases showing up in
Florida.
Speaker 2: It's true you don't just happy the deer tick the XLT stick you also have the Lone
Star tick which has like a little white spot on the back looks like a watermelon seed and that
ticket is it's quite dangerous because even if it doesn't give you tularemia or lucky are rocky
mountain spotted fever viruses.
Speaker 2: The heartland virus the Bourbon virus there's all kinds of different infections that
are in this check it's also carrying something it's alive and we don't know how it's transmitted
called alpha gal allergy so people develop an allergy to red meat or meat products.
Speaker 2: After they get a tick bite so what happens is is you're eating your nice steak at
six o'clock in the evening at twelve o'clock all of a sudden you can't breathe your break out in
hives your wheezing and you go to the emergency room for an anaphylactic reaction and it
happened about four to six hours after you ate meat hi this is now happening from the bite of
the Lone Star ticks so people have to be very careful with tick prevention means so yeah
that's it there's a lot of different diseases that are now showing up out there.
Speaker 1: What else it's amazing it's amazing so you're thinking here you're here you're
thinking that.
Speaker 1: That you you've had a bite you don't think anything of it but like when you said
you can't eat meat I I when I was younger I just couldn't digest it so I did I just thought it was
a digestive issue could that be also a potential Lyme disease tick bite or maybe now to.
Speaker 2: Digestive issues would be different I mean that can be enzyme deficiencies or or
something else going on but no this is actually getting quite second can be life threatening in
people who have it so in this Washington group that I was I had recently been elected to we
did a report in our subcommittee on alpha gal it's becoming a really big problem and we
need the FDA at this point to start labeling products because things have gelatin or beef
products and it can also trigger that so.
Speaker 2: Rugs it could be in capsules that can be nutritional supplements it's not just
eating meat so we we've got a big problem on our hands and people need to know the one
thing you have to go home with today after this interview we're doing is prevention
prevention prevention is over eighteen different tick borne diseases now that can be
transmitted several of them are deadly perfect most of them can be deadly we're seeing
outbreaks of pelos on virus it's a tick borne viral infection and if you're living in alignment
emic area like the northeast or parts of the Midwest like Wisconsin we're seeing ten to
sixteen percent of the people who test positive for Lyme I've now been exposed to this virus
and it gets into your body within fifteen minutes of a tick bite meaning you if you don't protect
yourself against techs that virus can get in within fifteen minutes we just had a gentleman die
about a month ago in Ulster county near where I live from Boston and suffer lightest from
brain swelling from this tick borne virus so there are these deadly viruses some of the other
tick borne infections like Luquillo sis and applies most his rocky mountain spotted fever their
death rates mortality rates of one to three percent in some of these kids die every year from
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rocky mountain spotted fever because the pediatricians don't wanna given doxycycline.
Speaker 2: It's going to affect the enamel on their teeth and actually the CDC and others
have shown that that's not the case so we have to be careful it's not just about getting sick
with a chronic fatiguing muscular skeletal neuro psychiatric type illness it's also about you
know being being very careful because there are no this is that can kill you that are in these
Texan and by the way these these tick borne infections some of them are in the blood
supply.
Speaker 2: So be easy since.
Speaker 1: It's a.
Speaker 2: Malaria like organism in Texas it's in the blood supply it's the most common tick
borne parasitic infection that's being transmitted by blood transfusions Lechia Anna plasma
Colorado tic fever Bartonella there's a lot of different tick borne infections relapsing fever
Braley Nemo toy it can be transmitted by a blood transfusion.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Pregnant women can transmit somebody's infections from their children to their
unborn child with the transplantation let's say you get a liver transplant your kidney
transplant yet but be easier you could get the BC of from a transplant so it's not just about
two or infections it's also about blood in maternal fetal transmission and OB so people just
have to be aware you know we're in a real epidemic of tick borne diseases and I I know a lot
of people are educated but you have to stay educated there in new texts that are coming out
all the time like the Asian bush tech that showed up a couple years ago now thank god this
stick is a hermaphrodite it reproduces without having a meeting a blood meal.
Speaker 2: Adding like wildfire throughout the northeast every couple of months there's a
new state that is now being affected.
Speaker 1: And in.
Speaker 2: Asia it's containing a virus again which can kill people as well as the alpha gal
allergy so we haven't picked those up in the Asian bush take yet here but the birds are
carrying these tax so we getting all these new tech infections that are now showing up in a
new check your checks that are actually showing up in the United States prevention
prevention prevention okay learn about this.
Speaker 1: Okay so prevention so I went with everything that you said it's so overwhelming
it's like I well I just want to lock myself indoors and but how do we prevent a tick bite.
