Go For Those Who Hunger and Thirst

for Righteousness
This site is dedicated to those who hunger and thirst
for righteousness, the fruit of which is peace - quietness
and confidence forever. To those poor in spirit, who seek a
much closer relationship with God and Christ. To those pilgrims in
a strange land, who know there has to be something more. To
those who mourn under the burden of sin; to be truly clean in
thought, word, and deed. To those who long to serve the
Lord, according to his direction and will. To those wayfaring men
and women who have been searching for their Beloved, turn in
here. We proclaim the Holy Way to find the water so you
never thirst again - to find Bread from heaven- to find
fullness and completeness in Christ - to hear and see and
know your Beloved - Christ in you, the hope of glory.

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To attain the available fullness, one needs

From the Voice of the Lord
"Welcome to my site.
Are you ready to see your sins?
The cross is offered to all. Are you ready to
suffer the shame, the pain, and the blood of the
cross -
or do you cry out with indifference?
Yes, it is your birthday - as many as are at their
savior's feet.
There are six things I will put in order in front of
your eyes:
1-how evil proceeds out of the heart,
2-and goes forth out of the mouth.
3-how your heart longs for evil.
4-how your feet are swift to run to evil.
5-how your heart builds a strong tower as a
bulwark of defense.
6-how your heart is a mirror of the world.
As many as I love, I chastise.
to know, and then believe what is
possible. The writings of George Fox
testify to thousands of men and women
who became one with Christ and
God and exhibited their moral ethnicity,
and how this joy is available to all who
hope and believe in the power of his
name, and the true gospel: repentance
to purity through the inward cross of
self-denial, the power of God. And
after purity, to enter paradise, the
Kingdom of God within and among us;
our consciousness and sight being
translated to the spiritual dimension, to
live in union with Christ and God
in their presence, while walking
on earth by the light of God,
as children of the light. For God
is light and nearby; in him we live
and move and have our being.
From the Voice of the Lord:
"These writings show the true character
of the church of Christ as well as the
way out of darkness to light.
Within these writings, you may attain
the way to salvation and disprove
others, while discovering the hidden
depths of the gospel that Jesus came
to deliver."
Note: These writings only refer to the early Quakers.

This is the Word of the Lord to you all: Many of today's Quaker sects don't require a belief in
Christ or even God.
He who is not on the cross is repulsive to me.
For those of you unfamiliar with
There has never been a time like now; all men Bible terminology,
will twist in the earth. click here for a plain
speaking summary of this page.
If those who hear will obey, their progress will
be swift.
This is not repent for the end of the
Those who follow their own brain will weep and world in near. This is repent to
mourn; there will be great pain. enter paradise on earth -
good news, not bad news. For God
Who have become Quakers are an anathema. is good and wishes us to be with Him as
They blot my efforts. They cumber the ground. a partaker of the divine nature. But to be
in his presence, we must become
The early Quaker writings are a rich heritage,
pure through death of our sinful nature
which all must strive to fully understand.
on the Missing Cross to Purity - the

Proverbs: we must all believe the hidden
comforts in those proven words.
Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Make no provision for the flesh.
I am against the shepherds, who have
prophesied a false salvation.
They gutted what Jesus had to say.
You are my disciple, if you do what I [Jesus] say.
Hear the word of the Lord from within.
Draw your arms around Him - take heed you
incarnate.
Every man should retire to his own house until
the foundations of the world are destroyed.
The sons of the fathers went to sleep.
Beware of false prophets.
What is necessary for salvation? -- obedience to
commands heard.
When you have heard the dead words in the
Bible, and recall them, heed what is said.
Ears must hear -- Faith within purifies.
Believe you are hearing the Son of God.
When you cast my warnings behind you, this
erases the fear we must have.
If you love me, you will obey me.
Pay not attention, heed not, and I will come
upon you as a thief in the night.
Listen to and obey my voice, and I will be your
God.
The King is where he is king.
Strive to enter through the narrow gate. Few will
find it. Men have stopped trying.
They have plunged themselves into iniquity.
Seek his face. Seek his face in ever increasing
glory. Heed and obey.
Jesus is a mighty name to be declared in all the
worlds to come. Guard and protect his name.
And to those who obey, he will appear like a
magnificent star in your heart.
A man without sin has the power and life given
to him.
The gift of God is himself - a measure of his
Spirit; to each man a measure.
If you pay attention and obey, it results in union
with God. He joins with our cleansed nature.
Prepare for the flight.
Six attestations prove the reign's existence.
Stand your ground.
See myself - thus no sin has a place in me.
If all that profess me, would possess me.
There will be no solace.
Gather the prophets: Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah,
and all. You can find out what is pleasing to God.
Witness salvation.
inward cross of self-denial that leads
to purity - missing from, and forgotten
by Christianity today. These writings
show the way to purity and union
through the inward cross of self-denial.
If anyone would come after me,
he must deny himself and
take up his cross daily and
follow me.
Luke 9:23
Anyone who does not take
his cross and follow me is
not worthy of me.
Mat 10:38
A great darkness has perverted salvation
to be instant, actuated by various forms
of heathenish ritual, leaving us captive to
our sinful natures; confusing the Kingdom
of God, within you and among you,
which does not come with signs to
be observed or visible display, to be an
after-death heaven; and then
again confusing the return of Christ with
his Kingdom to individuals purified
from their sinful natures, to be a future
one-time return of Christ to the whole
world. This site's purpose is to unravel
the knot of lies blanketing Christianity
and scripturally correct the confusion,
in hope of inspiring you to seek the
available union with Christ and God in
the Kingdom while on earth, which comes
to individual persons by repentance
to purity.
From the Voice of the Lord: "This
is the day of your visitation,
regarding the business of
obedience feared and
repentance required."
When he appears, we
shall be like him,
for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this
hope in him
purifies himself, just as he
is pure.
1 John 3:2-3
Blessed are the pure
in heart,
for they shall see God. Mat 5:8
If you die without a pure heart,
you will be banned from heaven.
And this is the will of
Him that sent me,
that everyone who sees
the Son and believes on
him, may have
everlasting life,
John 6:40
Woe to the inhabitants
of the earth,
who stand forth
without repentance!
Voice of the Lord 10/25/06
 Your thoughts are not my thoughts. Your covenant with
Think on His name. death will be annulled,
and your agreement
What's going to happen, you might hear.
with hell will not stand.
Isa 28:18
You shall suffer persecution, when you lead a
godly life.
For God has not called
When you see the abomination of desolation, do us unto uncleanness,
not be afraid.
but unto holiness.
1 Thes 4:7
Nobody else has the answers, nobody but He.

He wishes to make you like Him. Without holiness, no

one will see the Lord.
Little children, thy garments are spotted.
Heb 12:14
Little children, take heed unto me.
Those who are living the
Like Daniel, you are captive of the Chaldeans.
life of the flesh
Unless you hear and see, there will be no cannot please or satisfy
progress. God, or be acceptable
Fat men of increase would have a god fat of to Him.
Rom 8:8
increase, so they can use God to become holy or
to become fat.
Those who belong to
And then they read again, and saw the law Christ Jesus
applied to them too."
have crucified the flesh
Thus said the Lord God. (the godless human nature)
with its passions
and appetites and desires.
Gal 5:24

Most who claim to

be Christians would have
a Christ
who excuses them to do nothing; a pearl of little price.

The few Christians committed to truth would have the Christ

to change them to live pleasing to God, whatever the price.

(Anything good within this site is not to our credit; but rather is to the glory of Jesus Christ and the Father. We are not affiliated with any of
the deficit sects or religions, including the Quakers. We do not seek followers. We want you to be taught by Jesus himself. We seek
no contributions. There is nothing for sale on this site, nor any ads. For freely we have received, and freely we give.)

The false gospel of grace says Jesus came to set you free from guilt of sin, lulling you to have no
fear of God's disapproval and to remain in your sinful nature until death, thereby missing any chance
to inherit the Kingdom of God. To suppose that Jesus erases guilt for continuing to sin, changes grace
(God's love) into a license for immorality and makes Jesus a promoter of sin. The true gospel says
Jesus came to set you free from sin, by destroying the sinful nature within you,
through obedient repentance and change by grace, the missing cross, the power of God,
which produces purity and union with Christ and God, in the Kingdom of Heaven; walking by his
light in his perfect will, while on earth, and then forever.

Repentance and Remission of Sins

should be preached in His name to all nations.
Luke 24:47

Jesus does not just forgive your past sins, he promises to bring you out of darkness to
a sinless state, through repentance. Most deficit sects preach instant salvation by grace,
never mentioning repentance; some deficit sects speak of repentance, but without a clue on how to
achieve it. Whatever their various heathenish rituals employed, all of the deficit sects'
instant salvations are without repentance to life, leaving you still captive to sin
and without salvation. Jesus tells us that few will find the gate to heaven, because of false
prophets [with a false salvation], so that many who claim to be Christians, even having done miracles in
His name, will be rejected, because they still sinned; and then he tells us the formula for success: hear
his sayings, and do them, [come, listen, hear, obey].

Jesus said he will deny all who continue to disobey him (sin),
even those who claim to be saved Christians.

But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’

and not do the things which I say? Luke 6:46

Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom
 of heaven,
but [only] he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name,
and done many wonders in Your name?
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Mat 7:21-23

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness,

and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

The Son of Man will send out His angels,

and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend,
and those who practice lawlessness,
and will cast them into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42

Jesus said, 'I tell you the truth,

everyone who sins is a slave to sin.' John 8:34

If you still sin, you are slave to sin,

and Jesus cannot be your Lord.
Jesus said himself, you cannot serve two masters! Luke 16:13

The acts of the sinful nature include adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery,
hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy,
murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like, etc.
...those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19-21
All with sexual immorality, pride, hatred, lying, envy, wanting more, partying,
foolishness..etc., will be banned from heaven.

You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those
who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6
Anyone who is impure, immoral, or greedy will be banned from heaven.

Jesus said, .. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries,
fornications, murders, thefts,
covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
All these evil things come from within and defile a man. Mark 7:21-23

John said, Anyone who hates his brother has committed murder in his heart. 1 John 3:15

Jesus said, But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed
adultery with her in his heart. Mat 5:28

So, just restraining your desires is not enough - the desires have to be crucified - destroyed - removed.
But, these sins do not make you unfit for God's help to eliminate them from your heart.
So kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members:
sexual vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is
idolatry. Col 3:5

Jesus is eager to destroy sin and the works of evil in us - if we go to him.

For this purpose the Son of God was manifested [in us], that he might destroy the works [sin] of the devil.
1 John 3:8

As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to
light and
from the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from
their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me. Acts 26:17-18

Do you not know.. you are that one's slaves whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death,
Do you really know Jesus?
or of obedience leading to righteousness? Rom 6:16
John says: We know that we
If you are still sinning, you are still under the power
have come to know him if we
of Satan.
obey his commands.
1 John 2:3
Salvation is not to remain enslaved to passions
and pleasures.
[click to see Obedience ]
Salvation is to live free from lusts
and rage.
He promises control of our emotions - and everlasting peace.
Voice of the Lord 12/14/06
Jesus never said you could be saved if you say the sinners' prayer, or be baptised with water, or eat
bread and drink grape juice; this is just heathenish ritual, the wide and broad way of that leads
to destruction. Today's deficit sects, still captive to sin and the power of Satan, believe in a God whose
favor is presumed to be granted due to their heathenish ritual and form of godliness. They deny a God
of power, who can and is eager to free us from the oppression and captivity of sin, so that we can secure
his promises, which require our holiness and purity. These deficit sects have defined a false gospel
that promises heaven to those still sinning , and a false Jesus, who supposedly accepts sin,
disobedience, and disregard of his own commands. Jesus said, who doesn't love me will not obey
my teaching. As Paul said, "cursed is anyone who brings you a different gospel," a different gospel
and different Jesus from what Paul preached. Per Acts, Paul was sent to open their eyes that they may
turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive
forgiveness and release from their sins and a place and portion among those who are consecrated
and purified by faith in Me. The deficit sects falsely preach a different gospel than Paul,
while completely ignoring, totally dismissing, and failing to believe the Good News that
Jesus announced he had been sent by God to proclaim:

The Spirit of the Lord

Are You Really a Disciple of Christ? is on me,
because he has anointed me
So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all
to preach good news to
that he has cannot be My disciple. Luke 14:33 the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim
And whosoever does not bear his cross,
and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
freedom for the prisoners
Luke 14:27 and recovery of sight
for the blind,
He that finds his life shall lose it,
and he that loses his life to release the oppressed,
for my sake shall find it. Mat 10:39 to proclaim the year of
the Lord's favor.
Just as I have loved you,
Luke 4:18-19
so you too should love one another.
By this shall all know that you are My disciples,
To open the blind eyes,
if you love one another. John 13:35 to bring out the
When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father prisoners from the prison,
is honored and glorified, and you show and and them that sit in
prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. darkness out of the
John 15:8
prison house.
Isa 42:7
If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his
father and mother, wife and children, brothers
and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot
Repent for the Kingdom
be My disciple. Luke 14:26 of Heaven is near.
Matthew 4:17
And he who does not take his cross and follow
after Me is not worthy of Me. Mat 10:38 These deficit sects don't understand the Kingdom or how to crucify the
sinful nature by repentance, necessary to be set free from sin and to enter the
He who feeds on My flesh and drinks My blood
Kingdom. Yet that was his message, and the reason why Jesus said he
dwells [abides] continually in Me,
was sent to the world!
and I in him. John 6:56

All that will live godly in Christ Jesus

I must preach the good news
shall suffer persecution. 2 Tim 3:12
of the kingdom of God,
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified ..because that is why I
the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal was sent.
5:24
Luke 4:43

Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom

8:8
The kingdom of God
does not come with signs to
If anyone desires to come after Me, be observed
let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, or with visible display,
and follow Me. Luke 9:23 Nor will people say, Look!
Here ! or, See, there!
For behold,
the kingdom of God is within
you and among you.
Luke 17:20-21

The time has come ,

the kingdom of God is near.
Repent, and believe the good news.
Mark 1:15

Notice, he said, the time has come, the Kingdom is near. He is not talking about a Kingdom
thousands of years later. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Jesus is recorded saying that some then
standing with him, 2000 years ago, would see his glorious coming with the Kingdom before they
 died. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Jesus is recorded saying all the end times prophesies would be
fulfilled before the generation of 2000 years ago died, (click here to see all).

2000 years ago, he told us to Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. Mat 6:33
We are supposed to ignore the pursuit of food and clothing so that we can dedicate ourselves to seeking
the Kingdom of God.
2000 years ago he told us to pray the Lord's Prayer, including pray: Thy Kingdom come.

These commands make no sense if the Kingdom of God is only coming to a generation thousands of
years later.
But Jesus is neither guilty of cruelty, or stupid, for telling every generation for 2000 years to make this
their first priority;
for every generation has the opportunity to enter the Kingdom, which is in them, and does not come
with outward or visible sign.
He said: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
and then he shall reward every man according to his works. (Not just a particular generation.)
Some standing here shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.
Mat 16:27-8,Mar 8:38,9:1,Luk 9:26-27
Those not purified, to see Jesus' coming in them before death, see him as they die, as all peoples,
all nations, all generations do.
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: (also,
the Jews 2000 years ago)
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:7.
2000 years ago, to the Jewish High Priest and the Pharisees at his trial, Jesus said..
you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.
Mark 14:62
This is not a particular generation in our time or later. (See Howgill for more on those not purified).

Heaven appears to our spiritual eye as in a mist or in clouds - so, his coming is on the clouds of
heaven, within the hearts of purified believers.
He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Heb 9:28.
Notice he appears to bring salvation. But he doesn't bring salvation to the whole world - only to
those waiting for him.
Neither is his appearance to the whole world, only to those who are waiting for him, and who love him
by obeying him.
Salvation occurs when He appears within to bring salvation to those who have waited, listened, heard,
and obeyed him - those who love him.

Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and
not to the world?"
Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.
My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. [home in the
heart of those who obey]
He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.
On that day [when he appears in you] you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I
am in you.
Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me.
He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him," John
14:20-23.
So he only appears to those who have heard him speak commands to them, and have obeyed him -
only to those who love him, as evidenced by those who listen to his voice and keep his commands - only
to those who are obedient.

I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also. John 14:3
This is the return of Christ. The world does not see it. He returns with the Father. They become
one with us - union.
It is a personal experience. This is not His resurrection after death. He is talking about
becoming one with the disciples.
I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you will keep and protect them from
evil..Sanctify them. John 17:15-17
So, Jesus wants to keep us in the world, but to protect us from evil, while in the world- to be sanctified.
Father, I desire that they also whom you have entrusted to me may be with me where I am,
so they may see my glory, which you have given me - your love gift to me - for you loved me before
the foundation of the world. John 17:24
We are physically still in the world, but our consciousness and sight translate to the Kingdom of heaven,
a higher dimension.
God is in this same higher dimension; in him we live and move and have our being; who is over all,
in all, and through all.
And there we have fellowship with the Father and the Son.
So with obedience to the cross, we can enter paradise while alive on earth, to be there forever, even after
the second death.

When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone with this hope purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
Only those who are like him, pure, will see him appear.
The deficit sects teach that you don't have to be pure, you don't have to be perfect, you don't have to be holy.
If, as they incorrectly teach, he came back to the whole world, none of them would see him, because they
are not pure.
But if one has the hope of purity and seeing their savior, they will purify their hearts, by faith and grace,
to see God appear within their hearts.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8. Without a pure heart, you are now, and will
be, banned from heaven.
He appears to the purified heart of a believer - he is seen. This is his second appearance - this time to
the purified in heart.
For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness,"made his light shine in our hearts to give us
the light of the knowledge
of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2 Cor 4:6. Christ is revealed in your heart; you see, and
have knowledge of, the glory of God.
The morning star rises in your hearts. 2 Pet 1:19.
Jesus is resurrected in us to be our true Lord. 2 Cor 4:14, Col 2:11-12,3:1, Eph 2:6
So, seek his face, and keep on seeking until he appears.

Until the light rises and Christ appears, you must listen, hear, and obey the word within your heart.
Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your
hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8
Who do you think James was writing to? He was writing to those in the churches, still captive to sin.
Notice he says draw near to God. God is not found in sect meetings. God is not found in reading scriptures.
You must go to him. You must wait on him - listen silently, with the humility of a sinner in need of
his changing power - grace.
Seek, listen, obey..seek, listen, obey.....seek, listen, obey.

Jesus said: Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter heaven, but only those who do the will of my Father.
And how do you do the will of the Father? Then there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,
"This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him!” Luk 9:35
To be purified, you must come to him, listen for him, hear him, and obey him - repetitively, over time.
He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
You are purified by faith in Jesus - faith in hearing his convictions of you to be true, and faith enough
to obey his commands.
When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Col 3:4
When Christ appears in you, bringing his kingdom, you will appear there also - in the kingdom within you
- in glory.
How are you going to appear in glory, unless it is inside of your heart, to your mind's eye? Hidden from
the world.
Other than the fruit of the Spirit, the world does not see Christ; for such a person's life in hidden
in Christ Jesus. Col 3:3
This mystery .. is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people. 2
Cor 6:16

The end of grace is to bring the completion of salvation, at the second appearance of Jesus
Christ, but only within those who have purified themselves and who have been looking for the blessed
hope of his coming. His appearance within us, union with God, salvation, and entrance to the Kingdom
of God, all occur simultaneously. Salvation is to be witnessed by seeing Jesus bring it. Over twenty men
and women on this site, write of seeing their savior, receiving a new name engraved on a white stone,
and having fellowship with Christ and the Father. Think about it: God would never leave our
salvation subject to conjecture, some other person's opinion, reading scripture to see if you qualify, trying
to guess which ritual is important, etc. God is not a god of confusion. God would make our
salvation absolutely clear, without any doubt, without any reservations, with no questions left. So he
has created a salvation to be experienced; which includes purity, holiness, perfection, judgment, being
freed from even the desire to sin, destruction of the residual man of sin within one by the brightness of
his coming, seeing their name written in the Book of Life, union with Christ and the Father, entrance
into the Kingdom of Heaven, seeing the Glory of God, themselves also appearing in glory, fellowship
with past saints made perfect, and fellowship with the Father and Christ - an unmistakable salvation,
clearly seen, clearly felt, clearly understood.

And from George Fox's Journal: written in 1656 (Click to see who Fox was.)

While I was in prison here, the Baptists and fifth-monarchy-men prophesied, that this year Christ
would come, and reign upon earth a thousand years. And they looked upon this reign to be outward:
when he had come inwardly in the hearts of his people, to reign and rule; these
"believers" would not receive him in their hearts. So they failed in their prophecy and expectation, and
did not have the possession of him. But Christ has come, and does dwell and reign in the hearts
of his people. Thousands, at the door of whose hearts he has been knocking, have opened
to him; and he has come in, and does sup with them, and they with him; the heavenly
supper with the heavenly and spiritual man. So many of these Baptists and monarchy-people
became the greatest enemies to the followers of Christ, but he reigns in the hearts of his saints over all
their envy.

And from the writings of another early Quaker, William Dewsbury: (written in 1655)

“Thus through the righteous law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus," Dewsbury says, "I was and am
made free from the body of sin and death; and through these great tribulations, my garments are
washed and made white in the blood of the Lamb, who has led me into the new Jerusalem, where no
one enters that works abomination or speaks a lie, but those whose name is written in the Lamb's book
of life. Here my soul now feeds upon the tree of life, which I had so long hungered and thirsted after,
 that stands in the paradise of God. Here there is no more curse nor night; but the Lord God and the
Lamb are my light and life forever and ever! And I witness that I am regenerated and born again of
the immortal seed, and having partaken of the first resurrection, over such the second death has no power."

Dewsbury clearly speaks above of: 1) having gone through great tribulations, 2) Christ
being resurrected in him, 3) being translated into the Kingdom of God, 4) being in
New Jerusalem, and 5) feeding from the tree of life that stands in the paradise of God. Thus
all the promises of the scriptures he witnessed as having been fulfilled.

From the writings of yet another early Quaker, Francis Howgill: (written in 1676)

By this Light all the righteous, who have waited on God’s appearance, come to see Him. As it is written,
“Lo! This is our God, we have waited for Him, and He will save us. This is the Lord; we have waited for
him, we will be glad and rejoice and be glad in his salvation.” Does he indeed come that you
have waited for? Yes, come, “and his reward is with Him;” and they that see Him find contentment
in Him, and in his reward. And what is his reward? Joy, gladness, peace of conscience, assurance of
God’s love sealed in the heart by the pure Spirit of the Lord, the streams of Life flowing forth
continually from the great deep, which refresh and keep cool in the greatest extremity and heat
of temptation; and this is enjoyed by those that have waited and do wait for it; even in the body
they bear witness of Him and his coming. What was the witness of his disciples? "The Son of God
has come and has given us an understanding." Of what? Of God, of his day, of his appearance, of his
power, of his wisdom, of his kingdom, of hope, of faith, of assurance, of peace, of joy, of comfort
and consolation. What? In this life? Yes, a cloud of witnesses I might bring in former ages, and also
in this age, blessed be the Lord; but my witness that gives me assurance, is nearer me than all
their witnesses, although they are all true. Abraham, the father of the faithful, and of the righteous,
who believed in God and was accepted, saw Christ’s day and was glad; that is, by faith; yes, he and all
that ever saw Christ’s day, or the Father, saw Him by faith; by faith they saw Him who is invisible:
"Behold! God is my salvation." Isaiah 12:2. What! Do you enjoy it already? Yes, He has become
my salvation; and Simeon, who waited for the consolation of Israel, said: "Now let your servant depart
in peace, for my eyes have seen your salvation." Luke 2:30. And this he said, who knew comfort
and consolation: "As the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation abounds by Christ." They
were made partakers of his Divine nature, and sat together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: and they
that are in Him, and enjoy Him, who is the power of God, and the wisdom of God, know rest; and
peace, and salvation, both from guilt and acts of sin. . . Those, who have not come to the day, do not
know God’s work in themselves; and those, who have not yet heeded that in themselves, which manifests
all things reprovable, and which reproves, have not yet come to know the appearance of the glimmering
of light or of the day in themselves, which the saints witness in themselves, even all of those that
are sanctified.

From George Fox's Letter #172:

So everyone of us, that has come to the seed of God, that bruises the serpent's head, that led man from
God, who is the prince of the world, the prince of darkness, and the prince of the air, the father of lies,
a murderer from the beginning; the corrupter of mankind, the author of the separation from God, and
the original of sin, the beginning of it, which led man from his dominion over the handiworks of God;
which the royal seed Christ, destroys, and renews man again in the image of God, and brings
him again to his dominion over the handiworks of God. And this hundreds of thousands are
now witnessing; by which they come to be kings, and redeemed from the earth and come to be
made kings upon the earth, in the image of God, over the handiworks of God, in the wisdom
by which they were created....Among these Christ is king, which thousands witness. Among
these he is king.

And the Apostles further testified to living in his Kingdom too:

Paul said: Who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into the
kingdom of his dear Son. Col 1:13
Paul again: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. Gal 2:20
So Paul (and others) had been delivered from sin, had been translated into the Kingdom of Christ, and
were living in union with Christ.

John said: I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the
kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9
(John had been in tribulation, and was in the Kingdom)

For his return is to purified believers, in all generations, who have prepared the way of
the Lord, making his beaten paths straight, by repentance through grace, to crucify the
sinful nature. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions
and desires. Gal 5:24
The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display,
Nor will people say, Look! Here ! or, See, there!
For behold, the kingdom of God is within you and among you. Luke 17:20-21

Repentance and the cross yield purity and then to see God!
He, who has been hidden within, is revealed; the Revelation of Jesus Christ, within the purified believer.
The second death exerts no power or authority over those who have crucified the sinful nature; they shall
be ministers of God and of Christ (the Messiah), and they shall rule along with Him a thousand years.
The cross is bearable, but not easy. It is not easy to lose your life. It is not easy to forsake everything. It is
not easy to suffer. So any alternative to the cross, which supposedly allows one to escape Hell, is
eagerly received; and false doctrines and lies have quickly become pervasive. (See Suffering and
Tribulation for more on suffering.)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap
to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall
be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But
what will you do in the end? Jer 5:31

For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross
of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame.
Their mind is on earthly things. Phil 3:18-19

The ministers of the deficit sects tell their members that they are righteous, even while they are still
sinning, sin being wickedness.
He that says to the wicked, 'You are righteous;' him shall the people curse, nations
shall abhor him. Pro 24:24
All the pastors and ministers shall be cursed, who lied, saying that with belief in Jesus, you are
righteous while still locked in sin.
In effect, the ministers of today tell their members: don't seek, don't obey, don't fear, don't strive -
saying there is no need, because of grace, your supposed license for immorality and excuse for remaining
in sin.
Yet Paul instructed ministers thus: "Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest
also may fear." 1 Tim 5:20

The Jews, incorrectly interpreting the Scriptures, rejected Christ, expecting a physical King to
appear. Similarly, one hundred generations of Christendom, incorrectly interpreting the Scriptures,
have rejected listening to and obeying Christ within them, expecting an outward appearance;
expecting Christ to physically appear to be King of the whole world, thereby missing the possibility
of preparing for his inward, individual spiritual appearance in them. This is a major deception
with disastrous consequences to those so deceived. Prize your time; use it wisely, for it is
finite. For more on this subject, see The Second Appearance of Jesus.

The gospel, promising the Kingdom by repentance, has been ignored. Instead, life-long sin
is preached, which is a devastating deficit in all the sects; a 180° departure from righteousness;
not even aiming at, much less approaching John the Baptist's righteousness, of whom the least in
the Kingdom of Heaven is greater. Let no one think themselves unworthy to enter the Kingdom
by repentance, for even the prostitutes and tax collectors were entering in Jesus' time, Mat 21:31-32.The
Holy Way...the simple ones and fools, shall not err in it and lose their way. Isa 35:8. His grace
is sufficient for all men and women to enter, but first, we must all repent.

Are you a friend of Jesus? In the past God overlooked ..ignorance,

but now he commands all
You are my friends, people everywhere to repent.
if you do what I command. Acts 17:30
John 15:14

Do you love Jesus? We must be brought under the control

of God by repentance.
If anyone loves me, he will Voice of the Lord 10/20/06

obey my teaching.

[click to see Obeying Awake to righteousness, and sin not;

Commands ] for some have not the knowledge of God:
I speak this to your shame. 1 Cor 15:34

Everyone talks about how Jesus is so forgiving; true, but after forgiveness he says, sin
no more!
To the adulteress: I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and sin no more. John 8:11
To one healed: Behold, you are made whole: sin no more least a worse thing come unto
you. John 5:14
Christendom doesn't have a clue how to be freed from sin, and pretends it is impossible.
But Jesus said: Sin no more! Repent or perish!
 If you think you have been born again, do you still sin?

Who has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him;
and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
1 John 3:9
In this the children of God and
the children of the devil are manifest:
Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God,
nor is he who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:10

Jesus said, If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life
maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your
foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two
feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for
you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into
hell. Mark 9:43-47.
He doesn't want us to maim ourselves. He is only illustrating how serious continuing to
sin is.
Jesus is desperately trying to tell us that to enter the Kingdom and escape hell, sin has to go.
He knew false ministers with false gospels promising freedom to continue to sin would
arise after he left.
Changes in our heart through the missing cross to purity can take away the desire of
the hand, foot, and eye to cause us to sin.

Sinners can't live in heaven, or heaven would be Hell. Only former sinners go to
heaven. Until all sin is removed from you heart, until you are purified; you cannot be in
the company of God- for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 Cor 6:14. No one wants children, who lie,
or steal, or envy, or get angry, or constantly want something more, or are drunken, or
are violent, or wrongfully use others, or cheat - or are disobedient to one's commands.

Everyone has to be purified first, and it cannot be instantly done on earth or in the next
life. We must learn to loathe and hate our selfish motives and desires before they can
be removed to purify us; or else we would drift back into the same selfish patterns of
sin. Everyone is going to be purified; voluntarily in this life by the cross, or involuntarily
in the next life with far greater pain, difficulty, and loss. See Is there Hope for All for details.

The Kingdom's availability to us has been forgotten; and godless men's false doctrines
deny the necessity of repentance, which prevent our entry into the Kingdom and leave
us captive to sin. For today's deficit sects have a form [shell] of godliness, but are
without power, even denying the power of God to change us to a sinless state. The
deficit sects have lost the true gospel of Christ and the cross of Christ, both of which are
the power of God. So, all of deficit sects are in the ditch, led by there by blind guides.
Christ's blood sacrifice and gospel have been trampled under foot by these deficit sects
that have made peace with the enemy; some even denying there is an enemy; but
all surrendering their members to sin as inevitable, without fighting the good fight of
faith; sin being licensed by false grace. Jesus said, 'I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is
a slave to sin.' John 8:34. By betraying their members to a life-long slavery to sin, these
deficit sects crown sin the master, excluding Christ as Master, for one cannot serve
two masters. Within the deficit sects, the man of sin rules. -- Come out of her my people,
and I will be a father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters.

These 30,000 so-called Christian sects are Babylon painted to look like Zion, deceiving
all the nations into her spiritual adultery and fornications. The whole world follows
this beast with horns like a lamb, with many names, and power given him to extend
his authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. The deficit sects
pretend that Christ is their husband; but these false churches are the whore of
Babylon, which substitute superstitious ritual for obedience to Christ's commands to
repent, his teachings, his requirements, his warnings, his required holiness, his gospel,
his Kingdom, his promised freedom from sin, and his cross of self-denial - the Missing
Cross to Purity. This mystery of iniquity is permitted by God to test the elect's commitment
to truth. (See Babylon and Apostasy for more).

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,

who put darkness for light,
and light for darkness.
Isaiah 5:20

Jesus died in his love for us, so that he could purify us for himself a peculiar people, zealous
for good works, who show the power and love of God to the world; so he could free us from sin, to truly
be our ruling Lord and King in word and deed; so we could be changed to be like Him, in this life,
by the way of the cross; and so we could participate in the divine nature, in union with Him
and God, in His Kingdom of Heaven, while on earth, and then forever.

All of these these wonderful promises require repentance to purity, for it is only in likeness that union
can occur. Almost everyone in Christendom missed it. But for us, it is not too late - to believe
the power of the true good news, and realize the power of the cross, to enter the Kingdom
of Heaven in this life through repentance: to realize the good news that Jesus came to preach! Victory
over sin and death is available.

Does Jesus know you? Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven

is near.
My sheep know my voice, Matthew 4:17

and I know them, and they

Rouse yourselves and keep awake,
follow me [obey].
John 10:27
and strengthen and invigorate
what remains
[click to see Obedience ] and is on the point of dying;
for I have not found a thing that you
have done
meeting the requirements of My God
or perfect in His sight. Revelation 3:2

Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2 Tim 2:19

Paul said: "to become wise, one must first acknowledge they are ignorant."
Unless you know that you are a slave to sin, you will never get free.
So the first step to freedom from sin is to look at your slavery.
From the voice of the Lord: "Those who refuse to look at their slavery say, 'Church me.'"

It comes down to a choice of how you want to live:

1. as a selfish human in slavery to your anger, pride, lusts, passions and pleasures with
no lasting satisfaction, or

2. rather be dedicated to actions and words that are pure, true, noble, clean,
peaceful, joyful, beneficial to others around you, and full of love for your creator - while
in union with your creator in his Kingdom- with him loving and treasuring you in return, to
your eternal satisfaction?

And thanks be to God, the record is preserved for us how George Fox and hundreds of
thousands "children of the light" uncovered the true good news, always before us, but hidden by lies,
and claimed the power again to enter the Kingdom of God. George Fox reestablished the true gospel,
the power of God, that had been lost for 1260 years and was later lost again, even by the Quakers
he founded. For those of you who want to see and hear your Savior teach you personally, leading
you through repentance and the cross to union with God in the Kingdom of Heaven, the below is
presented. For he calls us all to repentance, Christhood, and the Kingdom of Heaven. Let those who
can hear, hear!

The gospel of repentance and remission of sins to the Kingdom, with the missing cross,
the Power of God, is:

1) God's peace to you. Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, but specially those who believe
his true message, does not condemn us, but with our sorrow for the past and resolve to do better,
rather says peace and extends to us forgiveness for whatever the past. If you seriously wish to please
God, whatever the price, he asks you to trust Christ to lead you to purity and then heaven on earth; for
the Kingdom of God is within you and does not come with signs to be observed or
visible display, in which is everlasting peace and joy.

He doesn't just forgive past sins; he destroys it in us - if we let him and trust him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [revealed in us] that he might destroy the works [sin in
us] of the devil. 1 John 3:8
We are led through repentance to the truth and the Kingdom of Heaven by the teaching,
purifying process of grace.

Grace, the unmerited favor of God, is not instant and is not salvation, as widely believed.
From the Voice of the Lord, regarding instant salvation by grace: "It is twisted, pernicious lies."
Grace is a teaching process of repentance from lusts to godly living in purity,
bringing salvation and seeing God.
Grace is correctly defined by the Apostle Paul in Titus 2:11-14:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:11-14

(Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4)

One who still sins might mistakenly argue they are redeemed from every lawless deed, but not that
grace has purified them!
And when the true grace has purified from all iniquity, you see God, because the pure in heart see God. Mat 5:8

From the Voice of the Lord: "Where there is obedience, there is righteousness; without it, you have
World War II."
Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior.
Does anyone believe Hitler, saying Jesus was his Lord, made him his Lord? I pray not. Saying does
not make it so.
Does anyone believe Hitler was a sinner saved by grace? I pray not. To be saved, is to be purified by
grace. Tit 2:14

See True Grace vs. False Grace for additional doctrine regarding grace.
If you think saying or believing Jesus is Lord, or baptism is all that is needed, see the Missing Cross.

Let everyone who names the name of the Lord give up all iniquity and stand aloof from it. 2 Tim 2:19

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32

Having these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
and spirit,
perfecting holiness in the fear of God, 2 Cor 7:1 (The task is to perfect holiness! But trust Christ to
lead you perfectly!)

The Holy Way. The unclean shall not pass over it, but it shall be for the redeemed;
the wayfaring men, yes, the simple ones and fools, shall not err in it and lose their way. Isa 35:8

That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve
him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74. (Perfect love expels
all fear. 1 John 4:18)

He has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in
the divine nature
and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. 2 Peter 1:4 (The reward for completion of
the task.)

This is the way, walk ye in it. Isaiah 30:21

You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are
pleasures forevermore. Psa 16:11

2) Repentance to purity and union with Christ and God in

the Kingdom while on earth is:

● You must seek first his Kingdom and his righteousness, and all else will
be added. Mat 6:33
(You must make this your life's first priority- to obtain the Kingdom and His righteousness within you,
and then all your material needs will also be supplied by God.)

Seek the Lord and His strength; yearn for and seek His face, to be in His
presence continually! 1 Chr 16:11
His strength is the power to purify you, so you can see his face - see God. In the Kingdom, you are in
his presence continually!

The Lord is good to those who wait for Him, to the soul who seeks Him. Lam 3:25

Those who seek me early and diligently shall find me. Pro 8:17 (The younger you start, the
less difficulty.)

Keep on seeking and you will find. Mat 7:7. Seek the face of God to appear within you.
To seek God, find him, and be united with him is the single and sole purpose of life. He
[God] has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and
has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should
seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not
far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being; one God and Father of all, who
is over all and through all and in you all.

..Seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with
all your soul. Deu 4:29

● For at least an hour, on a daily basis, in private, get quiet, and

think on the name of Jesus

So a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the Lord and who meditate on
His name. Mal 3:16

But as many as received him, he gave to them power to become the sons of God, even to them
that believe on his name. John 1:12

Before Christ, to receive the favor of God, you had to closely follow the Law; God ignored those who
ignored his Law.
Jesus made it possible for all with regret for whatever our past sins and belief in Him to approach God
to receive his purifying power.
 John says receiving him or just belief on the name of Jesus gives us the power to become sons of God,
not be sons of God.
He who overcomes [the sinful nature, by repentance on the daily inward cross of self-denial] .. shall
be My son. Rev 21:7

This is how to use that power to become a son of God. His name is the power to access purification
and then his leading.

Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. Rom 8:14

Why Silence? Because he said after praying the Lord's prayer: Do not keep on babbling like pagans,
for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father
knows what you need before you ask him. Mat 6:7-8

Be still, and know that I am God; Psalm 46:10

It is good that one should hope and wait quietly for the salvation of the Lord. Lam 3:26

● Listen,Watch. Be quiet to hear the Teacher, the living Word of

God, Jesus.
To learn from Him, get cleansed by Him, be led by Him, and come to know Him.

Faith Comes by Hearing the Word of God - Jesus speaking to you, not someone reading the Bible.
If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20
He does not talk to you through the Bible. You have to hear his voice, the Spirit.
The Bible refers to Bible verses as scriptures. The Bible refers to the Word of the Lord or God as spoken
or spirit.
You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which
testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40
The letter kills, the Spirit give life, 2 Cor 3:6. See My Sheep Hear My Voice for details.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, ...
He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; securely.. Luke 6:47-48
He can't make it any plainer: Come to Me, listen to My words (not the Bible), and do them.
Doing his words, is to obey his spoken orders. If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.
My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:22-23
Their home is a Kingdom that comes without outward signs or visible display, where you live in union
with them.

Jesus said, It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.'
Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me. John 6:45

"Mary chose the good part, which cannot

be taken."
To learn at the feet of Jesus. Luke 10:39-42

If you are quiet and listen, you can hear the

Holy Spirit convict, convince, and judge you.
John 16:8

the LORD searches all hearts and understands

all the intent of the thoughts. 1 Chron 28:9

The words that I speak to you are spirit,

and they are life. John 6:63

Therefore consider carefully how you

listen. Whoever has will be given more. Luke 8:18

If those who hear will obey, their

progress will be swift.
Voice of the Lord 03/04/8

My sheep hear my voice Christ is the Light that enlightens all men
and women in the world. John 1:9

The light, which light is the life in Christ,

will also show you your condition, what is in your heart;
loving it, the light will change you and purify you,
as you repent, carrying your cross.
Believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. John 12:36

You need no teacher other than the anointing within you. 1 John 2:27

That which may be known of God is manifest [revealed] within them, for God has shown it to them. Rom 1:19
(Note: Paul is saying, whatever is to be learned about God is to be revealed within a man.)

He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness,
etc. Gal 5:22-23)
 Unless you abide in me, you cannot produce fruit. John 15:4
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered;
and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.
To abide in Christ is to wait, listen, watch, and remain in his Light and Living Word, (not
the Bible).

Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

See Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself, How to Receive Cleansing, and Fox's outstanding Why Silence?
for more.

● Obey what you already know and any new commands received
Jesus said: he who loves me, obeys my commands - what you hear him tell you to do

Conduct your life in obedience to what you already know, in obedience to God;
you will not be condemned for what you don't know, but only condemned for what you know and choose
not to obey.
George Fox

Jesus said, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19
(Zealous - Ardent, enthusiastic in pursuit of an object) When rebuked, work hard to repent from
whatever he shows you.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. John 14:22

He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
(And how do you obey Him to attain salvation?)

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

This was John the Baptist's simple message of beginning repentance:

Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct. Matt 3:2
Share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain. Luke 3:10-14

Other simple rules to start are: flee from sexual immorality, don't take oaths (i.e. swear to tell the truth),
don't look back, prize your time and the love of God above all. (See Coming Out of the World for
more detail.)

Until you are guided by the Spirit of God, with personalized commands, the Law is your schoolmaster.
See Obedience is Still Required for more.

● Practice generous acts of LOVE and kindness energized through faith

Defer (yield) to other's wishes unless it is dangerous, immoral, or of major consequence

(this is a major giving up your own will to others -denying self - increasing Him)

From your excess, practice generously giving to others (particularly the poor)

Forgive the unjust offenses committed by others against you. "Mercy triumphs over judgment." James 2:13

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal 5:6

Let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Hebrews 10:24

Above all, love each other deeply, for LOVE covers a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8
(for more see, Love Your Neighbor on the sidebar)

● Don't witness, teach, or preach until you are directly ordered to!
He did not want man to bear witness about him, because he knew what was in their hearts. John 2:25

Even Jesus did not judge, speak, or act without the Spirit's specific prompting:
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, John 5:30
whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50
the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);
but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing, John 5:19

Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?
Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen. John 3:11
(Not what you have read about, not what you have heard from others.)

You who.. are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not
steal, do you steal? Rom 2:19-21

To witness, preach, or teach without the Holy Spirit's specific promptings, is to estimate yourself
 above Jesus.
Until you are purified with the Spirit speaking through you,
your witnessing, teaching, and preaching will not reach the holy part of each person;
and your spiritual growth will be retarded or stopped.
People, who teach without specific authority by God, can't hear God's voice, reach purity, or enter
the Kingdom;
because they are in spiritual captivity, having led others into spiritual captivity by teaching errors.

My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
James 3:1

He who does not gather with me scatters. Luk 11:23, Mat 12:30 (To gather with him, is by his direction).
When you witness, teach, or preach for him, not with him, you are scattering the sheep.
To gather with him, is to gather with his specific promptings, and words supplied at that moment.
If you lead someone to the Lord without his specific instructions, your convert is twice as fit for
Hell as yourself.

Only be ready to tell someone if they ask about your hope. 1 Pet 3:15
(But only if asked! Then you answer because you have to be truthful.)

I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, do not stir up nor awaken love, until it pleases. Song 8:4

(Don't even talk about God or Christ until you hear him authorize you to. Instead give to, and love
those, around you.)

From George Fox's Letter 316:

Such as talk of Christ, and do not walk in him,
such as profess him, and do not possess him,
such as live not in the religion that was set up above sixteen hundred years since,
such as profess Christ the way, and walk not in the way, the truth, and the life;
all such talkers, and not walkers, are dishonorers of God,
and cause his holy name to be blasphemed among such as make no profession.

Don't do anything for God, until you are told exactly what to do, and told precisely when to do it.
If so ordered, do only that, nothing more, nothing less; and return to your home, to silent
waiting on the Lord.

(And yes, the Lord commanded we publish this web site, with His frequent corrections, additions,
and specifications.)

● Trust Him to lead you to purity and the Kingdom of God within you.
Enjoy the good things of this life with thanks and praise to our great and wonderful God.

Be happy! You are showing your love for God by picking up your cross daily. He will increase in you.

The same grace that shows you your sins, cleanses you of them, washing them away one at at time, over time.

Jesus said, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me.” John 13:8. By mercy and truth iniquity is
purged from the heart.

Be patient. It took the disciples over three years, but you will be encouraged and thrilled by Him.

Along the way, you will be sifted and tested; passing, you will receive a significant additional measure of
His spirit.

Soon after, he will return within you in glory for final judgment and lead you to
paradise, another dimension, the Kingdom of Heaven within and among you.

This is the power of his name and the power of the cross to change us on this side of the grave and make
us like Him; he can be resurrected in us to be our true Lord, and we can enter his glorious
Kingdom, paradise. This Christ and gospel destroys sexual immorality, impurity, debauchery, greed,
hatred, lying, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, envy, drunkenness; who
have these cannot inherit the Kingdom of God . You cannot please God continuing to live
in the flesh. You must let Christ change you through repentance and replace them with
the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness, and self-control. Change occurs through the power of the cross and the
saving, changing grace of God, accessed by faith in the name of Jesus Christ. When you bear
(produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified, and you show and prove yourselves to
be true followers of mine. John 15:8

Belief in the true gospel and the cross, to realize the promise, releases the power of God
to purify you and make you one with Him. The cross of Christ, which is the power of
God, crucifies your sinful nature and selfish will through repentance as follows:

● seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, as 1st priority, is an act of repentance and a cross
to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
 ● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is
a cross to your will
(In the Light, is where you get changed, where your peace increases, as you repent. This is where you
abide in Him.)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness and give- it is
a cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if you repent and defer
- it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

Jesus said: except you repent, you shall all likewise perish. Luke 13:3,5

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

This is the beginning of the cross. There is also suffering with the cross, for when you have been
prepared sufficiently by his grace and teachings, you will enter tribulation, to further the death of your
sinful nature. Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the
same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result,
he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet 4:1-2.
For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory
which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:18. Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my
disciple. Luke 14:27

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps
1 Pet 2:21

Those who belong to Christ Jesus

have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

For we know that our old self was crucified

with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. 2 Tim 2:11-12

I am the Light of the world,

whoever follows me shall not walk in darkness,
but will have the Light of Life. John 8:12

Rejoice, you have found the narrow way that leads to Life that few find. Mat. 7:13

If you think you are exempt from the cross because you "believe" or have been "baptized,"
See the Missing Cross and then read Ambrose Rigge's Guide

Blessed Are the Pure in Heart for They Shall See God. Matthew 5:8
And soon after, you enter the Kingdom of Heaven to experience everlasting joy and peace.

That he would grant unto us,

that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him
without fear,
in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-5

He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6

Diligence - continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal;
laborious; persevering.

He Awaits You!

This gospel comes from the Bible, confirmation from one-on-one teachings from Christ, (See Jesus
Wants to Teach You Himself), and the validity of attainment testified in the Journal and Letters
of George Fox, and others, all on this site.. (See the side bar). They show us adoration for Christ
and God, a spiritual path of how to meet with fellow seekers, how to conduct our lives, and for those
who hunger and thirst after righteousness, brief descriptions of the forgotten rewards : (NOW! In
this life, not after the grave!)

● first to become free of all sin; not just forgiven, but the inclination removed,
● to become one with Christ and the Father,
● fellowship in heaven with Christ and the Father, 1 John 1:3
● fellowship in the spirit with fellow believers' spirits,
● being the grateful possessors of love, peace, joy, self-control, patience, kindness, and goodness,
● to live in paradise, the Kingdom of Heaven within you, and still be on the earth too.
From George Fox's Journal:

True religion is the true rule and right way of serving God. And religion is a pure stream of
righteousness flowing from the image of God, and is the life and power of God planted in the heart and
mind by the law of life. This brings the soul, mind, spirit, and body to be conformable to
God, the Father of spirits, and to Christ; so that they come to have fellowship with the
Father and the Son, and with all his holy angels and saints. This religion is pure from
above, undefiled before God, leads to visit the fatherless, widows, and strangers, and keeps from the spots
of the world. This religion is above all the defiled, spotted religions in the world, that keep not
from defilements and spots, but leave their believers impure, below, and spotted; whose fatherless,
widows, and strangers beg up and down the streets.

and:

Sometimes there would be two hundred of the poor of other people to come and wait until the meeting
was done, for all the country knew we met about the poor; and after the meeting, Friends would send to
the bakers for bread, and give everyone of those poor people a loaf, however many there were of them;
for we were taught 'to do good to all, though especially to the household of faith.'

and:

Declining followers, he said: this showed that they did not really understand us or our principles very
well; but when I heard of it, I said, ‘it was time for me to be gone; for if their eye was so much to me, or
any of us, they would not come to their own teacher.' [Christ within: the True Light, that gives light to
all men coming into the world]. For this thing (hiring ministers), had spoiled many, by hindering them
from improving their own talents; whereas our labor is to bring everyone to their own teacher
in themselves.

George Fox's writings clearly document the hope of purity and the Kingdom realized through the
changing grace of the Light. With increased hope, we can once again seize the promise - Christ can not
only forgive our sins, but he is powerful enough to bring us from darkness to a sinless state (in this life
on Earth) like Christ, and in Christ, and with Christ, and Christ in us.

OH COME, LET US ADORE HIM (Christ our LORD)!

When we first read George Fox's words, we were reminded of the Jewish Temple guards who were told
by the Pharisees to go and arrest Jesus, teaching there. They returned without arresting him; and
when questioned why, replied: Never has a man talked as this man talks! -- No mere man has
ever spoken as He speaks. John 7:46. George Fox's writings are from the same Authority, he lived
in Christ; and as Paul, Peter, and John, he writes to us while in the Kingdom, in the
presence of God, but in English, with no need of a translator and therefore more clearly stated.

George Fox's Journal is a wonderful autobiography describing his journey to perfect union with Christ,
and his incredibly powerful lifetime ministry of accomplishment, hundreds of thousands with the fullness
of Christ and Life in the Kingdom of God; the most powerful ministry in recorded history. His letters
are spirit breathed words of beauty, breath-taking words of admonition and praise.

What had been lost was the true Gospel - as it has been again today; for if it were alive, we would see
shining examples of Christians walking in the power and spirit of God. For we know that Christ does
not hide a light under a bushel. He certainly did not hide George Fox.

George Fox was the most famous man in England during his time.
Even Oliver Cromwell, the revolutionary "Lord Protector," who deposed King Charles I, was awed by
George Fox.

● He addressed hundreds of thousands of persons.

● The churches would shake when he prayed.
● The power of God chained down those whom he addressed.
● He miraculously avoided many, many attempts on his life.
● He never lost a debate with opposing sects' spokesmen, (a capability promised to his true servants).
● Most of his virulent persecutors died or were ruined, the heritage of true servants of the Lord.
● He was reviled and persecuted for preaching the truth. (Just as Jesus predicted would happen to
his true followers)
● He prophesied the Great Fire of London, Cromwell's demise, the Turk's defeat, etc. (establishing him as
a true prophet)
● Many miracles were also performed by him, including raising the dead; (as Christ said his true
followers would do)

He accomplished all of this "while living in paradise." If you are new to George Fox, start
with Wikipedia Article on George Fox's Life and his letters to get a feel for the maturity in
Christ that he manifested, and then his Autobiographical Journal, especially the first part on his
Early Life and Translation to the Kingdom. Also see: George Fox Selections on True Faith.

Fox and the Early Quakers had three testimonies to the validity of their message of purity:
 1. Love for one another- and love for their enemies
2. Massive Persecution - 13000 were imprisoned, 200 sent to slavery.3. Many Signs
and Miracles accompanied their ministry and gospel.

Their gospel promisespurity by grace that brings salvation,

by showing your sins and them taking them away. They witnessed salvation: seeing
Godand fellowship with the Father and Christ.

The Journal and Letters of George Fox,

This site features the writings of George Fox, the 17th century English founder of the original Quakers,
(the Quakers today are just another deficit sect), who was clearly controlled by
the Spirit of Christ. His ministry covered 48 years. Reading the
first parts of his autobiographical Journal, you will get a
good understanding of the true church of Christ.

He also left four hundred ten letters which represent (perhaps)

the largest collection of spirit breathed communications in
existence. They are an inspiration, a road map, and a challenge to
all who seek the maximum possible relationship with God. They
are excellent reading for hope, understanding of the true character
of the church of Christ, and how to live a godly life. They are
filled with adoration for our wonderful, almighty,
powerful God and deep love for his fellow believers
in Christ.

His inspiring translation to paradise is detailed and concludes with being raised by Christ
up to the state of Adam and Eve before the fall, still capable of falling to temptation
and then raised to the state of Christ, beyond Adam's state and not subject to falling
to temptation.

His later ministry is the most powerful in recorded history. He started and guided a movement that
resulted in hundreds of thousands of men and women reaching full maturity in Christ, living in
the Kingdom of God. At his death there were 650,000 Quakers in England, (10% of England's
population), and many more throughout the world. Many letters are included in the Journal which he
wrote to the unconvinced and so called "christians" of the world in England and America.

He was arrested over sixty times to be taken before the courts; he spent six and one half years in
deplorable prisons, unjustly persecuted by those who wanted to silence his holy words and put out the
light of Christ that exposed their nakedness. He was critical of the religious leaders of his time, just as
Jesus was critical of the hypocrites in his day. He, along with thousands of early Quakers, were
viciously persecuted by the Calvinist Puritans [Congregationalists], Presbyterians, Baptists,
and Episcopalians.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the great poet and philosopher, who along with William Wordsworth was one
of the founders of the Romantic Movement in England, wrote of Fox the following:

"One assertion I will venture to make, as suggested by my own experience, that there exists folios on
the human understanding and the nature of man, which would have a far more just claim to their high
rank and celebrity, if in the whole huge volume there could be found as much fullness of heart and
intellect as bursts forth in many a simple page of George Fox." ( from his Biographia Literaria).

His dear Friend, William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, described him as "civil beyond all
forms of breeding " and "he was in his praying the most awful, living, reverent frame I
ever felt or beheld." Penn summarized the life of Fox with this epitaph, testifying to his prominence
in Christ:

"Many sons have done virtuously in this day, but dear George, thou excellest them all."

William Penn's biography with several of his famous books are also on this site, including his
wonderfully inspiring Introduction to George Fox's Journal; with an excellent description of the
true church of Christ; and his personal witness of Fox's incredible possession of Christ in
words, power, strength, and humility. Penn inspires us with a melodious and enlivening account
of the glorious outbreak of the true church, its simplicity and innocence; being established through
God's chosen instrument, George Fox.

OTHER EARLY QUAKER NOTABLES

There are several more eminent early Quaker's writings also on this site. In
the fifty years after the start of George Fox's ministry, 528 Quakers wrote
2800 books and pamphlets. They all testified to the gospel of purity through
the cross of Christ, which resulted in union with God through Christ,
and entering their Kingdom, while still on earth.

Biographies, memoirs, and letter collections are included for several giants
in Christ, including Margaret Fell, William Penn, Isaac Penington, Francis Howgill, Edward
Burrough, William Dewsbury, George Whitehead, Stephen Crisp, Ambrose Rigge, John Burnyeat,
and James Parnell. Their lives and letters are all inspirational and a clear testimony to the validity of
the true gospel of Christ, showing the way to be free of sin and to experience true deliverance to holiness
and purity, by and union with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Each person has the same message, but with individual wisdom and counsel to bring to all pilgrims,
seeking the face of their Beloved, to the true path to union with Him in the promise land, the Kingdom
of Heaven. As you read their writings, you realize you are reading words given from the Holy Spirit of God
- the same as Peter's, Paul's, and John's writings. The early Quaker writings were all in English, avoiding
any vagaries introduced by translations - actually making the Bible more understandable and
acceptable. Truly they were magnificent in their measure of Christ, as their writings show the love they
had for each other, for God, and the grievous persecutions they all endured. In a prophecy from the
Lord declared by Mary Howgill, the Lord said: "they shall leave a more clear and
heavenly declaration upon record, than my servants heretofore have done, and it shall
stand to ages, and in generations to come, that they may see how God manifested
himself unto his people in a day of great suffering".

Edward Burrough wrote of the Lord's purpose for the Quakers in England: He will have his name,
exalted and reverenced in this island, [England] and his terror shall be sent out of it through
the world, and his branch from it shall spread over the earth.

Quakers were named "Quakers" because they "trembled" when the Lord spoke to them. They trembled
at the Word of the Lord.

This is the one I esteem: he who is humble and contrite in spirit, and trembles at my word. Isa 66:2
Hear the word of the Lord, you who tremble at his word. Isa 66:5
Oh, worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness! Tremble before Him, all the earth. Psalm 96:9
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We are unaffiliated with any of the deficit sects, Quakers included, or religions, (come out of her my people), because we have not found
any group that shares our faith and hope for the Kingdom with the necessity of purity by the cross to enter. Thanks to NASA for the
Hubble photographs of Christ's creation used in this site. A special thanks to Dorothea Killus, Deutschland, for the photograph of her
sculpture of Christ speaking to his sheep. Thanks to Wikipedia for the Article on George Fox's life.

Understanding that Fox's Journal, Letters, and several other writings are all available free on this site, including PDF downloads; if you
want books written by George Fox, the best available Journal is by John Nickalls sold by Friends General Conference Bookstore, paperback
$22; this version is better than the Rufus Jones version; unlike Jones, Nickalls retains all the crucial experiences of Fox. The
completely unabridged Journal and the 410 Letters are included in The Works of George Fox (Journal, Letters, and Doctrinal Books - a set of
8 hard cover books for $160, a very reasonable price), available from the USA New Foundation Fellowship. In the UK, the Nickalls Journal
and The Works of George Fox are available at from the UK New Foundation site. Remember the language in all of these books is 17th and
18th Century English. You can view The Works of George Fox in original PDF format on this site.

If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
John 7:37

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself

They will all be taught by God

John 6:45

Come unto me, .. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; ..
Mat 11:28-29

But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you,
and you do not need any man to teach you:
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you,
you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.
When you have clicked to the on-line Bible, you can change and update to see any Bible version that you prefer.

Table of Contents This web site is trying to show you how to

be taught and changed by Jesus
1. Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself himself. Christ is the Light
2. Grow by Studying the Word? that enlightens all men, John 1:9. You
2.1 Bible is words - Christ is the Word of God have no need of any teacher other than
2.2 Holy Spirit does not teach by the Bible the anointing you have received, 1 John 2:27.
2.3 Christ Criticized Bible Students By being quiet and thinking on his name,
3. Jesus said Come to Me you can hear him - you can hear the
3.1 He is in you living Word of God, Christ. Here is where
3.2 He is all the teacher you need you learn from Him, get cleansed
3.3 Faith by Hearing Jesus speak by Him, be led by Him, and come to
3.4 Wait on the Lord know Him. He dwells with you, the Spirit
4. Can't He Teach Me While I Study the Bible of Truth, ready to teach you and lead
5. Am I not supposed to keep the words of the Bible? you through repentance to purity by
5.1 Impossibility without changing grace grace; and then to Christ's return to
5.2 Repentance with receipt of grace establish in glory God's Kingdom of
6. How about my preacher teaching me? Heaven within you and with
6.1 He is exactly the modern Pharisee His righteousness.
6.2 Asking for money is forbidden
6.3 Tithing died with Christ
He wants to teach you about himself and
6.4 He is a false prophet
lead you through repentance to a
7. Should I stop going to church?
sinless state so you can enter the Kingdom
7.1 God must be worshiped in spirit and truth
of Heaven within you that comes
7.2 It is a form of godliness without power
without signs to be observed or visible
7.3 Your church is not in the rest
display. We can be taught by God in this life
7.4 It believes Christ excuses sin
in relative ease, or we can painfully be
7.5 Have nothing to do with people who excuse sin
taught by God in the next life, for it is
7.6 Come out of her my people
written: They will all be taught by
8. Go to Christ to be taught and grow
God. John 6:45. He said: "If anyone loves
me, he will obey my teaching. My
Father will love him, and we will come to
him and make our home with him." This is the return of Christ to establish his Kingdom in your
heart, which the world does not see. But to get there, you have to be taught by Jesus himself and obey
his teaching, which leads to repentance. I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth.
Selections from George Fox John 15:26. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26
Can't I grow in Christ just studying the "Word?"

The Bible is the recorded words of the saints as they were moved by the Holy Spirit to write. Christ is
the Word of God, not the Bible; it has his recorded words in them, but they are without spirit;
recorded words are the letter, not the spirit. When Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter and Paul spoke of
the scriptures, they used the word scriptures, (click to see), not the Word of God. The Bible refers
to Bible verses as scriptures; the Bible refers to the Word of the Lord or God as spoken or spirit.
Scriptures and spirit are not interchangeable. There is no conflict in what has been written by the Spirit
of God with what you will hear God speak to you; but what you hear will be exactly tailored to your
condition and will be words that give life.

To understand what is written in the Bible, you need to be in the same spirit as the saints, who wrote
the words, (for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life). If you were in the same spirit as those who wrote
the words, you would have nothing to learn from the Bible; you would have the mind of Christ. Since
you don't, you can study the Bible for the rest of your life, yet many passages will not be truly understood
by you; you will be always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Think about it; you can read
a passage today and read the same passage three months later and get a different meaning - that is
not growth; rather that is your mind coming to a different conclusion without the Holy Spirit in either
case showing you what it meant. The meaning changes as you change. That is not good. There is only
one meaning, and it is written, no scripture is for private interpretation.

The Holy Spirit can reveal understandings in any language; but Bible Colleges teach from Hebrew,
Greek, and Latin Biblical texts, desperately trying to discover the true meaning of the scriptures. If the
Holy Spirit was helping in Bible study, Greek, Hebrew, and Latin would not be needed, proving Jesus
and the Holy Spirit do not teach you while reading the Bible.

In 1515, before the Bible was published, there were far less than 100 sects in Christendom. Five
hundred years of studying the Bible later, there are 30,000 sects. It is man's fleshly mind, rather than
the Holy Spirit, that controls learning from Bible study; for the Holy Spirit's purpose is to
have oneness of faith; yet there are 30,000 sects in Christendom, each with a different set of beliefs
in what the Bible really means. This is massive evidence that studying the Bible creates the
opposite of what the Holy Spirit desires, (one faith) and does not result in truth. Instead of
Bible study, we need to be taught directly by the Holy Spirit [by listening] who desires to teach us all
things. John 14:26

Christ criticized the Bible teachers and students of his time, when he said: (to the Pharisees)

But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which
testify of Me. John 5:38-9
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life.John 5:38-40
Here Jesus clearly states a difference between the word and scriptures, (the bible).
And the Word that abides, (lives), in you is clearly better than scriptures.
Paul said, The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart. Rom 10:8
Clearly, the Bible is not in our heart and mouth; it is the spirit of God, the Word of God.
The Word of God is Spirit: Spirit of God, or Holy Spirit, or Spirit of Christ within each of us, where it
lives or abides.

Furthermore, Jesus is not happy: You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:38-39
He is telling people that they substitute studying the Bible for coming directly to him; the Bible only
testifies about him.
And they think studying the Bible gives them eternal life, but the way to eternal life is to go directly to him.
The words we hear are words of eternal life, not the words we read or hear read from the Bible.
Even though the Bible has many truths within, the Bible is not truth. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
The Bible only testifies to the way, the truth, and the Life.
I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth. John 15:26. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things.
John 14:26
If we want the way, or truth, or life; we have to go to him.
He wants us to seek Him, not seek knowledge about him from the Bible.
Studying the Bible is like studying the Law. (Voice of the Lord)
We have made learning scriptures a rival to learning directly from God by Coming to Him.
But scriptures are not wrong; it is the way we idolize scriptures that is wrong.

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Matt 11:28-29
For everyone whocomes to Me and listens to My words and does them.. is like a man building his house
on rock. Luke 6:47-8

You have neither heard the Father's voice nor seen his form. John 5:37
To hear the Father's voice is to hear him speak words from his mouth.
Jesus is telling us that hearing the voice of God is very important to have his Word abide in us.
But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. John 5:38
When we hear his voice and keep his words, then his word abides in us. It lives in us, and
controls us.
If we abide in Christ's word [the spirit], we are his true disciples and we will know the truth.
If a man abides not in me, he is cast forth as a withered branch.... into the fire. John 15:6
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto
you. John 15:7
This is how we seek God. We seek to hear his voice and then treasure what we hear, and obey what he
 tells us to do.
Reading and studying the Bible is not seeking God, or abiding in Him.
The Bible wasn't even printed until 1515, but the early Church thrived to 320 AD.

You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life, and these are they which testify of
Me. John 5:39
So the Bible is not truth, the Bible only testifies about truth. Jesus is the truth. You don't know him
by the Bible.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words
must abide in you.
If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will
set you free. John 8:31-32
To be set free is to be released from captivity. To be released from slavery. To be freed from sin.
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice. John 18:37

Studying the Bible increases your knowledge and therefore increases your pride.
But getting quiet, to listen for and obey the Holy Spirit, will eventually destroy your pride.
So studying the Bible is a work of the flesh.
Jesus said, It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
(And how do you obey Him to attain salvation?)
Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My
people. Jer 7:23

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in
to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20 (hearing his voice does not happen
while reading the Bible)
Jesus has come to teach his people himself. He wants us to come to him and learn of him.

Jesus said: Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy-laden and overburdened, and I will cause you
to rest. Mat 11:28<br />
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest
for your souls. Mat 11:29

How can we learn from him, unless we go to him? He did not say learn from Bible study. He said,
learn from me.
He did not say, come to Bible study, prayer group, or to a religious service; he said come to me.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he
is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon
the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move
it, because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48

He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to me, listen to My words (listen to him
speaking), and do them (obey).
From this sure foundation he builds true faith and hope which purifies you.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23

The above teachings of Jesus are the core message of this web site:
Come to him, Listen to his words, do the words he gives you.
To do the words is to obey his commands, some of which will rebuke and chasten you.
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19
If you Love Jesus, you will obey him. The Father then loves you, and he and Jesus come to you and
make their home with you.
And their home is a Kingdom, the Kingdom of God which is within you and around you.

So, seek, listen, obey. ...Seek, listen, obey.... Persevere, and Christ will lead you through repentance to
union and the Kingdom.
He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him! Heb.11:6
(Diligence is defined as continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal;
laboring; persevering.)

Belief in the true gospel and the cross releases the power of God to purify us and make
us one with Him.
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested [in us], that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8

Allow the little children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of
God. Luke 18:16
We must go to him like little children, humbly.

To hear, we must go to him as a sinner, even if 'saved.' We cannot go exalting ourselves.

And still you are not willing to come to Me, so that you might have life. John 5:40.This is the way to life.
Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry,
and he who believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me will never thirst any more (at any
time). John 6:35
Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God Mat4:4
And we need words from the mouth of God, daily. We need our daily bread from heaven -words from
his mouth.
Give us this day our daily bread. He who takes this Bread for his food shall live forever.

All whom My Father gives (entrusts) to Me will come to Me;

and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out. John 6:37

No one is able to come to Me unless the Father Who sent Me attracts and draws him
and gives him the desire to come to Me,and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:44

If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink! John 7:37

Jesus said, It is written in the Prophets: ' They will all be taught by God.'
Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me. John 6:45 >

So how do we come to him? That is crux of the issue.

Here is what Jesus said: And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there;
believe him not. Mark 13:21

So, he is not found in any deficit sect's building or cathedral, because he does not dwell in a structure
made with human hands. Acts 7:48.
And obviously, anyone claiming to be Christ is not.
(Don't laugh, there really are several people on the Internet who seriously claim they are Christ.
And if you won't buy that, there is one who seriously claims to be the reincarnation of John the Baptist,
and another seriously claiming to be the reincarnated head of the early Church, James, the brother of Jesus.
Of course they all claim to be the source of Truth in this age, and they tell you to follow them, instead
of Christ.)

So where is he? Paul tells us: Do you not yourselves realize and know that Jesus Christ is in you? 2 Cor 13:5

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among
the Gentiles;
which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

The Spirit of God has been poured out on all mankind. Acts 2:17

That which may be known of God is manifest [revealed] within them, Rom 1:19
(Note: Paul is saying, whatever is to be learned about God is to be
revealed within a man.)

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? 1 Cor 3:16

I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall
be My people. 2 Cor 5:1

John tells us:

But the anointing which you have received of him abides you, in

and you do not need not any man to teach you:

but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth,
and is no lie, and even as it has taught you,
you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

They will all be taught by God. John 6:45

He is in you, but to hear him, you have to listen. How else could you listen unless you stop
everything and get quiet to hear?
After you say the Lord's Prayer, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be
heard because of their many words.
Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Mat 6:7-8.

Be still, and know that I am God. Ps 46:10

Be silent, oh all flesh before the Lord. Zech 2:13

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see the George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence?, also on the side bar.
And for guidance in the process of silence, see Miguel de Molinos' The Spiritual Guide, also on the side bar.

He wants you to know him. He wants to teach you. To be taught, you don't decide what the teacher is
going to teach you; the teacher sets the agenda. To listen, you have to stop talking, stop reading, and
stop forming thoughts. John said, if you just believe in his name, you have the power to become a son
of God; the way you use that power is to think on his name, Jesus Christ, as you get quiet to listen
and watch. Think on the name of Jesus Christ, (but not as a repeated mantra), and then stop thought as
best you can. When you find your mind wandering, return to thinking on the name of Jesus Christ.
Listen and Watch and Wait. Then he can teach you what he wants to teach you, according to
the understanding that he, your creator, has of what you need to learn and in what order.

He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how
he wants you to improve, what you should deny, and how to go about it - as well as encourage you, tell
you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself
to reading the Bible, you will only get the crumbs beneath the table.

Remember, the Bible wasn't even printed until 1515. So, the early church thrived in Spirit and
power without the Bible. So, the Bible can't be the Word of God. While seeking, the Bible is good
for maintaining hope; it is good for understanding right vs. wrong, but Christ is the Word of God - that
is one of His names. The Old Testament, which the saints referenced as scriptures, is the recorded
words of the Spirit of God, recorded by the saints - but not the Word of God. "In the beginning was
the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1-3. "And he was clothed with a
vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God... and on his thigh a
name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS " Rev 19:13-16. To see all the references to
Word of God in the scriptures, click here. To see the references to scriptures, click here.

NOW consider this scripture: "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. " Rom 10:17.
Dear ones, faith is received when you hear the Word of God, Christ
himself speaking to you.
Faith does not come from hearing the words of God read out of the Bible, however wonderful and true
the recorded words are.
The Apostle Paul reminds us, "But what does it (scripture) say? The word is near you; it is in
your mouth and in your heart
that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming." Rom 10:8. The Spirit is in your mouth and
your heart, not scriptures.
When Paul said this, the New Testament didn't even exist. He said he was not taught by man, but
through direct revelation by Jesus Christ.
The Word is Christ within you, the Light that enlightens all men, patiently waiting to teach and
reveal himself to you also.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice
of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John 5:25

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in
to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27

"Faith comes by hearing the word of God." When you hear Christ's voice, the real word of
God, speaking to you, your faith grows by leaps and bounds; and it will keep on growing as long
as you keep on listening and being obedient to his commands to you.

If they tell you that "faith comes by hearing Bible verses (their word of God)," haven't they just cut
Christ out of being the author and the finisher of your faith, by making the Bible their
source of faith instead of the Living, speaking voice from heaven, Christ the Living God? If
people insist that Bible verses are the "word of God," haven't they replaced Christ with the Bible -
making the Bible their rule, their judge, their source of discernment, their authority - haven't they made
the Bible their God? Think about it, even though it is a sad conclusion to make. Rather than the living
Light and Word, Christ within them being their teacher, guide, authority, rule, and God; their faith is in
the Bible, as James Parnell, the 18 year old Christian martyr, so astutely states.

The Bible is my source to identify the promise of perfection, purity, holiness, and
the Kingdom within while on earth. I treasure the Bible. It is by far my favorite book. It is the
recorded words of the saints as inspired by the Holy Spirit of God. It defines what I am aiming for, it
defines evil, it builds my hope, it tells me what I must do to please God. But it is not a source of grace;
it cannot show me what is hidden in my heart; it cannot judge me; it cannot convince me; it cannot
convict me, leading me to repentance; it cannot give me strength and take away my lusts and affections;
it cannot change me to be like Christ; it cannot communicate the spirit of the words written; it cannot
teach me in the order I need, and with the exact words I need to learn; it cannot command me,
knowing what commands I am capable of keeping; it cannot warn me when I am in subtle error; it
cannot give me words of encouragement; it cannot forgive me and assure me; it cannot tell me it loves me;
it cannot thank me; it cannot touch me; it cannot purify me; it cannot discipline me; it cannot lead me
into the Kingdom of Heaven, it cannot give me life. But Christ can do all of this and more - he who has
come to teach the people himself through the Holy Spirit of God.

But before a man comes into the spiritual state to be able to understand the depth of the
scriptures' meanings, reading the Scriptures is profitable for: 1) building hope, 2) definition of what is
sin, and 3) the promises of God to be obtained. It is a serious mistake, to discount the scriptures
altogether; even to the spiritually immature, their reading is very helpful; but the all-too-common mistake
is to not seek Him of whom the scriptures testify, only to read about Him, rather than to experience Him
by silently waiting on Him to receive His teachings and changing grace. Children should be encouraged
to read the Bible; and young children can immensely benefit from reading The Golden Children's
Bible, widely available. Whatever time you give to the reading of the Bible, you should give far more time
to silent waiting on the Lord.

It may take a long time waiting on the Lord before you hear his voice, but your waiting is to be
rewarded, and you will eventually hear.

No one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of
those who wait for him. Isa 64:4

Let your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, be upon us, in proportion to our waiting and hoping
for you. Ps 33:22

Yes, wait for and hope for and expect the Lord. Psalm 27:14

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as
eagles; Isaiah 40:31

And once you begin to hear, you will hear with increasing frequency. See How to Receive the
Cleansing Grace of God for more on listening.

Don't be like the Pharisees, whom Christ severely criticized, saying "You search the Scriptures, for in
them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing
to come to Me that you may have life."
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

Jesus said: Consider carefully what you hear. With the measure you use, it will be measured to you
—and even more. Mark 4:24-5 , Deut 30:19-20

Paul said: This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of
the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their minds, having their understanding darkened, being alienated
from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;
who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught
by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old
man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true
righteousness and holiness. Eph 4:17-24 Are you beginning to see how critical it is
to hear and be taught by Jesus himself?

Jesus said, Then will the righteous (those who are upright and in right standing with God) shine forth
like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him who has ears [to hear] be
listening, and let him consider and perceive and understand by hearing. Mat 13:43

Why can't he teach me while I am studying the Bible?

Of course he could, but then you are setting the agenda - you're telling him what you want him to disclose
to you that day. When you go to school, you don't walk in with a book, turn to the page you want to
have explained to you, and order your teacher to teach what you have decided to be taught. He may want
to be sure you know your spiritual ABCs before you start reading some very complex material written to
a variety of different Christian groups with different levels of maturity and understanding.

Remember Paul? The New Testament didn't even exist; but Christ, from heaven, taught him everything,
by his voice from his mouth and a message from his lips. Christ wants to teach you everything too, but in
his own order. When your are quiet, and waiting, while listening and watching for the teacher, He will
speak to you. We continually get reports from those who hear, many from those who have read the way
to hear him from this web site. It is only common sense, which we have forgotten: to listen to anyone,
we have to be quiet; add the power of his name to think on, and we are on the narrow way that few will find.

The common practice of "meditating on the word" is still you trying to set the agenda. He may take pity
on you occasionally and actually disclose something to you while "meditating on the word," but you
are missing 99% of the possible teachings and communication; you are only getting the crumbs from
the table.

But the Bible says, he who keeps my word loves me;

so doesn't that mean I'm supposed to keep the words in the Bible?

The Bible is not the Word of God. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the
word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Heb 11:3. To
think the Bible framed the worlds is ridiculous.

Christ is the Word of God. The Bible is the recorded words of the saints. When Christ said:

He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be
loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 14:21

He was saying commands you hear him speak to you, not the commands in the Bible. He is
not speaking of the Ten Commandments; there are hundreds of commands in the Old Testament.
While certainly we are not to steal, lie, murder, etc., if you try to keep every command in the New
Testament alone, you will be smothered. Try these:

Love your enemies.

Turn your other cheek to someone who hits you.
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. (One of the Ten Commandments)
Love your neighbor as yourself. (one of the Ten Commandments)
Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.

You can't obey any of these commands without being changed to be like Him. You can't be perfect unless
he makes you perfect, no matter how hard you try. You can't love your neighbor as yourself unless He
helps you, no matter how hard you try. You can't love your enemies without His help. You can't love
God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength, no matter how hard you try - unless He helps you with
his unmerited favor, grace. This is not done by reading the Bible, Bible study groups, praying,
fasting, singing, listening to sermons, or trying, etc. You get this ability to keep all his
commands, (perfection), - by grace. Grace is the unmerited favor of God that we access through our faith
in the name of Jesus. Grace is not instant or one-time; grace is a process. Grace is a teaching of us to
live righteously, soberly, and godly in this present world by denying ungodliness and worldly lusts
- repentance; this takes time. He will only give you personalized commands you are capable of
keeping, and he will strengthen you along the way so that you can keep increasingly difficult
commands. Christ, through the Holy Spirit, convicts you of sin by showing you what is in your
heart, convinces you of the righteousness of Christ by teaching about himself, and finally judges you. John
16:8 Conviction of sin shows you from what he wants you to repent, by the Living Word of God.

Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts!
And see if there is any wicked or hurtful way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Psalm 129:23-4

You get his help by going to him and getting quiet so you can hear him. If you are busy telling
him everything you want him to do for you, how can he teach you? It is that simple. He is the Teacher. He
is the Light that enlightens all men. He is in you, chained down, waiting for you to seek to listen to him.
And as you sit and wait for him, you will hear him and the Light will show you things
about yourself that are not pretty, conviction, allowing you to repent; and if you love the Light,
you will regret what the Light shows you, and you will receive strength to be different from then on --
the operation of grace - the cleansing, purifying, perfecting process of grace. With the Light, you
will not only hear, but also eventually see Christ, your Teacher. And after purification, he and
the Father come to establish their Kingdom in your heart; and you step into paradise - while still on
the earth.

Christ is the only person that understands you well enough to be able to lead you out of your fleshly self to
a sinless state. Each of us has a different set of problems, in different degrees at least, of which only he
can give you understandings and individual, personalized commands to obey and keep - his living
words, which you receive and hear - which you obey by repentance. Jesus said: "Remember,
therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent." Rev. 3:3 Keep
a notebook of the commands you receive, so you can review them, remember them, and keep obeying. "
If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him
and make our home with him which the world will not see." Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God and Being Silent for more.

Can't My Preacher Teach Me Everything I Need to Know?

The only people to whom Christ spoke harsh words were the money changers in the temple and to
the religious teachers of the day, the Pharisees. Why? He severely criticized the teachers because they
had not entered "the Kingdom of God " and stood in the way, blocking others from entering it
[the Kingdom of God] because of their incorrect teachings. Is your preacher like the Pharisees, whom
he severely criticized for not leading others into the Kingdom of God within while still alive on earth,
or is your preacher telling you that heaven is only after you die? Is your preacher focused as a first
priority on seeking the Kingdom of Heaven and His righteousness, which is within you and
does not come with visible signs? If not, he is just like the Pharisees whom Christ severely criticized.
His judgment will be based on the number of people he has misled. Are you one of them being misled?

Did he learn anything from Christ? Has he heard the voice of the Son of God? Did Christ teach him, or
did he go to Bible College to learn about the Bible instead of Christ? There are 30,000 different sects
of "christianity" out there - each with a different interpretation of what the Bible tells us we need to do. If
all the teachers and preachers of these 30,000 sects had been taught by Christ himself, there would be
one church only - there would be no different interpretations, providing they had waited until
perfection, and Christ had told them they were ready to teach and preach, because as Jesus said:
"after perfection, everyone would be like the teacher." Such authorization comes from him directly
and specifically; you hear him say: you are now a teacher, or: preach repentance with remission
of sins. (And, yes: after being taught for years, we then have heard those exact words.)

Does he seek the chief place of honor in the assembly - like the Pharisees whom Christ criticized, (up on
the stage, behind the pulpit)? Is he called reverend, father, or doctor in the market like the Pharisees
were, whom Christ criticized? Has he been purified within - cleansed of lusts and affections - or is he like
the Pharisees who Christ said cleaned the outside of the cup, but within were full of extortion and
excess? Does he urge widows to contribute from their life savings? Does he make long prayers for
pretence (for show)? Does he wear long robes (for show again)? All like the Pharisees whom Jesus
severely cried WOE against. In fact, he said that the harlots and tax collectors would enter heaven before
the Pharisees. Is your preacher the modern Pharisee; does he fit Christ's descriptions? Does he rule
your group by means of his position; claim authority based on his office, which Jeremiah cried
against? Does he Lord it over you, which Peter commanded not to be done? (Click here to see all of
Jesus's criticisms of the religious leaders, who are not purified by his repentance.)

Does your preacher ask for your money every Sunday? Can you see Christ, after he fed the 5,000,
emptying the baskets of the leftovers and passing the baskets back around for everyone to put money
in? Can you read anywhere in the Bible where Christ asked anyone to give him money? Would he even
have a box displayed to receive your money? Did Paul ever ask for money? (He asked for the
Greek assemblies to contribute to the poor brothers in Jerusalem, but not to himself - he worked as
a tentmaker to earn his living.) Christ told his disciples, "Freely you have received, freely give,"
and Peter said: "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight, not by constraint,
but willingly; not for filthy lucre (money)." Remember Isaiah cried against the shepherds
who sought their own gain, greedy dogs who never had enough. Tithing died when Christ's
priesthood replaced the Levitical priesthood; look for tithing in the New Testament; the only reference is
to the self-righteous Pharisee, and its death in Hebrews 7. Here are the many fallacies of tithes:

1.
The Levitical priesthood is the only priesthood to be commanded by God to collect a tenth of the product
of the land.
Priesthoods before or after had no such command. To be a priest to collect tithes, you had to be
a descendant of Levi.
2.
Land limits tithing to grain, cattle, oil, fruit, etc. - the product of the land - because God
had given the land to the Jews.
He wanted a portion of the land's production, to provide for the Levites, who had no land given to them,
and to provide for the poor.
3.
Tithes were collected by Levite priests only in a named place selected and specified by the Lord.
4.
Since the produce was food, the people were supposed to eat the food with their children, servants,
and any Levites living within the boundaries of their lands, with thanksgiving and rejoicing to
the Lord;
and this celebratory thanksgiving meal was supposed to be eaten in a place specifically chosen by the Lord.
5.
After eating in celebration to the Lord, any excess was to be placed in a storehouse, the location also
chosen by the Lord,
to be distributed by the Levites to the stranger, the widow, and the fatherless - the provision for
the relief of the poor.
6.
Money was not part of tithing - with one exception. If the distance to the location chosen by the
Lord was too far to travel with the tithes of food, the food to be tithed was to be sold for money. Then
the person was to travel to the location, with the money buy whatever food he particularly enjoyed, and
then eat the food in celebration as in #4 above.
7.
MOST IMPORTANT: Christ eliminated and abolished the Levitical priesthood. He became the
new priesthood. So the command given to the Levital priesthood was eliminated also. Christ
eliminated tithing, just as he established the new covenant .
The scripture backup to this elimination of tithing is in Hebrews 7.
You are denying Christ's priesthood, if you continue to tithe.

For more detail on tithing, see Tithing.

So, if your preacher is taking a salary from the congregation, he is a false prophet, a
wolf dressed in sheep's clothing, a person making a trade of the saint's words. (Prophesy is to
preach; to instruct in religious doctrines; to interpret or explain Scripture or religious subjects; to exhort.)

Here is what Christ has to say about hired hand pastors, (those who work for filthy
lucre, lucre being money):

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. The hired hand is not
the shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and
runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is
a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. John 10:11-13

He is making the point that since the hired hand does not work for the love of God and love of the flock,
at the sign of adversity, he will flee; he doesn't care about the flock, or else he wouldn't be taking
money from them.

And Paul said: Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.
On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God. 2 Cor 2:17
Many of today's ministers chose the ministry as a way to earn an income - like becoming a doctor or
a lawyer;
but Christ is supposed to choose his own shepherds, educate them himself,
and then appoint them to serve without tithing, collections, pledges, or salaries.

If you want to give and make God happy, give to the poor, not to religions, (but not to false prophets, rich
or poor).

Christ said, "you will know them by their fruits;"

if they are His, they have: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
"When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine." John 15:8
If your minister has not produced the fruit of the Spirit, he is not even a follower of Christ, much less
a minister of Christ;
in fact, according to Christ, he is a false prophet. In John's time, many false prophets had already gone
out into the world:
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matthew 7:14-21

Those who belong to Christ have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24
If your minister has not crucified his sinful nature with its passions and desires, evidenced by destruction
of sexual immorality,
impurity, debauchery, idolatry, hatred, lying, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition,
dissensions, envy, drunkenness, etc.;
he doesn't even belong to Christ, despite what he says; so how can he be a minister of Christ? Gal 5:19-24.
He's not; he is a false prophet.

According to the Bible, by the Holy Spirit some are made preachers, pastors, and teachers for
the perfection of the saints -
to bring everyone to the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ and the completeness
found in Him. Eph 4:11-3
Was your preacher or teacher appointed by gift from the Holy Spirit? Or by your sect, or a college, or
even himself?
Is your preacher perfected in the fullness of Christ, completed in Him?
If not, he is not a preacher authorized by Christ. He is a false prophet, a greedy wolf dressed in
sheep's clothing.

As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and
from the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me. Acts
26:17-18

Does your preacher know how to turn people from darkness to light? or even what the light is?
Does your preacher know how to release people from their sins? How to release them from the power
of Satan to God?
Does your preacher know how one can be consecrated and purified by faith in Jesus?
Of course he doesn't. He is a blind guide, in the ditch, and coaxing you to stay in the ditch - which leads
to the pit of destruction.

Even Jesus did not judge, speak, or act without the Spirit's
specific prompting:
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, John 5:30
whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50
the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);
but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing, John 5:19

Until perfected, all preaching and teaching come from the carnal mind, and the carnal mind is
enmity against God. Rom 8:7
A preacher may be a wonderful public speaker, receiving the praise of men, but so were the false prophets
of old. Luke 6:26
To witness, preach, or teach without the Holy Spirit's specific promptings, is to estimate one's self
above Jesus.

Jesus spoke of the spiritual condition of any unpurified religious leader, not having been cleansed by
him through repentance.
You make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within are full of extortion and excess.
You are blind, first cleanse the inside of the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
You are like whitewashed tombs, outwardly beautiful, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of
all uncleanness.
So you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy
and iniquity. Mat 23:25-28

A hypocrite is someone who talks about religion but remains in sin. Iniquity is absence of moral values,
or controlled by sin.

What that kingly prophet David earnestly prayed to God for, in Psalm fifty-one, truly sets forth the state
and condition of true gospel ministers, whose ministry is attended with His power and presence,
and thereby made effective for the conversion of sinners to him. "Wash me thoroughly from mine
iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew right spirit within
me. Cast me not away from your presence; and take not your holy Spirit from me. Restore unto me the joy
of your salvation; and uphold me with your free Spirit. Then will I teach transgressors your ways;
and sinners shall be converted to you."

Paul wrote: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than
that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:8
Paul preached the Kingdom of Heaven and holiness. Your preacher doesn't have a clue about the
Kingdom or how to get there.
So your preacher is preaching a gospel different from Paul. He is cursed. You are listening to a
false prophet.
So, who would you rather learn from? Someone who is a cursed Bible "expert," (with 30,000
different opinions as to what it means),
or from Christ himself, who doesn't charge? He wants you to come to Him, so you can have life, and
have it more abundantly.

We have the account of such a minister, never authorized or trained by Christ, convicted of his error by
the Spirit, taught the true gospel, suffered on the cross to purity, to become an authorized minister of
the Lord preaching the true gospel. Read the account of later martyred Francis Howgill for yourself.

John tells us: But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you
do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning
all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
1 John 1:27

So Should I Stop Going to my Sect's Services? (Why do you seek the living
among the dead?)

The word "church," is the Body of Christ, not a building or a sect. He told me to use the words "deficit
sect," instead. Once you are convinced of the true gospel, you won't be able to stay; it will hurt to hear
the lies and misrepresentations; to hear the false hope; to hear the false gospel; to hear the false promises
of salvation; to be asked for money, (forbidden as discussed above). You will have to leave.

Here is what Christ told me in meditations about all the deficit sects of today:

It is hard for those wrapped up in a form to see repentance to the truth.

(A form is repetitive ritual: singing, readings, baptism, bread/wine, prayers, sermons, collections,
creeds, silent time, robes...)

They fight over the husks without ever discovering the corn.
(The husks are the words in the Bible, they fight over what they mean - but they fail to hear, see, and
learn from Christ. )

The reason people go to deficit sects' services is because of a

charming preacher.
Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

Those reluctant to look at their slavery say, 'Church me.'

For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

The deficit sects have no husband.

(They pretend Christ is their husband, but have failed to become holy, pure, and sinless as his bride
must be.)

The deficit sects feed on mortal food.

(They feed on words without Spirit. Their services are not Spirit-led. They read the letter [Bible].
Their ministers speak from the carnal mind, and the carnal mind is enmity against God. Rom
8:7.
Until their minds have been renewed, their words are without life, and speak from the nature of death.)

When they pray, they don't pray to God; they pray to their
collective conscience.

You say, how could that be? Does their gospel include Christ being able to lead them out of darkness to
a sinless state? Does their Jesus offer the destruction of sin and the works of Satan within them, now,
while on earth? Does their Jesus show them what is in their heart so that they can repent of it and
please Him by obedience? Does their Jesus promise them the Kingdom of Heaven while still alive on
the earth, providing they make it their first priority? Paul said, people preached a different gospel and
a different Jesus from those he preached. He further said, cursed is anyone who brings you a
different gospel; a gospel -- a different gospel and different Jesus form those he preached. Can you
see Christ arguing for sin, imperfection, impurity, and unholiness? Jesus said, I tell you the
truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. Doesn't 30,000 sects mean there are
30,000 different concepts of Jesus? So, each is praying to a different Jesus - their collective conscience
- their group's collective opinion of how Jesus wants them to live, how he wants them to seek him, how
he wants to be worshiped, what he expects them to do - as taught to them by their Bible scholars,
with 30,000 different possible interpretations - and counting.

In vain (fruitlessly and without profit) do they worship Me, ordering and teaching as doctrines
the commandments and precepts of men. Mark 7:7

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests exercise rule at their own hands and by means
of the prophets.
And My people love to have it so! But what will you do when the end comes? Jer 5:31

This is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things,
speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Isaiah 30:9-10

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their
own desires,
because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Tim 4:3-4

Jesus said: A time will come, however, indeed it is already here, when the
true (genuine) worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth (reality);
for the Father is seeking just such people as these as His worshipers. John 4:23
God is a Spirit, and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. John4:24
To be in spirit and truth, you must first be changed by God while abiding in his spoken Word
and Light.
So all worships that are not in the Holy Spirit with the truth in you also, displease God.
To be made a pleasing worshiper, you must: go to him, listen, and obey. See Why Silence for more.

For the world would have a Christ to excuse them, so they may continue to live in their passions
and pleasures, at no cost;
but those committed to truth would have a Christ to change them to live pleasing to God,
whatever the price.

Follow this logic. If people believe that Jesus came to set them free from guilt, instead of set them free
from sin, then Jesus came so we can more easily sin: removing guilt, makes sin easier, allows us to
sin more; therefore Jesus promotes sin. They make Jesus evil. The have totally ignored his basic
message: REPENT for the Kingdom of Heaven is near! When people pray to a Jesus that
promotes sin, to whom are they praying? Not to the Jesus I know; the Jesus I know destroys sin in me,
he purifies me, he changes me, he convicts me of sin, he tells me about his righteousness, he shows me
my failures, he insists I repent from my sins, he disciplines me when I fail, and he celebrates our
victories over sin. My Jesus came to earth and lost his life to open up the Kingdom to all who believed
the true gospel. So is my Jesus, who destroys sin, the same Jesus who promotes sin; or do we worship
a different Jesus? He doesn't condemn us for our sins as long as we are repenting, step by step; but if we
are doing nothing, but thanking Jesus for permitting us to sin guilt-free, we are condemned! Do I want
to fellowship with people who worship a different Jesus; people who think sin is permitted without guilt
or repentance, however well-intentioned they may be, having been grievously deceived?

What about the rest? Does your sect even know what the rest is?
This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they
would not hear. Isa 28:12
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest,
any of you should seem to come short of it Heb 4:1
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest
for your souls. Mat 11:29
For he For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
Heb 4:10
The rest is after true salvation, after union with God; the rest is your labors to be prompted and energized
by God, doing his will.
Have you entered the rest? Has anyone in your sect entered?
Arise and depart, for this is not your rest; because it is defiled, it shall destroy, yes, with utter
destruction. Mic 2:10
No! because, the deficit sects have ignored Jesus' gospel with requirements for repentance
and the reward of the Kingdom, exactly what and why Jesus preached. (How much worse
could their error be?)

How do you think Jesus feels about groups who think he excuses sin, thereby promoting sin (evil)?
How many people are repulsed by those who boast of their righteousness and that despite being
sinners, they have special favor with God with a guaranteed place in heaven, while they continue in
their passions and pleasures? When you think about it, the whole concept is ludicrous! To thinking
souls, this concept of 'churchianity' is a stumbling block and scatters the true sheep, preventing them
from hearing the message of Jesus.

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light, and light
for darkness. Isa 5:20

Many, many of Christ's have been driven out, scattered sheep, from the deficit sects because of:
hypocrisy, being lorded over, money solicitations, frustration with no help to stop sinning, revulsion
at social stances that endorse evil, condemnation, etc. The elect are not deceived by those having a
form of godliness, but denying the power. They can see the lack of fruit. They can see the lack
of power. They can see the blind guides fleecing the flock, making a trade of the Bible verses, in the
ditch, offering no hope. That is why it is necessary for Christ himself to shepherd his flock.

The problem is 'Christians' live the same as the 'sinners' - because they deny the power of God
to change them from darkness to a sinless state, and claim they are favored by God on a
technicality - they say Jesus is Lord with their lips, but keep him far removed from their hearts to really
be their Lord and King.

As Paul said to Timothy about those who have a form of godliness, but deny its power:

People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their
parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers
 of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form
of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. 2 Tim. 3:2-5

(A form is a set of religious practices: singing, Bible reading, baptism, eating bread/wine, prayer
books, creeds, dress, incense, tongue time, fleecing the sheep time, bells, sermons from the carnal
mind, altar call time, silent time, etc. - all scheduled, planned, repeated, rehearsed - so that the
practices become a ritual to be repeated and observed. The form of their attempted worship prevents
the Holy Spirit from leading and controlling the experience.)

The false shepherds will plead for you to stay as a paying customer: "But you must meet with
fellow believers; you cannot forsake the assembling of yourselves together," as Hebrews 10:25 plainly
states, but the people in Hebrews were hoping and "exhorting one another: and so much the more, as
ye see the day approaching," the day of the Lord's return with his Kingdom, which is a
personal experience of purified believers. The people in Hebrews have nothing in common with
people looking forward to heaven after death and content to continue to live in sin until death. If they
don't share your hope of purity and the Kingdom through repentance, with faith in God to fulfill your
hope, then they are unbelievers; and as Paul says: "Have nothing to do with them," and:

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership have right living and right standing
with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

What harmony can there be between Christ and Belial [the devil]? Or what has a believer in
common with an unbeliever? What agreement [can there be between] a temple of God and idols?
For we are the temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in and with and among them and
will walk in and with and among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

So, come out from among [unbelievers], and separate (sever) yourselves from them, says
the Lord, and touch not [any] unclean thing; then I will receive you kindly and treat you with favor,
2 Cor 6:14-17

But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is
known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to anything
that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering],
or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. You must not so much as eat with such a person. 1 Cor 5:11

So any, who call themselves Christians, but are guilty of immorality, or devotion to anything except God,
or greed, or cursing, or lying, or outbursts of anger, or drunkenness, or dishonesty, or theft; we should
not associate with them or even eat a meal with them.

From George Fox's Letter on Covetousness:

So the apostle here does not speak of the fornicators, and covetous idolaters, and extortionists of the
world, which were without; for God judges such. But the saints, the apostles, and the true church
were to judge them that practiced such things within the church, showing the true christian's church
had a power; and not to keep company nor to eat with such, professing Christ, that were of such
practices, knowing that the unrighteous should not inherit the kingdom of God, nor drunkards, nor
fornicators, thieves, railers, extortionists, nor covetous idolaters; they that lived in these evils, were
not like to inherit the kingdom of God; for they were defiled, unwashed, and not sanctified nor
justified, etc. So that if the saints did keep company, or did eat with such unwashed, unsanctified,
unjustified persons, or have fellowship with them, they took the members of Christ and joined them
to an harlot; for he that is joined to an harlot, is one body; ‘for two,’ said he, ‘shall be one flesh.’ And
therefore, the saints' bodies are members of Christ; God forbid they should be joined to harlots, or
that they should make them members of an harlot. ‘And he that is joined to the Lord, is one spirit:’
And the saints' bodies are the temples of the Holy Ghost, which proceeds from God and Christ, and
being bought with a price, the blood of Christ, and washed, and sanctified, and justified in the name
of Jesus Christ by the spirit of God, they are to glorify God in their bodies, souls, and spirits, which
are God's which he has given to them to glorify him withal; glory to his name forever.

Both George Fox and Margaret Fox wrote in several of their writings of not having the freedom to
eat with those who called themselves Christians, but having not been renewed in heart and mind,
remained worldly in covetousness, greed, language, etc.

Not that we are pure already, and these others are not; no, it is the difference in obligation, hope,
and faith that separates us, until we are purified. By your leaving to become pure, you
may eventually be able to help them; greater love has no man than he who lays down his life for his
friends. The people in the deficit sects, however well-intentioned they are, believe they are justified
in continuing in sin - and that Jesus does not want them to become pure, and furthermore that Jesus
can not purify them - they are unbelievers: what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? See
George Fox's letter 391 for more.

If you have people who share your hope to meet with, then meet with them to silently listen for the
Lord together. See Meeting Formats and Why Silence.

Until you do have such people to meet with, for him to teach you, you will have to quietly withdraw
from your deficit sect as evidence to the Lord you are sincere in wanting him to lead you to the sinless
state and the Kingdom. Your withdrawal from the deficit sects' false teachings is evidence of your faith
and hope for righteousness and Christ's ability to bring you to that state by his grace and power. If you
stay, you either lose your peace or you lose your integrity, along with losing the Lord's
teachings because he will not build you up on top of a false foundation. To continue to
fellowship with them will either result in your stress, arguing (fighting) with them, or your
being overcome by their false arguments and remain captive of sin, never to enter the rest of
God. The voice of the Lord said, "They must withdraw from their sect to be taught;" and "
don't withdraw in pride or prejudice, but long enough to see the falseness of their
teachings." Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any
of you should seem to come short of it. Heb 4:1

And protracted wrangling and wearing discussion and perpetual friction among men who are corrupted
in mind and bereft of the truth, who imagine that godliness or righteousness is a source of profit
[a moneymaking business, a means of livelihood]. From such withdraw. 1 Tim 6:5

I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that
are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. Rom 16:17

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every
brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 2 Thes 3:6

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or
welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work. 2 John 1:10-11. (This refers to a
teacher or a preacher of a deficit sect.)

Jesus said: Let them alone and disregard them; they are blind guides and teachers. And if a
blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a ditch. Matthew 15:14

Come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of
her plagues. Rev 18:4-7
Yes, all the deficit sects of today comprise Revelation's Whore of Babylon, of which all the nations
have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, because all the sects are simply evolutional
varieties of the Roman Empire's church, both east and west, whose doctrines were dictated by the
sainted Emperors Constantine and Justinian the despot, thus eliminating the true gospel by 390 AD.
As prophesied in Revelations, the church adulterated with the Kings of the earth. This deficit is
hardly surprising, when you consider that Christ's disciples and apostles (John, Peter, Paul, and Jude)
wrote of false teachers and preachers in their time, 2000 years ago.

He [the beast] was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people (the saints) and
to overcome them. And power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people
and tongue and nation. The beast of the Book of Revelation is the beast of heathen religious authority,
which power was severely curtailed [a wound to the head] by early Christianity, particularly in
the Mediterranean region. But a second beast shortly arose that had horns like a lamb, but was a
beast. Note, this beast appears to be Christian-like, and under pretence of the Lamb's authority,
(though acted by the dragon's power, derived from the first beast of heathen religion) compels men
to comply with such traditions, ceremonies, and rituals, (for Christian duties), as resemble the customs
of the heathen, in their idolatrous worship and superstition. The whole earth followed this beast,
and still does. Thus, the false church arose, and no one could spiritually buy or sell, (like the
foolish virgins for oil in their lamps), unless they complied with the beast and had received the false
church's mark. Any who denied this false church, or who tried to buy or sell (spiritual works by mind
or hand) without the sanction of the false church were martyred, as their predecessors had done
before, under the heathen power, or first beast. And while this false church is often identified by
the Protestants as the Roman church, the Protestants are all part of the same false whore, (the beast
has many names), promoting a false salvation based on saying certain words, performing ceremonies
with water, bread and wine - all superstitious rituals - instead of a complete change of heart - circumcised
to be a new heart and mind.

Anyone who tried to increase their measure of Christ by any way that differed from the doctrine of the
false church (to buy or sell spiritual oil differently for their lamps), was not only stopped; they were killed
- which really made them unable to buy or sell.

Many Roman Catholic persecutions were justified by Saint? Augustine's famous: Why ... should not
the Church use force in compelling her lost sons to return, if the lost sons compelled others to
their destruction?" - A classic example of the end justifies the means, which looses sight of the
principal command of Christ to "love enemies," not destroy them. Another supposed saint?,
Thomas Aquinas wrote: On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the
conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and
second admonition," as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer
hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating
him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be
exterminated thereby from the world by death. These revered saints? ignore Christ's reply to
his disciples when they wished to punish the people who would not listen to him, severely rebuking
them with: Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. If someone is violating the standards of
the church, (sinning), they are supposed to be warned by one, then warned by two or three, then
censured by the whole body of believers, - and if they fail to repent of their error, they are supposed to
be expelled and shunned - not killed, or imprisoned, or tortured, or stripped of their property.

Protestants killed heretics too. John Calvin, was a principal founder of Protestantism, having great
influence on the Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Baptists, and even Lutherans. Calvin had
Servetus arrested and wrote charges of heresy against him; Servetus denied the scriptural support of
the trinity and infant baptism. Calvin's charges and arrest of him resulted in Servetus being burned at
the stake. Calvin, with many other Protestant authorities, further participated in the burning of twenty-
three others with differing religious views. Calvin wrote: Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done
to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty
 as they are. There is no question here of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law
he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so
extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so that we spare not kin, nor
blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory.
The apologists of Calvin spilling blood and forgetting all humanity point out that many other
Protestants killed heretics too - (the everybody-did-it defense).

Jesus said: .. whoever kills you will think and claim that he has offered service to God. John 16:2

And the whore was drunk on the blood of the saints - the Roman church's inquisitions and
slaughters throughout Europe, in which during the Middle Ages (800 AD to 1500 AD) nine million
souls were put to death, accused of witchcraft. This was followed by the Protestants of England
and America who in 50 years were responsible for the deaths of over 869 Quakers in the 17th Century.
The persecutors of the Quakers included Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and Baptists.
She boasts she is not a widow and will never see grief. She boasts that Christ is their husband; but these
false churches are the whore of Babylon, who ignore Christ's commands to repent, his teachings,
his requirements, his warnings, his required holiness, his gospel, his Kingdom, his promised freedom
from sin, and his cross of self-denial - the Missing Cross to Purity.

(If you want to read more about the whore and the beast, Isaac Penington has writings on this site:
1. Babylon the Great, and 2. The Great Apostasy, and Janney's History of the Church.)

Go to the Good Shepherd yourself, bypassing the supposed intermediaries. Go to the Master. The Truth.
The Light. The Way. The Captain of your Salvation. The Author and Finisher of Your Faith. Your Hope.
Your All. HE will never fail you - if you allow him, he will guide you, teach you, lead you, change you,
destroy the sin within you, love you, enter union with you, and take you to paradise.

Be you separate, said the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be
a father unto you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, said the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor. 6:17

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more on how to listen and receive the
teaching, changing grace of God.

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That [Christ] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into
the world.
John 1:9

The Spirit of God has been poured out on all mankind. Acts 2:16-17

But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you,
and you do not need any man to teach you:
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you,
you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.
Matthew 5:9

Seek the Lord and His strength;

yearn for and seek His face, to be in His presence continually! 1 Chr 16:11

Table of Contents Many different

1 Differences from Other Meditations
1.1 The Inward Focus - Christ in You
1.2 Further Scriptural Validity to Method
2 The Environment for Success
2.1 Simple Beginning Rules
3 Techniques
3.1 Dryness
3.2 Reaction to Conviction
4 The Lord's Watching Over Us
5 Ministry of Condemnation
6 Doubts
7 The Opposition - Testing
7.1 Deceptions
7.2 Lying Wonders
8 Tribulation
9 The Interim Reward
10 The Kingdom of God
the others have imagined; not only purity, which they seek, but after purification: union with God
religions meditate.
What is different about this?
The difference between Christian meditation
and all the other meditation flavors is that
Christ is the one doing the work for us. We
don't have to worry about techniques: i.e.
incense, bells, chants, mantras, breathing, etc.
- because we only try to be quiet and think on
His name while we wait, listen, and watch; he
does the rest. We go to him to learn and
be changed by grace. Many forms of
meditation teach to ignore all thoughts and
all voices, but unless you obey the convictions
and complete commands heard and
understood, there is no spiritual progress. And
the reward for which we strive far exceeds anything
and Christ; dwelling in the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth; fellowship in heaven with Christ, the
Father, the angels, and the spirits of men and women past made perfect; fellowship in the Spirit with
fellow believers; and each of us having an office and function in the Body of Christ and His government
on the earth for the rest of our lives here. This is where you learn from Him, get cleansed by Him,
are led by Him, and come to know Him.

Compared to an expert in yoga or Buddhist meditations, my techniques are nothing; but they don't have
to be anything, because it is Christ that does the teaching, not me who somehow makes myself capable
by technique. Believe me, after hearing from many who have found this web site to guide them to
their teacher within, technique is the least important; for we are taught and changed by the unmerited
favor of God, grace, which abounds in sufficient quantity to those who humbly seek him with the name
of Jesus in mind.

Whatever works for you to get into the Light, keep using it. We know people who have gone into the Light
by a variety of meditation methods. One person using TM had the Light tell her that it would heal her. It
was revealed to her that the Light was Christ, but that person rejected the Light to be Christ, because
she had rebelled from a condemning fundamental christian sect. Rejecting the Light to be Jesus, she
missed the opportunity to be healed of her sickness and the opportunity to attain union with God in
his Kingdom.

The Inward Focus

Christ's physical life and sacrifice made our purity and union possible; the benefits of
His earthly life are detailed in Why Light?

A common fear among people of the deficit sects is that any meditation is trying to
make ourselves a pantheistic God, looking inward, rather than looking outward to
God. However the fear is unfounded; Paul confirms Christ within, whom we seek to
hear, see, know, and follow:

Do you not yourselves realize and know that Jesus Christ is in you? 2 Cor 13:5
Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall be
My people. 2 Cor 6:16

That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith.. Eph 3:17

Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown
it to them. Rom 1:19

Further Scriptural Basis of Waiting, Watching, and

Listening for God

Jesus said: For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them.
He is like a man building a house, who laid a foundation securely built on a rock. Luke 6:47-8
He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to him , listen to his words, and obey. By
doing so, you receive Christ.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come
and make our home with him. John 14:22-3
The core message of this web site is from the above two teachings of Jesus:
Come, listen, obey what you hear (repentance), be loved by the Father, and He and
Jesus then come to you with the Kingdom of Heaven.

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine,
neither can you, unless you abide in Me. John 15:4
He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; (love, peace, joy, patience, kindness,...Gal 5:22-23
for without Me you can do nothing. John 15:5. Works without God's Love in us count for nothing. 1 Cor 13:3
To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith expressing itself through love. Gal 5:6
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a withered branch.... into the fire. John 15:6
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto
you. John 15:7
Abiding is the key to success. Studying the Bible only tells us what we must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words
must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living word, (not read
the Bible).
when anything [as in secret sins of your heart] is exposed and reproved by the light, it
is made visible and clear; and where everything is visible and clear there is light. Eph 5:13-14

the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. 1 Chron 28:9

To abide is "to remain." We go to him and quietly sit waiting on him; and then we listen for him to speak
to us and watch for what he shows us. When the Light appears, we spend time in the Light. His living
Word penetrates us, separating spirit from soul, and the Light purifies us by the blood of Jesus. As
we repent, we are changed and receive more of His Spirit. As we receive more of his Spirit, he abides
or remains in us too. We become the possessors of Christ, not just professors.

To sit in silence waiting on the Lord is to bear the cross - instead of thinking how you might
please others. - Voice of the Lord.

Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10

Be silent, oh all flesh before the Lord. Zech 2:13

The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see: George Fox's outstanding Biblical justification and requirement Why Silence?
For the process and benefits, see Miguel de Molinos' wonderful Spiritual Guide, a
critical reading, (also on the side bar). Since Molinos was a Roman Catholic in the time of
the inquisition, it was impossible to meet as a group without being executed; so all of
his guidance is directed to individual, private effort; which is particularly appropriate
to scattered pilgrims, without a group.
For understanding and encouragement, read Isaac Penington's wonderful Letters.

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works, sin, in us - if we go to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested [in us], that he might destroy the works
of the devil. 1 John 3:8>

So, seek, listen, obey. Seek, listen, obey. Persevere, and Christ will lead you
through repentance to union and the Kingdom of Heaven.
He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him! Heb 11:6
(Diligence is defined as continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal;
laboring; persevering.)
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27

If those who hear will obey, their progress will be swift. Voice of the Lord 3/4/8

Belief in the true gospel, and the cross to realize the promise, releases the power of God
to purify you and make you one with Him.

Jesus said, Then will the righteous (those who are upright and in right standing with
God) shine forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Let him who has ears [to hear] be listening, and let him consider and perceive
and understand by hearing. Mat 13:43

The following extract of letters from the early Quaker notable, William Dewsbury, is
an outstanding description of the workings of the Spirit to teach, convict, and lead
to salvation, while waiting on the Lord in silence; he particularly relates the process
in precise scriptural language:

All people who desire to know the living God, let the time past suffice in which you
have followed men who have deceived you, and cease from them; and turn to the
true Prophet, whom Moses the servant of the Lord declared, the Lord God would raise
up, Deut 18:15, his elect and chosen servant, to raise up the tribe of Jacob, and to restore
the preserved of Israel; whom he has also given for a Light to the Gentiles, and to be
his salvation to the ends of the earth. Whom Isaiah the prophet also declared, the
Lord would raise up, to open the fountain of life and salvation to all that thirst, Isa 55:1-
3, and is now witnessed by all that hearken to his counsel, who calls,' Ho!' to every one
that thirsts,' come you to the waters, and he that has no money, come you buy and eat,
yes, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do you spend
your money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which satisfies not?
Hearken diligently unto me, and eat that which is good, and let your soul delight itself
in fatness: incline your ear and come unto me; hear, and your souls shall live; and I
will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.' " All
people, look no longer forth; the glad tidings of the gospel of eternal salvation is
heard within, in this day of the Lord's mercies, in which he is teaching his people himself,
as was declared by the prophet Isaiah 54:13, and is now witnessed by all the children of
light, whose minds are turned within to wait on the Lord for his teaching, to establish
them in the covenant of life and peace, who is performing his promise, which he declared
 by his servant the prophet Jeremiah to all that wait on him; namely,' This shall be
the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, in those days, said the Lord; I will
put my law into their hearts, and write it in their inward parts, and will be to them a
God, and they shall be to me a people; and they shall no more teach every man his
neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord, for they shall all know me
from the least of them unto the greatest of them, said the Lord; for I will be merciful to
their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities I will remember no more.'

Therefore, every one that desires to know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he
has sent, turn your minds within, and examine your hearts, search and try your ways
with the light that Christ Jesus has enlightened you withal, that shows you in your
hearts what is sin, that pride and covetousness, lying and swearing, dissimulation
and cheating, vain and idle communications, foolish jesting and unbelief, are sins.
These things you know to be sins in your own consciences, by the righteous law of God in
the heart, that reproves you for them in secret. There is your teacher, the Spirit of the
Lord within you; which, in this mighty day of his power, he is pouring upon all
flesh, according to his promise declared by the prophet Joel 2:28-29, and is now
witnessed by his sons and by his daughters, who walk in the light, and are led and guided
by his Spirit within them, which keeps the conscience void of offence towards God
and towards man. "Hearken, every one, diligently to the counsel of the Lord, the light
that witnesses for God in the conscience; give up to be guided by it; then you will need
no more to be taught of men, neither shall your teacher be removed into a corner any
more; but your eye shall see your teacher, and 'your ear shall hear a voice behind
you, saying, This is the way, walk in it, when you turn to the right hand or to the left,' as
was declared by the prophet, Isaiah 30:20-21, which is now witnessed :— and that is
the living word of God within you, which has raised desires in you towards God. Every one
in whom such desires are raised, wait in the light and power within, which has raised
the desires; and the Lord will then strengthen you, and give you power to wait on him in
the way of his judgments, until the carnal, earthly, sensual mind, which has led you to
delight in lusts and pleasures, and in created enjoyments, below God, is cut down and
slain by the word of God within which is a sharp and two-edged sword, to slay down the
first man, which is of the earth, earthy; and then will you come to witness a being 'the slain
of the Lord.' The sentence of death will be passed upon the first man that has led you
from God, and on all the strength, wisdom, and righteousness you had in him; and in
the power of the Spirit, you will be brought, in the true sense of the poverty of your spirits,
to hunger and thirst after the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, to prize and love
him, and to judge and deny self with his light, and in it to wait for his power to guide you
in every word and work."

William Dewsbury

The Environment for Success

You must return to your first love, the way you felt when you were first touched by the Lord
- on fire. Kindle that fire again. Seek with all your heart. Hate your evil thoughts,
profane words, and slavery to your pleasures; they are your enemies. Dedicate yourself to
be rid of them once and forever, through the grace of God that will save you completely
from you sins. Focus on becoming pleasing to God. Seek God's direction in your
life, confident that your life will then be lived to the fullest with the best possible results.

The Lord has told me several times in my journey to "keep seeking peace." He also said
for anyone to be successful: "Your motive must be noble and pure." To be successful,
your motivation for meditation, (wait, listen, and watch), must be to seek peace; it cannot
be to seek financial gain, a more powerful personality, power, religious position,
spiritual gifts,* money, or prestige. These are all rooted in the ego flesh, which the
Spirit mortifies in the meditation process. You must humbly approach meditation willing
to give up anything asked; eager to crucify your lusts and affections; willing to repent of
any evil in your heart revealed; and hopeful of receiving his words, light, spirit and peace
in return. Without this motivation, you will receive little, if any, help. If you
approach meditation with reservations about something in your life you selfishly intend
to retain, whatever you ask, you will hear little. If you approach meditation seeking
specific answers to questions you have, therefore trying to set the agenda yourself,
rarely will you hear.

*Do not seek gifts, seek the giver. If you seek gifts, you will not succeed. But if you seek

the giver, you will be showered with gifts. William Penn said, "They, who seek power,
are those who do not receive Christ in his convictions upon the soul, and therefore, they
will always lack power; but those who seek his convictions, receive power, like those of
old, to become the children of God, through the pure obedience of faith."
If you are serious about seeking God, you must make every effort to be honest: no lying,
no cheating, no exaggerating, no omission of details that change your statements. If you
slip in the moment, which happens even while trying, go back to the person and correct
your misstatement; all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire
and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 21:8. When you are willing to give up
anything, so that you can get closer to God, you have nothing to lie about any more; for
one lies to gain or preserve, whether it is goods or pride.

This is not a 100 meter dash; it is a 100 kilometer marathon. A command to me,
particularly appropriate to the start of your journey is: "Do not despise small beginnings."

To seek union with God is not always pleasant, especially the crucifixion of self. As
Molinos says: He that would go to perfection by the means of sweetness and consolation,
is mistaken. The soul that would be united to Christ, must be conformable to him,
following him in the way of suffering on the cross. Jesus said that before beginning,
one should first sit down and calculate the cost whether he has sufficient means to finish
it? Otherwise, when he has laid the foundation and is unable to complete, all who see it
will begin to mock and jeer at him. Saying, This man began to build and was not able
(worth enough) to finish. He is telling us to not even start, unless we are committed to
going all the way, including death of self through suffering and tribulation. This
commitment comes from a deep hunger, a hunger established by God to draw you to him.
He already has far too many, calling themselves 'christians,' who never even started,
much less finished, building his temple to completion in their hearts. But we can testify
truly, that having gone through much suffering and tribulation, the pain is
nothing compared to the reward of knowing God. For God has created us to be loved by
him and for us to love him. He is pure, clean, holy, righteous, merciful, truthful,
faithful, peaceful, full of joy, and abounding in love for us - eagerly awaiting the
opportunity to show his love for us. But to be in his presence and receive his love, we must
be changed to become pure to able to receive his spirit in measure - our old wineskin
can't hold the new wine - we must let him prepare us a new wineskin - so we can possess
and enjoy the superior wine. From the voice of the Lord, "Trust him. He will lead you
and watch over you continually. He will never leave you."

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same
attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result, he does
not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet
4:1-2. Tribulation is not a hard day at the office, a car wreck, or some natural difficulty; it
is unmistakably, supernaturally imposed.

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example,
that you should follow His steps.
1 Pet 2:21. (There is much more on tribulation later in this section.)

The Lord has told me that "compared to the impoverished, third-world nations , very few
in the prosperous, industrialized western world will be willing to completely sacrifice
their selfish way of life." Don't sacrifice your eternal happiness for the transient pleasures
of your lifestyle, however good it feels. Remember, pride of life results from
lust's accumulations. Pride of life is the major problem for the industrialized nations;
we imagine that we have the world by the tail. Presumption is the major spiritual error;
we imagine that we can please God without crucifixion of the selfish spirit to its death.

His promise was: if you seek, as your FIRST priority, the Kingdom of Heaven and
His Righteousness, all your other needs will be met. We can testify to the truth of
his promise, that while seeking the Lord as our first priority in life, He has met all
our material needs far in excess of our hopes. Rather than accumulation, your focus
should be on giving from your excess; for it is more blessed to give than receive. You
must practice and develop the habit of reflexive giving. When you see a need that you can
fill from your excess, fill it. Just react to what comes in front of you, or you can give
to deserving charities such as our favorites: Girls and Boys Town and TheSmileTrain.
By giving, you are practicing what you seek - love and death of self; but give in
secret, receiving no recognition from man. Only your Father in heaven will know, and
your treasure will become eternal. And remember, it is the love of money that is the root
of all evil, not money. Rich or poor can love money. Rich or poor can have little regard
for money. Remember, it is written, give to the poor, and I will repay you. And, God loves
a cheerful giver. Ease of giving comes with practice. Start slow and build as you feel the joy
of giving. If you can't do this yet, wait until he shows you the root of your problem in
your heart and takes it away.

Of course, everyone able should be employed, and so be in service to the creation; any
honest job is honorable, which includes being a stay-at-home mom. We cannot be
slothful, doing no work, living off the government or others' generosity. The slothful
are close kin to the destroyer.

As long as you are in an honest occupation, remain where you are. The more changes in
your life that you make, the more unsettled you become and the less you can hear
Him because your mind is racing to accommodate your new circumstances. Don't relocate
to a new job, city, country, or house unless necessary. Make as few changes as possible
in your worldly life.

To single people: If you sincerely desire to seek God, you cannot be seeking a husband
or wife at the same time, because that pulls you away from your primary goal. There
is nothing wrong with marriage, but you cannot forsake all, while grasping for more;
you cannot lose your natural life, while trying enlarge the same. When you attain the
clear guidance of the voice of God, if it is best for you to be married, He will clearly tell
you whom and when to marry; remember, God destroyed the old world by water because
the sons of God were marrying people outside of the faith, to whomever they were
physically attracted to. Before you begin, count the costs. If you have heard the call, don't
be like those who said they were too busy with: a new wife, their business, their farm,
or burying their parents. Long after George Fox had attained union and entered
paradise, with no desire on his part, he was told by the Lord to marry Margaret Fell, also
a prominent Quaker.

As you begin to deny your former evil activities in the world, the basis of your
friendships will diminish. As you deny foul language, revelry, drinking, carousing, etc.,
your friends will become uncomfortable and begin to attack your commitment to
goodness. You will no longer have anything to gain from socializing with them. For
what fellowship can light have with dark or righteousness with lawlessness? Yes, they
think it strange that you do not run with them in the same flood of dissipation, speaking
evil of you. Your former social friendships will necessarily disappear, else they will hate
you and persecute you; or worse, drag you back into the world as you seek their
approval. Are you trying to win the approval of men, or of God? This doesn't mean that
you won't be kind and courteous to those of the world with which your occupation brings
you into association; just that you will not socialize with them, because it would be painful.

If you are preaching or teaching religion before being perfected and specifically
authorized by Christ, to progress spiritually, you must stop. Every word you preach or
teach that is not totally correct puts condemnation on you, and until perfected
and authorized your teachings will not be true. Don't even talk about God or Christ
until authorized by him. See To Religious Teachers and Preachers for more.

Strive to live a quiet and peaceful life. Seek peace with all men. The less conversation,
the better. The less time with radio, TV, movies, CDs, MP3s, podcasts, books,
magazines, newspapers, web surfing; the better. Whatever conversation you find yourself
in, try to talk about love and family. Encourage and congratulate noble activities and
good deeds that surface in conversation. Even compliment others for acts of
kindness, repressing anger, and politeness. Don’t join unprofitable conversations,
avoiding impurity and chatter spoken from pride (godless chatter), for they will
increase your ungodliness. If the conversation turns to something profane,
immediately leave; spare your ears, voice, and spirit.

A withdrawal from the world for a period of solitude can be helpful to see the world
more clearly as it is. From the Lord: "withdraw from the world long enough to
see the inconsideration and hate within it."

Pastimes are not harmful unless giving them up is painful. But, even if a pastime is
not important to you, to others they are a major indulgence in their life. So, you may
decide to, or be asked to, refrain from participating in them to: 1) avoid the appearance
of endorsing them, thus being a good example to those who might indulge to their harm,
and 2) not offend those of other religious persuasions, who think they are sinful -
preventing them from hearing the truth as you practice it. Both cases illustrate the
practice of being your brother's keeper.

