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4 IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

5 IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF THURSTON

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7 BRIAN CORTLAND, )
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8 Plaintiff, )
) No. 16-2-04941-34
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10 LEWIS COUNTY, a political )
subdivision of the State of )
11 Washington, )
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12 Defendant. )

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VERBATIM REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS
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17 BE IT REMEMBERED that on the 3rd day of March,

18 2017, the above-entitled and numbered cause came on for

19 hearing before the Honorable James J. Dixon, Judge,

20 Thurston County Superior Court, Olympia, Washington.

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22 Kathryn A. Beehler, CCR No. 2448


Certified Realtime Reporter
23 Thurston County Superior Court
2000 Lakeridge Drive S.W.
24 Building 2, Room 109
Olympia, WA 98502
25 (360) 754-4370

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5 For the Plaintiff: Joseph Thomas


Attorney at Law
6 Law Office of Joseph Thomas,
PLLC
7 14625 SE 176th Street
Apartment N-101
8 Renton, WA 98058
206-390-8848
9 Joe@joethomas.org

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For the Defendant: Glenn Carter
13 Deputy Prosecuting Attorney
Lewis County Prosecuting
14 Attorney
345 West Main Street
15 Second Floor
Chehalis, WA 98532-1900
16 360-740-1240
Glenn.carter@lewiscountywa.gov
17 Lori.cole@lewiscountywa.gov

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Court Calls Case/Introductions 4

Argument by Mr. Carter Re: Judgment on the


Pleadings 4

Argument by Mr. Thomas Re: Judgment on the


Pleadings 15

Argument by Mr. Thomas Re: Protective


Order/Discovery 27

Argument by Mr. Thomas Re: Protective


Order/Discovery 28

Oral Ruling of the Court 31

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1 March 3, 2017 Olympia, Washington

2 MORNING SESSION

3 The Honorable Judge James J. Dixon, Presiding

4 Kathryn A. Beehler, Official Reporter

5 --o0o--

6 THE COURT: Brian Cortland v. Lewis County.

7 MR. CARTER: Good morning, Your Honor.

8 THE COURT: Good morning, Mr. Carter.

9 MR. CARTER: Glenn Carter on behalf of

10 Lewis County.

11 THE COURT: Mr. Thomas, good morning.

12 MR. THOMAS: Good morning.

13 THE COURT: The matters before the court are

14 the County's Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings,

15 and then depending on the court's ruling of that

16 matter, the County's Motion for Entry of a Protective

17 Order.

18 So Mr. Carter, your client's motion with respect

19 to judgment on the pleadings first.

20 MR. CARTER: Your Honor, thank you very much.

21 I appreciate the opportunity to be here.

22 This is a mandamus action, and there are two

23 indispensable elements to a mandamus action. One of

24 them is a plaintiff with standing; the second is a

25 defendant with a clear and ministerial duty. We have

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1 neither in this case, Your Honor.

2 We don't have a plaintiff who has articulated an

3 interest that is not shared in common with all other

4 citizens. He has articulated an interest in making

5 sure that the county and that this agency, the Law

6 Library Board, complies with the Public Records Act.

7 That's an interest that is shared by all citizens.

8 He says that he has an interest in being sure that

9 the county and whatever appropriate agency complies

10 with the County Law Library Act. That too is an

11 interest that's shared by all citizens in common.

12 For the first time he has said that he did, at one

13 point, visit the law library. We didn't know that

14 before, notwithstanding requests for information

15 concerning that. He has not put that in the form of

16 admissible evidence to my knowledge. I have not seen

17 it. But even if he did, it would be futile. There

18 was no allegation articulated that perhaps he was a

19 prisoner, that he sought so avail himself of the

20 local law library for purposes of getting access to

21 resources for purposes of vindicating his interest

22 and being exonerated. He hasn't alleged anything

23 that would fall within Bounds v. Smith or any of the

24 Federal Court cases and Supreme Court cases that say

25 that you have to have an adequate law library for the

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1 purposes of providing those resources to your

2 prisoners. He does not say anything, articulate any

3 kind of interest that is peculiar, unique to him.

4 The only interest he claims are those shared by

5 all citizens in common. And it doesn't matter

6 whether he has perhaps sued the county, as he has in

7 another case before this court, before another judge,

8 because that again is something that any citizen can

9 do under the Public Records Act or under GR 31.1.

10 They proceed under that rule. Those are available to

11 all of us, as citizens.