Speaker 2: So the easiest way and I have these in my book how can I get better and if you
look also on the tick borne disease working group website the I SO in my book how can I get
better and on the website which people can go to to get educated for really the most up to
date scientific information on tick borne diseases you go on H. H. S. dot gov HHS stands for
health and Human Services HHS dot gov front slash tick borne disease working group.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: If you go on that site you'll see the report to Congress that we gave to Congress
I had the honor of serving on this committee with members of the CDC eight the FDA the N.
I. H. the department of defense wonderful researchers a lot of great people from the public.
Speaker 2: Some of the line groups that the supporters of that route there's sick patients
Ron there we had a very very good meeting I would say of mines because this was the first
time that people from opposing views we come together and have an open dialogue and if
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you look at the website you look at these reports the Congress and the subcommittee
reports you'll see that our group did a lot of hard work looking at all the new science online
magic borne diseases looking at Colin factions looking at prevention epidemiology how is it
spreading what are the problems with access to care lot of great patient stories Nicole Miller
Chow ski who is the first I Air Force pilot to fly F. fifteens I'm she was affectionately known as
fifty I think from what I understand from our they spent over millions of dollars training her
she got so sick she couldn't work at that point for the airforce and she had to quit and she
was the first female fighter pilot to basically get up in the air and do it and she was training
us squadrons of fighters you'll specter is a doctor at Duke University he got one car died at
sea almost died needing a heart transplant.
Speaker 2: Cause heart gave out from an infection with line that he had for years.
Speaker 2: Julia per se see a young woman went to sixty doctors who didn't diagnose or
she's now paralyzed in a wheelchair unable to walk the stories are.
Speaker 1: In.
Speaker 2: The congressional report you can read them and you can read about all the
updates that we gave to Congress and a lot of the new science that is now emerging.
Speaker 1: Okay so a lot we have lots of questions and just hold on a second because once
we get to the third question me see if I can click on here so that I can see all the questions
that you guys have we have about four or five questions already doctor were what you see
this is what you do this is what you do okay so we have our first question is Christina says
that she was very ill but found out that she had leaky gut can data and we allergies since
addressing these issues she feels great she said I had a second these questions I'm I'm
having a hard time getting to it okay she said I since then I've I feel great I had done a month
ago let's see let me go click up of K. friend what what what is that Kaplan is that a antibiotic.
Speaker 2: Keflex I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: As its its C. II it's really hard for me to read here because it's a very small the C.
E. F. T. I. N..
Speaker 2: O. sex often it's an antibiotic use.
Speaker 1: She said before this she didn't have co infections I I feel great now and so she's
wondering itself and that question okay and let's make our questions short let's say she let's
see because I keep it's very hard for me to pin point here I feel great now so should I worry
that I still have lime or just go by now how I feel it's been ten years they thought it looked like
the past infection never told me never told me or treated at song.
Speaker 2: So the key the key to medicine especially with lime is you treat patients you
don't treat blood tests.
Speaker 2: An antibody test just means you're been exposed it doesn't mean you're active
so if say and you know in my book I have a section under the sixteen point I'm sits map on
GI on gastrointestinal and we do discuss leaky gut can data I we'd allergies in fact there's
new treatments for the you got it is a product immunoglobulin G. twenty six it's
immunoglobulins and for people that have food allergies from what you got I when you take
this product with immunoglobulins it surrounds the food particles so your immune system
does not recognize it as a foreign invader there's also a new product that just came out from
medic Gen X. called ultra floor integrity it's a specific strain of a probiotic that has been
shown to help heal the he got so.
Speaker 2: These products basically lowers online which is a marker of Lee he got and
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raise an enzyme in the guy I in in your blood called T. a diamine oxidase which helps you to
two great histamine because a lot of people with leaky gut and can't get a ticket itching
sometimes they get wheezing biggest muscle aches and pains can did in fact look like line
the difference is you get worse when you eat carbohydrates and sugars and you don't
normally have good and bad days with the symptoms my great all over your body migratory
pain.
Speaker 1: Yes that's that's what pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah so muscle pain joint pain or nerve pain tingling numbness burning
stabbing that my great that's line but if your fatigue and headaches and joint pain that's not
migratory and responds when you get on a proper diet and healing your guys that could just
be a case of leaky guiding can data so I wouldn't worry so much if if you've done so often
and you're not having any symptoms hi it's really nothing you have to worry about right now
most people with Lyme they're going to know if it's coming back because most of the time if
they're stressed up their adrenals real low they don't get enough sleep they got in a car
accident mean many people when they have stressors in the lives of the infections come out
but if this person's been well for a long period of time I I wouldn't worry it's like take your
blessings day by day you're well great enjoy your life just be careful with checks with
prevention.
Speaker 1: Yes and so she says that she has one weird symptom which is her front teeth
are really sensitive to pressure so I don't know how that that you know what that mean if that
makes any sense to you.