See Coming Out of the World for more on what you need to do to succeed.

Simple Rules to Follow

Beyond your daily seeking through meditation, here are the starting rules that if you
follow, you will do well.

This was John the Baptist's simple message of repentance, to get ready for Jesus and the Kingdom:
Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct.
Matt 3:2
Share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain. Luke 3:10-14
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 Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. (Jesus' #1)
Set aside at least one hour for quiet time every day.
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Above all, don't swear (James #1; as in oaths: "I swear to tell the truth.."),
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Above all, love each other deeply, for love covers a multitude of sins (Peter's #1),
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Flee from sexual immorality, ( in Acts 15:28, from the Apostles' Council to the beginning Gentiles) .
All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his
own body. 1 Cor 6:18.
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Whatever commands you receive while listening, record them, review them, and keep repenting.
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Prize your time and the Love of God to you. (Fox's #1)
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Don't worry, he loves you, doubt it not! (from him in meditation)

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And don't talk about God or Christ unless he tells you to. Wait until your words are from the Spirit.
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Enjoy the good things of this life with thanks and praise to our to great and wonderful God.

Certainly we have to make every effort to give up the unlawful practices: lying, cheating,
swearing, drunkenness, stealing, railing, sexual immorality, etc.

But in our culture we are immersed in lawful pastimes - sports, TV, movies, web surfing, CDs,
MP3s, podcasts, music, concerts, theater, races, bodybuilding, shopping, blogging, video games, etc.
So where do we begin? You can't give it all up at once, or you will be an empty shell. What you give up has
to be led by him, one step at a time, with him giving more hunger for him each step of the way. Titus 2:11-
14 says: grace will teach us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts - how to live soberly,
righteously, godly. Certain things must be turned away from with all your strength, particularly those
that lead you to sexual immorality. Pornography addiction is the disease of the age and wherever it
appears, it must be eliminated: magazines, calendars, books, TV, movies, web surfing, etc. If you
are addicted to web pornography, at least get the sites off your Favorites list. Make it more than one click
to failure; get rid of your credit cards - anything to block your ease of depravity.

But for the non-harmful pastimes: know they eventually will probably have to go, but wait for the Lord
to lead you in their denial, when he gives you strength to comply and more hunger for him to fill
the void created when you give them up. As the Lord has told me: "I don't want people to give
up everything at once, without me leading them and filling them along the way, or they
will end up an empty shell."

Regarding sports, bodily exercise that keeps you healthy is important and should not be classified as
a pastime, providing you are not obsessed with winning or resulting pride of appearance.

From A Guide to True Peace:

The love of liberty is one of the most dangerous passions of the heart. If we follow this propensity, instead
of true liberty, it reduces us to slavery. As our passions are the worst of tyrants, if we obey them partially,
we must always be in a perpetual strife and contest within; and if we entirely give ourselves up to them, it
is horrid to think to what extremities they will lead; they will torment the heart, and, like a torrent, sweep
all before them, and yet never be satisfied. True liberty is to be found only in him, whose truth shall set
us free, and who shall make us experience that to serve him is to reign.

When our selfish nature is slain, we will receive the Spirit of Christ, so that we will
be obedient in our love for God - and our obedience is by choice, God not having taken
away our free will. Love never insists on its own way. But our love for God will make
our obedience to his wishes to be the joy of our life.

Don't try to force others in your family to do the same seeking as you. If they are interested, great. If
your wife or husband goes along with you, that's even better; you have the best of fellowship. But
don't pressure anyone. Once they see you change; once they see your peace; they may want to
follow. Whatever commands you get are for you only; don't assume you have an obligation to enforce
them on your family members.

As evidence of your desire for the Lord to lead you to a sinless state and the Kingdom, you will have to
leave your deficit sect. To continue to meet with your deficit sect, is contradictory to the truth and to the
true gospel requiring repentance. To continue to meet with any of the deficit sects is to fellowship
with people who deny the hope of purity through repentance, union, holiness, and the Kingdom. Instead
of repentance with forgiveness, their God only forgives with no help or power for further repentance to
help them change. To stay, you will either lose your peace or lose your integrity. The voice of the Lord
said, "They must withdraw from their sect to be taught;" and "withdraw from your sect, not
out of pride and prejudice, but separate yourself long enough to see its false rulings." To
be able to hear Christ's teachings, you must quietly withdraw from you deficit sect because he will
not build you up on top of a false foundation. See 'Sect's Services' for more detail. Also see
Isaac Penington's writing as to why coming out of Babylon is necessary.

A KEY teaching that we received from HIM in meditation is: to defer (yield your will) to others -
our children, our husbands, our wives, our friends. Practicing this alone can result in your
significant spiritual progress. You should do this in all cases, unless it is immoral, dangerous, or of
major consequence. This should be especially easy for wives who are to be submissive to their husbands,
and children who are to obey their parents. We who are His, are charged to put ourselves last.
Everyone should defer to other's wishes, for by doing this, we put to death our selfish will, which wants
to put ourselves first. Instead, we put Him and his ways first. Love does not demand its own way. 1 Cor 13:5

And to those who say, we are advocating salvation by "works," by listening and repenting, I say, go to
the Light and have Him show you what is in your heart; then you will know how much grace you
still need. Only God can change us - we are helpless in our fleshly deplorable state- only the
unmerited favor of God can rid us of our conditions. It is by grace, and grace only through our faith in
Christ that we are saved; but saved, means to die to the flesh and live to Christ - not by imputation, but
in reality. You must share his sufferings, die daily, be buried in the baptism of death, and have
him resurrected in you. The cross is the beginning. The cross is not "works," it is only obedience, and
to those who oppose it, they are headed for destruction, for their god is their belly (lusts
and affections).

Techniques

You just try to be quiet so that you can hear the still, quiet voice. Any thought is on the
name of Jesus. It is not a mantra to be repeated. When you find yourself off in
thoughts, return to the thought of his name and then try to be quiet. Each time you
catch yourself off in thoughts, return to thinking of his name, but don't repeat it over
and over. Quietness it the key. His name is access to power and to get your mind back to
what you are waiting on, to hear his words or see his understandings. You can
use techniques learned in different forms of meditations; just remember to bring
your thoughts back to the name of Jesus. You must listen and obey all commands that
you hear, providing they are complete, make sense, and are moral. When you get such
a command, stop and write it down, then continue to listen. Other forms of meditation
teach you to ignore all thoughts - this is exactly the opposite of what you must do - listen
and obey.

Then those who feared the LORD spoke to one another,

And the LORD listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear the LORD
And who meditate on His name. Mal 3:16

I want to share with you the lessons we have learned in years of meditation. I meditate with my eyes
closed. I know others who meditate with their eyes open. Eyes closed have the advantage that you see less
to distract your mind; the disadvantage is that it is easier to go to sleep. George Fox walked all night
alone; walking kept him awake while he listened and received understandings and commands from the Lord.

I reached a point in my meditations where I went to sleep within a few minutes, constantly. Even a lot
of sleep did not remedy this problem. What did work, was to dig my thumbnail into the tips of my
fingers; this pain (no injury) keeps me awake. Remember he said, the Kingdom of Heaven is seized
by forceful men- meaning with maximum effort. If you are only mildly sleepy, praise for Him,
when completed, can leave you sufficiently awake to continue your silence. Whatever works for you:
coffee, COQ10 with tea, walking, etc.

Then He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, “What! Could you not
watch with Me one hour? Mat 26:40

Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is. Mark 13:33

Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching. Assuredly, I say
to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them. And if
he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, [watching] blessed
are those servants. Luke 12:37-38

Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will
come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man. Luke 21:36

Rouse yourselves and keep awake, Rev 3:2

Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober. 1 Thes 5:6

Do not love sleep, lest you come to poverty; [spiritual poverty] Open your eyes, and you will be satisfied
with bread. Pro 20:13
(Jesus is the Bread from Heaven, the Word of God, heard from within - this is a strong advisory to get
as little sleep as possible.)

But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers. 1 Peter 4:7

Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will
not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.
Revelation 3:3

Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light. Ephesians 5:14

All of you must keep awake (give strict attention, be cautious and active)
and watch and pray, that you may not come into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but
the flesh is weak. Matthew 26:41

Behold, I am going to come like a thief! Blessed is he who stays awake. Revelation 16:15

So blessed is the man who listens to me, watching daily at my gate, watching at
the posts of my door.
For whoever finds me finds life and obtains favor from the LORD. Prov 8:34

I remember You upon my bed and meditate on You in the night watches. Psalm 63:6

Again, whatever time you choose, make it a daily habit. And if you get awakened in the night, know it
is probably God, summoning you to come to Him then. Go immediately, and don't worry about sleep. This
is also a very big cross to your will, which desperately, from a lifetime habit, wants to stay in bed
and sleep. Paul got little sleep. George Fox got little sleep. For years, He tried to get me up in the middle
of the night; I was resistant and stupid, so my progress was slow. I noticed when I traveled overseas, and
got little sleep, I heard messages. Now, I get 3-5 hours of sleep - being awakened and clearly instructed
to get up when awakened.

Pay close attention when awakening; you will often get a single statement from Him at
this time. You can also sometimes hear his messages during the day in your normal routine.

The Lord has recently told me, "Many people are saying, 'I don't have time.' I don't ask you
to drop whatever you are doing and come to meditate." He has never interfered with what I have
to do in my life; he knows we are busy with our jobs, children, houses, community activities, etc. He
only asks you put aside some time for him.

It is probably best to pick a time in the early morning; when it is quiet, before you have the day's
activities swirling in you head. Get up an hour earlier than you previously did; use weekends for
intense seeking, and make holidays holy days, by spending the whole day or as much as possible in
silent waiting on the Lord. If you are busy, setting a time in the evening will be too often missed because
of conflicts arising in your day's requirements or because you are too tired. Some can meditate regularly
at night; my wife was like this and could meditate for several hours at night. Whatever time you
choose, make sure you listen daily. It is best to meditate in a chair without a head rest. Sitting up
straight, you have less possibility of falling asleep, though still possible; and he can more easily awaken
you, because any sleep fallen into will not be as deep as would be in bed lying down. If you try to
meditate propped up on pillows in bed, it is far too easy to slink down or just roll over into a lying
down position.

Occasionally when I first sit down to begin my meditations, I immediately "know" something he is telling
me about myself; I feel it deep within me; it is an infusion. There are no words, but the message
is understood in words. Once, as I sat down, I felt very guilty about something I had recently done; as I
sat there marveling at this sudden and unexpected guilt that came out of nowhere, I heard his voice
say, "consider yourself convicted." As you think about what you feel and know, you can put it into words
of thought. It is usually a conviction regarding something he wants you to repent of, which if you own
and repent, you will greatly benefit. If it is something you have done wrong, you feel shame and guilt. If it
is a command or direction, you feel a strong desire to do that thing.

I have also noticed that it helps to focus on feeling the right side of your body, head, hand, etc. It slows
the thoughts down. This is a technique from ancient Jewish meditations, where they tied phylacteries
on their forehead and wrist before meditation to help their concentration. I just alternate
between concentrating (just for 2-3 seconds at a time) on the feeling in my right hand and then
switching concentration to the right side of my temple area, and back in cycles; breathing in while
noticing the feeling on the right side of my forehead, breathing out feeling my right hand. Just moving
your eyes to the far right side can stop thoughts when in a swirl. When you are swirling in thoughts, try it.
It might work for you; but there is no one way. Just sit quietly as best you can. "Be still and know that
I am God." When you find yourself swirling in thoughts, simply return to thinking on his name; this will be
a way to remind yourself of your purpose.

You will eventually notice that you have a thought and then you form the words to express it in your
mind. Your thought has already been heard; you are wasting effort trying to express it. Just keep
quiet, without forming words to express the feelings or thoughts that pop up, and you will have made
a major step. Try not to form words in your mind, even if your thought is bad, just let it be. Your
silent feelings and thoughts, without forming words, are the beginnings of worship in spirit and truth.

Start by thinking on the name of Jesus. As you progress and become more aware of Christ
in you, you can shift to thinking on Christ within you. (per George Fox)
Yea, in the way of thy judgments, O LORD, have we waited for thee; the desire of our soul
is to thy name, and to the remembrance of thee. Isa:26:8

Before waiting in silence for the Lord, I go over the Lord's prayer in my head. My wife uses
it as an outline to expand the words of the prayer and form her praise to Him for
several minutes, before going silent. It is a way to be reminded of the Father's majesty,
his Kingdom to come in you, his will to be done by you on the earth, the request for
your daily spiritual bread from heaven, his forgiveness to you, your obligation to
forgive others, and to deliver you from evil. As you feel praise for him and his
beautiful creation, express your wonder at his greatness and beauty. Praise him for giving
us Jesus to show us the way, to purify us, and to bring us to him. Thank him for his
drawing of you to him. Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts
with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. Take a few minutes before
starting your silent waiting; some may find it very helpful to get focused on their task
- silence, to listen and watch for the Christ's Word and Light. Eventually this praise
and thanksgiving will be without words, just thoughts and feelings not formed in words:
the worship in spirit and truth. When you catch yourself swirling off in thoughts, return
to thinking on the name of Jesus.

Occasional fasting and less sleep weaken the body and thereby strengthen the spirit. I
drink water when fasting; to go without water for more than 3 days is extremely difficult
and can be dangerous. There are records of very spiritually advanced people who were
able to go without water for longer than three days. A juice fast is not really a fast; it is a
diet. The Muslim fast of daytime fasting only, eating at night, is not a fast. A fast is to
go without food entirely for some period of time. If you want to fast, but want to learn
more about it or worry about health hazards, the definitive book on fasting by Dr. Herbert
M. Shelton is available on the web, (click here). George Fox and many early
Quakers frequently fasted. Paul fasted. Jesus fasted. Moses fasted. It is hard, but
worthwhile. You may want to wait for the Lord to tell you "Do not eat." If you want to
fast, fast. If you want to wait for instructions, wait. I have done both. Fasting in obedience
to the Lord's command is easier to sustain.

Dryness
To often sit and hear or see nothing is part of the process, dryness. For long periods of time,
I got one message per month. You will probably do better. You will also get
encouragement. This comes just at the right time. He is trying to develop patience. He
is developing faith; he speaks at exactly the right time. He knows what is best. Don't
second guess Him. He is always there. He will never leave you; this is a scriptural
promise. Long periods of hearing nothing are being in the spiritual desert. He told me
once "keep crawling through the desert." Don't think the process is not working; know
it is. Read John, Peter, Psalms, Isaac Penington, and George Fox for keeping up your
hope. You will find your favorites. Whatever builds your hope, read it.

Miguel de Molinos has an outstanding, encouraging writing on meditation and the

secret benefits of dryness.

In the beginning of your meditations, it may take much waiting on the Lord before you
hear his voice, but your waiting is to be rewarded:

No ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those
who wait for him. Isa 64:4

Let your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, be upon us, in proportion to our waiting
and hoping for you. Ps 33:22

Wait and hope for and expect the Lord; be brave and of good courage and let your heart
be stout and enduring. Psa 27:14

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with
wings as eagles; Isaiah 40:31

So blessed is the man who listens to me, watching daily at my gate, watching at the posts of
my door.
For whoever finds me finds life and obtains favor from the LORD. Prov 8:34-35

Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation. Psa 62:1

Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD;
we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. Isa 25:9
 Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation. Psalm 62:1

He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are
waiting for him. Heb 9:28

These scriptures were a comfort to me when I began, without hearing for many months.
My early mistake was to expect guidance as to what ministry he wanted me to pursue
and where to move to; questions that could not be answered, rather than simply sitting to
be taught about him and myself according to what He, my creator, had decided I need
to know.

Sometimes it is difficult to hear. And it is a challenge to learn to differentiate your

own thoughts from his voice. Your thoughts have a train. One thought leads to another.
You can stop and trace them backwards, seeing how one thought led to another. When
you hear from the Lord, there is no train. You can even hear from him with a thought
that superimposes over your train of thought. It takes time, practice, and patience to learn
to recognize the voice of the Lord. His words are always kind, gentle, peaceable,
easily accepted, without sarcasm, without bitterness, without condemnation,
without harshness, pure, clean, humble, wonderful. Eventually you will hear Him. And
once you begin to hear, you will hear with increasing frequency. He has a soft
voice. Sometimes, you will not hear a voice, you will just suddenly know
something immediately. George Fox called this an 'opening.' An 'opening' can be
expressed in words, but it is a feeling that infuses your entire being, as feeling surrounded
or immersed in the immediate understanding.

Reaction to Conviction

He will tell you things about Himself. He will encourage you. He is kindness. He will tell
or show you things about yourself; some will be things that are ugly. But since he is
your friend, you know that he is showing them to you for your own good. So you listen
and watch. And you don't run; stand before the Son of Man. And you repent of what he
shows you. And sometimes he gives you commands. You are hearing the Word of God,
the living Word. And hopefully you will obey his commands and show him you love him
by being obedient. Keep pen and paper nearby when meditating. Stop and write down
those you get. Keep a notebook of commands and understandings received. He told us,
"Why should I teach you if you don't write down what I tell you?" Then go right back
into meditation. Review them periodically, and keep repenting. You will start changing;
not as fast as you want to, but you will change. You will become more patient, less
easily angered, kinder, more settled, more focused in life. Your desires for the things of
the world will begin to melt away. As you follow his commands, your progress
will accelerate. When you see your changes, still conscious of your decreasing failures,
you will know, with gratitude, that he is changing you by grace - it is working! Your faith
is increasing, because you hear the Word of God and because you are becoming more sure
of what you hope for and more certain of Christ making changes in you, even though
you don't yet see Him.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Eph 5:13-14

You have set our iniquities before You, Our secret sins in the light of
Your countenance. Psa 90:8

When you go to the teacher, at some point, you will see yourself wholly addicted to sex, as
I saw myself. I could see how everything I did in life was to increase my prestige,
power, influence, image, looks, etc. - all in hopes of making myself more attractive to
the opposite sex. Until I was shown it, I would not have believed it.

That which shows him his sins, and troubled him for them, would show
him his salvation;
for he who shows a man his sin, is the same who takes it away. George Fox

When meditating, and you are shown something ugly about yourself by the Light, don't
draw back; realize it is the Light showing you your condition, and He is doing this to help
you be rid of it and to become a better person; and that Christ has died for you so that
you need not panic. Don't think about all you will lose, and draw away, but remain to
focus on the Light that shows you your condition. And then, just when you don't expect
it, strength will come; and whatever you have been shown, you will have strength to
be different from then on. You may not see the Light. You may only see what the light
is showing you. That is all you need. If you can't see the Light, just focus on the fact that
the Light is showing you your condition. The Lord told me, "If a vision or
understanding makes you sad, look at the cross." This is what George Fox called the first
step to peace; he also said this process, repentance in the Light, "is the cross."
The Lord has told me: "there is no evil that I have not already had in front of my hands
and eyes."
So when you see yourself, don't think you are the most evil person ever to live; you're not.
When you see the extent of your evil, as the Lord said: "everyone thinks he is the
worst sinner to ever live."

This is how to kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members:
sexual vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness,
for that is idolatry (the deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5

From George Fox's Journal:

This is the word of the Lord God to you all; what the light does make manifest and
discover, as temptations, distractions, confusions; do not look at the
temptations, confusions, corruptions; but at the light which discovers them and makes
them manifest; and with the same light you may feel over them, to receive power to
stand against them. The same light which lets you see sin and transgression, will let you
see the covenant of God, which blots out your sin and transgression, which gives victory
and dominion over it, and brings into covenant with God. For looking down at
sin, corruption, and distraction, you are swallowed up in it; but looking at the light,
which discovers them, you will see over them. That will give victory, and you will find
grace and strength; there is the first step to peace. That will bring salvation; and by it
you may see to the beginning, and the "Glory that was with the Father before the
world began;" and come to know the seed of God; which is the heir of the promise of
God, and of the world which has no end; and which bruises the head of the serpent,
who stops people from coming to God. That you may feel the power of an endless life,
the power of God which is immortal, which brings the immortal soul up to the immortal
God, in whom it does rejoice. So in the name and power of the Lord Jesus Christ,
God Almighty strengthen you.

When you listen to the voice and obey commands heard or understood from the Light,
you are acknowledging this Teacher within you as Christ; you have received
and acknowledged Christ. Just like when Christ asked Peter, "who do you say I am," and
he said: 'Thou art Christ, the Son of the Living God.' Mat. 16:15-18. Christ said, Upon this rock
I will build my Church - the rock solid understanding that he who speaks to you is the Son
of God, which the gates of Hell cannot prevail against.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you
what he is like: He is like a man
building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock;
and when a flood arose, the torrent
broke against that house and could not shake or move it, because it had been securely
built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-8
He builds his Church on a rock solid foundation. He builds himself in you on a rock
solid foundation.

And if you come to him, listen, and obey what you are told to do, you will have a
foundation which takes you past the gates of Hell with its storms and tribulations. And
when you receive the light, the persecution intensifies, just as it did with George Fox; his
temptations and opposition increased dramatically. Remember those earlier days after you had received
the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Heb 10:32

This quietness process is an essential part of the mystical, missing cross of

christianity. Christ told us what we must do to follow him: "you must deny yourself and
take up your cross and follow me daily;" and "he who does not bear his cross cannot be
my disciple;" and: "When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored
and glorified, and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine." With
the cross there is increasing peace, love, joy, gentleness, faith, purity, Holy Spirit, and
death of self. Without the cross, there is only the old man of flesh and ego with dullness
and disillusionment. No cross, no death, no rebirth.

See Silent Prayer on Sidebar for more explanation of the process.

The Lord's Watching Over Us

Don't look to the Lord for specific answers to one of your worldly problems; he knows
your problems and will guide you if necessary, or he will fix the problems without
you recognizing his work. Don't waste meditation time trying to get answers to
specific questions in your life. Continue through life making the best decisions you
know how, and everything will go well.

While we are seeking, the creator of the universe is watching over us, protecting us,
planning for us, moving the world to our benefit, and always there for us. With
this assurance, we know that everything that comes our way is his will for us; and
whatever happens, even if it appears to be a problem at the time, we know as it is written,
all things work together for good, for those who love God and are called according to
his purpose; and because we keep his commands, he knows we love him. So we know
that everything that happens to us has been willed by God, to help us grow, and we have
a peace that is based on the love of God to us. We can cast all of our worries and fears
upon him, and depend on him to work everything out to our benefit. We have
confidence that he is working for us, even when we can't see how it is happening; we know
he controls the whole universe, and to work our life to his union, is effortless for him.

Do not take this watching over you to be safety for participating in dangerous activities
by choice. Remember Christ was tempted to cast himself from the top of the temple, with
the assurance that the angels would catch him; he replied, 'you shall not tempt the Lord
your God.' From the voice of the Lord as a warning to everyone: drunkenness can
make you so loose that you kill yourself. Drunkenness can result from drugs
or alcohol.

He has to show us each and every problem we have, many that are hidden, and lead us
(by moving the world around us if necessary) to feeling the pain of our problems - pain
so great that when we are tempted, instead of a trigger to fail, it becomes a trigger to
succeed. The sooner you understand that everything that happens to you has been
arranged to help you grow, the sooner you will be able to forgive, and the sooner you will
be at peace, rather than angry or resentful. This life is an illusion. God is far more
powerful and at work around you far more than you can imagine. For those whom he
loves and calls, he controls everything around them. (This arrangement of
circumstances only occurs for those whom he loves and calls.) And if you have a
deep hunger, he loves you and has called you. The hunger is his. It is his way of drawing
you to him. So you will starve and mourn, and starve and mourn. But you will eventually
be filled and comforted. It works. Trust Him. He created you. He is in you. He knows
you much better than you do. He will change you to be like Him, leading you to purity
and then to union with Him in the Kingdom within, where you walk by the Light of God.

He told me, "live in the fortress of faith where it doesn't matter if someone gives you a kiss
or hits you with a baseball bat," knowing everything that happens to me is totally under
his control and direction. So if I get hit with a baseball bat, he is teaching me the necessity
of forgiving, to ignore it, despite the pain suffered and wrongness of the person wielding
the bat. Your life is an obstacle course, designed by God, for you to crawl over and
through, learning to forgive and love despite the pain and injustice. This life is a boot
camp to produce a soldier of love, whose weapon is the sword of the Spirit, the living word
of God. When you realize it is God who has allowed that person to be rude, ugly, and
painful to you, you can easily forgive them because they are just an obstacle of
potential resentment, whose offense is to be overlooked, (or if not overlooked, to
produce the pain of resentment ), thus being used by God to help you spiritually progress.

Do not take his watching over you as justification for going into debt, thinking God will
bail you out and wants you to enjoy life on borrowed money; for it is written, "owe no
man any debt, other than love." If your pride gets you into some kind of worldly trouble,
he will let you fall, to humble you; for it is written, "pride comes before shame." But,
if humbled, it is his love for you that is still at work disciplining you; just keep seeking
with added confidence of having been disciplined. For more on debt, see George Fox's
Letter 200.

And as we are seeking, we have his promises to fall back on and be reassured, we have
his words of encouragement whispered to us as we quietly seek him, we have his
commands to comfort us that we are indeed under orders, we have his discipline to
remind us that he loves us and will not let us fail, and we have the changes he makes in us
as proof - as long as we keep coming back to Him and seeking him in solitude.

Ministry of Condemnation
If you make mistakes or commit sins while seeking, (and you will), just regret them,
resolve to do better, and forget them. Learning is why we are here. Your mistakes teach
you. Forget about committing "an unpardonable sin;" that referenced people seeing
Christ's miracles and attributing them to demons - how could they ever seek him thinking
he had a demon? That's the unpardonable sin, (unpardonable for the duration of
your mistake), rejecting the Holy Spirit as a demon. Yes, it is possible even today to think
the Holy Spirit is a demon, especially in meditation; you can mistake the conviction of
the Holy Spirit as "the accuser of the brethren," assuming you are already a
"brethren," which you are not until you have been purified and made one by Christ.
Fox called this whole process of conviction, the Ministry of Condemnation. To think
the convicter is the accuser is unpardonable, because you will run rather than stand
and focus on the light which shows you your condition; stand still and focus on the Light
that is showing you your condition, and finally strength will come, and you will be
different, stronger in that area from then on. But if you run, you can go back, and not
run; you get as many chances as you will take. When the Light shows you a problem, it
is never in an upbraiding manner; it is gentle, immediately recognizable, but shameful
- shame like a when a friend or a kind father points out a fault you didn't want to know
about - but not harsh or critical - gentle, easily accepted, generating regret and sorrow
on your part. After you are purified, you benefit from the Ministry of Life and
Righteousness, but until then, you must be under the Ministry of Condemnation through
the cross. For if the ministration of condemnation [be] glory, much more doth
the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 2 Cor 3:9

When man decided to eat from the tree of knowledge so he could judge good and evil
like God, he became a selfish spirit removed from the image, direction, and presence of
God. Each of us makes our own decisions with our mind as to what is good for us and what
is bad for us. We all make different decisions based on what we think we want.
Different people have different standards of conduct and behavior. We are selfish
creatures looking for ways to increase our pleasures and comforts; we are like beasts on
the prowl looking for their next meal. The Holy Spirit must show us how captive we are
to our lusts, pleasures, habits, anger, pride, and self-gratification - and how this
self-centered behavior is at the expense of others around us. The word and light show us
the defects in our heart, one at a time, exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging
the very thoughts and purposes of the heart. With our regret and sorrow for
conditions exposed by the Holy Spirit, we receive help from the Holy Spirit to change.
This conviction and condemnation of our beastly nature is the Ministry of
Condemnation. When we have been sufficiently purged or purified of our selfish,
sinful nature, then we receive the Ministry of Life or additional spirit from Christ;
until finally we are restored to the image, direction, and presence of God.

So first learn the ministry of condemnation in yourselves,

that life may arise, before ministry in the spirit is known,
which preaches peace by Jesus Christ, where there is no strife.
Therefore wait to know the time of silence and mind that which condemns
you.
From Fox's Letter 145.

From Letter 58: The teachers without exalt the carnal mind, but the teacher within destroys it.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor
indeed can be. Rom 8:7

From George Fox's Letter 245

And as your ears are attentive to the Lord's voice, that speaks from heaven,
iniquity's mouth is stopped in you, the throne of iniquity is thrown down in you;
that is, the wicked spirit and power, where iniquity sits;
and the chambers of imagery are thrown down in you,
where all thoughts and imaginations are.

For the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Gen 8:21

"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and
My thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

So that we lead every thought and purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ
(the Messiah, the Anointed One), 2 Cor 10:5. So that we have the mind of Christ (the
Messiah) and do hold the thoughts (feelings and purposes) of His heart, 1 Cor 2:16. You
must put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt
according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you
put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and
holiness, Eph 4:22-24. This does not mean we continue to think with a new set of rules we
have learned from the Bible. No; the carnal mind, which is inimical to God, must
be destroyed so that we do not think for ourselves any longer. Instead, as a new creature,
we rely on the promptings received from God, just like Christ did when he walked the
earth; as he said:

I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true;
and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. John 8:26

the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
And I know that His command is everlasting life.
Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50
 the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);
but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing,
for whatever the Father does is what the Son does in the same way. John 5:19

I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous,

because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

So, even Christ did not make his own decisions. Notice, Jesus said he only did the will of
the Father, not his own. In Mat. 7:21, Jesus said: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord,
Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
So here Jesus tells us what is necessary to go to heaven - to do nothing of ourselves - to
only say what we hear the father tell us to say- to only do what the Father shows us to do -
to only judge how we are told to judge by the Father. So, we are not to think for ourselves
- we are to only follow the promptings of the Father. We must have our carnal
mind destroyed to the point that we speak and act from the promptings of the Spirit of
God; this is the end of obedience - to think, speak, and act according to God's
promptings. You have probably prayed the Lord's prayer a thousand times, saying "thy
will be done, in earth as it is in heaven," without a clue as to how it could be done. Now
you know what it takes - and it is not easily accomplished - only with dedication to seek
the Kingdom of God as your first priority, with perseverance, and with obedience to
every command you hear.

If Christ did nothing except as he was prompted by the Father, how could we possibly
think we could act independently, when we are far less than Christ? We also must have
our carnal minds destroyed to the point that we only speak and act from the promptings
of the Spirit of God. Perhaps now you are beginning to see the wisdom of not even
speaking of Christ or God, unless you are specifically ordered by the Holy Spirit what to
say, to whom to say it, and when to say it.

If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves,
he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be
praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power forever and ever.
Amen.1 Peter 4:11

Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man [forsake] his thoughts; Isa 55:7

Those who follow their own brains will weep and mourn; there will be great pain. Voice of the
Lord 3/04/08

George Fox was described the Sabbath rest of the Christian, being a rest into Christ
Jesus, saying: "Think not your own thoughts, for in Christ we are atop that nature where
evil thoughts are, that nature [having been] taken away by Christ. So you should not
think your own thoughts, do your own works, [or] speak your own words." At
spiritual maturity, our thoughts, words, and works must come from God's leading.

A wise man once said, "all thought is worry, which is lack of faith." All thought is worry
or plan for the future, still worry; and worry is lack of faith. Which of you by taking
thought can add one cubit unto his stature? Mat 6:27

Man, who originally followed his creator in obedient love, became a rebel to decide his own way,
taking thought ,thinking and judging what is good and bad for himself. When man is restored into the
image of God, he ceases to make his own thoughts and decisions; instead returning to reverent,
loving obedience to his creator, the creator of him and of the universe. Part of this restoration is to
destroy the rebellious, self-seeking, self-gratifying mind. This is a lengthy process for most. And as the
mind is destroyed, the Lord's guidance fills the void. As your meditations become deeper in
silence, you will occasionally feel a quiet peace, a stilling of the mind; - and then
remember the promise is for peace forever - a quietness and confidence forever - the
harvest of righteousness. It is only when you taste this peace that you can begin
to understand that you have lived under condemnation all of your past life; it is like
a hammer has been striking your head all your life, but until it stops, you never knew it
could be different.

To repeat: when our selfish nature is slain, we will receive the Spirit of Christ, so that we will be obedient
in our love for God - and our obedience is by choice, God not having taken away our free will. Love
never insists on its own way. But our love for God will make our obedience to his wishes to be the joy of
our life.

Letter 60 .- To Friends, to keep in the fear of the Lord.

 Every particular, mind that which is pure of God in you,
to guide you up to God, and to keep you in the fear of the Lord,
that you may receive refreshment from God alone in yourselves,
and grow up in the inward man,
nourished and strengthened by that which is immortal.
And delight in that which shows you the deceit of your hearts,
and judges that which is contrary to God,
and be obedient to that which is pure;
so you will see the Lord God present with you, a daily help,
his hand always ordering of you,
and as a shepherd always keeping the dogs from his lambs,
whom he feeds in green pastures, and waters with his heavenly dew of mercy,
who makes them all fruitful.
The cry of want and poverty shall be no more heard in the land of the living,
but joy, gladness, and plenty.
The wearied soul, that has lain in the pit and in the mire,
and lived in the clouds of temptation, and cried out for want of the Lord,
shall cry plentiful redemption, and say, God is our king,
who filled heaven and earth,
and the voice of our king is heard in our land.
So fare you well in the Lord!
And the Lord God Almighty keep you and preserve you in his mighty power.

George Fox

And this cross is suffered in private, outside any assembly of believers.

For when the blood of animals is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest as a sacrifice for sin,
the victims' bodies are burned outside the limits of the camp. Therefore Jesus also suffered and died
outside the gate in order that He might purify and consecrate the people through His own blood and
set them apart as holy.

Let us then go forth to Him outside the camp [at Calvary], bearing the contempt and abuse and shame
with Him.
Heb 13:11-13

From Molinos' Spiritual Guide: "The Lord said to a soul, 'This inward way is tread by few; it is so high
a grace, that none deserves it; few walk in it, because it is no other than a death of the senses; and few
there be that are willing so to die and be annihilated; in which disposition this so sovereign a gift
is founded.'"

Doubts

It is easy to sometimes feel sorry for yourself, due to prolonged dryness or due to a failure
on your part. Self-pity is damaging to your progress; so no matter how justified
you sometimes feel in your self-pity, it is only a disguised doubt of Christ working for
you when you can't see the results; doubt the doubt. I used to spend time in self-pity, until
he said, "one thing is certain, this has to stop."

Doubts will come. My wife was told by Him when doubts arose to "drop thought."
Don't entertain doubts. Don't write doubts down. Don't speak them out loud. Don't tell
your fellow seekers your doubts. All of these just strengthen the doubts. He told
me, "Eventually the Light will destroy all doubt." A wise man told me, "doubt the
doubt." Cast all your cares and worries on Him. Doubt is the opposite of faith, so you
can logically destroy doubt by doubting the doubts. Know it is just your mind, which
is hostile to God. A wise Easterner wrote, "stop thinking because all thoughts are just
worries - the opposite of faith." Jesus said, "Who of you by worrying can add a single hour
to his life." George Fox wrote: Doubt not, faint not, question not.

The devil will try to get you to doubt the commands from Christ as really coming from
Christ, hoping you will disobey the commands of Christ. Don't. Remember, the devil will
not give you commands to depart from evil; that would not serve his purpose. Do not
doubt your convictions and understandings of your evil.

George Fox also expressed the challenge throughout the journey to completion of
your salvation: to walk the fence between presumption and despair. It is a fine line, one
easy to fall off of in either direction. Presumption is to think you have arrived, start
teaching without explicit authorization and command, and/or to relax from your
persistent seeking. Despair is to believe that you will never make it; it is too hard; you are
too wicked; or some other doubt. Either is wrong. When you find yourself falling off
on either side, climb back up, and keep walking. Remember, it is God who is running
the show; he doesn't fail. And remember, you must persevere by continuing to seek
him daily, and with increasing frequency as you are able. Do this, and you will stay
walking the fence until you reach home.

Until we can stop thinking, we are told to think on whatsoever things are true,
whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are
pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be
any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Philippians 4:8

The opposition will tempt you to despair over any mistake you have made. Don't!

The Opposition (testing in the process of purification)

In meditation the Lord's words and visions are always kind, clear, moral, loving,
and understandable. He will never make a statement calling for you to try to figure out
what he is talking about; his communications are easily understandable. If you get
any message that calls for you to figure out anything, it is not from him, (i.e., a message
such as: 'there is a big problem between us' does not tell me what the problem is - so if
I listen to it, I will become fearful that almost anything could be the big problem - this is
not the way the Lord teaches - he is always specific, clear, gentle, and easily understood).
His communications come with immediate understanding. He never asks questions,
(unless he gives you the answer in the same sentence), because that calls for you to make
a conclusion - which could be erroneous. Everything from Him will also be moral as
tested with scripture from the Bible. He said, "To know what the Bible says is wrong
is worthy, all my great men knew the scriptures. " He told me, "If you don't
thoroughly understand something, do nothing and wait for clearer understandings";
and don't worry about an unclear message and what it might mean - it is not from
the Lord. He also said to me, "only do what I tell you clearly what to do and when to do it."

I don't want to frighten anyone, but after the Lord has prepared you, an enemy will
appear. The enemy does not want you to hear from the Lord and who will try to confuse
you, discourage you, sidetrack you, play to your weaknesses, pretend to be Jesus,
quote scripture, and generally be a nuisance to your efforts. The enemy is fallen
angels, demons. Later they will subject you to Tribulation. But they are under control by
the Spirit of God. Their work is to bring your lusts and pride to the surface so you can
choose to avoid evil. It is a tough time of testing, but one whose rewards for
completion greatly outweigh the efforts required. Be sober, be vigilant; because
your adversary the devil, is as a roaring lion, walking about, seeking whom he may devour.

Temptations

From George Fox's Journal:

temptations grew more and more, and I was tempted almost to give up hope and quit.
And when Satan could not succeed against me in that way, he placed traps and lures in
front of me to draw me to commit some sin, by which he might take advantage to bring me
to depression or defeat. I was about twenty years of age when these exercises came upon
me, and for some years I continued in that condition in great trouble, and would have
been very glad to get rid of them.

When I was in the deep, under all shut up, I could not believe that I could ever overcome;
my troubles, my sorrows, and my temptations were so great, that I often thought I
should give up all hope in despair, and it was very tempting.

Still, I was sometimes under great temptations, and my inward sufferings were heavy; but
I could find no one to tell about my condition except to the Lord alone, unto whom I
cried night and day.

the Lord showed me that the natures of those things which were destructive in the
outside world were also within in the hearts and minds of evil men: the natures of
dogs, swine, vipers, of Sodom, and Egypt, Pharaoh, Cain, Ishmael, Esau, etc. The natures
of these I saw within, though people had been looking without. I cried to the Lord,
saying, 'Why should I be in this condition, seeing I was never addicted to commit
those evils?' And the Lord answered, ‘It was needful I should have a sense of all
conditions, how else should I speak to all conditions?’

Then I could say that I had been in spiritual Babylon, Sodom, Egypt, and the grave; but by
the eternal power of God I had come out of it, was brought over it, and by the power of it
into the power of Christ.

The enemy will reason with you to do something wrong, such as "what you really need
is more of what you lust after;" some twisted logic, like Jezebel in the Revelations
Thyatira church who somehow convinced the other members that adulterous sex with
her was good; perhaps some pitiful twisted logic like "cleansing in the church setting"
or "transporting to purity or 'healing' through rapturous sex." Or, if you have a lust
for alcohol or some drug, you will be tempted to believe that staying high on whatever
brings you closer to God. They also use the logic that you need to get really sick
of some habit before it can be eliminated; so you need more experience of falling to
the habit in order to be able to repent. Don't laugh, we each have our weak points, and
the enemy knows them. These are fallen angels. They still have power. They can read minds.
* They know what is in your heart by listening to your thoughts. They appeal to

your individual lusts and pride. It is your lusts and pride that tempt you, not God
allowing you to be tested. They are the agents to bring them to the surface so that you
can choose to avoid evil. They will persist in their appeal to your lusts and affections,
until you choose without any reservation of your mind to shun evil; this is the test.

*Of the three men who visited Abraham, at least two were angels; the same two men

were sent to destroy Sodom. In Job, the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is
in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. Satan left and the fire of God
fell from heaven, and burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and
a great wind from the wilderness smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon
the young men, killing them. Don't underestimate the power of the fallen angels;
reading minds is their least capability; yet greater is he [Christ] who is in you than he who
is in the world.

Aside from tempting you to do something wrong, the voices from the other side are
different in spirit: they are sarcastic, bitter, condemning, taunting, harsh, leaving you
to guess what they are talking about; whereas the Lords' voice is kind, gentle, pure,
easily understood, easily accepted, peaceable, complete, morally correct, encouraging
- never with even a hint of sarcasm, bitterness, or condemnation - never incomplete
leaving you guessing what he wants; instead His words are full of love itself - his spirit
of Love - for he is Love. His will always be the same voice too. To distinguish the voice of
the Lord vs. the others is to rightly divide the word of Truth.

The other side can intensify sexual feelings to a level you have never experienced in your
life, and they do it at a time to tempt you to think you have an overwhelming attraction
to some person or that you have an overwhelming need; that should you follow through
on your feelings, you would dishonor your body in sin. They can turn up the heat. By
even entertaining thoughts of your lust, (they hear your thoughts), or just touching
someone, you give license to them to intensify your body sensations; but you don't have
to give in to these feelings. They are an associative feeling to trigger the habitual response
of the past; but despite these sometimes overwhelming feelings, they can pass too,
without falling to temptation. It is hard to resist, but not impossible. As it is written,
no temptation will so great that there will not be a way to avoid it.

UNDERSTAND THIS: When you are seeking, and you make a mistake while believing you
are doing what God wants you to do, you are automatically forgiven; you made the mistake
in faith; it was not intentional; so forget it, and keep going, no matter how horrible
it appears. DON'T look back. Christ has you covered. It doesn't count. If you fail, you are
not lost - only delayed. Just regret it, feel your weakness/addiction, ask for help, and keep
on seeking.

One thing he made very clear to me: "he who practices adultery cannot be my disciple; but
I do not judge someone coming out of such a relationship, unless they fail to repent;" so
this has to stop before you can make any progress. He is speaking about faithfulness
being important in a committed relationship; you cannot be unfaithful to man and faithful
to God. When he was on earth; he sent the woman at the well out to preach, knowing she
had five previous husbands and was living with a man unmarried. If you are in a
successive marriage or you are not married, but living committed to your partner, he
does not condemn you, nor disqualify you for receipt of his purifying power. If and when
he wants you to change your marital status, he will tell you in no uncertain terms.

They can also control others around you to the point that they are unreasonable beyond
your experience, severely tempting you to anger and rage; but remember this is done
with the permission of God and is purposed to help you grow in forgiveness and love.
They can turn up the heat. When you can accept that the evil done to you by others, is so
that you can grow spiritually through forgiving them, you have made a giant step.

As George Fox said, "whatever your are addicted to, the devil will come to you (cloaked
in another's person), to offer you whatever you want." People that you haven't heard from
in years suddenly show up, offering you renewed friendship, distraction from seeking
God, and temptation to your lusts, affections, and addictions.

Recognize, these temptations can help you become strong. Each time you say no, you
get stronger. I, and several people I know, can remember when, in a time we did not
seek God, we decided to get married and proposed; immediately afterwards, within
minutes, beyond strange things happened. I had not seen an old flame for several years,
and suddenly she appears in front of me in line to pay the restaurant tab. Another
close acquaintance relates how he proposed, and then got into an elevator, where
two women suddenly start paying him attention, even rubbing their hands on his
chest; when he had never experienced such attention in his lifetime. Both incidents
were beyond coincidence. Both designed to strengthen our resolve to get married, at a
time when we were most able to resist distractions. So you can look at temptations as
either a contribution to your downfall, or a strengthening of your moral fiber- depending
on how you respond to them. As the master potter continues to mold the clay -
eventually bringing you to Him.

Lust for things, people, and pleasures is an illusion. There is no lasting satisfaction. You
get one thing you want, and you immediately start wanting something else. This is
earth school - learning the emptiness in lust for possessions, pleasures, power, wealth,
etc., until we decide to look beyond the visible for happiness. Perhaps you can relate to
the false joy of Christmas - after the presents are opened, after the big dinner, after the
music has stopped - how many times have you felt let down, empty, almost desperate
for another fix - go for a walk, take a ride, visit somebody, have a drink - anything to fill
the void that you can rarely identify? For worldly joy is transitory, while godly joy
is permanent. From George Fox's Letter 245.

So hear his voice, everyone of you, that speaks from heaven,

whose voice shakes the earth, and not the earth only, but the heavens also.
The heaven imports joy: so all the false joys,
the lifted-up joys, or exalted joys, and joys in vain glory, and joys in the world,
of any outward thing or creature, and men or women ;
his voice that speaks from heaven shakes the earth and the heavens;
and these must be shaken and removed, both the heavens and the earth;
before that does appear that can never be shaken,
the noble, royal seed, elect and precious, before the world began.
Being heirs of him, come to inherit him;
in him you shall know that which cannot be shaken,
and there is the true joy, in that which is from everlasting to everlasting,
who is the beginning and ending;
here are not any either lifted up or fallen down to despair.

You must sicken of failure so much, that entertaining possible failure in your mind
becomes sickening; so much so, that your desire to consider evil is overwhelmed by
your revulsion to toward failure. Gradually, over a long time, the associative response
turns around from being triggered to participate, to being triggered to flee. This is like
gold being refined. It is heated by fire until the dross rises to the top; it is scooped off. It
is heated again until more dross rises to the top; it is scooped off..... again, again.
Until finally, only pure gold remains. Purification.

When you realize your thoughts are being read, and when you realize you are being
watched; it can be a little frightening. You can feel like a goldfish in a bowl, being
watched. Christ once told me, "what man fears most is public ridicule." This is what we
get: ridicule from a public others don't hear. It is tough. It invades our privacy - our
private privacy. It is easy to get resentful. Reason with yourself. Understand it is part of
the process. You feel condemned, but Christ does not condemn you; he allows this as part
of the purification process. It ultimately results in purification and more trust for Christ. It
is humbling. You realize how filthy and insignificant you are. The discipline can become
a comfort to you, knowing you are in the pressure cooker, which few are privileged
enough to experience. (Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I
will fear no evil, for thou art with me. Thy rod and thy staff comfort me.) Yes, even the
pain of the rod and staff can be reassuring. He will still give you messages
and encouragement during the process so that you will not feel alone and abandoned.
(My enemies surround me.) Several of the Psalms speak to this situation. By
your steadfastness and patient endurance you shall win the true life of your souls. But
when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know and understand that
its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, Luke 21:19-
21 [flee to Christ, the rock, and trust in Him; the scourge will eventually pass].

Deceptions

There are also many voices of deceit to be heard while silent. Some will be voices of
your friends and relatives. Some will be your voice. Remember, when they tempted
Jesus, they twisted the use of scripture to try to convince him. They will do the same to
you, but it won't make sense. If you follow your basic understanding of right and wrong
and scriptural definitions of morality, you will do well. A few other points to remember:
1) Jesus does not ask questions; that is the role of the tempter, starting in the garden
with Eve when he questioned her, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in
the garden'?" George Fox reminded us of this in his Letter 212:

Doubt not, faint not, question not;

for Eve was deceived by the serpent, the questioner;
therefore keep over him in the power of God, and in that is the reigning.
And take not belief from the serpent, nor take meat from him,
but keep your fast from that which is in the fall;
for that brings from the Lord,
to feed upon the accuser and the tempter's food, that feeds unbelief.
And therefore keep your fast to the Lord,
and feed upon that which comes down from above, in which there is life;
and that strengthens the faith which has the victory.

A question calls for a conclusion. Jesus, our Teacher, gives us understandings and
commands, not questions without answers.

2) Don't fall for them using your love for Him: "Would you do 'this' for me?" - when 'this'
is something that is scripturally wrong. I know someone who had a painful vision of
Jesus falling down while carrying the cross, and having great difficulty in trying to get up
to keep walking; and then she heard a voice say, "would you do xxx to help me out?" -
asking her to do xxx, which was morally wrong. See how far they will go to deceive
you? Wrong is wrong. They read her thoughts and knew there was something in her
that wanted to do something like that, so they tried to set her up. Remember, Jesus has
not gone modern. He does not change with time or as the morals of society change. He is
the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Wrong is also wrong - yesterday, today,
and tomorrow.

3) Common deceptions based on twisting the scriptures are:

since I have faith in Christ, I am free from the Law of Sin Death, and sin is not charged to me.
●

since I am 'saved' by grace, I have the righteousness of Christ, without sin, I am free to live as I
please.
●

since I have been 'saved,' there is nothing I can do that will remove me from the favor of God.
●

since I am 'saved' by grace, any work I do, including repentance, will place me under the Law of
Sin and Death.
●

since I am in the Light, that is the return of Christ. I made it. There's nothing else to receive, (not
true).
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since anything not done in faith is sin, then anything done in faith is not sin.
●

since to the pure all things are pure, there really is no evil to the pure - sin is only in the eye of
the beholder.
●

since love covers a multitude of sins, anything I do with love is not counted as sin.
●

since God created everything and said it was good, then any drug that I use is good and is not sin.

Wrong, in all of the above. Anyone who practices sexual immorality, impurity,
debauchery, idolatry, hatred, lying, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish
ambition, dissensions, envy, drunkenness, cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Wrong
is wrong. When you are truly born of God, you will do none of these deeds of darkness above.

4) They will appeal to your pride by tempting you to teach or preach or witness before
you are clearly told what to do and when to do it or before you have the words spoken
with aid of the Spirit. Don't! This is the test to see if you, like Nimrod, are going to run
ahead of your guide, rather than follow. You don't want to hear him say to you, "who
has required this at your hand." Remember only respond to a full command of what to
do and when to do it, and of course it has to be morally correct. Until you are
authorized, don't even use the words 'Jesus' or 'God,' (unless you are fellowshipping
with others of faith); it is using the Lord's name in vain. Teaching before you are clearly
told to teach will halt your progress; that is why all of the many thousands of teachers
and preachers, who have been touched by his spirit, never progress to union, and
the Kingdom. Anyone who names themselves a 'Christian' without being under
 Christ's control in speech and actions, is scattering and a stumbling block.

The biggest temptation will be to correct the people of the 'deficit sects' who profess a
strong love of God, through faith in the Bible. As George Fox said, "do not try to educate
the wise." Christ said, "he did not come to call the righteous, but the sinner." He also said,
"if you say you can see, your sin remains." You want to help them see their error; but wait
- wait until you have the power of God going in front of you, leading you as to where to go
and chaining down your listener so that they have to listen. Some will still reject the
truth; but they will have heard your words of truth, clearly spoken from His spirit.
From George Fox's Letter 48.

And again, I charge you all in the presence of the living God,
not to allow your minds to go out to contend
with them who are not of the truth,
in that which is out of the truth,
both which are to be condemned with the truth.
For the same mind will boast and get up,
which is out of the truth and reaches at things in the comprehension,
though it lives not in it, but is excluded out of the truth, and shall not
enter;
but is for condemnation.
And so to you all this is the counsel of the Lord God of power and of peace,
that in peace you may be preserved to wait for
the spirit of grace, and of wisdom, and of understanding.

The world is His garden. He is the one with the plan. Until you are under his total
control, you cannot help him, you will only scatter. He has told me: "Let no one think
we don't see and hear all." He has all the thoughts, words, and actions of all men in
his consciousness. It is his battle. Wait until you are totally trained; then do only what
he precisely tells you to do and when to do it.

5) They will also tempt you by hinting at what you should do, tempting you to think it is
the Lord testing you to see if you are willing to "step out in faith." You will get requests to
do something, which are incomplete, leaving you again to fill in the blanks, trying to
figure out exactly what it was you were "told" to do. This is not the way the Lord asks;
his requests will be clear as to exactly what to do and exactly when to do it. And if you
get instructions to do something that doesn't make good sense to you, don't do it, wait. If it
is from the Lord, he will clear it up to where it makes perfect sense; if not, leave it
undone, forget about it.

6) You will get countless visions from the other side. The visions come fast as you
start falling asleep. Christ's usually do not. Try not to get so comfortable that sleep is
easy; but then if you fall asleep, you probably need the sleep. If they can't convince you
to follow the vague vision, they will try to keep your brain working analyzing them. Some
of your visions will be crude. So the best thing to do is immediately ignore them. If they
don't make immediate sense, throw them away; don't spend a second trying to figure
them out. WE GET SO PARCHED IN THE DESERT, THAT WE BECOME DESPERATE
FOR WATER. DRINK WITH CAUTION, remember Gideon's army, (only drink while
keeping alert for the enemy). If you analyze a vision, you are at least wasting time, but
the real risk is that you conclude that God wishes you to do something wrong, which
of course he never will. The Lord's visions come with immediate understanding,
requiring no analysis; they speak directly to a condition in your heart which you
immediately understand and know. Ignore written instructions that you "read" in a
vision; you cannot hear the spirit of the words when you read them, and this is a way for
the enemy to fool you with kind written words which avoid the detection of their
sarcastic, harsh, critical, spirits behind the words. Christ's words are always heard with
a spirit of love, kindness, gentleness, softness, reassurance, positiveness, easily
understood, easily accepted, never incomplete to leave you guessing, never questioning,
and never suddenly contradictory to a string of previous understandings.
Immediately ignore written instructions.

Some of your visions or dreams will be showing you what will happen to you in the
near future; to show that he, who is speaking to you, is a prophet. But make no effort to
fulfill anything you think is going to happen.

Below is a summary of the guidelines on how to not to be deceived by the opposition:

1. Ignore all visions without immediate and clear understanding accompanying them. Do
not try to guess what they mean.

2. If you get a partial message, do not try to fill in the blanks or complete it to your best guess.
 If the message is important to you, you will hear it completely later. Do not worry, he
will repeat anything that is important.

3. Understand that all spiritual beings, including demons, can read your thoughts. That is
how they tailor their temptations to your exact desires. They can hear your reasoning,
they can hear your doubts, and then they respond to take advantage of even a tiny doubt
in the wall of your determination.

4. Understand that God allows the demons to tempt us into following our own lusts, so
that they are brought to the surface, to either deny and grow; or fall to, suffer the pain,
and eventually repent - with a loss of time.

5. Do not comply with any instruction that is clearly defined as sin in the Bible. No matter
how logical the reasoning to violate the moral laws might be, don't do it. Understand
that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever - so godliness is the same, so sin is
the same - nothing had changed, as defined in the Bible. Jesus has not gone
modern, adjusting morals to conventional thinking. Society changes, Jesus does not. Sin
is sin, and he would never lead you into anything that the Bible forbids.

6. Never buy the logic that if you somehow debase yourself, you are demonstrating
your humility and willingness to accept a lowly role. The Lord will never request you
to debase yourself in some repulsive or immoral act. He will expose your lack of
humility, destroy your pride, and bring forth true humility in you; but never through
a debasement or immorality.

7. If you receive a change in instructions, which violates your previous understandings, you
are to ignore the new instruction; if it is the Lord speaking, he will lead you to
understand, step-by-step, why any reversal he makes is totally logical. Until you have
been led with the step-by-step reasoning, ignore any command that violates
previous commands or understandings.

8. Understand that any instruction you get, which does not make good sense to you, should
be ignored.

9. Disregard any vision with a message in writing. The Lord speaks with a discernible voice,
or with a knowing of understanding that is immediately perceived - with no
communication by writing or words appearing in visions.

10. Disregard any instruction to do go somewhere, do something (except repenting), or

say something to someone - unless you are told exactly what to do and when to do it. If it
is important, it will be made completely clear. Understand, you will be tempted to
preach, teach, or witness long before you have been purified - don't fall for it.

11. You will also be tempted to travel, move to a different city, etc. Stay settled. I must have
been told a hundred times to move to various cities, or to travel to various cities - never
with any clear reasoning why - or never making sense. These temptations are all related
to your pride, to make you think you are specially equipped to do something for the
Lord, long before you have been purified and have received a major increase in his Spirit.

12. Never comply with any command that requires you to go into debt. Keep out of debt and
owe no man anything, except to love one another. Rom 13:8

13. Ignore any instruction you hear that is harsh, bitter, sarcastic, with crude language, in
a joking manner, etc.

14. Apparent miracles, (lying wonders), as discussed in the next section, do not cancel
these warnings. They are only designed to confuse you into thinking that God is asking you
to do something wrong.

15. When you get a command that makes sense, is moral, understood, perhaps even
echoing what you can recall having read in the Bible, this is the time to make every effort
to obey to the best of your ability. The opposition will try to make you doubt that you
really heard it from God, or that you heard it right. Don't doubt any moral
command regarding your conduct and/or conversation, obey it.

16. Understand, that whatever you are addicted to, someone will show up to offer you more.
Do not think that God is rewarding you with a vacation from righteousness, it is just
a temptation to be denied. You can be walking and find something that you have
been addicted to, literally lying in your path - don't take this as a gift from God - it is only
a temptation to be denied, thus making you stronger.

From Molinos, Spiritual Guide:

You are to know then, that temptation is your great happiness; so that the more it
surrounds you, the more you ought to rejoice in peace, instead of being sad, and thank
God for the favor. He does favor you. In all those temptations, and odious thoughts,
the remedy that works, is to despise them with a stayed neglect, because nothing
 more afflicts the proud devil, than to see that he is slighted and despised, as are all
things else that he suggests to us. And therefore you are to tarry with him, as one
that perceives him not, and to possess yourself in your peace without fretting, and
without multiplying reasons and answers; seeing nothing is more dangerous than to
contest in reasons with him who is ready to deceive you.

The saints in arriving at holiness, passed through this doleful valley of temptations; and
the greater saints they were, the greater temptations with which they grappled. No, after
the saints have attained to holiness and perfection, the Lord allows them to be tempted
with brisk temptations, that their crown may be the greater, and that the spirit of
vainglory may be checked, or else hindered from entering in them, keeping them in
that manner secure, humble, and concerned of their condition.

Don't let yourself get angry at the opposition; that is what the devil wants. For when you
get angry, you have fallen to his ways. Rather than anger, your greatest weapon is to
totally ignore them, which they hate, for it makes them ineffective.

Lying Wonders

Be aware, later as you get closer, you will be subjected to many "lying wonders;" 2Th 2:9 These
are supernatural "signs" to deceive you to believe they are from God. This is scriptural. They are to
test you to see if you are committed to the truth. Don't consider the below signs an exhaustive list;
as Molinos says: "the devils, like cruel executioners, have a thousand ways to torment the soul and body,
the whole man being crucified within and without."

a) expect supernatural occurrences of noises, popping sounds, visions, flashing

electrical lights, etc.
(visions can be writings and pictures on the carpets, visions on a wall, they can distort
your eyes to see visions in nature,
some can have visions of demons taunting you, even ridiculing your faith - if not
visually, definitely by voice)

b) expect their application of bodily sensations: heat, cold, freezing, skin burning,
pain, pricks, water, fire, darts, vibrations, crawlings on you, sudden ringing in the
ears, heart skips, heart racing up to 200 beats per minute for days, sneezing. These can
be felt on any part(s) of the body, often the private parts. "Above all, taking the shield
of faith, with which ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked." Ephesians 6:16

Suffering - Tribulation (later in the discipling process, and the hardest part of the cross!)

When he deems you ready, you enter tribulation. This is part of the cross, to destroy
the sinful nature within you through suffering.
This produces patience, forgiveness, faith, long-suffering, trust, humility, and even hope;
for even pain can be reassuring of his love:
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou
art with me. Thy rod and thy staff comfort me.

But the gate is narrow (contracted by pressure) and the way is straitened and
compressed that leads away to life, and few are those who find it. Mat 7:14 (Tribulation
and suffering is the pressure; as you approach the gate, the pressure intensifies).

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same
attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result, he does
not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet
4:1-2. Tribulation is not a hard day at the office, a car wreck, a death in the family, a divorce,
or some natural difficulty; it is unmistakably, supernaturally imposed.

For this suffering to be effective, you must realize three things:

1) It is supernaturally imposed. It is not some natural disease. It cannot be cured. It

cannot be stopped by anything you do.
2) Despite the afflictions to your body, no harm will result - except to your selfish
spiritual nature.
3) It is pleasing to God for you to undergo suffering because you are laying down your life
for him - the one true sacrifice.

I realize this is extremely strange and foreign to most readers. But remember, Jesus said
to Peter: Simon, Simon (Peter), listen! Satan has asked excessively that [all of] you be
given up to him, that he might sift you like grain. They were all turned over to Satan
for testing. Satan will be allowed to test and sift you, (a slow process), as well as
inflict suffering upon you to test, try, and develop love within you. When you can suffer
with faith that the suffering is your cross, but nowhere as painful as the cross of Jesus;
your pain is far, far less.

Fear none of those things which you shall suffer; behold, the devil shall cast some of you
into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be faithful
unto death, and I will give you a crown of life. Rev 2:10

God is frequently accused of creating evil by creating the devil. Here is what George Fox
says from his Journal:

The Ranters pleaded that God had made the devil. I denied it, and told them, 'I had come
into the power of God, the seed Christ, which was before the devil was, and bruises his
head; and he became a devil by going out of truth; and so became a murderer and
a destroyer. So I showed them, that God did not make him a devil; for God is a God of
truth, and made all things good, and blessed them; but God did not bless the devil. And
the devil is bad and was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, and spoke of himself,
and not from God.'

The devil rebelled against God. My wife had a vision as to what happened afterwards.
Jesus was standing in front of Satan. Jesus held out his hand, full of dust and said, "Do
you see this dust Satan? I am going to make this dust greater than you, and there is
nothing you can do about it." The dust is us. He formed man from the earth. He
thwarts Satan's efforts to defeat us by using his evil to produce good; to produce sons of
God that are greater than the very powerful fallen archangel Satan. You are now entering
the process by which evil is used to produce a son of God, made from dust, but cloned
with the Spirit of Jesus.

In Acts 14:22-23, Paul was establishing and strengthening the souls and the hearts of
the disciples, urging and warning and encouraging them to stand firm in the faith,
and [telling them] 'that it is through many hardships and tribulations we must enter
the kingdom of God.' From where do you think these tribulations will come? Not from
our fellow man, at least not in this era of religious tolerance. The tribulation has to
be supernatural; various sufferings and hardships poured on you from above. Vials
of suffering poured from above. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which
had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither,
I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Rev. 21:9. See the Tribulation Scripture
References, to understand further how tribulation is part of the cross to be experienced
by every generation.

Remember Jesus said:

'Whoever tries to preserve his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will preserve
and quicken it.
I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed; one will be taken and the other
will be left.
There will be two women grinding together; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.'
Then they asked Him, Where, Lord? He said to them:
'Wherever the dead body is, there will the vultures or eagles be gathered together.' Luke 17:33-37

So, don't panic and run, trying to save your life. Trust in God. He is the rewarder of those who diligently
seek him; but the Father scourges any son he accepts, because it is necessary for purification. And He
uses the vultures or eagles, heavenly vultures, fallen angels, demons, to do it.

First, recognize that they are restrained by the Spirit of God. They are not going to really hurt you or
do anything totally bizarre; I know this to be absolutely true from experience. The angel of the
LORD encamps round about them that fear him, and deliverers them. Psalm 34:7 And greater is
he that is within you than he who is in the world.

Aside from our documentation, there are others who have trod this path and documented it. Miguel
de Molinos (1640-1697), a Spanish priest who practiced inward silence to union with the Lord, who came
to Rome where he secured the support of the Pope and a large following, later condemned by the
Roman Inquisition and tortured to death, left his account (click) for your assurance. He was a also a
major contributor to the Guide to True Peace, on this web site.

First, Before Suffering: They will try to get you to do something wrong; such as something you
just thought about, by giving you a "sign" at the exact same time. They want you to think it is God giving
you a sign to do something wrong. Don't fall for it. Wrong is wrong and is never of God. When they give
up on that, knowing that you recognize the sign to be from them, they will use the same sign to judge
your every thought and condemn you every time you have a bad thought, by their signs, (usually
something done to your body or popping noises). Or, they will use a 'sign' to try to inhibit you from
doing something right; they lie, and switch around, just to keep you confused; so you just have to
ignore them. Scripturally, this is the "accuser of the brethren." Rev. 12:10 Don't get resentful. Any anger
or resentment will just slow you down. Remember God does not condemn you for these thoughts; he
knows you will have them until you you are finished. Even if you repeatedly get angry at God,
he understands and forgives you, providing you keep regretting it too. And he is the one in charge of
your progress, so trust Him to continue his peace, mercy, and grace to you; he never withdraws it. Be
happy you have arrived where few have gone before you. This monitoring of your thoughts
and condemnation will continue for a long time; but do not be discouraged, they will eventually
disappear. The sooner you can ignore them, the sooner they will withdraw from you, at least temporarily.

After you identify one type of sign as evil, a new type of sign is tried to deceive you, and then another,
etc. Compared to the miracles of God, these are cheap tricks. Don't fall for them. Ignore them. This is
hard because you are so famished for God, and you will want so badly to believe that these "signs
and wonders" come from God. He doesn't communicate that way. It is your pride that is working against
you here; your pride wants to believe God has finally started doing miracles for your benefit and wants
to rush to comply with the instructions, hints, or associations accompanying them.

Next, Suffering: When these supernatural signs become painful, and they will, sooner
or later, rejoice that you have been worthy of discipline and persecution, for you are
sharing in the sufferings of Christ. Do not think it strange the fiery ordeal you
are undergoing, but rejoice that you are participating in the sufferings of Christ, so that
you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. 1 Peter 4:12-13

This will be a shock. Even having read this beforehand, it will be a shock. You will be
angry, full of doubts, desperate to get away, perhaps bitter. There is no place to go. They
will follow you wherever you go. You will think you are being punished for something
you have done wrong. You will not be able to imagine that God is allowing you to be
subject to this. But, in the end, you have to trust God. You have to remember that he is
the one in charge, not you.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom
of heaven. Matt 5:10

After the suffering started, during my "quiet sessions," I had terrible thoughts and
words that went through my head. Thoughts as bad as you can imagine. It is easy to
get bitter. Sometimes it was so painful to realize that kind of stuff was in me, that I was
in deep agony. Recognize, there is a war going on inside of you. The Spirit of Christ
is warring against your spirit, the spirit of Satan. This spirit within you will eventually
be slain by Christ at his return to you, but until then, this spirit will probably curse and
find fault with God. It will feel like you are the one thinking these thoughts; it will be
very distressing; you will feel like you are unforgivable. You may want to fall on your
sword to remove the dishonor or contemplate suicide; this won't help the Lord - he
has brought you this far, let him finish the job. The fact that you find it distressing is
proof that you don't will these thoughts; they are part of the war - nation against
nation. Keep regretting your condition and know that Christ does not condemn you for
this; he will win the war; the war is his. He told me there is no evil that has not already
been in front of his hands and face. Remember his blood has paid for your pitiful state,
and he will redeem you in the end. I doubt you could make the many and grievous mistakes
I have made while seeking. But, He always forgave me, always encouraged me, and
always gave me more. In time, grace destroyed the vast, vast majority of those thoughts
in my head; but this called for, and worked to, patience.

When so many disciples deserted Christ after he said that to have eternal life, they must
eat his flesh and drink his blood; the Lord asked the twelve, "You do not want to leave too,
do you?" To which, Peter replied, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of
eternal life. We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God." That is the question:
you have committed yourself to God and arrived at suffering; where else is there to go?
Back to your old life of sins and pleasures? Back to the godless deficit sects? No, by now,
that is a horrible thought. So, you buckle up (gird up your loins) and press on to the
high calling of God with trust and faith that he knows what he is doing, even if you don't
fully understand it. This is the cross. It is tough; but compared to his cross, it is a picnic.

Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices,
holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Rom 12:1

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. 2 Timothy 2:12

Indeed all who delight in piety and are determined to live a devoted and godly life in Christ Jesus
will meet with persecution.
2 Timothy 3:12
For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and He punishes,
even scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to His heart and cherishes...
You must submit to and endure [correction] for discipline; God is dealing with you as
with sons. For what son is there whom his father does not [thus] train and correct
and discipline. Now if you are exempt from correction and left without discipline in which
all [of God's children] share, then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons. Heb 12:6-8

In 1 Peter 1:5-7 he says: [you] "who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming
of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice,
though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These
have come so that your faith - of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though
refined by fire - may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory, and honor
when Jesus Christ is revealed."

Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on
this behalf. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it
first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if
the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their
souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 1 Peter 4:16-19.

"Tribulation is a great treasure, by which God honors those that are his, in this life:
therefore evil men are necessary for those that are good; and so are the Devils
themselves, which by afflicting us do try to ruin us: but instead of doing us harm, they do
us the greatest good imaginable. There must be tribulation to make a man's life acceptable
to God; without it, it is like the body without the soul, the soul without grace, the
earth without the sun. With the wind of tribulation God separates, in the floor of the
soul, the chaff from the corn. Those souls are to be pitied, who cannot find in their hearts
to believe, that tribulation and suffering is their greatest blessing." (from Miguel de Molinos)

For more scriptures, documenting how Tribulation applies to cross for all generations,
see Tribulation Scripture References.

For the time being no discipline brings joy, but seems grievous and painful; but afterwards it yields
a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Hebrews 12:11

When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and
self-control. Gal 5:22-3

The fiery darts are annoying, but not severe pain. The darts have hit my wife and me
for years, usually when thinking something wrong, but not always limited to that:
sometimes just to aggravate us, just when we might have a minor disagreement; hoping
to create a real argument.

My intense suffering lasted several months. No one could see what was going on. It
was private. I could still function in life while it was happening. It was very, very
annoying; not severe pain, but constant and very depressing. I was shocked; I
didn't understand or expect it. Instead of rejoicing, I thought I had been betrayed; I
couldn't have reacted worse. But, you will do better. Forewarned is forearmed; expect
to suffer. Rejoice that you are worthy to suffer. It is necessary for purification and
the development of faith, patience, long-suffering, and love. Condemnation with slight,
but still annoying pain lasted several years.

Their whole purpose is to purify you, show you your weaknesses, and to test you to see if
you are committed to the truth. When the Lord trusts you, he will give you more of his
Holy Spirit. (See Faith and Freedom for the joy of what happens as you wait for union).
This persecution can come to a climax of intense suffering and testing to see if you
are really committed to not pursuing evil. But we all have to be tested. Peter was tested.
You will be tested. I was tested without much knowledge, and I failed; but because I
stupidly believed I was doing the will of God, I was forgiven. And eventually, I was
tested again. The last time I passed; for in the Holy Way, even fools, shall not err in it
and lose their way. Isa 35:8. He gifted me enough of his Spirit to construct this web site
under his supervision; he is using my failures to help you, and I feel the great honor
and privilege to do so. You can read the details of all my failures in the record of my
spiritual journey.

Every caution I have given you is the result of my learning them by at least partial
failure. Despite me falling for far too many tricks of the devil, Christ never failed me; I
kept coming back, and he stayed with me. The Lord will never leave you, if you
stay committed to him. Even if you wander off, like a lost sheep, the good Shepard will
come and get you and carry you back to be with Him. Read the full Molinos book
for additional comfort.
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared]
with the glory which shall be revealed in us. These sufferings are the hardest part of
the cross, but again, thy rod and thy staff comfort me.

Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he
[it is] that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. Deut 31:6

"Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that
it cannot hear:" Isaiah 59:1

So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will
strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Isa 41:10

The Interim Reward

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be
done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

When you have suffered awhile in crucifixion and pass the test(s), Christ will give you
more of his Spirit, Oh! Joyous day! That we should be to the praise of his glory, who
first trusted in Christ. In whom you also trusted, after that you heard the word of
truth, [the word of truth is not a book], the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after
that you believed, you were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise. Eph 1:12-13. Here is where
we hear the good news of our salvation to come and receive the Holy Spirit of promise.

You will know, beyond a shadow of a doubt. After the intensive testing, He told me the
good news, "you are now in Christ," and "there is an open door placed before you that
no one can shut." The world will look different to you. You will see Christ in all
things. Everything will be beautiful. You will see Christ in all people. You will want to
love everyone as you love Christ. Because of this love received, you will no longer fear
God, only fear disappointing him. Such love has no fear because perfect love expels all
fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of judgment, and this shows that his love has not
been perfected in us. 1 John 4:18. You have complete trust and faith in God to bring you to
union with Him in his Kingdom. See Faith and Christian Freedom for more on how your
life changes. Your faith will be sure of what you hope for and certain of what you do not
see. This understanding gives you peace. You will be tempted to think you have it all.
The opposition can create a fake Kingdom; all lights are golden; everything looks clean
and bright through this golden filter; you are surrounded by a counterfeit field that seems
to help your physical efforts; it went away when I stopped noticing it, but only after he
kindly told me, "it is just another lying wonder." You will be congratulated for
having entered the Kingdom. But you are still in the same dimension; you still see the
world, just slightly differently.

The great bulk of your suffering is done, but you will have short bursts of the same to
keep you on track and to be reminded of the consequences of departing.

There is much more, and you must dwell in the Light even more while continuing to give
at every opportunity, exhibiting your love in giving to others through your
powerful increased faith. Don't worry, you will have the inclination - just go with it.
Keep seeking. The Lord told us, "many are so happy to arrive at this state; they think
how wonderful everything is, and relax. Many die here." Don't. Follow orders. Keep oil
in your lamps; abide in the light. You are 90% there. It is no longer you that sin, but the
sin that remains in you, and it will decrease daily. He will pull away from you for periods
of dryness. This dryness teaches us to walk in love, faith, and truth. His Spirit never
leaves us, but his words of comfort do, for a little while; this lets us walk without holding
his hand and tests us to see if we will stay faithful, stay foreign to our previous life of
lusts and affections, and keep striving forcefully to enter the Kingdom. Remember, until
you have literally run into his arms, you have not received the pearl of great price.
Even though the open door has been placed before us that no one can shut, it is still up to
us to keep striving to go through the door into the Kingdom.

But, at this stage you are definitely being led by the Spirit, telling you what to do and when
to do it; this makes you a son of God who will live forever. And you now have both
assurances of salvation: 1) through the aid of the Spirit, having been putting to death
the sinful nature, and 2) having finished the great bulk of suffering, discipline, scourging
by God. So you have great peace, knowing the completion of your salvation is assured
with the arrival of the Kingdom.

This is the time that the Teacher within destroys your carnal mind; the fretful,
worrying, doubting, faithless mind. And as this mind is destroyed, he builds your and
faith and trust, which results in great peace; a peace beyond understanding. But this is
not the final reward. He is preparing you to survive the next step.

And if the righteous are barely saved, what will become of the godless and wicked? 1 Pet 4:18

The Kingdom, the Return of Christ, and

Salvation's Completion

BUT AS to the suitable times and the precise seasons and dates, brethren, you have
no necessity for anything being written to you.
For you yourselves know perfectly well that the day of the [return of the] Lord will come
[as unexpectedly and suddenly] as a thief in the night.
When people are saying, All is well and secure, and, There is peace and safety, then in
a moment unforeseen destruction (ruin and death) will come upon them as suddenly
as labor pains come upon a woman with child; and they shall by no means escape, for
there will be no escape.
But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to overtake you by surprise like a thief.
For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we do not belong either to the night or
to darkness. 1 Thes 5:1-5

And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of
half an hour. Rev 8:1

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The
kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he
shall reign for ever and ever. Rev. 11-15

And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of
the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. Rev 16:17

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but
he shall be saved out of it. Jer 30:7

Yea, Christ is able to deliver out of the six troubles,

and the seventh trouble, the perfection of trouble; he who is the perfection itself,
so he is the deliverer and mediator, and the intercessor,
that makes peace between you and God. G.F No. 279

And the Lord has promised to deliver his people in the six troubles,
yea, in the seventh, the perfection of troubles;
and therefore do not think time long, and your sufferings long,
for the Lord will lay no more upon you but what you are able to bear;
yea, upon his faithful people. G. F. 367

This is what Christ came to preach: Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Look at
all his parables. Most deal with the Kingdom of Heaven. This is the hidden pearl; not
hidden in the scriptures, but hidden in understanding as to what it meant. Before Christ
is revealed, the man of sin is revealed, showing you all manner of evil on the earth; this is
the abomination of desolation, standing in the your heart's temple, where it should not.
But this is end of your fleshly self, as Christ then comes and slays this residual spirit of
Satan within you by the brightness of his coming, by his breath, and the splendor of
his coming, by his crushing the head of Satan under your heel. The final judgment. The
true baptism of the Holy Spirit: into the death of Christ. The sharing of his death. Jesus
is resurrected in you to be your true Lord. 2 Cor4:14,Col2:11-12,3:1, Eph 2:6

From George Fox's Journal:

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him, Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise
with him. Col 2:12
George Fox from the Cambridge Journal:

If you wait in what is pure in you, you will find and see, because God has given you a
measure of his spirit, by which you can comprehend things and see the deceits. Now
when the mind goes forth from that pure measure, which lets you see deceits, the
simplicity is ensnared, and God is not in your thoughts any more; instead, the son
 of perdition in you sits in the temple of God, where he ought not to sit. With the birth of
the Lord [in you], this son of perdition is discovered, and with the brightness of the
Lord's coming [in you], he is consumed; that man of sin is revealed [in you], and so shall
you witness the scriptures fulfilled. But you must wait in that which is pure, which will
show you when your mind departs into disobedience, setting up Baal's priests
(outward) before God, and that brings a distraction in the mind where there is a
halting between two (you and God); for all of the troubles are without in the world,
but Christ said that "in me you shall have perfect peace." Wait in Christ and mind him
in yourself, (there is where you wait for his appearing). Keep focused inward, (stay
seeking Christ within yourself), and do not follow the cries of lo Christ is here and lo
Christ is there to distract you to outward seeking, you will have peace in a short time.
You will later witness Christ, who is the substance of the prophets and apostles.
The scriptures are shown to you within you (by Christ) to guide you to the Father, the
Lord God of heaven and earth. By waiting for the Spirit of the Lord within you to guide
your mind, you will find your strength renewed daily by the one Spirit that gave forth
the scriptures. There is no confusion, but instead perfect peace. This Spirit baptizes into
the one body, and this Spirit is the unity of the saints, who though absent in body, yet
are present in Spirit, all being made to drink into one Spirit. This Spirit circumcises and
puts off the body of sin from you, and you are sanctified through your obedience to
the Spirit. You will come to witness the scriptures pure and clear, as they are without
any mixture [of man's interpretations], as holy men possessed them and gave them forth.
So holy men possess them and give them forth again and witness them again.

This is the appearance of Christ to you bringing his Kingdom and salvation. This is to
see your savior, to see God. This results in Jesus resurrected in you, (by today's
terminology, a spiritual cloning), and having His glorious Kingdom established in
your heart. The world as you see it ends. It is gone. You will not see it again. You step
into another dimension, and walk by the Light of God, not the sun or the moon. This is
He and the Father with you in fellowship. You are not only restored to image of God, as
were originally Adam and Eve, but you are elevated beyond their state, beyond temptation,
to sit down at rest in Christ Jesus. You will enter the rest, to cease from your own labors,
to walk in the spirit, under the power and promptings of the Father, through Christ,
with whom you have joined in union; the pure church, sanctified, washed by the water of
the word, at the wedding supper. This is to have Christ as your King forever. This is to be
a priest to God forever and being next to Him as you worship Him. This is to worship Him
in spirit and truth. This is to love God and be loved by Him. This is to be translated
into paradise, while still residing on the earth - step into another dimension of
sight, awareness, and consciousness. Being sanctified, separated, protected. This
is everlasting peace and joy. This is the prize of the creation; you are God's crowning
glory. This is the ultimate step in the creation. This is why the world was created. This is
the purpose of life. This is more than you ever hoped for, and you will be overwhelmed
with still more. This is overcoming evil. This is winning the war. This is becoming one
with Christ and the Father. This is becoming his agent on earth, a soldier under
direct command from Him, and with Him and His power leading you. This is no longer
you that live, but Christ within you. You have lost your life and found LIFE.

That he would grant unto us,

that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-5

Who has delivered us from the power of darkness,

and has translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son. Col 1:13

2000 years ago, Jesus said, "Assuredly, I say to you,

there are some standing here who shall not taste death
until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
Matt. 16:27-8, Mark 9:1, Luke 9:26-7
Go

True Grace

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, ...to preach deliverance

to the captives
Luke 4:18

Do you not know.. you are that one's slaves whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death,
or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Rom 6:16

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We all agree Jesus forgives us for our past sins, but did Jesus come so that we can continue to sin
without guilt, or did he come to destroy our sin? Did Jesus come to set the captives free from
guilt, or did he come to set us free from the bondage of sin? Did Jesus come so that we
can continue to sin without guilt, or did he come to lead us to repentance and remission of sin? If
knowing the truth will set you free, from what are we supposed to be set free - guilt or sin?

Doesn't a removal of guilt makes sin easier for us all, allowing us to sin more without fear; so Jesus came
so we can sin more, so Jesus came to promote sin? Doesn't this makes Jesus evil? Could the devil make
sin any easier than the guilt-free ease of sin this false doctrine attributes to Jesus? This is a major
deception. Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. If we are a
slave to sin, he can't be our Lord. You are the slaves of him whom you obey, whether that be to sin,
which leads to death, or to obedience which leads to righteousness. Rom 6:16. What about repentance?
His message was: unless you repent, you too will all perish. Luke 13:3. Certainly our sins are forgiven
us while we seek to become free of sin, but we had better be sure we are repenting to work out
our salvation that leads to purification and the rest, otherwise we will fall short of the mark.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest,
any of you should seem to come short of it. Heb 4:1.

Let it not be said of you:

This is the rest by which you may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not
hear. Isa 28:12

For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 1 Thes 4:7

You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and
of God.
[Immoral, impure, or greedy people are banned from heaven; instead they suffer Hell.]
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on
those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6
The disobedient incur God's wrath; including those who think they are Christians.

Regarding judgment day, Christ said he would reject many, who thought they were Christians,
even performing miracles in his name.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice
lawlessness!’ Mat 7:22-23

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things
that offend,
and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be
wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:37-43

Without holiness, no one will see the Lord. Heb 12:14

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8 (Without a pure heart, you will not see God.)

So, if we die still sinning, we are condemned. We have not received enough grace from God to free us
from the bondage of sin.
That is the task - even though we are undeserving, to receive more grace - enough to be freed from sin.
To receive more grace, we must strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek
to enter and will not be able. Luk 13:24

Grace is the unmerited favor of God, God's love, therefore a gift. A gift is free, grace is free. Grace has
been given to all men by the Spirit of God being poured out on all men and women, since Pentecost,
2000 years ago. By grace, we are allowed to access the power of God to become righteous, whatever
our sins of the past and our current problems. This righteousness from God comes [but not
instantly] through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and
fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came
by Christ Jesus. Rom 3:22-24. Eventually, but only after work of repentance energized by faith, we can
all become righteous and become justified freely by grace; for we are not deserving of the help to change
we get in the process of repentance - to the contrary, our unworthiness is only highlighted by
grace's revealing of our sinful nature to us.

To believe you are saved, while still immersed in sin is to ignore, disregard, and treat with indifference
all the commands of Jesus, while relying on a four verses out of thousands to support an
imaginary salvation; never bothering to question how those four verses must be interpreted in
conjunction with Jesus' wonderful teachings and commands. Such expect Jesus to be their excuse for
not obeying the commands that he left his glory in heaven to come to the earth to teach; and then died
a horrible death, to show the extent of the required obedience that we all must have to ever please God.
He will not be their excuse. He will deny all who continue to sin. Only those who do the will of
the Father enter the Kingdom of heaven. Mat 7:21. Jesus said he only did as he was commanded, not
his will; Jesus only did the will of the Father. The will of the Father is obedience to
his commands. You must Seek, listen, obey..seek, listen, obey.....seek, listen, obey to ever be able to do
the will of the Father instead of your own will.

What Jesus made possible is: however deeply you have been immersed in sin, by faith in the name of
Jesus, you have access through his imputed righteousness to the changing power of God to become
pure, providing you are motivated to seeking his teaching and changing grace. So everyone, through
their faith in name of Jesus, can approach the throne; and through patient and persistent obedience to
his spoken-to-you teachings and commands, (repentance), be changed by grace, to eventually be
purified and become righteous. Just as Abraham had to be physically circumcised, we must have our
hearts circumcised to be pleasing to God. As Abraham exercised his faith to leave his home for a new land
- so we must loose our fleshly life and forsake the world to enter God's Kingdom. This web page shows how.

Grace does not make us instantly righteous, for we through the Spirit wait for the hope
of righteousness by faith. Gal. 5:5
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves
whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? Rom 6:16. Obedience
leads to righteousness.
Peter said: whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. Acts 10:35
Jesus said, as a first priority in our life, we must seek (aim at, strive after) the Kingdom and
His righteousness. Mat 6:33
For the time being no discipline brings joy, but seems grievous and painful;
but afterwards it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Hebrews 12:11
So we do not become instantly righteous when we say we have faith in Jesus.
We have to seek (strive after), be disciplined, obey God, work, and wait for the hope
of righteousness.

He who earnestly seeks after and craves righteousness, mercy, and loving-kindness will find life
in addition to righteousness (uprightness and right standing with God) and honor. Pro 21:21
Jesus said: Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,
you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Mat 5:20
Jesus told us how our righteousness must exceed the Pharisees: avoiding committing adultery is
not enough, we must not even look at a woman with lust; avoiding murder is not enough, we must
not harbor anger in our hearts; it is not enough to love our brother, we love even our enemies; we must
bless those who curse us. These requirements of righteousness exceed restraint of conduct; they require
a changed heart, a purified heart. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your
hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8. Everyone who has this hope in
him purifies himself, just as he is pure.

In error the ministers of today say: because you have faith in Christ, even though you continue to sin,
you are righteous and saved.
He that says to the wicked, 'You are righteous;' him shall the people curse, nations
shall abhor him. Pro 24:24
You will eventually curse the all the ministers that have promoted this pernicious lie.
In effect they are telling you, don't seek, don't obey, don't fear, don't strive.

The Lord has said to me: "Where there is obedience, there is righteousness; without it, you
have World War II."
Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior. - a sinner saved by grace???? No! No!
No! Sin has to go!

Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves
whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? Rom 6:16. Obedience
leads to righteousness.
Jesus said: Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. John 8:34
Per Paul: Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this
to your shame. 1 Cor 15:34
Paul is speaking to members of the church at Corinth, people who named themselves Christians -
they believed in Jesus!

The fruit of righteousness will be peace; the effect of righteousness will be quietness
and confidence forever. Isaiah 32:17
No one of reasonable intelligence would argue that quietness and confidence forever, (peace),
is instant.

Peacemakers who sow in peace, raise a harvest of righteousness.James 3:16-18

And grace does not make us instantly justified, for we seek to be justified in Christ. Gal. 2:17

It is through God's unmerited favor, grace, that we receive help in purification through repentance,
which over time can result in righteousness and salvation. We approach God through faith in
Christ, allowing us access to his unmerited favor, grace, to rid us of our darkness to a sinless state.
True grace teaches us what to deny (repent from) and how to live, and by true grace
Jesus purifies us from our lusts and affections for the pleasures of the world. Titus 2:11-14. And
we seek this help from God expecting to receive it, not based on anything we have done to deserve it,
but only by our faith in the name of Jesus Christ. We don't even know from what to repent, until
grace shows us and teaches us.

Repentance is a humbling experience, certainly not one to claim any merit for ourselves. It is like having
a disease that requires a doctor to perform surgery. If we get the surgery, we can take no pride in that.
The doctor did the work. It is like that with God, except the doctor charges, and God doesn't - it is
freely given by grace. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of
God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9. Do we take pride in going humbly to God as a
sinner, and asking for his help? Of course not. To ask for help is the opposite of pride.

So there is no boasting in repentance through the teachings and changings of grace; there is no boasting
in being shown our deplorable condition of sin, while striving to be different in conduct with help from
God. Grace will humble us to nothingness. No. The loudest boasting in "christiandom" is from the
"saved sinners," boasting that the false gospel of grace gives them favor with God, a special place in
heaven, and a license to sin. They are hypocrites, a stumbling block, and they scatter the true sheep
from Christ. A hypocrite talks about being religious, while walking in sin. Jesus addressed the
hypocrites: You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. Luk 16:15.
Your hearts have to be cleansed - really cleansed to purity.

This was John the Baptist's simple message of the beginning of repentance, to get ready for Jesus and
the Kingdom:
Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct. Matt 3:2
Share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
 Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain. Luke 3:10-14
Just following these guidelines, tax collectors and prostitutes were already entering the Kingdom of
Heaven when Jesus arrived.

This site shows you how to access the grace of God to be freed from sin by repentance to truth
and purity. If you want to skip the scriptures that invalidate instant salvation and read how true
grace, over time with repentance, can free you from all sin, click here.

The false gospel of grace further incorrectly teaches that since grace is free, that if we do anything,
even repentance or taking up our cross, we have lost our salvation by faith and grace because we
are forsaking our faith and attempting to be justified by works, thereby falling to be subject to the Law.
That is a ridiculous rationalization by slothful, blind guides to do nothing - leading us into the ditch
of spiritual captivity, while collecting our money, which Jesus and Peter forbid, 1 Pet 5:2, Mat 10:8. Of course
we cannot be saved by works alone, but our faith must be evidenced by far more than a claim we are
saved by faith, doing nothing but claiming of "being saved by grace because the Bible tells me so," (using
a tiny few selective verses twisted out of context to make their false claim). Of course we are saved by
grace, but after repentance and after carrying our cross in faith for a time - works through faith.

James said, "faith without works is dead." James 2:17

James further said, "You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." James 2:24
Paul said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12
Again Paul said, the purpose of grace, results in a people zealous for good works. Titus 2:14
Peter said: whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. Acts 10:35
Paul again: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Acts 26:20
Jesus said, unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3. Repentance requires effort on your part.
And, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19 (Zealous is -
ardent desire, enthusiastic).
Jesus further said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. Mat 11:29
Jesus said, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow
me. Luke 9:23
Jesus said, I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:2-3. He wants perfect works,
energized by faith.
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded,
nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate. 1 Tim
6:17-18
If you live in a prosperous industrialized nation, you are rich relative to the rest of the word. So be rich
in good works.

Hear! Jesus said: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and
shall not be able. Luke 13:24
The false gospel of grace would have you believe striving is unnecessary, yet Jesus ordered us to
strive, ( exert much effort/energy).
And further, he said many would seek to enter in, and not be able. They were still sinning.
Jesus replied: I tell you for certain that anyone who sins is a slave of sin! John 8:34 If you still sin,
you are slave to sin, and he cannot be your Lord; for man cannot serve two masters. Luke 16:13, Mat 6:24
Still sinning , you cannot know Jesus: We know that we have come to know him if we obey
his commands. 1 John 2:3
Still sinning, you cannot love Jesus: If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. John 14:23
Still sinning, you are not a friend of Jesus: You are my friends if you do what I command. John 15:14
Still sinning, you cannot have been born again: Whoever has been born of God does not sin. 1 John 3:9
Without holiness, no one will see the Lord. Heb 12:14
Only those with a pure heart will see God. Mat 5:8
Only those, who are like him, (pure, holy, perfect) will see him. 1 John 3:2-3 (Made holy, pure, sinless by
the power of his changing grace).

Gentle reader, do not despair. Once you understand how to receive true grace, you can be made sinless
by the power of God. But, it is not instant, and requires you to seek with all your heart, wait in silence and
in humility, listen, hear, and obey - repetitively, persisting until the end. You can have the joy of
hearing your savior speak to you, teach you, help you, and love you. At the end, you will see your
savior appear within you, as he joins in union with you - you can have fellowship with the Father and the
son - you can have peace, joy, love, gentleness, kindness - to share in the divine nature - all the
wonderful promises of God are available in this life on earth, and then forever.

But you must first be purified in this life; for of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person
—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one
deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who
are disobedient, Eph 5:5-6. The false gospel of grace is empty words, purposed to deceive you -
to convince you to do nothing, remaining in your sins, so your soul is destroyed.

From the Voice of the Lord: "This is the day of your visitation, regarding the business
of obedience feared and repentance required."

The workings of grace to teach us how to live are a process of repentance, which is not instant; the
process produces purity, righteousness, and the fruit of the Spirit. The cross is obedience to work; and
to those who oppose it, they are headed for destruction, for their god is their belly [their lusts and
affections for the world], and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things.
Phil 3:18-19. For the world would have a Christ to excuse them, at no cost, to continue to live in their
passions and pleasures; but those, who are committed to truth, would have a Christ to change them to
live pleasing to God, whatever the price.

This false gospel's fallacy is claiming that grace and salvation are the same. Instead, grace
brings salvation over time and with repentance . This fallacy allows them to twist the gospel
of repentance with forgiveness of sins, to be forgiveness of sins only, leaving out repentance,
which leaves us stuck in our ungodly, sinful nature without salvation. You cannot continue to be a
slave to sin and serve God, or even expect his approval. Rom 8:8

Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34

Jesus said, If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with
two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It
is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye
causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have
two eyes and be thrown into hell. Mark 9:43-47. He doesn't want us to maim ourselves. He is only
illustrating how serious sin is. Jesus is desperately trying to tell us that to enter the Kingdom and
escape hell, sin is not allowed, period. He knew false prophets with false gospels promising freedom
to continue to sin would arise after he left. Changes in our heart through the missing cross to purity can
take away the desire of the hand, foot, and eye to cause us to sin.

Everyone talks about how Jesus is so forgiving; true, but after forgiveness he says, Sin no more.
Repent or perish!

To the adulteress: I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and from now on sin no more. John
8:11
To one healed: Behold, you are made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto you .John
5:14

Each time you sin, you are piercing Christ within you. If you have sorrow and regret, with resolve to
not repeat the same mistake again, your godly sorrow is a soothing balm to the wounds you have
inflicted. On the day of the Lord, which all will experience, you will see whom you have pierced, and you
will mourn.

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [manifested in us] that he might destroy the works [sin]
of the devil. 1 John 3:8

Jesus told Paul he sent him : "To open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and from
the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins and a
place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me.

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Rom 6:15

Per Paul, true grace is not salvation, but instead a process that brings salvation.
Grace is defined defined in Paul's letter to Titus:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:11-14

One who still sins might mistakenly argue they are redeemed from every lawless deed, but not that
grace has purified them!
Grace only brings salvation; it leads to salvation, attained by a process of essential actions
of repentance.
Repentance is sorrow after grace shows us our condition, resolving to be different, and then
conducting ourselves differently.
Grace brings salvation by teaching us what to deny, leading us to repent. By grace, we are shown
our sin.
We repent by denying ungodliness and lusts, to live soberly, righteously, and godly in
this present world.
We seek righteousness to please Him and in the blessed hope of the glorious appearing of God
and Jesus with the Kingdom.
So by grace we see a problem in our heart. We repent. Then by grace, we get strength to be different -
the cleansing of our heart.
By this process, we are redeemed from all iniquity and purified by Jesus to become
enthusiastic workers of good.
Grace is unmerited and free, salvation is not free. Salvation and the Kingdom of Heaven's price
is sacrifice of self, the death of your sinful nature.

Present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Rom
12:1
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. Psa
51:17
For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. 2
Timothy 2:11-12
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsake not all that he has, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:33
He that finds his life shall lose it, and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

So kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members: sexual vice,
impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is idolatry, (the
deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5

Those who belong to Christ Jesus

have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

But now since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God,
you have your present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life. Rom 6:22

Grace has been twisted into lies from a teaching of repentance, leading to purity, to be a license
for immorality and continuing in our sinful natures with no repentance required. This perversion
began 2000 years ago in the early church; Jude wrote in 1:4:

For certain men, whose condemnation was written about long ago, have secretly slipped in among you.
They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny
Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

These men were false Christians, who had slipped unnnoticed among the true Christians,
preaching freedom to sin through grace by faith in Jesus, but denying Christ to rule their words and
actions as their sovereign and Lord, as he did with the real Christians of that time. The false gospel
of grace was being sold as salvation 2000 years ago; unfortunately false instant salvation, has
become universal, all sects being deficit sects.

Peter even warned us to be careful with Paul's letters, the false gospel's source, (which was Romans,
see below), that they were easily misunderstood:

even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which some things are hard
understand, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other
scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with
the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness. 2 Peter 3:15-17. (If you only partially read Romans, you
can easily misunderstand grace, thinking you need do nothing but have faith in Jesus; but if you look at the whole letter, as it was
intended to be read, you know you have to kill your sinful nature to be pleasing to God. Look at Paul's Romans 8:8, Romans 8:13, Phil
2:12, Galatians 5:19-24, 2 Cor 7:1,1 Thes 4:7, 1 Cor 15:34, and I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting
repentance. Acts 26:20 if you have any doubt.)

and Peter later described such men again:

This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise
authority, [such as the Apostles who tried to correct them]. 2 Peter 2:10
....11 left out
They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in
broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast [hearing the
Word spoken in fellowship] with you. With eyes full of adultery, [lovers of money instead of God] they
never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood!
They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the
wages of wickedness, [they preached for money, which Peter prohibited]. But he was rebuked for his
wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast without speech—who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the
 prophet's madness. [Fox said his era's ministers' spiritual progress were less than Balaam's ass because
the ass spoke the Word of the Lord, but the ministers could not even hear the Lord's voice, much less
speak the Word of the Lord; they could only quote the Bible; exactly like the ministers today.]

These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for
them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful
human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those [lustful desires of sinful nature]
who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity
—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 2 Peter 2:12-19 (And Jesus said, I tell you the
truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34)

and Paul also spoke of false Christians who opposed the crucifixion of the sinful nature:

Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. For
many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies
of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in
their shame—who set their mind on earthly things. Phil 3:17-19

For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13
As long as we live in our sinful nature, we are unruly and incapable of being ruled, controlled, or led by
a Lord or King.
So, if you want Jesus to be your Lord and King, you must put to death your selfish, sinful nature
by repentance to purity.

The Amplified Bible expands the wording:

For if you live according to the flesh, you will surely die. But if through the power of the Spirit you
are putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the deeds prompted by the body, you shall live
forever. Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. Rom 8:13-14
To be Spirit Led is the first (of two) tests of assurance of future salvation to come.

To call or confess Jesus is Lord is not enough.

Even the demons called Jesus 'Son of the Most High God,' falling down at his feet, begging him to
have mercy. Luke 8:28,4:41,Mark 5:7,3:11,Mat 8:29
To say you have faith in Jesus is not enough.
Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say,
“You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith
by my works.
You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:17-19
Whatever you have been taught: Your covenant with death will be annulled, and your agreement with
hell will not stand. Isa 28:18

You are the slaves of him whom you obey, whether that be to sin, which leads to death, or to
obedience which leads to righteousness. Rom 6:16
If we are a slave to sin, he can't be our Lord. You cannot serve two masters. Mat 6:24,Luke 16:13
We are incapable of being controlled or ruled until our sinful nature is destroyed, at least enough to
be Spirit led. Rom 8:13-14

and, Paul says, let's get on with the job of putting to death the sinful nature with its filthiness - on
to perfecting holiness.
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved,
let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit,
perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
No instant salvation here. This is repentance that leads to perfect holiness! Jesus wants to make us
like Him, holy in this life.
Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.1 John 2:6
Follow peace with all men and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. Heb 12:14

Jesus said: He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be my son." Rev. 21:7
And John said, "I have written unto you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides
in you, and you have overcome the wicked one." 1 John 2:14. Being strong and overcoming of the devil
takes effort and is not instant.

For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and He punishes, even
scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to His heart and cherishes...You must submit
to and endure [correction] for discipline; God is dealing with you as with sons. For what son is there
whom his father does not [thus] train and correct and discipline. Now if you are exempt
from correction and left without discipline in which all [of God's children] share, then you
are illegitimate offspring and not true sons. Heb 12:6-8
To be disciplined and scourged by God is the 2nd assurance of future salvation to come.
For the time being no discipline brings joy, but seems grievous and painful; but afterwards it yields
a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Hebrews 12:11
In 1 Peter 1:5-7 he says: [you] "who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of
the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice, though now
for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that
your faith - of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire - may be proved
genuine and may result in praise, glory, and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed." No instant
salvation here - griefs and trials and salvation that is revealed in the last time; as Jesus returns
- the revelation of Jesus Christ - the Kingdom - his return. Salvation's completion and entering the
Kingdom of Heaven coincide in time.

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall
the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where
shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of
God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 1 Peter 4:17-19.
Scarcely saved and suffering don't sound like instant righteousness or salvation.

But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet,
the hope of salvation. 1 Thes 5:8. Even those who already have the gift of love are to hope
for salvation! Does this sound like instant salvation? From Peter we know that love is the last step in
the process of Christian growth:
For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness;
and to goodness knowledge,
and to knowledge, self-control;
and to self-control, perseverance;
and to perseverance, godliness;
and to godliness, brotherly kindness;
and to brotherly kindness, love. 2 Peter 1:5-7

Paul is saying salvation comes after the gift of love which is the last step in Christian growth
according to Peter. No instant righteousness or salvation here. Lots of Christian growth is necessary
before salvation! Make every effort sounds like work to me!

Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest
for your souls. Mat 11:29
Oxen were yoked to pull a wagon - work; sounds like work, not instant salvation.

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found
thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold
fast, and repent. Rev 3:2-3. Jesus expects works, perfect works! This should end any 'works'
arguments. Jesus not only want works, he want the works to be perfect!

Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Matt 3:10
When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and
self-control. Gal 5:22-3
He has defined the acid test of a true believer, a true follower of Christ, to produce fruit, and
much fruit!
Fruit is the product of repentance. John the Baptist said, Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
Mat 3:8

Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, who stand forth without repentance! (from the Lord 10/25/06)

We can't have it both ways. False, instant grace/salvation does nothing and receives nothing.
From above :

No holiness - without holiness, no man will see the Lord, no salvation.

No scourging from God, no correction - you are illegitimate, not true sons - no salvation, no
Kingdom
No suffering and griefs in all kinds of trials, (tribulation) - no salvation, no Kingdom.
No overcoming the devil and sin, you are still a servant of sin living in the flesh - no salvation, no
Kingdom.
No putting to death the misdeeds deeds of the body, not living forever as a Son of God - no salvation, no
Kingdom.
No presenting your bodies as a living sacrifice to God - no salvation, no Kingdom.
No working out your salvation with fear and trembling, no salvation, no Kingdom.
No denying yourself, and picking up you cross daily, no being Christ's disciple - no salvation, no
Kingdom.
No Taking his yoke and learning - no rest, no peace, no salvation, no Kingdom.
No perfect works, remember the commands you have heard and repent or - no salvation, no
Kingdom.
No fruit of the Holy Spirit -not a true follower, no salvation, no Kingdom.
Grace works to salvation; grace is not salvation.
 But all of these things are possible and even promised by God,
if we seek God's grace and help through repentance.

He is extraordinarily patient toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to
repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

Francis Howgill, a martyred minister of Christ, states dangers of the false gospel of grace:

Many have been talkers of grace in this professing age, who have neither known of what they spoke, nor
have informed the minds of men where grace was to be waited for, nor how grace might be known, nor
how, nor what the operation of grace was; but have cried up, in their own imaginations: "We are
justified by His free grace from all sin, past, present, and to come;" and, in this conceit, thousands
have been led into the pit of darkness; imagining that they were justified by the free grace
of Christ, while they were out of the fear of God, which it would have taught them; and while they
heeded not this grace, but got into conceit, carelessness, and presumption; and so pretended
justification while they were the servants of sin and bond-slaves to corruption - that is, all of you who
have been preaching free grace in words.

Your covenant with death will be annulled,

and your agreement with hell will not stand.
Isa 28:18

Paul says: If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners,
does that mean that Christ promotes sin??Absolutely not! Gal 2:17. So Christ did not come so
we could sin guilt free, and we must seek to be justified in Christ.

When we believe in the "false gospel of grace with nothing required of us," all the scriptures
about repentance, putting to death self, seeking, listening, obeying commands, getting a new heart
and mind, purity, perfection, losing your life to save your life, being without sin, holiness, and
living soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world, have to be ignored; or we have
assume that we are pure and perfect, which is make-believe and hypocrisy in its worst form.

Paul says, "if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live." We can't
put to death the deeds of the body to purity by ourselves, no matter how hard we try. How do we learn
to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world? How do we cleanse ourselves
and prepare to receive the glorious Christ and his Kingdom in our hearts.? We need help. We need God
to help us, and there is nothing we can do to deserve this help. We need the unmerited favor of
God, grace.

The method is to go to God yourself because everyone already has His Spirit within them by grace.
You have no need of any teacher but the anointing within you. You sit quietly and whenever
you think, you think on the name of Jesus. This is how we learn from Him, get cleansed by Him, be led
by Him, and come to know Him. He said: "Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden
is light." He is the Light, he is the Word, and he has sent us the Spirit of Truth to teach us. If any man
hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev.
3:20. Eventually you will hear Him. He has a soft voice; that is why it is written, "Be still and know that I
am God." He will tell us things about Himself. He will encourage us. He is kindness. He will tell or show
us things about ourselves; some will be things that are ugly. Christ the Light will show us all the
hidden lusts, affections, and pride in our heart. But since he is our friend, we know that he is showing
them to us for our own good. So we listen and watch. And we don't run, we stand before the Son
of Man. And we repent of what he shows us. And sometimes he gives us commands. We are
hearing the Word of God, the living Word. As we hear the Word of God, (Jesus speaking through the
Spirit) our faith will increase by leaps and bounds; and keep increasing - if we obey his
commands heard and show him we love him by being obedient. Christ in you, the hope
of glory. Col 1:27

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he
is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the
rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move it, because
it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48

He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to me, listen to My words (not the Bible), and
do them.
To do them, is to obey; and when you obey them, you have received Christ by recognition and obedience.
From this sure foundation he builds true faith and hope which purifies you.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23
These above two teachings of Jesus are the core message of this web site:
1) Come to him, Listen to his words, do the words he gives you - obey his commands.
2) If you Love Jesus, you will obey him. The Father then loves you, and he and Jesus come to you
and make their home with you;
and their home is the Kingdom of God within you.
For unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Heb 9:28

Write what you hear down is a notebook; review your commands periodically so you don't forget one,
and keep repenting. Rev 3:2-3

Jesus said, Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures unto life eternal. John 6:27
His words that you hear and obey are the Bread from Heaven, spiritual food that leads to life.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

This is how to obtain the Kingdom of God while on earth! He, with his Kingdom to give you,
Awaits You to Come!

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32

So, seek, listen, obey...seek, listen, obey... Keep doing this, and Christ will lead you through
repentance purity, truth and the Kingdom.
He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him! Heb.11:6
(Diligence is defined as continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal;
laborious; persevering.)

Jesus said, Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever
does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him. Luke 8:18

Jesus said, My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27
At judgment, Jesus said he would reject many who called him Lord and had even performed miracles
in his name
by telling them plainly: 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! Mat 7:21-23
Jesus answered them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.' John 8:34
But, if we listen to him, obey him, abide in him, and are purified by him; we don't sin and he knows us.
The foolish virgins without oil in their lamps, said: Lord, Lord, open to us. (without abiding in Him,
his Light and Word)
Jesus replied: Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Without abiding in Him, he doesn't know us.
John says: we are coming to know Him: if we keep (bear in mind, observe, practice) His teachings
(precepts, commandments).
The only way you can keep his commands is to listen to his voice, hear, and obey - until you have
crucified the sinful
nature within you. For you cannot love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, until you have
been given a new heart and mind by the love of God, received from Him over time, as you abide in his
Word and Light, with obedience.
If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set
you free. John 8:31-32
So if the Son liberates you, then you are really and unquestionably free. John 8:36
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [manifested in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice. John 18:37

Sitting, thinking on the name of Jesus and waiting quietly on the Lord to speak to us, by his living Word,
or reveal to us, by his Light, what is in our heart is not what our flesh wants to do. Instead of sitting
quietly each day waiting on the Lord, our flesh wants to sleep, or worry, or plan our day, or think
about something, or do something, - anything. Our mind will race through many subjects in desperation
to save itself, (he who loses his life, finds it). The following is the missing cross of Christ:

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your life's first priority, is an act of repentance - a cross to your
selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance - a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but you repent and do - a cross to your
selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with
me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is
a cross to your will
(this is the place where you get changed, where your peace increases; in the Light)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness and give- it is
 a cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if you repent and defer -
it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

The cross (denying yourself) must be taken up daily to succeed; the cross that is the power of God
to you, and the cross that is foolishness to others. The cross is the power of God. Belief in the
true gospel is the power of God.

This is the beginning of the cross. There is also suffering with the cross, for when you have been
prepared sufficiently by his grace and teachings, you will enter tribulation, to further the death of your
sinful nature. Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the
same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result, he does
not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet 4:1-2.

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence? (also on the side bar)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more. (also on the side bar)

Read the Bible to keep you hopes high, (Psalms, John, Peter); but while reading the Bible, don't expect
to hear.
Remember what Christ said about the Bible teachers and students in his day:
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are
they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40
Read some of George Fox's writings in this site. And don't forget to give, especially to the
poor. Defer. Be kind.

Keep doing this on a daily basis, and you are "putting to death (making extinct, deadening)
the deeds prompted by the body." You will change, maybe not as fast as you want to, but you
will change. You will get less angry. You will have less desire for things. You will want to spend more
time with Him and less time with worldly pursuits. He will give you personalized commands to be
obeyed. Your desires for the world will melt as your love for Him increases. You are learning by grace how
to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world. You will see your deficit
sect's activities as a waste of time because nobody else shares your hope and faith in the true gospel,
the power of God; and the evidence of your faith in Christ, to lead you out of darkness to a sinless state,
is for you to cease association with such people. If you stay, you will either lose your peace or lose
your integrity. You will have to quietly leave your deficit sect to hear Christ's teachings. He will not build
on top of false teachings. (See Sect's Services for more.) And you won't tell people your hope unless
asked, because you haven't been instructed to by Him, and you're not ready yet to reach to the holy part
of your listener which can hear. This is the cross. The cross is the power of God; repentance
with remission of sin through grace. Belief in the true gospel, and the cross to realize the
promise, releases the power of God to purify you and make you one with Him. See How
to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more details, including necessary suffering.

The cross is the beginning of being a disciple and the beginning of salvation. The cross is only
obedience; and to those who oppose it, they are headed for destruction, for their god is
their belly [their lusts and affections for the pleasures of the world], and whose glory is
in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things. Phil 3:17-19

And Christ's blood sacrifice is what allows you to come back every day to wait on Christ's teachings,
even when you have been disobedient or done something stupid. Grace is unmerited; so matter how
dumb you have acted or how disobedient, you can come back. Because he is your friend, and as long as
you are sorry and willing to try again, he forgives you. Part of the cross is to suffer supernatural
tribulations and hardships. Then he will test you. And when he trusts you, he will give you more of his
Spirit. As you are seeking purification, your failures are not counted against you; He understands that
until you are purified you will of course have failings, and these do not grieve Him - as long as you pick
up your dropped cross and shoulder it again. And your sorrow for failures is a soothing salve to him.

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

From George Fox:

...grace and truth came by Jesus Christ, who would teach them to deny all ungodliness and worldly
lusts, and to live soberly and godly in this present world. So that every man and woman might know the
grace of God, which had appeared to all men; which was saving, and sufficient to bring their salvation.
 This teacher, the grace of God, would teach them how to live, what to do, and what to
deny; it would season their words, and establish their hearts.

So all people (in that which is called the whole Christendom) come to the light that Christ Jesus has
enlightened you with, that with it you may see your salvation, and know Christ your Teacher, your
captain of your salvation, and the grace that comes by him, that brings your salvation, which grace
teaches us, which is sufficient in weakness and temptation that brings salvation, and by it are we saved;
and it teaches to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and to live soberly and righteously; and this is
our Teacher which brings salvation. Therefore have all the loins of your minds girded up to wait for the
grace to be brought unto you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ; mind Peter's exhortation.

Now they that turn from the grace into wantonness, [unrestraint], and walk despitefully against the
Spirit of God, set up teachers according to their own hearts lusts, and such are always learning under
them, being unable to come to the knowledge of the truth, and so go into and remain in the earthly
lusts, ungodliness, and into temptations, and weaknesses where there is mourning and complaining,
and where the mourners are many; therefore come to the grace of God, and that is it which will let you
see your ungodliness, unrighteousness, lust of the world, and unsoberness; that is your Teacher at all
times; which will bring salvation if you mind it, and regard it, and take heed unto it; but if you turn it
into wantonness, [unrestraint], the swift judgments of God will come upon you.

Therefore mind the grace of God, the Teacher at all times which brings salvation; by which you may see
your salvation; by which you may see your salvation brought; for the mighty say of the Lord is coming
upon all the unrighteousness of men, the Lord God his Son is appearing towards you; who has all power
in heaven and earth given to him, who is the King of kings, the Lord of lords. Therefore mind and
receive the light with which he has enlightened you, that you may receive him. Set open your gates
that the King of Glory may come in, who stands at the door and knocks; turn to the light, and you
open the gate, where the entering of the King of Glory is seen. And come off all the barren mountains
that are in the fall out from God’s image, life, and power, come from all the wells without water, and
tempests and clouds without rain which wander about. Come to the light, and receive the light, that in
the light you may receive Christ, and become his sons; that through that you may see the morning star
appear where the Sons of God Sing together. For woe is to the world which lies in wickedness, for the
Lord is come to judge it; and to give all Men the reward according to their works, whether they are
good, or whether they are evil: And with the light you may every one know whether your works are
good, or whether they are evil, for that which may be known of God is made manifest in you, which
God has showed to you, when you do the thing that is unrighteous or worthy of death; by that of God in
you, you can tell.

And when you go from that of God within you, you do not glorify God, as God, but you are strangers
from his life; and strangers from the covenant of life; and peace which is in Christ; and so come your
foolish hearts to be dark fed and filled with unrighteousness, and upon such come God's judgments and
wrath.

Now they who are made free from the wrath which is to come, they are come to that of God in them; to
the light, and so see Christ the covenant of peace, who destroys the devil, and takes away the enmity
which is between them and the Lord, through which comes the wrath, woe and misery; by which light,
(Christ, God's covenant), man is brought into Peace with God, and saved from the wrath to come, from
all the false ways, teachings, false worship false churches, commands, traditions, rudiments, will-
worships, inventions, handy works, worship, lip service, to the light and Spirit of God in your own
particulars, that by it you may turn to God, and worship him in Spirit; and walk in the Spirit, Christ
Jesus, who was before sin was. For since the beginning that man fell from God, from his power and
image, have all false ways, false worships, false churches, been set up; even by that Spirit and power,
and wisdom that is out of the Truth, below, which has killed about them. So there is a way in which is
the life, and he is the light which enlightens you. Therefore come to the light, and you come to the way,
which was before the power of death was, whose name is Christ, and such as are out of the light, are out
of him in the ways of death and darkness and captivity; for as the outward Jews were in captivity under
Pharaoh so the inward Jews in the Spirit, are in captivity in spiritual Sodom and Egypt, which do not
mind the leadings of the Spirit and do not hearken to what it says; for every one must hearken and hear
what the Spirit said to the churches, and not to hearken and hear a visible thing; and in that they would
edify, build, join, unite, and come into Fellowship.

If you are a sect's teacher or a preacher, you won't be able hear, because you are in captivity, having
led others into captivity, Rev 13:10; to be able to hear, you have to stop teaching or preaching until you
are perfected, adjusted, and set to rights by Christ. Luke 6:40. See Teachers and Preachers for more detail.

The End of the Process of Grace, which Brings Salvation

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to
be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1 Peter 1:13.
So grace is brought to you at the end, the revealing of Christ within a man.
but he who perseveres and endures to the end will be saved. Mat 10:22
(the end in Christ's appearance in you, which is the end of grace's bringing salvation to you)
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Tit 2:11

He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
Heb 9:28.
Notice he appears to bring salvation. But he doesn't bring salvation to the whole world - only to
those waiting for him.
Notice, he only appears to those who are waiting for him - not to the whole world. He appears
within those who have obeyed him.
(He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the revelation of Christ, within the purified believer -
bringing salvation.)

When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone with this hope purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
If Jesus appears to the whole world, how could anyone be like him when he appears?
The deficit sects teach that you don't have to be pure, you don't have to be perfect, you don't have to be holy.
No one is even trying. No one knows how. So no one would be like him, if he appeared as they teach.
But if one has the hope of seeing their savior, they will purify their hearts, by faith and grace, to see God.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8
He appears to the purified heart of a believer - he is seen. This is his second coming - to the purified heart.
To be purified, you must come to him, listen for him, hear him, and obey him - repetitively, over time.
You are purified by faith in Jesus - faith in his convictions being true, and faith enough to obey
his commands.

For God Who said, Let light shine out of darkness, has shone in our hearts so as the Light for
the illumination of the knowledge of the majesty and glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ
(the Messiah). 2 Cor 4:6

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who
has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for
evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet 4:1-2. For I consider that the sufferings of this
present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:18

When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Col 3:4
When Christ appears in you, bringing his kingdom, you will appear there also - in the kingdom within you
- in glory.
How are you going to appear in glory, unless it is inside of your heart, to your mind's eye? Hidden from
the world.
Other than the fruit of the Spirit, the world does not see Christ; for such
a person's life in hidden in Christ Jesus. Col 3:3

Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to
show yourself to us and not to the world?"
Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father
will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I
am in you. Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who
loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love
him and show myself to him," John 14:20-23.
So he only appears to those who have heard him speak commands to them,
and have obeyed him.

This mystery .. is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display,
Nor will people say, Look! Here ! or, See, there!
For behold,the kingdom of God is within you and among you. Luke 17:20-21
The kingdom and Christ are within waiting to be revealed at the time
grace brings salvation.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions,
and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,
while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and
Savior, Jesus Christ. Tit 2:11-13

I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people. 2
Cor 6:16
The end of grace is to bring the completion of salvation, at the second appearance of Jesus
Christ, but only within those who have purified themselves and who have been looking for the blessed
hope of this coming.

No, his appearance in not a physical return to the earth. His second appearance in glory, with his
Kingdom, is in the hearts of those believers who have crucified their sinful nature, preparing the way of
the Lord, to take up the throne in your purified hearts, cleansed of all sin, there to be your King for the
rest of you life on earth, and then forever. See The Second Appearance of Jesus for more information.

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him, Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with him. Col 2:12

There must be "a coming into his death, a suffering with Christ;" and this is of necessity to
salvation; and not temporarily, but continually: there must be a "dying daily."

The key phrase here is "grace can help you as long as you keep trying." Prize your time. Spend it well.
Time goes quickly. Remember you are taking a course that will affect you forever. Do not neglect so great
a salvation. It deserves at least an hour a day of solitary quiet time waiting for and listening to your
savior and teacher. And as he draws you to himself, spend more time. The more time you spend waiting
on him, the faster you will hear, see, and change; and then enter the Kingdom of Heaven, paradise.

Objection 1: How could all this be true, when the whole world believes differently?

Answer 1: The whole world follows a false religion, just as it was predicted in the Book of Revelation.
These 30,000 so-called Christian sects are Babylon painted to look like Zion, deceiving all the nations
into her spiritual adultery and fornications. The whole world follows this beast with horns like a lamb,
with many names, and power given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and tongue
and nation. The deficit sects pretend that Christ is their husband; but these false churches are the whore
of Babylon, which substitute superstitious ritual for obedience to Christ's commands to repent,
his teachings, his requirements, his warnings, his required holiness, his gospel, his Kingdom, his
promised freedom from sin, and his cross of self-denial - the Missing Cross to Purity. This mystery
of iniquity is permitted by God to test the elect's commitment to truth. (See Babylon and Apostasy for
the details).

Objection 2: But Christ said: Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you
rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest
for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light. The cross is not easy; to forsake everything is
not easy, to lose your life is not easy, and to suffer is not easy. What should I believe?

Answer 2: He calls those who have sickened of the worldly life and the pig fodder of its supposed
rewards; as he told me: No one can come to me, unless they have had a life-shattering experience.
Coming to him is in this life to be purified is very easy, compared to being purified in Hell, (See Is
There Hope for All); you will be purified here voluntarily, or there involuntarily. While here on the
cross, you have his encouragement, his forgiveness, his constant help, and his arranging the world
around you to speed your progress. Your cross is a picnic in the park, compared to His cross. The end
result of the cross is freedom, peace, and rest - a rest from the labors of the world; to sit down in
Christ, following his promptings and guidance, propelled by the power of the Holy Spirit, comforted by
his peace, love, and joy. Without holiness, no one will see the Lord. Without a pure heart, you will not
see God. The cross is the only way. Those who tell you any different, they are the enemies of the cross
of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who
set their mind on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for
the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to
His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself. Phil
3:18-21. Gentle reader, let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of
you should seem to come short of it. Heb 4:1. Let us get on with the task of going to and waiting on the
Lord, so that he can perfect holiness in us - all done by grace.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more information how to hear, see, and be changed.

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Here the arguments for the false gospel of grace are exposed. The error is looking at only a few of
the verses in Paul's lengthy letter to the Romans, ignoring the whole of the letter. Here is how they did
it, starting with Romans 3:10

"There is no one righteous, not even one; Romans 3:10

there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. Romans 3:11
All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even
one." Romans 3:12
(No one is righteous, no one decides to seek God themselves; God draws us to Himself. Therefore, no
one can boast. )

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we
become conscious of sin. Romans 3:20
(We cannot obtain righteousness by following the Law.)

But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the
Prophets testify. Rom 3:21
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no
difference, Rom 3:22
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:23
Correct, righteousness comes through faith in Jesus; no matter what you have done, righteousness is
available through faith,
but this is not instant righteousness, as they incorrectly assume.

Paul clarifies: for we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. Gal. 5:5
and Paul further: you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to
righteousness. Rom 6:16
And Jesus said, But seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. Mat 6:33
So, by faith we are given the right to approach God, seeking his grace; but we are not instantly
righteous.
Otherwise, we would not be told to seek, wait, obey, and hope for righteousness.
and Paul: Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this
to your shame. 1 Cor 15:34
These blind guides want to rest on the "imputed righteousness of Christ" to us, based on our faith; as it
was with Abraham.
True, Abraham received imputed righteousness even before he was circumcised. True, our faith is
imputed righteousness.
But he went on to be circumcised, just as we must receive the spiritual circumcision- our heart
circumcised from sin.
As Abraham exercised his faith to leave his home for a new land - so we forsake the world to enter God's
Kingdom.
We can't just sit around celebrating our imputed righteousness, which only gives us the right to
approach God for help.
No, we must go to Him to receive his cleansing grace to become righteous- the fruit of which is peace;
the effect of righteousness will be quietness and confidence forever. Isaiah 32:17
Imputed peace, quietness and confidence forever is the make-believe instant righteousness of make-
believe Christians.
So, this is the test: You are righteous and justified, if you have the peace that passes all understanding;
quietness and confidence forever.

