Sump Des F 10 http://www.wetwebmedia.com/SumpDesF10.

htm

Home Marine Freshwater Planted Brackish Ponds, lakes Turtles & Aquatic Aquatic Ask the WWM Crew
Aquariums Aquariums Aquariums Systems & fountains Amphibians Business Science a Question

FAQs About Sump/Filters Design/Engineering 10

Related FAQs: Sump Design 1, Sump Design 2, Sump Design 3, Sump Design 4, Sump Design 5 Sump Design 6 Sump Design 7, Sump Design 8,
Sump Design 9, Sump Design 11, & Sumps/Filters 1, Sumps/Filters 2, Sumps 3, Sumps 4, Sumps 5, Sumps 6, Sumps 7, Sumps 8, Sumps 9, Sumps
10, Rationale, Construction, Sump Components, Pumps/Circulation, Maintenance, Refugiums, Plenums in Reef Filtration, Marine System Plumbing,
Holes & Drilling 1, Durso Standpipes, Overflow Boxes, Bubble Trouble, Plumbing Noise, Make Up Water Systems, Marine Aquarium Set-Up,
Algal Filtration in General, Mud Filtration 1,

Related Articles: Pressure Locking Sump Baffles; Welcome to the World of Versatility! By Joshua McMillen, Refugiums, Marine Filtration, Reef
Filtration, Mechanical, Physical, Marine System Plumbing, Fish-Only Marine Set-up, FOWLR/Fish and Invertebrate Systems, Reef Systems,
Coldwater Systems, Small Systems, Large Systems, Refugiums,

Sump Design, reading, using WWM 9/7/12

Hello, I am planning on a DIY sump for my 30 gallon saltwater tank. The sump is going to a 20 gallon tank positioned below the display tank. I was thinking about dividing the tank into three
sections, one for the protein skimmer, one for a refugia area and one for the return pump. With the return pump obviously last, what should be the first section?
<The skimmer usually>
Also, to make sure that neither of the tanks overflow I need to match the gallons per hour of the return pump to the gallons per hour or my overflow box correct?
<Nah, not, nope. Read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sumppumpcircf3.htm
Or is there other details I am overlooking?
<... and the linked files above>
I also saw a few sump designs were they put ball valves in the return and incoming pipes with a pipe connecting them so that if necessary the sump and the main tank can be separated. I am shooting for
simplicity here because I feel like the more parts I add the more likely I am to mess something up so I was wondering is this necessary or recommended?
<Not necessary or advised w/ such small volume...>
I am still doing research on the subject but these are a few questions that have surfaced.
Thanks a million,
Erik
<Keep reading. We/WWM has a great deal of useful content on the subject/s.
Bob Fenner>

Sump and Pump (Design…Choices) – 07/27/12

Hi Crew,
<<Hey Kevin>>
I had a couple of questions dealing with my sump design and return pump.
<<Okay>>
I have a tank that is going to be 72x24x28 and will be sitting on a homemade stand approximately 40 inches tall with the sump located directly below. It will have an internal trapezoid overflow with
two 11/2 inch Durso standpipes and two returns coming out of the overflow. I was looking at getting a sump built from the tank manufacturer that is 60x24x15 and divided into three sections: protein
skimmer, return, refugium, like the picture shows below.
<<I see this, though something does strike me right-off. I would suggest that rather than having the return pump recirculating back to the refugium, that you instead have one of the returns from the tank
feed the refugium. The idea is, like the skimmer chamber, to have the refugium process the “raw” water from the tank>>
The return area would be roughly 17x24x15 as well as the refugium. The baffles would be an inch apart or do you think they should be wider?
<<Wider…say 2-inches. These areas are great for placing heaters, media bags, etc.>>
The protein skimmer section would be about 23x24x15. Do you think this is a good design or is there something better for the space you would recommend?
<<I tend to go simply with the biggest aquarium I can find to fit the space, to use for a sump…and even not worry so much about baffles (often not needed), though you can install these yourself if
you’re a bit handy. This is a more economical approach as you might imagine. But saying that… I do think your sump is designed pretty well, and likely “custom” is the best way to maximize this
space>>
Is the refugium going to be big enough to make a difference?
<<Bigger is better…but it can/will make a contribution. I would suggest adding a ball of Chaetomorpha macroalgae and lighting the section (doesn’t take a lot…see WWM re) on a “reverse-daylight”
schedule. The Chaeto provides an excellent matrix for “critter” production. But if the lighting is not something you wish to contend with, you can certainly go with an unlit chamber of live rock>>
Also, I was looking at getting the Super Reef Octopus 5000 protein skimmer for this system. What are your opinions on this skimmer?
<<My current faves are the skimmers from Reef Dynamics (formerly Euro-Reef), but I think this is also a fine choice>>
I will have a total of about 350 gallons and it will be a mixed reef with fish. My last question deals with the return pump. I was going to use a CoralVue Water Blaster pump. What are your thoughts on
this pump?
<<Should serve well…though I think it’s hard to beat the Eheim line of pumps>>
Looking at this pump I was looking at two different models, the 7000 which is 1800 gph with 12 feet max head or the 10000 which is 2600 gph with 16.5 feet max head. Would the 10000 be too much?
<<Indeed… With supplemental flow within the tank, you don’t need to run a big return pump. Going smaller here will also eliminate many problems re bubbles, noise, poor plumbing design, et al…
Whichever pump you choose, do plumb a gate-valve on the output-side of the pump to allow you to temper flow if needed>>
I will be feeding the refugium
<<Do reconsider this…as I explained earlier>>
and the two return lines and could dial it down if I had to, but I just want to make sure it isn't too much?
<<It’s my opinion you could get by with about 900gph on the return…even less. The slower flow allows better processing of the water through the refugium (longer dwell time), and greatly eases any
issues as mentioned>>
Also, I will be using powerheads for flow as well so it is not entirely dependent on the returns.
<<Indeed… Have you looked in to the many options in “propeller pumps” for this purpose? …versus simple powerheads…>>
Thanks again for all your help!
Kevin
<<Happy to share! EricR>>

1 of 9 02/02/2019, 04:13 pm