Speaker 2: It's not specific for lime or for you know can delete he got so I I can tell you
exactly what it's due to.
Speaker 1: Okay perfect okay so the next question is from Melanie she says anabolic
antibiotics and pharmaceuticals still on the boat are they are they the most effective way to
treat Lyme.
Speaker 2: So it's it's a great question so this brings me to some of the newer studies that
we published in the medical literature in the last year so part of the reason I haven't been on.
Speaker 2: Your show is I've been busy working in Washington publishing articles writing
two books doing a whole bunch of things.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So two of articles that we published in people can go online and they can read
these if you do a search and if the articles were called precision medicine.
Speaker 2: Part one and part two.
Speaker 2: One was published in the international journal of general medicine.
Speaker 2: This year February two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 2: And the other was published precision medicine part two was published in the
journal health care and that was in November two thousand eighteen so what do you study
is basically did is they looked at two hundred of our sickest patients with chronic Lyme
disease or post treatment Lyme disease syndrome these are the people that had a bull's eye
rash got treated and was still sick and we found that there are new protocols for treating
chronic Lyme disease my wife is now almost two years in remission with this protocol has
not relapse I had a hundred and ten people have not yet published this this is all if this will
be published soon or at least case studies on it and I'm putting in for a grant to look at this
we had a hundred and ten people I had a gentleman come man who took the dapsone
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combination therapy so what I did is I looked at the literature and I looked at tuberculosis
leprosy type drugs because in the last five years researchers from great universities like
John Hopkins university Stanford University Northeastern University are doctor shopping
from the university of new haven they've been publishing on bio films that just like you go to
the dentist and you get the plaque taken off your teeth so you don't get gingivitis and get sick
I'm simile they've been finding these Lyme spirochete hiding in bio for the bio films are
protecting the Bucks then they also found that they have these per sister forms so to break it
loves leprosy are processed your bacteria you need kind of longer courses with certain
drugs to be able to hit them so what I did is I use some of these persist or drugs used for
tuberculosis and leprosy the regimen I'm using.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 2: Eight to twelve weeks that's it oral generic cheap medication and with these drug
regimens out of these one hundred and ten people who did this higher does step some
protocol about roughly seventy out of a hundred and ten been sick from for months for years
have stayed in remission.
Speaker 1: And this is a twelve week product.
Speaker 1: All you said.
Speaker 2: Somewhere between eight to twelve weeks now where I found out about this
protocol is the gentleman came into my office and accidentally took a double dose of the
dapsone I'm he had been sick for about eight years he had been on the regular Joes for
three months with doxycycline rifampin dapsone and you could read about in these precision
medicine studies.
Speaker 2: You'll read about the dapsone protocol as well as all the comment sections we
found but be easy apart nala the second one you read about what else did we find making
people sick like heavy metals mold mineral deficiencies immune deficiency where the line
was affecting the immune system and your body can make antibodies to fight the bacteria
sleep problems psychological issues.
Speaker 1: Breast implant illness yeah.
Speaker 2: We we do see people who are clearly chemically sensitive to things that are
implanted in the body by the way breast implant elicits a biofilm Ellis.
Speaker 2: They're just like lime it's been shown to be a bio film illness there now showing
that breast implant illness can be the same.
Speaker 1: Could you could you could it be that people who have breast implant illness
were bitten by a tick.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as simple as that but I what I think it comes down.
Speaker 2: Well they they're now showing bile felt they've shown that pile films actually
responsible for many chronic diseases the N. I. H. is actually shown this years ago whether
you're talking about clustered in difficile diarrhea or can deter or salmonella or endocarditis
an infection of your heart valves these are biofilm infection some reason people thought it
didn't apply to line well turns out that when I've used three bile Filmation's stevia from neutral
Matix which is in Jupiter Florida by the way that's where they make it by Sidon which is an
herbal protocol and also using oregano oil this comes out of John Hopkins three agents that
disrupt biofilms with Doxie rifampin dapsone is showing tremendous promise in basically and
I I can't one hundred percent secure but let's just say putting people in remission where
they're not having any symptoms and a lot of these people a failed every traditional protocol
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you could possibly imagine so I just put in for a grant today to do a multi center pro
suspected of placebo control triple blinded study to basically look at the apps own so we can
show to the world once and for all that this is a protocol that helps to help all of these people
who have chronic Lyme symptoms that say I don't know where to turn there's no answers so
I'm hoping that I will be involved in this in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow wow wow okay so we have lots of questions so please be patient I
just I still want to what with with okay you have been so you've spent two years and
watched.
Speaker 1: Then you know you've you've created some reports that you've you've learned
about new protocols and all these things.
Speaker 1: Do you have you do you feel that your time there.
Speaker 1: Will be worse.
