ell, This is really a good topic to start with and I hope we have a great GD

here.

I will in Favor of this decision by Mr. Kapil Sibbal,India's minister in charge of

higher education.
This decision will be a milestone in Indian Education System and I am sure
students will follow this tradition in full enthusiast. Our education system lacks
in quality courses in some areas and by allowing foreign universities in Indian
Education I think we will have exposure about how they deal with different
technologies and different resources. This will make students really productive
and we achieve new heights in our Developing Country.

This decision also helps in stopping students to stay in foreigns for higher
studies. As we are having Foreign Universities here itself in India then why
Students move to foreign for the same and this will really give new era to our
society.

This will lower the chances of Fraud to students as the foreign universities
have collaboration with Indian government directly. So chances of fraud will
be less and student gain their interested areas without having a brain drain.
Most people may think Indian Education system should not allow entrance of
foreign universities in India as they fear to affect their own courses running
with high profit. Their profit will be less if student move to foreign universities
but this will prove a really great thing if we have courses designed for
International level and our Indian Universities indeed need to adapt these
changes to motivate students to be productive and stay in India itself and
don't run to other countries for Job search.

This will really give new era to our Education system. I bet thins decision will
prove a milestone in Indian society and Indians will gain to its fullest in all
areas.

Regards
Amit Siwach
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Author: Karthik Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 70 Date:

21/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello,

To startup about this GD I am completely in favor of decision made by our

honorable minister Mr.Kapil Sibbal to collaborate foreign universities with us.

They are many reasons for my support to his decision, in his short span of
time he really brought a lot of change in the Indian education system. Today
we see that many graduate students are migrating to foreign countries for
Masters. Once a student drift to foreign country for higher education he/she
may invest a lot for their higher education and later on in order to earn their
money back that they have invested for higher education, they stay there and
hunt for their jobs and later they settle over there. In this way the country is
losing many precious graduates. By collaborating foreign universities the
students don't migrate and they can have the same quality education in their
home country and severe their nation.

Secondly, they are many universities in India which are outstanding at

bachelors level but not so good at Master's level except the prestigious IIT's
and NIT's. The reason for this is that at master's level you need to do lot of
research work and unfortunately our country is unable to produce such labs.
This is another main reason for students migrating to foreign countries.

Thirdly, the country requires around twenty thousands post graduate students
every year in the field of Engineering but they are only 50% of the seats
available, so obviously the rate of production of post graduates are less. All
these reasons are the main cause of many students to drift to foreign
countries for higher education.

To sum up, its a very good decision made by Mr.Kapil Sibbal to collaborate
with foreign universities to improve the value of Indian education. I would
strongly say that if not today at-least in another couple of years with this
decision of collaborating with foreign universities will bring a remarkable
change in our education system and more over the country can produce as
many post graduates as required.

Regards,
Karthik.
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Author: deepak gogoi Member Level: Silver Member Rank: 708 Date:

22/May/2010 Rating: Points: 4

Hai,
The decision taken by honorable Mr.Kapil Sibbal, minister in charge higher
education in India is a commendable one.No doubt we have massive brain
drain in the name of higher education along with lost to revenue in the name
of Government sponsored scholarships. So it will be check mate to some
extent.
How ever one thing that bothers, are we Indian will be as honest and devoid
of corruption. As these foreign University will pump in huge amount of money
and material. We must not forget that though Indians has excelled outside but
still we have murky picture of taking bribe and misappropriation of fund.
Is our educationist,administrators and policy formulator of higher education
are prepared to shield the impact ?
Author: Shiv Thantharatey Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 324

Date: 22/May/2010 Rating: Points: 2

Hi
It's a good decision by our honorable minister Mr.Kapil Sibbal.
It will give our student a chance to study in reputed foreign university in India.

Author: Vellamji Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 300 Date:

22/May/2010 Rating: Points: 4

Iam infavour of the decision taken by our honourable minister.There ara many
students who go abroad to pursue higher education as their educational
system is more standard and due to the craze of westernisation..With the
intorduction of foreign universities in India,there will be less chances for brain
drain.However,there should be alternatives arranged so that Indian students
will get equivalent jobs in India itself rather than going abroad..students opt for
foriegn university based education so that they will get good job and pay.

Author: Malhar Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 157 Date:

22/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

In March 2010, the Union Cabinet gave its nod to the HRD Minister's proposal
to allow foreign universities to set up operations in India. The Foreign
Educational Institutions bill has now been submitted to parliament for its
approval. Even though there's a lot of excitement in the air about this
proposed bill, this clearly is the case of misplaced priorities by the
government.

It is a fact that each years, thousands of students leave the Indian shore for
perusing higher education, thereby yearly $4 billion being drained out of the
country. It is also a fact that barring the IITs and IIMs, there are hardly any
institutes of international standard in India. The status of higher education in
the country s pathetic. But to invite foreign universities to clear up the mess is
hardly the solution.

Firstly the gap between demand and supply of intake capacity for higher
education is so large that even if some foreign universities set up their shops,
this gap is unlikely to be filled. Secondly, the impression is being created that,
as soon as the bill gets through, the foreign universities will line up in front of
Kapil Sibbal with initial investment of 50 Crores (as required in the provisions
of bill). It will certainly be not so. In all probability, world's top institutes like
Oxford and Yale will keep away. Instead, a plethora of B-grade universities
may just flood the market to make easy money!
There's a mad craze about education abroad especially amongst the neo-
affluent section of the society. So, even if the foreign universities do set up
their branches here, this section of students, attracted more by the western
lifestyle than by the quality of education, will still look westwards. What is
more, the Indian branches of these universities will offer courses at much
more higher fees than their Indian counterparts, that will make these institutes
out of reach of common man!

What the government and especially Mr.Kapil Sibbal, the self proclaimed
messiah of educational reforms, is conveniently ignoring is the fact that
Indian universities are, and can be as good as the best in the world, but are
severely crippled by complex rules and procedures, red tape, political
interference etc. Instead of addressing these ground realities, the HRD
minister is looking towards these foreign institutes to put his house in order.
That is why I say that the bill is a case of misplaced priorities and will serve no
purpose as far as improving the state of higher education in India.

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Author: Amit Siwach Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 138 Date:

23/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Malhar has brought the GD back to track by opposing this Decision of
Government.

We really are not of world class in higher studies. There are several big
names and big persons which have gone to foreign for higher studies. This is
because we lack the content of resources and technology being used in other
countries.

The way other countries influence their students by having some exploratory
and easy understandable methods do we have those? I dont think here in
India except few universities serves the world class higher education.