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Rom 3:24
But this access to God does not make us instantly justified, for we seek to be justified in Christ.
Gal. 2:17

And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. Rom 11:6
Not of works, lest any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9
It is faith and grace that saves. We are not saved by works, but by grace resulting from our faith in
Jesus. Very true!
But slaves of depravity twist grace to be instantly complete and to justify DOING NOTHING, even
repenting!
Per Paul: Grace teaches what to deny and how to live in a godly way that leads to purity. Titus 2:11-14<
These whitewashed false prophets have the audacity to claim that the cross and repentance is 'works;'
Going beyond ridiculous, they tell you that if you do anything, you will loose your salvation by falling
under the law.
This is a malicious distortion of the truth, dreamed up by lazy, evil men, devoid of any sense of
godliness.
Works without faith in Christ count for nothing with God. But works energized by faith in Christ are
essential.
Paul said, I declared..that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:20
The cross is only obedience, and those who oppose it are headed for destruction, for their god is their
belly. Phil 3:19
You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? James 19-20
Paul further said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12
Again Paul said, grace results in a people zealous for good works. Titus 2:14
Jesus said, unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3. Repentance requires effort on your
 part.
And, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19 (Zealous is -
ardent desire, enthusiastic).
Jesus further said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. Mat 11:29
Jesus said, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow
me. Luke 9:23
Jesus said, I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:2-3. Jesus wants perfect works.
Jesus said, Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures unto life eternal. John 6:27
James said: You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2:24
So works are essential to realizing righteousness, purity, salvation, and the Kingdom - given to us by
faith and grace.
Paul again: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts
26:20

The blind guides say that since grace is free, there is NOTHING you need to do for salvation. Free is
free.
I say, true; grace is free, but salvation is not. Salvation comes by the long process of the gifts of grace
with faith that is evidenced by works, starting with repentance. We are saved by grace, as the sinful
nature dies on the cross; and our death is not evidence of being worthy of God's gifts - no, just the
shame of being so unworthy.

Remember, Jesus told his disciples to preach repentance with remission of sins. Luke 24:47
False grace/salvation, keeps the forgiveness and ignores repentance; the blind guides don't even
know how to repent.
That is what this web site is dedicated to teaching: how to receive conviction requiring
repentance, and how to receive the cleansing, changing grace that leads to purity and the
Kingdom of Heaven, paradise while on earth.

Paul again: What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Romans 6:15
So grace, is not a license to continue to sin. We are not condemned while we are waiting to be cleansed,
but per Paul again, we have to continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians
2:12

Per Paul again: But God be thanked, that you were the servants of sin,
but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Roman 6:17
(he is talking to people then free from sin, having obeyed the doctrine that made them free from sin)
Being then made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness. Romans 6:18
by obedience to the doctrine referred to in 6:17, they were made free from sin and servants to
righteousness
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto holiness,
and the end everlasting life. Romans 6:22 You cannot serve God unless you are free from sin.
Everlasting life comes after you have produced fruit unto holiness.

And finally Paul says it all to conclusion:

For if you live after the flesh, you shall die:
but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live. Romans 8:13-14
and Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all
filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
So there it is: perfecting holiness. I can't imagine a stronger requirement than to be
perfectly holy.
This is not make-believe christianity, this is the real requirements of being a Christian.

Paul again, speaking to mature Christians who have been set free from sin and are
enjoying holiness:
But now since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God,
you have your present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life. Rom 6:22

Paul's patient teachings, explaining in detail how salvation works, have been twisted into
the devilish doctrine of instant salvation.

So the false grace/salvation doctrines are based on "cherry picking" a few verses from
the Bible about grace and twisting them to mean salvation, while ignoring
the preponderance of other verses throughout the Bible that totally change their
meaning considered alone; by promoting "instant salvation by faith and grace," they
excuse evil to good, they make black white; and they ask you to pay them money for
their error, even when they are specifically forbidden to take money. 1 Pet 5:2. And Acts 20:29-
31 tells us: Even from among your own selves men will come to the front who, by
saying perverse (distorted and corrupt) things, will endeavor to draw away the
disciples after them.They were taught by Bible Colleges rather that Christ himself. See a
few of George Fox's writings on these blind guides. Instant grace is the broad way that
leads to destruction, vs. the narrow way that is contracted by pressure that leads to
life, which few will find.

The world wants a Christ that excuses them to live their life as they choose; that is why
the false, instant grace/salvation has swept the deficit sects - false teachers telling them
what their itching ears want to hear: relax, just say you believe in Jesus, get washed by
water, and by magic you are reborn, free to continue your 'new life' in sin - but assured
of escaping Hell and going to heaven when you die. Relax, relax, grace, grace. Didn't
your common sense tell you the false, instant salvation your preacher sold you was at least
a little suspicious?

Let everyone who names the name of the Lord give up all iniquity and
stand aloof from it. 2 Tim 2:19

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself
How to Benefit from the Changing
Power of God
True Grace vs. False Grace
The Missing Cross
The Fallacy
of John 3:16
Taken Out of Context
The Evidence of
a True Follower -
to Show Fruit
Coming Out of the World
Perfection and Purity
My Sheep Hear My Voice
Love Poems to the Lord
The Missing Cross
Your Holy Will
Love Your Neighbor
To Know You, The Only True God
For if you live according to the sinful nature you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Holy is Our God
Rom 8:13
Why Christ
is the Only Way Those who belong to Christ Jesus
Why is Evil Allowed? have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Suffering, War, Famine? Gal 5:24

Faith and What is

Christian Freedom? For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who
The Bond of Peace are perishing,
Submission to Government but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Cor 1:18
You Must Eat My Flesh and Drink My
Blood
Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.
The Second Appearance of Jesus is When you have clicked to the on-line Bible, you can change and update to see any Bible version that you prefer.
Within the Hearts of Purified
Believers
Union with God Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven,
Water Baptism, Communion, and but [only] he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
Sacraments Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in
Is there Hope for ALL Men and Your name,
Women? cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?
The Mystery of the Light And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you;
Is the Law Dead? depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness [still sin] !' Mat 7:21-23
Yes for God's Favor,
But Obedience -
Only those who do the will of the Father enter the Kingdom of heaven. Mat
is Still Required
7:21.
Jesus said he only did as he was commanded, not his will; Jesus only did
Modern Fox Critics Answered the will of the Father. The will of the Father is obedience to his commands.
To the Ministers, Preachers and You must Seek, listen, obey..seek, listen, obey.....seek, listen, obey to ever
Religious Teachers be able to do the will of the Father instead of your own will.
To Be Born Again,You Must First Die
to Self
To confess (say) Jesus is Lord is not enough. Jesus said he would reject many who claim to be
Deficiencies of the saved Christians; many who called him Lord, who had prophesied, and even performed
Deficit Sects miracles in his name. So here are people who call Jesus Lord and do miracles in his name. They
Only Those Who Do the Will of the claim he is their Lord and think they are in Christ.
Father Enter the Kingdom of Heaven
In reply to them, Jesus said plainly:

Selections from
George Fox
True Faith vs. False Faith
Why Silence?
Fox's Miracles, Prophecies,
Deaths of Persecutors, Discernings,
Debates
The Light
To the Scattered Sheep
Fox Statements from the Lord's
Presence
The Wonderful Message of
George Fox's Ministry
Proper Worship Services
To the Troubled Soul
Why Swearing
"To tell the truth"
is Wrong
Statement of Belief
Principles of the Faith
Live in the Kingdom of Heaven
While on Earth
Letters to the Muslims
We Forgot About Covetousness
The Way to the Kingdom
God Dwells Not in
Man-Made Buildings
Why Tithing is Wrong
The Complete Journal of
George Fox
Introduction to Fox and Early
Quakers by William Penn Founder
of Pennsylvania
Complete Journal
Starting with Chapter 1 -
Translation to the Kingdom of
God
Letters of George Fox
Introductions to the Letters
Letters 1 - 410
Summary of George Fox's Life
and the History of the Early
Quakers
Early Quaker Letters to Each Other
in Historical Sequence
Early Quakers' Advice to Children
1. I never knew you. Though they called him Lord; prophesied, drove out demons, and
performed miracles in his name.
John says: we are coming to know Him: if we keep (bear in mind, observe, practice) His teachings
(precepts, commandments).
The only way you can keep his commands is to listen to his voice, hear, and obey - until the sinful
nature within you has been crucified . For you cannot love God with all your heart, mind, soul and
strength, until you have been given a new heart and mind by the love of God, received from Him over
time, as you abide in his Word and Light, with obedience.
2. Depart from me, you who practic lawlessness! Whoever commits sin also
commits lawlessness. 1 John 3:4.
Jesus rejected the people who thought they were Christians, because they still sinned. They did not
obey him.
But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? Luke 6:46
I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. If we are a slave to sin, he can't be
our Lord. We cannot serve two masters. Mat 16:24 Luke 16:13. You are the slaves of him whom you obey,
whether that be to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience which leads to righteousness. Rom 6:16.
Jesus said these so-called-Christians with great faith to perform miracles will be
rejected because they were still sinning; they had not crucified the sinful nature
on the cross, which is necessary to belong to Christ Jesus.Gal 5:24
To be in Christ is explained by Paul. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new
creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. 2
Cor 5:17.This is not to imagine yourself a new creature; this is to experience the death of the old and the
birth of the new. And death of the old is only through the cross of Christ, sharing in the suffering of
Christ, sharing in the death of Christ, sharing in the burial of Christ, sharing in the resurrection of Christ
- that is NEW - all else is presumption and imagination, or make-believe Christianity.
Some sects even believe: once saved, always saved, based on the scripture,
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my
Father's hand, John 10:29. The fallacy not in the scripture, but is in believing
that salvation is possible without crucifixion of the sinful nature on the
cross through repentance to purity. The sinner's prayer and/or water
baptism is not a substitute for the cross. Wearing a jewelry cross is not
a substitute for daily picking up your cross of self-denial, which is necessary
to be a follower of Jesus.
You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance
in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things
God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6
All who practice lawlessness [who sin] with be gathered out of His
Kingdom and cast into the fire,
where there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42.
Let everyone who names the name of the Lord give up all iniquity and stand aloof from it. 2 Tim 2:19
Another common claim of salvation is based on Roman 10:9-10-
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart
that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart
one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made
unto salvation.
● To confess, is to acknowledge that Jesus is your Lord, who controls your
words and deeds - this only happens after death of self.
● To believe in your heart God resurrected Him, is to have received this in
your heart by God's revelation - not by reading or hearing about it; it must
be revelation - not mental assent.
● To believe unto righteousness is to have become righteous, through death
of the selfish spirit on the cross, thus receiving Christ's controlling spirit
to make you righteous.
● You don't become righteous by saying that Jesus is Lord. You only
become righteous when he controls your words and deeds; then and only
then, can your truthfully say Jesus in Lord (of you, by your obedience to

The Proof of the Early
Quaker's Being in the Same
Spirit as the Apostles.
Their Love for All
Miracles and Signs
Persecutions Suffered
William Penn, Founder of
Pennsylvania
No Cross, No Crown and No
Salvation
Biography
Fruits of Solitude in Reflections
and Maxims (Proverbs)
The Treasure of Penn's
Spiritual Counsel to His
Children
William Dewsbury
Early Quaker Notable
Biography
Letters of Encouragment
Messages Direct
from the Lord
James Parnell, the 16 year
old Minister Martyred at 19
His Memoir
and Several Letters
Does Christ
or Scripture Rule?
Come, Try Your Faith!
To Belivers
Still in their Flesh
Encouraging
Friends
The Martyred Priest, Miguel
de Molinos'
A Spiritual Guide
Book I (Silence)
Book III (Tribulation)
Margaret Fox Selections
his controlling commands).
You only experience salvation after death of your selfish spirit of flesh on
●
the cross, and receipt of sufficient spirit of Christ to control your every
word and deed. Then you confess him to be Lord.
● Salvation is not saying Jesus is Lord or pointing to scripture - it is to
be experienced. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;
old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Even Adolph Hitler was a believer; he said Jesus was his Lord and Savior. Surely you don't think he
was saved? The thousands of Catholic priests who slowly tortured and brutally murdered 9,000,000
people for being witches during the Middle Ages were believers too. All were baptized, took
communion, prayed frequently, confessed Jesus as Lord, read the scriptures, etc. But they had
never crucified their selfish nature on the inward cross of self-denial, which destroys the sinful nature,
even the lure of sin. So they rationalized their mass tortures and murders were not sin; their selfish
beastly nature freely participated in the torture and execution of all those with a different opinion
of religion. They still sinned. But their sins were on a massive scale; our sins are easier to overlook
and excuse, being indifferent to our immorality, impurities, lusts, rages, envies, jealousies, etc. Servants
ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness.
Rom 6:16
Jesus said: If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with
two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It
is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye
causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have
two eyes and be thrown into hell. Mark 9:42-47. He doesn't want us to maim ourselves. He is
only illustrating how serious sin is. Jesus is desperately trying to tell us that to enter
the Kingdom and escape hell, sin is not allowed, period. But he has given us the way
of grace to crucify the sinful nature, removing the source of sin from our hearts, one defect at a
time. He knew false prophets with false gospels promising freedom to continue to sin would arise after
he left. Changes in our heart through the missing cross to purity can take away the desire of the hand,
foot, and eye to cause us to sin.
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to
your shame. 1 Cor 15:34
So kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members: sexual vice,
impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is idolatry (the
deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8
Repentance is necessary for salvation and the Kingdom. Going to Jesus,
to know him and be known by Him, and die to self through repentance to
purity on the missing inward cross is the only way. Until we put to death
the selfish, sinful nature, we are unruly and incapable of being subject to a
Lord or King. We make Him our Lord by putting to death our sinful
nature through the aid of the Spirit, thereby becoming governable and
subject to Him. For the world would have a Christ to excuse continuing to
live in their passions and pleasures, but those committed to truth would have
a Christ to change them to live pleasing to God, whatever the price.
If you want to skip the scriptures, invalidating instant salvation by saying
you believe or baptism, proving the cross necessary, click here to go to how
to crucify the sinful nature.
Jesus said, I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God.., because
that is why I was sent." And Paul tells us no immoral, impure, or greedy
person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:5.
So, Jesus came so that we can enter the Kingdom of God, (which arrives
with salvation's completion), first having been set free from sin, purified,
and made moral through repentance; no instant salvation, instead a process
of purification through the inward cross of self-denial. For the message of
the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are
being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18
In John 1:12, he says that as many as received him, to them gave the power

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to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.
Receiving him or just believing in His name gives us the power to become a
son of god, not to automatically be a son because we believe he was the son
of God. We have the power to become a son of God, but that power must
be exercised by us, not just assumed as already having occurred,
while continuing to live in our sinful nature. Those controlled by the
sinful nature cannot please God. Rom 8:8. The mind of the sinful nature
is hostile to God. Rom 8:7.
Even the demons called Jesus 'Son of the Most High God,' falling down at
his feet, begging him to have mercy. Luke 8:28,4:41,Mark 5:7,3:11,Mat 8:29.
So 'believing' that Jesus is the Son of God, or 'saying' he is the Son of God,
does not result in salvation. James said: You say you believe in one God, you
do well, even the demons believe and they tremble. James 2:19
The Bible even shows us examples where believing that Jesus is Lord and
being baptised does not result in salvation, or even the assurance of salvation:
Acts 8:13- 22
Simon the magician believed and was baptised. He tried to buy the power of laying on of hands.
Acts 8:13-18
Peter said to him, "Repent therefore of your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your
heart may be forgiven you. For I perceive that you are in the gall of bitterness, and the bond of
iniquity." Acts 8:22
Does this sound like a man saved by believing or baptism?
You can't be 'saved' and still be in bitterness and the bond of iniquity!
So believing and being baptized don't save you.
Peter said "perhaps" he could be forgiven, if he repented and prayed for
forgiveness.
But forgiven is not saved. He was forgiven before.
and:
And although the Corinthians had eaten the bread and wine, and had been baptized in water,
Paul told them they were "reprobates, [rejected, lost to sin] if Christ was not in them;"
and bid them "examine themselves."
and: (describing the early church in Jerusalem)
And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold
their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had
need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking
bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness
of heart, And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts
2:44-47. This clearly shows that being saved is not instantaneous with believing,
baptizing, and joining the church; no, they were described as should be
saved - as in the future, at the death of their selfish spirit on the cross.
Further evidence of being saved is not instant, but a process of carrying your
cross is: For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are
perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18
and Paul to the Phillipians:
continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, Phil 2:12
The work is carrying the inward cross of self-denial over time. To seek,
listen, hear, and obey - is part of the cross.
To say that Jesus is Lord does not save us. To be baptized does not save us. Nor does a
touch of the Spirit, (the call of God only), touted as the baptism of Holy Spirit, save us.
They do not guarantee that we will live forever or make us a son of God. Salvation is
not instant. Salvation is a process. To be reborn, we first have to die. You have to lose you life to save
it. The true baptism of the Holy Spirit, the only one needed, circumcises the heart, by plunging down
sin and iniquity, and puts off the body of death and sins of the flesh so that we are without sin; a
baptism into the death of Christ.
Note: In the beginning of the early Church, they (Peter particularly)
maintained Jewish circumcision, dietary law, and the Jewish custom of
Doctrine Letters water purification rites - known by Christians as John's water baptism. Peter
even forced these practices on the Gentiles, until: the Holy Spirit corrected
him on food, Paul corrected him, and the Apostles Council issued different
guideline for Gentiles. Since both Christ and John the Baptist spoke of a
John Gratton
better baptism, this baptism was later eliminated from Christian practice
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and the faith maintained one baptism, the baptism of fire or of the Holy
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Spirit.

John said: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but he that
comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he
Ambrose Rigge
shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mat 3:11
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Jesus said: For John truly baptized with water; but you shall be baptized
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with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Acts 1:5
Paul said: There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope
of your calling;
Thomas Ellwood One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:4-5
Autobiography Clearly, just as there are no multiple Lords, there are no multiple baptisms.
Various Poetry
Paul again said, I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
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And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
in Book of Poetry
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: 1 Cor 1:14-17.
So in Paul is not happy that he even water baptized the handful that he did.
Other Notables:
Thomas Aldam Clearly the one baptism needed is the fire of the Holy Ghost, which circumcises the heart, by plunging
William Ames down sin and iniquity, and puts off the body of death and sins of the flesh so that we are without sin; "..
Anne Camm baptized into Jesus Christ .. his death, buried with him by baptism into death, that they should walk in
newness of life." Although to be avoided as an unnecessary ritual, water baptism is not harmful,
Thomas Camm
unless you think it somehow makes you righteous, thereby being prevented from your seeking
William Caton
righteousness, which is Christ's top priority command " Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His
William Crouch righteousness."
William Edmundson
Elizabeth Hooton
Jesus said he would reject many, who thought themselves sure to be
William Leddra
Christians, but who stilled sinned. They had not made him their Lord
Elizabeth Stirredge in practice, who controls their lives in their actions and words; he doesn't
Thomas Upsher know them to be his subjects as their ruling Lord. They say Jesus is Lord
with their lips, but keep him far removed from their hearts to really be
their Lord and King. To make him Lord, he has to first cleanse us of our
Topical Index sinful nature that is unruly; until he cleanses us, we are a slave to sin,
(Away from me, you evildoers!), and incapable of being subject to him as
your Lord or King.

Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, who stand forth without repentance! (from
the Lord 10/25/06)

BEING SILENT -from A Guide to

Your covenant with death will be annulled,
True Peace
and your agreement with hell will not stand.
Isa 28:18

I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:20

Scripture Subject Groupings
The Mystery - Christ in You
Come to Me, Listen, Hear, and
Obey
Six Biblical Records of Jesus'
Return Already Having Taken
Place
Jesus' Commands
Fear of God
The Light References
Kingdom References
Repentance References
Jesus' Criticisms
Voice References
Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from
all iniquity,
and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:12-14
So he has to purify us, destroying our selfish, unruly, sinful nature; we have
to sit quietly so that he, the Light and the Word, can teach us about himself
and search our heart to show us our condition; lead us to repent, and
then cleanse us to be governable by him as our King and Lord. We don't
know Him, and he doesn't know us, until we have spent time together in
our closet. We, by ourselves, have to meet him, talk to him, watch for him,
and listen for him, accept him, and obey him. If any man hear my voice,
and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with
me. Rev. 3:20. Sitting quietly while thinking on his name is how we learn from
Him, get cleansed by Him, be led by Him, and come to know Him. 'Hearing
his voice' s does not come from reading the Bible. To hear someone, we have
to listen; to listen we have to stop talking, reading, and racing our mind.
Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27
Word of God References
(not being the Bible)
Holy Spirit References
The Purification Process, Sin,
and the Sin that Leads to Death
Holiness, Purity, Perfection
Requirements
Hundreds of Prophecies which
Came True in the Life of Jesus,
Proving Jesus' Divinity, Him
the Messiah, and the Validity
of the Bible
For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words [hear him speak,
not read the Bible] and does them, I will show you what he is like: He is like
a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a
foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke
against that house and could not shake or move it, because it had been
securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-8
He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to me, listen to My words
(him speaking, not the Bible), and do them.
If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and
we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:22-3
The above two teachings of Jesus are the core message of this web site:
1) Come to him, Listen to his spoken words to you, Do the words he gives
you - obey his commands by repentance.
2) If you obey what Jesus tells you to do, the Father then loves you;
the Father and Jesus in his glory come to you
and make their home with you; and the home they make is the Kingdom
of Heaven.
For unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without
sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28
So, seek, listen, obey. Seek, listen, obey. Persevere, and Christ will lead
you through repentance to union and the Kingdom of Heaven.
As we wait on him, watch for him, and listen to him - we abide in Him. To
abide in his living Light and Word is to find life.
He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him ! Heb.11:6
(Diligence is defined as continually attending to and striving to achieve a
goal; laboring; persevering.)
To be assured of salvation, we put to death the evil deeds prompted by
the body ; by daily seeking Christ's direction and following his commands
- repenting. Jesus said, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be
zealous therefore, and repent, Rev 3:19. For if you live according to the flesh
(the sinful nature), you will surely die. But if through the power of the
Spirit you are putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the deeds
prompted by the body, you shall live forever. Because those who are led by
the Spirit of God are sons of God. Rom 8:13-14
To be Spirit Led is the first assurance of salvation to come.
Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Matt 3:10
When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and
self-control. Gal 5:22-3
He has defined the acid test of a true believer, a true follower of Christ, to produce
fruit, and much fruit!
Perhaps more important, if you love God, this is the way to honor
and glorify the Father!
Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless
it abides in the vine,
neither can you, unless you abide in Me. John 15:4. I am the vine, you are
the branches.
He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; love, peace, joy,
patience, gentleness, kindness, etc. Gal 5:22-23)
for without Me you can do nothing. John 15:5. Works without God's Love in
us count for nothing. 1 Cor 13:3
To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith
expressing itself through love. Gal 5:6
Abiding is the key to success as a Christian. Studying the Bible only tells
us what we must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally,
about himself. His living words must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living
word, (not read the Bible).
To abide is "to remain." We go to him and quietly sit waiting on him; and
then we listen for him to speak to us and watch for what he shows us. When
the Light appears, we spend time in the Light. His living Word penetrates
us, separating spirit from soul, and the Light purifies us by the blood of
Jesus. As we repent, we are purified and receive more of His Spirit. As
we receive more of his Spirit, he abides or remains in us too. We become
the possessors of Christ, not just professors. This is part of the cross.

Whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple. Luke 14:33

Whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my
disciple. Luke 14:27

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps. 1 Pet 2:21

Those who belong to Christ Jesus

have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance

in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things
God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6

Jesus said: He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God
and he shall be my son." Rev. 21:7
And John said, "I have written unto you, young men because you are
strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the
wicked one." 1 John 2:14. So we must overcome sin and the devil.

For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and
He punishes even scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to
His heart and cherishes...You must submit to and endure [correction]
for discipline; God is dealing with you as with sons. For what son is there
whom his father does not [thus] train and correct and discipline.Now if you
are exempt from correction and left without discipline in which all [of
God's children] share, then you are illegitimate offspring and not true
sons. Hebrews12:6-8
To be scourged and disciplined by God the second assurance of salvation
to come.

In 1 Peter 1:5-7 he says: [you] "who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of
the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice,
though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have
come so that your faith - of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire - may
be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory, and honor when Jesus Christ
is revealed."
Salvation after grief and trials that is at the last moment of fleshly life vs. instant salvation?
Which do you claim?

Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. For
the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the
end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will
of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 1 Peter 4:16-19.
Scarcely be saved, means it happens after much suffering, barely escaping destruction!

But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet,
the hope of salvation. 1 Thes 5:8 Even those who already have the gift of love are to hope
for salvation! Does this sound like instant salvation? Remember love is last in the process of
Christian growth: make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness knowledge,
and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and
to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 2 Peter 1:6-7. Paul is saying
salvation comes after the gift of love which is the last step in Christian growth according to Peter.

From George Fox's Journal:

 You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with
him. Col 2:12

There must be "a coming into his death, a suffering with Christ;" and this is of
necessity to salvation; and not temporarily, but continually: there must be a "dying
daily."

The bad news is we have something else to do. We've been lied to. The more times a lie is told, the easier it
is to believe the lie. It started being told 2000 years ago in the early church; Jude wrote in 1:4, For
certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in [false christians
with false formulas for salvation] among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into
a license for immorality. It's very lulling to think that all we have to do is believe or get baptised. We
didn't know any better. But trust in God. He provides a way for those who want to please
him and find his will for them. For more on this read Fox's letter 306.

The good news is that we can hear, learn, be taught, and be cleansed by Jesus personally through the
Holy Spirit.
We can listen to the personalized teachings of Christ directly.
If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20

The other good news is that we don't have to physically die to be in UNION with God.
We don't have to physically die to be in heaven. The Kingdom of heaven is within you,
and the inward cross with cleansing to purity not only leads to being a Son of God, but
it leads to living forever with Christ as our King, being filled with Love, having
fellowship with Christ and the Father, and living in paradise while on earth with
everlasting peace and joy. Following Christ and bearing your cross, leads to everything
we dared to hope for and far more besides. You will show me the path of life; In Your presence
is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore. Psa 16:11

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32

He is extraordinarily patient toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn
to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all
filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Corinthians 7:1

For eye has not seen and ear has not heard of the things God has prepared for those
who wait on him.

Waiting is most of the cross.

The Missing Cross

Sitting quietly while thinking on his name is how we learn from Him,
get cleansed by Him, be led by Him, and come to know Him. Sitting, thinking
on the name of Jesus and waiting quietly on the Lord to speak to us, by
his living Word, or reveal to us, by his Light, what is in our heart is not
what our flesh wants to do. Instead of sitting quietly each day waiting on
the Lord, our flesh wants to sleep, or worry, or plan our day, or think
about something, or do something, - anything. Our mind will race
through many subjects in desperation to save itself, (he who loses his life,
finds it). The following is the missing cross:

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your first priority, is an act of repentance -

a cross to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance - a cross
to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but you repent
and do - a cross to your selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will
sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is
 a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive -
a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to
be, but if you repent - it is a cross to your will
(this is the place where you get changed, where your peace increases; in
the Light)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from
your selfishness and give- it is a cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way,
but if you repent and defer - it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

This is how to kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members:
sexual vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is
idolatry (the deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5.
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry
and witchcraft; hatred, discord,
jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.
I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and
self-control.
Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature
with its passions and desires. Gal 5:19-24
This is how to produce fruit: to crucify the sinful nature, to become a true Christian.
When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8

Jesus said, Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more;
whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him. Luke 8:18

Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10

Be silent, oh all flesh before the Lord. Zech 2:13

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence? (also on the side bar)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more. (also on the side bar)

The cross (denying yourself) must be taken up daily to succeed; the cross that is the power of God
to you, and the cross that is foolishness to others. The cross is the power of God. Belief in the
true gospel is the power of God. Belief in the true gospel, and the cross to realize the
promise, releases the power of God to purify you and make you one with Him. He will
change you gradually, but you will change. You will gradually become less angry, less addicted to the
things of the world, more settled, less emotional, more loving, more patient, kinder, gentler, and
happier. You will be thrilled to hear his voice. You will be thrilled to have him teach you about himself.
You will hear his soft voice of kindness encourage you. And as he shows you the condition of your heart,
you will be changed. We testify to this power that changes. See How to Benefit from the
Changing Power of God for more detail.

Here is what George Fox says about the missing cross in his letter #262.

The true hope, the true cross, the true faith,

the true worship, the true religion,
the true way, true image,
and true fellowship have been lost since the apostles' days,
among those called christians, who are out of the life.
And they that have lost the cross of Christ, which is the power of God,
in which is the true fellowship,
they have set up a wooden or a stone cross,
so false crosses, false christians.
They that have lost the true hope, which purifies, as he is pure,
they have set up a purgatory to cleanse them when they are dead.
And others cry up a body of sin and death on this side of the grave,
with their hypocrite's hope;
and they have lost the true ministry,
 and set up a false one, to preach up imperfection.
And people were imperfect in old Adam before Christ came;
for the law made nothing perfect;
but the true minister, Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27
does make perfect,
both in the Apostles' days and now.
'Christ in you, the hope of glory,' said the apostle, whom we preach,
'warning every man, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.' Col 1:27-8
So the perfection is in Christ Jesus; the imperfection is in old Adam.
So this is the true hope that purifies,
which everyone that has it purifies himself, even as he is pure.
And everyone that has not a possession of this hope,
pleads for impurity and imperfection,
and a body of sin and a body of death unto their grave,
and a purgatory when they are dead.
Such have a profession of the scriptures, like the Pharisees;
and the hypocrite's hope which shall perish.

John Richardson, an early Quaker minister visiting the United States, was inspired to say in a meeting of
the Protestant believers in Nantucket, but unconvinced of the Quaker faith:

"Except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." No, the natural and unregenerate man
cannot so much as see the heavenly and spiritual kingdom of Christ, which stands not only in power, but
also in righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Spirit; and to be born again is not to be done
imperceptibly, no more than the natural birth can be brought forth without trouble; and to pretend to
be in Christ and not to be new creatures, is preposterous; and to pretend to be new
creatures and yet not able to render any account how it was performed, is unreasonable;
for it could not be without our knowledge; for to be born again signifies to be quickened and raised into a
spiritual and new life, by which the body of the sins of the flesh is mortified and we come to live a self-
denying life. Those who are crucified with Christ are crucified to their sins, that as he died for sin, we
ought to die to sin. In that state we live not after the flesh, although we live, as the apostle said, in the
flesh; but the life which these live is through faith in the Son of God. And to supposedly have all this, and
much more wrought in us, and we know nothing of it, is unaccountable. . [Presumption, instead of
experiential reality, is make-believe Christianity].

This so affected his listeners, that the leader of the group, Mary Starbuck, stood and said in tears: "All
that ever we have been building, and all that ever we have done, is pulled down this day; and this is
the everlasting truth."

Some say we are advocating salvation by "works," implying Jesus's command to deny yourself and pick
up your cross daily is "works." Some even say repentance is "works," even though Jesus said, "Repent
or Perish." They want to argue that since grace is free, there is nothing to do. They are right, grace is
free; but grace is not salvation, grace brings salvation. James said, "faith without works is dead."
Paul further said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." In Titus 2:14, Paul
said grace results in a people zealous for good works. The workings of grace to teach us how to live are
a process; grace is not instant; the process produces purity and the fruit of love. The typical definition
of instant grace/salvation taught in the deficit sects, and the Apostle Paul's definition of grace,
are radically different. Grace is not salvation. Grace brings salvation. Grace is free, salvation is not.

Salvation requires everything, even your fleshly life.

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign
with him. 2 Timothy 2:11-12
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsake not all that he has, he cannot be my disciple.
Luke 14:33
He that finds his life shall lose it, and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

Per Paul, true grace is not salvation, but instead brings salvation as defined in his letter to Titus
as follows:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:11-14

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4
One who still sins might mistakenly argue they are redeemed from every lawless deed, but not that
grace has purified them!
So grace and salvation are not the same; grace only leads to salvation, attained by essential actions
of repentance.
Repentance is sorrow about your condition, changing your mind to be different, and then
conducting yourself differently.
Grace brings salvation by teaching us what to deny, leading us to repent. By grace, we are shown
our sin.
We repent by denying ungodliness and lusts, to live soberly, righteously, and godly in
this present world.
We seek righteousness to please Him and in expectation of the glorious appearing of God and Jesus -
the Kingdom of Heaven.
So by grace we see a problem in our heart. We repent. Then by grace, we get strength to be different -
the cleansing of our heart.
By this process, we are redeemed from all iniquity and purified by Jesus to become
enthusiastic workers of good.
Grace is unmerited and free, salvation is not free. Salvation's price is sacrifice of self, the death of
your sinful nature;
and our death is not evidence of being worthy of God's gifts - no, just the shame of being so unworthy.
See True Grace vs. False Grace for more.

It is by grace, and grace only through our faith in Jesus Christ that we attain salvation; but salvation,
means to become purified and die to the flesh and live to Christ - not by make-believe, but in reality.
When you go to the cross in the Light, and He shows you what is in your heart; then you will know
what grace really is: that only God can change you - you are helpless in your deplorable state- only
the unmerited favor of God can rid you of your condition. You must share his "death" and share
his resurrection; Fox clarifies to include suffering, death, burial, and resurrection. The cross is
the beginning. The cross is not trying to be saved by "works" alone; it is only evidence of your faith
by obedience; and to those who oppose the cross, they are headed for destruction, for their
god is their belly, [their lusts and affections for the world], and whose glory is in their shame—
who set their mind on earthly things, [the love of the world].

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found
thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and
hold fast, and repent. Rev. 3:2-3. Jesus expects works, perfect works! Works
are evidence of your faith.

James said: You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
James 2:24

Paul said: works energized by faith is the only thing that counts. Gal 5:6
I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works
befitting repentance. Acts 26:20

Don't stop until you know he controls you totally; until you have sat down in Jesus Christ in Heaven.
He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it. If you
loose your fleshly life on the cross, you will save your spiritual life in Him. This is His will for you,
and following his example to the death of flesh yields an everlasting happiness that is full of peace, love,
and joy. Your cross is nothing compared to his; his burden for you is light, his yoke for you is
easy, so cast all your worries and fears on God - Trust the Wonderful God who created you to give you
his greatest gift - himself, providing you seek him and obey his commands.

Christ's return, entering the Kingdom, and the completion of

salvation are simultaneous, when he is revealed within you. Even so it is
that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and
once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to
full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him. Heb 9:28.
Do you really think this is a particular generation? If so, how could God be so unfair to all the
other generations? Since every eye is supposed to witness the second appearance of Christ, then if
Christ returns to the earth in a physical body, how could every man see this physical occurrence?
The common saying in Christendom today is: keep looking up. But to see the return of Christ, you
must keep looking within, watching, watching, watching. For that which is known about God is
evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:19. The mystery of which was hidden for ages and generations, but is now revealed to His
holy people (the saints), to whom God was pleased to make known how great for the Gentiles are the
riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ within and among you, the Hope of glory. Col 1:26-27

The Holy Way.. the simple ones and fools, shall not err in it and lose their
way. Isa 35:8

From A Guide to True Peace

 If any other way but bearing the cross, and dying to his own will, could have redeemed
man from a fallen and corrupt state, Jesus would have taught it, and established it by his
example. But of all that desire to follow him, he has required the bearing of the cross; and
without exception has said to all; "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself,
take up his cross, and follow me." Why then do you fear to take up the cross, which will
direct you to the path which leads to the kingdom of God?

From the cross are derived heavenly meekness, true fortitude, the joys of the spirit, the conquest of self,
the perfection of holiness! There is no redemption, no hope of the continuation of the divine life in us,
but by our taking up the cross to our carnal appetites and inclinations: for all consists in the death of
self, and there is no means to obtain life and peace, but by thus dying to corruption.

Why do you seek any other path to glory, but that in which you are called to follow the "Captain of your
Salvation?" His life was a continual cross, and do you desire a perpetuity of repose and joy? The more
perfectly you die to yourselves, the more truly will you begin to live to God; if you would then enjoy true
peace here, and obtain hereafter the unfading crown of glory, it is necessary that in every place, and in
all events, you should bear the cross willingly. To suffer, therefore, is your portion; and to suffer
patiently, and willingly, is the great testimony of your love and allegiance to your Lord.

The patient enduring of the cross, and the death of self upon it, are the indispensable duty of fallen man;
and it is thus only he can be delivered from his darkness, corruption and misery, and be restored to the
possession of life, light, and peace.

You can memorize the entire Bible, but what he really wants is for you seek Him of whom the
scriptures testify. The Bible is good to maintain and increase hope, but salvation is not found by reading
or searching the scriptures; as Christ said to the Pharisees, "you search the scriptures in hope of
finding eternal life, but you will not come to me that you might have life." John 5:39-40 The Bible
is good for building hope, but not for finding Him; you must go to Him. He said, come and learn of
me, for I am meek and lowly. Come means to Him, not read the Bible, not to a deficit sect's meeting, not
to Bible study - to Him!

So, go to Him, the living Word and Spirit of Life. And when going to Him while believing in his
name with hope of purity you have the power to change.It is his name that is the power to get
you started. Believing that his name is the power to change you is the power of the gospel; change that
takes place by you taking up your cross daily; the cross is the power of god - the dying of self, the
denial of self, the repenting of self, the death of sin. We can testify to this power. When I sit quietly, and
I think of the name Jesus; I can feel the power. We both can testify to the power of God to purify. You
may not feel this at first, but in time you will too. And when you commit to change by daily seeking him
to hear his commands and understandings, (you have to be quiet to hear his soft voice), while obeying
what you know to be right, you have made him your Lord; you will be on the path and under his
protection as long as you keep seeking. If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in
to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20. He will tell you things about himself. He will
clear up your misunderstandings. He will give you tons of encouragement. He will always forgive
your failures. He will show you things about yourself. He will show you from what to repent. You will
be thrilled to be in communication with God; you will be full of thanksgiving and praise. Your faith
will grow by leaps and bounds because, "Faith comes by hearing the Word of God," Jesus himself.
You will have more love for others. You are on the narrow way that leads to life, which few will find.
See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more.

from George Fox's Letters:

51. - To Friends, concerning the cross of Christ,

the power of God,
that leads out of the world,
to the world that is without end.

The cross is to the carnal part, which is the ground of images,

the ground of the seducers, and the ground of the false prophet and antichrist;
the cross is to that ground, to the root and life of it.
This being minded, which is pure and eternal,
it makes a separation from all other lovers, and brings to God,
and the ground of evil thoughts comes to be opened,
and the cross is to that ground;
which cross overturns the world in the heart.
Which cross must be taken up by all who follow Jesus Christ
out of the world which has an end, into the world which is without end;
and all the evil things of the world must be denied.
For 'who loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him';
but where the world is standing, the cross is not lived in.
But dwelling in the cross to the world,
here the love of God is shed abroad in the heart,
and the way is opened into the inheritance which fades not away;
where nothing shall enter which is defiled.
For God is not seen but in the eternal light where all pure wisdom comes.
This treasure is not seen but with the spiritual eye;
nor received but with the pure in heart,
and by those who dwell and abide in the eternal light.
But the carnal heart may get the words from them who had received the wisdom,
who dwelt in the fear of the Lord;
but they who live without the fear, may get their words,
and yet know not wisdom's gate, where those words proceeded, having the old bottle.
Watch all, therefore, and see what you possess.
For all who gave forth the Holy Scripture, who dwelt in the fear of God,
they possessed the life which those words proceeded from;
and the secrets of the Lord were with them.
Therefore, all in your measure, which is of God, wait,
that it may guide your minds up to God,
and follow it, and not your evil desires,
nor the lust of the world; for the fear of the Lord will keep your hearts clean,
and the true wisdom will be with you in the pure heart.
And everyone that has this light, which Christ has enlightened them withal,
the deeds that are evil, you know to be so by the light;
and this light will be their condemnation, you know it.
And all who witness this light, and love it, their eye is in their head,
which is Christ, if they be ten thousands.

George Fox

Read the Bible for Hope - the hopeful parts, like John and the Psalms

And to keep your hopes high while seeking, keep reading the Bible and George Fox's writings. Now,
when you read the Bible, you'll see not just the old quoted phrases of the false gospels, but those
phrases that really speak to being righteous, perfect, holy, pure, and sinless; and you will know what
you have to do to please God. You can rejoice in the true hope and in your calling.

Matthew defines the requirements; be perfect, turn the other cheek, love you enemies, etc.
John defines the reward: Make them one with us; I want them with me to see my glory; Make them
holy; give them my love, etc.
1 John defines the test: Whoever has been born of God does not sin; Whoever sins has neither seen
Him nor known Him, etc.

The Real Gospel?

It is written by Paul in Galatians,1:9, "cursed is anyone who brings you a different gospel;" a gospel
and Jesus different from the gospel he preached. The gospel within this site argues for purity and
sinless state. Does not the gospel you have heard excuse sin, immorality, impurity, and ungodliness?
Which gospel seems more godly? Which gospel seems like the narrow way of which few will find?
Which gospel seems like the broad way where the many go, for it is easy? Can you see Christ arguing for
sin, imperfection, impurity, and unholiness? So which gospel is the true one; the one promising
freedom from sin, or the one that offers freedom to sin without guilt, but which says that you have to
carry your "sin to the grave?" Isn't this just making grace a license to sin? Isn't the gospel of "freedom
to sin" robbing you of the chance for a much better life on earth, as well as after you die? Don't be cheated
of life's greatest opportunity. If you still have doubts, read the first section of George Fox's Journal,
and then remember that thousands of early Quakers came into the fullness of Christ (perfection,
purity, sinless, holiness, the resurrected Christ in them) as described in the rest of the Journal. It can
be done!

Walk the Line

So when you have seized the true hope, the challenge is to "walk the line" between:

1) presumption (I have made it already, I have everything there is to get), or

2) despair (I am so full of sin, I am beyond hope, I can't get there).

Regarding presumption
There is little He can do for you if you think you are already righteous. As Jesus said, "I came not to
call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32. (Remember, when Jesus said this, there
was not a single other person in all of Israel who was righteous, only the hypocrites, who thought
they were righteous). Recall the prayer of the pharisee vs. the prayer of the publican;
which do you choose? To quote the section in Luke 18:9-14:

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told
this parable: "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The
Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself; 'God I thank you that I am not like all other men - robbers,
evil doers, adulterers - or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'

But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and
said, 'God have mercy on me a sinner.'

I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts
himself, will be humbled, and everyone who humbles himself will be exalted."

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled. Mat. 5:6. Who can
say they are filled until they are in His arms, and hear him say, "Well done, good and
faithful servant?" Matt 25:23

Regarding Despair
First of all, you can't purify yourself; Christ is the one who removes the sin. And no one is too difficult
for Him. All you do is sit there seeking, be sorry for what he shows you, and follow his commands.
Second, there is no one so full of sin that he cannot repair them; being your creator, he understands
you beyond even yourself. As your creator, he can shape you any way he pleases. And he is pleased to
shape you as himself by removing your problems - the more removed, the greater the glory to Him.
For when you are restored, it is to His glory; and to both of your joys; and when you bring glory to him,
he brings glory to the Father.

And, never, never, believe that your mistakes along the way disqualify you from further seeking - only
death is final. Forgiveness is not a "one time occurrence." Until you have become so pure that you
have looked him in the face and then returned to sin, as long as you are really sorry for any mistakes
and sincerely apologize to Him, requesting his forgiveness and asking him to help you avoid making
the same mistakes again, he will still be there as your advocate, friend, helper, and source of strength to
keep on seeking. We speak from experience. Our mistakes have been colossal; but each time he has
forgiven us, and eventually rewarded us with more of Him and less of us as proof. We can testify to
the above process working, thanks be and glory to Jesus Christ and the Father.

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people.
Jer 7:23
(not what someone reads out of the Bible, but from the Living Word, hear his voice- speaking to
you from heaven.)

You have to keep his personal commands, spoken to you, for Him to come to you. Jesus
said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: (the personal words that you hear from his
lips, not the dead letter words of the Bible) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him." He making his abode in us and us being His and him being
OUR GOD, Rev. 21:3. He wants you to not only "call" him Lord with you lips, but to "make" him Lord
of your life - with his spirit, (instead of your selfish spirit of Satan), controlling your words and actions;
so that you can say in truth that he is the Lord whom you obey and follow: doing your Father's will,
not yours.

Jesus said: He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be my son." Rev. 21:7

What About the Thief on the Cross?

Many people justify all instant salvations on the basis of the Thief on the Cross, next to Jesus as he
was crucified, taking comfort in Jesus saying to him, "Today you will be with me in paradise."

Of course the thief's circumstances were exceptional. Consider these:

1) he was watching another convicted criminal (Jesus) next to him being crucified.
2) this man, [Jesus] who claimed a special relationship with God, did nothing to prevent his crucifixion.
3) the criminal himself was in unimaginable agony from the pain of his own crucifixion.

and, still his faith was strong enough to rebuke another criminal, who was also being crucified and
hurled insults at Jesus: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!" This [other] criminal replied:
"Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we
 are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."Then he said, "Jesus,
remember me when you come into your kingdom."

I would submit this man's faith was so strong, still active in excruciating pain, still active watching the
man who claimed to be the son of God being horribly executed; that such faith, being beyond what I
can claim to be able to show similarly, was rewarded for it being extraordinary and exceptional.
However, like all that are not purified in this life, he would have to leave paradise for a time to be purified
in Hell; before coming back to paradise to live in the outer court, without measure, the court of
the uncircumcised-in-heart, spiritual gentiles.

So for anyone to claim this criminal's superhuman example as the basis for their entering the Kingdom
of God, escaping Hell, because they "believe in Jesus," fails to consider the magnitude of the criminal's
faith, which almost all would be hard pressed to duplicate.

As I was told by the Voice of the Lord: "If you had been with me on the night I
was arrested, you would not have believed I was the Holy One of Israel."

Simple Starting Rules to Follow

Beyond your daily seeking through quietly listening for his voice, here are the starting rules that if
you follow, you will do well.

● This was John the Baptist's simple message of repentance, to get ready for Jesus and the Kingdom:
Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct. Matt 3:2
Share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain. Luke 3:10-14
● Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. (Jesus' #1)
Set aside at least one hour for quiet time every day.
● Above all, don't swear (James #1; as in oaths, like "I swear to tell the truth...."),
● Above all, love each other deeply, for love covers a multitude of sins (Peter's #1),
● Flee from sexual immorality, (in Acts 15:28 from the Apostles' Council to the beginning Gentiles) .
All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 1
Cor 6:18
● Whatever commands you receive in meditation, record them, review them, and keep repenting.
● Prize your time and the Love of God to you. (Fox's #1)
● If you make mistakes, ask forgiveness plus help, and resolve to do better.
● Don't worry, he loves you, doubt it not! (from him in meditation)
● And don't talk about God or Christ unless he tells you to. Wait until your words are from the Spirit.
● Enjoy the good things of this life with thanks and praise to our to great and wonderful God.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.

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The Fallacy of Taking Four Verses

Out of Context with the Thousands of Others
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16

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Fallacy 1 - Whoever believes in Him should not Perish, but have eternal life.
-Taken out of context with adjacent verses.

This is the most popularly quoted verse in the Bible, BUT it is quoted out of context without the
companion verses that qualify its meaning to be totally the opposite of how people interpret it, when
looked at alone. Many call this verse "an entire Bible in itself." Unfortunately they are wrong.

First let's examine the subject verses: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Notice the word should, meaning probable or likely. Now this word "should" is from the King James
and New King James. The other translations say "shall," which is a huge difference in meaning; one that
I don't think you want to bet your eternal welfare on. For further understanding, look at the verses in
Acts, describing how new members were added by the Lord to the early church in
Jerusalem, headed by Peter, James, John, etc.

And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods,
and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the
temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of
heart, And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts 2:44-47.

The New International Version reads: And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being
saved. Acts 2:47
The Amplified Bible reads: and the Lord kept adding daily those who were being saved. Acts 2:47

This clearly shows that being saved is not instantaneous with believing, baptizing, and joining the
church; no, they were described as should be saved - as in the future, at the death of their selfish spirit
on the cross. Further evidence of being saved is not instant, but a process of carrying your cross is: For
the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is
the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

The New King James reads: the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being
saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18
The Amplified Bible reads: the cross is sheer absurdity and folly to those who are perishing and on their
way to perdition but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

Paul in his letter to the Phillipians further shows that salvation is not just believing.
continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, Phil 2:12
The work is carrying the inward cross of self-denial over time. To seek, listen, hear, and obey - is part of
the cross.

If you really believe Jesus was the Son of God, and that God raised him from the dead, then if someone
was around to show you how to become pleasing to God, to receive his blessing, to be purified, righteous,
to enjoy his company and guidance - then you would probably do whatever is necessary to obtain
these blessings. By belief, you should begin the effort of being saved.

Let's look further at all the verses after this famous verse, which also totally change the traditional,
but erroneous interpretation:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the
world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he
that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten
Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness
rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that does evil hates the light,
neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that does truth
comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Everything fits with the common interpretation, out of context, until verses 20 and 21 are included:

Verse 20: For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his
deeds should be reproved.
Whoever still sins hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest (for fear that) his deeds be reproved,
(judged).
Because his deeds were evil, he is afraid to come into the light for them to be judged.

Verse 21: King James - But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made
manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Verse 21: Amplified - But he who practices truth - who does what is right- comes out into the
Light; so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--wrought with God -
divinely prompted, done with God's help, in dependence upon Him.
A true believer does truth, or practices truth - does what is right. (He is finished with sin, doing what is
wrong.) A believer comes out into the light, (without fear) to show that his deeds ( or works) have been:
wrought in God; or divinely prompted, done with God's help, in dependence upon God.

Now ask yourself: How many works, or deeds, have I done that have been wrought, or prompted by God
and with his help? How many works have I done that God has specifically told me to do, and then helped
me to do them? - Not how many works have you done, hoping to please God. The first works for
all are repentance - with God prompting or showing you what to repent from, and then you
through sorrow, resolving to do do better - repentance.

Paul : I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Acts 26:20
Jesus said, unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3. Repentance requires effort on your part.
And, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19
Jesus further said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. Mat 11:29
Jesus said, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily,
and follow me. Luke 9:23
Jesus said, I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:2-3. He wants perfect
works, energized by faith.
Hear! Jesus said: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and
shall not be able. Luke 13:24
The gospel of grace would have you believe striving is unnecessary, yet Jesus ordered us to strive, (to
exert much effort or energy).
Paul again: They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable,
and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Titus 1:16

Fallacy 2. Not by Works, by Grace - There Is No work Necessary to Go

to Heaven.

Look at the verses above and see how the false prophets take this next verse out of context and create a
false salvation: Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works,
but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 2
Tim 1:9.

This verse is used to rationalize doing nothing. Not by works, by grace - is the rallying cry of those,
who hope nothing is required of them, more than saying they believe in Jesus. Of course we are not saved
by our own efforts. God makes the changes in us, but only if we are obedient to his commands.

If you really believe, you will seek God, the whole purpose of life; you will seek his
Kingdom, within you and around you, and his righteousness as your highest priority in life. In this
seeking process, you will first hear from within the living Word of God, Christ instruct you and chastise
you. Later the Light of God in every man, Christ, will expose the sins your heart; and if you believe that
he who shows you your sin is Christ, loving Christ, you will acknowledge your sin and you will be sorry -
you will repent. With sincere repentance, Christ will then remove the desire to sin from your heart, (a
work prompted by God and assisted by God's grace). This repentance and resulting cleansing is
the purification process, described in 1 John, (click to read). This is a repetitive process, until your heart
has been cleansed of all sin, until you are purified. Thus he can now make you perfect in every good work
to do his will, Heb 13:11; a forever cleansing and perfection with resulting union that is now available to
all who go to him for change. This is the operation of true grace, which is not salvation - instead,
grace brings salvation by teaching us to deny ungodliness and lusts in life, (repentance), how to live a
godly life in this present world, and purifying us over time, - as described by Paul in Titus 2:11-14:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity,
and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:11-14

Your faith in Jesus and God's grace are to result in good works prompted faith by and energized by the
grace of God.
James said, "faith without works is dead." James 2:17
James further said, " You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." James 2:24
Paul said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12
Again Paul said, the purpose of grace, results in a people zealous for good works. Titus 2:14
Peter said: whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. Acts 10:35
Paul again: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:20
Paul again: Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded,
nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate. 1
Tim 6:17-18

After you are purified, made pure in heart, you will be prompted by God to do further works to his
glory, according to his will. You will be directed to a virtuous life, and you will have a zeal for good works.

But he who practices truth - who does what is right- comes out into the Light; so that
his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--wrought with God - divinely
prompted, done with God's help, in dependence upon Him. John 3:21

Now when the Light appears in final judgment, you will have no fear of evil works being exposed;
instead you will come out into the Light, knowing that your deeds will be shown to have been wrought
by, or produced by, or prompted and assisted by God.

For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds
should be reproved. John 3:20

But, if you have not been purified in this life before you die, when the Light, Christ appears to judge you,
you will shrink back in fear, knowing that you have practiced evil in your life, with fear of the
consequences to shortly come - even if you think you are a Christian and call him Lord.

So until you have been changed by grace, listening to His words spoken to you, obeying them, and
then watching His light, gently never upbraiding, show you the secrets of your heart, [until having done
this] you will fear the light at judgment and will run from the light into darkness.

Fallacy 3. if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in
your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
- ignoring the meaning of confess and believe in you heart, plus taking it out
of context.

Roman 10:9-10-that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God
has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness,
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

● To confess, is to acknowledge that Jesus is your Lord, who controls your words and deeds - this
only happens after death of self.
● To believe in your heart God resurrected Him, is to have received this in your heart by God's revelation
- not by reading or hearing about it; it must be revelation - not mental assent.
● To believe unto righteousness is to have become righteous, through death of the selfish spirit on the
 cross, thus receiving Christ's controlling spirit to make you righteous.
● You don't become righteous by saying that Jesus is Lord. You only become righteous when he controls
your words and deeds; then and only then, can your truthfully say Jesus is your Lord, controlling
your obedience to his commands.
● You only experience salvation after death of your selfish spirit of flesh on the cross, and receipt of
sufficient spirit of Christ to control your every word and deed. Then you confess him to be Lord.
● Salvation is not saying Jesus is Lord or pointing to scripture - it is to be experienced. Therefore, if anyone
is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Even Adolph Hitler was a believer; he said Jesus was his Lord and Savior. Surely you don't think he
was saved? The thousands of Catholic priests who slowly tortured and brutally murdered 9,000,000
people for being witches during the Middle Ages were believers and said Jesus was Lord too. All
were baptized, took communion, prayed frequently, confessed Jesus as Lord, read the scriptures, etc.
But they had never crucified their selfish nature on the inward cross of self-denial, which destroys the
sinful nature, even the lure of sin. So they rationalized their mass tortures and murders were not sin;
their selfish beastly nature freely participated in the torture and execution of all those with a
different opinion of religion. They still sinned. But their sins were on a massive scale; our sins are
easier to overlook and excuse, being indifferent to our immorality, impurities, lusts, rages, envies,
jealousies, etc. Servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of
obedience unto righteousness. Rom 6:16

Lets look several of the other verses which further directly conflict with the believing verses taken out
of context:
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,
Only those who do the will of the Father enter the Kingdom of heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
'Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Mat 7:21-23
He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
And this is the will of Him that sent me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes on him, may
have everlasting life, John 6:40.
(Unless you are purified, you will never see God. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Mat 5:8
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
(like him is to be holy, pure, perfect - only those like him, will see Him.)
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3

Without holiness, no one will see the Lord. Heb 12:14

whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. John 11:26 (To live in him requires you to crucify
your sinful nature on the cross.)
The acts of the sinful nature include sexual immorality, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, [greed],
sorcery, hatred,
contentions, jealousies, rage, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders,
drunkenness, revelries, etc.
...those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19-21
You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those
who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6

Fallacy 4 - no one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit - quoted
out of context

Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed,
and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12:3

The false prophets tell you that anyone who says the words "Jesus is Lord" is controlled by the Holy Spirit.
But Jesus contradicts that interpretation, saying: But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do
the things which I say? Luke 6:46
and: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven... Depart from me you who practice lawlessness. Mat 7:21-22

So, what is the true meaning of: no one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit?
It means, no one can say that Jesus is their Lord, controlling their words and deeds as Lord and
Master, without the Holy Spirit.
Unless he controls your words and deeds, he is not your Lord. Unless you obey him, he is not
your Lord.
If Jesus is your Lord, then you obey him; you seek his guidance, you seek his teachings, you seek
his commands to you,
you come to him, you listen to him, and then you faithfully obey him.
Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be My people.
And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well with you. Jer 3:23
Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus his Lord and Savior, but that certainly did nothing for him.

Saying the words, Jesus is Lord, is no indication of you being controlled by the Holy Spirit, or of
your salvation.
Jesus said, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. Mark 7:6

Further on the John 3:16, quoted out of context with the verses before it.

Examine the verse, just before the 'whoever believes' verse:

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be
lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[a] have eternal life. 16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should
not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Verse 14 refers to the following scripture of the Israelites' journey through the wilderness, seeking
the promise land; as below:

And the people spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die
in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.”
6 So the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of
Israel died.
7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD
and against you; pray to the LORD that He take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the
people.
8 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone
who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.”
9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone,
when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived. Numbers 21:5-9.

While journeying to the promise land, they grumbled, they sinned. So the Lord sent fiery serpents
among them. The people asked Moses to pray for the Lord to take them away. But that is not what the
Lord did. He told Moses to prepare a fiery serpent and put it on a pole, so that everyone who was
bitten could look at it, but not die. Understand, the serpents were not taken away; they were still
being bitten as they walked through the wilderness, seeking the promise land, their physical salvation.
They were bitten, but they didn't die; as long as they continued to look at the bronze serpent on the pole.

So, as we are seeking the promise land, (the Kingdom of Heaven that is within us and around us, our
first priority in life), we will continue to sin, until pure. Part of this journey is supernatural suffering. We
are afflicted with fiery trials and tribulations. When these afflictions occur, our selfish sinful nature will
even get angry and complain. Like the Israelites we will believe we have been unjustly punished with
water of affliction and the bread of adversity, which we loathe; so we will sin against God. We will
be tempted to quit; to give up our journey. But if we keep our spiritual eye on the example of suffering
by Jesus on the cross, and his payment made for our sins, we will travel on and not spiritually die in
the desert. And while seeking, our journey through this spiritual desert is not only dry and famishing, but
it includes suffering, for we must participate in His sufferings to arrive at the Kingdom of Heaven, the end
of our journey. This is the cross of Christ, at which we must keep looking, to be aware of in our
sufferings and ameliorate them. So, while sinning and suffering in the desert, if
we believe in the name of Jesus, the Son of God, who died for us on the
cross, we will not perish, but will go on to death of the fleshly self, union
with God, and entrance in to the Kingdom of Heaven, with everlasting life
as a Son of God.

Do not think it strange the fiery trial you are undergoing,

but rejoice that you are participating in the sufferings of Christ,
so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.
1 Peter 4:12-13

Paul was establishing and strengthening the souls and the hearts of the disciples,
urging and warning and encouraging them to stand firm in the faith,
and that it is through many hardships and tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.
Acts 14:22-23

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps
1 Pet 2:21
 For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him.
2 Tim 2:11-12

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body,

arm yourselves also with the same attitude,
because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin.
As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil
human desires,
but rather for the will of God.
1 Pet 4:1-2

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have

crucified the sinful nature,
with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:24

Are you really in Christ?

Jesus told us that many people who are convinced they

are Christians, who called him Lord, who even did miracles in
his name, would be rejected by him at judgment - because they
still practiced evil - they still sinned - and therefore were still slaves
of sin. They were obviously not in his name, even though they
said they were acting in his name. He was obviously not yet
their Lord of thought, word, and deed - even though they called
him Lord.

Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord,

have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in
Your name,
and done many wonders in Your name?’
And then I will declare to them,
‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Mat 7:22-23

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin

is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

Jesus replied,"I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
John 8:34

To be in Christ is explained by Paul. Therefore, if anyone is in

Christ,he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold,
all things have become new. 2 Cor 5:17. This is not to imagine yourself
a new creature; this is to experience the death of the old and the
birth of the new. And death of the old is only through the cross
of Christ, sharing in the suffering of Christ, sharing in the death
of Christ, sharing in the burial of Christ, sharing in the
resurrection of Christ - that is NEW - all else is presumption
and imagination, or make-believe Christianity.

For more on suffering, as a necessary part of the Christian journey

to salvation, click here. For the suffering of the cross is necessary
to be purged of the doings (practices) of the flesh..: they
are immorality, impurity, indecency, idolatry, sorcery, enmity,
strife, jealousy, anger (ill temper), selfishness,
divisions (dissensions), party spirit (factions, sects with
peculiar opinions, heresies), envy, drunkenness, carousing, and
the like. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, that
those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19-
and You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..
21.

has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no

one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things
God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6

Someone who truly believes seeks and repents, to eventually

become pure and produce the fruit of the spirit, which is love,
joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper,
forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence),
faithfulness, Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control. Gal 5:22-23

Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance. Matt 3:8

When you bear (produce) much fruit,

My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine.
John 15:8

If we really believe in Jesus, we will keep seeking him until we

are pure. The cross of Christ is where we crucify our lusts
and affections.

Everyone who has this hope in him

purifies himself, just as he is pure.
1 John 3:2-3

And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be
my disciple.
Luke 14:27

This web site is to destroy the false hope, created by taking a subset
of scriptures such as John 3:16 alone, while ignoring the whole;
and to show you the true hope. When you can grasp and believe
this true hope, the power of God to change you is released. The
name of Jesus, faith in the true gospel, and the cross of Christ are
the power of God to make you an entirely new creature.
Everything else is a make-believe Christianity, falsely based
on presumption. Christendom has discarded the cross of
Christ, thereby missing the promise of God. Taking a single verse,
or even a subset of scriptures, while ignoring the whole of
the scriptures, is a disastrous error - universal in
Christendom; creating hypocrites - those who talk about
being religious while walking in sin. This attempts to make the
pearl of great price into a no cost sinner's prayer and getting wet.
To save your soul, you must loose your fleshly life, for you
cannot please God in the flesh.

For more information on the Light, see the Mystery of the Light.
For more information on producing fruit, see The Evidence of a
True Follower, Producing Fruit.
For information on how to receive the convicting, changing power
of God, see How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God.
To read about people who have become pure and under the control
of God, see George Fox, William Penn, George Whitehead,
James Parnell, Francis Howgill, Edward Burrough,
William Dewsbury, Isaac Penington, Margaret Fox, and Miguel
de Molinos.
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A True Follower Shows Fruit

John 15:8

Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.

Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance. Matt 3:8

When you bear (produce) much fruit,

My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine.
John 15:8

Every tree that does not bear good fruit

is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Mat 7:19

Are you a true follower of Christ? It is not enough to just say you believe in Jesus. If you believe in
Jesus, then you believe enough to do what he commanded: his first and principal command throughout
his ministry being, "Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is near;" and the evidence of repentance is
to bring forth fruit. Mat 3:8

When George Fox was approached by people pleading that they were saved because they believed in
Jesus, his response was: where is the evidence of your belief?

Jesus himself said: The evidence of belief of a true follower is to produce much fruit, John 15:8,
The fruit of the Spirit is love, peace, joy, self-control, kindness, faith, goodness, and gentleness.
This involves ridding yourself of the sinful nature which includes sexual immorality, impurity
and debauchery;
greed, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy;
drunkenness, orgies, and the like.
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

So, you must crucify your sinful nature to produce fruit.

Jesus said: If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Luke 9:23
So, a true follower is one who has crucified their sinful nature and produced fruit.

Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior. But he had no fruit. He was not a
true follower. The Roman Catholic priests that killed 9,000,000 people for witchcraft in the Middle
Ages said they were believers; they were baptized, prayed every day, took communion, and read
the scriptures frequently. They were very holy murderers, because they had no fruit - only BIG thorns;
they were not true followers.

If we are not seeking to produce fruit, our belief and faith is dead. As James said, faith without works
is dead.
Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34.
If you are a slave to sin, sin is your master; and Jesus can't be your Lord because you cannot serve
two masters.
The principal work of a believer is to seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, which is in
you and around you,
as evidenced by fruit - the fruit of the Spirit - love, peace, joy, goodness, etc.
It is never too late to start producing the fruit of righteousness, making Jesus your true Lord and Master.

Jesus said: The Word of God [the words you hear Jesus speak to you, not the Bible] is the seed. And
that [seed] which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked
with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. But that on
the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, [the Living
Word, Christ, speaking to you, not the Bible] keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:14-
15. People have heard him speak to them, but were distracted from preserving in further listening by
the cares, riches, and pleasures of this life; therefore not producing fruit unto righteousness.
But some did bring forth fruit to perfection with patience.

The fruit of righteousness will be peace; the effect of righteousness will be quietness
and confidence forever. Isaiah 32:17

He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes
so that it will be even more fruitful. John 15:1-3. (God scourges and disciplines us before we become sons.
Heb 12:6-8)

Jesus said: But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. "Watch
out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles?
Mat 7:14-16. (If your teacher and preacher doesn't have this love, gentleness, self-control, kindness,
peace, fidelity, goodness, and joy, you are being misled into the ditch and into captivity by a false
prophet; this same test can be applied to false christians.)

Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad
fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Matthew 7:17-18. Whosoever is born of God does not commit
sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Mat 7:19

Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Mat 7:20

Paul said: No immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and
of God. Eph 5:5. The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; greed; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and
envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will
not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no
law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions
and desires. Gal 5:19-24

For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of
the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Eph
5:8-10

Jesus said: When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8

So How do we produce fruit? Jesus said: Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. Mat 3:7-9

and

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine,
neither can you, unless you abide in Me. John 15:4. I am the vine, you are the branches.
He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit;(John 15:4-5) love, peace, joy, patience,
kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.) If anyone does not abide in Me, he
is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the
fire, and they are burned.

Works without God's Love in us count for nothing.

To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith expressing itself
through love. Gal 5:6
Abiding is the key to success as a Christian. Studying the Bible only tells us what we must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words
must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living word, (not read
the Bible).
To abide is "to remain." We go to him and quietly sit waiting on him; and then we listen for him to speak
to us and watch for what he shows us. When the Light appears, we spend time in the Light. His living
Word penetrates us, separating spirit from soul, and the Light purifies us by the blood of Jesus. As
we repent, we are changed and receive more of His Spirit. As we receive more of his Spirit, he abides
or remains in us too. We become the possessors of Christ, not just professors.

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence? (also on the side bar)

How do we repent?

To start, John the Baptist said:

Think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct. Mat 3:2
Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance. Mat 3:8
He who has two undergarments, let him share with him who has none; and he who has food, let him
do it the same way.
[Give to the poor, share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.]
Exact and collect no more than the fixed amount appointed you. [Be honest in all your dealings]
Never demand or enforce by terrifying people or by accusing wrongfully,
and always be satisfied with your rations (supplies) and with your allowance (wages).
[Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain.] Luke 3:10-14

Jesus said: Change your mind for the better, heartily amend your ways, with abhorrence of your past
sins. Matt. 4:17
Click here to see 53 New Testament references to repentance.

How do we know from what else to repent?

Paul says: For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world. Titus 2:11-12

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

How do we access the grace of God to teach us what to deny?

Jesus says: For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words [not the Bible, his
living voice] and does them, .. is like a man ..building a house securely.. on a rock. Luke 6:47-8. As
many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19. So we go to him, by
being silent and listening; not reading, not talking, not praying, just quietly listening, and thinking his
name - which gives us access to the power of God; and when he tells us to do something, like repent,
we do it and obey.

We keep quiet to hear him because he said, Do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they
will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need
before you ask him. Mat 6:7-8

Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice. John 18:37

The words we hear are words of eternal life, not the words we read or hear read from of the Bible.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have,
even what he thinks he has will be taken from him. Luke 8:18
So call to mind the lessons you received and heard; continually lay them to heart and obey them,
and repent. Rev 3:2-3
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we let him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [manifested in us] that he might destroy the works
of the devil. 1 John 3:8

A prominent Early Quaker, William Penn, founder of the Pennsylvania, in his Introduction to George
Fox's Journal states:

Repentance from dead works to serve the living God consists of three operations:
1) to be shown the sin within you, (your habit, your error, or your desire to sin)
2) to realize it and to have a godly sorrow for it, and
3) a change for the future.
 Repentance is the natural result of people turning to the inward light and word:
for by the light comes sight of the sin
with the sight of the sin, you realize your error and wrongness with a sorrow for it; and
with realization and sorrow about the sin revealed by the light,
results in you changing your conduct in life from that time onward- repentance.

Such repentance leads to justification; that is, forgiveness of past sins through Christ,
the sole propitiation; and the sanctification or cleansing of the soul from the defiling
nature and habits of sin. This justification is complete by: 1) comprehending both justification
from the guilt of the sins that are past, as if they had never been committed, through the love and
mercy of God in Christ Jesus; and 2) and the person being made inwardly just through the
cleansing and sanctifying power and spirit of Christ revealed in the soul, which is
commonly called sanctification.

This leads to the prize of the high calling to all true Christians: perfection from sin, according to
the scriptures of truth, which testifies perfection to be the end of Christ's coming, and the nature of
his kingdom, and for which his spirit was and is given. But this is a not perfection in wisdom and
glory in this life, or from natural infirmities or death, as some have with a weak or ill mind imagined
and insinuated. This a redeemed state, regeneration, or the new birth; and unless this work is known,
there is no inheriting the kingdom of God.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more information.

Here's all the verses in the New Testament that show the refer to producing fruit to righteousness
and holiness.

● When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8

● But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-
control. Gal 5:22-3

● Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. Mat 3:7-9

● "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit;
apart from me you can do nothing. John 15:4-6. Abide, spend time waiting on Him, sitting in the Light, and
you will produce much fruit. Without His leading and direction, anything we do counts for nothing.

● The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. Mat 3:9-11

● "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Mat 7:14-16

● By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Mat
7:15-17

● Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. Mat 7:16-18

● A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Mat 7:17-19

● Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Mat 7:18-20

● Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Mat 7:19-21

● "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is
recognized by its fruit. Mat 12:32-34

● Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May
you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered. Mat 21:18-20

● When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit. Mat 21:33-35

● "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will
produce its fruit. Mat 21:42-44. (He is talking to the Jews, who would not produce fruit because they thought
they were already righteous. But this applies to us to. For everyone who has will be given more, and he
will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. )

● For the time being no discipline brings joy, but seems grievous and painful; but afterwards it yields a
peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Heb 12:11

● Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found
nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Mark 11:12-14. (The fig tree is the symbol of Israel.)
 ● Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.
Mark 11:13-15

● At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. Mark
12:1-3

● Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our
father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. Luke 3:7-9

● The axe is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire." Luke 3:8-10

● "No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Luke 6:42-44

● Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers.
Luke 6:43-45

● Then he told this parable: "A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it,
but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'For three years now I've been
coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?'
If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.' " Luke 13:6-10. Jesus is talking about his three year
ministry in Israel, where none, except his disciples, were producing fruit. But it can apply to us too.

● He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so
that it will be even more fruitful. John 15:1-3

● Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine.
Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. John 15:3-5. You remain in him, by sitting quietly in the
Light.

● This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples. John 15:7-9

● You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then
the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. John 15:15-17

● So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to
him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. Romans 7:4

● For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in
our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. Rom 7:5

● But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-
control. Gal 5:19-23

● (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) Eph 5:8-10

● filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ—to the glory and praise of God. Phi
1:10-12

● All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the
day you heard it and understood God's grace in all its truth. Col 1:5-7

● And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please him in every way:
bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God, Col 1:9-11

● Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that confess
his name. Heb 13:14-16

● But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full
of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace, raise a harvest of
righteousness. James 3:16-18

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COMING OUT OF THE WORLD

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Prize Your Time and Choose Well How You SPEND It

As long as we live in our selfish nature, we are unruly and incapable of being ruled, controlled, or led by
a Lord or King.
So, if we want Jesus to be our Lord and King, we must first put to death the selfish, sinful nature
by repentance to purity.
Jesus leads us out of the world, one step at a time, showing us what to give up, and teaching us how to live.
The end result is purity and then the return of Christ in his glory with his Kingdom of everlasting peace
and joy.

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [ in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

Pleasures (Pass-Times) of the World

You cannot please God trying to live in the flesh. Rom 8:8. "For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My
ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts."Isaiah 55:8-9

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" Hebrews 12:14

"For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live! " Ezekiel 18:32

Jesus said: "And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and
are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit
to perfection. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard
the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. " Luke 8:14-15

Aside from false gospels, universal in Christendom today, the pleasures of this life are the greatest hurdles
to be understood and overcome. Most pleasures are not inherently evil; their problem is the
time passed in their pursuit. As our society's prosperity has increased, varieties of pleasures
have proliferated. Just consider all the different varieties of sports shoes available for purchase today, up
to one hundred; fifty years ago there were only four or five. It is very difficult for us, immersed in them
since childhood, to understand how the pleasures of the world can be harmful to us. It is difficult to see
how our pleasures actually enslave us to them, committing our mind, time, and energy to their pursuit.
The pursuit of pleasures is love of the world, which competes with love for God; as such, our pleasures
and passions are our false idols. For the love of the world, the things of the world, and the pleasures of
the world are enmity with God. As it is written:

Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not
in him. 1 John 2:15

You [are like] unfaithful wives [having illicit love affairs with the world and breaking your marriage
vow to God]! Do you not know that being the world's friend is being God's enemy? So whoever
 chooses to be a friend of the world takes his stand as an enemy of God. James 4:4

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature, with its passions and desires. Gal
5:24

So then those who are living the life of the flesh [catering to the appetites and impulses of their carnal
nature] cannot please or satisfy God, or be acceptable to Him. Rom 8:8

From George Fox's Journal:

"Take heed of pleasures, and prize your time now while you have it; do not spend it in pleasures or
earthliness. The time may come that you will say; you had time, when it is past. Therefore look at the
love of God now while you have time; for it brings you to loathe all vanities and worldly pleasures. Oh
consider, time is precious; fear God and rejoice in him who has made heaven and earth".

THE word of the Lord to all you vain and idle minded people, who are lovers of sports, pleasures,
foolish exercises, and recreations, as you call them; consider of your ways, and what it is you are
doing. Was this the end of your creation? Did God make all things for you, and you to serve your lusts
and pleasures? Did not the Lord make all things for you, and you for himself, to fear and worship him
in spirit and in truth, in righteousness and true holiness? But where is your service of God, so long as
your hearts run after lusts and pleasures? You cannot serve God and the foolish pleasures of the
world, as bowling, drinking, hunting, hawking, and the like....

"Therefore, now you have time, prize it; for this is the day of your visitation, and salvation offered to
you. Every one of you has a light from Christ; which lets you see you should not lie, nor do wrong to
any, nor swear, nor curse, nor take God's name in vain, nor steal. It is the light that shows you these
evil deeds: which if you love, and come unto it, and follow it, it will lead you to Christ, who is the way
to the Father, from whom it comes; where no unrighteousness enters, nor ungodliness. If you hate
this light, it will be your condemnation; but if you love it, and come to it, you will come to Christ; and
it will bring you off from all the world's teachers and ways, to learn of Christ, and will preserve you
from all the evils of the world, and all the deceivers in it."

I am moved to warn you to take heed of giving way to your own wills. Love the cross; satisfy not your
own minds in the flesh; but prize your time while you have it, and conduct your life in obedience
to what you already know, in obedience to God; you will not be condemned for what
you don't know, but only condemned for that you know and choose not to obey. Consider
before it is too late, evaluate yourselves, see where you are, and whom you serve. For if you blaspheme
God, and take his name in vain, if you swear and lie, if you give way to envy, hatred, covetousness,
and greediness, pleasures and indulgence, or any other vices, be assured that you serve the devil; but
if you fear the Lord and serve him, you will loathe all these things. He that loves God, will not
blaspheme his name: but where there is opposing of God, and serving the devil, that profession is sad
and miserable. Oh! Prize your time, and do not love that which God forbids; lying, wrath, malice,
envy, hatred, greediness, covetousness, oppression, gluttony, drunkenness,
whoredom, and all unrighteousness, God does forbid. So consider, evil communication
corrupts good manners. Be not deceived, God will not be mocked with vain words; the wrath of God is
revealed from heaven against all ungodliness. Therefore obey that which convinces you of all evil, and
tells you that you should do no evil: it will lead to repentance, and keep you in the fear of the
Lord. Oh! Look at the mercies of God, prize them, and do not turn them into unrestrained behaviors.
Oh! Eye the Lord and not earthly things!

...grace and truth came by Jesus Christ, who would teach them to deny all ungodliness and worldly
lusts, and to live soberly and godly in this present world. So that every man and woman might know
the grace of God, which had appeared to all men; which was saving, and sufficient to bring their
salvation. This teacher, the grace of God, would teach them how to live, what to do, and
what to deny; it would season their words, and establish their hearts.

George Fox

As an example of this world's pass-time pleasures, consider football. Having been a great fan of football,
I am not critical of those whose passion is football. But for a moment, step back and look at the spectacle
of 50-100,000 screaming, emotional people watching grown men play a game; and consider the time
and effort to get there and return home in addition to the time there; and consider the expense;
and consider the passion and adrenalin expended for a game of no consequence other than pride
of identification with the winner. When you step back from it, it can be seen as rather frivolous.

From A Guide to True Peace:

The love of liberty is one of the most dangerous passions of the heart. If we follow this propensity,
instead of true liberty, it reduces us to slavery. As our passions are the worst of tyrants, if we obey
them partially, we must always be in a perpetual strife and contest within; and if we entirely give
 ourselves up to them, it is horrid to think to what extremities they will lead; they will torment the
heart, and, like a torrent, sweep all before them, and yet never be satisfied. True liberty is to be found
only in him, whose truth shall set us free, and who shall make us experience that to serve him is to
reign.

When our selfish nature is slain, we will receive the Spirit of Christ, so that we will be obedient in our
love for God - and our obedience is by choice, God not having taken away our free will. Love never insists
on its own way. But our love for God will make our obedience to his wishes to be the joy of our life.

Compared to seeking God, preparing for your next life after earth that affects you forever, and learning
how to conduct yourself in this life with integrity and honor, pursuits of pleasure pale in significance.
And yet, that is what seeking God will do for you; he will teach you how to live righteously, soberly, godly
in this life as well as prepare you for maximum happiness in the next life which never ends. Choose well
how you spend your time, for our time on earth is finite, and our life's sole purpose is to have
the opportunity to find God, thereby prepare us for maximum happiness in the next. (And to find God, is
to have him control your words and deeds; to make God your ruling King and Lord, whom you serve
and obey, instead of serving and obeying your pride, interests, passions, and lusts.)

It is hard for you to believe, but the only reason you are here is to find God by learning the lessons of
life. Anything you do, which distracts you from this goal, is to be eternally regretted, (I'm not talking
of eternal torture, a great regret you didn't use your time to eternal profit). It is not that all pleasures are
evil within themselves, it is the distraction they represent; i.e. any reasonably intelligent person
knows playing cards is not inherently evil, but the time spent could be more profitable to us. We
somehow escape the certainty of our death to come, and let our time slip through our spread fingers
like sand that we have scooped up. We have only so much time to spend; spend it like your most
precious possession, wisely for the greatest return possible. Pass-times are the enemy of our souls. We
never know when our life here will close, but we know it will close. So as George Fox says: "prize
your time and the love of God above all;" sound advice. Seek your creator, seek what he wants of
you, seek what he wants you to avoid, seek why he made you, seek to please he who made you, seek
his righteousness - it is not easy, but it is everything - there is nothing else - all else is an
illusion. Remember, he is not asking you to give up all you pleasures and pursuits; only enough to give
him one hour of seeking per day to start - he will then draw you further.

General

LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it [is; that] I may know how frail
I [am]. Psa 39:4
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore. Psa 37:27
Be not wise in your own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. Pro 3:7
By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD [men] depart from evil. Pro 16:6
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Matthew 5:8
So likewise, whosoever of you that does not forsake all that he has, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:33

These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him: 1 ) A proud look, 2)
a lying tongue, 3) hands that shed innocent blood, 4) a heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and
plans, 5) feet that are swift in running to evil, 6) a false witness who breathes out lies, and 7) he who
sows discord among his brethren. Pro 6:16-19

God meets us while we are immersed in sin and says, Peace. He doesn't condemn you. He wants to help
you out of your addictions and bondages. He came to help people in sin to get rid of sin. Christ went into
a city in Samaria and went to the city well where he picked out a woman, who had been married five
times, yet she was living with a man to whom she was not married; this was the first person he selected
to carry his message to the rest of the city. He understands that we are living in sin. He doesn't condemn
us for that. He calls sinners out of darkness to a sinless state. For the world would have a Christ to
excuse continuing to live in their passions and pleasures, but those committed to truth would have a
Christ to change them to live pleasing to God, whatever the price.

To become purified and enter the Kingdom of Heaven, we must be prepared to give up everything we
have. This doesn't mean we become paupers or that we leave our family without support and become
a vagabond. A believer that does not care for his family, especially those of his own household, is worse
than an infidel that has never heard of God. We have to give from our excess material
possessions, (including money), and we have to spiritually commit to him, which insulates us from
the world, including family; but we still stay in our honest occupations, care for our families, and fulfil
our obligations while seeking. But we must be prepared to give up any of our false idols, (whatever we
place equal to or more than our commitment to God), and our habits of the flesh.

The three enemies to God are: lust of the flesh, lust of the eye, and the pride of life. We have to crucify
these with the supernatural help of the Light's changing grace. The lust of the flesh includes lust for
bodies, food, drink, drugs, money, etc. Lust of the eye is to want to own something because it is
beautiful. Pride of life is to be proud of your beauty, strength, wealth, possessions, lack of possessions,
(you can be prideful for being poor), your social causes served, being a healthy eater, driving a small car
or large car, etc; pride roots in lust's accumulations. When we desire anything because of its scarcity, we
lust to boost our pride. Lust is love of the world, and the love of the world is enmity with God. Lusts and
the sinful nature have to be crucified. Once we have crucified the lusts, we will of course continue to
eat, drink, own things, etc; but we will use the things of the world as if we did not possess them, that is,
with little interest in them except as a necessity of life, which is then to be lived in everlasting joy to the
glory of God with thanksgiving, instead of our selfish interests.

Covetousness, which is greed and idolatry or not being satisfied with what you have, is another part of
lust. But we have his assurance that if we commit to him, our needs will be provided by Him.

Therefore do not worry and be anxious, saying, What are we going to have to eat?
or, What are we going to have to drink? or, What are we going to have to wear?
For the Gentiles (heathen) wish for and crave and diligently seek all these things,
and your heavenly Father knows well that you need them all.
But seek (aim at and strive after) first of all His kingdom and His righteousness (His way
of doing and being right),
and then all these things taken together will be given you besides.
So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries
and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble. Matt 6:31-35

Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed,
avarice, lust, and craving for earthly possessions]
and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you have];
for He Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor
leave you without support.
Not, not, not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let down (relax My hold
on you)! Heb 13:5

What God Says About Debt

See George Fox's excellent writing on the side
bar We Forgot About Covetousness for more.
Keep out of debt and owe no man anything,
except to love one another; Rom 13:8
If you try to keep all the commands in the
Bible, even limiting yourself those in the New The borrower is servant to the lender. Prov 22:7
Testament, you will be very unsuccessful. It
When the Lord your God blesses you
is trying to live by a Law without divine help-
as He promised you, then you shall lend
grace. You will smother. Try keeping these
to many nations, but you shall not borrow;
commands:
and you shall rule over many nations,
but they shall not rule over you. Deu 15:16
love your enemies,
when someone hits you on one
side of your face,
turn your other cheek and offer it to them,
love your neighbor as yourself,
love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength,
be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect.

You can't possibly be perfect, no matter how hard you try, unless he makes you perfect by
his grace. You can't love your neighbor as yourself, unless he gives you a gift of love by
grace. It is impossible to keep the commands, even of the New Testament, without
divine change and help, grace. Grace is a process, accessed by the cross. Cleansing is
a process. Grace teaches us how to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present
world. You have to go to Christ to learn from Him and be shown by Him what he wants you
to change. Only he knows how to change you, and in what order to make all the
necessary changes - with personalized commands and divine grace to aid you. And as
you spend quiet time with Him, your desires for the world will melt away - so that when
he does tell you to stop something, it will be with his help and feel right. He will cleanse
us, one lust or affection at a time. This is repentance; regretting our sins or
condition, resolving to be better, and changing our actions. He will only give us
commands that we are capable of keeping; and as we progress, he will strengthen us so
we can keep increasingly difficult commands. As your creator, he understands us far
beyond our own understanding, and he is uniquely equipped to manage our cleansing
and change.

The greatest persecutors of the Quakers were the Puritans. The Puritans walked
outwardly by the flesh, according to their interpretation of the Bible, considering
most things sinful; while the Quakers walked in love by the Spirit, according to how
they were led by their inner teacher, Christ. So the Puritans focus was avoiding sin, while
the Quakers' focus was to be obedient and pleasing to Christ, their teacher and Lord
within. They were two entirely different spirits: one harsh and judgmental, the other
loving and obedient; one focused on outward law, the other focused on inward love
and obedience. We see the Puritan spirit today in the fundamental sects. Yet, many from
the world, saw and see them both the same. For example, the Puritans said cards was a
sin; while the Quakers said it was a waste of time, which could be better spent in seeking
to hear and serve their beloved.

Even before Jesus began his ministry, John the greatest of all the prophets, was
telling people to begin to get ready for the Kingdom of Heaven by following these
simple commands that led to righteousness:

Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your
conduct. Matt 3:2
Give to the poor; share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of
life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain.
Luke 3:10-14

Those who took his message of repentance to heart were already entering the Kingdom
of Heaven when Jesus began his ministry. These are just the beginning acts of
repentance. They do not cover lust, rage, pride, envy, jealousy, addictions, etc.

Each of us has a different set of vices and habits. We're like different onions. He has to
take off one layer at a time. My first layer is different than your first layer. In the end, we
will be very similar, but our order and process to get there will be different. Something
for me that is the hardest to give up, may be the easiest for you to give up. We're all
different. He has to lead us differently out of the wilderness. We get different commands
that are tailored to our condition; he meets us in sinful Egypt, and leads us out
individually through the wilderness to the promise land. In the meantime, do your best
to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," (not as they have done unto you,
or as you think they deserve what you do to them). He will melt away your desires for
the pleasures of the world, and then they are easy to give up. This is done by
abiding, remaining with Him in silence while you listen for his teachings by his Light
and Words to you, and by obeying his commands.

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence, see George Fox's writing on Why
Silence? (also on the side bar)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more. (also on the side bar)

A withdrawal from the world for a period of solitude can be helpful to see the world
more clearly as it is. From the Lord: "withdraw from the world long enough to
see the inconsideration and hate within it."

We have to get where we avoid evil not just because we're supposed to, but because we
hate it. To hate something evil, we have to be aware of the pain and damage that it causes
us. He makes it painful. Then we shun something because we want to avoid the
pain associated with doing it. Each time we slip and return to an addiction, ( an affection or
a lust), the pain gets worse, until finally we go out of our way to never slip again.
Christ understands us; and if we go to Him by being silent and waiting on Him, he will
help us to get rid of our lusts, affections, and addictions. Triggers to our addictions and
lusts are turned 180 degrees around to be triggers to flee the same.

There is a story about William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, and George Fox,
the founder of the Quakers. Penn had just been convinced of the true gospel and
approached George Fox, (who was very much against taking up arms), about whether
he should continue to wear his sword. Reportedly, Fox told him to "wear it as long as
you can." Afterwards, meeting Penn without the sword, he said, - "William, where is
your sword ?" "Oh," said Penn, "I have taken your advice. I wore it as long as I could."
He wore it until his conscience or Christ told him to give it up, and then he couldn't wear
it. This is analogous to anything in our life that we do or have; things that we are not
sure whether Christ wants us to give up or not. He will teach us how to live. He will show
us the things that we need to get rid of. Gently, he will lead us to Him; less of ourselves,
less of our habits, less of our instability, less of our emotions, and more of Him.

You must become committed to the telling the truth. Even "little white lies" get bigger and bigger
because lying becomes easier and easier. Lies can be a straight contradiction, exaggeration,
or omission of details that would reverse what you just said. No lie is acceptable. If you slip up and tell
a lie in the haste or excitement of the moment, go back to the person you lied to and correct it. The more
you think you might loose by telling the truth, the more you will gain to your total surprise if you risk to
tell the truth. It is a spiritual law, just like gravity is a natural law. all liars, shall have their part in the
lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 21:8. AND You belong to your
father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the
beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44. Lying is so easy, the Lord instructed us to
let our answers be restricted a single word: yes or no, for all extra words invariably comes from the spirit
of the evil one within us; which spirit we seek to purged from by the process of purification that this
site teaches. When you are willing to give up anything, so that you can get closer to God, you have
nothing to lie about any more; for one lies to gain or preserve, whether it is goods or pride.

Early Quakers became very successful in business and trade, because people wanted to deal with people
they trusted to be honest in all circumstances. We have to be honest, even on our taxes. "He that is
faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also
in much. If therefore you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your
trust the true riches?"Luke 16:10-11. For more on honesty in our business and professional lives, see
George Fox's Letter 200.

Any pornography in your life has to be given up; any and all, whatever the source: movies, TV, surfing
the web, magazines, etc. All avenues and acts of sexual immorality have to be stopped to progress
spiritually. He said to me, "he who practices adultery, (unfaithful to a committed partner), cannot be
my disciple; but I do not judge someone coming out of such a relationship, unless they fail to repent
" Obviously you can't stop thought, but you must do all you can to stop all actions of sexual
immorality. Thoughts and lust are something that Christ will eventually remove; (I write, having
lust removed, after a long and painful stuggle, finished with the Lord's power removing my desires).
Paul said: ' Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he
who sins sexually, sins against his own body.' 1 Cor 6:18. When the gospel of peace was first preached to
the gentiles, the Apostles Council in Jerusalem consulted with the Holy Spirit to give the gentiles
the minimum rules they should follow. The only one of four which applies to current society is
'avoid sexual immorality.' So, you could say that this is the one rule that is necessary to start
and succeed. He will then add other commands that are tailored to you. However, whatever you know to
be wrong, if you can avoid it, avoid it. The vast majority of people who have arrived at this site are not
just starting on their spiritual journey; they are hungry for more and looking for the way to satisfy
that hunger. Whatever you have already given up, maintain you abstinence; don't return to them,
thinking you should only give up what Christ commands.

He told me, "there is far too little love in the world today, and I look with favor on any
love between men and women." Remember the Woman at the Well? She had five previous
husbands, and was living unmarried with another man. But, Christ selected her, taught her, and then
sent her out to witness and preach to the rest of the City. John 4:5-30. So, obviously he was not
concerned. She was evidently in a committed relationship. Fidelity is what is important, not a ring; and
not a ceremony from a "preacher" or civilian magistrate - neither of which have His authority. You cannot
be unfaithful to man and faithful to God. So people who are living in a committed relationship, or
people who have divorced and remarried, are not living in sexual immorality, at least in the Lord's eyes.

Regarding marriage: I received a command from him to dance with no one except your
wife, not even close relatives of any age. Dancing is a mating ritual, so restrict it to your spouse to
avoid arousal, interest, and/or temptation; even if you're not interested, your partner may be.
Exceptions would be a rare cultural tradition, such as everyone taking a whirl with the bride at a wedding.

Somewhat related to sexual immorality, women must dress chastely. Provocative dress is poison to
men; and if you would do unto others as you would have them do unto you, you will not expose your body
to men to be "attractive" or "in style," for in doing so, you are only appealing to their unholy lusts. So
keep your waist, hips, and chest covered; keep your dresses at a decent length; not burkas, but decent.
Dress as though you are dressing exclusively for your sixteen year old brother or son. From the Voice of
the Lord: dress as you would if attending a women's club. Dress simply, without flash. Those of
you dressing to be attractive, ask yourself exactly what kind of man are you are trying to attract; a
godly man will only be repulsed by a lack of modesty. Your beauty should not come from
outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it
should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth
in God's sight, 1 Pet 3:3-4. Likewise, seeking men must not encourage women's provacative dress and
behavior with whistles, wows, stares, compliments, etc.

The early Quakers had strong testimony against following fashion; particularly in clothes, crying
against ribbons, lace, and unfunctional decor of clothing. The Apostle Peter spoke of women
dressing moderately, without pompous hairdos and jewelry. The same advice applies to men with
pompous hairdos, tattoos, jewelry, piercings, etc. Other examples of following fashion is to buy the
latest styles and colors, while pushing perfectly good clothing to the back of the closet; to
dress conspicuously with expensive and extravagant designer clothing of the latest trends; to always
have the coolest cell phone, when the old one worked just fine; to serve the latest taste sensation from
the gourmet food magazines; that new dress for the party; and to have more clothes, just to look
different each day. In other words, don't use the creation wastefully or to serve your pride. There
is fashion in clothing, toys, sports, food, cars, computers, home, bicycles - whatever and wherever is
the latest and greatest or coolest. So how should we dress: simply, practically, modestly, whatever
is commonly available, without extravagance, without superfluous gingerbread, moderately, not
trying to attract attention to ourselves - but according to our preferences, which is Christian
freedom. See Fox's Letter 250 for more.

Regarding fashion, there are sects within christiandom that pride themselves in the fashion of
previous centuries. Such show of religion and conformity, Margaret Fox, the Mother of the Quakers,
wrote several times strongly against. The correct objective in dress is simple, not old or drab. For
even George Fox, the Quaker's founder, sent his wife gifts of material that were "scarlet" - shocking news
to some, but color is not sinful. Let us not make a show of godliness to men, repeating the mistake of
the Pharisees, who wore long robes (still the practice of today's ministers, Pharisaical heirs of hypocrisy) to look godly;
all their works they do to be seen by men. Wearing crosses is also a show of godliness.
Rather than outward show, let your kindness, along with moderation in your dress and conduct be
your "badge" of religion.

As with most rules from God, they are given to us in love to follow for our own benefit. And should we
follow them, we are much happier and more successful in life. Many of us have to learn the truth of
this statement the hard way, by suffering the consequences in our natural life of breaking the rules,
without even considering the spiritual consequences.

I will tell you some (the hardest and last for me) of what the Lord told me to give up, but if it doesn't
make sense to you, don't worry about it. For years I hesitated and backslid in giving these up as
previously commanded, with little progress. Finally, I gave them all up completely, while
drastically increasing my time in silent waiting, and my spiritual progress was almost immediate.
If applicable, at the right time he will gently lead you through them, so that you will be happy you gave
them up and know the time for you was right:

1) Television, plays, and movies. The TV, because it is full of sexual immorality,
violence, and violent language; in programming, commercials, comedies, etc. Even the
Disney channel is guilty occasionally. There were times when we had no TV in the
house. We have a TV, but it is stored, available for viewing possibly future produced
DVD's. We do not have, nor have we had cable for the last 26 years.

2) Sports. For me, attending sporting events was always too much trouble, but to watch
them on television was easy. Professional football was one of the last things I was told
to give up. I don't miss it. The adrenalin loss was noticeable. My time is spent seeking
instead.

3) I was a news junkie, following world events, particularly politics, or news in general.
We don't take a newspaper. I don't watch the evening news on TV. I don't miss it. Then
I became addicted to the internet news sites. I went to the internet news sites fifteen
times a day at work in lulls answering the phone. The Lord asked me for years to give
this up. I tried and failed, and tried again, and failed. Finally, I gave it up. I don't miss
it. The world is getting along just fine without me being informed about all the things
that I can do nothing about. I only need to take care of my business, while others take
care of the world without me worrying about it. I was the only one losing. News is
gossip and worry material. Worry is just something to occupy you mind and swell your
pride.

from Fox's Letter 391 "And keep out the Athenians' [Acts 17:21 ] spirit, spending their
time in hearing and telling of news, which the world is full of.

Newspapers require 500,000 trees being destroyed for every Sunday's news. Curiously
the environmental movement ignores the complete waste of the earth to serve this vain
pleasure. There are no statistics available to add to the impact of the "free"
newspapers. This is just one more reason to ignore the news.

Here's a current ad for news by cell phone: Celebs, movies, artists―dig into all the dirt
you want.
However trendy you are, there is no benefit in seeking dirt. News is bad news. Good
news doesn't sell in the world.

4) Somewhat related, was my tendency to repeat the worries ( and "news" is always bad
and something to worry about) of the world to everyone around me. Worries about
terrorism, earthquakes, corrupt politicians, incorrupt politicians, wars, weather, the
trade deficit, the national debt, etc. Not only was I keeping my mind in a turmoil, (the
opposite of peace and trust in God to take care of us), worrying about the world, I was
passing my worries on to others. NOT GOOD!
 5) One of the last commands given to me was to 'take no political stand.' He had
prepared me for this by telling me previously 'I heal the right and the left,' and to 'heap
tolerance.' I understand that he wants me apolitical - without opinions. He wants to
reach out to those across the entire political spectrum; and if I stand anywhere in it, I
offend those not of the same opinion. So, I changed my registration to independent. I
support no candidates or parties with my funds or efforts. My time in spent looking
inward. I am much happier. Now I focus on loving everyone, regardless of their
political leanings; and I am happy to not be a stumbling block to anyone of a persuasion
different from what I previously possessed. And my political opinions are dying; I
suppose if I tried, I might get worked up about some issue again, but I don't miss any of
it.

Certainly we have to make every effort to give up the unlawful practices: lying,
cheating, drunkenness, swearing, stealing, railing, sexual immorality, etc.

But in our culture we are immersed in lawful pastimes - sports, TV, movies, web
surfing, DVD's, music, concerts, theater, races, bodybuilding, shopping, blogging,
video games, etc. So where do we begin? You can't give it all up at once, or you will be
an empty shell. What you give up has to be led by him, one step at a time, with him
giving more hunger for him each step of the way. Titus 2:11-14 says: grace will teach us
to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts - how to live soberly, righteously, godly. Certain
things must be turned away from with all your strength, particularly those that lead you
to sexual immorality. Pornography addiction is the disease of the age and wherever
it appears, it must be eliminated: magazines, calendars, books, TV, movies, web surfing,
etc. If you are addicted to web pornography, at least get the sites off your Favorites list.
Make it more than one click to failure; get rid of your credit cards - anything to block
your ease of depravity.

But for the non-harmful pastimes: know they eventually will probably have to go, but
wait for the Lord to lead you in their denial, when he gives you strength to comply and
more hunger for him to fill the void created when you give them up. As the Lord has told
me: "I don't want people to give up everything at once, without me leading them and
filling them along the way, or they will end up an empty shell."

Regarding sports, bodily exercise that keeps you healthy is important and should not
be classified as a pastime, providing you are not obsessed with winning or resulting pride
of appearance.

Pastimes are not harmful unless giving them up is painful. But, even if a pastime is
not important to you, to others they are a major indulgence in their life. So, you may
decide to, or be asked to, refrain from participating in them to: 1) avoid the appearance
of endorsing them, thus being a good example to those who might indulge to their harm,
and 2) not offend those of other religious persuasions, who think they are sinful -
preventing them from hearing the truth as you practice it. Both cases illustrate the
practice of being your brother's keeper.

One of the purposes of this web site is to give you lots of reading material, to help you
spend your time profitably.

There is a whole subculture of music talking about there being no good or evil; this
demonic music extols the elimination of good vs. evil and promises to "vaporize the
Judiazer dogs" who call their practices evil. The "ranters" in George Fox's day believed
that all pleasures, (drunkenness, adultery, fornication included) were sinless if done
in faith; of course this is ludicrous. One of my Hindu acquaintances told me "there was
no good or evil; that he was so proficient in evil, that he was 'good' at it." This is
ridiculous rationalization of evil.

Since arguing with people about your beliefs is not helpful to developing peace, once you
are committed, you will have to withdraw from any deficit sect that preaches no
repentance and anything goes. Be you separate, said the Lord, and touch not the
unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a father unto you, and you shall be my
sons and daughters, said the Lord Almighty." 2Cor. 6:17. Come out of her, my people,
that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. Rev 18:4. If
you stayed, you would find it painful to listen to their misrepresentations of the message
of Christ and their idolization of scriptures to be their word, rule, guide, teacher, judge,
and trier of spirits. But don't try to correct them; you will only injure yourself and
not convince them. Those who can't hear, can't hear. Wait until you are told by Him when
to talk to others. When you are finished, and if told to preach, the power of God will
proceed you and will chain down your listeners so that they are forced to hear. You will
have to quietly leave your deficit sect to be able to hear Christ's teachings because he will
not build you up on top of a false foundation. (See Sect's Services for more.)

If you commit yourself to God, to seeking his will on a daily basis, with time dedicated
to getting quiet to listen, he will guide you and protect you. Your problems will go
away. Whatever happens will be to your good, even if it doesn't seem so to you at the
time. Nothing will harm you. He will give you rest. You will have the protection of
the heavens. So there is nothing to worry about any more. Do what you are capable of
doing, and then cast all your cares on him. Let him work them out. See How to Benefit
from the Changing Power of God for more detail.

But do not take this watching over you to be safety for participating in dangerous
activities by choice. Remember Christ was tempted to cast himself from the top of
the temple, with the assurance that the angels would catch him; he replied, 'you shall
not tempt the Lord your God.' From the voice of the Lord as a warning to
everyone: drunkenness can make you so loose that you kill yourself.
Drunkenness can result from drugs or alcohol.

As you begin to deny your former evil activities in the world, the basis of your
friendships will diminish. As you deny pursuits, language, revelry, drinking, carousing,
etc. your friends will become uncomfortable and begin to attack your commitment
to goodness. You will no longer have anything to gain from socializing with them. For
what fellowship can light have with dark or righteousness with lawlessness? Yes, they
think it strange that you do not run with them in the same flood of dissipation, speaking
evil of you.

from George Fox's Letter 56

Friends,

In the measure of the life of God wait,

to guide your minds up to the Father of life, where there is no shadow or changing.
As you progress, you must know a removing and changing of that which will change,
with that which does not change;
to that, take heed to guide all your minds, that none be found naked.
For who are found naked, they are in that which has an end, and does change,
and that causes blindness.
And therefore to you all this is the word of the Lord: in the measure of the life wait,
that it may join your hearts unto the Father of life,
that clothing and righteousness you all may come to receive,
and come to feel your strength renewed from the God of all strength,
to everyone of you according to your measure, and see him that shows mercy.
And so live in peace, which comes from the God of all peace,
who bruises Satan under your feet, who has ruled.
So here the love of God will come to be shed abroad in your hearts,
which love is one, and does not change;
in it dwell, and grow and abound,
that over all that which is contrary to the Lord of life, who destroys death,
you may reign everyone over your own hearts, and lusts, and vile affections,
and your former vile conversation, disposition, and nature, and wills.
So that you may come to know the saints' state,
unto whom all things were become new, and the old things were passed away;
and that which does not change, which is new, that mind,
to guide all your minds up to the living God, from where light, life, and power come.
So in it the Lord God of life preserve you,
that to him you may be a sweet smelling savor;
for that which will corrupt, and does corrupt,
and will grow ragged, and come to be torn,
and will die of itself and will wither, fade, and stink in the nostrils of God,
is that which is contrary to the measure of the life of God,
and is with the light condemned.
Therefore wait, (I do warn you all in the presence of the living God),
in the measure of the life of God, in it to grow up in love, in virtue, and in immortality,
in that which does not fade, which joins and unites your hearts together;
and that all that may with the light be condemned, which is contrary to it.
For that which defiles, is out of God's kingdom,
and is with the light seen and condemned;
in which light the children of the light walk,
and have unity one with another, and with the son of God, from where it comes.
And, my dear friends, keep your meetings,
and you will feel the seed of God among you all,
though never a word be spoken among you.
But be faithful, that you may answer that of God in everyone.
And do not neglect your talents,
but be faithful in the power and life of God, which you have received.
And dwell in the life, and power, and love of God one with another.

George Fox

George Fox's Journal Again:

Although many say they are christians, they are out of Christ's life, out of the
apostle's command, and out of the saints' ornament. To see such as are in the fashions of
the world before mentioned, a company of them playing at bowling, or at tables, or
at shuffleboard, or each taking his horse, with bunches of ribbons on his head, as the
rider has on his own, perhaps a ring in his ear too, and so go to horse racing to spoil
the creatures; Oh! these are gentleman indeed, these are bred up gentlemen, these are
brave fellows, they must have their recreations; for all pleasures are lawful. These in
their sports scream and shout like wild asses. They are like the cattle or beasts when they
are put to grass, lowing when they are full. Here is the glorying of those before
mentioned; but it is in the flesh, not in the Lord. These are bad christians and show that
they are gluttoned with the creatures, and then the flesh rejoices. Here is bad raising
of young men and young women, who are carried away with the vanities of the mind in
their own inventions, pride, arrogance, lust, gluttony, uncleanness. They eat and drink,
and rise up to play. This is the generation which God is not well pleased with; for their
eyes are full of adultery, who cannot cease from evil. These are those who live in
pleasures upon earth; these are those who are dead while they live; who glory not in
the Lord, but in the flesh: these are those who are out of the life from which the
scriptures were given, who live in the fashions and vanities of the world, out of
truth's adorning in the devil's adorning, (who is out of the truth), not in the adorning of
the Lord, which is a meek and quiet spirit, and is with the Lord of great price. But
this ornament and this adorning is not put on by them that adorn themselves, and have
the ornament of him that is out of the truth. And that is not accepted with the Lord which
is accepted in their eyes.

and

Come, you blessed of the Lord, and rejoice together; keep in unity and oneness of
spirit. Triumph above the world! Be joyful in the Lord; reigning above the world, and
above all things that draw from the Lord; that in clearness, righteousness, pureness, and
joy, you may be preserved to the Lord. Oh hear! Oh hearken to the call of the Lord! Come
out of the world, and keep out of it for evermore! Come, sing together, you righteous
ones, the song of the Lord, the song of the Lamb; which none can learn, but they who
are redeemed from the earth, and from the world.

George Fox

Pleasure of Correcting the World's Evils

( a subtle form of prideful pleasure)

Social action is another form of religion. You take pride in being on "the correct side"
of things. You feel righteous, but what you feel is really only an increase in pride, an
increase in the flesh. Worldly activities count for nothing. Whatever you do in the flesh is
not pleasing to God.

The Bible calls us to stay out of the world. Be in the world, but be not of the world. Your
focus should be inward, not outward. You can spend your days on this earth in
correcting "evil" or you can seek the will of God; until you are under his control and
capable of understanding his instructions and carrying them out with his power. As
the disciples were told by Jesus to "remain in Jerusalem waiting for power from on
high", you are called to turn inside and seek the heavenly Jerusalem, seeking the light
to change you into a vessel equipped with his power and suitable for his service. (Of the
650,00 Quakers, a very small percentage were preachers; most were middle class shop owners, laborers, soldiers, farmers, etc.; but all had
an office in the Body of Christ, with their lives being shining examples of Christian virtue.)

Your removing of self from involvement in the world is not a betrayal of your "goodness,"
it is a commitment to seeking his will without outside competitions. We are not
inactive when still seeking; we are called to express our faith in acts of love; giving to those
in need, visiting the widows, assisting the orphans, acts of kindness to others,
encouraging others in the acts of love, and avoiding evil conduct and conversation
ourselves. (Acts of love do not include protests, political activity, campaigning, promotion
of any institution, etc.) A good soldier does not get involved in civilian affairs. Any action
in your flesh to correct the evils of the world, however holy the motives seem to you;
unless you have been specifically directed as above, any action will only retard or halt
your spiritual progress -- whatever the purpose: slavery, women's rights, protecting
the environment, prevention of cruelty to animals, anti-drug campaigns, alcohol abuse,
child abuse, globalization, abortion, war, etc.

We are called to focus on the heavenly treasures, to turn inward seeking the light, to focus
on the what is beautiful, pure, noble, noteworthy of respect, truthful, and good. If we
spend our energies and time in correcting evil, we miss the opportunity to be
changed inwardly. After we are changed, then we can toil together with God in the causes
of his choice; and there will be causes, but he will be the one who orders our activities -
His Will, not ours.

If you think you are "called" to do something, I ask you: Where in the Bible does it speak
of being "called," as you use it? Called is to be summoned or named. The Bible has not
a single reference to "called" being something that God is requiring you to do, except to
come to Him. When he wants you to do something, he gives you commands and orders; not
a feeling, a desire, a burden, a door opening, a draw, or a "call." This word is thrown
around by some sects to justify anything anybody feels an inclination to do, as being
"called." When you are led by God to do something, he tells you exactly what to do
and exactly when to do it.

However holy our fleshly social actions feel, they only puff-up our pride
- further removing us from the will of God.

A "call" is particularly used by preachers, who have "heard the call." Being touched by
God, or having a spiritual experience, is not his call to be a preacher; it is a summons to
seek him: Many are called, few are chosen. Far, far too many people interpret a touch by
God to mean he wants us to work for him in a non-secular job; this is not true. He wants us
to stay where we are, making as few changes as possible in our life, so that we can hear
him more easily as we try to quiet our minds to listen for his teachings and commands.
And if we start preaching or teaching before we are perfected and directly commanded
to, our spiritual progress is stopped dead.

As Christians, we are told the world is passing away for us, so we don't need to keep us
with its problems. When we step into the Kingdom of Heaven, which is another
dimension, the world, as we see it, is gone; we see from another dimension, even though
our bodies are still here on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven is within us and around us; it
is another dimension of reality. Everything we now see will be gone from our
sight. (Physicists tells us there are several other dimensions than the three + time we see.)

So, we are called to come out of the world and turn inward; to stop thinking about things
in the world and think about heavenly things; to give to the poor and build up treasure
in heaven. We are to focus on Christ and to focus on loving our neighbor. Being kind to
our neighbor. Forgiving our neighbor. Loving our neighbor. Loving everyone at
work; they're our neighbor too. Loving every person we come into contact with, because
they all have the light of Christ within them and we are loving Christ when we love them.
We are called to follow peace with all men. If we are protesting, we are not following
peace with all men. Heb 4:12, 2 Tim 2:22. We are called to be apolitical - having no
political opinions. We are called to not put our faith, hopes, resources, or efforts in
any worldly power, person, or cause. This is not being callous to the world's problems; for
we know that by dying to self, and becoming a soldier under orders from Christ with
his power to help us - then we can be more effective than one hundred lifetimes
without God's direction and power.

Simple Starting Rules to Follow

Beyond your daily seeking through meditation, here are the starting rules that if you
follow, you will do well.

This was John the Baptist's simple message of repentance, to get ready for Jesus and the Kingdom:
Repent: think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct.
Matt 3:2
Share from your excess with those who are without the necessities of life.
Be honest in all your dealings, never exaggerating or overreaching anyone.
Don't oppress people or frighten anyone, don't lie, don't want more, don't complain. Luke 3:10-14
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Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. (Jesus' #1)
Set aside at least one hour for quiet time every day.
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Above all, don't swear (James #1, oaths, as in "I swear to tell the truth...."),
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Above all, love each other deeply, for love covers a multitude of sins (Peter's #1),
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Flee from sexual immorality, (in Acts 15:28 from the Apostles' Council to the beginning Gentiles) .
All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own
body. 1 Cor 6:18
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Prize your time and the Love of God to you. (Fox's #1)
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Whatever commands you receive in meditation, record them, review them, and keep repenting.
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If you make mistakes, ask forgiveness plus help, resolve to do better, and don't look back again at
them.
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Don't worry, he loves you, doubt it not! (from him in meditation). He is watching over you
continually!
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And don't talk about God or Christ unless he tells you to. Wait until your words are from the Spirit.
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Enjoy the good things of this life with thanks and praise to our to great and wonderful God.

Consider George Fox's statement below regarding any worldly activity:

Considering the hurries that were in the nation, it came upon me at the close of
this meeting to write a few lines to Friends, to caution all to keep out of the spirit of
the world, in which trouble is, and to dwell in the peaceable truth; as follows:

DEAR FRIENDS AND BRETHREN,

Whom the Lord has called and chosen in Christ Jesus,

your life and salvation, in whom you have rest and peace with God;
the Lord by his mighty power which is over all, has preserved and supported you to this day,
to be a peculiar holy people to himself,
so that by his eternal spirit and power you might be all kept out of the world,
for in the world is trouble.
In this great day of the Lord God Almighty,
he is shaking the heavens and the earth of outward professions,
their elements are in a heat, their sun and their moon are darkened, the stars falling,
and the mountains and hills shaking and tottering,
as it was among the Jews in the days of Christ's appearing.
Therefore, dear friends, and brethren, dwell in the seed, Christ Jesus,
the rock and foundation, that cannot be shaken;
that you may see with the light and spirit of Christ,
that you are as fixed stars in the firmament of God's power;
and in this his power and light you will see over all the wandering stars,
clouds without water, and trees without fruit.
That which may be shaken will be shaken,
as will all that are wandered from the firmament of God's power.

Dear friends and brethren, you that are redeemed from the death and fall of Adam,
by Christ, the second Adam, in him you have life, rest, and peace;
for Christ said, "in me you shall have peace, but in the world trouble."
And the apostle said, "they that believe are entered into their rest," namely Christ,
who has overcome the world, bruises the serpent's head, destroys the devil and his works,
and fulfils the types, figures, and shadows of the Old Testament, and the prophets.
In whom the promises are yes and amen;
who is the first and last, beginning and ending, the eternal rest.
So keep and walk in Christ, your rest, everyone that has received him.

Dear friends and brethren,

whatever bustlings and trouble, tumults or outrages,
quarrels and strife, arise in the world,
keep out of them all;
concern not yourselves with them;
but keep in the Lord's power and peaceable truth, that is over all such things;
in which power you seek the peace and good of all men.
Live in the love which God has shed abroad in your hearts through Christ Jesus;
in which love nothing is able to separate you from God and Christ,
neither outward sufferings, persecutions, nor any outward thing that is below and without;
nor to hinder or break your heavenly fellowship in the light, gospel, and spirit of Christ,
nor your holy communion in the holy ghost, that proceeds from the Father and the Son,
which leads you into all truth.
In this holy ghost, in which is your holy communion,
that proceeds from the Father and the Son,
you have fellowship with the Father and the Son, and one with another.
This is it which links and joins Christ's church or body together
to him the heavenly and spiritual head, and in unity in his spirit,
which is the bond of peace to all his church, and living members,
in whom they have eternal rest and peace in Christ, and with God everlasting,
who is to be blessed and praised for ever, Amen!

'Dear friends and brethren,

abide in Christ the vine, that you may produce fruit to God’s glory.
As everyone has received Christ, walk in him, who is not of the world that lies in wickedness;
so that you may be preserved out of the vain fashions and customs of the world
which satisfy the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life,
which are not of the Father, but of the world that passes away.
Whoever joins to that which is not of the Father, or encourages it,
draws the mind from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Therefore let Christ rule in your hearts,
that your minds, souls, and spirits may be kept out of the vanities of the world
in their words, ways, and actions,
that you may be a peculiar people, zealous of good works,
serving the Lord through Jesus Christ, to the praise and glory of God;
that by the word of his grace your words may be gracious,
and in your lives and conversations you may show forth righteousness, holiness,
and godliness,
that God Almighty may be glorified in you all, and through you all,
who is above all, blessed and praised for ever. Amen.

George Fox
London, the 11th of the 4th month, 1685

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Perfection, Purity, and the Sinless State

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father
is perfect.
Matthew 5:48

Not be kind of perfect. Not perfect as you can. Not as perfect as humanly possible while trying.
Perfect - as your heavenly Father is perfect - a definitive qualification of perfect.
Perfect that is impossible without divine grace: to change us, to purify us, to make us like Him, perfect.

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And the Lord said unto Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job,
that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and upright man,
one that fears God, and eschews (shuns, abhors) evil? and still he holds fast his integrity,
although you move me against him, to destroy him without cause. Job 2:3

If you search the scriptures trying to prove to yourself that you have eternal life, you can find verses
taken out of context that you can use to think you have eternal life; or to prove purity or perfection
is impossible (like, even Jesus said he wasn't good) ; thereby convincing yourself there is nothing you
have to do to please God except say you believe Jesus is the son of God.

On the other hand, if you:

● are unhappy still being subject to anger, lust, passions, pleasures, lying, bad habits, etc., or
● want to have a closer relationship with God, or
● want peace - quietness, confidence, assurance with trust forever, or
● want to be pleasing to God, whatever the cost, or
● want God to run your life, instead of you continue to make mistakes, or
● want to be doing God's will, not your own,

you will search for how to obtain more of Him than what you have. And you will notice he promises
peace, union, and the Kingdom; but you will also notice the many scriptures that show He
requires perfection, crucifixion, deadening the sinful nature, the new mind, the new heart, the new
man, righteousness, purity, and holiness; and then you will start searching for how to arrive at what
He requires from you: repentance, your bodies as a living sacrifice, crucified on the inward cross of
self-denial, your sinful nature dead, and Christ' spirit completely replacing the sinful nature in your
bodies, to live in union with He and God in the Kingdom within, while on the earth, and then forever as
a son of God.

For this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who
are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6

This section is written in hope that you can see that purity and a sinless state are required and
possible, (proven by scripture and George Fox's experience), seek the sinless state created by the
changing grace of God through Christ, and then come to receive the return of Christ in his glory to
establish his Kingdom in your heart. As long as we live in our sinful nature, we are unruly and incapable
of being ruled, governed, or led by a Lord or King. So, if you want Jesus to be your Lord and King, you
must put to death the sinful nature by repentance to purity. It is only by grace that we can become
sinless and pure, but we have to go to Christ to receive his grace: Here I am! I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. Rev 3:20
We have to listen to his voice and obey his commands heard, in order to receive his changing,
purifying grace.

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go
to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes

that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God,
so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me.
Acts 26:17-18

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:11-14

When God said that Job was: perfect, upright, shunned evil, and held his integrity
under testing, it was before the Law had been issued; and long before Christ came and died on the
cross; long before the Spirit of God was poured out on all mankind; and before, Christ made it possible
have union and fellowship with God by entering the Kingdom of Heaven within us. So, God
has called a man upright and perfect, other than Christ. And as the scriptures below state, so
God also consider Enoch, Noah, Zachariah, Elizabeth, Hezekiah, Asa, and David, (though David's was
not lasting because of his adultery).

After the Law and before Christ, the only people who received the favor of God were those who walked
close to conforming to the Law's requirements; those who ignored his Law, were disregarded by Him, Heb
8:9. Because of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, with only a belief in His name, with humble sorrow for the
past, we can approach God and receive the operations of his changing grace to purify our hearts
and consciences; whatever our burden of past sins may be. With faith in the name of Jesus, by grace and
the cross, He can now make you perfect in every good work to do his will, Heb 13:11; a forever cleansing
and perfection with resulting union is now available to all who go to him for change. And yes,
like Job, we too must be tested before we receive the reward of the increase in his Spirit, the Spirit of
Love. (See Meditation Guidelines for the testing). And a little while after that, staying faithful, not tiring
of faith energized acts of love, he returns in His glory to establish his Kingdom in your heart and to be
your Lord forever.

Men cannot see perfection in another man; men didn't see perfection in Christ - they killed him;
the righteous religious people of Israel mocked and ridiculed Jesus, as He was perfecting prostitutes and
tax collectors. Job's friends didn't see his perfection - they ridiculed him. Yet, God called Job perfect.
You will know perfection by the actions of the person, their conversation, their fruits: love, joy,
peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control - not by their claims;
that would be boasting, which is the opposite of love. A perfect man still only sees his weaknesses; but
as Jesus said to Paul when he complained of his weakness, My strength and power are made
perfect (fulfilled and completed) and show themselves most effective in weakness. He also said,
you will know them by their fruits. Quoting William Penn: A perfect man according to
God is: blameless, sinless, a shunner of evil; yet "can still make mistakes that are not sins, still be subject
to disease, and be without perfect wisdom or glory." And quoting John Gratton: "So it is plain, men may
be really, perfectly, sincerely, children or branches, yet may grow from strength to strength, faith to faith,
in and by the spirit of the Lord, yet be perfect children, and grow to be young men, and overcome the
wicked one, and still grow to be fathers, and still press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling
of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded. This is the perfection
we mean; we do not mean such a perfection as that nothing can be added unto it."

Now let's look at some of the many, many scriptures that undisputedly support holiness,
purity, and perfection; but are never quoted by the preachers holding up sin today.
(Scriptures quoted by the deficit sects, which plead that Jesus came so that we can sin and remain
immoral, are also analyzed at the bottom of this page. Click to go to the bottom of the page now.)

● But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy,
because I am holy."
 Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially, live your lives as strangers here
in reverent fear. 1 Pet 1:15-17

● that he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him
without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-75

● For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy:..
..ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. Lev 11:44-45

● Follow peace with all men and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.
Heb 12:14

● And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from
other people,
that ye should be mine. Lev 20:26

● For by a single offering He has forever completely cleansed and perfected those who
are consecrated and made holy. Heb 10:14

● let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out
of reverence for God.
2 Cor 7:1

● Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty
of holiness. Psalm 29:2

● And ye shall be holy men unto me. Exodus 22:31

● And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and
true holiness. Ephesians 4:24

● so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming
of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints. 1 Thes 3:13

● For God has not call us to uncleanness, but unto holiness. 1 Thes 4:7

● Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity
and holiness with sobriety. 1 Tim 2:15

● The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becomes holiness, not false accusers,
not given to much wine, teachers of good things; Titus 2:3

● But now since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God, you have your
present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life. Rom 6:22

● For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may
be partakers of His holiness. Heb 12:10

● But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of
Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.1 John 1:7

● And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God. 1 John 3:3,9 (so if you are still sinning, you must not really be 'born again,' yet)

● Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8

● Our Savior Jesus Christ; that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:12-14
One who still sins might mistakenly argue they are redeemed from every lawless deed , but not that
grace has purified them!

● Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of
the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart. 1 Pet 1:22

● But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood
of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. 1 John 1:7

● For He is like a refiner’s fire and like launderers’ soap. He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
He will purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer to the Lord
an offering in righteousness. Mal 3:2-3. An offering of righteousness is worship in spirit and truth.

● To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles;
which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man
in all wisdom,
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. Col 1:28

● But let patience have its perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. James 1:4
● Jesus said, Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48
This is THE scripture that most people don't want to acknowledge. Various rationalizations have
been proposed including:
He didn't really mean perfect perfect. Yet he says be perfect, like God is perfect - a
definitive clarification.
The next rationalization is: it is humanly impossible to be perfect. Correct. Without the
supernatural changing power of God, it is impossible.
But that is exactly what Jesus came to open up - the changing grace of God available to anyone who
believes in his name;
and then goes to him to listen to and obey - his Word and Light that is within each of us, waiting to
teach and change us.
Jesus wants to change us to be like himself - he wants to clone his spirit into us, changing us to be like
Him, perfect.
We crucify our sinful spirit of selfishness, and he replaces it with his - one command at a time that we
hear Him speak and we obey.

