Official 2018-2019 Psychiatry Residency Application Spreadsheet

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Question Date Type ?? Questions or Concerns :-/
Current Chats
I recently got off the waitlist at a program. Since I received an invite

11/26/2018 Questions off the waitlist (as opposed to getting one of their original interview
invites), does this mean I have a lower chance of matching there?
Does anyone who's interviewed at Montefiore in NY know what time

11/26/2018 Interviews
the interview day ends? Trynna book a flight
11/26/2018 Questions is it too late to apply for programs? I forgot I didn't apply to one....
Fellow DO people - did students in your schools match previous years

11/25/2018 Concerns to psych without USMLE? My not taking Step 1 is suddenly making me
panic but it hasn't come up on any interviews.
We're all sitting here wondering what happened to the 2nd wave this
year, but I know at least 5 people who have opted to go to 20+
interviews.
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The recent spike in compeition has caused many to have cold feet
about declining interviews thus resulting in a really weak "trickle
down" it seems like
What do you guys think about night float VS taking call for the
majority of 2nd year, with no call/minimal call 3rd/4th year? I'm
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leaning towards taking call 2nd year because I really hate the idea of
working nights, but would love to hear what you guys think
What have people been told by schools as far as the minimum for how
11/25/2018 Questions far in advance to cancel? I've heard 2 weeks- is less than this definitely
inappropriate?
Anyone have stats or info about people matching who have done sub-
11/25/2018 Questions I's at whatever program they match to? Just curious if there's a higher
rate of programs pulling from folks they know
I just need someone to quell my fears for a moment. Rotations are
used to this by now right? I mean, everyone's been chill about getting
time off for interviews and stuff? I'm just asking because I have 5
11/25/2018 Concerns booked in December (I'm not one of the 20+ people, it's just how
availability rolled), so I'm not gonna go to any of the pre-interview
dinners but with holidays mixed in, I feel like my away rotation will
hate/fail me.
Should I email programs that I have already interviewed at to tell

11/24/2018 Questions them about Step 2 score updates? Or will they automatically recieve a
notification when I update ERAS
For those that interviewed at Northwestern already, when do we get

an email from the coordinator with details? I'm interviewing this
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week and have still not heard anything about details about the dinner
or interview day...
Does anyone know anything about the Ohio Riverside program in
11/24/2018 Questions Columbus, OH? Was last year supposed to be the first year but then it
got delayed? Or any other info?
When I’ve sent thank-you emails to my interviewers, the responses

I’ve received have been polite but neutral/nonspecific. One program
even promised to email all interviewees with interview feedback; I
just received that email today and though it was polite, it came across
as generic (as if they sent something similar to multiple other
candidates).
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This worries me because a friend told me that a (different) program
sent her an email along the lines of “every interviewer was amazed by
you, you are among our strongest candidates.” I haven’t received an
awesome email like this. Should I be worried? How important are
these response emails in predicting your likelihood of matching?
Anyone know what the interview day schedule is like for Einstein
Medical Center (Philly)? Like how many faculty interviews and that
kind of thing. The program coordinator didn't provide that kinda of
info. Thank you in advance!
Super happy about getting an ii at my top choice, but it's pretty late in
11/23/2018 Interviews the cycle (1/24). Anyone know if this puts me at a disadvantage as far
as ranking goes? I know rank opens on 1/15
11/23/2018 Interviews (SORRY, did not mean to delete your question about UT Houston! :( )
Happy Thanksgiving! Super thankful for all of you wonderful future

psychiatrists who have created a kind supportive community here :) I
had a question for those who are interviewing at Mount Sinai in NYC.
I'm currently on the waitlist but wanting to be realistic about the
likelihood of getting off the waitlist and having a date that would
actually fit my interview schedule (I need to fly across the country to
get to NYC). I'm couples matching and my partner is interviewing at
another Mount Sinai program so we're debating if he should cancel
since I do not have any NYC interviews. Any help would be
appreciated! Thank you!! :)
The kids the year ahead me sent out info about their audition
rotations, aways, and sub-i's. Everyone seems to have asked for a
letter of rec from each place they've done a rotation. I haven't. All my
LORs are already in (obviously). Should I be doubling back to ask
11/22/2018 Concerns programs where I rotated or did a sub-i to support me when it's time
for my interviews at those places? I'm a little worried, I didn't know
I'd need letters from the program people to seem like a strong
candidate at the programs themselves if I was able to obtain an
interview there post sub-i. Any help or advice?
Do you guys ever feel like more programs would interview us if the
cost to *them* wasn't so high? Like food, lodging, getting faculty to
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turn up? If the process were just 1:1 with the PD over a drink, dessert,
or coffee, wouldn't it be better somehow?
I put this in program q&a too. Got 18 ii, letting go of either MCW or
UVA in the hopes of the cancellation going to someone who needs it or
11/21/2018 Interviews wants it, which do I let go of and why? (I'm from the NE, aside from
what I've read on sites and doximity etc, I like both but can't pick
between the two)
I just wanted to say that don’t give up hope! I still get hopeful every
time I get a new e-mail but it’s usually unrelated. but today, I actually
got an invite e-mail after weeks and it was one of my top programs. So
we can never predict what’s around the corner. #optimism :)
Happy thanksgiving everyone! Very thankful for all of you who are
going into this amazing field and are going to do great work helping
patients who need you! And thankful I'll get to serve patients and
families alongside some of you next year hopefully! :)
A resident emailed me on behalf of the chief residents and PD and

asked me to meet them (the residents and the PD) for coffee, I assume
that this is a "courtesy interview" for my away rotation. What do I
wear? Do I get suited up as if it were a regular interview or are
courtesy interviews business casual? How can I tell if I'll be ranked or
something?
Does anyone know what time Brown's interview day ends for the
regular track? trying to book some flights
Anyone still planning to cancel a West Virginia or Marshall interview

in December?... lol
Could some kind soul with an interview check ERAS to see if

11/21/2018 Questions UofArizona - Tucson still has dates open as per the IV Offers page?
Just wondering if there's still hope
I am realizing that I have not gotten a single II through Thalamus, but I
applied to a bunch of programs that use it. Did anyone have issues
with it going to spam in GMAIL? Gmail automatically deletes spam
over 30 days old, so I wouldn't know if there were any from 9/15-
11/21/2018 Concerns 10/22, since I only thought to check spam today. I feel really foolish.
But, please let me know if you *did* have issues with it going to spam.
Then, I guess, I could contact these programs directly and ask if they
had sent me an II. Do programs only use Thalamus or will they also
send an ERAS message? Thank you!
For those who have interviewed at U Minnesota: could you let me

know what time your interview day ended? I am about to buy plane
tickets for my travel to Minneapolis. It will be very helpful for me to
know the rough time. Thank you so much!
For those of you with 18+ interviews, what do you think it was about
your app that really made it stand out to programs? +1
Only 1/3 way through my interviews, and the exhaustion is REAL.
Don't get me wrong, interviewing iitself is actually pretty fun, but I am
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mentally dead the following day after. If I hear "Do you have any
questions for me" one more time, i'm going to need some Seroquel.
Having to go on 14+ interviews because I'm a DO per charting

outcomes is the real bias.
Hey, anyone interested in helping me start a website/blog on

interview travel tips for med students? Paid $30 for a Lyft because I
11/18/2018 Off-topic didn't have $1.50 in exact change...only to find out I could've bought a
ticket via credit card on the city's metro app lol. sigh.
https://interviewtraveltips.blogspot.com/
11/17/2018 Questions Can anyone confirm if UNC has a waitlist or not?
Does anyone know what's up with Columbia? Do they still have

11/17/2018 Questions invites left to send? On the Offers page it looks like they haven't
sent out many invites...
For those that got rejected by Stanford, how did you receive the
11/15/2018 Questions rejection? Just preparing myself to brace myself for the future
since it's my dream school
Has anyone heard from U of Missouri Kansas City since they sent
out that secondary?
Anyone know what the link is for last year's psychiatry residency
application spreadsheet?
So I guess I was a bit naive about doximity and I have some

questions. I didn't create an account until recently after I heard
some other students talk about the program ranking that the site
offers. I've also seen the ranking referenced in the spreadsheet a
few times. How much credence does everyone give the ranking?
11/19/2018 Questions The ranking really surprised me and how it doesn't always seem
to correlate with a university's reputation, if it is a university
program. Do you rule out certain programs if you liked another
one that ranks higher? Do you only go off of your experience on
interview day/anecdotal information? I'm not sure how seriously
I should take it.
Wellness Wednesday: Anyone encountered any hidden gem
programs or been pleasantly surprised by an interview day?
It's almost 2 months since ERAS opened. How does everyone feel
about their # of interview invites to date? Good, Bad, Ugly?
Hey, is the UCLA Semel-Harbor track a separate thing that we had

11/13/2018 ERAS
to check on ERAS to apply to? Just learned about it...
Anyone applying triple board (peds/psych)? How do the

interviews differ/what questions have they asked?
Should I wear my glasses instead of contacts to interviews to look
smarter... HMMM
Thank you Kaiser San Jose for rejecting me twice. How does this
happen?
For those attending UCLA's JEDI/CGP recruitment day tomorrow,

have you received a schedule for the day yet?
I feel like my invites are all from problematic programs:

Arrowhead, Loma Linda, UVA, Baystate, GWU... does this mean I
suck and they're just looking for workhorses (or worse yet, some
sort of person to sacrifice/fire later)?
When waitlisting for dates on ERAS, do we get an e-mail if we end
up getting a spot?
So a part of me thinks program directors/coordinators never got

my LOI. Did anyone else use the emails listed on ERAS to send
11/11/2018 Questions letters? Or is it more likely they received it and just didn't
respond? This whole begging for interviews thing makes me
sad...
Anyone else have a trainwreck interview yet? Thankfully mine was at a

program I considered a backup. I had asked a question along the lines
of how the program intends to support its residents and the PD got
suprisingly defensive. Maybe I failed to read the atmosphere or
whatever but I did not think this was a bad question and did not get
such pushback at all the other interviews where I posed this question
if you book the interview through thalamus is there a way of cancelling

it without having to email anyone about it?
I tend to have a difficult time coming up with questions to ask about at
the end of an interview. Most programs do a great job with the pre-
interview dinners where we can ask whatever we want + the morning
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slideshow presentations really cover everything I can think of. I ended
an interview like 5-7 minutes early because I literally told the IVer all
my questions have been answered (fml). Sigh.
What do you guys think about programs that primarily train in a VA

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hospital?
Are there even any programs that haven't filled all of their interview
spots at this point?
Someone on the biweekly eras thread said that every psych interview
includes an interview with the department chair. Is this true? I haven't
11/10/2018 Interviews interviewed with any of the actual department chairs at the places I've
been to. Are they just confusing department chair with program
director?
If ranking opens January 15th for us and for programs, and I transmit
all my finalized scores to schools for ranking on January 17th, will I be
really messed up/not ranked? (I already sent Step 1/2 but just took CS
so I'm just making sure I get everything in on time). But I'm going on a
11/12/2018 Off-topic mission trip mid-Dec to mid-Jan and don't think I'll have much
internet/phone access so I was thinking ahead. I was planning on
sending an email to the programs that I'm ranking when I come back to
say that I've submitted my CS pass (provided I pass haha jk) but is there
anything else I'm missing/forgetting to do?
Anyone getting any invites from UCLA-Kern? it seems like they sent 2
11/8/2018 Interviews out like week 3 and hasn't done anything since...unless peeps got some
but didn't list them
UCSF “application placed on hold” - Is this equivalent to a waitlist or a

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soft rejection?
Is there any protocol to dropping interviews very late? I may have

gotten a last second offer from my top choice that conflicts with an
11/8/2018 Questions interview at one of my academic back ups in a few days with no other
date opportunity. I feel like an interview hoarder wanting to drop so
late.
Any point in sending out more ERAS applications? I applied to 88
11/8/2018 Questions programs and have less than 5 interviews... Or is it too little too late to
send out more applications?
Wow, I got a "love letter" from a resident. Anyone know anything about
11/7/2018 Questions how much this means? Resident told me that the other residents and
attendings really liked me.
Anyone else trying so hard not to fall in love with a program they
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interviewed at for fear of getting burned??? -_-
Still waiting for that 18% of interviews going out in November to apply
to me...
Anyone else get interviews at places they never expected? I got a couple
of reach programs on the other side of the country I thought I had no
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chance at. Conversely, local community programs I thought I'd easily get
interviews at have ghosted me. This process seems completely random.
I received an interivew invite 8 days ago in which the PD said the

program coordinator would contact me the next day to schedule for one
of two dates. The coordinator never contacted me. I called and left a
message for her... nothing. So then I called daily (but didn't leave
messages) to follow up. Nothing. I emailed her twice (once at the start
of the week and once at the end)... nothing. Then today, the coordinator
11/6/2018 Interviews finally calls and is like... "oh that first date (the one I was hoping for)
isn't available now, it filled a couple of days ago." and offers me the
second date or nothing. I'm so mad. The first date was available to me at
the time when the PD offered it and the coordinator being so late about
things and never responding to messages held things up. Since there are
no other dates, I had to ask to be waitlisted. But I'm just annoyed. Any
advice or thoughts, everyone?
Would love to hear thoughts. There's a program I'm very interested in

that I haven't heard anything from yet. I sent their PD a LOI ~2 weeks
ago, didn't hear back. Based on the Rejections tab on this spreadsheet,
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it seems like this program had their 'rejection day'. Would it be within
reason to try calling or emailing the coordinator to ask if I'm still being
considered? Should I just sit tight?
When you're on an away rotation and the PD tells you half way through
11/6/2018 Off-topic there are no more interview spots left ... next two weeks are gonna suck
ass
Yesterday, I was in my PD interview and I saw him legit zone the eff out.
11/6/2018 Interviews It was hilarious. I finished up what I was saying quickly and he snapped
out of it but there was this moment of you're clearly not here bruh
I just wanted to vent. I'm concerned about not matching. My interviews

have been going well but i haven't taken CK yet. I take it in 3 weeks. I've
been so busy busting ass on rotations that I've barely studied. I don't
wanna throw my career away because I fail CK or something. Is 3 weeks
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of solid questions and reviewing do-able to pass? I feel like this one
thing is standing in the way of getting more interviews though I have 13
without it. I just don't wanna not be ranked because of bombing or
something
How many people believe they'll get at least 1-3 more interview invites
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before the end of the month (November)?
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Just out of curiosity, which residency program pays the most,
and which one pays the least?
In general, is it a bad idea to ask about the program's possible
weak points (i.e. not having an inpatient unit in the hospital,
excessively VA-heavy, etc.) during interviews? I am very
interested in the program and I want to look interested as well,
but at the same time I want to explore these possible weak
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points a little more especially as somone who seriously
consider being there next year. Should I simply avoid asking
more about the possible weak points (and try to get my
answers outside of my interviews)? What do you guys tend to
do during interviews? Do you guys bring up these types of
questions when you perceive certain things as weak points of
a program and are curious to know more? Thank you!
Can someone shed light into what a courtesy interview is - like

if one did a sub-I or send an LOI and then got an interview, do
11/6/2018 Questions you think it is a courtesy interview meaning one doesn't
actually have much of a shot? Or do you think an interview is
an interview so you have an equal shot as anyone else?
I just got 3 rejections in 20 minutes. Is this the 2nd wave? Did I
catch it??
My Step 2 CK score comes out this week - do I have to

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transmit it if it's a really bad score? I know I did terrible
because I have terrible test stamina and screwed up so much
of it especially towards the end
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When do programs send out love letters to applicants? And if
they do how serious should you take these?
How do I deal with answering interview questions related to

controversial topics where the interviewer adamantly
disagrees with my stance and I, his? For example, I was
looking up the faculty interviewing me at my next interview,
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and one was written about in a prominent newspaper for
saying that he thinks medical marijuana will just make people
stoners and that dispensaries are stupid, etc. Whereas I think
it would be helpful for pain and some mild anxiety and stuff. I
don't want him to mark me down for having an opposing view
but this one's a biggie.
Does anyone else feel like they got snubbed? I went to a top
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10 undergrad and have received a few top tier residency
interviews...but silence from the alma mater. It’s dumb and I
know this process makes no sense but it still hurts :(
What is exactly the "2nd wave" of invites? At first I was told it

occurs after the MSPE is out, then I was told it occurs midway
through October, now people are saying it happens in
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I've been getting consistent 2-3 invites every week throughout

since Sept 15th, and it hasn't been in a wave like fashion at all.
I know alot of programs require all the USMLE steps be done
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before rank order list but do you guys know anything about
core clerkships like Neurology. Do some programs require
these passing grades before they rank us?
What number of interviews and under should one be

concerned about not matching assuming none are “reach”?
Questions Obviously hard to tell and I’ve read the stats but I don’t have
10-12 yet so I am having a hard time gauging where I’m at. I
have 7.
i'm gonna just state the obvious: LOIs don't work, if you sent
an LOI and rec'd an ii, you were likely going to get one
anyways. it's the great question of all time, "Which came first,
Off-topic the ii or the LOI?" Doesn't hurt to send, but likely doesn't help
either. And if written poorly, it could show desperation and
highlight a weak candidate. Superstars don't solicit, they get
recruited.
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Has anyone called a program to try to get an interview? If so,
any success? And what did you say?
I cancelled an interview in the south because of scheduling
conflicts with other interviews, but I didn't have all that many
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to begin with and now I feel like it's bad karma. The program
was kinda passive aggressive about itand invites've been
silent for a week or two when that wasn't as much the case
before so now I feel like this is all I'll get, but I hope not
So it's officially November, and it's been radio silence since

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the first 2 weeks. I applied to 40 program, which I initially
thought was too much, and now I'm regretting not applying to
more :(
What does it mean when the program has both waitlisted

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people and also rejected people but I have not heard
ANYTHIing? I'm looking at you Emory...have they just
forgotten about my poor soul ;(
When you get that noreply@aamc but then hesitate to click

Off-topic because it saids NEW MESSAGE.... turns out to be rejection.
new message = rejections lol
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Are there still interview dates available for Mt Sinai-St Lukes?
Or just waitlist? --_--
Off-topic It’s officially November! Hopefully we get more interviews!
Is there an appropriate way to word an email for cancelling an

Questions interview? I know it's important to just get it done but I don't
want to be offensive or anything
Cancelled an interview today due to a scheduling conflict. And

I have low single digits of interviews to attend. And I lost the
Concerns money on a flight for the first interview on that day. Cancelling
felt like ripping my heart out, I hope someone here gets it
though! :'(
When you realize the day of your flight you actually booked it
Interviews for 2 weeks later than today.. then get charged $300 for
changing :(
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Anyone know anything about Meharry's program? Would
those who received an ii please share your thoughts?
Concerns Writing love letters makes me feel like such a putz.
ERAS
Well, at least I won't need to check my email like crazy
tomorrow. Not that I was getting many ii, anyway );
Interviews
Am I ever going to get off the case western waitlist? I hate you
thalamus, I hate you so much!!!
So at the pre-interview dinner, if I need to go to the bathroom,

should I wait until a resident goes first or just get up? Just
don't want to be seen as that "weird med student who went to
Questions the bathroom." Also, do I need to ask permission to be
excused? Was thinking of holding PO liquids for 2 days prior
to the dinner and auto-straight cathing just before to make
sure there is no PVR. Thoughts?
Pre-interview dinner. drink or no drink alcohol? thinking about

having 1-2 drinks, unless no one else is drinking then I won't
Questions drink at all. I just think its weird that most people say don't
drink, but if the residents are having a drink then I feel it would
be appropriate to have 1 or 2 with them.
Interviews
Has anyone interviewed at UCLA-Harbor? Do they have a
dinner the night before? How long does the day typically go?
Anyone finding this semester turned out more espensive than
Concerns imagined? I thought I budgeted generously when requesting
loans... but evidently not.
ERAS system will be down tomorrow from 5pm and stay down
ERAS ALL OF WEDNESDAY until 6pm. GET READY FOR ERAS
SILENT APOCOLYPSE (interview brokers come through?)
Just a comment. Recieved an II from a program with someone

who cancelled their interview last minute. Just wanted to
make a note that it is a pain in the butt for the coordinators to
fill that empty spot last minute. Most of the time they only
Off-topic have so many interview dates to work with and so many spots
within those interview dates. Not to mention, buying a plane
ticket 1 week out from the interview date costs loads more
than buying a ticket 2 weeks out, etc. Still, I am thankful for
the II. Also, LOI's really do work.
Interviews
Can anyone confirm that Boston University/Boston Medical
Center does not have pre-interview dinner? Thank you!
I only have two interviews: I spoke with one of my letter
writers, and he said he'd be happy to email on my behalf, but
said I should wait until my CS score comes out Dec 12th. He
Interviews said the choice up to me, but that my incomplete application
is the biggest problem so his letter won't go far without a CS
score. Should I ask him to shoot programs an email now, or
wait like he recommends?
Got 2 interviews I really wanted today so I cancelled 3

Interviews
interviews I had at other programs. Just saying I hope they go
to you guys if you need them or liked some of the programs
I'd let go of.
How bad is it to take time off from a sub-i to interview at two

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programs. The unfortunate thing is, the sub-i AND the two
interviews are all in my top three. Do sub-i's realize people
need to interview or will I looked be down on?
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Is it tacky af to send someone a LL through Doximity if you
can't find the coordinator email?
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What are people's opinions on ordering expensive entrees at
the dinner?? is it okay to do?? I'm really eyeing this rib eye :P
Interviews
Anyone who has scheduled with Temple: Did it take a while to
get confirmation after scheduling on ERAS?
Concerns
Why don't programs love me? I feel like this is really bad game
of Tinder
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Applicants who received an invitation from Yale: Was it for the
categorical track or the NRTP/research track?
How bad is it to take time off from a sub-i to interview at two
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programs. The unfortunate thing is, the sub-i AND the two
interviews are all in my top three. Do sub-i's realize people
need to interview or will I looked be down on?
Off-topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhzNSPiqO0M
Only have three interviews, so far. Should I try to send in

Questions another LoR that I got? I'm pretty sure this would be a strong
one. Or..should I just keep on sending letters of interest?
I was wondering if it's possible/how easy to practice in

academic setting after training in community-based programs.
Questions I applied to a few but have somewhat of an interest in
practicing in academic settings, and I dunno how that might
come across to those programs...
Questions Someone deleted the original question :(
Has anyone interviewed at West Virginia yet? What times do

Questions the 9:00 AM start time and the 11:30 start time end? Im trying
to book flights.
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Anyone know if UCSF and Stanford have already sent most of
their invites?
Off-topic Why is UChicago ranked so low on Doximity?
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So, is it safe to say that interview offers are coming to an end
(just based on looking how quiet it was this past week..)
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As a DO with only 3 interview invites so far... How worried
should I be?
DO here - I was reading what someone wrote below about

AMG's needing 12 ranks to hit 95% chance of matching and
DO's need 14-15 etc., so do you guys think that I should be
aiming for 15 interviews total, or more than that because that
person made it a point to write 'ranks not interviews' or
Concerns whatever, and they have a point - should i go into the rank
period thinking that a program or two will be leaving me off
the rank list somehow? i'm not a terrible person, i just want to
find out so i don't take more interviews than necessary. i'm at
10 but if i get to 15, i'll gladly cancel anything else i receive so
that others can get some too. it's only fair
Can anyone tell me about UMMS-Baystate? I have heard
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terrible things about their IM program and that it's considered
malignant, but I don't know much about their Psych program.
Any thoughts/info would be much appreciated!
Just gonna say that I like this community we have here.

Seems like a decent amount of positive, considerate people
Off-topic who look out for others. Looking forward to hopefully working
with some of you. Probably one of the better reddit/google
spreadsheets of all the specialties applying to match this year.
Anyone familliar with the JEDI/CGP recruitment day offered

pre interview at UCLA Semel? They say "Participation will not
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affect your candiacy" but it seems like an opportunity make a
good impression with residents and pick up talking points.
Would like to attend but I would have to reschedule a
clerkship for it. Worth it?
IMG here. Anyone know what is going on with NYC area? Isn't
Interviews
it supposed to be IMG friendly? I've asked almost all psych
applicants from my school and they haven't heard anything
from NYC...
Concerns
At what point are people developing a backup plan/what
should that plan be?... freaking out :(
How do you interpret program director from your home

Questions program saying "I hope you stay here"? Does this mean I have
a spot or should I still be freaking out?
Yea those with 10+ interviews really should start withdrawing

and declining invites so that others may have chance. Anyone
else have input on this?
concerns
For those of you who have interviewed at Howard, what's the

"short quiz"?
questions
Help. IMG sitting at 0 II's and lots of rejections. Very worried I
wont even get an interview at this point. Sent out 5 LOI's to
programs within my home state this past week. Planning on
sending out many more over the next week. What are some
good programs I should target for LOI's. I've applied nearly
everywhere...-- Vent time: Those with 15+ interviews please
start withdrawing from programs that you wouldn't likely
consider or need as a fail safe so that it may open up spots for
others that would be very willing to match to just about
concerns anywhere. UPDATE: just secured 2 II's (10/29)
Anyone else get a II for Mt Sinai and sent dates but still has
not heard back with a confirmation? Has been a full week now.
questions
Decent number of interviews but ghosted by home program?

Already sent an LOI. Home program has high cutoffs for steps
but usually home students get courtesy interviews? Should I
contact my faculty advisors or are they just saving me from
wasting time with an interview?
Questions
Do we think there will be one more wave? Or mostly a few last

stragglers at this point?
concerns
Anyone with an interview to Iowa hear details about hotel
accommodations? I have an interview this upcoming Monday
and Dinner Sunday. In initial email they said the hotel
confirmation email would come “closer to your interview”. I
sent an email yesterday. If I don’t hear anything by later today
should I call the PC? Thanks!
questions
Anyone with a UMich interview get add'l info from the program
yet?
Questions
I'm learning about myself during this process: I love being

wooed. I love being wined-and-dined.
Off-topic
Anybody who received an interview from UCLA last week hear

back about an actual date? I still haven't heard back and I'm
concerned....did they by accidentally just send me an
interview invite? lol
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If a program has placed you on a waitlist, what can We do to
get an interview? who to email to check if someone has
canceled? and what to do if the are not responding to your
emails?
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~That feeling when you get a "noreply@aamc.org" email only

to find out it's a rejection :-/
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~That feeling when ur LOIs are completely ignored~
Off-topic
I just got my CK score back. Do I just update my USMLE

transcript or should I also email PDs?
Questions
Has anyone heard anything from Einstein in Philly? Anymore
interview dates?
Questions
A lot of places in NY seem to have zero invites. Do some

places just invite late or people here don't have any? Thinking
of sending LOIs over so wanna know
Questions
Any dumb conflicts with your school that prevented you from
interviewing? Just had my first - gonna be attending a 1 hour
syllabus orientation instead of an interview
Concerns
According to ERAS Preliminary data the average amount

number of programs applied to by US/Canadian grads went up
by 8.6 applications. As a whole programs have an extra 51
applications on average.
Based on your experience so far, do you think you applied to
too little few, too many, or just about the right # of programs?
Was cost an issue that prevented [you] from applying to more
programs?
Would you attribute the slow state of the cycle due increased
competition and overinduation [wtf?] of applications? (or do
you think the current cycle is fine)
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Can anyone confirm that there's no pre-interview dinner at
Temple?
Questions
An interview invite on the 1 day when you have previously

scheduled an interview and you're still in the single digits and
there are no other open spots ... waitlist here i come ... feels
like medschool again.
Concerns
What top tier programs have my fellow DOs been invited to?
Concerns
Has anyone scheduled an interview with UCLA-NPI? Did it take them a

while to confirm a day? thanks
Questions
So the complete slow down in interviews this week is frightening. Does
anyone else think this is pretty much it...only invites left are going to
come from waitlists?
Concerns
Can anyone speak to whether a lack of rejection emails from programs

that send rejection emails mean that they are still reviewing our
applications?
concerns
Guys my current rotation is chill as fuck (attending literally said I did

not need to come.) I feel like i'm forgetting things in psychiatry. Are
there any good podcasts/qbanks to brush up my knowledge or learn
new topics on so I don't look disinterested during interviews
Off-topic
How do you unstrike through dates on the IV offers tab? It doesn't let
me after: Highlighing dates -> clicking strikethrough button so it's not
pressed -> clicking different cell
Questions
Anyone who did a sub-I at UT Austin, did you get an interview?
Concerns
Could yall please update the available and taken interview dates for the
schools you're able to see that for? I'll do the same with my schools. :)
Concerns
Did everyone who did an away sub-i at UTSW received an interview

from them yet? I don't know if they automatically give one out to all
away rotators
Questions
Thoughts? Psych ERAS 2019 Prelim Statistics:
109 additional US and Canadian graduates this cycle compared to last.

351 fewer IMG applicants than in 2018.
US and Canadian graduates (includes current seniors and previous

graduates) applied to an average of an additional 8.6 programs
compared to the 2018 cycle. IMGs only applied to an average of 1
additional program vs. 2018 cycle.
Programs have an additional 56.3 applications on average this year

from US and Canadian graduates, and -123.9 applications from IMG this
year compared to last.
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Based on what I've read on both SDN and r/medical school, I feel like I
should be in all out panic mode. I go to a midwest school and have only
received 3 invites so far. One from my school and the others (CA, TX). I
applied to only big cities and have received 4 outright rejections at this
point. I'm a little surprised about the lack of interviews from the
midwest for me...someone give me some sagely advice :( [223/239/MD]
>>Where's your CA and TX invites out of curiosity? similar position as
you...>> Baylor COM and UCLA/Olive View [UPDATE 10/23] Took your
guys' advice and landed at least one more invite (+25% :D) haha...
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So, does the lack of interview invites today mean that interview offers
are slowing down?
Concerns
I'm scheduled to take my Step2 CS in early December. Their website

shows that scores can come backe between Jan 30-Feb 20th. One of my
programs requires CS results by Jan 31 to rank. I'm starting to freak out
that scores won't be back in time. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Are most results actually coming back on first day of reporting period?
Questions
What was your speed time to the person who got the 11/28 waitlist at
Case Western? I went in Thalamus 1 minute after the time stamp and it
was taken.
Off-topic
What does everyione think the no match rate is going to be this year?
seems like double the applicants as last year and last years was 13.7%
Concerns
Off topic but I just took my Step 2 CS the other day and now I'm
replaying it over and over in my head and there's so many things I
accidentally did wrong that now I'm just hoping I pass. I can't believe
something so straight forward could suddenly threaten to derail my
whole career. :( :( :( Send good vibes guys
Off-topic
Anyone else sitting at single digit invites? I'm not sure what to make of
it. Is it near the end of the interview waves or is it just abnormally slow
this year? Or is it that every medical student has applied to psych and
the end is nigh?
Concerns
I am couples matching and got an interview invite. It's actually my

second one. Should I ask if my spouse can get an invite as well? We're
actually applying ot the same specialty and don't know if it's
appropriate to ask. If it is, what do you say without making it look like
you won't be interested if they choose not to interview him (there are
other programs nearby so we're okay if we don't get all the same exact
interviews).
Questions
Any advice on getting off a waitlist? Currently on 4, one of which is a top
3 program for me which I landed after sending a LOI. Would love to do
whatever it takes to get off.
Questions
Need advice on what to do. Waiting on sub-i invite. Going to be brief; I

killed the sub-i and everyone loved me. Haven't heard a word from them
since August. Emailed the PD a quick note reminding her I exist 10 days
ago and haven't heard anything. I had an attending from this program
write me a LOR, should I now reach out to this person to see if they can
do something to help me snag an interview? Follow up with PD again in
the event she missed the email?
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Question for everyone - I'm a DO (Sam C) - I had a tonsillectomy so I
couldn't take my Level 2. It's coming up now, but since COMLEX isn't
offered as many days as Step 2, I can either let go of an interview and
take it Nov 27th and waitlist for a later date (but then no guarantee of
an interview at all and they were the first place to give me a shot). But
at least then results are out in early December and maybe I'll get some
last minute ii's from places. Or I can take the exam in December and the
results wouldn't be out til almost the end of January. Do I hold on to my
10th interview and take it in December? Or do I let go of one in the
hopes of being able to access more by getting some results in earlier?
Help, please!! (No trolling, please. It's been a hard year for me health
wise)
Off-topic
Have you guys heard of anyting about the new moonlighting policy
changing for all California ACGME programs? So apparently it use to be
12 months of required training before you can moonlight but now it will
change to 36 months. Which means pretty much you can maybe
moonlighting some fourth year which is 2 years delayed. How do you
guys think this will effect the income of residents in the future? Law
takes effect Jan 1 2020!
Concerns
A few people have reached out about specific programs, but if you
currently have data about which dates are available for wl/scheduling
on ERAS /Thalamus etc about a program it may be worth updating the
dates section on the IV Offers tab
Questions
For those with UMich invites, do you have your Step 2 CK score? Some
programs clearly say they need it for II but others say it is just needed
to be considered to rank.
Questions
Regarding LOI... Is it bad to send like 20ish letters to programs I have a

Questions connection to (given geography) or I am extremely interested in? I
obviously plan to write very tailored letters..but is this bad form?
Off-topic Is it too late to send letters of interests?

Questions can someone post a tab with doximity rankings?
I have a few interviews where the other applicants all come from super
Interviews elite medical schools. Can't help but feel some sense of imposter
syndrome. How do people handle this?
For people that got interview invites from top/ivy programs, what were
Interviews
your applications like? (AOA, ivy med school, step range, etc)
Interviews Does anyone know if Stanford has any dates left?

Has anyone received advice regarding thank you notes post interview?
What is typically standard - no communication, email, or handwritten
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notes?
Thank you for your help!
Question - How are folks handling heading out on interviews while on

away rotations? I've got away rotations in November, December, and
January (was just the luck of how it rolled for our 4th year scheduling
Questions lottery) and I've got Monday and Friday interviews scheduled during
those months and I feel like it makes me look like a dick to keep having
to leave. I want to match, but I also don't want to fail my rotation and
not graduate haha
Got an email from a letter writer he made a “typo/mistake” in my LOR

and he reuploaded it and I should probably let programs know (so I’m
guessing it wasn’t a small mistake). Should I email Program directors
and/or coordinators of places I’m interviewing them at just telling them
about the re-upload? Or hope they only see the new one?
i have to say that i would feel proud to have many of you as my
Off-topic colleagues, you guys are a very open group and the content of this
spreadsheet is confirmation i've picked the right specialty <3
okiSoooo....are we like, done now? I know no one can actually answer

Concerns that, but I am trying to come to terms with being okay with the number
of invites I have. It's been a quiet week.
Plot twist: What if PD's had their own spreadsheet of their metrics, IV
Off-topic
responses, impressions, etc. ?
Off topic - I was looking at Charting Outcomes for the Match

(Osteopathic) and you could have barely passed boards and start out
Off-topic with an 80+% chance of matching FM, IM, Peds, and Neuro and with 3
interviews would be above 90% chance but would start out at like 50%
chance with Psych. Sigh.
UT Southwestern--- any negative points? I keep hearing only good stuff...
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but there has to be some negatives.
Whenever you ask a question from now on add hash-tags to the first
row. Try to avoid the temptation for silly hashtags.... this will also
allow for these questions to be easily sorted/searched and then
Off-topic these questions can be passed on to people applying in the future.
If someone is bored and feels like helping, they can add hash-tags to
old questions.
Gosh I hope interviewers at the same institution don't compare

Interviews thank you letters. Kinda hard to diversify the initial and closing
statements for 6 interviewers...
Questions Who deleted all the questions up here?

Old Questions
What's a good resource for factors to consider in post-interview

program evaluations? (There used to be a form for this on AAMC or
Interviews elsewhere but I can't find it now...) // Found it!
https://www.aamc.org/cim/download/338984/data/evaluationguide.
pdf
Why is my sub-i ghosting me/what can I do at this point? Honored

rotation, residents loved me, attendings loved me, got a killer letter
of rec, spent time with PD and we really hit it off. Last thing he told
me was the sub-i was really my interview and theyd have me back
on campus to interview as a formality. Saw they sent out invites
Concerns
about a week ago and nothing, so I wrote the PD per the suggestion
of one of the senior residents....and still nothing. Is it common for
PDs to give invites to away rotators later? I'm so crushed because I
loved this program and they seemingly loved me. FWIW my stats
are above their average applicant stats too.
Waiting for more interviews is so difficult. throughout the day, I keep
Concerns refreshing my inbox just in case....I have 5 now which isn't bad....but
I feel like I need 10 to be safe with my Step 1 score.
USMD who failed Step 2 CS. How badly will this affect me during
ranking? I have interviews at programs that say "no USMLE failures",
Concerns
does this mean it's pointless to interview there even if I pass on next
attempt?
I have 11 interviews + 1 waitlist so far, but I want to cancel 2. Would it

Concerns be foolish to assume I'll get at least 2 more interviews over the next 6
weeks or so? My goal was to go on 11-12 interviews.
Concerns Indiana U just sent out a waitlist email stating they're full... so it begins
Did you guys have an increase in psych applicants at your school this
Concerns
year? We definitely have more than the normal number applying....
Does anyone have any information about the Mt. Sinai Beth Israel
Concerns hospital closure? How is it going to impact the residency program,
workload, etc?
I'm waitlisted for a program via Thalamus, by the time I get email
notification that a spot has opened from the waitlist it's gone. First
Concerns couple of times, I was driving or with a patient, this last time, I checked
within 30 seconds and it was gone... any suggestions from people that
have successfully obtained an interview via waitlist?
Anyone else get called out by friends and family for going into this field
Concerns for strictly financial and lifestyle reasons? They're all telling me a
person like me shouldn't be a psychiatrist
Alright I thought you were all being neurotic worrying bout interviews
but now I'm getting a bit neurotic myself, thought I was reasonably
Concerns
competitive but sitting at only 4 IIs and absolute crickets from the other
50+ programs
How important is it to have all your steps done for interview invites? I
only have Step 1. I haven't even taken my CK yet. I'm trying to get it done
Concerns but it looks like it'll be Nov (CS will be released in Dec hopefully). Am I
screwed? Only have 1 invite, and that's from my home institution (and
that's in Jan, so I'll have everything hopefully passed and done by then)
If I still havent gotten my Step 2 CK scores yet is it a good idea to send

Concerns
pre-interview love letters to programs? Or should I wait?
I don't like that the average # of invites keeps going up. I wish some
Concerns
poeple would have some disinvities so I could catch up.
This week so far has been brutal for invites. Like where they at? I am
Concerns
getting neurotic over every email that dings.
Do less competitive applicants get more interviews later in October?

Concerns
(Asking for a less competitive friend, obvi....)
Concerns No interviews since week of Sept 24. Losing hope....
I only have COMLEX scores and feel like I'm screwed on interviews (I
Concerns
have 3). I know I should be patient but do y'all think I'm SOL?
I'm couples matching with my boyfriend who's applying IM. I haven't

had any movement since the start of last week but he's gotten a
bunch of invites. We're both fairly strong candidates from a top
Concerns
program. He's sent emails to his PCs about me, but do you guys
think that'll actually help? Very stressed and worried that I'm
dragging him down :(
Concerns When should I panic and send more applications through ERAS?
Why haven't some programs sent out any II? Or are people just not
Concerns
updating the Offers tab?
I just got a rejection from Wash-U and I only have one ii. I come from
a medical school that's well-known, have top Step 1 but awaiting my
step 2, have published quite a bit, and did a substantil amount of
Concerns
psych-related community service. The only red flag I have is that I
was in the 2nd quartile at my competitive med school/not AOA. I
don't understand this process, what are they looking for?
Anyone else feeling on edge? I believe that if any of us have an

Concerns
application insecurity, this experience definitely exacerbates it.
Anyone with non-professionalism, non-failure, non-legal red flags?

Concerns
Is broadly 100+ programs?
Concerns Anyone with 245+ and 0 ii? Worried i'm a lone ranger over here
Concerns Has anyone got any good interviews without a step 2 CK score?
Has anyone got any good interviews without a step 2 CK score?
Concerns
Cont'd
Should I be concern that I’ve only received one interview offer so

Concerns
far? I’m afraid my app is seriously not as good as my advisors said
Received a rejection from UW today 10/1. Does it mean something

Concerns
wrong with my MSPE?
How are incomplete step scores looked at during the screening

Concerns
process? Is it seen as a failure or as something distinct?
For those that received an invite from U of Mich today, are you from Michigan
Concerns
or around the area? This is one I was really hoping for. Thanks!
Is it time to panic yet? Days from ERAS being open for a solid
Concerns
month.. Idk when to send out letters of interest :/
Anyone with any sort of Step or Comlex fail and still have a number
ERAS
of interviews?
Got a questionnaire from University of Chicago, anyone else get

ERAS
this?
ERAS Is this my life now?
Anyone know if dates are routinely added to what is currently showing

Interviews in the spreadsheet? Or are the dates listed in the spreadsheet typically
all that there is?
UW Milwaukee sent waitlists yesterday. Did anyone get one? If you did,
did yours ask you to submit a short reply about why you want to go
Interviews
there? I'm hearing some people got this request with their waitlist and
some didn't. Any idea what this might mean?
Anyone have early December interview dates (other than Dec 7th) at
Interviews
WashU willing to trade for Jan 18th?
Interviews What is likelihood of getting off of waitlist at a program?
Has anyone scheduled an interview with Northwestern/McGaw through

Interviews ERAS? If so, did you receive any kind of confirmation email after
scheduling? Or any specs about interview/dinner?
Do you guys think it makes zero difference as to when we interview?