Though we have Indians who studied here in India and made ground in other
countries and doing well there. But the fact is how much they have to struggle
for this level. At least one has to do a course to find a job in foreign. Ain't this
a drawback in Indian Education.
To make our Indian Education of World class, we have to import there way of
teaching and their course contents which made them easy to search a job and
how to be a success.

I would though like this concept as this will give more emphasize on studies
and study material also the way we are turning our career by having new
syllabus in India. This will impact our system.
I also like to say that we Indian do adopt things easily but we know what is
bad and what is good for us. If we had Western universities here then lifestyle
is not supposed to come. As you are an adult when you move to college or
university hence we can not say that western Lifestyle will impact us.
Don't we have lifestyle adopted years back when English came in to India. We
have to concentrate on the level of our higher education and have to adopt
things from other countries which seems to impact us on development basis.

Regards
Amit Siwach
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Author: m k mathai Member Level: Bronze Member Rank: 1797 Date:

23/May/2010 Rating: Points: 4

our education system is probably one of the best in the world. that is why our
boys and girls are gainfully employed all over the world.

so what great content can be offered by the foreign universities who want to
come to india is not clear.

yet we indians still have that craze for things foreign. so let us welcome the
foreign universities.

anyway there is no logic in opposing the idea. at least they are bringing in
more opportunities for higher studies especially in the technology sector.

Author: Karthik Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 70 Date:

23/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello,

As said my Mr.Amit Siwach, Mr.Malhar has made this GD lively by opposing

the decision.

Well Mr.Malhar you said that most of the students are attracted to western
lifestyle than the quality of education over there and as most of them are
attracted by their culture even though these universities if established in India
serve no real use. This might be true in case of around 10 to 15% of the
students, but the remaining 85% of the students are mainly for studying and
earning their jobs. So if a foreign universities are collaborated with Indian
universities these 85% of the students are going to stay back in India and can
be turned out as a useful fruit to our country.

I myself serves as live example for this. I have finished my B.Tech and now
planning to do MS in USA. I have applied for some universities and got admit.
Moreover I don't know how many of you are aware of this, there is one foreign
university which has already been collaborated with some of the Indian
universities like IIIT-H, JNTU-H, AU etc for the last few years and offers a
course MSIT(Master of Science in Information Technology) which is
equivalent to MS. I have also applied for this university and if I get admit I am
going to stay back in India. One more thing is that IIIT-H also offers M.Tech
on its own and the people who applied for this course in IIIT-H are less. The
reason for this the low quality education at masters level but the same
university when collaborated with foreign university and offers MSIT there are
abundant students who have applied for this course. The reason for this is
quite simple since it is a foreign university and the quality of education is
definitely much far better than us at masters level.

I can even support my statement by saying that, lets consider the general
case, today we see many students after 3 to 4 years of spending their life in
foreign countries are returning back. One main reason for this is the "self-
satisfaction" which they can't get there. So if these people are attracted to
western life then they need to stay there for a long period, but this is not the
case. Once the students finish their masters they are staying there for another
2 or 3 years to earn what they have invested and little bit more and returning
back to home country. Only few people are residing over there permanently.
In order to protect these few people and making them to retain in our country
and serve their talent for the nation we need to collaborate with foreign
universities for higher education.

Regards,
Karthik.
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Author: Nikhil Shelke Member Level: Gold Member

Rank: 93 Date: 24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello everyone,

The foreign University bill seeks

"to regulate entry and operation of foreign educational institutions imparting or
intending to impart higher education (including technical education and award
of degree, diploma and equivalent qualifications by such institutions)."

Every developmental scheme has certain pros and cons. Similarly this bill has
certain cons as pointed out by Mr. Malhar. Some of them are absolutely right
but some are not right. But looking at the larger picture, this bill will definitely
revolutionize higher education in India and will be a major step in reducing
brain drain.

Regarding your point about the gap between demand and supply for higher
education, it is true that there is very high demand for higher education and
more so for quality higher education in India. But this bill will only help to
bridge the gap. It may not completely fill the gap, but within certain amount of
time it will not remain such a big factor.

Maybe the top Universities will not come. Maybe there will not be a line of
Universities outside the door of Mr. Kapil Sibbal. But whatever Universities will
come will definitely wont be B-grade as you mentioned. Why will a foreign
University invest crores of rupees to set up infrastructure in India if it is
already sub-standard? Just for a statistic, only the IITs and IIMs and a few
other colleges in the country are capable of providing world class education in
India. Almost all the Universities in U.S. and a few from Australia, U.K and
Germany are ranked much higher than even our IITs. No wonder so many
students are attracted to go abroad. So, even if Yale and Oxford do not come,
there are many world class universities which will come. In fact Imperial
College, Duke College,Georgia Tech and the Schulich School of Business
have already set up plans and are in talking terms with Mr. Kapil Sibbal.
Following these many others will rope in. University presidential delegations
from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon and Purdue have come to
India when the bill was announced in 2006 initially. It is very likely that these
universities will join sooner than later.

As Karthik said there are very few students who are attracted by their lifestyle.
And even if they are, withing a few years they feel attraction to their
homeland. The main reason for the brain drain is the kind of education and
job opportunities available abroad. Most important is the earning in dollars
abroad.

Once you have Universities coming in India, they will come offering jobs not
only in India but also abroad. This will result in huge savings as cost of living
in India is very less. When a student goes abroad, he spends nearly Rs.15 to
20lakh overall. Out of this only 30% is the tuition fees. Most of the Universities
have tuition fees of only Rs. 3 to 7lakh per annum. Now, if he is getting the
same education and same job opportunities from India itself, why will he go
abroad? This will not only prevent a lot of brain drain but will also be a
milestone of providing quality education in India.

Finally, I would finish concluding that this bill will definitely be a milesone for
higher education in India. I am definitely in support for the bill.

Regards,
Nikhil Shelke

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Author: Vandana Member Level: Diamond Member

Rank: 7 Date: 24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Foreign Universities in India? Why have them & Why we should not
have them are the two points to be discussed in this GD.
Let's begin with the 'Why' - why we should welcome this move: It is
not just a question of stopping the brain drain, but also financial
drain. After all, it is unlikely that the student is paying for his/her
aspirations. It is the parents and/or family members who have to
cough up the amount. An airline ticket alone costs a bomb! Then
there are the tuition fees, the books, the accommodation (even for
on-campus room you need to pay), food, travel money for moving
around in the foreign city, etc. Is it worth it to drain your family's
financial pockets? I don't think so. By having foreign universities
right here, the expenses are definitely considerably reduced.

Secondly, you may be aware that in foreign universities there is

often a varied choice of subjects which may not even be related.
You can, for example, study for a Master's Degree in English
Literature and, simultaneously, study for a Master's Degree in Music.
Which Indian University actually offers such a varied choice? Here,
you will have to do both these subjects separately, perhaps one
after the other, which means more years spent in education than
you would like. With India opening its doors to foreign Universities,
students would certainly welcome the chance to study in more than
one field.