● And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors
and teachers, For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body
of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a
perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: Eph. 4:11-13.

● There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is
not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

● Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy
works perfect before God. Rev 3:2

● To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge
of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect. Heb 12:23

● We are glad whenever we are weak but you are strong; and our prayer is for your perfection. 2 Cor 13:9

● Aim for perfection, listen to my appeal, be of one mind, live in peace. 2 Cor 13:11

● But whoever keeps his word, in him truly is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are
in him. 1 John 2:5

● Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is,
so are we in this world. 1 John 4:17

● Jesus said, The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as
his master. Luke 6:40
The Amplified Bible says: A pupil is not superior to his teacher, but every one
completely trained
- readjusted, restored, set to rights and perfected - will be like his teacher.
Luke 6:40-48
Why would Christ tell us this, unless he wanted us to become like him? Remember this was the preface
of his statement: "Don't try to take the spec out of your brother's eye until you remove the beam from
your own." When "you get the beam out of your own eye" by being perfected, you can see clearly how
to remove the spec from your brother's. So he wants us sinless and purified so we can help our brothers,
but until then, we can't even see how to help - and if we think we can, we are more blind that he who we
are trying to help - we have a beam in our eye, and he only has a spec - who is more blind? Only when
Christ has perfected us, can we remove that spec; only then can we preach or teach, after we are
readjusted, restored, perfected and set to rights, authorized; then we can help - until then we just
harm those we try to correct. To be restored, is to be renewed into the image of God, as was man before
the fall in the Garden - which is Christ's job with all of us - to reconcile the whole creation back to God, as
it was, even better, than before it fell due to the disobedience of Adam. For we cannot be reconciled back
to God in our fallen state, we must be purified, restored, perfected before union can take place - union that
is only possible between two like beings.

If you are teaching, preaching, or trying to correct someone else, before being perfected by Christ,
you are estimating yourself to be greater than Christ.

● That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:17

● But let patience have [her] perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire,
wanting nothing. James 1:4
● Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded,
God shall reveal even this unto you. Phil 3:15

● In the days when Herod was king of Judea there was a certain priest whose name was Zachariah, of the
daily service (the division) of Abia; and his wife was also a descendant of Aaron, and her name
was Elizabeth. And they both were righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all
the commandments and requirements of the Lord. Luke 1:5-6

● Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, salutes you, always laboring fervently for you in
 prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. Col 4:12

● Let your heart therefore be perfect with the LORD our God, to walk in his statutes, and to keep
his commandments, as at this day. 1 Kin 8:61

● But the high places were not taken away out of Israel: nevertheless the heart of Asa was perfect all his
days. 1 King 15:14

● But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have
suffered a while, make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle you. 1 Pet 5:10

● Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of
the princes of this world, that come to nought: 1 Cor 2:6

● I beseech thee, O LORD, remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect
heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore. 2 Kin 20:3

● For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and
his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. 1 Kin 11:4

● And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.
Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 2
Cor 12:9

● Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. Psa 37:37

● For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same [is] a perfect man,
[and] able also to bridle the whole body. James 3:2

● But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye
have suffered a while, make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle [you]."
1 peter 5:10

● For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, [even] your perfection.
2 Cor 13:9

● These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah
walked with God. Gen 6:9

● By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God
had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Heb 11:5

● but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 1 Cor 13:10

● Thou shall be perfect with the LORD thy God. Deu 18:13

● I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my
house with a perfect heart. Psa 101:2

● Thus shall ye do in the fear of the LORD, faithfully, and with a perfect heart. 2 Chron 19:9

● God is my strength and power: and he makes my way perfect. 2 Sam 22:33

● It is God that girds me with strength, and makes my way perfect. Psa 18:32

● Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is
well pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom glory for ever and ever. Amen. Heb 13:21

● Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection;
not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Heb 6:1

● Jesus said: The seed is the Word of God. And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they
have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring
no fruit to PERFECTION. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good
heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:14-15
● Paul said: Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace;
and the God of love and peace shall be with you. 2 Cor 13:11

From George Fox's Journal :

Another time a common prayer priest, and some other people came to discourse with me. He asked me,' if
I was grown up to perfection? ' I told him, ‘what I was, I was by the grace of God.' He replied, 'it was
a modest and civil answer.' Then he urged the words of John, 'if we say that we have no sin, we
deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.' He asked, ‘what did I say to that' 'I said with the same
apostle, "if we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us;" who came
to destroy sin, and to take away sin. So there is a time for people to see that they have sinned,
and there is a time for them to see that they have sin; and there is a time for them to
confess their sin, and to forsake it, and to know the blood of Christ to cleanse from all sin,'
1 John 1:7.Then the priest was asked, ‘whether Adam was not perfect before he fell? And whether all
 God's works were not perfect?’ The priest said, 'there might be perfection as Adam had, and a falling
from it.' But I told him, 'there is a perfection in Christ above Adam, and
beyond falling; and that it was the work of the ministers of Christ to
present every man perfect in Christ; for the perfecting of whom they
had their gifts from Christ. Col 1:27. Therefore whoever denied perfection,
denied the work of the ministry, and the gifts which Christ gave for
the perfecting of the saints. Eph 4:11-13. The priest said, ‘we must always be striving.' I answered,
‘it was a sad and comfortless sort of striving, to strive with a belief that we should never overcome.' I
told him also, that ‘Paul, who cried out of the body of death, did also "thank God, who gave him the
victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. " 1 Cor 15:57. So there was a time of crying out for want of victory, and
a time of praising God for the victory. And Paul said, “there is no condemnation to them that are in
Christ Jesus." The priest said, 'Job was not perfect.' I told him, ‘God said Job was a perfect man, and that
he did shun evil; Job 2:3 and the devil was forced to confess, that "God had set a hedge about him;" Job 1:9-
10, which was not an outward hedge, but the invisible, heavenly power.’ The priest said, 'Job said,
“he charged his angels with folly, and the heavens are not clean in his sight.” I told him, ‘that was
his mistake; it was not Job who said that, but Eliphaz, who contended against Job.' ‘Well, but,' said
the priest, 'what say you to that scripture,' " the most just man that sins seven times a day?" 'Why truly,'
said I, ‘I say there is no such scripture;' and with that the priest's mouth was stopped. Many other services
I had with several sorts of people between the assizes and the sessions.

Christ told to us to "Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and His righteousness." Matt. 6:33 He told
us the Kingdom of God is within you and does not come with signs to be observed or
visible display. Luke 17:20-21. But Paul tells us that anyone who practices sexual immorality,
impurity, debauchery, idolatry, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions,
envy, drunkenness, etc., cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Gal 5:20-21

Jesus said, If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with
two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It
is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye
causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have
two eyes and be thrown into hell. Mark 9:43-47. He doesn't want us to maim ourselves. He is
only illustrating how serious sin is. Jesus is desperately trying to tell us that to enter
the Kingdom and escape hell, sin is not allowed, period. He knew false prophets with
false gospels would arise to deceive people in the future. He knew false prophets with false
gospels promising freedom to continue to sin would arise after he left. Changes in our heart through
the missing cross to purity can take away the desire of the hand, foot, and eye to cause us to sin.

So, how do we get rid of these things, unless it is by God's power and grace? Or do we carry these things
to the grave with us; and if so, why are we told throughout the scriptures to rid ourselves from these
things? As George Fox says, "If we have to carry our body of sin to the grave, these are sad tidings
indeed." Of course the gospel is "good tidings," and we don't have to carry our body of sin to the grave - if
we go to Christ with trust and nothing held back. We go and offer everything we have, including our
bodies, to be used to his glory at his direction; we TRUST Him to give us whatever strength is necessary,
to be obedient to whatever he asks, and to be able to do whatever he asks of us with JOY! He came so
that we might have life, and have it more abundantly. Remember, eye has not seen, nor ear has
not heard, those things God has prepared for those who love Him.

Since Christ said, "He who loves me, keeps my commands;" how do you keep his commands, including,
"Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect? What are you supposed to repent of? How do you
get changed? Christ said; "while you have the light (Christ), believe in the light" John 12:36. This site
is dedicated to helping you get in the light and have Him change you to become "children of the light",
John 12:36 with "your whole being filled with light" and therefore come out of darkness to a sinless state.

You must go to him, for everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and
does them, ...
He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; securely.. Luke 6:47-48
He can't make it any plainer: Come to Me, listen to My words (not read
the Bible), and do them.(obey)
If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come
to him and make our home with him. John 14:22-23 They make their home, a Kingdom without
visible signs with you, in you.
Go to him, sit in silence, listen, and obey what he tells you to do. This is the narrow way; the way
of repentance and the cross.

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your first priority, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish will
this is where you learn from Him, get cleansed by Him, led by Him, and come to know Him
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is
a cross to your will
 ● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but you repent of selfishness and give- it is a cross
to your selfish will
● you don't want to defer to others, rather than insist on you way, but you repent and do it - it is a cross
to your selfish will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

This how to kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members: sexual
vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is idolatry
(the deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5. This is the purification process,
because it is a cross to your will. Your will is to do something else, rather than sit quietly each day to
listen and watch for the Lord. Your will is to disobey any commands you receive, because you like what
you are doing and he is telling you to do something different. Your will is to run from anything ugly
about yourself he shows you. When you violate your will in these things, you are carrying your cross.
Belief in the true gospel, and the cross to realize the promise, releases the power of God
to purify you and make you one with Him. This is the true way, to pick up your cross daily and carry
it throughout the day.

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence, see George Fox's writing on Why
Silence? (also on the side bar)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more. (also on the side bar)

Christ's sacrifice covers your past sins and those you commit while you are striving become
pure. First you have to believe it is possible. Then you have to diligently seek the Kingdom of Heaven
as your first priority and passion. This is to strive for purity and holiness; to seek to destroy the
sinful nature; and to seek to crucify the passions and desires of this life. The whole purpose of this site is
to help you believe it is possible, the true hope, and then to give you a formula. Remember, He is
the Rewarder of those who diligently seek Him! He gave us the power to become a son of God;
John 1:12, he didn't make everyone a son who conceptually accepts Him as their Lord in name; no! he has
to actually become our Lord - to rule us, to control us, to command us, to love us, to discipline us, to
reward us with the greatest gift of all - his Love in our hearts - which is Himself, for God is Love.

George Fox said, "the world wants a Christ to help them hold on to their flesh and excuse their
human failings; Christ wants to get rid of our failings and be our true Lord in thoughts, actions, and
deeds." To some, this is frightening; to others, it is the dream of their life. To the latter we address
our comments.

Now, from George Fox's Journal, "Early Years and Translation" here is his experience arriving at perfection:
(full unabridged Journal is available on the left sidebar)

I saw also the mountains burning up, and the rubbish, and the rough, and crooked ways
and places made smooth and plain, that the Lord might come into his tabernacle.
These things are to be found in man's heart; but to speak of these things being
within, seemed strange to the rough, crooked, and mountainous ones. Yet the Lord said,
‘0h earth, hear the word of the Lord!'

(Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low;
and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth. Luke 3:5)

The law of the spirit crosses the fleshly mind, spirit, and will, which lives in disobedience, and does not
keep within the law of the spirit. I saw this law was the pure love of God which was upon me, and which
I must go through, though I was troubled while I was under it; for I could not be dead to the law but
through the law, which judged and condemned that which is to be condemned. I saw, many talked of
the law, who had never known the law to be their schoolmaster; and many talked of the gospel of
Christ, who had never known life and immortality brought to light in them by it. You that have been
under that schoolmaster, and the condemnation of it, know these things; for though the Lord in that
day opened these things unto me in secret, they have been since published by his eternal spirit, as on
the house top. And as you are brought into the law, and through the law to be dead to it, and witness
the righteousness of the law fulfilled in you, you will afterwards come to know what it is to be brought
into Christ, who is the author of, and you will have peace and access to God. But if you look out from
the faith, and from that which would keep you in the victory, and look after fleshly things
or words, you will be brought into bondage to the flesh again, and to the law which takes
hold upon the flesh and sin, and works wrath, and the works of the flesh will appear
again. The law of God takes hold upon the law of sin and death; but the law of faith, or the law of the
spirit of life, which is the love of God, and which comes by Jesus, (who is the end of the law
for righteousness' sake), makes you free from the law of sin and death. This law of life fleshly minded
men do not know; yet they will tempt you to draw you from the spirit into the flesh, and so into
bondage. Therefore you, who know the love of God, and the law of his spirit, and the freedom that is in
Jesus Christ, stand fast in him. Stand in that divine faith which he is the author of in you, and don’t
get entangled with the yoke of bondage. For the ministry of Christ Jesus and his teaching, brings into
liberty and freedom; but the ministry that is of man, and by man, which stands in the will of man,
 brings into bondage, and under the shadow of death and darkness. Therefore none can be ministers
of Christ Jesus but in the eternal spirit, which was before the scriptures were given forth; for if they have
not his spirit, they are none of his.

"Now I came up in spirit, through the flaming sword, into the paradise of God. All things
were new, and all the creation gave another smell unto me than before, beyond what words can utter. I
knew nothing but pureness, innocence, and righteousness, being renewed up into the image of God
by Christ Jesus; so that I came up to the state of Adam, which he was in before he fell.
The creation was open to me; and it was showed me how all things had their names given them, according
to their nature and virtue. I was at a stand in my mind, whether I should practice medicine for the good
of mankind, seeing the nature and virtues of the creatures were so opened to me by the Lord. But I
was immediately taken up in spirit, to see into another or more steadfast state than
Adam's in innocence, even into a state in Christ Jesus, that should never fall. And the
Lord showed me, that such as were faithful to him, in the power and light of Christ,
should come up into that state in which Adam was before he fell; in which the admirable works
of the creation, and the virtues of that may be known, through the openings of that divine word of
wisdom and power by which they were made. Great things did the Lord lead me into, and wonderful
depths were opened unto me, beyond what can by words be declared; but as people come into subjection
to the spirit of God, and grow up in the image and power of the Almighty, they may receive the word
of wisdom that opens all things, and come to know the hidden unity in the Eternal Being."

So [God] drove out the man [Adam and Eve out of paradise, the Garden of Eden]; and He placed at the east of the Garden of Eden
the cherubim
and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep and guard the way to the tree of life. Gen 3:24

AND further from George Fox's Journal, "Early Years and Translation"

"Moreover, the Lord God let me see, when I was brought up into his image in righteousness
and holiness, and into the state of the paradise of God how Adam was made a living soul;
and also to the stature of Christ, the mystery that had been hid from ages and generations:
which things are hard to be uttered, and cannot be borne by many. For of all the sects in Christendom
(so called) that I discussed with, I found none that could bear to be told that anyone
could spiritually grow to Adam's perfection, (that is into that image of God,
and righteousness and holiness that Adam was in before he fell), to be clear and
pure without sin as he was. Therefore, how would they be able to bear being told that any
should spiritually grow up to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; when it
threatens them to hear that any shall come, while upon earth, into the same power and spirit that
the prophets and apostles were in? Though it is an absolute truth, that none can understand the
Apostle’s writings correctly without the same spirit by which they were written.

The Lord God opened to me by his invisible power, how that ‘every man was enlightened by the divine
light of Christ.’ I saw it shine through all, and that they that believed in it came out of condemnation to
the light of life, and became the children of it; but they that hated it and did not believe in it,
were condemned by it, though they made a profession of Christ. This I saw in the pure openings of the
light without the help of any man; neither did I then know where to find it in the scriptures;
though afterwards, searching the scriptures, I found it. For I saw in that light and spirit which was
before the scriptures were given forth, and which led the holy men of God to give them forth, that all
must come to that spirit, if they would know God or Christ, or the scriptures correctly, which they that
gave them forth were led and taught by. "
(from George Fox's Journal)

Let's clarify what Christian "perfection" is not. It is not being God. It is not being Christ. It is not being
free from all sicknesses and earthly maladies. It is not knowing everything. It is not being perfect
as recognized by man; even Christ was not recognized by man as perfect in his time.

It is shunning evil. It is being morally upright. It is integrity that is unwavering, whatever

the circumstances, including unjust persecution. This is being perfect in the eyes of God, as
he describes Job.

Here is why we haven't seen a sinless state of those in Christiandom (what George Fox says in his
letter #262.)

The true hope, the true cross, the true faith,

the true worship, the true religion,
the true way, true image,
and true fellowship have been lost since the apostles' days,
among those called christians, who are out of the life.
And they that have lost the cross of Christ, which is the power of God,
in which is the true fellowship,
they have set up a wooden or a stone cross,
so false crosses, false christians.
 They that have lost the true hope, which purifies, as he is pure,
they have set up a purgatory to cleanse them when they are dead.
And others cry up a body of sin and death on this side of the grave,
with their hypocrite's hope;
and they have lost the true ministry,
and set up a false one, to preach up imperfection.
And people were imperfect in old Adam before Christ came;
for the law made nothing perfect;
but the true minister, Christ in you the hope of glory,
does make perfect,
both in the Apostles' days and now.
'Christ in you, the hope of glory,' said the apostle, whom we preach,
'warning every man, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.'
So the perfection is in Christ Jesus; the imperfection is in old Adam.
So this is the true hope that purifies,
which everyone that has it purifies himself, even as he is pure.
And everyone that has not a possession of this hope,
pleads for impurity and imperfection,
and a body of sin and a body of death unto their grave,
and a purgatory when they are dead.
Such have a profession of the scriptures, like the Pharisees;
and the hypocrite's hope which shall perish.

Here is what William Penn said about the sinless state, (in addition to his attainment of it):

First, repentance from dead works to serve the living God, which comprehends three operations:
1) a sight of sin,
2) a sense and godly sorrow for it, and
3) a change for the future.

This was the repentance they preached and pressed, and a natural result from the principle they turned
all people to.
For by the light came sight of the sin;
And with the sight of the sin, a sense and sorrow resulted;
And with a sense and sorrow about the sin revealed by the light, came a change of life from then on
- repentance.

Which doctrine of repentance leads to justification; that is, forgiveness of past sins
through Christ, the sole propitiation; and the sanctification or cleansing of the soul from
the defiling nature and habits of sin; which is justification in the complete sense of the
word: comprehending both justification from the guilt of the sins that are past, as if they had never
been committed, through the love and mercy of God in Christ Jesus; and the creature's being
made inwardly just through the cleansing and sanctifying power and spirit of Christ
revealed in the soul, which is commonly called sanctification.

From here sprang a second doctrine they were led to declare, as the mark of the prize of the high calling
to all true Christians: perfection from sin, according to the scriptures of truth, which testify it to be
the end of Christ's coming, and the nature of his kingdom, and for which his spirit was and is given. But
they never held a perfection in wisdom and glory in this life, or from natural infirmities or death, as
some have with a weak or ill mind imagined and insinuated against them. They called this a redeemed
state, regeneration, or the new birth; teaching everywhere, according to their foundation, that unless
this work was known, there was no inheriting the kingdom of God.

Think about it; have you not thought it strange that so many (thousands) of different sects exist, each with
a different interpretation of the scriptures? They squabble over different subsets of the scriptures. None
take the whole of the scriptures because they don't understand them. If they had the spirit in the
right measure, they would be unified in their interpretation, because there is only one meaning. A group
of perfected men and women would be in the unity of the spirit and would have no disagreements; the
will of the Father would be executed perfectly by a Body of Christ in the power of Christ. This was the
early church; this was the early Quakers. See Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself for more.

The younger members of the body, those not yet perfected, might decide to quarrel with their leaders, out
of the unity. This happened to the early Church, where antichrists were leaving the church with a
different gospel - as prophesied. This happened to the Quakers that George Fox and his hundreds
of thousands formed too. People are always looking for the easy way; not the narrow way that few
will find that leads to eternal life.

In the Body of Christ one individual does not have all knowledge or all gifts; what you don't have is made
up by other members of the body, so whatever knowledge is needed is received and shared, to be sure
the body works together - all controlled by the Head, Christ Himself. Sometimes, you are deliberately left
in need of another member of the body to complete your knowledge and understanding on some point.
This is to maintain your humility and to strengthen the Body as a whole. This is why Peter was corrected
by Paul regarding his not eating with the Gentiles when the Hebrews were around; a correction which
Peter immediately owned because his Spirit of Christ confirmed it. Christ could have personally
corrected Peter; but for the sake of the body, he let Paul, the Apostle of the gentiles, correct Peter. After
you are perfected (freed from sin), you will still be receiving wisdom and knowledge from Christ the Head
or from fellowship with other members of the Body.

I see the functioning of the Body almost everyday. I have questions which I pose to the Lord. My wife
gets the answers. Thus the Lord maintains interdependence of his Body.

And to those of you who attain perfection, to those who reach purity in this life, by you doing so,
(producing fruit), you show yourself to be true followers of Christ, and he then brings honor and glory to
our Father - is there anything else worth aspiring to do? For if there is some way we can repay our Father
for our breath, our heart beat, our life, our savior who has paved the way for us, then that is the only thing
to want - every other thing must take the back seat to the passion of bringing glory to the Son and
the Father. As for me, knowing that I can possibly do this for Christ and the Father, as insignificant as I
am, I gladly dedicate my life to do so, and I am eternally grateful for the opportunity. For with success,
we become united with God, and we operate according to God's purpose, will, and pleasure; and
our pleasure is to have clean, pure, holy, perfect purpose in our words and actions - to be a instrument in
his hands totally dedicated to life of love.

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of
the flesh and spirit,
perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Cor 7:1

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:24
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done
away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin- Rom 6:6

Ambrose Rigge, another early Quaker minister, has several compelling letters with a different
perspective which addresses the many denials of perfection's impossibility: 1) On True Christianity, 2)
The Spiritual Man, and 3) A Standard of Righteousness.

Stephen Crisp has an outstanding letter, DESTROYING THE ARGUMENTS THAT

SIN CANNOT BE CONQUERED IN THIS LIFE. Below are the introductory paragraphs,
with a completely different proof:

MANY are the devices of Satan, and great is the subtlety which he furnishes his children and servants
withal, by which he seeks to uphold his kingdom, pleading now a right to what he obtained by subtlety;
and has taught his whole family, that it is impossible for any to be freed from under his service; even as if
all men that are created of God, were created for the service of the devil; and although the devil can
create no man, yet that he is able, after they are made, to keep them in his service; yes, although their
maker calls them to serve him. So by this supposed necessity of sin, (which serves the devil and which is
a doctrine well-pleasing to man's flesh), he keeps nations, kindreds, tongues and people, in bondage to
his will. Not only that, but he has also bewitched and besotted his whole synagogue, and every sort in it,
that they cannot endure to hear that they might be freed from sin; and all that come to declare liberty
to these captives, and an opening of the door of this prison-house, (the darkness), unto those that are
shut up within it, they cry out against such, away with them from the earth, let them be crucified,
stoned, hanged, burned, imprisoned and banished, or at least, derided, and mocked at, and all manner
of evil be spoken of them: and what have they done? They have preached against sin, that it must come to
an end, and have preached that what is perfect, is to be found in this life, by which men might come to
the acceptable year of the Lord, unto whom there is nothing acceptable which is imperfect.

Certainly, there is no manner of slaves so well contented with their bondage, as are the devil's are;
and therefore it is worth the considering, what right he has to reign over mankind, and what work it is,
he gives his servants to do, that is so well-pleasing unto them, that they cannot endure to hear of being set
at liberty, as long as they have a day to live. As for my part, I have considered what right the devil can
claim to the government which he has among the children of men, reigning over kings and princes,
priests and people, from one sect to another, setting them all to work in blind zeal one against another;
yet all agreeing in this one question, (that is), is there any man or woman upon the earth, that is free
from under the reign of the devil, that he can live without sin? or is it possible for any to be so? The
general answer is, no; we are all, and must all be his servants, all the days of our lives. But some might
say, seeing you are all fellow servants, and that both you and your work do belong to one master; why
then are you disagreeing with one another about the work? But oh! my soul longs that some might
be awakened, once to consider and to rethink themselves, how they came to this state and condition, and
by what right and authority their master keeps them in this bondage, and whether it is not both lawful
and possible to come from under it?

You can read the entire, outstanding letter by clicking here.

Scriptures Used to Try to Prove Perfection is Impossible -
thus Justifying Doing Nothing

Now lets look at the scriptures which are usually quoted to argue that you need do nothing because
Jesus came and died so that you could continue to sin guilt free: (like if they can prove someone
sinned once, then they are justified in sinning continually and doing nothing to correct it.)

1) The first scriptures used to justify continuing living is sin with no effort to change, is Paul's
confrontation with Peter:

But when Peter was come to Antioch, I [Paul] withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
For before that certain came from James, he [Peter] did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come,
he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with
their dissimulation.
But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter
before them all, If thou, being a Jew, lives after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why
compel thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? Gal 2:11-14

So here Paul opposed Peter, telling us he was in the wrong and in hypocrisy.

There are many who joyfully say, "See Peter sinned, proving that if Peter sinned, then no one can
be sinless."

To those who judge Peter a sinner, I say: Who are you to judge Peter! Who are you to say his
mistake was a sin? Are you so wise a judge and close to God as conclude that Paul's words of "blamed,"
"not uprightly," and "dissimulation" constitute sin? Perfection is not being without mistakes; perfection
is to be without sin in God's eyes.

To repeat the concept of a body of Christ: In the Body of Christ one individual does not have all
knowledge or all gifts; what you don't have is made up by other members of the body, so
whatever knowledge is needed is received and shared, to be sure the body works together - all controlled
by the Head, Christ Himself. Sometimes, you are deliberately left in need of another member of the body
to complete your knowledge and understanding on some point. This is to maintain your humility
and to strengthen the Body as a whole. This is why Peter was corrected by Paul regarding
his not eating with the Gentiles when the Hebrews were around; a correction which Peter
immediately owned because his Spirit of Christ confirmed it. Christ could have personally corrected
Peter; but for the sake of the body, he let Paul, the Apostle of the gentiles, correct Peter. After you
are perfected (freed from sin), you will still be receiving wisdom and knowledge from Christ the Head
or from fellowship with other members of the Body, including occasional correction.

2) The second scripture quoted is Ecc 7:20: There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is
right and never sins.

Quoting Stephen Crisp in his Letter on The Wiles of Satan:

Answer. This is very true, neither do I plead, that any man is free from sin all the days of his life,
(except Christ), but have confessed they are all sinners by nature, until they are changed; and
besides, there it is but spoken of a people that were under the law, of which the apostle says, that it
made nothing perfect; but, said he, the bringing in of a better hope did: but the law did not purify
the comers thereunto, according to the conscience; but when the offerors had offered there remained
an evidence of sin in the conscience; but what is that to the Christians, who are come to know a better
hope, and the blood that purifies the conscience? For that same apostle that said, the law made no
man perfect, (under which law Solomon was, as also that people concerning whom it was said, there is
none that lives and sins not), notwithstanding the same apostle said, that it was the bringing in of a
better hope that did it. And what, are these fighters for sin, and sin-pleaders become so zealous, that
they will rather deny the better hope, than to cease from sin? If not, then there is a possibility to be
made perfect by the blood of Christ, which the blood of bulls and goats could not do: because by
one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy [note: holiness is
not to be assumed as automatically occurred on belief. Since we have these promises, dear friends, let
us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of
reverence for God. 2 Cor 7:1].

3) The third of scriptures quoted to justify impurity, sin, and imperfection starts with 1 John 1:8

John said: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. 1 John 1:7
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from
all unrighteousness.
If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. 1 John
1:8-10
When you examine these verses in lieu of the verses before and after these three, this is the meaning:
 We go to the Light (Jesus) to quietly listen and watch, hoping for purification by his blood and grace.
If we go claiming to be without sin, we deceive ourselves, have no humility, and get no help, the truth is
not in us.
If when he (the Light) shows us our sins and we confess them, he will forgive and purify us.
But, if when he (the Light) shows us our sins, and if we claim to be without the sin he has shown us,
thinking He is not the Truth, thinking whom we hear to be liar, we have thus failed to repent of our sins;
and His word fails to be planted in our heart, so that it can control us in the future. Thus we have
rejected Christ.
But if we accept his conviction [confess and repent] and Him [the Word or Light] as Truth, his word stays
in our heart to keep us from sin.
This is how we accept and "receive" Christ. We believe the Light that shows us our sins is Christ. We
believe in Jesus within.
Look at the very next verses below.

My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have
an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins,
and not for ours only but also for the whole world. Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep
His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is
a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God
is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in
Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 2:1-6
So if we obey the Word the we hear him say to us or what he shows us in
the Light,
(Jesus being the Light and the Word), and if we abide in Him, we are of the truth and
we know we are in Him.
and God's love is perfected in us; resulting in us walking as Jesus walked,
in love and truth.

The false prophets take 1 John 1:8 out of context: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us, and say that proves no one can ever be without sin; ignoring the
next statements and ignoring the context of the process of purification being referenced. To be purified
you have to have sin to start, or purification is not necessary. John is referencing sin that is to be
destroyed, not carried to the grave.

And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.1 John 3:3
Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 1 John3:5
Whosoever abides in him, sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. 1 John 3:6
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he
is righteous. 1 John 3:7
He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning.
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go
to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot
sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9
(And His seed are the words from his voice remaining in you, words heard, the Word
of God. Luke 8:14)
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother. 1 John 3:10

The sinful man with hope purifies himself as He is pure. The above describes the purification process.
And when he does, he no longer sins and has fellowship with Christ and the Father including seeing him.
So there is no conflict, just people quoting bible verses out of context.
They are just Bible lawyers trying to hold onto their false hope and pleading for sin, impurity,
and imperfection;
so they can justify their doing nothing while charging money for their false interpretations
and assurances of salvation.

3) The third scriptures frequently quoted to justify sin is in Romans 3:10-12 (this is the gospel of
grace with perpetual sin)

"There is no one righteous, not even one; Rom 3:10

there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. Rom 3:11
All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even
one." Rom 3:12
True! No one is righteous, no one decides to seek God themselves; God draws us to Himself. Therefore,
no one can boast.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law
we become conscious of sin. Rom 3:20
True! We cannot obtain righteousness by following the Law.
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and
the Prophets testify. Rom 3:21
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no
difference, Rom 3:22
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:23
Correct, righteousness comes through faith in Jesus, not the Law; but this is not
instant righteousness.

Paul clarifies: for we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. Gal. 5:5
and Paul further: you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads
to righteousness. Rom 6:16
And Jesus said, But seek (aim and strive after) first of all His kingdom and His righteousness. Mat 6:33
So, by faith we are given the right to approach God, seeking his grace; but we are not
instantly righteous.
Otherwise, we would not be told to seek, wait, obey, and hope for righteousness.
and Paul: Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this
to your shame. 1 Cor 15:34
These blind guides further speak of "imputed righteousness of Christ" to us, based on our faith; as it
was with Abraham.
True, Abraham received imputed righteousness even before he was circumcised. True, our faith is
imputed righteousness.
But he went on to be circumcised, just as we must receive the spiritual circumcision- our
heart circumcised from sin.
And Abraham exercised his faith to leave his home for a new land - which we must also do, spiritually go
to the kingdom of God.
We can't just sit around celebrating our imputed righteousness, which only gives us the right to
approach God for help.
No, we must go to Him to receive his cleansing grace to become righteous- the fruit of which is peace;
the effect of righteousness will be quietness and confidence forever. Isaiah 32:17
Imputed peace, quietness and confidence forever is the make-believe instant righteousness of make-
believe Christians.

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Rom 3:24
But this access to God does not make us instantly justified, for we seek to be justified in Christ.
Gal. 2:17

And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. Rom 11:6
Not of works, lest any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9
It is faith and grace that saves. We are not saved by works, but by grace. Very true!
But slaves of depravity twist grace to be instantly complete and to justify DOING NOTHING in faith
for salvation!.
Per Paul: Grace teaches what to deny and how to live in a godly way that leads to purity. Titus 2:11-14
These whitewashed false prophets have the audacity to claim that the cross and repentance is 'works;'
Going beyond ridiculous, they tell you if you do anything, you will loose your salvation by falling under
the law.
This is a malicious distortion of the truth, dreamed up by lazy, evil men, devoid of any sense of godliness.
Works without faith in Christ count for nothing with God. But works energized by faith in Christ
are essential.
Paul said, I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works
befitting repentance. Acts 26:20
The cross is only obedience, and those who oppose it are headed for destruction, for their god is their
belly. Phil 3:19
James said, "faith without works is dead." James 2:17
Paul further said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12
Again Paul said, grace results in a people zealous for good works. Titus 2:14
Jesus said, unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3. Repentance requires effort on
your part.
And, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19 (Zealous is -
ardent desire, enthusiastic).
Jesus further said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. Mat 11:29
Jesus said, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow
me. Luke 9:23
Jesus said, I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:2-3. Jesus wants perfect works.
So works are essential to realizing righteousness, purity, salvation, and the Kingdom - given to us
by faith and grace.

The blind guides say that since grace is free, there is NOTHING you need to do for salvation.
Free is free. Stay in sin. Don't worry! I say, true; grace is free, but salvation is not.
Paul said: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Acts 26:20
Salvation comes by the long process of the gifts of grace with faith that is evidenced by works, starting
with repentance.
We are saved by grace, as the sinful nature dies on the cross;
and our death is not evidence of being worthy of God's gifts - no, just the shame of being so unworthy.

Remember, Jesus told his disciples to preach repentance with remission of sins. Luke 24:47
False grace/salvation, keeps the forgiveness and throws away repentance, because they don't know how.
That is what this web site is dedicated to teaching: how to receive conviction requiring repentance,
and how to receive the cleansing, changing grace that leads to purity and the Kingdom of
Heaven, paradise while on earth.

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Rom 6:15
So grace, is not a license to continue to sin. We are not condemned while we are waiting to be cleansed,
but we have to continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Phi 2:12

But God be thanked, that you were the servants of sin,

but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Rom 6:17
(he is talking to people then free from sin, having obeyed the doctrine that made them free from sin)
Being then made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness. Rom 6:18
by obedience to the doctrine referred to in 6:17, they were made free from sin and servants to righteousness
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit
unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. Rom 6:22
You cannot serve God unless you are free from sin. Everlasting life comes after you have produced fruit
unto holiness.

And finally Paul says it all to conclusion:

For if you live after the flesh, you shall die:
but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live. Rom 8:13-14
and
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of
the flesh and spirit,
perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Corinthians 7:1
So there it is: perfecting holiness. I can't imagine a stronger requirement than being told to
be perfectly holy.
Persistent repentance will lead to truth, purity, holiness, and perfection.
This is not make-believe christianity, this is the real requirements of being a Christian.

Paul speaking to mature Christians who have been set free from sin and are enjoying holiness:
But now since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God,
you have your present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life. Rom 6:22

When you believe in the gospel of false grace/salvation, all the scriptures about repentance, putting
the misdeeds of the body to death,
purity, perfection, and holiness have to be ignored; or you have assume that you are pure and perfect
by make-believe.

See True Grace vs. False Grace for more detail.

4) The next scriptures quoted to support sin are in Job 4:18-19.

Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly: Job 4:18
How much less [in] them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation [is] in the dust, [which]
are crushed before the moth? Job 4,19
See, the Bible lawyers say, men can never be perfected on earth - why, even the angels are not worthy.
BUT This was Eliphaz speaking, who was arguing against Job's perfection, who was perfect as stated
by God.
And the angels he is referencing are the fallen angels, the devil and his demons.

In the same breath, they further quote Eliphaz, who was later severely rebuked by God for
criticizing perfect Job,

What is man, that he could be pure, or one born of woman that he could be righteous?
If God places no trust in his holy ones, if even the heavens are not pure in his eyes,
how much less man, who is vile and corrupt, who drinks up evil like water? Job 15:14-16

BUT! In Job 2:3 it says. "And the Lord said unto Satan, Have you considered my servant Job, that there
is none like him on the earth, a perfect and upright man, one that fears God, and escheweth
(shuns, abhors) evil? and still he holds fast his integrity, although you move me against him, to destroy
him without cause."

So here God calls Job perfect. And this was before Christ came and died for us.
How much easier is it with Christ's death and the Holy Spirit having been poured out on all mankind
since Pentecost?
William Penn expands on this easier perfection available since Christ's coming and Pentecost.
And with Christ, not only can you become pure easier,
but you can enter the Kingdom of Heaven, which the prophets of old longed look into.
 So they use false statements in the Bible, from men who were rebuked in the end of the book by God
for criticizing Job.
As God says in Job 42:7 "I am angry with you and your two friends,
because you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has."

5) The last scriptures used to justify continuing living is sin with no effort to change, is one of
Paul's statements below:

Philippians 3:12-14

Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect:

but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do,
forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before.

He said: Not as though I were already perfect, and I count not myself to have apprehended.
Paul is saying that he is not resting on his laurels. He is not sitting back in comfort of what he as attained.
Rather he presses on full that I may win Christ. That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection,
and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death. Phil 3:10

Let's assume he wasn't perfect and see if he ever made his goal.

Paul later said: I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in
me. Gal 2:20
So he finally won Christ and shared in his crucifixion, death, and resurrection - as was his goal.

and Paul also said he had been translated into the Kingdom of Heaven
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints
in light:
Who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into the kingdom of his
dear Son. Col 1:13
and he also said: flesh and blood cannot inherit or share in the kingdom of God. 1 Cor. 15:50

and he encourages others, including the Corinthians to be perfected.

Finally, brethren, farewell (rejoice)! Be strengthened (perfected, completed, made what you ought to be)
2 Cor 13:11

Now, consider the case that he was just being humble when he said: Not as though I were already perfect.
Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect. Phil 3:12
He did not say: I am not perfect.
He said, Not as though I were already perfect. He is talking about an attitude about being perfect.
This case is strongly supported in the next verses when he says:
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in anything you be otherwise
minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Phil 3:15
He is saying, as many of us as are perfect, don't consider yourself so; don't relax satisfied that you
have everything, rather press on.
Be like me, be humble, not boasting; and if you have a different opinion, God will straighten you out.

Why would Paul be reluctant to claim perfection? Because Paul was very careful to be humble.
It is dangerous not to be. It is even against a tenet of Love: Love does not boast! 1 Cor 13:4
He is advising the brothers not to boast about being perfect or even claim perfection, but to be like him,
and take notice of those who walk like him, considering themselves to have room for improvement
and growth.
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so, as you have us for an example. 1 Cor 13:17

He had further statements on boasting: I will not boast, except as regards my infirmities
(my weaknesses).
Should I desire to boast, I shall not be a witless braggart, for I shall be speaking the truth.
But I abstain so that no one may form a higher estimate of me than what he sees in me or hears
from me. 2 Cor 2:5-6

Remember, Paul was given a messenger of Satan to buffet him, to keep him from being proud:

And to keep me from being puffed up and too much elated by the exceeding greatness (preeminence)
of these revelations,
there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to rack and buffet and harass me, to
keep me from being excessively exalted.

Three times I called upon the Lord and besought about this and begged that it might depart from me;

But He said to me, My grace (My favor and loving-kindness and mercy) is enough for you; for My
strength and power are made perfect (fulfilled and completed) and show themselves
most effective in weakness. Therefore, I will all the more gladly glory in my weaknesses
 and infirmities, that the strength and power of Christ (the Messiah) may rest (yes, may pitch a tent
over and dwell) upon me! 2 Cor 12:7-9

God forbid that I should boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. Gal 6:14

There are other scriptures in Romans that people twist to try to prove Paul was a confessed perpetual
sinner, but that is because they get the tenses of his expressions mixed up. For example, in patiently
trying to explain how sin and salvation occur, he describes a condition before salvation as: What a
wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Rom 7:24. They say, see that proves
Paul still sinned and nobody can be perfect, while ignoring the context of his statement and also
ignoring his later statements, either of which totally negate such a conclusion. They twist the scriptures
to justify doing nothing, therefore assuring their destruction. Quoting Fox: ‘Paul, who cried out of the
body of death, did also "thank God, who gave him the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. " 1 Cor
15:57. So there was a time of crying out for want of victory, and a time of praising God for the victory.

Few would argue that Jesus wasn't perfect. Yet, when he was hailed "Good Teacher." Jesus answered,
"Why do you call me good? No one is good—except God alone." Luke 18:19 Even Jesus is reluctant to
call himself good or perfect. He challenged the Pharisees to show him a sin he had committed, but he
never boasted he was perfect - yet he tells us to: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is
in heaven is perfect. Mat 5:48

He who is perfect would never say he was perfect, for it is only God who can declare someone perfect, and
to say to someone you are perfect would not prove themselves perfect; only the the actions of their life,
their conversation, and their fruits testify to their 'perfection.' Just like Paul said above: I abstain
[from boasting of perfection] so that no one may form a higher estimate of me than what he sees in me
or hears from me.

So all of these scriptures cannot be used to say:

perfection is impossible, therefore, it is useless to try to attain it;

we must remain in sin until death;
Oh, we can try to be better, but we will never reach the goal of a sinless state.

People want to deny the possibility of perfection, to justify their imperfections and maintain their illusion
of being 'saved;' yet salvation's completion is simultaneously received after purification along with
the glorious Return of Jesus and entrance to the Kingdom of God, (see The Return of Jesus is
a Personal Experience). Such an attitude is excusemanship, ignoring the many, many verses that
testify to perfection. In addition to the many scriptures already cited as proof that perfection is
possible, starting with Job.

If you believe in the false "gospel of grace with no purity possible," all the scriptures about
mortifying, purity, perfection, and holiness have to be ignored; or you have assume that you are pure
and perfect by imputation, which is being a hypocrite in its most arrogant form. (see True Grace vs
False Grace)

From Abrose Rigge's Letter On True Christianity:

Christ has broken, and will yet go on to break, the covenant which many have made with death, i.e., to
be subjected to the reigning power of it, so long as they are on earth; and the agreement that they have
made with hell, to be under the servitude of sin, and bondage of corruption, all their lives, and never to
be freed from sin and corruption all their days, as thousands are seduced to believe.

Hereby the coming, suffering, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ, our complete savior
and Mediator, are made void and of none effect; and the blood of his cross counted a vain thing; which is
a great offence against God.

For, first, his coming and manifestation was to take away sin, 1 John 3:5. “Little children, let no man
deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous," verse 7. “Whoever abides
in him, sins not: whosoever sins, has not seen him, neither has known him," verse 6. “He that commits
sin, is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was
manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil," 1 John 3:8. “Whoever is born of God, sins not;
for his seed in him: neither can he sin, because he is born of God. In his are the children of God known,
and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness, is not of God, neither he that loves not
his brother," 1 John 3:9-10.

So they who plead for sin to continue in their mortal bodies during life, do oppose the benefit of his
coming and manifestation, which was to take away sin, and to finish transgression, 1 John 3:5, Heb 9:26,
1 Tim 1:15, Dan 9:24, and consequently of the benefit of his suffering, death, resurrection, and
ascension into glory; he being a perfect sacrifice for sin, and a Mediator, who has power to destroy him
that had the power of death, that is, the devil, Heb 2:14; “and deliver them who through fear of death
were all their lifetime subject to bondage," verse 15. "Who ascended far above all heavens, that he might
fill all things: and he gave some, apostles; some, prophets; some, evangelists; some, pastors and
teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of
Christ. Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect
man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ," Eph 4:10-13.

Thus they magnified him, who were true witnesses of the power of his death, and virtue of his
resurrection and ascension, by which they obtained victory over death, darkness, and the power of
the grave; and were made more than conquerors, through him that loved them, Rom 8:37. And gave
thanks to God, who had given them victory through Jesus Christ, and triumphed over death, and the sting
of it, which is sin, 1 Cor 15:55-57.

Secondly, those who believe that men must carry about with them a body of sin, while on earth, do, as
to themselves, make the circumcision and baptism of Christ of no effect, repugnant to the
apostle's testimony, Col 2:10-11. "You are complete in him, who is the head of all principality and power:
in which you are circumcised, with the circumcision made without hands; to the putting off the body of
the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ. Buried with him by baptism, in which also you are
risen with him, through the faith of the operation of God, who has raised him from the dead," Col 2:10-
12. And also John, though a minister of water baptism, yet testified of Christ, that “he should baptize
them with the Holy Ghost and with fire: whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his
floor [mark thoroughly] and gather his wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with
unquenchable fire," Mat 3:11-12. Here is a thorough separation, the wheat from the chaff; Christ's
baptism does not leave a body of sin in them who are baptized with it: for as "many as were baptized
into Christ, were baptized into his death; they were buried with him by baptism into his death; that like
as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father; so also they should walk in newness of
life. Knowing that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that
now forward we should not serve sin," Rom 6:3-6.

Thirdly, they who plead for the continuance of sin all a man's days, have made the blood of Christ of
no more value than the blood of bulls and goats, offered in the first covenant, sprinkling them that
were unclean, and which sanctifies as touching the purifying of the flesh. But how much more shall
the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit, offered himself without spot to God, purge
your consciences from dead works to serve the living God? Heb 9:13-14. Here was an inward purging of
the conscience from death and dead works, by virtue of the blood of Jesus. Here is the antitype of
Moses, sprinkling the people under the law, with water and the blood of calves and goats, with purple
wool and hysop; who sprinkled the tabernacle with blood, and all the ministering vessels, saying, “This is
the blood of the Testament which God has appointed unto you," Heb 9:19-21.

For if the blood of bulls and goats could have taken away sin, there had been no need of another
sacrifice: but finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come, said the Lord, when I will make a
new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah; not according to the covenant that
I made with their fathers, in the day when I took them by the hand, to lead them out of the land of
Egypt. Because they continued not in my covenant, I regarded them not, said the Lord."

“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; after those days, said the Lord, I will
put my laws in their minds, and write them in their hearts; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be
to me a people."

"And they shall not need to teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know
the Lord; for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest," Heb 8:8-11.

Here is known the blood of sprinkling, which speaks better things than that of Abel, and which is able
to cleanse from all sin, and sanctify throughout in body, soul and spirit; ending all the offerings
and sacrifices of the law and first covenant, which could not make the comers thereunto perfect,
as pertaining to the conscience, Heb 9:9. And therefore could not continue, but was disannulled, because
the weakness and ineffectiveness of it; being but shadows and types of the spiritual sprinkling,
sanctifying and purifying of the heart and conscience, by the blood of Jesus, the Lamb without spot, who
by "one offering perfected forever those who are sanctified," Heb 10:14.

Fourthly, they who plead for a body of sin, for term of life, make the circumcision of Christ of no value,
and Paul, that great minister of the true gospel, to bear a false testimony. He said to the Romans, who
were baptized into the death of Christ, which is a death unto sin; "Knowing this, that our old man
is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that from now on we should not serve
sin," Rom 6:6. “There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk
not after the flesh, but after the spirit: for the law of the Spirit of life, in Christ Jesus, has made me free
from the law of sin and death," Rom 8:2. “For while you were servants to sin, you were free
from righteousness; but now being free from sin, and made servants unto God, you have your fruit
unto holiness, and the end everlasting life,” Rom 6:20-22.
Fifthly, they who do not believe a freedom from sin on this side the grave, make the promise of Christ to
the Jews that believed in him, of none effect, who said, “If they continued in his word, then were they
his disciples indeed; and they should know the Truth, and the Truth should make them free," John 8:31-
32. "And if the Son (who is the Truth) make you free, then are you free indeed," v. 36.

This freedom, by the Son, is obtained by none but those who are given up to follow him and obey his
word, to whom he gives power, not only to be servants, but sons of God. Neither can any stand fast in
this freedom, but as they are daily supported by his power, in whom their freedom stands; this made
the apostle exhort the saints, who were born of the free woman by promise, to " stand fast therefore in
the liberty with which Christ has made them free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage,"
Gal 5:1. And to the Hebrews, “Forasmuch as the children were partakers of flesh and blood; he also
himself took part with them, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that
is the devil. And that he might deliver them, who through fear of death, were all their life time subject
to bondage."

Now a body of sin, all the life long, keeps the soul in bondage; from which bondage the Son of Man is
come to deliver. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who
has subjected the same in hope. Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage
of corruption, into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation
groans and travails in pain together, until now, Rom 8:21-22, that is, until the work of deliverance by
the Son of God was known, who was, and is able to save to the uttermost, all who come to God by
him; seeing he ever lives to make intercession for them, Heb 7:25. So he was and is a perfect savior to
save his people, disciples and followers from (mark from, not in) their sins, Mat 1:21.

Sixthly, they who deny perfection in this life, make the command of Christ of no force, Mat 5:48. Be
you perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. His command was to living men, not dead. Now if
this perfection is not attainable, the lip of Truth would not have commanded it; whose commands were
ever just, and not grievous, 1 John 5:3.

Seventhly, they who do not believe perfection in holiness on this side the grave, have undervalued, and
not truly believed, Christ's prayer, John 17:23, I in them, and you in me, that they may be made perfect
in one; and that the world may know that you have sent me, and have loved them, as you have loved
me. And also Paul's testimony to the Corinthians: And my speech and preaching was not with
enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power. That your faith should
not stand in the wisdom of man, but in the power of God. However we speak wisdom among them that
are perfect; yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nothing, 1
Cor 2:4-6. And in his second epistle, he exhorted them to press on to perfection, 2 Cor 13:11. And the
same apostle, writing to the Ephesians, speaks thus of Christ: He that descended, is the same also
that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. And he gave some, apostles;
some, prophets; some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers: for the perfecting of the saints, for
the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the
fullness of Christ, Eph 4:10-13.

Now these gifts are all void, and of none effect, with those who do not believe any perfection to be
witnessed in this life. It is a manifest token they know nothing of them, nor the work of the true
ministry, nor the gradual steps of all true gospel believers, towards the perfection of holiness, in the sight
of God, which all true followers of Christ are pressing forward to obtain, through the power and efficacy
of the life of Jesus, which is brought to light and manifested in mortal flesh, in our day, through the
gospel of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, which is a gospel of glad tidings; i. e., deliverance from
the slavery of sin and Satan, and perfect redemption, reconciliation and salvation, brought near to
every man's house, to be wrought in man by Christ, God's great workman. This all who truly believe in
him are living witnesses of; being made his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, that
we should walk in them; according to Eph 2:9-10. They only who are true witnesses of this work, can
praise the Lord, being made living members of that body, of which Christ is head, ruler and lawgiver.
They are not of this world, as he is not of this world; neither seek the honor or preferment of it; but are
as strangers and pilgrims in it. And though they are on earth, yet their conduct is in heaven; having the
seal of the Spirit of God, bearing witness with their spirits, that they are the sons and daughters of God.

This is the effect and fruit of the true gospel day, wrought and brought forth in all them who walk in it to
the end. These are not tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine, through the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness of those who lie in wait, for their ungodly gain, to deceive; but are born of that
elect seed, into which no deceiver can enter; and walk in the light of the Lamb, according to the prophecy
of John, Rev 21:23-24, in which is no night or shadow of death. These have the white stone, and a
new name, which no man knows but he who has it; and are clothed in white linen, which is the
Lamb's righteousness, put upon them by him who has wrought it in them; having oil in their own
lamps, and are ready to enter with the bridegroom, whenever he calls.

But let those consider of it who have not oil in their own lamps, but are forced to go to them that sell;
that they may read how such were entertained by the heavenly Bridegroom, Mat 25. “Then shall
the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet
the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their
lamps, and took no oil with them: but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While
the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold
the bridegroom cometh; go you out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise
answered, saying, Not so; for fear that there be not enough for us and you: but go you rather to them
that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that
were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterwards came also the other
virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not."

Now these were accounted virgins, and knew their duty in their life time, which was to have oil within,
to keep their lamps always burning to be ready to enter, whenever their soul's bridegroom came. But
the foolish did not, yet were sensible they wanted it, when the bridegroom came, and so went to buy of
them that sold. But oh! while they were gone, the door was shut, and they could not enter the
marriage-chamber. Oh! dread and fear this, all you who are gone out to buy, for fear that the door
of entrance be shut against you forever.

Eighthly, they who plead for sin and imperfection to remain, during all the days of their lives, have
thereby, to themselves, subverted the testimony of John, the beloved disciple, 1 John 4:17: Herein is our
love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as he is, so are we in
this world; [mark, in this world.] He did not say, welcome death to make us perfect, as some
imperfect workmen have done of late; attributing more power and virtue to a winding-sheet, than to
the blood of Jesus Christ, repugnant to the testimony of the saints and true believers, who in their
day testified, that if they walked in the light, as God is in the light, they had fellowship one with another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleansed them from all sin, 1 John 1:7. This John spoke in the
faith, which the believers were growing up into; which afterwards they witnessed, as I have noted above.

Ninthly, they who say, they cannot be made clean in this world, have no share in those blessings
which Christ pronounced, Mat 5:8: Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God: and, Blessed
are they who do hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled, verse 6.

Now none can be filled with righteousness, or witness a pure heart, while a body of sin remains; neither
can any be made partakers of the living faith, which purifies the heart, 1 Pet 1:22, Acts 15:9, 1 Tim 1:5,
while they continue in sin and unbelief, that they cannot be made pure in this world. And if not in
this world, it highly concerns every such, while they have a day, to consider when or where they shall
be made free and fit to enter the kingdom of heaven, where no unclean person can come, Eph 5:5, Isa
38:18, neither can death nor the grave praise the Lord, nor they that go down to the pit hope for his Truth.

Objection. But the great objection and plea, that many in our day have, is that in John, where he said: If
we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the Truth is not in us, 1 John 1:8, supposing,
that neither he, nor any of the holy men of God, either did, or ever was to know a better state and
condition, than continuing in sin all their days; which is a great mistake, and of dangerous consequence,
as all may see, who read 1 John 3:2-10: Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it does not yet appear
what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he
is. And every man that has this hope in him, purifies himself, even as he is pure. Whosoever commits
sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And you know that he was manifested
to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins has not
seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness
is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from
the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the
devil. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot
sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. And
1 John 4:17, Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because
as he is, so are we in this world.

Site Editor's Comments: Trying disprove the many scriptures which testify to perfection,
holiness, and purity, the false prophets point to 1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive
ourselves, and the Truth is not in us - taken out of context from accompanying scripture, as sin being
unconquerable in this life. John goes on to describe the process of how the blood of Christ purifies us
from all sin. We all start as sinners, but can be purified by Christ. See Purification how John describes
the process. See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God, for how to receive purification.

Here was perfection witnessed by them in this world, being made more than conquerors, through him
that loved them, Rom 8:37. And Paul writing unto the Romans, says: That as sin has reigned unto death,
so grace might reign through righteousness, unto eternal life, by Jesus Christ our Lord. What shall we
say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to
sin, live any longer therein? Rom 5:21, Rom 6:1.

And writing to the Ephesians, about the state of the church, he exhorted husbands to love their wives,
even as Christ loved his church, and gave himself for it; that he might sanctify and cleanse it, with
the washing of water, by the word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot,
or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it might be holy and without blemish, Eph 5:27.

This is the church of the first-born, which Paul testified of to the Hebrews, who were come unto mount
Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of
angels; to the general assembly and church of the first-born, which are written in heaven, and to God
the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, Heb 12:22-23.

And Jesus said unto his disciples: Behold, I give you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions, [within
a man] and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding
in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you, but rather rejoice because your names are written
in heaven. Here was perfect freedom to the church, who were made partakers of that precious faith,
which then was delivered to them, by which they had victory over death, hell and the grave, and were
made an habitation of God through the Spirit: Eph 2:19-22.

They were far from pleading for the continuance of sin during the whole course of their lives, as many in
our days are doing; who though they profess Christ in words, yet in works deny him, which is a sort
of atheism; and so their works give their words the lie; for it is not words, but works, that manifest
true faith, James 2:14-25. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
also, verse 26. They who are out of that faith which purifies the heart, and gives victory over the world,
and do not believe any victory on this side of the grave, their preaching is vain, and their faith vain, and
they are yet in their sins; and what is worse, will not believe any freedom from sin in this world. Christ is
not king, governor and bishop in the souls of such; neither have they part in him, who is the
resurrection and the life, because not washed and sanctified by him; for he said to Peter, if I wash you
not, you have no part with me, John 13:8-10.

Objection. But I have heard some affirm, that God allows sin, in the dearest of his children, to keep
them humble.

This is a doctrine of antichrist, and has not the least footing in the Holy scripture, neither was ever heard
of among the worst of the Jews' false prophets, that ever I heard or read. For if sin be the cause of
humility, Christ came in vain, who was the perfect pattern of humility, in whom was no sin, neither
was guile found in his mouth, 1 Pet 2:22.

But it is the power of God that deliveres man from sin, and keeps him in a daily humble frame of mind
and spirit, to be preserved through faith to the end of time. This made Paul, when his departure drew
near, not boastingly, but humbly to say: I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have
kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the
righteous Judge shall give me at that day; and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his
appearing, 2 Tim4:6-8. He had not the great work of salvation and victory to do at his departure out of
the world; but witnessed it done, and boldly testified it to Timothy, as some of his last words.

And Peter, when near his departure out of the world, having magnified the power of God, through
which they had escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust, exhorted the saints to
give diligence, to make their calling and election sure, 2 Pet 1:4-10. This could not be made while
sin remained in their mortal bodies; an end therefore was to be witnessed while they were on earth; for
king Hezekiah had before testified, that the Lord had delivered his soul from the pit of corruption, and
cast all his sins behind his back. For the grave cannot praise you, death cannot celebrate you; they that
go down into the pit cannot hope for your Truth, Isa 38:17-18. Now if death cannot celebrate the name of
the Lord, nor the grave praise him, as above, what a deplorable condition are they left in, who are
persuaded to believe, that they must have a body of sin until death, and can never be made free on this
side the grave? I leave this to God's witness in all consciences deeply to consider.

And further, I desire all who are for the continuance of sin during life, to discover, if they can, by the
Holy scripture, when and where men, and all mankind shall be thoroughly cleansed from it: whether
before death, at, or after it, between death and judgment; seeing that no unclean person, nor covetous
man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ, or of God, Eph 5:5-6. And John,
in the Revelation, testified, concerning the heavenly city, that there shall in no wise enter into it, any
thing that defiles or works abomination, or makes a lie; but they who are written in the Lamb's book of
life, Rev 21:27.

Objection. But some have objected and said, that if people be thoroughly cleansed from sin on this side
the grave, they need no Mediator or advocate.

The consequence is unjust, and falsely deduced. There is need of Christ as Mediator and advocate for
all mankind, for whom Christ prays or makes intercession, and that is both for transgressors and saints;
for the unsanctified and for the sanctified; for the first, that they may be sanctified; for the last, that
they may be preserved and kept from the evil: therefore there is need of Christ as advocate for all mankind.
Query, In what state may persons have the real benefit of Christ's mediation and intercession, in order
to receive forgiveness and salvation?

Answer. In a state of need thereof, and true desire thereafter; and when they do not harden their
hearts unto willful sinning. Christ makes intercession for men, while they have a day of visitation, in
which his Spirit strives with them. But as his Spirit will not always strive with men, if they persist
in rebellion; so Christ will not always intercede for them. There is a sin unto death (or a willful sinning
until death) for which there is no pardon obtained by sacrifice, advocate or mediator; seeing the apostle
to the Hebrews said: If we sin willfully, after we have received the knowledge of the Truth, there remains
no more sacrifice for sin: but a certain fearful looking for of judgment, and fiery indignation, which
shall devour the adversaries, Heb 10:26-27.

But there is a sin, not unto death, concerning which, John wrote to the little children, saying, My
little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not; and if any man sin, we have an advocate
with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, 1 John 2:1. For this sin, there is an advocate and mediator. If
any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for
them that sin not unto death.

Here the benefit of Christ's mediation and intercession, being our advocate with the Father, is received,
and not slighted or frustrated; for he said: The Son of man is as a man taking his journey into a far
country, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and
commanded the porter to watch. Watch you therefore, for you know not the day nor hour when the
master of the house cometh; at even, or at midnight, at cock-crowing, or in the morning: for fear
that coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you, I say unto all, Watch: Mark 13: 34-
37. Now there is no state on this side the grave, above a watchful state; for though the enemy is cast out
of the house, that is the heart, and it be swept and garnished; yet for want of watchfulness
and circumspection, the enemy takes to him seven other spirits, worse than himself, and they enter in
and dwell there, and the latter end of that man is worse than the first. When the unclean spirit is gone out
of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest; but finding none, he said, I will return unto my
house whence I came out, Luke 11:24-26.

Upon this account the apostle Peter exhorted the saints, to be sober and vigilant; because, said he,
your adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour; whom
resist, steadfast in the faith; knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are
in the world. But the God of all grace, who has called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that
you have suffered a while, make you perfect, Establish, strengthen, settle you, 1 Pet 5:8-10.

And Jude the apostle said: The angels that kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he
has reserved in everlasting chains, under darkness, unto the judgment of the great day, Jude 6. This
was written not to be imitated, but to excite watchfulness in all who are come to be made an habitation
of God, through the Spirit, that they may keep their habitations, and go no more forth to them who say,
lo, here is Christ; or lo there. Yes, if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth:
Behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not, Mat 24:26. For Christ within, the hope of glory, is
the portion of all who are not reprobates concerning the faith, 2 Cor 13:5-6. He dwells and walks in
his temple; and his sheep hear his voice, and follow him, John 10:3,27, but a stranger will they not follow.

But the sure your habitation and safe resting place is the name of the Lord; the righteous run into it, and
is safe: Pro 18:10. Here no devourer can come, nor ravenous beast enter; and those who continue to the
end therein, in faith, patience and well-doing, have immortality and everlasting life, being living witnesses
of the eternal purpose of God in sending his only begotten Son into the world, i.e. to finish
transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, according to
the prophecy of Daniel: Dan 9:24. Such have the benefit of his coming, and of his death, resurrection
and ascension, and know him their Mediator, to make intercession to the Father for them, day and
night: John 17:6-11, that they may be preserved from all sin.

Perfection of freedom from sin in this world, can never be witnessed by any, but by them who receive
Christ, as the Father has given him, with faith and full assurance, that he is both willing and able to
finish transgression in every soul, and to bring in, and fill it with everlasting righteousness, in place
and stead thereof; and to save to the uttermost all who obey him, and come to God by him. And by
his obedience, all who follow him therein to the end, are sanctified and purified, and shall be glorified
with the glory which he is pleased to give them; and so are made his jewels, fit to be gathered into
his treasury forever. These are witnesses of the end of their faith, even the salvation of their souls; and
able to put their seal to the benefit of the coming, suffering, death, resurrection and ascension of
Christ, their mediator and advocate: and therefore perfection and freedom from sin must be believed,
and pressed after in this life, or else it can never be truly known or attained unto; nor the benefits of
the coming, death, resurrection and ascension of Christ Jesus received.

Therefore, woe to that grand enemy of mankind, who has blinded the world from seeing and believing
those things which belong to their everlasting felicity; but persuades them, and overpowers them to
spend their days in vanity, and to go down to the grave with sorrow, and die in their sins and pollutions,
as Christ told the Jews, John 8: 21-24: If you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins; and if
you die in your sins, wherever I go, you cannot come.

Now the outward Jews, who would not believe him in his outward appearance, and therefore shut the
door of entrance into the kingdom of God against themselves, died in their sins, not believing the benefits
of his coming, offering, resurrection, or ascension. So let the outward Christians now beware, for fear that
by rejecting, and not receiving him in his inward and spiritual appearance, they shut the door of
entrance into the kingdom, against themselves; and give up to be captivated under the power of sin
and Satan all their days; for God will not be mocked, neither will his Spirit always strive, nor offer itself
to give knowledge of the secrets of God to mortals ¡ but the day of their visitation will come to an end |
and then they shall cry, and he will not hear; and seek death, and shall not find it.

For the great God of Israel has sent his only begotten into the world, in his spiritual appearance, to fulfill
the law, and to finish transgression, and to bring in everlasting righteousness; and all who will receive
him, and give up to follow him in the regeneration, he will give them power to become the sons
and daughters of God; and give them the spirit of adoption, to enable them to cry, Abba, Father; they are
not of the world, even as he is not of the world, therefore the world hates them.

And now let all who believe no better than that they must be under the bondage of corruption all the
days they have to live on earth, seriously weigh and consider, when or where they shall be made free,
seeing no unclean person can ever enter the kingdom of God, Eph 5:5. And let the learned rabbis
resolve them, if they can; for it highly concerns them, that their day may not end, before their work be
done, and the night come upon them, in which no man can work.

It is not the profession of Christianity, but the work of it in the soul, that renders mankind good
and acceptable in the sight of God. I shall only set down a few, among the many testimonies which
were given by the ancient primitive Christians, many ages ago( left upon record to this day,
namely; Clemens of Alexandria gave this short account of them: "No man is with us a Christian,
or accounted truly rich, temperate and generous, but he that is pious and religious; nor does any
further bear the image of God, than he speaks and believes what is just and holy; so that in short is the
state of us who follow God. Such as are our desires, such are our discourses, such as are our discourses,
such are our actions: such as are our actions; such is our life: so universally good is the whole life
of Christians. Certainly none were greater enemies to a naked profession, and the covering of a bad
life, under the title of Christianity! Do any live otherwise than Christ has commanded? [If so,] it is a
most certain argument they are no Christians, though with their tongues they ever so smoothly profess
the Christian doctrine; for it is not merely professors, but those who live according to their profession,
that shall be saved; as Justin Martyr declared before the emperors.—Primitive Christianity, Part 1. c. 4.

Let no man, says Basil, impose upon himself with inconsiderate words, saying, though I be a sinner, yet I
am a Christian; and I hope that title shall be my shelter. But listen sinner, all wicked men shall be
bundled up together, and iti the great day of divine vengeance shall be indifferently thrown into
those merciless and devouring flames."—Prim. Christ. Part 1. fol. 82. с. 4.

Now was corruption creeping into the profession of Christianity; but the upright among them saw it,
and gave an early testimony against it; but yet it was not grown to that height of presumption, to plead
for the continuance of a body of sin all their days; that came in by degrees afterward, in the midnight
of darkness and apostasy from the life of Jesus, our complete savior from sin.

Out of this corruption, the pope sprang, who assumed the honorable title of Christian, and high father,
or father of fathers therein: but falling later in the apostasy, [the church] was overwhelmed with
more corruption, and set up those things, which the more pure and primitive Christians decried
and abhorred; which are too large to mention here.

Being under the bondage of corruption, and ignorant of the power of God, and the sufficiency thereof,
to deliver the soul from the pit of corruption in this life, [the false church] concluded that all mankind
must carry about them a body of sin all their days. Then did the enemy step in with another delusion,
more subtle than before, and put them upon an invention of a purgatory, or a place of cleansing from
sin, between death and the day of judgment, which there is not the least color in the Holy scriptures
to justify. But the nobility of the people's understandings being clouded with darkness, this was
received among them for orthodox, and is to this day among thousands, who err, not knowing
the scriptures, nor the power of God.

And now, my dear friends and countrymen, into whose hands this may come, let moderation and the fear
of God attend you in the reading of it; as the love of God, and bowels of compassion to you, has attended
me in writing of it. That notwithstanding the subject matter herein contained has been written by
some before, yet I could not be clear, not knowing how short my time may be in this world, but leave
a testimony also of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, in spirit, in this latter age of the world, to work
his Father's will in every soul, which is sanctification, and redemption from sin, death, darkness, und
the power of the grave; of which, in my little measure, I have been an eye witness many years; not
proposing any outward benefit or advantage to myself in writing it; but the good and well-being of
 mankind, that they may come to the knowledge of the Truth by which they may be made free and be
saved, through faith in the Son of God, while they live; and that they may see, and be made partakers of
the benefit of the spiritual appearance and work of the Just One; of which all the prophets, from Moses,
bore testimony. His coming, in these latter days, has discovered the workings of Satan, in the long and
dark night of apostacy, which have been over the world, since the apostles' days, with all deceivableness
of unrighteousness; in which the false church has decked herself with pretences to the jewels of the true,
and has set as a queen, arrayed in fine outward garments, pleasant and delightful to the outward eye;
and also her golden cup, engaging to the carnal mind and affection; and her temple, like those which
Origen, the ancient Christian, testified against among the Egyptians: " When you approach, says he,
their sacred places, they have glorious groves and chapels, temples with goodly gates and stately
porticos, and many mysteries and religious ceremonies; but when once you are entered, and got within
their temples, you shall see nothing desirable there,... But like the woman, which John testified of, who
was arrayed in purple, and scarlet colour, decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a
golden cup in her hand, full of abominations, and filthiness: and upon her forehead is written,
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, AND ABOMINATIONS OP
THE EARTH, Rev 17:4-5."—Prim. Chris. Part 1.p.1.

Nevertheless, many have been in love with her, delighting to drink of her cup, who could not see her
inside. But now the great Searcher of hearts is come, and the flying roll of his wrath is entering, and
will more and more enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of the false-witness-bearer, who
say: Thus said the Lord, and the Lord never spoke to them, and shall destroy it, with the stones and
timber thereof: the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken it, and it shall come to pass in its season:
Zech 5:4. But Zion, which has been as a widow forsaken, shall become as a fruitful hill, and shall no more
be called desolate, nor forsaken, but shall put on her beautiful garments; and the Lamb and his
followers shall dwell there, where shall be no night, or shadow of death; and Jerusalem shall be a
quiet habitation, salvation shall be for walls and bulwarks, and the entrance thereof praise; there is
no temple there, but the Lamb, henceforth and forever. Written in the bowels of love and compassion to
the souls of people every where, that they may know the seed of God to arise, and bring forth
righteousness in them, by a lover of all mankind.

AMBROSE RIGGE

Riegate in Surrey, the 22nd of the Tenth month, 1702.

So the false grace doctrines are based on "cherry picking" a few verses from the Bible, while ignoring
the preponderance of other verses throughout the Bible that totally change their meaning considered
alone; they excuse evil to good, they make black white, they don't know their left hand from their right
hand; and they ask you to pay them money for their error. They were taught by Bible Colleges rather
that Christ himself. See a few of George Fox's writings on these blind guides.

They want to sit and do nothing, saying: to do anything, even to pick up your cross daily and deny
yourself, is "works" to them. So they spew out their selective Bible verses pleading for doing nothing,
even saying repentance is "works" too. Of course you cannot be saved by works, but your faith must
be evidenced by far more than a claim you are saved by faith, doing nothing but shouting your claim;
James said, "faith without works is dead." The cross is not trying to be saved by "works;" it is evidence
of your faith by your obedience; and to those who oppose it, they are headed for destruction,
for their god is their belly [their lusts and affections].

They say there is no hearing of Christ's words from heaven today, and then absurdly state if you were
to write down what you hear Christ say to you, you are guilty of adding words to the Bible,
for it says so in Revelations:

For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add
unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book
of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:18-9

The book referred to above is the Book of Revelations, not the Bible. When John wrote the Book
of Revelations, 2000 years ago, the various letters and books of the Bibles had not even been selected
for inclusion, much less assembled together, and not even printed until 1516. These people, in their
arrogant ignorance, have condemned Peter, Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Jude, and James for
adding words to the Torah, much of the Old Testament, which was the Bible then in use at the time
that John wrote the Book of Revelations. These modern scribes are classic illustrations of the folk proverb:
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. They worship the Bible as the Word of God, instead of
worshiping the Living Word of God, Christ. Even the Bible speaks of scriptures and Word of God
differently. They are denying God still speaks. They say Bible is the final word of God, and a closed
book; they say he no longer speaks. They perish for lack of knowledge. They are stone deaf and totally
blind. The Bible is the letter. The letter kills, the Spirit gives life.

In Hebrews it is said, "today, if you hear his voice from heaven, do not harden your hearts." And
Paul says that grace teaches us to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world. Paul
further reminds us, "But what does it (scripture) say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth
and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming. Rom 10:8. The Spirit is in your
mouth and your heart, not scriptures. When Paul said this, the New Testament didn't even exist. He said
he was not taught by man, but through direct revelation by Jesus Christ. The Word is Christ within you,
the Light that enlightens all men, patiently waiting to teach and reveal himself to you also.

Yes, God speaks through the Living Word, Christ (See Jesus wants to teach you himself). The Bible is not
the Living Word, Christ. The Bible is the words of the saints who wrote down their words. Christ still
speaks to us. He is the Light that lights all men. How can grace teach us unless we listen? You must be
quiet to hear him. Remember, he knows what you are going to ask before you form the thoughts; he
knows your needs; he knows what you want; he will answer your needs, but maybe not all your wants.
You don't even need to form words for him to know everything you want. Of course, we often can't
help ourselves and must pour out our words to Him; but remember, silence will communicate too; plus
you can then hear what he has to say to you.

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There is a huge pitfall in Christianity: thinking the Bible is the Word of God, and
thinking all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer to the
Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to
From the Voice of the Lord the Word of God speaking to you. If you don't listen to the Voice of God, you
will never grow; you will never know from what to repent; you will never receive his
"Welcome to my site. changing, purifying grace; you will not find God; and you will not have any reward in
the Kingdom of God or Christ. You can memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter
Are you ready to see your sins?
and verse, and it will gain you nothing with God. It is easy to read the Bible. It often
feels good to read the Bible, as long as you discount all the requirements such as
The cross is offered to all. Are you ready to holiness, perfection, and purity while ignoring the disqualifications of anger, lust,
suffer the shame, the pain, and the blood of the immorality, impurity, greed, etc. The Bible wasn't even printed until 1515, but the
cross - early church thrived for 300 plus years without it. Like many in the early church,
or do you cry out with indifference? even if you can't read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of
Heaven as a son of God forever - by listening to God's voice and obeying it. For he
Yes, it is your birthday -
calls us all to repentance, Christhood, and the Kingdom of Heaven.
as many as are at their savior's feet.
Hear this! Understand, the Bible is not the Word of God, for the many
There are six things I will put in order in front of scriptures that refer to the Word of God are not referring to the Bible, but rather to
your eyes: the voice of God or the Lord - his words from him, the living spirit Word - otherwise
1-how evil proceeds out of the heart, you are looking to the wrong source of growth - a book, instead of God's spirit, who
2-and goes forth out of the mouth. desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible. The Holy Spirit will teach
3-how your heart longs for evil. you all things. John 14:26. He desires to teach you individual, personal things about
4-how your feet are swift to run to evil. yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants
5-how your heart builds a strong tower as a you to deny - as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the
bulwark of defense. scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible,
6-how your heart is a mirror of the world. you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

As many as I love, I chastise.
This is the Word of the Lord to you all:
He who is not on the cross is repulsive to me.
The Bible is the recorded words of the saints as they were moved by the Holy Spirit of
God to write. Christ is the Word of God, not the Bible. The Bible has His recorded
words in them, but they are words without spirit.
There is no conflict with what the Spirit of God has written and what the Spirit of
God will speak to you; but recorded words are the letter that kills; not the spirit,

There has never been a time like now; all men will
twist in the earth.
If those who hear, will obey, their progress will be
swift.
Who have become Quakers are an anathema. They
blot my efforts. They cumber the ground.
The early Quaker writings are a rich heritage which
we all must strive to fully understand.
Proverbs: we must all believe the hidden comforts
in those proven words.
Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Make no provision for the flesh.
I am against the shepherds, who have prophesied a
false salvation.
They have gutted what Jesus had to say.
You are my disciple, if you do what I say.
Hear the word of the Lord from within.
Draw your arms around Him - take heed you
incarnate.
Every man should retire to his own house until the
foundations of the world are destroyed.
The sons of the fathers went to sleep.
Beware of false prophets.
What is necessary for salvation? -- obedience to
commands heard.
which gives life. When Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter and Paul spoke of the
scriptures, they used the word 'scriptures,' not the Word of God. The Bible refers to
the Word of God as spoken or spirit, which is living and active, Heb 4:12.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active.
The Bible is not living and active, but words that I speak to you are spirit, and they
are life. John 6:63
So the Word of God is the Living Word, Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Voice of the Lord.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates dividing soul and
spirit, joints and marrow;
A book, or words read from a book cannot divide soul and spirit, but Christ, the
Living Word of God does.
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
The Bible cannot judge your heart; but Christ, the Word of God, can and
does!
The Bible is not the Word of God. It is not living or active. It cannot judge your heart,
penetrate you, or change you.
And out of his mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations:
Rev 19:15
This is Jesus. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of
God. Rev. 19:13
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Eph 6:17
So, the sword of the spirit is not the Bible, it is the spoken words from the mouth by
the Spirit of Christ, the Word of God.
Look at how the Amplified Bible describes and clarifies the Word of God: For the
Word that God speaks is alive and full of power; it is sharper than any two-edged
sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the breath of life (soul) and spirit, and of
joints and marrow, exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very
thoughts and purposes of the heart. Heb 4:12
And the Spirit, which gave forth the words, is greater than the words; therefore, we
cannot but prize Him himself, and set Him higher in our heart and thoughts, than
the words which testify of Him, though they also are very sweet and precious to our
taste. - Isaac Penington, 1670

When you have heard the dead words in the Bible,
and recall them, heed what is said.
Ears must hear -- Faith within purifies.
Believe you are hearing the Son of God.
When you cast my warnings behind you, this erases
the fear we must have.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God. John 1:1
It is ignorance for you to say that the letter (Bible) is the word; when the
letter (Bible) says, God is the word.
And worse, to believe the Bible is the Word, is to mistake references in the Bible to
the Word as the Bible instead of His voice -
a critical difference in understanding of what God expects from you and
how to please God.

If you love me, you will obey me.
Pay not, heed not, and I will come upon you as a
thief in the night.
Listen to and obey my voice, and I will be your God.
The King is where he is king.
Strive to enter through the narrow gate. Few will
find it. Men have stopped trying.
They have plunged themselves into iniquity."
Thus said the Lord God.
Let me illustrate the problem, with just three of many verses that will be totally
misapplied, if you think the Word is the Bible:
Jesus said: Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it! Luk 11:28
Jesus said: My mother and brothers are those who hear the word of God and put it
into practice. Luk 8:21
If you think this means hearing someone read the Bible, you have missed
the possibility of seeking to hear from God yourself. You will have
missed the blessing. You will have missed salvation. You must seek, listen,
and obey to find any blessing from God. Paul is not talking about Christ sanctifying
his Church with the Bible, when he says: That he might sanctify and cleanse it with
the washing of water by the word. You must go to him, listen, hear and obey
continually, to be cleansed or ever be sanctified. There are many other examples of
the problem detailed below.

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Mat 7:21
Everyone will be banned from heaven unless they do the will of the
Father.
And how is one to do the will of the Father, thus to not be banned.?
Then there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,
"This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him!”
Luk 9:35
So you must come to Jesus, silently listen, hear him speak to you, and then obey what he commands
you to do. Come, listen, hear, obey.

Jesus never said you could be saved if you say the sinners' prayer, or be baptised with water, or eat
bread and drink grape juice; this is just heathenish ritual, the wide and broad way of that leads
to destruction. Yet he did say: all who practice lawlessness with be gathered out of His
Kingdom of and cast into the fire, where there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-
42. And He told us: Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

Jesus significantly strengthened the law, definining a much higher level of righteousness required:
He changed eye for an eye, to turn the other cheek; love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good
to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
William Dewsbury He made adultery, not just the act, but looking at a woman with lust in your heart.
Early Quaker Notable He made murder, not just the act, but the anger and hate in your heart. He told us not to repay injury
Biography or insult.
Letters of Encouragment He told us that restraint of sin was not enough; that our hearts must be cleansed of the desire or
inclination to sin.
Messages Direct
Christendom ignores all of Jesus' commands. They have discarded his teachings, being indifferent to them.
from the Lord
Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? [But he tells us how to
be successful.]
For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he
is like:
He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock;
he who merely hears and does not practice doing My words is like a man who built a
house on the ground without a foundation,
against which the torrent burst, and immediately it collapsed and fell, and the breaking and ruin of
that house was great. Luke 6:46-49

Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your
hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8
Who do you think James was writing to? He was writing to those in the churches, still captive to sin.
Notice he says draw near to God. God is not found in sect meetings. God is not found in reading scriptures.
You must go to him. You must wait on him - listen silently, with the humility of a sinner in need of
his changing power - grace.
Seek, listen, obey..seek, listen, obey.....seek, listen, obey. Come, listen, hear, obey. Come, listen,
hear, obey.

Thinking the Bible is the Word, leads you to depend on reading and studying the Bible;
rather listening and obeying, Jesus the Word, who the book points you to.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the
One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14 (This word is clearly not the
Bible, it is Christ, the Word of God.)

Just as John the Baptist was not the Light, only bore witness of the Light to come; so the Bible is not
the word, but bears witness of the Word of God, Jesus Christ.

The Holy Spirit can reveal understandings in any language; but Bible Colleges teach from Hebrew,
Greek, and Latin Biblical texts, desperately trying to discover the true meaning of the scriptures. If the
Holy Spirit were helping in Bible study, Greek, Hebrew, and Latin would not be needed, proving Jesus
and the Holy Spirit do not teach you while reading the Bible.

In 1515, before the Bible was published, there were far less than 100 sects in Christendom. Five
hundred years of Bible study later, there are 30,000 sects. It is man's fleshly mind, rather than the
Holy Spirit, that controls learning from Bible study; for the Holy Spirit's purpose is to have
oneness of faith; yet there are 30,000 sects in Christendom, each with a different set of beliefs in how
to please God, how to worship God, how to seek God - 30,000 different gospels, 30,000 different Jesus.
This is massive evidence that studying the Bible creates the opposite of what the Holy
Spirit desires, (one faith) and does not result in truth. Instead of Bible study, we need to be taught
directly by the Holy Spirit [by listening] who desires to teach us all things. John 14:26

Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4
(There is no life without hearing words from the mouth of God.)

But we have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear - to make
any spiritual progress.

He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
(And how do you obey Him to attain salvation?)
Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

The Bible, my favorite book, is wonderful, and has many truths within, and it is great
for understanding what is sin, what God requires from us, identifying His promises that result from
seeking Him, and good for building our hope to attain His promises; but it does not teach us, convict
us, tell us what to repent from, encourage us, convince us of righteousness, purify us, tell us how to
live, speak to us in exact language we understand, speak to our specific conditions, show us the secrets
of our hearts, give us personalized commands, judge us, tell us it loves us, or take us to paradise - which
the Spirit of God, Jesus, who is the Word of God, does.

The Bible is the letter. The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 2 Cor 3:6

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are
seen were not made of things which do appear. Heb 11:3. To think the Bible framed the worlds
is ridiculous, so to call the Bible the word is also.

From George Fox's Journal, Concerning the 'Word'

In the beginning was the word, and none know this word, but those who have come to the beginning.
Now all you people and all you ministers, who of you can witness this? Who of you has come to
this position? Who of you has come to the beginning? We declare unto you what our hands have
handled and what our eyes have seen, what was from the beginning, the word of life. We who know
this word are pure, are made clean by the word, are sanctified by the word, are cut to pieces by the
word, and are divided asunder by the word. This word is a hammer, beating down everything that the
seed of God may raise up [discover], and we have come to the beginning. All who know this word have
come into the beginning. It is as a fire, burning up all corruptions; and this is the word that is near you,
in your heart.

This is the word by which all the prophets spoke, and this is the word that became flesh and dwelt
among us, (said the saints). This is the word of life, which the apostles preached, the substance of all
figures, types and shadows. This is the word, which makes all the saints one, that reconciles all their
hearts together to the Lord. This is the word by which all things stand and remain and are upheld by
his word and power. This is the word which endures forever. All, who are born again of the immortal
seed, witness this word along with me. Now the word is made manifest [shown] the same as it ever
was, which gathers together the hearts of people, which divides asunder the precious and the vile, and of
the two, [destroying the vile] has made one. This is the word that lets you see that all flesh is grass.

This is the word that was before any Letter [scripture] was written. All who do not have this word, put
the Letter [Bible] for the word, and are in Cain's nature, envying and murdering, running on swiftly to
evil. God does not accept Cain's sacrifice. All your preaching, all your praying, all your reading, all
your singing and expounding, all your churches, all your worships, all your teachers, and all your baptisms
- these are inventions from the Letter [Bible] as invented and imagined by your carnal minds - these are
all for the fire. Your profession must be gathered together in bundles and cast into the fire for they are
all works of the flesh, proceeding from the first nature.

Those of you who live in the first nature, not knowing the word of God, but only the Letter [only
have knowledge from the Bible]; you crucify the just, and you get up into the just's place, quenching the
light within you, with the deceit transforming into the just's place, as Cain did when he slew his
brother Abel. He got up into his brother's place and said, 'Am I my brother's keeper?' So all of you,
who crucify the just, you are like Cain, for it is the righteous that God accepts, the second birth. As you
read, Cain's sacrifice was not accepted by God, but Able (the second birth) God did accept, for he
was righteous. Cain murdered Able because Abel's works were righteous, and Cain's were evil. Now all
of you, who are in the first birth, are Cain, in envy; manslayers, and God does not accept your sacrifice.
Now all that come to the word, come to before Cain was.

All the prophets of the Lord spoke from this word, and then the false prophets got the true prophets' form
of word, but did not have the word. Then the Lord sent his prophets, who had his word, to cry against
the prophets that "speak a divination from their own brain and steal my word from their neighbor."
They use their tongues and said, "the Lord said," when the Lord had not spoken to them. As it was then, so
it is now. All the [religious] teachers of the world speak a divination of their own brain, and not from
the mouth of the Lord. The Lord is against them. Now I witness this by the same word as it ever was. So
they draw people to the Letter [Bible], and tell people the Letter [Bible] is the word, and to listen to
them, who speak from their vain imaginations what it means. So they bear rule by their means over the
poor people, which the Lord was always against.

For God is free and will have his people to be free, and his gospel is free, and his mercies are free, and
his grace is free. His gospel is free to every creature, and his grace is free to every creature. His grace is
not the Letter [Bible]; the gospel is not the Letter [Bible]; his glad tidings are not the Letter. For many
poor troubled souls may be under death and condemnation, while they have the Letter; and there
lie wounded with no peace, until Jesus brings the glad tidings of the free gospel. Then you will witness
with me that the gospel is a free gospel, and not to be bought and sold for money, and that the grace of
God is free. Listen, everyone that thirsts, come to the water of life; he that has no money, come buy wine
and milk without money and without price; and listen diligently so that your souls may live, and I will
make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. So all people consider, and see
if you can witness your souls raised out of death, and your being brought into this everlasting covenant.

So who can witness their souls brought out of death? Have you come into the beginning? But you
have nothing but the Letter, [Bible] and you are spending your money and labor without being
satisfied; spending your money for that which is not bread. You are following greedy, dumb dogs, who
can never get enough. They are Baal's priests, who have forsaken the right way, going after the error
of Baalam, running after the way of Cain, who loved the wages of unrighteousness, who always murder
the just, despising the birthright in the particular. Like Cain, slaying the righteous, who slays it in
the particular; the same nature slays in the general, where the righteous seed guides, rules, and is the
head. So the generation of Cain is but one, which is the first birth. Now loving the Light, it will guide
you from all men, so that you will never have to look to man again for guidance or teaching.

George Fox

Written in 1652
(to read more of Fox's basic message click here.)

So Jesus, and his Spirit, is the Word of God, not the

Bible! Thinking the Bible to be the Word of God is a
dangerous invention of man. The danger of misinterpretation
is clarified below on this page.

Come unto me.. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; ...
Mat 11:28-29
 Mark! He did not say: come to Bible Study or come to church.
Are you a friend of Jesus? He said Come to Me and Learn of Me.

You are my friends,

Jesus himself distinguished between the scriptures
if you do what I command.
(the Bible) and the Word, when addressing the Bible
John 15:14
scholars and Bible students of his day, the Pharisees, in John
Do you love Jesus? as below:

If anyone loves me, he will You have neither heard the Father's voice nor seen his form.
obey my teaching. But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He
sent, Him you do not believe.
[click to see Obeying You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have
Commands ] eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. John 5:37-39
Here Jesus clearly states a difference between the word
and scriptures, (the bible)
And the Word from his Voice that abides, (lives), in you is clearly better than scriptures.
Paul said, The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart. Rom 10:8
Clearly, the Bible is not in our heart and mouth; it is the spirit of God, the Word of God.
The Word of God is Spirit: Spirit of God, or Holy Spirit, or Spirit of Christ within each of us, where it
lives or abides.

Furthermore, Jesus is not happy: You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40
He is telling people that they substitute studying the Bible for coming directly to him; the Bible only
testifies about him.
And they think studying the Bible to find eternal life, but the way to eternal life is to go directly to him.
The words we hear are words of eternal life, not the words we read or hear read from of the Bible.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
So, to have eternal life, we have to listen to the Voice of the Lord and obey his spoken words with spirit to us.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. The Bible only testifies of the way, the truth, and the Life.
If we want the way, or truth, or life; we have to go to him.
He wants us to seek Him, not seek knowledge about him from the Bible.
The way to seek God is to go to him, listen to him, and treasure the words we hear him speak to us.
We have made learning scriptures a rival to learning directly from God by Coming to Him.
But scriptures are not wrong; it is the way we idolize scriptures that is wrong.
Instead of studying the Bible, prayer groups, and church socials - he wants us to Come to Him.
For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words, (Listen to Him speak to you) Luke 6:47-8
Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry, John 6:35
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40

You have neither heard the Father's voice nor seen his form. John 5:37
To hear the Father's voice is to hear him speak words.
But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. John 5:38
Jesus says that hearing the voice is very important to having his Word abide in us.
If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will
set you free. John 8:31-32
The Bible is not the Word to abide in and is not the truth. Jesus is the Truth. Words spoken by God
with Spirit are truth.
Jesus told us in his prayer to the Father: Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17
He said that the Father's words are truth; words we hear from the Father's voice, or Jesus' voice, or
the Spirit of Truth.
..so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him as the truth is
in Jesus. Eph 4:20-21
I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth. John 15:26. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things.
John 14:26
If we abide in Christ's word,[the spirit], we are his true disciples and we will know the truth.
Words from the Bible are without spirit and are not directed at your exact condition and need.
When the Spirit of God speaks to us, it speaks to our exact condition and exactly what we need to know.
This is how we seek God. We seek to hear his voice and then treasure what we hear, and obey what he
tells us to do.

Reading and studying the Bible is not seeking God, or abiding in Him.
Reading the Bible is a work of the flesh, which profits nothing.
Reading the Bible is like studying the Law. Voice of the Lord
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
The Bible wasn't even printed until 1515, but the early Church thrived until 320 AD.
Man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4
This is indisputably not the Bible. We are to live on words that come from the mouth of God! NOT
the Bible.
And we need words from the mouth of God, daily. We need our daily bread from heaven - words from
his mouth.
Jesus said, I am the bread of life: he that comes to me shall never hunger. John 6:35. Listen and live.
whoever continues to feed on Me shall live through and because of Me.John 6:57
Give us this day our daily bread - the words that Jesus speaks to us.
Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures unto life eternal.John 6:27
You need no teacher other than the anointing within you, which teaches you all things. John 2:27
That which may be known of God is manifest [revealed] within them for God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:19
 (Paul is saying, whatever is to be learned about God is to be revealed within a man - by Christ, the Light
in all men.)
Do you not yourselves know that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are disqualified? 2 Cor 13:5

The voice of the Lord told me, "The world hides in the Bible." The world hides from God in the Bible.
Reading the Bible is a substitute for having God teach you, examine your heart, convict you, and
cleanse you.
The world hides from Christ, the Living Word who judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
It hides from Christ the Light, who brings to light what is hidden in darkness and exposes the motives
of men's hearts. 1 Cor 4:5
How sad that we think we are seeking God by reading the Bible, but He sees us as hiding from Him.
We are covering our nakedness with the Bible and hiding in the tree of knowledge. Gen 3:8-10
"I say this to your shame. Though you have great knowledge of the scriptures
and profess them, you don't possess of whom they speak." (voice of the Lord)
You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life, and these are they which
testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
The words we hear are words of eternal life.
But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. John 5:38
When we hear his voice and keep his words, then his word abides in us. It lives in us, and
controls us.
As his words live in us and control us, we are set free from sin, and we obtain eternal life. We possess Jesus.
He who feeds on My flesh and drinks My blood dwells continually in Me, and I in him. John 6:56
God is Word and Spirit. He is word made flesh. We must feed on his words: to listen,
and obey.
We must drink his Spirit of gentleness, kindness, peace, and love by which the words
are spoken.
Just as the living Father sent Me and I live by (through, because of) the Father,
even so whoever continues to feed on Me shall live through and because of Me.
He who takes this Bread for his food shall live forever. John 6:57-8
This is how to possess of whom the scriptures speak, to possess Jesus.

Some say that since the words in the Bible are Christ's, to read them is the same as to have heard him speak them.
“The words I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life;” he does not say the words as written, much less the scriptures or writings,
are spirit and life. When Christ himself speaks to a soul, his words are spirit and life to that soul, for spirit and life are in his words, when
he speaks them. But when another reads or speaks them without his spirit, they minister neither spirit nor life. For instance, Christ's calling
to Lazarus when dead and buried, “Lazarus come forth;" his words were spirit and life to Lazarus. But let another read or speak the
same words to a man dead and buried, and cry to him to come forth, they will not raise him to life. (From A Christian Progress).

If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. John 8:31-2
So if the Son liberates you, then you are really and unquestionably free .John 8:36
To be set free, is to be released from captivity. To be released from slavery. To be freed from sin.
And sin includes rage, lust, sexual immorality, greed, envy, lying, passions, pleasures, etc., Gal 5:19-23,Eph 5:5
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of the devil1 John 3:8
As Paul confirms: But now since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God,
you have your present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life. Rom 6:22

As John confirms: Whoever abides in Him does not sin.

Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. 1 John 3:6 Do you really know Jesus?
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him;
and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. 1 John 3:9 John says: We know that we
And His seed are the words he has planted in your heart, words that you have have come to know him if we
heard, the Word of God. obey his commands.
1 John 2:3
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice. John 18:37
Those reluctant to look at their slavery say, 'church me.' Voice of the Lord
[see Obedience ]
As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and
from the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me. Acts 26:17-18
Faith that purifies, is faith to go to him, listen to him, hear him, and faith enough, to obey - continually by abiding in him.

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine,
neither can you, unless you abide in Me. John 15:4
He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; (love, peace, joy, patience, kindness,...Gal 5:22-23
for without Me you can do nothing. John 15:5. Works without God's Love in us count for nothing. 1 Cor 13:3
To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith expressing itself through love. Gal 5:6
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a withered branch.... into the fire. John 15:6
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. John 15:7
Abiding is the key to success. Studying the Bible only tells us what we must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living word, (not read the Bible).
when anything [as in secret sins of your heart] is exposed and reproved by the light, it is made visible and clear; and
where everything is visible and clear there is light. Eph 5:13-14

To abide is "to remain." We go to him and quietly sit waiting on him; and then we listen for him to speak to us and watch for what he shows
us. When the Light appears, we spend time in the Light. His living Word penetrates us, separating spirit from soul, and the Light purifies us
by the blood of Jesus. As we repent, we are changed and receive more of His Spirit. As we receive more of his Spirit, he abides or remains in
us too. We become the possessors of Christ, not just professors.

To abide in Him and be taught by Him, you must listen, hear, and obey.
To listen you must be quiet, not forming thoughts, not talking, not reading the Bible.
Pray the Lord's prayer, and then be quiet to listen and abide and learn. Do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they
will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Mat 6:7-8. Think
on the name of Jesus Christ, but not as a repeated mantra, and then stop thought as best you can. When you find you mind wandering, return
to thinking on the name of Jesus Christ.

Be not rash with your mouth, and let not your heart be hasty to utter a word before God.
For God is in heaven, and you are on earth; therefore let your words be few.
For a dream comes with much business and painful effort, and a fool's voice with many words. Ecc 5:2-3

Listen and Watch and Wait.

No ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him. Isa 64:4

Let your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, be upon us, in proportion to our waiting and hoping for you. Ps 33:22

Some of you may think silence is in conflict with: Pray always, with all prayer and supplication, in the spirit. Eph 6:18
Notice Paul said - pray in the spirit. You cannot pray in the spirit, if the words are made up in your carnal mind.
Paul was speaking to Christians who had crucified their flesh and their carnal minds had been replaced with the mind of Christ.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. Rom 8:7
How could prayers from a mind that is enmity with God be pleasing to God? He wants to be worshiped in Spirit and Truth.
So Paul was speaking to mature Christians, who had sufficient Spirit to control their words, deeds, and prayers.
Until your heart has been purified, be silent to wait for, hope for, and listen for God's teachings and words to you.
Yes, wait for and hope for and expect the Lord. Psalm 27:14

For since the beginning of the world, men have not heard nor perceived by the ear,
nor has the eye seen any God besides you, who acts for the one who waits for Him. Isaiah 464:4

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence, see the George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence?
Does Jesus know you? - also on the side bar.
And for guidance in the process of silence, see Miguel de Molinos' The Spiritual Guide, also on the side bar.
My sheep know my voice,
Paul further reminds us that he was not taught by man, but through direct revelation by Jesus Christ. Do not seek Jesus and
and I know them, and they truth through the Bible; rather listen to the Teacher within you, the only teacher you need, who will guide you into all truth
follow me [obey]. by abiding in Him, 1 John 2:27, to become free of sin. Do not make it your ambition to be a Bible expert; rather make it
John 10:27 your ambition to be taught by the living Word of God who opens the scriptures with understandings to all
truth, makes manifest all of the secrets of your heart, and destroys the sin that lurks in your members, thereby truly
enthroning Christ as Lord and King in your heart to rule you in word and deed.
[click to see Obedience ]

The Holy Spirit can reveal understandings in any language; but for centuries Bible Colleges have taught from Hebrew, Greek, and Latin
Biblical texts, desperately trying to understand the true meaning of the scriptures. If the Holy Spirit were helping in Bible study, Greek,
Hebrew, and Latin would not be needed, proving Jesus does not teach you while reading the Bible. Jesus didn't criticize the Pharisees for
the way they were searching the scriptures; he criticized them for spending time searching the scriptures instead of coming to him. You have
to go to your closet, get quiet, and listen.

Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10

Be silent, oh all flesh before the Lord. Zech 2:13

There are many men and women, having heard and believed the true gospel of Christ on the web site,
who are hearing Christ speak to and teach them personally, while benefiting from his changing grace.

But to hear his voice, you must go to him without pride of being righteous or just.
You must go to him as a humble sinner, even if you are 'saved.'
But the tax collector, standing at a distance, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but kept striking
his breast,
saying, O God, be favorable (be gracious, be merciful) to me, the especially wicked sinner that I am!
I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God.
For everyone who exalts himself, will be humbled, and everyone who humbles himself will be exalted.
Luke 18:9-14
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled. Mat 5:6

What else does Jesus say about hearing his voice? Below:

Jesus said, For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he is like: He is like a
man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against
that house and could not shake or move it, because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48
There is that Comes to Me again: not Bible study, not your sect's services, not prayer meetings, Come to Him.
Listens to my words does not mean listen to someone reading the Bible; it is listening to his live, spoken spirit words.
It is very simple. Go someplace private and quiet. Stop reading, talking, and praying.
Try to quiet your mind. Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10
Think on the name of Jesus Christ, but not over and over like a mantra. His name is the power to become a son of God.
Listen and watch. When you find you mind wandering, come back to think on the name of Jesus Christ.
When he commands you, obey. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19
Christ the Light, shows you the conditions of your heart; loving the Light, you repent and it purifies you.
Do this for twice a day, 30 minutes each. As he draws you closer, increase your time.
From this sure foundation he builds true faith and hope which purifies you.
Keep doing this and you will eventually be purified, for him to appear, and you to be in his arms, in the Kingdom.
See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more listening for God's Teaching and Changing Grace.

Jesus said, He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me:
and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him and show myself to him. John 14:21
He is not talking about the Ten Commandments; he is talking about what you hear him command you to repent from.
If you keep repenting and obeying them, he will appear to you, you will see God.
Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.
He told us this, because it is possible to become pure. See Purity and Sinless State for more.
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
Unto them that look for him, shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28
He didn't say, them of a special generation sometime; he said them. See the Return of Jesus for more.

Judas said to him, (not Iscariot), Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us, and not unto the world?
Jesus answered Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.
My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:22-23
If you obey his teachings, what you hear, not words from the Bible; it wasn't even printed until 1515.
If you repent and obey his teachings to you that you hear, Christ and the Father return to you to establish their home.
And their home is a Kingdom, the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of God and Christ, established in your heart.
The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display, Nor will people say,
Look! Here! or, See, there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you and among you. Luke 17:20-21
God is nearby and in him we live and move and have our being. (Acts 17:27-28)
The Kingdom is a spiritual dimension, where we walk by the Light of God. We see the world no more.
See the Return of Jesus for more.

Jesus said, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19
How could he possibly rebuke you, unless you hear him speak to you. He can't rebuke you from the Bible.

Studying the Bible increases your knowledge and therefore increases your pride,
Getting quiet, to listen and obey, will eventually result in the Holy Spirit destroying your pride and your carnal mind.
So studying the Bible is a work of the flesh.
Jesus said, It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

Paul said: This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk,
in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God,
because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; who, being past feeling, have given
themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. But you have not so learned Christ,
if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man,
which was created according to God ,in true righteousness and holiness. Eph 4:17-24.
Are you beginning to see that it is critical to hear, and be taught the truth, by Jesus himself?

Jesus said, When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.
But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice.
John 10:4-5

Jesus said, And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring,
and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd. John 10:16
While on earth, he only preached to the Jews. But the Gentiles after his death heard him, and hear him today, his voice.
We can hear him because Christ is the Light that enlightens all men and women in the world. John 1:9
Do you not yourselves realize and know that Jesus Christ is in you. 2 Cor 13:5
But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you,
and you do not need not any man to teach you:
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27
Believe in the light, that you may be the children of light. John 12:36

Jesus said, Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door,
I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20
Jesus said, Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God;
and those who hear will live. John 5:25. We are the dead of whom he is speaking. But when we hear, we will live.

At judgment, Jesus said he would reject many who called him Lord and had even performed miracles in his name
by telling them plainly: 'I never knew you. Away from me, you who practice lawlessness! Mat 7:21-23
Until we hear his voice, obey his voice, abide in his Him, and are purified by him; we still sin and he doesn't know us.
The foolish virgins without oil in their lamps, said: Lord, Lord, open to us. (without abiding in Him, his Light and Word)
Replying, Jesus said: Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Without abiding in Him, he doesn't know us.
Jesus knows his listeners: My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27
1 John 2:3 says: we are coming to know Him: if we keep (observe, practice) His teachings
(precepts, commandments).
The only way you can keep his commands is to listen to his voice, hear, and obey - until you have
crucified the sinful
nature within you. For you cannot love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, until you have
been given a new heart and mind by the love of God, received from Him over time, as you abide in his
Word and Light, with obedience.
If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set
you free. John 8:31-32
I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34
You cannot continue to be a slave to sin and serve God, or even expect his approval. Rom 8:8
See the Missing Cross for more. If you think Grace is your license to sin until death, see True Grace vs.
False Grace.

Pilate therefore said to Him, “Are You a king then?”

Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born,
and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.” John 18:37
And people of the truth, who were born after he died, can still hear his voice. He still speaks to us, if we
will listen.

Jesus said, Consider carefully what you hear. With the measure you use, it will be measured to you
—and even more. Mark 4:24-5

Jesus replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice." Luke 8:21

Jesus said, Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it. Luke 11:28

Jesus said, Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever
does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him. Luke 8:18

Jesus said, So call to mind the lessons you received and heard; continually lay them to heart and
obey them, and repent. Rev 3:2-3

Paul said, So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom 10:17
 Jesus said, Then will the righteous (those who are upright and in right standing with God) shine forth
like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him who has ears [to hear] be listening, and let
him consider and perceive and understand by hearing. Mat 13:43

Notice how the above scriptures have entirely different meanings, depending on what you believe
the Word to be.
Can you see how it is possible to completely misinterpret the critical instructions he has given us, all
based on what is the Word of God?

More scriptures supporting listening to the voice of Christ or God:

Choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; that you may love the LORD your God,
that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of
your days. Deut 30:19-20

Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. Deut 32:1

But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods
and serve them,
I announce to you today that you shall surely perish. Deut 30:17-18

Then there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,

"This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him!” Luk 9:35

Samuel said, Has the Lord as great a delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice
of the Lord?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 1 Sam 15:22

So blessed is the man who listens to me, watching daily at my gate,watching at the posts of my door.
For whoever finds me finds life and obtains favor from the LORD. Prov 8:34

“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith which
we preach. Rom 10:8
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom 10:17
If the Word of God is the Bible, then all the early Christians had no faith, because the Bible wasn't
printed until 1515.
Just by Peter speaking, the Holy Spirit fell on his listeners; (Acts 11:15), because the Apostles spoke the word
of God from spirit.
And when you really hear Christ speaking to you, your faith will grow by leaps and bounds.

The Lords' voice is kind, gentle, pure, easily understood, easily accepted, peaceable, complete,
always morally correct, encouraging - never with even a hint of sarcasm, bitterness, or condemnation
- never incomplete leaving you guessing what he wants; instead His words are full of love itself - his spirit
of Love - for he is Love. His voice will always be the same voice too. There are many other voices to hear;
but they are bitter, sarcastic, incomplete, confusing, condemning, taunting, questioning - the Lord's voice
is not so. To distinguish the voice of the Lord vs. those of deceit is to rightly divide the word of
Truth. Everything from Him will also be moral as tested with scripture from the Bible. He said to me,
"To know what the Bible says is wrong is worthy; all my great men knew the scriptures."

Before a man comes into the spiritual state to be able to understand the depth of the scriptures'
meanings, reading the Scriptures is profitable for: 1) building hope, 2) definition of what is sin, and 3)
the promises of God to be obtained. It is a serious mistake, to discount the scriptures altogether; even to
the spiritually immature, their reading is very helpful; but the all-too-common mistake is to not seek He
of whom the scriptures testify, to only read about Him, rather than to experience Him by silently waiting
on Him to receive His teachings and changing grace. Children should be encouraged to read the Bible;
and young children can immensely benefit from reading The Golden Children's Bible, widely
available. Whatever time you give to the reading of the Bible, you should give far more time to silent
waiting on the Lord.

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom you also trusted, after
that you heard the word of truth, [the word of truth is not a book], the gospel of your salvation: in
whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise. Eph 1:12-13. This is to
hear God [the word of truth] tell you, in whom you believed, the good news of your coming salvation. If
you think the word of truth is the Bible, then you think you have found eternal life searching the
scriptures; but your faith is incorrectly in the Bible as the word of truth. This scripture speaks of the
interim reward of seeking; like when you hear the Lord say to you, "I have placed before you
an open door which no one can shut," Rev 3:8, and when you receive a measure of his Spirit.

Today, if you hear his voice from heaven, do not harden your hearts. Hebrews 4:7

See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks.

If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth,
how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? Hebrews 12:25

George Fox again:

But we resolve to hear the Son, as both the Father and he command; and in hearing the
Son, we hear the Father also, as the scripture testifies. For the letter to the Hebrews
says, "God, who at sundry times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by
the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by his Son:" mark that, God has spoken to
 us (his apostles, disciples, and church), by his Son.

And where, some have objected, "That although Christ did speak both to his disciples and
to the Jews in the days of his flesh, yet since his resurrection and ascension he does
not speak now;"

The answer is: the Jews could not hear his heavenly voice then, neither can those who
say they are Christians, but today are in the same nature as the Jews were then. But
the disciples of Christ, who learned from him, they heard his voice then and hear it now.

After Christ had risen, Christ spoke to the Apostle Paul and to the rest of the
disciples, including John, when he wrote his revelations. And the Apostle said to
the Hebrews, "See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape
who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away
from Him who speaks from heaven, who neglected and resisted Moses, and who died
under the hand of two or three witnesses. Whoever resisted Moses' law (who spoke
on earth), died for it without mercy.

That was a natural death. But they who now neglect him who speaks from heaven, they
neglect their salvation. Therefore while it is still called day, do not neglect to hear his voice.
Those who do neglect to hear his voice while it is called day, harden their hearts. Heb 3:15

The Apostle said that God at sundry times, and after diverse manners, spoke to our
fathers by the prophets; but in these last days God has spoken to us by his Son, mark,
has spoken to us by his Son. For which reason, John said in the Revelations, "He that has
an ear, let him hear what the spirit says to the churches." Rev 2:7. "And Christ is said to
speak from heaven." Heb12:25.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world, Titus 2:11-12
This is the basis of repentance and change, to be personally taught by grace what to deny and how to live.

But what does it (scripture) say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"
that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming. Rom 10:8 The Spirit is in your mouth and your heart,
not scriptures. When Paul said this, the New Testament didn't even exist.

For if you live according to the flesh (the sinful nature), you will surely die. But if through the power of
the Spirit you are putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the deeds prompted by the body, you
shall live forever.
Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. Rom 8:13-14
To be led is to hear the voice of Christ with direct orders as to what to do and when to do it.
He doesn't leave you to guess about a feeling, a call, an opinion, a burden, a desire, or a "door opening"
to walk through.

The Word is Christ within you, the Light that enlightens all men, patiently waiting to
teach and reveal himself to you,
which is Christ in you, the hope of glory; Whom we preach, warning every man, and
teaching every man in all wisdom;
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. Col 1:27-8

Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. Rom 1:19

(Click here for more on the sinless state; click here for more on Christ in you; Click here
for add'l scriptures on the voice of the Lord.)

The seed is the Word of God. And that [seed] which fell among thorns are they, which,
when they have heard, go forth, and are of this life, and bring no fruit to PERFECTION.
But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard
the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:14-15 (See Coming Out of the
World for more on this.)

If the Bible is the Word of God, then where are all the people with fruit? There are
millions studying the Bible every day. But, unfortunately for all, the Bible is not the Word
of God; and that is why no one brings forth fruit to perfection. But if you listen for the
Living Word of God, you can produce fruit to perfection. If the same millions were
listening for the voice of the Lord, the true Word of God, we would be living in a
different world, full of purified, peculiar people zealous for producing good works,
who would show the power and love of God to the world. Like the early church did
in Jerusalem, having favour with all the people.

Instead, we have unspeakable scandals from priests and with the Bible-expert
leaders (Haggard, Baker, Swaggert, etc.) of our faith; and the world ridicules the
hypocrisy of a powerless, fruitless Christianity. Even many Buddhists and Hindus
exhibit more fruit than today's Christians. There is obviously something missing
in Christianity today - the Light, the real Word of God, repentance, the cross of Christ,
fruit, true grace, the promise of freedom from captivity. This happened because
we substituted studying the Bible for listening to the words that I speak to you are spirit,
and they are life, John 6:63; we didn't listen to God.
Since sin is acceptable by the sects, there is no standard of Christian conduct; if one sin
is acceptable, then so is two, then three.. then 1,000 sins is OK; until finally someone
crosses the line that outrages everyone's sense of what is not OK sin, and they're held up
by society as examples of Christian hypocrisy, to all of our shame. We're not listening to
God; we have no standards, even though God gave us Jesus as our standard and our
Teacher; we are not receiving his changing grace to purity through repentance while
we abide in Him, to become free - not free to sin, but free from sin. If you abide in My
word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
John 8:31-32. The freedom from sin is not make-believe freedom, not freedom from sin's
guilt, not freedom to sin; NO: it is freedom from sin, freedom from the distress of
sin, freedom from the bondage of sin, freedom from the attraction of sin, yielding
purity, peace, righteousness, union with Christ and God, being translated into the
Kingdom, the pearl of great price, having your heart filled with love instead of lusts, to
enter the promised rest from labors of the world, to hear and see God, true salvation-
true FREEDOM. So if the Son liberates you, then you are really and unquestionably free.
John 8:36. Here is the reason Jesus said he was sent to the world:

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,

for he has anointed me to preach the Good News to the poor.
He has sent Me to announce release to the captives, that the blind will see,
to send forth as delivered those who are oppressed.
To proclaim the accepted and acceptable year of the Lord.
Luke 4:18-20

Release of the captives - those captive to sin. So those in darkness and blind can come into
the light and see. He came to deliver those who are oppressed - oppressed with the burdens
and distresses of sin. The Jews thought the Messiah was going to deliver them from the Roman
occupation. They missed it. And we missed it too because we substituted studying the Bible instead
of listening to the words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life, John 6:63; we didn't listen
to God. We picked out a few scriptures, while ignoring hundreds of others, that we think guarantee
us heaven after death and started celebrating. And there are 30,000 sects of Christians out there, each
one with a different set of scriptures or interpretations of scripture, because none of them are listening
to God. 30,000 different concepts of what God expects and requires of us; 30,000 different Jesus;
30,000 different gospels. Paul said, people preached a different gospel and a different Jesus than him.
If they all listened to God, we would have only one sect; for the Spirit's purpose is to have oneness
of faith. We are dreadfully thwarting the purpose of the Spirit of God; 30,000 sects of Christians proves
we are all lost from the guidance of the Spirit of God to unity, and lost to truth, and lost to the gospel,
and lost to what the real Jesus wants, expects, and demands from us.

You say how could that be possible? Because all the sects are simply evolutional varieties
of the Roman Empire's church, both east and west, whose doctrines were dictated by the
evil-minded, but sainted, Emperors Constantine and Justinian the despot, thus
eliminating the true gospel by 390 AD. As prophesied in Revelations, the church
adulterated with the Kings of the earth to become Babylon. The protestant deficit sects
are just variations of Roman sect's same basic beliefs: instant salvation by speaking
words, water baptism, eating bread/drinking grape juice, listening to sermons, etc.; the
same basic ritual form of salvation and worship. But the Father desires to be worshiped
in Spirit and Truth - and those who know the truth, have been set free; he wants to
be worshiped by those with a pure heart, whose sinful nature has been crucified on
the missing cross of Christ.

God is a Spirit, and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. John4:24

To be in spirit and truth, you must first be changed by God while abiding in his spoken
Word and Light.
So all worships, not in the Holy Spirit with the truth in you also, displease God.
All other worships are an abomination to him, because they come from your carnal mind, which
in enmity to God.
To be made a pleasing worshiper, you must be purified, so the Spirit can supply your words.
To be purified, you must: go to him, listen, and obey. See Why Silence for more.

Please don't accuse me of denigrating scripture. Notice I quote scripture throughout these writings, for
'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness.
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.' 2 Tim 3:16-17.

But also notice the above lauding of scripture says, scripture is to furnish the perfect man of God:
(a man of God is mature, taught by Christ, called, and under orders by Christ - not any man who reads
the scriptures)
Also: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished. Before you need expertise in scripture,
you need to get perfect.

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Mat 5:48

Not be kind of perfect. Not perfect as you can. Not as perfect as humanly possible while trying.
Perfect - as your heavenly Father is perfect - a definitive qualification of perfect.
Perfect that is impossible without divine grace: to change us, to purify us, to make us like Him, perfect.
The only way you are ever going to be perfect is to abide in Jesus; whoever continues to feed on Me shall
live through and because of Me. John 6:57
Let his Word and Light search your heart and show its defects to you; you repent, and He change you
by grace - one defect at a time.
You might be thinking, what is this guy talking about: I am a believer! So was Hitler! So were the
Catholic priests of the Inquisition that tortured and slowly murdered 9,000,0000 souls for being witches
in the Middle Ages; they were baptized, confessed their faith, took communion, read the
scriptures regularly, prayed daily - all very holy murderers - but they had no fruit - except big thorns.

If you are a believer, where is the evidence of your belief?

Where is your fruit that Jesus said proves you are a true follower of his?

When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8

The fruit of the Spirit is love, peace, joy, self-control, kindness, faith, goodness, and gentleness ;
this involves ridding yourself of sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; greed, hatred,
discord, jealousy,
fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. Gal 5:19-23.
You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God. Eph 5:5
If we are not seeking to produce fruit, our belief and faith is dead. As James said, faith without works
is dead. Jam 2:17-18
This kind of change is only available by grace from the Holy Spirit to put to death the misdeeds of the body,
while abiding in Christ the Word and Light. Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior.

Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to
your shame. 1 Cor 15:34

So kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members: sexual vice,
impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is idolatry (the
deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5.

If you are thinking: the scriptures didn't really mean prefect perfect, I will become a Bible expert and
then teach or preach anyway,
here is what Jesus said about that: (click for more on perfection)

And he spoke a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall
into the ditch?
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
Luke 6:39-40
The Amplified Bible gives us a further understanding of this scripture about being perfect
- and being authorized.
A pupil is not superior to his teacher,
but everyone completely trained (readjusted, restored, set to rights, perfected) will
be like his teacher. Luke 6:40
You need to be restored, to the state of Adam before the fall; restored to the divine
spiritual image of God.
You need to be completely trained, trained by the Teacher. The Bible is not the Teacher.
Then you need to be set to rights by the Teacher, Christ. This is to be authorized to teach.
Teaching without being perfected, readjusted, restored, and set to rights is
estimating oneself to be superior to Jesus.
According to Jesus, unperfected, unauthorized teachers are estimating themselves to
be above Jesus.
Such unauthorized persons think that since they know so much, that they don't need Him
to teach and authorize them first.
This is a common, but disastrous error, one of which you do not want to hear him
remind you at judgment.

You may say: my preacher or professor will completely train me; he is a teacher. But Paul
in Ephesians says:

And His gifts were some to be apostles (special messengers), some prophets
(inspired preachers and expounders), some evangelists (preachers of the Gospel,
traveling missionaries), some pastors (shepherds of His flock) and teachers.

His intention was the perfecting and the full equipping of the saints (His
consecrated people), the work of ministering toward building up Christ's body (the church),

until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the knowledge of the
Son of God, that at really mature manhood (the completeness of personality which is
nothing less than the standard height of Christ's own perfection), the measure of the
stature of the fullness of the Christ and the completeness found in Him. Ephesians 4:11-13

Was your preacher or teacher appointed by gift from the Holy Spirit? Is your college
teacher or minister perfected in the standard height of Christ's own perfection? Does he
have the fullness and completeness of Christ? Of course he doesn't. But the purpose of
a teacher or preacher or pastor is to perfect the saints. How can someone
unperfected perfect anyone? So he is an unauthorized teacher too. So you can't
be authorized or perfected by your professor or preacher. And if you teach or preach
to anyone before being completely trained by Him, perfected by Him, and authorized
by Him, you are estimating yourself to be superior to Christ and will incur
condemnation. Such authorization comes from him directly and specifically; you hear
him say: you are now a teacher, or: preach repentance with remission of sins. (And,
yes: after being taught and changed for years while silent, we heard those exact words.) It
is not a door opening, a feeling, an inspiration, a "call," a burden, etc.

If you are preaching or teaching religion before being perfected and specifically
authorized by Christ, to be able to hear, you must stop. Every word you preach or teach
that is not totally correct puts condemnation on you, and until perfected and authorized
your teachings will not be true. See To Religious Teachers and Preachers for more. You
will not be able to hear until you stop teaching and preaching in error.

If you get quiet and listen in humility, He will tell you things about Himself. He will encourage you. He
is kindness. He, the Word and Light, will tell or show you things about yourself; some will be things that
are ugly. But since he is your friend, you know that he is showing them to you for your own good. So
you listen and watch. And you don't run; stand before the Son of Man. And you repent of what he
shows you. And sometimes he gives you commands. You are hearing the Word of God, the living Word.
And hopefully you will obey his commands and show him you love him by being obedient. To hear and
obey is to receive Christ. Keep pen and paper nearby when listening and watching. Stop and write down
you hear or see. Then go right back to listening and watching. Review them periodically, and keep
repenting. You will start changing; not as fast as you want to, but you will change. You will become
more patient, less easily angered, kinder, more settled, more focused in life. Your desires for the things
of the world will begin to melt away. As you follow his commands, your progress will accelerate. When
you see your changes, still conscious of your decreasing failures, you will know, with gratitude, that he
is changing you by grace - it is working! Your faith is increasing, because you hear the Word of God
and because you are becoming more sure of what you hope for and more certain of Christ making changes
in you, even though you don't yet see Him. (Click for more information on How to Benefit from
the Changing Power of God.)

As long as we live in our selfish nature, we are unruly and incapable of being ruled, controlled, or led by
a Lord or King.
So, if we want Jesus to be our Lord and King, we must first put to death the selfish, sinful nature
by repentance to purity.
By listening, Jesus leads us out of the world, one step at a time, showing us from what to repent,
and teaching us how to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world.
This is the Missing Cross of Christ, the power of God missing in the sects today; the power that leads
to purity and holiness.
For without holiness, no one will see God. Heb. 12:14
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions
and desires. Gal 5:24
The end result is purity and then the return of Christ in his glory with his Kingdom of everlasting peace
and joy.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our
Savior Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity,
and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:11-14
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3

And after being purified, along with the glorious appearing of Christ, to enter paradise;
the Kingdom of Heaven within and among us; our consciousness and sight being
translated to the spiritual dimension, to live in union with Christ and God in their
presence, while walking on earth by the light of God, as children of the light. For
God is not far from each one of us and hopes that men would seek him and perhaps reach
out for him and find him; for in him we live and move and have our being, (Acts 17:27-28).
The pages on this web site show the way out of darkness to light. And they show
how thousands in the past have already secured the Kingdom of Heaven to become
children of the light.

Belief in the true gospel and the cross, to realize the promise, releases the power of God
to purify you and make you one with Him. The cross of Christ, which is the power of
God, crucifies your sinful nature and selfish will through repentance as follows:

● seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, as 1st priority, is an act of
repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to
your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to
your selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with
him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to
your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to
your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if
you repent - it is a cross to your will
 (In the Light, is where you get changed, where your peace increases, as you repent. This
is where you abide in Him.)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness
and give- it is a cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if
you repent and defer - it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

This is the beginning of the cross. There is also suffering with the cross, for when you have been
prepared sufficiently by his grace and teachings, you will enter tribulation, to further the death of your
sinful nature. Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the
same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result,
he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. 1 Pet 4:1-
2. Tribulation is not a hard day at the office, a car wreck, or some natural difficulty; it is
unmistakably, supernaturally imposed. See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more.
(also on the side bar).

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence, see George Fox's writing on Why
Silence? (also on the side bar).

The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is
the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18. For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even
weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their
belly, [lusts, passions, pleasures] and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Phil 3:18-
19. And the true gospel, the name of Jesus, and the cross are all the power of God to purify you
through repentance with God's changing grace.

And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my
disciple. Luke 14:27

For we know that our old self was crucified

with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

Jesus said, If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with
two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It
is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye
causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have
two eyes and be thrown into hell. Mark 9:42-47. He doesn't want us to maim ourselves. He
is illustrating how serious sin is. Jesus is desperately trying to tell us that to enter
the Kingdom and escape hell, sin is not allowed, period.He knew false ministers with
false gospels promising freedom to continue to sin would arise after he left.
Changes in our heart through the missing cross to purity can take away the desire of the hand, foot, and
eye to cause us to sin.
Everyone is going to be purified; in this life by the cross, or in the next life with
great pain and difficulty.
See Is there Hope for All for details.