Interviews
Like no advantage to scheduling an interview in Oct vs. Jan?
I got an invite from U Tenn today on ERAS saying that a follow up email
from interview broker would be coming to schedule your date and was
wondering when I might get the interview broker email? Got the eras
Interviews
message around 5 pm central. Just wondering how long I'll need to keep
refreshing my email every other minute so I can schedule quickly and
get my perferred date.
How likely is it that a program with a waitlist will add more interview
Interviews
spots later?
What is the cutoff for the number of interviews to go to before starting
Interviews
to cancel?
For those who got interviews at Colorado or Yale, are there still
Interviews
interview days open?
How many people believe they'll get at least 1-3 more interview invites
Interviews
before the end of the month (October)?
What's the consensus on talking about personal experiances with

mental illness, like say GAD, nothing too serious, and how it impacted
Interviews
and motivated you to want to help others going through similar
experiances. Especially during the "why psychiatry question"
For those DOs who received an interview from umich, do we really need
Interviews to have all usmle exam scores for ranking or was that a mistake in the
email?
I saw that some people received rejections from LAC+USC. If you don't
Interviews
mind sharing, what were your stats like?
Raise your hand if you are an LGBT applicant concerned about
Interviews discussing your partner/sexuality/transition during interviews. What
is y’alls plan?
Do people think interviews are going to go out tomorrow or nah

Interviews
because of the holiday?
Interviews Anyone get confirmation of interview dates from WMED?
Anyone who emailed UT Southwestern for an interview date get a

Interviews
response yet?
Are those that are getting interviews from U Minnesota or Hennepin

Interviews local students or outside the region? I am really looking to be there
in Minneapolis and havent heard from those programs yet
Couples matching & both of us are applying psych. I'm the weaker
applicant. My partner emailed the 4 schools he had received
interviews from that I hadn't heard anything from yet and of the 4, 2
said they were full already (1 offered to waitlist me), 1 sent me an
Interviews
interview right away, and 1 said they were reviewing my application
this morning and I have yet to hear back. I'm not sure if anyone is in
the same boat but all the coordinators he contacted were super nice
about it!
Did anyone get verification on dates from Rowan? Emailed + called
Interviews
and still haven't heard back
Do all interview invites show up under the interview invitation tab on

Interviews ERAS, regardless of the method the program uses for scheduling
the interview?
Do programs send out waves of interviews or am I screwed if

Interviews programs I applied to havent sent me one yet, but have sent invites
to others?
Does anyone else find it crazy that almost all the northwestern
Interviews
interview spots are full? That seems ridiculous to me.
For anyone who has received an II from USF (Tampa) by phone,

Interviews when did you receive the follow-up e-mail with options and more
info?
For interviews that start coming out next week, do you think it'll be
Interviews possible to schedule for November? That's the main month I have
available to schedule interviews.
For others who got an Interview Request to LSU in NOLA, have you
Interviews
heard a reply back after submitting your date preferences yet?
Has anyone seen any pattern watsoever as to how these interviews

are being given? I'm a DO,, Step 1 238, Step 2 246 with no red flags,
Interviews and still haven't recieved a single interview. I know it's still early, but
it seems like the vast majority of applicants on this spreadsheet
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Interviews
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Like 3ish < Thank you!!

Some programs have application deadlines
listed on their websites/frieda so I would
Probably, but assume you'll do this process only
check that before you pay! (<-- yes, I did
once and if there's a place you want, you might as
check the program's website and it only said
well plunk down the cash that will be a drop in the it accepted apps thru ERAS. No deadline.
debt bucket we all built up I've seen other programs specifically say nov
20 is the last day)
Students in the years before me matched into MD

psych residencies, some of who said they didn't
take USMLE. Some programs will take COMLEX,
some won't. It varies. Taking the USMLE definitely
helps but was not required to match in the past.
Hopefully, that's going to hold up this year too.
<<<<----except that stock speculation is

trying to predict the future, whereas the OP
was postulating why things in their opinion
have been "really weak." They are trying to
<< This sounds like stock speculation / Bitcoin
explain an occurrence rather than forecast
predictions what will come. So, I sort of disagree w/ you
though I think what you really meant to say
is that no one really knows for sure what is
going on and why.
For me I think it depends on how call is set up. If
it's 24 hour call with post call day after, I think I take call 2nd year. you wanna have time to
would prefer that over say call until 10 or 11 with do what you want in the last 2 or 1 year of
no post call day. Night float system probably residency
somewhere in between. Just one opinion though!
Totally agree. I have tried to abide by the 2

week rule. However, yesterday (saturday), I
received an interview off the waitlist from
one of my top programs just 6 days out. I
had another middle of the road interview
scheduled that day, and cancelled
immediately, taking the waitlist interview.
If possible try to do that, but soooooo many
While I know it is frowned upon to cancel
people are waiting on those invites from the
only 6 days out, I've met enough people on
waitlist I think at least the other applicants would
the interview trail with not enough
be happy for any trickle down you can send their interviews. I think cancelling is absolutley
way even if it is a few days out appropriate because it gives someone else a
shot where they otherwise don't have one.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here. I
keep reading all of these comments about
"professionalism", but I think the most
professional thing you can do is to give
someone else a chance!
< I think doing a sub-i is key for getting an

interview. I doubt they'll match you *just*
because you did a sub-i. That'd be a bit
I've never seen any data regarding that ridiculous. Its in the best interest of the
program to rank strong applicants who want
to go there
There really is no answer to this. I've been
on rotations that have been super chill and
At least at my school they are very flexible. I hope
ones that have been very rigid and
they are supportive of you. Obviously interviews
discourage taking any time off for
take precedence right now. Best wishes. interviews. It really depends where you're
at.
I would conveniently email them and attach it with

why you are still interested. But all of them should Make sure you resend scores on ERAS!
see the update on ERAS x10
<AH, I hope they didn't accidentally send

I would email the coordinator. I interviewed at one
me an interview invite now...
of the earlier interview days and received the info
about the dinner and interview several weeks E10 here: It was not an accident. You got
ahead of time. The coordinator is wonderful! this!
I think it's okay that your responses have been
What program sent that to your friend?
neutral or nonspecific. Not every program is going
Seems ridiculous. Also, a good amount of
to have the time to respond in an extremely
replies to my emails have been neutral.
personalized way or re-reference the details of Some have said "you would be an excellent
your interview to comment. I wouldn't be worried [or great] fit here" but I take that with a
and don't think that it has any bearing on the grain of salt. DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING x2
likelihood of matching whatsoever.
Yep, starts around 7:45 I believe, then ends

around 4pm. I think we finished up a biiiit earlier
than that, but not by much. You do your interviews
at Einstein, and the day wraps up with a tour of
Belmont, the independent psych hospital (you
have an Einstein tour earlier in the day).
Agreed. I noticed the occasional place with
interviews at the start of Feb, even. If it
It shouldn't matter when you interview in the cycle.
mattered, they wouldn't have scheduled
Interviewers have told me it really does not matter interviews that way. You'll be good. Congrats
on getting your top choice!
>if it helps... it appears as Non available for both

No worries, D. Thanks, E!
schedule and waitlist. no dates avail.
They offered me a date for January 23rd as an

only option when I got off the wait list a few weeks < box E: were you on the top tier of the
ago. I'm not sure if it is because someone waitlist? I am on the top tier and have still
cancelled that day or something else. I would not heard back from them ��
maybe email them and explain your situation ��
asking for advice.
I have not been asking for letters at away
rotations. However, at the end of the rotations, if I
feel like I clicked well with the residents/faculty, I'd
ask one or two to put in a good word with the PD
during rank time.
PDs and interviewers don't get paid to

interview candidates. The lost productivity
is more expensive than anything else by a
long shot.
A good number of programs are not offering
Don't programs get some of that sweet ERAS app lodging either. Those that are seem to be
money? doing it solely as a way of attracting
applicants to undesirable locations.
I don't think they'd interview more of us.

Psychiatrists may think they are great
judges of character, but they're not really
better than anyone else.
I don't know anything about UVA... but I was not

I'm kinda stuck on how MCW's curriculum
super impressed with MCW... great clinical training
does outpatient second year and inpatient
3rd. I can't tell if that's better or worse.
and hospitals, but most faculty stay in Wisconsin
Because it makes sense on paper in a way,
and they bragged about how about 80% of their
hey, approach the CL service with the
residents stay in Wisconsin (not an appealing
wisdom of time, but if 99% of programs do
statistic to me). Residents and faculty are outpatient third year... there must be a
generally very happy and friendly, but the reason. Don't know much about UVA but
residents just weren't "my people"- of note I've Charlottesville's been pretty negative in the
lived in Milwaukee and loved it and seriously news these last few years, not sure I'd want
thought I was going to love MCW.. to be in that
<< This was super sweet! Congrats on the
<thank you for this!
interview invite!
< What a nice message! I'm very thankful for all

the invites I received -- it gives me hope that I can
enter this incredible field. I met so many sweet,
< Aww you guys!
genuine, impressive people on the interview trail. I
hope everyone ends up where they really want to
be :)
Gosh this is unique. Could you just ask the

resident about it? (at least in terms of dress?) I'm I'd also do business casual
thinking I'd go with business casual
Think it was around 4:15p? Mine ended at 4:10!
< I would be very excited haha! I am

waitlisted at both. I have a low number of
invites but these came for the exact days I
Actually, maybe?! had interviews at programs slightly closer to
home. So if you’re not very jazzed about
living in West Virginia... I know someone
that would be!
It is through emails so unfortunately I cannot tell.

Anything is possible so keep ya head up
They did have 20+ invites on this page tho
OK Thanks!!
I did not have issues with Thalamus going into

junk and believe I was notified through eras as
well, message had a link to schedule via
Thalamus
Checking in with 18 interviews exactly, and 18+ interviews, I think my step scores
planning on going to all of them. I had a very probably helped a lot with initial screening
strong application numbers-wise (Steps 250+, 6/8 (245+), LORs and personal statement have
Honors) but most of my interviewers have been mentioned a few times as well. State
remarked about my personal statement. The key schools for undergrad/med school (neither
for me was to read the mission statements of the name brand) so I don't think those helped at
schools that I was most interested in and craft a all. I think the biggest thing is that I am
PS around some of the common themes. Then I hoping to stay in the city where I am
had my friend who is a professional writer help me attending medical school and there happen
with edits. I applied to 20 programs. to be a LOT of programs here.
You don't necessarily HAVE to go on that many.. if I'm half way through my interviews. I've
you interview well at somewhere you really want gone on 9 so far, which is probably enough
to go that might be all you need. Someone at my to match, but I'm just so scared of falling
DO school last year only went on one and through the cracks. And yeah, I am dead
matched there. <--- Yeaaaahhh I'm not taking any after the interview, and I hate hate hate pre-
risks like that interview dinners.
Not sure. I know programs are pretty straight up

when u give them a call though. Prob would shoot Fosh, thank ya
u straight if asked.
I think they don't interview as many people I received a rejection from Columbia a few
because they take about 1/2 their residents from days ago. If you haven't heard, I assume
columbia med there is still hope!
<I wish they were just send out all the
ERAS rejections at once instead of a slow trickle of
rejections... x3!!
Email from the coordinator today, they will respond

Thanks!
by next week
It's on the welcome page of this spreadsheet
I used it to help guide where I applied, but will be

letting my personal interviewing experience
Doximity is pretty good except that it is
determine my ROL decisions. Mostly wanted to
useless when looking at a relatively newer
avoid wasting apps, while ensuring I included all
program as it does not have enough data
the reputable programs in my target region. The points to exactly tell you where it lands so it
summary screen is also quite helpful to refer to for will automatically put those at the bottom.
basic info/fellowship stuff (and the presentation is
much better than FRIEDA).
New Mexico - Albequerque seemed like a
suprisingly fun place to live in. The residency
Cleveland Clinic wowed me
seemed to have a really nice mix of psychopharm
and psychotherapy with some room for flexibility
9/US-IMG, not sure what my realistic

chances are at ANY program because I keep
hearing of horror stories of people going
Wish I had a couple more but grateful for the ones unmatched even with 10+. All it takes to
I do have match is 1, so yeah i'm still nervous despite
liking all my programs after the interview at
least. I have no idea if they like me or not
either.
Yea that was hella confusing but I know they only

take like 1 spot so i didn't apply
Nothing crazy. Why triple board and a lot of

Psych - medicine - surgery >> LOL the usual questions that you would get in a
psychiatry interview.
During one interview had one student ask the other <<LMAOOOOO @D, I've been wearing my
if her glasses were real because he could have sworn
he saw the same fake prop glasses on amazon. glasses because I've been too lazy to put on
Conversation got awkward quick. contacts
<<< Im sorry that's so petty :/ Seems like

<< That's so petty of them smh
some apps get jumbled up because someone
from San Antonio got rejected and then later
invited
Just heard from Dr. Nelson. She said there will be an

email later today with more info <thanks!
No, that means you meet their qualifications for

interview/residency and, when you match, will show Is UVA really that problematic? I thought it
them what a great Psychiatry resident/attending you
will be. An opportunity is what you make of it. Good was a good program
or Bad.
nope
my obsessive logging into ERAS multiple
times a day, it shall be....
<If the PDs respond to you nicely, does that

Definately the latter. Most LOIS are not responded
too. Its a numbers game like applications mean anything? Like that the PD might be
willing to take another look at your app?
I got asked about what I thought would be hard for < E: Wow.
me to train as a psychiatrist. I said I sometimes felt
emotionally attached and had to learn how to
separate myself and that was an ongoing battle. The D: I've been advised to avoid why and how
interviewer said i was selfish. Thankfully it was not a questions because I've heard that
program I was super excited about. interviewers can become defensive.
Yes. Just click on the date you have scheduled. At the

bottom right of the pop up there should be a thanks!
"CANCEL INTERVIEW" link
Just ask questions you think you already know the
answer to. It's always good to get another I think if you came off as genuine, it's okay.
perspective. The interview day has fifty million people
asking if you have more questions so I think
Or ask personal questions that encourage them to saying that your questions have been
share their perspective with you on the program, answered is okay
some aspect of psych, or the local area.
Depends on what you want your future practice to

look like < E: Wow.
Pro: I feel like l33t when I use CPRS. I like working D: I've been advised to avoid why and how
with the Vet population. questions because I've heard that
Con: VA food seems to be universally horrible. Maybe interviewers can become defensive.
not the best training in terms of diversity or setting.
Yes. <I think there are definitely still some

programs that haven't filled all their spots.
At the very least, expect spots to open as some Based on the comparative invite numbers
people cancel. for some of the larger programs
<I think that must be the case. The chair was not at I interviewed with chair at one of my
my interviews either interviews but not the others. It just varies.
Thank you. That's a load off my mind. No
one in my family is familiar with the process
Interviews continue through the end of January so I so I just needed someone to give me a
doubt any program finalizes their rank list mid-
January reasonable response. I feel like I can go do
my mission trip overseas with a bit more
ease. Thanks!
I have this same question about Spokane Providence
Just got this too, that's how I am interpreting it

(waitlist) Got it as well. Not emailing them
Just send them a really nice email and apologize and Do it now for sure. Perhaps they can still
that you have a schedule conflict. The faster you rip offer it to someone who can take it. And
the bandaid off the better. congrats on the top choice.
You would have to be extremely selective
prob. LOIs have higher chance at yield I think than
interviews. towards programs that aren't already at
waitlist and you have strong connections to
Lol some salty person deleted the comments here <<----LOL OH SHIT!
Same as asking someone out in real life mate <<---- great comparison
I don't suspect it will work like that this year. At least <<----i concur w/ this. i was smoking it thru
looking at the sample on this spreadsheet, I think the first week of October and then nothing
more invites went out in September and October this until 1 on monday of this week. I think it
year than last. There should be a steady trickle in will trickle as you said and we could expect
Nov as people drop interviews, but I doubt it will be possibly to get another or two depending on
18% this year. Especially as more people are hanging your apps and how things work out. it's
on to more interviews becasue they're woosies. mostly over imo, for most ppl.
My entire region has ghosted me, while i'm getting SAMEEEEE got all these west coast and
decent academic offers elsewhere ghosted by all of my midwest like what
That is a straight dicker. You could always

reach out to the PD and communicate how
fired up you were to receive the invitation
That's kind of frustrating :/ sorry. Are you able to and that you were both punctual and clear
take the second date? << I can't because I already in your response regarding the preferred
had an interview scheduled on that date but I guess date and the delay in response prevented
I'll try and reschedule that one to figure this one out? you from getting a date that works for you.
Give it a shot. See if they will add you to a
day that works since they are at fault not
you.
<sit tight Pace yourself lest ye waste yourself
<<<Yeah. What's the point of trying to learn

I would just coast bro. Value them as they value you. something when you aren't going to get any
Can't hurt you at this point as long as you don't do personal gain out of it. I would let them
something unethical or criminal know you need some days off for a last
minute "interview."
<<----It's bc u were crushing that interview
"It's still early in the season brah" so hard that he had to zone out as to prevent
himself from drooling, is my suspicion
<< ----if you were truly this concerned all

along then why did you not already prepare
<omg I am in the same boat, around same # of for it and take it? I believe the vast majority
interview offers but without step 2 CK score (I of ppl have already taken it and received a
already took it though). Make sure to study hard for score. Does not make a lot of sense based on
it because it's a LONG and hard exam! You are also
at a disadvantage because you're well into MS4 your reasons provided and limited
years. I'm sure I bombed it because I didn't study for information. Please don't take offense but
it that much and I deeply, deeply regret it this seems like something that was entirely
avoidable and now you are having a reaction
to poor planning/decisions
Accordingn to NRMP PD Survey for 2018 (N=58):

19% of ii's were sent in Sept, 54% in Oct, 18% I expect around 4 for myself. I got some
in Nov, 6% in Dec, and 2% in Jan. invites this week already
I heard in California people dominate

moonlighting on weekend shifts in exotic
Better question is, which allows the most locations but I have also heard the big bad
hours/best pay for moonlighting wolf is coming to shut down a lot of
moonlighting opportunities for residents in
Cali so?
Don't make it a huge deal, but if the program is
trying to inform you in good faith, they should have
no issues with addressing the program's
Phrase it as "what is your program best at
weaknesses.
and what could it do better?" It's a
reasonable question that offers good insight
Any program that gets really antsy or offended into a program.
from soft questions is not worth matching into.
Honestly, would like you to work with people so
obssessed with appearances?
I think an interview is an interview;

My GUESS would be a courtesy invite is when although I'm not sure how programs
they interview you at the end of a subi. Im pretty determine the # of people they will
sure if they are wasting a spot on you to come in interview in a given cycle, but if they
on a regular interview day, you have a good shot. determine that # to be 100 and you got 1?
then you have the same shot as the other 99.
< :( I got 4 in 20, so I feel ya dawg
You don't have to transmit it, but most want it

before they rank you. And some want it before Well guess I won't be getting ranked then lol
they interview you
<<---- have you not received any yet? << Am I
I assume at the end of interview season
supposed to? <<pretty sure that person was being
before ranking in Jan/Feb
sarcastic since prob too early!
If it comes up, talk repsectfully about both

sides of the argument. I wouldnt want to be
Tell them what they want to hear
at a place that asks but isn't actually
interested in my opinions.
same no I have a lot
It's a coping mechanism for dealing with the

Just got 2 invites today
interminable angst of waiting in this process
< can you clarify? I have looked up all of my
Yes. programs website and non of them specify
that I must have this.
This is impossible to answer because you

could have one and match that one, or you
I am at 10 and I have no idea either whether I am
could have 20 and no one matches
safe or not you<<<currently have exactly 20 and afraid
to cancel becuase of this.
the coming trend in the residency

<<---- haha, very true
application process, hiring agents!
"Good morning, May I have an interview?",

asks the applicant. "Did you fill out an ERAS
idk have never tried that and i feel like it's not the application?", responds the program
best idea coordinator. "Yes", affirms the applicant.
"Then wait for a f*kin response!", exclaims
the program coordinator.
You can't change scheduling conflicts. (And
If programs would stop offering interviews on the
programs can't access your Karma Score.
exact same days as each other, this would be
Unless they really do have their own
easier. // THIS. spreadsheet about applicants...)
<same boat as OP(except applied 60) and I

<How many interviews do you have though? have 4. 3 at top 20 and 1 community. it
makes no sense.
i think that means they are likely coming with a

it means you're anxious and holding onto
rejection next. usually they would have like 5 slots
any eety beety hope that they're interested
left or something and they are looking for 5 in you ... i speak from experience
superstars to fill it
< OR Status of Your Application lol... smh < or THANK YOU FOR APPLYING
< if anyone feels compelled to update the IV Offer
There is one interview spot available on
tab with available inerview dates/if they are all full,
Thalamus for Tues, Jan 8th. (11/1)
it would be greatly appreciated by many!
<I love your optimism! Since we can't forecast the

Not feeling optimistic myself. I hope you all
future we might as dwell in hope rather than
are right
despair. I think there will be more coming too!
Dear X, Thank you for the interview to X.

Unfortunately I need to cance my interview on X
due to a scheduling conflict. I hope this gives
another applicant time to fill this spot. I appreciate
your help and wish you and your program the best <Thanks so much!
throughout the rest of interview season. (Or
something like that, I think some people also
withdraw through ERAS and let the coordinator
know)
< oh yes! Asked both places for other dates

Yikes, that is rough I hope you disposed of all
and even classmates. It was less than ideal.
your options before doing this Just really bad luck I guess.
< Clearly the most plausible solution. I
Why not just stick around for two weeks until your actually meant I booked the flight for 2
interview? Problem solved weeks from now... but it was supposed to be
today
It's a small program with 6 PGY-1 spots. Not a lot

of research available. Dedicated to treating
Thanks! What's the status of ii's? Sent a love
minorities and has a inpatient rehab center. Works
letter and didn't hear anything.
with VA and inpatient mental health hospital.
Anything else you want to know?
i wrote 4 and had zero confirmation

respones and zero results from sending
them, at least to this point, so my personal
experience says they haven't helped much.
But, some people feel they yielded invites
Same, it's the most frustrating thing, but gotta do and I think it's probably just very
what you gotta do. Lick the boot situational. I do not plan on writing any
more. I have been sitting on 10 invites since
10/4 and it's been frustrating to go from a
steady stream to radio silence over the past
3.5 weeks. Not sure whether to expect
anything else to come thru at this point.
you and i know you'll be checking it anyways! lol <<<<<<< THIS lol
<-- I got a message that said i have 24 hours
to decide if I want a spot. Then, thalamus
<--this so much was down last night, I couldn't sign up on
my phone, and within 8 hours of the origianl
email, it was dust.
I peed two times in a dinner, the first time was

before apps were served lol. If i was mid-convo I
just got up and said "be right back" and make it
Lol, this is awesome. Maybe bring the
really obvious I'm looking for the bathroom. Don't
straight cath with just in case.
be weird about it and it'll be fine
//You peed mid-convo?
I just view my options. For some reasons, people

If people are drinking, have a drink (if you
will judge if you drink. For odd reasons, not as
want), just don't get drunk. Though often
many people judge if you don't drink. It doesn't
times alcohol isn't covered by the program
make a ton of sense to me but seems safer not to and you have to pay for it seperately.
drink.
So UCLA Harbor doesn't tell you until closer to

your interview when the dinner will be :( so sadly I
If you contact them in advance, they will
am having to miss it because I'm flying in from out
send you a list of all the dates/times of the
of state and didn't know in advance when it was.
social events. They only interview about 4
You can try to snag an interview date closer to a people per day so they don't do a dinner
dinner, but I didn't know I should try to do this in every evening beforehand.
advance, otherwise I would have tried to choose a
different interview spot.
Hey... I feel you. In case this helps anyone,
https://skiplagged.com/ saved me a LOT ($500 in
one case) on airfare. read the terms super
I recently found out that my school has
corporate discounts for hotels and cars etc.
carefully as some of the flights are inexpensive
See if your school provides something
because you're sketchily hopping off at a layover
similar. Also, I travel with a small suitcase
(can't use miles, can't check bags etc) . . . so that doesn't need to be checked in, which
obviously not good for all travel, but hopefully it saves the cost and ensures that they won't
helps at least one person. Weird that we're gonna lose my luggage with my interview suit
have this time after graduation but no $$$ to go
anywhere.
<I keep telling myself this MUST be the reason I wish this was the reason why today and
haven't received IIs. yesterday have been silent!
I know a resident who last year had to cancel an

interview the day before because he got sick. I
hope most people who do it last minute have a
legitimate reason. But it's a good reminder for
everyone to cancel in advance. Also, congrats on
your ii!
I heard from current residents that only the

<so friday night, there would be a dinner?
Saturday dates have dinners.
< My CS isn't back and I've still gotten a few
I don't take CS for another month so i really
interviews. I feel like there is nothing to lose at this
hope this isn't holding me back!
point. Good luck.
Thank you! Good luck! How much notice is

Thank you!! which ones did you cancel
everyone giving on cancelled interviews?(not that I
today? It would be helpful for us to know
have any to cancel!)
Programs understand. I am on a sub-i right now

and a girl rotating with me is taking off two I'm on a sub-i took two days off last week,
consecutive Fridays to interview elsewhere. I will be taking two off this week, one next
checked with a sub-i before accepting a week, and one the last week. There is only
November time slot, and they said they would so much you can do, just communicate with
totally understand if I had to leave for interviews. I your school and the rotating schools
told them that I would not abuse their charity. The coordinator. The residents and faculty have
moral of the story is that they get it and want the all been supportive and understand that we
best for you. Communication as far in advance as need time for interviews...they get it.
possible is the name of the game. Good luck.
Yes Don't do it.

The residents have the program credit card and
don't care. I wouldn't go out of my way to spend a Omg what program is this? sounds
shit ton of money, but if they're taking you out to a delightful. my interviews so far have been
restaurant, it's ok to eat what they have on thier small dishes everyone passes around!
menu.
I got confirmation right after. Related question: If

arriving from the airport, what's the best way to get Google "airport line"
to hotels / Temple? Trains, bus, Uber?
<<< Not sure where this comment was

going, but when I hear "pumping" in
Keep pumping out th......*(e LOI's). lol
response to a tinder reference I know where
my mind goes.
Categorical < Is Yale done offering interviews?

No, they know we all have to go on interviews! just
be honest and bring it up now and ask for the
least amount of time off possible to make them
happen
< Yo, that's solid. Thanks, OP. It just reminded me,

it doesn't matter if I match or not. I want to and like
everyone here, I've worked hard to try to, but if it <Why do you think you're not going to
doesn't happen, I'm getting back up and I'm trying match?
again. We'll all make it where we're going one way
or another.
Also try having your home program PD or

chief send some letters on your behalf to
whoever they might have connections to.
Both
That will likely result in interviews at this
point of the game when things are slowing
down.
<at risk of sounding dumb, what *are* the

benefits of working in community psych vs
academic? aren't your patient population in
academic going to be usually underserved as
well? I guess I'm not too sure what exactly
Tell community programs you want to practice in
community psych means, besides meaning
the community. Tell academic programs whatever. "not academic/in a big academic center" - it
seems like you would just miss out on
opportunities for
research/teaching/learning if you went
community psych after residency
Sorry, maybe I'm just dumb or not reading it
correctly or tired, but can the person from
While I would personally encourage everyone to box E explain what they meant by, "The
go to as many interviews as possible, overall trend is that you suffer diminishing
returns on chances to match for each
The overall trend is that you suffer diminishing interview, while the costs of all that
returns on chances to match for each interview, traveling remains constant." ? I get that the
while the costs of all that traveling remains cost remains the same but how is it
constant. diminishing returns then? Is it just because
you're pretty likely to match at #x so if you
Hedge your bets appropriately, the cost of an extra go to one more, it doesn't really increase
interview is miniscule to the cost of not matching your odds all that much but you have spent a
bunch of money? << yes that whats they
mean
It is different for everyone. We didn't get our

<<What was your schedule like?
schedules until the day before.
Talked to a Stanford resident, told her I'm

Wondering the same, I was led to believe that scheduled for the "last" date I saw on the
both are very slow to evaluate apps and so not to email (Jan 17th) but that she thought they
be surprised by late invites, but it does feel like it should be adding some spots in February, bc
is getting particularly late. she remembers people interviewing until
then
I've heard it's one of the less good programs in <<could you copy and paste the doximity
Chicago rankings into a place in this spreadsheet?
No. The huge waves have settled, but there will be

< what is this based off of?
more to come
All it takes is 1 interview to match. -coming from

an IMG with 0 invites. But hopefully some of our
colleagues will start dropping their 20+ interview
I would be concerned, talk to your admin
invites and open up slots for the rest of us. Also
and advisors
according to data we have probably ~30% of the
invite season left. 5% for the rest of october. 20%
in november and 5% in december/january.
If I was in your shoes I'd feel pretty damn

secure with 10 interviews as long as those
interviews weren't courtesy interviews or
The stats are all about what you do as an
reach programs. youve worked hard to get
applicant, there's no way of knowing what
where you are and if you feel like you need
programs do or how many rank you. to hit 15 because of the data then you
should do it. But honestly has anyone heard
of someone matching at their 15th+ rank?
<<< i put it there too but no one answered
Probably should go under programs Q&A. but idk
yet :(
<<I second this! I opened up a couple ones out of

curiosity yesterday and wow, our's is hands down
Psych people are the best, peds are good too
better! We are way more organized and genuinely
helping each other. I've found this so helpful. :)
Jedi?! That sounds awesome. "These ARE the

residents you are looking for."
IMG here. no responses from NY programs.

sending out LOI's to a few over the weekend. Only NY programs seem to havent sent out all
know of 1 friend that got a response from their invites yet. There are def a huge wave
BronxCare, no other NY programs. He is IMG with of competition this year so I think they are
250's on steps. << update: just got an II from taking time going through the US mds first.
Creedmoor (10/29)
Some questions I have are: Where are you at right
now in terms in interviews? What does your
appliation look like and where did you apply?
What do you think went wrong for you this cycle
and what would you have done anything
differently?
Assuming you only have a few invites here is what

I would be doing:
- Talk to your advisor (they will be abe to give you
the best advice) < worse comes to worst, you'll scramble
- LOI to programs you have any type of
connection to
- Talk to mentors/letter writers to see if they have
any connections and would be willing to reach out.
- Consider adding IM/FM programs as backup
(this could be tricky at this point depending on
what your LORs are like).
- Continuing to bolster your application (i.e. take a
bunch of psych electives, get new (better?) LORs,
do some psych related research. Yeah, i was told something similar "you
Nothing is guaranteed till you're holding that seem like an excellent fit for our program.
Match letter, but I think you can feel pretty good we'd be happy for you to stay in the --school
about being wanted name--family" and unsure if that's said to
most of the home people or only some
To play devil's advocate,

It's a little selfish, but there's a pretty good
incentive to go to 10+ Interviews. According
to charting outcomes, As an AMG you don't
Those with 20+ really should decline a few! 15+ is really get a 95% chance to match until
probably too many as well? you're at around 12 ranks. (not interviews,
RANKS)
It's 14-15 ish for DOs, 18-19 for IMGS
< won't matter. I heard Howard isn't a great << I might tell them where to shove their
program short quiz
How many programs did you apply to? If not
many, I would add the lowest tier programs
asap. I'm sorry you're in this position, it
must be so stressful. In addition to LOIs, I
Who wrote your LORS? Maybe you can ask them would make phone calls to the coordinators
to call their respective institutions and put in a just very briefly reiterating your interest.
good word for you. [OP] -good suggestion. I might EDIT: sorry, just saw you applied
try this everywhere. Any red flags? I would start
calling programs [OP] - 174 programs. tried
to hit all the IMG friendly programs. only red
flag I suppose is a personal short term leave
of absence. no failures in classes or steps.
I emailed and they sent me mine. I think

They take a while!
coordinator just forgot to send out confirmations.
No bad, several good programs despite low

How are your other interviews looking?
boards.
I've had three four interviews this week (at

good programs too)...has put me at 15...and
Last stragglers I'm sure there are far better applicants than
myself. Good boards and deans letter, but a
DO. So I would continue holding out hope.
I did. It had an attachment that was a
I think the original email confirmation they send “sample itinerary” but no official schedule
lists the details of the hotel and a sample itinerary. or confirmation information. The original
Have you checked the original confirmation email confirmation email stated the confirmation
letter attachment?- You can probably call The information for the hotel would be sent with
Graduate Hotel and see if they have your name my interview schedule. I just would hate to
etc... show up and not have proper
accommodations!
You get it a few days before your interview. I

Not yet but signed up for Jan interview have mine tomorrow and I got info this
Monday.
Foodie! <-- OP: Not even! Just the felling they're My rank list may or may not be heavily
willing to put out cause they want me. :) influenced by local food venues
If you are worried just call Heard back yesterday

The program will usually tell you when a waitlist
spot is open. I would put whoever sent you the
intial waitlist invite on push alerts. If you had tried
to contact them about the waitlist and did not
respond, continued attempts may put you further
back in the line out of spite
<<I am sorry! I hate that feeling too. also getting

annoyed seeing those ERAS maintenace e-mails
Even better when you get a decent email

So many of mine have been..I've got 5 responses response directly from a PD or chief
and about 15 ignored. resident and then a couple days later a
rejection. :(.
Do you need more interviews at this point? <most definitely

I've yet to hear anything from them nada
I sent some LOI last week and just got ii from a

NY school. But have heard from others that many
NY programs have not sent any out yet.
Why? Will they literally kick you out if you miss it? Lying like that is a terrible idea. A
If they're that unreasonable, this is the time for you professionalism complaint in 4th year can
to suddenly develop a severe GI illness... << the really mess things up for you. Petition the
good thing about lactose intolerance is that I can person in charge of the event or if they are
induce those symptoms in a heartbeat, but yeah not sympathetic someone above their head
this is ridiculous. I just put myself on the waitlist for who knows how important
other dates... interviewing/matching is.
This seems like it would be difficult for an inividual

to assess. Once the match stats come out next
year, it will be more ovbious who of us over and
under applied given the relative strength of our <-- I agree, we won't know until we see the
applications. match results. If I match at my #3 out of 15
ranks, then I'll know I overapplied. If I
I do think this cycle has been challenging for many match at #13, I will thank my spending
people (although I cannot compare it to other habits for dropping over 2k on ERAS.
years) because psychiatry is a field in flux; and
what has worked in the past may not work now or
into the future.
Per e-mail from program admin:
"*Please note there is no dinner the night

Wait, is someone telling you that you're not before your interview day."
allowed to eat the night before? << ayyy
(in the context of the post in E10 this looks
like a joke, but I promise this is a direct
quote from the e-mail)
Scheduling has definitely been very

Hang in there! maybe send some LOIs! frustrating. I hope the interview ends up
working out for you, good luck!
Uhh does case western count? I know a few that

Not TOP tier, but solid...... Colorado, UC Davis
committed highway robbery by sniping the waitlist
4 days, including the weekend

< lol right, like I'm gonna get an interview
from Yale.... My concern is
Yale seems to have only sent out one round of
with "safety" programs, honestly. And these
interviews ;D are legit, non-academic affiliated, "safety"
programs.
Could be! No way of knowing, but def in the realm

Most programs don't send rejection emails.
of possiblity
< Use your free time to pick up an interesting

<True that. On an interview yesteday, I
hobby or 2 to talk about during interviews. No one
bonded with interviewees over unique
asks you a starting dose of seroquel for an hobby and college major. Not psychopharm
agitated patient, or whatever << ha!
I'm able to remove strikethoughs. Are you

Just retype the date highlighting in the forumla bar instead of
the cell?
<-- Goes in Program Q&A tab From what I hear, they aren't even
consistently interviewing students who did
^ you go in the Program Q&A tab ûr mom can their core rotations there. (Granted they
go in the Program Q&A tab OHHHHH were UTMB students) They're very selective
I would also really appreciate this! Updated for the

programs I'm able to see
<-- program Q/A tab
Program directors are innudated with

applications, which probably means either
they're taking extra time to review
applications, or they're resorting to much
more restrictive screening cutoffs. (Or a
The average number of apps per person was
combination of both.) While it seems like it
51...woah should be easier to match this year with less
applicants, we lost IMG applicants who are
most usually immediately screened out to
begin with while gaining more competitive
AMGs.
Can you apply to any more regional
programs? You may want to consider that if
How many did you apply to? Either way send you feel like you underapplied, some might
some LOIS now. >> 40 by Sept 15 and then 6 still accept applications. >>yeah I was
more since then. Okay, I will draft some tonight. considering that...I guess now isn't really the
Appreciate the help! time to be frugal. Will try to add 6 lower
profile midwest programs. Thanks for your
input.
It's only monday, I recieved invites on Friday

I got an interview invite and rejection today
afternoon for the last two weeks
My (USMD) came out the first day of reporting Most scores come on the first reporting day.
period. I believe that's typical Though I moved my date eariler just in case
I think i got to it legit 30 seconds after email

<< me too
notification and it was already taken..?!?!?!
What a happy conversation to have right
Why does it seem like double the applicants?
now. I predict 50%. In all seriousness, it's
From a few PDs, sounds like IMGs are down. actually terrifying. Is that 13.7% AMGs only?
Stats say that you'll pass. Don't stress out

I can relate to this. I felt the same way after taking
and worry about interviews instead. If I'm
CS, but the grading curve was very lenient. No
correct like 33% of CS is graded on English
need to worry. proficiency. So stay positive!
<Yeah it's been rough to put it mildly. The

lol, i hear yah, and i was about to pose the same silence is deafining, that's for sure. If
question. it's been a quiet 2 weeks :-/ someone's got some optimistic stats, that'll
be much appreciated
Also couples matching, not same specialty... tricky

situtation... I've tried this general format in emails.
< From what I've heard, some schools have
Also couples matching is the worst. "I am writing
really good communication between
because I am couples matching and the xxxxx is a
departments. If one person received an invite,
top choice for my partner (Name xxxx AAMC:
definitely email the program and ask if the
xxxx) as well. She/He/They has not been invited to
spouse's application has been reviewed. The
interview yet. We are both excited at the prospect
good programs do well with extending an
of training at XXX and living in XXXX. I know xxx
interview to the spouse, or at least giving it
(something about how odd this might be) but I
some thought. Sending the email sucks, but if
wanted to let you know about the status of
you wanna be with your spouse, you should
her/his/their application."
I'm assuming we waitlist on the last remaining They allowed me to waitlist for as many dates
dates, based on the assumption that people who as I wanted in ERAS...earliest being beg of
are on the list are going to eventually get tired of Nov and latest being early Jan. I waitlisted like
interviewing and cancel. Other than that, hope and 8 different dates...im guessing later dates
pray? I'm in the same boat as well. might have better odds of opening up?
I would contact the attending/residents you

i think since you've contacted the pd and an
worked with so they can "remind" the
attending wrote an LOR, that you've done the stuff
PD/coordinator to send you an invite. You are
you're supposed to do. i wouldn't email the pd
enthusiastic/excited to possibly become part of
again, that's just getting repetitious and may be
this program, as long as you are not actually
seen as annoying/pushy
annoying/obnoxious, this will be obvious.
<-- can you reschedule the interview? That seems Did you take Step 2 CK? If yes, delay level 2
like the best solution. I would peronally take it as but take it early enough that its available
soon as possible. before rank lists are released.
I feel like this could be a huge issues as

I think it would affect residents who were utilizing
someone stated else where that most CA
moonlighting as a way to offset the high cost of
programs are very moonlighting income heavy
living California offers. So it might shift some of the
(UCLA Harbor someone said residents can
focus to other non-CA programs, honestly.
double their income through moonlighitng).
Yes please, this would be very helpful. Maybe also
a cancellation tab could be useful?
If you’re talking about Frieda, some of that info is

<< I wish I knew this too. I did not think psych
wrong. I did get umich invite after CK score was in
(in general) requires Step 2 CK for II but it
however, but it was released after the initial
really seems that way
release and I didn’t email them with updates.
20 sounds excessive especially if you are already If you feel like writing 20 letters go for it, but it
sitting on a number of interviews. seems a bit much
I sent one to MGH, they said their spots are

No
filled for the year :/
Sure. Anyone can add a tab with whatever info
< yes, but can someone do it?
they think would be helpful.
None of this is a competition. Stop worrying

about presitge and rankings. It's not going to
For what its worth a friend a year above me (DO
make you a better doctor, or happier, or more
school) matched over an Ivy league student at a
popular, or whatever. You "win" by getting to
pretty decent university program. I know this
make a good living doing something
because they were talking and he mentioned he
meaningful and fulfilling in life.
had ranked that program #1.
*hint: you've already "won"
I got invited to an ivy program and I'm pretty sure it

was a mistake. I'm below avg according this I got one from a "top" program and have a
spreadsheet. So I'm an exception, I guess. The subpar step 1, average step 2, but a bunch of
only thing I can think of is an Award I got which my research/interesting work experience post
interviewers have been asking about in my college. I think I got lucky and the right person
interviews. No, it's not AOA or Golden Humanism happened to read my app?
or whatever
No, sorry. no dates or you don't know?

Ask the program coordinator. Mine at the last
<Thank you!!
interview said to email our interviewers.
I am on psych rotations during interview

season, email your school and the away
Are these psych rotations? Are most people in
schools rotation coordinator. I imagine people
your school doing clinicals during these months
will be sympathetic. I don't know of anyone
(they're not at mine)? I would talk to you deans
who has failed a rotation because they had to
about how best to handle this if it is truely out of
go on interviews. I think I'm missing 4-6 days
your control to be on rotations during interview
per rotation for interviews which sucks, but I
season.
am not sure how else to approach the
situation.
Ask your letter writer if it was just a grammatical

correction or if it was content (or both). If they said
something like "I strongly believe that Applicant D9
would not make a wonderful psychiatrist" when
they meant to say you they thought you would be
great I would let them know at the interview; and
maybe update programs you have not heard from
yet. If it's just grammatical I would leave it alone as
I highly doubt you will be judged on your letter
writer's grammar. Then again, perhaps your writer
had a change of heart and made the letter
intentionally worse. That's what's so fun about this
process; you don't know the details of or have
control over anything that will dictate your future.
Back at you! :) ditto
No <I second this. NO.
I interviewed at a place where the program

Thyre all freaking out because they only got 1500
coordinator picked over 80% of the
applications <lol
interviewees and the PD only the remaining 20
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<< thank you for that!
from time to time to keep it neat
there's an app for iphone it's really rudimentary but

Made my own spreadsheet
at least it's something
Hmmm...that's awkward and unfortunate. Can you

reach out to any of the residents/attendings you
worked with? Maybe they could give a gentle
reminder like "Hey, when are we interviewing that
awesome Sub-I we had a few months ago?"
i know the feeling. how many more interviews do same boat, have 5 as a US-IMG and I see that
you all think we can expect between now and Dec AMGs have a target of 10-12 so I'm really
1? hoping for more!
To OP: If they already offered you an interview

you should still go to it. Just be prepared to
< if you send them a love letter and really want to explain why you failed CS and what you
go there, as in they are your #1, then it might work learned from it. Ideally you reschedule the
interview till after you have a pass on CS if
that's possible.
Extrapolating from your success thus far getting

IVs, if you have a reasonable number of apps
We're mid October, I'd say you'd get 2 more
remaining at similar-type programs, I think that's a
over the next 6 weeks. If you're not feeling it
very reasonable assumption (I way overapplied;
with 2 places, don't force it or you'll wind up
105 programs. So I still have apps out there. Im a
accidentally matching at a program you regret!
strong applicant overall (240s good letters) but it's
feeling late to me...)
I'd guess that waitlists start moving as

How often do people get off these waitlists? I'm on applicants cancel later interviews, so maybe
this one too as of this morning. we'll see some movement toward the end of
november
I believe people are applying to multiple

specialties to ensure a match vs. all-of-a-
Yeah, rumor is about 40 applicants from my sudden everyone wants to be a Psychiatrist;
school. More than double last year. historically, many people thought Psychiatry is
an easy/guaranteed match, but that is no
longer the case (numbers wise).
I did hear about how they were being bought out!