Thirdly, it is quite possible that the entry of foreign universities will

create more career oppurtunities. From an acquaintance I came to
know of an educated Professor with many years teaching
experience being denied a chance to teach in a top Institute here
only because his Ph.D. was not of a foreign university! Of course,
that's totally ridiculous and unfair. Maybe the entry of a foreign
university offering a Ph.D. could land that Professor the much-
coveted teaching job.

Regards,
Vandana
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Author: Vandana Member Level: Diamond Member

Rank: 7 Date: 24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 5

Now let's see the other side of the coin - why we should not
welcome foreign Universities in India:

Firstly, as in India, there could be foreign universities which are not

really universities in the true sense of the word. How is the
Education Minister going to keep a tab on a flood of so-called foreign
Universities jumping into the fray to make a quick buck? In the
name of education, we could have universities setting up shop here,
taking fees, and not providing the requisite education, perhaps even
closing up after some time. Also, are foreign universities going to be
allowed to physically set up their infrastructure here? If so, it is higly
likely that our wonderful bureaucrats rub their hands in glee at the
very thought of making money from bribes to get things done
quickly!

Secondly, who is going to guarantee that the degrees offered by

them are valid/genuine?

Thirdly, will a foreign university degree give 100% guarantee that it

will get the student a job? Suppose prospective employers refuse to
accept such a degree as eligibility? What is the student supposed to
do? Enrol for a degree course all over again with an Indian
University?!

Regards,
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Author: RR Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 110 Date:

24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

If we go by the history of globalization in India we see that a section of people
and political parties were against the enterance of MNCs in India. Lot of
protests were seen across India. People had this apprehension that this will
lead to unemployment. Some people also had the view that the MNC's will
take over Indian companies and will rule Indian markets.

When we see the results today it is altogether different. The globalization

gave way for huge employment opportunities for the Indian youth. The
standard of living improved drastically and the salaries shot up vertically.

The Indians companies grew and made their mark in the world market. The
standard of indian companies and quality of their products also improved to
match the International Standards.

Similarly I think with the advent of the Foreign Universities the standard of
education will improve further. The Indian Universities in order to survive will
pull up their socks to match the International Standards.

With the intense competition we will see improvement in quality and decrease
in fee structure. The education will become economical and affordable for the
Indians.
I see a great future of Indian Education system with the arrival of Foreign
Universities.

Government allowing the Foreign Universities does not mean they have all
the powers and work as per their norms. There will be certain guidelines by
the Government of India and they have to follow them.

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh Rana
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Author: RR Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 110 Date:

24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 4

By allowing the Foreign Universities doesn't mean every Tom Dick and Harry
will come and open his University or any University can enter India. There will
be set norms and standards that these universiies need to meet before they
are given license to enter India.

It is the same way the permission is given to the Foreign Life Insurers or
Banks who are doing business in India and people trust them and invest their
money. The Government will take care of all these things before granting
permissions to the Universities.

There is no point to worry here. We will get to see big names here in India.
There will be no need to go to Australia, UK or US for higher studies. We will
have the same standard here in India.

Thanks and Regards

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Author: Deeptesh Sharma Member Level: Gold Member

Rank: 148 Date: 24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 3

Hi,

As foreign universities are entered into India it will decrease the admission
rate in Indian universities and also students who are going foreign countries
for education will also decrease.

India is having one of the best education system in the world but it can be
improved and be among the top. By few foreign universities entered will not
effect our education system but it will change it.
Best Regards,
Deeptesh Sharma

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Author: Karthik Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 70 Date:

24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello Vandana Mam,

You have raised some valid questions in your second response. I have
answers for some of your questions, as you said that "who is going to
guarantee that the degrees offered by them are valid/genuine?" if a foreign
university is going to collaborate with the Indian university the degree to the
students is given in the name of Indian university and not on the name of
foreign university, in this way the foreign universities which are going to be
established here are working for the betterment of our education system. As
stated by me in my previous response regarding the course MSIT, this is
course started by one of the foreign university, Carnegie Mellon University, in
collaboration with some of the universities in AP like JNTU-H, IIIT-H, AU, OU,
SVU. For the last few years this course has gained immense popularity and
the degree is given in the name of those universities of AP on not on the
name of Carnegie Mellon University. So there is definitely a quality education
produced by this university and since the degree is in the name of our Indian
Universities it will be valid degree.

Coming to your other question "will a foreign university degree give 100%
guarantee that it will get the student a job?" No university irrespective of
Indian or Foreign can guarantee 100% job for all students. They can provide
job opportunities by bringing on campus placements, thats all a university can
do, later on it depends on the student to what extent he can maximize the
opportunity. In general no company will refuse this degree as I have seen
many students from IIIT-H who have been well placed with MSIT degree. If
any company refuses their degree, why will our government encourage such
an act? Moreover no student wishes to study in such a university and the step
taken by them is going to be of no use. If the act is been implemented the
government will make sure that the degree is valid anywhere in the world.

Regards,
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Author: salma Member Level: Silver Member Rank: 794 Date:

24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 4
hello friends,
i have a mixed opinion about foreign universities coming in our country, these
universities are not those who made it to the top of the most popular
universities in the world, however these foreign university would also hold a
bright future to us, cause of their education system will allow Indian student to
explore much beyond the current system. We can also expect some
standardization of the education from being just a degree to giving meaning to
it.
finally i want to concluded saying that we always have had a special place for
foreign universities and its pretty safe for them to come to India rather let our
students suffer there in their homeland campus.

Author: Amit Siwach Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 138 Date:

24/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

This is really enthusiastic when we see such responses from all members.
Concern here is if we are going to take advantage of this offer or we are going
to give advantage to universities by throwing them bulk money.

As far as fees structure is concerned to these upcoming universities in India if

everything goes right, I believe we must have a predefined Fee Structure
which will be affordable by Indian students. Now if we have reasonable Fee
Structure and quality of Course content of International level, Then what is
harm in that. We are suppose to study the things which whole world is
studying and getting familiar to new technologies. By offering these
universities to step in India we believe we brought our Education system in
much broader way than we have now. We all know we are limited in some
courses and do not offer best quality with respect to interest of students.

I would like to say as we are going to new era of education then what is harm
in implementing new courses which can bring new direction to our technology
and resources. I know we are not much behind with the world but new
universities should bring such courses which can give maximum to
development in Indian infrastructure and can support Indian development by
validating the things we can have as new entrepreneurship and new ideas to
develop our country.