12 The requirement in the City of Spokane case, which

13 defines what the three elements are of a mandamus

14 action, Eugster v. City of Spokane at 118 Wn. App. at

15 402 requires that the plaintiff allege "an interest

16 in the action beyond that shared in common with other

17 citizens."

18 That is a mandamus case. And that is all that

19 this case is is a mandamus action. And it is an

20 action that is predicated on the fact alleged by the

21 plaintiff that the Law Library Board in Lewis County

22 does not exist. And given that it does not exist, he

23 is bringing this action in order to have that

24 created. But Eugster says that you have to have an

25 interest beyond that shared in common with other

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1 citizens. So that element is not established, one of

2 the three indispensable elements of a mandamus

3 action. We don't have that here, notwithstanding his

4 response. There is nothing articulated to support

5 that.

6 There is a second element. And the second element

7 is with respect to whether the defendant in this

8 case, Lewis County — the court is not a defendant —

9 whether Lewis County has that clear and ministerial

10 duty to perform the act that is requested. The act

11 that is requested is the creation of a Law Library

12 Board. The only agency within the county that has

13 the power to create boards is the Board of County

14 Commissioners.

15 There is a kind of secondary skirmish that goes on

16 in pleadings where Mr. Cortland alleges that he's not

17 asking for the Board of County Commissioners to do

18 anything. But it is inherent in the way in which

19 counties work that boards are created by the Board of

20 County Commissioners where they are county boards.

21 Now, the question is, is whether the Board of

22 County Commissioners has a clear ministerial duty

23 under the County Law Library Act to create this Law

24 Library Board. And it is our position, as you know,

25 that it does not. There's been discussion on this.

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1 And I very much appreciate the comments that the

2 court has provided to us to try to focus our

3 pleadings and our briefings in this case and to focus

4 our research.

5 So after our last hearing on this matter, I did go

6 back to Title 27. Title 27 is the part of the code

7 which deals with the creation of public libraries.

8 And it deals with the creation of two different types

9 of libraries: General -- for purposes of this case,

10 there are general purpose libraries, and there are

11 law libraries. Of the general purpose type, there

12 are at least five. Of the law library type, there

13 are two. Title 27 covers all of them.

14 In Title 27, with respect to the general purpose

15 libraries, invariably, in every instance of those

16 general purpose libraries, the Legislature provided

17 for the executive agency of the particular unit of

18 government, whether it was a state or municipality,

19 for the executive agency, the governing body -- it

20 says in those statutes, the governing body shall

21 appoint the board of those libraries.

22 With respect to the other two types, the other two

23 statutes which deal with law libraries, it provides

24 otherwise. One of them is a 1959 enactment, fairly

25 recent. That created the state law library. And in

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1 that enactment, it is absolutely crystal clear, made

2 explicit, that the law library is part of the

3 judicial branch and that the Supreme Court shall

4 administer and run the state law library. There is

5 no question on that.

6 Our statute that we're dealing with was enacted in

7 1919, 40 years earlier. It was the first of the

8 library statutes that ended up in Title 27. And

9 although one can certainly argue, as you did in our

10 prior hearing, that that particular statute is

11 somewhat unclear, it is clear as to the intention of

12 the Legislature. It may be that it's not as explicit

13 as the State Law Library Act. I grant you that. But

14 it is clear that the intention of the Legislature in

15 asking or requiring or providing for the judges to

16 appoint four of the five trustees -- that the

17 intention of the Legislature was for this to be an

18 agency that was subject to judicial oversight.

19 The Legislature, I believe, knew then and it

20 certainly knows now how to create an agency or

21 require the creation of an agency by a governing body

22 of a unit of government. It could have easily said,

23 as it did in the other provisions that deal with

24 general purpose libraries in Title 27 -- it could

25 have said that the Board of County Commissioners

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1 shall appoint the board of the law library. It did

2 not provide, in this case, the County Law Library

3 Act. It did not say that. It said instead that the

4 judges shall appoint four of the five trustees. It

5 did provide automatically for the chair --

6 MR. THOMAS: Objection. That's not in this

7 case. That is not applicable to Lewis County. That

8 is applicable to counties of population of 300,000 or

9 more.

10 MR. CARTER: Your Honor --

11 THE COURT: Continue.

12 MR. CARTER: -- the original act had one

13 provision for the appointment of the a board, and it

14 was for four of the five members to be appointed by

15 the judges. Subsequently, Your Honor, there was an

16 amendment. I don't recall the exact date off the top

17 of my head. It might have been the 1970s. There was

18 an amendment that now provides that in certain

19 counties, smaller counties like our own,

20 Lewis County, that three of the members now are

21 appointed by the private local bar association. One

22 is by the judge -- by the judges, and then again, you

23 still have the chair of the board who is ex officio.