I'm not sure what this will all mean for the people https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/26/nyregion/mount-sinai-beth-israel-hosp
getting in this year tho :/
Having the SAAAAME problem...hoping more
spots will open up as people cancel?
Not OP: but I had a similar issue too. My

What do they mean? What kind of a person are
"Friend" (no longer) more or less implied I was
you (or do they think you are)?
on the spectrum and couldn't do it
What's your stats? MD/DO?

(OP: 238/244, MD, middling everything else)
(^ none of this process makes sense, my boards
are very slightly higher than yours, but you have
an MD and I have a DO after my name. I'm sitting Did you all with the better stats just apply to all
at 10 interviews....this doesn't make sense). (OP: university programs though? vs. the DOs with
shit maybe one of my LOR writers wrote down lower stats may be applied to multiple
"student sucks, just warning ya" lmao) community programs?
(ând then there's one of my classmates who is an
all-around terrible student, completely clueless on
rotations, and with shitty comlex scores only who
has 14 interviews....makes no sense.)
I am pretty sure CS is only important to have
If your Step 1 score is not very strong, you should
the pass before submitting rank lists so you
have Step 2 CK scores in before applications even
are fine there and yeah for CK it depends on
went out. :/
how strong your step 1 is.
when will you get your scores? <<I'm pretty sure by next week Wed
those with 20+ interview invites need to

< saaaaaaaame chiiiillllll ouuuttt and leave some for the rest of
us, lol !!!
<< according to the highlighted cell above, as
of Oct 10, <70-80% of interview invites are
pending. Trying to be patient.
I had a bunch right after MSPE.....nothing all week
>> they make me
nervous too, but that's only natural considering
our circumstances.
I sure hope so. << me too! hahaha
yes, me too. I had 6 ii prior to MSPE release...

Don't Lose Hope! I'm in the same boatttt
now a waitlist offer
I am a U.S. MD and only have 4...so I think it's

I'm US MD and I only have 2....
really hard to tell this early on in the game.
Similar situation, but partner is applying FM.

He's heard back from almost everywhere he
< should you try emailing the PDs at the programs
applied, and Psych just seems to be much
he got ii from and state your interest with ther
much slower. I was going to reach out to a
Psych program and that you're couples matching?
couple places he's heard from by the end of
this month if I hadn't heard back by then.
No one can answer that but you, it's too
dependent on personal factors. Did you apply
smart? Did you apply broad? If yes, be patient it'll
work out. If no, apply to more. If youre a
LOL my advice was basically just "don't listen
competitive applicant who applied smart... relax
to strangers on the internet and go talk to a
you're overworrying. If you're a non-comp
doctor!"
applicant who applied to 15 schools, yeah go
apply to more. Unsure? Email your supervisor.
They're unsure? Ask them to e-mail someone who
knows more
But, there's also likely many programs that
There's bound to be hundreds of people who simply haven't sent any invites yet, look at last
aren't using this spreadsheet. year's tab - several have no invites until
early/mid Oct (especially top tier program)
It's just one rejection, I wouldn't read too much

I woudn't worry too much - I just got rejected from into it. But how many places did you apply?
them as well and I have a very strong application Did you apply to safety programs? I'm sure
from a US MD school (with step 1 and 2); some of you are just waiting for the more competitive
this is just random programs, which have barely started to send
out invites.
Yeah I check this spreadsheet 10x/day and it's not Doesnt help that my friends applying peds all
good for my mental health have 34827 interviews
what other types of red flags are there?? Dude's got horns
Yes Sry 4 0, thx 4 comradaearerie
yes Yes
Great so i guess it's just my application then </3 Yes, poor Step 1.
<The length of time it is taking for ii's to come

is nauseating when compared to IM or Peds.
<I wouldn't worry yet, I had none until Tuesday Hopefully due to the "holistic" review of
and was feeling the same way since some of my applicaitons vs. cut-offs. But, boy, this forum is
top programs had already sent IIs, but ended up making me feel super self-doubtful and
getting an II from one of those Wednesday- I think impulsive; how many people check this
it will just take time! Good luck :) multiple times per day and get that sinking
feeling when others get ii's to programs you
applied to? lol.
No. I think it means that they were trying to be

courteous and reject you AFTER your application
<Didn't Mount sinai reject people before
was complete. It would seem disingenuous to
MSPE's went out?
have a holistic application review process and
reject people pre-MSPE.
I would think it would be better to have them

Explain "incomplete step scores" please. PD's
than to not, but of course its not seen as a
only care about Step 1, PS, and MSPE. if you
failure. (Ignore this, thought you meant you
mean you only have Step 1 score and no other
just hadn't taken it yet...I have no idea what
board scores, don't even sweat it
effect that would have)
Yes, instate did undergrad there <<Yes, and in-state USMD
i was planning on sending on 10/15, but may wait

<< did you decide to wait?
until November.
I took Step 1 and didn't pass, but didn't correct
Yes, 6 so far (10/4)
it. Comlex scores were all average. I have 4.
<<yeah, i am curious what % gets it since

same, unclear if its just a secondary application
based on wording, didn't seem like everybody
Yes This too shall pass
< Based on recent ii scheduling experience, it's

not being updated regularly ... if its helpful, a place
<yeah, I would agree that it is inconsistent
with a ton of crossed out dates on the
spreadsheet had new dates available
Interesting. I got the waitlist with the request. I

I got the waitlist email with the request. I am from am from coastal california. My friend at a
the midwest but not wisconsin. different school in CA got the waitlist without
request. No idea what to think.
Who here do you expect to be able to answer this
< a PD incognito
question in any kind of useful way?
hmmmm...that's weird. I scheduled a while

I got one! right after the interview was scheduled
back but never got a confirmation :/
There's no rolling admissions unlike for medical

schools. Interviewers are usually more
enthusiastic in the beginning, but you'll be fresher Studies have shown it doesn't matter, but who
in mind if you interview late. Rank lists are knows. This process is super random.
frequently changed even in the later part of the
season so you shouldn't have to worry
<<yeah still no inteview broker email. Guess I

will keep refreshing every other minute on my
off weekend. This whole process has also
that's annoying - when I got an interview from
made me crazy so part of me thinking what if
another school they sent the IB email
theres something wrong and I am not getting
simultaneously
the broker email because of some mistake and
I am going to be left with no interview spots. I
know this is all crazy just can't help it though.
< more likely that people will start cancelling, but

they can open spots
Kind of depends on your situation; how desireable < according to the NRMP Match data for last
an applicant you are: some people successfully year, depending on your Step 1 score, you'll
suicide match. But I I feel like 8-10 would be have a >90% successful Match after ranking 9
sufficient for most people. for Step 1 score between 210-220
And the fact there's so many dates filled for

no way to tell, because both were just replying
the program IV offers makes it likely they're all
back to coordinator with date preferences
filled up. :(
Accordingn to NRMP PD Survey for 2018 (N=58):

19% of ii's were sent in Sept, 54% in Oct, 18% I HOPE SO (but somehow thinks beginning of
in Nov, 6% in Dec, and 2% in Jan. October is more invites than end of October)
<<Stigma sucks its too bad. Irony is from

reading this spreadsheet, 90% of the
Dont do it man.+3
particpants seem to be suffering from an
anxiety disorder ;)
according to the email you need Step 1, Step So why would they even bother sending an
2CK, and Step 2CS to be ranked; Step 3 can only invite to those with only comlex scores? I feel
be taken after intern year like that email must be a mistake.
Socal resident, DO, 245-250 step 1/2, killer

They clearly do mind. MSPE, killer letters, killer sub-I eval at Uni
program. Fuck USC.
Totally open, don't want to train anywhere close to
a program where it would even be an issue. Also
couples matching with my partner. // Rereading
<< Same. But it takes a certain personality to
this, without context I could see it coming across
be so open, and a lot of privilege. I would hope
as judgemental of those who are unable to be
psychiatry would be particularly welcoming out
open themselves. I want to reiterate that I
of the specialties. OP, did you pick programs
understand circumstances may dictate that for
that you thought would be relatively
others, but at the same time as someone who had
welcoming? Some highlight their Gender
few role models and a conservative upbringing, I
Clinics, non-discrimination policies, diversity
think it can be helpful to some to witness different
initiatives, etc.
perspectives, including the possibility of living
unabashedly and unapologetically as yourself.
Context of course matters a great deal.
<<I doubt it's a holiday for most academic I just got one today (Sunday), so I'm not sure
institutions? they are going to take tomorrow off
Yes
I emailed them to confirm they got my first email,

they said they would work on notifying people of no ii yet from UTSW (9/27)
interview dates hopefully by tomorrow.
I'm outside the region (west coast) but talked to I'm from a neighboring state and I have one
the resident at UMN's at the APA annual meeting from Hennepin, have been told they look at
for a while... not sure if that helped at all lol certain medical schools
Comm Health in Indianapolis & Iowa MECP in

Des Moines... didn't get official rejections so
Which two said they are full already?
wasn't sure if I should list them on the rejection
page
OP, I heard back via email Same
<Doesn't seem like it. I've had email invites and

Confirmed by a classmate - they don't
they aren't showing up on ERAS.
They send out waves I think it varies by program.
Likely they'll open more spots on their current

Eeps, that gives me little hope of getting an interview days after the next wave of IIs go
interview there! that is suprising though out. That's what another program did for me. I
considering MSPEs aren't out yet. :/ got a 2nd "wave" invite and all the dates were
open
You're supposed to receive it right after the phone

Just now got it (7:16pm)! Although the call was
call. Call the program to make sure they didn't
at around 2pm. Thanks anyway!
make a typo to your email address
<< Do you have any availability in Dec for

Yes
interviews?
They sent out only 3 days as an interview
Any idea if they sent all of their interviews out
option for me and gave someone else that
already?
posted on the spreadsheet different days.
People getting invites seem to be applicants from

Where did you apply? Are they all top
top schools/top steps (east coast) or applied to
programs?
non coastal schools. i wouldn't sweat just yet
It depends how the program schedules interviews.
If through ERAS/thalamus/etc, you'll see that you People are also starting to cross out the dates
only have the ability to waitlist when the time slot in the "interview dates offered" section on the
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thumbs up
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from
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anxiety be eased soon enough
I believe Feb 20th, the same as us? cool, thanks!
This is honestly kind of normal for them. Also most

of them get free
it! Once hotels with
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Cool, thanks. I'll try and sit on my hands a few
invites they sent out were probably for their own 11/09, 11/16 are still open on my view in
When I responded yesterday there was! Mostly in more days!
students or away rotators. ERAS. A lot of dates now say "no longer
November,
Their interview invite system19th
and an October dateallow you to
doesn't available"
No panic
see that allowed until October 15 (sorry). Until
no panic allowed until November, dang it!
then, practice your breathing techniques. Pop a
<spoken in panic voice>
Xanax.
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find it on the program's website or by typing on
Check Doximity!
Google "PD name" + university and you should be
able to see the directory i too am having issues updating
yeah, seemed like they were clustered together Yes for me (but I have a personal connection
time-wise also. to MGH) <—- categorical
Our school does them in June, so I imagine it
Our school notified in late summer I believe
varies highly by school
What do you mean by "% of II"? Like what
percentage of all of the interview invites do people < yes
They may not
with given stepeven know
scores you're doing a sub-I
have? <do you think it is worthwile e-mailing
there unless you explicitly stated that in your
expressing interest and mentioning the away
application. Oftentimes, the residency program
rotation? mine isn't until january and that
isn't the one organizing fourth year (including
would
"My be time
name I'd I'm
is___. want to interview
really there
interested too....
in your
away)
Keep itrotations.
short--maybe 3 lines? I've heard & like the
program because of X,Y,Z. Thank you for
idea of sending to PD & PC.
considering my application." ...Or something
Thanks for replying! I've only heard from 2 so

just lots of rejections
was just wondering.
Not if prior year's match results for my former
If the top program's top applicants want the
classmates is any indication. If you interview,
program--then yes! ;)
you'll be considered just like everyone else.
It's totally your call, but if I were a PD and I was in
the middle of sorting through 1500 applications
and someone started emailing me I might feel a
little annoyed; I mean, I'm reading through the < agreed. give them time to review the influx of
applications as fast as I can. I personally would apps
Watchfairly
this and thoroughly.
video:
make sure to give them enough time to finish https://www.youtube.com/watch?
going not sure about "psych specific" questions, but
Yes through thier pile of applications before v=Qcv1IqHWAzg
based
contatingon them.
my understanding, rank every program I'm pretty sure they want you to be normal
that you would consider working at, in the order
Husbands = programs
you would want to match. there is no gaming the
Wives = applicants, who "propose" to
match. the # of programs you put on the match is
programs
insequential to your chance of matching.
Nope... sent mine in 9/21 Didn't receive confirmation either
Like < said, rank every program unless you
Ithere
reached out 12
are like to several
programs.of the
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sure their Ireview
to basedisonmore
process the recommendation
thorough of my program I heard from one FM-psych, but no med-psych
director. Idk how much it will help, but doesn't << not sure if this will be helpful, but one of my
seem like it could hurt. I just wrote expressing my residents was saying he heard back mid thru
interest and particulars about the school that I end OCTOBER having the most interviews.
My friend got both UCLA-VA and UCLA-Olive
Iliked.
doubtI'm
it, getting
they are worried because
all merely I'm not
affiliated withgetting
UCLA, Don't email just yet
any interviews despite being told that I had a View. I wouldn't ask them about their other
they are not different tracks of one common
decently programs because as << said, they are
program.competitive application.
discrete programs that are affiliated with UCLA
they interview 30-ish people for 2 slots, so good
luck lol
Some of the programs did list the dates or at least Check the websites of the programs you
days of the week and the date ranges they would applied to. A lot of them seem to give you a
offer interviews in range of dates.
Baylor and Loyola (and Emory) why loyola
One of the residents at my home program told me
I would definitely tell them why you're not
it might raise eyebrows if we didn't show up to the <<Awesome! Don'tI heard
think we
going to be there. it'smet.
odd But,
not toany
go, but
home program dinner but I think that outside your sessions you went to that stood out to you? I
not bad
home program they should be understanding found the Saturday session on increasing
Yes! planning on being there part of tomorrow and
interest in correctional psychiatry during
Sunday, not sure about sat yet
residency to be very interesting, along with the
trauma-informed
Hang carehave
in there! I only in Baltimore
2, but amlecture
hopingtofor
Me!!! :( Imore
grewbe
both upawesome!
inMonday!
Asheville, I don't know much about
after
the program specifically but the hospital is
always growing and Asheville is a wonderful,
Nothing more than what's on their website.
quirky and outdoorsy town. People are super
nicefeeling
My and friendly
is that there,
PsychI programs
suggest checking
wait for it
I hope so, mine are good! out!
MSPEs more than other programs (like IM or
Peds), do you guys agree?
An advisor told me that UCLA, UCSF, and UCSD
have strong psychotherapy traditions. I think he Thanks!
also mentioned Davis or Fresno but I'm not sure I have heard it is best to not bring them along.
Not sure about generalizing to other programs, but
The event is supossed to be about getting to
one of my interviews said explicitly they can't
know you, and it would just make you partner
accomodate SO's at the dinner
feel awkward
I believe research tracks are prioritized for
I think you can do it with good research
MD/PHDs or those with *significant* research
experience
experience
applied to 30+ mostly in my region and did 2
aways. so far i have 1 ii, not in my region and been mostly within my region
didn't do away
Are you from texas? West coast here, 2 ii so far. both west coast
Don't put too much stock into it. If anything, it's
These are just days last year that people reported
good for seeing general trends in when the
getting interview invites for the various programs.
programs started sending IVs last year. For
It's program dependent whether invites went out
instance many schools started sending invites
all at once or in waves.
only after MSPEs were released.
they dont know your rank, just your grades
yes
from your transcript
I am waiting for an invitation as well- same
situation! Hang in there :) I’m planning to wait until << thanks! Midwest program, but very north,
at least middle to end of next week since I’m still by any chance?
very shouldn't
You hopeful I’llwait
receive
morean invite
than beforefor
48 hours then! Thanks! I ended up getting an email
confirmation after emailing your preferred dates to confirmation from the coordinator about 30
the coordinator. I would call them today to confirm. minutes after I asked.
yes, MSPE is uploaded **sry available no
MSPE not uploaded yet. some programs are
earlier than Oct 1. I've gotten a couple of
offering II without them
invites w/o them
It seems to be about 10 interviews per spot. I agree, 10:1 sounds about right.
eras Eras (which send me an email)

I did not realize how many programs say they
For what purpose? require it for the interview invite process on
FREIDA
They have only sent out research track
I got an interview invite for the UW research track
interviews. They will send out normie resident
and I am on the east coast.
interviews after Oct 1 :)
2 invites, 1 acknowledgment so far as of
2 invites for a Non-Carib US IMG. 1 reject on 9/26.
09/22/18
I<<It
have heardthat
seems thatthey
thatsent
is a out
main reason
a huge folksofhave
wave
failed
invitestotoday
match in the past few years: they
overestimate
ERAS will email their
you competitiveness,
when you get an only accept
interview Try settle up your email where messages that
interviews with competitive places (the
through it. Otherwise, it will be emailed to you for places they pass a certain filter will send a text to your
AND everyone
instructions. else will rank highly!) and thus phone.
don't match. These applicants probably had a fine I would never pass up an interview somewhere
interview and were ranked and all, but you actually want to train for somewhere you
unforunately that's notfrom
enough atbut
programs <<That was really helpful thanks! It seems to
Check
Not out sure,
totally this site:
I am Texas went tothat don't though
me, based on that site, as long as you are a
EVERYONE will have highly ranked
https://public.tableau.com/profile/national.resident.
Midwest for med school. I talked to a resident on their own at
list. Accept interviews from a range of places: US grad who ranks more than 10 programs
matching.program#!/vizhome/ChartingOutcomes_
UT Austin who is an alum and he seemed to think
even if it means passing on a high-tier you have only a very small chance of not
0/ChartingOutcomes
that having a connection to Texas was offer to
important matching.
ensure
but not you have at least
so important that Ianeeded
few mid/low-tier
to talk about
interviews.
being from Texas in my PS. I have
If there's a city or region where youheard that
absolutely
"Texans
don't want prefer Texans"
to live, but I that
then drop thinkinterview
it's not as it was
if you If your advisors have heard of the name of the
for medical
have enough school
to feelwhere it is state law
safe matching in a to have
location program, it's NOT
I agree, maybe a safety
they're waiting for MSPE (see
Possibly.
~90%
you dooflike Or not
the classyetin-state
reviewed (it's only been 1.5
glimmer of hope comment above). The
wks!). Or a waitlist scenario eg "we'll give a nibble
consensus on this sheet is to not freak out
if our first tier doesn't accepts/later cancels
until mid-October (I say, definite freak-out
interviews."
you're interviewing for both, with emphasis on time=Nov 1st). if you are uncomfortable
<< only withdraw
C&A turning down interview invitations. you never
Make sure you have all the interviews you are
know what will happen later this season. come
comfortable with, then if you get any more, decline
december after you've done several
them. If you haven't gotten an email from them,
interviews, you may
When was this? Theactually
past fewwant
hoursto interview
it has
withdraw.
it worked today for me, I just reset my password at some
been otherPhone
down. placescontact
you thought
goes toyou weren't
voicemail
and it let me logon interested
and in. a lot can change
email nonresponsive. in a3 fantastic
What months.
system lol
question remains, what to do after your prelim. < Plan was apply to PGY-2 psych spots during
year? intern year
coordinator coordinator
Like 2/40 bostom/nyc programs have sent ii,
No I am not! Just heard from CHA and not local
chillax
Of course you do. Just be strategic in where
You have a shot. Not the new "derm".
You have too many invites, you don't need any You're in a you interview (some safeties, some "target",
good
more place to match you change your mind some reach) Soand you should be good. We're
Some programs use it to schedule interviews. You <<thanks!
safety interviews,
all in this
it seems
together :)
like it would be more
about
can't do relocating
anythingtowith
a certain area, you
it until/unless youdidn't
get alike
link out of courtesy?
your away rotation, etc. It is free and is like Google Doodle
to use it from such a program (although there is an <-thanks kind stranger! if you run across
Iapp
loveyou
thiscan
<3 d/l to your phone) something you want to share, please post a
Right link in that
the welcome page box!
Maybethereyourwith you. is too competitive and
application heard
those programs think you're likely to pick Trust the process. Everything will be OK.
something more
<that's literally prestigious
the only reason I didn't apply :/ I wonder how much more mangaeable it
makes thier pile of applications
interview invite thank you!!
nmnmnmnmnmn
gum [Nah, can't do that. TMJ steez]
I had the supplemental and filled it out in Sept.
<<Same question for LSU
but was not invited for interview
RESPONSE RESPONSE
xx
< Um, no. Not necessarily. Invites

have been harder to come by this
year, so receiving an invite gives you a
yes < porque ? solid chance. Stop worrying about
WHEN you got the invite. Just be
happy you have an invite and rock the
interview.
You mean 30? I didn't see any programs
that had deadlines of Nov 20th earlier in
the season. Some were earlier. A lot of
programs also use Dec 1st as the cut off.
It's a pretty simple problem to model.

Even a small percentage of people going
on 15+ and 20+ IVs creates a huge
effect. The system is not setup in a way
to handle the fact that very well
qualified people are going on 2-3 times
the number of IVs that applicants were
Sorry didnt mean to delete
expected to go on in the past.
I am somewhat sympathetic to the

people who are doing it for fear of not
matching. The people who are doing it
to "find the best fit" get zero sympathy
from me.
If you are not excited about matching
there you are just doing yourself and the I'm still sitting at mid single-digit IIs
program a disfavor by wasting time and with relatively little local interest so
energy. The program wants to interview maybe I'm just desparate, but for the
people who want to go there! ones in reasonable driving
distance/short local flights away from
If you can, give 2 weeks notice. If not, me (basically ones in TX/OK/NM) I'd
feel free to cancel on happily pick up any interview slots
Thalamus/Interview Broker/ERAS with from a last minute cancel with 48 hour
the time frames that the program lists. to 7 day notice. As long as it's not
You run into unprofessional territory super remote, I'd even grab
when you got the II after a LOI, you cancellations at more distant
cancel super last minute without good programs between 7 and 13 days.
reason, or if you no show.
Some programs seriously favor rotators

(home or away), but most do not. It
really depends on the program. And to
some degree the stats of the applicant.
For sure people with red flags but good
clinical skills who impress on rotation
are better off having done a sub-i than
being an unknown quantity
Hmm, weird.. I'm interviewing this
week too.. we got an email with all the
pre-interview info from Mia Reed on
09/20. Hope you heard back from
someone! FYI dinner on Thursday is at
5:30pm if that helps w/ planning
I've been on 5 interviews so far and sent
thank you letters by mail and I never
received any response. After the 5th
interview, I just sent an email thanking
the program coordinator and program <HM, that's weird. I haven't received a
director. No response either, but the response from program director but
program coordinator sent a generic have from all the other faculty
thank you to all the applicants who interviewers... <<< after sending hand-
interviewed that day. After my first written thank you notes by mail???
interview, we also received a generic shit.
thank you for interviewing with us
email. No personalized thank you notes
telling me I'm a great fit or outstanding
applicant... guess I'm not matching lol
Yes, top tier though I really am not sure
<< thank you both!
if it isn't what they said to everyone
Box E: No they don't.
I’m a current med student from MCW

and could talk days about their
program. UNC also has outpatient
during their second year and highlight
it as a strength just like MCW. All the
MCW is much further from home for residents are incredibly happy but also
you. All things being equal, I'd let go of really well trained, and a lot of our
the one that is furthest away. residents from this years class are
going elsewhere for fellowships or
Curriculum schimculum. faculty positions so you can certainly
leave MKE with no issue! I only have
minor complaints about the politics of
inpatient situations, but who doesn’t?
Happy to answer any other more
specific questions!
<❤ <--- <3 <3 <3
< all the feels!

Thank you guys so much! Happy
thanksgiving!
<sure thing. Also if it makes you feel
better I had one interview (not through
thalamus or any other scheduling app)
that went into my junk and the
coordinator sent a follow up email a few
days later since they had not heard from
me. So basically, don't think you need to
worry about it, because if it happened to
you it would happen to a lot of other
people and someone would figure out
something was awry
20+ invites. I don’t have impressive stats

(21X/23X) and likely got screened out
of a few programs (although I did land a
few big fish.) For me I think it is because
I have a different set of
interests/experience than most medical
students. I also have niche interests in
psychiatry and spent a research year <Is it really helpful to be URM when
pursuing them (w/ 1st author paper as applying to residency? I always
a result). Demographics wise I am an thought that ended after med school
URM with Ivy League undergrad which applications..
helps. I’m sure I had great letters/a
great personal statement but I doubt
that is a differentiating factor for me. I
did personalize a few of my personal
statements and had about a 50% II rate
at those programs (two of which are my
big fish)
Same same. The first few interviews
were a good practice because now my
responses are a bit more comfortable
<Agreed. Pre-interview dinners are the and polished. But after a few
interviews it's much harder now to
most awkward thing ever.bi x2
muster up enthusiasm for places I'm
not excited about. And gosh, the only
people I like talking to during pre-
interview dinners are fellow applicants
<Column E, how do you know this?? I

am interviewing there soon (am not
from columbia) and SO nervous. Also, I've heard both Columbia and UCLA
upon looking at their website it does not have >20 students applying in psych
look like even close to half of the this cycle...
residents are from columbia...
<At this point, anytime I get a < exactly...I cannot even imagine how
notification from a program that hasn't those people who got invites in the
already contacted me I'm expecting a past couple of weeks even feel.
rejection... Probably over da moon
<<----NP. Really hope we both get it <have you guys heard anything yet?
<<---- The steamers are charming, there Did they reply that they received your
secondary? I didn’t hear anything
is no doubt.
back
I definitely underestimated the degree

of competitiveness. Applied selectively
2 /US-IMG. would love to have a few
and while I'm doing alright in terms of
more roll in over the next couple
invites, knowing what I know now, I
weeks, but oh well. << all it takes is 1,
would have applied to ~50% more
programs on day 1. USMD couples good luck on your interviews! :)
matching. x2!!!
< wear whatever you have goin on in
your ERAS picture. A PD said that
<I've noticed a few hot blond girls put on
when he gets a group that looks the
suspiciously prop-glasses
same, its hard to start telling folks
apart.
<--lol....they are a new program so

probalby is still getting used to this
fiesta called ERAS. Let's cut them
<< maybe next you will get 2 interviews!
some slacks. I've heard lots of
messed-it-up-using-ERAS at well
established programs.
I think it has a somewhat higher than

Didn't Loma Linda have several
normal call that is front-loaded during first
resident suicides recently (1 of them
two years, but would hardly call it a
was psych)
problematic program. Not sure what that
guy/girl is talking about...but would be
I would be very cautious about that
eager to hear if I’m missing something that
program
was not apparent to me on interview day
Okay, that’s what makes more sense
You 100% get an email letting you know...
to me!
<-An LOI does not guarantee an

invitation at all. No way at all are PD's
required to respond to LOIS with an
invitation or even an
If you didn't get an invite after a LOI, they
acknowledgement that it was received
probably didn't get the LOI. Continue to
<-- I think G was kidding....
resend until you get a response.
F: Any polite response is better than
none. You will likely get a second look,
but not promises of an invite
I haven't had a trainwreck so far but that

sounds truly uncomfortable. I am sorry <---More than enough to match
you've had that experience, fortuantely it thankfully. I'm trying to not to let my
wasnt at a top choice for you. How many sucess turn into cockiness that will
interviews overall do you have? this is bleed into my interview style
probably easily dilutable.
<wait is this actually a question? I
think it's a great question to elicit
Just start asking them behavioral interview information but i would be afraid that
questions: "Tell me about a time you had a the interviewer might get offended
problem with a resident. How did you
handle it?" // (G) here. I was mostly kidding but
people keep saying that the interview
day is as much for us as it is for them.
I actually like CPRS---easier to see

the whole patient story than Epic, but
< You'd be practicing real psychiatry that's just me. I'm also old and very
used to the Windows 96-98 of which
the CPRS resembles
< I got a missed call from one regional

program asking me to come in the
next day for an interview due to a last
<Like which ones? Can you give minute cancel. It was a backup
examples? program for me + it was rude to give
me <24 hrs notice to interview. I didn't
return the call because they clearly
don't value my time
I agree, they must have meant PD.

yeah, it varies. my last interview was with I've heard that sometimes the
5 people and none of them were chairs. I department chair conducts some
think I've only had 1 IV so far where I did. interviews at certain places but def not
the standard
<— not emailing because the interest isn’t I didn't receive it and am below
there or because you think it is a dead average for that progam so my guess
end... is it means waitlist
i was going to drop one 2 weeks from the

date, but felt bad for dropping it so soon,
now a week from the date I realized that I
should have done it, now I'm stuck with it
since 1 week of notification is really
unprofessional. Won't do it again. Will
drop the moment I realize I won't be
going.
It's only money... Be judicious and make I was able to apply after one
sure you scan the program website to program's deadline and they still gave
make sure they're still accepting me an interview (◠‿◠✿) so you
applications. could still try
umm, I don't mean literally love

letter...more serious response, anyone? :/
I love every program I interview at. I

Yeah but we have to wait until March to
don't know how I'm going to rank any
find out if they like us back...
of them...
That's my sense as well.. I suspect

people will be willing to go to more
interviews this year compared to last
Yep it's definitely over. I got wayyyy more year, based on how many people
September compare to November ended up not matching. I'm sure
individual people will get some invites
as people start cancelling, but I think
it's going to be small numbers.
<<I think the midwest thinks they are more
I felt the exact same way. Random af
sexy this year.
<< I feel like if I email the PD and tell them

Then i guess suck it up and pray for
I was punctual, clear, etc and the delay in
the waitlist? At the same time if you
response affected me... that it would seem
get nowhere off the waitlist then what
like I'm throwing the coordinator under the
would the harm have been in taking a
bus. Granted, this coordinator has been
shot at getting an accomodation? I
extremely unhelpful and doesn't appear to
think either way u will make a good
be admitting any fault but I don't want to
choice. Good luck.
rub folks the wrong way
NRMP outcomes data show that

applicants who email a PD > 5
Check thyself afore ye wreck thyself times/week only require 30 contiguous
ranks to have a 45% chance of
matching.
Def wanna learn still but no incentive to go <<< F here: Assuming you are OP, I
outta my way to work hard/do the was mocking the person in E. That is
bitchwork whatsoever so gonna end up a shitty situation. I guess it's at least
looking bad but whatever nice of them to tell you.
Yeah, one interviewer was definitely
<<==== kudos to you for attempting to
dozing off with the head jerk and all. I was
inject some levity into the interview at
trying to be entertaining but I guess I
least. I would appreciate a good
shouldn't be quitting my day job to
pscyh joke myself. Do share?
become a stand up comedian
<<- <<- The poster can't change the fact

that they took the exam late. Why even
<—-agreed with column G We should
post what you did, what good will it be
strive to give support and constructive
making the poster feel ever worse over
advice on this forum. I believe column
something that can't be changed? Both
E was trying to just say OP should
people clearly understand their situation.
study hard Bc they didn’t feel like they
There is no need to accuse them of not
did for a very difficult exam. I think all
being concerned about the exam enough
of us are stressed by this interview
earlier. People come here for support or
process, but we should practice what
advice, and you're doing the opposite,
we should continue to be considerate
which is unfortunate if you are applying to
psych
omg even if i got one this month i would Silence for a month, then I just got an
be ecstatic invite today, it's not dead yet folks
They all pay between $50-60k <Not true. <<----ba bam!!

<-- definitely ask, but phrase nicely like F < It's ideal to ask these questions in
said. you're interviewing them too, not just an informal setting, such as the pre-
them interviewing you and you should interview dinner. This is what I've done
know what you're ranking and I've found it to be very effective.
Courtesy interview is what an MS4 calls it

when they do a sub-i, interview at the
I thought a defense mechanism was
program, and aren't ranked by the
like a donkeiy punch
program. It's one of the classic MS4
defense mechanisms.
Woah, which schools? Im so sorry for your Same here. Rejected from U Utah and
loss :/ U Texas San Antonio this morning.
Have you gotten interviews without CK? I

have gotten a few, but it has been rough.
Also, follow up question: Does anyone << no, it does not show if a test has
know if the USMLE transcript shows if a been taken
test has been taken but the score isn't
back yet?
<<Programs send love letters? What do Shall I compare thee to a summer's
the letters generally say? day...
<< I know someone who didn't match

last year because faculty interviewers
<< exactly be tactful but always true to disagreed with his progressive opinion
yourself, if they don’t like who YOU are it on a topic related to diversity. (One
may not be a good fit anyway! program explicitly stated this in an e-
mail when asked afterwards.) I would
be careful about this.
Do PDs really look at/care where you

Silence from my same-state state-school
went to undergrad? Are their legacy
undergrad too :(
admissions for psych residencies?
I have 20. I have too many. I will

<< Look at this guy with his interviews : relinquish them like wild hounds to fall
upon the needy.
< Many folks have to make-up core
clerkship rotations during 4th year, for
It is expected that you will have all your all kinds of reasons. I don't know the
clerkship grades before 4th year? answer to the OP's question, but best
not to spread information without a
citable source.
<<agreed, impossible to know because it

depends on how you interview; if 1 or 2
programs LOVE you and you interview
well, then they'll rank you highly and you'll
match. if the programs like you or are << This
curious, and you interview well, you may
get ranked, but hope that those ranked
above you match elsewhere to ensure
that you match.
I'm not sure that this holds water when

you consider geographic preferences.
A LOI to a program outside of your
True, esp about highlighting a weak region is likely to be more valuable,
applicant, I've gotten more rejections from especially if you can demonstrate a
places that I sent an LOI to because the motivation to move (would this have
closer peak must've shown that they didnt' been better handled in your personal
want me, but at least it was closure statement to said program? Yes). Of
course, top tier programs recruit
nationally and, as you say, recruit
superstars wherever they may be.
I feel like calling would've been okay a

<<----this can be a tough process and
decade or two ago but with the way our
can evoke desperation. I get how
society functions now through text and
frustrating and emotionally taxing it is
email and such, that it seems too forward
at times. I do not think a phone call
and too personal. I'd say email or try and
requesting an interview is an effective
have someone check in if you know
method of obtaining one however
someone at the program at most.
Lol, correlation does not indicate
causation. You're fine. This process just Thanks!
sucks!
<<Honestly, I would say average at

If you had to be honest with yourself, how
worst but could not confidently say
strong is your app?
"amazing"
And I shall wait for my rejection then...
Blows pretty hard doesn't it? U WASHINGTON just shook everyone

<<Thanks!
Told myself I'd rather get rejections

Already shaping up to be NOvember for
than silence - got my first rejection
me and my partner :(
today and I realize I lied
Be careful with the scheduling conflict

angle though. I used that on one of mine
and caught some attitude from the
<<---- quite a lot of sass there
coordinator, who asked very bluntly, "Is it a
scheduling conflict or are you withdrawing
your application?"
Not all bad luck on my part, I could

have had a better application. But I'm
trying to stay positive! Hopefully the
trickle down interviews still come
I am terribly sorry for your troubles then through and not on the few dates I
already have scheduled! I do
appreciate your sympathy. I know this
is hard on everyone in some way or
another.
Be careful with the scheduling conflict
angle though. I used that on one of mine
and caught some attitude from the
Whats the deal with southwest?
coordinator, who asked very bluntly, "Is it a
scheduling conflict or are you withdrawing
your application?"
Don't apply if you don't have a beard. Ba-

LOL
dum-tish
I've sent out probably more than

<< exact same to first 1/2 half of this recommended and have only received
1 ii from it
Responses got deleted from here, several

others said no luck w LOIs. Also when
people say what to write in them, I get
slightly annoyed as I’ve definitely done all
of those things to no avail. They don’t
make up for lower board scores if a
program is primarily targeting applications
with higher scores and not holistically
ERAS has been up for hours
reviewing each applicant IMO. Maybe at
the occasional program or for the ones
that review more holistically they work. I’m
also wondering if some PDs don’t find
them more annoying than anything. Plus
they get so many I’m sure so how do they
know who even to believe when they
profess their interest :/
Did they switch to the round-based
<--aww!!!
waitlist?
just wear a diaper, and when you're about

to release, make that funny face babies
make when they pee ... 8-D
I have one drink (maybe sangria-ish) if the

residents are drinking. I definitely have I am always the awkward first one to
one drink if they order alcohol for the order a drink. Just go for it :D <<<
table. If no one else drinks, I don't order a Samee
drink.
Other than holiday weeks, they schedule

one dinner per week.
When churning credit cards ends up
Yeah it depends what airline though :/ saving me a shit ton of money on
united economy for example charges for flights and hotels for interview
carry bag anyway so you may as well season...feels good, everything paid
check a bag if you buy their economy with points/miles. Finally my hobby
ticket. SW helps if they have a good rate meets my schooling/job. Would have
on a flight because carry on or checked rather used it on flights to
bag is free europe/asia/africa etc. but still feels
awesome!
I'm sad my days of getting interview Those days never began for me but I
invites seem to be over. *Sigh.* still am sad
Why are they one of the only places that Not all places have a dinner, and to be
don't have a dinner? <-- why do you want honest it saves me a hotel stay so i
a dinner so badly? Withdraw your app don't mind
<< can't speak for everyone else in
this thread, but for me, I was "tricked"
by a classmate. No need to go into
details, but scheduling CS is a pain,
and I had two people retaking the
exam from my class when I took my
If I may ask why did you all wait so long to
CS. Didn't know they failed, but they
take CS. Our class was advised to have a
were pretty open about it. Many
complete application by sept 15th.
students from UC schools as well
were taking it at the same time. In
fact, the way everyone was so friendly
with each other, I'd say everyone
knew each other, and then it was the
three of us from our school, lol.
someone deleted a couple of responses OP here - the interviews I cancelled

here giving out info about which programs were in the south/southwest and I
people are going to be dropping over the gave plenty of notice (they were for
next week. December/Jan)
I'm on a psych sub-I right now and

had to take two days off to fly to the
other coast for an interview. They
were very understanding. I think it also
helped that I was really apologetic and
<< I hope this is the case for me on my IM
explained that this was the only date I
sub-I next month. So checked out now so
was given etc. I think as long as you
I'd honestly rather spend my time doing
spread it out as much as you can and
interviews... if I get anymore II's that is lol.
don't miss out too many days (I'd say
two to three interviews max), it's ok. I
have a random rotation next and will
probably take more time off, I hope
they will be understanding.
FREIDA has all of the emails <--- yes this

Not OP, but Indiana is a steakhouse
<<hahah!
I received an interview offer today

<I tried to reschedule my original interview
(10/29) for the categorical track. There
date and it seemed like most dates are
are three interview dates still open, the
now waitlist?
rest are waitlist.
<< same here. I have two in-state and
I also am so worried about the little one out of state. Two of them are for
interviews I’ve been getting away rotations and I'm afraid they're
just courtesy invites. This really sucks.
< If I were a PD I'd be much more

inclined to higher rank the kid who
< Would that look bad to the home PD?
only wants to come to my program as
Like, would it make them second guess
opposed to sampling all over...
you as an applicant?
assuming both kids are both equal
applicants
usually get paid better in community.

people like academic for research,
teaching purposes and if they want to be
involved in medical education/clerkship
director, PD, etc. people also like the
prestige of working in academic settings.
others please add your thoughts! (F: but if
you really wanted better pay I'd assume
you just go into private)
:right so if you look at NMRP's match data
for last year, for psych, if people ranked
20+ programs they maybe had a 99%
chance of matching. if people ranked 15, it
was more like 97% I think, and if they
ranked 12, it was maybe 95%. So you're
spending let's say $1000 more to go
maybe 3 more interviews out of state,
Box F here - just saying thanks. i was
while only increasing your odds of
so tired that day that like nothing
matching 2%. Also keep in mind this is for
made sense, and i was like but... but...
the average applicant, so if you happen to
more interviews = more chances! but it
interview very poorly, then you could be in
doesn't really. it plateaus like whoa
that 1% who doesn't match at all even if
you do rank 20 programs. I also think the
more interviews you do, the worse you
end up interviewing at the end of the day
perhaps for some people, so your
chances may actually be BETTER for
matching at program "X" if you do fewer
other interviews. hope this helps!t
I started at 11:30 and ended at 2:30.