I still can say this act by Mr. Kapil Sibbal will prove a milestone in Indian
Education System. When we have limelight on international courses then our
universities lack behind and once we setup such infrastructure then we can
develop our course to furnish more and can avoid all kinds drains.

Regards
Amit Siwach
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Author: eshant Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 275 Date:

25/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hi friends,

The topic is very fresh and intersting, so thanks Jose.

First of all it is very obvious that most of the people in India will welcome
foreign universties while others will oppose the decision.

But if we think in a little broad manner, the entrance of these universities

would be having the following effects:-

- It will help raising the standards of Indian Education System , though

we have IITs/IIMs here, which are landmarks of quality education, but for
large population of India, the number of good institutions in India is still very
less.

- It will save millions of rupees spend by Indian students every year. In

universties like YALE and HAVARD, lot of Indians are spending millions of
rupees to get a quality education. So entrance of foreign universities will save
those expenses and will help students who don't have very strong economic
background.

-It will reduce the stress and pressure. Now a days most of the Indian
students are trying very hard to get into IIT or IIM, as these are the only best
institutes in India providing very high quality education. Some students
commit suicides when they fail to get into these institutes, which is very sad.
Universities like YALE is planning to setup their colleges in India,
opportunities will be more and it will help students a lot to get good education.
So I would welcome the decision of Mr. Sibbal.

-Helpful in the overall development of country. Foreign universities

providing high end education will help producing good leaders and efficient
employees. So it will help in setting up more industries in India and will help to
reduce unemployment rate which is a very prominent problem, India is facing
now a days.

So If we think about goodwill of our students and country, the decision

deserves the standing ovation.

Thanks,
Eshant :)
Author: Malhar Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 157 Date:

25/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello!
May I correct Mr Karthik? I haven't opposed the FEI bill. My stand is that even
if these foreign universities enter India, it will hardly improve the quality of
higher education in our country.

While most of the members are welcoming the foreign institutions, the real
issue is something else. The topic of this GD is, "Entrance ( Entry? English
experts, please confirm! ) of foreign universities in India-How it will affect
Indian education?" I would like to draw attention of fellow members towards
the question tag line – "How will it affect Indian Education?"

Now that the government has submitted the bill in parliament, and looking at
the insipid approach the MPs usually take towards such academic issues, the
bill will be passed in all probability. The question is, will it solve its purpose? I
am afraid I don't think it will.

The HRD minister seeks to stop the outflow of nearly 2 lakh students every
year and with them a cash outflow of $4 billion. Will this bill be successful in
stopping this outflow? Unlikely, because those who are glamour struck will
continue to look towards US, UK and Australia etc.

The HRD ministry hopes to attract world's top universities to set up its branch
operations in India. Again it is too optimistic. Top institutions would like to wait
and watch government's approach before they decide to take plunge. On the
contrary, it is more likely that second rung institutions may jump the
bandwagon with a motive to make easy money.

Even if some of the foreign universities do start their branches on Indian soil,
will they bring along their top faculties here? There's already a apprehension
that these institutions will siphon out best available teachers our renowned
institutions like IIT and IIM. (The HRD minister had to vehemently deny this.)
So, the HRD ministry is out to undermine our prime institutions in order to
promote the foreign counterparts. Hence, if anything, the decision is likely to
affect Indian education adversely.

It is not yet clear whether these universities are required to follow the
government's policy of reservation for underprivileged sections of society. If
so, will these institutes subsidize the cost of education? It is unlikely to be so
as top universities are extremely quality conscious. Hence quality education at
affordable fees will continue to elude the common Indian student.

From what can be gathered from news reports, the proposed Foreign
Educational Institutions bill (FEI Bill) will grant privileges to them vis-à-vis the
Indian universities. And that will kill the Indian education system. As one
renowned academician observed, "our own universities will become like
municipal schools where children of poor and deprived go to receive no
education". The Congress led UPA government says it will uphold the
interests of the common man. What happens to the lofty ideals of social
justice when the quality education is available to privileged few and remains
out of reach of common student community?

Hence I stick to my opinion that inviting foreign investment in higher education

is not the solution to sorry state of higher education in India. Instead of
addressing the real issues, Mr.Kapil Sibbal is misleading the youth of this
country by saying that the entry of foreign universities will bring about radical
change. It is indeed far from true. Upwardly mobile youth may well believe,
but a balanced view suggests otherwise.

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Author: julie jha Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 247 Date:

25/May/2010 Rating: Points: 5

Hello everyone,

The decision of the government to allow entry of foreign universities in India

through the Foreign Educational Institutional Bill is bound to evoke mixed
responses.

There are cretain issues to be pondered over before reaching a decision.No

doubt,students will have a wide array of choices and they would not need to
travel and stay offshore and eventually work there.

Here,institutions will face stiff competition which shall result in improving over
all performance.

The need for graduates in India in the next 5 years is going to be about 6 lakh
more from the number that will be available at that time so this decision may
provide the same with no compromise on quality.

But,India has been marred by corruption and personal interests of politicians

and bureaucrats so much that people have lost faith and they are thus not
ready for such a move.They would rather have their own universities
revamped and raised to par with foreign universities.

Lets hope the efforts are sincere and for the betterment of the country.

Author: Gyandeep Kaushal Member Level:

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In India the condition of education is really pitiable when seen at times. So,
this topic is really nicely discussable. Really, seeing the status of colleges in
India, sometimes a silly notion comes in my mind that I should not study any
more after my matriculation. The reason is not that the teachers of India are
just useless, without any soul in their pit, but yes, but rather, according to me,
the universities are more over to be blamed. Just check the universities like
VTU, the biggest technological institute in all Asia, however, being a big name,
only the students know the insider story.

My brother, being a student of colleges under VTU University told me the

condition of these so called big universities. He told me something about the
marking thing and that is the prime reason which makes me afraid on
pursuing education after matriculation, though I will have to study more. He
told me that it is not necessary that a teacher of the subject 'Microprocessors'
is going to check the paper of that subject, however a teacher of 'Operating
System' who may not have specific knowledge about the subject may be given
a standard answer sheet with optimum answers which is basically built on
word game. The paper might consist of the same answers many other would
write but it is the word thing, there are some specific words which the
examiners shall look into the answers, and if not present, marks shall be
deducted. Now if a student uses a synonym, that word won't be found which
the checker was searching for. So what is it – checking the papers of searching
keywords in Google? I think the latter fits correctly.

Here, I am presenting some points which strengthen the base of the fact that
entrance of foreign universities shall better the condition of Indian education.