24 I would submit that that doesn't change the intent of

25 the Legislature.

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1 To the extent that one is concerned about the

2 separation of powers, having the Legislature tell the

3 judges that you are going to appoint one of your own

4 and having the Legislature tell the board to tell the

5 bar association that you are going to put three of

6 your members on, obviously, the Board of County

7 Commissioners cannot tell the judges what to do, and

8 obviously, the Board of County Commissioners cannot

9 tell the local bar association that thou shalt do

10 this, either. That is a recipe for useless agency.

11 The 1919 Act, the history of that act -- and if we

12 ever have to get into it, I'll give it to you.

13 THE COURT: I've read it.

14 MR. CARTER: Okay. But the nature of the

15 problem back then was that they needed to provide

16 resources to these rural law libraries, because they

17 were not being built up, and they were not sufficient

18 to help the people, the judges or the members of the

19 bar. So the idea was to get money and resources to

20 them. I think the Legislature intended to do that,

21 but at the same time to say, you judges are going to

22 be the ones that run this. And if it means later in

23 the 1970s that the Legislature says, members of the

24 bar are now going to help out on this, the only way

25 to get the members of the bar to cooperate on that is

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1 to have the judges be the people who go to the

2 members of the bar, the bar association, and say you

3 guys are officers of the court; we need to have a

4 good law library here; I am asking you to put three

5 people up that are going to serve on this board, and

6 we're going to have a judge serve on it, as well.

7 The Legislature knows that we are officers of the

8 court. The Legislature knows that our local Superior

9 Court have power over us as officers of the court.

10 Certainly the Supreme Court does. It tells who

11 practices and who does not. But with respect to a

12 local Superior Court, we work with them all the time

13 between bar associations, we serve on committees, we

14 serve all together. And that's done as part of the

15 cooperative process where it is implicit, when the

16 judge asks you to serve on something like that, that

17 you do that, because you're an officer of the court.

18 The only people here that can encourage and fill

19 that kind of a board are the Superior Court judges.

20 The Board of County Commissioners can't do that. The

21 Board of County Commissioners has zero power over the

22 local members of the bar. So I submit that it could

23 not have been intended by the Legislature to require

24 the Board of County Commissioners to try to go out

25 and control the local bar to put three people on and

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1 to cajole the Superior Court judges to put somebody

2 on this board, as well, because the result of that is

3 the possibility, as you mentioned, of an empty shell

4 agency with a chair where it's supposed to have five

5 members, and it doesn't even have a quorum to act.

6 If it only has the chair, it cannot act as a body,

7 because it doesn't have the quorum to act. It is an

8 ineffective, empty shell of an agency.

9 And if there are two rules of statutory

10 interpretation, one is that the Legislature does not

11 purposefully enact useless acts. That is -- if

12 that's what it's intended to do, if this is a county

13 agency that can result in just having a chair of the

14 Board of County Commissioners sitting with four empty

15 chairs, that makes no sense. It cannot do what is

16 required by that act.

17 Instead, if it is read as one that intends for the

18 judges to be the supervisory authority of that

19 agency, to fill those positions, utilizing their

20 ability to regulate lawyers, that is something which

21 is understandable; it's reasonable that the

22 Legislature would have known that; and it reaches the

23 result of actually creating an agency that would be

24 effective, potentially far more effective than the

25 alternative.

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1 It also avoids an unconstitutional result, because

2 the position that is taken by the plaintiff in this

3 case is one that says the Board of County

4 Commissioners shall tell the Superior Court what to

5 do and shall tell the local private bar what to do,

6 as well, and that, certainly to the extent of the

7 judges, is a separation of powers problem.

8 We are not proposing an unconstitutional reading.

9 We, instead, are saying, read the statutes together,

10 all of the statutes in Title 27. I believe reading

11 those -- it's a small sample size. I understand

12 that. But it provides for general purpose libraries,

13 five of them, five different types, which are always

14 placed in the governing body for the governing body

15 to appoint the board.

16 Then it provides for two law libraries, one for

17 the state law library, which is clearly placed under

18 the Supreme Court, and the other is the county law

19 libraries which I would submit, as intended by the

20 Legislature, are intended to be subject to judicial

21 oversight.

22 Now, Mr. Cortland -- his attorney has submitted a

23 response, and I've gone through in my reply with

24 respect to all of the facts alleged in that response.