Some applicants with the same start time
left after I did though.
< I have also heard terrible things about
the program. and my sources are from
separate attending psychiatrists (none of
them are from chicago though so I would
take what they say with a grain of salt)
< so weird, i'm not sure why though
that warned me not to apply there. They
said that they thought the psychiatrists
coming out of there were poorly trained.
On the other hand, they all raved about
northwestern.
< I have also heard terrible things about

the program. and my sources are from
separate attending psychiatrists (none of
them are from chicago though so I would
take what they say with a grain of salt)
that warned me not to apply there. They
said that they thought the psychiatrists
coming out of there were poorly trained.
On the other hand, they all raved about
northwestern.
<< the issue with extrapolating trends

based on old data, previously we still had
25% left in november and beyond, but
also previously possibly there were still
i had a friend last year with one
that many interviews left to give. it could
interview, and then he matched that
also be that we have only 5% left,
one. one is all it takes.
because there were more applicants this
year and thus they're all filled. just keeping
it real, and I'm not basing this on any real
data either also just extrapolating
I'm looking at the NRMP charting OP - Cool, thanks responders! I'm

outcomes for DOs. It seems like there was gonna start declining interviews if I get
1 person with 14 ranks who didn't match, any more (or if I like the program, then
1 with 15, 1 with 16 or more. Out of the I'll cancel out old ones). I'm all for
people with 10 ranks, 17 matched and 3 each of us making it, so I hope that if I
did not. It is not specified, however, do get any more and turn them down,
whether the unmatched people matched that they go to folks on here. Good
to a different specialty luck, everyone!
Yes i love everyone on here as well as
people i have met on the trail thus far!
< ❤❤❤❤❤
Would love to match with all of you and
we will all be amazing psychiatrists!
I went to Zucker Mather interview and met

at least one IMG there. Their resident
<< Thanks for the advice! I love the
classes are mostly IMGs. It's also a really
people in this... uh... google doc?
nice program with minimal call and good
popcorn, maybe contact them?
Yeah, reading that one dude have 40
interviews and me only just having gotten < He was trolling
a second one is driving me nuts
Sounds promising but would not put all my

eggs in that basket. Unless you know and
trust the PD and they say in no uncertain tell the PD to put it in writing
terms "there is a spot here for you if you
want it" I would take it with a grain of salt.
<- agreed! Those sitting on 20+ should

I've got 16. Dropped 1 today, and will
probably drop a few for the single-digit
do another tomororw.
people to pick up though.
<< we already passed boards and

hey guys, so the quiz is not graded or
countless exams, why do they need the
anything, they just want to see how
quiz? It just gives such a bad impression
you answer them....must be a reason
of the program. Maybe it serves a
they're still doing them. you have a lot
deterrent against those not really serious
of time in the AM to work on it in b/w
about going there <<-- I don't know of
interviews.
anyone who is serious about going there
please share your stats and we can help
you evaluate your situation; i will keep an i'd email the img friendly programs.
eye out for your response [OP] - 206 and pick a few places to call since it
215 IMG carib. you can find me on the sounds like you're getting desperate,
applicant info tab. I know I dont have and i'd apply to backup residency
stellar grades, but no fails, no red flags choices in another specialty like fm or
other than personal short term leave of im or something.
absence.
Im at close to 20 interviews, high

Congrats! You can definitely reach out to boards, DO. My fucking sub-i (who
folks, but not sure there is much else you take DOs) which I honored and got a
can do. It’s possible there will be a final great LOR and was told I'd get an
round of invites and you’ll snag one of invite hasn't given me shit. I don't get
those spots. it dude...this shit doenst make sense
all the time.
I suspect the waves are over, but

continued trickles of sporadic invites from < I only have 7.... guess this is it for
late-inviting programs and cancellations me
should continue.
Just call the PC today to make sure
<— thanks!
everything is all set.
Charleston and NOLA are both far

LOL, that's hilarious higher on my list due to the food
options.
I'm in the same boat. Haven't heard back

about a date yet either
I sent one 2-paragraph-long love letter
and the PD replied "thanks". however,
LOIs are the new ERAS app +2 from this sheet, the program has
rejected people, I have yet to be
rejected. So i guess that's good?
Then I would send LOIs with the updated

<- I'd do it only if your CK score is
score, and if you can do it genuinely,
worth bragging about.
something about why you'd be a good fit.
Got an interview today after sending
No. I even sent a LOI and nothing.
LOI << check out this person, with
Anyone knows what's going on?
their interviews
I feel like for some places maybe

people are not filling out the sheet. If
you look at St Luke's, it says all
interview days are filled and yet there
are <10 reported interview invites.
<< Montefiore ....Got one from them too
Similarly, I went to an interview at a
10/25. Seems they're receptive!
place with <10 on the spreasheet and
there were at least 8 people there and
it wasn't even the first day they were
holding an interview. So I'm wondering
how accurate the info is
<--Worked for the newest Supreme

Only lie about things that cannot be
Court justice< and he's no idiot. sexual
proven. Suspected is fine, but not proven.
abuser? sure...but no idiot.
<< this is very hard to assess on an

individual level, group trends may not
apply (statistical power)
<< Lolol, but at UC Riverside they're
And they’re doing EGDs on all the doing a "happy hour" after the
applicants to make sure! interviews rather than a pre-interview
dinner
<< Thank you! :)
GWU UTSW
I emailed some PDs, think that it's pretty
variable so don't think you need to scare
yourself into thinking that everything's Yeah this is
over. For sure there is a slow down, but
programs are still reviewing applications
<<Probably means your application is

What OP i think is trying to say is that
in a "hold" group that either hasn't
there are programs that do send rejection
been evaluated for IV yet, or is to be
emails, but they haven't received a
used as an internal waitlist if slots
rejection either so what does that mean?
open up
<-- Nope I'm highlighting in the cell. I

double click the cell to expand it ->
highlight date -> click the strikethrough
button so its not pressed -> click a
different box to escape the call ...And
the content is still on strikethrough. -_-
< Checking interview broker for u
< I killed my sub-I there and got a great
guys, there are 3 days open at UT
LOR and eval...I'm shocked I haven't
Austin (one spot left each date).
gotten an invite yet. Any idea if theyre still
Maybe try to send them an email
going out?
expressing your interest in the school?
Things got competitive since 2010 not

because of increased interest in the
Psych still had one of the largest shares in specialty, it's because of increased
all of medicine of IMGs matching. Seems class sizes and new medical schools
there's still room for MD/DOs to fill in etc. It seems like IMGs (incl. USIMGs)
those spots. are being pushed out of "specialties"
but are still desperately needed in
primary care (IM/FM).
This is really surprising, seems like
maybe you didn't apply broadly
enough? There is a big dose of
randomness in this process, especially
Do you have any red flags? Any thoughts
for the mid-tier kind of applicants. I
on what your application may be lacking
can't make sense out of my own
(not to say you don't have a strong app,
invites (except for no love from top
but if you had to be brutally honest with
programs, that sadly does make
yourself...) >> No red flags, didn't do the
sense). If I were you, I would call the
best in my first two years, but still no fails
midwestern programs. It's just my
or anything, feel like I had strong LORs, I
impression, but looking at sdn and this
just know my numbers aren't the greatest.
spreadsheet, it seems like a ton of
>>>>>>
people are sending LOIs this year. You
probably should still do it but I can
imagine some programs get
overwhelmed with the emails.
Same, most of my invites were on

<same
Friday
Nothing you can do about it. It'll probably

be fine, but if they don't rank you because
your score's not back in time then that's
just how it is.
Every CWRU notification I've been there

Got there in less than 10 seconds
in less than 30 seconds, and it's already
today and was still beaten to it.
been gone.
AMGs who only ranked psych, overall for
people who ranked psych #1 was 16%. Its Its definately going to be higher this
on the charting the outcomes NMRP year tho
sheets
Took mine in July, ruminated for some of 3

months, but in the end tried myself to do
some self CBT and recognize the anxiety
when I felt it. Part of my anxiety
response was to check the internet for
posts about mistakes people made and
whether they passed. (Spoiler: most did,
those who didn't retook it.) I'd recommend
I felt awful about my CS and waiting
to resist the urge (as hard as it is!) to go
for results. Thanks for the
searching for threads about people who
encouragement!
have failed CS and what happened with
their applications (which for many, not
passing CS is not the end of the cycle and
many end up matching and matching
well!) and let those feelings pass. And, I
passed, despite my self doubt and
sometimes ruminations that I had to put
into check.
Is it bad that I consider single digit
I understand. It's good to be happy
interviews somewhat of a blessing? I
with the interviews you have, no
appreciate the ones I have and won't
doubt. But it's the fear of not matching
waste time and money interviewing at
that overshadows the positivity.
places just so that I can interview...
a waitlist opened up for me today,
< yes, as people start cancelling, waitlist
received the ii yesterday -- super
spots will open up
random process
< serious question tho, do all sub-i

I would call the coordinator. I wrote an
applicants deserve invites? Even if
email to the PD and cc-ed the coordinator.
one does well during the sub-i, your
Didn't hear back for a week but then the
ERAS applications speaks more to
coordinator emailed me with an interview
how one performs longitudinally rather
offer.
than a 4week snapshot
Shoot did not know this :( any chance it Can anyone link to information about
could change back? :/ this?
<I don't know how true that is... I haven't
gotten my Step II CK score back and I've
But you prob have a high step 1 and a
received 13 interviews about 2/3 from top
spectacular app...
programs and the rest from mid tier
programs
i don't think it's bad, at this point,

whaddaya have to lose?
seems like LOIs are a futile effort meant to

yeah I did better just waiting on
alleviate applicant anxiety more than
interviews to come in. the few
anything ... but i'm sending them anyway,
programs I wrote to did not respond
lol!
< yes, you
<<Thank you. Such an important and

<< +1!!!!!!! Beautifully said.
wonderful perspective.
I thought mine was a mistake too - Not

AOA, not Ivy school, below average
Perhaps expected: top 5/Ivy med school,
Step 1, above average Step 2,
Step 250+, not AOA (super competitive at
minimal research, but lots of
my school), Honors in all psych and IM
leadership stuff and some unique life
rotations (but not others), some current
experiences. I'm guessing someone
research in psych, but only 1 prior pub,
read my app and thought maybe I
strong ECs/LORs.
would add some unique interest? I
honestly don't know.
<<<you are not alone No one knows.

OP here - inresponse to person in box E -
they're not all psych rotations. Well, only
December isn't. Everyone in my class is
doing clinicals during these months. My
school assumes people will be okay with
folks leaving but then again, our fourth
year evals even ask if we missed more
than 3 days because if so, then our
grades have to be lowered... but i'm going
to be missing 4- 6 per rotation I think,
much like the person in box F.
Okay. This is exactly what I wanted to
Very quiet week here too. :(
hear. Thanks, team!
<-- Box F - what program? Or at the

oh wow, based on pure stats or what? very least, what region was the
program in?
gahhhh why is psych the new derm now. if If I only I partied less 12 years ago
only i graduated med school a couple when I was in college and didnt go DO
years ago... :((((
No HEB (because Dallas) What's wrong with Dallas?
you can write them in a different

language?
what app?
< I think since you're on board for an

Since the interview's a formality, maybe interview, they're gonna send you an
the sub-i is the interview? invite after they send them out to
others
< I have only 5 also, including home
< US Senior with 5 too. You're in a good institution and a love letter I sent. I
place IMO. know another person in a similar
situation. le sighhhhhhh
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/step-2-cs-failed-retook-and-matched.1304394/
<< You might find this link helpful.
If you honestly think you would not

rank a program, definitely don't go to
<< TBF, this could be prevented by simply
the interview. It's a waste of
not ranking the programs you aren't willing
everyone's time. But I am making all
to train at (post-interview) - there's no
my decisions based upon what I know
personal downside to interviewing at more
for certain now. I would rather go to a
places besides expense (and taking up
few "extra" interviews than finish the
slots, I suppose)
season worries my rank list is too
short.
They started sending out rejection letters

today so
We have ~16, which is more than in

<<--- at least in my school, no one is
any other past year, plus a few who
applying psychiatry as a backup speciality
are applying to dual-board programs.
<< should not affect St. Lukes as

Any idea if this impacts Mt. Sinai St. these are separate programs entirely.
Luke's? Just got an interview from them However, what will happen to the
this morning. current residents at Beth Israel -- i
have no idea
Well, if you're only going into it for
lifestyle and monetary purposes, then
I kind of agree. It takes spots from
My family doesn't know what specialty I people who want to be in psych
want to do. They said I can do anything because they love psych and want to
but psychiatry, because "that's the doctor help people vs make money or have
for the crazies, by the crazies." "easier hours."
nah, go into whatever specialty you

want
Friend of mine is DO with 240/260 and fair

bit of research. He's only sitting on 4 right I'm wondering if out of region are just
now. Another friend without Step score coming in later this year- I take back
and low comlex has 16. There's no rhyme earlier comment!
or reason here
Take this exam as early as possible,

and in Nov when you get score back
email PD's informing them of your new
Thanks guys! This sucks, but it's the
update because there is no
reality. My Step 1 is a mediocre 220.
notification to PD's about app
Catch me at the SOAP
changes/updates. 220 is not too bad,
if you can show a jump on CK that is
great.
IMO I would wait until next week Wed and

include one sentence in love letter noting That's what I was thinking but I've
that you were also informing them of your been getting anxious since I havent
updated board scores. you should know heard anything for a while. I didn't
by monday if you're getting scores wed if know that about the "print permit"
your "print permit" button disappears on thing lol
NBME site
<<< yeah seriously, I hate to sound bitter

but please... are you really going to go to
all 20+? I can barely schedule one a week
Sitting at 18...cancelled 3 so hopefully
without it impacting literally everything.
they go to some of you
This is where the process becomes unfair.
There should be a limit. There's people
out there with 0 invties.
These percentages are reassuring, but
yeah, i'm going crazy waiting for an e-
some of these programs sending out only
mail :/
waitlist makes me nervous
i triple that motion! quadrupled!
yeah this post-mspe period is me too, US-IMG with 3 II before 09/28

disheartening and none since
Comlex only, and just one interview. Feel

<< Hang in there, everyone
your pain. Feeling screwed.
I sent a couple of emails to places that

It's worked for us. We routinely send
already started sending invites. Not much
both PCs an email when one of us
luck so far when I send the emails, but I
gets an invite but the other hasn't for a
think I got a couple from when he emailed
particular institution.
his PD.
<< so, effectively, yes how many schools are you at now?
<yes, there's data somewhere saying
<do programs send our interview invites in
how much is released each month, but
november?
there are many interviews to come!
I'm OP - I applied to 36, about half of

them were considered "safety
programs" by my advisors and I. I'm
not sure if they are considered
safeties anymore considering how
Second quartile is not a red flag- thinking they haven't extended out any
that may be haha interviews to me. The only ii I got was
from a well-known competitive
program. at this point, all I care about
is matching - I want to be a
psychiatrist and don't care that much
about being at a competitive program.
rooting for us all! idk why but grateful
people see potential in me to give me
Deep breaths, and remember friends are invites with my less than adequate
low yield scores but if they see potential in me,
they do in you all- the interviews will
start pouring in. you've got this
Main red-flag is years since graduation

maybe being a USIMG or FMG?
from medical school (>5)
<<< same yeah same
Yes - step 1 was very strong. awaiting CS Regional Interviews coming in w/o CK
score. taking CK at the end of the month. or CS
yes, mode Step 1 score
< me all day-errday Yep. It all seems super random hah
Yes -source: rejected from mt sinai

(whoops jsut to clarify OP, was saying yes <I'm so sorry </3. This process is
to mt sinai quesiton.... i'm sure your MSPE rough - stay strong!
is fine!)
<Incomplete step score, meaning I

wasn't able to compelete the exam on
exam day. There is no score, solely
USMLE transcript stating that there
was an incomplete
<<ok, i am from the midwest and have

family in MI so am hoping to interview Yes I am from a Michigan Med school
there
How many letters do people suggest to

write?
Yeah, it's the only USMLE exam I
Is the fail on yout transcript? Only have 2
have, but i submitted the transcript
ii so far and worried its affecting my
anyway, as I was under the
number
impression it was required to do so.
<< Second this - definitely interesting got it too! seems very sparse for a
wording secondary
Hopefully tomorrow will be lit
<thanks guys thats very helpful and

encouraging.
Stupid point, but as someone from WI,

Take advantage of it, you now have a It's Medical College of Wisconsin..not
platform to tell why you want to match at affiliated w/ UW system. Sorry to point
that program! that out! Don't mean to be a dick .
Good luck!
Before I can calculate the likelihood
So can only answer for fam Med which is ratio, will need to know your pretest
different but friend of mine got off waitlists probability of being accepted into the
by sending LOIs program in question if you are granted
an interview.
Err:508
Well if anyone else hears from U Tenn let

Link was sent today.
me know thanks.
Welp. I guess I'm shooting for 10ish
programs I like then!
I KNO < HOW U KNO?
I got a few this morning as the result of

i do they are trickling
love letters soooo... yes?
<<Hilarious, GAD, if not pre-existent, will

definitely manifest with initial view of this << this. :)
spreadsheet pending content mastery and
compulsion alleviation.
<<in the email, they didn't specify USMLE Yes but there is no Comlex CK or CS,
vs. COMLEX since its CE and PE
<< It's not you, its them <thanks friend

South and my awareness of it is
constant when I get asked almost
weekly if I have a wife and kids. My
personal approach is to pick my
battles. For people I am likely to
continue to interact with, and may do
so with outside of the hospital, I will
not hold back, and I will proudly state
I plan on actively bringing it up to see
that I have a partner with whom I've
what the response is like. If they balk or
been 6 years. Otherwise, I just say no.
seem shocked, it's probably not a good fit
I don't volunteer more information than
anyway. I'd rather not match a year and
is necessary, but I never lie. I am
be in a place that supports me than be
going into the interview process not
oppressed or feel miserable like I don't
witholding anything. If they find out
belong.
through the grapevine you have
withheld something as important as
your partner it may come across as a
red flag. What else might you be
hiding? That being said I'm not going
I'm doing an interview tomorrow so I'm It's a federal govt thing, not
to show up with a rainbow flag tie and
sure plenty of places will be open. university/hospital
socks. I think you should disclose
whatever you are comfortable with.
Haters gonna hate, but don't let them
define you. You're awesome and
anyone worth your time will recognize
that.
They kind of messed up on dates for

people who applied to different tracks
<-- Congrats on your interview offer! I How does UMN and HCMC contact
hope that look at other schools too! for invites? Email/phone/ERAS?
Basically just that he was excited to

interview with their program and was
planning to couples match. He always
thank you for this! i'm couples matching
booked an interview date for himself in
with gen surg and we haven't received
the email right away - just also told
many interview offers yet and we were
them that he thought I would be a
starting to worry. what did your partner
great addition to the program, and he
write in his email to try and get them to
would appreciate them taking a
offer you an interview/review your app?
second look at my application and
consider extending me an interview
too, etc. I'm rooting for you two :]
Nope
< ah ok. I was thinking I should just

<this is good to know. i was thinking the
w/d my app from Northwestern since I
same thing - mspes aren't out and places
hadn't heard back by now and there's
are full what?!
only 1 date open, currently
Those of you that have USF interviews...

Do you know if they have any interviews
left or is it waitlist now?
<< yes, but only a few days

I heard from them this pm after the ii
They said they'd send out notif later today
yesterday, hopefully they replied back!
I applied all over lol. No ivy leagues.

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All of them are within my reach from a
guess is mid-October?
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still time for more! One of my dearest
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they just sent one out today!
wave. I'm not salty.
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Research track but only Yale has special
track or categorical?
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two what exactly I got invited for lol
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chat have mentioned ii after a letter of particularly if your connections/special
interest but I was gonna wait until next interests aren't necessarily apparent in
week to do it. your app.
So no CV or anything? < as an attachment, why not?
I've gotten 2 interviews and 1 rejection. I

Yea, I'm still at that 1 interview and 1
applied to 8 out of the 9 triple board
rejection.
programs.
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even most)
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go to the AMP med-psych conference this I unfortunately cannot make it since
friday, all the PDs are there I'm abroad for an away rotation
FWIW, I emailed and got an interview congrats! have you emailed other
(within 2 hrs of email) at a highly ranked programs as well?
program
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more chill) but apparently they withdrew heard that Olive View split off from the
from the match last year? idk. Harbor is old SFV-VA program (which is now
also good but I heard they work you hard! UCLA-VA)
P.S. Optho
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how notoriously pretty legit
maligant
Baylor is now. I know that one SDN
attending hates Baylor. Residents don't
Arrowhead
seem to stressed except for a couple of
months in PGY-2 when there were some
really bad call arrangements.
Yeah I only have 2 as well, how the hell I'm still sitting at 1, but I didn't apply
are people getting 8+ already? Hopefully very broadly (home institution is
October will be better. basically a safety).
Personal statement,MSPE, Step 1,

and LORs are the main things from
Psych programs making me feel san mateo indirector
california, residents start
the program survey from last
Psycho! :-/ to have pretty strong
Davis seems a longitudinal psychotherapy clinic
year, but I think some schools just wait
psychotherapy and also allows 4th year with
until aeverything
lot of supervision in PGY2 and
is in by october
residents to electively
I would argue go to the
that it depends onSan
the many of the residents also do the San
Francisco So I asked the program coordinator
program. I Psychoanalytic
have received anPsychotherapy
invitation that Francisco PPTP
Training Program for one of my interviews and she said
specifically invited(PPTP)
spouses and partners,
it was highlyinencouraged!
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and I happen to know this program truly
really is just program dependent and
wants to include them at an event like this.
there's no harm in asking.
+1
I'm in northeast, have 2 invites from

west coast here, have two interviews
schools in the SE. no aways. No invites
in south east.
from my region LOL
From the Midwest; have received 2 so
Mid west, 5 so far, no aways. far, 1 from Midwest, 1 from Southeast
(09/24/18)
<< nope NE program <what program in NE?
<< Yay! Congrats! I went to Dartmouth for << Same! Good to see another
undergrad. It's beautiful. Dartmouth
MSPE can grad applyin to
be uploaded to psych
ERAS,:-)
mine is uploaded now, but it says it
MSPE's are all released on Oct. 1 becomes "Available Oct 1". So, your
school will probably upload it within
It is basically 10:1, at least that's what I the next week to ensure its availability
came up with after looking at this exact
metric for ~200 programs.
< dang, that must have sucked getting
that notification! you'll find a better match
for
Most you <3
programs that require Step 2CK
Ya just worried that because I dont
require it for placement on ROL, not for
have something on file i wont get a
interviews (In fact I've never seen this
chance at UCSF and similar programs
mentioned
Did you geton anany program
invite for the website
research track Invite for the research track was sent
or a request for additional information? If on 9/24; I received the supplemental
you got an invite, when did you receive it? for I'm research
the sametrack on who
person 9/17.posted the
"as of 09/22/18" and as of 09/24/18 I
0 ii 2 r US-IMG
have 1 more acknowledgment and
also my first rejection :(
What if you have just 1 interview? lol < lol then rank the only 1 as #1
<< Maybe not freak out, but mid-late
So when is a good time to start panicking October (after the 15th) you can start
if we don’t have ten? Like if I don’t have to email some of your top places and
ten by MiD OcTOBER should I email out? maybe a couple safeties. I think It's
too early to reach out until then.
<< Withdraw, don't interview or rank a

program you're not interested in,
residency is hard enough. Plus, there may
be someone else who may want that spot.
It's back up. It was down for a few hours why can't everybody just do it through
do to tecnical problems ERAS
Thanks!
I know at least NYU and Tufts are
<< Congrats! CHA is my #1 dream right
giving chances to midwestern
now. :) FX!!
applicants
of course.my stats are similar but CK
231 and I have gotten several ii so far.
"psych is the new derm" is 'stressed out
Yes, they care about step, sure, but
psychtoapplicant'
ease the translation
workload ofofreviewing
"Psych is no << I panic applied to 5 extra programs
applications and extending interview personal statement
the first week and LORs
and actually hold a
withdrew
longer the easiest residency to get into"
invitations to people who do not want lot
themmore weight from what the past PD
lots ofafter
survey
I started
people
shows.
receiving
haven't moreidk
heard back.
them. invites.
how they are deciding who to give but
i think, from the apps I applied to and
the ii I've recived, the more
competitive programs prob won't start
< EVERYTHING IS NOT OK.
until octover. also depends where you
applied...some of it is regional based,
no worries, good luck to ya too... ? that's just my thought so far.
Don't worry yet...wait until mid oct to
be concerned
I never got a supplemental for UW and
<< same
was invited for interview.
RESPONSE RESPONSE
<<----ba bam
This is why, at the back of my mind, I'm trying to
be chill with the possibility of not matching. This
<<< I wonder if this will have the overall effect of year has been hella weird and people are
more positions going unfilled this year, since a hoarding invites and programs have been all over
lot of the interviews were taken up by a small the place with how they're rolling. And while I
percentage of applicants. don't want to do it over again, I've learned
enough lessons that I think I could manage
another shot if need be.
<< what are your thoughts on reply emails from
interviewers that say things like “good luck” or
Emails/notes mean nothing guys. Good luck, best
“best wishes”? “Good luck” sounds generic and
wishes, favorable interview means diddly squat
almost like something you say to someone who
will NOT be matching at that program…
<----<3 <3
Almost every academic program desires
racial/ethnic diversity in its residency classes. But
there are very few URMs applying to any given
field. I've had entire interview days with no << black girl checking in... most of the time i'm
URMs. <— I am assuming it does since I still the only URM interviewing, but I had a few
receive extra info about “diversity interviews that were mostly URM. some
programs/support” from schools I am interviewing programs seem to attract URM applicants more
at (MGH has designated events for URM during than others! <x1
interview season for example) <- #truth Stanford
has special diversity intitiative days, BU has a
post interview dinner for URM students..
<Agreed. I have to force myself to talk to some
residents sometimes because I know my fellow
<<----the ritual does get stale
applicants (most of who I love talking to) have no
bearing on the match lol...
< I have heard that too but that doesn't mean <<----they will definitely keep a not insignificant #
they'll keep their own med students? of them.
nil. let's stay strong till tomorrow is over. Still staying strong?
<< Albequerque New Mexico? Did you run into Tucson! Very pleasantly surprised by both the city
Saul Goodman? or Bugs Bunny? LOL and the program.
20+/USMD (with unusal background and strong

research) plan to attend <10. Very thankful for 3/USMD and couples matching. I’m getting super
how it turned out and for home institution likely worried and I really really hope that more invites
rank to match. Good luck folks, hopefully the come out in the next couple weeks.
unmatch rate would not be as high as last year.
<-got the same advice. Actually took the photo
with a pair of prescription glasses that I can no
longer wear comfortably...so I put non-
prescription glasses in and will be interviewing
with it wearing contact...not sure if all of this was
necessary at all...I def tend to overdo ths sort of
thing lol
now three times! haha
Yea I was going to cancel my Loma Linda spot

anyways. Hopefully it goes to someone who
<likewise I don't think I will even rank Arrowhead
really likes the program! <<<<Anyone know what
makes Loma Linda so toxic?
< H speaks tha truth. I've only sent strategic
letters and have heard back. I only sent 2 and
heard back from 2. though I'm 1/2 on invites
I've sent 4 and received interviews from 2 :)
To E and I: My guess is this may have been

<< lmao I had the same question as E and
some test to see how you might respond to
answered the same way and pretty much
something acrimonious or out of place, though I
received the same response from the interviewer
could be wrong. I gave a similar answer recently
except in nicer words. negative thing was I really
at an interview and it went over very well. Most
loved the program otherwise :|
people can relate to what you both have said!
Interviewer today appreciated it when I told him
all my questions have been answered during one
of the othe rmultiple interviews or resident led
tours, thus I wouldnt waste his time asking a
question just to ask a question.
<< One of my friends got a call like that and

matched that program. I don't think they're trying
to be rude, they likely can't help it when one of us
cancels at the last second and they're scrambling
to see who can come in
I actually had one interview where only some I talked with the chair at ~1/2 of my interview
interviewed with the PD....was weird! places so far so I think it just depends.
G7 -- because the interest isn't there. I know
some of my friends aren't emailing either
<— haha I did (of course) just curious about your
because the interest isn't there anymore at this
thought process :)
point in the season. So if you are interested do
email them! Lol
<< Lucky!
It's fun & flattering, but don't let that affect your
...seriously tho bro, we know what you mean.
rank list: Rank the places you want to be at, in
Sure the resident sent it to you. They may have
the order you want. I've heard many stories of
only sent it to you. They may also have sent it to
applicants being told they were "oustanding,"
half the interviewees they also liked. This may
"ranked to match," etc. then rank the place
change your ranking. This may literally be
number 1 and do not match there. It ain't over
forgotten next week. See the point?
until March 15.
I've been told by many people--residents, faculty,

even an APD--that most academic programs offer
pretty equivalent training. Just go where you think
you will be happy and want to live. (That being
they all seem the same
said, I'm in the same boat: so many wonderful
options in exciting locales! How to ever choose??
I'll low-key mourn many of these "unlived" lives:
We can only choose one!)
I think box H is correct. Ppl pissing their pants

over the 13% unmatched last year so ppl are I'm still getting interviews
hoarding interviews, myself included.
I think community programs have less capacity to
interview so they tend to be hit or miss while II have been pretty much random for me too. A
bigger programs might not. Also if your research bizarre mix of 1st tier programs, new programs,
is really strong then the community program and some middle programs all over the country.
might assume that you are not interested in them. There's no rhyme or reason to this process.
In that case LOI helps.
If you litterally can't do the date they offer, just tell

them you were super excited but your scheudle
Not sure which program it was for you but for me
got filled in for the 2nd date while you were
most coordinators were on point and
waiting to hear back (for over a week). Ask if
communciative, the only exception being Mount
there is any chance for some flexibility? Maybe
Sinai, I thought about emailing their PD but then
they'll accomodate you, maybe they won't. But
again I think it probably reflect a culture that's
either way, they should get the feedback that they
larger than the coordinator given what I have
should be setting more realistic expectations in
heard from their own people so I didn't bother
terms of when you should expect to hear from the
coodinator.
<LOL
Ugh, that sucks. I have to say though that people

who decide who can rotate for a sub-I are most of
OP: No worries. It would have been nice of them the time different from those who have a say in
to humor me with a courtesy interview. Honestly interview invites. I did a short sub-I and everyone
part of me wants to cuss this bih out for even liked me, I got great feedback and even a letter of
offering me an away rotation where I have to be rec but didn't get an invite from that program.
away from family and friends for a whole month They are all MD residents and I'm a DO so
with no intention of interviewing me. Sorry just perhaps that was contributing, not sure. Either
pissed I have to be here for the next two weeks way, sucks for you but I'd stick it out, you never
know, maybe someone will cancel last minute
and you'll be right there available for an interview
If you try tell a "joke" you will loook like an Column G here. Yeah, I was just trying to be
asshole. Column G is talking about being generally funny. He would actually laugh only to
generally funny during an interveiw. If this isn't in doze off a few seconds later. Waxing and waning
your current repertoire, don't start now. consciousness, I'd say!
To box F - OP here - I didn't get cleared to take it

til late because my school administration messed
up. There is another student with a name similar
to mine and they verified them and didn't verify
me. I followed up persistently, but they kept
saying they'd done it and honestly thought they
had. Then they realized they messed up and
fixed it and apologized. In the meanwhile, I threw <<----that is a total dicker. I am sorry to hear that.
myself into my rotations rather than focus on the It sounds like u must have done well on step1 to
boards. People at my school and on interviews have 13 invites w/out a CK score. So I am sure
have said that my reviews are the best they've you will be in strong position.
ever seen, but it came at the cost of my
preparation. So now that I was cleared to take it
and schedule it, I realized I should've just done
the studying all along. Yeah, it was avoidable, but
it's also a mindset. When you know you're going
to take an exam, you kick into gear, I never felt
that because I never got cleared til hella late.
it's been a drought for me in the last two weeks
(just one invite), even though before that I was
getting a lot. So I'd say things really slowed << same G
down. I cancelled one interview yesterday so
hopefully someone will be getting an invite soon!
<<- I didn't delete it but I saw it. Is Mather Zucker

hospital brand new? Where do you see the
salary? <<- I interviewed there and they gave us
a breakdown of the salary. If I remember
why did someone delete my comment about a
correctly, their oldest class is PGY-3 so it's a fairly
residency program starting at 70k PGY-1? <--
new program. They used to be sponsored by
unsure, but I assume it was the NYP programs?
Stony Brook but were recently purchased by
Northwell (Zucker), hence the increase in salary. I
suspect all Northwell programs pay the same but
I'm not sure
happened to me, feels bad.... PD basically said;
so yeah we are full on all our slots "i thought u
<< LOL had an interview pending", I guess we can have
an unofficial interview during lunch break or
something." -RIP 4 weeks, didn't learn shit.
Bro i had those exact same 2. It happens. Chin

up and maybe fire out some LOI to get some same here :(
other programs wet
<I'm OP. Yes I've only gotten 13 interviews, but I

feel like my step 2 CK was limiting me from Only 13. That's a good number to have
certain programs I still haven't heard back from. I especially without step 2. Also did you accidently
doubt it'll help me at this point since I know I an Ambien during the test, how does one pass
screwed it up (aka I fell asleep during a section... out during a section.
oops)
They usually come in January and say how much
<<---- They ask you to take an oath and pledge to
they liked your application and how sorry they are
rank them first
they weren't able to offer you an interview.
<<< I would be surprised if it were his opinion

alone (rather than the manner in which it was
shared) that was the point of contention. If they <Agreed. Gotta show open-mindedness, which
are asking what you think, they want to know might be useful as a psychiatrist :)
what you think. If they wanted you to repeat back
thier beleifs, they would ask you to take a pledge.
<Connections to state, llikely translates to staying

home program did me a dirty too
with institution/state after residency
I just declined 7 in the past few days--ranging

from strong mid tier to meh top tier. Those IIs
<-- drop it like it's hot yo
gotta go somewhere those programs aren't going
to interview themselves. :P
i have 3 interviews, so i'll go f*** myself << LOL!!!
I would disagree. I’m considered a below average

applicant and I know for a fact that at least one of
my top choice programs initially filtered me out;
I got an ii from an LOI way outside my region. PD
they took a look at my application and extended
responded directly to my email. Another I got a
an interview invitation after I sent a tailored LOI. A
call from the program stating "we got your
few programs outside of my region that probably
email..."
wouldn’t have given me a second look also sent
invitations after I sent LOIs detailing my ties to
the area. In my case, LOIs helped greatly.
send an LOI at most ... but those are a waste of

time IMHO; people who send LOIs and get ii's
were already going to get ii's (Full Disclosure: I
<<---- This is my experience and opinion
sent all programs in my region an LOI on Nov
1st) ... one PD responded and said, "Thank you,
all the best!" LOL
<<Box F here, I hope not. I speculate that some
<<Box F - I agree that it makes no sense. I only of the more competitive specialties that require
have 1 top 20 and I can confidently say my app is applying to backups, now consider psych an
"amazing" and I have a handful of community excellent option. Mental Health has much less of
ones otherwise. But maybe it's because I'm a a stigma and compared to classic "back ups" (like
DO? IM, FM, peds), pscyhiatry is an awesome choice
right now as a career. But who knows.
U wash and harbor! Hated getting 2 rejections

<in what way??? update. nevermind
today haha
Block G I giggled a little when i read your
<<<I second this big time!
response. Good stuff. No disrespect intended.
<< yes I say the words "due to multiple <-- be careful about using scheduling conflict,
scheduling conflicts" or "due to scheduling because then a PC may try to work with you to
conflicts" and then "I regret I must withdraw my reschedule; when I have withdrawn my
app from your program" and then something applications I just stated that I unfortunately will
regarding how I was honored to receive an need to decline the interview invitation and thank
invitation them for their time and hard work
Hey OP, I also had to cancel an interview today

and I have low numbers and felt I could've had a
better application too. I truly feel your pain and I
Best of luck block I
hope things get better and I hope that both of us
get more interviews because I immediately felt
like a deflated balloon.
<No change/cancellation fees. You just pay the
difference in ticket price (if there is one). <yeah, southwest is my fav :)
Cancelled tickets become "store credit"
I sent out LOIs to the 2 programs I was really

interested in and got 1 II out of that. But then
<I've sent out 15 and recieved none again, I have no idea whether or how the letter
made a differecne. Maybe I would have gotten IIs
from both programs if I hadn't sent the letters.
< Yup, I checked and it's been up since 11am

EST. No invites all day LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
This sounds like an amazing waitlist. Hope I get
on it too :)
Jesus, you all like to overthink everything. Just

act like a normal person.
//is it psych that brings out the weirdos or is this
common to all fields?
//Jesus, people on here have no idea how to be
NRMP data from 2018 says that chances of normal.
matching for AMGs having 1 drink is better then //I think this is common to medicine. You have a
for those who don’t have any or have two or group of people who have lived very limited
more. << LOLOLOL existances and who therefore have not
developed a sense of what is normal behavior
between human beings. I think this is also why
doctors can give such bad advice on things
outside of thier field of expertise (like when
pediatricians give child-rearing advice).
No dinner makes me curious about the program.
1) Are they trying to hide something by stopping
direct interactions with residents? 2) do they not
have enouch $$$?
I'm not sure...I received about 14 interviews
mostly from top programs with only a step 1 (no
<amazing. That's really good. Maybe we'll get
step 2 CK or CS yet)...maybe this is why I haven't
more after all the scores post
heard back from some other programs I thought i
would hear back from though...
< I also just got an invite! (I'm the person who
<Have you gotten a confirmation yet? // Yes. I just
originally asked if they were still offering
received my confirmation
interviews)
<< you're welcome Box F! good luck with
everything :)
Take this FWIW: Not sure about the program
overall, but I was very UN-impressed during an
< At this point, I'll take what I can get. I'd ratther
away rotation there, from both the
get trained miserably than not trained at all. Might
residents/fellows, faculty, and even the PC.
shoot them an app
Made me question whether I would even want to
do residency there.
<< per the preliminary ERAS data, there are

Met a DO resident who said she had 3 interviews
fewer psych applicants overall -- but more AMGs,
last year and she matched. there is a chance!
fewer IMGs
ughhhh... for BOX F... but what really is a

courtesy interview or reach program? I'd say I
could come up w/ scenarios for 30-40% of my
interviews falling within those domains!
<<<it's such a great feeling to see and meet
<agreed. I am somewhat thrilled and somewhat many of you (wish I knew who everyone was)
intimidated by the people I've met on the trail so along the interview trail and know that I will be
far. surrounded by brilliant and kind minds during
training!!
I'm wondering the same! I'm actually from the

area and haven't gotten anything! All my
interviews are far from home.
< I mean, even if he was, I'm not even halfway to I cancelled two interviews this week.. hope they
double digits go to someone in need.
I mean it's still not a contract or anything. rank

your program as high as you want and keep I have 21, just cancelled one. Will likely cancel
interviewing. why take a cahnce? another one tomorrow. I'm a DO and a bit
neurotic so will probably aim to keep it at 18 or
so. I want to wait a bit to see if anything else
comes my way before making more cancellation
decisions. // Same person writing, in response to
below and K24. I said I was going to cancel
more. I already canceled one two months in
advance and will make sure to cancel other ones
well in advance. Out of the invites I have, I know I
would be happy at maybe 7 programs (based on
I think it's more a matter of folks wanting to keep location and fit) but most of the other ones I am
a variety of programs on their lists and trying to not that familiar with (for example, places I've
decide which interviews to cancel, which can take never been to, crappy website with no info about
some time. the program) which makes it difficult to make final
decisions about cancellations. I went to one
interview which was low on my list but I ended up
surprisingly liking it. It's seriously not like I have a
shot to match at Stanford but I'm holding on to
some lowly places. I mostly have mid-tier to low-
tier places and I feel like I need to check out a lot
of them because it's hard to tell which would be a
better
^^ fit. Having
seems said to
reasonable that, I know
want it's frustrating
to keep 18 II's.... if
for
youthose
go to who
thoseare
18waiting for invites
interviews. Just be and I'll do my
realistic
best the
with to cancel more
time and soon.you
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will have if in
invest
people
that. pluspost
themore interview
fact that if youreviews.
cancel late then
someone else will have to scramble and buy
plane tickets etc last min to fill that interview spot.
IMG I knew called hundreds of programs by <<---Holy shit that sounds time intensive and
phone to express interest emotionally exhausting
I got one yesterday, otherwise things have been

< have faith bruh. Just got one today.
quiet for 2 weeks; the initial wave is over IMO
PC is super friendly
lol, looking forward to my MUSC interview then,

Serious swag bags may also have profound
never been to Charleston but heard it's decision
influences on my ROL :)
there.
< I've sent a ton of LOIs and I've landed three of
<< RE: LOIs are the new ERAS. I AGREE it's
my best interviews and a couple highly desirable
frustrating that this is what we need to do in order
wait lists out of it. At least for psych, LOI is an
to secure an interview!
essential component of the application.
<good point What's your score?

<<there's still hope! Congrats! Thank you box I.
of course not everyone applying is filling out this

We only represent a small population of people
doc, someone told me to multiply the numbers by
appllying psych
at least 5 to get a better idea
that's not right ... schools need to understand and

respect your future. a syllabus can be read later;
the power some admins yield over medical
students (and residents for that matter) is
<---Nice!
ridiculous. a paradigm shift in attitude/culture is
needed. schedule your interview, discuss with
student affairs, go to your interview. you have my
permission, lol. :D
Would love to see a program that does happy
<< that's a GREAT idea!
hour before the interview
Is umich top tier? MUSC - is this top tier?