Good factors which may be seen upon

entrance of foreign universities into India

Here are the factors –

Fulfilling the greed - Every year many aspirants leave their motherland
India just in order to approach some foreign colleges affiliated to foreign
universities for higher education like engineering, medical etc. According to
the perceptions which many Indian students possess, the foreign institutes are
better than those in India. So just for studying higher courses, a big
unpredictable sum of money goes out of India. Perhaps, this amount may be
saved a bit if those foreign universities set up their branches in India itself.

Better education - It is very much possible that maybe the foreign

universities will provide better education in India. Since I have not
experienced foreign education, I do not know much about it, however, it won't
be wrong if I agree with the perceptions of the majority of senior students
group.

Some income - Perhaps, if the bill for allowing foreign universities passes,
the foreign universities will surely try to settle their businesses in India, and
for this, they will have to buy the land, and pay some taxes etc. which may be a
cause of good income of Indian govt. especially state govt. of various states.

Bettered condition in International relationship - Perhaps the

entrance of the foreign people in India might also better up the international
relationships between India and other country adding something to what we
all call international peace. Let us see how much this works. However, if those
foreigners, especially those from the white-skinner countries, have changed
their mentality a bit, then surely it will add to international peace.

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Author: Gyandeep Kaushal Member Level:

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In this post, namely my second post in the group discussion, I am going to
voice on the demerits which may be experienced upon entrance of foreign
institutes in India.

Bad factors that may be faced upon entrance

of foreign institutes in India

Disrespect to Indian institutions / universities - Some may call this

opinion of mine as a foul opinion. One may give examples of clothes and
traditions that if we call enjoy wearing jeans instead of dhotis then why can't
we have foreign universities in India, what is the mere problem? But I'd say
that everything is on one side but the name guru is something else. It may be
disrespect to those Indian teachers who teach in government schools as
government teachers but really work hard and one cannot generalize things
just like that, I believe.

Sectionalism - It is very much possible that upon the entrance the

sectionalism of high and low, the rich and poor may amplify and just go on
increasing. One student studying in IIT, one in a foreign university, who is
better, questions of such category, may begin arising.

No bridging of gaps - There is a saying in Hindi - door ke dhol suhawane,

which means that whatever we don't experience, seems to be really beautiful,
or whatever we see from far away seems more beautiful than it actually is.
Perhaps there will be no bridging of gaps of the foreign universities and the
Indian students and the things remain the same.

Big loss - In India, especially when it comes to colleges, incomes are really
high. The Indian institutes will begin facing losses while the teachers will lose
respect. The Indian gross income may face a comparatively high loss due to
many students paying the fees to the foreign universities.

No big bang - I am sure that big universities and colleges like the Cambridge,
the Oxford, the Stanford, all these big hat cats will not show their presence in
India, I believe, for they appear to think that if they come in India and open up
their stalls, perhaps no high income will be generated and perhaps the Indian
students will lose craze to go abroad and pay the foreign institutions a very
high fees and perhaps the foreign governments shall also face a strive.

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Author: Nikhil Shelke Member Level: Gold Member

Rank: 93 Date: 25/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

I would like to comment on a few point raised by some of the members.

@Vandana

Karthik rightly answered two of your queries. No university in the world can
guarantee a job. But when a foreign University is investing a lot of money in
India by setting up a huge infrastructure, recruiting high quality staff and all
political formalities, obviously they have certain motive behind this. It is not
just money they are interested in. They will be coming here to produce quality
engineers and managers who will fill the requirements of numerous jobs
available in India and abroad. Also, these Universities will have to fulfill all the
criteria set up by our government. So, the question of authenticity of the
degree in the University or the University itself stands null.

"are foreign universities going to be allowed to physically set up their

infrastructure here?"
Yes the foreign University is allowed to set up their infrastructure here and
your fear that corruption will increase due to this. Very true. But corruption is
everywhere. So, our politicians will definitely like to use some water from this
foreign education river.

@Malhar
I know you feel very strongly that the outflow of Indian students abroad for
higher education is due to attraction to western lifestyle. But this is not true. I
have explained this point in my first post.

Your second point about the type of Universities that will come up will be of
lower quality and second rung institutions. Again I have explained this earlier.
Even if we do get second or even the third rung of Universities, it is unlikely
that they will come here only to make money. The primary objective of any
university to set up branches is to increase their reputation and provide quality
educaion and not make money. MHRD sources say around 50 foreign
universities had already evinced interest in setting up campuses in India. This
include Harvard, Yale, Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Boston
University. Imperial College, Duke College, Georgia Tech have made their
plans already. These are no second rung universities and students all round
the globe only dream to get admits from these universities.

Your point about reservation of students is very important. As far as I have

read, the rights of admissions, education, courses and fee structure solely lies
with the Universities. They have complete autonomy regarding these issues.
The agenda that common man will suffer is definitely not true. Scholarships
are awarded to students who are brilliant and who cannot afford education.
So, I feel there should not be any reservations here.

Regarding the kind of faculty they will appoint may be a point of concern. But,
the foreign University will never compromise on the quality of teachers. So, I
believe it is safe to assume that the faculty recruited will be of high quality and
if not found in India, they will invite professor from abroad.

I did not understand your last point regarding Indian universities becoming
municipality schools. I request you to please elaborate a little.

Finally I would conclude by apologizing to both of you. You are very senior to
me and have a lot of experience. I am just expressing my opinion based on
news reports and discussions with friends and relatives which happens to
contradict you. So, if I am wrong regarding any matter please correct me and
forgive me.

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Author: Karthik Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 70 Date:

25/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hello,
After reading all the responses carefully, I came to an understanding that
most of you are thinking that the foreign universities which enter may be B
grade universities. well to startup as rightly pointed by Gyandeep Kaushal in
his first response regarding VTU university the scenario is almost similar in all
the universities in India. The person who corrects the paper need not be of the
same background, what all he needs is that he/she is from a valid recognized
university and they need to know the English language. Recently in JNTU-H
many students failed in the first semester, when they applied for revaluation
around 70% of the students had changes in their marks with a drastic
improvement i.e. around 15 to 20 marks increase than the previous marks.
This means that the fate of the student is decided by one greedy teacher. To
what extent is this correct? On the other hand the foreign universities mainly
relay on weekly assignments and not on these semester or yearly exams. So
by introducing such systems we can have change in the Indian education
system.

Secondly, the foreign universities mainly rely on lab work to judge the level of
the student but in India most of the universities give focus to theory subjects.
If the total marks in the semester is for 750 of which the lab weight-age will be
only 150 and the remaining 600 are for theory subjects. If this is the case
where is the scope for the student to gain practical knowledge? The foreign
universities follow the credit system, we follow the pass or fail system.