25 And I believe that I've addressed all of them, but

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1 Your Honor, I would be happy to respond to any

2 questions that you might have on that.

3 THE COURT: Thank you.

4 Mr. Thomas?

5 MR. THOMAS: Your Honor, thank you. My name

6 is Joseph Thomas, and I'm the attorney for Plaintiff

7 Brian Cortland. And today we're here for a Motion

8 for Judgment on the Pleadings which is under

9 Civil Rule 12(c). And the legal standard for that is

10 the -- well the function of a motion for a judgment

11 on the pleadings is to determine whether or not there

12 is an issue of material fact and whether it exists,

13 not to determine the facts.

14 So what we're here looking at today is to see if

15 there's a difference of opinion as to what the facts

16 are. Courts have even gone on to say that the

17 purpose is to determine if a plaintiff can prove any

18 set of facts that would justify relief. And the

19 Washington courts have even held that these can be

20 hypothetical facts. And plaintiff has at least met

21 that burden in this case.

22 Plaintiff has argued a set of facts that would

23 entitle him to relief. Whether these facts are, at

24 the end of the day, at the end of the hearing -- at

25 the end of the trial will be upheld by this court or

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1 not is a different story. But plaintiff has at least

2 alleged those facts, and the court needs to take

3 those facts as true under the CR 12 standard.

4 In the response to the Motion for Judgment on the

5 Pleadings, in our first argument, plaintiff argued

6 the prima facia case. There are three elements to a

7 writ of mandamus. First of all, there has to be a

8 ministerial duty, which opposing counsel, Mr. Carter,

9 talked about. And we largely agree about the nature

10 of a ministerial duty; however, plaintiff responds

11 that they argued -- the plaintiff argued in the

12 complaint that there is a ministerial duty to act.

13 The title of the statute, 27.24, is called "county

14 law libraries."

15 Mr. Cortland sued Lewis County in order to restart

16 the law library. We're arguing that Lewis County has

17 a ministerial duty to act. And the constitutionality

18 is set aside. Lewis County had every opportunity in

19 the world in order to sue to invalidate this law.

20 This is not the time or place, at the Motion for

21 Judgment on the Pleadings, in order to determine the

22 constitutionality of the law. What it is is, the

23 proper time is to determine whether or not the

24 plaintiff has alleged the proper facts in order to

25 continue; facts that, assumed to be true, would

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1 entitle plaintiff to relief.

2 And plaintiff has alleged facts that meet the

3 first element that Lewis County has a duty to act.

4 And we've alleged facts -- plaintiff has alleged

5 facts that Lewis County has met the population

6 threshold in order to trigger RCW 27.24.020(2), and

7 that states that there must be -- that the county

8 must have a county -- the legislative -- the chair of

9 the legislative authority as the first officer, a

10 judge as the second officer, and three members of the

11 county bar as the fourth -- as the third, fourth, and

12 fifth officers. Sorry. And so we've alleged that

13 they have a ministerial duty to have this Law Library

14 Board. The county has a ministerial duty to have

15 this Law Library Board.

16 Furthermore, plaintiff has alleged that --

17 Lewis County even acknowledged that they have a duty

18 to have this Law Library Board. On page 14 and I

19 believe page 16 of the plaintiff's response to the

20 Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings, Mr. Carter even

21 wrote to my client, Plaintiff Brian Cortland, and he

22 urged Plaintiff Brian Cortland in order to go to the

23 county -- and he didn't say the Board of County

24 Commissioners. He said maybe the Board of County

25 Commissioners or some other agency. He urged

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1 Mr. Cortland to go to the county to restart the law

2 library board. It begs the question that if the

3 county did not have a ministerial duty, why did

4 Mr. Cortland (sic), opposing counsel in this case,

5 tell my client, Brian Cortland, in order to go to the

6 county to restart the Law Library Board. The County

7 has a ministerial duty to act.

8 The second element is met, because there's no

9 plain, speedy, or adequate remedy in the law.

10 Mr. Cortland wrote -- through me, wrote a letter to

11 Mr. Carter and to Lewis County asking them to restart

12 the Law Library Board. We received no response in

13 two weeks. I believe that that was also pled in the

14 complaint or the writ of mandamus, as well.

15 A declaratory judgment would not be proper in this

16 case, because through a declaratory judgment, it

17 cannot force the county to restart the Law Library

18 Board. There would just be a declaration or a

19 statement from the court one way or another that

20 would not provide Mr. Cortland the relief that he is

21 seeking in order to restart the Law Library Board.