Speaker 1: From generation to generation do you feel that because we hear about the
pharmaceutical industry we hear about the government they're not doing enough for the real
causes the real people out there and so how how has your perspective of Washington
changed and where do you think your work is going to how is that going to help us all.
Speaker 0: So I do think the work that we did in Washington the first group of people lot the
seven public members in the seven members of the government who came together you
have to realize this was really at an inaugural event we've never had before governmental
agencies like the N. I. H. the FDA the CDC the department of defense come together with
people like me sitting around a table and having an open conversation you can believe me it
was an open conversation.
Speaker 1: Was I was born I was what you did was it ever heated.
Speaker 0: I know no everyone was very respectful very respectful and you know I have
very little filter between my brain and my mouth so I make sure that what I need to say
generally get said and what I found happened over time is there was a mutual respect that
started to happen from that I started having understanding where the CDC was coming from
and their difficulties in getting funding like in the congressional document one of the things
that's highlighted is that you know they got over one billion dollars years ago and like this
he's got twenty five thousand dollars you know.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 0: It doesn't make any sense it's the number one factor Spoornet big epidemic in
the United States and it's spreading worldwide so redressing the inequalities with the funding
I'm in this we talk about basically that the diagnostics and the fact that the diagnostics are
not accurate yeah this is coming from again governmental agencies not just people out in
the public we talk in the treatment section of the reports that there is some evidence that line
can persist you're still questions as far as white people are sick not so much by the way from
my perspective I mean I don't need to say this with hubris it's.
Speaker 0: I've been doing this for thirty two years for thirteen thousand people I really know
not everything of course no one knows everything but I know most of the reason.
Speaker 0: Why these people are ill how do I know I do this day in and day out and I've
seen these persist or protocols with dapsone and bile from agents make a huge difference in
the last decade we didn't have these tools ten years ago so you know when you use the M.
sits map and you look at all the sources of inflammation coming from the body I'm not
sleeping patients with Lyme don't sleep if you don't sleep you keep waking up in the middle
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of the night the inflammatory response doesn't shut off and it's inflammation that's giving you
your fatigue.
Speaker 1: And your pain.
Speaker 0: And your brain fog in your memory problems in your mood disorder right and
your joint and muscle and nerve pain it's all from inflammation but also if you got the wrong
backed you're in you're got your microbiome that causes inflammation if you have but these
you are barking eller co infection that causes inflammation these persist reforms in biofilms
cause inflammation heavy metals and molds can cause inflammation with downstream
effects on the hormones and the mitochondria this parts of the cells that make energy
affecting your blood pressure the point is this sixteen point model when you use it combined
with that some combination therapy.
Speaker 0: Ninety seven percent of these patients are getting better now some are a little
better some a moderately better and if you were to read a piece that came out at the Atlantic
magazine it just came out today early on and I would advise people to go read the article.
Speaker 1: Now share it on my page as well.
Speaker 0: Yeah by making a rock it's a great story about how long she suffered how many
doctor she went through and how she got help with the protocols we were using she came to
see me and I didn't even use the process protocols I'm just talking about using lye one oh
one basic antibiotics she still got significantly better had two healthy children you know when
she's ready now to do some of the process to protocols but I'm very excited this feels like a
turning point.
Speaker 1: Lastly good.
Speaker 0: Medically and medically and if we can get these pro suspected studies done we
will finally answer the questions that the infectious disease doctors in everyone's been
asking is it really truly a chronic persistent infection well yes it is but it's not just lime it's
relapsing fever bacteria it's persistent Bartonella it's persistent a bit easier it's persistent
jewelery me it's persistence resell it's persistent viruses like Epstein Barr herpes virus six
this is not a simple this is a complex illness you just have to know where to look.
Speaker 1: Your and are you are great medical detective I you must I must say I said that at
the beginning that you were the one that said we need to be our own medical detective our
own M. D. but you're giving us the tools and and this book how can I get better you guys can
get it on Amazon you can also go to can get better dot com there's so many different ways to
empower yourselves to live the life that you want I wanted to shift to ask some more
questions because I know that there's so many people waiting Dr forward still wants to know
what you think about hyperthermia for killing lime.
Speaker 0: So years ago they showed that the Lyme spirochete just like syphilis was
sensitive to heat hi in the older studies that were done if you raise your body temperature to
even to a hundred and two degrees Fahrenheit ID reception ceftriaxone has been shown to
be forty sixteen times more effective know what they do in clinics like in Germany where
they do hyperthermia is they keep people up to around one of six one of seven this is
normally developed for cancer treatments have I seen people get better with it I have
because the spirochete can be affected by heat what do I think it's necessarily a cure for
people the answer is no there are some that definitely going remission for periods of time
and I think it knocks down the load of the organisms but I don't know that it knocks it out
completely and I've spoken to the doctors in Germany I'm at this clinic where they do it at
Saint George's clinic and part of the thing they're not doing their wet leased from my patients
and others I know who've gone is you're not using bio Filmation's they're not using agents
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that hit these persist reforms.