Thirdly, in foreign universities when a professor gets a project, he allocates

some part of his work to his students and pays them in return, these are
commonly termed as Research Assistantship. We find libraries in any
universities, in these libraries we find some assistants working there to
arrange the books, issue the books to students. Why do you want to hire
these people from outside the university? Instead the university can hire the
students from their university and provide some money or fee wavier to poor
students. This process of hiring the students as lab assistants or librarians in
foreign university is commonly termed as Teaching Assistantship Can
anyone tell me any such university in India which offers Research and
Teaching Assistantship to their students? In contrast all the foreign
universities provide Teaching and Research Assistantship to their students.

Irrespective of the grade of the university, whether it is a top university or a B

grade university or a low level university the above mentioned points are
followed by all the foreign universities.

To sum up, I would say that by welcoming foreign universities, even the B-
Grade universities, we can definitely find a change in our education system.
Finally, at masters level a B-Grate foreign university can provide a far
better education system than the education in the present Indian
universities (excluding IIT's and IIM's).

Regards,
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Author: Malhar Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 157 Date:

27/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Ever since India has opened up its economy to the world, foreign direct
investment has flooded Indian economy. India has apparently made rapid
strides in economical development. But unfortunately, the Indian industry,
especially Indian public sector has been severely eroded.

Take the example of BSNL, which was the giant in telecom sector till a few
years ago. But ever since the sector has been opened for private sector, the
company is reduced to an also ran organization in the cut throat race of
telecom companies. Indian Oil and ONGC were once the jewels in the crown
of Indian public sector. Now with the likes of Reliance entering the Oil
business, they are a pale shadow of their own glorious past. Indian public
universities await similar fate with foreign universities poised to enter Indian
higher education 'market'.

My young friends in ISC are excited about the prospects of getting opportunity
to receive education of 'foreign brand'. It is understandable given the
fascination of the young towards everything that is of foreign origin. But, as I
had said in my earlier post, getting admission to these institutions will be
possible for privileged few. Rest of the students, crippled with socio-economic
background will be condemned to go to Indian teaching shops.

Scenario of India's higher education is bleak to say the least. It has collapsed
while trying to do the balancing act between the policy of reservation,
subsidize cost of education and quality of education. The government is not
able to fulfill the requirements of funds to nearly 500 public universities and
more than 25,000 affiliated colleges.

Most of the universities in the west are 'public' in true sense of word. Many of
them are listed on Stock exchanges. They raise money from public equity.
They are hardly relying on government grants. By encouraging research,
universities raise finance through patents. Why has the HRD minister not
thought of making the universities self reliant?

People always complain of lack of quality in education provided by Indian

universities. But they ignore the fact that the have very little authority to decide
on the admission rules, fees structure, recruitment of staff etc. It is but natural
that they lack the necessary physical and intellectual infrastructure. It's the
government's obligation to provide adequate funds or allow them to raise
money through bonds, debentures and donations. There's no doubt in my
mind that if our own institutions are adequately funded, they will also rise to
international standards and there's no need to invite foreign intervention to
uplift standard of education in India.

India was once a preferred location for studies by the foreigners. The Taxila
and Nalanda universities attracted students from worldwide. It is ironic that
in spite of glorious past, we are left to look for help to improve our educational
system.

In my earlier posts, I had expressed my apprehension if top universities will

show any interest in coming to India. Whether top or second rung universities
come here, whether or not they maintain high quality, all this Sibbal formula
will result into is a gradual decay of Indian universities. This bill is surely a
start of end of 'Indian' education system.

P.S. I had also maintained that the craze of foreign institutions will continue to
prevail among those who have enough (more than enough) resources. Here's
one current example. Only today, the girl who topped IIT JEE today has made
it clear that she prefers MIT in US to IITs. I am sure this is not just a one off
exception.

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Author: Amit Siwach Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 138 Date:

27/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Highly appreciable and very true thoughts by Malhar, I agreed all Malahar
stated above. Main concern of Education is to Educate student in a direction
so as they can stand anywhere in the world and do never lack their basic
education.

I still believe we have such a high quality education system for the basic
education which will never be beaten by other countries. We have so many
courses running all around and students attend them in bulk.

My concern arises when one student is not enough capable of understanding

the things by himself then the need of tutor comes and we agree todays most
of the generation has tutor and always study in tuition classes rather trying to
study at home or by themselves. Can our course textbooks bring this spirit in
our students. Will they ever be explained each subject as they never need a
tuition class.

Well if we have to maintain our standards we should furnish our course

content of world class and if we can do this then why not to understand their
concept by allowing them to Indian Education System. We are having rules
which should be maintained by Foreign Universities and those rules should be
too strict to make much profit here.

We had Various famous universities in India where foreigners came and

learnt a lot of things. Do we know why we dont have their reputation now. We
have degraded our system and started following British Education system
which should never be happened and this basically needs to regain its
momentum.

When we are not having any kind of entrepreneurship then why we are not
allowing new things to happen. Just thinking about past will always lead us to
oppose if you think in new direction and benefits students will have then you
might not oppose this.
I think main motive behind this is to reduce brain drain and I hope we can
succeed to a limit in that if we implement this bill in India.

Regards
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Author: eshant Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 275 Date:

31/May/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hi,

After reading everyone's reviews on this topic, I guess most of the aspects
that should come under the category have been covered. Actually what I think
is at this point of time its better to consider the facts which we know and have
experienced rather than trying to think about the effect of future universities.

What I meant to say is that the answer to the question of effect of foreign
universities in India will become more clear if we consider the present
scenario of Indian education system first. Trust me I have done my B.E. in
very reputed college, the name is ITM gurgaon, which holds the 4th rank
among self-financed institutions in north-India.The day I heard the news of
getting the college, I was happy like anything. But when I got into the college
things were pretty much different and its very sad.

Even the institutes like NSIT, the inside story is quite different which is very
sad. It takes a lot to get into these institutions but at the end we find nothing
worth it.

So my point is, instead of thinking about the impact of foreign

universities coming in future, just think about the present situation
once. I am sure you will get an answer. And moreover, good institutes like
IITs or IIMs are such that we can count them on fingers. So where the
rest of the population will study?

So we can just hope that entrance of foreign universities will have a good or
positive impact on Indian Education System. If it will not worth it then nobody
will prefer them. So no need to worry about that.

And about the question of impact on Indian institutes, then it will be good
always, as competition is always better to improve the quality and benefits the
customer.
At the end of day, students will only get benefit whether in terms of
tution fee or quality of education.

Thanks,
Eshant :)

Author: Vandana Member Level: Diamond Member

Rank: 7 Date: 07/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 3

Eshant has made an excellent point!

Yes, many Indian educational institutes are big in reputation only in

name. Those who have actually studied there will relate a totally
different story - poor infrastructure, poor teaching faculty, a general
uncaring attitude. Perhaps the entry of foreign universities will make
their Indian counterparts open their eyes and improve.