Maine Medical Center just sent me an invite.
Look on the IV Offers sheet at the Total [# of
invites] column. I am guessing that the programs I guess it's time to start emailing Yale... lol
that have only sent out ~5 or fewer invites are still
figuring out who they will invite.
<< This. If I were a PD, I would send "rejections"

to people who I had screened out and was If others have received rejections and you have
definately not going to interview so as to avoid yet to hear anything, there is hope ... you're
LOIs from them. But there's no compelling reason probably in the maybe column ... as in waitlist ...
to reject people who would be perfectly good as in torture.
candidates to interview.
<thanks broski. *just an update, i did eventually
get my invite from there...albeit probably one of
the last ones they invited.
I know several people who applied to 100+ Some of us who applied to a 100+ programs had
Programs and probably clogged up the system. valid reasons for doing so and we are sitting in
They also have more invites than they can count the low single digits for IIs
(in response to column G) > your numbers
are not the best but not the worst either. I
can't imagine that they would be holding you
back, esp at mid-tier programs in the < agreed with H, I don't think you applied broadly
enough. >> yep, whoops. here's to praying the
midwest. >> thanks for your input. I'm midwest accepts my second round of
concerned that i didn't apply broadly applications
enough...I'm pending input from my program
director right now, but am currently typing out
LOIs
I'm convinced theres an algorithm someone has

Its probably a bot
to auto-sign up for it :/
Fake news. There are not more applicants this
year. There are in fact fewer applicants overall
due to a huge drop in the number of IMGs
applying this year. There are only 109 additional
US/Canadian graduates as compared to last << That's reassuring, but does it divide between
year, and I suspect some of these represent specialties? Or can more people who would
people who did not match last year. normally apply to surgery, IM, and other fields be
applying to psych instead, thereby making the
Programs have an average of about 50 more US numbers the same but the psych pool saturated?
applications than last year with an increase of
about 9 applications per US applicant.
As an IMG, this is such a huge fear of mine. A
Sauce: ERAS Prelim Data for the 2019 Cycle classmate of mine insisted to train me and told
me to do things counter to what the official site
says (e.g., if you provide a good history, you don't
OP here - Thanks you guys. I didn't even intend
need to fill in the support for diagnoses; order
to keep thinking about the day, maybe it's some
anything and everything you can, always do CXR
PTSD, but it just intrusively happens suddenly
and CT for every case because you can only get
where I remember oh shit, I should've done ___
points, not lose points; use nonmedical terms for
and instead I looked like a jackass. I think if
both the patient and the note because the
someone saw me on CS day, they would
patients read the notes, etc.), but he told me to
seriously question my intellect. So fingers
trust him and I thought at this stage in our career
crossed. And I'm telling myself that hey, if I failed,
we can trust one another. I failed ICE really hard.
I could try and take it again a week or two later
I retook and ignored all his advice and followed
and it would be back in time for some places to
what it says to do instead. He has ghosted me
rank (albeit not all - but something's better than
but makes sure to send me screenshots of his
nothing)
invites but never replies when I say anything...
So yeah, just wanted to vent and extremely
scared that I failed again despite doing
everything differently/correctly this time.
Honestly, I think the interview roll out has been < I have that hunch too, but I just have nothing to
very slow this year back that up.
<- Box G writing back. That's why it depends on
where you do your sub-I. I did one at a super top
program and even though I received an amazing
eval (one of the best students blah blah) I did not
receive an interview from them. On the other
hand, another sub-I I did was at a place more
within my range and they offered me an invite. I
want to say though that even though ERAS may
speak more to how you perform overall, a lot of
people look great on paper. There is nothing like
having someone actually working under you for a
few weeks
I cant find information on this anywhere. I call

https://www.mbc.ca.gov/Licensees/SB798PD_FactSheet.pdf
fake news.
<< or they're b.s.-ing, and some may already be
< dang, I think some people have better luck (or getting interviews anyways. i have a hard time
stats) with sending LOIs that result in an believing that a LOI actually helps, but it can't
interview hurt. just like a thank you letter ... but a thank you
is just courteous.
thisi s funny, i just got around to opening one of
I have the same feeling. Imposter syndrome is those psychsign emails and they were talking
real. Just go in there and wow them all :D about this same thing. guess the feeling must be
going around! hang in there!
From a low level SE med school. AOA, pretty ok

step scores and involved in a bunch of psych
volunteer work. 2 psych research projects
Stanford sent out a few dates at a time and had

groups of applicants reply, so don’t think anyone < can confirm, don't think applicants know
knows.
No. No and no It ain't over til it's over.
<-- Box F writing back. The PD and Faculty had

some kind of guidelines by which the coordinator
< crazy
was going. It included scores but I don't know
what else. The region is west coast.
it's a numbers game

it's "superficial", but honestly texans are proud of
their down-to-earthiness way too much. it's a fine
city. it's the most metropolitan feeling city in texas Doing inpatient IM at Parkland county hospital for
if that's your thing, houston has 5x more 4 months doesn't sound very fun
population but feels like one humongous suburb
that never ends
Hey buddy, I have this exact same problem too. <thats the thing though, I worked with about 4-5
Even sent an LOI to no avail. Its unfortunate different attendings, each one went out of their
because apparently all it takes is one person who way to say they really liked me and I would do
you might have slightly unintentionally miffed to well at th eprogram. Didnt have a single negative
stonewall an interview experience the entire rotation.
<< yeah, I guess it does count less :( although
<do you think getting interviews from love letters
they couldve been thinking about offering one
counts less?
anyway
From what I've heard from someone interviewing

From what I know of someone who matched into
with a CS failure, they will bring it up but it is not
a top psych program and failed Step 2CS, this
a super big deal breaker. Just pass it before rank
person did not communicate their score and was
lists go out if at all possible. A lot of programs
not aware if programs knew about it. They made
don't really know enough of what it is or how it's
sure to retake in time for matching. They still
scored to make a big judgment of applicants lol. I
matched at their #1.
could be totally wrong though who knows
i would cancel the interviews, allow others a

chance (karma points), you'll very likely get an
additional 1-3 ii's between now and the end of the
season
I think we have 12ish at my school..more than I definitely have classmates who are applying
last year too. psychiatry as a backup.
<<< No need to freak out; just something to

inquire closely about on interview day. The
<< Now I'm freaking out a little bit. I have an
residency program website mentions something
interview at Beth Israel coming up.
about this, and it sounds like their behavioral
health services are expanding overall.
I mean, I do think that not everyone is ideally
suited to psychiatry. But I also think that if you are Sorry to hear your friends/family are "calling you
truly motivated, you can learn many of the out" for choosing a great and honorable
interpersonal and communication skills that come profession. In my case, everyone was extremely
more easly for some. supportive and happy for me- I think that they
knew I was going to be a psychiatrist before I did.
But at this point, it's kind of a mute point. Do what makes you most happy- money and
Hopefully you all had psych mentors who lifestyle won't matter if you are unhappy in the
encouraged you to go into the field because they long term.
saw the potential for a good psychiatrist in you.
DO here, very good app and scores, go to school
I'm just gonna straight up call a couple places on
in CA, native Californian (like, muhreenaah del
monday. Too old for these games, man. Seems
raaah native) and I've got love from only one Calif
like the south is hard to break into? I'm happy to
program + 1 other west coast. Others are
have the ii's here and back home, but I'd like to
scattered, several in the south, 1 in north east,
check out some tennessee and wv places...
couple in midwest.
Thanks. To clarify, I'm taking it in November, so

try to take in 2-3 weeks if at all possible and
my result will be back in Dec. I'll still update them
update mid Nov
then since I have nothing to lose lol
haha yeah you can google the print permit PSA: Sent my dream program a LOI with no CK
threads they're hilarious but it was nice to know in score in and received an interview a few hours
advance that I was getting my score that week! later
<< much appreciated, *hug*, you're a good

Have ppl been recording that with the withdraws?
person.
Who is sending only waitlist by 10/10? Also I
highly recommend adding eras, thalamus and
interview broker to VIP email w special noise.
Catches most invites without alerts for every
email.
>> i cannot believe that, that is so awful of them. i

wouldn't want to be at a program that treats away
<<so maybe we all are fine and this spreadsheet rotators, who have spent valuable time and
is making it look like we are behind. I guess we money to rotate at their institution, like that.
have to believe that the majority of interviews you're doing great bud <3 don't let the haters get
have not yet been given out? you down!! thanks! i needed this message. and
yeah, they haven't been the best to me as an
away rotator, but thems the breaks i guess
COMLEX only with middling to poor scores to

boot. I've gotten plenty of invites so hold out hope
that more are coming!
I applied to extra schools the week we applied

because I wasn't get invites. So far, I have gotten
30 one rejection from one of the schools I added and
a couple interviews from the schools on my
original list. So...
<N=61 seems legit // how many programs are
https://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NRMP-2018-Program-Director-Survey-for-WWW.pdf
there? Like 150? 40% response rate isn't bad
my dude/lady.... keep it chill. you're only stressing

cause of this excel sheet. the process just began.
mspes JUST got released today. If your alas, time ... the beginning and end of me.
steps/grades/currics are strong, you will do well.
give it time.
Currently on a FM rotation and the AI's are talking

about when they are scheduling interviews (Nov).
Here I am twidling my thumbs....
<< well, if you were doing research I don't think

it's a red flag. I suppose they might question your
clinical knowledge....
Have you guys received ii's yet? Got my first one 10/1
I was in the same boat as others (had no
I can't focus on anything else and it's driving me
interviews) and today (9/28) got a really good
absolutely insane.
one. there is hope!
I got a rejection from WashU this morning. Pretty

Thank you all for your responses and your
sure it was too early for them to read our
support
mspe's :)
<< sorry to hear that. I'm not sure how it matters

were your invites affected by having the
in screening process. What did your PD say?
incomplete or was it just something brought up in
Also, how did you advance passed M2 without
the interview setting?
Step 1 completed?
No. Med school in Florida, but college/worked in

the midwest.
<< Could you share what question they asked so
WhyUchicago
I could prep it in case I receive it?
I got the waitlist with the request (CA). I'm maxed

out on interviews so I won't be replying but
No worries brah, I'm just a California airhead,
thought it was a pretty smart way to interview
forgive my ignorance
applicants post first wave who actually are very
interested in the program.
having conversion disorder; can't move ... fixated
on this spreadsheet.
<<i understand, but if you received an invite with

<<a brief email to the program coordinator would
COMLEX, it is safe to assume you are good with
clear up the confusion and provide reassurance,
only taking COMLEX, otherwise they'd have
but i think you're good.
included Step 1 or emphasized "USMLE".
Thanks for all the responses! I’m applying mostly
to southeast programs plus a few fancy places
elsewhere. Hopefully psych programs will be as
open as my home institution. I’ll be moving with
my partner of 5 years and can’t really see how I
could get through a whole day talking about << >> both directions, this is really great
conversation, we are lucky to be living in a time
myself and future without bringing him up. I did where we can for the most part live freely without
not seek out programs that specifically advertised fear... The stories my attendings told me about their
inclusivity, oops. Surprisingly enough, my home residencies!!!
program in Mississippi is VERY welcoming
towards LGBT applicants and there are several
gay attendings. And congrats on couples
matching! I haven't heard from anyone in the
LGBT community couples matching
Glad to hear programs aren't putting their work
on hold out of respect for a genocider
HCMC sends email then schedules via interview

broker, UMN uses ERAS for both
<< thank you!

Yes they did!
Same here I’ve only received one really good

i also applied all over; rec'd an interview from a
interview but nothing else.....and I applied to a
top 10 program, but otherwise nothing (WTF, lol)
wide spectrum of places
If the program
I appreciate hassupport!
your contactIinfo
am for both
from thethe PD
south <<< i believe in you! :) if you email non-local
and PC I emailed
hoping the
to be in PD
the and cc’dand
midwest, themost
PC...if
mynot programs later this month, you will likely get more
then I emailed
interviews whatever email was given the
are regional. invitations. Good luck!
addressed the email to the PD...I contacted i got my date about 4 days after I emailed them
<< helllp can’t
programs that get
hadaalready
hold ofbegun
anyonesending
there out
(including weekend days)
invites
<--not sure what this in reference to? < good luck
<<please ! // local here - they interview in
explain?
hawaii, making a vacation out of it is a good idea,
but agree if you don't think the cost is worth it
I want an interview there so bad! :) then no sense wasting your money, if you want to
< Then
think explain
about costwhy this think
hurting spreadsheet
of all theexists,
hawaii
This is why psych is the best
please
people who have to fly across
I got one on Sunday at 8pm. Now an ocean for
my weekends
Random times majority of their interviews
are not safe anymore from q5min email checks.
The dam seems to have some cracks in it now..
Midwest DO with well over a dozen ii. All but a DO from NE, recieved 7 from mostly programs in
few in the midwest my
<Tryarea, and
not to a few
freak outfrom
untilothers I have advice
mid-october. rotated at
no :(
from my two mentors.
I call B.S. on 50 interviews; are those invitations

<<most of peds interviews definitely don't pay for
or scheduled?
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you become many
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hotels (at least
<<< have at mid-tier/top
fun interviewing schools
1200+ haha) each
applicants throw that # out there to make us all anxious,
us from this google sheet that may still need an lol
year.
interview :'(
They don't know what practicing medicine is like once a patient said, "oh so people who think
from our point of view. I just describe what I find they're sick but aren't" when I said I was hoping
rewarding about the work. to go into psychiatry. I just stared at him like wtf
Cool
OP again - Also to the person who is the row
below me on the sheet and replied in column F, I
just wanna say keep kicking ass, buddy!
< I sent a heartfelt LL to a PD at my top choice. <saaaaame here (particularly because it doesn't
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Thanks y'all! then or send a love letter and include that i'll be
ugggh I just wrote one that was wayyyy tooooo rotating
< did youthere?
get an ii tho?
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and been
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met with positive response. Don't mean to sound and
<< yousowere
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invites anyways?
For reference, I'm a west coast US MD with a tie have
get a response either, but an interview invite to
no interview slots left and are planning a
to the area through my SO with strong Steps but offer more
week later. as folks cancel.
feel like maybe my application didn't fit well with
their
<<< canprogram.
i panicI do love Ann Arbor though... it's all
now? YES
good :-) < There are still a couples of days (3) left, best of
I AM VERY SALTYYYYY
luck!
Remove the protection pls!!
Nope just got one of those
< Strong Work +1
<I agree with this disagree: no CV needed. If you

<I disagree, they have your CV already email and they decide to consider you, they'll pull
up your whole app for review.
If you have a genuine interest in a program, I
don't think it could hurt to reach out after a
reasonable time. I suspect that some more
community-type programs might sit on a < Who is a "competitive" applicant tho? I doubt
competitive applicant that they suspect isn't people with step >240 is applying to a community
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of what I wrote in the secondary. In short, she
there. up with them if I haven't heard anything?
reads it, and seems like an incredible PD!
I heard wait til halfway through the first week or at
least second week of November because of the
I was also told to wait and not to do it this early
slow Psych roll out this year in response to last
by advisor
year's competitiveness. Programs are just really
taking their time.
<ive heard arrowhead should be avoided like the

I keep seeing University of Miami/Jackson pop up
plague.
Me. And I applied to 100+ programs, but I am a

DO
honestly they probably flip to their relevant

My MSPE is 9 pages, with my class ranking
section like grades for psych clerkship, grades for
graph on page 9...wondering how a program
IM clerkship (since apparently that's the best
could possibly look at the MSPE for that many
correlate for whether someone will do intern year
applicants--I'm imagining it's only used for
and pass step 3?), class rank, and then scan for
candidates
FWIW i wastheytold already
UCSD ishave
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psychopharm Cornell
any red Med
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heavy. and has many excellent faculty trained in the field
Texas....all Texas so far (Sorry, yes I'm from

Nothing in my region so far. I've gotten mostly
Texas...i meant to say in my experience its been
southeast plus some low tier NE
regional)
Midwest school, California hometown, no aways. from tx. 5 from there and 3 oos but in the
3 Northeast, 2 California, 3 Midwest. south/southeast
Class of '11 :)
mine is uploaded, don't know if it's currently

available (until Oct 1, of course)
<did you ever contact ucsf and figure out if they 10/4: I have since received UC-affiliated IVs
give out ii’s without step 2 CK? without CK scores (high Step 1), fwiw
<<Makes me feel a little better; rec'd suppl. on
Thank you to those that responded! This makes
9/24; hoping for an invite 1-wk later? maybe they
me feel so much better!!!! :)
send out info qWeek?
US grad, got my first rejection from UToledo
(9/24); they seem to prefer high board scoring
IMGs (per their website).
According to NRMP, things start leveling out after

15 maybe
10.
<< in mid October , like we were discussing, let
< when is a good time for this?
me edit that for clarity.
Thalamus should be built into ERAS and all

programs should be required to use it.
<< in mid October , like we were discussing, let

me edit that for clarity.
Do you guys who have gotten intervies at CHA or
<Tufts II: 235/256/honored IM and psych subI
other boston programs mind adding your stats??
Similar stats CK 236, Step 1 219 I got about 13
< fuck, you're killing it. Well done!
interviews so far some money on unnecessary
To save yourself
interview expenses
I's just a form you get when you're invited about

dates/interests. If you're invited for the Boise I did not get a supplemental prior to my II.
track, there's a question about why that track.
RESPONSE RESPONSE
Can't match if you never interview though, which
is what everyone is saying. A super applicant that
would have been comfortable with only going on
<<< If these statements are true then the small pool of
10 interviews in years past might now attend 20
competitve applicants can only PHYSICALLY attain ONE
this year out of fear of not matching. If a not-
spot. And this is where the match process will actually help
insignificant number of applicants do this, it could
the rest of us to MATCH albeit unlikely to help us find our best
mean more people end up SOAPing due to not
fit however.
getting enough interviews (but conversely, that'd
mean more psych programs participating in the
SOAP)
So what if for one program everyone writes you back and for
another no one does?
<Can you also talk about the tier of interviews
20+ interviews, my board scores are mediocore at best, so I you're getting? I realize it doesn't matter in the
think (based on my own opinion of my app and what long run, but I'm curious since I've only gotten
feedback I have received during interviews) it's a mix of my about 14 interviews the majority only from top tier
volunteer experiences (commented on every interview), programs. I've gotten very little love from the
letters (many mentioned them being "stellar"), and research "mid-tier/low tier programs" even though I
(again almost always mentioned). My personal statement would've definitely considered some of them for
was also considered strong and unique by a few. one reason or another (aka i have a lot of family
in that area)
If you're tired, I will take your interviews! :), :'(
<They will almost certainly interview them,

<Not according to their website...
regardless of where they end up matching
Box J, yes stay strong. The coordinator said you
will receive a response either way, thus if you
have not heard a peep then there is still the
distinct possibility you will receive an invite. My
suspicion is the coordinator simply was not
sitting here just waiting. saw someone got an interview on the
factoring in this being T'giving week and that the
16th!
best laid plans...would not be executed as ppl
were dicking off during this week as many are
wont to do. Monday is perhaps your day. Crush
some Black Friday sales and play like a
champion.
<< I second Arizona-Tucson. Seems like a very well-rounded
program. Best interview day so far. If you interview on a <<<THIRD TUCSON wowwwww!!! I hope we all
Saturday, there is a dinner at the associate PD's house. Many match together guys <3
residents and attendings showed up, it was really lovely
8/USMD, I want more but I feel like it might be

11/USMD, not sure if this is good or I should be concerned okay...I feel like I've been interviewing fairly well
but don't want to be overconfident either :/
Can someone discuss the malignancy of GWU? I
have not heard that anywhere.
SECONDED << GWU allegedly has let go of a

psych resident almost every year for the last
several. They made headlines for firing a psych
<<<<Anyone know what makes Loma Linda so toxic? x2!!! resident when she was attending appointments to
treat her kidney cancer diagnosis. (Pamela Wible
and Medscape or one of those things did an
article about the student). The institution was
admittedly tight lipped about what went on behind
closed doors but then their PD stepped down
immediately after, which is an odd sign.
One of my interviewers grilled me about my low step
<Wait how did they grill you? I'm asking more out
score...it’s like if you find it so problematic why did you invite
of curiosity and fear for myself lol
me to interview??
Got it too. Guessing its pretty much a waitlist, but
It is hard to tell if this is true waitlist or soft rejection. I guess if
I figure a waitlist to UCSF is essentially a soft
some people didn't receive it, it must be waitlist. Anyone
rejection because who the heck is gonna drop
actually rejected?
that
d
Yeah, that makes sense. It actually is one of my top if not the
J << technically it's over when ranklists are due,
top so was just wondering. At least i know I was liked and just
but beware the Ides of March!
will hope for the best.
I figure you do the best where you have good life-work

balance, good social support, and a supportive work No.
environment.
Box J, I am too but that is not really the point. all

you have to do is look at the trend from the
<- lucky you invites tab and you can plainly see this year's
trend is very different from what was reported of
last year.
<— absolutely same, I have less than great scores (218/236)
and have caught fish all over the pond...although I did seem
to get very little regional love (med school in the MW and
<<same at OP - got a few reach, didn't get the
majority of interviews are coastal). Only other observations
ones i expected as "safety" and in my region
were my “personalized” personal statements did not seem to
make a huge difference (although who knows what makes a
difference) and LOIs did nothing for me.
Thanks Box J! I'm the OP and yours sounded like

the best way to go about things, I just couldn't
<<----awesome response
think of the right language for it that didn't come
off a little curt. Thanks!
Why don't u take a "sick" day or a half day some

afternoon and hit a brewry or bar and kill it. I truly
feel for you getting boned by the program like
OP: By "this bih" I was referring to the collection of bihs
that but make the best of it at least. My personal
associated with the university. Would so much rather be on
favorite move, and I have legit used this a few
some bs rotation enjoying my fourth year dranking margs on
times, is to have diarrhea whenever I want/need
the beach or somethin
excuse to get out of something. Nobody ever
wants to hear any details and they always just let
it slide.
FWIW, I only set aside 4 real weeks to study for Step 2 and it
ended up being just fine. I think 3 weeks is do-able if you give
it your all!
The lwoest I've seen is 44. A lot of it tries to accomodate for

cost of living
I got rejected from UT San Antone as well ... fuggers.
<<haha no I wish that was my excuse. I just was

so anxious the night before I barely slept and I
<agreed, 13 is great.... (I have 14 and am feeling good about
really couldn't reschedule so I just took it
it)
anyways. In retrospect that was a stupid decision
and I should've found a different date.
<< that's not a love letter, that's a rejection brah. A love letter
is one that comes after the interview and tries to get you to < LOL
come to their program/rank them high
Pledge or die
To the person with 20 who was afraid of
cancelling, you should cancel, dude or dudette.
20 is too many and keeping spots away from
people who need them. And on top of that, the
likelihood of not matching with that many is
ridiculously low, like you'd have to be a complete
transparent jerkwad. So unless you're that, chill
on out and let some go. And if you are that... then
yah, hold on to things<<20 interview person here.
why are you laughing? I have four interviews, and it
I dropped three so far Will drop another 2 over
doesn’t feel funny :(
the next week..probably drop 1 more and do 14.
OP sounds like someone who would write LOI's

to many programs and then tell others not to do it
so they could get a step up on the other
applicants. Write the LOI's people. It landed me
lucky ducks an interview within an hour of sending the email.
besides.... what could it hurt at this point? Just
make sure the LOI's are geninue and you put
some effort into it otherwise yes you might be
shooting yourself in the foot.
I remember reading on SDN about people who

<-- Disagree. It certainly doesn't gain an invite, I think it just called (it was within the last three years) who got
may help you get looked at a little closer if you initially don't some invites out of it but I don't have specific
meet a filter like region (and maybe Step 1 score). Or if links. My friend called this year for a different
they're really skimming the application they don't see how you specialty, just politely asked about the status of
fit their program without you putting it together for them. her application and at least she found out she
was silently rejected
<<box I I'm amazed that you expect top 20 program invites
when you come from an osteopathic school.This is not 1990.
Just like you care about the ranking of the programs, the
programs care about your pedigree too.
<Hang in there!! I understand (have felt the rejection sting at U Wash and Harbor led me to the slaughter as
other programs too) - but there's still time for other great well today. This is the norm now it seems.
programs to extend ii to you! rejections trump invites now.
I don't feel anything when I get rejections. I'd much rather get
a rejection than silence.
Yeah but if you canceled a flight for 2 weks out
and rebooked for one today, you would be paying
OP: Damn, I wish I'd known that. Freaking crooks Delta a significant fare difference with Southwest. $300
extra does not sound awful for a last minute
ticket.
I landed 6 ii this way....some are competitive programs too.

Youve got to pour your heart into them and make them very
tailored to the program and what they offer. I.e. dont simply I sent letters to 2 programs, very tailored to the
tell them what your random interests are...see what the programs, and no response
program excels in then speak to that if you are even remotely
interested in it.
drink if you want, don't drink you don't want. jesus
<< hahaha!!
christ everybody
Ask him to send the emails on your behalf now.
I originally scheduled mine in Sept but my schedule changed Don't wait. Programs send out like 5% of invites
so I had to postpone and there was no early dates left. When in December, so December is most likely too late.
things open up, they get taken too quickly and after a point, I Also if you haven't been sending LOI's then you
decided to just keep my late date as I have time to study for it should start now. Maybe mention in your LOI's
that week that your CS score is going to be reported on Dec
12th as well.
< Just got an invite to the research track (10/29)! I am the
<congrats- I wanted one so badly lol // Good luck!
person who originally asked the question. I was only offered
hopefully there's still some time left.
one set of dates in mid-Nov.
Column I, if you find yourself in the same room as
awwww I love this! thanks everyone, and good luck to all of
others you find intimidating, just remember that
you, I hope everyone gets a match they are truly happy with
you earned your seat there! To the program
and that is a great fit for them
you're on the same bar. Go get em!
thank you and good luck to all!
Have 40+, cancelled 1 today. Might cancel another one if I'm

<< Lol why are you trolling
feeling brave tomorrow. You're welcome.
^^ idiot troll, you need a psych eval.
^^ I don't think they're trolling; they're mocking/satirizing

person in J sharing they have 21 and will drop 1.
<<< Not sure how I feel about this future
^^ Yes this. Look at the applicant info and see how many
psychiatrist using "psych eval" as way to demean
peope with 20+ IIs with only 1 or 2 withdrawn. It's absurd.
someone who made them upset.
I got one today but things have definitely slowed
I've gotten several this week. But I've been getting a down for me this week (was previously getting
consistent amount every week since Sept 15. DO with below one per day or two days). I think there will be
average scores here//By this week, do you mean week more invites though because people will
starting OCt 29? inevitably start cancelling probably around this
time. I plan on cancelling two today or tomorrow
<< Did you send them to PD's directly or program
<< That's ridiculous though. first of all people shouldn't be
coordinators? I can imagine getting annoyed as a
sending more than ~5 LOI's max unless they have almost no
PD with a constant email barrage and wanting
interviews. and it's ridiculous to expect from us.
stuff to go through the program coordinator filter
<215 so nothing to write to anyone about lol H-11: Yeah

bro/gal I'd just silently update your USMLE transcript.
I did my due diligence. I filled out my 1 home
<more like x10, looking at how many people are listed on the institution invite the SAME DAY and now have
Applicant Info tab vs how many psych applicants there are been crying in a corner ever since seeing
everyone else get interviews...
They have lunch with the residents included in the interview
day schedule.
UCSD, UMass Wash U/Barnes, cleveland clinic

<LOL a rejection hasn't stopped me from sending a LOI <<< did it work?
Def my experience as well within 10 seconds of getting the
Probably someone who works at Thalamus
email, its gone
<It divides it. Psych has less fewer IMGs and about 100 more
AMGs this year. Overall net loss of applicants vs. last year.
CS is the educational fleecing of American

medical students; originally meant to be the
medical equivalency of TOEFL, now it's just a
<<< wtf? money grab. If you're a U.S. born student
(MD/DO/IMG) and don't pass, it is nerves and
only nerves (or you totally didn't prepare, like, AT
ALL) ... and if I was a PD, i wouldn't GAF.
I dont think the interview invites have been slow, i

<Honestly what percent do we estimate still needs to go out? think they are gone and we have an applicant
I'm a little weary seeing all the places that are now going to pool that has tripled over the last 2 years.
their waitlist..It just looks like it's super quiet today on contacted 3 programs i had not heard from this
interview offers which is scary... weekend who all said they are done giving out
applications for the year
I heard it too during one of my interviews in CA. It seems like
you could moonlight only during PGY-4. There might be some <<The money quote: "Accordingly, a holder of a
possiblity of having the attending sing off on your work and PTL may moonlight with written authorization
split the fee or something like that, but I think this hasn't been from the program director."
worked out yet?
want to add in psychiatry there is a unique skill
set that makes a person excellent, and this skill
does not always correlate with the medicine
Here is an episode of a podcast that touches on "imposter
numbers game including board scores and the
syndrome" among medical students/residents and is probably
types of grades and scores that correlated with
good place to start in terms of thinking about your own mental
an ivy or top medical school admission. if you are
health and better ways to cope:
great navigating complex interpersonal situations,
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/psychiatry-
are hard working, read and study hard, work well
psychotherapy-podcast/id1335892956?mt=2
on a team, care about your patients... some of
those things are what will make you an incredible
co-resident in psychiatry
<< Thanks guys, that's super helpful! So at least there isn't a

us waiting now is why patients wait later, the
hard no dates left :P Couples matching with my bf who's
yinyang of the universe
interviewing at on the West Coast and dying from the waiting
Sitting on only 2 ii's. Sent a few LOIs. Any other avenues you << same. Hoping for one more at my away
creative folks out there would try?: rotation coming up.
Plan B ... become a program coordinator and invite/rank

myself
Dallas is the most metropolitan feeling city in TX? What
planet are you on?
"One humongous suburb that never ends" describes Dallas

much better than it does Houston. DFW Metroplex area has a
larger population than the Houston area does too.
inpatient IM is easy medically, but challenging
For the non-Texans, Houston and Dallas have a rivalry. Dallas
mentally
loves to look down on Houston. Houstonians think that
people from Dallas are full of it.
Dallas is fine and UTSW Psychiatry sounds like a gem of a

program.
Plz send me an invite, UTSW
<----Doesn't have to be attending. Residents, nurses, support " Excellent student, educates 3rd years, works
staff and etc can stop you well with the team."---- Grade: Pass
<<No! Interview slots are precious: they wouldn't offer it to
you unless they could legit see you at their program. Now that
you have an invite, you (hypothetically, per program director
surveys) have just as good a shot!
I know the Mass (state law) requires people to pass CS by

ranking, but otherwise have heard that typically people are
okay to match
<<< I'm applying ortho as backup. <<< optho is my backup
BI psych is definitely not closing! I interviewed there and they

are rebuilding a smaller hospital, but the behavioral health is
being moved to BI and expanding (increased residents to 13
instead of 12). All the residents seemed very happy with their
choice and said they would choose it again.
I am one of those people with a growing
resentment re: my peers choosing Psychiatry for
financial and lifestyle reasons. I do think that
those two should factor into a decision, but they
should not be the driver of the decision. We need
people who are passionate about mental health,
lol, I had the opposite problem, my family thought
not Millenials looking for a cush job and a
Psychiatrists made zero dollars and I would be a pauper
paycheck.
forever
That aside, I have had preceptors tell me that
going into Psychiatry is a waste of my ___ (fill in
the blank), which is very upsetting. Hopefully we
can all be on the forefront of changing the
Very possible that people in your class and on
attitudes of our peers re: our field.
this spreadsheet lie about the number of
grrrr California. also the south should not be hard to break interviews they have. Honestly, I don't see a point
into! they probably just need to know you'll move there? in worrying. As long as you have a couple where
you'd be happy at and express your interest to
them, that's really all you can do
I heard about an app on google that can let you

know if something there are any changes on a
Re: person with the 220.
website. I'm not sure what it's called but he said
I scored even lower than you did and i'm sitting on
he used it to secure an earlier date for CS (i.e.
multiple interviews because I improved on step 2 CK and had
set the app to the scheduling website for CS and
good letters and essays etc. This process is sill reasonably
got a notification when there was an earlier date
holistic! THERE'S HOPE YET!
that opened). not sure if this will be helpful in your
case but figured i'd let you know
Planning to cancel some as well in the next week

I just had an interview taken away. I'm doing a sub-i at a
<<<I’m doing a sub-I at a program I applied to
place, and they told verbally I would get one. Then today,
soon...I’m hoping they offer an interview but I fear
they tell me they won't be interviewing me. Now I have to
the same may happen to me >_<
awkwardly keep working here for 3 more weeks. :-\
< hard to do when I'm not sure what a "safety"

Apply smart
program is
so basically they look at USMLE Step 1/Comlex, MSPE and
PS. Nice!
WashU will pretty much only considers people who has <Have zero connections to Wash'U that they would
connection to WashU somehow. If that key word is not in your have known of (other than going to medical school
app then you are pretty much out no matter how good your in the Midwest), but yes, the entire process is
scores are. ridicuolus.
I am also worried I'm not as competitive. My first
choice is a solid Mid-Tier program, and I haven't
heard from them even though they have given
I only have one really good one and I'm really concerned. It
out 10+ interviews already. Granted my Step 1 is
seems like other peopel are getting plenty!
below average but I didn't think a Mid-tier would
be out of reach for me. My PD specifically said I'd
be fine with my rank list....
<<Thank you. I just took the exam 4 weeks later and passed.
Kind of hard to explain how, but yeah, my med graduation
< you didn't say you retook it then passed lol.
wasn't extended. My PD didn't care about it b/c I had
you're fine, fam. your PD cleared you so you're
indicated interest in the field and hadn't extended, but he isn't
good. Extended grad is a bigger red flag, I think
sure how other schools will look at it. It isn't that comon of an
issue.
I got it. 100 words crazy short for the question
< needs lots of prep
asked!
Huh--on waitlist too, but no request for additional information. < I'm guessing being asked for more info is better
From AZ. than not.
I figure thats the case, just being neurotic i suppose. This Just got confirmation from them that they do
whole process is slowly killing me! >>THANK YOU! accept comlex scores
accepted). Adding to this, I was at the IPS mental health
service conference this past weekend. There were several
talks on LGBT issues, and one in particular stood out. One
physician described how it wasn't her lesbian identity that
alienated her during her psychiatry residency, but rather
being a "butch" female that caused so much difficulty for her.
She described a moment in residency (at a respected
program in the south) when one of her co-residents in
psychiatry poked fun at her appearance during didactics. She
used the story to make the point how we need to stand up for
Really, really appreciate these comments. Gay
each other, in these moments. For me, I realize after listening
female applicant here who has been thinking the
to this, that as a gay, white male who might be able to pass
same question
as straight, it is relatively easy to be open about my sexual
identity. For individuals with more fluid appearances, I think
sadly in certain places, they are going to face more
challenges than I will. This is all to say, let's stand up for each
other, in residency and beyond, and also recognize that the
idea of being out is more complicated depending on each
person's set of circumstances. You can access the LGBT
presentations from the IPS conference by downloading APA
Meeting app. The powerpoints for many of the presentations
are included with each session within the app. The
transgender health session was on Saturday, Oct. 6 from 1-
4pm, and the powerpoint is included within the app for those
interested.
I am getting anxious too! I have 3 invites from
September, 1 from home institution. and none yet
Thank you!
this week. looking at spreadsheet sure doesn't
help haha
Got an early invite from them, no connection to the state but

I'm from CA so I guess somewhat "close"? Definitely going to
< truth.
the <<<hey now, this is psychiatry, which means we're
interview.
all just a bit neurotic.
DO west coast, 12 interviews all over...mostly east coast, 1

west coast.
<<<<< Cheer up! I just heard from a program 1p ET
Yeah Guessing that's actually total number of programs Nope 50 interview offers, she’s scheduling about
applied to. half. *Sigh*
<if it's your patient on internal months or

something, you can just say a quick spiel about
<-- right?! So many wtf responses. No idea how to respond to how it's real and you've seen people with horrible
these things psych conditions - they respect healthcare
professionals opinions and you can do just that
bit to decrease the stigma and misconceptions
Went to a dinner tonight. It was business casual all around.
< a person doing another field sent a love letter
< Person in row J, I'd send them a letter now and is doing a sub-i in 1 month. got a same day
i just wrote my first love letter ... anyone have a boombox for response inviting them to an interview
< I've gotten ii from loi's
me to hold above my head? <3<3 LOL
I'm team E-Rass I've been saying Ear-ass ...

Also I feel like they’ve really just started sending
Good to know. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Thanks stranger. out interviews since there were none for a while
so definitely still hope
Have they filled up yet?
<< thank you, stranger <<agree, excellent way to stratify invites
I'd write more than 3 lines. I think 2 concise paragraphs is

good. I talk about reasons for liking program in first, and
geography, etc. in second.
<< I received an invite on 10/3 and submitted my
supplemental right after receiving it (so 9/17?). I think the PD
<< Same thing just happened to me today (10/9).
is individually going through every application because she
Personalized invitation, which was the first I'd
makes comments about your application in the interview
ever seen :)
invitation, which probably takes a while!, so I’d follow up next
week not sure what to make of this letter of interest. I
heard one "top" program already gave out all
i agree, sending out "love letters" in October comes off as
their interview invites for the season (reliable
really desperate considering the slow burn in Psychiatry. It's
source). that's only one program out of many but
only been 10 days since MSPE's have been sent. Be patient.
a letter of intererst when there are no interview
slots left is a moo point
Baylor not malignant at all. Really lovely down to earth I'm a Baylor med student and have had a good
residents! Malignant programs that come to mind include experience here with respect to the psych
Duke, Miami, Hopkins and Colorado. program.
< all in my region, though I only applied to 3 outside of my

region (3/20)
<thank you!! hopefully i'll get a normie interview:) Normie here. Got interview before mspe; OOS
i agree, NRMP states that the median # of interview invites

for matched applicants is 10. << applied to ~30 programs, very broadly. I have
<I'm honesty not sure what to cosnider a "safety" anymore... competitive stats. Only getting invites from top
because my safeties are not giving me offers, but my reaches 10-20 programs. No love from lower tier schools.
are.... First world problems, I know. But it's scarier to try
to match the tip top competitive programs.
CHA invite here. Step 1: 210-220, Step 2: 230-240. No

honors. No other beantown programs yet though. Used to
work in boston.
RESPONSE RESPONSE
Super applicants in the past were comfortable with
only a handful of interviewws.
Even my friends who graduated in 2017 were going on

and on about how they applied to too many places
when they were couples matching and applied to 18
<-- interesting. i think it depends on the couples'
programs. They interviewed at 8 programs and said
specialties... i've heard ppl interview at way more
that was too many. They couples matched #2 or #3 on
and say to do as many as you can...
their RoL. They were not "super applicants" either.
Problem with SOAP is that many of us didn't get

interviews from places we want to be. If I match I'm not
eligible for SOAP even though the program close to
home that has unfilled spots is a better fit.
< Box M, your academic profile looks good and I
honestly doubt you have anything to worry about,
<-- this thread definitely makes me nervous. I was but out of curiosity, what “tier” of interviews have
offered 18 interviews, but due to scheduling issues you been getting? And what kind of medical
and some i wasn't excited about, I am only going to 14 school do you go to? I go to a Midwestern school,
interviews. All at larger, urban academic centers. mid tier. As for "tier" of interviews, 7 of them are
Board scores are good (260), and honored 7/8 ranked in the 20's-30's, a few in the 30's-40's and
rotations and am AOA. Did i make a big mistake in not the rest are ranked lower than that. I didn't focus
accepting all these interviews?? alot on rank and more on cities and happened to
not apply to any of the top 20 schools. About 1/2
are in southeast region, 1/2 in Midwest.
<Damn I'm such an underdog compared to them...
Kaiser San Jose was so warm and was a great
experience to interview... I bet the first crew here
will be really well mentored by current faculty and
Utah: GREAT!
I think the emphasis on resident wellness was
pretty significant. Will be excited for whomever is
on their match list!
20+ USMD, planning on ~15 (was hoping to go to

fewer but interviews so far have had some <<----I don't like it when folks break deals either
dealbreakers :/ )
Loma Linda is not toxic. I'm a student at LLU. The
workload is a bit more than average, but they come
out knowing their shit. They have one of the largest
CAP in socal. The faculty and residents are like
family...seriously. Its super tight. I've spoken to many
psych residents about the suicide. They said that << That was very helpful without disclosing an
stressor was much more attributed to intrafamilial inappopriately large amount. Thanks! x2!!
conflict. I think it would be inappropriate to disclose
more. But I've been having a critical eye on the psych
residents here to evaluate whether I really want to
stay...and I can say that I would be extremely happy
here. Hope that helps
Answer: Because there's more to me than just
my step 1 score.
<— “How do you explain being a SD below the
mean? Why should we chose you over a higher
scorer?” Also, what program was this? I would not want to
go to a program that places so much emphasis
on just one score
COL in SF is a huge barrier...like $60K a year is an
effective $30K with no social benefits
<I: interesting, I keep hearing people say this, but I feel
like I've been getting a pretty specific vibe at each
school that is different from the others...
<agree with box H. While I realize getting 14 interviews

is a good position to be in, I am definitely not
cancelling any interviews (even for the few programs I
<Yeah do you know how many emails have said
am less excited about because I count one program
something along the lines of "o we had an
as noncontributory since it is my host) because my
increased amount of applications this year and
biggest fear is just not matching. And I would rather be
didn't expect this..."
at a program I am less excited about than have to go
through this application process all over again. It is a
match frenzy and it is insane
yep but with my stats i didn't think I was that
competitive so I've suprised by most of the IV I've
received lol... although my scores were in the mid
240+ step 1/2, have not been told i have good
220s and low 230s for step 1/2 and in an interview the
scores and have not been getting interviews
PD said you have "good" scores and I was thinking
"huh" lol so I guess our perception of what's good and
what is lower than avg isn't necessarily right
Or you know, make lemonade out of lemons and

< That was rude of the PD to say there were no learn during the rotation.
interview spots left. The PD still won't meet with you
while you're there? //agree. I always say: when god gives you AIDS,
make lemonaids.
My 2 cents (FWIW) => 0 interviews is horrible, 1-3
This story is very odd, I don't want to say
interviews is uncomfortable, 4-7 is okay, 8-10 is
apocryphal but unusual to say the least. No CK
comfortable, 11-14 you need to calm down, and if you
but 13 II, then passing out during exam?
have 15+ ii's...you need to STFU and have a drink lol
3 interviews here as well. It suckssssss. http://image-cdn.neatoshop.com/styleimg/43888/none/black/default/29
<< OP here, that's my exact sentiment
<<<When you get a silent rejection over the phone, do

they say anything, or just put the reciever down and LOL
wait for you to get the hint and hang up?
the dream is over. I'm just happy U Wash sent it out so i was just about to send them a 'love letter' before
I didn't have to be in a Schrödinger's box. i got their 'dear john' :(
<< I’ve received 6 ii’s at top programs by sending
tailored LOI’s. However, it’s important to note one
thing: it’s not the LOI itself that guarantees an
< Thanks for the FYI you didn't mention the first
interview invite. All the LOI guarantees is that the PD
time, M. Basically, pour your heart out + have
will take a much closer look at your application (as
excellent board scores, lots of leadership
opposed to simply skimming it, which PDs do for the
experience, be within 2nd quartile of class. Got it
majority of applicants). Ultimately, you will not receive
an interview invite unless the PD determines that your
CV/stats are on par for the program.
December is the collecting tubes of interview season.
Box I, can you share the range of your Step 1?
<5% of invites go out, just like <5% of sodium is
Just curious
reabsorbed XD
<have any of your rotated in the CNRU? // not me
<-----this! Well said!
<< bahahaha
<<< +1. Person in K: might consider starting to

represent your future field with professionalism now.
I got an ii today and there were 3 jan dates open so I
think we can still expect some for sure in addition to
people cancelling
<are we seriously supposed to be sending that
many LOI's? Like is it bad if we haven't and are
<ctrl f for many discussions regarding that on this
just waiiting? This is so stupid because it no
thread
longer feels like this is based on merit but more
based on how much we can ass kiss
In response to Box K, I think people are more likely to
record their invites than fill out the applicant info. I
<-- Same fam
know I'm recording my invites but didn't put myself out
there with scores
<<I wish if we were on an internal waitlist or even
a maybe column, they would email us to let us
<<remains to be seen know. It's just so frustrating when there's no
communication like c'mon...we're applying into
psychiatry!
I know in past cycles some schools have encouraged
applicants for the same specialty to coordinate waitlist
movement with other internal applicants.
I sincerely hope it's not a bot. I missed another this

afternoon where I was there in <10 s and it was gone.
That one was for next week though so it was a little
surprising. Hope someone local got it
Fucking hunger games.