Speaker 0: Easy thing to do a day or two before you start the hyperthermia and if I were
them I would basically look at this because it might increase the efficacy of the treatment but
so the answer is yes it can be helpful I just like for some hyperbaric oxygen I can be helpful
there are some people that you integrate a functional medicine they will tell you that
oxidative therapies with ozone and stuff can be helpful although it you've got to be careful
with it but you know I've listened to the stories I don't do these things personally myself but
I've listened to patient stories over thirty years of what they've done because they're they're
desperate they're looking for answers and they don't know where to turn so a lot of these
integrative therapies to help but honestly what and I told this in Washington the committee
the N. I. H. used to have.
Speaker 0: Basically a part of the N. I. H. that would look at alternative and complementary
medicine.
Speaker 0: There is no reason in the world that they can't get funding to look AT
hyperthermia for Lyme maybe it would provide a simpler and faster solution why not maybe
the dapsone protocol I'm talking about with two treatments hyperthermia would not get out in
a month we don't know until we do the studies but you gotta get funding and the N. I. H. has
to take an interest in you know look big pharma the pharmaceutical drugs obviously there's
issues but I use standard pharmaceuticals and god bless them they really help my patients
but you also have to do integrate a functional medicine crack can't just you you know
pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 1: What does not absolutely not you need to understand that when you take one
pill that's saying that everybody's going to get better from the still it's not real.
Speaker 0: Now.
Speaker 1: We've got to be our own advocates and so when you're talking about these for
sister drugs are there any side effects these persist or drugs because you know about stevia
an Oregon oil which I know the great but for sister drugs.
Speaker 0: Right so they the bottom busters like Stevie bio site in oregano oil Laura sonnet
lower side in model Lauren I Serra kept tastes on EDTA there's a lot of things agents for bio
film but among the persistent drugs the big ones right now are dapsone and another one
called I sold for my soul from was studied at Stanford University by Dr J..
Speaker 1: Yup.
Speaker 0: Yeah I figured that when we come out.
Speaker 1: At.
Speaker 0: A show basically in culture that was one of the most effective drugs for persist or
so about three four months ago a colleague of mine great line doctor doctor Kenneth leader
not publish the first three clinical cases on by cell from for Lyman BBC and he used it for
three months regular does two hundred fifty milligrams twice a day.
Speaker 0: Struck by the way costs a lot of her time reactions lot of inflammatory response
is not an easy drug to take I used to think dapsone because the characters this drug has
now moved to the number one on my list of causing her time a reaction dapsone got a half
life of like twenty eight hours your body in a few days I saw from has a half life of about
fourteen days.
Speaker 1: Move.
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Speaker 0: Now if once you start hurting this drugs in your body for a long time now that
being said I have a hundred and twenty people right now in three arms of a clinical study
one arm thanks all for Malone one arm Doxie rifampin and I saw from so I can compare it to
like Doxie rifampin dapsone which has been working well and the other arm is stocks
rifampin dapsone right anti soul from so people are on to persist your trucks and it's very
interesting watching the response is now you know I'll have to collect the data and I'll I'll do a
retrospective study and hopefully have a chance to publish it next year but what I'm saying
so far is this is a very potent drug I have to start off with tiny doses of buy sell from like a half
a pill twice a week the first couple weeks then I half a pill every other day for the next couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1: Then I have to pull the day.
Speaker 0: For the next two weeks then one till one day I happen next it takes me months to
get up to a full dose of just one pill twice a day because people really having severe
Horkheimer reactions where the inflammation gets worse and all other symptoms get worse
and they really can't function well.
Speaker 1: In they have to stop the study so we don't know yet.
Speaker 0: How effective die soul from is going to be in the long term because I can leave
your only published on three cases I will have a much better sense myself next year a Brian
Fallon who's a great researcher great psychiatrist you get one of the N. I. H. double blind
placebo controlled studies I'm he's doing a small clinical study and I sold from out of
Columbia University all right with thirty patients I've already got a hundred twenty that we're
looking at and rhyme was worried about the side effects like no Robert C. but so far I really
haven't seen it most of what I've seen is just.
Speaker 0: Herbal brain fog horrible fatigue so I don't yet have the answers of how this is
gonna work whether I saw from alone is is it as good or better than dapsone is my soul from
an dapsone better than dapsone alone I have a lot of unanswered questions but I will not
hopefully by sometime next year.
Speaker 0: Where kind of the chips are gonna fall and it's very exciting at this time and
thank god I honestly for the researchers these university based PhD researchers at the
lackey Dr young's on Dr J. at Stamford I thank him Lewis at northeastern doctor you for
shopping at the university of if it wasn't for them.