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Author: Gyandeep Kaushal Member Level:

Diamond Member Rank: 35 Date: 07/Jun/2010 Rating:

Points: 6
It is not long that my brother told me that one of his friends in some IIT
institute (don't remember the city name of the branch) was exactly excited as
Eshant was during entering into the college. After all, we have made IIT as a
tag line, a stamp on the foreheads of students, one who has will be posted to
success, the one doesn't has no value. Being currently in Class X, even I
experience this that we have overwhelmingly given importance to IITs,
however since I haven't experienced it, I won't give my verdict.

That friend of my brother told my brother that in that IIT, the faculty was like
doing nothing. They would give you so many assignments you will get tired
completing. The faculty is not very helpful - you go to ask something, they will
explain you only once, suppose you don't understand one time - they aren't
gonna work upon you one more time. I am not sure whether this is the
condition in all IITs, but I felt sad to know this experience of my brother's
friend.

We must try to understand that our competition is not with foreign

universities. If we can increase our own standard, sooth the hearts of Indian
students by providing them excellent assistance, excellent moral support, and
try to develop an attitude that we are far better than those countries where
Indians are made to calculate in groceries because they have a faith in Indians
that they perform great calculations. We should compete with ourselves, those
foreign universities might get to the sideways themselves.

Even if they come to India, it does not matter that much, all we need is to try
developing ourselves with available resources. And yes - I really appreciate the
view of Eshant for one of the clauses in his last paragraphs - competition is
always better to improve the quality and benefits the customer.

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Author: eshant Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 275 Date:

07/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hi,

I completely agree with my friend Gyandeep, even I have heard from many of
my friends who are studying in very reputed institutes of India. Institutes like
DCE(Delhi College Of Engineering) and NSIT of India claim excellent faculty
and infrastructure along with good placements. But the actual scenario is
somehow different from that.

The lecturers simply come in the class on day one or for some days and
assign some work to the students there. And then they rarely appear again
( these are words of the students of these institutes), as they are confident
about the fact that every student is bright there and they will do it themselves
as every student is very much concerned about the career. Due to this
fashion students are lacking of realtime knowledge or practical
knowledge of domain subjects.

Second case, I would talk about the very famous college FMS, Delhi, which
needs no introduction. I met a student of FMS few days back, what he said I
could not believe for a minute. He said the picture is very much different
inside the institute, nobody cares about the students. You have to do
everything on your own including paying the mess workers with their monthly
wages etc. to complete your project before deadlines.

So the situation has become very critical. I am very proud to say that India
has mass of talent in every part of the country. It just needs a right
direction and guidance.

Entry of Foreign universities will atleast come with a ray of hope. I strongly
want that they effect the Indian universities. Because I am sure that it will
force Indian universities to raise thier standards of teaching.

Thanks,
Eshant :)

Author: Malhar Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 157 Date:

07/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 6

I'm afraid the optimism shown by Eshant - 'it (the entry of foreign
universities) will force Indian universities to raise their standards' - is
misplaced. For the simple reason that the race is between two unequal
competitors. The foreign institutions are going to enjoy complete freedom to
set curriculum, charge fees whatever they feel appropriate, have no
restrictions to implement reservations. The Indian universities are, on the
other hand, are heavily strapped by inadequate funds, inferior infrastructure,
political interference, rampant unionism, corrupt bureaucracy to name a few
constraints. The stagnant, brazen and listless management of higher
education in India is unlikely to draw any inspiration from the professional
approach of foreign universities.

Eshant also feels 'proud' to acknowledge that 'India has mass of talent in
every part of the country. It just needs a right direction and guidance'.
But instead of giving 'right direction' to the education sector in India, the
government is actually making a provision to liquidate the establishment of
higher education institutions.

Our institutions can compete honourably with foreign counterparts provided

they too are accorded the same autonomy (in true sense of word). Our
establishments can't just be condemned without giving them any chance to
prove their mettle. Give them funds, encourage public equity, make them
accountable and see the difference. It is indeed no less than wishful thinking
that by merely inviting a few foreign educational institutions to set up their
shop here, will change the state of education in India. Indian education
system, no doubt, is in mess. But we ourselves will have to clean up the
mess. No point in looking outwards for help!

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Author: eshant Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 275 Date:

08/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Hi,

Well I would say everybody has different opinion. But I can't completely agree
with Malhar. First of all this will not lead to a race as race has begun already
many years ago. Lot of students go every year abroad obviously they know
everything about those universities before entering into the same. Malhar is
saying that foreign universities are going to enjoy complete freedom to
set curriculum, charge fees whatever they feel appropriate, then I would
say if the structure of these universities is inappropriate then why more
and more Indian students are going abroad every year ? . Even Deemed
universities in India are having complete freedom and they are asking for
donation like anything, that is why government had decided a couple of
months ago to cancel the license of some of these universities and decided to
give the Deemed status only after fullfillment of strict guidelines. The problem
was that being Deemed they were not providing necessary facilities which
they should. So we shouldn't anticipate so early the effect of foreign
universities, as we already know the status and reputation of YALE, so there
is no doubt these universities will help students to get a quality education.

Now if we take the case of reservation, the things are not very clear yet, may
be some reservations will be there if government put these guidelines in terms
and conditions. And its good if reservations are only on the basis of economy
or physically handicapped rather than SC or OBC basis.

And the education sector is not that much corrupted as people think, if you go
and look out you would find that institutes are already emulating the
International standards.

When I say Indian universities will be forced to raise their standards then
my idea behind this is that the professors will be paid more salaries which is a
very serious problem, labs will be more functional, real-time knowledge will be
given to students.

Malhar thinks that instead of giving 'right direction' to the education

sector in India, the government is actually making a provision to
liquidate the establishment of higher education institutions, but here I
would ask a simple question, don't you think this is also one of the steps
government should take to improve the education system in India. Giving
right direction means nothing but providing quality education to
students.

My personal opinion is very simple and clear, I have seen what the
government has been doing for the past couple of years to improve the
education sector in India, which is no doubt insufficient. Governemnt is
not taking necessary steps and if it is giving a chance to foreign
universities to enter into India then we should not be afraid of this
change.

If we will be reluctant to this change and wait for the goverment's

necessary actions to improve Indian institutes, only person who would
suffer would be an Indian student.

The question comes how long will the Indian students have to suffer ?
Putting back competition, effect, I simply believe in quality education,
the education which an Indian student deserves.

Thanks,
Eshant :)

Author: Malhar Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 157 Date:

08/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 6

Although I have used up my four responses in this discussion, I hope the
forum editor will let me submit an additional message. Thanks.