< Completely agree, I hope our generation of leaders
eliminates it as a requirement for licensure for USMGs.
Sign the Harvard petition if you haven't:
http://endstep2cs.com/petition/
< are they still offering waitlists? I emailed two

prgorams I really like today and was put on
< well that's reassuring....
waitlists for both. Wondering how often these
lists move...
The major change is that you are not eligible to
practice medicine after 1 year of residency like
you can in some states and apparently used to
be able to do in California.
So basically nothing has changed? If a PD wants to let Looks like you can still moonlight without issue
you moonlight, its business as usual? with program appoval/assistance, and if worse
came to worse I'm sure the program would pick
up contracts and offer "internal" moonlighting
under the guise of training. How else are the
places who currently rely on residents
moonlighting going to be able to staff.
<< LOL, that's funny, but the Column L answer is
<<< I read so hard. spot-on. we just hope that programs actually
interview and rank based on this philosophy.
DEF NOT!! keep that hope alive! I am getting more
interviews now than last week actually. It just takes << wow congrats, i can only dream of getting two
one day of getting 2+ invites to change everything. It IIs in one day. only have three total.. including my
might not feel like much being in the 4th or 5th batch home institution :/
of invite send outs but you deserve it just as much :)
They freaking gave me honors and raved about me in
my eval. I dont get it.
Class here has like 40. It's really boomed. I feel
Yeah, we have like 11 people which is more than last
like a lot of people made the switch 3rd year
year's. :O
when they realized regular medicine sucks
<<< I mean, I hear what you are saying, but we
< doing anything solely for money/lifestyle is a terrible
wouldn't have as many options for good hitmen if
decision no matter what. They will be miserable and
nobody made decisions based solely on
have to live with that decision
money/lifestyle.
I don't know why lying is a thing, but can confirm.

Found an excel sheet left open on a library computer
from someone who said they had interviews from Yale <uhh yeah, it does lol
and Harvard. On the excel sheet, he had rejected (Harvard has 4 associated programs)
written on those rows. Does Harvard even have a
Psych program?
there probably is one for chrome but i ended up using

one with firefox called check4change. very easy to use
and I got the date I wanted!
< thank youu

oh no! hang in there and keep your chin up! show <<< bro I'd leave, why waste your time? - i'm only
them what they are going to be missing out on! staying to finish getting an eval for graduation
<<hugs>> thanks requirements really
<< WashU is in Missouri, not Washington state.
And I thought I was rejected because of my less
There's UW and WashU, 2 completely different
than stellar step 1...
institutions. UW is in Washington.
<<haha, sorry, should have made that clear. Hopefully,
other schools will have the same attitude. Either way,
what's done is done. It's probably best to just wait and
see
I didn't get one so you guys should probably fill it out I didn't want to fill it out... am I a bad person?
< really? i feel like being asked to provide more info

would be indicative of the program being more hesitant
<< agree! But who knows.... but good luck to
about you. i feel like i'd rather be just placed on a
everyone who is waiting !
waitlist rather than being told "tell us why you think you
should be on our waitlist"
I am a guy and I intentionally refer to my female
spouse as my "partner" because 1) the word
>>This is super interesting. As a gay male with a "wife" comes from the old english "wiif" which
fiance, I try to point out his gender by saying means "woman" and I feel pretty uncomfortable
something like "when I proposed to my boyfriend..." I calling her "my woman" because, you know,
do this because I have had several instances in the she's not my property (oops...guess I just outed
past couple of months where a physician will ask me myself as not Bret Kavanaugh), 2) because I
what my "wife" does after learning I am engaged. To don't think anyone should be forced to reveal
avoid the awkwardness of having to correct a superior their sexuality just by referring to their loved
about the gender of my spouse, I intentionally qualify ones, and 3) I like to see people's expressions as
any statement about my relationship with a pronoun. they are trying to figure out whether I am gay. I
too do not want to end up somewhere that is not
accepting of everyone.
<in the same boat I don’t understand this process at all
< thanks guys!
<minus the 0 off of 50 and that's how many I have :/
<< Literally had these jokes at least 5 times

yesterday when I saw a bunch of people at my
< I love this idea and will definitely be doing this
college homecoming football game. <-- Why do
people think it's okay?
It's EEEE-Ross with the "EEEE" held for ~1.5
lol!
seconds; says so on the website.
As of 10/26, no interviews left, only waitlist.
<<< I did the tables to the left, but I don't know

<<< Thanks for doing this! Is there a way to add this to how write a formula that automatically groups
the applicant metrics tab so it can be updated in real values so that all of the people with Step 1 scores
time? 201-210, for instance, end up in that particular
tranche.
there's a lot of gossip within TX med schools about
Baylor going downhill vs UTSW and UTA... however
med students just love to gossip and throw shade
everywhere in general so not sure how much credence << can anyone comment on Emory
(also much of that gossip was not from Baylor
students/residents themselves, so take that as you
will)
Got a UW interview 9/28 normal track.
<I'm in the same boat. Haven't gotten many invites,

but the ones I have gotten are all from the top
programs. I know I shouldnt't complain but I am
worried about where I'll be ranked for these top
programs since I can only imagine how stiff the
competition is.
RESPONSE RESPONSE
N: That example in Box M was dual psych
couple. Obviously if you're doing something like
RadOnc and Derm (true story) then you need to
do more places. Interestingly enough the dual
psych couple matched in a city where there is
< "A super applicant that would have been comfortable with
only one psych program I don't even think they
only going on 10 interviews...." ...I'm a super applicant, y'all
targeted the typical big cities that have multiple
residency programs.
Shows you how much psych has changed in the

past couple of years.
< Box O, Both quality and quantity matter. While
Just having 20+ interviews is good, but for those who have 20+ interviews is probably overkill, It is important
fewer interviews to all the best programs, that’s probably to ensure that you have received enough
better, right?! It’s not just about quantity of interviews. In interview invites to be confident in your chances
addition, even if you have a few interviews but there is an of matching (which I’m sure you have). I totally
awesome program that is a perfect fit for you and you love the agree with you that the most important thing is
people, and you match there, that’s truly all that matters! finding a program that is a perfect fit for you so
that ultimately, you will thrive and be happy :)
Do you tucson people have connections to AZ?
< New Hampshire-Dartmouth. Really beautiful place with
Go to med school in AZ and still havent heard
awesome support for psychiatry (psych nurse + psych NP +
from them :( << I didn't have connections to AZ.
legit therapist + SWs) Leaves all the interesting and medical
But someone from my school matched there two
work (not paperwork) to the docs.
years ago, not sure if that matters.
Subpar DO applicant (210ish) who changed to psych last

second (IM is too hellish) with 18+ interviews. I'm absolutely
suprised with the amount of positive response I've gotten even
USIMG, 5 interviews... feel good until I see others
from some of the higher tier academic programs.
on here with twice as much or more who are
worried.
Though I guess I should cancel some of these interviews, I'm
very reluctant to due to my low boards and DO status.
I hadn't heard that Baystate is problematic, does anyone know
LSU Shreveport also is problematic
why?
Yeah don’t really care what they wanted. I mean I
did a lot better on Step 2 and they could have
Probably just wanted to see how they responded. Did they get
phrased the question in a way that did not make
defensive? Did they ackowledge that perhaps they struggle
me feel bad about myself. This was my 5th
with standardized tests? Did they learn anything from the
interview and only one where I actually felt bad
experience? Ideas to improve test taking in the future?
with a “tough” question. No need for me to rank
them highly.
It takes time for people to become comfortable with dropping
I have 20 and am not dropping a single one. No
interviews. It's scay thing to do because it's irreversible, but it's
way
going to happen.
<like no interviews at all? Or just less than you expect?
OP: PD is willing to meet with me, but pretty much 0% chance

I'll be offered an interview since she already stated there are
no more spots left.. `
<-- let me be very clear, i didn't pass out! I just dozed off for
like a minute or so. I was tired and i think everybody would
agree step 2 CK is very long and by the end of the exam
(when i dozed off) most people would say they were tired. And
why is it weird that I got 13 ii without CK? My advisors said I <<---- sounds like u should ask your advisors
would be fine without it and frankly about 70% of my invites again
have been from well known programs (e.g. Mass general,
Columbia, etc). So my advisors were not wrong...I'm just
worried how my poor step 2 CK will affect my ranking (or
getting ranked at all)
<< To the 20 person again, right on man, you're doing the
right thing. Be confident in yourself and approach all
things with the awareness that you are who they are <-- ditto
looking for, you've earned your spot, and you've done
your due diligence in making it this far and will be a great
psychiatrist one day. Nothing but good wishes going
your way
i too got my harbor/UW rejections and just lol'd
<< I am the person in box M and I would like to correct a few
assumptions you made. First of all, I am NOT the person in
Box K who received 6 invites; I am a totally different person.
Secondly, while I do believe I am academically solid (I
averaged a 235 on both Step exams), I am actually in the third
quartile of my class. I think the key to my success so far has
been 2 things: 1) I do have strong extracurriculars (that
<<----- well that is superb
assumption was correct) and 2) my school has EXCELLENT
psychiatry mentors who have been a tremendous help to my
class throughout this application process. There are 20 people
in my class applying to psychiatry and every single person is
doing amazingly so far in the interview season, which is a
testament to both our hard work and the wonderful guidance
we are receiving from our mentors.
^^^ I think just means your school does a good job pimping
you guys out and not that your classmates are actually doing
excellently. This seems more like a victory for your school
having more of an allocation of resources than others rather
than having stronger applicants.
<< yes if you've been following this spreadsheet
<< I'm not Box I, but I also only had Step 1 available when and assume it's even remotely a representative
apps went out Sept. 15. My Step 1 is 250+ and I got lots of sample, it's obvious that if you're in the top tier of
interviews without Step 2. step 1 scorers, Step 2 (CK/CS) not being in
doesn't matter one iota (for interview invites)
Hey Box J, what's your secret? I sent 6 LOIs and
got nothing! It was a mix of short and sweet and
a little more elaborate. Two places I had ties with.
<--- uhhh where you been bro. Did 3rd year fail to teach you
Four should be within my competitiveness range,
that? +1
based on other invites I got. Writing these is
really tiring... Has anyone had any luck with
making phone calls to the program coordinators?
<< why is everyone freaking out?? 18% of invites
go out in Nov and something like 10% in dec. As
< For some programs I would suppose. But then again, that
people start cancelling interviews, some invites
does reinforce the idea that invites are nearly done.
might trickle out. Y'all need to chill. IDK how you
Depending on the program, I expect they move a bunch.
expect to reassure anyone with objective data
when you can't even reassure yourselves.
<<< thanks block M! i have been getting super discouraged <<block N, I feel ya. Sitting at 2 ii right now. Only
over here. thanks for keeping the positivity folks! we're all in hoping that it's taking a longer time to send out
this together!!! invites...applied to 62 places...
< this means your Psych program has great residents and We have double that of last year. The pool is
attendings! Take pride! getting hefty y'all
<<< the counter-argument being that you will
I really don't think it bloody matters why you do it as long as
inherently do a worse job when you are in it for
you do it right and do right by your patients.
the money/lifestyle.
<<< I'm going to be so pissed if I end up in a

I feel you. I have classmates who aren't interested in psych but residency class with people who are not actually
switched and applied at the last second because of "lifestyle," passionate about psych. The people in psych are
"better hours," and "it's easy." I'm not the best boards-based one of the main reasons I am going into it. I hope
candidate, I was in labor during my USMLE so I didn't finish, so much that the folks you are describing are
just have COMLEX, but I have a million other things going for obvious to PDs in interviews and weeded out.
me, and I'm dying waiting on more ii's, meanwhile they have
11+ by applying on a whim, and even better candidates have And they better hope they don't end up in a
less? It makes no sense and it sucks. residency with me because I will be calling their
shit out if they suck.
<<< L11, I'm sorry, but I think it's a blessing in disguise. You'll
match in a program that is happy to have you. That program
probably has miserable residents and fellows. Best of luck with
the rest of the year! You'll be a great Psychiatrist in a great
program.
<---- For some people this may be
possible/desireable but not others. If someone
asks me why I want to go to a particular program
This is really aggressive way to look at the interview process. part of my response will be about my partner's
The program is interviewing you and your personality. I don't ability to find work in the area and good schools
see how having a boyfriend, wife, husband, girlfriend or cat for our kids. I do not see me getting out of any
should be relevant or brought up. If it's small talk, I think it's interviews without something like this coming up.
fine. Otherwise, I don't see why you would intentionally bring it And this goes double for dinners with the
up. My view is that my personal life and career life should be residents where I believe they will mostly just be
totally separate. trying to get to know you as a person. I
personally would not want to work someplace
where everyone was completely closed about
their personal life; it would be extremely strange.
<it's all fun and games til they get a mental illness or someone
close to them does
<Funniest thread yet
RESPONSE RESPONSE
Given most residencies interview ~10 applicants per
spot, applicants with >10 interviews will contribute to
increased SOAPing.
< Box M/N, Thanks for providing the extra info.
Honestly, I think you will be totally fine! Don’t let folks
on this thread scare you (it can get pretty intimidating
sometimes, lol). I’m actually in a pretty similar boat
as you and will only be attending about 14 interviews
as well, which – based on last year’s charting
20+’er - my II have been all over the place (2 top
outcomes—is more than enough ranks to match.
5, 3 top 20, several more top 40, several more
Multiple friends ahead of me who have matched to
lower than that or new/unranked.) No rhyme or
psych last year did 8-14 interviews max. They told
reason!!
me that that once you’ve passed the initial filter and
received an interview invite, what matters most is
how you perform on the interview (ie. Relax, be
yourself, understand the mission/culture of the school
you’ve interviewing at, etc.). I think we’ll both be okay
< co-sign this.
2nd UNM & Utah. +Vermont (heart eyes). Indiana UT Austin was super cool! It was my first time in
wins for hospitality. TX and I loved it!
< 7/USMD at a solid mid tier school, overall

USMD, 14 interviews. Feel okay overall but didn't below avg applicant. I have my heart set on 1
get ii from most of my favorite programs. Will program at which I have an interview. I don't want
probably cancel 2-3 due to scheduling/flying issues more interviews but for %success rate for
matching, I reckon I need 2 more.... :/
<why do you say that < their PD and program has
some very problematic questions as well as
<<----tell us about the racism plz
underlying racism tones to certain applicants. No
thank you
But why even feel bad? You had a bad day for
whatever reason and did better the next time around.
One interviewer shouldn't sour you to the program,
you may never even interact with that person. But I
agree at this point with no use in ranking them highly;
from your response here, I think you may have given
the interviewer the information they were looking for
(i.e. how someone handles personal failure).
Ok, so you're getting invites from MGH, Columbia
and the like without a CK score? You probably go
<— yeah I am. I def screwed myself over. to an awesome school and have a good step 1
score which would suggest you're a good test
taker. I wouldn't worry so much, you'll be fine
Î'm OP. Thank you for being so supportive. I
ended up doing fine despite falling asleep (not
passing out!). I got in the mid 250s which is
slightly higher than my Step 1 so I just
transmitted it to the schools
way to go!! you corrected an assumption while
<<----++++ it was super classy
making the rest of us feel terrible
Got several great interviews w/ no LOI, never
<SAme Box J can we see a sample of your LOI's? I
heard back from the couple of programs I wrote
need your LOI skills for sure
to
<< I think people are worried that last year’s stats of <<<if lasts years stats apply and you have 4
when interviews went out won‘t apply this year interviews, that means you should only expect
about 1 more which isn't helpful.
i wouldn't want a psychiatrist who went into it for
those reasons
<<< OMG whoever you are, I wish we could

somehow meet or chat. I love what you wrote,
and you took the words right out of my mouth.
Keep up the fight! -DO student from the deep
south.
You sound like someone who I would like; mostly

because you agree with me ;).
RESPONSE RESPONSE
20+ interviews, on the lower end of step scores,
from a state school. I attribute the invites to a
bunch of research before/during medical school
and other interesting work experiences that are
different from other applicants that tied well into
Of the 20+ interviews I've gotten I'd say about 2/3
why psychiatry in the personal statement. I think
are community programs while the other 1/3 are
psychiatry values non-traditional applicants with
from academic programs. I have no idea about
life experiences before medical school. Not sure
rank and its not something I care much about.
how they value these things in terms of the
ranking, but feel pretty sure this is why I am
getting interviews. Also dropping interviews this
week so that I will not be going to 20+ interviews
and that others may use them!
0
I have 20 something interviews as a low tier DO

with average board scores. I've been very lucky. I
just cancelled two this weekend (11/17) so
hopefully some of you lovely people can scoop
up some interviews.
<<I'm in a simlar boat. Just cancelled two interv

If everything else goes well, I'd not worry too
much. When you transmit the score you might
want to shoot the program a quick message
explaining what happened. I think you might still
end up with a decent score. I'm pretty sure for
mine had I took a 10 mins naps and end up
choosing 10 question randomly it won't change
the result all that much since the questions were
so ambiguous
^See my post in R. Thanks for being so <-I'm so happy for ya! 250s is a perfect score. I'm
supportive i appreicate it. box S27
<< exactly and I love how my comments have
been deleted several times on this thread. I’m an
otherwise very strong applicant (will refrain from
Every psych applicant at my school is doing
details) with only low step 1 and that score has
poorly. Great mentorship would have been great.
held me back sadly, LOIs have not helped at
Questioning everything at this point
some programs I’m very interested in. And by
“low” Step I mean below average, not a failure or
close to that
<<<------Same Also same
yo Q - why would things chance so drastically
from year to year? [Q here--no reason to think I think we all need to see a psychiatrist. This
that, just a fear, maybe irrational! invites seem spreadsheet would be a good place to recruit
to be filling up fast but maybe it felt the same potential clients ;)
for people last year!]
RESPONSE RESPONSE
<-- thank you for dropping interviews that you are
not planning to attend! we appreciate it!
< thank you for cancelling!
the emotional effort that goes into them is what
I'm 1 for 5 on LOIs. I guess that isn't bad. But
really causes me to feel dejected about sending
writing them sucks. I probably spent at least an
them since I have gotten nothing out of them
hour plus staring at them and worrying about
personally. If i were the guy that had 6 invites
each of them before I sent them to ensure there
post LOI then I'm sure I'd be salivating at the
was no typo's.
opportunity to write them.
Box J here...I use a pretty standard formula
of listing things the program excels in and tie
them into my own history/interests. I make a
vvvv
pointbox j+u tell
to not fromthem
below, u seem
what I amlike a nice in
interested
person. i'm glad u got positive responses
unless it aligns with the programs strength. to ur I
awesome LOIs<<<<thanks dude. I like to think
also make a point to tie in local geographic
I'm a pretty decent guy. Actually just got another
ties,
inviteheavily.
due to aILOIputthis
my morning.
heart outIm there and
getting
don't shy away
shocked myself. from using words like love,
amazing, etc. I also probably write more than
most, usually three solid paragraphs. I do
think I have inherent ability to write
persuasively and convincingly...I was once a
law student. In response to box Q...if you
want to leave an email Id be happy to share
with you..I'm hesitant to share a letter I've
sent on this excel. One, I'd like some
anonymity, and two, my letters are pretty
fucking dank. I feel like other people who put
a lot of effort into writing letters are going to <<<< box j & u. Thanks for offering to share
be put out if everyone starts using what I've your letter. Would you be able to email me at
written. But, I'm happy to share with people pujam3@hotmail.com? Thank you and good
privately. luck!
If you have a date that falls within weeks 1-7,
Interview Invites Supplem write it in the Week 8 column I will move it.
State Program ental? How Scheduled? Total
Alabama U Alabama ERAS 9
U South Alabama ERAS 6
Arkansas U Arkansas for Medical Sciences email 8
Unity Health-White County ERAS 6
Arizona Creighton/Maricopa Phoenix Interview Broker 8
U Arizona Phoenix ERAS
email and/or 7
U Arizona Tucson phone, also ERAS 22
California Arrowhead Regional email, then ERAS 13
California Pacific ERAS 13
Charles R Drew U email via eras 7
Kaiser Northern California-Oakland Interview Broker 15
Kaiser Northern California-San Jose Interview Broker 17
Kaiser Southern California ERAS 6
Kaweah Delta Health Care District (KDHCD) Thalamus 8
LAC+USC ERAS Message 12
Loma Linda University Health Education Consor ERAS 15
San Mateo County 12
Stanford Email 10
UC Davis ERAS 11
UC Irvine ERAS 8
UC Riverside question Interview Broker 10
Los Angeles County-Harbor-UCLA after II) ERAS 11
UCLA David Geffen/UCLA ERAS then Email 12
UCLA-San Fernando Valley/VA Greater Los Ang Email 13
UCLA-Kern ERAS then Email 2
Olive View/UCLA ERAS 16
UCSD ERAS 12
UCSF 13
UCSF/Fresno Yes Thalamus 12
Colorado U Colorado email 22
Connecticut U Connecticut email 11
Institute of Living/Hartford email 13
Yale Phone/Email 14
District of C George Washington University Email 10
Howard University ERAS 8
Georgetown ERAS 11
Saint Elizabeths Hospital-DC 9
Delaware Delaware Psychiatric Center Email 2
Christiana Care ERAS 4
Florida Aventura Hospital ERAS 6
Citrus Health Network Email 4
Community Health of South Florida (CHI) 0
FAU ERAS 9
HCA West Florida/Largo 2
Jackson Health Email 15
Larkin Community Hospital 1
Memorial Healthcare-Hollywood 10
Mount Sinai of Florida 0
Orange Park 2
Palm Beach Consortium Email 1
U Central Florida ERAS 11
U Central Florida-Gainsville Email 13
U Florida Thalamus 10
U Florida-Jacksonville Email 7
USF Morsani phone, email 12
Georgia Emory University Email, phone 31
Morehouse Email 5
Medical College of Georgia Email 12
Coliseum Medical Center ERAS 5
Gateway Behavioral Health Email 4
Hawaii U Hawaii Email, phone 12
Iowa Iowa Medical Education Collaborative ERAS 6
UnityPoint Broadlawns ERAS 3
U Iowa Interview Broker 12
Illinois Advocate Lutheran ERAS 8
Carle Foundation Hospital Interview Broker 5
Loyola ERAS 7
Northwestern ERAS 13
Rosalind Franklin ERAS 4
Rush Interview Broker 17
Southern Illinois U ERAS 9
U Chicago Yes ERAS 8
U Illinois-Chicago ERAS 17
U Illinois-Peoria 6
Indiana Community Health Network, Inc. ERAS, email 5
Indiana University Email 20
Indiana University-Vincennes Thalamus 4
Kansas U Kansas ERAS 11
U Kansas-Wichita ERAS, email 11
Kentucky U Kentucky-Bowling Green email 5
U Kentucky College of Medicine Interview Broker 8
U Louisville Email 11
Louisiana Louisiana State University Yes Interview Broker 10
Louisiana State University/Ochsner Clinic Found Email 13
Tulane University Email, Phone 12
Louisiana State University (Shreveport) ERAS 4
MassachusetBerkshire Medical Center Email 2
BI Deaconness Thalamus 21
Brigham and Women's Thalamus 17
BU ERAS 19
Cambridge Health Alliance Email, ERAS 14
Harvard South Shore ERAS
ERAS, 18
MGH/McLean SurveyMonkey 17
St Elizabeth's ERAS 3
Tufts Email 17
U Massachusetts Email 17
UMMS-Baystate Email 8
Maryland Johns Hopkins University Email, Phone 16
U Maryland/Sheppard Pratt Yes ERAS 24
Maine Maine 7
Michigan Central Michigan University Interview Broker 7
Detroit /Wayne State Email 8
Detroit Authority Health 0
Henry Ford Allegiance Health ERAS 9
Henry Ford Hospital/Wayne State Email 5
Michigan State U ERAS 8
Pine Rest Christian Mental Health Thalamus 9
St Mary Mercy Hospital ERAS 10
U Michigan ERAS 17
WMed Phone (f/u email) 5
Minnesota Hennepin County Hospital Interview Broker 10
U Minnesota ERAS 9
Mayo Clinic Rochester ERAS 7
Missouri KCU/Ozark Center 1
St Louis University ERAS 4
U Missouri-Columbia ERAS 8
U Missouri-Kansas City ERAS 9
WashU/B-JH/SLCH Phone 10
Mississippi U Mississippi ERAS 7
North Caroli Campbell ERAS 9
Carolinas Yes Phone, Email 10
Duke Email 11
Mountain Area Health Email 14
UNC Email 13
Vidant/East Carolina U ERAS 6
Wake Forest U ERAS 7
North DakotaU North Dakota 3
Nebraska Creighton University ERAS 4
New Hampshi Mary Hitchcock Memorial Hospital/Dartmouth-Hi Email 19
New Jersey Cooper 3
Jersey Shore U Phone 4
New Bridge email 2
Ocean Phone 5
Rowan/Jefferson/Lourdes Email 3
Rutgers NJMS ERAS/Email 6
Rutgers NJMS/Trinitas 0
Rutgers RWJMS ERAS/Email 8
New Mexico U New Mexico ERAS 11
Nevada UNLV Email 6
U Nevada Reno 4
New York Albany ERAS 3
Arnot Ogden ERAS 3
Bronx-Lebanon 0
Brookdale U Email 2
Creedmore 2
Harlem Hospital 0
Hofstra-Staten Island ERAS 7
Hofstra-Zucker Hillside ERAS 29
Interfaith 0
Jamaica Hospital 2
Lincoln Medical 1
Maimonides ERAS 4
Montefiore Email 16
Mt Sinai Email 23
Mt Sinai-Beth Israel ERAS 15
Mt Sinai-Elmhurst Email 4
Mt Sinai-St Lukes Thalamus 10
Nassau University 2
NYCOMEC Thalamus 15
NYMC-Metropolitan 6
NYP Columbia ERAS 5
NYP Cornell Email 15
NYU Phone 15
Richmond U 0
St Barnabas Hospital Phone 3
St. John's-South Shore Email 2
Stony Brook ERAS 5
SUNY Brooklyn 5
SUNY Upstate ERAS 8
U Buffalo Yes Email 1
U Rochester Thalamus 11
Westchester email, phone 5
Zucker-Mather Hospital ERAS 9
Ohio NEOMED ERAS 2
Case Western-MetroHealth ERAS 4
Case Western-University Thalamus 24
Cleveland Clinic Foundation Thalamus 11
Kettering Health Network ERAS 2
OSU Email 14
Riverside (OhioHealth) Thalamus 4
U Cincinnati Email 8
U Toledo 5
Wright State U Interview Broker 3
Oklahoma Griffin Memorial 2
Oklahoma State 2
U Oklahoma Email 7
U Oklahoma-Tulsa Email 11
Oregon Samaritan - Corvallis Email 9
Oregon U ERAS 11
Pennsylvani Albert Einstein ERAS 4
Allegheny Health Network 1
Drexel ERAS 16
Geisinger Email 10
Jefferson ERAS Message 15
Lake Erie COM ERAS 4
Lehigh Valley Email 12
Penn State 3
St Luke's – Anderson ERAS 4
Temple ERAS 13
U Penn ERAS Message 10
UPMC Email 9
Wright Center Email 4
Puerto Rico Ponce Health Sciences University 0
U Puerto Rico 0
Rhode IslandBrown/Butler Thalamus 19
South Caroli Medical U South Carolina ERAS 13
USC Greenville ERAS 10
USC Palmetto Calendy (website) 9
South Dakot U South Dakota ERAS/interview broker 6
Tennessee East Tennessee State University email 1
U Tennessee ERAS/Interview Broker 5
Meharry Medical College ERAS -> email 5
Vanderbilt University Email 14
Texas Baylor ERAS 13
JPS Health Email 7
TAMU-Temple ERAS 6
Texas Tech-Lubbock ERAS 15
Texas Tech-Permian Basin Email 4
Texas Tech-PLFSOM eras 4
UT Austin Interview Broker 14
UT Houston ERAS 17
UT Medical Branch Hospitals Email 11
UT RGV Yes Email 7
UT San Antonio ERAS 14
UT Southwestern Email 20
UT Tyler Email 10
Utah U Utah ERAS 16
Virginia EVMS Email, phone 7
LewisGale ERAS 7
UVA ERAS 15
VCU Email 7
Virginia Tech Carilion Email 7
Vermont U Vermont Interview Broker 8
Washington U Washington Yes Email 16
Providence Sacred Heart Email 5
Wisconsin MCW-Central Wisconsin yes for Email 2
MCW-Milwaukee waitlist ERAS 22
MCW-Northeastern Wisconsin Email 4
U Wisconsin Email 18
West Virgini Marshall University Email 3
WVU Email 5
WVU-Charleston percentEmail
programs 1
10 offered -->: 96%
date that falls within weeks 1-7,
Week 8 column I will move it.
Interview dates offered # W8 Nov/Dec (11/5-onward) # W7 Week 7 (10/29-11/4) # W6
all filled
all filled 10/31, 11/2,
10/29,
11/14, 11/27
11/12 they are full and 3
stopped reviewing
12/14, 1/4, 1/8, 1/11,
1/15, 1/18, 1/29 2 11/5,11/19 (waitlist)
11/29, 11/30, 12/8,
12/13, 12/1412/20, 1/9,
12/6, 12/19,
1/10, 1/16, 1/17, 1/23, 1/24
1/21, 1/22, 1/28, 1/29, 2/4,

2/6
1/14, 1/15, 1/21, 1/22, 6
1/28,
12/14,1/29,
1/3,2/4,
1/4,2/7
1/10, 1 11/21 2 10/29, 10/31
1/11
12/6, 12/13, 12/20, 1/3,
1/10,
11/7,1/17
11/14, 11/28, 12/5, 1 11/12
12/12,
looking12/19,
at their1/9, 1/23 in
schedule 3 11/12 (waitlist)
ERAS right now. 2 11/12, 11/13 3 10/29, 10/30 1
12/3 - only date left 1 2 10/31/2018, 11/2 1
10/23, 10/26,, 11/6,
11/8, 11/15 11/29,11/9
1/17
(Thursdays) 1 11/2
Waitlist
[12/14 available as of 11/20
10/25]
11/14, 11/21, 11/28, 1 11/12
12/12, 12/19
MWTF Oct-Jan
Tues/Thurs until 1/11
Nov-Jan (per 1
website)
11/26, 12/3, 12/7, 12/10, 1
12/14,
11/29, 12/17, 1/7, 1/11
12/6, 12/13, 11/11 1
12/20,
1/3, 1/9,1/10,
1/101/17, 1/24or
Morning
Afternoons 1
waitlist
Waitlist 6 "Hold"
waitlist
waitlist 1
waitlist 1 10/29
11/29, 12/3, 12/6, 2 11/19
12/20, 1/3, 1/7 3 10/29, 10/30
Waitlist 1 10/25/2018, 11/3 (waitlist) 9
2
Waitlist 1
5 11/7, 11/9, 11/13 1 10/29 1
12/5 open, rest waitlist

Dec 21; Jan 11, 18, 25 2 11/15
(done sending iis)
12/6, 12/13, 1/10, 1/24,

1/31 1 11/8
all invites sent per PC
1 11/6
Oct 11, 18, 25; Nov 1, 8,
29; Dec 13, 20;
10/11/2018, Jan 12/6,
10/25, 10 2 11/5 1
12/13
11/30, 12/7, 12/14, 12/21,
1/11
Oct 12; Nov 16, 30; Dec 1
14; Jan 4, 5 1
waitlist only 2 11/1
waitlist 11/7 (waitlist); 11/24 (got off waitlist) 11
10/31, 11/14, 11/28, 1
12/5,
10/15,1/9, 1/16,11/12
11/5, 1/25 , 2
12/3, 12/10
waitlist
1
Oct. 24, 31. Nov. 7, 14, 28. 1
Dec.
11/13,5,12/11,
12 12/12. 12/13, 1 10/30
12/21
12/20, 12/21, 1/10,
1/11
Waitlist. All dates full 1
10/30, 11/20, 11/27, 6 11/9 1

12/4, 12/11 1
Waitlist 1 11/9 2
1
waitlist only
Tues/Fri
01/25) Only watlist as of
10/31
9/24, 11/12, 12/7 1 11/01 1
1 10/31
Wed & Fri from Oct-Jan
(all
have full)
been the source of
confusion.
Waitlist only
Waitlist
10/19, only
10/26, 11/2,
11/9, 11/16, 1/4, 1/11 2
11/16, 11/19,
Nov, Dec, 11/30 left
Jan (tuesday
and fridays only) 1
Waitlist only 1
Waitlist only , 12/15, 1/10,
12/6, 12/13
1/12, 1/17 1 11/12 (WL only) 1 10/30 3
All filled #TrickleDown 1 11/9 3
Waitlist only 3 11/19
All filled12/17, 12/19, 1/02,
12/12,
1/07
Tues
10/31or, 12/12,
Fri, 10/23 - 12/11
1/2, 1/9,
1/16, 1/23 1 11/08 1
Waitlist only
Thurs
11/30and Fri,, 12/7
, 12/4 11/8 -, 2/8 3
12/11 Waitlist only 1 2 10/29
1 10/30 1
11/1, 12/6
1 11/2 2
11/16, 11/30,
they may 1/18 one at
only offer 1 11/2
a time)
10/2 , 10/9, 11/16, 11/30,
12/7,
12/3,12/14,
12/1012/21
, 12/14, 1 11/6 1
1/11
11/26,, 1/18
11/30, 12/3/, 12/10, 1 11/19/2018 (LOI sent early Nov)
12/17
11/30, 12/14, 1/11, 1/18,
1/25 2 11/20 (after they sent me an email saying they accidently forgot to interview me???? +1, lo
1 11/14
all filled 1 11/1 after faculty rec.
waitlist left after one wave

in W3)
1/7 1 (offered 11/16 after late
9/24,
10/1910/01
; research track 7 invites)
11/12-13 and 11/26-27
10/11, 11/1, 11/10,
12/13, 1/10 1 10/29
Waitlist only
Oct. 12,15,26,29; 3 11/17, 11/20
Nov.7
10/30 ,27; Dec.5
per PD all slots are was not specified - just said
full their slots were full
waitlist 1 11/7 got off waitlist 1 10/29
waitlist
12/6 12/13 2
waitlist
Fridays Oct 19 - Jan 11
2 dates left in December 1
12/6
Mondays (10/15, 11/12, 1
12/10, 1/7) 10/23,
10/9, 10/16,
11/6, 12/11
12/3, 12/17, 1/7, 1/14 1

Waitlist Only
11/1, 11/29, 1/3, 1/10 1 10/9
1
11/1,11/08, 11/15,
12/06,12/13, 12/20
1 11/8 1
1 11/13 10/29 1
1-4, 1-8, 1-15 1

Only waitlist as of 10/22 1 11/13
1
1 10/29
1/18 1 10/29 4
Waitlist
10/23, 10/30, 11/6, 1 11/2
11/9, 12/7, 12/11, 12/18 1 11/6
1
finished ii 1 11/21 (given a cancellation) 1
12/6 - 1 spot remaining.