Speaker 0: We would not know about these pre sisters we would not know about the bio
film agents and I have a study that's in peer review right now it's a fifty two page paper
looking in culture at how dapsone and dapsone combination therapy works on the different
forms of Borrelia specifically the most resistant forms the bile film forms the procedures and
you'll see when the article gets published dapsone was the number one drug for hitting the
process your forms and Doxie rifampin dapsone was the number one drug for basically
hitting the bile from form so I did it backwards normally people doing culture and then take it
into the clinic I first found out what worked in the clinic and they took it back to the culture
and said we see if this works or not and it turned out that everything we're seeing in the clinic
actually panned out.
Speaker 1: How can you know because I there's so many people thank you so much for
watching today I'm so excited I hope that you continue learning and growing in the
classroom.
Speaker 0: With.
Speaker 1: All our teachers but how can somebody who really a sec get involved in one of
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these clinical trials or studies or anything so that we can you know be a part of the the the
exploration engrossed in this process.
Speaker 0: So I'm you should check through the local line groups LTA dot org the lime
disorder disease association with Pat Smith I'm she's great I mean she post up all the time
and anything new in line.
Speaker 0: A lot of the big lime foundation's focus online live line foundation there are many
good lime organizations out there I would contact your local organization to find out about
the clinical trials now I'm the cone foundation I forget the amount of millions I think it's a
hundred and fifty million or two hundred and fifty million they pledged towards lam research
so there is a call out for grants now and I know several researchers are submitting grounds
so there will probably be a whole.
Speaker 1: New.
Speaker 0: Set of clinical trials that are gonna be out in two thousand twenty after the cone
foundation reviews the ground so I would stay open go on the common foundation's website
on check in.
Speaker 0: There's gonna be a lot of new studies I have a feeling that are coming out next
year.
Speaker 1: That's awesome what a what a difference you're making not only have you
made a difference with us you know your patience the people that you are able to reach is
I'm hoping that everybody that is listening today has a notebook but know that this is this
class is going to be posted on YouTube later on so you can watch it over and over and over
again and take some notes because there's so much that's coming out us doctor or what it's
it's very overwhelming I love that you have the sixteen points that you know that we can we
can help ourselves that we can start kind of eliminating this but you know there's so much
with that we don't know we don't know and I'm just so grateful that you are not only making a
difference it within your circle and but you've gone much larger going to Washington and the
grants and all everything that your is so exciting I see it I mean you've been doing this for
over thirty years right.
Speaker 0: Correct.
Speaker 1: And you're so excited in your soul still so passionate.
Speaker 0: We're really close I mean there is hope for the line comedian and I've said this
many times when I'm interviewed.
Speaker 0: I'm I'm again a man with very little filter between brain and mouth when I tell the
line community there is hope my wife is now going on two years and she was relaxing for
twenty you know one years of our marriage and sick for another decade before we even
met.
Speaker 0: Thing is I've seen ill patients for decades gore responding to the dapsone
combination therapy and that's why for people who are interested you should share this with
your doctors.
Speaker 0: Just look up my name.
Speaker 0: Dr Richard Horowitz precision medicine part one precision medicine part two the
journal healthcare the journal the international journal of general medicine and you'll see in
these articles all the updates my publisher in fact from Saint Martin's want to be to write a
third book online and I said why would I just write a third book I just wrote fifty two pages into
published articles that is all the updates anyone could want to know yes it's free just go on
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and read these articles and share with your doctor right so I'm I'm trying to get the
information out there it's a lot of work by the way to publish these articles I don't think people
understand a behind the scenes what it's like.
Speaker 0: But it's sub again I you know these researchers we wouldn't be able to do we do
if it wasn't for the great researchers and for the lime organizations like we were sponsored
by bay area lime I'm bay area lime is working with the common foundation for years the sits
research foundation which is a five oh one C. three that I help form you know we've gotten
grants from people I mean if if it wasn't for people's generosity and these great lime
foundations none of the we wouldn't be moving ahead because again the government
funding has been lacking now we're gonna look at the congressional report and see okay we
gave Congress recommendations we told them we need more money now we're gonna look
at what the appropriations are going to be coming out in two thousand twenty but it I'm sure
we're gonna be getting more for.
Speaker 0: To make sure that those funds are coming can we write to a Congress can we
get what can we do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of the most important things and I've told this to people all the
time is tell your story at the local level to your state representatives I'm.
Speaker 0: At.
Speaker 1: In the assembly at the state level speak your congressman speak your senators
I went to Washington twice I'm the last time I went I mean apart from the checkpoint working
group I drove five hundred and thirty seven copies of my books signed and I gave them out
every member of Congress shortly after the book came out because I want to educate
Congress about this.