22 So the writ of mandamus, right now, is the only

23 adequate remedy at law that he has in order to pursue

24 an order to restart the Law Library Board. This is

25 pled in the complaint. In the Response to the Motion

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1 for Judgment of the Pleadings, we stated where we

2 alleged this in the complaint.

3 The third element is met is, because Mr. Cortland

4 is a beneficially interested party. First,

5 Lewis County states that there needs to be some sort

6 of pecuniary interest in order for there to be a

7 beneficially interested party. And that is not the

8 case at all. In fact, on page 11 of our response, we

9 state that the Washington State Supreme Court --

10 Mr. Carter is arguing an appellate case when the

11 Washington Supreme Court that year defined what a

12 beneficially interested party is. And I agree with

13 his definition; that to be considered beneficially

14 interested, the person in the action has to have an

15 interest beyond what is shared with the common

16 citizens.

17 Mr. Cortland asserted that he has an interest that

18 is beyond what is shared with the common citizens.

19 He's filed public records requests — this was in the

20 writ of mandamus — and not just the ones that are

21 being litigated right now. He's filed other public

22 records requests that were alleged in the writ of

23 mandamus. That gives him standing in order to bring

24 this action.

25 Lewis County didn't seem to agree with that

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1 argument. And so plaintiff said, okay. The public

2 records requests that are not being litigated right

3 now that Mr. Cortland has pending with Lewis County

4 are constitutionally protected property interests

5 under the due process clause. This argument is built

6 under the Board of Regents of State Colleges v. Roth,

7 a United States Supreme Court case from 1972. And

8 the crux of this is, is that -- the court says is

9 that in order to have a property interest protected

10 by the due process clause, there has to be a

11 legitimate claim of entitlement that's protected --

12 or a legitimate claim of entitlement that arises from

13 an independent source, such as state law.

14 Mr. Cortland has a legitimate claim of

15 entitlement. The people have a right under the

16 Public Records Act -- the statute states, the people

17 have a right to know what their government is doing,

18 and they shall not yield that to the government.

19 Mr. Cortland has a legitimate claim of entitlement

20 under RCW 42.56.030. And that independent statute,

21 the Public Records Act, gives Mr. Cortland an

22 independent source, such as state law, to make a

23 property interest under the constitution -- under the

24 due process clause of the constitution.

25 The due process clause affords the basic

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1 protection, affords people the right of notice and a

2 hearing. This is the hearing. Mr. Cortland should

3 be able to argue his case to the finality, to the --

4 he has a right to discovery in this case and has a

5 right to have a full --

6 THE COURT: Well, let's get to that. And I

7 apologize for interrupting you, and I'll give you an

8 opportunity, of course, to finish your argument. But

9 why is it that you say your client has a right to

10 discovery? It seems to me that the issues before

11 this court are limited to whether the court should

12 issue a writ of mandamus directing a county

13 government to do a particular act. So why would your

14 client or the county, for that matter, be entitled to

15 conduct any discovery if that is the limited issue

16 before this court? Wouldn't all of the discovery

17 issues be resolved in the PRA case?

18 MR. THOMAS: No. And that's a very good

19 question, Your Honor. And I appreciate you for

20 asking it, because I'm not sure if I would have

21 brought it up otherwise. It's a very good question,

22 because there are questions about to what extent this

23 is functioning, if it is actually functioning by the

24 judiciary, if it's partially functioning by the

25 county. And I think for the court -- in order to

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1 make -- for both parties, first of all, to make

2 intelligent arguments to this court and for the court

3 to make an informed ruling, we need to get to the

4 meat of this issue and find out how exactly the Law

5 Library Board is functioning in order to apply those

6 set of facts to the law.

7 THE COURT: But it's not functioning. It's

8 not in existence. How can it be functioning if it's

9 not in existence? I think Mr. Carter would stipulate

10 on behalf of his client that, at present, there is no

11 Law Library Board.

12 MR. THOMAS: Mr. Cortland has received public

13 records that we weren't able to include in this

14 motion for judgment, because we didn't receive them

15 in time, unfortunately. But we do have auditor's

16 expense reports from the law library fund showing

17 that money is being taken out of and being spent on

18 behalf of the law library. The county has a fund for

19 the law library. It's called "law library fund 105."

20 And the auditor has -- the Lewis County Auditor keeps

21 expense reports. We have expense reports from 2010,

22 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and through

23 part -- whatever it was fulfilled in 2017, so a

24 month-and-a-half of 2017, showing that money was

25 being expended out of these accounts. If it was

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1 never functioning, then no money would be expended.