Rest filled 1 10/30
11/1, 11/8, 11/29, 12/6, 1 11/5 1 10/30
12/13
Mon/Tues Nov/Dec
finished ii 3 11/20
1 11/6 1
waitlist
waitlist
12/12, 12/14, 12/21, 1/9, 1
1/11
Waitlist
Every Wedonly& Fri beginning
Oct. 10th
Waitlist
11/29, 12/6, 12/13, 1 11/8 (Off of the waitlist) 1 Waitlist 10/30 (as if there wasnt enough people on the
12/20 1 11/15 1 10/29
11/2, 11/5, 11/9, 11/13,
11/15 , 12/3, FULL
(ALL DATES 12/13AT 1
THIS TIME)
2 11/6, 11/14 2
Tuesdays from12/28,
12/14, 12/21, Oct-Jan
1/4,
1/11, 1/28
they assigned a date to me
11/9, 11/30, 12/7, 12/14,
1/4
waitlist
Thursdays (10/11, 10/18, 1 11/2 waitlist 1
11/1)
11/14, 11/28, 12/19, 1/2,
1/9, 1/16 4
#Trickledown
11/27, 12/4, 12/11,
12/18, 1/8, 1/15, 1/29 1 11/12 after LOI 1 11/1 1
11/6, 11/13, 11/27, 12/4
waitlist only 1 8 10/29 waitlistx8
10/19
10/25, 11/8, 11/29, 2 11/13
12/4,
11/15,12/13,
11/29,12/20, 1/3
12/6, 12/13, 1
1/10, 1/17
(non-research), 11/15-16, 2
12/6-7
Nov. 4;(research)
Nov 11-13 (PRP); 2 10/29 (after LOI), 10/30 (after LOI)
10/22 1 11/17 1
11/2
All filled 2 11/7
11/2, 11/9, 11/16, 11/30, 1 11/13 1 11/2 4
12/7, 12/14,
10/25 , 11/15,12/21
11/30,
12/10, 12/17, 1/10/19 2
spot),1/9,1/16,1/23,1/30(1
spot)
20, 27. Dec. 4, 11, 18. 1
Jan. 8, 15, 22, 29. Feb. 5 1
12/4
11/12, 11/19, 12/3, 1 11/26
12/10,
10/12,12/17
10/19, 10/26, 1 10/29 3
11/2, 11/30
waitlist only
10/29, 11/12, 11/28,

12/5,
11/16,1/21
11/26, 11/30, 11/20
12/3, 12/7. 12/10 4
Tues/Thurs Oct-Jan 7 11/16
waitlist only 1/4, 1/11,

12/14, 12/21, 1 not sure why but don't want
11/6 3 10/29 2
1/18 1 to question it
waitlist 1
1 11/13
waitlist
December 4, 6, 11, 13, 18 2 11/5 (waitlist) 3
January 3, 8, 10
11/13,11/27 1 11/2
Waitlist
2
Waitlist only 1/8, 1/14,

12/18, 1/7, 1 10/30
1/15, 1/22
11/5/2018 << did you have

Waitlist 1 to do supplement? 1 11/2 (waitlist)
waitlist 1 10/30(waitlist)
10/22
10/12,, 11/28,
10/19,12/7
11/2,
11/16, 12/7, 12/14 1
2129 102 55 122

Week 6 (10/22-10/28) # W5 Week 5 (10/15-10/21) # W4 Week 4 (10/8-10/14) # W3
3 10/19
10/23, 10/24 4
1 10/19 2
2 10/18 1 10/8, 10/11 4
5 10/11 11
1 10/18 1 10/10 3
3 10/15, 10/16, 10/18 10 10/13
10/25, offered a 11/5 date, o 1
2 10/18 3 10/12 7
5 10/18 2
5 10/16
10/27 (after LL) 1 10/19 5

10/26 1 10/18 1
2 10/16(waitlist only) +1 10
3 10/16 (after email) <nice! 3 10/10
10/8/2018 10/12 (with 3
1 10/18 4 med psych offer) 6
7
1 10/15 5 10/8, 10/14 4
10/22 6 10/16 2 10/14 2
10/23 11 10/16/2018, 10/19
10/22 6 10/11, 10/12 6
2
10/25 15
10/16 (not research), 5 10/9 2

2 10/18 2
3 10/8 (waitlist) 4
2 10/8 7
1 10/19 (waitlist) 6
1 10/8 3
11 10/9, 10/12
10/22, 10/27
10/24 6 10/8
10/25 4 10/15, 10/16 3 10/10, 10/13 2
2 10/11
2
2
6 10/15
1 10/8 3
5 10/8, 10/9 5
1 10/15
7
10/23 2
2 10/15 3
10/24 3 10/8 6
10/22 waitlist 1 10/9
2 count for both 10/11 4
10/26 waitlistx10 3 programs), 10/12 9
10/23
10/26 waitlist, interview 1
2
1 10/17 11
3 10/9 3
10/22 3
1 1
1 10/17 1 10/12
1 10/12
1 10/18 2
10/23 6 10/15 10/17, 10/21 7 10/8, 10/9, 10/11 3
10/26 2
1 10/10 2
10/24 1 10/16 2 10/9 11
10/23 1
12 10/16 (waitlist) +2 1 10/8 1
1
3
10/23 5
2 10/15 1
anything on that site about 5
being done interviewing 1 9/17 2 10/11, 10/12 1
2 10/15, 10/16 (waitlist) 6
5
10/23 2 10/11 3
2
10/25 1 10/11
10/23 2 10/9 7
2 10/19 last spot, 10/19 (waitl 6 10/9, 10/11 9
10/23, 10/26 4 10/17, 10/19 6 10/10 4
10/22 2
invites for the year. Did not 3 10/15, 10/16 11 10/10, 10/11 1
receive interview 1 10/11 16
1 10/15 2 10/9
1 10/12
10/23 5 10/15, 10/16 1 10/10 6
10/18 (waitlist) 6 10/12 2
1
4 10/17 5 10/8, 10/10 4
10/23 4 10/10. 10/12 1
7
10/24, 10/25 1 10/15 2
8
1
10/26 1 10/9 3
1
10
forgot to interview me???? +1, lol so weird) 15 10/8, 10/9, 10/10, 10/11
1 10/10 1
3 10/9, 10/12 7
1 10/18 1 10/8 3
6 10/16
1 10/17
1
09/19 2 10/9
2
2 10/10
2 10/8 1
1 10/15 2
2 10/15 3 10/9, 10/10, 10/11 3
1 10/17 7
3
3
1
1 10/18
10/24 1 10/11
1 10/18 1 10/8, 10/11
17
1 10/16 2
10/22 1
1 10/10
10/22 1 10/19 1
1 10/16
2 10/12 1
10/23 1 10/11 3
11
5 10/9, 10/12
10/24 3 10/10, 10/11
2
1 10/15 1 1
10/25
10/29
10/26 1 10/12 5
26 10/19 1
they invite for an

1 10/19 1 interview)
10/24
1 10/15 2
10/23, 10/25 4 10/17, 10/16, 10/19 3
8 10/15, 10/18 (Research Trac 4 10/10 10
2 10/19 2 10/9 10
10/25 1 10/12 2
10/24 3 10/15 5 10/10
2 10/9
1 10/10 10
2 10/16 2 10/12
2 10/18 (clinical track) 1 10/9
4 10/15 6 10/11, 10/12 3
2
2 10/18 1 10/12
2
1 10/8 4
10/24 1 10/18 2
1 10/16
10/22 2 10/8 1
1 10/10 2
3
1
4
here wasnt enough people on the waitlist lol 12 10/8 (waitlist only) 10
2 10/8 7
1
10/25 2 10/8, 10/10 9
3
10/25, 10/26 3 10/8 1
1 10/9 4
1 10/15 2
2
2 10/11
4 10/15, 10/19 2
10/22 waitlist - update, I pul 6 10/15, 10/18 (WL only) 3 10/12
2
10/22 6 10/8, 10/10, 10/11 6

7
10/24 1 10/15 11 10/9
2 10/15, 10/21 1 10/10 1
2
1
10/28 1 10/9 2
10/23, 10/27 1 10/15 1 10/8 9
30 (after LOI) 8
10/24 4 10/8, 10/13
1 10/12
1 10/15 16
10/23, 10/24, 10/25 4 10/15 1 10/12 2
2
1 10/18 2
2
1
10/22 3 10/15 1 10/12
10/23 1 10/18 2
2 10/8, 10/9 4
10/22 1 3
1 10/19 2 10/10 3
3 10/8
1 1
1 10/11 1
4 10/8
10/26 10 10/10
1 10/19 2 10/8
1 10/17 1 10/9 1
10/26 1 10/12
2 10/18 2 10/11
hit up then. <--- release
10/23 4 10/17, 10/18 1 the hounds 5
2 10/15 11/6
10/26 1 10/15 5
2 10/12 5
1 3
10/19 (waitlist) 1 10/8 14
10/22, 10/24 2 10/8, 10/9 1
6
1 10/8
1 10/19 5 10/8, 10/9, 10/11 7
10/19 (waitlist, no 1
8 supplemental) 3 10/9, 10/12 9
1
2 10/16 (waitlist) 4 10/8, 10/10 4
9/24 1
1
238 334 651
Week 2 (9/24-
Week 3 (10/1-10/7) # W2 9/30) # W1 Week 1 (9/17-9/23)
6 9/25 9/20
6 9/17
10/5 1 9/26
6 9/27
10/1 3 9/24
10/1, 10/2, 10/4
10/1, 10/2, 10/3, 10/5 6 9/26, 9/27, 9/28
10/1, 10/2 8 9/26, 9/28
10/1, 10/2, 10/4

10/3 10 9/19
5 9/19, 9/21
10/1, 10/4
9/15 9 9/15, 9/17, 9/18
10/1, 10/2, 10/3
10/5
10/5
10/2
10/1, 10/4
10/2, 10/5
10/2, 10/4, 10/4, 10/5

10/6
10/4 (community
10/4 5 track)
track), 9/27
10/1 3 (research)
10/1, 10/4 5 9/24
10/2, 10/3 4 9/25, 9/26 8 9/18, 9/20, 9/21
10/1, 10/2, 10/5 3 9/19, 9/21
10/1, 10/5 4 9/23, 9/25 3 9/18
10/1 1
10/2
10/2, 10/5 2 9/25
10/5
10/2, 10/4
10/1, 10/4 3 9/24, 9/28 2 9/21
10/1, 10/3, 10/4, 10/6 1 9/21 1 9/21
10/1
1 9/17
10/5 6 9/22
10/1 4 9/25, 9/27, 9/28 4 9/19, 9/20, 9/21
10/4,10/5
2 9/26 3 9/19
10/1 4 9/26
10/1, 10/5 (research) 2 9/25, 9/26 6 9/17
4 9/17, 9/20
10/1 1 9/24 8 9/17, 9/18, 9/19
10/3 1 9/25 2 9/18
4 9/27, 9/28
10/1
6 9/18
3 9/28
10/4 2 9/27 3 9/20
10/1 3 9/26 1 9/17
10/5 1 9/27 1 9/21
5 9/18, 9/19, 9/21
12 9/19
10/2 1 9/27
10/2, 10/3
10/1
10/2 1 9/24 3 9/20
10/4
1 9/25 5 9/17
10/5 1 9/24 2 9/17, 9/18
10/2 6 9/17, 9/18, 9/20, 9/21
10/1 3 9/20
10/1 8 9/26
10/1, 10/2 1 9/25 3 9/15, 9/18
10/1 1 9/25
10/2 3 9/19, 9/20
10/1 3 9/24, 9/25 4 9/15, 9/17
10/2 1 9/24 1 9/20
10/1, 10/2 8 9/26, 9/27
10/1 4 9/24 1 9/17
10/1, 10/4 2 9/27
10/1,10/4 4 9/27 7 9/21

10/4
10/1, 10/2
10/1 8 9/25, 9/26, 9/28
10/4
10/4
16 9/25
10/1, 10/3 2 9/24 1 9/21
10/1
9/17 12 9/17, 9/18, 12/20-21
10/3, 10/5 8 9/25, 9/28
10/4
10/1
10/2, 10/5 1 9/24 1 9/18
10/1, 10/5
10/1 2 9/24
9/27 (Rural 2 9/17, 9/20
10/1, 10/2 1 Track) 1 9/22
10/1 7 9/21
10/1, 10/3, 10/4
10/1 2 9/19
10/1, 10/2, 10/4
10/1 3 9/25, 9/26, 9/28 1 9/16
10/2 3 9/24, 9/27

6 9/17, 9/19, 9/20
10/1
6 9/25, 9/26, 9/28 2 9/20 (home institution), 9/20
10/3 4 9/18
10/1 1 9/28 4 9/21
10/3, 10/4, 10/7 1 1 9/19
10/5
10/1, 10/2 6 9/25 5 9/18, 9/19, 9/21
10/2 10 9/21
10/1 2 9/26 1 9/19
6 9/19
2 9/20
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10/1 1 9/25 1 9/19
1 9/25
10/1 1 9/25/2018 1 9/19
2 9/20
10/1 3 9/24, 9/25, 9/26
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10/1, 10/3
10/2 (child 3 9/28
combo), 10/2
10/1 1 9/27
10/1
10/1, 10/2
10/1 1 9/24
10/1
10/2, 10/4 4 9/25, 9/27, 9/28
10/2, 10/3, 10/5(research)
10/3, 10/5
10/1 2 9/24 1 9/18
2 9/27 (research)
10/1, 10/2 2 9/24/2018
3 9/25, 9/26 7 9/19, 9/20, 9/21
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10/1, 10/3 2 9/28
10/1 6 9/25
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Do you have any questions for me?
Strength, Weakness, Hardship TRIFECTA
Tell me about your childhood
Tell me about yourself
What's a mistake you've made in life?
What are you looking for in a residency program?
Tell me about one of your interesting patients
Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What is your darkest secret?
Why do you want to move here?
Why would our residency program be a good fit for you?
What
What doareyou
the expect to be most
characteristics anddifficult
skills ofinapsychiatry residency?
good psychiatrist? and how do you
exemplify them?
Why psych?
Tell me about a time you had conflict and how you dealt with it
Tell me about a case that made you convinced that psychiatry is for you.
hobbies
Challenging patient
What challenges do you foresee that will potentially affect Psychiatry in the
next ten years?
How would you describe your decision-making style?
What do you feel you could add to our program?
Have
What you
kindheld any leadership
of patient roles?
do you find it most difficult to relate to? What tactics
would you use to establish optimal rapport with such a patient?
If you could be any kind of sandwich, what would you be and why?
How many triangles are there in north america?
Why don't you want to go to your home program?
Tell me a joke
Tell me about a time you worked in a group
How would you deal with a difficult patient
Who areayou
Tell me timeand whywhere
where are you in expereinced
you my office? negative countertransference
towards your patient
Why
Do youdidhave
you an
apply
ideatoofour program?
what you'd like to do after residency? ('I know its still
early har-har')
What do you like to do in your free time?
Tell me about the last book you read
How well do you take criticism?
What wouldprograms
How many your friends say about
are people you? to now? (for someone couples
applying
matching) <yes, not sure if "allowed" but it was asked>
Do you have kids?/Do you want to have kids soon? (YES I know it's not
allowed, but I've already been asked this twice)
What baked good most describes you?
What is "unexpected" about you?
What's your favorite TV show?
How
If youwould your peers
were stranded ondescribe
an islandyou?
and could only bring 1 book, 1 CD, and 1
movie. GO!
How did being biracial positively or negatively contribute to your life growing
up?
Have
Whatsyou ever
your been in
favorite love? Why? Ok now this is a leap but how does it relate
animal?
to psychiatry?
why (insert city)?
Present a patient to me
Why
Givenare you smiling?
psychiatry's controversial past management we no longer use (eg,
lobotomies), what practice of today will we see in a similar light in 2050?
Tell
Tell me
me about
about athe
time when you
rotations failed
you've done in psychiatry and some of the patients
that really captivated your interest
Would you really want to live here? Convince me.
What is your biggest accomplishment in recent years?
Describe your mother in one word.
How do your parents feel about you going into psychiatry?
Comments
questions for each interview https://www.aamc.org/download/77936
because EVERYONE WILL ASK THIS /data/residencyquestions.pdf <<THANK YOU! x2
life got flipped turned upside here, I'll tell you all 'bout my life in a town narcissistic father here or
down... called Bel Air :) no......?
Where shall I start...? Back when I
was 7... https://goo.gl/b2DLsf
I heard this at least 3 times already Yep! my first question this question?
wtf, its a secret <--so they'll never know the difference!
bc
andim desperate
I am lookingfor a residency
to be in a spot <actually loled
psychiatry residency"
< calllllll
This actually seems like a good me maybe interviewers know all their
question <-- lmao cause the other's aren't? others questions are shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=nGt_JGHYEO4
<lol that's more a plus...
< ughhhh hate
a histrionic this qtold me i was
patient
hot ;) ayyyyyy
none
Can I -instead
just psychiatry
tell you about my one < lol
non-challenging pt? Bahaha
damn that's a great question
I flip a coin when I can't decide...
strong memes? < <3 < dankest of meme
only in the boudoir
normal patients
waaa?<---peanut...peanut
buttter...jelly lolololol
Oh I hope my interviews consist of no
mytrolls plz <<<
geography is dildo
???? someone just asking me riddles terrrrible...well this sucks
https://goo.gl/Zuiist You got aasked
change that? Only one but the
lightbulb?- i did also
r/jokes
< I did 10% of the work and took bulb must really WANT to change... LOL, that was funny!
90% of theway
The same credit
I’d deal with a <----- it was youuuuuuu.... uuuughhh https://funnyjunk.com/Roccos+joke/fun
difficult interviewer < :D zinger
:D ;) someone ordered a pizza ;)
you're experiencing it now <LOL
cuz i needed a safety <savage
make some bank!
netflix
depiction & chill <wink>
of gender roles in the
Berenstain Bears
Are you saying you thinkor something.
I don't take <omg, yes
criticism well? Fuck you! <LOL they're in the room with us
that i'm a douche what are these "friends" you speak of? now.
well, NRMP says ...
with a partner, tho not engaged, and I
i love making babies assume people think I'm single lol
i'm a cupcake < LOL
Seinfeld
i'm a douche
a strong emphasis on family and like literally forgot I was
wut that's it?" biracial" :)
No
DamnI'mthey're
a psychopath. < LOL
asking whatever they does loving yourself count?
want to out here <lol i love baboons
you tell me
oh naaaaaah
I have tetanus excuse my risus sardonicus without the awful side
uhhhh...everything?
so today I got a schedule that told Spine surgery effects :( )
me to walk into this room...
ROFFL! This can't be real..

Momma didn't raise no fools
no need to have dozens of uninterested in the program if you beginning it's best to appear
responses at the ready. respond with no. interested
describe your most traumatic

lol experience." < omg
please tell me what program It was the new Mt Sinai-Quizno's < the rat-thing wears a white
asked this program coat in the commercials
HAHA awesome joke.

interviewer just assumed relating to any information that racial background and its
you were biracial? you have volunteered. effects on my life.
awkward silence until they ask awkward turtle question asked over for 30 that could ever
another question. gesture) of me minutes. happen, for sure
<- I actually got asked this for handle that school there a
my med school interview! one? week later!
<LOL
Was this at University of
Tennessee Memphis?
and responded,
"tell me more."
Interview Impressions may not be on the list. Just
please put the row in the right
Info for Day Of Impressions What Everyone Actually Cares About
State Program Interview Structure Hotel? Dinner? Positive Negative Comments Schedule EMR Free Food? Free Parking?
shirt are of opportunities for moonlighting apparently. aren't. during intern year to provide study time for Step 3. Seriously
U Alabama 4 interviews throughout the day, Q&A lunch, ch
discount acceptable. considering not ranking them.
4 interviews from 8-Noonish, Q&A lunch, then the night practice OP clinics. Cost of living is lovely. Food the night
U South Alabama site tour afterwards. N before. before was delicious Avatar yes yes
NIGHT AS training sites, staff are incredibly welcoming and passionate
Arkansas U Arkansas for Medical Sciences Y (2 nights)INTERVIEW about education.
Very friendly faculty, staff and residents. Residents seem
Unity Health-White County Dinner night before, half day interview with 4 Y Y happy. No call. Low COL.
Arizona Creighton/Maricopa Phoenix N Y
U Arizona Phoenix
residents, tour of Banner South do lunch, no Snacks always available for free. Gym at the hospital. //tucson that mostly trained at U of A so training perspectives is Cerner at Banner
U Arizona Tucson Discount dinner) is a cool city. has a young vibe in an old town scewed CPRS at VA meal card for main hosyes
Wed or 1-4 on Thurs) Interview with at least 2 courtroom in house. Multiple medical schools rotate through as someone that rotated here..the 4 mos of IM are very because it's in California. You won't get to enjoy it anyways.
California Arrowhead Regional faculties from 10-noon N N ARMC so there is ample opportunity to teach. busy for residents ARMC has a horrible reputation from people that live in the area. meditech and pno yes
California Pacific N N Epic When on call Given parking stipend $180/month $2,160/year
Charles R Drew U 8-3. 6 interviews in morning, then drive to ho N N yes

program. New facilities, diverse pt population. Nice area. No
Kaiser Northern California-Oakland8-1:30 N N overnight call.
+ Santa Clara w/ shuttle), interviews (Santa on every whom seem passionate about medical education and crafting a was mention of Kaiser Santa Cruz, none of these sites are experience I believe that they have the drive and ability to do no 24-hr call; home monthly stipend for
Kaiser Northern California-San Jos Clara), wrap-up Discount Thursdays) residency program that will produce leaders in the field centralized, will spend 4 years driving around. something new in medical education. call only Epic cafeteria
wellness. Residents seemed to like each other. Supportive research going on. No dedicated psych ED. //attendings had at least a few of those typical interview questions such as
Kaiser Southern California attendings. are not best at teaching +1 "conflict situation" etc.
7:00 night really nice and accessible. Great opportunity to personalize
Kaweah Delta Health Care Distric 9:30-5:00 PM; interviews 1-5 PM Discount before your learning. +1
LAC+USC
caffeine available and you don't have to sign a contract about additionally take a day call (until 9pm I believe) once a
Loma Linda University Health Education Consortium N Y not drinking alcohol etc etc. week on a weekday. Call stops in Nov. on PGY-4. Epic Nope Yes
week most cafeteria on site
Los Angeles County-Harbor-UCLA 8:30-3:00pm N weeks q4-7 in house eveninCerner unlimited free food
resident sponsored happy hour in the on when you because you have access to UCLA Semel faculty, however, the because you have longer continuity with your outpatient intern class that was quickly recruited from the scrambled pool. It Cerner and cafeteria // 4 stars on
Olive View/UCLA evening of the interview day. N interview) program itself does not require research. patients but for some people it might be a bit disruptive. will be interesting to see where this will go in about 5 years. Epic Yelp yes
San Mateo County N N

Stanford Y
Lunch. Tour of the hospital and county
UC Davis inpatient psychiatry unit. Free parking. N Y Epic yes no
UC Irvine N Y
UC Riverside Y (day of)
5:00-7:00 unbeatable benefits, electives in every field of psych $1.5k/month. My friend in lived in an off campus studio for
UCLA David Geffen/UCLA 9 AM- 5PM followed by 2 hour happy hour N PM) imaginable, tight knit resident group $1000/month) EPIC, CPRS @VA
5:00-7:00 The program is also currently recruiting for a PGY-2 class.
UCLA-VA Greater Los Angeles (for 7:30 AM - 4:30 PM N PM) - Cost of living ~Q10 call in PGY-2 CPRS
Interviews starts at 9 with each lasting about
UCLA-Kern 30 minutes. Discount N
Be prepared for lots. *** I had a different

experience where there was not a lot of
walking involved. There was a shuttle that
took us to her we needed to be. Morning 8-9
orientation. 9-10Am first round of interviews
15mins each with PD and assistant PD and a
30 minute with another faculty. And a tour
and of the Medical center. Afternoon is Lunch $5800 housing stipend. Good opportunities for research. Now Does not have a county hospital, thus the patients you see
and VA/ scenic tour of La jollla. Then has community track, but can still get involved in community may be less acute and complicated. Very litttle forensics
afternoon interviews(1).Fantastic lunch! Great psych stuff if not in formal track. Great research opportunities. exposure. // Night float PGY I-II-III <-- Hillcrest hospital
UCSD opportunity to customize your learning. N Y Research required. serves as the safety-net county hospital EPIC, CRPS No
UCSF N Y
community. Close mentorship and supervision with attendings. fellowship opportunities. Fresno for some people (although
UCSF/Fresno N N Q6weekend call... COL is lower than rest of CA...). The PC is very talkative. FYI
car tour of Denver while on the way to accommodating elective requests, deciding to join a track later mindfulness training), but the challenging schedule seems psychotherapy training here is strong currently, good relationship
Colorado U Colorado Denver Health from University of Colorado. N Y on. to limit participation. with Denver PD institute, lots of supervision EPIC, CPRS@VA yes
Connecticut U Connecticut 8 AM - 3:30 PMish, tour, interviews, lunch N Y

like inpatient, outpatient, etc. are in one place which is have a neuroscience center but it doesn't seem like
Institute of Living/Hartford discount Varies convenient. residents are involved in research. Very family-friendly program and low cost of living. Epic Call meals/$ Yes
retention b/c ppl want to stay. Seems to train a lot of folks who New Haven feels more town than small city and could be
Yale discount Y later go on to be chair/PD. too small for some. Boston and NYC are not that close.
District of Colu George Washington University Y
day starts at 8. IVs spaced out in the AM; 3 what it has to offer. good place to work if you're interested in would be, in what order the day of and some times were prepare you really well so that you can handle any kind of patient
Howard University 30 min interviews N N policy related things~ rearranged. that comes your way in the future.
Georgetown
the US/world 4. St. E's has a ton of history and if you like was years ago. 2. Rent is ridiculously expensive if you want multiple EMR
Saint Elizabeths Hospital-DC N N forensics, apparently this is the place 5. New facility to live in a decent apartment in a better area. (inc. Avatar)
Delaware Delaware Psychiatric Center N None No Yes

is really friendly and helpful 6. Prominent faculty member in snow/incliment weather in late december to early march. I
Christiana Care N N ECT/TMS feel the program will eventually be good, just not yet. Does not take involuntary admissions
moonlighting, but chair is very much in favor of it and residents
Florida Aventura Hospital N Y feel it will be be available soon.
Citrus Health Network
Community Health of South Florida (CHI)
Tuesday
FAU No dates.)
HCA West Florida/Largo
other programs. They also cover 3 hopsitals which leads to
Jackson Health a lot of call and less interaction with other residents.
Larkin Community Hospital
Memorial Healthcare-Hollywood N
Mount Sinai of Florida
Orange Park
Palm Beach Consortium
U Central Florida N Y Newer program (only one intern class)
forensics, encouraging research/activities in organized
U Central Florida-Gainsville discount Y medicine like APA/etc. Newer program (they have two full classes and a PGY-3). Florida.
U Florida Y Y
U Florida-Jacksonville
USF Morsani N Y
tour, tour Emory inpatient psych, back to restaurant. it than a lot of coastal cities. Very clear that training at Grady workload in PGY1 and PGY2 that chief says they're
Georgia Emory University morning spot with wrap up and cookies N depends) means you'll be able to handle anything. addressing
Morehouse N Y
Medical College of Georgia Cerner
Coliseum Medical Center N Y

Gateway Behavioral Health Y Y
Hawaii U Hawaii Y
Iowa Iowa Medical Education Collaborative N Y
UnityPoint Broadlawns
U Iowa Y Y
Illinois Advocate Lutheran
PD seemed uninterested, PC is very disorganized, IMG
Carle Foundation Hospital N Y residents
Loyola 7:15 am- 3 pm- 5 interviews in total Y
Northwestern N Y
Rosalind Franklin 10 am - 2 pm Discount N
restaurant in
Rush 8:30 am to 4:30 pm (at the latest) Discount Chicago)
Southern Illinois U Y Y
dinner in compared to other Chicago programs). Call schedule seems No VA, no inpatient at main hospital, driving long distances
U Chicago N Chicago) pretty reasonable. Diverse patient population from two inpatient hospitals. Is not a highly ranked program on doximity
Chicago is amazing!! UIC is very mission focused and

interested in treating underserved populations. Women’s Got vibe from some residents that UIC was 2nd choice
Mental Health and Neuropsychology appears to be more compared to other Chicago programs. Smaller inpatient
unique specilties with robust resources. Heard from some unit at main hospital. Facilities are generally okay but call
residents that there was too much psychotherapy. Sites are rooms/work rooms seemed small. Unclear how much
mostly within walking distance. Solid benefits. Top 30 NIH resident wellness is park of the program. Seems like a solid
research funding, clinician educator and research tracks program with great training, but maybe not a dream
available. (another review). Adding to above, faculties are very program. Compared to other programs I have interviewed
diverse and so is general class. Great collab with Fam Med at call seems heavy. (another review) residents do seem a
Y (Night department on things like LGBTQ clinics. Pretty much residents bit more tired and not keen on wellness. Not much of a
before at can do anything and everything if wanted. Residents graduate cohesive group from what I see but the class is big and I
U Illinois-Chicago 8am-3pm (ended early) Discount 6:00pm) and do world-class things all over Chicago region and beyond didn't see everyone.
U Illinois-Peoria Y N .
Indiana Community Health Network, Inc. 7:15 am to around 12:30 pm Y Y
Really, really solid program. From research to electives. Well-
Indiana University Y Y funded. Indy if that ain't you
Driving tour of Vincennes from 1:00 pm to work at the Jasper, and Evansville, IN. Interested in training the next EPIC at Good
Indiana University-Vincennes 2:00 pm. Y hospital) generation of physicians for the area. PGY-4 year is all elective
Samaritan
to allow people who want to fastPresumably
track in C&A to take off.
night of
Kansas U Kansas Discount interview)
morning tour/lecture, 5x20min afternoon easy off service rotations first year, seem to value residents and decent program overall, if you can swing living in wichitia it would
U Kansas-Wichita interviews, some are 2v1 Y Y want to keep you, PD advocates for residents kansas be great program Cerner yes + $95 to spend
Kentucky U Kentucky-Bowling Green
Multiple different EMR's, little exposure to forensics, weaker

Very supportive, friendly welcoming staff. Established program. geriatric psych. Fewer number of overall teaching faculty,
Great city to live in, lots of fun things to do and great place for although the new chair is actively recruiting more
U Kentucky College of Medicine Morning individual interviews (5 x 25min) Y Y young adults psychiatrists currently. $$ included on paych Yes
Established program with strong emphasis on psychotherapy,

Tour and 3 30-minute interviews (PD, faculty, telepsych, and broad exposure to patients through many
resident) plus a "group interview" where you different sites (most are within blocks of each other downtown). Lots of sites/hospitals = different EMRs at every site. Seem
ask one of the other applicants about Parking is free. Good presence of residents at pre-IV dinner to take quite a bit of call in PGY3 and 4 2-3 blocks of night Cerner, EPIC,
themselves and present that to the group. and they were cool. Faculty seem to have good relationships Also, no forensics fellowship and very little exposure float (2 weeks, M-F Allscripts,
U Louisville Finished by 4pm N Y with residents. City is awesome 8a-8p) CPRS Only when on call Yes
and faculty.15-20 min each. actually goes by trouble getting fellowshipss from, baylor to columbia, really started an ACER addition program this year so should be free food in doc's lounge/ have a smoothie king and subways in
Louisiana Louisiana State University- OLOL pretty fast! n y anywhere. helpful. no child psych fellowship the main hospital and CC's coffee shop there.
Ochsner tour, lunch, LSU interviews, LSU come first
Louisiana State University/Ochsnertour serve N Epic
9-4ish, 4 total interviews including 1 PD and 1 Underserved population. Facilities seem fine. Younger 20s
Tulane University chief, lunch, didactic, tour Discount Y residents. Good faculty. Heavy first-2 years. Issues with social workers,
Louisiana State University (Shreveport) N Y
Massachusetts Berkshire Medical Center
BI Deaconness N Y
Brigham and Women's N Y
URM
BU N students)
Cambridge Health Alliance N Y
Harvard South Shore Dinner can be before or after interview N Y
MGH/McLean Y
St Elizabeth's
Tufts Discount Y
U Massachusetts Discount Y
UMMS-Baystate N N
Discounte
Maryland Johns Hopkins University d Y
coast cities; close to DC. Baltimore is an awesome city with lots program? It's just very busy because the area has lots of
U Maryland/Sheppard Pratt N Y to do if you have free time psych needs)... Living in crime-heavy area epic
with a couple of residents at a local resto. terms of getting time off. Call seems fairly light. Faculty seem Not research heavy, but this is being more prioritized.
Maine Maine They only interview one applicant per day Y N very smart, friendly and approachable. Population is not that ethnically diverse.
Michigan Central Michigan University Y Y
Detroit /Wayne State 5 interviews w/ residents, faculty, PD N Y
Detroit Authority Health
Henry Ford Allegiance Health Discount N
6 interviews each lasting 20 min. Various throughout so continuity.
Henry Ford Hospital/Wayne State faculty members including PD, chair Y Y goes until 2:30 or so epic
Michigan State U 5 interviews w/residents, faculty, PD for some N

3 interviews, one with program director, one Discount
Pine Rest Christian Mental Health with faculty, one with two current residents sort of Y
St Mary Mercy Hospital
in during elective time. 3rd years get super nice private offices
U Michigan 5 30-min interviews- 2 residents, 2 faculty, PD N Y in the outpatient clinic. ann arbor isn't for everyone
6 interviews 30 min: chair, PD, faculty, 3 residents, want ppl connected and wanting to stay in area. PD
WMed residents Y Y very genuine and personable
Minnesota Hennepin County Hospital Y
U Minnesota Y
Mayo Clinic Rochester Y Y Epic Stipend each residencYes
Missouri KCU/Ozark Center

interviews 10-11. Tour 11-12. Lunch 12. 4 Y (6 pm the exposure to ECT and close ties with neuro and neurosurg but overall the program is more clinical/community geared
St Louis University interviews 1-3. 6 interviews total. discounted night before) department. compared to Washu next door.
(Resident's
U Missouri-Columbia N House)
U Missouri-Kansas City
WashU/B-JH/SLCH Y Epic Call vouchers Not at main campus (except nights/weekends)
Mississippi U Mississippi
5 interviews (1 with program director) Casual,
North Carolina Campbell laid back N Y Current residents are all from Campbell no call ever Epic No, just discount. yes, but it's a hike away
Carolinas Y Y
Duke N Y
Cerner, THE DAYS (not just
Mountain Area Health N Y Paragon) for call, pretty clutch) Yes
UNC N Y No VA
Vidant/East Carolina U Quiz? Y Y
Wake Forest U N Y
North Dakota U North Dakota 6pm dinner Y Y
Nebraska Creighton University Y
7:45a to 4pm. 5 interviews (1 with PD and engage in psychoanalytics in Boston. Many residents stay on diversity. Inpatient psych unit small at DHMC (21 beds) with
New Hampshire Mary Hitchcock Memorial Hospital Associate PD). Discount Y as faculty at DHMC or enter prestigous fellowship. 24hr call (no night float.)
2 days of interviews- first day at Cooper in child and adolescent, geri, addiction at Yale, Penn, etc). Atlanticare is more suburban. More research opportunities
New Jersey Cooper Camden, second day at Atlanticare N N Diverse group of residents who seemed to get along well. at Cooper than at AC.
Jersey Shore U
New Bridge
Ocean
Rowan/Jefferson/Lourdes N N
Rutgers NJMS
Rutgers NJMS/Trinitas
Rutgers RWJMS
8-4, 3 30 minute interviews, rounds, walking Very diverse patient population -- working with refugees, Native worried well. ABQ seems like a bit of a dead city if you're
New Mexico U New Mexico tour of the outside so dress appropriately! N Y American population, and Hispanic population. wanting to do more than just the outdoorsy sort of things.
Nevada UNLV Y
U Nevada Reno N Y
New York Albany
Arnot Ogden
Bronx-Lebanon
Brookdale U
Creedmore N N
Harlem Hospital
Hofstra-Staten Island
Hofstra-Zucker Hillside
Interfaith
^biggest BS ever, don't waste your time at a program like that
Jamaica Hospital ^dude screw that <bruh check your interview privilege
Maimonides
Montefiore N N
Mt Sinai Interviews (one with a resident). N Y
12/6, 12/13, see a lot of "zebras" while not being over worked and all getting commute and prob with eating lunch on time for those on anything new until after graduation however. Graduates attain
Mt Sinai-Beth Israel Ends no later than 3 pm N 01/10) along really well! the month VA rotation. great fellowships and postions in prestigious institutions after. Prism, will transition to Epic at some No but you don't need a car
Mt Sinai-Elmhurst
Mt Sinai-St Lukes
Nassau University
7:45 - 2 or 3. 3 interviews with faculty and standing but I'm not sure how this really benefits the residents. Seems kind of bad. Didactics are mostly streamed from
NYCOMEC PD. Tour from resident. Discount Y Seems like there is a good forensic exposure. Michigan (but the residents didn't complain about).
NYMC-Metropolitan
%20Rates
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NYP Cornell
NYU
Richmond U
St Barnabas Hospital
St. John's-South Shore Heard this program is malignant. Not sure.
Stony Brook
SUNY Brooklyn
US." Salary also kinda low. Night float may go back to <Wait, are you sure that commute isn't only for the rural track? <<
SUNY Upstate 7:45-3ish Discount Y Research encouraged. PD seems nice. COL is low being just 1 person that covers 2 hospitals. Yikes. I'm not sure, you right Epic Parking like 80 bucks a month <<< 960 dollars is way too much for 1 year. I heard they are working on trying to get this changed but who knows.
U Buffalo
Too much supervision at times. Meh location. Facilities
U Rochester 8am-3:30pm Y Y could use improvement. Didactics seem kinda hit-or-miss Epic No
Westchester
Y (can be year? PD is enthusiastic and down to earth, very receptive to are streamed from Zucker Hillside. They are just starting to reason to suspect any toxicity. Port Jeff is a quaint little area. // I sandwiches, in the
Zucker-Mather Hospital 9:15-2ish N day of) feedback and making things happen for their residents. get psych specific grand rounds. second the above. Very nice program. Epic residents lounge.
Ohio NEOMED Y Y
Case Western-MetroHealth Y N
Case Western-University Discount Y
Cleveland Clinic Foundation 7-4ish(listed as 530) Discount Y
Kettering Health Network
OSU N Y Epic $55/month direct depoNo
Riverside (OhioHealth) N N
U Cincinnati
U Toledo
Miami Valley Hospital, Case conference as 2 and beyond to help shape your interests in what you want to are not as updated. Very little forensics exposure. Only 1
Wright State U part of didactics day for the department Discount Y do career wise. fellowship, child/adolescent psych, currently.
Oklahoma Griffin Memorial
Oklahoma State
U Oklahoma
8:30-3:00 - breakfast, interview/tour, lunch Yes, the ethnically diverse patient populations, great bang for buck in a
U Oklahoma-Tulsa with residents, interview/tour Y night before growing Tulsa Forensics are weaker
lunch, and 30 min tour. So LOTS of Yes, the therapy training, residents seem happy, lower COL compared Way too many interviews (eight 30-minute interviews) but
Oregon Samaritan - Corvallis interviews, both with residents and attendings N night before to Portland, proximity to beautiful outdoors, cool college town not bad enough not to go
Oregon U N Yes
8-4: Starts at Einstein main campus, ends at
Pennsylvania Albert Einstein Belmont for a tour N N Cerner Yes
interviewing 50 people total out of almost
Allegheny Health Network 1200 applications so far n
Drexel N N
5 one on one interviews with PD, assoc PD, health care system with many job and leadership opportunties that. Rural environment seems kinda cut off from
Geisinger and faculty Y Y after graduating. everything around it. No fellowships.
Jefferson Y
Lake Erie COM N Y
Lehigh Valley 8am-1pm OR 10am-3pm N N Epic Yes
Penn State Y Y
St Luke's – Anderson N Y No call PGY-1 or 4
PDs, interviews with faculty & residents, tour, high patient volume and acquity, residents BUSY. Resident mix
Temple lunch, tour #2, wrap up N N of single and married/engaged with mostly the second Area is the GHETTO Therapy: heavy on psychodynamic if that's what you're in to
back-to-back, done by lunch (w/residents); in research (track or certificate), CHOP for Child; More details collegial. Philly housing is relatively affordable for a major urban
U Penn afternoon relaxed with tour by residents N Y on MS4 Impressions area. Don't need a car. EPIC
getting to know me as a person and help me succeed. It also
UPMC Discount Y doesn't hurt that the PD is extremely thoughtful and funny.
Wright Center
Pureto Rico Ponce Health Sciences University
U Puerto Rico
Rhode Island Brown/Butler
South Carolina Medical U South Carolina
with faculty/chief residents, lunch, tour, wrap
USC Greenville up Y Y
50% paid
USC Palmetto for Y
South Dakota U South Dakota Y Y
program? ETSU. Apparently 2 residents have quit a year prior that have already left the program but still), call schedule
Tennessee East Tennessee State University Y and their OBGYN program is on probation also..... 1st and 2nd year is on the heavy side
U Tennessee Y Y
Meharry Medical College N
stay with
Vanderbilt University residents Y
lunch, the early group had iv that am after the are energetic and happy. Opportunity to "fast track" into child. so many sites that you sometimes work at two in one day.
Texas Baylor presentation. do provide breakfast. N Y C/L fellowship starting. C/L at TCH is somewhat underdeveloped. Epic + CPRS generally at times but when at Methodist but otherwise no �
minutes, back to back with ~ 5 minute breaks. a diverse patient population, lots of experience, very busy PEC No ECT exposure, No VA, no TMS, limited psychotherapy, up to 16 patients per team<--- Per team? HAHA think per
JPS Health take place at the end of the day. Y Y and inpatient no child only adolescent, no fellowships. HIGH volume INTERN, but you become a god after a month Epic $9 day Yes free
day starts at 8:3- but IV takes place starting questions you have to ask! residents don't seem stressed out residents supplement their learning with the very lucrative
TAMU-Temple at 1 pm, about 20 min each, 3 total N Y overall, they def have time for hobbies and other stuff. moonlighting opportunities
Texas Tech-Lubbock N y
Texas Tech-Permian Basin N Y
Texas Tech-PLFSOM N N
you're interested in research. staff is warm and they're excited
UT Austin N to meet applicants. have lotsssss of electives available
held. There is one group interview with the appear very happy. Interview day is very relaxed, and faculty is Yes, you will get your
UT Houston Chairman. Y very excited to get to know the interviewees. err 5? Yes, food coupons parking pass validated.
UT Medical Branch Hospitals 8:15- 1 Y N epic
UT RGV N Y
UT San Antonio N Y
afternoon info session (mine was like an Y, night Tears welled up to the point where I had to dab them away, got the opposite impression. Seemed almost too chill 3rd Met no interns at dinner or during the second day. Residents
UT Southwestern advice session) with indicated area of interest N before which they were all chill with (apparently not unusual?). and 4th year) admitted that interns are too busy to meet with applicants.
UT Tyler N N
Utah U Utah Discount Y
Virginia EVMS Discount Y
LewisGale N N
More interviews. Another overview from like a lot. No comments on recent psych resident firings or < they will have a new psych ED opening October 2019 <<
UVA chairman N Y College town. Close to DC. Diverse resident group. an attending being put on probation. Thanks! Epic on-call meal vouchers you get 90/month towards parking which you can pocket if you don't use it
also amazing and the residents obviously adore the city and No current telepsych, but has the facilities. They said they
VCU Discount Y their program. are currently working on getting telepsych started up again.
Virginia Tech Carilion Y Y 9
if staying
Vermont U Vermont 8am - 4:15 >1 night N
didactics/process groups. Residents also get along very well schedule was heavy ("you get to stay up all night with your some racial tension regarding patient population of county
Washington U Washington 8am - 4ish N Y with each other. patients!!!!!") hospital vs. resident class On Call VA
interview question. Lunch with residents. Tour
Providence Sacred Heart with chief. Y N
Wisconsin MCW-Central Wisconsin Y N
interviews. Lunch with residents. Bus tour is also a good thing but I have mixed feelings about this
MCW-Milwaukee with chief. Y Y Low COL. Great work-life balance. People seem friendly. way of supervising) Varies across sNo
MCW-Northeastern Wisconsin Y N
U Wisconsin Y Y
Y (resident's
West Virginia Marshall University Discount house)
hard questions, laid back and low pressure, overworked. Lots of addiction exposure. Well-funded program is great, but she reflected really poorly on it 2 months of night 500-600 every 6
WVU 30 min tour of facilities Y Y department unfortunately float during PGY2 Epic months Yes
WVU-Charleston
Rejections
State Program Total # # W7 Week 7 (10/29-11/4) # W8