Let no one think themselves unworthy to enter the Kingdom by repentance, for even
the prostitutes and tax collectors were entering in Jesus' time. Matthew 21:31-32. The Holy
Way...the simple ones and fools, shall not err in it and lose their way. Isa 35:8. For his return
is to purified believers, in all generations, who have prepared the way of the Lord, making
his beaten paths straight, by repentance through grace, to crucify the sinful nature. His grace
is sufficient for all men and women to enter, but first, we must all repent.

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32

That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve
him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74. (Perfect love expels
all fear. 1 John 4:18)

Many from "good Bible-believing, Bible-loving churches," today say you can't hear God's voice any
more. They say that is why we have the Bible, because God's voice cannot be heard any more. I say they
can't hear God's voice because, like the Pharisees above, they are so busy reading scriptures they
think guarantee them eternal life, that they are not listening. The Bible seekers say that since you can't
hear his voice anymore, then the Bible is his sole record left for us. They say since it is impossible to hear
his voice any more, you must study the Bible; don't waste you time trying to hear the Lord. They
say studying the Bible, (their Word of God), is how to grow as a Christian. They say you must meditate
on their Word to be taught by the Spirit; but that is like walking into a classroom and demanding the
teacher answer all your questions, which rather limits the teacher's ability to teach you what he knows
you need to know. So, rather than arrogantly demanding the teacher to follow your lead, just humbly
listen for his teaching, allowing God to lead you and set the agenda.

They say the Bible is a closed book; that there are no more revelations to come, and then absurdly state
if you were to write down what you hear Christ say to you, you are guilty and cursed
for adding words to the Bible, for it says so in Revelations:

For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add
unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book
of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:18-9

The book referred to above is the Book of Revelations, not the Bible. The warning is to not add to or
delete from the prophecy of the Book of Revelations. When John wrote the Book of Revelations, 2000
years ago, the various letters and books of the Bibles had not even been selected for inclusion, much
less assembled together, and the Bible was not even printed until 1515. These people have
condemned Peter, Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Jude, and James for adding words to the
Torah, much of the Old Testament, which was the Bible then in use at the time that John wrote the Book
of Revelations. These modern Pharisees are classic blind guides who strain gnats while
swallowing camels. They worship the Bible as the Word of God, instead of worshiping the
Living Word of God, Christ. Even the Bible speaks of scriptures and Word of God differently. They say
Bible is the final word of God, and a closed book; they say he no longer speaks. They perish for lack
of knowledge. They are stone deaf and totally blind. The Bible is the letter. The letter kills, the Spirit
gives life. Those who believe the Bible is the source of truth, making it their source of Jesus, making it
their God, have made the Bible an idol. "Woe be to them, for they have coupled an
external form between the love of God to man," (from the voice of the Lord). For more on how the Bible
is worshiped, instead of Christ, read the astute testimony of the 18 year old Christian martyr, James Parnell.

I can understand defending the Bible as accurate and true. I zealously maintain the same position. But
in addition to the words from the Holy Spirit penned by the prophets and Apostles, the Bible contains
words spoken by Satan and several very evil men; such words are clearly not the Word of God.

Isaac Penington in The Great Apostasy said: "I dare boldly affirm, that men's reading of
the scriptures in their own wisdom and self-confidence, (or confidence of
what interpretation others have given), does them no good at all, but much harm, tending
to the building up of what God will again destroy. But he that begins with the Spirit of God,
giving himself up to that light which comes from Him, comes to true union with God, and
to the feeling of the life, and so to a true growth and knowledge of the Spirit of God, by
which he comes to know and understand the scriptures, which came from the same Spirit; and hereby
also he comes to be able to measure the deceit of his own spirit, which formerly led him aside, and also
to see and measure the spirits of deceivers. But he that is in the deceit, in the imagination, out of the
true knowledge, he cannot know the deceit of his own spirit, or the spirits of deceivers; but calls the
truth deceit, and the deceit truth."

The ministers of today are not in the same spirit of the Apostles, who spoke the word of God. The
early church spoke what they heard God speak to them and spoke the words as given to them by the Spirit
of God. But the ministers and preachers today, not having been purified by crucifying their sinful nature
on the cross of Christ, speak from their carnal mind, and the carnal mind is enmity against God.
Rom 8:7. Until their mind has been changed, their words are without life, and they speak from the nature
of death. Your minister can be a great public speaker receiving the praise of men, but so did the
false prophets of old. ( Luke 6:26). Just as George Fox said of the ministers of his era, the ministers of
today have not come as far spiritually as Baalam's ass, who not only heard the Word of God, but spoke
it. (Numbers 22:21-33). They are the Pharisaical false prophets of which Jesus warned us. But the Apostles,
and the early church, spoke the word of God from the Spirit of God; here are some scriptural references
to the Apostles speaking the Word of God: which definitely are not related to reading the Bible, for it
didn't exist until 1500 years later: ( Prophesy is to preach; to instruct in religious doctrines; to interpret or explain Scripture
or religious subjects; to exhort.)

1. 1 Cor 2:13
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom,
but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
This should end any controversy. The Apostles spoke the Word of God. When someone speaks the Word,
it is with Spirit.
They spoke truths in spiritual words taught to them by the Spirit of Christ. We must be taught by the
same Spirit today. When they spoke, they spoke with the Spirit of God, for they had sufficient Spirit to
not only hear, but to speak - often in real-time.
The Spirit of Christ speaks to us precisely in language we understand and particularly to the
specific conditions in our hearts.
When we are purified and authorized, we will be able to speak from the Spirit the Word of God too. But
not until then.
Our carnal mind has to be destroyed and replaced by the mind of Christ. This is not done by studying
the Bible.
There are some of you who still believe that words read from a book are equal to hearing God speak to
you; but even if you believe that, you can't possibly believe that the book can function as Christ the
Light, which exposes the conditions and motives in your heart, revealing to them to you visually; for
all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light,
Eph 5:13-14; and You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence. Psa 90:8

2. Acts 4:31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the
Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. (These people spoke the Word of God from
the Holy Spirit within them.)
 3. Acts 5:19-20
But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said, Go, stand
and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life.

4. Acts 6:2
So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, "It would not be right for us to neglect
the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables.

5. Acts 6:7
So the word of God spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem increased rapidly, and a large number
of priests became obedient to the faith.

6. Acts 8:14
When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter
and John to them.

7. Acts 8:28
When they had testified and proclaimed the word of the Lord, Peter and John returned to
Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages

8. Acts 11:1
The apostles and the brothers throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God.

9. Acts 12:24
But the word of God continued to increase and spread.

10. Acts 13:5

When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the Jewish synagogues. John was
with them as their helper.

11. Acts 13:7

who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for
Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God.

12. Acts 13:46

Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since
you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

13. Acts 13:44

On the next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord.

14. Acts 13:48

When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who
were appointed for eternal life believed.

15. Acts 15:35-36

But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word
of the Lord. Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the brothers in all the
towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing."

16. Acts 17:13

When the Jews in Thessalonica learned that Paul was preaching the word of God at Berea, they went
there too, agitating the crowds and stirring them up.

17. Acts 18:11

So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

18. Acts 19:10

This went on for two years, so that all the Jews and Greeks who lived in the province of Asia heard the
word of the Lord.

19. Acts 19:20

In this way the word of the Lord spread widely and grew in power.

20. Acts 20:32

"Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you
an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.

21. Acts 22:14

And he said, The God of our forefathers has destined and appointed you to come progressively to know
His will [to perceive, to recognize more strongly and clearly, and to become better and more
intimately acquainted with His will], and to see the Righteous One (Jesus Christ, the Messiah), and to
hear a voice from His own mouth and a message from His own lips.

22. Romans 10:8

But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word
of faith we are proclaiming

23. 1 Corinthians 14:36

Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?

George Fox, the original founder of the Quakers, (the Quakers today have lost the cross too), also spoke the Word
of the Lord while living in paradise, the Kingdom of God. Click here to see his many wonderful,
powerful statements from the presence of the Lord.
For more information on blind guides, who Christ said to leave them, click here.

Yes, God speaks through the Living Word, Christ. The Bible is not the Living Word, Christ. The Bible is
the words of the saints who wrote down their words. Those who believe the Bible is the source of
truth, (making it their source of Jesus, making it their God), have made the Bible an idol. God still speaks
to us. He is the Light that lights all men. How can grace teach us unless we listen? You must be quiet to
hear him. He told us: do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of
their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him, Mat 6:7-
8; he knows what you want; he will answer your needs, but maybe not all your wants. You don't even need
to form words for him to know everything you want. Of course, we often can't help ourselves and must
pour out our words to Him; but remember, silence will communicate too; plus you can then hear what
he has to say to you.

Much more information is available on this site. Look at the side bar at the top of the page, click to go
back to the top.

For more information on whether you should continue to patronize sects without the true gospel, click here.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more on listening for God's teaching and
receiving his changing, purifying grace.

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
John 10:27

He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6

Diligence - continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal; laborious; persevering.

He Awaits You!
(also voice of the Lord)

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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LOVE POEMS TO THE LORD

(Obedient)
AWE

ONE
You asked if I wished
to walk right before You
Hear Oh Israel
The Lord our God
The Lord is One And wakened me up
to what life could be
Holy One

Wonderful One Each step directed

my eyes as yours see
Almighty One

Glorious One Breath stopping

Awestruck
Hear Oh Lord my cry to Thee Poured out to Thee
out of the many that war within me

Make me One REPENTANCE

with Thee (and remission of sins)

MY GOD Repent-
said He
My God for you have wounded you
Rocks the hills with His thunder Repent-
said He
for you have wounded Me
My God
Pounds the shore with His might Repent-
said He
My God and I will reveal your self
Hurled the stars through the heavens Repent-
said He
And my God and I will reveal Me
Walked the Earth as a child
Repent-
said He
and I will cleanse your sin
(Hundreds of Glorious)
and I will break your bondage
ANGELS SANG
and I will free your soul

Angels sang Repent-

as you crossed ore from heaven said He
and I will draw you to Me
Repent-
Angels sang
said He
as you came to set free
 and I will draw near you

Angels sang Repent-

as you brought to us your Life said He
and I will take your hand
Angels sang Repent-
that in you said He
we might Be and I will make you Love

Repent-
said He
PEACE and I will bring the Kingdom
and I will bring my fruits
The softness of the presence and I will bring the new man
Which caresses like a warm breeze
Repent-
sustains in times of trial
said He
soothes with a gentle hand
and I will show my glory
Repent-
Not the ecstasy of joy said He
neither the desert of absence and I will make us One

But the peace which passes all understanding CHRISTMAS

You laid aside

You are with me
the honor of King Universal
and I can smile upon this life

You laid aside

BLOOM
the worship of heavenly throngs

When we come to You we bloom

You laid aside
Like a bud in the springtime of the year
the peace and joy of heaven
Like a rose in the summer of its life
We lift from in the Earth to meet the Light
And we are no more what we were And crept in
But part of You as a child upon this globe

LEAD ME You laid aside

the might that formed the heavens
Thou art All holy, Oh my Lord

You laid aside

Lead me to give to You the glory of all You are
in my brother
Lead me to serve You
You laid aside
In my brother
the dominion of all existence
Lead me to love You
In my brother
And reached out
from a cradle in the straw
Thou art all in all, Oh my Lord
Lead me
FRIEND

YOU
The Holy Spirit of God walks with me
He lightens my step and lifts my heart
My times are in your hands
And all my days in your keeping
He is Jesus, who walked the hills of Galilee
and gave me a glimpse through the door of heaven
You lift my feet from the stone
And take my hand in the darkness
He is my God, who walked with me in the garden
and loves me through all times
Your meadows and woods are mine
And your waters flow through my heart
My soul doth sing with His Glory and His love
My hunger and thirst are filled
You are the glory and the love
with the water of His spirit
of all Eternity
And I belong to You forever
The Holy Spirit of God is the Light of my life
and He is my friend forever

You wash my feet with your love

and my soul with your spirit
PRAYER

How can I tell you of my love for You

It lifts from deep within and soars to meet your glory
LORD OF GLORY
It breaks as rising waves
upon the brilliance of your holiness
Lord of Glory It carries me on high to mingle with your love
You shine through the dark
Shine in that secret place
My heart is stilled
Shine in our heart
My breath is gone
My spirit here no more
Lord of Glory
You breathe out your love
Take me, my Lord, to ever soar
Breathe on our spirits Life
held gently in your love
Breathe on our souls

Lead me
Lord of Glory
You caress us within Prune me
And we are in You, my Lord
And You are in Him Use me

Take me
QUITE TIME

The pleasures and cares of this world

Must not be allowed to take
ADORATION

The quite time

When I sink at last
The quite time
Before the glory of your presence
The quite time
With You
When I come to you
Out of this world’s flights and falls
I know You thru the wonder of your world
and thirst for more
When I sing to you
My soul’s humble adoration
I sing to You your praises
And You fill me with your love
You reach down
And bathe me in your love
I soar to meet your glory
and fall before your presence
THY WILL
(Life)
The quite time
The quite time
The quite time
YOU MADE ME
You made me
I saw You form me from the clay
And stoop to stand me on my feet
And then stayed there being close
To help me walk with You
How could I not trust You
GOD
God is a name
We use to identify You
As if to describe
A species set apart
But the essence of your being
Absolute purity in all your parts
What You are in all your Glory
Gentle, patient, peaceful, loving
Make You only in all creation
Worthy of worship and devotion
And so I fall before your brilliance
In adoration of your Being
And call You humbly from within me
What You are – in truth
My God
CLEAVE
Cleave to Me
And I will never leave you
Cleave to Me
And I will show you love
Cleave to Me
And I will fill you with Me
To live to Thy good pleasure
is a love song
Forever
WHEN I LEAVE YOU
When I leave You
And wander after my own concerns and hurts
When I journey
to a land to try things on my own
I get caught
In webs of loneliness and sorrow
But when I wake
And turn my footsteps home once more
You are there
Running out to meet me with your love
FREE WILL
Oh, my God and hope
My beloved above all others
My king, whom I adore
My everlasting love
That Thou would create me
With something Thou desireth
That Thou, my Lord would treasure
My gift above all others
You gave me life and breath
And all your glorious loving
But none of these as precious
As that most holy gift
For Thou has given me
Free will – of all thy creatures
And with that I can give
Myself and all my love
All praise to You my glory
Who has all and gives all to me
That Thou would leave me a treasure
That I can give to You
YEARN
Cleave to me
And I will bring you home
HALLELUJAH
(praise the Lord)
Hallelujah to Thee, my Lord
Hallelujah to Thee, my king
That Thou would show us
Thy self
That Thou would show us
Thy Name
Hallelujah to Thee, my Lord
Hallelujah to Thee, my King
That Thou, Holy God
Thou Almighty
Would walk this day
with me
TOUCH YOU
I feel You
in the things within your world
The gurgle of a brook
and a mighty ocean wave
The scent of a rose
and its touch upon my face
The mighty mountain’s proclamation
to the endless sky
A wise old tree where I can lean
and feel your love lift high
I hold your hand
as I travel through this life
And touch You
in the things within your world
I yearn for You – Lord
I yearn to worship You in spirit
I yearn for You – Lord
I yearn to know You thru your words
I yearn for You – Lord
I yearn to follow all that’s your way
I yearn for You – Lord
I yearn each breath
To love You more
You are my Father
I recognized You of a sudden
And find such belonging
in the knowing
GLIMPSE
We pray Thee to show us
of Thy Holy Glory
We pray to know Thee
in all of Thy parts
We pray Thee to feed us
with the food of Thy person
Yet when we glimpse Thee
on our face we must fall
I have tasted of Thee
And Thou art like oil to my soul
ThOU ART THERE
Thou art there
When I fly up to meet Thee
Thou art there
When I descend to the depths
Thou art there
When I walk thru this lifetime
 TRUST
Thou art there
And in Thee can I trust
You bade me to ask
For more trust of Thee

Then You gave me to trust GIVING

To set me free
The blessing of giving
our will to another

KEYS The blessing of giving

To another’s desire

Would that I
Could see life thru your eyes The blessing of thinking
All that’s best in every situation of another before self

Would that I Is the blessing of giving

Could think on thoughts as you our will to God
Gentle, humble, patient in reflection
When we will submit
Would that I and think of another
Could feel as your heart teaches
Joy and peace and love for all mankind As a practice to make
our will subside
Then could I
Live fully in your kingdom And when we shall give
By your Grace and Spirit to what is before us
Let it be

Our hearts shall be pure

and we shall see God
GUARDIAN

ALONE
There is no need
to fear from the enemy
The times alone with You
Make up the moments of my life
There is no need
to hide in the dark
The communion and the love lift up
Where I always would dwell
There is no need to
cower in corners
To encircle me within your arms
My cheek upon your chest
There is no need
because He does hark
To walk with You, my hand in yours
My head laid down to rest
The Lord is my strength
He is my shield
Your love flows out and fills me
So that I have more to share
The Lord does battle
By the glory of his Name
What You give to me is so much more
Than ever I could dare
The Lord is my Light
He is my Guardian
The times I have alone with You
 Make precious my life here
He frees me by the promise
that He will never leave

COURAGE

TAKE ME
“Courage” calls up pictures
of soldiers and dragons
Take me
and fill me with Thy spirit
But Thou show us courage
as patient and kind
Take me
and shape me with Thy love
As turning from worry
And self centered longings
Take me
and make all that You will
As turning to trust
And acceptance of Thine
No thought
No wish
No breath in life Always looking up
But yours To Thy goodness and wisdom

Praying
CROSS Not fainting

The winds howl Till Thy coming

and the rains beat down Ends time
and temptation opens
to swallow my Life
SON
To the cross I flee
anchored to it in hope Oh my Lord, my soul
To Thy power I cling my beloved above all others
waiting Thy grace and love

You wrap me in your love

And the winds calm and cover me in your essence
and the sea in me stills
and Easter comes up
You spirit me away
in the Light of Thy face
and take me to Another

STILLNESS How can I magnify You

when You have already been

Thou be Holy
and at Thy feet we fall You came to take our hands
and lift us from our dying

For we are flesh

and we are sinful men You lead us through the desert
and cleanse us from ourselves

But Thou lift us

in arms of sparkling Glory You mingle with our souls
and carry us in the darkness

And carry us
to a place we could not go All glory to God on high
And on Earth
Hope to men
A place
to be with Thee in stillness
LIGHT
Breathless
Timeless The evil is a separate part
Gentleness and tries to raise its ugly head
And Light

But I sink back into your arms

and watch it as it flees the Light
ONLY YOU

And know if this can happen once

Only You it can happen for all time
can give me courage

THEE
Only You
can make me stand
Thee
is a word
Only You
that gives wings to my spirit
can draw me to You

Thee
and Only You
is a word
take me to Him
that carries me in high

PLEASE
Thee
is a word
Please that breaks open the heavens
Just You
take away the wants and wishes
Thee
Is a word
Please Glorious
Just You Holy
take away the fears and doubts Word of Life

Please
Just You HOME
take away all of the anger
When Thou dost come
Please and fill this body
Just You
take my heart When Thou drivest out
for all times all of the old
Now

Then we will reside

FAITH again in Thy Paradise

A caterpillar is touched This life passed away

and yearns to fly to you made new in Thy love

Yet You force it not Thou

nor spin it the cocoon Art the kingdom

Does it ever think Thou

to crash out and turn back? art the Light

Or fear that You Thou

can really change it hence?
Help me to soar
wrapped in the arms of faith
Till You can make me
as You would have me be
OUT OF YOU
art the city
of the Glory of God
We shall behold
no more all our sorrows
Thy face we shall see
and we shall be home

COME
Out of You is Light
and that is where the Life is
Come Thou my Lord
our Bridegroom eternal
Out of You is Faith
which grows the more we see
What more could we want
than to have You here with us
Out of You Is Grace
that covers and protects us
Rejoice you His nation
celebrate in His nearness
Out of You is Hope
by which we come to Be
How blessed are we
now and forever
You are the Love:
where You dwell
what You do Prepare Him a feast
who You are of ourselves and our giving

Bring us To Be like You Come Thou, my Lord

to see and feel and touch You and take us to You

United with You in Life

as true and pure as You
PRECIOUS
Draw us, draw us onward
to be with You, and live to You When I resign my will to yours
all that comes to me is of You
To be pleasing to You forever
when we see You as You Are Whenever I give my life to it
it covers me and leads me
WITH YOU
Your sight, your way, your plan
When You touch me your all-seeing, all-knowing wisdom
all else recedes

This place Is brought to me when I wait

this time is brought to me as your gift
this life
It is precious – Your Will
I am with You alone
it is Holy
once more
whenever You draw near
 It guides us and molds us and keeps us
It is my joy
this time with You
Make us to live so within it
It is my breath that we come to its wholeness
and being to You

Cleanse me, refine me

THE TRUTH
to purity
Show me the truth
That I may never leave
the Union What's in my heart
and what's in Yours
By your Spirit -
to lead to all truth
THY WILL, NOT MINE
How to follow
Thy Will how to love
not mine and by your light
is a place to take my cares how to die

Thy Will To want it

not mine and see it
is a place to leave my wants and speak it -
the Truth
Thy Will
not mine As the guide to light my feet
is a place to lay my head down
Show me the Truth
Thy Will for that is You
not mine
To be free from sin
is a place to leave my life
to love

THEN AND NOW

I am a follower of Christ then and now

I walk with Him through the dusty roads of the world

I am in awe of His miracles

and his words, and His love

Through His Holy words

I can be there with Him
to see the person He was-and is

I am Peter, who could walk on water for a moment

And then fell from his own fear
I am afraid my own boat in this world will sink
Even though He is in it with me

I am Mary, who washed His feet with my tears

And I am with them when He washed my feet with His love

I am John who stands beneath the cross

and see His ultimate gift of love
And run with Him to the tomb
which is empty of all death
Always
I have had Him explain great mysteries
of another way of life, another world to me

And I have seen that we can once again

dwell with God - in love

It is a new world when He is in it

And only a taste of being with Him for all times

I walk with Him who is with us

Always

ABSENCE

Oh the pain when I am absent from You

I board a vehicle of doubt and self will and unforgiveness
and travel to a desert where there is no water
to a void where there is no Light
to a land where there is no Life

Rededication and rejuvenation and realization

often accompany me
And so I am thankful for the journey

But I am so weary and lost without your peace and your joy
I am sustained because I know when I turn my footsteps home once more
You will be waiting
For you have promised, you will never leave me

The Lord of the universe helps me find my glasses

How much more will He help me find his way

ALL

The myriad of things You have made

Are to me such an awesome wonder
The fish of a million hues
And the waves that roar like thunder

The glory of bamboo and redwood

And the flowers both great and small
The stars strewn throughout the heavens
And the crash of the sea at dawn

But Oh, Holy Lord, thou Eternal

Not one of thy creatures is seen
When compared with the light of thy brilliance
That shines from without thy face

For in Thee rests all of Glory

All past
All now
All to come

Touch us that we might know Thee

And have Life in Thy love at last

WITHIN

Within us is another world

a temple and a cross

We come to Him within that world

to adore Him, repent and be changed

It is the road, the narrow road

that takes us to our Lord

We must but come and wait on Him

till He frees us from our flesh

The drawing near to hear and see

the way we are and can be

To stand in the light while we see our heart

and are changed by his power and grace

Out of darkness, free from sin

to live pure - with Him in love

The kingdom is within us there

to be with Him
and to see Him

Why would we ever want to be

other than there
with Him
as One

THE LORD’S PRAYER

This is not an ordinary prayer

But then He gave it to us
As a model of the way we should commune with Him How
gracious He is that He would show us in a few ‘simple
words’
The way most pleasing to Him
How we should come into His presence
And how to live our lives

A Gift to You In Return

You left your throne and all its power,

To redeem us from our slavery to sin.
 You gave us our life on the earth,
And now offer us life in the heavens.

Help us to give to you in return,

Our selfish nature to its final death.

Show us how to follow your lead,

To crucify our passions and our flesh.

Teach us how to live righteously,

So it pleases you and your Father.

Lead us in your footsteps,

So we will succeed, not falter.

So we can be one forever, together,

In your Kingdom of Love and Peace.

So we may walk with purpose pure,

To serve you and your holy desires.

Help us to give our lives to you,

Our lives as a living sacrifice,
Our gift to the Holy Child.

That you may rule

all our words and actions
as our Master
Eternal Lord and King.

KINGDOM

FATHER
Bring Thy kingdom into our hearts

To call You Father

has in it such wonder Let us sing out
our love to your glory

That we of flesh
could ever be your children Let us sing out
our love to our brothers

Your holiness and glory

are so far removed from us Let us give ourselves
to your pleasure

From all that we

by nature tend to be Let us give
ourselves to each other

But You came down

and put your arms around us Pour your sweet love
 over our lives

And carried us to You

on wings of love And make us as
You’d have us to be

And so we do
most humbly call You Father
BREAD

While You see us as we can be

You are the bread
Through love
which sustains us in life

THY WILL We feed on your Life

your words and your love

Thy will is like

a rose in summer You offer yourself
as the food for our growing

It blooms into something

beauteous to see We follow after
down life’s dusty roads

If we will but give

our will to yours Feed us, my King
with your truth and your spirit

We too will bloom

to purity All else will follow
with You as our Lord

TRESPASSES
TEMPTATION

As the day ends

and I walk back thru it with You Let us not be tempted
to stray from off your path

I can see it
thru your all loving eyes Let not our pride
or resentment lead us hence

None has wronged me

when I see with your clear vision Keep us safe
with feet toward You drawing

Thankful am I
that You see me thru those eyes Bring us at last
to kneel before your love

FOREVER LOVE

Your Kingdom When we look at another

is beauteous, oh my Lord
Your Power
we cannot even picture
Your Glory
shines thru all eternity
And we would see them all
we look not for them to serve us
but we look for us
to be of service to them.
Before in lust we looked
for them to do for us.
Now in love we look
for us to do for them.
 and dwell with Thee
For in them we see you,
Forever
and a mirror of ourselves,
and we want to help
rather than be helped.

Thank you our Father

thank you my Savior,
for giving yourself to me,
so I can give of thee to them.

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YOUR HOLY WILL

"The gift of my will is a gift of ME "

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Teach me to do your will; for you are my God: your spirit is good; lead me into the land
of uprightness. Ps. 143:10

The will of our glorious God is for us to know Him, to seek Him as our first priority, and
be drawn out of darkness by our love for Him. To give up living to our own will and die
to self. To give to others as if to Him. To believe in the Light which is Him, and wait
quietly for Him who is within each of us, so He can re-create us to be pure as He is
pure, and bring us to see Him in his glory. To adore Him forever, and to be his sons, in
total union with Him - so that all of our judgments, words, and actions are controlled
by the promptings of God - His will, not our will.

To seek Him as our first priority

But seek you first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto
you. Mat 6:33

To seek God, find him, and be united with him is the single and sole purpose of life. He [God]
has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and
has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should
seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not
far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being; one God and Father of all, who
is over all and through all and in you all.

Keep on seeking and you will find. Mat 7:7

..Seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with
all your soul. Deu 4:2

You must do the will of the Father to not be banned from heaven.
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Mat 7:21
Even those who think they are Christians, will be banned, unless they do the will of the Father, which he
told us:
This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him! Luke 9:35
So you must come to Jesus, silently listen, hear him speak to you, and then obey his commands.

To believe in the light – which is Him

In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4

He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. 1
Cor 4:5
While you have light, believe in the light, that you may be the children of light. John 12:36
[While in the Light, as it shows you the condition and motives of your heart and teaches you,
believe in the light - that the Light is Christ, who is the Light;
that you may become children of the Light. For in Christ is the Life, the light of all men. And God is Light.]

In his Journal, George Fox spoke of turning inward to the Light:

I showed them the true worship which Christ had set up, and distinguished Christ the true way from all
the false ways, opening the parables to them, and turning them from darkness to the true light, that by
it they might see themselves, their sins, and Christ their savior; that believing in him they might be
saved from their sins.

I am the Light of the world, he that follows me shall not wait in darkness, but shall have the Light of
Life. John 8:12

To give up living to our own will and die to self, so we can live by His will
In Letter Number 45, George Fox said:
And they that were of the second birth, were taught of God,
and needed no man to teach them; and were come into the everlasting covenant.
And those are the second birth,
who are born again of the immortal seed by the will of God, and not by the will of man.

To leave the pleasures and lusts of this life and turn to Him
That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. 1
Pet. 4:2

For it is written: they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:8

To turn inward and wait quietly for Him to re-create us to be pure like Him
As George Fox wrote of in his Letter Number 56:
Therefore, hearken to that, and take heed to that which calls your minds
out of the vile affections, and the world's lusts, to have them renewed;
the same will turn your minds to God,
the same light will set your affections above,
and bring you to wait for the pure wisdom from God from on high,
that it may be justified.
Wait all in that which calls your minds inward, and turns them to God;
and here is the cross witnessed,
that the mind shall feed upon nothing but the pure light of God,
and on the living food which comes from the living God.

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:14. That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered
out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him,
all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-75

Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation. Psa 62:1

Let Your mercy and loving kindness, O Lord, be upon us in proportion to our waiting and hoping for
You. Ps. 33:22

To give to others as if we are giving to Him, because He is in each person:

'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to
Me.’ Matt 25:40

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. Love does
no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Rom. 13:8-10 [But until you are
filled with love, by dying to self, you cannot completely love your neighbor as yourself, nor can you
fulfill the law, yet.]

To defer - yielding our will to others - as a practice to make our own will subside.
We should do this in all cases, unless it is immoral, dangerous, or of major consequence.
And he sat down, and called the twelve, and said to them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be
last of all, and servant of all. Mk 9:35

Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Phil 2:4

If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another's feet.
John 13:14

To worship him in Spirit and truth

Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and
truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship
in spirit and in truth."John 4:23-24
We should, indeed, surrender our whole being unto Christ; and cease to live any longer in ourselves, we
are lost in him; and this can be effected only by the annihilation of self, which being the true prayer
of adoration, renders unto “God, and unto the Lamb, blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, forever
and ever.”
This is the prayer of truth: it is “worshiping God is spirit and truth.” because we here come to know
the Spirit to help our infirmities, and make intercession for us; and being thus influenced by the pure
spirit of God, we are thereby drawn forth and freed from our own carnal and corrupt manner of praying
[to that of quiet waiting]. We can pay due honor to the Almighty only in our own annihilation which is
no sooner accomplished, than he, who never suffers a void in nature, instantly fills us with himself.
From: Guide to True Peace

It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit,
and they are life. John 6:63

George Fox in his Journal talks about this worship of silence:

So all may come to drink into that one spirit, that does baptize them and circumcise them, plunging
down and cutting off the body of the sins of the flesh, that is got up in man and woman by
their transgressing of God's commands. So that in this holy pure spirit all may serve and worship the
pure God in spirit and in truth.

He has given us free will so that we have the possibility of giving something precious
to Him: the gift of our will.
And He said to me, “The gift of My will is a gift of Me”
Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved
by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21

We should give up our whole existence unto God, from the strong and positive conviction, that while we
are faithfully endeavoring to follow him, the occurrence of every moment is agreeable to his immediate
will and permission, and just such as our state requires. From : A Guide to True Peace

Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for you are the God of my salvation; on you do I wait all the day. Ps 25:5

We can trust our Lord's will to complete his union with us because he is
all knowing, all wisdom, all loving:

He knows all – He walks outside of time –sees all that has happened and all that will
happen, and can change it whenever it is good to do so. He can change the universe to
his ends.

That which has been is now; and that which is to be has already been. Ecc 3:15

Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened
since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come— yes, let him foretell what will come.
Isa 44:7

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which
are seen were not made of things which do appear. Heb 11:3

Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was,
I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit have sent Me.” Isa 48:16

Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none
like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,' Isa. 46:9-10

I once saw His face in meditation-and Eternity went out from it

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, said the Lord, which is, and
which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev. 1:8

He is wisdom – He sees when and how existence should be changed – so to be guided

by Him should be our fondest hope.

He has made the earth by his power, he has established the world by his wisdom, and has stretched
out the heavens by his discretion. Jer 10:12

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened
unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Heb 4:13

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his
judgments, and his ways past finding out! Rom 11:33
 Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, The Creator of the ends of
the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable. Isa. 40:28

The Lord formed and brought me [Wisdom] forth at the beginning of His way, before His acts of old.
I [Wisdom] was inaugurated and ordained from everlasting, from the beginning, before ever the
earth existed...Then I [Wisdom] was beside Him as a master and director of the work; and I was daily
His delight, rejoicing before Him always Prov 8:22-31

[And Jesus, in his wisdom said], Repentance and remission of sin should be preaches to all nations.
Luke 24:47

He is holy goodness, faithfulness and love – so He sees from the perspective of

unselfish giving, from purity – what is best for each person, each moment.

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into
the world, that we might live through him. 1 John 4:9

And we have known and believed the love that God has to us. God is love; and he that dwell in love
dwells in God, and God in him. 1 John 4:16

Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and
True. Rev 19:11
Faithful is he that called you, who also will do it. 1Th 5:24

For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things
present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to
separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:38-39

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Luke 12:32
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your
Father’s will. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear therefore; you are of more
value than many sparrows. Mat 10:29-31

We are blind to what is best- even to what is happening- so to have his all knowing
will is a treasure.
And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have
not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do
unto them, and not forsake them. Isa 42:16

When you get in a place of trouble, failings, doubt, dryness, guilt, temptation, fear,
wants … throw yourself on His will, and he will make it Perfect.
He is a shield to cover and protect us when we trust his moving in our life.

He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Psa 91:1

Keep me as the apple of Your eye; Hide me under the shadow of Your wings. Psa 17:8

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Pro 30:5

Casting the whole of your care [all your anxieties, all your worries, all your concerns, once and for all]
on Him, for He cares for you affectionately and cares about you watchfully. 1Pe 5:7

The eternal God is your refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the
enemy from before you; Deut 33:27

For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help
you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Isa 41:10

Fear not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will show to you today... The LORD
shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace. Ex 14:13-14

In meditation I heard Him say: "You are with the Power of the universe"

You have your keeper, the power of God, which neither slumbers nor sleeps, and it will keep you
unto that day. George Fox Letter #265 , Psa 121:5
I, the Lord, am its Keeper; I water it every moment; lest anyone harm it, I guard and keep it night and
day. Isa 27:3

...All things are naked and opened to the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Heb 4:13
Even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore Luke 12:7

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who
has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. Heb 4:15
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just ...to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Phil 4:19

When we follow, what comes is of Him. He showed me to wait, and He would bring His
will to me.

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles;
they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa 40:31

George Fox wrote about the support of the Lord when he waited on his help:
But the Lord did fix my desires upon himself, from whom my help came, and my cares were cast on
him alone. Therefore, all wait patiently upon the Lord, whatever condition. [so we can pray that He make us
desire Him and that He anchor us to Him]

But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing James. 1:4
For: In patience possess ye your souls. Luke 21:19

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the
called according to his purpose. Rom 8:28

Our soul waits for the LORD: he is our help and our shield. Ps 33:20
Wait on the LORD; be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart; Wait, I say, on the LORD!
Psa 27:14

That is, the LORD God of hosts. The LORD is His memorable name. So you, by the help of your
God, return; Observe mercy and justice, and wait on your God continually. Hosea 12:5-6

For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, nor has the eye seen
any God besides You, who acts for the one who waits for Him. Isa 64:4

When we follow his will and are led out of the world to Him, He has promised us
things almost beyond comprehension. To be his brethren, to share in the divine nature,
and to be united with Him eternally.

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers
of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 2Pe 1:4

From George Fox's Letter Number 260:

Truth makes free from all these; and makes free to be partakers of Christ Jesus,
and of his blood, and his spirit, and mind;
who is the prince of peace, and prince of life;
and makes free to be partakers of the divine nature and precious faith;

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister,
and mother. Mat. 12:50

In meditation I saw that after He has brought us to be pure and holy, we can mingle with his essence-
like two breaths joining as One. Then we will see, as He sees-and feel Him always with us, never to
be apart. We are still there, but we do whatever He see is to be done-and adore Him as He truly Is.

And the glory which you gave me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in
them, and you in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that you have
sent me, and have loved them, as you have loved me. John 17:22-23

"BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART, FOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD" Mat 5:8

The Lord calls His Father’s will: "Your good pleasure," and "good in your sight."
He treasured and extolled the goodness of that will. So should we treasure his will for us.

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you
have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for
so it seemed good in your sight. Luke 10:21

Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he
has purposed in himself: Eph 1:9

For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Phl 2:13 [so we
can pray that He will make us want to do His will]

For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither has the eye
seen, O God, beside you, what he has prepared for him that waits for him. Isa 64:4

He is the Lord of the universe, and even He did not do his own will.

Then I said, 'Behold, I have come - In the volume of the book it is written of Me-- To do Your will, O
God.' Hbr 10:7

The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise. John 5:19
I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My
own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30 [So, even Christ did not make his own
decisions. Notice, Jesus said he only did the will of the Father, not his own. In Mat. 7:21, Jesus said:
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the
will of My Father in heaven. So here Jesus tells us what is necessary to go to heaven - to do nothing
of ourselves - to only say what we hear the father tell us to say- to only do what the Father shows us to do
- to only judge how we are told to judge by the Father. So, we are not to think for ourselves - we are to
only follow the promptings of the Father. We must have our carnal mind destroyed to the point that
we speak and act from the promptings of the Spirit of God; this is the end of obedience - to
think, speak, and act according to God's promptings.]

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I
should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatever I
speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. John 12:49-50

"Now my heart is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? No, it was for this
very reason I came to this hour. Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, "I
have glorified it, and will glorify it again." John 12:27-28

Saying, Father, if you be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but yours, be
done. Luke 22:42

Then said Jesus to Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall
I not drink it?
John 18:11

But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so
I do.
John 14:31
But [Satan is coming and] I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know
(be convinced) that I love the Father and that I do only what the Father has instructed Me to do. [I act
in full agreement with His orders.] Rise, let us go away from here. John 14:31 (Amplified Bible)

I have glorified you on the earth: I have finished the work which you gave me to do. John 17:4

The Lord is our pattern to copy and follow. He shows us how to die so that we might
come to be reconciled to God. To give our life in the flesh as the ultimate gift.

For I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:38

And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that
please him. John 8:29

Not every one that said unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does
the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:21.

So all people may see by Christ's own words, that their saying and speaking of God and Christ, and
his prophets and apostles, signifies nothing, except they do his will; that is, practice it, and be obedient
to what he commands and requires.
From George Fox's Letter 321

Indeed You are to them as a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on
an instrument;
for they hear your words, but they do not do them. Eze 33:32
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. James 1:22

If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my
Father's commandments, and abide in his love. John 15:10.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends, if
you do whatsoever I command you. John 15:13-14

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up
his cross, and follow me.
Mat. 16:24 And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

So deny yourself and "pick up your cross daily to follow him." Luke 9:23

He died on the cross to show us how to die on our spiritual cross.

He is the pattern Son, to show us how to die spiritually to self.
And the cross to us is nothing compared to his. It is easy and light.
When we sit and wait on Him and watch for at least an hour, our will is to get up and do something else.
When He shows us our condition, our will is to run or deny that we are that bad.
When He commands to give up doing certain things, our will is to keep doing them.
So when we do the opposite of our will and repent, we are on the cross, dying to self.
This is the process of repentance.
Here we can be led by Him, cleansed by Him, taught by Him, and come to Know Him.
Our death is a spiritual death.
To share the cross with Christ, however light ours is.
To share death with Christ, however easy ours is.
To share the resurrection with Christ, both to his glory.
We see the effects of the changes in us-in breathless awe and loving thanksgiving,
and we begin to understand why he came and what he is doing.

For Jesus said: "except you repent, you shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:3,5

If any other way but bearing the cross, and dying to his own will, could have redeemed man from a
fallen and corrupt state, Jesus would have taught it, and established it by his example. (From: Guide to
True Peace )

Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, existing in the form of God, counted not
the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a
servant, being made in the likeness of men; and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled
himself, becoming obedient even unto death, yes, the death of the cross. Phil 2:5-8

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you
and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke
is easy and My burden is light.” [I saw in meditation that taking his yoke upon us is being trained,
and suffering through the cleansing process to the point of having his will rather than our own. Then
the yoke and the burden is easy and we have rest.] Mat 11:28-30

Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love. 1Cr 16:13

By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the
left 2 Cor 6:7

Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving; Col 4:2

He died to bring us into a fully resurrected state, with His spirit and power leading us.
Also, so we can then help others die to self and grow to maturity in Him. This is His
garden of love – to grow love by the choice of giving and love, rather than self will.

And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily,
I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die, it
brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall keep
it unto life eternal. If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be:
if any man serve me, him will my Father honor. John 12:23-26

From George Fox's Journal:

…and God's tender blade, which springs up from his seed of life, who waters it with his heavenly water
and word of life every moment, that they may grow and be fruitful... My dear friends, my desire is, that
this heavenly seed, that bruises down the head of the serpent both within and without, may be your
crown and life, and you in him one another's crown and joy, to the praise of the Lord God over all,
blessed for evermore.

From George Fox's Letter Number 24:

but grow up in the inner man, (putting off the old man with his deeds)
as trees of righteousness, which the Lord has planted,
growing in wisdom and understanding to do the will of God,
and not your own wills.
He that does the will of God abides in that which endures forever

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. Hbr
12:14 (From meditation we were given understanding that part of pursuing peace with every man is
to never say anything critical about anyone or any group - however they might really deserve it; leave
it unsaid. This trains the mind to be tolerant and therefore more peaceful with others. When we
get completed, with spiritual discernment, the Lord can lead us to any criticisms he feels that
are necessary.)

As George Fox said in his journal: by your fruits is he glorified, (as Christ said), in your bringing forth
much fruit, fruits of righteousness, holiness, godliness, virtue, truth, and purity;This is to my
Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples John 15:8

While we are seeking with all our heart, turning over our will to yours as a cross to
our will, we can accept with sureness whatever comes. It brings such confidence to
have Your ordering of our seeking and walking and life – and to have the promise of
Your direction when we become pure. You order the universe so that all things
come together for good for those who love God. The more we give our will to Yours,
the easier it is to guide us.

Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass. And he shall bring
forth your righteousness as the light, and your judgment as the noonday. Ps. 37:5-6

This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. Ps 118:23

And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of God abides forever 1 John 2:17

In order to be freed from this darkness where we exist, we have to follow our guide and
our Lord, but why would we not want to. He is the glory, the power, the wisdom, the love
of the universe, and He wants us united as one with Him. To bring us out of lusts to
a sinless state; to have His divine nature, to share His existence, to adore Him - and even
to bring glory to His name.

He once said to me, "This is the hardest thing - This is the Only thing."

It is not an easy thing, this redirection of our very being, but it is the joy, the hope,
the reason for life.

And he said, The God of our forefathers has destined and appointed you to come progressively to know
His will [to perceive, to recognize more strongly and clearly, and to become better and more
intimately acquainted with His will], and to see the Righteous One (Jesus Christ, the Messiah), and to hear
a voice from His [own] mouth and a message from His [own] lips Acts 22:14

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1 John 2:3. And they that
are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Gal 5:24

Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. James 4:8

Once as I was praying for Him to bring me to the most that He would have me be – then I saw
Him standing near me – in such power and majesty and purity and splendor, that I could not
breathe. And He looked at me and said to me, “I want you to be me.” And I knew He meant: “unto
the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ Eph 4:13.” I saw He was so far above us that it
was beyond description, and I knew that ONLY He could bring me to that. But I also immediately
knew that all things are possible with Him, and so I could accept that He could make that
cataclysmic change. And in that knowing, my faith in Him grew, and an even more experiential hope
for the fulfilling of his wondrous great promise. We are truly to be brought to be holy as He is holy –
into the beauty and majesty, and the divine nature that is Him - so we can be One with Him forever.
Oh, the goodness – that He would share Himself with us so.

Christ in you, the hope of glory Col 1:27

'Speak, Lord, for now your poor servants hear.’ Oh! that your will may be done, your great, your good
and holy will, in earth as it is in heaven! Do it in us, do it upon us, do what you will with us; for we
are yours, and desire to glorify you our Creator, both for that, and because you are our redeemer. For
you are redeeming us from the earth, from the vanities and pollution's of it, to be a peculiar people to
you. William Penn

The more we give up our will and welcome His, the more we are given to see
that everything that comes in front of us is controlled and directed by Him. Each
step directed, our eyes as His see. There is such peace in this knowing. There is an
infusion of sureness - that the completion of our dream, our quest, is assured.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your
mind, that you may prove what is
that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Rom 12:2

If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. John 8:36
 Rejoice, you have left "the broad way" and found the narrow way that leads to LIFE
that few find.
Mat 7:13

For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither has the eye seen,
O God, beside you, what he has prepared for him that Waits for him. Isa 64:4

Teach me to do your will; for you are my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land
of uprightness.
Psa 143:10

If anyone chooses to do God's will,

he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak
on my own.
John 7:17
Go

LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF

(Text in light blue can be clicked on - to take you to the scriptural verse or other writings that
confirms the text.)

Christ is the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world. John 1:9

Christ is in every person, chained down waiting to be released, so when you give to
anyone, you give to Him who is in prison.

All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life;
and the life was the light of men John 1:3-4

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created
he them. Gen. 1:27

'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to
Me.’ Mat 25:40

So my neighbor was made by God, just as I was; and my neighbor has Christ within
him just as I do. So my neighbor and I are the same.

Did not he that made me in the womb make him [my neighbor]? and did not one fashion us in the
womb? Job 31:15

And the second (commandment) is like it, and is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is
no other commandment greater than these." Mark 12:31

The first commandment is to love God with all of our heart, soul and strength, and when
we approach the end of our journey to Him, we will be able to love Him so with all.
But until we approach the finish, we can practice loving our neighbor as ourselves.
Thus we can fulfill the law as we walk toward Him, to the benefit and joy of our own
souls; but also to the benefit of others and even to the freeing of the Christ in others.
Our good ways are seen and appreciated by Christ in them. Even smiles to others are
smiles to the Christ within them. What we do for others, we do for Christ.

‘For I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you
took Me in; was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came
to Me.' Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You,
or thirsty and give You drink?' ... And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to
you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.' Mat 25:35-37, 40

If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother
whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1 John 4:20

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. Love does
no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Rom. 13:8,10 But until you are
filled with love, by dying to self, you cannot completely love your neighbor as yourself, nor can you
fulfill the law, yet.

George Fox in Letter Number 53 says:

You can reach the spirit of God in others and even win them to God with your chaste conversation and
your godly conduct, without saying anything about God.

Love is patient, love is kind, it is not jealous; love does not brag, is not arrogant, does not act
unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes
all things, endures all things; love never fails. 1Cor.13:4-7

A KEY teaching which we received from Him in meditation is: to defer (yield your will)
to others - our children, our husbands, our wives, our friends. Practicing this alone
can result in significant spiritual progress. You should do this in all cases, unless it
is immoral, dangerous, or of major consequence. This should be especially easy for
wives who are to be submissive to their husbands, and children who are to obey
their parents. We who are His, are charged to put ourselves last. Husbands and
parents and friends- this is your opportunity to defer to one another. And by doing this,
we put to death our selfish will, which wants to put ourselves first. Instead, we put Him
and his ways first. Love does not demand its own way.

Love does not demand its own way. Love is not irritable, and it keeps no record of when it has
been wronged. 1Cor 13:5

And he sat down, and called the twelve, and said unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall
be last of all, and servant of all. Mk 9:35

Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Phl 2:4

If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. John13:14

We have come into the grateful servitude of doing good. This is not a burden
once practiced, for it feeds your spirit within as well as your neighbors’ spirit. He tells us
to just turn loose and give, and feel the joy of it.

But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Mat 6:3

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in
their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27

I understood in meditation that the more a person understands love - if only by recieving it - the
easier purification becomes in this life or the next, so giving is a spiritual blessing to the giver and
the reciever.

Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen: to loose the chains of injustice and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free and break every yoke?
Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe him, and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
Then your light will break forth like the dawn, and your healing will quickly appear;
then your righteousness will go before you, and the glory of the LORD will be your rear guard.
Then you will call, and the LORD will answer; you will cry for help, and he will say: Here am I.
"If you do away with the yoke of oppression, with the pointing finger and malicious talk,
and if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry and satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
then your light will rise in the darkness, and your night will become like the noonday.
The LORD will guide you always; he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land and will strengthen
your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden, like a spring whose waters never fail. Isa 58:6-11

But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how
does the love of God abide in him? 1 John 3:17

George Fox also has a beautiful letter on giving. George Fox Letter 321

The Lord has said to me in meditation “Salvation is not judging” so this has always
been precious to me. It is a great injury to judge the spirit or the walk of another
person. We are to build up one another; considering nothing lost and despairing of no one.

A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to
victory; Mat 12:20 So he doesn’t give up on us, no matter how weak we are; and we
are challenged to feel the same about others as Christ does.

George Fox said in his Journal:

My desires are that you may live and walk in his peaceable truth, and show evidence that you are children
of the light and of the truth; for the heavenly, gentle, peaceable wisdom is justified of her children.
But debate, strife, willfulness, laying open one another's nakedness and weakness, is not
the practice of heavenly wisdom's children, (but of Ham's), nor from the spirit of Christ;
neither such as bite and tear one another; that is from a devouring spirit, not the spirit
of Jesus, which covers that which is not proper, and can forgive.( also see his letter #47 on judging.)

Instead of judging we are given the loving charge to forgive, so we are able to continue
our giving to His spirit in prison.

But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray
for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for
He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. Mat 5:44-45

Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?
Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy
times seven." Mat 18:21-22
(He showed me that I could not judge another person - because I did not live inside them - I don't
know what they have been through in their life.)

And pray for your enemies, for the Lord to open them and their hearts, and see themselves and you.
George Fox, Letter 30.

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake
hath forgiven you. Eph 4:32

The Lord also said recently to me, “As your eyes are closed to the sins of others, so
doubly are my eyes closed to yours.” This would be incentive enough to comply, but it
also shows how important it is to Him for the sake of other’s spirits and our own. To be
able to love you neighbor, you have to overlook their flaws, their past wrongs to you,
their bad habits; to do this, you have to forgive; and to forgive, you have to show mercy
to them, realizing that they are no more messed up than you are or once were. And
since God forgives you, you forgive your neighbor, showing them the same mercy that
God shows you.
He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does the Lord require of you But to do justly, To
love mercy, And to walk humbly with your God? Micah 6:8

But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice.' Mat. 9:13
I want you to be merciful; I don't want your sacrifices. I want you to know God; that's more important
than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6

Hatred stirs up strife: but love covers all sins. Pro 10:12

And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” Then he
knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin.” And when he had
said this, he fell asleep [in death]. Acts 7:59-60

The discretion of a man makes him slow to anger, And his glory is to overlook a transgression. Pro. 19:11

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Mat 5:7

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. Matt 6:14-15
forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us. Luke 11:4.

Now love creates love, its own nature and image: and when mercy and truth meet, what joy there is!
Mercy triumphs over judgment; and love and mercy bear the judgment of the world in patience.
George Fox's Journal

Paul explains in Titus what the Lord’s purpose is, why he came. He wanted a different
kind of people to make his own. A people like Him, full of love, to fill the world around
them with love.

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:14. That he would grant unto us, that we being
delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and
righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-75

And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. 1 John 3:3

Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13

This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our
lives for our brothers. 1Jhn 3:16

For to completely love others as ourselves, we must be filled with love, and to be filled
with love, we must loose our fleshly life. When we do this, we are laying down our life
for Christ, the Father, and of course - Our friends around us; so that we can somehow
help them to see the wonder, glory, and love of God - in hopes that they too can come
to experience HIM. To loose our fleshly life, we must die to self on the cross.

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your first priority, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish
will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish will
Here is the way to be led by Him, changed by Him, taught by Him, and come to Know Him
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is a
cross to your will
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but you repent from your selfishness and give- it is a
 cross to your will
● you don't want to defer to others, rather than insist on your way, but you repent and do it - it is a cross
to your selfish will
So deny yourself and "pick up your cross daily to follow him." Luke 9:23

And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

Rejoice, you have left "the broad way" and found the "narrow way that leads to LIFE that few find. Mat. 7:13

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2Cor 7:1

those who use the things of the world, [use them] as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its
present form is passing away.
1Cor 7:31

So, Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the
Lord out of a pure heart.
2 Ti 2:22

Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 1Pe 1:16.

Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Jam 4:8

Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done
in love. 1Cr 16:13

if I have not love I am nothing... If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body
to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing. 1 Cor 13:2-4

Then we will be given the blessing of freedom from the pain, bondage, guilt, and distress
of sin, and we have gained LOVE, PEACE, JOY, and the freedom from being separated
from our Lord.

And then, "being made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness." Rom 6:18.

Christ has created each of us in His image with His spirit within, and if we would be
like Him we will treasure each person as Him, and give to them all the love, mercy,
and hope that we have to give. Thus can we be like our Father who gives to all and loves
all. The whole purpose of this world is to create love; and perfect love is created within
the crowning achievement of Christ's creation - man restored back to the spirit of
God within, from women and men born in sin, led out of the darkness, to life - the life
of Christ in love - sons of God.

I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your
flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Eze 36:26

Follow peace with all men,

and holiness,
without which no man shall see the Lord: Hbr 12:14 (From meditation we were given
understanding that part of pursuing peace with every man is to never say anything critical about
anyone or any group - however they might really deserve it; leave it unsaid. This trains the mind to
be tolerant and therefore more peaceful with others. When we get completed, with spiritual
discernment, the Lord can lead us to any criticisms he feels that are necessary.)

A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love
one another. John13:34

Then I will give them a heart to know Me, that I am the Lord; and they shall be My people, and I will be
their God, for they shall return to Me with their whole heart. Jer 24:7
 LOVE

When we look at another

we look not for them to serve us
but we look for us
to be of service to them.

Before in lust we looked

for them to do for us.

Now in love we look

for us to do for them.

For in them we see You,

and a mirror of ourselves,
and we want to help
rather than be helped.

Thank you our Father

thank you my Savior,
for giving yourself to me,
so I can give of Thee to them.

COME LET US LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR

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To Know You, The Only True God

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And this is eternal life, that they may know You,

the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
John 17:3

If we are to know Him, we cannot just read the writings of others who have been
touched by Him;
we must come to Him, and be taught by Him about himself, as we wait quietly on Him
who is within each of us.
Here He will reveal himself to us in a very personal way. And He will show us
ourselves,
so we can repent and be changed - and He can know us.
George Fox once said that thirty minutes in the light is worth a lifetime.
It is our life breath who love Him.

David also loved this waiting on God:

Be still, and know that I am God Psa 46:10

Lift up your heads, O you gates; be lifted up, you ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in.
Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Psa 24:7-8

The sort of prayer to which we have alluded is that of inward silence; where the soul, abstracted from
all outward things, in holy stillness, humble reverence, and lively faith, waits patiently to feel the
Divine Presence, and lively faith, and waits patiently to receive the precious influence of the Holy
Spirit. From: Guide to True Peace
He said to me: (When you are in meditation) - "Every time you return [your thoughts] to Me - the
Father knows it."

Seek the Lord and His strength; yearn for and seek His face and to be in His presence continually!
1Chron 16:11

I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me. Pro 8:17

Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Jam 4:8

Deep calls to deep Psa 42:7

This wonderful quest is the blessing of this lifetime - and forever - to become more
deeply and intimately acquainted with Him. As Paul- who had no writings said:
Father Enter the Kingdom of Heaven I count everything as loss compared to the possession of the priceless privilege of knowing Christ Jesus
My Lord, and of progressively becoming more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him. Phl 3:8

For my determined purpose is that I may know Him [that I may progressively become more deeply and
intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His
Person more strongly and more clearly], and that I may in that same way come to know the power
outflowing from His resurrection [which it exerts over believers], and that I may so share His sufferings
as to be continually transformed [in spirit into His likeness even] to His death Phl 3:10

And he said, The God of our forefathers has destined and appointed you to come progressively to know
His will [to perceive, to recognize more strongly and clearly, and to become better and more intimately
acquainted with His will], and to see the Righteous One (Jesus Christ, the Messiah), and to hear a
voice from His own mouth and a message from His own lips Acts 22:14

The following are a few of my favorite glimpses of Him. You will have your own if you
seek him.

OUR GOD IS A GREAT AND TERRIBLE GOD

Once I saw into a wonder... an opening into something that could not be seen, only
perceived; for It was spirit – and so pure and so glorious and so powerful and so Holy
as to be beyond description. And I heard a voice say “Our terrible, great God".

Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy. Ps. 99:3

HE IS MAJESTIC
Who is like You among the gods, O LORD? Who is like You, majestic in holiness, Awesome in praises,
working wonders? Ex. 15:11

Honor and majesty are before him, strength and beauty are in his sanctuary. Ps 96:6

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto
the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Heb 4:13

HE IS ONE - THERE IS NO OTHER

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Deut 6:4

Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none
like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,' Isa. 46:9-10

HE IS THE POWER
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if you have understanding...Or who
shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the
cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, And said, Here only shall you
come, but no further, and here shall your proud waves be stayed? Have you commanded the morning
since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;... Where is the way where light dwells? and
as for darkness, where is the place of it. Job Chapters 38-41

In meditation I heard Him say: "You are with the power of the Universe"

You have your keeper, the power of God, which neither slumbers nor sleeps, and it will keep you
unto that day. George Fox Letter #265 , Psa 121:5, Isa 27:3

HE IS HOLY
And Moses said, I beseechyou, show me your glory …You can not see my face for there shall no man see
me, and live ... And it shall come to pass, while my glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the
rock, and will cover you with my hand while I pass by And I will take away my hand, and you shall see
my back parts but my face shall not be seen ... And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed,
The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth.
Ex 33:18-22. 34:6

HE IS FAITHFUL
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keeps covenant and mercy
with them that love him and keep his commandments Deu 7:9

Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) Heb
10:23
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and
True. Rev 19:11

HE CAME AS A CHILD, WHO DID NOT CLING TO GLORY

Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus who, existing in the form of God, counted not the
being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant,
being made in the likeness of men; and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming
obedient even unto death, yes, the death of the cross. Phl 2:5-8

In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the
world, that we might live through Him. 1 John 4:9

HE GAVE HIMSELF SO WE COULD BECOME LIKE HIM

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with
glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. For it was fitting for Him,
for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the
captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Heb 2:9-10

HE IS HUMBLE
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest
for your souls. Mat 11:29

that you may be preserved and kept from that which is not of the Father … in the simplicity and
innocency of Christ Jesus. George Fox in Letter 37

George Fox in his journal also said: He that inhabits eternity dwells with a humble heart, and He gives
grace to the humble.

He is so loving and humble that He appreciates whatever thanks we give Him. It is so little for all He
gives. He will even bring forth more thankfulness if we ask.

HE IS ALL PATIENT
A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to
victory; Mat. 12:20

HE IS THE BELOVED
And a cloud threw a shadow upon them, and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is My Son, the
Beloved One; hear Him. Mark 9:7

"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no
one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." Mat 11:27

His voice and speech are exceedingly sweet; yes, he is altogether lovely [the whole of him delights and
is precious]. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem! Song 5:16

HE MADE ALL THERE IS – AND IS ALL

In meditation He showed me the ocean, and He spread out over it - and everything, including me,
was inside Him. And it was not just that He had created all, but that He was all.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the
beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was
made. In Him was life John 1:1-4. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Gen 1:2

By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are
seen were not made of things which are visible. Heb 11:3

In the last of these days He has spoken to us in Son, Whom He appointed Heir and lawful Owner of all
things, also by and through Whom He created the worlds and the reaches of space and the ages of time.
Heb 1:2

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches
out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Isaiah 40:22

When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in
place, what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? Psa 8:3-4

Jesus, who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature. For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or powers all things were created by him, and for him. And he is before all
things, and by him all things consist... For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness
dwell. Col 1:15-19
For in him we live, and move, and have our being. Acts 17:28

HE IS OUR GIFT FROM GOD

George Fox said: Christ, the treasure of wisdom and knowledge of God.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and
his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of
Peace. Isaiah 9:6

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One
and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift. 2 Cor 9:15

HE IS WITHIN EACH OF US
Christ is the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world. John 1:9

George Fox says in his letter Letter #240:

But the apostle [Paul] directed them all to know Christ the seed,
in the male and female,
and told them he preached Christ in them,
and bid them examine themselves, and prove themselves,
and to know him to be in them,
otherwise they were reprobates

I saw that when we wander off in meditation - He patiently stands in love and faithfulness and
humility until we come back.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in
and eat with him, and he with me. Rev 3:20

And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever—
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you
know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:16-18 [to guide, comfort, teach, cleanse, and love us each moment of every day.]

Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. Rom 1:19
[Paul is saying, that whatever is to be learned about God is to be revealed within a man.]

You ought to go to prayer [meditation], that you may deliver yourself wholly up into the hands of God,
with perfect resignation, exerting an act of faith, believing that you are in the Divine presence.
From: Molino's Spiritual Guide

Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

He is the wonder and the glory of all existence and we can know Him and be with Him.
He shows us the way to come to Him:

WE ARE TO LOVE HIM

And thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and
with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mark 12:30

you shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Ex 34:14 I
heard in meditation:"Keep you only unto Me"

You were bought with a price [purchased with a preciousness and paid for by Christ]; then do not yield
yourselves up to become slaves to men [but consider yourselves slaves to Christ]. 1 Cor 7:23

WE ARE TO BELIEVE HE REWARDS

For as Paul said, “he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who
diligently seek Him.”
Heb. 11:6

Let Your mercy and loving kindness, O Lord, be upon us in proportion to our waiting and hoping for
You. Ps. 33:22

Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief!”
Mark 9:24 [so we can pray that He help us trust Him more]

WE ARE TO CLING TO HIM

that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for
He is your life and the length of your days. Deut 30:20

WE ARE TO THIRST FOR HIM

O God, you are my God; early will I seek you. My soul thirsts for You; My flesh longs for You In a dry
and thirsty land where there is no water. Ps. 63:1

As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, O God. My soul thirsts for God, for the
living God. When can I go and meet with God? Psa 42:1-2

On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, "If anyone is thirsty,
let him come to me and drink." John 7:37

And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of
the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. Rev 21:6

WE ARE TO SEEK HIM

[He did this] so that they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel after him and find Him,
although He is not far from each one of us. Acts 17:27

In meditation He said, 'You can either spend your time correcting evil - or you can spend your time
seeking Me'

God... gives righteousness to everyone that loves it , to everyone whose intents are upright and single.
George Fox Letter #141

And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. Jer 29:13

Prize your time, and the love of the Lord to your souls above all things. George Fox Letter#
17
Whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that
appears for a little time and then vanishes away. James 4:14. Making the very most of the time, because
the days are evil. Eph 5:16. Seek the LORD while He may be found, call upon Him while He is near. Isa
55:6

WE ARE TO BESEECH HIM TO SHOW US HIS WAYS

Now therefore, I pray, if I have found grace in Your sight, show me now Your way, that I may know You
and that I may find grace in Your sight. Ex 33:13

WE ARE TO REVERENCE HIM

Behold, the reverential and worshipful fear of the Lord, that is wisdom, and to depart from evil is
understanding. Job 28:28

George Fox said in his Doctrinal Books - To fear God, is not to grieve nor offend Him, but to be subject
to Him and reverence Him.

WE ARE TO WALK HUMBLY WITH HIM

He has shown you, O man, what [is] good; and what does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, and
to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? Mic 6:8

Then Job answered the LORD and said: “I know that You can do everything, And that no purpose of
Yours can be withheld from You. You asked, ‘Who is this who hides counsel without
knowledge?’ Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,Things too wonderful for me, which I
did not know... "I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear, But now my eye sees You. Therefore I
abhor myself, And repent in dust and ashes.” Job 42: 2-6

"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and
said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home
justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself
will be exalted." Luke 18:13-14

WE ARE TO BE SLOW TO SPEAK

Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath. James
1:19

Some are so foolish as to interrupt and anticipate those that speak, instead of hearing and thinking
before they answer. From: William Penn's Maxims

And to him that orders his conversation aright will I show the salvation of God. Psa 50:23
WE ARE TO SEE HIM IN THE FACE OF CHRIST JESUS
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, has shined in our hearts, to give the light
of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2Cor 4:6

I will show (reveal, manifest) Myself to him. [I will let Myself be clearly seen by him and make Myself
real to him.] John 14:21

My inner self thirsts for God, for the living God. When shall I come and behold the face of God? Psa
42:2
The answer to this yearning is to be known within a man: Because what may be known of God is
manifest [revealed as in Revelation] in them, for God has shown it to them. Rom 1:19.
It is the blessing after the heart has been purified: "BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART, FOR THEY
SHALL SEE GOD" Mat 5:8

Christ said to me in meditation: "I am the face of God"

WE ARE TO WAIT ON HIM

Wait and hope for and expect the Lord; be brave and of good courage and let your heart be stout and
enduring. Yes, wait for and hope for and expect the Lord. Psa 27:14

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles;
they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa 40:31

Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation. Psa 62:1

Let Your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, be upon us, in proportion to our waiting and hoping for
You. Psa 33:22

WE ARE TO ABIDE IN HIM

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither
can you, unless you abide in Me. John 15:4

If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. John
15:7

As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. John 15:9

If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s
commandments and abide in His love. John 15:10

He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Psa
91:1

WE ARE TO LIVE TO HIM

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice,
holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. Rom 12:1

You were bought with a price [purchased with a preciousness and paid for, made His own]. So then,
honor God and bring glory to Him in your body. 1Cor 6:20

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar
people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:14. That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of
the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him, all
the days of our life. Luke 1:74-75

So, Since Christ suffered in the flesh, for you, arm yourselves with the same thought and purpose
[patiently to suffer rather than fail to please God]. For whoever has suffered in the flesh [having the
mind of Christ] is done with [intentional] sin [has stopped pleasing himself and the world, and pleases
God], So that he can no longer spend the rest of his natural life living by [his] human appetites and
desires, but [he lives] for what God wills. 1Peter 4:1-2

He has made extraordinary promises to us if we will but diligently hear Him, and
follow Him and obey Him:

HE WILL GIVE US A NEW HEART

I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your
flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Eze 36:26

Then I will give them a heart to know Me, that I am the Lord; and they shall be My people, and I will
be their God, for they shall return to Me with their whole heart. Jer 24:7
You are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living
God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart. 2 Cor 3:3

Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Psalm 51:10

HE WILL GIVE US NEW MINDS

I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be
My people. Jer 31:33

George Fox said in Letter Number 260 that:

Truth makes free to be partakers of Christ Jesus, and of his blood, and his spirit, and mind... and
makes free to be partakers of the divine nature and precious faith
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may
participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. 2Peter
1:4

From George Fox Letter Number#63: And so, his light being come to, all your own works are ceased
from, and your own thoughts, (which if you follow them, they will lead you into error.) " From his letter
#19: "but the carnal mind is to be taken away and destroyed."
Casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing
every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. 2 Cor 10:5

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you
may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Rom 12:2 For to be carnally
minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Rom 8:6

For "who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
1Cor 2:16

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HE WILL TEACH US HIMSELF

But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach
you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you. John 14:26

He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. 1
Cor 4:5
While you have light, believe in the light, that you may be the children of light. John 12:36
[While in the Light, as it shows you the condition and motives of your heart and teaches you,
believe in the light that the Light is Christ, who is the Light;
that you may become children of the Light. For in Christ is the Life, the light of all men. And God is
Light.]

Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of
Christ. Rom 10:17

You have no need of any teacher other than the anointing you have received, 1 John 2:27

Jesus said: "Take my yoke upon you and learn from me" Mat 11:29

George Fox's basic message was: that Christ had come to teach his people himself; and that the people
had no need of any teacher but the Light that was in all men and women, (the anointing they had
received.) And if people would be silent, waiting on God, the Light would teach them how to conduct
their lives, teach them about Christ, show them the condition of their hearts; and, they loving the Light,
it would rid them of the cause of sin.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he is
like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the
rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move it,
because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48

O you who dwell in the gardens, your companions have been listening to your voice--now cause me to
hear it. Song 8:13

Surely you desire truth in the inner parts; you teach me wisdom in the inmost place. Ps 51:6

Teach me to do your will; for you are my God: your spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness.
Psa 143:10

It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and
learns from him comes to me. John 6:45 (See: Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself )

In meditation I heard Him say: "I am a teacher"

HE WILL CLEANSE US
He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God
was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of
Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. 1 John 1:7

Cleanse me ... and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow. Psalm 51:7

On that day a fountain will be opened to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to
cleanse them from sin and impurity. Zechariah 13:1 ( Also: George Fox Letter 265 )

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you
and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke
is easy and My burden is light.” [I saw in meditation that taking his yoke upon us is being trained, and
suffering through the cleansing process to the point of having his will rather than our own. Then the
yoke and the burden is easy and we have rest.] Mat 11:28-30

As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us. Ps 103 :12

HE WILL MAKE US HIS TEMPLE

God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in
temples made with hands. Acts 17:24

Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1Cor 3:16

know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God,
and you are not your own?
1 Cor 6:19

HE WILL ESTABLISH HIS KINGDOM WITHIN US

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display. Nor will people
say, Look! Here it is! or, See, it is there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you, in your hearts
and among you. Luke 17:21

HE WILL SHOW US HOW TO PLEASE HIM

"He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be
loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him." John 14:21

And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. 1 John 3:3

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:8

If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother
whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1 John 4:20. A new commandment I
give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. John
13:34

Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed, avarice, lust, and
craving for earthly possessions] and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you
have]; for He Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without
support. [I will] not,[I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let you
down (relax My hold on you)! Assuredly not! Hebrews 13:5 (also see: George Fox on coveteousness)

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just,
whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there
be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Phl 4:8

You that love the LORD, hate evil. Ps 97:10

So, Flee also youthful lusts, but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the
Lord out of a pure heart.
2 Ti, 2:22

And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

So deny yourself and "pick up your cross daily to follow him." Luke 9:23
He died on the cross to show us how to die on our spiritual cross.
He is the pattern Son, to show us how to die spiritually to self.
And the cross to us is nothing compared to his. It is easy and light.
When we sit and wait on him and watch for at least an hour, our will is to get up and do
something else.
When He shows us our condition, our will is to run or deny that we are that bad.
When He commands to give up doing certain things, our will is to keep doing them.
So when we do the opposite of our will and repent, we are on the cross, dying to self.
Our death is a spiritual death.
To share the cross with Christ, however light ours is.
To share death with Christ, however easy ours is.
To share the resurrection with Christ, both to his glory.
Here we can be taught by Him, led by Him, changed by Him, and come to Know Him.
We see the effects of the changes in us- with wonder and loving thanksgiving,
and we begin to understand why he came and what he is doing.

If any other way but bearing the cross, and dying to his own will, could have redeemed man from a
fallen and corrupt state, Jesus would have taught it, and established it by his example.

He told me in meditation that my sorrow over a wrong was like a salve to any pain it had caused
Him - so go to Him with loving sorrow when you repent.

Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving; Col 4:2

Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done
in love. 1Cr 16:13

You were bought with a price [purchased with a preciousness and paid for by Christ]; then do not yield
yourselves up to become slaves to men [but consider yourselves slaves to Christ]. 1Cor 7:23

By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the
left 2 Cr 6:7

Rejoice, you have left "the broad way" and found the "narrow way that leads to LIFE that few find. Mat
7:13-14

HE WILL CALL US FRIENDS

No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called
you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. John 15:15

And he said, The God of our forefathers has destined and appointed you to come progressively to know
His will [to perceive, to recognize more strongly and clearly, and to become better and more intimately
acquainted with His will], and to see the Righteous One (Jesus Christ, the Messiah), and to hear a voice
from His [own] mouth and a message from His [own] lips Acts. 22:14

HE WILL MAKE US HOLY

Seeing you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit. 1 Peter 1:22

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Cor 7:1

Follow peace with all men,

and holiness,
without which no man shall see the Lord: Heb 12:14 (From meditation we were given
understanding that part of pursuing peace with every man is to never say anything critical about
anyone or any group - however they might really deserve it; leave it unsaid. This trains the mind to be
tolerant and therefore more peaceful with others. When we get completed, with spiritual discernment,
the Lord can lead us to any criticisms he feels that are necessary.)

And that you put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Eph
4:24

Be ye holy; for I am holy Peter 1:16 [For if we are to come into union with Him we must be like
Him]

HE WILL MAKE US ONE WITH HIM

In meditation I saw that after He has brought us to be pure and holy, we can mingle with his essence-
like two breaths joining as One. Then we will see, as He sees-and feel Him always with us, never to be
apart. We are still there, but we do whatever He see is to be done-and adore Him as He truly Is.
That they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that
the world may believe that You sent Me. And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they
may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and
that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. John
17:21-23

HE WILL LIVE IN US TO BRING US TO TRUTH AND COMPLETE US

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you
forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows
Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you comfortless, I
will come to you. John 14:16-18

And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us an understanding, that we may know
him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and
eternal life. 1 John 5:20

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him. If we suffer, we shall also reign with him.
2Timothy 2:11-12

I am the Light of the world, he that follows me shall not wait in darkness, but shall have
the Light of Life. John 8:12

And to those who attain perfection, to those who reach purity, by doing so, you bring
glory to your savior, the blessed Christ, and he then brings glory to our Father - is
there anything else worth aspiring to do? For if there is some way we can repay our
Father for our breath, our heart beat, our life, our savior who has paved the way for
us, then that is the only thing to want - every other thing must take the back seat to the
passion of bringing glory to the Son and the Father. As for me, if I can possibly do this
for Christ and the Father, as insignificant as I am, I gladly dedicate the rest of my life
to do so, and I am eternally grateful for the opportunity.

HE WILL BRING US INTO FELLOWSHIP WITH HIMSELF AND GOD

George Fox says in his journal:
Therefore walk in the light, that you may have fellowship with the son, and with the Father

and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 1 John 1:3

Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Jam 4:8

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23

[Joyfully the radiant bride turned to him, the one altogether lovely, the chief among ten thousand to
her soul, and with unconcealed eagerness to begin her life of sweet companionship with him, she
answered] Make haste, my beloved, and come quickly, like a gazelle or a young hart [and take me to our
waiting home] upon the mountains of spices! Song 8:14

"BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART, FOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD" Mat 5:8

AND IF WE DILIGENTLY Seek, Listen, Obey AND LOVE HIM,

HE WILL MAKE US SONS
But as many as received him, to them gave the power to become the sons of God. John 1:12

But this thing I did command them: Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be
My people; and walk in the whole way that I command you, that it may be well with you. Jer 7:23

The mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His
saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the
Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Colossians 1:26-27
And he said, Behold, I make a covenant:... such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any
nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing
[fearful and full of awe] that I will do with thee. Exodus 34:10

For the LORD shall rise up ... that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his
strange act. Isaiah 28:21

This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. Psalm 118:23

Faithful is he that called you, who also will do it. 1Th 5:24

So, if we come to know Him who lives in us,

and stand while He exposes what we are,
and what he would bring us to be- He will lead us Home.
We will see the old man in us that must die for the beautiful new creation he will bring
forth.
All we must do is believe He can do it,
and wait on and obey His leading's - to change us to that pure, perfect being.
It is hard to look at our heart as it is before He changes it,
but He is with us to guide, comfort, and love.
And we see it come forth with such thankfulness... and such breathless awe.
The Promise is the great hope and mystery of the creation,
for we are to become like Him, and be one with Him.

In meditation He said, "be the very best you can ... For Me"

Oh, that we may know You more and more, always. All the beauty, love and glory of
the ages.

I will praise You forever, because You have done it;

And in the presence of Your saints I will wait on Your name, for it is good.
Ps 52:9

So, go to Him who is within you, and wait on Him to Reveal Himself in you.
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Holy is Our God

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For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, said the LORD. For as the
heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than
your thoughts. Isa 55:8-9

If we would know our God, we have to glimpse His holiness. We cannot enjoy his
fellowship until He brings us to be holy as He is holy, because His holiness and glory are
so very different from us. But those glimpses draw us to Him, make us zealous to leave
our fleshly life, to wait quietly on Him who is within us so He can change us, and to live
our lives dedicated to Him – for He is our life.

Yours, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all
that is in the heaven and in the earth is yours; yours is the kingdom, O LORD, and you are exalted as
head above all 1Ch 29:11

Wherefore come out from among them, and be separate, said the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing;
and I will receive you,
2 Cor 6:17
That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. 1
Pe. 4:2

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Hbr 12:14.
For God did not call us to uncleanness, but unto holiness. 1Th 4:7

Glory in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD. Seek the LORD, and his
strength: seek his face evermore
Ps 105:3-4
And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. Jer 29:13

For, “he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently
seek Him.” Hbr 11:6

Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Jam 4:8

We pray Thee to show us Thy holy glory – yet when we glimpse Thee, on our face we
must fall.

I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it
stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his
feet, and with two he did fly And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of
hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory…Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man
of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King,
the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he
had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath
touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged. Isa. 6:1-7

For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God, and the LORD has chosen you to be a peculiar
people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth. Deut 14:2
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works. Tts 2:14

I saw His face in meditation-and Eternity went out from it

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, said the Lord, which is, and
which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev. 1:8

George Fox touched that holiness and shows us part of what he saw in Letter Number 292:

He is the living God that clothes the earth with grass and herbs,
and causes the trees to grow, and bring forth food for you,
and makes the fishes of the sea to breathe and live,
and makes the fowls of the air to breed, and causes the roe and the hind,
and the creatures, and all the beasts of the earth to bring forth,
whereby they may be food for you.
He is the living God, that causes the stars to arise in the night, to give you light,
and the moon to arise to be a light in the night.
He is the living God, that causes the sun to give warmth to you,
to nourish you when you are cold.
He is the living God, that causes the snow and frost to melt,
and causes the rain to water the plants.
He is the living God, that made the heaven and the earth, and the clouds,
and causes the springs to break out of the rocks,
and divided the great sea from the earth,
and divided the light from the darkness,
by which it is called day, and the darkness night,
and divided the great waters from the earth, and gathered them together:
which great waters he called sea, and the dry land earth:
he is to be worshipped that does this.
He is the living God, that gives unto you breath, and life, and strength,
and gives unto you beasts and cattle, whereby you may be fed and clothed.
He is the living God, and he is to be worshipped.
And that which gives you to be sensible of him, and to know him,
is that which convinced you in your hearts of sin and unrighteousness.
So all gods that are made of stone, mortar, wood, silver, brass, iron, or gold,
are not the living God, but are made of men's hands;
and the living God is he that gives you life, and breath, and strength,
and all things that are good,
and would have you to feel after him,
with that which checks you for sin and evil;
and would have you to worship him in spirit, and serve him who is holy and righteous,
and to live in peace

The holy men of old also saw that holy glory and tell us of His majesty and righteousness:

And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush:
and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed
… And he God said, Draw not near here: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the
place where you stand is holy ground. Ex 3:2-5

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come to the children of Israel, and shall say
to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you; and they shall say to me, What is
his name? what shall I say to them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he
said, Thus shall you say to the children of Israel, "I AM" has sent me to you. Ex 3:13-14

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” John 8:58

And he [Moses] said, I beseech you, show me your glory. And he said, I will make all
my goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and
will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show
mercy. And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live And
it shall come to pass, while my glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the rock,
and will cover you with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away my hand, and you
shall see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen…And the LORD descended in
the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. And the
LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful
and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Ex 33:18-21, 34:5-6
Who is like unto you, O LORD, among the gods? who is like you, glorious in holiness,
fearful in praises, doing wonders? Ex 15:11

And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and
lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;
so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. And mount Sinai was altogether on
a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as
the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly…and when the people saw
it, they removed, and stood afar off…And they said unto Moses, Speak you with us, and
we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die. Ex 19:16-18, Ex. 20:18-19

For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and
a terrible. Deut 10:17

Once I saw into that wonder, an opening into something that could not be seen,
only perceived; for It was spirit – and so pure and so glorious and so powerful and so
Holy as to be beyond description. And I heard a voice say “Our terrible, great God".

O God, you are terrible out of your holy places: the God of Israel is he that gives strength
and power unto his people. Blessed be God. Ps 68 :35

Sing forth the honor of his name: make his praise glorious. Say unto God, How terrible
are you in your works! through the greatness of your power shall your enemies
submit themselves to you. All the earth shall worship you, and shall sing to you; they
shall sing to your name. Ps 66:2-4

And I knew when I had a taste of that purity, why we had to be pure. But I also knew
that the power, which was Him, was so limitless and far beyond anything we
comprehend, that our re-creation to purity was effortless for Him.

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:8

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all
filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Cor 7:1

Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, The Creator of
the ends of the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable.
Isa. 40:28

Let all the earth fear the Lord – revere and worship Him; let all the inhabitants of the
world stand in awe of Him. For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood
fast Ps. 33:8-9

Why do you ask my name seeing it is wonderful? Jdg 13:18

And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. 1 John 3:3

William Penn also saw the wonder of Him, and praised His name:

MANY have been the dispensations of God since the creation of the world, to the sons of
men; but the great end of all of them has been the renown of his own excellent name in
the creation and restoration of man: man, the emblem of himself… the glory of all his
works. The world began with innocency: all was then good that the good God had made;
and as he blessed the works of his hands, so their natures and harmony magnified him
their Creator. Then the morning stars sang together for joy, and all parts of his works
said Amen to his law. Not a jar in the whole frame, but man in paradise, the beasts in
the field, the fowl in the air, the fish in the sea, the lights in the heavens, the fruits of the
earth; yes, the air, the earth, the water, and fire worshipped, praised, and exalted his
power, wisdom, and goodness. Oh holy Sabbath! Oh holy day to the Lord! William Penn

Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty
of holiness. Psa 29:2

For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither has the eye seen, O God, beside you, what he has prepared for him that wait for
him. Isa 64:4

Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and
there is none like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times
things that are not yet done, Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My
pleasure,' Isa. 46:9-10

And praise be to His holy name, His pleasure was to send His Son to us so that we
might become His people:
able to see Him, to be like Him, even be one with Him.

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father
of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. James 1:17

Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed with
honor and majesty. Who covers yourself with light as with a garment: who stretches out
the heavens like a curtain: Psa 104:1-2

In Him [Christ] was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4
And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon you, and the
power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that holy thing which shall
be born of you shall be called the Son of God. Luke 1:35

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon
his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory
of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift. 2 Cor 9:15

The apostles also bore witness to the glory of the Lord when He was on earth:

the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that
eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us 1 John 1:2

And He was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment
was white as the light. Mat 17:2

And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you
before the world was. John 17:5

Jesus … went forward and said to them, "Whom are you seeking?" They answered
Him, "Jesus of Nazareth." Jesus said to them,
"I am He." As soon then as he had said to them, "I am He," they went backward, and fell
to the ground. John 18:4-6

Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the
veil of the temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake,
and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which
slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy
city, and appeared unto many Mat 27:50-53

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of
death, crowned with glory and honor Hbr 2:9

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; Col. 2:9

For in You rests all of glory – all past, all now, all to come. Bring us to be Your people
in this life, in this time,
in this world. We would seek You with our whole heart and follow after You forever. To
do this we must also suffer a spiritual death of our fleshly nature on the cross - for Him
to be resurrected in us. When we wait quietly in the light to see ourselves, and repent so
He will change us and write His ways on us - instead of our fleshly ways - then we
will come to this promise. ( see Meditation Guidelines for more information on dying
to self)
Here we can be led by Him, changed by Him, taught by Him, and come to Know Him.
that they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel after him and find him. Yet he
is not far from each one of us, for 'In him we live and move and have our being'; Acts 17:27-28

Then I will give them a heart to know Me, that I am the Lord; and they shall be My
people, and I will be their God, for they shall return to Me with their whole heart. Jer. 24:7

You shall worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Ex 34:14 I heard
in meditation:"Keep you only unto Me"

And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

So deny yourself and "pick up your cross daily to follow him." Luke 9:23

For Jesus said: "except you repent, you shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:3,5

Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your
shame 1 Cor 15 :34

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Hbr
12:14(From meditation we were given understanding that part of pursuing peace with every man is
to never say anything critical about anyone or any group - however they might really deserve it; leave
it unsaid. This trains the mind to be tolerant and therefore more peaceful with others. When we
get completed, with spiritual discernment, the Lord can lead us to any criticisms he feels that
are necessary.)

But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should
show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light: 1Pe 2:9

Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done
in love. 1Cr 16:13

George Fox loved the Lord greatly and served him magnificently. The following is
from Letter Number 293:

To whom is my love in the Lord Jesus Christ,

by whom were all things made, and by whom all things do consist,
and who fills all things, and does uphold all by his word and power;
who is the first and last, the holy head of his holy church,
and the door into the holy way, for his holy people to walk in,
and the setter up of a holy worship in the holy spirit and truth,
to worship the holy God in;
and the setter up of a holy religion, to keep from the spots of the world;
which religion is pure in his sight.

For, if we are to worship Him as He wishes, much less become one with Him, we must
be holy,

Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 1 Pe1:16.

For He "gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works." Titus 2:14. That he would grant unto us, that we being
delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and
righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-75

Cleanse me ... and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow. Psalm 51:7

"BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART, FOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD" Mathew 5:8

Oh, your goodness, that You would allow us to struggle with You to bring forth this
new birth, this new creation; out of darkness to a pure and sinless life, so there is
nothing separating us from You. For in You there is no darkness. You are all purity
and power, and nothing is ever to come between us again - for we will be one.

The eternal God is your refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall
thrust out the enemy from before you; and shall say, Destroy them. Deut 33:26-27. For
this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you
might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the
world through lust. 2Pe 1:4

I am the Light of the world, he that follows me shall not wait in darkness, but shall have
the Light of Life.
John 8:12

Glory in His holy name; Let the hearts of those rejoice who seek the Lord! Ps. 105 :3
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable. I
will meditate on the glorious splendor of Your majesty,... And on Your wondrous works.
Ps. 145:3, 5

Wherefore God also has highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above
every name: Phl 2:9

For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk
in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Cor 6:16

Rejoice, you have left "the broad way" and found the "narrow way that leads to LIFE that
few find. Mat 7:13

By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right
hand and on the left 2 Cr 6:7

The Father has exalted Him above all others, and if we are to call Him our Lord it has to
be in fact - not just words. We see the beautiful, new, holy creation he has brought
forth with loving thanksgiving and breathless awe. He is to be Lord of our
existence, controlling us.

In meditation I saw that after He has brought us to be pure and holy, we can mingle
with his essence-like two breaths joining as One. Then we will see, as He sees-and feel
Him always with us, never to be apart. We are still there, but we do whatever He see is
to be done-and adore Him as He truly Is.

You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created
all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created. Rev 4:11

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in
earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ
is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phl. 2:10-11
And why call you me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Luke 6:46

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to
them that believe on his name John 1:12

So, Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them
that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
2 Ti 2:22. and those who use the things of the world, [use them] as if not engrossed in
them. For this world in its present form is passing away. 1Cor 7:31

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the
life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and
gave himself for me. Gal 2:20

So we can see Him as He is, be holy to Him, and cast ourselves down before His glory.

And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes
within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty,
which was, and is, and is to come. And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks
to him that sat on the throne, who lives for ever and ever, The four and twenty elders
fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that lives for ever and ever,
and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory
and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are
and were created. Rev. 4:8-11

In meditation He showed me the ocean, and He spread out over it - and

everything, including me, was inside Him. And it was not just that He had created all,
but that He was all.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He
was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not
any thing made that was made. In Him was life John 1:1-4. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters. Gen 1:2

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like
grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Isaiah 40:22

Jesus, who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature. For by him
were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth visible and
invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers all things
were created by him, and for him. And he is before all things, and by him all things
consist... For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell; Col 1:15-19

For in him we live, and move, and have our being Acts 17:28

That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting That there is none besides Me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Isa. 45:6

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for
ever and ever. Amen. 1Ti. 1:17

Christ in you, the hope of glory Col 1:27

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Why Jesus is the Way to Union with God

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach,

because we trust in the living God,
who is the Saviour of all men,
specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 4:9-10

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Christ's teachings are the ultimate in the way to become holy and become one with God;
classic challenges to those who would be his followers are:

So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple. Luke
14:33
And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke
14:27

He that finds his life shall lose it, and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it.
Matthew 10:39

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with
him. 2 Tim 2:11-12

Of all the guides and teachers in history, Christ stands far above in holiness and perfection. His death on
the cross is the physical example that we must follow with the inward cross of self-denial to find God,
to have God dwell in us, to be with God, to have union with Christ and the Father, while on earth,
and to live with Him now and forever.

He has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them
you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused
by evil desires. 2 Peter 1:4

Scriptures regarding the divinity of Christ, and showing that before he came to earth in the flesh,
Christ created the universe, in his heavenly glorious form:

● In the beginning was the Word, and the Word [Jesus] was with God, and the Word was
God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without
him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. He was in the
world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. And the Word was made
flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of
the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:1-14

● He [Jesus] is the sole expression of the glory of God , and He is the perfect imprint and very image of nature,
upholding and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His mighty word of power.
Hebrews 1:3

● Who [Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature, Colossians 1:15

● For by him [Jesus] all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is
 before all things, and in him all things hold together - so that in everything he might have the
supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile
to himself (God the Father) all things, whether things on earth or in heaven, by making peace through his
blood, shed on the cross. Col.1:16-20

● Who, [Christ] although being essentially one with God and in the form of God, did not think this
equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, but stripped Himself, so as to assume the
guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being. And after He
had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to
the extreme of death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2:6-8

● Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father; then we shall be satisfied. Jesus replied, Have I been with
all of you for so long a time, and do you not recognize and know Me yet, Philip? Anyone who has seen
Me has seen the Father. How can you say then, Show us the Father? Do you not believe that I am in
the Father, and that the Father is in Me? What I am telling you I do not say on My own authority and of My
own accord; but the Father Who lives continually in Me does the (His) works (His own miracles, deeds
of power). John 14:8-10

● In the last of these days He has spoken to us in Son, Whom He appointed Heir and lawful Owner of
all things, also by and through Whom He created the worlds and the reaches of space and the ages of
time. Heb 1:2

● As the Father raises up the dead, and quickens them, even so the Son quickens whom he will; for the Father
judges no man; but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all men should honor the Son, even as
they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son, does not honor the Father which has sent him.
John 5:21-23.

● Speaking at the last supper, just before his crucifixion, Jesus said: And now, O Father, glorify Me
together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. John 17:5

God is light. God is a consuming fire. God is a spirit. In the beginning, the light, fire, and spirit called
God, created the first-born (Jesus) of all the creation, so that all God's fullness could dwell in him,
(Jesus) and then by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible
and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for
him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together - so that in everything he might
have the supremacy. He is essentially one with God and in the form of God. Hear, O Israel: The LORD
our God is one LORD.

And through him [Jesus] to reconcile to himself (God the Father) all things, whether
things on earth or in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. Col.1:5-20.

(See Is There Hope for All Men and Women for more on his reconciliation of
all things back to God the Father).

There are many, many prophecies of scriptures regarding the details of Jesus' life, made hundreds of
years before his birth, and fulfilled in his lifetime. Click Here to See Them. These fulfilled prophecies
not only show Christ's Divinity and Him being the promised Messiah, but also demonstrate the validity
of the Bible, (despite the gross misinterpretations so prevalent in Christendom today).

Almost everyone has heard that Jesus said, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no
one comes to the Father except by me.' And no one can come to him in this life, unless the
Father draws them; but they must come to the Father through the example, teachings, and help of
Christ, including the mystical missing cross. But make no mistake, he is not a license for
immorality; whatever label people claim, they must be holy to have any part of him. The sects
of christendom claim in error that he came to set them free them from guilt of sin, rather than to set
them free from sin by destruction of the sinful nature. You tender hearted souls, who thought he was,
but still wish him to be your Lord, will find encouragement below on how he can destroy the sinful
nature; for Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. If you
still sin, then sin is your master; and Jesus can't be your Lord, because you cannot serve two masters.
Luke 16:13. Here is proof that so-called Christians who still sin, will not go to heaven.

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness,

and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but [only] he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name,
and done many wonders in Your name?
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
 depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Mat 7:21-23

The Son of Man will send out His angels,

and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend,
and those who practice lawlessness,
and will cast them into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42

Click here to jump to how to destroy the sinful nature.

Jesus was not a man of war like Mohammed and Krishna; nor was Jesus just a man like Buddha,
who became enlightened, though never acknowledging God. Christ walked the earth as a man, but
before and after his earthly life, he reigned in the heavens, King of the Angels, creator of all things,
including the heavens and earth and all in it. Although he ruled the heavens, he stripped himself
of his glory and godhood to humble and abase himself, becoming human form to dwell in
a tabernacle of flesh and die on the cross; so that he could reconcile man back to the Father
through love; the ultimate gift, his life, for all the errant children of his creation. But in this life
on earth he seeks to reconcile as first fruits, only those followers who wish to become like him, in
union with him - because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

John says: "In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The true light that gives light
to every man coming into the world." John 1:1-9. So the Light of all men is Christ, the Light
that many meditation-based religions seek.

So, since he created us, it stands to reason that he is the one to reconcile us back to himself and to
the Father. But the Father is logical. He doesn't just make a rule unless it is necessary. I can accept the
rule, but I always wondered why good people from other faiths were not able to find union with God in
this life. Somehow it just didn't seem fair when some of the other faiths stressed peace, love,
holiness, purity, enlightenment, and less materialism than 'christians,' who used Jesus as an excuse to
live in sin without repentance to purity. My question was answered with the following understandings:

First, those who live in sin without the fruit of repentance to purity, calling themselves 'Christians,' do
not find unity with God or true salvation. So, he doesn't discriminate on the basis of a
technicality.

Second, remember Christ is the light that enlightens all men. Remember the Spirit of God has been
poured out on all mankind. Anyone who totally obeys the Light of their conscience can attain
union with God, however many forms of meditation teach you to ignore all thoughts and all voices; but
unless you obey the convictions and complete commands heard and understood, there
is no spiritual progress). So, people from some other faiths can get very spiritual in meditation;
like all men, they have the spirit within them chained down waiting for liberation from prison. They
can become more enlightened and more spiritual than 'christians' of the various 'christian' deficit sects.
Some of the other religions strive for the death of the ego, rejection of materialism, attaining inner
peace, reaching enlightenment, and call for more holiness from their believers; all as necessary to
please God. They find today's 'Christianity' unacceptable, because the 'christian' sects use the death of
Jesus as an excuse to live in sin without guilt; the opposite of holiness and instead, an embrace of
hypocrisy. As reported, when Gandhi was asked why he couldn't accept Jesus, he said, "I too will
become a Christian, when I meet a Christian like Jesus."

Third, the Light in all men, which is the only teacher anyone needs, will eventually reveal its
identity as Christ to the sincere individuals of other religions in their meditations. They then have
the choice whether to accept him or not. Unfortunately they often decline, because of their loyalty to
the teachings of their faith and because of the poor record of most 'christians' around them and
throughout history. They may live a very peaceful life, but their progress stops. They cannot get to total
union with God to live in the Kingdom of Heaven, unless they accept Christ - the only way to enter the
spiritual dimension in this life. Rejecting Christ, they have thrown the proverbial baby out with the
dirty bath water. They have rejected Christ, because of 'churchianity.'

We know people who have gone into the Light by a variety of meditation methods; one person using TM
had the Light tell her that He would heal her. It was revealed to her that the Light was Christ, but
that person rejected the Light to be Christ, because she had rebelled from a condemning
fundamental christian sect. Rejecting the Light to be Jesus, she missed the opportunity to be healed of
her sickness and the opportunity to attain union with God in his Kingdom.

So if he reveals himself to you in your meditations, this is not the Jesus of the deficit sects, who claim him
as an excuse for an unholy lifestyle while condemning others living similarly, but this is Christ, the
life which is the light of men. He said, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall
not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. I have come into the world as a light,
so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness. Believe in the light while you
have it, so that you may become sons of light.
Christ said to, "pray that you will have the strength to stand before the Son of Man." It refers to
conviction. While sitting quietly waiting on the Lord, (meditation), which is necessary to attain purity,
the Light shows us the evil that is in our heart. Our tendency is to deny it and to run from the light
which shows us our condition. Christ is our excuse for the unholy thing we are, and our lifeline to stay
or "stand," (not flee). We can't do it without him; it is too humiliating to accept without knowing that
he died to be our savior and helper; he says PEACE, don't worry. He is our pass for being the way we are
as we seek peace and enlightenment. Without the knowledge of a friend and savior,
our meditations only go so far, because we draw back in fear of ourselves compared to God.

So, if when meditating, and you are shown something ugly about yourself by the Light,
don't draw back; recognize it is the Light showing you your condition, and it is doing this to help us be
rid of it and become a better person; and that Christ has died for us, so that we need not panic and
draw away, but remain to focus on the Light that shows us our condition; we can claim his help by
just believing in his name. And then, just when you don't expect it, strength will come; and whatever
we have been shown as a defect in our heart, we will have strength to be different from then on. By
loving the Light and feeling regret for what it is showing you while standing and not fleeing, you
are receiving Christ, the Light. This doesn't commit you to 'churchianity' or attending one of the
deficit sects' services; to the contrary, he would keep you out of them.

His good news that he was sent to the world to announce was: Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven
is near; repentance being change in the light to purity; after purity, to enter paradise, the Kingdom
of Heaven within and among us, our consciousness and sight translated to the spiritual
dimension, living in union with Christ and God, but walking on earth by the light of God,
as children of the light. For God is not far from each one of us and hopes that men would
seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him; for in him we live and
move and have our being. Acts 17:27-28. These writings show the way out of darkness to
light. (Click for more.)

He created you. You are on the earth in the midst of evil. You were born in it. You are part of it. He
doesn't blame you. He forgives you. His beloved first born Son has paid the price of all your sin. He
wants you back with him. He wants to be with you. He wants to love you, and he wants you to love him.
He wants to give you riches beyond your imagination, but a different kind of riches than what you know
on earth. Trust him. He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him. He asks you to
please listen to his Son in the Light and keep his commands. So he can give you his peace. Follow
his commands; be free from worry, doubt, fear, agitation, uncontrolled emotion, habits - all of which
disturb your peace. There is peace between God and you. Accept this peace and seek Him through the
Light, Jesus. Who had the joy of creating you, and now has the joy of reuniting you with the Father.
The Light awaits you. See Meditation for more.

If you've arrived at this site, still curious why Jesus is necessary, I have a challenge for you. Pick up a
Bible (or click) and read the book of Matthew; it won't take long. If you've been seeking, it will ring
beyond true. If you like it, read the book of John next. John identifies the beauty of the promises to
us, particularly John 17. All of Jesus' commands only to all and his criticisms of religious leaders are on
the side bar. I believe you will find Christ's teachings so superior to anything you have read, that you
will want to learn more; this happened to me. Jesus said, If anyone chooses to do
God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether
I speak on my own. John 7:17

The 'christians' of today are not examples of his teachings. The different deficit sects fight over
the interpretation of the recorded words of the saints, (the interpretations of the Bible), without seeking
the same Spirit that spoke the words; as He told me,"they fight over the husks, without
ever discovering the corn."

Instead look through the rest of this site, including Coming out of the World, Meditation,
and Christian Freedom; and read the main attraction on this site, the Letters and Journal
of George Fox, the original Quaker, who in the 17th century England led tens of thousands to
holiness and oneness with God; this people exhibited their moral ethnicity while they testified
against all the "deficit sects" of christiandom as Godless. And they were reviled and persecuted for it;
just as Jesus predicted would happen to his true followers! They also showed a remarkable love and
their ministry exhibited power. Christ came so we could be one, with Him and the Father, on the
earth in this life; so we could enjoy the Kingdom of Heaven here and now, after we go to him for
his purification.

See Meditations for details on the lost way to union with God.

For those 'Christians' who want rid themselves of their sinful nature:
Your selfish nature must be crucified on on the inward cross of self-denial before we can be ruled by
the Lord God. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with
its passions and desires. Gal 5:24. Without having mortified the deeds and habits of the flesh, you have
no part of Him; for without holiness, none shall see God. Hebrews 12:14. You were sold the false
grace which says do nothing, just continue to live in your sinful nature; yet Jesus said: But why do
you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? Luke 6:46. You have been cheated of
true peace and from knowing that you could live in the Kingdom of Heaven within you, while
on earth, which does not come with outward signs and visible display; he has already returned
to thousands of believers who produced the fruit of repentance, who purified themselves to get ready
for him.

And unto them that look for him, shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28

When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
For the pure in heart see God; the pure in heart experience the appearance of Christ, his return.

Jesus said: Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but [only] he
who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we
not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Mat
7:21-23. Obviously they called him Lord, and they had enough faith that he was the son of God
to perform wonderful miracles in his name; but that was not enough - they practiced
lawlessness, thinking there was no need to obey him! Jesus is saying that they have not made them
their Lord in practice, who controls their lives in their actions and words; he doesn't know them to be
his subjects as their ruling Lord. They say Jesus is Lord with their lips, but keep him far removed
from their hearts to really be their Lord and King.

Jesus said: Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter heaven, but only those who do the will of my Father.
And how do you do the will of the Father? Then there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,
"This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him!” Luk 9:35
You must go to him, listen to him, hear him, and obey him - repeatedly.
Doing this will result in him cleansing you, making you fit to be in his presence, making him your
ruling Lord in words and actions.
He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9

To make him Lord, he has to first cleanse us of our sinful nature that makes us unruly, incapable of
being subject to a Lord or King. Until he cleanses us, we are a slave to sin, incapable of being subject to
a Lord or King. Jesus himself said, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. So we have
to seek him to purify us by destroying our selfish, unruly, sinful nature; we have to sit quietly so that he,
the Light and the Word, can teach us about himself and search our heart to show us our conditions; lead
us to repent, and then cleanse us to be governable so he can truly rule us as our King and Lord. My
sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27

Jesus came so he could destroy the the works of the devil in us - if we go to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works [sin]
of the devil. 1 John 3:8

Jesus said: If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me. John 13:8 (This is not
the ritual water baptism.)

If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev 3:20. Sitting quietly while thinking on his name is how we learn from Him, get cleansed
by Him, be led by Him, and come to know Him. Hearing his voice is not reading the Bible, it is
hearing his voice. To hear someone, we have to listen; to listen we have to stop talking, reading, and
racing our mind.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, ...
He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; securely.. Luke 6:47-48

He is extraordinarily patient toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn
to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

Do not fear, you can experience the joy of real fellowship with Christ. I am not recruiting for any sect. I
seek no followers; you have no need of any teacher but the anointing which you have
received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the
same anointing teaches you concerning all things, 1 John 2:27; Christ in you, the hope of glory. I
do not want your money. Everything on this site is free. Nothing is for sale. I only want you to know
the freedom from the distress of sin. I want you to know that you can be so filled with love, that you
go through the rest of you life obsessed with loving others and loving God. You can be full of everlasting
joy and peace. You can have fellowship with the Father and the Son. You can become pure in heart
and see God. You can have the Kingdom of God and the glorious Christ established in your heart. But,
you must pick up you cross daily and crucify your flesh's affections and lusts to be with God.
Be of good courage and have faith, for compared to his cross, your burden is light and easy. The
cross simply is to go to him, think on his name, listen, and obey. He said, "Take my yoke upon you and
learn from me." This is how you learn from him, (you will be taught, shown your condition, and you
will receive personalized commands from Him to you):

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your first priority, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is a
cross to your will
(this is the place where you get changed, where your peace increases; in the Light)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness and give- it is a
cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if you repent and defer -
it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,
and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

Jesus said: except you repent, you shall all likewise perish. Luke 13:3,5

Those who belong to Christ Jesus

have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

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He wants us to come to him so we can be taught and he can show us our condition; and by us repenting
and obeying his commands, he purifies us until he and the Father come to establish their Kingdom in
our hearts and translate us to paradise, all by grace; a grace that teaches us to live godly and righteously
in this present world. Contrasted with the deficit sects' false, instant grace, Paul describes the
true grace in letter to Titus stated below:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity,
and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 2:11-4

(This is not instant grace; this is a teaching grace, a purifying grace; in this world. This takes
time. You must be quiet to listen to be taught by grace, resulting in the appearance of God and Christ
and leading you to good works.)

See True Grace vs. False Grace for more.

If you think believing or baptism is all you need, see The Fallacy of John 3:16 Taken out of Context, and
the The Missing Cross.
See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for how to get started listening.

You might be asking, how could this be true? Everyone believes that there is nothing I have to do but
believe in Jesus, and maybe get baptized in water. The answer is in the Bible; countless examples in
the history of Israel where they forgot the requirements of righteousness and became comfortable in
their flesh. In cycles, a prophet would arise, point out their universal error, and then get persecuted
or killed; then the people were punished, they repented and lived correctly until they again drifted back
into a false religion. The same thing happened in the early church; Jude wrote in 1:4, For certain men
whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless
men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality. All the deficit sects of today are
simply variations on the doctrines established by the Roman emperor, and of course saint, Constantine
in 325 AD regarding salvation and Christianity; the doctrines were further standardized by later
Roman emperors, including the sainted despot, Justinian. Within sixty-five years the true church, with
its correct doctrines, was stamped out by the deceptive lure of their doctrine of instant, ritualized
salvation, coupled with the Roman Empire's crushing boot of persecution for any deviation from
their authorized, state religion. As predicted in the Bible's Book of Revelation, the church had
adulterated with the Kings of the earth. For 1260 years the true church was banished to the wilderness,
to appear again in 1650 with the breakthrough of the early Quakers - only to die again by 1880 due to
the deception of presumptive salvation. People are eager to embrace the broad, easy way.
Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior; but you saying so, doesn't make
him your Lord in control of your words and deeds.

Read George Fox's Journal, and you will know for sure; just as they were surrounded by godless deficit
sects, so are we today in an age of universal apostasy: false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothing,
blind guides, minster's asking for your money, countless thousands of blind ministers taught by
colleges instead of Christ, millions of blind followers in the ditch, still subject to rage, lusts, anger,
greed, envy, emotions; with no purity, no peace, false hope, false gospels, false salvation, the missing
cross, and no one entering the Kingdom. In response to a question, would many be saved? Christ
said, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction,
and many will go in there: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life,
and few will find it." Paul said, "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling (quaking)."
So salvation is not as easy as you have been led to believe. You have been misled. It is easy to go with
the herd; but beware, for Paul said, They that are in the flesh cannot please God. See the
Missing Cross for more.

Christ is eager to help you enter by the narrow gate and for you to receive his Kingdom; but you must go
to him. To learn to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world. You must go to
Him for the purpose of loosing your fleshly life to gain your spiritual Life; to attain purity
through his grace and your faith in the power of the true gospel, the power of the cross, and
the power of his name, Jesus Christ; all the power of God. Remember, all things work
together for good for those who love God, to them who are called according his purpose. You have nothing
to worry about. Even the things you did wrong in your life, worked to bring you to God, to be reunited
with Him, to learn to love, to learn of God's love for you, to love God, to be loved by God, to become a son
of love, to become love too. If you love Him, you will seek Him by going to him and getting quiet to hear
his very soft voice. "Be still and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

To enter the Kingdom of Heaven, you have to be purified. You can be purified on earth by grace
through repentance, or you can be purified in the next life, through Hell to a much lower
Heaven. Everyone will be purified eventually and receive right standing with God to live
in Heaven; but purification in the next life is far harder and the subsequent life is far less.
See Is There Hope for ALL Men and Women for more information. For therefore we both labour
and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, specially of
those that believe. 1 Timothy 4:9-10

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Why Is Evil Allowed in the World?

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We have frequently heard that this life is one of free will. That everyone has their own choices, and for
God to not violate the free will, he can't interfere. That God does not want us to make the wrong choices
that hurt our neighbor or ourselves, but with free will, wrong choices are made. OK, that makes sense so
far. But, aside from the inherent value of freedom, why do we all have to operate under free will?
While desperately praying to the Lord to do something to wake up the millions of people who don't have
the faintest clue to what is expected of them, I heard him say to me, "I could stop two thirds of
the world's people dead in their tracks, anytime I choose." Leaving me to wonder:
why doesn't he?

It was a few years later when I understood. This is the Lord's garden. He is growing sons of God, for
duties that include judging the angels. The sons developed from the earth are "first fruits." The
first fruits are those to find total union with God while on earth in this life; men and women
to become Sons of God. We don't really know what else a Son of God is going to be doing after he or
she leaves this planet, but we do know they are going to be Kings and Priests; therefore in God's
holy presence constantly. And we can guess that God wants tried and true sons; sons who have tired of
the pig fodder which this world offers; sons who have learned the bitterness of lust, selfishness, pride,
and "false freedom," never to be tempted with them again; sons who are likely imbued with power,
that should it be abused, would bring great sorrow to many if not billions; and sons who are
the embodiment of God himself, LOVE. Scripture tells us that to seek God, find him, and be united
with him is the single and sole purpose of life. He [God] has made from one blood every
nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and
the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they
might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live
and move and have our being; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in you all.
We find him when the glory of God in the face of Christ Jesus appears in our hearts; and when he
appears,we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. Everyone who has this hope in him
purifies himself, just as he is pure. As he appears his holy pure light burns away anything unholy,
leaving only holiness, leaving only love. Then, since the purpose of this life is to find god, and that results
in love; then the purpose of this life is to create love. Love creates love. Love loves love.

One definition of love I like from eastern religion is: "giving with absolutely no expectation of return."

Paul gives us a wonderful definition of Love:

Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils
over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself
haughtily.

It is not conceited, arrogant and inflated with pride; it is not rude,

unmannerly, and does not act unbecomingly. Love, God's love in us, does
not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not
touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it .
 It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when
right and truth prevail.

Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to
believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all
circumstances, and it endures everything.

Love never fails. As for prophecy, the gift of interpreting the divine will and
purpose, it will be fulfilled and pass away; as for tongues, they will be
destroyed and cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
...
And so faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love. 1
Cor 13:4-13

From William Penn's Maxims:

"If we believe in a final reckoning and judgment; or think enough of what we do believe, we would
allow more love in religion than we do; since religion itself is nothing else but the love of God and man.

He, who lives in love, lives in God, says the beloved disciple; and to be sure a man can live
nowhere better.

.. tongues shall cease, and prophecy fail, and faith shall be consummated in sight, and
hope in enjoyment; but love remains.

Love is indeed heaven upon earth; since heaven above would not be heaven without it. For where
there is not love; there is fear; but perfect love casts out fear. And yet we naturally fear most to offend
what we most love.

What we love, we will hear; what we love, we will trust; and what we love, we will serve,
yes, and suffer for too. If you love me, (says our Blessed Redeemer), keep my
commandments. Why? Why then he will love us; then we shall be his friends; then he'll
send us the comforter; then whatever we ask, we shall receive; and then where he is we
shall be also, and that forever. Behold the fruits of love; the power, virtue, benefit and
beauty of love!

Love is above all; and when it prevails in us all, we shall all be lovely, and in love with
God and one with another."

Love is a voluntary action.

It cannot be commanded or forced.
Love cannot grow under coercion;
there must be total freedom to choose what is good:
total freedom to seek God,
total freedom to stop serving self and serve others,
total freedom to make mistakes and learn from them,
total freedom to seek to understand the creator,
total freedom to turn away from what inhibits your growth in love,
total freedom to choose to love God,
total freedom to choose to sacrifice your life to please God,
total freedom to choose to lay down your life for the sake of your friends, and even
total freedom to change your mind and return to self, forsaking love.

Once love is chosen, seeking its own source and destination,

then it must be tested, under pressure, to see how certain is the choice;
for is it only a flirtation, or is it a commitment?
Can the choice be solidified, can it be made irreversible;
Or can it be turned back to selfishness?
So, to be sure, the chooser is stretched and exercised,
to grow stronger, to become surer, to become purer.
Like gold that is heated, the dross removed, reheated, dross removed, ... until pure.
The chooser is tested so much, anything but love becomes sickening;
and even when threatened and forced to suffer, would choose death,
rather than betray love and return to serving self, back to evil.
For as you learn the ways of love and God,
you learn to hate the life of passions, pride, and pleasures;
for to lose your life is to save it.
Evil becomes repulsive, to be shunned, to be eschewed;
for only then can the miraculous creation of Love be completed and sure.

To create love is the ultimate act of creation. It is the most difficult thing to create. This is God's garden
of love, and there are many "other people" not destined to be "first fruits;" but these "other people"
must not be interfered with or corrected or restrained for fear of coercing or damaging the tender plants
of love, the "first fruits." (The "other people" are also learning from their life in the garden; their lives will
be their reminders of what is really important: learning and love.) When a first fruit tender plant of love
has matured, then the angels sing and along with Christ come and harvest it, for it is indeed precious.
So precious, so valuable, so important to the furthering of the creation, that the whole creation (all
nature) waits expectantly and longs earnestly for these tender love plants, the Sons of God, to
be known. It all ties together doesn't it? Just a few love plants in the midst of many others. When a
love plant matures, it is harvested then, not thousands of years later; and the love plants are precious
few, (the strait and narrow way that few will find).

These adopted Sons of God, grown in the Garden of Earth, are key to the expansion of the creation. They
are the lynchpins of the future, a future where the increase of Christ's Kingdom and government is
without end - infinite - forever. Isaiah 9:7. They are to be Kings in the infinite expansion of the Kingdom
of Heaven and its government; (but Kings in heaven are servants like Christ, not rulers as we know them
on the earth). Since this expansion of his government continues forever, what does this tell you about
the role of earth in the future? Remember, he said " he could stop two thirds of the
world's people dead in their tracks anytime he chose."

The price for growing love is total absence of force and coercion from God; this total absence of control
from God results in suffering, diseases, wars, famines, etc. Everyone on the planet gets to choose
between good and evil, and learn thereby; freedom to choose wrong exists so that love can be created
and grow in total freedom, the necessary soil for nourishment. Every man and woman has their day
of visitation where the Spirit of God reasons with them to alter their ways. If we heed the advice of the
Spirit or Light within us, we get more counsel. If we ignore the advice, God ignores us until we decide to
seek his counsel and direction.

Based on his knowing those who will never give up until union occurs, God chooses those to be his
first fruits - he draws them to himself, but in a way that is without fear or compulsion - so they can choose
to seek Him out of love.To seek God and find him, (to see him within), is the whole purpose of
life. He [God] has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the
earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that
they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though
He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being; one God and Father
of all, who is over all and through all and in you all.

..Seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with
all your soul. Deu 4:29

Those chosen by God are protected by Him while they complete their seeking course; as is written,
"all things work together for good for those who love God (or as argued, God loves) and are called
according to his purpose." He told me, "All other people, destined for reconciliation after this
life, live without protection," and are therefore subject to accidental death, disease, war, etc. Once
when I was contemplating on God's will for people on this earth, I started thinking about the
6,000,000 Jews put to death by the Nazis; wondering how this could be. I heard Him say to me, "don't
you dare ascribe the Holocaust to me." I also listen with great sadness when a preacher tells one of
his congregation (living in the false hope) who just tragically lost a child, "it is God's will; he wanted
them home with him." It is not God's will that such tragedies happen. Tragedies are the result of
the world's free will and are not willed by God to happen. All life is precious to Him, and
the tragedies are sadness for Him too - but the price of man's free will, necessary to grow love.

*Do not think by your telling others of the gospel, they too will be protected. The Lord does the calling.
Until you have been sent with specific orders as to what to do, when to do it, and words to say - you
will only scatter, and not gather. Do not assume the Lord is asleep at the switch. He has said: "Let no
one think that we don't see and hear all."

The collective suffering of mankind throughout history is a huge price - a colossal price - a price
beyond measure. It has to be offset by this thing that he is creating that is infinitely beyond
anyone's imagination in its responsibility, authority, and power. These love plants are to be brothers
to Christ, who has the fullness of God dwelling within Him; do they also have the fullness of God
dwelling within them? It must be close, otherwise the price paid for man's free will is too much to
balance against. Don't get me wrong; I shrink in fright at the thought of being given a fraction of
such authority - I only mention the possibility to try to help you understand the horrible, but necessary
price of "free will." ( I serve God, for one reason and only one reason: to hear him say one day, "well
done, good and faithful servant." I live for this hope.)

It is also stated that the purpose of life is to create the body of Christ, so that through the church
the complicated, many-sided wisdom of God in all its infinite variety and innumerable aspects might now
be made known to the angelic rulers and authorities (principalities and powers) in the heavenly sphere.
Eph 3:10.So God is creating clones of Jesus with different experiences retained in their soul, in order to
reflect a different facet of the personality of God, to reflect a different facet of the wisdom of God, to
his glory. To find God is an individual experience, that requires purity, and the death of the selfish
nature within us.

Purification through the cross of Christ is hard. It involves suffering and tribulation; suffering is
necessary to shed the man of flesh, before the Spirit of Christ can replace it. This cross of self-denial is
taken up as a sacrifice of our lives - the only gift we are capable of giving to God - the life he gave us to live
as we please - to him, to live by his will. As we are cleansed by God to rid us of our selfish spirit, we
make many small decisions to repent. Each step away from the world strengthens our resolve to never
go back, until the world and all its selfish, greedy, angry, lustful practices become repulsive to us. And
the price we pay in suffering creates a resolve to never depart from His ways. We become a tested,
trusted vessel - through with sin. Whereas, if we died and were instantly purified, unless our free will
was removed, we would go right back into selfish practices.

Life, chronicled in the Old Testament, before Jesus opened up the opportunity of the Kingdom to
anyone with faith in his name, was used to create an indelible allegory of the individual's
purification experience - for reference, benchmark, understanding, warnings, and encouragement.
Instead of purity of an individual, it was purity of his chosen people; they were punished when they
didn't obey, and they were told to destroy any other race in their country. The Kings that Joshua
destroyed are the allegory of the elements of our own reigning spirits that have to be destroyed.
As individuals, we are disciplined, scourged, and chastised by God in our purification, Heb 12:6-8; but all
to our benefit - so that we can be rid of our sinful natures and participate in the divine nature.

● We leave the world behind (Egypt), with the Lord making our way over what seems impossible (parting of
the Red Sea),
● to go into waiting quietly on the Lord in spiritual dryness, (wandering in the Sinai desert),
● where we complain and doubt (sin against God),
● where God afflicts us with tribulation (biting serpents),
● where we must look upon Jesus's suffering on the cross to survive (gazing on the flaming serpent on a staff),
● where we loose all of our pride and self-respect to stand naked before God, seeing him open the secrets of
our hearts - until we are clothed with his righteousness in the end (as the Israelites wandered in the desert
until all of their old clothes wore out, forcing new clothes),
● where we doubt we can ever triumph against our massive ego problems, (the giants in the promised land
looked unconquerable),
● where our old self dies, with only the new creature that inherits the Kingdom, which flesh and blood cannot
(all the original Jews died or were not allowed to cross - even Moses)
● where Christ washes us with holy water inside and out ( we cross the river Jordan )
● and where He purges us with fire, and sprinkles our conscience with his blood. Christ puts to death our
pride, covetousness, anger, lusts - the residual spirit of Satan in us, with the brightness of his coming,
slaying him with breath, crushing satan under our feet (as the Israelites' enemies fell before them, as
Jericho, whose walls tumbled down - and were slain)
● and we arrive at the Kingdom of Heaven, spiritual Israel, pure, perfected, and in union with Christ and God
(the promised land of Israel)
● and we are to expel all from our church who continue to practice lying, covetousness, railing, immorality -
(all the heathen nations were to be continually purged from Israel)

The allegory goes on and on. The Old Testament is a physical allegory to the new spiritual
covenant. Hebrews states several, but there are many, many more. Whatever loss people experienced
to create that indelible allegory will be made up by a perfectly just God.

Fortunately, the pain and suffering that people experience in this life will be made up for by God in the
next life;
this life being like a distant dream.

And all will be comforted. And all will say that God is righteous.
And all will say that Jesus Christ is Lord. And these things will be said in sincerity and honesty
by all,
for God would take no pleasure in someone lying under force or threat of force;
these things will be said from the heart by all to the glory of God the Father .

He will swallow up death. And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces;
and the reproach of His people He will take away from off all the earth; for the Lord has spoken it. Isa
25:8

Declare what is to be, present it - let them take counsel together.

Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the Lord?
And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me.
Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:
 Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
They [as in everyone in previous verse] will say of me,
'In the Lord alone are righteousness and strength.'
All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame. Isa 45:21-25

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in
earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the
Father. Phil 2:10-11 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in
the living God,
who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Timothy 4:10(
See Hope for All for more detail, including the pain)

So, all the suffering and pain of earth will be forgotten and made right. And if you feel
the draw from God to seek him, (and keep on seeking him, until you are in his arms);
then perhaps you will value even more the suffering on the planet - it exists so that you
can seek he, who has chosen you, free of any coercion; and to grow into a perfected,
mature, resurrected Christ. This should be a very humbling realization; certainly not one
to take pride in, but rather to motivate you to patiently bear the cross to produce the fruit
of the Spirit, thereby bringing joy and glory to Christ and the Father, becoming the
crowning glory of their creation - Love.

When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine.
John 15:8

I am the vine, you are the branches.

He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit;
for without Me you can do nothing.
John 15:5

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Faith and Freedom

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Christian Freedom is the least understood concept today, because you have probably never met anyone
who is “free." Jesus said, "Know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Of course, he is the truth.
But what is free? It is certainly not free from guilt, free to sin; as Paul says, shall we sin, because we are
not under the law, but under grace? God forbid! Rom 6:15. So, is it just freedom from sin, or is it more?

First, when we begin our walk, we are under the Law. And, because we are under the Law, we are cursed;
for no mere man can fulfill the law. Christ fulfilled the Law, but he was no mere man. While we are
under the law, all we can do is try to avoid breaking it. Of course we continually fail. As Paul said, ‘Oh
wretch that I am. For what I would [do] I do not. But what I hate, that I do. Our humanity prevents us
from being successful. The law is our schoolmaster. It reminds of us our failings. Our failings are
supposed to motivate us to seek the changing grace of God, available to us through our faith in the name
of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. How to access that changing grace of God is explained below.

Faith

But the Law did not always exist. Before the Law, Abraham was blessed by God because of his faith. Now
we have the opportunity to be blessed by God because of our faith in Christ; to be blessed far beyond
our fondest expectations, even while living on the earth and then forever.