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: So it's very important my patients have gone to the local representatives told
their stories it does make a difference rates would never think that your story is lost the
reason by the way the tick borne working group and people should know this they have they
accept emails if you go on HHS dot gov front slash tick one working group you will see that
as a there's a place for emails all you have to do is go on the email link and tell your story if
you have a story to tell about what needs to be done how you have suffered what help
you've gotten from a treatment whatever it is tell your story and they are accepting these
emails I was working with Kristen honey when she was on the group last year and I was one
of the people reading every one of these emails that was coming from the public I'm I I I was
working with a great group of people and I can tell you the alpha gal got put on the map
because the women with alpha gal in the south just kept raising their voices and showing up
at the meetings and telling people how sick they were in the squeaky wheel really you know
to get lubricated to speak up tell people what's going on.
Speaker 0: Good to hear good to hear okay so I want to shift a little again I will I will you
know you talk about the generosity of the people that have help with these grants with
everything that's going on I also want to stop in acknowledge the generosity of my.
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Speaker 0: Are and lots of people who are interested in the US now there's a question but I
don't know if it's a question or it's a statement because there's not a Q. I'm asking everybody
to put you in front of the question but I'm just going to read it and I think I'm I'm gonna know
what you're gonna say but.
Speaker 0: Maureen wants to know what is the number one cause for patients not getting
better is a mold or yeast or what is it unique to everybody.
Speaker 1: It is you need and it's a very good question I mean lime is still probably really the
Lynch pin here if you get rid of lime a lot of times the co infections like the Beezy apart nala
and others they may not affect you was severely but I must say that along with lime these
confections that we're finding which I published in these two articles that were in the medical
journals this year they are making a lot of people sick but you're correct I mean it's
individualized in multiplexes you're showing up in over seventy percent of our patients some
of these likely toxins are immuno suppressive we did find that lime affect your immune
system where all of about twenty percent of our patients didn't make I. G. G. antibodies
which you need to fight bacterial infections so when people are sick and they're not getting
better the reason you've got to go to the M. sits map is for some it might be lower drills for
some it might be that they're not sleeping with low adrenals for summits they're not sleeping
lowered renewals in their mitochondria been affected and we still have Lyman active going
for and right so you get the idea so the point is yes I mean a lot of times it's environmental
toxins its detoxification problems it's leaking got its food allergies there's a lot of overlapping
factors keeping people well and that's in fact the sixteen point I'm six model.
Speaker 0: In the wind is.
Speaker 1: Still the number one factor that is making people severely ill but I have to put it
right behind there are the co infections I'm really finding the top some protocol with this
double dose we get seems to for all intents and purposes look like it's actually cure it I can't
use the work as they might have a few Bucks left in their body and they could relapse years
from now no one knows but for all intensive purposes they're in full remission for long
periods of time.
Speaker 0: Well.
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Speaker 1: But the common factions if they took that dapsone protocol and they're active
day sweats night sweats chills flushing air hunger I can't catch my breath cough I can't
explain those are classic symptoms a bit easier they did not respond to the dapsone protocol
the same.
Speaker 1: Hey even though dapsone hits but BC are fat Bartonella I'm and they use the
dapsone they did not get a long lasting effect so what's the cone factions for me on top of
the line it's on top of the list but yeah right hello what are environmental toxins detoxification
problems by the way even the psychiatric issues you were describing before chemical
sensitivity in these people that are sensitive a lot of these people get you know they get
posttraumatic stress disorder going to twenty doctors telling him it's all in their head and I
would like to tell about a website I just learned about this a few months ago at a mold
conference in Arizona that I went to was a lie Mull conference.
Speaker 1: There is a there's a woman in Canada any hopper and she developed this
technique called dynamic neural retraining system D. N. R. S. her website is can retraining
the brain dot com.
Speaker 1: When I spoke to doctors about this a lot of the people that have pots low blood
pressure that couldn't get better because line causes pots low blood pressure they do this
technique and heal the vagus nerve.
Speaker 1: All that had chemical sensitivity that we're super sensitive because they had
mass cell activation the cells in your body that a reduced releasing histamine and
leukotrienes of these inflammatory mediators some of them got help using this retraining the
brain I'm some of the people with depression and anxiety so what what I'm getting at here is
that this is a natural technique I just got it for my wife what did it for her my so I any speak at
the conference and my wife has pots in even though her Lyme symptoms are better if she
doesn't take her medications to raise your blood pressure you know I Peter and ping pong
everyday because your blood pressure is too low.
Speaker 0: So why.