2 Furthermore, there was an auction last week, which

3 we also didn't have a chance to include in our

4 motion. There was a auction last week where the

5 county tried to sell off law library books out of the

6 law library. Mr. Cortland addressed this with the

7 county, and the auction was ultimately cancelled.

8 But only -- the law library law states that only the

9 board of trustees for the law library has the

10 authority in order to sell property out of the law

11 library.

12 So that begs the question, again, if they're

13 having an auction with property of the law library

14 and only the board of trustees for the law library

15 are allows to make this auction or allowed to sell

16 the property, how is this being sold -- how is this

17 being sold if there is not a Law Library Board, as

18 defendants assert? So there are quite a few issues

19 of material fact about whether a Law Library Board

20 exists, and to what extent.

21 And I also believe that plaintiff, Brian Cortland,

22 has also shown this court that county commissioners

23 have been appointed to the Law Library Board every

24 year. And it's always the ex officio trustee. The

25 law library statute, RCW 27.24.020(2), states that

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1 the ex officio trustee of the executive shall be on

2 the law library. That means that the ex officio

3 trustee -- if my understanding is correct, this is

4 just a fancy word saying that it passes down with the

5 office. And that means that the chair of the county

6 commissioners -- whoever is the chair of the Board of

7 County Commissioners that year shall be on the Law

8 Library Board.

9 Mr. Cortland has received documents from the

10 county budget book and from public records requests

11 through the county that shows that the ex officio

12 trustee has been appointed to the Law Library Board

13 every year since 2010. And it's always the

14 ex officio trustee, and it's a different person every

15 single year.

16 THE COURT: You've answered my question, then.

17 MR. THOMAS: Okay. So would you like me to

18 come back to the discovery, or --

19 THE COURT: No. Just continue on with your

20 response to the Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings,

21 and you were arguing the issue of whether your client

22 is beneficially interested.

23 MR. THOMAS: Okay.

24 THE COURT: And you cited that State Supreme

25 Court case.

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1 MR. THOMAS: Thank you, Your Honor.

2 So because of the property interest, the

3 constitutionally protected property interest under

4 the due process clause, Mr. Cortland asserts that he

5 has standing in order to bring this argument. That

6 is not something that everybody shares, because not

7 everybody requests public records about the law

8 library. I don't have facts about that,

9 unfortunately. But I will go ahead and make the

10 assumption for the court that not every person in

11 Lewis County -- it's not common for every person in

12 Lewis County to make public records requests about

13 the County Law Library Board.

14 THE COURT: But Mr. Carter's argument would

15 be, I suspect, that may or may not be the case, but

16 every person has a right to do that, has a right to

17 make a public records request. What is the unique

18 situation of your client that makes him, in

19 particular, beneficially interested so as to

20 establish standing?

21 MR. THOMAS: Well, two points. Mr. Cortland

22 has done that, and we've alleged that in the

23 Complaint. And when using the CR 12 standards -- the

24 CR 12(c) standards, even alleging that at this point

25 in this hearing should be good enough in order to

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1 survive or in order to dismiss the motion for

2 pleadings under CR 12, because you have to assume

3 that they -- the courts have instructed us to assume

4 that the facts alleged in the complaint or the writ

5 of mandamus are true. So, first of all, we allege

6 that.

7 Second of all, how it sets it apart that everybody

8 else has this interest is, not everybody else has

9 made this -- has made public records requests and has

10 not asserted a constitutionally protected property

11 interest and the right to a hearing. And that's what

12 Mr. Cortland is doing. In fact, I did some legal

13 research — and I am not claiming to be an expert on

14 this — but I cannot find property interest applied to

15 public records anywhere that I looked. And this may

16 be a case of first impression on that issue,

17 nationally.

18 So I think between the fact that it it's alleged

19 in the complaint and that Mr. Cortland is asserting

20 it as a constitutionally protected interest, that due

21 process right alone -- even if everybody else in the

22 county has the same interests, that constitutionally

23 protected due process right alone gives Mr. Cortland

24 the standing in order to come in here today in order

25 to make that argument.

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1 Again, there are several issues of -- disputed

2 fact of material fact, including Mr. Carter's

3 advice -- opposing counsel's advice to Mr. Cortland,

4 which we have submitted to this court. And I believe

5 that it is improper for this court, in order to rule

6 on the Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings today,

7 because there are issues of -- disputed issues of

8 material fact.

9 Plaintiff has argued facts that, if accepted as

10 true, make a prima facia case for the writ of

11 mandamus. And I'll just leave it at that. And I can

12 go on to the discovery if you'd wish.