Your faith and hope must be in a Christ that not only forgives, but is able and eager to purify you
through repentance to Truth. If you believe you don't need to do anything while on earth to get rid of
your flesh, you won't get rid of it. You will try to please God in your flesh. They that are in the
flesh cannot please God. For if you live according to the flesh (the sinful nature), you will surely die.
But if through the power of the Spirit you are putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the
deeds prompted by the body, you shall live forever. Rom 8:13. As long as we live in our selfish, sinful
nature, we are unruly and incapable of being ruled, governed, or led by a Lord or King. So, if you want
Jesus to be your Lord and King, through the power of the Spirit, you must put to death the sinful nature
by repentance to purity - becoming able to be led. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of
God. Rom 8:14

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

Some insist that Jesus' blood shed on the cross makes us holy in God's eyes. Yes, his blood does give us
an imputed righteousness, but that only allows us to approach God, weighted down with our sins
of unrighteousness; we approach God with the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, so that we can
receive his teaching, cleansing, purifying grace - his power to change us, ridding us of our desire to sin,
by changing our heart. In our hearts of flesh are the roots of sexual immorality, impurity,
debauchery, idolatry, hatred, lying, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions,
envy, drunkenness, etc., and they that do such things cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Galatians 5,
v19-21 These are what Christ has to cleanse us of. He promises to destroy these and replace them with
the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and
self-control. We don't deny the blood of Christ; we attribute it to grant even more power: this blood of
Jesus Christ, the heavenly man, is felt and witnessed in the hearts and consciences of people; by which
blood they are sanctified and are cleansed from all their dead works. So your faith needs to have a focus
of hope to being rid of the flesh and producing good fruit, the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said: Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. Mat 7:19

Jesus said: When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8

Jesus said: The seed is the Word of God [Living Word of God, Jesus' spoken words to us personally].
And that [seed] which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are
choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to
PERFECTION. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,
having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:14-15

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Cors 7:1

If you believe that God exists and he is the rewarder of those who seek him through Christ, you have
the necessary faith of which he is the author to begin. But "Faith comes by hearing
the Word of God." Jesus is the Word of God. Rev. 19:13, John 1:1. When you go to the
Teacher, Christ, and you hear Christ's voice, the word of God, speaking to you, your faith
grows by leaps and bounds; and it will keep on growing as long as you keep on listening and
being obedient to his commands to you.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice
of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John 5:25

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in
to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20

If you don't yet have the hope that Christ can lead you out of darkness to a sinless state and the Kingdom
of Heaven within, this web site is dedicated to giving you that hope. Read the section at the top of sidebar
on Perfection and Purity; read the first part of George Fox's Journal, Early Conversion. Once you have
the hope, now all you need is the formula for the cross which is:

● seeking the Kingdom of God, as your first priority, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish will
if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me. Rev. 3:20
● you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish will
● you don't want to forgive injustices done to you, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your angry self
● you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is
a cross to your will
(this is the place where you get changed, where your peace increases; in the Light)
● you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness and give- it is
a cross to your will
● you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if you repent and defer -
it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

(see How to Receive the Changing Grace of God and Being Silent for more details)

Belief in the true gospel, and the cross to realize the promise, releases the power of God
to purify you and make you one with Him. As you pick up your cross daily, you are dying to
self. When he trusts you, after testing you, he will give you more of Himself, more spirit and love.
When you see the work that your Savior is doing for you, and when you see the results of the changes
within you, and when you hear and see his Spirit guiding you; your faith grows even more. Faith comes
by hearing the word of God, (the Living Word of God, not someone reading out of the Bible). You are sure
of being purified because of the changes that have already happened; and although you don’t yet see
Christ, you are certain he is in you as your Savior, helper, friend, comforter, and guide. Now you have
the faith that you know is growing and will grow until finished; you are experientially sure of what
you hope for and certain of what you don't see. Now he will start directing you in tasks of love.
He will command you to love that neighbor(s) you have always had a conflict with, and he will even
bring them in your path. He will show you how he is in everyone and how to love everyone. He will fill
your life with love and acts of love, by Christ, the author of and finisher of your faith, who gives to every
man and woman according to measure.

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence, see George Fox's writing on Why Silence?

Freedom

From A Guide to True Peace:

The love of liberty is one of the most dangerous passions of the heart. If we follow this propensity, instead of
true liberty, it reduces us to slavery. As our passions are the worst of tyrants, if we obey them partially, we
must always be in a perpetual strife and contest within; and if we entirely give ourselves up to them, it is
horrid to think to what extremities they will lead; they will torment the heart, and, like a torrent, sweep all
before them, and yet never be satisfied. True liberty is to be found only in him, whose truth shall set us free,
and who shall make us experience that to serve him is to reign.

Before we can enjoy the freedom of a Son of God, we must pass through the Ministry of
Condemnation, suffering on the cross to be to arrive at obedience to the moral law of God.

When man decided to eat from the tree of knowledge so he could judge good and evil like God, he became
a selfish spirit removed from the image, direction, and presence of God. Each of us makes our own
decisions with our mind as to what is good for us and what is bad for us. We all make different
decisions based on what we think we want. Different people have different standards of conduct
and behavior. We are selfish creatures looking for ways to increase our pleasures and comforts; we are
like beasts on the prowl looking for their next meal. The Holy Spirit must show us how captive we are to
our lusts, pleasures, habits, anger, pride, and self-gratification - and how this self-centered behavior is at
the expense of others around us. The word and light show us the defects in our heart, one at a time,
exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart. With our
regret and sorrow for conditions exposed by the Holy Spirit, we receive help from the Holy Spirit to
change. This conviction and condemnation of our beastly nature is the Ministry of Condemnation. When
we have been sufficiently purged or purified of our selfish, sinful nature, then we receive the Ministry of
Life or additional spirit from Christ; until finally we are restored to the image, direction, and presence
of God.

So first learn the ministry of condemnation in yourselves,

that life may arise, before ministry in the spirit is known,
which preaches peace by Jesus Christ, where there is no strife.
Therefore wait to know the time of silence and mind that which condemns
you.
From Fox's Letter 145.

From Letter 58: The teachers without exalt the carnal mind, but the teacher within destroys it.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor
indeed can be. Rom 8:7

From Letter 245

And as your ears are attentive to the Lord's voice, that speaks from heaven,
iniquity's mouth is stopped in you, the throne of iniquity is thrown down in you;
that is, the wicked spirit and power, where iniquity sits;
and the chambers of imagery are thrown down in you,
where all thoughts and imaginations are.

So that we lead every thought and purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ (the Messiah,
the Anointed One), 2 Cor 10:5. So that we have the mind of Christ (the Messiah) and do hold the
thoughts (feelings and purposes) of His heart, 1 Cor 2:16. We must put off, concerning your former
conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit
of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true
righteousness and holiness, Eph 4:22-24. This does not mean we continue to think with a new set of rules
we have learned from the Bible. No; the carnal mind, which is inimical to God, must be destroyed so that
we do not think for ourselves any longer. Instead as a new creature, we rely on the promptings received
from God, just like Christ did when he walked the earth; as he said:

I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true;
and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. John 8:26

the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
And I know that His command is everlasting life.
 Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50

the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);

but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing,
for whatever the Father does is what the Son does in the same way. John 5:19

I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous,

because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

So, even Christ did not make his own decisions. Notice, Jesus said he only did the will of the
Father, not his own. In Mat. 7:21, Jesus said: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter
the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. So here Jesus tells us
what is necessary to go to heaven - to do nothing of ourselves - to only say what we hear the father
tell us to say- to only do what the Father shows us to do - to only judge how we are told to judge by
the Father. So, we are not to think for ourselves - we are to only follow the promptings of the Father.
We must have our carnal mind destroyed to the point that we speak and act from the promptings of
the Spirit of God; this is the end of obedience - to think, speak, and act according to
God's promptings.

If Christ did nothing except as he was prompted by the Father, how could we possibly think we could
act independently, when we are far less than Christ? We also must have our carnal minds destroyed to
the point that we only speak and act from the promptings of the Spirit of God. Perhaps now you
are beginning to see the wisdom of not even speaking of Christ or God, unless you are specifically ordered
by the Holy Spirit what to say, to whom to say it, and when to say it.

A wise man once said, "all thought is worry, which is lack of faith." All thought is worry or plan for
the future, still worry; and worry is lack of faith. Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto
his stature? Mat 6:27

Man, who originally followed his creator in obedient love, became a rebel to decide his own way,
taking thought, judging what is good and bad for himself. When man is restored into the image of God,
he ceases to make his own decisions; instead returning to reverent, loving obedience to his creator, of
him and of the universe. Part of this restoration is to destroy the rebellious, self-seeking, self-
gratifying mind. This is a lengthy process for most. And as the mind is destroyed, the Lord's guidance
fills the void.

To repeat: when our selfish nature is slain, we will receive the Spirit of Christ, so that we will be obedient
in our love for God - and our obedience is by choice, God not having taken away our free will. Love
never insists on its own way. But our love for God will make our obedience to his wishes to be the joy of
our life. We become free of the selfish slavery to sin - free to be guided, led, directed, prompted, and loved
by our creator - God; free be what we were created to be.

Christian Freedom

Passing through this Ministry of Condemnation results in a filling with His spirit and love, the ministry
of the Spirit of Life. This is the ministry of righteousness. This is completely changing you from a
person living to self, to a person living to please God and others. Now, you joyously go through life
looking to give; you are free from the Law. You don’t have time to worry about doing something wrong,
and you don’t even judge yourself. Instead, you are running through life in a love feast, because you
have God to love, you have him helping you, you have him leading you, and you have his image all
around you; everywhere you look, there is your fellow man with a piece of Christ in prison within,
waiting for you love them, (for he is the light that lights every man that comes into the world and the
Spirit of God is poured out on all mankind).

Now you are “in Christ.” Now He will tell you that you are “in his name.” Until you and he together
complete your purification, you may still occasionally, (less and less), commit a sin, but you are
working together with Him to finish the job, and you know he will do it. Now you are at Paul’s state
where he said, “It is no longer I that sin, but the sin that remains in me." Now you begin to
know what it means to be free. Free from the distress of sin. Free from self. Free from the law. Free
from forms of religion. Free from the concerns of time. Free from worry. Free from doubt. Free
from judging. Free from listening to others judging you. Free from condemnation. Freedom from
fear, because such love has no fear because perfect love expels all fear. Now you have complete
trust and faith in God to bring you to union. Now you see the world moving towards you rather than
you going out to hack your way through the jungle. Now you no longer labor for survival, but you labor
for love with perfect confidence that your creator and savior, who owns and controls the whole universe,
is providing for you while you serve Him.

You are not a robot: doing, saying, and thinking only what he tells you to do. No, God will never take
away his gift of free will; you can always choose. But because you have his Spirit, you love God and
joyfully choose obedience to all of his directions on a continual basis. You are free from the invisible
bonds of selfish lust and pride; free to choose to Love. So, by his Spirit in Love, you speak words from
his Spirit and your actions are controlled by Love; Love is your total motivation; Love for God and
your fellow man. You choose to Love because it is good; it is right; it is pure; it is clean; it is kind; it
is peaceful; it is holy. We still have thoughts, even impure thoughts; but we don't act on them, because
we choose the way of Love. Jesus said to his disciples that they would be taken before kings and rulers
to testify of Him, and to not rehearse what to say, but rather speak extemporaneously so the Spirit
can control their words; this shows that we still think, but that our past thoughts should not govern
our present speaking; for Love needs the freedom to react to every circumstance, which cannot
be anticipated.

Now you are free to eat and drink whatever you want. Now you are free to enjoy life as
you celebrate the creation and your creator. Because you are giving the thanks and
glory, even the enjoyment, to Him. Now you are free from marking special days, free from
cultural customs, free from special rules, free from taboos, etc. All the things that are essential to life
are even better than they were before you became free, because now when you enjoy them, you are not
just consuming them on your lusts, but you are enjoying them with love for the creator who made them
and arranged for you to have them.

Regarding observing special days, Paul was tolerant, allowing that one man entertaining and regarding
one day above another, and another man's days are every day alike, and about meats, and not to judge
one another; "But let him, said he, be fully persuaded in his own mind;” yet he condemns the Jewish
and customs and observation of days, meats, and drink. While observation of a day is a matter of
individual conscience, in which one should be fully persuaded. For a group of believers to observe a
special day is definitely wrong, and a form of religion, which is condemned by Paul: But now after you
have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and
beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and
seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain. Gal 4:9-11. And if your
church leader says you should observe certain days, or certain foods, you are listening to a false prophet;
as Paul says: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the
new moon, or of the sabbath days, Col 2:16. So an individual can choose to celebrate certain days; but
the church, as policy or rule, cannot for it is a form of law.

(This freedom from the Law of Sin and Death does not mean your disobey the laws of your government, See Submitting to Government for
more on this subject).

All things are permissible if accepted with thanks, but not all things are profitable. For example, you can
flirt with other women around you, but you will pay the price of your lust being aroused which quenches
the Spirit; so you don't don't do it, for it not only hurts you, but your love for you neighbor stops you
from being a party to anything that hurts anyone else. For another example, tobacco is permissible, but
not profitable; we all know tobacco is bad for your health and offensive to anyone around you. So you
stay healthy because you love God and want to serve him; and because you love your neighbor, you
don't offend them; love controls you. See, you're not saying no to sin; you're saying yes to love. You
have become love and you don't want to do anything to hurt anyone.

"Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. Love
does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." Rom. 13:8-10. Christ fulfilled
the Law in his life on earth, and Christ fulfills the law in each of his followers that he completes
to His resurrection within them. Because you are controlled by love, you are above the law. You
fulfill the law; the love in you causes you to fulfill the law. You don't violate the law, but you don't run
from the law; you run with love. You're not reactive, you're proactive. You're not trying to avoid the
negative, you're grasping the positive.

James Parnell further describes this grasping the positive as not walking after the flesh, but after the
spirit; being set free.

“And thus is the church of Christ gathered by one Spirit, and by the same circumcised, and baptized into
one life, light, and power, where all dwell as members of one body, of which Christ is the head. And here is
the blessed union and communion in one; and here is God worshipped ‘in spirit and in truth;’ and as Christ
is spiritual, so is [His church, which is] His body, and so are His ordinances; and here are the true
Christians, not those who have the imagination of these things, but they that can witness [testify to the
reality], and possess them in life. They that believe, have passed from death into life; and the life they now
live is by faith in the Son of God; they are new creatures, who are ‘in Christ Jesus,’ to whom there is no
condemnation, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit; against such there is
no law, for they are translated out of that nature, [translated into the higher dimension of
the Kingdom of Heaven] for which the law was added; and are set free by the law of
the Spirit of life, and are made partakers of the divine nature of Christ, by which they are made
Christians. And such now witness the effect of the blood of Christ wrought within them, and the end of His
coming, and the benefit of His death, who are dead with him, and risen through the death of the
cross; and these are those who have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the
Son of God within them; Christ within, the hope of glory
You are free. You see the creation of your Friend. You celebrate all good things around you with thanks
to him for creating them for you and others. You see the whole world, and all that is in it, with new
eyes; you see Him in everything. You see the plan of God. You understand what he is doing. You
are his friend. You know the truth. You have found the peace of God. You are overwhelmed that he
could be mindful of you, but you KNOW he is. You are conscious every second that you are a created
being and that you are working for your creator.

False Freedoms

From the twisting of the scriptures, false freedoms have been proclaimed and are universally
advocated today. The biggest false freedom is what the deficit sects preach: "once you are saved, you
are always saved, even if you commit mass murder;" to believe this calls for great imagination. Or, almost
as bad: just say you accept Jesus, get baptized, and you are going to heaven. False grace is being sold as
a license for sin and wantonness (lack of restraint). Two thousand years ago Jude wrote in 1:4 "For
certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They
are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality ." These early
false prophets and today's false prophets would have you to believe that you are 'free' to continue in
sin; instead of freedom from sin, they promote freedom to sin. They even say the cross
and repentance is 'works,' and therefore should not be undertaken; rather just continue your life free
from doing anything to improve, with gratitude for being spared the punishment that others will
receive, who live exactly like them, but aren't 'saved' like they make-believe. Hypocrites. Stumbling
Blocks. False Freedoms. ( see True Grace vs False Grace for more)

These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them.
For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human
nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those [lustful desires of sinful nature] who live in
error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is
a slave to whatever has mastered him. 2 Peter 2:12-19 (And Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone who
sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34)

and Paul also spoke of false Christians who opposed the crucifixion of the sinful nature:

Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. For many
walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the
cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their
shame—who set their mind on earthly things. Phil 3:17-19

For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13
As long as we live in our sinful nature, we are unruly and incapable of being ruled, controlled, or led by
a Lord or King.
So, if you want Jesus to be your Lord and King, you must put to death your selfish, sinful nature
by repentance to purity.

There is also a whole subculture of music talking about there being no good or evil; this demonic
music extols the freedom of canceling good vs. evil and promises to "vaporize the Judiazer dogs" who
call their practices evil. The "ranters" in George Fox's day believed that all pleasures,
(including drunkenness, adultery, fornication), were sinless if done in faith; of course this is ludicrous.
One of my Hindu acquaintances told me "there was no good or evil; that he was so proficient in evil, that
he was 'good' at evil and therefore 'good'." This is ridiculous too. They have missed the necessary love
that does no hurt to anyone, and they have missed the necessary purity of love. False freedoms.

Below is George Fox's Excellent Clarification Between False Freedom and True Christian Freedom:
From Vol. 4, The Works of George Fox, Doctrinal Books I

A distinction between true liberty and false. By George Fox

God pouring out of his spirit on all flesh, both on sons and daughters, handmaids and servants, etc. all are
to walk in the liberty of this holy, pure, peaceable, gentle spirit of God, that keeps in humility, and in
tenderness and kindness, and leads into righteousness, godliness, and holiness, and into modesty, sobriety,
virtue, and chastity, and into things that be of a good report. In this holy spirit of God is the pure holy
liberty, the fruits of which, are love and peace, etc. And this holy pure spirit of God leads out of strife,
contention, hatred, malice, and envy, and all unrighteousness, and ungodliness, and false liberty of the will
and the flesh, and the inordinate and loose affections that are below. And if the will and the flesh and
inordinate affections have their loose liberty, they set the whole course of nature on fire with the unruly will
and tongue, which is to be limited, kept down, and mortified with the holy spirit of God; in which spirit is
the unity kept, which is the bond of peace, in the church of Christ among all true christians, that are called
the ‘household of faith,’ and ‘of the son of God,’ who is over his house.

And the holy, divine, pure, and precious faith, which is the victory, and purifies the heart, Christ is the
author and finisher of; and the mystery of this faith is held in a pure conscience; by which faith all the
faithful have access to God, and in it do please God. And in this faith all the household of God have unity
and liberty, who are called ‘the household of faith.’ Now this pure holy spirit of God he pours upon all flesh,
and the holy divine faith cannot admit nor join to any loose or false liberty, to the will of the flesh, or
inordinate affections, or to that which is immodest, or not virtuous, or unchaste, or uncivil, or of an evil
report; or to any thing that is unreasonable, or unjust, or ungodly; for such things are to be mortified by the
holy spirit of God, which the unity and liberty are in. And the holy divine faith purifies God's people from
such things, and gives victory over them, which faith works by love; and the pure conscience hath its liberty,
which it is held in, and in it all the faithful are in unity, in which they know they please God. And this is the
faith of God's elect, by which the just do live, which gives them victory over the devil and his works, and that
which is unjust and unrighteous, and purifies the hearts of such as be defiled by it, from that which defiles
it. And Christ Jesus enlightens every man that comes into the world, which light is the life in Christ the
word, by whom all things were made. And the grace of God, which brings salvation hath appeared to all
men. Now in this light and life of Christ, and in this grace of God, which brings salvation, is the true liberty,
and brings to stand fast in the true liberty in Christ the light and life, who makes them free, from all
bondages and false liberties; for all liberties out of the spirit of grace, and light, and life of Christ, are
bondages; for light cannot have unity with the spirit of darkness, the works of darkness. And the light of
Christ gives both understanding and knowledge of all false liberties out of Christ Jesus, and cannot join
with them in those liberties which are out of the light and grace of Christ, no more now than the apostles
and church in the primitive times could with such in their days.

The Jews who opposed Moses and the prophets in their ages, and spoke against them, who were great
professors of the scriptures, did not come into the unity and liberty of the holy ghost the prophets were in.
The holy prophets of God were subject one to another in the spirit of God; but the professing Jews that
erred from the spirit, and rebelled against it, were not subject to the spirit of the prophets, and so were
neither in the liberty nor unity in the spirit of God. And when Christ came, who was conceived by the holy
ghost, and holy men of God who spoke forth scriptures, as moved by the holy ghost; the Jews who professed
all these scriptures, that were given forth from the holy ghost, opposed Christ and the holy men, and
resisted the holy ghost: these did not come into the liberty of Christ Jesus, and the liberty or communion of
the holy ghost. And all those in the apostles' days, that made an outward profession of christianity, which
the apostles and the churches were troubled withal, and some of the seven churches were troubled with
also, which were as raging waves of the sea, which foamed out their own shame, and casting up their mire
and dirt, in Cain's way of envy, Corah's way of gainsaying, and in the error of Balaam, from the spirit of
God; wells without the water of life, trees without holy fruit, twice dead, dead in Adam, and made alive,
dead again, and plucked up by the roots; that cannot grow in the life of Christ, and are become synagogues
of satan; puffed up with high swelling words of vanity, and have fair words and good speeches, but
wandering stars, from the firmament of God's power, not fit for the innocent to steer by to the heavenly
Jerusalem, no more than the outward mariners to steer their course by the outward wandering stars to an
outward port. And such as the apostle calls fierce despisers of them that are good, incontinent, covenant
breakers, having a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, which were and are to be turned away
from.

Though such as these before mentioned, in the apostles' days, and now, may profess liberty for a cloak, to
cloak their evil spirit, and its fruits; though all such actions are not according to Christ, and the grace of
God; for the grace of God has no union with fierce despisers of them that are good, nor with such as are
puffed up with high swelling words of vanity. And though they have good words and fair speeches, and an
outward form of godliness, yet deny the power thereof, and so deny the free liberty in the power of God, and
so the liberty in Christ Jesus, and so the liberty in his grace and light, which is a gracious liberty, that brings
people into favor with God. And the apostles of the true churches, did withstand all loose and false spirits,
and had no unity nor fellowship with them of Cain's, Corah's, Balaam's; trees without fruit, wandering stars,
wells without water, raging waves of the sea, casting up mire and dirt, as they do now against the righteous.
Such as bear these fruits their liberty is not in the spirit of grace, nor in the light and life of Christ. And such
the church of Christ in the apostles' days, and now have not unity with, neither can they join with them in
unity and liberty, that are not in the spirit of grace, light, and life in Christ Jesus, in which all true liberty is,
in Christ the truth that makes them free.

And that spirit that leavens people into malice, hatred, envy, evil surmising, false jealousies, and into rage,
and the root of bitterness, and into disputings and arguments, and whose words eat like a canker, and they
who make a profession in words of the truth, and live not peaceable, and walk not in Christ, but are puffed
up with many idle notions and vain conceits; such fruits are not from the spirit of grace, light and life of
Christ, nor in true faith, which works by love, in which true unity is, and liberty, and love that bears all
things, love that doth not envy, and is not puffed up. For they that profess knowledge and faith, and want
this love of God, they were called as tinkling cymbals, and sounding brass, in the apostles' days, and so they
are now. And God's people cannot set up a tinkling cymbal and sounding brass for the life of righteousness
and truth; though a tinkling cymbal and sounding brass may deceive the simple, and such may devour
them. But it is love that unites all the members of Christ together, to him the head; in which
love they are built up together a spiritual household. And the wisdom that is pure and
peaceable, gentle and easy to be entreated, this is from above. But the wisdom that is from below
is earthly, sensual and devilish; and men that are in this wisdom, and pretend knowledge and faith, without
the love of God, and are incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, with their fair words and good
speeches, and puffed up with high swelling words of vanity, vain disputers, janglers, ‘in a form of godliness,
but out of the power,’ with such the church of Christ had never unity. And that liberty and those fruits are
 not in the spirit of grace, and light and life of Christ; and by their fruits such were and are known to them,
whose liberty and unity is in the light and grace which is in Christ Jesus; and in the grace of God that hath
appeared to all men, and in his spirit which he hath poured on all flesh, the light, which is the life in Christ,
which enlightens every man that comes into the world, all men and women are to have their liberty in
Christ Jesus, in which they all have unity, and an everlasting liberty and unity, and fellowship in the
everlasting son of God, in Christ the head; and in Christ the head they are joined together by his light, life,
and spirit of grace. And all that walk contrary to the light, life, and spirit of grace, let them profess what they
will, they are not in the true liberty and true freedom, nor in the true fellowship with the Father and the son,
and his people; for the true liberty and unity are in the spirit, light, and life of Christ, to which all men and
women, from the first have been directed, that in it they may all live and walk in the true freedom, liberty
and unity, and fellowship with the Father and the son, and one with another. And the true freedom and
liberty are in the gospel, ‘in the glorious gospel of life, peace and salvation;’ which gospel is the ‘power of
God, preached to, and in every creature under heaven.’ And every one's conversation must be according to
this glorious gospel of life, peace and salvation. For they who order their conversation aright by the gospel,
do see and receive this gospel of peace, life, and salvation. And in this gospel, the power of God, is the true,
glorious, peaceable freedom and liberty in the life and salvation in Christ Jesus. And all that do profess the
gospel of Christ, the power of God, in words, and do not live and walk in the gospel the power of God, they
are in bondage under the power of darkness, and are out of the peaceable free liberty of the glorious gospel
of life and salvation, like the raging waves of the sea, casting up mire and dirt, as I said before; and in their
vain arguments and disputings, and false jealousies, murmurings and complainings, revilings, railings,
defamings, unestablished, and to every good work and service of God reprobate. And from such spirits and
leaven God Almighty keep and preserve his people in his light, truth, and spirit of grace and holy faith in
Christ Jesus, who is the holy and heavenly rock and foundation; in him they have life and peace with God,
and are in the holy liberty and freedom. And in him, namely, in Christ Jesus, my desire is, that all his true
and faithful followers may stand fast, in their holy and pure liberty, in him who is holy and pure, who was
first, and is last, and now is the rest of his people, the Amen.

George Fox

London, the 12th of the 8th month, 1685.

As you become purified, you see Christ. He is revealed to you, and he crushes the serpent's
head under his feet. You are at Paul’s final state when he said, ‘It is no longer I that live, but
Christ within me.' Now you are totally free and in a state of paradise continually. You are free from
the world. Free from its cares. Free from yourself. Free from sin. FREE. Free to enjoy all the beautiful
things in the world with wondrous joy and thanksgiving. Free to serve the creator in his plan for you. Free
to be love.

As George Fox in his Journal said:

"therefore you, who know the love of God, and the law of his spirit, and the freedom that is in Jesus Christ,
stand fast in him. Stand in that divine faith which he is the author of in you, and don’t get entangled with
the yoke of bondage. For the ministry of Christ Jesus and his teaching, brings into liberty and freedom; but
the ministry that is of man, and by man, which stands in the will of man, brings into bondage, and under
the shadow of death and darkness."

The yoke of bondage is the world's cultural customs and religions. Legalistic religion is a bondage;
it sacrifices the individual leading of Christ speaking to our consciences. If it is not forbidden by the
Bible (with emphasis on the New Testament) as sin, it should not be forbidden by any religion. All the
dos and don'ts: don't eat this, or don't drink that, or do this on that day, or don't wear that, or wear this,
or don't marry, or don't touch this, or fast once week, or tithe, or get circumcised, or be sure to wear a
cross, or be sure to wear a saint's medal, or wear garlic around you neck, or get water baptized, or eat
black eyed peas on New Year's day, or give everyone gifts to celebrate a certain day, or worship on a
certain day, or wear a hat, or wear your hair in a specific style or length, or observe a feast day, break
bread, eat wine and bread once a month, wear holy clothing, don't use electricity, ride horses instead of
cars, etc. These are forms of religion; they are outward observations, and following them will cause you
to lose your freedom and bring you back into the Law of Sin and Death instead of living by the Spirit of
Life and conducting yourself in obedience to the spirit of love within you - inward religion. For if you
focus on observing any point of the Law, you are denying faith as your justification; and therefore you
have fallen back under the Whole Law, which is impossible for you to keep. None of the above
counts for anything; the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
Galatians 5,v6 By following love, we naturally eschew evil without rules. Stay free, live by faith,
and express your faith in Love; but don't use this an excuse for impure, immoral, or
greedy behavior - for such have no inheritance in the Kingdom of God. Eph 5:5

The opposite of bondage is freedom. Let me illustrate this freedom in another way. I drive a 2001
Toyota Avalon. I don't love my car. I prefer my car over others. I have often wondered if my car was
too luxurious, not wishing to offend anyone. What he told me was to answer anyone criticizing me about
my Avalon by saying, "I like the leather." But he also said, "Anything more than the Avalon would
be idolatry;" a Toyota does have not status or prestige, but a more expensive luxury car does.
"I am not to judge anyone else's lifestyle, and I am to refuse to listen to anyone judging
mine," (direct command to me. Christ is my judge, and I hunger for his correction, for I want to be
pleasing to him; so I seek to hear him daily.)

I don' t love the things of the world, but I have preferences. I am free to enjoy my preferences,
in moderation. This is being free to do what you like. I wear what I like, I eat what I like, I drink what I like,
I live in a house I like, I buy what I like, I go to places I like, I do the things I like, I listen to the music I like.
I live in Christian Freedom because I have faith. And in whatever I do, I give thanks and praise to
our Glorious God. For he created me to have life and enjoy it, and he created all good things for me to
enjoy with thanksgiving and praise to Him. But, whatever he asks me to change, I would change in
a second; i.e., if he asks me to move to Shanghai, I would gladly move there out of my overwhelming love
for him.

And in Letter Number 43, George Fox addresses this freedom as follows:

To all my dear brethren, the flock of God everywhere;

keep together in the power up to God, and
none be discouraged or disheartened at the enemies without,
which are without God in the world;
but be bold all in the power of truth, triumphing over the world.
Hold your freedom, and keep and stand fast in it,
that you may be armed with wisdom, and furnished against your enemies,
who are wiser in their generation than the children of light.
But the wisdom of the Most High is spreading,
and making itself manifest in your hearts,
by which you may comprehend the world's wisdom,
the world's worship and knowledge.
And waiting in that which is pure,
it will lead you into that which was before the world was,
before the false worship was, before the seducers were,
before the antichrist was, and before the outward temple was,
and false prophet and hirelings: (those paid to preach and minister)
and here you will comprehend the world,
and what is done in the world.
Therefore everyone keep your habitation,
abide the trial, and abide the day,
and stand fast in your freedom,
so far as Christ has made you free;
free from man's will and commandments,
which brings into bondage;
free from the fashions and lusts of the world,
the fleshly will, which bondages and burdens the pure.
And to you that cannot witness this, wait, and mind the pure,
and then the burden will be easy;
and wait for redemption and salvation, to make it so.
And your strength is, to stand still,
that you may receive refreshings;
that you may know, how to wait,
and how to walk before God,
by the spirit of God within you.
So God Almighty be with you,
and keep you up to himself under his own dominion,
from under the dominion of Satan,
that you may trample him under your feet.

George Fox

From Fox's Letter 351

And now, my dear friends, concerning true liberty.

The true liberty is in the gospel, the power of God,

which the devil and his instruments, with his false liberty, cannot get into.
And in this gospel is the saints' fellowship,
which the devil with all his false fellowships cannot get into, nor find it;
for it is a mystery.
Likewise, true liberty is in the faith, which Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of,
which gives victory over that which separated man and woman from God,
and by which they have access to God again.
And in this holy, pure, divine, precious faith, that is held in the pure conscience;
which pure conscience has its pure, holy, divine precious liberty,
in this holy, divine, precious faith, which works by love,
(and not as the dead faith does, which works by enmity),
which is the fruit of this holy, pure, divine faith;
and in it is the divine, pure, holy, and precious liberty and freedom.
So here is the divine, holy, pure, and precious liberty in this faith, which works by love,
that is the victory over that which brought man and woman into bondage, and slavery, and false liberty.
So this living faith is the victory over all dead faiths and false freedoms and liberties;
which holy, divine, pure, and precious faith, the saints were and are to contend for,
which Christ the Holy One is the author and finisher of.
So in this holy, divine, pure, and precious faith,
they have a holy, divine, pure, and precious unity and liberty,
which is the victory over the enmity and the adversary, the destroyer, and all his instruments;
and they cannot come within this holy, divine, pure, and precious unity and liberty, which is in the faith;
for it is a mystery, and gives victory over him, and the access to the pure God, and to Christ the author of it;
which all are to stand fast in that liberty with which Christ has made them free,
who is the heavenly and spiritual man, the second Adam.

For the bondage, captivity, and thralldom, false freedom, and false liberty,
were and are in old Adam, in transgression;
and the true liberty is that which Christ the pure and holy one makes free in;
and this is a pure holy liberty, which Christ makes, and sets his people free in;
in which they are all to stand fast over all the false liberties and freedoms, which are bondage.

Also, the true liberty is in the truth, which if the truth has made you free,
then are you free indeed, from him that abode not in the truth, in whom there is no truth.
So then there is no true freedom nor liberty in old Adam;
and he in whom there is no truth, cannot come into this freedom and liberty,
which is not in the truth, but remains in the false.

For the Jews in the days of Christ, boasted of their liberty and freedom,
though they were in bondage both inwardly and outwardly;
and that they were of Abraham their father;
but Christ told them, "the devil was their father, and his lusts you will do."

And also in the days of the apostles, many of the false christians boasted of their liberty;
but who was overcome by them was brought into bondage.

And the apostle was so careful of his liberty in Christ Jesus,

that such as came to spy it out, and were somewhat in conference;
but they added nothing to him;
and unto such he would not give place by subjection, but rather reproved them;
and directed everyone to walk according to the measure of the rule which God has distributed to them.

And also true liberty is in the light, and grace, and the spirit which comes by Jesus,
which by believing in the light, they are grafted into Christ,
and so into true liberty and freedom, and so are entered into the rest, out of the toil of old Adam;
for they are grafted into him, who was before old Adam.

For unbelievers in the light are grafted into old Adam, in transgression.
And the believers in the light, (which is the life in Christ),
are grafted into Christ the word, by which all things were made and created.
So here is perfect, true freedom and liberty.

And likewise, the true liberty and freedom is in the grace which brings salvation,
and not destruction; and teaches to live godly, not ungodly;
and soberly, not unsoberly; and righteously, not unrighteously;
and teaches to deny the world, and not to cleave to it, and not follow it.

This grace establishes the heart, and seasons the words;

the fruits of its liberty and freedom will manifest itself.
And also, the true liberty in the pure holy spirit of God and Christ does baptize
and plunge down that which is gotten up by transgression in man and woman,
and circumcises and cuts off the body of death and sin in the flesh,
that is gotten up in man and woman by transgression,
and mortifies and kills that which would grieve, vex, or quench the motions of the pure spirit of God;
so that in this holy, pure spirit, of this pure God and Christ,
is the holy pure freedom and liberty over all bondage and false liberties and freedoms.
And the fruits of this pure spirit are love, righteousness, and godliness, patience, temperance, and humility;
by which spirit all are made to drink into one spirit;
so that all are the living wells, that have their living water from God and Christ,
their true and living fountain;
and in which spirit they have a holy and spiritual fellowship,
in this baptizing, mortifying, circumcising spirit, yes, one with another,
and with the son and the Father also,
through which the love of God warms every one's heart.
But when the love of many waxes cold, as Christ said,
then they go from this grace, light, truth, power, and spirit,
and the anointing, and the word of God in their own hearts;
then such turn to be betrayers, and not saviors upon mount Zion.
And against such God's swift judgment turns, and suddenly falls,
though they may cry for a time, liberty, freedom, and peace, peace;
but a day of trouble will overtake them before they are aware.
And therefore, all you friends of Christ Jesus,
stand fast in that liberty with which Christ has made you free,
by his light, grace, truth, spirit, faith, and everlasting gospel, the everlasting power of God,
which is an everlasting freedom and liberty above all bondage and false fallen liberties and freedoms;
in this glorious gospel, and glorious joyful liberty,
where all may exercise God's and Christ's holy gifts in his holy supernatural light, grace, truth, spirit,
and divine faith, and word of life, and the gospel;
which word cannot be bound with all the world's cords or chains;
'for it is a fire to burn, and a hammer to break, and a sword to cut in pieces.'
And therefore, love the word, and keep the word of patience, and the Lord will keep you,
for it is a tried word, and it will keep you in all trials,
which shall come upon all the world to try them.
For the word was before the world was, and will be when the world is gone,
which all the new born babes of the incorruptible seed,
who partake of the milk of the word, grow by it up into an immortal life,
and kingdom that is without end; 'Glory and praises to the Lord God forever.'

George Fox

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Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God. Matthew 5:9

Follow Peace with all men

and Holiness,
without which
no man shall see the Lord
Hebrews 12:14

The fruit of righteousness will be

peace;
the effect of righteousness will be
quietness and assurance forever.
Isaiah 32:17

This web site is dedicated to achieving righteousness: the effect of which is quietness and assurance
forever. The goal is peace.

Peace begins with the gospel of peace to the world:

He created you. You are on the earth in the midst of evil. You were born in it. You are part of it. He
doesn't blame you. He forgives you. His beloved first born Son has paid the price of all your sin. He
wants you back with him. He wants to be with you. He wants to love you, and he wants you to choose to
love him. He wants to give you riches beyond your imagination, but a different kind of riches than what
you know on earth. Trust him. He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him. He asks you to
please listen to his Son and keep his commands. So he can give you his peace. Follow his commands;
be free from worry, doubt, fear, agitation, uncontrolled emotion, habits - all of which disturb your
peace. There is peace between God and you. Accept this peace and seek Him through Jesus. Who had the
joy of creating you, and now has the joy of reuniting you with the Father. He awaits you.

And so we have God's assurance that there is peace between us and him. The door is open. It is free to
all who accept the sacrifice of Christ for us. And knowing this, we are free from fear of punishment
or condemnation from him as we seek him.

And this is a peace that no other faith can claim. For they don't have the promise. They don't have
the sacrificial example of a perfect life to follow. They can only tell themselves their doubts are
probably wrong and force their minds to stop thinking about them, or think about something else. They
can train themselves to become less emotional; they can train their minds to not react; but they can't
attain the bond of perfect peace in the unity of the Spirit, which we can obtain if we strive to achieve it.

But it is not enough to accept his forgiveness without seeking the Kingdom of God and
its righteousness within you, thereby building peace inside yourself, making peace to become
a child of God; for without peace within, you stand outside Him and His Kingdom and his
righteousness, the fruit of which is peace - quietness and assurance forever.

All below are several selections from George Fox's Journal,

thanks be to God for his record being preserved for us, even today, 350 years later.

The first selection is one where he defines the first step to peace: IN SILENCE:

Therefore be still awhile from your own thoughts, searching, seeking, desires, and imaginations, and
be stayed in the principle of God in you, that it may raise your mind up to God, and stay it upon God,
and you will find strength from him, and find him to be a God at hand, a present help in the time of
trouble and of need. And you being come to the principle of God, which has been transgressed, it will
keep you humble; and the humble God will teach his way, which is peace, and such he does exalt. Now
as the principle of God in you has been transgressed, come to it, that it may keep your mind down low
to the Lord God; to deny yourself, and from your own will, that is the earthly, from which you must be
kept. Then you will feel the power of God, which will bring nature into its course, and let you see the
glory of the first body. There the wisdom of God will be received, (which is Christ, by which all things
were made and created), and you thereby preserved and ordered to God's glory. There you will come to
receive and feel the physician of value, who clothes people in their right mind, whereby they may serve
God and do his will. For all distractions, unruliness, and confusion are in the transgression; which
transgression must be brought down, before the principle of God, which has been transgressed against,
be lifted up; whereby the mind may be seasoned and stilled, and a right understanding of the Lord may
be received; whereby his blessings enter, and are felt over all that is contrary in the power of the Lord
God, which raises up the principle of God within, gives a feeling after God, and in time gives dominion.
Keep in the fear of the Lord God; that is the word of the Lord to you. For all these things happen to you
for your good, and for the good of those concerned for you, to make you know yourselves and your own
weakness, and that you may know the Lord's strength and power, and may trust in him. Let the time
past be sufficient to everyone, who in any thing has been lifted up in transgression out of the power of
the Lord; for he can bring down and abase the mighty, and lay them in the dust of the earth. Therefore,
all keep low in his fear, that thereby you may receive the secrets of God and his wisdom, may know the
shadow of the Almighty, and sit under it in all tempests, storms, and heats. For God is a God at hand,
and the Most High rules in the children of men. This is the word of the Lord God to you all; what the
light does make manifest and discover, as temptations, distractions, confusions; do not look at the
temptations, confusions, corruptions; but at the light which discovers them and makes them manifest;
and with the same light you may feel over them, to receive power to stand against them. The same light
which lets you see sin and transgression, will let you see the covenant of God, which blots out your sin
and transgression, which gives victory and dominion over it, and brings into covenant with God. For
looking down at sin, corruption, and distraction, you are swallowed up in it; but looking at the light,
which discovers them, you will see over them. That will give victory, and you will find grace and
strength; there is the first step to peace. That will bring salvation; and by it you may see to the
beginning, and the" Glory that was with the Father before the world began;" and come to know the
seed of God; which is the heir of the promise of God, and of the world which has no end; and which
bruises the head of the serpent, who stops people from coming to God. That you may feel the power of
an endless life, the power of God which is immortal, which brings the immortal soul up to the
immortal God, in whom it does rejoice. So in the name and power of the Lord Jesus Christ, God
Almighty strengthen you.

and

And now, my dear friends, the Lord does require more of you than he does of other people, because he
has committed more to you. He requires the fruits of his spirit, of the light, of the gospel, of the grace,
and of the truth; for by your fruits is he glorified, (as Christ said), in your bringing forth much fruit,
fruits of righteousness, holiness, godliness, virtue, truth, and purity; so that you may answer that
which is of God in all people. Be valiant for his everlasting, glorious gospel in God's Holy Spirit and
truth, keeping in the unity, and in the Holy Spirit, light, and life, which is over death and darkness, and
was before death and darkness were. In this spirit we have the bond of peace, which cannot be broken
except you go from the spirit, and then you lose this unity and bond of peace, which you have from the
Prince of peace.

and

CHRIST JESUS said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God." Mat
5:9. So all Christian men are to forsake evil and do good, to seek peace and follow it, if they will "love
life, and see good days."1 Pet 3:10-11. God has called all true Christians unto peace, 1 Cor.7,15.
Therefore, all Christians ought to follow this peace, which God calls them to. They should let the peace
of God rule in all their hearts; which is above the peace of this world that is so soon broken. For the
apostle commands the Christians to let the peace of God rule in their hearts; to which all Christians
should be subject. The practice of this should be among all that profess Christianity; and this peace is
above that which Christ takes from the earth. Rev 6:4. which is the peace of the wicked. The apostle
said to Christians, "Be at peace among yourselves." 1Th 5:13. All Christians should obey this command,
and be at peace among themselves; not in wars and strife. Further, the apostle exhorts Christians to
"keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace." So this unity, this bond of peace should be kept (and
not broken) by all that bear that noble name, Christian. They should keep the unity of the spirit of
Christ in the bond of the Prince of princes', King of kings', and Lord of lords' peace,
which is the duty of all true Christians. With this they may honor Christ, in bringing forth the fruits of
peace, which are love and charity. For the apostle tells you, "The fruits of the good spirit are love, joy;
and peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, etc." Gal.5:22. The apostle exhorts Christians, "If it
be possible, as much as lies in you, live peaceably with all men." This should be the endeavor
of all Christians.

and

Therefore be awakened, all you talkers of the scripture, that gather yourselves together by your
multitudes and meetings, and have had your teachers; but not having the spirit that gave forth the
scriptures, the Lord God of glory, the Father of spirits, will scatter you. All your bonds will not hold you
together, who are out of the spirit, which is the bond of peace. The threshing instrument is gone
forth, which will beat the hills to pieces. Zion is risen to thresh. Out of the holy mountain is the
trumpet sounded.

and

The manifestation of the good spirit is given to every man to profit from; and no man can profit in the
things of God but by the spirit of God which brings to deny all sin and evil. It is said of Israel, Neh
9:20, 26 “The Lord gave them his good spirit to instruct them, yet they rebelled against it." If all people
would mind this manifestation of the spirit which God has given to instruct them, it would lead them
to forsake all manner of sin and evil, enmity, hatred, malice, unrighteousness and ungodliness, and to
mortify it. Then in the spirit of Christ they would have fellowship and unity, which is the
bond of peace; then would love and peace, which are the fruits of the good spirit, flow
among all that are called Christians.

Therefore silence all flesh, and see your own ways be clean;
and as you grow, therein, the way of peace will be more prized by you,
and the perfect bond you will come to know.
And all who are here established shall stand in strength,
when others fall on the right hand and on the left.
(from Letter 47 )

and

Blessed are all those whose minds are staid upon the Lord, for they shall be kept in perfect peace; so
where the mind is staid upon the Lord, there is perfect peace, for it is a whole peace which cannot be
broken. So here is not only a perfect peace, but a blessing; a perfect peace which comes from the God of
all peace, that bruises the serpent's head under your feet, (the troubler) and the blessings which comes
from the blessed God. So all imperfect peace may be broken, that is when the mind is staid upon any
creature, or in any creature (and not upon the Creator) or in any outward things. Goods, houses, lands
or inventions of the vanities, in the foolish vain fashions, which the lust of the eye, and the pride of life
go into, which will defile it and corrupt it, when any of these things fail, and are not according to your
mind, it being in them, then your peace is broken, and you are cross, and brittle, and envy gets up; so
this is not a perfect peace, but is a broken peace, and then you have the trouble and not the blessing;
and the reason is, because your minds are in the creatures, and the outward things, and are not staid
upon the creator, where the perfect peace is, and the blessing, where nothing can get between you and
the Lord. And this is below Job to have the mind in the creatures, and visible things, for when you are
tried, and creatures fail you, you are crossed, and troubled, that shows an imperfect state; for God said,
that Job was a perfect man: and when that the Lord suffered him to be tried, and when that his goods
and houses were thrown down, and driven away, and servants killed, he said, Blessed be the name of
the Lord, for the Lord gave and the Lord takes; here his mind was stayed upon the Lord, and he
retained his peace. And when that his children were destroyed, and his wife said to him, what, do you
continue in your integrity still? Curse God and die; he rebukes her, and calls her, A foolish woman:
and said unto her, Shall I receive good of the Lord and not evil? Naked came I out of my Mothers
womb, and naked I must return again. Here Job kept his integrity still, and did not all this while
offend with his lips. Now many of you who think highly of yourselves, and above Job; but if your
Goods and children should be after the same manner taken away, (whose mind is in them), you would
be found in a troubled brittle state, far below Job. And when that Job's friends came to reason with
him, who kept his integrity, and would no way yield to them, they called him an hypocrite, and said, he
denied prayer, and filled his belly with east-wind, and said, What shall mortal man be more pure than
his Maker? Shall man that is born of a woman be just? God charges his Angels with folly, and the
heavens are not clear in his sight. And these are the scriptures the priests use to bring against friends
(who keep their integrity) as Job's friends did against him; but at the last the Lord commanded Job to
offer a sacrifice for his friends, because they had sinned, and spoken not right, as Job had, who was
perfect and kept his integrity. And the Apostle said to the saints, That he had learned in all conditions
to be content. Mark, in all conditions, but this was when he was Paul, not when he was Saul, running
 up and down with his packet of letters, haling the saints before the rulers like a Praetor; then he was
not content, neither with his own condition, nor others: But when he came to learn of Christ, which
destroys the devil and his works, which teaches to know all things, then in all things he learned to be
content; so that you know that there is learning, learns, and learned; as a child when he is learning,
has learned, and become learned is three states; so Paul had learned in all conditions to be content;
and who was his schoolmaster but Christ, by whom all things were made, not of man, nor by man (out
of the truth;) so while he learned of men, and by men, he was not content; neither are any others.

Therefore all are to learn of Christ the light, the life, and the truth, that you may come to that
condition, to have learned in all conditions to be content, and not to trust in uncertain riches, for they
have wings and will flee away; and so he is never counted a wise man that will put any confidence in
that which will flee away from him: for those are the heirs of the earth and the world that load
themselves with thick clay, that they may set their nests on high; but they that be heirs of Christ, and of
the power of an endless life, trust in the living God, and come to possess an everlasting inheritance of
the power of an endless life, and come to increase in the riches of the everlasting inheritance, and there
lay up riches that are everlasting, which will abide for ever. And so therefore mind every one God's
word in your hearts, and in your mouths, and obey it and do it; and be not of them that are saying in
their hearts, who shall ascend or descend to fetch him from above? Keep down that sayer under
reproof, and then your ears will be open to that which the righteousness of faith said, The Word is near
you, in your heart, and in your mouth, so thou need not to say, who shall ascend or descend, and that
was the Word which the messengers of God preached, and do preach, and rebuke the gainsayer.

George Fox

You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, Because he trusts in You. Isa 26:3

The way to peace is through the mystical missing cross. You must bear you cross daily to be his
disciple. You must crucify the lusts and affections of the flesh. You must mortify the deeds of the flesh
by the Holy Spirit. This is the only way to true peace. Then you will be able to worship Christ and
the Father in spirit and truth.

THE EXCELLENCE OF PEACE WITH GOD

STEPHEN CRISP speaking at Devonshire House, (meeting house) on the 5th day of the
8th month, 1691.

My Friends,

It is man's great happiness in this world to have acquaintance with God, with the Lord that made him,
from whom he has life and breath here, and his eternal welfare hereafter. This doubtless every one will
acknowledge one time or another, that peace with God is a great jewel, and the best estate and riches.
It is the great desire of everyone, that they may attain to this one time or other; and there is a great
neglect of happiness among the sons and daughters of men, in not seeking it, in not laboring to attain
it while it is to be had. Oh! How many trifle away their time about fading and perishing objects, and
know at the same instant that they are yet destitute of the favor of God, and peace with Him. Oh,
friends! The very thoughts and consideration of the worth of this jewel, and all the misery of being
without it, and the uncertainty of our time while it is to be attained, might put everyone upon a serious,
diligent inquiry, after the way and means by which they might attain it, so that they might have a
resting place for their souls, and satisfaction to their inward man; that it shall go well with them, when
time shall be no more.

And they that come to this consideration, and are resolved in their hearts and minds, that they will
labor after this, and set their whole endeavor after it, they will in the first place seek the Kingdom of
God, and the righteousness thereof. These do need a daily encouragement in their way to heaven, and
there is nothing on the Lord's part lacking for all such souls, but that they may attain their desire.

But, alas! This has been, and is still, the misery of thousands. They are seeking after peace with God,
but they err in the way to it, they do not seek in that way, nor take hold of those methods, by and
through which God has promised peace. You shall scarcely find anybody, who would not like to have
eternal life, and peace with God; we shall not need to persuade people to wish for, and to desire to have
peace with God, when they shall come to die, and lay down their heads in the dust. There is not a
Balaam, but he desires to die the death of the righteous, and that his last end may be like his. There is
not a Scribe, or a Pharisee, or any that profess religion, but those who are seeking eternal life. The Lord
Jesus did witness concerning them, that they were an envious, proud, persecuting people, yet that they
did seek after eternal life, and they fixed upon some methods and ways whereby they thought to get
and enjoy it, and so are a great many people at this every day. They are in a state and condition in
which they are not likely to enjoy it; the methods and ways that they have chosen to themselves, by
which to find eternal life, and to obtain peace with God, will never answer the end.

And God has been pleased to discover in us the many byways that people have chosen, and by which
they seek peace with god, therefore we are willing at all times to show people their error, in these
greatest matters, a highest concern to them. If they did err in their way of seeking to obtain some
earthly good, and missed their end, they know the price of it, it is a loss of so much, which, if they had
taken a right course, they might have attained; but it is an unspeakable loss, an inestimable loss, if
they lose peace with God, and all the pains and labor they seek to obtain it.

I beseech you, friends, consider these things; they are of great weight, and your will say so one day or
another. For, said our savior, what will it profit a man to gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Oh, how sad is it to consider, that a man has not
made provision for his soul; that he has not a place of rest for his immortal soul, when his body can
retain it no longer! If this be a man's state when he comes to die, it had been better for him that he had
never been born. Men may live and gather riches, and enjoy a plentiful estate; but if they are destitute
of the favour of God, lack peace with Him, what will they do with their perishing enjoyments? They
cannot really satisfy themselves with these transitory, visible things; but if these person's mind only
their bodies, and neglect their souls, do they not live like the beasts that perish? The beast seeks after
his meat, and when he finds it, he eats it with delight and pleasure, and in a little while he lies down
and dies; and so it is with careless souls, they have no regard for their future state; but say, Let us east
and drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we shall die.

Oh that every one of us here did apply our hearts seriously, to the consideration of the weight of these
things which concern our eternal state. If persons did this, then they might come to an inquiry into
their own souls, what method and way is most safe for the attaining of so blessed an end. For you know
there are abundance of people,--if you look up and down in the world, you will see almost everybody
hunting up and down, in some way of religion or other, and engaged in religious performances. What
is the matter? What would you have? We would have peace with God here, and everlasting rest in the
kingdom of heaven in this life and the next. Thus have the nations been scattered and driven up and
down, in the pursuit of happiness and satisfaction.

There is a general belief among people, that there is a heaven, and a hell; and that they must have their
part in one of them. There are none that desire a portion in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.
These profane wretches that cry to God to damn them, they do not mean what they speak, they would
be saved for all that; everyone will cry at last, "Lord, have mercy upon me!" if he only has time to say
so. Let us cry now: Lord, have mercy upon me! Lord, bestow your favor upon me! Lord, lift up the light
of your countenance upon me! Lord, touch my hard heart and soften it, and break it by the power of
your Spirit; open my eyes that I may see the wonderful things of your law; open mine ears, that I may
hear your voice! It is good for people to make use of time while they have it. Whosoever calls upon the
name of the Lord shall be saved, and God will pour out his wrath upon those that do not call upon his
name. He that calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved; and God gives great encouragement to
people to seek after him.

What do you mean by seeking after God? I have gone to church, and said my prayers; I have gone in
that way in which my fathers have led me, and directed me; I hope I shall find mercy at last. I am a
believer; I believe in Jesus Christ that died for my sins; and rose again for my justification; I hope,
through the merits of Jesus Christ, I shall be saved. What do you mean by seeking after the Lord? Do
not we all hear of Him, and pray to him every day?

Is there anything more common than this, that people speak to one another generally about. As for the
general knowledge of God, you and I may see to our sorrow, that a great many cry, Lord! Lord! that are
never likely to enter into the kingdom of God. If all that take the name of God in their mouths, should
enter into the kingdom of heaven, it would be a very foul kingdom. If all the drunkards and fornicators
of England, and all the profane and ungodly person, that will take the name of God in their mouths,
should enter into the kingdom of heaven, it would be a very unclean and impure kingdom. There is
nothing enters therein that is unclean, that is abominable, that loves to make a lie. So that there must
be some more peculiar people that shall have an abundant entrance into the kingdom of God; and
there must be something that will entitle them to it. For you may remember our savior said, No man
knows the Father but the Son, and him to whom the Son shall reveal Him. So much as may be known
of God by works, you and I may know, without the revelation of Christ; we need not wait for this
knowledge; we can have it by books, we can have it without Christ's revelation. Nothing would serve
some in our savior's time but eternal life; and our Lord Jesus bids them Search the Scriptures, for in
them, said he, you think to have eternal life, and they are they which testify of me. Yet, for all the
profession they made, He tells them: No man has seen God at any time, neither seen his shape nor
heard his voice. They were strangers to God, though they had a general knowledge of God.

So it is at this day; there is a general knowledge of God, and people hope to attain peace with God, and
eternal life. Their parents and their tutors have instructed them in the principles of Christianity, and
about the attributes of God; but all this will not bring them to a saving knowledge of God, and
reconciliation with Him. For a man who is as wicked as the devil can make him, knows these things,
and yet may be a servant of the devil, and do his work. He is not born again, and become a child, by all
his eternal knowledge. Now that he desires to come to the true saving knowledge of God, our savior has
told us, That none know the Father but the Son, and him to whom the Son will reveal Him. This is the
sure way to come to the true knowledge of God the Father. Christ has the key of David, which opens
and no man can shut; and shuts and no man can open. He can bring us to behold the glory of God in
his own face. Without Him we are never likely to come to the saving knowledge of God.

Poor man is in a lapsed, fallen state! He is fallen into sin, and is in a state of alienation from God; and
therefore he cannot come to Him but by a mediator: There is one mediator between God and man, the
Man, Christ Jesus; and He must make peace for him, else he will never have it. How then shall we
come to Christ, if He is the only means, and there is not other, by which we may come to the knowledge
of God, as the Scripture speaks? Hearken to it, how may we come to Christ? I answer, you will never
come to Him, if he does not first come to you; you will never be able to do it. It is not coming to Christ,
when you say, you believe that Christ died and rose again, and ascended up into heaven and that He
sits at the right hand of God, and lives forever to make intercession for his people; and when you read
those words and doctrines which He preached up and down, at meetings and solemn assemblies. But if
you believe the He is the eternal Son of God, and the author of eternal salvation to all that obey Him,
you must come to Him, and entirely give up yourselves to his glory and service. Without this, you
cannot come to Him, nor will He bring you to the Father. Christ is come near to us, He stands at the
door of our hearts, and He stands and knocks. Behold! that is the word that calls for attention, for
people to take notice of, Behold, I stand at the door and knock. What do you knock for? Said Christ,
That you may open the door of your heart; for if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come
in to him, and sup with him, and he with me, and this grace that brings salvation has appeared to all
men. This manifestation of the Spirit and light within, we have from Christ. These are the ways and
methods which the Lord Christ has taken to approach near to us. Now your own reason will tell you, if
this is the way and means that Christ takes to approach near to us, we cannot take another way to
approach to Him. If Christ has taken I say, this way to approach us, by the light and manifestation of
his own Spirit, which convinces us of sin; if this is Christ's way of coming to us, there can be not other
way of our coming to Him, but by the same method of his grace.

He said: If you have the light, believe in the Light. I have the light; I am enlightened; there is
something that discovers your evil thoughts. Why must I believe in the light? That you may be the
children of light as our savior speaks. They that are the children of the light shall have it for their
inheritance; and they that are children of darkness, must have darkness for their inheritance. While we
have the light, we must believe in it, and we shall be made children of the light. God has sent his Son,
and the Son has sent his Spirit and his heavenly grace into our hearts, that we may draw near to Him,
and be directed how to attain acquaintance with Him, and to do what pleases God, and come to be in
union with Him, and do the works of God. This is what God requires of us, That we believe on Him
whom He has sent; that we may embrace the light, and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pray what do you mean by believing? There is something within me checks and reproves me for sin,
and calls me off from it, and bids me turn over a new leaf. Must I hearken to this? Is this what you
mean by believing? As to this degree of believing, they that neglect it now, shall believe it hereafter; for
all the world at last, and the damned in hell, shall certainly confess, that there was grace, and light, and
means afforded to them, and they might have gone further, and escaped that misery which they are
fallen into.

But there is a more precious faith that I would have you partake of, a Faith that works by Love. Since
the Lord has been so gracious as to extend his mercy and love to me, I am so captivated with the love of
God, that I will be obedient to Him. This Faith that works by love, is the faith of God's elect; that by
which we may obtain victory over our passions and lusts, and over Satan and the snares of the world.
When we are come close with the grace of God, and to believe in Christ, this is well; but we must also
yield obedience and subjection. Yet when faith has brought forth obedience, you cannot be justified by
it, you cannot be saved by your obedience, without Christ: He is the Author and Finisher of our faith,
and a mediator from first to last.

Now all who come close with the appearance of Christ in their own hearts, they have laid hold of the
method appointed for their coming to him. It is Christ they must hear; He is come so near to men that
they may hear his voice, and hear Him tell us our very thoughts. Why should I not hear Him when he
checks me and reproves me for sin? He comes near, and tells me that I have done amiss. Lord, I have
done iniquity, I will do so no more. Thus Christ converses with his people, and does not only check and
reprove them, when they do what is evil; but persuades them and enables them to do good. He is a
mediator, He is a middle person, and has taken flesh upon Him, that He might reconcile them to God,
who believe in Him.

Now, when we come to have acquaintance with God, and have chosen Him to be our God, he teaches
us what is good, and reproves us for what evil we have done. Who can choose a better guide, to lead
him into acquaintance with God, than Christ that is conversant with us, piercing into our thoughts, and
speaking to us? I may hear Him with the inward ear of my heart. When I do evil, He checks me for it,
and tells me the thing I should seek is of inestimable value; and if, through my unbelief and
carelessness, I miss of it, it had been better for me that I had never been born. Now we are in the way
of coming to receive the end of our faith, the salvation of our souls, let us not neglect so great salvation.
No man can save himself, nor save the soul of his brother, nor find a ransom, nor procure an offering
for the expiating of his sin; therefore let every one that would have his sin expiated and pardoned, and
cannot be satisfied and quieted till he has peace with God, let him come to Christ the mediator, and
come with faith and truth in the inward parts, and submit to Him, and be willing to be ruled by Him;
then Christ will save him, and present him without spot or blemish to his Father.

Consider that those who are the people of God, are led by the Spirit of God; and those who have missed
their way to reconciliation with God, that love any other way, or think to come to God any other way
than by Jesus, the mediator: their labor will be lost. Therefore I must exhort and persuade you who are
out of the way, that you would take God's method, and come into God's way. The terms, I have told
you, are made already; the bargain is not to make now,--I will give you so much to be at peace with
God, or I will part with this or the other thing that is dear to me. No, the agreement is made between
God and Christ, and his Covenant is ordered in all things, and sure; and his covenant stands sure with
none, but those that are in Christ Jesus. There was a covenant made with Abraham: In your seed shall
all the nations of the earth be blessed. The promise is made to the seed, that is, to those that are in
Christ; the faithful are counted the seed. Now the faithful are those that are obedient to Christ, who is
the seed of promise, in whom all the families of the earth are blessed. They must come to Christ the
seed; they must not rebel against Him; they must come to Him, and believe in Him. Be there never so
many nations and families in the world, the promise is not to them, but to as many as the Lord our God
shall call.

Here is the way for people to lay hold of, for coming into acquaintance with God, which is of so great
necessity before they die; they must come to Christ himself, by his Spirit in their own hearts. We need
not go to this and the other learned man, and inquire of this and the other sort of people; but we must
cry to God for help and direction, and come unto Him, and give up all the powers and faculties of our
souls to Him, to be governed by Him. God will have servants that will be obedient to Him. If ever we
come to obtain salvation, we must have another master: One is your master, even Christ. I must come
under the government of Christ, and He must lead me, and rule me, if I will be a child of God.

When people come to see there is not an effectual way, except submitting to the grace of God in their
own hearts, and yielding themselves up to the dictates of the Spirit of Christ in their souls; when they
come to this, there are many hazards and difficulties to be encountered. There is the appearance of the
cross of Christ, and we must take up this cross if we will follow Christ, and be obedient in all things
unto Him. This is what will kill all my pleasures, lay waste all my religion, and destroy all my hopes, I
must be like a man that has built a house without a good foundation; I must pull it all down again, and
I must come to build up again upon a new foundation.

Here many have turned aside; the cross of Christ has seemed to them so sharp, and hard, and
intolerable, that they could not bear it; they would not be at the charge of such a religion. What! Must I
part with all my delights, and my beloved lusts and pleasures, and all my interests in the world, for
Christ? I cannot part with these; these things lie in my way, I must rather lose my soul than part with
what is so pleasing to me, and join with the light of my own conscience, and the truth in my inward
parts? What! Must I not have so much as liberty of thought? What! Must my thoughts be regulated by
what is so cross and repugnant to my mind? Must I throw out all evil thoughts out of my heart, and
suffer none but the good thoughts to remain there? Who can stand here? Who can bear such strictness
as this? Rather than endure this, I will choose to lose my soul. Many have lost the truth on this
account; and many are in danger to lose their souls.

If there is in you any desire of peace with God, so that you may not go from here before you have
attained it, take hold of the present opportunity. Hardness of heart is a desperate plague; it comes
from a long obstinate continuance in sin. When we have withstood the day of God's patience and long-
suffering, and grieved the Holy Spirit of God; then God gives us up to our own hearts' lusts, because we
choose to follow the voice of the charmer, however wise he appears . When we stop our ears, and will
not attend to the calls of God; when men will go on, and nothing can stop them, in the career of their
lusts and pleasures, but they will retain their carnal delight and friendship with the world, this
hardness of heart becomes a desperate plague. Take heed of it, that it does not overtake you, and bring
ruin and destruction upon you. Consider the patience and long-suffering of God, and let his goodness
lead you to repentance. Consider, God has waited to be gracious to you, he has exercised much long-
suffering and patience towards you; whereas He might have cut you off long ago, and given you your
portion with the damned in hell: but He has hearkened to the voice of the mediator who has pleaded
for you; He has extended his patience and long-suffering to the wicked and rebellious also; and for this
reason, the apostle tells us, Christ is the savior of all men, especially of them that believe.
 Now the patience and long suffering of God has been lengthened out to all, and we have not improved
it. Conscience has been sensible of the inward strokes and rebukes of God for sin, and of the inward
calls of his grace to bring us to repentance; but we have not regarded these calls, nor hearkened to the
voice of God, so as to hear, that our souls might live. Oh let us not put off our repentance any longer!
But today, while it is called today, let us hear his voice, and harden not our hearts; but be of tender
heart; let our hearts be softened and tendered under the word of God, and under the strokes of his
judgment. If ever the Lord bring you under a tender frame, you will receive the word of God with
meekness, and mix it with faith. Then it will work effectually to the amendment of your lives; it will
work faith in those that are unbelievers, and strengthen the faith of those that believe. Then we shall
have come to bless the Lord, and praise and magnify his great name, for his patience, long-suffering,
and mercy, which at this day he has lengthened out, and graciously extended to us.

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We, who accept the sacrifice of Christ and his grace to allow us to seek union with him, have a peace
based on knowing that as we seek Him, the creator of the universe is watching over us, protecting
us, planning for us, moving the world to our benefit, and always there for us. With this assurance, we
know that everything that comes our way is his will for us; and whatever happens, even if it appears to be
a problem at the time, we know as it is written "all things work together for good to them that
love God, to them who are called according to his purpose;" and because we keep
his commands, he knows we love him. We know that he will make something good out of
any apparent failure or problem. So we have a peace that is based on the love of God to us. We can cast all
of our worries and fears upon him, and depend on him to work everything out to our benefit. We
have confidence that he is working for us, even when we can't see how it is happening; we know he
controls the whole universe, and to work our life to his union, is effortless for him. We know, that
however we fail in our attempts to walk according to his commands, that as long as we are sorry for
the mistakes, we are still covered by his forgiveness and love. He's not counting; he not keeping a record;
he is only urging us to pick our cross back up, and keep going, not looking back, supremely confident,
that the blood of Christ covers it all, and that his sacrifice was for creating more of the ultimate -
humans filled with the love of God and in the bond of peace, all in the unity of the Spirit. One spirit,
one peace, one love, one God, in all of us who find Him. And as we are seeking, we have his promises to
fall back on and reassure us, we have his words of encouragement whispered to us as we quietly wait
on Him, we have his commands to comfort us that we are indeed under orders, we have his discipline
to remind us that he loves us and will not let us fail, and we have the changes he makes in us as proof -
as long as we keep coming back to Him and seeking him in solitude.

Make it your ambition and definitely endeavor to live quietly and peacefully, to mind your own affairs,
and to work with your hands, as we charged you, 1 Th 4:11

Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other. Ps 85:10

For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within you. Ps 122:8

And the work of righteousness shall be peace;

and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance forever. Is 32:17

And as we receive more of his spirit along the way, we become more confident, our minds shift to
being stayed on him more often, and as we become more "God conscious," our peace increases, and
keeps on increasing. And as we receive more of him, we eventually understand everything, for he shows
us what he is doing, and then our confidence is absolute, for we can see God working around us in
a hundred different ways every day, and we can see him in everything, and we have a perfect peace, and
we have a bond of peace that cannot be broken. We have a peace that the world cannot even imagine, for
we now know the One and Only God, our trust in him is infinite, beyond description, and beyond the
world to disturb, for we are in unity, unity with God, and unity with others who are in unity with God,
the peace of unity in the Spirit, the bond of perfect peace in unity of the Spirit.

Here is an explanation of my peace. I KNOW he is in charge of my life. I KNOW that anything that
happens to me is his will for me and therefore good. I KNOW that he is purifying me and will finish the
job shortly. I KNOW that I am going to be with Him forever. I KNOW that he loves me. I KNOW that he is
in me and controlling me. I KNOW that a door has been opened which no one can shut. I KNOW what he
is doing with the world. I KNOW how I fit in that plan. I KNOW he will be my King forever. I KNOW
the Father. I KNOW Christ. I know everything I need to know, for now. I have the BOND of PEACE. It
holds me. It stabilizes me. It keeps me. It assures me.

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Christ's followers are at peace with everyone and do not seek revenge or external change; rather they
seek personal internal change. To them, the world is passing away and involvement in it is a waste of
time. They are told to obey the laws of their governments and be submissive to their governments, no
matter how oppressive they might be.

When you stop resisting government or its policies, or being concerned for who is doing what
in government, you will be amazed at the freedom you will enjoy. The concerns of time are wasting; as
I heard in meditation from the Lord, "You can spend your time trying to correct evil,
or you can spend your time seeking me."

Failure to protest or resist government does not translate to support or endorsement

of government or its policies,
it only preserves and demonstrates your commitment to follow peace
with all men.
Strive to live in peace with everybody and pursue that consecration
and holiness without which no one will see the Lord. Heb 12:14

If possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Rom 12:18
If you protest, or resist the government, or its policies because you think you "have been called" to do
so, please read the below passages from the New Testament which deny such activities. Remember, it
is written that 'Jesus Christ is the same today, yesterday, and forever.' After reading them, ask yourself
the question, from where does "the call" originate? Is the call from the Spirit of Christ within you? If
you think you are "called" to do something, I ask you: Where in the Bible does it speak of being "called,"
as you use it? Called is to be summoned or named. The Bible has not a single reference to "called"
being something that God is requiring you to do, except to come to Him. When he wants you to
do something, he gives you commands and orders; not a feeling, not a desire, not a door opening,
not an inspiration, not a draw, nor a "call." This word is thrown around by some sects to justify
anything anybody feels an inclination to do, as being "called." When you are led by God to do something,
he tells you: 1) exactly what to do, and 2) exactly when to do it; he gives explicit commands
or orders; any other way is not from Him.

What government could have been more oppressive than the Roman government that crucified Christ?
And yet, we can read that never was a word of criticism or protest, much less seditious suggestions,
spoken by Christ or the Apostles before or even afterwards. The Roman government was also
constantly involved in wars and insurrections; but never did any of his followers utter a word of
discontent with the government or its policies.

The Bible teaches Christians to stay uninvolved with the world, including any political activity, and to live
at peace with their governments and all men. Below are reference from the Bible which support
submission to governments. Let those who can hear, hear. The Apostle Paul, in Romans 13, tells
all Christians:

‘Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities,

for there is no authority except that which God has established.
 The authorities which exist have been established by God.
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority,
is rebelling against what God has instituted,
and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right,
but for those who do wrong.
Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority?
Then do what is right and he will commend you.
For he is God’s servant,
and agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities,
not only because of the possible punishment, but also, because of conscience.
This is why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants,
who give full time to governing.
Give everyone what you owe him:
if you owe taxes, pay taxes;
if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect.’

(Note: this submission to the rules of the world, does not extend to submission to a
state imposed religion or religious rules that violate the explicit commands of God: to
not swear, to assemble together, and to obey the voice of the Lord, when heard).)

Peter says in 1 Peter 2:3-4

"Be submissive to every human institution and authority for the sake of the Lord, whether
it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him top bring punishment
and justice to those who do wrong, and to encourage those who do good service.

Even slaves are told to:

“obey your earthly masters in everything:
and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor,
but with sincerity of heart and reverence of the lord.” Col 3:22

Anyone who takes up arms is warned by Christ in the Revelations when he said,
"He that kills with the sword shall perish with the sword;
and here is the faith and patience of the saints." Rev 13:10

We know that wars and fightings proceed from the lusts of men, James 4:1-3
out of which lusts the Lord has redeemed us, and so out of the occasion of war.

We know that the devil is the author of wars, fighting, murder, and plots. (George
Fox's letter below)
Our swords are broken into plough shares, and spears into pruning hooks, as prophesied of in Mic 4:3
Therefore we cannot learn war anymore, neither rise up against nation or government with
outward weapons.

Christ tells us:

“You have heard it said; An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you do
not resist the evil man;
but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, then turn to him the other one too;
And, “if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, Let him have your coat too.”
And, “if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two.”
And, “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”
And, “for if you love only those who love you, what reward can you have, for even
tax collectors do that" Mat 5:38-47
And, "whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of
the judgment" Mat 5:22

So Christ teaches us to love everyone, and to be as gentle as doves and lambs.

He teaches that violence is deplorable in his sight. Mal 2:16

And in Mat 26:53, Christ said to those arresting him,

“Do you not know that I could now pray to my Father,
and he would immediately provide me more that twelve legions of angels?
But how then would scripture be fulfilled that it must come about this way."

Not only would scripture not be fulfilled, but his sacrifice for the world would not have
been made.
He further qualifies why he doesn't resist his arrest and crucifixion
when he explains that he really was not of this world.

My kingdom belongs not to this world.

If my kingdom were of this world,
my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews,
 but as it is, my kingdom is not of this world. John 18:36

So Christ's kingdom is not of this world, and neither do his followers look to the earth
for their rewards, but rather to heaven and to things above.

And Paul in 2 Timothy Chapter 2:4 says “a good soldier does not get entangled in
civilian affairs; his aim is to satisfy and please the one who enlisted him.” Paul is speaking
to Timothy, a fellow minister and teacher for Christ; and is telling him to stay out of affairs
of the world, (including any political activity), but rather to be solely involved in the
work for Christ’s kingdom, a spiritual kingdom that is not visible to this world.

Therefore his servants do not fight as he told Pilate, the magistrate who crucified him.
And did they not look upon Christ as a raiser of sedition? and did not he pray,
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do?"

Here is what William Penn said about submitting to governments:

.. so faith and patience succeeded fighting, in the doctrine and practice of these people.
Nor should they be obnoxious to civil government for this, since they cannot fight for it,
they cannot fight against it... But though they were not for fighting, they were
for submitting to government, and not only for fear, but for conscience's
sake, where Government does not interfere with conscience, believing it to be an
ordinance from God, and where it is justly administered, a great benefit to mankind.
(taken from William Penn's Introduction to George Fox's Journal)

They obeyed all laws, except when a law conflicted with their duty to commands
and understandings from Christ: refusing to swear, refusing to suspend their
worship meetings banned by law, and refusing to pay government-decreed tithes to
officially approved sects that claimed them within their geographic rights to receive tithes.

William Penn speaks from a time when thousands of "children of the light"
were imprisoned, hundreds to their death, and never did they oppose the
Government. Never did they assemble for any reason other than to worship or transact
the business of the church, i.e. relieving suffering. It was a time of: bloody civil wars
that brutally killed entire families, the oppressive government of Oliver Cromwell,
several kings, many conflicting Parliaments, and severe persecution - including 13,000
being sent to prison, over 300 killed by injuries or imprisonment, and 200 sent to
slavery. But there were no member's protests, other than letters and personal,
courteous pleas as to the injustice of the persecutions - never a group of
people demonstrating and protesting even their persecutions; much less some other
policy of any of the many governments they faced.

The Apostle Paul supports his statement in Romans 13:3-5:

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of
the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is
God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword
in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.

Any government should be so confident that they can ignore the true Christians within
their society, confident that they would never raise even an argument against them,
much less armed conflict. They should be able to turn their exposed back to
Christians, concentrating on other matters of their concern, without so much as a
single anxious thought as to their security.

The early Quakers, when sufficiently mature as Christians, were sent to the market places to testify
against lying, wasteful fashions, greed, sexual immorality, swearing, false prophets, etc.,
for which they were greatly persecuted. The later day Quakers, having forgotten what sin
is, instead take to the streets to oppose their government's armed services -
evidently concluding the only evil of man is to bear arms; in stark contrast to the
warnings and definitions of evil in the Bible. Understand, they simply testified against sin in
the markets, not testifying against people they saw sinning - they could not see greed, sexual
immorality, lying, cheating, etc.

All who take to the streets for insurrection or even to criticize others on some social
or political issue, beware - you are violating the commands of Christ and his example. As
a Christian, you are only allowed to criticize the actions of those who name
themselves Christians. It that person is a member of your church, your are to warn him in
a series of escalated warnings and appeals - which if he fails to repent of his actions, you
are to disassociate yourself with them and shun him. But, you are not supposed to
be critical of people outside of the "church;" as Paul says What [business] of mine
is it and what right have I to judge outsiders? .. God alone sits in judgment
on those who are outside. 1 Cor 5:12-13. So, if you go out and confront people on
some political or social issue, [even a protest for Peace, an oxymoron in itself], telling
them they are practicing evil by whatever they are doing, you are guilty of censuring
and passing judgment on those who do not serve God.

Even protests against the military are without any Christian precedent. Consider these
four records:

1) John the Baptist, baptizing in the desert, telling people to Prepare the way of the LORD
by repentance:

So the people asked him, saying, “What shall we do then?”

He answered and said to them, “He who has two tunics, let him give to him who has
none; and he who has food, let him do likewise.”
Then tax collectors also came to be baptized, and said to him, “Teacher, what shall we
do?”
And he said to them, “Collect no more than what is appointed for you.”
Likewise the soldiers asked him, saying, “And what shall we do?”
So he said to them, “Do not intimidate anyone or accuse falsely, and be
content with your wages.” Luke 3:10-14

Remember, the Roman soldiers in Israel were the peacekeepers, the police. So John
the Baptist was telling them to perform their duties, without oppressing anyone. They
performed as the magistrate, who bears the sword against evil doers, to the benefit of
those committed to good. They prevent criminal behavior. Cleary he saw nothing
immoral in serving as a soldier; if he had thought so, he would have told them in no
uncertain words to change jobs. He certainly had no difficulty addressing the
Pharisees: But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his
baptism, he said unto them, O GENERATION OF SNAKES, who has warned you to flee
from the wrath to come.

2) In his Journal, we have records of George Fox converting many soldiers to the Truth,
but he never told any of them to find another job - that was left to Christ to decide when
and if to communicate directly to them. From the Journal:

While I was yet in the house of correction, a trooper [soldier] came to me there and
said that as he was sitting in the steeple-house listening to the priest, and exceedingly
great trouble fell on him; and the voice of the Lord came to him, saying, 'do you not
know that my servant is in prison? Go to him for direction.' So I spoke to his
condition, and his understanding was opened. I told him that which showed him his
sins, and troubled him for them, would show him his salvation; for he who shows a
man his sin, is the same who takes it away. While I was speaking to him, the Lord's
power opened him so that he began to have a good understanding in the Lord's truth,
and to be sensible of God's mercies. He spoke boldly in his quarters among the
soldiers, and to others, concerning truth, (for the scriptures were very much opened
to him), insomuch that he said; 'his colonel was as blind as Nebuchadnezzar, to cast
the servant of the Lord into prison.' Upon this, his colonel conceived a spite against
him; and at Worcester fight, the year after, when the two armies lay near to one
another, two came out from the king's army, and challenged any two of the parliament
army to fight with them; his colonel chose him and another to answer the challenge.
And when in the encounter his companion was slain, he drove both his enemies within
musket shot of the town, without firing a pistol at them. This, when he returned, he
told me personally. But when the fight was over, he saw the deceit and hypocrisy of the
officers; and being sensible to how wonderfully the Lord had preserved him, and
seeing also to the end of fighting, he laid down his arms.

George Fox was arrested, imprisoned, haled before courts, and escorted by men under
arms many times throughout the Journal, but he never said a word to them about
their bearing arms being evil.

There were many soliders who turned Quaker and remained in the army. Many, like
the one above, at a later point in their Christian growth, became unable to harm their
fellow creatures, and requested leave of the unit or a job without fighting. That is a
matter of individual conscience, after God has changed and taught each individual.

William Penn had heard Thomas Loe preach several times before joining the society.
While in Ireland, he heard Loe preach again, and joined; having already attended
several meetings in Ireland, a soldier came into one of the Quakers' meeting and made
great disturbance; at which William Penn went to him, took him by the collar, and
would have thrown him down stairs, except for the interference of a Friend or two
 who requested William to let him alone, telling him the Friends were a peaceable
people, and would not have any disturbance made. This is hard evidence that early
Quakers did not preach against war or outward peace, leaving it to individual
conscience.

Further, at the time of almost throwing the soldier down the stairs in Ireland, Penn
had not yet met George Fox. While recently convinced of the Truth, he went to Fox and
asked him if he should continue to wear his sword. Fox answered, "wear it as long as
you can." Afterwards, meeting Penn without the sword, Fox said, - "William, where is
your sword?" "Oh," said Penn, "I have taken your advice. I wore it as long as I could."
Fox had deliberately left it to Christ as to when to tell Penn to cease wearing his sword,
of which he did cease.}

Fox's Letter to King Charles, the basis of the current Peace Protest Movement,
denouncing the Quakers ever using armed force is below. Click to go and read it. Here
Fox was not lecturing the King on using force, (except against the innocent); he was
explaining how the King had nothing to fear from the Quakers using armed force.
Notice one key line, which is totally ignored by those who use this letter, quoted out of
context, as justification for their peace protests:

"This is a certain testimony unto all the world of the truth of our hearts in this
particular,
that as God persuades every man's heart to believe, so they [too] may
receive it."

Those who attempt to force others to put down their arms are trying to take the place
of God, who must change a man's heart gradually, step by step, to where he could
never even hit a man who slapped him in the face, much less take up arms against
anyone created in the image of God. This change allows a man to love his enemies,
which is impossible for anyone without a new heart and mind.

3) This is in harmony with the way Christ reacted to the soldiers he came into contact
with also. Remember the Roman Centurion who the Jewish leaders asked Christ to
help was greatly admired by Christ when he said: "I tell you, not even in [all]
Israel have I found such great faith [as this]." That is a far cry from being critical of
his occupation, which was freely disclosed without any fear of rebuke. Certainly Christ
does not approve of war in general; but George Fox gave permission to the Quaker
plantation owners to perform as lookouts to inform the authorities of the islands
when bands of pirates were approaching the island for plunder, which resulted in
armed repulsion of the invaders - a non-combatant military role. The point being, just as
the early Quakers did not attack soldiers or their military, neither should we. They were
even given permission to aid defensive military action in a non-combatant role.

4) The great early Quaker, Isaac Penington wrote about Protection of the Innocent,
(the principal function of government), where he said: "I speak not this against
any magistrates' or people's defending themselves against foreign invasions, or making
use of the sword to suppress the violent and evil-doers within their borders, for this
the present estate of things may and does require, and a great blessing will attend the
sword where it is borne uprightly to that end, and its use will be honorable; and while
there is need of a sword, the Lord will not allow that government, or those governors,
to want [lack] fitting instruments [swords] under them for the managing of it, to wait on
him in his fear to have the edge of it [of the sword] rightly directed."Isaac Penington -
1661 (Penington, quoted out of context, is another favored justification for The Peace Protest Movement).

The modern Quakers have twisted the early Quakers' original defense of their
personal refusals to bear arms into an excuse for a holy? attack on those who do bear
arms, apparently falling to the world's wisdom that the best defense is a good? offense.

And such twists of logic always occur in small steps:

1. An individual is convicted by Christ, so that his conscience will not allow him to bear
arms against a fellow human being. Just as he must turn the other cheek, rather than
take revenge when hit by someone.
2. The individual starts telling others they must also not bear arms, not leaving the teaching
to Christ, for what is not forbidden by scripture. Nowhere is war forbidden in scripture -
as sometimes it is necessary to protect the innocent.
3. The group makes it a rule for the church.
4. The church then starts telling those outside the church that war is wrong.
5. The church starts interfering in the business of the military, as part of their
 statement against war.

True religion is to visit the widows, the orphans, and to keep yourself unspotted from
the world. Turn inward; make peace inside by receiving fully the Prince of Peace who
gives you a peace that passes all understanding. Prize your time; you only have so many
days on this earth. Seek the renewal of the inner man to the point that you are one
with Christ and God, with the mind of Christ, and under his full control.

From George Fox's Letter 359

And keep out of the restless, discontented, disquieted spirit of the world about
the government:
for you know it as been always our way to seek the good of all,
and to live peaceably under the government,
and to seek their eternal good, peace,
and happiness in the Lord Jesus Christ,
and to lay our innocent sufferings before them,
who have suffered as lambs and sheep, and made no resistance,
but have "prayed for them that persecuted us, and despitefully used us, and hated us,"
according to the command of Christ.

George Fox

If you are persecuted as a Christian, obeying the laws of your country, it will be to his
glory, and great will be your reward in heaven. You can try to reason with
oppressive governmental authorities, but you are not permitted to resist the
government. The minute a group of Christians even starts discussing the resistance of
their government or its policies, their meeting has crossed the line from worship to
political action, thus betraying the spirit of love within Christianity, to be at peace with
all men, including government employees or officials.

Despite the Christians being commanded to stay uninvolved with this world, which to
them is passing away, they are under command to “as they see the day approaching, [ of
the world ending with the personal return of Christ and his Kingdom to them] ,
assemble themselves together, so that they can encourage each other to practice love
and good deeds.” Heb 10:23-25. As in the early Quakers time, when a law was passed
forbidding the assembly of more than five persons in other than the "state
approved" religion, since the law is in direct conflict with a command of God, it
was disobeyed then and should be disobeyed now. However, as did the Quakers,
meetings should be in a regular place open to inspection; not secret, hidden, or under
some pretext such as eating together. By being open, you show you have nothing to hide
and declare you have no opposition to your government. If government officials show
up, pray for them, welcome them, appeal to them, show them your peace and love to all
men. Despite massive persecutions, in this manner the Quakers eventually prevailed,
and the government persecutions eventually stopped.

Neither can the Christian contribute to any religious activity that violates their
conscience, including a state imposed religion. Nor can a Christian "swear" or take oaths ,
(i.e. in court to swear to "'tell the truth", implying they normally lie, which is inadmissible
to those continually committed to the truth; neither can they claim the aid of God, the
earth, the Bible, your head, or anything they are asked to swear by).

And of course, a true Christian has been changed so much that he or she cannot even
hit another person, (the image of God), much less take up arms for fighting and killing.
If drafted into the military, however, you can still submissively serve in some non-
violent way. A true Christian's commitment to peace, instills a trust by the
Christian's government that permits them to ignore them, confident of their commitment
to peace and to never oppose them or resist them, however vulnerable the
government becomes.

Finally, a Christian could never condone or ignore the unjust persecution of any group of
its neighbors. This reasoning would apply to shielding Jews in Nazi Germany
from deportation to death camps. Such laws that violate the universal human
conscience, must be disobeyed; but even responsible governments would not be targets
of Christian overthrow or sedition, or even protests by citizens of their countries. Pleas,
yes. Organized protests, no.

For such denials and impositions on a Christian conscience, Christians throughout the
ages have gone to prison and suffered torture or even death. This does not mean
that Christians should take to the streets to protest; but rather, simply continue to
meet together, fail to contribute to any state imposed religion, refuse to swear, and refuse
to bear arms, whatever the consequences - even death.
And should a true Christian, (not a hypocrite, who professes Christ but does not
possess Christ), be harmed by government officials, they are told to forgive them, and
not seek revenge, for should they be harmed for their goodness, they will be recompensed
in heaven.

But for those who do harm to his chosen peaceable people, they will have to answer to
the Creator of all; vengeance is mine, said the Lord. It is a terrible thing to wrong the apple
of the Creator's eye; it is a terrible thing to "fall" into the hands of the Living God.
Persons responsible, if not the structure of the entire government, will be destroyed. If
you are an official of government persecuting true followers of Christ for doing nothing
but meeting to worship, beware, the Lord's arm will eventually stretch out against you;
you will deeply regret your persecution of the innocent, who love all men and mean you
and your government no harm.

From George Fox's Journal:

If all that profess themselves Christians walked in the spirit of Christ, and by it did mortify sin and evil,
it would be a great ease to the magistrates and rulers, and would free them from a great deal of trouble, for
it would lead all to “do unto others as they would have others do unto them," and so the royal law of
liberty would be fulfilled. For if all called Christians walked in the spirit of Christ; by it to have the evil
spirit and its fruits cut down in them, then, not being led by the evil spirit, but by the good spirit of
Christ, the fruits of the good spirit would appear in all. For as people are led by the good spirit
of Christ, it leads them out of sin and evil, which the magistrate's sword defends against
and so would be an ease to the magistrates. But as people err from this good spirit of
Christ, and follow the evil spirit, which leads them into sin and evil; that spirit brings
the magistrate into a great deal of trouble, to execute the law upon the sinners
and transgressors of the good spirit. That spirit, which leads people from all manner of
sin and evil, is one with the magistrate's power, and with the righteous law. For the law
was added because of transgression, and that spirit which leads out of transgression must
be one with that law which is against transgressors. So that spirit which leads out
of transgression is the good spirit of Christ, and is one with
the magistrates in the higher power, and owns it and them; but that spirit
which leads into transgression is the bad spirit, and is against the law, against
the magistrates, and makes them a great deal of troublesome work. The manifestation of
the good spirit is given to every man to profit from; and no man can profit in the things of God but by
the spirit of God which brings to deny all sin and evil. It is said of Israel, Nehem.9. “The Lord gave them
his good spirit to instruct them, yet they rebelled against it." If all people would mind this manifestation
of the spirit which God has given to instruct them, it would lead them to forsake all manner of sin and
evil, enmity, hatred, malice, unrighteousness and ungodliness, and to mortify it. Then in the spirit of
Christ they would have fellowship and unity, which is the bond of peace; then would love and peace,
which are the fruits of the good spirit, flow among all that are called Christians.

Here is a principal part of the current Peace Protest Movement's justification, the letter
from George Fox to King Charles.

A declaration from the harmless innocent people of God, called Quakers, against
all sedition, plotters, and fighters in the world; for removing the ground of jealousy
and suspicion from both magistrates and people in the kingdom concerning wars
and fightings.

Presented to the king the 21st day of the Eleventh month, 1660.
Our principle is, and our practices have always been to seek peace and ensue it;
to follow after righteousness and the knowledge of God;
seeking the good and welfare, and doing what tends to the peace of all.
We know that wars and fightings proceed from the lusts of men, (as James Chapter 4:1-3),
out of which lusts the Lord has redeemed us,
and so out of the occasion of war.
The occasion of war and war itself, arises from the lust,
(wherein envious men, who are lovers of themselves more than lovers of God,
lust, kill, and desire to have men's lives or estates).
All bloody principles and practices we, as to our own basics, do utterly deny,
with all outward wars, strife, and fighting with outward weapons for any end,
or under any pretence whatsoever: this is our testimony to the whole world.

And whereas if someone should object and say:

"But although you now say, that you cannot fight nor take up arms at all;
yet if the spirit move you, then you will change your principle,
you will sell your coat and buy a sword, and fight for the kingdom of Christ."
To this we answer,
Christ said to Peter, "Put up your sword in its place;"
though he had said before, he that had no sword might sell his coat and buy one,
(to the fulfilling of the law and the scripture), yet after,
when he had bid him put it up, he said,
"He that takes the sword shall perish with the sword."
And Christ said to Pilate, “do you not know that I can now pray to my Father,
and he shall presently give me more that twelve legions of angels?"
And this might satisfy Peter, after he had put up his sword,
when he said to him, "He that took it, should perish by it;"
which satisfies us. Matthew 26:52-53.
In the Revelations it is said, "He that kills with the sword shall perish with the sword;
and here is the faith and patience of the saints."
So Christ's kingdom is not of this world,
therefore his servants do not fight as he told Pilate, the magistrate who crucified him.
And did they not look upon Christ as a raiser of sedition?
And did not he pray,"Forgive them?"
But thus it is that we are numbered among transgressors,
and among fighters, that the scriptures might be fulfilled.
That the spirit of Christ, by which we are guided, is not changeable,
so as once to command us from a thing, as evil, and again to move unto it.
We certainly know and testify to the world,
that the spirit of Christ, which leads us into all truth,
will never move us to fight and war against any man with outward weapons,
neither for the kingdom of Christ nor for the kingdoms of this world.
First, because the kingdom of Christ, God will exalt, according to his promise,
and cause it to grow and flourish in righteousness,
"Not by might, nor by power, (of outward sword), but by my spirit, said the Lord"
Zechariah 4:6.
So those that use any weapon to fight for Christ,
or for the establishing of his kingdom or government,
their spirit, principle, and practice in that we deny.
Secondly,
We earnestly desire and wait,
that (by the word of God's power, and its effectual operation in the hearts of men),
the kingdoms of this world may become the kingdoms of the Lord, and of his Christ;
and that he may rule and reign in men by his spirit and truth;
that thereby all people, out of all different judgments and professions,
may be brought into love and unity with God, and one with another;
and that all may come to witness the prophet's words fulfilled,
who said, "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war
any more." Isaiah 2:4. Mich 4:3.
So we, whom the Lord has called into the obedience of his truth,
have denied wars and fightings, and cannot any more learn them.
This is a certain testimony unto all the world of the truth of our hearts in this particular,
that as God persuades every man's heart to believe, so they may receive it.
For we have not, as some others, gone about cunningly with devised fables,
nor have we ever denied in practice what we have professed in principle;
but in sincerity and truth, and by the word of God,
we have labored to be made manifest unto all men,
that both we and our ways might be witnessed in the hearts of all.
And whereas all manner of evil has been falsely spoken of us,
we hereby speak the plain truth of our hearts,
to take away the occasion of that offence,
that so we, being innocent, may not suffer for other men's offences,
nor be made a prey of by the wills of men for that of which we were never guilty;
but in the uprightness of our hearts we may,
under the power ordained of God for the punishment of evil doers,
and for the praise of them that do well,
live a peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For although we have always suffered, and do now more abundantly suffer,
yet we know it is for righteousness' sake:
"For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our consciences,
that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God,
we have had our conversation in the world." 2 Corinthians 1:2.
which for us is a witness for the convincing of our enemies.
For this we can say to all the world, we have wronged no man,
we have used no force nor violence against any man,
we have been found in no plots, nor guilty of sedition.
When we have been wronged we have not sought to revenge ourselves;
we have not made resistance against authority;
but wherein we could not obey for conscience sake,
we have suffered the most of any people in the nation.
We have been counted as sheep for the slaughter,
persecuted and despised, beaten, stoned, wounded,
stocked, whipped, imprisoned, haled out of the synagogues,
cast into dungeons and noisy prisons,
where many have died in bonds, shut up from our friends,
denied needful sustenance for many days,
together with other the like cruelties.
And the cause of all these our sufferings is not for any evil,
but for things relating to the worship of our God, and in obedience to his requirements.
For which cause we shall freely give up our bodies a sacrifice,
rather than disobey the Lord;
knowing, as the Lord has kept us innocent,
he will plead our cause when there is none in the earth to plead it.
So we, in obedience to his truth, do not love our lives unto death,
that we may do his will, and wrong no man in our generation,
but seek the good and peace of all men.
He who has commanded us, "that we shall not swear at all," Matthew 5:34.
has also commanded us, "that we shall not kill." Matthew 5:21.
So that we can neither kill men, nor swear for or against them.
This is both our principle and our practice, and has been from the beginning;
so that if we suffer, as suspected to take up arms or make war against any,
it is without any ground from us;
for it neither is, nor ever was in our hearts, since we owned the truth of God;
neither shall we ever do it,
because it is contrary to the spirit of Christ, his doctrine, and the practice of his apostles;
even contrary to him for whom we suffer all things and endure all things.
And although men come against us with clubs, staves,
drawn swords, pistols cocked, and beat, cut, and abuse us;
we never resisted them, but offered them our hair, backs, and cheeks.
It is not an honor to manhood or nobility to run upon harmless people,
who lift not a hand against them, with arms and weapons.
Therefore consider these things, you men of understanding;
for plotters, raisers of insurrections, tumultuous ones, and fighters,
running with swords, clubs, staves, and pistols, one against another;
we say, these are of the world, and have their foundation from this unrighteous world,
from the foundation of which the Lamb has been slain;
which lamb has redeemed us from this unrighteous world;
we are not of it, but are heirs of a world of which there is no end,
a kingdom where no corruptible thing enters.
Our weapons are spiritual, not carnal,
yet mighty through God to the pulling down of the strong holds of sin and satan,
who is the author of wars, fighting, murder, and plots.
Our swords are broken into plough shares,
and spears into pruning hooks, as prophesied of in Micah 4:3.
Therefore we cannot learn war any more,
neither rise up against nation or kingdom with outward weapons,
though you have numbered us among the transgressors and plotters.
The Lord knows our innocence in this,
and will plead our cause with all people upon earth at the day of their judgment,
when all men shall have a reward according to their works.
Therefore in love we warn you for your souls’ good,
not to wrong the innocent, nor the babes of Christ,
which he has in his hand, and tenders as the apple of his eye;
neither seek to destroy the heritage of God,
nor turn your swords backward upon such as the law was not made for, i.
e. the righteous;
but for the sinners and transgressors, to keep them down.
For those are not peacemakers nor lovers of enemies,
neither can they overcome evil with good,
who wrong them that are friends to you and all men,
and wish your good and the good of all people upon earth.
If you oppress us as they did the children of Israel in Egypt,
if you oppress us as they did when Christ was born,
and as they did the christians in the primitive times,
we can say, "The Lord forgive you;"
and leave the Lord to deal with you, and not revenge ourselves.
If you say as the council said to Peter and John,
"You must speak no more in that name,"
and if you serve us as they served the three children spoken of in Daniel,
God is the same as he ever was, that lives for ever and ever,
who has the innocent in his arms.
Oh friends! Offend not the Lord and his little ones, neither afflict his people;
but consider and be moderate.
Run not hastily into things, but mind and consider mercy, justice, and judgment;
that is the way for you to prosper and get the favor of the Lord.
Our meetings were stopped and broken up in the days of Oliver,
under pretence of plotting against him;
in the days of the Committee of Safety,
we were looked upon as plotters to bring in king Charles;
and now our peaceable meetings are termed seditious.
Oh! that men should lose their reason, and go contrary to their own consciences;
knowing that we have suffered all things, and have been accounted plotters all along,
though we have always declared against them both by word of mouth and printing,
and are clear from any such thing!
Though we have suffered all along,
because we would not take up carnal weapons to fight against any,
and are thus made a prey upon because we are the innocent lambs of Christ,
and cannot avenge ourselves!
These things are left upon your hearts to consider;
for we are out of all those things in the patience of the saints,
and we know as Christ said, "He that takes the sword shall perish with the sword."
Matthew 26:52 and Revelations 13:10.
This is given forth from the people called Quakers,
to satisfy the king and his council,
and all that have any jealousy concerning us,
that all occasion of suspicion may be taken away, and our innocence cleared.

Postscript-Though we are numbered among transgressors,

and have been given up to rude, merciless men,
by whom our meetings are broken up,
in which we edified one another in our holy faith,
and prayed together to the Lord that lives forever,
yet he is our pleader in this day.
The Lord said, "They that feared his name spoke often together,"
as in Malachi; which were as his jewels.
For this cause, and no evil doing, are we cast into holes, dungeons,
houses of correction, prisons, (sparing neither old nor young, men nor women),
and made a prey of in the sight of all nations, under pretence of being seditious,
so that all rude people run upon us to take possession;
for which we say, the Lord forgive them that have done thus to us;
who does and will enable us to suffer;
and never shall we lift up hand against any man that does thus use us;
but that the Lord may have mercy upon them, that they may consider what they have done.
For how is it possible for them to requite us for the wrong they have done to us?
Who to all nations have sounded us abroad as seditious or plotters,
who were never plotters against any power or man upon the earth,
since we knew the life and power of Jesus Christ manifested in us,
who has redeemed us from the world and all works of darkness, and plotters therein,
by which we know the election before the world began.
So we say, the Lord have mercy upon our enemies,
and forgive them for what they have done unto us.
Oh! do as you would be done by; do unto all men as you would have them do unto you;
for this is but the law and the prophets.
All plots, insurrections, and riotous meetings, we deny,
knowing them to be of the devil, the murderer;
which we in Christ, who was before they were, triumph over.
And all wars and fightings with carnal weapons we deny, who have the sword of the spirit;
and all that wrong us, we leave to the Lord.
This is to clear our innocence from that aspersion cast upon us, "that we are seditious
or plotters."

Added in the reprinting.

Courteous reader, this was our testimony above twenty years ago, and since then we have
not been found acting contrary to it, nor ever shall; for the truth that is our guide
is unchangeable. This is now reprinted to the men of this age, many of whom were
then children, and does stand as our certain testimony against all plotting and fighting
with carnal weapons. And if any, by departing from the truth, should do so, this is
our testimony in the truth against them, and will stand over them, and the truth will be
clear of them.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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You Must Eat My Flesh and Drink My Blood

'Our Daily Bread'
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John 6:27-63 Begin

Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes
and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures
unto life eternal;
the Son of Man will give (furnish) you that,
for God the Father has authorized and certified Him and put His seal of endorsement
upon Him.
They then said, What are we to do, that we may be working the works of God?
Jesus replied, This is the work (service) that God asks of you: that you believe in the
One Whom He has sent.

And God has also sent Christ to us as the Light within each of us. And he as given us all
the Holy Spirit;
you do not need not any man to teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all
things, and is truth.
To be a true believer, we must listen to Christ within us and receive Him as the Son of
God teaching us.
We receive him by being obedient to what we hear him tell us to do, (commands to
repent),
and to what he shows us by his Light that is our condition and how we need to improve.
We hear his Living Word and see our condition by his Light. Christ is the Word and the
Light.

Therefore they said to Him, What sign (miracle, wonder work) will You perform then, so that we may see
it and believe and rely on and adhere to You?
What work have You? Our forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as the Scripture says, He gave
them bread out of heaven to eat.
Jesus then said to them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Moses did not give you the
Bread from heaven,
but it is My Father Who gives you the true heavenly Bread.
For the Bread of God is He Who comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world.

Then they said to Him, Lord, give us this bread always (all the time)!
Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry,
and he who believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me will never thirst
any more (at any time).
But I told you, although you have seen Me, still you do not believe and trust and have faith.
All whom My Father gives (entrusts) to Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to
Me I will most certainly not cast out.

And to come to him is to go to your closet, go over the Lord's prayer, and then get quiet to
listen to him.
Do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their
many words.
Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Mat 6:7-8.
For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, ...
[Listens to His Voice]
He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation upon the rock;
securely.. Luke 6:47-48
if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is
in Jesus. Eph 4:21
Consider carefully what you hear. With the measure you use, it will be measured to you
—and even more. Mark 4:24-5

For I have come down from heaven not to do My own will and purpose but to do the will
and purpose of Him Who sent Me.
And this is the will of Him Who sent Me, that I should not lose any of all that He has
given Me,
but that I should give new life and raise up at the last day.
For this is My Father's will and His purpose,
that everyone who sees the Son and believes, cleaves to, trusts in, and relies on
Him should have eternal life,
and I will raise him up at the last day.
To see the son, we spend time with Him until his blood purifies us.

Now the Jews murmured and found fault with and grumbled about Jesus because He said,
I am the Bread that came down from heaven.
They kept asking, Is not this Jesus, the Son of Joseph, Whose father and mother we
know? How then can He say, I have come down from heaven?
So Jesus answered them, Stop grumbling and saying things against Me to one another.
No one is able to come to Me unless the Father Who sent Me attracts and draws him
and gives him the desire to come to Me,
and I will raise him up at the last day.
It is written in the Prophets, 'And they shall all be taught of God.'
(God will personally teach each of us, now or after death. To learn in this life
is easier, and the result is better.)
Everyone who has listened to and learned from the Father comes to Me.
Which does not imply that anyone has seen the Father except He Who comes from God;
He has seen the Father.
I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, he who believes in Me has (now possesses) eternal life.
I am the Bread of Life.
Your forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
This is the Bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and never die.
I am this Living Bread that came down from heaven.
If anyone eats of this Bread, he will live forever; and also the Bread that I shall give for
the life of the world is My flesh (body).

He not only speaking to the Jews 2000 years ago, but to us too. His bread still comes
down from heaven.
His words that we hear him speak are bread. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and
they are life. John 6:63
Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth
of God. Mat4:4
Give us this day our daily bread - the words that Jesus speaks to us.

Then the Jews angrily contended with one another, saying, How is He able to give us His flesh to eat?
And Jesus said to them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you,
you cannot have any life in you unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink
His blood.
He who feeds on My flesh and drinks My blood has (possesses now) eternal life, and I
will raise him up on the last day.
For My flesh is true and genuine food, and My blood is true and genuine drink.
He who feeds on My flesh and drinks My blood dwells continually in
Me, and I in him.

God is Word and Spirit. We must feed on his words: to listen; remember; and most
important - obey.
 And we must drink in his Spirit of gentleness, kindness, peace, and love by which the
words are given to us.
For as he said: The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
And when we obey his spoken words with Spirit, we dwell in him and
he dwells in us.

Just as the living Father sent Me and I live by (through, because of) the Father,
even so whoever continues to feed on Me shall live through and
because of Me.
(We lose our life to find Life. As Paul said: It is no longer I that live, but Christ
within me.)
This is the Bread that came down from heaven.
It is not like the manna which our forefathers ate, and yet died;
he who takes this Bread for his food shall live forever.

He said these things in a synagogue while He was teaching at Capernaum.

When His disciples heard this, many of them said, This is a hard and difficult and strange saying
(an offensive and unbearable message). Who can stand to hear it?
But Jesus, knowing within Himself that His disciples were complaining and protesting and grumbling
about it, said to them:
Is this a stumbling block and an offense to you?
What then if you should see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?
It is the Spirit Who gives life; the flesh conveys no benefit whatever.
The words (truths) that I have been speaking to you are spirit and life.
John 6:27-63 End

Perhaps you can see how the ritual of "communion" has been substituted for the real communion -
a dialogue between you and Christ;
a dialogue of words from Him that you retain, you eat, so that his word abides in you, and then controls
you. More words, more control.
(We are supposed to remember Christ every time we eat and drink, until his return, not grape juice
and wafers in a sect service.)
And remember, Christ told us to: Stop toiling and doing and producing for the
food that perishes and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures
unto life eternal.
All of the supposed sacraments are man's invention of a easy, ritualized, self-performed salvation that
could hardly be described as the narrow gate,
to which we must strive to enter, and which few will find for many embrace the broad, easy way that leads
to destruction.
To strive is to exert much effort or energy; few would argue that being wet with water, or eating bread
and drinking wine,
is to labor with much effort or energy. Rather it forms a fantasy salvation of no effort, just ritual -
I would include saying the "sinner's prayer" (say the magic words) to be just another superstitious
invention of self-appointed evangelists,
who are anxious to get credit for their imagined "saving" of souls.

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them,
I will show you what he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid
a foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could
not shake or move it,
because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48

He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to me, listen to My words (not
the Bible), and do them.
To do them, is to obey; and when you obey them, you have received Christ by recognition and obedience.
From this sure foundation he builds true faith and hope which
purifies you.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23

These above two teachings of Jesus are the core message of this web site:
1) Come to him, Listen to his words, do the words he gives you - obey his commands.
2) If you Love Jesus, you will obey him. The Father then loves you, and he and Jesus come to you
and make their home with you;
and their home is the Kingdom of God within you.

Write what you hear down is a notebook; review your commands periodically so you don't forget one,
and keep repenting. Rev 3:2-3
Words that teach you and command you, which if you continue to
feed upon and obey,
he lives through you, and he returns in full glory to you.

To his disciples he said: I will not leave you as orphans..I will come back to you. [while the
disciples were on earth]
Just a little while now and the world will not see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will
live also.
At that time, when that day comes, you will know that I am in My Father and you are in me, and I
am in you.
This is the return of Christ. The world does not see it. He returns with the Father. They
become one with us.
It is a personal experience. This is not the resurrection. He is talking about becoming one with
the disciples.
The person who has My commands and keeps them is who loves me, and whoever loves me will
be loved by My Father.
And I will love him and will show (reveal, manifest) Myself to him;
I will let myself be clearly seen by him and make myself real to him.
Judas said to him, (not Iscariot), Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us, and not
unto the world?
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loves me, he will obey my teaching:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our home with
him. John 14:18-23
I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall be
My people. 2 Cor 5:16

This is the return of Christ in his glory with the Father. They become one
with us.
It is a personal experience, to see Christ and become one with Christ and the Father. The world does
not see Him.
Other than the fruit of the Spirit, the world does not see Christ; for such a person's life in
hidden in Christ Jesus.
This is the fabled return of Christ, and their home is the glorious Kingdom of
Heaven established in your heart.
This is union with God in the Kingdom of Heaven.

When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. Everyone with this hope
purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3

For unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions,
and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,
while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior,
Jesus Christ. Tit 2:11-13

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you
the kingdom. Luke 12:32

So, seek, listen, obey...seek, listen, obey... Keep doing this, and Christ will lead you through
repentance purity, truth and the Kingdom.
He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him! Heb.11:6
(Diligence is defined as continually attending to and striving to achieve a goal;
laborious; persevering.)

Jesus said, Therefore consider carefully how you listen.

Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from
him. Luke 8:18

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence? (also on the side bar)

Jesus said, My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27
At judgment, Jesus said he would reject many who called him Lord and had even performed miracles
in his name
by telling them plainly: 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! Mat 7:21-23
But, if we listen to him, obey him, abide in him, and are purified by him; we don't sin and he knows us.
If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set
you free. John 8:31-32
So if the Son liberates you, then you are really and unquestionably free. John 8:36
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go
to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice. John 18:37

He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; ( love, peace, joy,
patience, gentleness, kindness, etc. Gal 5:22-23)
for without Me you can do nothing. John 15:5. Works without God's Love in us count
for nothing. 1 Cor 13:3
To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith expressing itself
through love. Gal 5:6
Abiding is the key to success as a Christian. Studying the Bible only tells us what we
must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words
must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living word, (not read
the Bible).

This is how to obtain the Kingdom of God while on earth!

He, with his Kingdom to give you Awaits You to Come!

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more listening for God's teaching
and receiving his changing, purifying grace.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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The Second Appearance of Jesus with his Kingdom

is a Personal Experience!

Even so it is that Christ,

having been offered to take upon Himself
and bear as a burden the sins of many once and once for all,
will appear a second time,
not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin,
but to bring to full salvation those who are waiting for
and expecting Him.
Heb 9:28

When he appears, we shall be like him,

for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him
purifies himself, just as he is pure.
1 John 3:2-3

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A physical return of Christ with its complete destruction of the world, so widely speculated on, is not
true. Rather, Christ appears a second time, the Revelation (revealing) of Christ, in the hearts of
individual believers, who have prepared the way for him to be revealed in them; he, who has been
hidden within, is revealed. The appearance of Christ, his revelation within you, and entering the Kingdom
of Heaven is the completion of salvation. Thousands have already experienced Christ's second
appearance as revealed within as documented in scripture and in the writings of George Fox and
several other 17th Century Quakers. First lets look at scriptures.

Jesus is recorded six times saying (click here to see) that before death
some then with him would see him a second time (coming on the clouds)
and that all the end times prophesies would be fulfilled before that
generation, 2000 years ago, would pass away.

He returned 2000 years ago, 350 years ago, and any other time his true believers prepare the way for him
in their hearts. He will return many more times. For the Kingdom of God is within and around us - it is
a different dimension to be lived in, a spiritual dimension to be entered
through personal tribulations while still physically on the earth; and then to dwell there forever. But,
unless you enter the Kingdom of Heaven in this life, you will never have any inheritance in the Kingdom
of Christ or God.

The Apostle Paul helps us understand the Kingdom of God within and among us, writing in the Bible's
book of Acts: God .. is not far from each one of us, for in him we live and move and have
our being, (Acts 17:27-28) - but we are not aware of this, because we are in a lower physical dimension.
The physical dimension shares the same space as the higher spiritual dimensions; one God and Father of
all, who is over all and through all and in all. Eph 4:6. To enter the Kingdom of God within and
around us, is to be dramatically translated to the spiritual dimension of consciousness and sight, in
union with Christ and God, but walking on earth by the light of God. The world passes away from our
sight when the Kingdom is entered.

The prophesies were fulfilled 2000 years ago, and have been and will be fulfilled many more times,
because his return with his Kingdom is to individual believers who have taken up their cross and
crucified their lusts and affection, (Gal 5:24), purifying themselves, (1 John 3:2-3); destroying
their sinful natures through the aid of the Spirit of God. Rom 8:13.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works [sin]
of the devil. 1 John 3:8
But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. Gal 6:14
This is done through tribulation to those individuals.
Please read this section entirely, before concluding it can't be true -you will be glad you did!

Bible scriptures, always so conveniently overlooked by the prophets of scriptural speculations, clearly
show that the return of Jesus as a physical event that can be seen or noticed is not correct, much less be
the cataclysmic world's end in wars.

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with
visible display,
Nor will people say, Look! Here ! or, See, there! For behold,
the kingdom of God is within you and among you . Luke 17:20-21

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying:

Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their
God. Rev 21:3

When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone with this hope purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
Only those who are like him, pure, will see him appear.
The deficit sects teach that you don't have to be pure, you don't have to be perfect, you don't have to be holy.
If, as they incorrectly teach, he came back to the whole world, none of them would see him, because they
are not pure.
But if one has the hope of purity and seeing their savior, they will purify their hearts, by faith and grace,
to see God appear within their hearts.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8
He appears to the purified heart of a believer - he is seen. This is his second coming - to the purified heart.
To be purified, you must come to him, listen for him, hear him, and obey him - repetitively, over time.
You are purified by faith in Jesus - faith in his convictions being true, and faith enough to obey
his commands.

He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Heb 9:28.
Notice he appears to bring salvation. But he doesn't bring salvation to the whole world - only to
those waiting for him.
Neither is his appearance to the whole world, only to those who are waiting for him, and who love
him by obeying him.
Salvation occurrs when He appears within to bring salvation to those who have waited, listened, heard,
and obeyed him - those who love him.

Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and
not to the world?"
Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come
to him and make our home with him.
He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has
my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my
Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him," John 14:20-23.
So he only appears to those who have heard him speak commands to them, and have obeyed him.
This mystery .. is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8. Without a pure heart, you will never see God.
He appears to the purified heart of a believer - he is seen. This is his second appearance - this time to
the purified in heart.
For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness,"made his light shine in our hearts to give us
the light of the knowledge
of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2 Cor 4:6. Christ appears in your heart, which gives you
knowledge of the glory of God.
The day star rises in your hearts. 2 Peter 1:19.

When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Col 3:4
When Christ appears in you, bringing his kingdom, you will appear there also - in the kingdom within you
- in glory.
How are you going to appear in glory, unless it is inside of your heart, to your mind's eye? Hidden from
the world.
Other than the fruit of the Spirit, the world does not see Christ; for such a person's life in hidden in
Christ Jesus. Col 3:3

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display,
Nor will people say, Look! Here ! or, See, there!
For behold,the kingdom of God is within you and among you. Luke 17:20-21
The kingdom and Christ are within you, waiting to be revealed at the time grace brings salvation.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions,
and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,
while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior,
Jesus Christ.
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works.Tit 2:11-14

To his disciples he said: I will not leave you as orphans..I will come back to you.
Just a little while now and the world will not see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you
will live also.
At that time, when that day comes, you will know that I am in My Father and you are in me, and I
am in you.
I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also. John 14:18-20
This is the return of Christ. The world does not see it. He returns with the Father. They become
one with us - union.
It is a personal experience. This is not the resurrection. He is talking about becoming one with
the disciples.
I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you will keep and protect them from evil.
John 17:15
So, Jesus wants to keep us in the world, but to protect us from evil, while in the world- to be sanctified.
Father, I desire that they also whom you have entrusted to me may be with me where I am,
so they may see my glory, which you have given me - your love gift to me - for you loved me before
the foundation of the world. John 17:24
We are physically still in the world, but our consciousness and sight translate to the Kingdom of heaven,
a higher dimension.
God is in this same higher dimension; in him we live and move and have our being; who is over all,
in all, and through all.
And there we have fellowship with the Father and the Son.
So with obedience to the cross, we can enter pardise while alive on earth, to be there forever, even after
the second death.

He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. John 12:25-26
To hate your life, to lose your life, to follow Christ - is to crucify the sinful nature, to become pure, to
enter the Kingdom.

Neither for these alone do I pray - it is not for their sake only that I make this request -
but also for all those who will ever come to believe in (trust, cling to, rely on) me
through their word and teaching; John 17:20.
All these verses in this prayer by Jesus to the Father can apply to us too, because we are reading
the disciples' words and teachings. But we have to pick up our cross daily and follow him as
his disciple to become purified.

The second appearance of Jesus, union with Jesus, being translated into the Kingdom of God, and
salvation - all occur simultaneously.
But only to those who have purified their hearts by faith and grace on the inward cross of self-denial
to prepare the way of the Lord.

Both John the Baptist and Jesus were telling people that the Kingdom of God was very near, 2000
years ago:
John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven
is near. Mat 3:1-2
From that time Jesus began to preach, crying out, Repent for the kingdom of heaven is a near. Mat 4:17
Jesus was not lying when he said, The time has come, the Kingdom of Heaven is near! Mat 3:2,
4:17,10:7 Mark 1:15.
There are one hundred and forty references to the Kingdom of Heaven in the New Testament alone (click
to see),
and it was the dominant subject of Jesus' parables. He said it was near then and available then.

2000 years ago, Jesus said this:

But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders (hypocrites)! For you shut the kingdom of heaven
in men's faces;
 for you neither enter yourselves, nor do you allow those who are about to go in to do so.
Mat 23:13

Notice 2000 years ago he is seriously criticizing the Pharisees, who would not enter the
Kingdom then,
nor would they allow those who were about to enter the Kingdom of Heaven then to enter.
So the Kingdom of Heaven was available then, 2000 years ago;
but like today's ministers, the Pharisees were blocking the way, clueless as to how to enter.
He is clearly not talking about physical death; he is criticizing live people for not entering while alive
and blocking others from entering.

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the
kingdom of God ahead of you.
For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him,
but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and
believe him. Mat 21:31-2

and Jesus said, From the days of John the Baptist until now,
the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. Mat 11:12

The two above quotations of Jesus show that the Kingdom of Heaven was being entered then,
2000 years ago.
So there is no waiting around for a physical Kingdom necessary. The tax collectors, prostitutes, (i.
e. Matthew and Mary Magdalene),
and forceful men were in the process of entering the Kingdom then, repenting, by taking to heart
the message of John the Baptist:
Repent (think differently; change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct), for
the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 3:2

The Jews had been waiting for many years for the Kingdom to arrive; they thought it was going to be
a physical Kingdom,
reestablishing the physical glory of Israel's Kingdoms of David and Solomon.
But Jesus is telling them they should be entering the Kingdom then because tax collectors, prostitutes,
and forceful men
were already entering then by repenting; so it is not a physical Kingdom that we can see.
It is a spiritual dimension that is not visible nor does it come with visible or with outward signs - but it
is priceless.
Confused, the Pharisees asked when this Kingdom, which they were expecting, was to come; Jesus said:

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with
visible display,
Nor will people say, Look! Here! or, See there! (because it will not be visible to the world)
For behold, the kingdom of God is within you and among you. Luke 17:20-21

So it won't be noticeable to anyone around a purified believer when Christ returns to establish his
Kingdom in that believer's heart,
for their life in Christ is hidden. Two thousand years ago everyone was sitting around waiting for
the Messiah to establish a physical kingdom;
two thousand years later, everyone is still sitting around waiting on Jesus to return and establish a
physical kingdom.

One hundred generations of Christendom have sat, waiting on a physical return,

thereby missing the possibility of preparing for his personal appearance in them.
This is a major deception with disastrous consequences to those deceived.
Prize your time; use it wisely, for it is finite. But seek ye first the Kingdom of God and
His righteousness. Mat 6:33

The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom, not of this world, within us and around us. Jesus said,
My Kingdom is not of this world.
Today, Jesus would describe his Kingdom as a different dimension that we enter, yet physically we are
still here on earth;
because it is within us and around us. And the Kingdom is the evidence and prize of
salvation's completion.
Jesus even said the reason he came to earth was to preach the good news of the Kingdom (which was
near then):
"I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is
why I was sent." Luke 4:43.
He also told us to make the attainment of the Kingdom of Heaven our first priority in life:
But seek first his kingdom, which does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display,
which is within you and among you.

When we die to self, through repentance to purity, Jesus and the Father returns to us with his
glorious Kingdom. So by the grace of God, we should personally be denying ungodliness and
worldly lusts, to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world, looking for
that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,
who will redeem us from all iniquity and purify us, making us a peculiar people zealous for good works.
Titus 2:11-13. Denying ungodliness and wordily lusts is repentance. This site shows you how to access
the grace of God which leads to repentance, which leads to the completion of salvation and the Kingdom;
to have fellowship with Jesus and the Father; to live in their presence, to be led by the Spirit of God; and
to live in paradise - while on earth .

Here are two excerpt from George Fox's Journal: (Click to see who Fox was.)

"While I was in prison here, the Baptists and fifth-monarchy-men prophesied, that this year Christ
would come, and reign upon earth a thousand years. And they looked upon this reign to be outward:
when he had come inwardly in the hearts of his people, to reign and rule; these
"believers" would not receive him in their hearts. So they failed in their prophecy and expectation, and
did not have the possession of him. But Christ has come, and does dwell and reign in the hearts
of his people. Thousands, at the door of whose hearts he has been knocking, have
opened to him; and he has come in, and does sup with them, and they with him; the
heavenly supper with the heavenly and spiritual man. So many of these Baptists and
monarchy-people became the greatest enemies to the followers of Christ, but he reigns in the hearts of
his saints over all their envy."(this was written in 1656)

True religion is the true rule and right way of serving God. And religion is a pure stream of
righteousness flowing from the image of God, and is the life and power of God planted in the heart and
mind by the law of life. This brings the soul, mind, spirit, and body to be conformable to
God, the Father of spirits, and to Christ; so that they come to have fellowship with
the Father and the Son, and with all his holy angels and saints.

And from the writings of another early Quaker, William Dewsbury:

“Thus through the righteous law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus," he says, "I was and am made free
from the body of sin and death; and through these great tribulations, my garments are washed and
made white in the blood of the Lamb, who has led me into the new Jerusalem, where no one enters
that works abomination or speaks a lie, but those whose name is written in the Lamb's book of life. Here
my soul now feeds upon the tree of life, which I had so long hungered and thirsted after, that stands in
the paradise of God. Here there is no more curse nor night; but the Lord God and the Lamb are my light
and life forever and ever! And I witness that I am regenerated and born again of the immortal seed,
and having partaken of the first resurrection, over such the second death has no power." (written in 1655)

Dewsbury clearly speaks above of: 1) having gone through great tribulations, 2) Christ
being resurrected in him, 3) being translated into the Kingdom of God, 4) being in
New Jerusalem, and 5) feeding from the tree of life that stands in the paradise of God. Thus
all the promises of the scriptures he witnessed as having been fulfilled.