Alabama U Alabama 0
U South Alabama 0
Arkansas U Arkansas for Medical Sciences 0
Unity Health-White County 7 7
Arizona Creighton/Maricopa Phoenix 2
U Arizona Phoenix 0
U Arizona Tucson 0
California Arrowhead Regional 0
California Pacific 0
Charles R Drew U 0
Kaiser Northern California-Oakland ###
Kaiser Northern California-San Jose 12 4
Kaiser Southern California 0
Kaweah Delta Health Care District 0
LAC+USC 9
Loma Linda University Health Educat 0
Los Angeles County-Harbor-UCLA 33 19 11/1
Olive View/UCLA 0
San Mateo County 26
Stanford 5 5
UC Davis 7 1 10/31 1
UC Irvine 0
UC Riverside 0
UCLA David Geffen/UCLA 0
UCLA-San Fernando Valley/VA Great 0
UCLA-Kern 0
UCSD 1 1
UCSF 0
UCSF/Fresno 0
Colorado U Colorado 45
Connecticut U Connecticut 0
Institute of Living/Hartford 0
Yale 0
District of Col George Washington University 0
Howard University 0
Georgetown 0
Saint Elizabeths Hospital-DC 0
Delaware Delaware Psychiatric Center 0
Christiana Care 0
Florida Aventura Hospital 0
Citrus Health Network 0
Community Health of South Florid 0
FAU 0
HCA West Florida/Largo 0
Jackson Health 0
Larkin Community Hospital 0
Memorial Healthcare-Hollywood 0
Mount Sinai of Florida 0
Orange Park 0
Palm Beach Consortium 0
U Central Florida 0
U Central Florida-Gainsville 0
U Florida 0
U Florida-Jacksonville 0
USF Morsani 0
Georgia Emory University 28 3
Morehouse 0
Medical College of Georgia 0
Coliseum Medical Center 0
Gateway Behavioral Health 0
Hawaii U Hawaii 0
Iowa Iowa Medical Education Collaborativ 0
UnityPoint Broadlawns 0
U Iowa 0
Illinois Advocate Lutheran 0
Carle Foundation Hospital 0
Loyola 0
Northwestern 0
Rosalind Franklin 0
Rush 0
Southern Illinois U 0
U Chicago 0
U Illinois-Chicago 1 1
U Illinois-Peoria 0
Indiana Community Health Network, Inc. 0
Indiana University 12
Indiana University-Vincennes 0
Kansas U Kansas 0
U Kansas-Wichita 0
Kentucky U Kentucky-Bowling Green 0
U Kentucky College of Medicine 0
U Louisville 0
Louisiana Louisiana State University 14 1
Louisiana State University/Ochsner C 3 1
Tulane University 0
Louisiana State University (Shrevepor ###
MassachusettsBerkshire Medical Center 0
BI Deaconness 1 1
Brigham and Women's 0
BU 2 2
Cambridge Health Alliance 4 4 11/1
Harvard South Shore 0
MGH/McLean 1 1
St Elizabeth's 0
Tufts 15 1
U Massachusetts 15 15
UMMS-Baystate 12
Maryland Johns Hopkins University 0
U Maryland/Sheppard Pratt 0
Maine Maine 0
Michigan Central Michigan University 0
Detroit /Wayne State 13
Detroit Authority Health 0
Henry Ford Allegiance Health 0
Henry Ford Hospital/Wayne State 0
Michigan State U 0
Pine Rest Christian Mental Health 0
St Mary Mercy Hospital 0
U Michigan 0
WMed 0
Minnesota Hennepin County Hospital 1
U Minnesota 0
Mayo Clinic Rochester 3
Missouri KCU/Ozark Center 0
St Louis University 0
U Missouri-Columbia 0
U Missouri-Kansas City 7 5
WashU/B-JH/SLCH 48
Mississippi U Mississippi 0
North Carolina Campbell 0
Carolinas 0
Duke 1 1
Mountain Area Health 0
UNC 0
Vidant/East Carolina U 0
Wake Forest U 0
North Dakota U North Dakota 0
Nebraska Creighton University 8
New HampshireMary Hitchcock Memorial Hospital/D 0
New Jersey Cooper 0
Jersey Shore U 0
New Bridge 12 11 10/30 1
Ocean 0
Rowan/Jefferson/Lourdes 1 1
Rutgers NJMS 0
Rutgers NJMS/Trinitas 2 1
Rutgers RWJMS 0
New Mexico U New Mexico 0
Nevada UNLV 0
U Nevada Reno 1
New York Albany 0
Arnot Ogden 0
Bronx-Lebanon 0
Brookdale U 0
Creedmore 0
Harlem Hospital 0
Hofstra-Staten Island 0
Hofstra-Zucker Hillside 1 1
Interfaith 0
Jamaica Hospital 0
Lincoln Medical 0
Maimonides 0
Montefiore 0
Mt Sinai 34 2
Mt Sinai-Beth Israel 0
Mt Sinai-Elmhurst 0
Mt Sinai-St Lukes 1 1
Nassau University 0
NYCOMEC 0
NYMC-Metropolitan 0
NYP Columbia 29 25
NYP Cornell 0
NYU 0
Richmond U 0
St Barnabas Hospital 0
St. John's-South Shore 0
Stony Brook 0
SUNY Brooklyn 0
SUNY Upstate 1 1
U Buffalo 1 1
U Rochester 0
Westchester 0
Zucker-Mather Hospital 0
Ohio NEOMED 2
Case Western-MetroHealth 0
Case Western-University 8
Cleveland Clinic Foundation 0
Kettering Health Network 0
OSU 3 2 11/2 1
Riverside (OhioHealth) 0
U Cincinnati 1
U Toledo 2 1
Wright State U 0
Oklahoma Griffin Memorial 0
Oklahoma State 0
U Oklahoma 0
U Oklahoma-Tulsa 0
Oregon Samaritan - Corvallis 5 5
Oregon U 4
Pennsylvania Albert Einstein 1 1
Allegheny Health Network 1
Drexel 0
Geisinger 0
Jefferson 0
Lake Erie COM 0
Lehigh Valley 0
Penn State 0
St Luke's – Anderson 0
Temple 0
U Penn 0
UPMC 0
Wright Center 0
Pureto Rico Ponce Health Sciences University 0
U Puerto Rico 0
Rhode Island Brown/Butler 9 1
South Carolina Medical U South Carolina 0
USC Greenville 0
USC Palmetto 0
South Dakota U South Dakota 0
Tennessee East Tennessee State University 0
U Tennessee 9
Meharry Medical College 0
Vanderbilt University 0
Texas Baylor 0
JPS Health 0
TAMU-Temple 0
Texas Tech-Lubbock 0
Texas Tech-Permian Basin 0
Texas Tech-PLFSOM 0
UT Austin 0
UT Houston 0
UT Medical Branch Hospitals 0
UT RGV 0
UT San Antonio 27 27
UT Southwestern 2
UT Tyler 0
Utah U Utah 20 20
Virginia EVMS 0
LewisGale 0
UVA 0
VCU 0
Virginia Tech Carilion 0
Vermont U Vermont 0
Washington U Washington 63 40 11/1, 11/2 (rejection day 20
Providence Sacred Heart 3
Wisconsin MCW-Central Wisconsin 0
MCW-Milwaukee 2
MCW-Northeastern Wisconsin 0
U Wisconsin 6
West Virginia Marshall University 0
WVU 0
WVU-Charleston 0
Week 8 (11/5-onward)
11/12 (polite rejection LOL - they are full)
11/13
11/14
11/7
11/14
11/8
11/5
11/13
11/14
11/13
11/13
11/5, 11/11
11/19
11/5 (rejection day)
11/5
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Either away rotators or home rotators.
Positive
stay if that's what they want. If you love being on the coast, you
are very close to the beach/bay. Very low cost of living!
few programs in CA with higher pay to compensate for higher

CoL.
ict (KDHCD)
moonlighting opportunity, graduates are highly sought after given
the diverse
second yearclinical exposurecontinuity
with caseload they recieve
until graduation. Optional
rotations in fourth year at Semel UCLA.
Greater Los Angeles
living conditions: renting, buying etc. Happy to answer questions,

just ask in the comment section
State psych hospital with long-term patients with some of the
most severe psych pathology, great support staff, residents very
positive about changes to program with new program director --
better rotations, listens to feedback, etc.
Florida (CHI)
New program 2 years old. IMG heavy. Awesome staff. Great PD.
Modern facility. Large variety of patients.
find a niche at Emory in whatever aspect of psychiatry that you're

interested
psych in. moonlighting
fellowship very soon.available starting go
Many residents PGY2
on to fellowship at
other institutions as of now.
ner Clinic Foundation
specific to different disorders (trauma, psychotic, eating, etc),

many fellowship opportunities
psychiatry fellowship. Very friendly faculty and residents. Very
receptive
hawthorne,to feedback from residents
-work at VA
Chill schedule, no weekends or call in psych PGY-1
-like DMC, diverse patient population

home call
home call, amazing facility
Great attendings; residents were awesome as well
emergency room, busy consult service allows for interesting

medical comorbidities
There’s perhaps a more casual feel among residents here than at
some
psych other programs,
program. MS is abut most
poor residents
state so you seem reallyofhappy.
see some the worst
pathology.
competent clinicians, low COL, beautiful location for those

interested in outdoorsy activities
different patient populations (think cherry hill vs. camden). Plenty

of teaching opportunities to work with Rowan medical students.
Happy residents, large program, reasonable call, super nice
faculty, residents and staff
Happy residents. Lots of supervision. Easy hours. Easy cost of

living.
elective options, excellent choice if wanting to do Peds or

interested in Consultation/Liaison.
together. Home call. Great cost of living. Excellent child

fellowship program.
own office and schedule their outpatients during PGY3-4 on their

own
needs and levels of acuity. Any questions, just ask them here and
I'm happy to answer in the comments box!
safety net inpatient psych unit (Rhode Island Hospital) that

includes geriatric psych and C-L. VA psych also in Providence.
little call responsibilities 3rd year and none 4th year, residents go
one to fellowships, private, and academic practice
quality. Psych ER at Ben Taub is excellent. Attendings are

generally chill. Residents seem happy.
Institute) which is one of the largest free-standing psychiatric

hospitals in the country.
which was a bonus! The program seems to truly care about the
well-being of their residents too.
Negative
growth, culture, and politics but that's just my personal opinion.
Plenty of other people love it down here.
kinda small and old but much of residency is to be spent

elsewhere, e.g. Kaiser Santa Clara.
hospitals on call (mostly 1st and 2nd years), desert feel (negative
for
No me),
handdidactics
holding. are so-so
Infrastructure falling apart (<- lol). County-
program scut.
intern year hours might be on the longer side depending on the

rotations, but the hours are of high quality and enjoyable
Didactics seem very hit-or-miss, program is primarily IMGs (plus
or minus depending) with a few exceptions, limited to no ECT
exposure.
Emory. There is some research going on, but not much from what
I can tell.
Peoria?
Heavy workload especially PGY2, Baltimore is not everyone's
favorite city
-newer program,Livonia
plus Hawthorn, outdated website
clinic, other psychotherapy clinics, etc,
-possible issues with DMC owner Tenet
need to be more self-guided in learning
brand
-no VAnew program?
hospital connection like DMC, 2 months night float in PGY-
2
too laid back, possibly not enough patients for good training
unless you're proactive
Heavy requirement fourth year nochill, resident led didactics

work hard
-newer program
not be for some people, not much patient diversity

faculty due to recent losses of some key faculty. Didactics appear
to be so-so although PD is attempting to improved it.
Newer program
May be too rural for some
for a psychiatry program, interns will do 24h medicine call during

off service rotations. No moonlighting.
Do admit they usually take many applicants from Columbia
medical school and other Ivy leage schools
Too much supervision at times.
attendings can be rough to deal with and residents do complain at

times
The name speaks for itself

expensive to live close to the hospital, but good housing can be
found if you're willing to drive an extra 15 minutes in the AM.
Long
Have hours, limiteda research
to complete 2 years master in medical education. Call is
present throughout all 4 years.
have already left the program but still), call schedule 1st and 2nd
year is on the heavy side
some time now and its reputation overall (not Psych GME) has
slipped. Complete overhaul of leadership in the past few years.
C/L rotation for PGY2. They are working on new crisis rotation for
PGY2 and should have C/L up an running again by next year.
they are lacking in number. The faculty truly do look out for the
residents and I found this to be true while rotating there as well.
Comments
emphasis on incorporating spiritual care into practice,

Spanish speaking population
chance of walking into Brett Kavanaugh << lol

No inpatient unit at primary medical center.
current residents and psychiatrists to avoid this program

bc it's a lot of work.
First year of rural track
rigourous program, great education and learning,

out. Got to interview there and felt comfortable with
faculty and residents.
GTL
^ I am requiring that they take a 3 hour test on me as an test? ethical thank you but
applicant before I invite them to test me.<< lol situation? no thank you
Lots of IMGs, State-run psych hospital
Moonlighting is overnight call at the crisis center, pays heavy school in developed at
~$900 a night, I think. Pennsylvania? Penn (next cell)
schools in the
state. < THANKS!
Program Date Scheduled Preferred Date
Boston University 1/12 Nov or Dec
Beth Israel 1/31 11/15-11/6, 12/17-12/21
Mass General 1/23 12/17-12/21
Icahn St Lukes 1/15 Nov or Dec
San Mateo 1/15 Late Nov-December
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WashU 1/11 date!!!
Brigham and Women's 1/11 12/7, 12/4
Loma Linda 12/03 12/17

Zucker/Hillside 12/21 1/11
UMICH 1/18 1/25 or 12/7
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Midwest Mid MD 195 213 54
Midwest Low MD 197 Post-ERAS 36
Midwest Top 10 MD 198 252 84
DIF MD 201 213 49
zaets4053 South Mid MD 202 226 N/A N/A 56
333 South Midtier MD 204 237 50
South mid/low MD 204 238 59
southeast MD 204 218 41
Italy FMG 204 224 89
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South Midtier MD 205 233 40
KOSA Non-Carib USIMG 205 Post ERAS 109
couldbesarc Carib USIMG 206 215 170
West Top 20 MD 207 212 58
Midwest MD 208 212 50
YesMan South Mid/Low MD 208 227 46
thisisnotky South Mid MD 208 243 85
lewebbed NE/SE bottom thiDO 208 485 468 199
Psychdreams Midwest MD 208 232 N/A N/A 63
West Top 10 DO 208 212 541 466 200
bradfordbb Midatlantic Top 20 MD 208 248 86
Southwest Mid MD 209 221 72
Sol Non-Carib USIMG 209 250 210
Northeast Mid MD 210 260 25
Southeast Mid MD 212 238 85
calvinball_experNortheast Low MD 212 232 60
rando Northeast Carrib 212 214 180
X Midwest middle MD 212 238 57
South mid/low MD 213 242 58
Gulab Carib mid-carib USIMG 213 227 57
South Mid MD 213 262 31
Midwest Low MD 213 229 72
bss Northeast Lowtier MD 215 222 54
mar South idk MD 215 Post ERAS --> 222 74
Northeast mid/low MD 215 229 48
deathville South low MD 216 229 70
lyndygirl9889 Midwest Top 40 MD 217 236 64
South Top 20 MD 217 241 35
Northeast low DO 217 95
mewis Midwest low DO 217 none 644 592 28
South CentraLow tier MD 218 230 67
Northeast DO 218 none 600 44
Northeast Mid/top MD 218 216 42
mgr South MD 218 246 80
US-IMG MD 218 217 60
abcd Midatlantic Mid MD 218 230 30
HELLO Midwest idk MD 218 210 40
acd South Mid MD 218 241 50
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US Mainland DO 220 230 440 475 150
Hopper West Mid/Low MD 220 258 85
Southeast Midtier MD 221 243 47
West Mid MD 222 224 59
ayylmao Midwest Mid MD 223 250 41
South MD 223 241 78
Top 30 MD 223 252 38
giggglesngrins South Top 20 MD 223 240 40
macaronicheesesSouthwest MD 224 235 41
Katty_Buns Midwest NOT in t MD 224 235 107
South Lowtier? MD 225 231 40
Midwest Mid MD 225 post eras 19
PuddingbrainnatNortheast Low MD 225 238 35
Southeast Top 30 MD 225 245 17
Northeast DO 226 236 669 660 52
StopChanginMyS Midwest Top 30 MD 226 241 17
South MD 226 246 34
Northeast DO 227 239 629 632 112
BEL Carib Low? USIMG 227 239 N/A N/A 132
Pumpkin South Mid MD 228 244 28
Habro West Mid MD 228 231 60
AnnieM West Mid MD 229 234 40
South Low-middMD 229 238 41
South Low? MD 229 258 15
PoPr West ? MD 229 226 74
Midwest No DO 230 229 538 540 30
ineedaxanax West Mid? MD 230 na 48
ulnawannabewitMidwest Mid MD 231 248 40
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Northeast Top 10 MD 231 18
l Non-Carib USIMG 233 251 137
Non-Carib Midtier USIMG 233 246 116
Phi_Slam_Paja Midwest Mid MD 233 224 47
Northeast Mid/low MD 233 250 36
Zuko Southeast Mid MD 233 247 33
baabaa West Top 50 MD 233 238 30
mj Midwest Mid MD 233 251 33
West 0 tier DO 234 236 559 573 114
Midatlantic Top 10 DO 234 245 630 680 64
Southeast Midtier MD 235 256 52
West Top 40 MD 235 Post-ERAS 115
helloo West middle DO 235 231 580 535 180
B_T West MD/PhD 235 242 58
anon southest low MD 236 227 60
t Southeast Lowtier MD 237 227 69
Southeast Low MD 237 256 38
Corndog Southeast Mid MD 237 250 30
N/A Midwest Middle-hi MD 238 253 MD/PhD Applicant 14
SSSSSSS Southwest MD 238 232 MD/PhD Applicant 46
jumpsticks Southeast Low MD 239 211 43
docbananas Northeast top 40% MD 239 250 43
Southwest Midtier 240 255 8
West No tier DO 240 248 660 612 106
Midwest MD 240 252 39
UTMC west Top50 MD 240 Post EraNA NA 50
South Top 20 MD 240 260 25
Southeast Low DO 241 726 623 f
Carib USIMG 241 248 118
RWC Northeast Top 20 MD 241 258 30
South Lowtier MD 242 253 50
jjjsss West low MD 242 244 44
Non-Carib ? MBBS PhD 242 262 130
RJM Northeast Top 40 MD 243 244 n/a n/a 25
South Midtier MD 244 262 28
North East Mid? MD 244 266 30
West DO 244 261 62
Midwest Mid DO 245 244 709 702 26
Northeast Top 20 MD 245 255 15
Northeast Low MD 245 235 35
West Mid/low MD 245 253 30
Anon_psych Northeast Top 20 MD 245 250 40
Brozac11 West Low MD 246 249 34
Northeast Midtier MD 247 256 50
South middle MD 247 252 34
LJ Northeast Top 50 MD 250 262 28
Midwest mid MD 250 25
Southeast Low? MD 250 233 25
Midwest Top 20 MD 252 Post-ERAS 17
mmspicy Northeast Low MD 252 244 46
ids1 West Mid MD 253 252 66
West Top 40 MD 253 259 63
YoMama South mid/low MD 256 262 47
Vy Midwest Mid MD 256 243 30
Northeast Top 20 MD 259 Post-ERAS 18
Midwest Mid (I thinMD 260 270 32
Northeast Lowtier MD 267 265 29
midwest 0 DO none none 740 840 38
anonpsychmousUS MainlandLow? DO none none 407 Post-ERA 226
Midwest Top 40 DO None None 573 550 29
South Mid DO None None 480 473 103
Midwest Mid DO None None 521 449 56
Sam C Northeast Mid DO None/SooNone 475 Post-ERA 178
Katty_Buns
Midwest top 50% DO 480 488 58
North East Low DO 484 520 96
Midatlantic Low DO 488 449 100
gloryva Northeast Mid DO 480 520 100
Midwest good DO 480 520 94
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Northeast Top 10 MD 204 240 31
West Mid DO 510 503 65
Northeast Top 1/3rdMD 224 253 31
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Southeast mid/low MD 197 223 41
South Low MD 248 262 11
South Low DO 436 481 237
carib usimg MD 202 216 80
So-America NonUS-IM 251 266 91
South Low DO 229 604 672 43
southwest low MD 198 221 70
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1 3.23
2 3.70
8 22.22
13 8 15.48 11/13 Home + 4 Midwest + 4 NE + 4
10 2 20.41 10/15 3 Midwest (2 home state) + 1
9 3 16.07 10/29 Home + 2 SE + 2 Atlantic + 3 NE
14 2 Declined 2 28.00 11/5 home + 4 regional + 6 south + 3 midwest
11 3 18.64 11/14 7 south
home ++43 midwest
region +1+ 1 east
south +1
8 1 19.50 10/25 Midwest + 1 west
8 6 8.99 11/8 8 NE
3 3 4.48 home+regional+east
9 1 22.50 11/5
2 1.83 2 south
2 12 0 1.18 11/4 NY + FL(from LOI)
11 6 18.97 6 west + 5 midwest
2 4.00
12 6 26.09 home + 5 south + 2 midwest + 2 NE + 2 West
13 15.29 home + 3 south + 5 midwest
20 10.05
13 20.63 10/13 home+8 midwest+2 East Coast
15 5 7.50 10/31
27 Withdraw 3 31.40 10/28 Withdraw some please
8 4 11.11
6 27 2.86 11/16 1 midwest+ 5 east coast
8 26.67 10/11
15 60.00 10/27 home + regional-ish (only applied regional)
6 4 7.06 10/18
7 11.67 10/30 4 west + 2 south + 1 NE
0 0.00
7 12.28 10/26
13 3 2 22.41 regional + 1 NE,
2 1 3.51 1 midwest+1 Florida, 1 waitlist
10 32.26
2 3 0 2.78 10/12
7 4 12.96 11/8
13 9 10.66 11/8 2 Home + 4 Region + 7 Outside
7 2 8.11 11/19 3 Texas (home state), 2 Louisiana, 1 Florida
18 37.50 Regional + 8 outside
11 15.71 Regional, family area
28 Withdraw Declined
s 14 43.75 Regional, family/undergrad/work connections
10 28.57
2 2.11 11/16
4 14.29
12 6 21.82 11/14 Regional + 4 NE + 1 West + 1 SE
12 4 1 17.91 11/19 2 home state + 3 NE (2 w/ child tracks) + 1 SE + 1 mid
18 2 3 40.91 11/25 6 home state + 3 regional + res
13 4 30.95 11/13 3 NE + 2 home + 3 cali
21 5 40 26.25 11/10
0 0.00
7 2 23.33 11/13 home + 3 NE + regional (sent love letter to 2 programs
12 30.00 11/4 regional
15 30.00
22 6 4 36.07 11/13 regional + 2NE + 1NYC + 6SE + 2CA
8 13.33
11 7.33
34 3 13 40.00 11/12 Regional, Midwest, NC, NE
11 23.40 Southeast + home
6 10.17
14 6 1 34.15 11/23
27 6 Declined 6, 34.62 11/21 Withdraw some please
9 23.68 10/21 home+regional
16 1 40.00 10/16 home+ 10 regional + 3 + 2 joint programs
6 14.63 4 Texas (home) + OU
16 5 Withdraw s 14.95 11/07//20 midwest+southeast+northeast, 14 IV overall
20 1 4 40.00
6 31.58
8 2 1 22.86 11/9
4 23.53 10/10 home + northeast
16 3 1 39.02 11/6 home + south
12 3 23.08
10 1 2 58.82 11/12 Home program + 9 northeast (1WL)
3 8.82 home + 2 regional
0 0.00
21 Withdraw some pleas 18.75
14 10.61 North East+1MidWest+1South
6 21.43
5 8.33
6 2 33.33
9 2 22.50 3 home state + 1 NW + 1 Midwest + 3 SE + 1 SW
10 1 24.39 5 home state + 1 SE + 1 NE
16 3 5 39.02
7 46.67 10/22 6 in south and 1 in NE
9 1 12.16 10/16 home + 5 W + 3 NE
17 2 5 42.50
12 1 40.00 10/25 MW + SW
7 14.58 10/15 West, NE, South
16 1 2 40.00 10/29 Midwest
22 4 4 26.19 11/22 10 Midwest, 7NE, 2 west, 3 so
3 16.67
9 8 6.57 11/18 3 NE + 3 SE + 3 Midwest + 1wai
0 0.00
11 4 23.40 11/20 6 west + 2 midwest + 3 north east
19 2 52.78 11/13
0
20 8 + 8 IV dec66.67 11/20 8 regional + 6 NE + 4 South +
17 1 51.52 11/13 1 WL
9 7.89 11/16 3 more waitlisted
2 3.13
6 11.54
7 10 6.09 11/20
10 0.00
2 3.45
1 1.67
10 10 14.49 11/14 Home + 3 south (1 waitlist) + t
16 1 1 42.11 11/20 8 Regional, 6 NE, 2 Midwest
7 23.33 1 regional, 4 home state
18 Withdrawn some plea 24.32 7 regional, 8 home, 1 NE
10 71.43
8 2 17.39
8 18.60
12 1 27.91 10/29
20 47.62
14 1 4 30.43 10/19 7 Midwest, 3 NE, 2 West, 2 So
0 0.00
20 Withdrawn 1 18.87 10/16 All over; 5 west coast
0 0.00
6 12.00 From Mountain west, 2 west coast, 2 mountain west, 1
16 9 64.00 10/30
8 #VALUE!
14 43.75 11/2
0 0.00
14 3 3 46.67 10 SE, 4 NE
17 Withdrawn 1 56.67
6 12.00 (TX resident) TT Lubbock, UT Houston, Tufts, UT Dell
14 3 31.82 11/14
6 4.62 TTU Lubbock (9/21), SUNY Upstate (9/19),UToledo(10/2)
13 1 52.00 10/24
16 57.14 11/19 Southeast + Mid-Atlantic + NE
14 46.67
7 11.29
8 2 1 30.77
9 60.00 10/18
5 14.29 10/26
1 3.33
15 37.50
3 8.82
21 10 42.00 10/25
19 3 5 55.88 11/15
21 38.00 10/17
17 60.71 11/19
20 80.00
14 2 1 56.00 11/13
15 88.24 10/24
17 1 36.96 11/5
17 4 3 25.76 11/26
2 3.17
8 17.78
16 4 34.04 home + 6 NE + 5 south + 2 Midwest + 2 West
10 1 33.33 10/20
9 3 50.00 11/13 Coastal
18 56.25
25 1 3 86.21
13 43.33 10/11
22 15 57.89 10/24
2 28 0 0.88 11/12
12 41.38 11/11
2 1.94 Home state, 1 away rotation
7 1 0 12.50 10/11
16 10 2 8.99 11/27
6 2 10.34 11/19
13 13.54 10/16 Audition x 2, rest regional, waitlist midwest
15 1 1 15.00 10/26
14 1 14.00 11/22 Home hospital + 6 Regional +
22 3 4 23.40 11/10 Almost all regional except 4. Many in home state.
7 15 0 16.28 10/15 2 home, 3 regional, 1 NY, 1 DC
13 38.24
2 5 2.15 11/17
15 1 4 48.39 10/17
8 6 12.31 11/11 3 in and neighboring states, 3 MW for 4 tracks 1 E
10 2 28.57 10/21 2 home, 6 regional, 1 SW, 1 NE
20 1 80.00 11/11 18 CA(Home state) 2 close by West Coast State
9 1 10/24
7 1 10.77 10/28
26 0 9 11/14
9 1 11/4
6 1 11/9 1 AR, 1 OR, 1 TX, 1 TN, 1 NC, 1 KS
2 20 11/11
5 1 11/15
7 7 11/17 2 FL, 3 NY, 1 DC, 1 OH
7 10 16.28 11/19 3 MS, 1 AZ, 1 OH, 1 WV, 1 VA
3 5 0 11/19 2home, 1 MA
10.77095 17.77547
Extra Applicant Information
Interviews Attended AOA GHHS IM Honors Psych HonSub-I Honors Class Rank
lol no no no no 4th
no no no no no 3rd
no no no yes n/a unknown
4 No No No No Yes NR (lowest-thi
1
tlantic + 3 NE no no n/a n/a n/a bottom quartil
+ 6 south + 3 midwest No No 4th Quartile
2 no no no no 3rd quartile
1 No No No No No 4th quartile
1 No No No
no no no n not sure 4th quart
4 No No No Yes N/A 3rd Quartile
N/A N/A Yes Yes N/A 1st Quartile
no no no yes yes 3rd Q
no no no no no 4th quartile
No No No Yes N/A 2nd Quartile
2 midwest + 2 NE + 2 West no no no yes n/a 4th
no no no yes
yes no yes bottom third
2 No No No Yes N/A Not Ranked
no no No yes no 4th
3 no no no Yes no
no no no no 4th quartile
1 No No No Yes N/A 1st 3rd
ha yes ha no yes 4th quartile
h (only applied regional) no no yes yes n/a 2nd quartile
no no no no yes 4th Quart
No No No Yes Yes 2nd Quartile
no no no yes yes lower
no no no no N/A
no no no yes n/a unk
No No No No NA
no no no no yes 3rd Quartile
n + 7 Outside No No No Yes Yes 4th
e), 2 Louisiana, 1 Florida no no no no n/a not sure/low
no no no no no 50th
No no no yes yes 4th quartile
dergrad/work connections no no no no yes not sure
no yes no yes yes Not sure
no no no no no 4th
1 West + 1 SE No No No Yes Yes 4th quartile

E (2 w/ child tracks) + 1 SE + 1 midno no no yes yes? 4th quartile
9 no no no TBA
No Yes No Yes n/a
no no no yes N/A Unsure
ional (sent love letter to 2 programsno no no no yes 4th quartile p

No No No Yes No 3rd Quartile
no no no no tba 3rd quartile
NYC + 6SE + 2CA no yes yes yes yes 3rd quartile
yes no
no no no yes N/a 2nd Quartile

no no no n/a 4th quintile
no no no no yes 2nd quartile

8 No No No No N/a pass/fail
no no yes no yes 3rd quartile
+ 3 + 2 joint programs no yes no no no
No No Yes Yes TBA 4th Quatrile
+northeast, 14 IV overall No No No Yes Yes
no no no no N/A 4th Quartile
no no no yes yes
no no no yes yes 3rd quintile
No No No Yes Yes idk
no no no yes n/a 2nd
northeast (1WL) no no yes yes yes 2nd quartile

no no no yes 3rd quartile
no no no yes yes 3rd Quartile
est+1South no no Yes Yes Yes 1st in class

No No No No n/a 3rd quartile
no no no no n/a 3rd Quartile
No No No Yes Yes 2nd quartile
W + 1 Midwest + 3 SE + 1 SW Ha! no no n/a 3rd Quartile
N N N Y N/A 2nd
No No Yes Yes Yes
home program no no no no n/a 2nd quartile
no no no yes yes pass/fail
No No No No Yes 3rd Quartile
No No No No N/A 4th
no no no yes na 2nd quartile
No No No Yes Yes 4th Quintile
6 N/A no yes yes yes 1st quintile
5 N/A No No No n/a 2nd Quartile

No no No No 2nd Quartile
+ 3 north east No No No No Yes 2nd quintile
No No Yes Yes 2nd quintile
No No No No Yes 4th
5 of 12 No No Yes Yes Yes Middle
No No No No Yes Unknown
4 LOL Yes Yes Yes Yes 3rd Quartile
no no yes yes 2nd Quartile

no no no yes no 2nd Quartile
no unknown
2 No No Yes Yes Yes 3rd Quartile
No No Yes Yes Yes 1st quartile
N N N Y N/A 3rd
2 No No No Yes N/A 3rd quartile
No No Yes N/A middle
no ? no no n/a n/a
no yes no yes yes

3 No Yes No Yes Yes 4th Quartile
No No Yes N/A 2nd Quintile
No No Yes No Yes 2nd quintile
yes yes no yes N/A Not ranked
st, 2 west coast, 2 mountain west, 1no no yes yes yes 2nd quartile
yes yes yes yes yes n/a
No Yes NA NA NA 1st Quartile
3 No Yes No Yes Yes 3rd Quartile
no no yes no yes 2nd
yes no yes yes N/A 1st quartile
no no no yes n/a 1st quartile
ubbock, UT Houston, Tufts, UT Dell no no yes no n/a 2nd quartile
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Not sure
), SUNY Upstate (9/19),UToledo(10/2)
no yes no no n/a 2nd quartile
lantic + NE No Yes N/A 2nd Quartile
no no no yes yes 2nd Quintile
no no no Yes Yes 1st quartile

5 No No Yes Yes Yes
No No No No Yes 3rd Quartile
no No Yes yes n/a 2nd quartile

no no no Yes N/A Not sure
No No No Yes Yes 2nd Quartile
Will Attend 14 yes yes no yes n/a 1st quartile
no no n/a n/a n/a 1st quartile
No No No Yes Yes 1st Quartile
yes no yes yes yes 1st quartile
no no yes yes n/a 2nd quartile
3 yes no yes yes n/a 1st quartile
5 nah nope no yep YEP idk
will attend 14 No No No No n/a 1st quintile
no no Yes no n/a unknown
No Yes N/A N/A N/A 4th quartile
outh + 2 Midwest + 2 West Yes N/A Yes Yes N/A 1st Quartile
yes no yes yes n/a 1st quartile
3 No No Yes Yes Yes
yes no yes yes yes 1st quartile
4 Yes No Yes Yes Yes 1st Quartile
yes no no yes n/a 1st quartile
1st quartile
No No No No No Not sure?
Yes N/A N/A No N/A 4th quintile
no no yes yes not sure 2nd quartile
1 yes yes no no yes 2nd quartileis
2nd quartile
egional, waitlist midwest
no no N/A N/A, but A N/A 4th quartile
6 Yes Yes No Yes Yes 1st or 2nd quar
except 4. Many in home state. no no no yes n/a 4th quartile
2 no No No No N/a 4th quartile
no no no no yes 3rd quartile
1
#DIV/0!
No No No Yes Yes unknown
g states, 3 MW for 4 tracks 1 E No No No No 4th quartile
1 SW, 1 NE No No No Yes Yes 4th quartile
2 close by West Coast State No No No Yes Post App 2nd quartile
No No No No Yes Not sure
1 Yes No No No No 5th quartile
8 No No Yes Yes Yes 2nd quartile

no no n/a n/a n/a 4th quartile
1 TN, 1 NC, 1 KS
yes yes yes

1st quartile
1 SSP Yes 2nd quartile
1 no no no no yes 4th quartile
# Pubs/Pres # Volunteer # Work Red Flags? Comments
2 4 12 none
9 6 2 none 13 volunteer work experiences and great work
3 13 5 1 ethics, not 1/clerkship
Poor Step everything is about+scores
grades psych A**
LOA;hole
+2
5 8-14 4 2 yrs for MPH & research
o 15 2 0
4 6 5 None
9
1 4 4 Yes 2 step 1 failures, 2 LOAs, repeated biochemistry
42 1 3
0 5 2 bottom quart?couple matching
2 3 6 None
3 9 3 None
0 4 5 1 Do I have a chance?
3 6 8 none
0 1 2 1
3 7 6 None
0
2 12 7 board scores in general and don't want to take usmle 2...
3 10 4 0 Good luck everyone! See you on the interview trail!
3 6 3 low steps
11 7 1 failed/repeated
Do you seriously have 22 interviews scheduled?
^yo if you want to go to 22, go to 22 :) best of luck
1 4 9 1
7 10 3 low step 1
0 6 4
1 2 3 None
3 10 4 3
3 7 3 none
2 2 8 1 fail ck once
5 10 1 None
5 7 0 2
1 6 1 1 LOA very early first year bc I wanted a gap year (counting this a
1 10+ 4 no a bit surprised at how many offers I've gotten
4 4 2 none
13 11 3 none ivy league undergrad, research year in med school
3 10 1 none
0 3 1 4th quartile?
12 8 11 None
3 9 0 none Including Child Combined Tracks. 67 might have been on highe
none How did you get 18 interviews?? I'm in the same range but with
4 9 2 None
17 11 2 None Going on 17 interviews, rejected/withdrew from the rest.
1 3 4 none why doesn't anybody want meeee

1 9 1 updated 10/8
0 7 2 none
1 15 5 None applied late to 1/3 of programs
3 12 8 None
0 6 2 None ( I hope)
4 11 1 none
none Couples matching
4 8 0 none
1 12 4 0
2 7 5 None I applied to child combined tracks as well. Got an interview to o
1 8 0 none
4 11 1 none
12 3 3 none
4 none
10 5 5 No
2 7 2 none
0 2 4 No
0 2 0 0
5 3 2 0
4 7 7 1 Applying for second time, did not match first time a

2 7 1 none
4 7 3 2 Medical Leave, below average step
2 10 6 none
1 5 4 (denies)
4 10 5N
3 6 3 none
3 8 6 none couples matching
5 6 3 None
3 3 1 0
4 9 2 no
9 12 1 None
0 10 2 none
2 3 3 IMG, 2017 grwhat did you do to improve your profile for the second time aro
0 4 3 1 1x cs attempterino
2 7 6 dropped in CK
2 8 3 0
5 8 5 none
10 6 2 0
13 0
0 2 None y'all the avg score around here is biased af
0 5 5 None
3
8 6
3 5 1 None
2 6 3 None
8 2 5N
8 8 3 none One courtesy interview from away rotation
16 5 4 None, I hope Good luck!!!
17 2 6 none
none
5 8 5 None <Couples matching, partner Gen Surg. Anyone els
0 9 6 None
0 6 3 None
5 9 2 None
9 9 4 None
9 9 4 LOA just withdrew another II x3. hope these are gettin
0 8 1 0
14 10 3 None
0 5 3 0
1 12 6 none
11 7 2 none
3 1 1 none
3 11 3 None
old grad
5 13 4 none
2 6 1 None
3 2 3 none
0 4 3 none
2 3 3 None
4 4 2 None
6 7 2 None Couples matching

7 9 2 0
None
6 11 1
3 6 1 none
6 20 5 none
6 0 6 na
2 10 1 0 2 LORs came week late + Couple's matching. Applied on time

1 14 6 None
0 13 2 1 1 remidiation + Couples match

0 6 5 0
9 10 2 none
1 6 6 None you are killing it!
3 3 2 nah is the new derm
y did u withdraw from so many
4 10 3 1 failed step 1
0 17 4 0
5 18 5 maybe Very minor misdemeanor that was later dismissed and expung
0 7 8 1 Not having taken Level 2 yet, figured many places won't see m
10 3 2 1 failed step 1
1 18 2 none
2 11 13 0 Obviously, no Step. Wondering how much this will hurt me ove
12 3 2 1 remediation
1 10 4 1 1 remediation
4 3 3 0
Low step score, Visa, YOG 2016
4.221374046 3.53906
1 a lot a lot 0
2 3 3 0
2
0 10+ 5+ 0
6 5 0
4 5+ 3+ 1 1 yr gap in medical school
0
3 4 2 2 repeated first year, failed step 1
6 4 2 repeated ck. gap

3 2 3 Require visa YOG 2016, Just passed Step 3 with 24*
9 6 2 None This season is weird
0 5 5 none Couples match
< Don't be a everyone like or a 257! Keep giving me <<proud of you
dick. me hope it up! hope. dude!
< Congrats on the success! What's youir connection if any to WaI did a SubI there and have family in STL
< how the f* do you have 42 pub<lol I thought the same but wasn't going to ask haha I love you people
give up hope! went to MD

see row 7 school tho also perhaps consider other specialty just in cas try to write to
^ honestly its too late for that. plus I'd be miserable at FM. maybe ok with IM, but I
<< yeeeeee!
Yup. They're all at places I could see myself at.. You need to see yourself at less places.
^ yea but are you really going to go on 22 interv ^ second this
ap year (counting this as red flag)

Congrats on many invites. Impressive!
Do you seriously have 22 interviews scheduled? <best
<- of luck on your interviews! If you want to go to 22, go for it :)
ight have been on higher end if I had focused more on moderately competitive places, but I shot for the stars and tried my han
the same range but with 2 invites
ew from the rest.
< you are getting some love. keep up those love letters
ell. Got an interview to one thus far.
< 132 programs.what did you do First time I applied VERY narrowly, I wanted to be in a specific region that is very c
^ I also would like to see this response
partner going support group psych/gen surg
into? <gen surg, hbu?jk support group!
for the second time around? asking as a USIMG who has 0 <<<
in This is my first time applying
<<like :) Why do you think you only have 6 interviews? Did you apply to all competitive places? Getting nerv
<< I am! Partner <<Same to you! <<I'm the weakerI am, partner is << omg my partne
< I'm not the only one! No intervie
<< thank you for<<so kind of you to say, thanks. really proud to be part of this community
tching. Applied on time tho.
<< thanks! (: dude come on, 21 You are seriously going to 22 interviews? <<Definitely not.
< ha, yes! << discussed on<<<who cares it'Totally true. Mil << the vast majority of us are millenials so kind of
< felt it was not fair
<< what
to committees
a nice th<ditto
/ other applicants to keep some applications in that I could not realistically attend
dismissed and expunged. Not sure if this is why my low IV. Any ideas? How did you repo
Reported it as a
any places won't see me til I do (I got really sick so I had to push it back)
uch this will hurt me overall
applicant is a
male :) <<Dude is basically a gender-neutral term these days... source: female med student who is a "dude
d have family in STL
love you people
< will be sending on monday

FM. maybe ok with IM, but I think at this point I'd prefer a year off to re-aply to psych vs IM.
<< Seriously. Seeing people with 20+ scheduled interviews while others have <5 just feels so wrong. I got invites in
u want to go to 22, go for it :)
or the stars and tried my hand at loads of top places, in addition to my favorite mid- and lower-tier programs. 2 ii's from love let
a specific region that is very competitive. This time I applied to many more programs and broadened my geographic region. I am
into you on the
trail!
mpetitive places? Getting nervous here as a fellow applicant!
not the only one! No interviews yet for them and it's STRESSING ME OUT
efinitely not.
of us are millenials so kind of an obnoxious comment
Have a similar hi<<Understood. But I reported it as a conviction on ERAS and explained it away in the comments. W
e med student who is a "dude"
eels so wrong. I got invites in the mid teens and still canceled a few to give others a chance.
r programs. 2 ii's from love letters, 1 ii from sub-i (I was told my scores were below cutoff but that a sub-i could potentially get m
ed my geographic region. I am doing research and have all new LORs from US docs.
ed it away in the comments. Wondering if I am automatically getting screened out. Not worried about the licensing part; I'll be fin
a sub-i could potentially get me past that). I've been very pleased, hearing from almost all of my favorite programs! I'm also a bi
out the licensing part; I'll be fine.
avorite programs! I'm also a bit mystified that I've gotten so few in my region! It's a wild ride.
12
10
6 Column E
Column M
0
190 200 210 220 230 240 250 260 270 280
Median 227 191 0
Mode 218 201 4

191 68 Region School Rank Degree
West Top 10 DO
201 128 NE/SE bottom third DO
Northeast low DO
South low DO
Northeast DO
US Mainland DO
Northeast DO
Northeast DO
Midwest No DO
Midwest high for a DO? loDO
Midatlantic Top 10 DO
West 0 tier DO
West middle DO
West No tier DO
Southeast Low DO
West DO
Midwest Mid DO
MD = 1 Step 1 Step 2 # Apps # Invites % Yield
0 208 212 200 8 4.00
0 208 199 13 6.53
0 217 95 0 0.00
0 217 none 28 3 10.71
0 218 none 47 11 23.40
0 220 230 100 4 4.00
0 226 236 52 1 1.92
0 227 239 112 9 8.04
0 230 229 30 9 30.00
0 231 256 84 5 5.95
0 234 245 64 2 3.13
0 234 236 90 3 3.33
0 235 231 180 5 2.78
0 240 248 106 4 3.77
0 241 26 0 0.00
0 244 261 62 2 3.23
0 245 244 26 6 23.08
AOA GHHS IM Honors Psych Honors Sub-I Honors # Pubs/Pres
0 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0 1 2
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 3
0 0 1 1 1 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 1 1 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 0 1 0
0 1 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 1 1 0

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