13 THE COURT: No. I'm good. The court is ready

14 to rule on all of the issues. The court appreciates

15 the parties --

16 MR. THOMAS: If I may say one thing about the

17 discovery before you rule?

18 THE COURT: Sure.

19 MR. THOMAS: This is a constitutional issue.

20 This affects Mr. Cortland's rights of access to the

21 courts. Lewis County has never shown -- or never

22 shown any evidence that any harm exists because of

23 this discovery. They could have objected if a motion

24 to compel came, and that would have been the proper

25 course if they are arguing relevance. Instead, the

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1 standard is, under a CR 26(c) motion, they need to

2 show for good cause that they are somehow being

3 harmed by this discovery.

4 They have not offered any affidavits, any

5 declarations, or any evidence in the record

6 whatsoever that they will be harmed from it. They

7 have argued relevance. And that -- that argument may

8 be valid. But that's an argument for another day

9 when a motion to compel is filed.

10 It's improper for this court to grant a motion to

11 compel, because then it gets into the constitutional

12 aspect of access to the courts. And a protective

13 order would stop the rest of the people from

14 Lewis County who may be interested in this from

15 investigating this issue themselves. Thank you.

16 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

17 Mr. Carter, the court is interested in your

18 response to that latter argument from Mr. Thomas,

19 that it is premature, for lack of a better term, for

20 the court to enter a protective order with respect to

21 discovery. What's your client's position?

22 MR. CARTER: Your Honor, the problem with

23 discovery is that we have to martial our resources,

24 which are very limited, to try to respond to the

25 discovery. We are prejudiced, because I have to

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1 spend my time sitting down and responding to

2 interrogatories and requests for production --

3 MR. THOMAS: Objection, Your Honor. Counsel

4 is testifying.

5 MR. CARTER: Your Honor, I've already put this

6 in a declaration. But I'm required to sit down and

7 spend a lot of time, for purposes of putting together

8 responses to discovery that are due on Monday, in

9 order to respond to discovery that shouldn't be

10 submitted at this time. I asked counsel for the

11 plaintiff -- at the time that these were served, I

12 immediately contacted him and said, we have a pending

13 dispositive motion. Would you have the professional

14 courtesy to stay this discovery until this ruling is

15 made on the motion, at which time we then, if it's an

16 adverse ruling to the county, can then, within some

17 period of time, provide the responses in the

18 discovery. That is an appropriate thing for lawyers

19 to do in circumstances where the request that is

20 being made is a request for material that is

21 irrelevant, truly, to this case.

22 This case is -- the predicate, again, is that the

23 Law Library Board does not exist. The fact that a

24 law library fund exists is a completely different

25 issue. It has nothing to do with the Law Library

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1 Board. The law library fund exists because there are

2 taxes that are collected -- taxes, fees, collected by

3 the clerk that are put into a law library fund. It

4 doesn't require a Law Library Board.

5 So the whole argument that somehow there's still a

6 Law Library Board that exists because the law library

7 funds that are paid out and collected is a non

8 sequitur. It has nothing to do with whether a Law

9 Library Board exists. And, moreover, there has been

10 no appointment and no evidence in the record of an

11 appointment of a chair of the BOCC, because that is

12 an automatic appointment under the statute. The

13 statute says the chair is the ex officio.

14 There is no action that has been shown by any

15 admissible evidence on this record that, in fact, the

16 chair was appointed by the board. That isn't what

17 any of those records show.

18 But Your Honor, the law library fund -- this

19 discovery about what are the payments to the law

20 library fund, what are the expenditures, what is the

21 property that's been received by the law library

22 fund, that -- that is not connected with the Law

23 Library Board. And if in fact it does exist, then

24 this case should be dismissed, because a mandamus is

25 useless. It already exists. So it's either the one

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1 or it's the other. In either case, it should -- this

2 case should be dismissed.

3 THE COURT: I need a copy of my court rules,

4 so hang tight.

5 (A brief recess was taken.)

6 MR. THOMAS: Your Honor, if it may help,

7 Rhinehart vs. Seattle Times, 98 Wn. 226 at page 256,

8 1982, is where it defines the good cause standard and

9 says that the moving party shows that the harms

10 spoken of in the rule are threatened can be avoided

11 without impeding with discovery process. And that's

12 in plaintiff's response.

13 THE COURT: Well, this court has spent, on a

14 relative scale, a great deal of time looking at the

15 issues in this case, because not only are they

16 important to the parties, but frankly, they're very

17 interesting.