Regarding his coming to establish his Kingdom, Jesus said as Matthew reports:

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works. Matt 16:27

Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death
till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. Matt. 16:28

and Mark reports the same thing Jesus said regarding his coming to establish
his Kingdom:

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation;
of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with
the holy angels. Mark 8:38

And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here,
which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God
come with power. Mark 9:1
(Mark 9:1 is the next verse after Mark 8:38)

and Luke reports the same thing Jesus said regarding his coming to establish
his Kingdom:

For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed,
when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the
holy angels. Luke 9:26

But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of
death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27

and in the Old Testament even Daniel reports the same:

 I saw in the night visions, and behold, on the clouds of the heavens came One like a Son of man, and
He came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before Him. Dan 7:13

(Heaven appears to us in our soul's eye as a place of great glory existing in a cloud or a mist).

2000 years ago Christ said some would not die until they saw Him come
in His kingdom.

We know there are not people 2000 years old walking around; so for some, Christ has already come
with His kingdom.
His resurrection is not the return, because after he was resurrected, his disciples asked, was the Kingdom
to be established then?
and he said, "it is not for you to know the time or dates," and then rose to heaven, leaving them. Acts 1:6-9.
Neither does the record of how he appeared to the disciples when resurrected match with the prophecies:

they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. Mat 16:28
till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. Mark 9:1
he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. Luke 9:26
Nor does his resurrection match Matthew, Mark, and Luke's prophecies to be fulfilled before that
generation passed away.

But we know his coming has already occurred for some that were standing there
with him 2000 years ago.
One of those standing with him who saw his glorious return with his Kingdom was his disciple John,
who later wrote in the Book of Revelations:
Just like Jesus told all his disciples: I will not leave you as orphans..I will come back to you.
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience
of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9
The some are those who repented to prepare for the Kingdom.
Unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28
(He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.)

Christ's return, union, the Kingdom, and the completion of salvation

are simultaneous.
Some of those standing with Him then, saw Christ's return before they died; they had repented
and prepared for Him.

All of those who do not repent, and prepare their hearts for his return, see him return at their death.
Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:
[the Jews and Romans]
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:7
2000 years ago, to the Jewish High Priest and the Pharisees at his trial, Jesus said..
you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on
the clouds of heaven. Mark 14:62
Those not purified, to see Jesus' return before death, see him as they die, as all peoples, all
nations, all generations do.
This is not a particular generation. Each generation has thought they were the special one
to see a physical return.

This will not be a pleasant experience, particularly for those who thought that He would
know them.
At judgment, Jesus said he would reject many who called him Lord and had even performed miracles
in his name
by telling them plainly: 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers [they
still sin]! Mat 7:21-23
Until we hear his voice, obey his voice, abide in his Him, and are purified by him; we still sin and
he doesn't know us.
The foolish virgins without oil in their lamps, said: Lord, Lord, open to us. (without abiding in Him,
his Light and Living Word, voice)
Replying, Jesus said: Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Without abiding in Him,
he doesn't know us.
Jesus knows listeners: My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they
follow Me. John 10:27
If you abide in My word, [Voice of the Lord], you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and
the truth will set you free. John 8:31-32
I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34
You cannot continue to be a slave to sin and serve God, or even expect his approval. Rom 8:8

See My Sheep Know My Voice for more. Also True Grace vs. False Grace, and The Missing Cross.
or See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God through repentance, which leads to Christ's
return with his Kingdom.

Jesus is recorded six times saying (click here to see) that before death
some then with him would see his coming and that all the end
times prophesies would be fulfilled before that generation, 2000 years
ago, would pass away.

We have the Apostles testimony, who said they were already in the Kingdom, with
Jesus's having appeared in them with him Kingdom, then:

Paul said: Who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into
the kingdom of his dear Son. Col 1:13
(so Paul and others, to whom he wrote, were already translated, by the rapture, into the Kingdom of
Christ)

John said: I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the
kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9
(John had been in tribulation, and was in the Kingdom. See all the scriptures showing tribulation
happens to anyone determined to lead a godly life in Christ Jesus.)

Fox and his Quakers testified that his coming has occurred in thousands
of them 350 years ago.

And Jesus said prostitutes, tax collectors, and forceful men were entering
the Kingdom then, 2000 years ago.

So we have Jesus' statements, Paul and John's testimony of being in

the kingdom, and the Quaker's testimony.

So it has occurred already for some and will occur for another, and will
occur for another,... and will occur for another.

Below are some excerpts from George Fox's Journal and letters describing his personal experience of
the end of the world, and his entering the Kingdom: (Click to see who Fox was.)

Now I came up in spirit, through the flaming sword, into the paradise of God. All things
were new, 2 Cor 5:17, and all the creation gave another smell unto me than before, beyond what words
can utter. I knew nothing but pureness, innocence, and righteousness, being renewed up into
the image of God by Christ Jesus; so that I came up to the state of Adam, which
he was in before he fell. The creation was open to me; and it was showed me how all things had their
names given them, according to their nature and virtue. ... But I was immediately taken up in spirit, to
see into another or more steadfast state than Adam's in innocence, even into a state in
Christ Jesus, that should never fall. And the Lord showed me, that such as
were faithful to him, in the power and light of Christ, should come up
into that state in which Adam was before he fell; in which the admirable works of
the creation, and the virtues of that may be known, through the openings of that divine word of wisdom
and power by which they were made.

So [God] drove out the man [Adam and Eve out of paradise, the Garden of Eden]; and He placed at the east of the Garden of Eden
the cherubim
and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep and guard the way to the tree of life. Gen 3:24

I saw that none could read John's [Revelation] words correctly, and with a
true understanding of them, but in and with the same divine spirit by
which John spoke them; and by his burning, shining light which is sent
from God. For by that spirit their crooked natures might be made straight, their rough natures
smooth, and the man of greed and man of violence in them might be cast out; and those that
had been hypocrites might come to bring forth fruits suitable for repentance, and their mountain of
sin and earthliness might be leveled, and their valley filled in them, that there might be
a smooth, level way prepared for the Lord in them; and then the least in the kingdom
is greater than John. But all must first know the voice crying in the wilderness in their hearts,
which through transgression has become as a wilderness.

I saw also the mountains burning up, and the rubbish, and the rough,
and crooked ways and places made smooth and plain, that the Lord might come
into his tabernacle. These things are to be found in man's heart; but to speak of
these things being within, seemed strange to the rough, crooked, and mountainous ones. Yet the Lord
said, ‘Oh earth, hear the word of the Lord!'

Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low;
and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth. Luke 3:5

Do not yield to the lust of the eye or lust of the flesh; for the pride of life stands in the lust which keeps
out the love of the Father; and upon pride his judgments and wrath remain, where the love of the
world is sought after, and a crown that is mortal is sought. In this ground the evil enters, which is
cursed; which brings forth briers and thorns, where death reigns, and tribulation and anguish
are upon every soul, and the Egyptian tongue is heard; all which by the light is condemned. There
 is the world, which must be removed. By the light the world is seen, and by the power
the world is removed, and out of its place the world is shaken; to which the
thunders utter their voices, before the mysteries of God are opened, and Jesus revealed. Therefore
all of you, whose minds are turned to this light, wait upon the Lord Jesus for the crown that is immortal,
and that fades not away.

From Letter 25
And you that love your soul, love the light, to wait for Christ, the Savior of your soul;
and you that hear the word, wait in the light, which comes from the word, which leads up to the word
which was in the beginning,
which breaks the world to pieces that lies in wickedness,
and burns it as with a fire; and divides asunder the precious from the vile.

From Letter 33
And if any be moved (who are turned to the light) with the power which comes from him,
to any service for the Lord, to it be obedient; and you will see Christ with you to the end
of the world.

From Letter 51
The cross is to the carnal part, which is the ground of images, the ground of the seducers, and the ground
of the false prophet and antichrist; the cross is to that ground, to the root and life of it. This being
minded, which is pure and eternal, it makes a separation from all other lovers, and brings to God, and
the ground of evil thoughts comes to be opened, and the cross is to that ground;
which cross overturns the world in the heart. Which cross must be taken up by
all who follow Jesus Christ out of the world which has an end, into the
world which is without end; and all the evil things of the world must be denied. For 'who
loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him'; but where the world is
standing, the cross is not lived in. But dwelling in the cross to the world, here the love of God
is shed abroad in the heart, and the way is opened into the inheritance which fades not away; where
nothing shall enter which is defiled.

Francis Howgill has a series of excellent writings on this site, explaining how the Day of the
Lord occurs to individuals who have prepared their hearts through submission to the Spirit of God.

Many More Scriptures

Now, let's look at the many Bible's statements regarding the timing of Jesus's return. When you look at
the below verses, there are only three explanations possible:

1. Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, and James were great exaggerators (obviously this is not true),

2. the translators of the Bible got it all wrong (not possible, too many translations, too many places to be
all wrong together),

3. the timing of Jesus's return really was soon for them, the early Church; it was soon then, and
soon now - of necessity, a personal experience, which occurs in a believer whenever he or she
has been purified by mortifying the deeds of the body through the aid of the Holy Spirit.

Consider the following scriptural quotes:

● The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon
take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,who testifies to everything he
saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the words
of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because
the time is near. (2000 years ago). Rev 1:1-3

● Thy Kingdom come: Jesus tells us when we pray, to pray the Lord's prayer, which includes "thy
Kingdom come." This prayer was the only prayer he taught us. If the Kingdom was only to occur
thousands of years after people who were instructed to pray for it to occur, Jesus would either be not
too bright, or guilty of a cruel hoax, which of course he is neither. Think about it.

● And the world passes away and disappears, and with it the forbidden cravings
(the passionate desires, the lust) of it; but he who does the will of God and carries out His purposes in
his life abides (remains) forever. 1 John 2:17. So the world with its lusts and passions disappear
together, crucified by the aid of the Spirit. After we are purified, Christ returns to establish his
Kingdom within us, and the world as we know it disappears. We enter a different dimension - paradise
or the Kingdom of Heaven.

● But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a
great noise,
and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it
will be burned up.
Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy
 conduct and godliness,
looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God,
because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt
with fervent heat? 2 Pet 3:10-12
(Peter here is saying: it is coming soon; be obedient; be holy in conduct; be godly to get ready. This is
not 2000 years later.
As the eyes of Adam and Eve opened to this dimension, dropping them out of paradise, this is the eyes
being closed as one is being restored. As a purified Christian goes back into paradise, this
dimension disappears in a roar as though the heavens and elements melt in burning; it is like a
tent stretched over them dissolves. Think about it. How else could being transformed into
another dimension be described 2000 years ago?
Now notice, not only the earth burns up, but the works. This is man's judgment, and a purified
Christian eagerly goes into this burning light, the consuming fire, because his works were prompted by
the Holy Spirit, and will be preserved. But on the normal death of an unpurified man, he hates the light
and all his works are burned up. And this coming, this judgment, this end of the earth, this melting of
the heavens - was coming - so 2000 years ago they were told by Peter to look for and hasten that day.)

● old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. 2 Cor 5:17

● For this world in its present form is passing away. 1 Cor 7:31

● But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Gal 6:14

● Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you
always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Mat 28:20. This statement makes no sense,
unless you realize the end of the world is a personal experience - as it was for the disciples - they are not
still alive on the earth - yet they saw the end of the world.

● And now, little children, abide (live, remain permanently) in Him, so that when He is made visible,
we may have and enjoy perfect confidence (boldness, assurance) and not be ashamed and shrink
from Him at His coming. 1 John 2:28
This is John speaking 2000 years ago telling a people then that his coming was imminent.

● Peter was explaining the flames from heaven that came down upon them as, "But this is that which
was spoken by the prophet Joel; 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, said God, I will pour out of
my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall
see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:'" Acts 2:16-17
This was Pentecost. The beginning of the last days, or the end of the ages. So, the end
times began with Pentecost, 2000 years ago.

● Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon
whom the ends of the ages have come. 1 Cor. 10:11. The end of the ages had already begun 2000
years ago, and continues today.

● But the end and culmination of all things has now come near; keep sound minded and
self-restrained and alert therefore for prayer. 1 Pet 4:7

● Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. Mat 6:33. If the Kingdom has not always
been available, why would Jesus tell us to make our first priority to seek the Kingdom, assuring us that if
we did, God would provide our physical needs? We are supposed to ignore the pursuit of food and
clothing so that we can dedicate ourselves to seeking the Kingdom of God; every generation for the
last 2000 years has had the same instruction. Again, this command makes no sense if the Kingdom of God
is only coming to a generation thousands of years after he gives the command to people. Jesus is
neither guilty of cruelty, or stupid, for telling every generation to make this their first priority -
because every generation has had and will have the opportunity to enter the Kingdom of God is within
you and among you, and he said some would see it before they died.

● Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book. Rev 22:7.
Jesus speaking.

● And he told me, Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book and make no secret of them, for
the time when things are brought to a crisis and the period of their fulfillment is near.
Rev 22:10. Angel speaking.

● Behold, I am coming soon, and I shall bring My wages and rewards with Me, to repay and render to
each one just what his own actions and his own work merit. Rev. 22:12. Jesus speaking.

● The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of
the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place." Rev. 22:6

● Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Phil 4:5. Paul speaking.

● Christ said, "Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near." Rev1:3. (The time was near 2000
years ago.)
● Christ said "Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your
crown." Rev 3:11

● Christ said "Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keeps the sayings of the prophecy of this
book." Rev. 22:7

● Christ said "He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming quickly." Amen. Even so,
come, Lord Jesus!" Rev 22:20

● Paul said "But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have
wives should be as though they had none," 1 Cor 7:29

● James said "Be patient and stand firm, because the Lords's coming is near."Jam 5:8

● The Father] has delivered and drawn us to Himself out of the control and the dominion of darkness
and has transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love. Col 1:13. (Paul was and
others were in the Kingdom then, a done deal, has, as in past tense.)

● John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience
of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of
Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9 (John was in the Kingdom)

● Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be
brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1 Peter 1:13. Here is the revelation of Jesus
Christ in Peter's time; think about it, the revealing of Jesus Christ. Now think about the book of
Revelation. This Revelation occurs in us!

● For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory
which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:18

● who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various
trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it
is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 1:5-7
Salvation and the revealing of Jesus Christ within occur at the same time.

● since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you
who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
2 Thes 1:6-7

● The mystery of which was hidden for ages and generations [from angels and men], but is now revealed
to His holy people (the saints) To whom God was pleased to make known how great for the Gentiles
are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ within and among you, the Hope of
glory. Col 1:26-28

● Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Mat 5:8. Without a pure heart, you will never see God.
He appears to the purified heart of a believer - he is seen. This is his second appearance - this time to
the purified in heart.
For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness,"made his light shine in our hearts to give us
the light of the knowledge
of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2 Cor 4:6. Christ is revealed in your heart; you see the glory
of God.

● John said, "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." 1 John 2:18

● Jude said, "But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord
Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their
own ungodly lusts." Jude 1:17-18
(he was speaking of those already there in that time)

● And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is
that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it
in the world. 1 John 4:3. ( "is come" means that Jesus Christ has come in their flesh, as in "confess that
Jesus Christ has returned to them and is Lord and King in his Kingdom within them - can you imagine
how much trouble the interpreter had with this phrase? But, whatever, many antichrists were already in
the world 2000 years ago.)

● And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of God abides for ever. 1
John 2:17

● Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32
Go read these yourselves. Jesus is talking about his return. Below is Matthew 24:14-34

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then
shall the end come.
 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the
holy place, (whoso reads, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor
ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those
days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch
that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret
chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of
the Son of man be.

28 For wherever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon
shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the
heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth
mourn, and
they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power
and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his
elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, you know that
summer is near:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things
be fulfilled.

Yes, Jesus said that generation would not die before all the prophecies had been fulfilled.
His return is to individuals who prepared for the Kingdom by repentance. Everything foretold is
an individual experience.

Click on Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32 to see how they confirm the same.

The Apostles testified to having entered the Kingdom (Paul and John). Click on their names to see verses.

The Apostles told their followers the Kingdom and Christ's return would be soon for them, as above
in detailed quantity.

And the Quakers testified that Christ's had returned in glory in thousands of them.

And we know his return has occurred for some that were standing there with him 2000
years ago.
The some are those who repented to prepare for the Kingdom.

Christ's return, entering the Kingdom, and the completion of salvation are
simultaneous, when he is revealed within you. Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to
take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and once for all, will appear a second
time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are
[eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him. Heb 9:28. Do you really think this is
a particular generation? If so, how could God be so unfair to all the other generations? Since every eye
is supposed to witness the second appearance of Christ, then if Christ returns to the earth in a physical
body, how could every man see this physical occurrence? The common saying in Christendom today is:
keep looking up. But to see the return of Christ, you must keep looking within, watching,
watching, watching. For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their
inner consciousness, because God has shown it to them. Rom 1:19. The mystery of which was hidden
for ages and generations, but is now revealed to His holy people (the saints), to whom God was pleased
to make known how great for the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ
within and among you, the Hope of glory. Col 1:26-27

Jesus is recorded six times saying (click here to see) that before death some then with him would see
his return or that all the end times prophesies would be fulfilled before that generation, 2000 years
ago, would pass away.

I marvel at how those, who have spent their life as 'Bible Scholars,' could possibly miss this.

But don't expect your preachers to admit their error, for to do so would put themselves out of a
money paying job;
they would be admitting they never had a clue as to what Jesus and his message was all about - blind guides.
They would have to admit they had promised you a false salvation, without even understanding salvation!
Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. Mat 15:14

The blind guides smart enough to recognize these scriptures say: "Oh, yes Christ came back once already
to those disciples; but that one doesn't count for the one he really meant; they call themselves
"Preterists." Some even say, congratulations! you are in the Kingdom and just don't know it; or maybe it
is your lack of faith that you can't see it. Ridiculous explanations for their ignorance and lack of faith in
the power of God to bring the Kingdom to individuals of all generations who through repentance and
the cross enter the Kingdom.

Christ's Return, the Kingdom, and the completion of salvation are

an individual experience.

From Francis Howgill's Works:

The appearance of God, who is eternal life, in his day, in his immeasurable Light, is a great joy, and source
of rejoicing to the righteous. For he is to his people an everlasting light, and in his light they come to
see light.

He reveals the secret mysteries of his kingdom in those who see his day appear in their hearts, which
makes all things manifest, even the secrets of the Lord, and his hidden treasure, and his durable
riches, which never canker or rust, but are fresh, and keep their pure image and impression. By this Light
all the righteous, who have waited on God’s appearance, come to see Him. As it is written, “Lo! This is
our God, we have waited for Him, and He will save us. This is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will
be glad and rejoice and be glad in his salvation.” Does he indeed come that you have waited for?
Yes, come, “and his reward is with Him;” and they that see Him find contentment in Him, and in
his reward. And what is his reward? Joy, gladness, peace of conscience, assurance of God’s love sealed in
the heart by the pure Spirit of the Lord, the streams of Life flowing forth continually from the great
deep, which refresh and keep cool in the greatest extremity and heat of temptation; and this is enjoyed
by those that have waited and do wait for it; even in the body they bear witness of Him and
his coming. What was the witness of his disciples? "The Son of God has come and has given us
an understanding." Of what? Of God, of his day, of his appearance, of his power, of his
wisdom, of his kingdom, of hope, of faith, of assurance, of peace, of joy, of comfort
and consolation. What? In this life? Yes, a cloud of witnesses I might bring in former ages, and also
in this age, blessed be the Lord; but my witness that gives me assurance, is nearer me than all
their witnesses, although they are all true. Abraham, the father of the faithful, and of the righteous,
who believed in God and was accepted, saw Christ’s day and was glad; that is, by faith; yes, he and all
that ever saw Christ’s day, or the Father, saw Him by faith; by faith they saw Him who is invisible:
"Behold! God is my salvation." Isaiah 12:2. What! Do you enjoy it already? Yes, He has become
my salvation; and Simeon, who waited for the consolation of Israel, said: "Now let your servant depart
in peace, for my eyes have seen your salvation." Luke 2:30. And this he said, who knew comfort
and consolation: "As the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation abounds by Christ." They
were made partakers of his Divine nature, and sat together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: and they
that are in Him, and enjoy Him, who is the power of God, and the wisdom of God, know rest; and
peace, and salvation, both from guilt and acts of sin. And the apostle, writing to the Hebrews, said
that "When the Son of God had purged away our sins," (speaking of the atonement,) "He sat down on
the right hand of the Majesty on high;" he looked beyond sin, even to Him who had purged away sin;
and this being purged from sin comes to be made manifest unto and in those that believe, by the Spirit
of Jesus, who is Christ the Lamb, the arm that brings salvation, who is the author of eternal salvation
onto all those that believe. He begins it and perfects it in his day, for He works in the day, as He
himself said: "My Father works here in this, and I work." He destroys the work of the devil: this is his
work in man, which they that have come to his day feel and see, even the handy-work of God in
themselves; and his own works praise Him, for they only can. And they that have not come to the day,
know not God’s work in themselves; and they who have not yet heeded that, in themselves which
manifests all things reprovable, and which reproves, have not yet come to know the appearance of
the glimmering of light or of the day in themselves, which the saints witness in themselves, even all of
 those that are sanctified.

They that gaze abroad [looking for a visible, outward appearance] cannot see the Lord’s appearance, or
his day. He that does not know not where it consists, does not know how to look for it, any more than did
the Jews, who were scripture experts and learned men, knew where the Kingdom of God consisted. And
the literal believers, whose faith is founded on the letter [Bible/Scriptures], and on what is visible, know
no more where the Kingdom of God is to be found. This day of the Lord, which is eternal
brightness, appears in the heart; and the dawning and breaking forth of it is to be waited for there;
and as it is witnessed, it manifests evil, and brings it to light, and declares against what is contrary to its
own nature. Christ, the Covenant of light, the Gift of God, who is sent and anointed of God, to preach and
to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God, proclaims it in the
heart; for He comes not to bring peace, but a sword, and his sword is the sword of the Spirit. It is
what divides, and discerns the thoughts and intents of the heart, and discovers its desperate wickedness.
In earthly hearts where He finds no faith, He kindles a fire and executes his vengeance; and his day to
those without faith is a day of great perplexity. Their spirits come to be wounded; their hearts become
faint, and sorrow fills them, and trouble is known; and in this state He finds all who are
unconverted; without faith; without hope; and therefore He takes away peace. Many have talked of the
day of the Lord; but when it appears, they will not be able to stand it; but will rather run to anything,
[the refuge of continued darkness] than see the Lord of life appear to execute vengeance upon his enemies.

They who have not yet seen this day of the Lords vengeance in themselves, have never seen the day
of salvation. The prophet cried out: "Who may abide the day of His coming, and who shall stand when
He appears?" And many have been eye-witnesses of the dreadful day-of the Lord, which has appeared
in them, wherein all peace has been hidden from their eyes: and all that ever came to see that day
of joy and gladness, first knew the terror and the terrible day of the Lord in
themselves. Therefore said the apostle: "We, knowing the terror of the Lord, persuade men." Now this
day of the Lord comes not with observation, "Lo here, or there;" thus the Pharisees looked that the
kingdom of heaven should come, when Christ told them it "as within them." I say, if ever any do behold
the bright shining forth of Eternal Life, they must wait in what is of God, through which He will manifest
his day and power in them; and as they keep their attention to what manifests evil unto them, and
shows them good, they will see how it appears; even as the lightning shines from the east unto the west, so
is the coming of the day of the Lord; and the eye which is spiritual sees it. The power and the glory of
the Lord, are seen in the day which is pure and spiritual in the heart; and the eye which is pure
discovers when it comes, where it comes, and how it comes; while it is hidden from the vultures eye, and
is hidden from the eyes which cannot cease from sin.

Now the day of the Lord comes not where the carnal mind might imagine, nor when man wills;
neither according to the carnal desire of the carnal heart; neither according to the evil eye that looks out,
can it be seen.

And as the day of the Lord is a mystery, the Spirit of the Lord is the only discoverer of it; for none can
know the things of God, but by the Spirit of God. The day of the Lord; even his bright shining forth in
the heart of man, is one of the glorious things of God, which only the Spirit of God gives the knowledge of
to man, and in man. The further men draw from the Light, the darker their hearts become; and
their understandings being closed up, they cannot behold the Lord, neither his glory, which is revealed
only by God's Holy Spirit; which Spirit is near man, though he sees it not.

Throughout the New Testament are references to the world passing away THEN, (at that time,
not today or some time in the future). Again, these Apostles are not crazy saying that the world
was passing away 2000 years ago! No, the end of the world is a personal experience that can
occur whenever an individual believer has been purified in the "end times" that we have been
in since Pentecost.

Again: " The Kingdom of God does not come with outward signs or with visible display.
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within
and among you. "Luke 17:20-21
"It is within you and around you." Today, we would describe that as another dimension. When we step
into the Kingdom of Heaven, the world as we see it is gone; we see from another dimension, even
though our bodies are still here on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven is within us and around us; it is
another dimension of reality. Everything we now see will be gone from our sight. (Physicists tells us
there are several other dimensions than the three plus time we see.)

Considering how Paul below describes God to the Athenians in Acts, this is confirmed and
makes sense:

God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not
far from each one of us.
For in him we live and move and have our being. Acts 17:27-28

We live in God, move in God, and have our being in God; but we are not aware of it, because we are in
a lower dimension.
When we enter the Kingdom of God, we are still here, but our consciousness enters the higher dimension
- heaven.

No outward signs or visible display. Everything is inward.

You are translated into another dimension. All things are new. All old had passed away.
The world has passed away. The Book of Revelation is full of symbols; it is not literal.
So what about earthquakes - "tremble at the word of the lord?" - Inward
Many false prophets will arise - they're all around us, claiming to be his ministers, but they charge
money and have no fruit
The world ends - you step into another dimension, but you are still here John 17:15 John 17:24
Many will say they are Christ - while silent, you will hear many voices of deceit, claiming they are Jesus
Great suffering, tribulation- yes, again a personal experience, (see below) 1 Peter 1:5-7
The abomination of desolation will appear - before Christ is revealed, he has to show you the Spirit of
Satan in your heart. 2 Thes 2:3
Nation against nation? A warrings within: 1) the spirit of Christ vs. 2) the spirit of Satan - Inward.
Kingdom against Kingdom - Kingdom of God warring against the Kingdom of Hell
Light will be brighter than the sun - you will no longer walk by sunlight or moonlight, only the Light of
God. Isa 60:19 Rev 22:5
Two men will be in a field. One taken, the other left. A personal experience, not visible and without
outward signs - Inward.

From George Fox's Letter 300.

And all you that have received the power of Christ in your hearts,
have you not seen what wars, and what rumors, and nation against nation,
as it was in the two births in the womb, that came forth,
two nations, two births, nation against nation;
and much may be seen, what wars outwardly there have been, and bringing down,
before the appearance and receiving the Lord;
and so here he being received, here is people against people, and nation against nation,
and earthquakes, and shakings within and without.
They that receive the Lord's power must feel this, and know this,
and see the fulfilling of it, and not look out, for his kingdom without,
like a company of Pharisees, lo here, lo there,
but as Christ, the power of God, is known within,
(as Christ said the kingdom of heaven is within),
and as they come to feel it there, they shall know the shakings and earthquakes,
and wars, and rumors, and that part that pertains to nations,
that must be shaken before they come to be of the holy nation,
which is against the other;
and this is to be known, and seen, felt, and fulfilled
with the power of Christ Jesus, and by his spirit;
as they that live in it may take a prospect of these wonderful things
and workings of the Lord God and his power in this age.

George Fox

AntiChrist, Whore, Beast

Antichrists were already in the world at the time of the Apostles, so why are we
looking? According to John, anyone who does not confess that Christ is [has] come in the flesh (this is
his return into their flesh, not came to the earth in the flesh) is antichrist. Anyone who does not have
Christ controlling them is of a different spirit than Christ. "For many deceivers are entered into the
world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." 2
John 2:7. So again, why are we looking for "the antichrist?" They were already around 2000 years ago,
and they are all around us today. One is either controlled by the spirit of Christ, or controlled by the spirit
of Satan. Obviously, anyone controlled by the spirit of Satan is not "pro christ," they are "anti christ".
They can talk about Christ all day; they can quote the entire Bible; but, unless they possess his Spirit and
are controlled by it, they are still of the other spirit. That is why Jesus did not want man's
testimony, "because he knew what spirit was in men." See George Fox for more.

We think as a beast (our mind is marked), to whatever we set our hand (our hand is marked), we do as
a beast does and thinks - for selfishness. A mother bear "loves" her cubs, and she is obviously a beast.
Even our human love is selfish; we expect a return of love and are disappointed if not received - not like
God who gives rain to the just and the unjust - who loves his enemies. Until our selfish nature is
destroyed by the grace of God, and we receive in its place the fruit of His Spirit, including love; we
are controlled by our beastly nature; that God might manifest them, and that they might see that
they themselves are beasts. Ecc 3:18. The beast is us, before we are completed by Christ.

The beast of the Book of Revelation is the beast of heathen religious authority, which power was
severely curtailed [a wound to the head] by early Christianity, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
But a second beast shortly arose that had horns like a lamb, but was a beast. Note, this beast appears to
be Christian-like, and under pretence of the Lamb's authority, (though acted by the dragon's power,
derived from the first beast of heathen religion) compels men to comply with such traditions,
ceremonies, and rituals, (for Christian duties), as resemble the customs of the heathen, in their
idolatrous worship and superstition. The whole earth followed this beast, and still does. He
[the beast] was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people (the saints) and
to overcome them. And power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people
and tongue and nation.Thus, the false church arose, and no one could spiritually buy or sell, (like the
foolish virgins for oil in their lamps), unless they complied with the beast and had received the false
church's mark. Any who denied this false church, or who tried to buy or sell (spiritual works by mind
or hand) without the sanction of the false church were martyred, as their predecessors had done
before, under the heathen power, or first beast. And while this false church is often identified by
the Protestants as the Roman church, the Protestants are all part of the same false whore, (the beast
has many names), salvation based on saying certain words, water, bread and wine - all superstitious rituals
- instead of a complete change of heart - circumcised to be a new heart and mind.

Anyone, who tried to increase their measure of Christ by any way that differed from the doctrine of the
false church (to buy or sell spiritual oil differently for their lamps), was not only stopped; they were killed
- which really made them unable to buy or sell.

Many Roman Catholic persecutions were justified by Saint(?) Augustine's famous: Why ... should not
the Church use force in compelling her lost sons to return, if the lost sons compelled others to
their destruction?" - A classic example of the end justifies the means, which looses sight of the
principal command of Christ to "love enemies," not destroy them. Another supposed saint(?),
Thomas Aquinas wrote: On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the
conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and
second admonition," as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer
hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating
him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be
exterminated thereby from the world by death. These revered saints(?) ignore Christ's reply to
his disciples when they wished to punish the people who would not listen to him, severely rebuking
them with: Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. Jesus further said that if someone is violating
the standards of the church, (sinning), they are supposed to be warned by one, then warned by two or
three, then censured by the whole body of believers, - and if they fail to repent of their error, they
are supposed to be expelled and shunned - not killed, or imprisoned, or tortured, or stripped of
their property.

Protestants killed heretics too. John Calvin, was a principal founder of Protestantism, having great
influence on the Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Baptists, and even Lutherans. Calvin had
Servetus arrested and wrote charges of heresy against him; Servetus denied the scriptural support of
the trinity and infant baptism. Calvin's charges and arrest of him resulted in Servetus being burned at
the stake. Calvin, with many other Protestant authorities, further participated in the burning of twenty-
three others with differing religious views. Calvin wrote: Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done
to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty
as they are. There is no question here of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law
he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so
extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so that we spare not kin, nor
blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory.
The apologists of Calvin spilling blood and forgetting all humanity point out that many other
Protestants killed heretics too - (the everybody-did-it defense).

Jesus said: .. whoever kills you will think and claim that he has offered service to God. John 16:2

And the whore was drunk on the blood of the saints - the Roman church's inquisitions and
slaughters throughout Europe, in which during the Middle Ages (800 AD to 1500 AD) nine million
souls were put to death, accused of witchcraft. This was followed by the Protestants of England
and America who in 50 years were responsible for the deaths of over 869 Quakers in the 17th Century.
The persecutors of the Quakers included Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and Baptists.

From George Fox's Letter 306 :

And every one that comes into the spirit, and into the truth,
are the true worshippers of the God of truth, who is a spirit;
and all that are not in the spirit and truth, are in the beast's worship,
(out of the spirit of God), and in his wrath under the dragon's power.

And we know that before Christ returns to us the man of sin also has to be revealed in us. We see
the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place; our ego or "spirit
of flesh" standing in our heart where Jesus should be reigning. Until Jesus destroys this sinful nature,
we are ruled by it; a spirit sown by its father, Satan. When Jesus returns, he crushes the head of the
serpent, the "man of sin and the son of perdition" 2 Thes 2:3. This is the same thing as "the God of Peace
will soon crush Satan under your feet." Rom 16: 20. The son of perdition (Satan) that sits in the temple
of our heart must be revealed to us. 2 Thes 2:3-4. This is not pleasant; the light shows us our condition;
but we get changed to have Christ rule as Lord instead, by the power of the cross and through
grace. Scripture also describes this process of slaying the Spirit of Satan with the brightness of His
coming. When Christ appears, his Holy Light burns away the residual sin remaining in us, leaving us pure
as he is pure. This is the final step of many operations by grace to remove our lusts and affections from
our heart; the final step to death of self on the cross. This is when Christ returns in glory to establish
his Kingdom in our hearts, and when we are translated into paradise, stepping into another
dimension where all things are new and the old has passed away. The completion of salvation.

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

From George Fox's Journal:

If you wait in what is pure in you, you will find and see, because God has given you a measure of his
spirit, by which you can comprehend things and see the deceits. Now when the mind goes forth from
that pure measure, which lets you see deceits, the simplicity is ensnared, and God is not in your
thoughts any more; instead, the son of perdition in you sits in the temple of God, where he ought not to
sit. With the birth of the Lord [in you], this son of perdition is discovered, and with the brightness of
the Lord's coming [in you], he is consumed; that man of sin is revealed [in you], and so shall you witness
the scriptures fulfilled. But you must wait in that which is pure, which will show you when you mind
departs into disobedience..

From George Fox's Principles of Faith, written in 1661: (Click to see who Fox was.)

False prophets and antichrists are much talked of in this part of the world called Christiandom, and
they bring the 7th Chapter and 24th Chapter of Matthew, and say, they are only coming now or in
the future.

To which I answer, Christ said they should come, that antichrist and false prophets should come; to
the disciples he said they shall come to you, meaning His disciples [then, 2000 years ago, while
the disciples were still alive]; and he gave them the marks how they should know them: A corrupt
tree cannot bring forth good fruit, neither can a good tree bring forth evil fruit; but yet if it were
possible, they should deceive the very elect. For they should have the sheep's clothing; but He told
them that they should not go after them, for they were inwardly ravening wolves, having the
sheep's clothing. And these were the antichrists, and false prophets, false Christs, and deceivers
that ravened inwardly from the light, and so from the Seed, the true Christ. And as Christ said
they should come to his disciples, before his disciples died, so they did come; as may be read
in John’s first Epistle, Chap. 4:1. and Chap. 2:18. Who saith, Little children I write unto you, it is the
last time whereof you have heard say that antichrist should come, even now are there many
antichrists and false prophets already gone out into the world. So Christ had said before they should
come, and his disciples said they were come, who went from them, being inwardly ravened from the
spirit, which is sixteen hundred years since; and John which saw they were come, kept the saints to
the anointing in them, and told them that they needed no man to teach them, but as that did teach
them, they should continue in the Father and in the Son.

And so these antichrists, false prophets, wolves, false Christs, inward raveners, should bear briars,
thorns, thistles, which Christ said should come his disciples said had come, which went forth from them
into the world. And in the Revelations it is said, all the world went after them. [the false church of
Rome and the Protestant derivatives]. So they went from the church-fellowship, the gospel; they went
from the fellowship of the Spirit, being inwardly ravened from it; they went from the anointing within
to teach; they went from the law in the heart the new covenant; they went from the kingdom within;
they went from the Word in the heart to obey and do; they went from the light in the heart, which gives
the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus.

Come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not
receive any of her plagues. Rev 18:4-7
Yes, all the deficit sects of today comprise Revelation's Whore of Babylon, of which all the nations
have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, because all the sects are simply evolutional
varieties of the Roman Empire's church, both east and west, whose doctrines were dictated by the
sainted Emperors Constantine and Justinian the despot, thus eliminating the true gospel by 390 AD.
The church adulterated with the Kings of the earth. The protestants are just variations of the same
basic beliefs: instant salvation by speaking words, water baptism, eating bread/drinking grape
juice, listening to sermons, etc.; the same basic ritual form of salvation and worship. She [the deficit
sects] committed adultery with the Kings of the earth, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich
from her excessive luxuries. She boasts she is not a widow and will never see grief. She boasts that Christ
is her husband; but she, the whore, only claims his name but ignores his command to repent, his
teachings, his requirements, his warnings, his holiness, his gospel, his Kingdom, his promised freedom
from sin, and his cross of self-denial - the Missing Cross to Purity.

This deficit is hardly surprising, when you consider that Christ's disciples and apostles (John, Peter,
Paul, and Jude) wrote of false teachers and preachers in their time..

For more reading on the whore and the antichrist, Isaac Penington has an excellent paper on the
Babylon the Great, available on this site.

Tribulation
Jesus also tells us tribulation will take place for some before the generation then on the earth with
him passed away:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened,
and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers
of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the
earth mourn, and
they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect
from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, you know
that summer is near:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things
be fulfilled.
(Notice the emphasis, using the word Verily. He is trying to convince us that he is speaking plainly
and truly.
He knew the great confusion and fiction that would result speculating on his return.)

So the great tribulation and Jesus' return has already occurred for some
in that generation.
See all six of his statements (click here) regarding his return during that generation's lifetime.

Consider next what John in Revelation says:

"John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and
patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony
of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9

Here John says that he had already shared in the tribulation and he was in the kingdom 2000
years ago. Was John lying, exaggerating, confused? Of course not; he experienced it then, just as
we necessarily have to experience it now to be completed; and if John was in the tribulation, then
we should expect to be in tribulation too, as part of the purification process while on
earth. Tribulation was happening then; tribulation happens now.

And in Act 14:22-23, Paul was " Establishing and strengthening the souls and the hearts of the
disciples, urging and warning and encouraging them to stand firm in the faith, and [telling them] that it
is through many hardships and tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God." They
are talking about tribulation to disciples 2000 years ago in Acts. Tribulation was
happening then; tribulation happens now. It is on an individual level, those who
have prepared themselves and persisted.

What about the tribulation? The body is to be taken, (really they come to you), where the eagles gather
Luke 17:37--- (spiritual torturers.) There is significant suffering required to perfect love and reach
the revelation and return of Christ in you to establish his Kingdom in you and for you to be translated
into paradise. Peter says:

1 Peter 4:12-13 "Do not think it strange the fiery trial you are undergoing, but rejoice that you
are participating in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed."
(There's that "reveal" word again, as in Revelation of Jesus Christ.
He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the Revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.)

In 1 Peter 1:5-7 he says: [you] "who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of
the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice, though now for
a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that
your faith - of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire - may be proved
genuine and may result in praise, glory, and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed." (When
Jesus Christ is revealed in us - a personal experience after grief in all kinds of trials.
(He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the Revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.)

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the
glory which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:18. (Jesus Christ, in glory, revealed in us,
after sufferings.
He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the Revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.)

For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and He punishes,
even scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to His heart and cherishes...You
must submit to and endure [correction] for discipline; God is dealing with you as with sons. For what son
is there whom his father does not [thus] train and correct and discipline.Now if you are
exempt from correction and left without discipline in which all [of God's
children] share, then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons. Hebrews12:6-8

"Tribulation is a great treasure, wherewith God honors those that be his, in this life: therefore evil men
are necessary for those that are good; and so are the devils themselves, which by afflicting us do try to
ruin us: but instead of doing us harm, they do us the greatest good imaginable. There must be tribulation
to make a man's life acceptable to God; without it, it is like the body without the Soul, the Soul
without Grace, the Earth without the Sun. With the wind of tribulation God separates, in the floor of
the soul, the chaff from the corn. Those souls are to be pitied, who cannot find in their hearts to believe,
that tribulation and suffering is their greatest Blessing." Miguel de Molinos

For more scriptures, documenting how Tribulation applies to all generations, see Tribulation
Scripture References.

Tribulation is not a hard day at the office, a car wreck, divorce, death in the family, or some
natural difficulty. This tribulation is poured out on you from above, supernaturally. The tribulation has to
be supernatural; various vials of sufferings and hardships poured on you from above. And there came
unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked
with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Rev. 21:9

In the process of being purified and being prepared for Christ's return, we have to go through
supernatural suffering to develop the characteristics necessary for Love -- patience, humility, faith, and
long-suffering. Indeed all who delight in piety and are determined to live a devoted and
godly life in Christ Jesus will meet with persecution. 2 Tim 3:12. It is through many hardships
and tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God. But remember, we will never be asked to
do more than what we are able, for he will give us the strength to withstand anything he allows; and
the reward is far greater than any tribulation we have to go through -- for eye has not seen, nor
ear heard, what God has prepared for those who love him. 1 Cor 2:9 And it will greatly exceed
our fondest hopes. When this "strange thing" happens to you, don't run from God, Luke 17:33. but
rather rejoice that you have been counted worthy to suffer for his sake - 1 Peter 4:13. ( for a
little while). And Paul says in Romans 8:18 "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are]
not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Christ in you, the hope
of glory. Col 1:27

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude,
because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin.
As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.
1 Pet 4:1-2
This is how we are purified from sin, through suffering in the body in this life, into the fiery furnace
that burns away the dross.

This happened to George Fox, and he details his sufferings in his Journal. He details the return of Christ
and his being taken to the heavens with Christ to sit down in Christ. Read the first part on the
sidebar, "Early Years and Translation." Everyone determined to follow Christ suffered. Everyone has to
be tested. Read the Suffering Section in the How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God.

The pressures of attaining purity through tribulation on earth are so great that when some have
been "convinced" and "condemned" (having entered the Ministry of Condemnation and Tribulation),
they can become so tired and weary that they don't have the strength to go on; they then "fall asleep"
in Christ, (they die, but while in Christ). A group of believers were often maturing together as a
body, fellowshipping together and growing together; some could not persevere. But they are the first to
be translated at the Lord's next coming as said in 1 Thes 4:13-18, The Meeting in the Air. The infinite mercy
and kindness of the Lord takes them out of the world to protect them from evil and falling away, and to
keep them safe until their resurrection from the grave into Heaven. (This to me is wonderfully
special because it says that once someone enters into the Ministry of Condemnation, their salvation while
on earth is assured; what Love and Care He has for us -- to be sure we make it, even if we weaken
under pressure. I don't think I will ever know how great is our God - he is beyond our minds. But we
know he is clean, pure, logical, sensible, gentle, kind, merciful, fair, just, faithful and true beyond measure).

So, do we sit in our sinful natures, waiting to die to go to heaven or waiting for the rapture to take us
to heaven with our body of sin? Or, do we strive "with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength"
to enter by the narrow way? If we love God, we seek to crucify the passions, desires, lusts,
and affections of the sinful nature so that he can return make his home in us and to become our Lord
in word and deed.

Of course we can trust God to know what is absolutely best for us; he understands us far better than
we understand ourselves. He created us to know and do certain things; he has a plan for each of us; we
must strive to position ourselves so that he can complete his restoration of us back to the divine image -
the end of this world in us and the Kingdom of Heaven in us, and us in it, and He in us, and us in Him,
and he our Lord and King ruling us in love and controlling our words and deeds. He making his abode
in us and us being His and him being OUR GOD, Rev. 21:3. Judas said to him, (not Iscariot), Lord,
how is it that you will manifest yourself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and
said unto him, If a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will
come unto him, and make our abode with him. John 14:22-23. This is the return of Christ. The
world does not see it. It is a personal experience.

And to have Christ return to establish his Kingdom in our hearts and rule us, we must let Him purify us
as He is pure, for everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.
1 John 3:2-3. We must mortify the lusts and affections of the flesh. We must die to fleshly self on the cross.
See Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself and Perfection and Purity for more information on how this
is possible, and see Meditation Guidelines on how to receive the changing, purifying grace of God.

New Jerusalem

But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly
and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God
the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect. Heb 12:22-23

From George Fox's Journal again: (Click to see who Fox was.)

While I was under this spiritual travail and suffering, the state of the city New Jerusalem, which
comes down out of heaven, was opened to me; which some carnal-minded people had looked upon to be
like an outward city that had dropped out of the elements. But I saw the beauty and glory of it, the
length, the breadth, and the height of that, all in complete proportion. I saw that all, who are within the
light of Christ, in his faith, which he is the author of, in the spirit, the holy ghost, which Christ, the
holy prophets, and apostles were in, and within the grace, truth, and power of God, which are the walls
of the city; such are within the city, are members of this city, and have the right to eat of the tree of
life, which yields her fruit every month, and whose leaves are for the healing of the nations. But they who
are out of the grace, truth, light, spirit, and power of God, are those who resist the Holy Ghost, quench,
and grieve the spirit of God, who hate the light, turn from the grace of God into wantonness,
and contemptuously disregard the spirit of grace. Such as have erred from the faith, made shipwreck of
it and of a good conscience, who abuse the power of God, and despise prophesying, revelation,
and inspiration, these are the dogs and unbelievers that are without the city. These make up the great
city Babylon, confusion, and her cage, the power of darkness; and the evil spirit of error surrounds
and covers them over. In this great city Babylon are the false prophets; in the false power and false
spirit; the beast in the dragon's power, and the whore that is gone a whoring from the spirit of God,
and from Christ her husband. But the Lord's power is over all this power of darkness, cage, whore,
beast, dragon, false prophets and their worshippers, who are for the lake which burns with fire. Many
things more did I see concerning the heavenly city, the New Jerusalem, which are hard to be uttered,
and would be hard to be received. But, in short, this holy city is within the light; and all that are within
the light, are within the city; the gates whereof stand open all the day (for there is no night there), that
all may come in. Christ's blood being shed for every man, he tasted death for every man, and
enlightens every man that comes into the world; and his grace, that brings salvation, having appeared to
all men, there is no place or language where his voice may not be heard. The christians in the
primitive times were called by Christ 'a city set upon a hill;' they were also called 'the light of the world,'
and ‘the salt of the earth;' but when christians lost the light, salt, and power of God, they came to be
trodden under foot, like unsavory salt. Just as the Jews were preserved above all nations while they kept
the law of God, but when they turned their backs on God and his law, they were trodden under foot of
other nation. Likewise Adam and Eve, while they obeyed God, were kept in his image and in the paradise
of God, in dominion over all the works of his hands; but when they disobeyed God, they lost the image
of God, the righteousness and holiness in which they were made; they lost their dominion, were driven
out of paradise, and so fell under the dark power of satan, and came under the chains of darkness. But
the promise of God was, ‘that the seed of the woman, Christ Jesus, should bruise the serpent's head,'
should break his power and authority, which had led into captivity, and kept him in prison. So Christ, who
is the first and last, sets man free, and is the resurrection of the just and unjust, the judge of the quick
and dead; and they that are in him are invested with everlasting rest and peace, out of all the labors,
travails, and miseries of Adam in the fall. So he is sufficient and fully able to restore man up
into the state that he was in before he fell; and not into that state only, but up into that
state also that never fell, and beyond that state even to himself.

True religion is the true rule and right way of serving God. And religion is a pure stream of
righteousness flowing from the image of God, and is the life and power of God planted in the heart and
mind by the law of life. This brings the soul, mind, spirit, and body to be conformable to
God, the Father of spirits, and to Christ; so that they come to have fellowship with the
Father and the Son, and with all his holy angels and saints.

What Must We Do to Prepare His Way Into Us?

And Paul talks about Christ being revealed in his explanation of grace:
 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say "No" to
ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present
age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and
Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself
a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. Titus 2:11-14

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we
go to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

So, let us be joyful we have, as all generations since Pentecost have had, the opportunity for Jesus return
to us and establish his Kingdom in us. The Kingdom that is gained by repentance, which leads
to righteousness, evidenced by the fruit of the Spirit. Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27. For unto
them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28. When
he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. Everyone who has this hope
in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3. He, who has been hidden, is revealed;
the Revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more on preparing to receive
Christ and his Kingdom.

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Union with God

So that they all may be one

as you, Father, are in me and I in you,
that they also may be one in us,
so that the world may believe and be convinced that you have sent me.
John 17:21

(Text in light blue can be clicked on - to take you to the scriptural verse or other writings that confirms the text.)

This section is to show you that union with God is possible, as part of attaining the Kingdom of God
within you. To attain union, we take up the inward cross of self-denial and repentance to receive
the changing grace of God that teaches us to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present
world and then enter the Kingdom of Heaven. We are still on earth physically, but in the Kingdom where
we have fellowship with the Father and the Son, and with all his holy angels and saints.
This site shows the way to receive this changing, purifying grace, which brings the soul, mind,
spirit, and body to be conformable to God, the Father of spirits, and to Christ - and then
to the Kingdom of Heaven within and among us; to live in union with Christ and God in
their presence, while walking on earth by the light of God, as children of the light.
For God is light and nearby; in him we live and move and have our being. Our consciousness
and sight are translated to a spiritual dimension of Light or paradise, where we live in union with God
and Christ while on earth and then forever as a son of God.

He has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in
the divine nature
and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. 2 Peter 1:4

Before we attempt to show it is possible by scripture, let me clarify what it means to be "one with God."
It does not mean that you become God. It does not mean that you become Christ. We can not be equal
to either.

But while on earth we can be in Christ and the Father, and Christ and the Father can be in
us, to the point that we have the mind of Christ and are one with both. We can be in union with God,
one with God. We can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. We can be a true operational part of the body
of Christ, so that we can have Christ fully resurrected in us, that we can become an adopted Son of God,
that we can live according to the will of Father, that we can be with Christ and God forever, that we can
have fellowship with Christ and the Father in heaven while still on earth, and that our words
and actions can be controlled by God. Since Christ is one with the Father, then we can also be one
with the Father through Christ; and we can be one together with all others who are one with God
and therefore part of the Body of Christ, the true church of Christ in the unity, on earth.

This union cannot take place until you have been changed to become like Him, pure. To join, the two
must be like.
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
And we are purified by the unmerited, infinite power of God. We are all unworthy of this help.
In humility, we go to him, seeking to be changed. It is His will and power that changes us to become
like him.
For the pure in heart see God; the pure in heart experience the appearance of Christ and God with
the Kingdom.

I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also. John 14:3
This is the return of Christ. The world does not see it. He returns with the Father. They become
one with us - union.
It is a personal experience. This is not the resurrection. He is talking about becoming one with
the disciples.
I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you will keep and protect them from evil.
John 17:15
So, Jesus wants to keep us in the world, but to protect us from evil, while in the world- to be sanctified.
Father, I desire that they also whom you have entrusted to me may be with me where I am,
so they may see my glory, which you have given me - your love gift to me - for you loved me before
the foundation of the world. John 17:24
We are physically still in the world, but our consciousness and sight translate to the Kingdom of heaven,
a higher dimension.
God is in this same higher dimension; in him we live and move and have our being; who is over all,
in all, and through all.
And there we have fellowship with the Father and the Son.
So with obedience to the cross, we can enter paradise while alive on earth, to be there forever, even after
the second death.

The person who has My commands and keeps them is who loves me, and whoever loves me will
be loved by My Father.
And I will love him and will show (reveal, manifest) Myself to him;
I will let myself be clearly seen by him and make myself real to him.
Judas said to him, (not Iscariot), Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us, and not unto the world
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loves me, he will obey my teaching:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our home with him.John 14:18-23
I will dwell in them, And walk in them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people. 2
Cor 6:16

This is the return of Christ in his glory with the Father. They become one with us.
It is a personal experience, to see Christ and become one with Christ and the Father. The world does
not see Him.
Other than the fruit of the Spirit, the world does not see Christ; for such a person's life in hidden in
Christ Jesus.
This is the fabled return of Christ, and their home is the glorious Kingdom of Heaven established
in your heart.
This is union with God in the Kingdom of Heaven. It takes place at the Marriage Supper of the
Lamb with His Bride, the Church of purified believer(s).

Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one. Mark 12:29. The Lord said to my lord, sit at my right hand until
I have put your enemies, (lusts and affections), under your feet. Psalm 110:1

I'm just going to cite the Book of John in the Bible next. The writings of Fox testify to this throughout,
but here we will stick to John in the Bible to make the point. The summary of the prayer of Christ to
the Father in John17, Verses 6-26 includes:

● they may be one, as we are one; I (Christ) in them (followers) and you (Father) in me,
that they may become one and perfectly united
● not to be taken out of the world, but to be protected in the world from evil
● having the fullness of Christ's joy in your hearts and souls
● having the love given by the Father to Christ in your (followers) hearts
● being with Christ to see his glory, and still here on the earth too
● being dedicated, sanctified, consecrated, and made holy here
● being perfectly united (this is the unity of the faith, and the only unity)

Now the actual Bible verses, starting with - a magnificent prayer made by Jesus at the Last Supper where
he is praying for his disciples and for all the followers to come that might receive their teachings:

Jesus prays to the Father: (and we know all his prayers become reality, for those who bear the cross
and follow him) John 17:6-26

I have revealed your very self to the people whom you have given me out of the world. They were
yours and you gave them to me, and they have obeyed and kept your word. John17:6

Now they know and understand that all you have given me belongs to you. John 17:7

For the uttered words that you gave me, I have given them. They have received and accepted and have
come to know positively and in reality, (to believe with absolute assurance), that I came forth from
 your presence, and they have believed and are convinced that you did send me. John 17:8

I am praying (requesting) for them. I am not praying (requesting) for the world, but for those you
have given me, for they belong to you. John 17:9

All mine are yours, and all that are yours belong to me. And I am glorified in (through) them - they
have done me honor, in them my glory is achieved. John 17:10

And I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father keep
in your name them whom you have given me, that they may be one as we. John 17:11

While I was with them, I kept and preserved them in your name. Those you have given me I guarded
and protected, and not one of them has perished or is lost, except the son of perdition that the
scripture might be fulfilled. John 17:12

And now I am coming to you. I say these things while I am still in the world, so that my joy may be
made full and complete and perfect in them - that they may experience my delight
fulfilled in them, that my enjoyment may be perfected in their own souls, that they may
have my gladness within them filling their hearts. John 17:13. He wants us to have
his joy!

I have given and delivered to them your word (message), and the world has hated them because they
are not of the world - do not belong to the world - as I am not of the world. John 17:14

I do not ask will that you take them out of the world, but that you will keep and protect
them from the evil. John 17:15

They are not of the world, (worldly, belonging to the world), as I am not of the world. John 17:16

Sanctify them - purify, consecrate, separate them for yourself, make them holy- by the
truth. Your word is truth. John17:17

Just as you sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. John 17:18

And for their sake and on their behalf, I sanctify (dedicate, consecrate) myself, that they also may
be sanctified (dedicated, consecrated, made holy) in the truth. John 17:19

Neither for these alone do I pray - it is not for their sake only that I make this request -
but also for all those who will ever come to believe in (trust, cling to, rely on)
me through their word and teaching; John 17:20. All these verses in this prayer by
Jesus to the Father can apply to you and me too, because we are reading
the disciples' words and teachings. But we have to pick up our cross daily and follow
him as his disciple.

So that they all may be one as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be
one in us, so that the world may believe and be convinced that you have sent me. John 17:21 There
it is, one with the Father and Christ.

I have given to them the glory and honor which you have given me, that they may be one, as
we are one; John 17:22

I in them and you in me, in order that they may become one and perfectly united, that the
world may know and recognize that you sent me, and that you have loved them as you have loved me.
John 17:23

Father, I desire that they also whom you have entrusted to me may be with me where I
am, so they may see my glory, which you have given me - your love gift to me - for you
loved me before the foundation of the world. John 17:24. He wants us in heaven
with Him while we are still in the world, but sanctified. We can be there
with Him before we die by entering the Kingdom of Heaven within,
another dimension.

O just and righteous Father, although the world has not known you and has failed to recognize you
and has never acknowledged you, I have known you continually. And these men know and understand
that you have sent me. John17:25

I made your name known to them and revealed your character and your very self, and I will continue
to make known, that the love which you have bestowed on me may be in them -
felt in their hearts - and that I may be in them. John 17:26. He wants us to have his
spirit of love!

I hope you can see all his prayers, or promises. Just to review, Jesus promises to his true believers:
(who bear the cross and follow)

● they may be one, as we (Christ & Father) are one; I in them and you (Father) in me,
that they may become one and perfectly united
● not to be taken out of the world, but to be protected in the world from evil
● having the fullness of Christ's joy in your hearts and souls
● having the love given by the Father to Christ in your (followers) hearts
● being with Christ (in heaven) to see his glory, and still on the earth too
● being dedicated, sanctified, consecrated, and made holy here
● being perfectly united (this is the unity of the faith, and the only unity)

This is perhaps the scripture with the greatest hope; and is one of the few times a prayer from Jesus
was recorded - and what a prayer it is to us! But we must bring forth the fruit of repentance to
purity through the cross of Christ as his true disciple.

But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him.
By this we know that we are in Him.
He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 2:1-6
So if we obey the Word that we hear him say to us or what he shows us in the Light,
(Jesus being the Light and the Word), and if we abide in Him, we are of the truth and we know
we are in Him.
and God's love is perfected in us; resulting in us walking as Jesus walked, in love and truth.

Now, from George Fox's Journal, "Early Years and Translation" here is his experience arriving at unity
with Christ and God:
(full unabridged Journal is available on the left sidebar)

I saw also the mountains burning up, and the rubbish, and the rough, and crooked ways
and places made smooth and plain, that the Lord might come into his tabernacle. These
things are to be found in man's heart; but to speak of these things being within, seemed
strange to the rough, crooked, and mountainous ones. Yet the Lord said, ‘0h earth,
hear the word of the Lord!'

Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low;
and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth. Luke 3:5

"Now I came up in spirit, through the flaming sword, into the paradise of God. All things
were new, and all the creation gave another smell unto me than before, beyond what words can utter.
I knew nothing but pureness, innocence, and righteousness, being renewed up into the image of
God by Christ Jesus; so that I came up to the state of Adam, which he was in before he
fell. The creation was open to me; and it was showed me how all things had their names given them,
according to their nature and virtue. I was at a stand in my mind, whether I should practice medicine
for the good of mankind, seeing the nature and virtues of the creatures were so opened to me by the
Lord. But I was immediately taken up in spirit, to see into another or more steadfast
state than Adam's in innocence, even into a state in Christ Jesus, that should never fall.
And the Lord showed me, that such as were faithful to him, in the power and light of
Christ, should come up into that state in which Adam was before he fell; in which the
admirable works of the creation, and the virtues of that may be known, through the openings of that
divine word of wisdom and power by which they were made. Great things did the Lord lead me into,
and wonderful depths were opened unto me, beyond what can by words be declared; but as people
come into subjection to the spirit of God, and grow up in the image and power of the Almighty, they
may receive the word of wisdom that opens all things, and come to know the hidden unity in the
Eternal Being."

So [God] drove out the man [Adam and Eve out of paradise, the Garden of Eden]; and He placed at the east of the Garden of Eden
the cherubim
and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep and guard the way to the tree of life. Gen 3:24

AND further from George Fox's Journal, "Early Years and Translation"

"Moreover, the Lord God let me see, when I was brought up into his image in righteousness
and holiness, and into the state of the paradise of God how Adam was made a living
soul; and also to the stature of Christ, the mystery that had been hid from ages and generations:
which things are hard to be uttered, and cannot be borne by many. For of all the sects in Christendom
(so called) that I discussed with, I found none that could bear to be told that anyone could
spiritually grow to Adam's perfection, (that is into that image of God, and righteousness
and holiness that Adam was in before he fell), to be clear and pure without sin as he
was. Therefore, how would they be able to bear being told that any should spiritually grow up to
the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; when it threatens them to hear that any
shall come, while upon earth, into the same power and spirit that the prophets and apostles were in?
 Though it is an absolute truth, that none can understand the Apostle’s writings correctly without the
same spirit by which they were written.

The Lord God opened to me by his invisible power, how that ‘every man was enlightened by the divine
light of Christ.’ I saw it shine through all, and that they that believed in it came out of condemnation
to the light of life, and became the children of it; but they that hated it and did not believe in it, were
condemned by it, though they made a profession of Christ. This I saw in the pure openings of the light
without the help of any man; neither did I then know where to find it in the scriptures; though
afterwards, searching the scriptures, I found it. For I saw in that light and spirit which was before the
scriptures were given forth, and which led the holy men of God to give them forth, that all must come
to that spirit, if they would know God or Christ, or the scriptures correctly, which they that gave them
forth were led and taught by. "
(from George Fox's Journal)

That is the purpose of this web site: to show you what is possible and then show you how to attain
union with God. It requires you to put to death the sinful nature through repentance, for you must
loose your fleshly life to find your spiritual Life.

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

It is grace that brings us salvation by teaching to deny ungodliness and lusts, to live
soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world, looking for that blessed hope, and
the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ. Becoming one with
God, entering the Kingdom of Heaven, and the completion of salvation all occur with the return of Jesus,
a personal experience, which has always been available to those who by repentance purify themselves
to become ready. Some, standing with Jesus, saw his return before they died; because it is a
personal experience.

Read the Home page for an overview or go directly to Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself and
How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God. Another view of the same process is detailed
in Silent Prayer. Don't stop seeking until you are in fellowship with Christ and the Father in heaven;
don't teach, preach, or witness until you are explicityly commanded to do so, because your spiritual
progress will be stopped if you talk about God or Christ before being adjusted, restored, perfected, and set
to rights.

Jesus said, The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his
master. Luke 6:40. The Amplified Bible says: A pupil is not superior to his teacher, but every
one completely trained - readjusted, restored, set to rights and perfected - will be like
his teacher.

Why would Christ tell us this, unless he wanted us to become like him? Remember this was the preface
of his statement: "Don't try to take the spec out of your brother's eye until you remove the beam from
your own." When "you get the beam out of your own eye" by being perfected, you can see clearly how
to remove the spec from your brother's. So he wants us sinless and purified so we can help our brothers,
but until then, we can't even see how to help - and if we think we can, we are more blind than he who we
are trying to help - we have a beam in our eye, and he only has a spec - who is more blind? Only when
Christ has perfected us, can we remove that beam; only then can we preach or teach, after we
are readjusted, restored, perfected and set to rights, authorized; then we can help - until then we just
harm those we try to correct. To be restored, is to be renewed into the image of God, as was man before
the fall - which is Christ's job with all of us - to reconcile the whole creation back to God, as it was,
even better, than before it fell due to the disobedience of Adam. For we cannot be reconciled back to God
in our fallen state, we must be purified, restored, perfected before union can take place - union that is
only possible between two like beings.

He did not want man to bear witness about him, because he knew what was in their hearts. John 2:25

Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will
be judged more strictly. Jam 3:1

Always be ready to tell someone if they ask about your hope, with meekness and fear. 1 Pet 3:15
(But only if asked! Then you answer because you have to be truthful.)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for how to achieve purity and then union with God.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
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The Sacraments

But in vain they do worship me,

teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mat 15:9

The word sacrament is not to be found in the entire Bible; such absence being our first clue to the origin
of sacraments not being from God, but an invention of man. The word is derived from a Greek
word meaning mystery and was used in military oaths of pagans. As with many practices of the pagans,
the Roman and Greek sects incorporated these heathenish practices into their religion, making
themselves more popular and drawing more tithe-paying followers, (follow the money). There are many
so-called sacraments, all of which have their origin in the Roman sect, including: communion,
baptism, confirmation, penance, anointing the sick, holy orders, and matrimony.

Communion (called the Eucharist)

From George Fox in his Journal, defending the denial of the sacrament and explaining the
true requirements of fellowship :

Another great objection they [the other sects] had, "That the Quakers denied the sacrament," as they
called it, "of bread and wine, which" they said, "they [the other sects] were to take, and do in
remembrance of Christ to the end of the world." A great deal of work we had with the priests and
professors [of the other sects] about this, and about the several modes of receiving it in Christendom,
so called: for some of them take it kneeling, some sitting; but none of them all, that ever I could find,
take it as the disciples took it. For the disciples took it in a chamber after supper; but the sects
generally take it before dinner; and some say, after their priest has blessed it, it is "Christ's body." But
as to this matter, Christ said, "Do this in remembrance of me." He did not tell them how often they
should do it, or how long; neither did he tell them to do it always as long as they lived, or that all
believers in him should do it to the world's end. The apostle Paul, who was not converted until after
Christ's death, tells the Corinthians, that he had received from the Lord what he had told them
concerning this matter; and Paul relates Christ's words concerning the cup thus: "This do you, as
often as you drink it, in remembrance of me" and himself adds, "For as often as you do eat this bread
and drink this cup, you do show forth the Lord's death until he comes." So according to what Paul
here relates, neither Christ nor he instructed the people to do this always, but leaves it to their liberty,
"as often as you drink it,"... The Jews used to share a cup of wine, and to break bread and divide it
among themselves in their feasts; as may be seen in the Jewish Antiquities; so that the breaking of
bread and drinking of wine were Jewish rites, which were not to last forever. They also baptized with
water, which made it not seem a strange thing to them, when John the Baptist came with his
decreasing ministration of water baptism. But as to the bread and wine, after the disciples had taken
it, some of them questioned whether Jesus was the Christ? For some of them said, after he was
crucified, “We trusted that it had been he who should have redeemed Israel,".. And although the
Corinthians had eaten the bread and wine, and had been baptized in water, the apostle told them they
were "reprobates, [still captive to sin] if Christ was not in them;" and told them "examine
themselves." And as the apostle said, "As often as you do eat this bread, and drink this cup, you show
forth the Lord's death until he comes;" so Christ had said before that he was the "bread of life,"
which" came down from heaven;" and that "he would come, and dwell in them;" which the apostles
witnessed to be fulfilled in themselves; and they exhorted others to seek that which "comes down
from above;" but the outward bread and wine, and water, are not from above, but from below.

Now you, who eat and drink this outward bread and wine in remembrance of Christ's death, and have
your fellowships in that, will you come no nearer to Christ's death than to take bread and
wine in remembrance of it? After you have eaten in remembrance of his death,
 you must come into his death, and die [spiritual death of the inward cross of self-denial]
with him, as the apostles did, if you will live with him. This is a nearer and further
advanced state, to be with him in the fellowship of his death, than to only eat bread and wine in
remembrance of his death.

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him, Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with
him. Col 2:12
Then having suffered with him, died with him, and been buried with him, if you are risen with Christ
"seek those things which are above where Christ, sits on the right hand of God." Eat the bread which
comes down from above, which is not outward bread; and drink the cup of salvation which he gives in
his kingdom, which is not outward wine. And then there will not be a looking at the things that are
seen (as outward bread and wine and water are), for the apostle says, "The things that are seen are
temporal, but the things that are not seen are eternal." So here are many states and conditions to be
gone through before people come to see that, and partake of that which "comes down from above:"

For, first, there was "a taking of the outward bread and wine in
remembrance of Christ's death." This was temporary, and not of necessity; but at their
liberty, "As often as you do it,..".

Secondly, there must be "a coming into his death, a suffering with
Christ;" and this is of necessity to salvation; and not temporarily, but continually:
there must be a "dying daily."

Thirdly, a "buried with Christ."

Fourthly, "a rising with Christ."

Fifthly, after they are risen with Christ, then "a seeking those things which
are above, a seeking the bread that comes down from heaven" and a
"feeding on that and having fellowship in that." For outward bread, wine, and
water are from below, and are visible and temporal; but, said the apostle, "We look not at things
that are seen, for the things that are seen are temporal, but the things that are not seen are eternal."

So the fellowship that stands in the use of bread, wine, water, circumcision, outward temple, and
things seen will have an end; but the fellowship which stands in the gospel, the power of God, which
was before the devil was, and which brings life and immortality to light, by which people may see over
the devil that has darkened them, this fellowship is eternal, and will stand. And all that are in the true
fellowship seek that which is heavenly and eternal, which comes down from above, and are settled in
the eternal mystery of the fellowship of the gospel, which is hidden from all eyes that look only at
visible things. The apostle told the Corinthians, who were in disorder about water, bread, and wine,
that he "desired to know nothing among them, but Jesus Christ, and him crucified."

And from George Fox's Journal when discussing communion with the Jesuits:

After this he [the Jesuit began speaking about communion] came to his sacrament of the altar, beginning at the
paschal lamb, and the show bread, and came to the words of Christ, 'This is my body,' and to what the
apostle wrote of it to the Corinthians; concluding, 'that after the priest had consecrated the bread and
wine, it was immortal and divine, and he that received it, received the whole Christ.' I followed him
through the scriptures he brought, until I came to Christ's words and the apostle's. I showed him,
'that the same apostle told the Corinthians, after they had taken bread and wine in remembrance of
Christ's death, that they were reprobates, [still subject to sin] "if Christ was not in them;" but if the
bread they ate was Christ, he must of necessity be in them after they had eaten it. [which if reprobates, is
impossible: Proof 1]. Besides, if this bread and this wine, which the Corinthians ate and drank, was
Christ's body, then how has Christ a body in heaven?' [Proof 2]. I observed to him also, 'that both the
disciples at the supper, and the Corinthians afterwards, were to eat the bread and drink the wine in
"remembrance of Christ," and to "show forth his death until he comes;" which plainly proves the
bread and wine, which they took, was not his body. For if it had been his real body that they ate, then
he had already come, and was then there present, and it had been improper to have done such a thing
in remembrance of him, if he had been then present with them, as he must have been, if that bread
and wine which they ate and drank had been his real body.' [Proof 3]. As to those words of Christ, 'This
is my body,' I told him, 'Christ calls himself a vine, and a door, and is called in scripture a
rock. Is Christ therefore an outward rock, door, or vine?’ 'Oh,' said the Jesuit, 'those words
are to be interpreted;' 'So,' I said, 'are those words of Christ, “This is my body."' [Proof 4]. Having
stopped his mouth as to argument, I made the Jesuit a proposal thus: 'that seeing he said, "the bread
and wine was immortal and divine, and the very Christ; and that whosoever received it, received the
 whole Christ;" let a meeting be appointed between some whom the pope and his cardinals should
appoint, and some of us; let a bottle of wine and loaf of bread be brought, and divided each into two
parts, and let them consecrate which of those parts they would. Then set the consecrated and the
unconsecrated bread and wine in a safe place, with a sure watch upon it; and let trial be thus made,
whether the consecrated bread and wine would not lose its goodness, and the bread grow dry and
moldy, and the wine turn dead and sour, as well and as soon as that which was unconsecrated.' By
this means,' I said, 'the truth of this matter may be made manifest. And if the consecrated bread and
wine does not change, but retain their savor and goodness, this may be a means to draw many to your
church; but if they change, decay, and lose their goodness, then you ought to confess and forsake your
error, and shed no more blood about it; for much blood has been shed about these things; as in queen
Mary's days.' To this the Jesuit made this reply, 'Take a piece of new cloth, and cut it into two pieces,
and make two garments of it, and put one of them upon king David's back, and the other upon a
beggar's, and the one garment shall wear away as well as the other.' I asked, 'Is this your answer?'
'Yes,' he said. 'Then,' I said, 'by this the company may all be satisfied that your consecrated bread and
wine is not Christ. [Proof 5]. Have you told people so long, that the consecrated bread and wine was
immortal and divine, and that it was the very and real body and blood of Christ, and do you now say it
will wear away or decay as well as the other? I must tell you,"Christ remains the same today as
yesterday," and never decays; but is the saints' heavenly food in all generations, through which they
have life.' He replied no more to this, being willing to let it fall; for the people that were present saw
his error, and that he could not defend it.

The Roman, Greek, and some Protestant (the protesters) sects say that the wine and bread is
changed (consecrated, made holy) to be the body and blood of Christ by the priest reciting a special
prayer. This is nothing but magic words said by the priest to change bread into Christ's flesh and wine
into Christ's blood - could this be any sillier than a witch doctor's magic words, mumbo jumbo? But
because of the pomp and circumstance (robes, impressive buildings, the sanctuary, choirs, organs,
candles, many people nodding their heads), we accept such magic words as truth - what we would laugh
at in other cultures, not surrounded by similar splendor! Heathenish Superstition!

In John 6:27-28, Christ begins his "eat my flesh, drink my blood" discourse with this statement,
Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes
and decomposes, but strive and work and produce rather for the
food which endures unto life eternal; the Son of Man will give (furnish) you
that, for God the Father has authorized and certified Him and put His seal of
endorsement upon Him. I suggest a sect's sacrament of eating bread and drinking wine could hardly
be described as "striving, working, and producing" food, but rather is a lazy man's substitute for a
directly ordered labor that Christ sufficiently describes to lay to rest any contrary arguments.
Christ further distinguishes: This is the Bread that came down from heaven.
It is not like the manna which our forefathers ate, and yet died;
he who takes this Bread for his food shall live forever.
Christ ends with: It is the Spirit Who gives life; the flesh conveys no
benefit whatever.
The words (truths) that I have been speaking to you are spirit and
life, John 6:59-63.
Clearly, his words, which we must labor to hear, by getting quiet to wait and listen, is the bread which
we must eat,
by listening, hearing, and obeying (repenting), Luke 6:47-48.

In the Last Supper, perhaps the greatest and most dramatic example of his teaching was his washing the
feet of the disciples, showing that he who would be greatest, should be the servant of all. If we were to
follow this teaching literally, your preacher would regularly wash the feet of the entire congregation to
show his humility; but curiously, such a ceremony is not upheld by men who would have the principal
seat in the assembly and love to be greeted with titles such as Reverend [meaning worthy of
adoration], Father, Brother, Elder, Bishop, Sister, Prophet, Prophetess, Doctor, Teacher, Pastor, etc. I
say this, not to suggest such a ceremony is necessary, but only to illustrate how selective are the
inventions of sacrament; for the physical examples, which Jesus used to illustrate his teachings, were to
be followed in spiritual principle only, not physical ceremony.

There is another point to be made regarding Paul's instructions to the Corinthians: that when he spoke
of condemnation when eating, he referenced the fact that some were not waiting on their poor brethren
to arrive before eating their evening meal, such poor who had no homes or food, and forgetting that
all believers were one body, proceeded to eat and drink before the poor arrived - thereby
incurring condemnation by their unworthy behavior. 1 Cor 11:20-28:
So when you gather for your meetings, it is not the supper instituted by the Lord that you eat,
For in eating each one to get his own supper first [not waiting for the poor], and one goes hungry
while another gets drunk.
What! Do you have no houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and mean
to show contempt for it, while you humiliate those who are poor (have no homes and have brought
no food)? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not!
For I received from the Lord Himself that which I passed on to you , that the Lord Jesus on the night
when He was treacherously delivered up and while His betrayal was in progress took bread,
And when He had given thanks, He broke and said, Take, eat. This is My body, which is broken for you.
Do this to call Me to remembrance.
Similarly when supper was ended, He took the cup also, saying, This cup is the new
covenant [ratified and established] in My blood. Do this, as often as you drink , to call Me
to remembrance.
For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are representing and signifying
and proclaiming the fact of the Lord's death until He comes [again].
So then whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in a way that is unworthy will be guilty of
the body and blood of the Lord.
Let a man examine himself, and so should he eat of the bread and drink of the cup.

So, the believers ate together. Some were so poor they had no food or homes. Some were eating before
the poor arrived, showing contempt for their poor brothers; showing contempt for the body of Christ
in which all are one, like the bread which Christ broke into pieces, to signify that his body was to be
broken, so it could then be raised in many, and which we should remember each time we eat and drink,
until he returns to us. But, by eating without waiting on the poor brothers, they showed contempt for
the believers' body of Christ, (including themselves), and therefore ate condemnation on themselves.
We are to call him to remembrance every time we eat and drink, until his return.
Notice: this in no way speaks of eating and drinking as a "sacrament" or ceremony - (bread was part of
a supper, wine afterwards).
It was only a remembrance of Christ's broken body and shed blood, so that upon his personal return to
us, we might live in and through Him.
And, as did the disciples, those who have received the completion of Christ's return in them would
not continue this practice after supper.

Water Baptism

In the beginning of the early Church, they (Peter particularly) maintained Jewish circumcision, dietary
law, and the Jewish custom of water purification rites - known by Christians as John's water baptism.
Peter even applied some of these practices on the Gentiles, until: the Holy Spirit corrected him on food,
Paul corrected him, and the Apostles Council issued different guideline for Gentiles. Since both Christ
and John the Baptist spoke of a better baptism, this baptism was later eliminated from Christian
practice and the faith maintained one faith, one Lord, and one baptism, the baptism of fire or of the
Holy Spirit. Clearly, just as there are no multiple lords, there are no
multiple baptisms.

There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith,
one baptism. Eph 4:4-5

John said: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but he that comes after me is mightier than
I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mat 3:11
Jesus said: For John truly baptized with water; but you shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many
days hence. Acts 1:5
Paul said: There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:4-5
I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: 1 Cor 1:14-17.
So in this scripture Paul is plainly not happy that he water baptized even the handful that he did.

Acts 8:13- 22
Simon the magician believed and was baptised. He tried to buy the power of laying on of hands.
Acts 8:13-18

Peter said to him, "Repent therefore of your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of
your heart may be forgiven you. For I perceive that you are in the gall of bitterness, and the bond
of iniquity." Acts 8:22
Does this sound like a man saved by believing or baptism - who in in the gall of bitterness and
the bond of iniquity?
You can't be 'saved' and still be in bitterness and the bond of iniquity?
Peter said "perhaps" he could be forgiven, if he repented and prayed
for forgiveness.
But forgiven is not saved. He was forgiven before.
Clearly the one baptism needed is the fire of the Holy Ghost, which circumcises the heart, by plunging
down sin and iniquity, and puts off the body of death and sins of the flesh so that we are without sin;
"..baptized into Jesus Christ .. his death, buried with him by baptism into death, that they should walk
in newness of life." Peter corroborates the same: There is also an antitype which now saves us—
baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward
God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:21

Although to be avoided as an unnecessary ritual, water baptism is not harmful, unless you think
it somehow makes you righteous, thereby being prevented from your seeking righteousness, which
is Christ's top priority command " Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness."

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, Eph 5:26-27 . You
must habitually seek and hear the Spirit of God, which is the Word of God, to be washed inside and
outside by holy pure water; and obey the heard Words from the mouth of God, continually, to ever
be sanctified.

Most sects have "Christening" as a sacrament also, or simply infant baptism, usually for a fee of
course (follow the money). There is no scriptural basis for this baptism at all. It is derived from the
mistaken belief that one must be baptised in water to be 'saved' and therefore it applies to children also.
God is not so unfair as to banish one infant, who has not been sprinkled with water, and embrace
another who has been sprinkled or immersed - that makes him a God who judges on a
ridiculous technicality or ritual, completely without fairness and justice. It further assumes that infants
need 'saving,' which is further silliness. What sin have infants committed?

From George Fox's Journal:

There were some Baptists in that country, whom I desired to see and speak with, because they were
separated from the public worship. So Oats, one of their chief teachers, and others of the heads of
them, with several of their company, came to meet us at Barrow, where we discoursed with them. One
of them said, 'what was not of faith, was sin.' Upon which I asked them, what faith was? And how it
was created in man? But they turned off from that, and spoke of their baptism in water. Then I asked
them, whether their mountain of sin was brought down, and laid low in them? And their rough and
crooked ways made smooth and straight in them? They looked upon the scriptures as meaning
outward mountains and ways; but I told them, they must find them in their own hearts; at which they
seemed to wonder. We asked them, who baptized John the Baptist? who baptized Peter,
John, and the rest of the apostles? And put them to prove by scripture, that these were
baptized in water: but they were silent.

and:

In like manner he [Paul] was tender concerning the baptizing with water; but when he saw they began
to make sects about it, some crying up Paul, others Apollo, he judged them, and called them carnal,
and thanked God he had baptized no more but few; declaring plainly, that he was sent to preach the
gospel, and not to baptize; and brought them to the one baptism by the one spirit, into the one body
which Christ, the spiritual man, is the head of; and exhorted the church, "all to drink into that one
spirit." For he asserted in the church the one faith, which Christ was the author of; and one baptism,
which was that of the spirit into the one body; and one Lord Jesus Christ, who was the spiritual
baptizer, who John said should come after him. And further the apostle declared that they, who
worshipped and served God in the spirit, were of the circumcision of the spirit, which was "not made
with hands;" by which the "body of the sins of the flesh was put off:" which circumcision Christ is the
minister of.

and:

And although the Corinthians had eaten the bread and wine, and had been baptized in
water, the apostle told them they were "reprobates, [still subject to sin] if Christ
was not in them;" and bid them "examine themselves."

and:

While I was in London, I went one day to visit him that was called squire Marsh, who had showed
much kindness both to me and Friends. I happened to go when he was at dinner. He no sooner heard
of my name, but he sent for me to come up, and would have had me sit down with him to dinner; but
I had not freedom to do so. Several great persons were at dinner with him; and he said to one of them
who was a great Papist, 'here is a Quaker, which you have not seen before.’ The Papist asked me,
'whether I did own the christening of children?' I told him,' there was no scripture for any such
practice.' 'What!' he said, 'not for christening children!' I said, 'no' I told him, 'the one baptism by the
one spirit into one body we owned; but to throw a little water on a child's face, and say, that was
baptizing and christening it, there was no scripture for that.'

Jesus said: I tell you the truth, no one can enter the Kingdom of God, unless he is born of water and
spirit, John 3:5
Some say the above verse proves water baptism;
but to be born of water, is to be washed by his spoken, heard, and obeyed words:

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, Eph 5:25-26

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. John 15:3

Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou
hast no part with me. John 13:8

Finally there are those who say: Jesus was baptised with water, so that proves it necessary. If you follow
this logic, you must get circumcised (whatever your age, whatever the pain), follow all the dietary
laws, observe all the Jewish ceremonies, etc. But Jesus was Jewish, and he had to completely fulfill the
Law to live without sin, the Law being replaced by the new covenant that he came to establish. Of course
all the above is not required, and practicing them would only put you under condemnation of the Law.
And remember, there is absolutely no record of Jesus water baptizing anyone.

Confirmation

There is not scripture to support this either. It is a total invention of man in the Roman sect,
presupposing that the invented infant baptism is not sufficient to keep a maturing person sufficiently saved.

Holy Orders
This is process of ordination of bishops, priests, and other clergy, among three sacraments that create
an indelible mark called a sacramental character on the recipient's soul. This is man creating offices
by ceremony that is supposedly holy - again a total invention of man, restricted to the Roman, Greek,
and Anglicans sects.

Christ is the only one who can select, train, and authorize a man to be a pastor, teacher, or evangelist.
There is no ceremony or magic words mentioned in the Bible for creation of any of these offices.

Marriage

I quote from William Penn's Introduction of George Fox's Journal:

Their way of marriage is peculiar to them, and shows a distinguishing care above other societies
professing christianity. They say that marriage is an ordinance of God, and that God only
can rightly join man and woman in marriage. Therefore they use neither priest nor
magistrate, but the man and woman concerned take each other as husband and wife in the presence
of a number of credible witnesses, 'promising unto each other, with God's assistance, to be loving and
faithful in that relation until death shall separate them.' .... This society refuses ceremonies of ring
and priest based on conscience, reasonably supported in scripture's examples, showing that the priest
had no part in marriage other than to be one of the witnesses, before whom the Jews used to take one
another in marriage. This people look upon the necessity of a priest in marriage as an
imposition to advance the power and profits of the clergy. They considered the use of the
ring, to be a heathen and vain custom, which was never in practiced among the people of God, Jews,
or primitive Christians. The words of the usual form, as 'With my body I worship you,' etc. are hardly
defensible. In short, their method is more careful, exact, and regular than any form now used, and it
is free of other method's inconveniences. Their care and checks are so many that no clandestine
marriages can be performed among them.

There is no recorded marriage in the Bible where a priest or magistrate officiates. The Roman sect
instituted it, for purposes of control of the population, and most important, again money, (follow
the money).

Penance
Fortunately limited to the Roman and Greek sects, this sacrament purchases your forgiveness of sins
past and present, by visiting various relics and shrines (pilgrimages), acts of punishment (i.e., saying
prayers over and over), and money to finance masses (religious services). This is a total invention by
man, focusing on the physical, ignoring any requirement of true sorrow and amendment of actions,
and substituting man's external actions for a change of heart resulting from true conviction and
repentance with God. However, this invention has been the single greatest source of revenue for the
Roman faith, (follow lots of the money) !
All of these acts of pilgrimages, punishment, and finance, being without scripture precedent,
are rationalized as "good" and "worthy" by the Pope's declarations, known as Bulls. The Pope's authority
is claimed to be passed in succession from previous Popes, the first being Peter. Such claimed
succession is without scriptural support; even if succession were supported by scripture, all Popes in
the chain would have to be holy like Peter. But several of the Popes were so evil, they were driven out
of Rome by outraged citizens for several hundred years; France was so repulsed by papal conduct, they
even abandoned Christianity for a time. There are web sites dedicated to the historical criminal activity
of the papacy. A claimed authority on succession is obviously a blatant lie. I should point out that not
all Popes indulged their flesh, greed, and passions; but for the chain of succession to be remotely
possible, all within the chain, would of necessity, be controlled by God in their words and actions, which
is historically not true.

Even more ridiculous, are the several Protestant sects that have split from the Roman sect because of
their errors, but then hypocritically claim their clerical authority on the same line of succession of
Popes prior to their split.

Last Rites

Just before death, a priest says a particular prayer, with your preferred last confession of sins.
This supposedly assures you to go to heaven. This is another case of instant salvation.

Many people justify all instant salvations on the basis of the Thief on the Cross, next to Jesus as he
was crucified, taking comfort in Jesus saying to him, "Today you will be with me in paradise."

Of course the thief's circumstances were exceptional. Consider these:

1) he was watching another convicted criminal (Jesus) next to him being crucified.
2) this man, [Jesus] who claimed a special relationship with God, did nothing to prevent his
crucifixion.
3) the criminal himself was in unimaginable agony from the pain of his own crucifixion.

and, still his faith was strong enough to rebuke another criminal, who was also being crucified and
hurled insults at Jesus: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!" This [other] criminal replied:
"Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we
are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."Then he said, "Jesus,
remember me when you come into your kingdom."

I would submit this man's faith was so strong, still active in excruciating pain, still active watching the
man who claimed to be the son of God being horribly executed; that such faith, being beyond what I
can claim to be able to show similarly, was rewarded for it being extraordinary and exceptional.

So anyone, who claims this criminal's superhuman example as the basis for their going to heaven
because they too "believe in Jesus," fails to consider the magnitude of the criminal's faith, which almost
all would be hard pressed to duplicate.

As I was told by the Voice of the Lord: "If you had been with me on the night I
was arrested, you would not have believed I was the Holy One of Israel."

Anointing the Sick

This one is at least scriptural. Mark 6:13 related the disciples healing the sick with oil. And Paul
says sickness calls for the elders to be sent for (but not to a church setting, rather they were called to
the place of sick person), And they should pray over him, anointing him with oil in the Lord's name.
This was not a church ceremony. The Roman sect started this as a sacramental ceremony, but the
sect stopped this ceremony when sicknesses failed to be cured; to be named an elder, without being led
and controlled by the Spirit of God, results in a church that was not controlled by God. God does not honor
a group of false elder's prayers; to do so would only strengthen a false church.

Conclusion
Most of the invented and supposed sacraments are man's invention of a easy, ritualized, self-
performed salvation that could hardly be described as the narrow gate, to which we must strive to enter,
and which few will find for many embrace the broad, easy way that leads to destruction. To strive is to
exert much effort or energy; few would argue that being wet with water, or eating bread and drinking
wine or grape juice, is to labor with much effort or energy. Rather it forms a fantasy salvation of
no effort, just ritual - I would include saying the "sinner's prayer" to be just another invention of
self-appointed evangelists, who are anxious to get credit for their imagined "saving" of another soul.
All of these practices are just superstitious traditions, heathenisyh ceremonies and rituals of a false
church; the same false church described in the book of Revelation. Yes, all the deficit sects of today
comprise Revelation's Whore of Babylon, of which all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of
her fornication, because all the sects are simply evolutional varieties of the Roman Empire's church,
both east and west, whose doctrines were dictated by the sainted Emperors Constantine and Justinian
the despot, thus eliminating the true gospel by 390 AD. As predicted in the Bible's Book of Revelation,
the church adulterated with the Kings of the earth.

The beast of the Book of Revelation is the beast of heathen religious authority, which power was
severely curtailed [a wound to the head] by early Christianity, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
But a second beast shortly arose that had horns like a lamb, but was a beast. He [the beast]
was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people (the saints) and to overcome
them. And power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and tongue
and nation. Note, this beast appears to be Christian-like, and under pretence of the Lamb's
authority, (though acted by the dragon's power, derived from the first beast of heathen religion)
compels men to comply with such traditions, ceremonies, and rituals, (for Christian duties),
as resemble the customs of the heathen, in their idolatrous worship and superstition. The whole
earth followed this beast, and still does. Thus, the false church arose, and no one could spiritually
buy or sell, (like the foolish virgins for oil in their lamps), unless they complied with the beast and
had received the false church's mark. Any who denied this false church, or who tried to buy or sell
(spiritual works by mind or hand) without the sanction of the false church were martyred, as
their predecessors had done before, under the heathen power, or first beast.

Anyone, who tried to increase their measure of Christ by any way that differed from the doctrine of the
false church (to buy or sell spiritual oil differently for their lamps), was not only stopped; they were killed
- which really made them unable to buy or sell.

And the whore was drunk on the blood of the saints - the Roman church's inquisitions and
slaughters throughout Europe, in which during the Middle Ages (800 AD to 1500 AD) nine million
souls were put to death, accused of witchcraft. This was followed by the Protestants of England
and America who in 50 years were responsible for the deaths of over 869 Quakers in the 17th Century.
The persecutors of the Quakers included Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Calvinist
Puritans [Congregationalists], and Baptists. She boasts she is not a widow and will never see grief.
She boasts that Christ is their husband; but these false churches are the whore of Babylon, who
ignore Christ's commands to repent, his teachings, his requirements, his warnings, his required holiness,
his gospel, his Kingdom, his promised freedom from sin, and his cross of self-denial - the Missing Cross
to Purity.

And while this false church is often identified by the Protestants as the Roman church, the Protestants
are all part of the same false whore, (the beast has many names), salvation based on saying certain
words, water, bread and wine - all superstitious rituals - instead of a complete change of heart -
circumcised to be a new heart and mind.

(If you want to read more about the whore and the beast, Isaac Penington has writings on this site:
1. Babylon the Great, and 2. The Great Apostasy, and Janney's History of the Church.)

Instead of a new heart, all you have to do is supposedly say words. But to say that Jesus is Lord does
make him your Lord, and it does not save us. To be water-baptised does not save us. Nor does a touch of
the Spirit, (the call of God only), touted as the baptism of Holy Spirit save us. They do not guarantee that
we will live forever or make us a son of God. No believing/baptised "saved", "always saved." Salvation is
not instant. Salvation is a process. To be reborn, we first have to die. You have to lose you life to save it.
The true baptism of the Holy Spirit, the only one needed, circumcises the heart, by plunging down sin
and iniquity, and puts off the body of death and sins of the flesh so that we are without sin; a baptism
into the death of Christ, resulting in him being resurrected in us to be ruler of our words and actions.

Jesus said he would reject many, who thought they were Christians, but who stilled sinned. They had
not made him their Lord in practice, who controls their lives in their actions and words; he doesn't
know them to be his subjects as their ruling Lord. They say Jesus is Lord with their lips, but keep him
far removed from their hearts to really be their Lord and King. But in vain they do worship me, teaching
for doctrines the commandments of men. Mat 15:9. To make him Lord, he has to first cleanse us of our
sinful nature that is unruly; until he cleanses us, we are a slave to sin, (Away from me, you evildoers!),
and incapable of being subject to him as your Lord or King.

If any will come after me, let him deny himself,

and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23

And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my
disciple. Luke 14:27

Those who belong to Christ Jesus

have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24
Go

Is there HOPE for ALL?

We trust in the living God,

who is the Saviour of all men,
specially of those that believe.
1 Tim 4:9-10 King James Version

Text in light blue or bold light blue can be clicked on - to take you to the scriptural verse or other writings that confirms the text.

The scripture above confirms what I have heard the Father, in his presence, say and explain to me. There
is Hope for All. All will be reconciled to God, either in this life through the unpleasant purification
process of crucifixion of the lusts and affections, (that the deficit sects know little about), or in the next
life's more painful purification process, called Hell. All will be saved. All will be reconciled to one by
Christ to God.

(For more on purification in this life, see How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God .)

Jesus said few would be saved, for the gate is narrow and the way is difficult; many would seek
to enter and be unable. Mat 7:13-14, Luke 13:23-24. So what happens to the vast majority of people, including
2 billion (few?) people claiming to be 'christians,' who don't produce fruit, become purified, reach a
sinless state, and enter the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth? Are they doomed to everlasting
punishment in Hell? A God, who tortures the vast majority of humanity forever, is a sick twisting of
the scriptures to make our Father of light, mercy, compassion, and love into a monster; any person of
reason finds this twisted concept of God repulsive. This false concept of an unforgiving, eternally
punishing God serves to turn masses of people away from Christ and God; it is the devil's doctrine and
tool. Should we fear God? Oh, Yes! We should fear his displeasure; like a good parent, (but infinitely
better than a human), he will discipline and punish us for the things we continue to do wrong - but to
a purpose - to teach us, change us, and to reconcile us to himself in love. God is Love. Love
corrects. Love disciplines. But Love restores. Love never fails. Do you honestly think God created us so
he could punish and torture us forever? If you do, you have grossly underestimated his power,
his forethought, his mercy, his kindness, his compassion, and most of all - his LOVE. The purpose of life
is to find God, and his purpose will not be thwarted. He values every life. We are his creation, and he
loves all of us. We all are one. Every person you see will eventually be your brother, reconciled to God,
after being purified with removal of our lusts, affections, selfishness, addictions, and pride.

To live in heaven, you must be purified: either in this life with less pain and a greater reward,
or purified in the next life, called Hell. Neither is a pleasant experience; to die to self is not pleasant.

Sinners cannot live in heaven with God, or heaven would turn into Hell. We all have to be purified to live
in God's presence and to live in perfect harmony and love with our brothers. A common belief is that
all fleshly Christians still sinning will be instantly purified in the last minute of their lives, to then live
in heaven. This is wrong because God will never take away our free will; and if he purifies us without
our having learned to loathe and hate our selfish habits and addictions, once instantly purified, we
would drift back into the same patterns of selfish behaviors that cause us to embrace sin. So in this life
or the next, we have to: 1) discover the bitterness of the passions and pleasures that our hearts desire, and
2) over time suffer the consequences of our passions and pleasures, while longing to have them removed
by desperately seeking the grace of God to be changed. In Hell, our passions are unrestrained, similar
to how we are without restraint to lusts and violence in our dreams. For our passions are the worst
of tyrants. When we are placed so that we are entirely given up to them, they will torment the heart,
and, like a torrent, sweep all before them, and yet never be satisfied. We must discover that true liberty is
to be found only in him, whose truth shall set us free, and who shall lead us to understand only in
noble actions (serving him) are we really free. In this way, when our heart's defects are removed, one at
a time, we are certain not to return to sin in our free wills. Love never forces its own way, instead it helps
us see the error of the wrong way, so we can choose the right way; and then rewards us with the grace
of change, finally resulting in purity.

Purification on earth is much easier than purification in Hell; purification in Hell is a horrible,
obsessive experience to be avoided if at all possible. A description of Hell from Him to me, to be relayed
to you is: "a lot of pain with unexpected love." For ALL will be reconciled to God. All will be
saved. Your life in heaven will be far more rewarding if you attain purification while on earth. But, even
if you have to pass through Hell, your resulting life will be much better than life on earth. So there
is HOPE FOR ALL! More on Hell later. But first lets look at how the Bible shows Hope for All:

Luke 3:6
And all mankind will see God's salvation. New International
And all flesh shall see the salvation of God. King James
And all mankind shall see (behold and understand and at last acknowledge) the salvation of
God (the deliverance from eternal death decreed by God). Amplified

1 Timothy 2:5-6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as
a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

1 John 2:2
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 1:29
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the
sin of the world!

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22

Romans 11:7-33
What then [shall we conclude]? Israel failed to obtain what it sought. Only the elect (those chosen
few) obtained it, while the rest of them became callously indifferent (blinded, hardened, and
made insensible to it).
Lest you be self-opinionated (wise in your own conceits), I do not want you to miss this hidden truth
and mystery, brethren: a hardening (insensibility) has befallen a part of Israel until the full number of
the ingathering of the Gentiles has come in,
And so all Israel will be saved. As it is written, The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will
banish ungodliness from Jacob.
And this will be My covenant (My agreement) with them when I shall take away their sins.
From the point of view of the Gospel (good news), they [the Jews, at present] are enemies [of God], which
is for your advantage and benefit. But from the point of view of God's choice (of election, of divine
selection), they are still the beloved (dear to Him) for the sake of their forefathers.
For God's gifts and His call are irrevocable.
Just as you were once disobedient and rebellious toward God but now have obtained mercy, through
their disobedience,
So they also now are being disobedient, that they in turn may one day, through the mercy you
are enjoying, receive mercy.
For God has consigned (penned up) all men to disobedience, only that He may have mercy
on them all.
Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unfathomable
(inscrutable, unsearchable) are His judgments (His decisions)! And how untraceable
(mysterious, undiscoverable) are His ways (His methods, His paths)!

Col 1:16-20
16 For it was in Him that all things were created, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things
unseen, whether thrones, dominions, rulers, or authorities; all things were created and exist through
Him and in and for Him. (Christ is Him)
17And He Himself existed before all things, and in Him all things consist (cohere, are held together).
18He also is the Head of [His] body, the church; seeing He is the Beginning, the Firstborn from among
the dead, so that He alone in everything and in every respect might occupy the chief place [stand first and
be preeminent].
19For it has pleased [the Father] that all the divine fullness (the sum total of the divine perfection,
powers, and attributes) should dwell in Him permanently.
20And God purposed that through by the service, the intervention of Him all things should
be completely reconciled back to Himself, whether on earth or in heaven, as through Him,
made peace by means of the blood of His cross.

It is written in the Prophets, They will all be taught by God.John 6:45

He will swallow up death. And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces; and the reproach
of His people He will take away from off all the earth; for the Lord has spoken it. Isaiah 25:8

Declare what is to be, present it - let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared
it from the distant past?
Was it not I, the LORD ? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none
but me.

Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.

By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.

They will say of me, 'In the LORD alone are righteousness and strength. All who have
raged against him will come to him and be put to shame. Isaiah 45:21-25

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying,
my counsel shall sand, and
I will do all my pleasure... I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it,
I will do it. Isaiah 46:10-11.
Don't doubt what he says he will do; it will be done.

Notice: ALL men and women bowing, confessing, and declaring the Lord righteous. The last thing
the Lord would want is someone to lie and falsely say something they did not understand or feel. He is
not dishonest, nor does he want people to be dishonest with Him. Rather, everyone will be convinced
and will gladly bow and gladly swear and gladly say, "In the Lord alone are righteousness and strength;"
any other way would not be His. And later it is further said, "every knee will bow and every tongue
will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father; to call someone Lord, means they
have made Him their Lord, not under threat or force.

All must come to a knowledge of God. Voice of the Lord

Everyone must stop sinning. Voice of the Lord

Now, let's look at what George Fox said about All, (his words agree with scriptures above).

From George Fox's Letter 216

And then is the gospel, that is everlasting, preached unto all nations of mankind, and all that are driven
out from God in the power of darkness;
to the intent that they may all come up again to God,
and have life and immortality brought to light by his Almighty power, that expels death
and darkness.

So bring them to the great sacrifice, the Lord Jesus Christ, the seed of the woman,
who offered up himself for the sin of the world, the top stone, which is over all laid,
who is restoring by his power, who has all power in heaven and earth,
who is restoring all things into the place, as they were in the beginning,
and reconciling in one, by his power, all things in heaven and things in earth,
destroying that which made the separation, and broke unity, which is the enmity in people's minds,
which the light, that enlightens everyone that comes into the world, destroys:

From George Fox's Letter 222

all things in heaven, and things in earth, must bow to the name of Jesus,
before they be reconciled to God;
for all things in heaven, and things in earth, are reconciled by him in one.

From George Fox's Letter 320

For all being dead in old earthly Adam, Christ, the heavenly Adam has tasted death for them all,
and is a propitiation for the sins of the whole world,
and he enlightens all, and his grace has appeared unto all,
and his spirit is poured upon all flesh, and his gospel, which is the power of God, is preached to
every creature under heaven.

Philippians 2:10-11
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and
things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
(to confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, means that everyone makes him Lord of their life - their
controlling spirit within them - in love, peace, and joy)

1 Timothy 4:9-10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God,
who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
(This should end any doubt that all are saved. The Savior of ALL men and women; and for those
who believe, even greater is the result.)

More on Hell as part of the saving of all men:

(A lot of pain with unexpected love.)

1 Cor 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Each man shall eventually be saved by passing through the lake of fire, a purifying but very
painful experience. You will have nothing to show for the time you spent on earth. All will have been
wasted and for nothing.

Luke 12:47-48
And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his
will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For
unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed
much, of him they will ask the more.
Notice some receive less quantity of stripes, (figure of speech, describing punishment), than others
- defining less time of pain - defining an end to pain - defining an end to Hell for an individual; the time
in the fire based what they did while on earth. And how does one get out of Hell? by long, long pleading
to the Lord Jesus Christ, (the savior of all men) to purify them, after the last penny, ( figure of
speech describing penalty), has been paid.... Everyone will be taught of God. Every knee will bow
and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

But, people who don't find holiness in this life "shall be punished with everlasting destruction from
the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" 2 Th 1:9. Notice he does not
say destruction of life or torture, just from the presence of the Lord and the glory of his power - that is
the eternal punishment. There is the Kingdom of Heaven, and the heaven after hell, but a heaven
isolated from the presence and glory of the Lord.

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to
destroy both soul and body in hell. Mat 10:28. The Him is God. Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour
of his judgment has come; and worship him that made heaven, and earth, Rev 14:7.

Those not purified, loose their souls and go to Hell, but the spirit lives forever and eventually leaves Hell to
a much better life than earth. To lose your soul is to lose that part of God within every man, Christ the
Light, that could have been united with the fullness of Christ, to have become a Son of God.

The soul having been united with Christ, then lives in a higher dimension of love and Life than to live
in spirit only. The Lord names this reward "the kingdom of God;" it is a reward that is beyond
man's imagination, beyond the words of earth to describe.

Everyone will deeply regret forever that they did not obtain purification while living on earth, for
two reasons: 1) the pain of Hell, that will seem like forever, and 2) the loss of their soul with the eternal
loss of the kingdom. Those with the deepest regrets will be those who called themselves Christians, had
the promise before their eyes continually, and who did not seek the righteousness of God and his
Kingdom as their highest priority in life - those who thought Jesus was an excuse for sin rather than He
who would destroy the sin in them - those who ignored his command to be perfect as your Father in
heaven in perfect - those who were content to live in their flesh, worshiping in the false church of Babylon.

What you may not know is that you are now living on the earth in a cursed existence, the curse of
Adam's fall, cut off from union with God; everything is relative. So your life can be better than earth
after Hell, but nothing like it could have been; and you will see those who are enjoying the
higher dimension; therefore, even after Hell, you will be continually aware that you live in a
comparative state of punishment.
Yes, there is a Hell. It is very uncomfortable, to say the least. It is not like Dante's inferno. It is not
physical fire and brimstone; these are physical symbols of the spiritual, for example: "Our God is
a consuming fire." Heb 12:29. There is also a burning within you to do something; the burning of lust,
as described in Romans 1:27, but in a burning intensity greater than you have ever known. It is
raging obsession. It is hyper sin city - complete mutual rage, complete mutual lust, etc. The
brimstone, sulphur, (when burned sulphur produces sulphur dioxide, used for purification and
bleaching), symbolizes a spiritual purification agent. I was taken there because I prayed, sincerely
doubting there was a Hell. This is what I felt and saw:

1) I was in a cavern underground. It was totally dark. I knew I was being hunted by someone else. I
knew I was hunting him. It was kill or be killed. There was a lot of fear and adrenalin. Suddenly it was
light, and in front of me was the person I was hunting and who had been hunting me. We clubbed
each other frantically. The light went out. I was in a cavern underground. It was totally dark. I knew I
was being hunted ........ a loop that I felt like was going to go on forever.

2) I was then immediately transferred to a lighted cavern, escorted, with hallways and rooms off to the
side. In each room was a nude woman and a bed. The only woman I saw was still somewhat attractive,
but looked very tired and used to the point that her skin was beginning to dry and ripple slightly. I
knew, without having to participate, that this was perpetual sex with someone in each room. I knew
that this would go on, over and over and over and would at least seem like "forever." It was not
appealing. It was not sickening. It just was. That was the end of my experience in Hell. It was enough
to convince me it was real.

The Lord once told me "if one man's sin can curse the whole human race, then how much
more just is it for one man's righteousness to pay for the sins of the whole world."
Sounds logical doesn't it? HE IS LOGICAL. And the scriptural proof of his statement to me is:

Well then, as one man's trespass [one man's false step and falling away led] to condemnation for all
men, so one Man's act of righteousness [leads] to acquittal and right standing with God and
life for all men. Romans 5:18

In the presence of the Father, I was told by Him: "every man and woman is precious; every
person will be brought back to Him in reconciliation; every word spoken, every action
taken by everyone leads them to God." I could see and feel the infinite wisdom of God and how
all ways led to God; and I could see and understand how this life was an illusion because it was nothing
but a way to God for each and all; it was overwhelming; it was the greatest experience of my life to date.
I could only see a cloud, but I could feel his mighty streams of power; it was like stepping into a strong
river of wisdom, seeing clearly the infinite truth, logic, and reality of everything he told me. I also found
the Father to be full of joy, happy, forgiving, and in control beyond what we can at best imagine. What
we are learning in this life, all of us, will eventually lead each of us back to God - some obviously a
longer, more difficult process than others.

But don't make the mistake of thinking that since you're going to make it anyway, you might as well
practice as much evil as possible. Your efforts to live according your understanding of what is required
of you will be to your credit. Learning that giving is more satisfying than receiving, learning that
kindness feels good, learning that telling the truth, (regardless of the feared consequences), is always
the best, learning to control your anger, learning to treat others as you would have them treat you,
learning to be happy with whatever you have, learning the value of marital fidelity, learning that
forgiveness and mercy free the mind - learning and practicing these will minimize your purification time
in Hell. Many stripes for some, fewer for others.

Curiously, this is confirmed by the visions of St. Julian of Norwich, who was assured by God: "Sin
is behovely, but all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well."
Julian's theology was optimistic, speaking of God's love in terms of joy and compassion as opposed to
law and duty. For Julian, suffering was not a punishment that God inflicted, but was a means he used
to draw us closer to himself. She also found God to be happy and full of joy, optimistic, confident, and
in control.

(You may be asking yourself: why is this information just being disclosed? Answer: the eternal Hell
Fire damnation talk has become so loud and damaging to thinking souls, in its inherent unfairness, that
He that felt it necessary to remind us of His value, love, and mercy for all men and women, proved by
the many scriptures quoted herein, which we have forgotten and cast aside. The true sheep are
being scattered by the Hell Fire damnation talk.)

Now for that special case of children - how much purification is necessary for an infant? Any? No!
How much purification is necessary for a five year old? Certainly, is it not logical that purification
of children is much simpler than someone who has lived 50 years of mistakes, habits, lusts, and affections?
When talking about judgment, Jesus said in Matthew 7:22-23: "Many will say to me in that day, Lord,
Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name
done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me,
you that work iniquity." Obviously these people, who thought they were Christians, called him Lord;
and they had enough faith that he was the son of God to perform wonderful works, thinking themselves
to be in his name. Where is their fruit resulting from purity? Can you imagine how betrayed these
people will feel. They will likely be angry. They will likely feel resentment and mistrust of Jesus.
Their purification will probably take longer than the 'sinners' because of their anger and resentment;
and the 'sinners' will finish purification and enter heaven first, and the 'saved' will finish purification
and enter heaven last. So the last will be first, and the first will be last. And if they are teachers or
preachers, not perfected and authorized by Christ, and therefore having been teaching in error, their time
in Hell will be even longer, for the blood of those they have misled will be on their heads; and
blackest darkness is reserved for them. This scripture was already being fulfilled in Christ's time on
the earth: the tax collectors and prostitutes were already entering the Kingdom ahead of the
eminent Pharisees - those thought to be last were before those thought to be first. The person who has
the least esteem of himself can hear the call to repentance the clearest. The last can hear the call
to repentance; the first are deaf in their self-righteousness, (or their imputed righteousness from
Christ, which supposedly excuses them from repentance and the cross of Christ).

Do not confuse this with the "purgatory" that the Roman and Greek sects have defined. Everyone who is
not purified enters Hell, regardless of religious profession. There is no prayer or contribution that
can hasten their exit. George Fox has said, do not pray for the dead; they have had their time when
prayer could help them. And sacrifices for the dead are forbidden by scripture.

Neither should this teaching be ammunition for universalists, because to escape the purification of Hell
and save your soul, you must find the straight and narrow way that few will find. A faith in Jesus Christ
that produces fruit is the only way to salvation of the soul; there is no other way. If you loose your soul,
you will live in spirit only - a lower dimension of heaven - and only after a long and painful
purification experience in Hell. You will regret forever your failure to seize the opportunity of
salvation while on the earth.

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and this is of necessity to salvation; and not temporary, but continual: there must be a
"dying daily."
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him, Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with
him. Col 2:12

Jesus said he would reject many, who thought they were Christians, but who still sinned. If he rejects
people who name themselves Christians, though he loves people of all faiths, he will also reject those
of other faiths or no faith too. A total change of heart is necessary.

You cannot depend on your righteousness and 'salvation' from reading scriptures about grace and faith.
If and when you are righteous, Christ will tell you so! When you are assured of salvation, he will tell you
"I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut." The receipt of salvation and the entering
the Kingdom are simultaneous. Depend on nothing else, except his spoken words to you!
Remember Jesus said, "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance;" because
the righteous cannot hear his call to repentance, yesterday and today! The righteous think they need to
do nothing; they even say repentance and the cross is "works" and to do any work related to salvation
would disqualify their false salvation based on 'grace' - so they can't hear his call to
repentance, especially if they are busy in a form of religious practices: bible study, attending
services, tithing, singing, reading from a prayer book, eating wine and bread, water baptisms, speaking
in 'tongues.' He told me: "It is hard for those wrapped up in a form to see repentance to
the truth." It was hard yesterday; it is hard today. See Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself for seeking
His righteousness.

We know that there is some form of life in Hell, otherwise pain would not be felt. If all are to be placed
in right standing with God and life, after Hell is heaven. It is better than earth, but no where near the Life
we can attain if we become purified and attain the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth, (perhaps the
"third Heaven" of which Paul spoke in 2 Cor 1:2). The attainment here is relatively free from
pressure, relatively free from compulsion, free from the intensity of the experience in Hell. Here we
can choose thousands of times a day what we want to do. There, (in Hell), there is little choice - only
an obsession to do the things you have harbored in repetitive intensity so much that they become
repulsive; and finally you choose to risk sacrifice of your life remaining rather than continue --
thus shunning evil, hating evil, and being so sick of evil that you live happily ever after serving love - but in
a diminished state than if you had chosen to shun, hate, and eschew evil while on earth. The
diminished state and the higher state have been described to me as "living in different dimensions."
In the old testament, only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies in the temple; those who
produce fruit in this life become kings and priests, in the presence of the Lord and in the glory of
his power forever, serving Him. Revelation describes heaven as the temple of God and an
outward court. The temple of God is for the spiritual Jew, those whose hearts were circumcised while
on earth; they serve and worship God as priests and kings in the temple of God, which is the Lord
God Almighty and the Lamb (Christ). Stephen Crisp, an eminent early Quaker minister said: The
outward court was for representing the church of God in general, from the particular; the outward
court was not measured, that the gentiles might come in; the unbaptized [did not have the baptism
of death by fire, resulting in a circumcised heart] people, who were never regenerated, they might come
so far as the outward court, but this did not entitle them to the privileges of the house of God, nor to
any worship or sacrifice that was accepted upon God's altar. But those who were not
purified (regenerated) on earth do not enter the outer court until they have been purified in Hell.

Again, the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Tim 4:9-10

Purity on earth is not a pleasant experience for it involves suffering through tribulation and a
fiery ordeal, (the Ministry of Condemnation, in which your schoolmaster is the Law of Sin and
Death, after which comes the Ministry of Life), but Hell is far worse; it is to be avoided at all costs. It is
truly Hell. It will feel like forever in the first 2 minutes. It will go on and on and take on as many
different forms as you have addictions. Your addictions are not apparent to you now. Even if you like to
read about or watch programs about violence or sex, you are addicted far more than you realize.
Those addictions are destroyed, not by reading, but by doing. One could say, you get the desires of
your heart, but in an avalanche of mass quantity/repetition. It is truly a burn-out experience. You
must arrive at the state where all addictions are repulsive to you and you automatically shun them.
So, whatever your pleasures, they will be hyper-driven until repulsive. In Alcoholics Anonymous, they
refer to an alcoholic's bottoming-out experience; to wake up one day in the gutter and say to
yourself, ENOUGH - I'VE HAD IT, resolving to reform with the higher help available by faith in the name
of Jesus Christ. Similar will be the case in Hell; you will be driven to a bottoming-out experience in
every lust and affection you have.

Then will they call upon me but I will not answer; they will seek me early and diligently but they will
not find me.
Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the reverent and worshipful fear of the Lord,
Would accept none of my counsel, and despised all my reproof,
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way and be satiated with their own
devices.
For the backsliding of the simple shall slay them, and the careless ease of fools shall destroy them. Pro
1:28-32

The heaven of the Vikings, Valhalla, was where they rode out every day to do battle to the death, and
then returned to a drunken feast. Perhaps that is exactly what they got, until they got sick to death of
it. Become aware of you desires; face them; know you are a slave to you passions, pleasures, habits,
pride, and lusts.

And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever; the memory of the suffering and pain in
Hell will never be forgotten. There will be weeping; there will be gnashing of teeth; there will be
suffering; but not forever, and to a purpose - until they are reconciled by Love to God.

One person wrote me telling me how it was impossible for God to place people in a position to sin to
their hearts' desire, stating that I was trying to make God evil. I say God can easily place you into a
dream state where you are put into extreme conditions to play to your heart's inclinations, thinking
and feeling just like it is reality - but it is not actually happening. Except, in this state, you can't wake up,
and the state lasts until you become totally sick of the sin.

Our dreams are a preview of what hell can be like. When I was in my junior year in college, I acted
very irresponsibly, cutting all my 8AM classes; only going to opening day and then the mid-term and
final exam. My grades suffered. After graduation, for thirty years I had a recurring nightmare of being
late for my mid-term exams and unable to remember in which rooms the classes were held. This dream
and my desperation continued, until finally in this nightmare, I concluded that I was not being fair to
my mother by cutting classes; she was paying her hard-earned money to send me to college, and I
was wasting it. So, in my dream I resolved to quit college and get a job; I never had the nightmare
again. Perhaps you have had a similar experience. The Spirit of God wrestles with us, trying to get us
to discover the error of our ways. Whatever mistakes we have made in this life, unless we resolve
them before we leave this planet, we will have to resolve them in Hell - and we will be obsessed to
repeat them, until we finally sicken of them so much, we decide to do the right thing, whatever
the consequences. This is a hard way to learn; far harder than with the kindness of the Spirit of God to
show us in the Light the forgotten and secret sins of our heart, and to then take them away.
A wise man once said: "to become wise, one must first acknowledge they are ignorant."
Unless you know that you are a slave to sin, you will never get free.
So the first step to freedom from sin is to look at your slavery.
From the voice of the Lord: "Those who refuse to look at their slavery say,
church me."
It comes down to a choice of how you want to live:
1) as a selfish human in slavery to your anger, pride, lusts, passions and pleasures with no
lasting satisfaction, or
2) would you rather be dedicated to purpose of actions and words that are pure, true, noble,
clean, peaceful, joyful,
beneficial to others around you, and full of love for your creator - while in union with your creator
in his Kingdom-
with him loving and treasuring you in return, to your eternal satisfaction?

The pressures of attaining purity on earth are so great that when some have been "convinced"
and "condemned" (having entered the Ministry of Condemnation), they can become so tired and weary
that they don't have the strength to go on; they then "fall asleep" in Christ, (they die, but while in
Christ because they had undergone supernatural suffering). But they are the first to be translated at
the Lord's next coming as said in 1 Thes 4:13-18, and then first purified. The infinite mercy and kindness of
the Lord takes them out of the world to protect them from evil and falling away, and to keep them safe
until their resurrection from the grave into Heaven. (This to me is wonderfully special because it says
that once someone enters into the Ministry of Condemnation, their salvation while on earth is assured;
what Love and Care He has for us -- to be sure we make it, even if we weaken under pressure. I don't think
I will ever know how great is our God - he is beyond our minds. But we know he is clean, pure,
logical, sensible, gentle, kind, merciful, fair, just, faithful and true beyond measure). Before you
conclude that the earth's pressures might be too much, don't forget that however great the pressures
on earth, those in Hell are far, far worse; and of course the rewards for attaining purity on earth are
beyond our imagination - as it is written: No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind
has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him. 1 Cor 2:9

The purpose of our life on earth is to arrive a the state where we hate evil so much that even when
tested under pressure, we refuse to take it up again. At this point we have arrived at Job's state
of "perfection":

Job 2:3 says, "And the Lord said unto Satan, 'Have you considered my servant Job,
that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and upright man,
one that fears God, and eschews (shuns, abhors) evil? and still he holds fast his integrity,
although you moved Me against him, to destroy him without cause'."

And if we do become one of "the first fruits" we will be kings ( a servant like Christ) and priests forever in
the close presence of God worshiping and serving Him, beholding His glory, and being like Him, being
one with Him, loving Him, and being loved by Him.

Not everyone can be kings, or we would all be trying to out-serve each other. I haven't been told exactly
what kings will be doing; in general, I know they will be forever growing in learning and love. My opinion
is that the vast group of people who do not attain purity on this earth will be served by those who
became kings and priests. If we are chosen, we can take no credit or pride; we are simply the beneficiaries
of his unmerited favor - grace. Those chosen were not chosen, because one day, all on their own merit,
they decided to seek God; no, God is the one who draws us to Him, and then he turns our salvation over
to Christ to produce to completion. Many are called, few are chosen. Those chosen have responded to
the call of God. Since there is no time with God, he knew ahead of time who would respond to his call
by their choice.

It is Christ's job to reconcile all things (which includes all of mankind) back to the Father. The relative
ease and comfort of attainment in this life, and the rewards available to those who attain purity
and reconciliation in this life, make the supreme effort to attain purity and the Kingdom in this life
only common sense. Prize your time, while you still have it available. Pray for the Father to motivate
you more by drawing you to Him while on earth. Offer Him your life-long best efforts in exchange for
his drawing you to Him. Doubting his existence, I once said such a prayer and he answered with an
indelible experience; an experience he has told me "anyone can have if they humbly
ask." (That experience created a hunger that motivated me for over 25 years.) He said in meditation to
my wife, "be the very best you can. . . . . for me!" (To His benefit as well as yours.)

To Repeat what is said elsewhere in this site: And to those of you who attain perfection; to those who
reach purity in this life; by you doing so, (producing fruit), you show yourself to be true followers of
Christ, and he then brings honor and glory to our Father. Is there anything else worth aspiring to do? For
if there is some way we can repay our Father for our breath, our heart beat, our life, our savior who
has paved the way for us, then that is the only thing to want - every other thing must take back seat to
the passion of bringing glory to the Son and the Father. As for me, knowing that I can possibly do this
for Christ and the Father, as insignificant as I am, I gladly dedicate my life to do so, and I am
eternally grateful for the opportunity. For with success, we become united with God, and we
operate according to God's purpose, will, and pleasure; and our pleasure is to have clean, pure, holy,
perfect purpose in our words and actions - to be a instrument in his hands totally dedicated to life of love.

The purpose of this site is to show you that it is possible, help you grasp the hope for yourself, and then
show you how to allow Jesus to purify you by grace for your subsequent entry into unity with Christ and
the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth. For more on how to get purified in this life, go to
the home page and then to How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God.

For if you live according to the flesh, you will surely die. But if through the power of the Spirit you
are putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the deeds prompted by the body, you shall live forever.
Rom 8:13

To those of you who want to argue that I have somehow misinterpreted the Bible scriptures quoted
above, which seem very clear and easy to understand to me, I will not argue with you. I won't respond.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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The light shines in the darkness,

but the darkness has not understood it.
John 1:5

He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness

and will expose the motives of men's hearts.
1 Cor 4:5

Believe in the light,

that ye may be the children of light.
John 12:36

Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.

Throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament are references to the Light. (Click to see
them). Today, this is the most misunderstood concept in christiandom, for christiandom is truly in
darkness and cannot comprehend the Light.

Jesus is the Light that enlightens all men that come into the world. He is the life, the light of all men.
The light is in each one of us, whether we have been 'saved' or not. The Light is what reasons with
us throughout our lives. The Light is what exposes what is hidden in our hearts. The Light is what we
either love or hate. If we are committed to truth, we love the Light and welcome the Light to show us how
to improve ourselves to be acceptable in His sight. If we are committed to our selfish nature, we run
and hide from the Light, or we try to extinguish the light, because we hate the Light. If you love the light, it
is your Teacher. If you hate the light, it is your condemnation.

Having the hope of purity, a sinless state, union with God, and entering the Kingdom of Heaven, we
seek God; (the true gospel).
To seek God, we silently wait on him, thinking on the name of Jesus; (the power his name).
As we hear commands or are shown our sinful nature, our obedience and repentance (the cross) is
rewarded with a change in our heart, removing a desire to a particular sin.

In the beginning, we only hear the voice, the sure word of prophecy, listening to its teachings, obeying
its commands. Later the Light appears to show us the secrets of our heart, but in a kind way, that helps
us regret our conditions, and leads us to repent from them.

It is theoretically possible for someone who has never heard of Christ, the gospel, or the cross to
attain salvation by complete obedience to the Light within their conscience. The Lord has even told me
he will reveal himself to people from other religions who seek the Light; but unfortunately, they
typically reject him because of loyalty to their faith, or because of the poor record of people who
call themselves Christians. Whoever lives in an area where the record of Christ is known, to seek
salvation without acknowledgement of Christ would violate Christ's own statement: If any man desires to
do His will (God's pleasure), he will know (have the needed illumination to recognize, and can tell
for himself) whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking from Myself and of My own
accord and on My own authority. John7:17

Just as God sent Jesus to the Jews, to either be accepted or rejected, so he has given to each of us the
Light within, to either be accepted of rejected. Our conscience tells us we have been wrong when we lie
or steal. The Light of our conscience, has been quietly reasoning with us all of our life, gently pleading
for goodness. Our challenge is to become wholly directed in word and action by the Word and Light,
Christ, within us.