My young friend Eshant doesn't seem to have gone through my earlier posts. I
have already stated my position on all issues he has raised. Here's ab brief
recap:

regarding why more and more students are going abroad :

Nearly 2 lakh students go abroad every year. This is less than 1 percent of
students going in more than 25000 thousand college in India. Even if twenty
foreign universities come to India, it will hardly make any change. Why are
they going abroad? More than for quality education, they are glamour
struck.Moreover, only those who can afford, go abroad. So, such students will
still go abroad. It is highly unlikely that son/daughter of an extremely rich
parent will prefer the Indian branch of Oxford or any other FEI to the US
based institution.

regarding Indian universities forced to raise standards :

Even assuming that the Indian institutions will feel the need to improve, they
face so much of limitations - in terms of funds, infrastructure and govt
regulations - that they may not be able to raise their bar. Many academicians,
who had a burning desire to do something constructive in the field of
education, have resigned to the anarchy of system.

Eshant has appreciated govt's steps to improve(!) education systems.I am

happy that Mr Kapil sibbal has found a strong admirer of his weird policies in
Eshant. I urge Eshant to take a look at some of the renowned academicians
think of Kapil sibbal's decisions, be it One India One Board, no examinations
till XII, or this proposal to invite foreigners for teaching Indian students.

I conclude my participation in this debate by reiterating my stand that the

proposal is a case of misplaced priorities. Priority should be to give enough
funds, autonomy and get rid of political interference in Indian educational
institutions.

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Author: Saurabh Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 307 Date:

09/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 4

Well it is a very good move taken by the Government of India to allow Foreign
universities to set up campuses in India.Many of us are not so rich to go
abroad and study in a good foreign institute.
When this something happens, it makes a blow somewhere else. Yes this
decision will make a blow to all those colleges which a student had to take
admission by chance and not by choice.
And yes our leaders like Gandhiji,ratan tata,ambanis etc.,they all have
completed a part of full education from foreign universities.
I am not saying that our Indian Institutes are not good, it is just that India has
a huge population and not everyone can get into a good institute.
So by letting foreign institutes setting up campuses in india,some lot of
students can benefit from it
Thanks
Saurabh

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Author: chirag sachdeva Member Level: Gold Member Rank: 120

Date: 10/Jun/2010 Rating: Points: 6
I am not agree with the decision taken by the Government of India because it
will definitely going to affect Indian Educational system,As we have seen in
the past "how Britishers exploited Indians".At that point of time,they were also
promising such agreements of Trade with Indians but finally Everyone know
what happens..??
This time also making the same mistake we have done in the recent past but
the difference is that,that time promised trade and this time promises
education.

Our country has Good Education System,More than 1-3 lakhs of students
have been passing engineering from India and one fifth of them are being
selected in NASA every year.If,other countries have Good Educational
System then "Why NASA has more Indian engineers".

The Indians who are visiting Abroad for their further studies,As they want to
earn money not going their to increment their qualification.As more
Independence Is provided there as compare to India.They will going their not
for Education Purpose but to satisfy their Lust for girls.

This is really shameful for our country.Also,Indians are always discriminated

in every part of the world because of their cast,color,creed,sex
etc.so,Acording to me The Government should not allow the foreign
universities to enter Indian with the purpose
of exploiting Indian Educational system.

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How there is head and tail for a coin, there is both positive and negative
impact of western culture on India and especially on Indian youth,

In past in India men were our traditional dresses, but now it is entirely
changed, now the Indian youth moving with jeans, t-shirts, minis, micros, etc.,
here we can proud of that western culture, it bringing us with the fast moving
world.

But when we consider the pubs, it is the thing to be strictly punished. In

pubs both men and women are in drastic stage, by taking drugs, it should be
punished. And we need to felt sorry for that.

And there r many things to be taken from the western culture.

Posted By: navedkhan05

THERE HAS BEEN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF EFFECT OF

WESTERN CULTURE ON US. IT CAN BE EASILY FELT BY THE FOOD,
ATTIRE AND WAY OF LIVING OF CITIZENS.SPECIALLY ON DRESSES IT
HAS MADE ADVERSE EFFECTS. SO IT IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR
CULTURE.OUR YOUNG GIRLS ARE WEARING SKIRTS, MICROS, AND
MINIS ETC. WHICH EXCITES THE BOYS LEADING TO SOME SERIOUS
CRIMES SUCH AS RAPE ETC. BUT ON THE FLIPPER SIDE THE WAYS OF
LIVING HAS BEEN GREATLY ENHANCED WHICH IS GOOD FOR
SUCCESS AND GROWTH OF THE COUNTRY AND HELPFUL FOR IT IN
HEADING TOWARDS SUPER POWER AHEAD OF USA. SO I FEEL THAT IT
HAS BOTH GOOD AND BAD EFFECTS

Posted By: ulty

I Strongly believe that there is a substantial influence of western

culture on Indian youths. Mere mention of the word 'India' signifies a place of
cultural heritage as well as diversity. But the cultural legacy that we are
showing to the whole world is becoming a thing of history in metropolitan
cities.

On one side we enjoy our so-called rich culture and really admire it but
on the other side we find discotheques full of young guys and girls. Secondly,
Joint family tradition; one of the biggest assets of India is now vanishing
under the shadow of the so-called western culture. Nuclear families are taking
place of many years' old values. Youth of today is more interested in their
privacy rather than enjoying their lives with others. Individualization has
broken up the joint family system, paving way for the youth to fall prey to drug
addiction. This stage is the most vulnerable period of life where the youth
need guidance, counseling, education and care by parents.

So how did we get part of their culture over here, you ask, their culture
has become over popularized here, through electronic media that everyone
wants to be just like them. Because of that India has lost her identity from all
other countries. We’ve now become a copy – cat to all other nations and we
may lose our individuality. The reason is because, we want another image, we
don’t want to be the olden – day - traditional country, which still hasn’t
become the so - called ‘modern’, even in the 21st century. We don’t want to
look like imposters to all other well – developed countries. If you have ever
thought of that, erase that thought because the image we’ve got planted in our
minds is terribly wrong. India is not an imposter to other nations, it never has
been, but will if the people of today continue to do everything they see on
cable TV.

India is an independent country now and has been for a while, with no
such problems. The reason behind that is because our ancestors fought for us,
so that we could have a future in our own way, not with any other way, which
we are not used to. I’m not saying that India should stop everything they’ve
learnt from western countries, but to have some individuality from other
nations and to set an example to the other 3rd world countries and give out
the message that there are other nations to set an example on.

So, for the people who fought for us, for India to keep her dignity and to
be a leader to other countries, we the people of today must be our own country
and not be some other country, which we’re not. Everyone is his or her own
countryman - why can’t we be our own as well?