18 So there are two issues before the court today.

19 The first is the State's Motion for Judgment on the

20 Pleadings. The issue in that regard, as recognized

21 by both parties, is whether a judgment on the

22 pleadings is appropriate. The factors for the court

23 to consider as it relates to this particular case is

24 whether, based upon the pleadings, the case should be

25 dismissed because the plaintiff has not satisfied the

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1 three elements required for the issuance of a writ of

2 mandamus.

3 Those three elements are whether the party subject

4 to the writ is under a clear duty to act, whether

5 there is no plain, speedy, and adequate remedy in the

6 ordinary course of law, and whether the applicant is

7 beneficially interested. That third factor is the

8 factor that appears to be the most contested.

9 The court finds that there is a material issue

10 with respect to whether the party subject to the

11 writ, in this case Lewis County, has a clear duty to

12 act. The court finds that there is no plain, speedy,

13 and adequate remedy in the ordinary course of law.

14 And the court will make a finding that there is a

15 genuine disputed fact with respect to whether the

16 plaintiff in this case, Mr. Cortland, is beneficially

17 interested.

18 Now, "beneficially interested" is defined in

19 Spokane & Eastern Lawyer vs. Board of Trustees of

20 Spokane County Law Library as a party who has an

21 interest in the action beyond that shared in common

22 with other citizens. The court makes a ruling today

23 that, arguably, Mr. Cortland is beneficially

24 interested, because Mr. Cortland filed the motion for

25 Public Records Act prior to filing this cause of

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1 action, this writ. Had it been the other way around

2 chronologically, the court would be, perhaps, not

3 making the ruling that it is today.

4 The court denies the Motion for Judgment on the

5 Pleadings. I respect the argument made by Mr. Thomas

6 here this morning, which adds to the interest of this

7 court, but that being said, Mr. Carter's explanation

8 also is of interest to the court when it comes to

9 what actions may or may not have been taken by the

10 Lewis County Board of Commissioners or the

11 Lewis County Clerk's Office for that matter.

12 But again, with all due respect to Mr. Thomas'

13 argument on behalf of his client, Mr. Cortland, the

14 issue as it relates to discovery, for purposes of

15 this court making a determination on the ultimate

16 issue, is irrelevant. This is a legal issue for this

17 court to decide, and this court has to decide whether

18 a writ should be entered. And to that end, it is not

19 relevant to this court what, if any, actions the

20 Board of County Commissioners may have taken or the

21 County may have taken with respect to purchase of

22 books, sale of books, auction of books, disbursement

23 of monies that go into the law library budget, if a

24 law library budget does exist, and what those monies

25 are being used for. That is interesting, but as

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1 persuasively argued by Mr. Carter, for purposes of

2 this hearing, not relevant.

3 So with respect to discovery, and more

4 particularly the State's Motion for a Protective

5 Order, the court is reviewing and has reviewed

6 Civil Rule 26. That rule provides, in part, that

7 upon motion by a party from whom discovery is sought,

8 the court may enter an order to protect a party from

9 undue burden or expense that discovery not be had.

10 The court will grant the County's motion for a

11 protective order, over the objection of Mr. Cortland.

12 And again, at the risk of repeating itself, the court

13 finds that any discovery sought by Mr. Cortland is

14 irrelevant to the issue before this court. And the

15 issue before this court is very limited: Whether

16 this court should issue a writ of mandamus.

17 So in summary, the court denies the County's

18 Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings, grants the

19 County's Motion for a Protective Order. I'll sign an

20 order.

21 The court will sign orders upon presentation if

22 they need to be on the record.

23

24 (Conclusion of the March 3, 2017, Proceedings.)

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SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF THURSTON

Hon. James J. Dixon, Judge


_____________________________________________________________
Brian Cortland, )
)
Plaintiff, )
)
vs. ) Case No. 16-2-04941-34
)
Lewis County, a political ) REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
subdivision of the State of )
Washington, )
)
Defendant.

____________________________________________________________

STATE OF WASHINGTON )
) ss
COUNTY OF THURSTON )

I, Kathryn A. Beehler, CCR, Official Reporter of

the Superior Court of the State of Washington, in and for the

county of Thurston, do hereby certify:

I reported the March 3, 2017, proceedings

stenographically. This transcript is a true and correct

record of the proceedings to the best of my ability, except

any changes made by the trial judge reviewing the transcript.

I am in no way related to or employed by any party in this

matter, nor any counsel in the matter; and I have no

financial interest in the litigation.

Kathryn A. Beehler, Reporter


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