Speaker 1: And she also like that I can tell you this right now she does not like this so it's a
technique I'm sharing it with people I'm I mean I have no financial you know link to this at all
I'm sharing it because it may be a tool that people need to put in their tool box but if you've
got depression anxiety Pete you know post treatment a stress you've got mold you've got
mast cell disorder you have chronic Lyme check I'm pretty sure any was misdiagnosed you
discusses inter video shows these pains moving around her body and my wife screaming at
the video you've got chronic.
Speaker 0: So.
Speaker 1: Honey stop yelling at the video it's like she got better even not knowing it was
line even that's even better using this technique so look into it I think it's around three
hundred dollars is not a fortune like going to a therapist for years I'm therapists have they're
always.
Speaker 0: There are all I have ever come on the on the in the classroom should be very
interesting I I mean I think for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's a well I think it takes it's a look because it's a tool in the toolbox for
people who are looking for answers.
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: And I was impressed because I asked a lot of doctors I don't have enough
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personal experience yet using it but doctors I've try did two training sessions by the way for
eighty doctors in the last two months that came to our Medical Center from all over the U. S.
Canada Mexico and I asked him raise your hands how many people here have used any
hopper at eight or nine people raise their hands thumbs up it looks like doctors are getting
results so it's another tool for people.
Speaker 0: Very good and you know what it's like you said we need to become our own MD
and that's why the book is is so useful so we can start checking off those little listen to our
body which is what I'm hearing you say so we have Alex who says that she's from the U. K.
thank you so much for all of you were watching us today in the classroom she was
misdiagnosed for six to eight years and sadly now late stage chronic Lyme is there any hope
can I be treated can she still be treated.
Speaker 1: Yes she should know that I contacted her health department on the NHS the
National Health Service in the UK I've had conversations with them before and I have the
email sent some of the people work at the the UK NHS and I did send them some of the
work that we've been doing and I let them know about that some protocols in the rest and I
you know I extended an olive branch if they'd like to come and talk in a speaking we did
speak by phone one time the answer is yes there is hope the the answer is though is they
put out what's called the nice guidelines they're separate guidelines that they came out with
in the UK which are guidelines for treating Lyme in diagnosing and treating and unfortunately
these guidelines don't really help people with chronic persistent line because there's so
many unanswered questions at least among.
Speaker 1: The researchers in a lot of the doctors out there it's not a mystery for someone
like me who's been doing this for so long in fact when I first met with Ben beard from the
CDC who is sitting on the Washington group the first time we met I'm one of the the
moderators John.
Speaker 1: John from John Hopkins university John Alcott said turn to the person next to
you and for two minutes telling whatever you'd like to say and I turn to banish the band.
Speaker 0: What.
Speaker 1: My medical office sometime come over my house you'll stay over you'll see what
I'm doing with patients you can see like how this works I think it was a little shocked and then
of course we become you know friends over time he's a he's a very sweet guy but it's like
yeah there's hope but you got to be communicating you know with your doctors your doctors
have to read these two articles that I just published on that some combination therapy they
should read my book they should look at the HHS dot gov.
Speaker 1: This he's working group website which has like probably close to eight or nine
hundred pages of peer review references most.
Speaker 0: Up to date.
Speaker 1: On epidemiology diagnosis treatment.
Speaker 1: Infections access to care it's all in there Garrett with your doctor shared with the
with the U. K. National Health Service.
Speaker 0: Okay so I know that we're almost at the end of the podcast but I want you guys
to stick around because any questions that you have will be if if we'll we'll go a little bit longer
for five or ten minutes with Dr Horowitz but for those of you who are listening on podcast or
watching later on on you too please know that you can always join us live in the classroom
at Facebook dot com forward slash billions radio show and that we have got to we can't wait
for somebody else to heal us the power is within us right doctor Horowitz.
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Speaker 1: It is up and.
Speaker 0: You.
Speaker 1: You do need to find a good team of people.
Speaker 0: Of course.
Speaker 1: But but but yes I mean you have to be your own patient advocate and that was
actually the Atlantic piece this morning is making just kept going from doctor to doctor being
her own advocate until she got answer she was just not going to accept I got to be
chronically tired with aches and pains with nerve pains and brain fog you don't accept that
you look for answers you don't give up until you find the.
Speaker 0: Amen amen and that's how I discovered that I had breast implant illness and
we're gonna be getting rid of that problem pretty soon and I'm going to see you know if we
just took a possible way everybody is different whatever it is that will make you feel better
may be different than mine but if we start working together and sharing this information can
you imagine what all of us together can do Dr Richard Horowitz I'm excited that we're gonna
have a little bit of a private party a little bit thank you for everything that you're doing.
Speaker 0: Thank you for having me on for those of you remember will be right here waiting
for you be your own advocate.
Speaker 0: This is only an internet wishing end doctor Richard Horowitz wishing you love
peace joy and unexpected abundance may get the best day.
Speaker 0: Her.
Speaker 0: Other doctors.
Speaker 0: There you go.