Many of the early Quakers have written records on this site about their experience with the Light's
reproving of sin and evil in them, early in their youth. In my youth I can remember at least one
experience where the Light was reproving me; as convincing as it was, I was clueless at to its origin
and ignored its advice, continuing on my course of error. Had I been taught in my youth to expect God
to reprove me periodically, I would have probably recognized the source and would have been far
more attentive. This leads me to question what kind of world we would live in if we were taught at an
early age to expect the convincing reproofs of God. The world might be a much better place.

This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because
their deeds were evil.
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will
be exposed.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done
has been done through God. John 3:19-21

Until we have received the Light's teaching or conviction as coming from Christ, we have not received Christ.

God is at peace with us through the sacrifice of Jesus that has paid for our sinful past - forgiveness.

● We have the power to become (not be) and live forever as a son God just by believing in the name of Jesus.
● We must exercise that power by making our first priority in life to seek the Kingdom of God and
His righteousness.
● Through repentance, prompted by grace, we must kill our sinful nature by the Spirit to please God and
find salvation.
● We have assurance of salvation to come when we are led (controlled) by the Spirit of God.

the role of the Light is key to repentance, deadening our sinful nature, becoming led by the Spirit,
finding the Kingdom, and attaining His righteousness.

Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go
to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

But let me be very clear: For waiting in the light to be of lasting benefit, you must believe that purity
is possible through the light; and to attain union with God, you must believe that the promise of
the Kingdom of God applies to you while alive. Per William Penn, "But then you must seek aright, with
your whole heart, as men that seek for their lives, yes, for their eternal lives: diligently, humbly, patiently,
as those that can taste no pleasure, comfort, or satisfaction in anything else, unless you find him whom
your souls want, and desire to know and love above all." For you can sit, waiting on the light with no
clear objective, nor dedication of purpose, and predominantly receive nothing but visions and voices
of deceiving spirits. For the power of God is only released by belief in the true gospel, the cross, his
name, and the fellowship.

There are three manifestations of the power of God which are necessary for change:

1. the name of Jesus, (you have to at least believe in the power of his name, as the son of God).
2. the true gospel - the good news that one believes, seizes as their hope, and exercises in faith to attain, and
3. the cross of Christ - the inward cross of self-denial

For more understanding on the necessity of learning in silence,

see George Fox's outstanding writing on Why Silence? (also on the side bar)

When we get quiet in private, and wait on the Lord, we hear his living Word (Christ) speak to us; and we
are shown our condition by the Light (Christ, who gives light to every man that comes into the world).
We are taught by the spiritual anointing (the Spirit of God was poured out on all men at Pentecost) within:

But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you, and you do not need not any man to
teach you: but as
the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you,
you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; (love, peace, joy, patience, gentleness, kindness,
etc. Gal 5:22-23)
for without Me you can do nothing. John 15:5. Works without God's Love in us count for
nothing. 1 Cor 13:3.
To produce fruit, is to possess God's love; then your works are faith expressing itself
through love. Gal 5:6
Abiding is the key to success as a Christian. Studying the Bible only tells us what we must achieve and avoid.
To know the truth, you have to be taught by Jesus himself, personally, about himself. His living words
must abide in you.
To abide in Christ, is to abide in his Light, in his presence, in his living word, (not read the Bible).

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is
light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepiest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give
thee light. Ephesians 5:13-14

Search me , O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts!

And see if there is any wicked or hurtful way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Psalm 129:23-4

That which shows him his sins, and troubled him for them, would show him his salvation;
for he who shows a man his sin, is the same who takes it away. George Fox

You have set our iniquities before You, Our secret sins in the light of Your countenance. Psa 90:8

Jesus, the Light who walked the earth, but who is also in all men as Light, is described by John:

In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness
has not understood it. John 1:4-5

The true light that gives light to every man that comes into the world. John 1:9

This is the message we have heard from him and declare: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
1 John 1:5

I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of
life. John 8:12

I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in
darkness. John 12:46

Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble. 1 John 2:10

He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. 1
Cor 4:5
While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. John 12:36
While in the Light, as it shows you the condition and motives of your heart,
believe in the light that the light is Christ, who is the Light;
and being obedient to the Light, you may become children of the Light.
For in Christ is the Life, the Light of all men. And God is Light.

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood
of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. 1 John 1:7

Now from George Fox's Journal:

For I saw that Christ had died for all men, was a sacrificial offering for all, and had enlightened all
men and women with his divine and saving light; and that none could be true believers,
but those that believed in the light. I saw that the grace of God, which brings salvation, had
appeared to all men, and that the manifestation of the spirit of God was given to every man, with which
to profit. These things I did not see by the help of man, nor by the letter, though they are written in the
letter; but I saw them in the light of the Lord Jesus Christ, and by his immediate spirit and
power, as did the holy men of God by whom the holy scriptures were written. Yet I had no
slight esteem of the holy scriptures, they were very precious to me; for I was in that spirit by which they
were issued; and what the Lord opened in me, I afterwards found was in agreement with them.

Believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. John 12:36
So, we must believe in the Light to be a "true believer."

This is how such belief occurs:

Christ is the Light that enlightens every man that comes into the world (John 1:9).
So Christ is the Light, that shows you your condition, and is the Word that speaks to you with
commands and understandings.
The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach). Rom 10:8
So we go to him and listen for His voice and watch for what He shows us about ourselves and what is in
our heart.
If you love the Light and Word as Christ, you repent from anything evil shown to you, and you are
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changed for the better.
Loving the Word and Light that shows you your condition, you are acknowledging this Teacher within
you as Christ.
You have "received" the Light and acknowledged the Light to be Christ. Therefore, you believe in
the Light.
Just like when Christ asked Peter, "whom do you say I am," and Peter replied: 'You are Christ, the Son of
the Living God.'
Christ then said: Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by
my Father in heaven.
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hades will
not overcome it. Mat 16:15-8
- the rock solid understanding that he who speaks to you is the Son of God, which the gates of Hell
cannot prevail against.
Now look what Jesus further says about how rock solid applies to us:
For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will
show you what he is like:
He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock;
and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move it,
because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48
He builds his Church on a rock solid foundation. He builds himself in you on a rock solid foundation.
If you go to Him (within you), listen to his words, and then obey them, you have identified the speaker
as Christ -
just like Peter did in the physical realm, except your identification of Christ is in the spiritual realm
within you.
Paul said: According to the grace (the special endowment for my task) of God bestowed on me, like a
skillful architect and master builder I laid [the] foundation, and now another [man] is building upon it.
But let each [man] be careful how he builds upon it. 1 Cor 3:10
The correct foundation is very important and key to your potential growth. Your foundation will come
from Christ himself.
Notice he says comes to me, (not Bible study, not Bible reading, Him), listen to his words (not listen
to someone reading the Bible), and do whatever he tells you to do. This is personal teaching by the
Teacher, Christ. When you really believe that, who you hear speaking to you, is Christ, you have
just accepted him; you have acknowledged and received him. And he says, this results
in building the true foundation, that will not be shaken or moved, nor can the gates of
Hell prevail against us as we exit. And from those who have this true foundation, he builds his Body
of Christ, his true Church, of true believers who recognize him within them to be the Son of God.
Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27
So to receive Christ and become a true believer, we must privately get quiet, think on the name of Jesus,
and then listen and watch. Then we must believe the words we hear and conditions shown by the Light to
be from Christ; and believing they are from Christ, we repent or obey what we are told to do; thus we
have become a true believer. Until this happens, we have only believed and had faith in the historical
record of Christ; whether from the Bible or the history books. Such faith is not of a true believer.
NOW the scriptures that say, "everyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God will be saved"
take on an entirely different meaning. To believe, is to listen to the Teacher himself and obey
his instructions as coming from the Son of God himself, the living Word of God, the Light -
within you!
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the
Gentiles;
which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom;
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: Col 1:26-28
Even the demons called Jesus 'Son of the Most High God,' falling down at his feet, worshiping him,
and begging him to have mercy. Luke 8:28 4:41 3:11 Mark 5:6-7 Mat 8:29 But they did not call him Lord, and they
did not voluntarily obey him from love. When we obey his commands, which we are not forced to do; we,
by loving him, make him Lord of our life. We seek, listen, and obey his teachings because we love the
Light and Living Word as Christ, the Son of God. Thus we are true believers, for we not only believe
by receiving the Son of God, but we obey what we hear and understand him tell us.
John said: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. 1 John 1:7
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify
us from all unrighteousness.
If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
1 John 1:8-10
When you examine these verses in lieu of the verses before and after these three, this is
the meaning:
We go to the Light (Jesus) to quietly listen and watch, hoping for purification by his blood and grace.
If we go without acknowledging that we are a sinner, we deceive ourselves, have no humility, and
get no help.
If when he (the Light) shows us our sins and we confess them, he will forgive and
purify us.
But, if when he (the Light) shows us our sins, we deny that we have sinned as he shows us,
thinking He is not the Truth, thinking whom we hear to be liar, we reject the Son of God, and we
fail to repent of our sins;
and His word fails to be planted in our heart, so that it can control us in the future.
But if we accept his conviction and Him [the Word or Light] as Truth, his word stays in
our heart to keep us from sin.
This is how we accept and "receive" Christ. We believe the Light that shows us our sins is Christ.
We believe in Jesus within.

Below are two of Isaac Penington's Works relating to the Light:

SOME PROPOSITIONS CONCERNING THE ONLY WAY OF SALVATION:

1. That there is no way of being saved from sin, and wrath eternal, but by that Christ alone who died
at Jerusalem. There is no name, virtue, life, or power under heaven given, by which lost man may be
saved, but his alone.

2. That there is no way of being saved by him, but through receiving him into the heart by a living
faith, and having him formed in the heart. Christ saves not as he stands without at the door knocking,
but as he is let in; and being let in, he brings in with him that life, power, and mercy, which breaks
down the wall of partition, unites to God, and saves. The Jews could not be saved formerly by the belief
of a Messiah to come, with the observation of all the laws and ordinances of Moses; nor can anyone
now be saved by the belief of a Christ who has historically come, with observation of all that the
apostles commanded or practiced; but only by the receiving him into your heart, where he works out
the salvation.

3. That there is no way of receiving Christ into the heart, and of having him formed there, but by
receiving the light of his spirit, in which light he is and dwells. Keep out the light of his spirit, keep out
Christ; let in the light of his spirit, let in Christ; for the Father and the Son are light, and are alone
known and received in the light; but never out of it.

4. That the way of receiving the light of the Spirit into the heart, (and thereby uniting with the Father,
and the Son), is by listening to, and receiving its convictions of sin there. The first operation of the
Spirit towards man lying in the sin, is to convince him of the sin; and he that receives not the
convincing light of the Spirit, the work is stopped in him at the very first; and Christ can never come to
be formed in him, because that light by which he should be formed is kept out. And then he may talk of
Christ, and practice duties, (pray, read, and contemplate much), and gather comforts from promises,
and run into ordinances, and be exceeding zealous and affectionate in all these, and yet perish in the
end. Yes, the devil will let him alone, (if not help him), in all this, knowing that he has him the surer by
this, he being, (by the strict observation of these), kept out of the fear of the danger of his condition,
which otherwise perhaps he might be made sensi1.ble of.

Objection: But I may be deceived in listening to a light within; for while I think that I therein listen to
the light of the Spirit, it may prove but the light of a natural conscience.

Answer: If it should be but the light of a natural conscience, and it draws you from sin, which separates
from God, and so prepared you for the understanding, believing, and receiving what the Scripture said
of Christ; this is not a very bad deceit; but if, in the result, it should prove to have been the light of the
spirit, and, you all your life-time, have taken it for the light of a natural conscience, (and so have
despised, or at least neglected, if not reproached it), you will then find that this was a very bad deceit.

2. I can show you by express scripture, that it is the work of the spirit to convince of sin. John 16:8. And
again, that the law, which is spiritual, manifests what is corrupt and carnal. Rom 7:14. But where can you
show me from scripture, that a natural conscience can convince of sin?

3. Let any man give heed to the light in his heart, he shall find it to discover his most inward, his most
secret, his most spiritual evils; which a natural light cannot do; for what is natural cannot discover
what is spiritual.
4. The apostle said, that it is the grace which has appeared to all men, which teaches not only godliness,
but also sobriety and righteousness. Titus 2:11-12. The light of the fallen nature is darkness, and can teach
nothing of God. What any man learns now of the true knowledge of God, he learns by grace, which
shines in the darkness of man's nature, to leaven it with the true knowledge; though man, being
darkness, can by no means comprehend it, and so cannot give it its true name.

THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF THE GOSPEL

"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto
you,
that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."
1 John 1:5

THIS was the message which Christ gave his apostles, to make way into men's hearts by: this is the first
thing that is proper for the mind to receive, which lies in the darkness; namely, that there is no
darkness in God, nothing but light. Darkness is excluded from him, and the mind that lies in darkness
cannot have union or fellowship with him. Therefore he that will be one with God, and partake of his
life, must come out of the darkness, which has no place with God, into the light where God is, and in
which he dwells.

The work of the Son is to reveal the Father, and to draw to the Father. He reveals him as light, as the
spring of light, as the fountain of light, and he draws to him as light. When he gave to his apostles the
standing message, by which they were to make him known to the world, and by which men were to
come into fellowship and acquaintance with him; this is it, "that God is light, and in him is no darkness
at all."

Christ Jesus, the Son of God, he is the image of his substance, the exact image of this light, the light of
the world, who is to light the world into this substance. So that as God the Father is to be known as
light, so Christ the Son also is to be known as light. He is the only begotten of the Father of lights, the
only image in which the eternal substance is revealed and made known. And he that receives this
image, receives the substance; and he that receives not this image, receives not the substance.

Now there is a breath or spirit from this substance, in this image, which draws to the image; thus the
Father draws to the Son; and the image again draws to the substance; thus the Son draws to the Father.
And so hearkening to this breath, the mind and soul is led out of the darkness, into the image of light ,
(which is the Son), and by the image into the substance: and here is the fellowship which the gospel
invites to. Joining to this breath, being transformed by this breath, living in this breath, walking in this
holy inspiration, there is a unity with the Father and the Son, who themselves dwell in this breath, from
whom this breath comes, in whom this breath is, and in whom all are, who are one with this breath.

This breath purges out the dark breath, the dark air, the dark power, the mystery of death and
darkness; and fills with the breath of light, with the breath of life, with the living power, with the holy,
pure mystery.

Now, as the Father is light, and the Son light; so this breath, this spirit which proceeds from them both,
is light also. And as the Father, who is light, can alone be revealed by the Son, who is light; so the Son,
who is light, can alone be revealed by the spirit, who is light.

He then who hears this message, that God is light; and feels himself darkness, and in darkness, and is
willing to be drawn out of the darkness into fellowship with God, who is light; this is requisite for him
to know; namely, how he may be drawn out, who is it that draws, and which are the drawings; that he
may not resist or neglect them, (waiting for another thing), and so miss of the true and only passage
unto life. Wherefore, observe this heedfully.

None can draw to the Father, but the Son; none can draw to the Son, but the Father: and both these
alone draw by the spirit. The Father, by his spirit, draws to the Son; the Son, by the same spirit, draws
to the Father: and they both draw by the spirit as he is light, as he is their light lighted to that end. For
as the Father is light, and the son is light; so that spirit which draws them must be light also. He is,
indeed, the breath of light, eternally lighted, to draw to the eternal image of light, and then to the
eternal substance, which eternally dwells in that eternal image.

Question: But how may I know the spirit, and its operations; that I may follow him, and be led by
them, both to the Son and to the Father; and so come into the everlasting fellowship?

Answer: The spirit is to be known by those motions and operations which are proper to him; which
flow alone from him, and from nothing else.
 Question: What are they?

Answer: Convincing of sin, and reproving for sin; which nothing can truly discover and reprove, but the
light of the spirit. Darkness cannot make manifest darkness, but whatsoever makes manifest is light.
All the discoveries of darkness, in the hidden world of the heart, are from Christ the sun of
righteousness, by his spirit, whatever name men may give it; who know not this sun, nor its light, nor
the true names of things in the light; but have named even the things of God in the dark, and according
to the dark apprehensions and conceptions of their own imaginary mind. But this I say to such, who are
so ready to beat their brains and dispute, leave contending about names; come to the thing, come to
that which reproves you in secret, follow the light that thus checks and draws; be diligent, be faithful,
be obedient; you shall find this lead you to that, which all your knowledge out of this, (even all that
which you call spiritual light), will never be able to lead you to.

And when you are joined to this light, it will show you him whom you have pierced, (even so as never
yet you saw him), and open a fresh vein of blood and grief in you, to bleed and mourn over him; and
work that repentance in you, which you never were acquainted with before; and teach you that faith to
which yet you are a stranger; and teach you that self-denial, which will reach to the very root of that
nature which yet lives; even under that, and by means of that, which you call spiritual light; and will lay
such a yoke on your neck, as the unrighteous one is not able to bear: yes, such an one as the hypocrite,
(which is able to hide it under confessions of sin, and forms of zeal, knowledge, devotion, and worship),
shall be daily tormented and wasted with. And then you shall know what it is to wait upon God in the
way of his judgments, and find the powers of life and death striving for your soul, and daily floods and
storms encompassing and attending you, under which you will assuredly fall and perish, unless the
everlasting arm of God's power be stretched out for you, and be continually redeeming you. And then
you will feel and see how sin is pardoned, and how it is bound; how death broke in upon Adam, and
how it daily breaks in upon mankind; and what that standard is, which the spirit of the Lord lifts up
against the powers of darkness. And then you will come clearly to perceive, how that which you have
called religion formerly, (which flowed not from this principle), has been but the invention of your own
imaginary mind , (though you fathered it upon the Scriptures, as most men do most of their inventions
about doctrine and worship), in which you have been in a dream of being changed, and yet remains still
the same in nature: and have had a name that you have lived, but are still dead; a name of being
sanctified, but still unclean; a name of being justified, but still condemned by the light in your own
conscience; which is one with him who is your judge, and who will judge according to it: and so, as that
which is real takes place in you, so that which has been but imaginary will pass away.

Isaac Penington

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23 If we believe Christ within, speaking to us to be Christ, then
we obey him. And if we obey him, with diligent seeking, we can't loose. Seek, listen, obey.. seek,
listen, obey... seek, listen, obey. He leads us to complete salvation; he leads our obedient selves
to purification; he leads us to the Kingdom - because we acknowledge Him and obey the captain of
our salvation. We only have to keep seeking his instruction and be obedient. He does the rest,
including taking us to paradise, the Kingdom of Heaven with everlasting peace, joy, and love. The
Father and Christ come in glory, to establish the glorified resurrected Christ in us; the home they make is
a Kingdom. His return, the Kingdom, and the completion of salvation are simultaneous. Believe in
the light, that ye may be the children of light. John 12:36

And when you receive the light the persecution really intensifies, just as it did with George Fox;
his temptations and opposition increased dramatically. Remember those earlier days after you had
received the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Heb 10:32

George Fox's record advises us that when you are shown something sad about yourself by the Light,
don't draw back; realize it is the Light showing you your condition, and He is doing this to help you be rid
of it and to become a better person; and that Christ has died for you so that you need not panic. Don't
think about all you will lose, and draw away, but remain to focus on the Light that shows you
your condition. Stand before the Son of Man. And then, just when you don't expect it, strength will
come; and whatever you have been shown, you will have strength to be different from then on. You may
not see the Light. You may only see what the light is showing you. That is all you need. If you can't see
the Light, just focus on the fact that the Light is showing you your condition. He told me, "If a vision
or understanding makes you sad, look at the cross." This is what George Fox called the first step to
peace; he also said this process, repentance in the Light, is "the cross."

This is how to kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members:
sexual vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is
idolatry (the deifying of self and other created things instead of God). Col 3:5.

As we grow through repentance, we get more light. Our darkness goes away and is replaced by light.

The Light explained, from William Penn's Introduction:

 The light of Christ within, who is the light of the world, and so a light to you, that light
tells you the truth of your condition, leads all that take heed unto it out of darkness into God's
marvelous light; for light grows upon the obedient. It is sown for the righteous, and their way is a
shining light that shines forth more and more to the perfect day.

For which reason, Oh friends, turn in, turn in, I beseech you! Where is the poison, there is the antidote:
there you want Christ, and there you must find him; and blessed be God, there you may find him. 'Seek
and you shall find,' I testify for God. But then you must seek aright, with your whole heart, as men that
seek for their lives, yes, for their eternal lives: diligently, humbly, patiently, as those that can taste no
pleasure, comfort, or satisfaction in anything else, unless you find him whom your souls want, and
desire to know and love above all. Oh! It is a travail, a spiritual travail! Let the carnal profane world
think and say as it will. And through this path you must walk to the city of God, which has eternal
foundations, if ever you will come there.

Well! And what does this blessed light do for you? Why,

1. It sets all your sins in order before you. It detects the spirit of this world in all its baits and
allurements, and shows how man came to fall from God, and the fallen estate he is in.

2. It begets a sense and sorrow, in such as believe in it, for this fearful lapse. You will then see him
(Christ) distinctly whom you have pierced, and all the blows and wounds you have given him by your
disobedience; and how you have made him to serve with your sins, and you will weep and mourn for it,
and your sorrow will be a godly sorrow.

3. After this it will bring you to the holy watch, to take care that you do so no more, and that the enemy
surprise you not again. Then thoughts, as well as words and works, will come to judgment, which is the
way of holiness, in which the redeemed of the Lord do walk. Here you will come to love God above all,
and your neighbors as yourselves. Nothing hurts, nothing harms, nothing makes afraid on this holy
mountain. Now you come to be Christ's indeed, for you are his in nature and spirit, and not your own.
And when you are thus Christ's, then Christ is yours, and not before. And here communion with the
Father and with the son you will know, and the efficacy of the blood of cleansing, even the blood of
Jesus Christ, that immaculate Lamb, which speaks better things than the blood of Abel, and which
cleanses from all sin the consciences of those, that, through the living faith, come to be sprinkled with it
from dead works to serve the living God.

William Penn

From George Fox's Journal

ALL Friends of the Lord everywhere, whose minds are turned in towards the Lord, take heed to the
light within you, which is the light of Christ; which, as you love it, will call your minds inward, that
are abroad in the things of this world; so your minds may be renewed by it, and turned to God in this
which is pure, to worship the living God, the Lord of hosts, over all the things in the world. That which
calls your minds out of the lusts of the world, will call them out of the affections and desires, and turn you
to set your affections on heavenly things instead. The same that calls the mind out of the world, will
give judgment upon the world's affections and lusts; the same calls out your minds from the world's
teachers and the things, to have your minds renewed. There is your obedience known and found; there
the image of God is renewed in you, and you come to grow up in it. That which calls your minds out of
the earth, turns them towards God, where the pure babe is born of the virgin; and the babe's food is
known, the children's bread, which comes from the living God, and nourishes up to eternal life; which
babes and children receive their wisdom from above, from the pure living God, and not from the
worldly men; for that heavenly wisdom is trampled under foot by such men. All who hate this light,
whose minds are abroad in the the things of the world, in the world, and in the image of the devil, get
the words of the saints, (that received their wisdom from above), into their old nature and their
corrupted minds. Such people are murderers of the just and enemies to the cross of Christ; in these
people the prince of the air lodges, sons of perdition, betrayers of the just. Therefore take heed to that
light, which is oppressed with the fleshly nature; which light, as it arises, shall condemn all that
cursed nature, shall expel it, and shut it out of the house. So you will come to see the candle lit, and
the house being swept and swept clean. Then afterward the pure pearl arises, and then the eternal God
is exalted. The same light that calls in your minds out of the world, (that are abroad), the same turns them
to God the Father of lights. Here in the pure mind is the pure God waited upon for wisdom from above;
and the pure God is seen night and day, and the eternal peace, of which there is no end, enjoyed. People
may have openings, and yet their minds go into the lusts of the flesh; but there the affections are
not mortified. Therefore listen to that, take heed to that, which calls your minds out of the affections
and lusts of the world to have them renewed. The same will turn your minds to God; the same light will
set your affections above, and bring you to wait for the pure wisdom of God from on high, that it may
be justified in you. Wait all in that (the Light) which calls your minds inward and turns them
to God; here is the true cross. That mind shall feed upon nothing that is of the world, but be kept in
the pure light up to God, to feed upon the living food which comes from the living God. The Lord
God Almighty be with you all, dear babes, and keep you all in his strength and power to his glory, over all
the world, you whose minds are called out of it, and turned to God, to worship the creator and serve
him, and not the creature. The light of God which calls the mind out of the creatures, and turns it to
himself, brings into a being of endless joy and peace. Here is always a seeing God present, which is
not known to the world, whose hearts are in the creatures, whose knowledge is in the flesh, whose minds
are not renewed. Therefore all Friends, the seed of God mind and dwell in, to reign over the unjust; and
the power of the Lord dwell in, to keep you clear in your understandings, that the seed of God may reign
in you all; the seed of God, which is but one in all, is Christ in the male and in the female, which the
promise is to. 'Wait upon the Lord for the just to reign over the unjust, for the seed of God to reign over
the seed of the serpent, and be the head; and that all that is mortal may die; for out of that will
rise presumption. So fare you well, and God Almighty bless, guide, and keep you in his wisdom.'

George Fox

And another letter to Friends opening of their understandings in the way of truth, and directing them to
the true teacher in themselves.

THE Lord shows a man his thoughts, and discovers all the secret things in man. And man
may be brought to see his evil thoughts, running mind, and vain imaginations, and may strive to keep
them down, and to keep his mind in; but cannot overcome them, nor keep his mind within to the Lord.
In this state and condition submit to the spirit of the Lord that shows them, and that will bring to
wait upon the Lord; and He that has discovered them will destroy them. Therefore stand in
the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ, (who is the author of the true faith), and mind him; for he will
discover the root of lusts, evil thoughts, and vain imaginations; and how they are begotten, conceived,
and bred; and then how they are brought forth, and how every evil member works. He will discover
every principle from its own nature and root.

So mind the faith of Christ, and the anointing which is in you, to be taught by it, which will discover
all workings in you. As he teaches you, so obey and repent; else you will not grow in the faith, or in the life
of Christ, where the love of God is received. Now love creates love, its own nature and image: and
when mercy and truth meet, what joy there is! Mercy triumphs over judgment; and love and mercy
bear the judgment of the world in patience. That which cannot bear the world's judgment is not the love
of God; for love bears all things, and is above the world's judgment; for the world's judgment is
but foolishness. Though it be the world's judgment and practice to cast all the filthiness that is
among themselves upon the saints, yet their judgment is false. The chaste virgins follow Christ the
Lamb that takes away the sins of the world; but they that are of that spirit which is not chaste, will not
follow Christ the Lamb in his steps, but are disobedient to him in his commands. The fleshly mind
does mind the flesh, talks fleshly, and its knowledge is fleshly, and not spiritual; but savors of death, not
of the spirit of life. Some men have the nature of swine wallowing in the mire. Some have the nature of
dogs, to bite both the sheep and one another. Some have the nature of lions, to tear, devour, and
destroy. Some the nature of wolves, to tear and devour the lambs and sheep of Christ: and some the
nature of the serpent, (that old adversary), to sting, envenom, and poison. "He that has an ear to hear,
let him hear," and learn these things within himself. Some men have the natures of other beasts
and creatures, minding nothing but earthly and visible things, and feeding without the fear of God.
Some have the nature of a horse, to prance and vapor in their strength, and to be swift in doing evil.
Some have the nature of tall sturdy oaks, to flourish and spread in wisdom and strength, who are strong
in evil, which must perish and come to the fire.

Thus the evil is but one in all, but works many ways; and whatsoever a man or woman's nature is addicted
to that is outward, the evil one will suit him, and please his nature and appetite, to keep his mind in
his inventions and in the creatures, from the creator. Oh! Therefore do not let the mind go from God; for if
it does, it will be stained, venomed, and corrupted. If the mind goes forth from the Lord, it is hard to bring
it in again: therefore take heed of the enemy, and keep in the faith of Christ. Oh! Therefore mind that
which is eternal and invisible, and him who is the creator and mover of all things: for the things that
are made, are not made of things that appear; for the visible covers the invisible sight in you. But as
the Lord, who is invisible, does open you by his invisible power and spirit, and brings down the carnal
mind in you; so the invisible and immortal things are brought to light in you. Oh! Therefore you that
know the light, walk in the light! For there are children of darkness that will talk of the light, and of
the truth, yet not walk in it; but the children of light love the light, and walk in the light. But the children
of darkness walk in darkness, and hate the light. In them the earthly lusts and carnal mind choke the seed
of faith, which brings oppression on the seed and death over themselves. Oh! Therefore mind the pure
spirit of the everlasting God, which will teach you to use the creatures in their right place, and which
judges the evil. To you, Oh God, be all glory and honor, who are Lord of all visibles and invisibles! To you
be all praise, who brings out of the deep to yourself, Oh powerful God! Who is worthy of all glory! For
the Lord who created all, and gives life and strength to all, is over all and merciful to all. So you, who
have made all, and over all, to you be all glory! In you is my strength, refreshment, and life, my joy and
my gladness, my rejoicing and glorying for evermore! To live and walk in the spirit of God is joy, peace,
and life; but the mind going forth into the creatures, or into any visible things from the Lord, this
brings death. When the mind goes into the flesh, and into death, the accuser gets within, and the law of
sin and death gets into the flesh. Then the life suffers under the law of sin and death, and then there
is straitness and failings. For then the good is shut up, and the self-righteousness is set atop. Then
man works in the outward law; and he cannot justify himself by the law, but is condemned by the light:
for he cannot get out of that state, except by abiding in the light, resting in the mercy of God, and
believing in him from whom all mercy flows. For there is peace in resting in the Lord Jesus. This is
the narrow way that leads to him, the life; but few will abide in it. Therefore keep in the innocence, and
be obedient to the faith in him. Take heed of conforming to the world, and of reasoning with flesh and
blood, for that brings disobedience; and then imaginations and questionings arise, to draw from
obedience to the truth of Christ. But the obedience of faith destroys imaginations, questionings,
and reasonings, with all the temptations in the flesh, buffetings, looking forth, and fetching up things
that are past. But, not keeping in the life and light, not crossing the corrupt will by the power of God, the
evil nature grows up in man; then burdens will come, and man will be stained with that nature. But
Esau's mountain shall be laid waste, and become a wilderness, where the dragons lie; but Jacob, the
second birth, shall be fruitful and shall arise. For Esau is hated, and must not be lord; but Jacob, the
second birth, which is perfect and plain, shall be lord; for he is beloved of God.

George Fox

George Fox's Letter 265

All you that are believers in the light of Christ, which manifests darkness,
you are kept by the power of God unto the day of salvation.
So, though your salvation is not yet completed,
yet you have your keeper, the power of God,
which neither slumbers nor sleeps, and it will keep you unto that day.
For those virgins, in the parable, they had their keeper,
by which they were preserved in their virginity,
which they were never accused of losing;
for it is said, that "the cry was at midnight;"
that is, the mid-time of darkness;
for darkness is called night, and the voice of the bridegroom was at midnight, "Arise."
Now they that had no oil in their lamps did not enter with the bridegroom,
but they that had oil did.
Now that which keeps is the power of God,
and it preserves pure unto him in the virginity,
from that which would defile the virgin mind, and the virgin soul and spirit.
For it is all from the same man of sin that defiles the mind, and the spirit,
that leads them out to defile their bodies, and corrupt them;
therefore all are to mind their keeper, the power of God,
which was before the devil, the man of sin, was;
by which power of God they have oil in their lamps,
through which their lamps may be always burning in their temple,
and such come to be the temple of God;
for they that defile the temple, defile their souls and bodies,
they let in the defiler and destroyer, and so their lamps go out,
and they go from God and his power, the keeper, and such God will destroy.
And so many as are kept by the power of the Lord unto the day of salvation,
though the day of salvation is not yet completed,
yet in the day of salvation the people of God are a willing people,
even in this day of his power.
And so they are to abide with their keeper, which is the power of God ;
for while they be in the night, and not in the day of salvation, nor day of power,
though they may be in the wilderness of temptations and trouble,
yet may feel the power, the keeper, to lead through all these things,
out of Egypt, through the Red Sea,
through the wilderness, through Jordan, the river of Judgment, and over the Canaanites;
and therefore everyone's faith is to stand in the power of God,
and believe in the power of God, that will bring to the day of God's power,
and to the day of his salvation.
For the outward Jew did not enter, because of unbelief;
and so this great foul man of sin has defiled all mankind outwardly and inwardly.
And therefore all to have their faith to stand in the power of God, their keeper;
for the defilement is in the night, by the power of darkness, and through it.
Therefore let your faith stand in the power of God, your keeper,
which will keep body, and soul, and spirit clean and blameless to the day of redemption, and day
of salvation;
and by the power of God such will have a dominion over the foul man of sin, the devil;
for it is he in people that leads and tempts to outward defilement of their body,
and so to lose their virginity;
and it is he that draws their minds from God and Christ, and from God's ways,
and his worship, and his truth, and his spirit, and his grace,
and his faith that he works in people.
Therefore if your faith stands in the power of God,
all by it is preserved in this, body, soul, and spirit, in purity
and a hidden mind, soul, and spirit, secret to the Lord, who is a spirit;
and they are preserved by his power, their keeper.
For, as is the saying of some of the world, that are the most modest,
that they will keep their outward virginity to the day of their death, or of their marriage,
but such as before that have no esteem of their bodies, no more than unruly beasts,
give up their bodies to uncleanness, and themselves to work wickedness,
and so forsake their keeper, the power of God,
which should keep both inwardly and outwardly.
And so all the inward virgin minds, and souls, and spirits, that are hidden to the Lord,
they will die before they will lose their inward virginity,
but will keep it to the marriage of the lamb, as the wise virgins did;
by which power they are preserved over the man of sin,
whom Christ their husband bruises the head of, and destroys him and his works.
For Christ was before the man of sin was, (the devil, or his works either),
who was glorified with the Father before the world began;
and therefore all such virgins as are come to Christ, and are married to him,
Christ your husband, he will deal with the foul man of sin, and bruise his head,
and break his power and strength to pieces,
and will take him and cast him into everlasting fire.
And therefore keep your faith in the power of God,
which will bring you to the marriage of the lamb;
by which power of God, which was before the devil was,
you have oil in your lamps, that your lamps may burn always;
by which power of God you may come to the day of God's power,
and all to be a willing people, to serve God, and walk in truth, and to obey him;
and so by the same power of God, which is your keeper,
you may come to the day of salvation;
you may have the song of salvation, and joy of salvation,
and comfort of salvation, and the possession of salvation, and be heirs of the same.
And so here you have your keeper, to wit, the power of God.
And Peter's words answer to this,
"You have a light which you do well to take heed unto,
that shines in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arises in you hearts;"
signifying it is sufficient, which you must take heed to,
it will lead you to the day dawning,
the light that shines in the dark place of your hearts, in the dark place of your minds.
Now you do well to take heed to this light,
for it leads you to the day star, and day dawning.
"Out of Egypt have I called my son," said the Lord; and Israel was called God's son,
who was called out of the house of darkness and bondage;
they had light in Goshen, when the children of Egypt were in darkness, and could not see one another.
For now the children of light have light, and can see one another;
the children of Egypt, Sodom, and Babylon cannot see one another.
And so, they do well that take heed to the light,
but they do ill that do not take heed to the light,
for they walk in darkness, and know not where they go,
and stumble at noon day, the highest time of light;
for this light leads to the day dawning,
and day star arising in their hearts, which is a sure word of prophecy.
A prophet is a seer, and so with the light he will see, that which manifests is light;
by it you shall see the day dawning, and the day star arising,
and when that arises, the sons of God sing together, because of the joyful day;
and the saints sing, who have long been in the brambly, briary wilderness,
and in the house of bondage, of darkness and trouble, and of sorrow and misery.
Therefore, there is joy when the day star appears and the day dawn;
there is great cause of joy for all the sons of God, when the day star appears,
and for them to sing together;
for long nights of trouble and travel have they been in.
"The path of the just is a shining light,'" the path of the unjust is darkness.
So there are but two paths.
Now the unjust cannot abide to hear talk of the light,
but call it natural, and created and made, or conscience,
they do not know what to call it, whose darkness cannot comprehend the light,
though it shines in the darkness;
and so, the path of the just being "a shining light,
which shines more and more unto the perfect day;"
signifying that the day is come, that the just has his path, and his path is a shining light;
and so increases, shines more and more unto the perfect day."
Now the unjust being in darkness, they hate the light and love darkness rather than light;
and they hate the just man's path, the light, because their deeds are evil;
for the light will reprove them.
So the just man's path is sufficient, a shining light: for it shines more and more,
it increases, it is sufficient, and brings to the perfect day.
Now the unjust, whose path is darkness, say, "It is not sufficient,"
but such cannot abide the light, cannot abide the just man's path, nor the just either,
but hate both, and speak against him and his path,
with his darkness, that cannot comprehend the light, though light shines in his darkness;
and therefore if he cannot comprehend the light with his darkness,
(how can he comprehend the prophets', and apostles', and Christ's words?)
but calls light darkness, and darkness light,
and calls it natural, or created, or made, or conscience;
and so this comes to be fulfilled on them, as John said,
who with their darkness could not comprehend the light,
yet they would be talking of the saints' words, law and prophets, with their darkness,
which could not comprehend the light.
They would call light, darkness, said Christ,
"If that light that is in you be darkness, how great is that darkness?"
You neither know the scriptures nor the power of God.
How should they know the scriptures or the power of God either,
whose darkness does not comprehend the light?
A dark man, is a blind man. A blind man has not true judgment.
Therefore how should they call it otherwise, but a natural light, a created or made light?
So the Pharisees believed that Christ was to come, and preached him to come;
as the Protestants and Papists preach him, that he is come and to come;
and can tell by scripture where he was crucified,
as the Jews could tell by scripture where he was to be born.
But they were all against Christ, the light.
When he came, they said, "Christ had a devil."
The Pharisees said of him, who was light, that he was the prince of devils;
who was the light, and the truth, and the life; and that he was the carpenter's son.
So without the light they could not see him, nor his works, with their darkness;
neither can they now,
neither can they know the scriptures nor the power of God,
whose darkness cannot comprehend the light.
And John was a man sent from God,
the greatest prophet born of a woman,
who came for a witness, to bear witness of the true light,
which lights every man that comes into the world, that all through him might believe;
and it is said, in Christ was light; and this light was the life of men.
And so the life that is in Christ, is the light of men.
So this is a heavenly light, a divine light, a spiritual light, a saving light;
which is the life of Christ, which is the light of men;
though the professors in Christ's time, and these times, Papists and Protestants,
with their darkness, cannot comprehend the light, so not the life;
so no true preachers of Christ without the light and life.
John said, he was not the light, but was sent to bear witness of the, light.
That he was not worthy to unloose the latchet of Christ's shoes.
And yet John, who had seen Christ, the lamb of God,
who takes away the sins of the world,
pointed his disciples to him, and showed them Christ;
and they forsook him and went to Christ.
For John came for a witness, to bear witness of Him who was the true light;
and that he that was to come after him, was preferred before him, for he was before him.
Yet when John was cast into prison, he questioned whether Christ was he,
or whether he should look for another; and sends to Christ.
And Christ answers his messengers, and said unto them,
the blind receive their sight, and the poor receive the gospel, etc.
And as for these Papists, and Protestants, and Jews,
they question whether Christ, the light that lights every man that comes into the world,
whether he is the spiritual, divine, saving, and heavenly light.
And further, mark Christ's own words. John 12, 4-6.
"He said, he is the light of the world, that teaches you how to" believe;
to wit, all his disciples, as Christ has taught them, who said, believe in the light.
Now, believing in the light, you believe in that which does make all things;
for that which makes manifest is the light; and therefore to believe in the light,
is to believe in that which that which makes manifest Christ to be their way,
their teacher, priest, mediator, interceder, savior, and redeemer.
And he that believes in the light, believes in that which makes manifest all false ways,
and false religions, and false worship, and false teachers, and antichrists.
For they that believe in the light, it manifests all true ways, and true religions.
And so, they are no true believers, neither Protestants, nor Papists,
who only believe Christ has come, from scripture,
as the Jews believed Christ was to come, from scripture.
But, I say, they are no true believers,
but as they also believe in the light as Christ the heavenly man does teach.
For the Jews, may teach their people to believe from the scripture,
the Papists and Protestants may teach their children to believe from the same;
but, not believing in the light, they are no true believers, as Christ has taught;
for Christ, who is the savior, he teaches people how to believe,
and said, believe in the light.
Which is plain, that they are no true believers that do not believe in the light,
neither Jews, nor those that have got the name of christians;
for believing in the light, they become children of the light.
And so it is plain, they are no children of light but who believe in the light,
nor children of the day.
For children of darkness may profess scriptures,
the devil may bring scriptures,
and Protestant, and Turk, and Papist, and Jew may bring scriptures,
with a dark spirit, and hold them in the unrighteousness;
but there is no true believer in God, nor in Christ Jesus, but who believes in the light,
which the scripture testifies of;
showing there is no salvation, redemption, justification, sanctification,
but to them who believe in the light, that manifests all things,
nor seeing Christ, who died, and is risen for them.
And therefore the heavenly man, the second Adam, the Lord Jesus Christ,
teaches how to believe, and said, "believe in the light, while you have it;"
and this light will manifest him to be their way, their truth, and life;
which light comes from him who enlightens every man that comes into the world,
that all through the light might believe.
And so they that believe not in the light, as Christ has taught, are no true ministers,
nor true messengers, nor true disciples, nor true christians,
nor true preachers of Christ Jesus, who believe not, as he has taught them;
but they that lay away Christ's teaching,
and teach one another to deny the way that Christ has taught to believe in,
are keepers of people in darkness, out of the light,
and call it natural, created, and made, and conscience,
and so with their darkness and blindness give the light such names,
who with their darkness cannot comprehend it;
for he that believes in the light,
it lets him see the scriptures, the prophets, Christ and the apostles' words,
and by it they do distinguish the true prophets' words from the false,
the holy men's words from the unholy,
the sanctified from them that are not sanctified,
Christ's words from antichrist's,
the true apostles' words from the false.
So Christ the light teaches his people to believe in that which manifests all things;
and they that believe in the light have the witness in themselves of Christ,
in whom they do believe, they have the witness in themselves,
that he is their redeemer, and savior, and their way, their truth, and their life;
for with the light they see him,
they believing in the light that makes manifest;
and after they believe in the light, become children of the1ight;
they witness themselves, that they are sealed,
for their belief in the light stands in Christ the light,
who has bought and purchased them;
and after that the are sealed by the spirit of promise,
having God's mark or stamp set upon them, they can set to their seal,
that God is true in all his promises, in all his prophets concerning Christ Jesus;
who taught them to believe in the light.
With the light they see, and come to know the "three that bear record in heaven",
and the "three that bear record on earth, the spirit the water, and the blood."
First, the spirit that bears witness in the earth, which mortifies them,
which circumcises them, which leads them into all truth;
in which spirit is their fellowship, and a bond peace,
that keeps down that which troubles them;
by which spirit the believers are baptized into one body;
brought out of the many bodies;
and so by the spirit they are brought to the one head, which is Christ Jesus,
(though there are many heads in the world),
by which spirit they are sanctified,
by which spirit they are instructed,
by which spirit they worship God,
by which spirit they are covered, by which spirit they pray,
and by which spirit they sing praises to God who is a spirit,
by which spirit they have an understanding, the spirit of wisdom and knowledge,
which is to know God and Jesus Christ whom he bath sent, which is life eternal.
Secondly, They come to know the water which is a witness in the earth;
by which they are washed,
their minds, their souls, their spirits, and in their bodies, with this pure water.
And this is a witness in the earth with the light;
they that believe in it, it manifests these two witnesses in the earth,
and with the light they see the pope's counterfeit holy water,
which he has set up since the apostles' days,
who with the light bear witness against it, not to be God's witness, nor God's setting up.
And so the children of the light, that believe in the light,
their bodies, their souls, their spirits, and their minds are washed clean
in this pure, clean, holy water; that comes from above, from the pure holy God,
which is one of these witnesses in the earth.
The third witness is his blood, with which the hearts of people are sprinkled,
and their consciences are sprinkled with the blood of Jesus.
As Moses sprinkled the outside of the posts, etc. with the blood of bulls and goats;
which blood of bulls and goats, Christ's blood ends,
which sprinkles the heart and conscience of people.
So this blood of Jesus Christ, the heavenly man,
is felt in the hearts and consciences of people;
by which blood they are sanctified,
they are cleansed from all their dead works,
to serve the living God, and to serve their dead works no longer.
So by this blood they are cleansed from all sin.
They that walk in the light, and believe in the light,
they are children of the light, and children of the day;
and the blood of Jesus Christ, the son of God, cleanses them from all sin;
and their garments are made white in the blood of the Lamb;
by which they come to testify of Jesus;
they overcome the beast, the whore, the false church.
And so every true believer, believes as Christ has taught them, to believe in the light,
that so they may become children of the light.
They have these three witnesses that bear witness in the earth,
to bear witness in themselves;
and they can set to their seal, that God is true in all his works,
in prophets and apostles, and his son;
and they shall come to know, and do come to know,
the three that bear record in heaven,
and the three that bear record in the earth.

George Fox

The light shines in darkness, showing us our heart's motives. We walk in the Light. The Light checks
us before we do something wrong. Eventually we become Sons of Light. We become Light. The brightness
of his coming (at his return) destroys the last of our darkness, the residual spirit of Satan. The day star
arises in our hearts.

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions
and desires. Gal 5:2

So what is the difference in the Light and Word compared to the Spirit?

The Light and Word, Christ, has been in all men in the Old and the New Testaments.

The Spirit of God was poured out on all men at Pentecost. There is an additional gift of the Spirit,
(confused as the Baptism of the Spirit) interim to the one baptism of the Spirit into the death of Christ.
(click to see references).

We benefit from the Light within and the Spirit that has been poured out onto all mankind. For
our purposes, we can simply consider the Spirit, Word, and Light as one.

The return of Christ to an individual is Christ in his glory with the Father to establish their Kingdom in
your hearts. This is to be translated into paradise, while still residing on the earth - stepping into
another dimension of sight, awareness, and consciousness. Being sanctified, separated, protected. You
step into another dimension, and walk by the Light of God, not the sun or the moon. To become a child
of the Light.

And expect to be prominently displayed by your Lord, for as he said: No one lights a lamp and hides
it in a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, he puts it on a stand, so that those who come in can
see the light. Luke 8:16

See George Fox's excellent paper on Concerning the Light for more scriptural detail and explanation.

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God how to experience the renewal of mind and heart.

Click here to see a complete set of references in the Bible to THE LIGHT.

For you were once darkness,

but now you are light in the Lord.
Live as children of light.
Eph 5:8-9

There has been a great deal historical controversy on the Light Christ within each man vs. Christ in
his heavenly body, upholding and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His
mighty word of power, vs. the contribution of Christ the earthly Son of Man. So there is
no misunderstanding, a short enumeration of Christ, the Son of Man's contributions includes:

● By his sufferings, one offering, sacrifice and death, put an end to all the legal offerings, types, shadows,
and figures, outward ordinances [tithes], rites and ceremonies, and many washings [baptisms], under the
Law of Moses and Levitical Priesthood, he continues a Priest forever, after the order of Melchizedeck,
King of Righteousness and King of peace, our High Priest over the house and family of God; he
having consecrated, prepared and opened the new and living way of the new covenant, through the veil
or his flesh, for our access into the most holy sanctuary. (From G. Whitehead's Letter)
● His sacrifice paid for the sins of all mankind, giving each of us the opportunity to approach God with faith
in only his name, to receive the power of his changing grace to cleanse and perfect us forever - to be set
us free from the captivity and bondage of sin.
(But until all sin is removed from you heart, until you are purified; you cannot be in the company of God-
for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light
with darkness? 2 Cor 6:14. )
● He made it possible so man could live in union with Him while on earth but in the Kingdom of Heaven.
● He refined godliness to love your enemies, forbidding anger, looking at a woman with lust is
committing adultery in your heart, be prefect, loose your life to save it, turn the other cheek, etc.
● He made it possible for the Holy Spirit to be poured out on all mankind - which occurred at Pentecost.
● He gave us the earthly example of God.
● He lived a perfect life, showing his loving obedience to the commands of God, even to death on the cross.
(We are to follow in his footsteps, suffering, to the death of our selfish natures on the spiritual cross of self-
denial.)

The world must learn that I love the Father

and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
John 14:31

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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IS THE LAW REALLY DEAD?

For God's Favor - Yes
For Obedience - No.

OBEDIENCE IS FUNDAMENTAL TO BEING

A CHRISTIAN

Jesus said:
If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. John 14:23

But he who merely hears

and does not practice doing My words
is like a man who built a house on the ground
without a foundation, against which the torrent burst,
and immediately it collapsed and fell,
and the breaking and ruin of that house was great.
Luke 6:46-49

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Christ died on the cross to show us by example the extent of obedience required; for as he died on the
cross in loving obedience to God, so we also must obey the promptings and commands of God, to crucify
our sinful nature on the cross of self-denial.

The world must learn that I love the Father

and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
John 14:31

After the Law and before Christ, the only people who received the favor of God were those who walked to
the best of their ability, closely conforming to the Law's requirements; those who ignored his Law,
were disregarded by Him, Heb 8:9. Because of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, with only a belief in His name
and humble sorrow for the past, we can approach God by faith in the name of Christ to be able to receive
the operations of his changing grace to purify our hearts and consciences; whatever our burden of past
sins may be. With faith in the name of Jesus, by grace and the cross, He can now make you perfect in
every good work to do his will, Heb 13:11; a forever cleansing and perfection with resulting union that is
now available to all who go to him for change. Until we have advanced spiritually far
enough to consistently hear the Voice of the Lord and follow it in faith, being obedient
to Christ's commands to us, the Law is our schoolmaster, which we must strive to obey.

Without obedience, you cannot know Jesus: We know that we have come to know him if we obey
his commands. 1 John 2:3
Without obedience, you cannot love Jesus: If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. John 14:23
Without obedience you are not a friend of Jesus: You are my friends if you do what I command. John 15:14
Without obedience, you cannot have been born again while still sinning: Whoever has been born of
God does not sin. 1 John 3:9

Each time you sin, you are piercing Christ within you. If you have sorrow and regret, with resolve to
not repeat the same mistake again, your godly sorrow is a soothing balm to the wounds you have
inflicted. On the day of the Lord, which all will experience, you will see whom you have pierced, and you
will mourn. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. John 14:24

While the Law is dead as a way to obtain the receipt God's favor, we (Gentiles) are still required to
be obedient to the core of the Law. The ministers and pastors incorrectly today tell us the law is dead,
even to our required obedience - that we no longer have to observe it; instead all we need is to believe
in Jesus and get baptised, excusing a life of sin.

Indeed you [God] are to them as a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on
an instrument;
for they hear your words, but they do not do them. Eze 33:32

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. James 1:22

Blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey it. Luke 11:28

The ministers of today call trying to observe the law, works, and tell us: don't even try to obey the Law.
This is colossal lie, leading their followers to destruction.

They profess that they know God;

but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient,
and unto every good work reprobate. Titus 1:16

What about: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength? And Love your
neighbor as you love yourself, and Don't steal, and Don't commit adultery, and Don't bear
false witness, and Don't covet, and Don't murder, and Honor your father and mother? If
you think you can remain a thief and obtain salvation, you are grossly deceived. If you think you can lie
or remain a selfish person in your flesh, not loving your neighbor as much as you love yourself, you
are grossly deceived. The law defines sin, what we must cease; which if we do not, Jesus said, 'I tell you
the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.' John 8:34. If you are a slave to sin, Jesus cannot be
your Lord. Jesus said himself, you cannot serve two masters! Luke 16:13. The Law is our reminder of
sin and that we need God's help to be able to completely stop sinning. Following the common sense
portions of the law, to the best of our ability, is not only required, but is evidence of our sincere
repentance for our sins of the past. The fear of God is to depart from evil. Let everyone who names the
name of the Lord give up all iniquity and stand aloof from it. 2 Tim 2:19. The purpose of this web site is to
show you how to be obedient to all of God's commands, and how to receive the changing power of God
to become pure and free from sin.

Do you not know.. you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death,
or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Rom 6:16

Jesus answered them,

“Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin."
John 8:34

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness,

and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which
I say?
Luke 6:46

Jesus said he will deny all who practice lawlessness (iniquity, sin),
even those who claim to be "saved" Christians.

Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom
of heaven,
but [only] he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord,
 have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name,
and done many wonders in Your name?
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Mat 7:21-23

The Son of Man will send out His angels,

and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend,
and those who practice lawlessness,
and will cast them into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42

Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men,

but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. Mat 23:28

Gentle reader, Christ came and strengthened the law, making it even harder to be
obedient. He changed eye for an eye, to turn the other cheek; love your enemies, bless
them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully
use you, and persecute you. He made adultery, not just the act, but the thought in the
heart. He made murder, not just the act, but the anger and hate in your heart. He told us
not to repay injury or insult. He told us that restraint of sin was not enough; that our
hearts must be cleansed of the desire or inclination to sin. He said:

You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell
you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of
your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain
on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will
you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers,
what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore,
as your heavenly Father is perfect. Mat 5:43-48

Now Jesus is fair. He would not have increased these commands on us, unless there was
a way to obey them; the way is to go to him, wait and watch silently, listen for him, hear
him and obey him - repentance - the inward cross of self-denial.

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed
and obey Him. Heb 5:9

More on that later.

How about the parts of the law such as: don't eat swine or hare, or bring in your tithes,
or perform you oaths to God? These parts of the Law died, for they were only
shadows, ceremonies, and forms. These parts of the law are dead to us, but the inward
law, the law that is written on every man's heart, his conscience, is alive and to be
obeyed. And the inward law is the same as the outward law's moral parts. What is still alive
is the core of the law. The core of the law is our schoolmaster, until we are
advanced spiritually enough to be led by the Spirit of God.

The core, or inward parts, of God's Law were explained partially when Jesus answered
the question:

Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Jesus said unto him, Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy
soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 22:35-42

Further clues from Jesus were: Go and learn the meaning of this: I desire mercy,
not sacrifice. Mat 12:7 .
Meaning outward sacrifices are not what he wants, he wants you to forgive and love
your neighbor.

And what does the LORD require of you But to do justly; To love mercy, And to walk
humbly with your God? Micah 6:8

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise
and cumin,
and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith:
these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Matthew 23:23-24

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this
THE GOLDEN RULE
sums up the Law and the Prophets. Mat 7:12, Rom 13:8-10, Gal 5:14, Lev19:18 - strive to
always obey this.

Why do Your disciples not order their way of living .. eat with hands unwashed
and ceremonially not purified?
..These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts hold off and are far distant from Me.
In vain .. do they worship Me, ordering and teaching as doctrines the commandments
and precepts of men. Mark 7:5-7

Forget about food, drink, washing properly; For from within, out of the heart of
men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts,
covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
All these evil things come from within and defile a man. Mark 7:21-23

So Jesus is telling people the important part of the law is love, mercy, and faith. At the
same time, he is telling us that the tithing, sacrifices, and ceremonies are not important.
He is stressing the inward condition of a man's heart - whether it is filled with love
and mercy or evil.

Paul tells us: for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God,
but the doers of the law will be justified; [permanently]
for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law,
these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness,
and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them. Rom 2:13-16

So all men already have an inward moral law written in their hearts, and it is to be obeyed;
the law is not to be ignored because we believe in Jesus, who supposedly excuses us from
all requirements to obey the Law.
But Paul says: Only the doers of the law will be justified.

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of
her offspring,
who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev 12:17

Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God
and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12

Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of
life, and may enter through the gates into the city. Rev 22:14

The Righteousness Lies

Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,
you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matt. 5:20
Jesus told us how our righteousness must exceed the Pharisees: avoiding
committing adultery is not enough, we must not even look at a woman with lust;
avoiding murder is not enough, we must not harbor anger in our hearts; it is not enough
to love our brother, we love even our enemies; we must bless those who curse us.
These requirements of righteousness exceed restraint of conduct; they require a
changed heart, a purified heart. Writing to those still sinning in the churches, Paul
said: Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners;
and purify your hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8. Everyone who has this hope in
him purifies himself, just as he is pure.

The ministers of today say: because you have faith in Christ, even though your continue
to sin, you are righteous and saved.
He that says to the wicked, 'You are righteous;' him shall the people curse, nations
shall abhor him. Pro 24:24
You will eventually curse all who lied, saying that with belief in Jesus, you are
righteous, while still sinning.
You say you have faith? But where is the evidence of your faith in Christ? Are you obedient
to his law? Have you produced the fruit of the Spirit of God? For Christ said his
true followers would produce fruit, much fruit: When you bear (produce) much fruit,
My Father is honored and glorified, and you show and prove yourselves to be
true followers of Mine. John 15:8. And the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace,
patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Gal 5:22-3. So
unless you have the fruit of the Spirit, Jesus says you are not a true follower of his; and
all branches without fruit will be thrown into the fire and burned. His fruit and
his righteousness are gifts of grace over time as you seek His righteousness. It does
not happen with saying that you believe in Jesus; you must be obedient to his commands.

To produce fruit, we must strive to obey the parts of the law that relate to morality:
regarding love, mercy and faith. All the other important moral laws evolve from the
principal and most important commandments: love God with all your heart, mind, soul,
and strength; and love your neighbor as yourself. For example, stealing is covered by
love your neighbor, for if you love him as yourself, you will not steal from him, or lie to
him, or use him sexually, or envy him, or hate him, or plot against him, or be angry with
him. Love is the opposite of selfishness. As James says, if you love your neighbor as
yourself, you will do well; it is the royal law. James 2:8

These blind guides, masquerading as Christ's ministers, tell you that you have
the righteousness of Christ, so you need do nothing.
They say to rely on the "imputed righteousness of Christ" to us, based on our faith; as it
was with Abraham.
True, Abraham received imputed righteousness even before he was circumcised. True,
our faith is imputed righteousness.
But Abraham went on to be circumcised, just as we must receive the spiritual
circumcision- our heart circumcised from sin.
We can't just sit around celebrating our imputed righteousness, which only gives us the
right to approach God for help.
As Abraham exercised his faith to move to a new land , so we must forsake the world to
enter the Kingdom of God, within and around us.
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this
to your shame. 1 Cor 15:34

You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the
kingdom of Christ and of God.
All people not pure, immoral, or greedy people will be banned from heaven.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes
on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6, You have to become pure to have any inheritance
in the Kingdom of God and Christ.

You are the slaves of him whom you obey, whether that be to sin, which leads to death,
or to obedience which leads to righteousness (right doing and right standing with God)?
Rom 6:16
Notice obedience leads to righteousness. First you have to be obedient; over time,
being obedient results in righteousness.

The Works Lies

Works without faith, counts for nothing. You cannot be justified without faith in Christ,
who enlightens all men in the world.

Faith without works, counts for nothing. You cannot just say "I believe" and live in
your sinful nature without obedience.

Works of love energized by faith, are esteemed and required by God.

I have been challenged with the question: how many works are necessary for salvation?
The answer is: as many acts of repentance as are necessary to crucify your sinful nature.
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature, with its passions
and desires. Gal 5:24
For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13

So you may be asking, how is me crucifying my sinful nature a work?

Answer: It is work to carry your cross, hard work - required work - a work of obedience.
It is loosing your life to save it, the one true sacrifice, required by God and pleasing to him.

But the false prophets say you need do nothing; for we are not saved by works, we are
saved by faith and grace. They say if you do works, (even carry your cross), you are trying
to be justified under the law, and therefore you lose salvation.

Of course we are saved by faith and grace, but after repentance and after carrying our
cross in faith for a time - works, through and energized by, faith. We cannot be justified
by works alone without faith in Christ, but unless our faith energizes and prompts us to
do many good works in obedience, our faith is imagined - make believe Christianity.
We cannot be justified by following the Mosaic law, with its hundreds of commands
relating to ceremonies, rituals, washings, sacrifices, etc., but you had better be sure,
that without works of obedience to the moral core of the law, you will never see the
Kingdom of Christ.

Surely you don't think you are moral, pure, and without greed, until you have repented of
all, and have received the changing grace of God to become moral, pure, and without
greed. You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in
the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because
of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6. Repentance is
the beginning of works.

James said, "faith without works is dead." James 2:17

James further said, " You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by
faith only." James 2:24
Paul said, "continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12
Again Paul said, the purpose of grace, results in a people zealous for good works. Titus 2:14
Peter said: whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. Acts 10:35
Paul again: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works
befitting repentance. Acts 26:20
Jesus said, unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3. Repentance requires
effort on your part.
And, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev
3:19 (Zealous is -ardent desire, enthusiastic).
Jesus further said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. Mat 11:29
Jesus said, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross
daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23
Jesus said, I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:2-3. He wants
perfect works, energized by faith.
Hear! Jesus said: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek
to enter in, and shall not be able. Luke 13:24
The gospel of grace would have you believe striving is unnecessary, yet Jesus ordered us
to strive, (to exert much effort or energy).
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded,
nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing
to communicate. 1 Tim 6:17-18
If you live in a prosperous industrialized nation, you are rich relative to the rest of the
word. So be rich in good works.

But he who practices truth - who does what is right- comes out into the Light; so that
his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--wrought with God - divinely
prompted, done with God's help, in dependence upon Him. John 3:21. A true believer does
truth, or practices truth - does what is right. (He is finished with sin, doing what is wrong.)
A believer comes out into the light, (without fear) to show that his deeds ( or works)
have been: wrought in God; or divinely prompted, done with God's help, in dependence
upon God.

Now ask yourself: How many works, or deeds, have I done that have been wrought,
or prompted by God and with his help? How many works have I done that God
has specifically told me to do, and then helped me to do them?
The first works for all are repentance - with God prompting or showing you what
to repent from, and then you through sorrow, resolving to do do better - repentance. As
Paul said: I declared.. that they should repent, turn to God, and do works
befitting repentance. Acts 26:20

The Grace Lies

The definition of grace has been twisted into pernicious lies by the false prophets. They
say when you repeat the "sinners prayer" or say that Jesus is Lord and/or get baptised,
you instantly receive the grace of God to forgive all your past, present, and future
sins; excusing you to live the remainder of your life in sin, with their guarantee of you
going to heaven when you die.

Consider how completely different the Apostle Paul in Titus defines grace: (what we must
be saved by)

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world,
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our
Savior Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed ,
and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:11-14

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

Grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and to live righteously and godly in this present
world. So to become purified and zealous for good works. Denying ungodliness and
worldly lusts is repentance. Grace leads us to repentance. Grace leads us to the inward
cross of self-denial, so that we can crucify our sinful nature, to become free from all
iniquity and be pure. This is Paul's definition of grace. Can you see how different
Paul's definition of grace is from the definition of instant, no-effort grace you have been
sold by the false prophets?

One who still sins might mistakenly argue they are redeemed from every lawless deed,
but not that grace has purified them!

Grace has been twisted into lies from a teaching of repentance, leading to purity, to be
a license for immorality and continuing in our sinful natures with no repentance
required. This perversion began 2000 years ago in the early church; Jude wrote in 1:4:

For certain men, whose condemnation was written about long ago, have secretly slipped
in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license
for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

These men were false Christians, who had slipped unnnoticed among the true
Christians, preaching freedom to sin through grace by faith in Jesus, but denying Christ
to rule their words and actions as their sovereign and Lord, as he did with the real
Christians of that time. The false gospel of grace was being sold as salvation 2000 years
ago; unfortunately false instant salvation, has become so pervasive that all sects are
deficit sects. See the Great Apostasy for more information.

See True Grace vs. False Grace for a complete discussion of how the definition of grace
has been twisted into malicious lies.

Your sinful nature must be crucified on the inward cross of self-denial, before you
receive the powerful grace of God to circumcise your heart, renew your mind, and to be
born again as an entirely new creature. Then you will walk in perfect obedience to
God's commands. You cannot be obedient or be pleasing to God continuing walk in
your carnal nature, (sinful nature, or flesh.)

Salvation by grace is only received through the death of the sinful nature on the cross.

The Lies of Liberty from the Law - Lawlessness Promoted

There is a glorious liberty of the sons of God, who walk by the Law of Liberty. But before
you are a son of God, enjoying Christian Freedom, walking under control of the Holy Spirt
in love, (of which there is no law is against), you must be first crucified, to become pure,
to produce the fruit of the Spirit. God, like yourself, does not want sons full of lust,
greed, anger, lies, jealousy, envy, etc.; and before he accepts you as a son, you must
be chastened and scourged of all the evil within you - through the cross.

These false prophets tell you that you have the liberty to continue to sin and
lawlessness without God's wrath to follow. These same kind of lies were being spread in
the Apostles times, 2000 years ago. Peter references them:

For uttering loud boasts of folly, they beguile and lure with lustful desires of the flesh
those who are barely escaping from them who are wrongdoers. They promise them
liberty, when they themselves are the slaves of depravity and defilement--for by
whatever anyone is made inferior or worse or is overcome, to that [person or thing] he
is enslaved.
2 Peter 2:18-19
The false prophets lying about liberty from the law, and freedom to sin were also spoken
of by Paul:

Brethren, together follow my example and observe those who live after the pattern we
have set for you. For there are many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you
even with tears, who walk (live) as enemies of the cross of Christ (the Anointed
One). They are doomed and their fate is eternal misery (perdition); their god is
their stomach (their appetites, their sensuality) and they glory in their shame, siding
with earthly things and being of their party. Phil 3:17-19

Those who claim to be righteous, by grace, and in liberty from obeying the law
are hypocrites, a stumbling block, and they scatter the true sheep from Christ. A
hypocrite talks about being religious, while walking in sin. Jesus addressed the hypocrites:

You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. Luk 16:15.
These people draw near Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their
hearts hold off and are far away from Me. Mat 15:8.
Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy
and lawlessness. Mat 23:28

Your hearts have to be cleansed - really cleansed to purity.

After you have been cleansed of sin, to become pure - then, and only then, you are filled
with love and walk fully under the control of God, in love and with the fruit of the Spirit
- against which there is no law. If you disobey the moral law before you have been made
pure and before your words and actions are completely under the control of God, you
are walking in sin and lawlessness.

So what part of the law died?

Anything relating to form, ceremony, or shadows of what Christ actually replaced -

anything that doesn't relate to morals: circumcision, tithing, Sabbath days (a shadow of
the rest), meats, days, oaths, dress, water baptism, etc. - all those died with
Christ. Obedience to these parts of the law counts for nothing, and belies your faith
in Christ's lasting sacrifice.

By his [Jesus'] sufferings, one offering, sacrifice and death, put an end to all the
legal offerings, types, shadows, and figures, outward ordinances [tithes], rites
and ceremonies, and many washings [baptisms], under the Law of Moses and
Levitical Priesthood.
(From G. Whitehead's Letter)

If your doctor persuades you that circumcision is desirable for reasons of health,
no problem; but to be circumcised to please God is a serious error. Circumcision of
the foreskin is but a shadow of the circumcision we must all obtain - circumcision of
the heart - to become an inward Jew.

Animal sacrifices are but a shadow of the one Christian dutiful sacrifice: the
Christian's fleshly, selfish animal nature and spirit slain by the cross of Christ and
presented upon the altar to God, the one true sacrifice required.

Tithing died with the new Priesthood of Christ. See Fox's writing on the details of the
death of tithing.

Oaths died with Christ. Now our yes is to be yes, and our no is to be no, without
any swearing, which Christ and the Apostle James strongly forbid. See Fox's writing
on swearing for the details.

Regarding observing special days, Paul was tolerant, allowing that one man entertaining
and regarding one day above another, and another man's days are every day alike, and
about meats, and not to judge one another; "But let him, said he, be fully persuaded in
his own mind;” yet he condemns the Jewish customs and observation of days, meats,
and drink. While observation of a day is a matter of individual conscience, (in which
one should be fully persuaded), for a group of believers to observe a special day is
definitely wrong, and a form of religion; which is condemned by Paul: But now after
you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the
weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe
days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you
in vain. Gal 4:9-11. And if your church leader says you should observe certain days, or
certain foods, you are listening to a false prophet; as Paul says: Let no man therefore
judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of
the sabbath days, Col 2:16. So an individual can choose to celebrate certain days; but
the church, as policy or rule, cannot; for that is a form of law. If necessary, the Lord will
tell that individual continuing to observe certain days, which ones to stop; thus
maintaining freedom of individual conscience.

There are entire sects built around the Sabbath as part of the Ten Commandments,
insisting that worship be on the seventh day, instead of the first day of the week.
Because Jesus said not one jot shall pass from the law, they think obeying all of the
Ten Commandments is obeying the whole Law. The law is not just the Ten Commandments
- it is hundreds of laws relating to ceremonies, rituals, ordinances, Sabbath
restrictions, family life, sacrifices, washings, etc. Obeying the Ten Commandments is
not obeying the Law.

And we have Paul to help us on the Sabbath controversy: Let no man therefore judge you
in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or
of the sabbath days: Col 2:16. You can observe your "Sabbath-day" or day of worship,
any day you please; however, if you think you are righteous observing Saturday, then
you need to truly observe all the laws of the old Jewish Sabbath, and you really need
to observe the entire Mosaic Law.

Whatever your "day of worship," beware of it being little more than a day of recreation,
with a Quick-Stop for worship. It is better to worship on all days, in a rest from the labors
of the world: namely, the pursuit of what we eat and wear. Rather let us every day rest
from our old labors, and instead labor for the spiritual food that never perishes and labor
for His righteousness by doing the following:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall
be added unto you. Mat 6:33
Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes,
but strive and work and produce rather for the food which endures unto life eternal; John 6:27
The bread that comes down from heaven - the real daily bread. John 6:27-33
Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry,
and he who believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me will never thirst
any more (at any time). John 6:35
The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

We Need God's Help to Become Obedient - We Need

His Powerful Grace

To the degree we are able, we are to obey the moral laws. But without help, it is
even impossible to completely love your neighbor as yourself; and without divine help, it
is impossible to love God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. And there are
other things, that no matter how hard we try, we can't do without obtaining
divine assistance, power through grace, to be changed for the better. A few examples:

● Getting angry at someone who treats us poorly or unfairly or unjustly, or even hurts
us. Jesus told us that whoever is angry with his brother, is subject to judgment.You can't
stop anger without being changed by lots of grace. Try turning the other cheek,
when someone next slaps you.

● John said, Anyone who hates his brother has committed murder in his heart. 1 John 3:15

● Just looking at woman with lust - Jesus tells us we have committed adultery in our
heart. You can't control this without help.

● Being addicted to alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, shopping, pornography, etc. - some are so
deep as to be genuine bondages that require supernatural help to break.

● Being addicted to pass-time pleasures of all sorts. Not that all pleasures are inherently
evil; but if we were to feel pain from stopping participation in them, they are an idol in
our life. And even if not addicted, the time we spend in their pursuit, is time we could
spend preparing for eternity, by seeking to hear and obey God. The love of the world
is enmity with God.

● Greed can be an addiction, or always wanting something more. That is idolatry -

wanting money or anything equal to or more than your desire to please God. All
of Christianity has forgotten covetousness. We systematically train our children to covet
by creating Christmas lists of wants. People go through life thinking if they just had
more money, or a new car, or a better house, or a vacation in Hawaii, they would be
happy; but once they get what they want, they have to focus on something else to believe in
as the solution to their happiness. See Fox for more on covetousness. Money is not evil; it
is the love of money that is evil.
 ● Inability to control our emotions and passions in general.

Addictions and bondages have to be broken with the help of God, his grace, his power
to change us. We don't get help by simply asking for it, (except occasionally he does grant
us special favors to get rid of serious substance addictions). We get help by humbly going
to him as a sinner and waiting on him to help us: by teaching us, counseling us,
commanding us, and guiding us out of spiritual Egypt, through the long dry wilderness,
until at last we reach the promise land of strength, purity, peace, love and joy - we receive
the fruit of the spirit by crucifying the sinful nature within us on the cross of Christ,
missing in today's Christianity. As we go to him, he gives us commands. Each of
these commands are individually tailored to our life's circumstances, as only our
creator knows how to help us. If we obey the words heard , they are written on our
heart, added to the inward law; and we receive power to walk as ordered until we
finally become pure. So we seek, listen, obey, seek, listen, obey..... seek, listen, obey,..
etc. This is the purification process. It is the crucifixion of the sinful nature. If we walk in
the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship .., and the blood of Jesus, his Son,
purifies us from all sin. 1 John 1:7

True Christianity is about a change in the heart - not saying prayers, water baptism,
eating bread and grape juice - all heathenish forms and ceremonies - some newly invented
by men since Judaism, but still forms and ceremonies - rituals, instead of changes in
the heart. These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts hold off and are
far distant from Me. In vain .. do they worship Me, ordering and teaching
as doctrines the commandments and precepts of men. Mark 7:5-7.

Religion is about a change of heart. Your heart and spirit must be broken by God, before
you can receive his powerful change by grace.

The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite
spirit. Psalm 34:18
(Contrite means: feeling or expressing pain or sorrow for sins or offenses.)
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, a broken and a contrite heart—these, O God,
You will not despise. Psalm 51:17
For thus says the High and Lofty One, who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy:
“ I dwell in the high and holy place, with him who has a contrite and humble spirit,
to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Isaiah 57:15

God wants to be worshiped in Spirit and Truth. He wants his spirit in you to be the source of your praise
and worship, not your carnal mind and your rebellious heart. Your heart has to be changed to be able
to worship in Spirit and Truth. Changes in the heart only take place from divine power through grace
- Christ, who is the Light, which is risen in the conscience, which purges and cleanses the conscience, by
his Spirit from dead works, to serve the living God. And until we can hear the Lord and follow his counsel
to become changed, the outward law is our schoolmaster, a reminder to us of our problems; and being
a motivator to repent from our old ways and to seek divine help to be even more different,
therefore becoming pleasing to God. While the law is our schoolmaster, we know the states Paul
described he once was: "for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I." Rom 7:15, and "it is
not longer I that sin, but the sin that remains in me, Rom 7:17." Paul passed through both of these states,
and everyone must pass through these stages before you arrive at the liberty of the sons of God to
enjoy Christian freedom. (Paul's final state was: it is no longer I that live, but Christ within me.)

From George Fox's Journal:

I saw this law was the pure love of God which was upon me, and which I must go through, though I
was troubled while I was under it; for I could not be dead to the law but through the law, which judged
and condemned that which is to be condemned. I saw, many talked of the law, who had
never known the law to be their schoolmaster; and many talked of the gospel of Christ,
who had never known life and immortality brought to light in them by it. You that have
been under that schoolmaster, and the condemnation of it, know these things; for though the Lord
in that day opened these things unto me in secret, they have been since published by his eternal spirit, as
on the house top. And as you are brought into the law, and through the law to be dead to it, and
witness the righteousness of the law fulfilled in you, you will afterwards come to know what it
is to be brought into Christ, who is the author of, and you will have peace and access to God.

To enjoy Christian Freedom as a son of God, you must first be set free from sin.

This is done by going to God yourself; because everyone has his Spirit within them by grace. You have
no need of any teacher but the anointing within you. He is the Light that enlightens all men
who come into the world, the Life which is the Light of men. You sit quietly and whenever you think,
you think on the name of Jesus. This is how we learn from Him, get cleansed by Him, be led by
Him, and come to know Him. He said: "Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden
is light." He is the Light, he is the Word, and he has sent us the Spirit of Truth to teach us. If any man
hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev.
3:20. Eventually you will hear Him. He has a soft voice; that is why it is written, "Be still and know that I
am God." He will tell us things about Himself. He will encourage us. He is kindness. He will tell or show
us things about ourselves; some will be things that are ugly. Christ the Light will show us all the
hidden lusts, affections, and pride in our heart. But since he is our friend, we know that he is showing
them to us for our own good. So we listen and watch. And we don't run, we stand before the Son
of Man. And we repent of what he shows us. And sometimes he gives us commands. We are
hearing the Word of God, the living Word. As we hear the Word of God, (Jesus speaking through the
Spirit) our faith will increase by leaps and bounds; and keep increasing - if we obey his
commands heard and show him we love him by being obedient. Christ in you, the hope
of glory. Col 1:27

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show
you what he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a
foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could
not shake or move it, because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48. Upon this
rock, he builds his Church; by doing so, you have received the Christ within you as the Son of God;
your hearing and obeying him is true faith.

He can't make it any plainer! He said: come to me, listen to My words

(not the Bible), and do them.
To do them, is to obey; and when you obey them, you have received Christ by recognition and obedience.
From this sure foundation he builds true faith and hope
which eventually purifies you.

If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and
make our home with him. John 14:22-23

These above two teachings of Jesus are the core teachings of this web site:
1) Come to him, Listen to his words, do the words he gives you - obey his commands.
2) If you Love Jesus, you will obey him. The Father then loves you, and he and Jesus come to you and
make their home with you;
and their home is the Kingdom of God within you. They dwell in a pure heart.

Write what you hear down is a notebook; review your commands periodically so you don't forget one,
and keep repenting. Rev 3:2-3

The Lord has said to me: "Where there is obedience, there is righteousness; without it, you
have World War II."
Even Adolph Hitler said Jesus was his Lord and Savior. - a sinner saved by grace???? WHILE
NOT OBEDIENT???

He [Jesus] became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and
obey Him. Heb 5:9
(And how do you obey Him to attain salvation?)

Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My
people. Jer 7:23

If you abide in My word, [that you hear] you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and the
truth will set you free. John 8:31-32.
So if the Son liberates you, then you are really and unquestionably free. John 8:36
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works[sin] in us - if we go
to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of
the devil. 1 John 3:8

You are the slaves of him whom you obey, whether that be to sin, which leads to death, or to
obedience which leads to righteousness. Rom 6:16.
If we are a slave to sin, he can't be our Lord. You cannot serve two masters. Mat 16:24 Luke 16:13
We are incapable of being controlled or ruled until our sinful nature is destroyed, at least enough to
be Spirit led. Rom 8:13-14

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

Since you have been set free from sin and have become the slaves of God, you have
your present reward in holiness and its end is eternal life Rom 6:22.

Man, who originally followed his creator in obedient love, became a rebel to decide his
own way, taking thought, judging what is good and bad for himself. When man is
restored into the image of God, he ceases to make his own decisions; instead returning
to reverent, loving obedience to his creator, of him and of the universe. Part of
this restoration is to destroy the rebellious, self-seeking, self-gratifying mind. This is
a lengthy process for most. And as the mind is destroyed, the Lord's guidance fills the
void. When our selfish nature is slain, we will receive the Spirit of Christ, so that we will
be obedient in our love for God - and our obedience is by choice, God not having taken
away our free will. Love never insists on its own way. But our love for God will make
our obedience to his every wish to be the joy of our life. For never forget - he loves us
beyond measure - so whatever he asks will be to our ultimate benefit and total satisfaction.
So we obey his every gentle prompting and leading, to both our and his great joy.

So that we lead every thought and purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ
(the Messiah, the Anointed One), 2 Cor 10:5. So that we have the mind of Christ (the
Messiah) and do hold the thoughts (feelings and purposes) of His heart, 1 Cor 2:16. We must
put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to
the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the
new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness, Eph 4:22-
24. This does not mean we continue to think with a new set of rules we have learned from
the Bible. No; the carnal mind, which is inimical to God, must be destroyed so that we do
not think for ourselves any longer. Instead as a new creature, we rely on the
promptings received from God, just like Christ did when he walked the earth; as he said:

I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true;
and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. John 8:26

the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I
should speak.
And I know that His command is everlasting life.
Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50

the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);

but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing,
for whatever the Father does is what the Son does in the same way. John 5:19

I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous,

because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

So, even Christ did not make his own decisions. Notice, Jesus said he only did the will of
the Father, not his own. In Mat. 7:21, Jesus said: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord,
Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
So here Jesus tells us what is necessary to go to heaven - to do nothing of ourselves - to
only say what we hear the father tell us to say- to only do what the Father shows us to do -
to only judge how we are told to judge by the Father. So, we are not to think for ourselves
- we are to only follow the promptings of the Father. We must have our carnal
mind destroyed to the point that we speak and act from the promptings of the Spirit of
God; this is the end of obedience - to think, speak, and act according to God's
promptings. You have probably prayed the Lord's prayer a thousand times, saying "thy
will be done, in earth as it is in heaven," without a clue as to how it could be done. Now
you know what it takes - and it is not easily accomplished - only with dedication to seek
the Kingdom of God as your first priority, with perseverance, and with obedience to
every command you hear.

Perhaps you are now beginning to see how the false gospels, which dismiss the cross as
a necessity, spread so quickly. The cross is bearable, but not easy. It is not easy to lose
your life. It is not easy to forsake everything. It is not easy to suffer. So any alternative to
the cross, which supposedly allows one to escape Hell, is eagerly received with
false doctrines and lies that quickly became pervasive.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own
lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn
away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it
this way. But what will you do in the end? Jer 5:31

For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as
enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach,
and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. Phil 3:18-19
But the cross is bearable. As Jesus told us: even prostitutes and tax collectors were
entering the Kingdom in his time. As Isaiah tells us: the simple ones and fools, shall not
err in it and lose their way. Isa 35:8. What you lose is the the liberty of worry, fear, and anxiety
in trying to make the best decision, to say the right words, to do the right thing; never being sure,
and frequently being wrong. What you gain is to have God's direction in everything, with confidence that
he knows all, and whatever his will is for you, is inherently perfect, without flaw - and always to
your ultimate benefit. So you are free from worry, doubt, fear - free from having to analyze and choose -
free to live in love, free to follow virtue; free from the law; confident, and assured your life is one of
noble purpose and results. Being filled with God's love, you are then free to show that love to the
world; and to show your love for God, in your continued choice to obey his commands and
promptings, which will be your greatest joy. And free to have fellowship with Christ and the
Father, in the light - basking in their presence, filled with and experiencing their
constant love.

A major reason Christ died on the cross, was to show us by example the extent of
obedience required; for as he went to the cross in loving obedience to God, so we also
must obey the promptings and commands of God, to crucify our sinful nature on the
inward cross of self-denial.

If those who hear will obey, their progress will be swift. Voice of the Lord 3/4/8

Those who follow their own brain will weep and mourn; there will be great pain. Voice of the
Lord 3/04/08

Yes, the Law must be fulfilled in us; Christ must change us to become like himself so we
too fulfill the Law. Until we are under control by the Spirit of God, the outward Law is
our schoolmaster, reminding us of our shortcomings. We must pass through the time
of impurity, seeking purity, with the law sounding our deficiencies and transgressions to
our sorrow and resulting in our motivation to seek divine help to change. If we ignore
the law and its requirements for good conduct, reminding us to find God's help to be rid
of sin, we are hopelessly locked into sin, with the condemnation of the Lord sure to
follow. So we walk by the inward law that Christ writes in our hearts, until we are
pure. Becoming pure, we are filled with love.

Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Mat 5:8 (without a pure
heart, you will never see God)
When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in [the splendor
of His] glory. Col 3:4
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. (for we to be like
him means we are pure, holy, and perfect.)
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.1 John 3:2-3
Unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin
unto salvation. Heb 9:28

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat 5:18

And the world passes away and disappears, and with it the forbidden cravings
(the passionate desires, the lust) of it. 1 John 2:17

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another
has fulfilled the law.
For this: Thou shall not commit adultery, Thou shall not kill, Thou shall not steal, Thou
shall not bear false witness, Thou shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment,
it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shall love thy neighbor as
thyself. Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Rom 13:8-10

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou salt love thy neighbor
as thyself. Gal 5:14

When the Lord appears to complete your salvation, you will be filled with love and you
will totally walk by the love and light of God.

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication,
uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of
wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries,
and the like;
of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who
practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Those who practics such things [lawlessness] will be banned from heaven, and banned
from the Kingdom of Heaven forever.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
Against such there is no law.

As James Parnell has so well stated in his memoir:

“And thus is the church of Christ gathered by one Spirit, and by the same circumcised,
and baptized into one life, light, and power, where all dwell as members of one body,
of which Christ is the head. And here is the blessed union and communion in one; and here
is God worshipped ‘in spirit and in truth;’ and as Christ is spiritual, so is [His church,
which is] His body, and so are His ordinances; and here are the true Christians, not
those who have the imagination of these things, but they that can witness [testify to
the reality], and possess them in life. They that believe, have passed from death into life;
and the life they now live is by faith in the Son of God; they are new creatures, who are
‘in Christ Jesus,’ to whom there is no condemnation, who walk not after the flesh, but
after the Spirit; against such there is no law, for they are translated out of that
nature, [translated into the higher dimension of the Kingdom of Heaven] for which the
law was added; and are set free by the law of the Spirit of life, and are made partakers of
the divine nature of Christ, by which they are made Christians. And such now witness
the effect of the blood of Christ wrought within them, and the end of His coming, and
the benefit of His death, who are dead with him, and risen through the death of the
cross; and these are those who have escaped the pollutions of the world through
the knowledge of the Son of God within them; Christ within, the hope of glory.”

For more on the continued requirements of the law, see Margaret Fox's outstanding
writing on this site.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Criticisms of George Fox Answered

Text in light blue or bold light blue can be clicked on - to take you to the scriptural verse or other writings that confirms the text.

There exists a body of sadly believed myths about George Fox, mostly with the modern Quakers. They try
to sully their principal founder's reputation, so that they can extinguish the requirement of Christ
for salvation, thereby easing their doubts regarding their own next-life's destiny. Their attacks on a
dead man, who cannot answer their slanders, are in serious error and the below answers:

1) Criticism : Fox is accused of basically being an uncouth, country simpleton, obviously deluded, who
was void of manners and established a religion on superficial tenets such as addressing people as thee
and thou, failing to remove their hats in respect, refusing to swear in court or take common oaths of
loyalty to the king, and failure to pay their tithe taxes.

Answer : The Quaker religion is rooted in the belief of the light within all men being the covenant of
God, the life of man, Christ, which can teach a man how to live pleasing to God, convict him of his sin,
and remove the desire to sin from his heart. The repetition of such conviction and removal of sin,
resulting in purification, perfection, holiness, union with God, and entrance into his glorious kingdom.
Such faith is hardly superficial. The four visible practices referred to above were not the invention of
Fox, but the commands of Christ, and were given for the following reasons:

a) Thee and thou - In Fox's time, the use of thee and thou was taught in the schools as proper forms
of singular address. Only servants and people of lower class were addressed in the singular, thee and
thou. People of the upper class wanted to be addressed in the plural, you, which was to honor them.
The honoring of "important" people with the plural address is what God "laid to the dust." The Lord
showed his contempt for respect of persons due to class or position, and so commanded his people also.

b) Failure to remove hats in respect - At this time in England, hats were worn in church, the
clergy preached in them, they were worn at dinner, and, as a rule, more generally than in modern times.
The few occasions when they were taken off were more distinctly occasions of respect. A son must
always uncover before his father, every one uncovered before the king, and uncovered to anyone of class
or position such as the nobility. The Quakers called this the hat-honor, which they refused to give to
man, including to judges in court; resulting in their being fined or imprisoned for such failure to uncover
in honor. They removed their hats only in prayer as an act of worship. Thus they reversed the hat-
honor from what society was paying to man and refusing to God, to be paying to God and refusing to man.

c)Swearing - Jesus said: Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break
your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord'. But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either
by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of
the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply
let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Mat 5:33-7

James said: Above all, my brothers, do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else.
Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned. James 5:12

d) Tithes - The priesthood of Aaron and the sons of Levi, which had commandments to take tithes from
the people, died with Christ's sacrifice of himself, establishing Christ as the everlasting priest of
an everlasting priesthood. So tithing died when the old priesthood died, when the Law died. Tithing
died with the Levitical priesthood; the only places tithing is referenced in the New Testament is the claim
of the self-righteous Pharisee, and the explanation of its death in Hebrews Chapter 7. To demand or
pay tithes, denies the sacrifice of Christ, to create his new, everlasting priesthood, nullifying the
old. Therefore, anyone who takes tithes is a false prophet, antichrist, and a deceiver; and anyone
who continues to pay tithes is denying Christ's priesthood; both are subject to God's condemnation.

The criticism of the early Quaker religion being superficial and based on uncouth country people's
ideas, only betrays the snobbish ignorance of the those making the charges. In truth, the Quaker religion
re-established the true Church of Christ, showing the way for man to be reconciled to God, renewed into
his image, restored to the dignity of Adam before the fall, and then to enter into union with Christ and
the Father; no one of reasonable intelligence would call this a superficial doctrine.

Regarding Fox being an uncouth country simpleton: It is true he had no formal education and he grew up
in a country setting. However, he was anything but uncouth and simple. William Penn, the founder
of Pennsylvania, speaker of five languages, a friend of both the French and English royal courts, educated
at Oxford, and dear friend of George Fox describes him thusly:

He was a man that God endowed with a clear and wonderful depth, a discerner of others' spirits, and
very much a master of his own. And though his understanding of worldly matters, and especially
his expressions relating to the them, might sound uncouth and unfashionable to nice ears, his center
was nevertheless very profound; and the closer one examined him, the greater his qualities showed
and taught by example. And as abruptly and brokenly as sometimes his sentences would fall from him
about divine things, it is well known they were often used as texts to many fairer declarations. And indeed,
it showed beyond all contradiction that God had sent him, and that nothing of man had any share in
the matter or manner of his ministry. So many great, excellent, and necessary truths as he preached
to mankind, showed nothing of man's knowledge or wisdom to validate them. So that as a man, he was
an original, being no man's copy. And his ministry and writings show they are from one who was not
taught by man, nor had he learned what he said by study. Nor were his teachings imaginary or
speculative. His teachings were sensible and practical truths, tending to conversion and regeneration,
and the setting up the Kingdom of God in the hearts of men; and the way of the Kingdom was his work.
So that many times I have been overcome in myself, and been made to say with my Lord and master at
such times, 'I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from
the wise and prudent of this world, and revealed them to babes.' For many times has my soul bowed in
a humble thankfulness to the Lord, that he did not choose any of the wise and learned of this world to be
the first messenger in our age of his blessed truth to men. Instead he took one who was not of high
degree, or elegant speech, or learned after the way of this world. He chose so that his message and
work, which he sent him to do, might come with less suspicion or jealousy of human wisdom and
interest. And so the message might have more force and clearness upon the consciences of those
that sincerely sought the way of truth in the love of it. I saw, beholding with the eye of my mind, which
the God of heaven had opened in me, the marks of God's finger and hand visibly showing in this
testimony. It was evidenced by the clearness of the principle, the power and effectiveness of it in
the exemplary sobriety, plainness, zeal, steadiness, humility, gravity, punctuality, charity, and
circumspect care in the government of church affairs, which shined in his and their life and testimony
that God employed in this work. Thus it greatly confirmed to me that it was of God, and engaged my soul
in a deep love, fear, reverence, and thankfulness for his love and mercy therein to mankind; in which mind
I remain, and shall, I hope, to the end of my days.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the great poet and philosopher, who along with Wordsworth was one of
the founders of the Romantic Movement in England, wrote of Fox the following:

"One assertion I will venture to make, as suggested by my own experience, that there exists folios on
the human understanding and the nature of man, which would have a far juster claim to their high rank
and celebrity, if in the whole huge volume there could be found as much fullness of heart and intellect
as bursts forth in many a simple page of George Fox." ( from his Biographia Literaria).

The 20th Century leader of the Quakers, Rufus Jones, described Fox as an escapist, because Fox
was concerned about the preaching the Gospel of Christ, rather than social reform, like Jones. Since
modern Quakers had never experienced purity and the Kingdom as did Fox and tens of thousands of
early Quakers, the later so-called Quakers doubted the possibility, dismissing Fox and the rest of
their society's founders as deluded. (This phenomena was beginning to occur as early as 1670; see
Stephen Crisp's 1670 Letter of warning. )

Thomas Ellwood, who personally knew Fox, summarizes his impression of him as follows:

He was valiant for the truth, bold in asserting it, patient in suffering for it, unwearied in laboring in it,
steady in his testimony to it; immovable as a rock. Deep he was in divine knowledge, clear in
opening heavenly mysteries, plain and powerful in preaching, fervent in prayer. He was richly endued
with heavenly wisdom, quick in discerning, sound in judgment, able and ready in giving, discreet in
keeping counsel; a lover of righteousness, an encourager of virtue, justice, temperance, meekness,
purity, chastity, modesty, humility, charity, and self-denial in all, both by word and example. Graceful
he was in countenance, manly in personage, grave in gesture, courteous in conversation, weighty
in communication, instructive in discourse; free from affectation in speech or carriage. A severe reprover
of hard and obstinate sinners; a mild and gentle admonisher of such as were tender, and sensible of
their failings; not apt to resent personal wrongs; easy to forgive injuries; but zealously earnest where
the honor of God, the prosperity of truth, the peace of the church were concerned. Very
tender, compassionate, and pitiful he was to all that were under any sort of affliction; full of brotherly
love, full of fatherly care. For indeed the care of the churches of Christ was daily upon him, the
prosperity and peace of which he studiously sought. Beloved he was of God, beloved of God's people;
and, (which was not the least part of his honor), the common butt of all apostates' envy, despite the fact
that he earnestly sought their good.

Read a few of his letters yourself. You will realize you are reading words from the Spirit of God, just
like Paul's letters. [King Agrippa thought Paul was mad too.]

2) Criticism: Fox was very judgmental, rude, and not loving.

Answer : Fox was critical of sin in unbelievers, but with the patience for them to see the futility of
their ways. Here is an an example of how he wrote to the world:

"Take heed of pleasures, and prize your time now while you have it; do not spend it in pleasures
or earthliness. The time may come that you will say; you had time, when it is past. Therefore look at the
love of God now while you have time; for it brings you to loathe all vanities and worldly pleasures.
Oh consider, time is precious; fear God and rejoice in him who has made heaven and earth".

I am moved to warn you to take heed of giving way to your own wills. Love the cross; satisfy not your
own minds in the flesh; but prize your time while you have it, and conduct your life in obedience
to what you already know, in obedience to God; you will not be condemned for what
you don't know, but only condemned for that you know and choose not to obey.
Consider before it is too late, evaluate yourselves, see where you are, and whom you serve. For if
you blaspheme God, and take his name in vain, if you swear and lie, if you give way to envy,
hatred, covetousness, and greediness, pleasures and indulgence, or any other vices, be assured that
you serve the devil; but if you fear the Lord and serve him, you will loathe all these things. He that
loves God, will not blaspheme his name: but where there is opposing of God, and serving the devil,
that profession is sad and miserable. Oh! Prize your time, and do not love that which God forbids;
lying, wrath, malice, envy, hatred, greediness, covetousness, oppression,
gluttony, drunkenness, whoredom, and all unrighteousness, God does forbid. So consider,
evil communication corrupts good manners. Be not deceived, God will not be mocked with vain words;
the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness. Therefore obey that which convinces
you of all evil, and tells you that you should do no evil: it will lead to repentance, and keep you in
the fear of the Lord. Oh! Look at the mercies of God, prize them, and do not turn them into
unrestrained behaviors. Oh! Eye the Lord and not earthly things!

Like Jesus, Fox criticized sin, but never the sinner, who did not claim to be a 'saved' Christian.
However, Fox was slightly critical of those who named themselves Christians, but who failed to walk as
a Christian. Here is an example:

You follow those who seek their gain from their position, greedy dumb dogs that never have enough,
Isa 56:11; and those who bear rule by their status; and hold up the horrible, filthy thing in the land.
Take away their status, and they will not rule you through their position. You follow those who are
hirelings, and they preach peace to you; but if you fail to put food in their mouths, they will prepare
war against you, (as you may read in Micah 3:5). These are like those whom the Lord sent Micah to
cry against, and are senseless children, foolish people, wise in doing evil, but have no understanding
of doing good, (as you may read in Jeremiah 4:22). These seek for the fleece and devour you; people like
the Lord sent Ezekiel to cry against, Eze 34. But, "said the Lord, I will gather my sheep from their
mouths; they shall be a prey to them no longer." Here, with the holy men of God, you are judged
among those who these holy men cried against. With the light you are all seen, who hold up such men
before mentioned, and who men call ministers of Christ, which are found to be among them whom the
holy men of God cried woe against. With the light you are all seen, and with the light they are
all condemned. So cover you lips and stop your mouths for shame, for ever saying these men are
the ministers of Christ; the same type as whom the Lord sent his prophets to cry against. With his son
and with the scriptures, they are all proved and seen, and you that support them too; those who receive
gifts and rewards, the wages of unrighteousness, which the Lord sent his holy apostles to cry against;
those who through covetousness and pretended words have made merchandise of you. Listen. With the
light and the life of the scriptures, you and they are seen and condemned by the light, who hate the
light, and act contrary to the light, and that profess the scriptures to be your rule. With the light they are
all seen to be strangers from the life of God, being among those whom the holy apostles and prophets
cried against. You, who follow such men, are like the silly women that are led captive, never able to come
to the knowledge of the truth, some still learning twenty, thirty, forty, even sixty years of more;
ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, as you may read in Timothy, and
Peter, and Jude. You that follow such people, do not hear the son of God...

But, for those who preached and taught in error without the words from the Spirit of God, Fox's
criticisms were definitely harsh.
He was critical of religious leaders in hopes of motivating them to stop teaching the words of the
Bible, without the words of the Spirit. Here is an example, Fox writing to the Puritan priest of Ulverstone,
to which Margaret Fox listened before she became a Quaker.

The word of the Lord to you, 0h Lampitt! You are a deceiver, surfeited and drunk with the earthly
spirit, rambling up and down in the scriptures, and blending your spirit among the saints' conditions.
You had a prophecy, as your father Balaam had; but you erred from it, as your father did. One whose
fruit has withered, (of which I am a witness), and many who have known your fruit have seen the end of
it, that it is withered; and do see where you are, in the blind world, a blind leader of the blind; a
beast wallowing and tumbling in the earth and in the lust; one that is erred from the spirit of the Lord, of
old ordained to condemnation. You are in the seat of the Pharisees, are called master by men, stand
praying in the synagogues, and have the chief seat in the assemblies; a right hypocrite in the steps of
the Pharisees, and in the ways of your fathers, the hypocrites, which our Lord Jesus Christ cried woe
against. Such with the light you are seen to be, and by the light are comprehended; which is
your condemnation who hate it, and will be so eternally except you repent. To you this is the word
of God; for in Christ's way you are not, but in that of the Pharisees, as you may read in Mat 23. All that
own Christ's words can see you in the Pharisees way. Christ, who died at Jerusalem, cried woe against
 your kind; and Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The woe remains upon you, and from
under it you can never escape, except through judgment, condemnation, and true repentance. To you
this is the word of God. To that of God in your conscience I speak, which will witness the truth of what
I write, and will condemn you. And when you are in your torment, (though now you swell in your vanity,
and live in wickedness), remember you were warned in your lifetime. When the eternal condemnation
is stretched over you, you shall witness this to be the word of the Lord God to you; and if ever
your eye should see repentance, you would witness me to have been a friend of your soul. (Notice Fox
speaks the words from the Spirit of God, often in the presence of God, in the Kingdom of God; click here
to see more examples).

But in his day, Christ was also extremely judgmental of those who taught religion in error. For example,
here is what Christ had to say about those preachers and teachers who had not been purified within
their hearts:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

You make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within are full of extortion and excess.
You are blind, first cleanse the inside of the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be
clean also.
You are like whitewashed tombs, outwardly beautiful, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of
all uncleanness.
So you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full
of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:25-28

See Jesus' Criticisms for many more.

And John the Baptist had this to say about hypocritical religious leaders:

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,
he said unto them, O GENERATION OF SNAKES, who has warned you to flee from the wrath to
come? Matt. 3:7

Yes, Fox was very critical of the religious teachers, priests/preachers, and to a lesser degree, to the
professed believers of his day.
But that is because they were false Christians - they had not been changed in heart, purified, crucified
of their lusts and affections.
To be a preacher, they must be trained and authorized by Christ himself, with his spirit guiding their words.
Those who taught error were blind guides, leading others into the ditch and to destruction.

By the 1800's on, Quakers in general judged their founder's criticisms and vocal opposition to the
Protestant and Catholic sects and priests to be appalling. The later Quakers judged their founders to
be intolerant, rude, unloving, judgmental, etc.This is the case of unfinished men of the flesh judging
a spiritual man obviously under control of the Spirit of God; likewise also these filthy dreamers defile
the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities, Jude 1:8-10. Fox and many of the early Quakers were
in the Kingdom of Heaven, therefore heavenly dignities, deserving of respect. A man of the flesh is
without understanding and supremely arrogant to judge a man of the spirit. A man of the flesh
cannot comprehend the degree to which false prophets are held in contempt by God, and therefore
spared no extent of verbal lashing, especially when in a debate with others listening who might have
been misled.

Further, Paul said: if any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him
be accursed, Gal 1:9; and For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of
the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things
which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake; Titus 1:10-11. (They preached for money, against the commands
of Christ and command of Peter.) Preaching a false formula for salvation, which is a false
gospel, immeasurably damages the work of Christ; and must be vigorously opposed - as Fox did.
Babylon has sinned, all you that bend the bow, shoot at her; spare no arrows, for she
has sinned, Jer 50:14.

So, Fox was doing his duty to God by being critical of those who talked the scriptures, but did not
walk according to the same spirit that wrote the scriptures. To talk of religion, while continuing in
sin - is being a hypocrite. To say Fox was not loving and judgmental, is to say Jesus, Peter, Paul,
and Jude were judgmental and unloving. Such critics do not know the scriptures.

3) Criticism : Fox was a dictator, telling people in the Society what they could and could not do,
insisting on certain conduct and ways of worship, that violate the individual human conscience. Even
today, there are books being sold, written by a Quaker Universalist, that make this exact charge against
Fox; and this classic hit-piece further spins him as a hypocrite in first saying everything is up to
the individual's conscience, and then reversing himself to insist on standards within the church.

Answer: Fox was frequently criticized similarly in his day. Here is what Fox said regarding the
charges against him:
 All that deny regulations without prescriptions may as well deny all the scriptures, which were given forth
by the power and spirit of God. For do they not prescribe how men should walk towards God and man,
both in the Old Testament and in the New? Yes, from the very first promise of Christ in Genesis,
what people ought to believe and trust in; and all along until you come to the prophets? Did not the
Lord prescribe to his people by the fathers and then by his prophets? Did he not prescribe to the people
how they should walk, though they turned against the prophets in the old covenant for declaring
or prescribing to them the way how they might walk to please God, and keep in favor with him? In the
days of Christ, did he not prescribe and teach how people should walk and believe? And after him, did
not the apostles prescribe unto people how they might come to believe, and receive the gospel and
the kingdom of God, directing unto that which would give them the knowledge of God, and how they
should walk in the new covenant in the days of the gospel, and by what way they should come to the
holy city? And did not the apostles send forth their decrees by faithful chosen men (that had hazarded
their lives for Christ's sake), to the churches, by which they were established? So you, that
deny prescriptions given forth by the power and spirit of God, do thereby oppose the spirit that gave
them forth in all the holy men of God. .. This spirit cries, "We must not judge conscience, we
must not judge matters of faith, we must not judge spirits, or religions." ..There is a loose
spirit that cries for liberty, and against prescriptions, yet is prescribing ways, both by words and
writings. The same spirit cries against judging, and would not be judged, yet is judging with a wrong spirit.

George Fox

Here is what Jesus said about those who sinned in the church:

If your brother wrongs you, go and show him his fault, between you and him privately. If he listens to
you, you have won back your brother.
But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two others, so that every word may be confirmed
and upheld by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
If he pays no attention to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him
be to you as a pagan and a tax collector. Matthew 18:15-17

Here is what Paul says about discipline in the church:

But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is
known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to anything
that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering],
or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. You must not so much as eat with such a person. 1 Cor 5:11

Fox clarifies what Paul wrote above:

So the apostle here does not speak of the fornicators, and covetous idolaters, and extortionists of the
world, which were outside of the church; for God judges such. But the saints, the apostles, and the
true church were to judge those that practiced such things within the church, showing the true
christian's church had a power; and not to keep company nor to eat with such, professing Christ, that
were of such practices, knowing that the unrighteous should not inherit the kingdom of God, nor
drunkards, nor fornicators, thieves, railers, extortionists, nor covetous idolaters; they that lived in
these evils, were not like to inherit the kingdom of God; for they were defiled, unwashed, and not
sanctified nor justified, etc. So that if the saints did keep company, or did eat with such
unwashed, unsanctified, unjustified persons, or have fellowship with them, they took the members of
Christ and joined them to an harlot; for he that is joined to an harlot, is one body; ‘for two,’ said he, ‘shall
be one flesh.’

And from Fox's Letter 251:

And all such as cry, 'Away with your laws, we will have none of your laws.' To such as come to
the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, which makes free from the law of sin and death, and puts
down that authority; which life was before death and sin were, and remains when they are gone; and in
the life in Christ Jesus, is the saints' fellowship and unity and bond of peace. All such as cry against laws
so much, are the sons of Belial, and would be without the yoke of the law of the son of God. Such
always were the stirrers up of mischief and schism from the body, and they took liberty to say anything;
as you may read in the book of Kings, in the days of Jezebel, and in the days of Stephen; and yet these
that cry so much against laws, yet they live themselves in the law of sin and death; which they obey
when they do evil; who are without the understanding of the righteous law, which the righteous live in
and see. Therefore, such must be exhorted and reproved, if they go under the name of Quakers, and are
not in the life.

George Fox

Here is what William Penn, who knew him well, had to say about Fox's supposed heavy hand within
the Society:
 In all these occasions, though George Fox was the target of this discontent, he bore all their weakness
and prejudice, and did not return harshness and accusation for what he received from them. Instead,
he forgave them their weak and bitter speeches, praying for them that they might have a sense of their
hurt, and see the subtlety of the enemy to rend and divide, and return into their first love that thought no ill.

And truly, I must say, that though God had visibly clothed him with a divine preference and authority,
and indeed his very presence expressed a religious majesty, yet he never abused it, but held his place in
the church of God with great meekness, and a most engaging humility and moderation. For upon
all occasions, like his blessed master, he was a servant to all, holding and exercising his eldership in
the invisible power that had gathered them, with reverence to the Head and care over the body.
His eldership was received only in that spirit and power of Christ, as the first and chief elder in this age.
He was therefore worthy of double honor, so for the same reason it was given by the faithful of this
day; because his authority was inward and not outward, and that he got it and kept it by the love of God
and power of an endless life. I write of my own knowledge and not hearsay, and my witness is true,
having been with him for weeks and months together on many occasions; and those occasions being close
to him in most difficult of circumstances. And that by night and by day, by sea and by land, in this and
in foreign countries; I can say, I never saw him out of his place, or not a match for every service or occasion.

For in all things he acquitted himself like a man; yes a strong man, a new and heavenly-minded man.
A divine, and a naturalist, and all of God Almighty's making. I have been surprised at his questions
and answers in natural things; that while he was ignorant of useless and sophisticated science, he had in
him the grounds of useful and commendable knowledge, and cherished it everywhere. Civil beyond all
forms of breeding in his behavior; very temperate, eating little and sleeping less, though a bulky person.

Almost every early Quaker referred to George Fox as Dear George Fox. The testimonies of Penn,
Ellwood, and thirty others on this site regarding the humility, honesty, and sincerity of Fox, come from
men who had a deep faith in Jesus Christ, who were committed to absolute honesty, who went to prison
in fear of God for refusal to swear, knowing the judgment of God was against all untruth. Contrast the
early Quakers' commitment to truth compared to today's Quaker Universalist critics, who don't see any
need for Jesus Christ in their next life, and who have a disdain for their founder's, (Fox's), confirmation
as Jesus being the only way to salvation through the inward cross of self-denial. Since there are two
different reports of Fox's character: the first from eye witnesses, who lived in the fear and awe of God; and
a second from Universalist, armchair critics 300 years later, who have no fear of God - which is
more believable?

4) Criticism: Fox was not sufficiently forgiving of James Naylor, when he fell. When Naylor was
severely punished by Parliament, far beyond what his silly lapse of judgment deserved, Robert Rich,
a merchant of London, held his hand during and kissed his wounds after. Fox critics say Rich exhibited
true forgiveness, while Fox himself should also have been there helping Naylor.

Answer : They fail to understand that Robert Rich was one the fawning admirers, (per Sewel* ),
whose flatteries contributed to Naylor's original decline; and for any Quaker to have continued to
associate with him, would only have continued to blacken the reputation of the Quakers. More
importantly, at this point Naylor had yet to arrive at repentance, continuing to try to justify his actions,
even during his trial and interviews afterwards. After his gruesome, undeserved punishments and while
in solitary confinement at Bridewell prison, (per Sewel), the scales fell from his eyes; he could see
his grievous error. Naylor himself said then, "My heart is broken for the offense I have occasioned
God's truth and people." Sewel also reports that Robert Rich went on to ally himself with John Perrot,
a Quaker who left the Society and became a severe enemy of Quakers, writing two critical books
against Quakers, ( The Spirit of the Hat and Tyranny and Hypocrisy Detected), and was even
caught forging Edward Burrough's name to a scandalous document, and who later severely
persecuted Quakers in America for failure to swear. Fox critics are wrong again.

*Sewel's The History of the Quaker, Vol 1., pp.178-194. This work was published in 1695, thirty years

after the incident with interviews of eye witnesses, including one of the group of Naylor's fawning
admirers, particularly Hannah Stranger, who had since been restored to unity of the Spirit. Sewel
is considered the definitive historian of the early Quaker movement.

Sewel's report of Naylor's lack of repentance is confirmed by two letters from Richard Hubberthorne
to Margaret Fell, after visiting Naylor in prison. Quoting his report from the letter: (From Friends
Library, Vol. XI, 1847, page 338.)

London, 25th of Ninth month, [eleventh mo.] 1656

Upon sixth day, I was with James. The power of darkness in the women rules over him, as I wrote to you at
first. Many people come daily to them, both of the world, and also such as are convinced; and they wonder at
the imitations that are acted among them; as they will often kneel before him, &c. James speaks pretty much
to Friends as in justifying all their actings as innocent. I was moved to speak to him when I was with him, -
but he was not willing to hear me open the truth to anything to the people...all the counsel of the brethren to
him is rejected in the present state in which he is, though bowels of tenderness have been extended towards
him. ...Some that are unstable think there is a great power among them; but though as a cloud darkens some
at the present, - being risen out of the earth, - at the end of the days of limitation, it will fall to the earth
again, the sun will shine over it.
 and

[In a letter dated London, 22nd of Twelfth month, second month 1657,] he writes thus ;—]

As for James Nayler he remains in Bridewell, and is kept close; they will not allow any Friends to come at
him, but his wife gets to him sometimes. He is still in the separation from Truth and from Friends; but the
work of God goes on and prospers. Alexander Parker is here; Edward Burrough is in Essex; and Francis
Howgill in Kent.

From the same source in a later letter from Richard Hubberthorne, he reports that Naylor's
women followers appointed public meetings at the places where Naylor was previously punished, bringing
a great offence to the way of the Truth here for the present.

[See for Fox's letter (very kind, but strong) to Naylor, even before he was arrested].

And finally, consider Fox's words themselves as his defense against this charge. Fox writing in his Journal:

"When Naylor came to London, he resisted the power of God in me and the truth that was declared to
him by me; this became one of his greatest burdens. But he finally came to see his error in going out, and
to condemn it; and after some time he repented; as in the printed relation of his repentance,
condemnation, and recovery may be more fully seen.

James Naylor was a monument of human frailty. His gift in the ministry was eminent;
his experience in divine things truly great. He fell through dropping his watchful guard
against deceitful spirits, but was restored through deep sufferings and unfeigned repentance. His
own writings are the most clear and lively description of the various dispensations
he underwent; some of them deserve to be transmitted to the latest posterity."

Despite Naylor's actions resulting in massive persecutions of Quakers, thus Fox has recorded his
Christian forgiveness of Naylor and even recommends his writings to posterity; yet in 2006 is still heard
the false charge from modern Fox critics: "Fox never forgave James Naylor for his error!" Further,
William Dewsbury reports he arranged and attended a meeting of reconciliation, between Fox and
Naylor, along with Edward Burrough, Francis Howgill. Dewsbury writes of the meeting:

The Lord laid it much upon me, that dear George Fox and James Naylor might meet together. My
travail was great in spirit, until the Lord answered; which, in the day he determined, was done. Mighty
was his [the Lord's] majesty among his people, in the day he healed up the breach, which had been so
long to the sadness of the hearts of many. The Lord clothed my dear brethren, George Fox,
Edward Burrough, Francis Howgill, with a precious wisdom; his healing Spirit did abound within them,
with the rest of the Lord's people there that day, according to their measure of the Lord's Spirit in
all, reached to embrace it with gladness of heart.

This criticism is totally without the facts.

5) Criticism: Fox's marriage to Margaret Fell was not on the up and up.

Answer: This is a popular, current slander among the modern Quakers. Let's examine the facts, of
which his critics are not aware:

a) Their marriage was eleven years after the death of Margaret's first husband, Judge Fell. This
certainly exceeds the before-remarriage, customary grieving period of one year .

b) Fox was commanded by Christ to marry Margaret. He thought marriage was beneath his state, and
was surprised to be asked to do so, only doing so without any desire on his part. From the
Cambridge Journal:

Walter Newton, a neighbor of my relatives, who had been an ancient Puritan said he had heard I was
married, and he asked me why I had gotten married? I told him, it was a testimony that all might come up
into the marriage, as it was in the beginning, and as a testimony that all might come up out of the wilderness
to the marriage of the lamb. And he said, he thought marriage was only for the procreation of children. I told
him: I never thought of any such thing, but married only in obedience to the power of the Lord; I
judged such things to be below me. [marriage and children]. I had foreseen this marriage in the seed, yet I
had no command to marry until six months ago, though people had long talked about my possible marriage.
Some peoples' minds were jumbled (mixed up, confused) about the marriage, but the Lord's power came
over all and laid all their spirits to rest, which some after confessed.

c) And, the degree to which he sought the protection of her children's wishes and property rights
was beyond anything of the time. From the Journal:

After a meeting in Gloucestershire, we traveled until we came to Bristol; where I met with Margaret Fell,
 who was come to visit her daughter Isabel Yeomens. I had seen from the Lord, a considerable time before,
that I should take Margaret Fell to be my wife; and when I first mentioned it to her, she felt the answer of
life from God thereunto. But though the Lord had opened this thing to me, yet I had not received a
command from him for the accomplishing of it then. Therefore I let the thing rest, and went on in the work
and service of the Lord, according as he led me; traveling up and down in this nation and through Ireland.
But now being at Bristol, and finding Margaret Fell there, it opened in me from the Lord that the thing
should be accomplished. After we had discussed the matter together, I told her, 'if she also was satisfied with
the accomplishing of it now, she should first send for her children:' which she did. When the rest of her
daughters arrived, I asked both them and her sons-in-law, 'if they had anything against it, or for it?' desiring
them to speak; and they all severally expressed their satisfaction with the proposal. Then I asked Margaret,
'if she had fulfilled her husband's will to her children?' she replied, ‘the children knew she had.' At this point
I asked them, 'whether, if their mother married, they should not lose by it?' and I asked Margaret, ‘whether
she had done anything in difference to it, which if so she might speak about it to the children?' the children
said, 'she had answered it to them, and desired me to speak no more of that. I told them, 'I was plain, and
would have all things done plainly; for I did not seek any outward advantage to myself.' So our intention of
marriage was laid before Friends both privately and publicly, to their full satisfaction, many of whom gave
testimony to it, for it was of God. Afterwards, a meeting being appointed for the marriage in the public
meeting-house at Broad Mead, in Bristol, we took each other in marriage; the Lord joining us together in the
honorable marriage, in the everlasting covenant and immortal seed of life. During the joining, living and
weighty testimonies were stated there by Friends, as they were moved of the heavenly power which united
us together. Then was a certificate, relating both the proceedings and the marriage, openly read, and signed
by the relations, and by most of the ancient Friends of that city; besides many others from several parts of
the nation.

Note: In confirmation of this, and showing the justice and conscientiousness that characterized
George Fox, in regard to property, and of his opinions being in advance of those then prevailing on
the subject, the following circumstances, related in his Journal, will serve to illustrate. Being prosecuted for
tithes against his wife’s estate at Swarthmore, William Mead, Margaret Fox's son-in-law, appeared before
the court, “when,” he says, "William Mead told the judges that I had engaged myself never to meddle with
my wife's estate. The judges could hardly believe that any man would do so; whereupon he showed them the
writing under my hand and seal; at which they were amazed." (The writing where he gave up any claim to
his wife-to-be's estate; the forerunner of today's pre-nuptial agreements.)

George Fox and Margaret Fell's marriage was beyond proper, without a hint of scandal, widely approved
by thousands within the Society. Fox married Margaret Fell in a state that placed him well above lust for
any woman; it was truly a marriage made in heaven, as commanded by the King of the Angels,
Christ himself.

6) Criticism: George Fox and Margaret Fell were in Lancaster prison together before they were
married, implying something was going on between them.

Answer: George Fox was imprisoned in solitary confinement in outer Lancaster castle, in a room
exposed to the winter storms without heat, in smoke so thick, he could not see the light of a candle,
and which threatened his suffocation. As described by an independent writer from Margaret Fox's Memoir:

"Fox's room was in the dungeon, and the window of what was his residence during many long,
dreary months is conspicuous over the greater part of the ancient town. It was evidently, at one period,
a room of considerable size, but in Fox's day it was old and ruinous. He could scarcely walk across
his apartment, because of the dilapidated state of the floor. The smoke that came from the other prisons
was so dense, that sometimes a burning candle was scarcely visible, and he was in imminent danger of
being choked; and the jailer was with difficulty persuaded to unlock one of the upper doors, in order to
let out the smoke. In wet weather [winter included] it rained upon his bed. The inconveniences of his
prison affected Fox to such a degree, during a cold and prolonged winter, that his body became swollen,
and his limbs benumbed. When he was brought up at the March assizes, 1665, he was so weak that he
could scarcely stand or move."

As further described by an independent writer in the same memoir of Margaret Fox, Margaret
was imprisoned in a collective room for Quakers, called the Quaker's room.

"Nor were Fox's friends in this neighborhood allowed to escape. Many of his followers, and among
them Margaret Fell, at whose house he had been apprehended, were also confined in the castle,
[Lancaster], where an apartment exists, still called the Quaker's room, because it was the scene of
the sufferings of many of these oppressed and unresisting Christians."

The slanderous criticism is totally without possibility, and only serves to show the bitterness of his
critics; 300 years after his death, he is still the object of envy and resentment - such being evidence of
the scripture: He that is born of the flesh persecutes him that is born of the spirit. Gal 4:29. It started
with Cain's envy of Able's favor by God, and continues today. And why did he murder him? Because his
own works were evil, and his brother's were righteous. Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you.
1 John 3:11-12

7) Criticism: Fox supposedly wrote a paper advocating that Parliament pass many laws to require
the destruction of all paintings, sculptures, music, and abolishing the speaking of a foreign tongue,
among many other ridiculous demands to enforce a beyond-Puritanical religion on the whole of
England. This paper was "discovered" in 2002 and gleefully published by Quaker Universalists, who
are critics of Fox because he clearly stated a faith in Christ is necessary for salvation. The paper was
titled: Fifty nine Particulars laid down for the Regulating things, and the taking away of
Oppressing Laws, and Oppressors, and to ease the Oppressed. Attempting to explain its obscurity,
the Quaker Universalists' spokesman further accuses Fox and the early Quakers of a conspiracy to
suppress the evidence of the paper.

Answer: In Fox's detailed Journals, there is absolutely no mention of this paper, nor of Fox
ever approaching Parliament on it; neither in the official Ellwood Journal, or the Cambridge Journal,
the unedited version constructed from Fox's handwritten original manuscripts by Penney in 1905.
Neither does Penney mention of any page torn from the original manuscripts the period of 1659, when
this paper supposedly took place; yet he does point out pages that were missing or torn in other
time periods. Further, Fox's Journal details his conversations with Cromwell, with Cromwell's guards,
with ministers, with other friends, etc.; and the Journal included several letters from Fox to
the Parliaments, which consistently appealed to them to stop persecutions, criticizing them for
public fasts, instructing them to the the true gospel, etc. In 1659, the Quakers had already been
massively persecuted by the Puritan Parliament. Quakers were going to Parliament to issue severe
warnings of their demise; Parliament was driving them away. So this suspect paper, not only does not
exist in Fox's detailed accounts of meetings and letters, but is totally incongruous with the events
and attitudes of Parliament at the time. I quote from page 334 of the Volume 1 of the Cambridge Journal,
in the time of 1659:

And many friends, being in prison at this time, several were moved to go to the several
parliaments, sometimes 2-300 at a time, to offer up themselves to lie in the same dungeons where
their friends lay, that they were in prison might go forth and not perish in the stinking dungeons and
jails. This we did in the love of God and our brethren, that they might not die in prison; and in love to
them [the Parliament] that they might not bring blood on their own heads; which [blood] would cry to
the Lord and bring his wrath and vengeance and plagues on them.

And then the Parliaments would be in a rage and sometimes send them word that they
would whip them [the Quakers] and send them home again. And many times soon after the Lord
would turn them [Parliament] out and send them home who had not power to do good in their day,
[the Lord overturned Parliament and sent the members home, who had not used their power in their day
to do good].

(Also see Early Quaker Letters for confirmation of this threat to whip the Quakers out of
Parliament's hallway back to their homes - in the same year that this suspect letter of outrageous
demands was delivered to Parliament. )

This was no time to submit requests to Parliament. Particularly when the Quakers were warning
Parliament that they were going to be removed, with the restoration of the monarchy to shortly come.

Some of the positions stated in this accused paper are not supported by any other Quaker writing of
record and seriously conflicts with the general message of all Early Quakers of that time, as stated
below: (from Memoir of Edward Burrough)

We witness [that] the coming of Christ in his kingdom, is not by might, nor power, nor pomp, nor glory
from without; nor by any law which is in the will of man. Our desires are that there should be no
law upon [the subject of] religion, for it needs no law to protect it. Pure religion and undefiled is
this; to loose the bands of wickedness, to set the oppressed free, and to take off every yoke. We are none
of those who despise government, and defile the flesh; who pull down others to exalt themselves.

Fox repeatedly warned the early Quakers not to meddle with the powers of the world. See his Journal
and his Letters. Also see the General Meeting's advice to all the assemblies, which echoes the advice to
stay out of meddling with the outward powers. This was fundamental because, (as predicted
in Revelations), they had seen how the Roman Catholics mixed with the emperors and kings , and
how Martin Luther, having received protection from the Catholic persecutors, gave his sanction to
an alliance between the Church and the State in Saxony - such mixtures being fornication with the kings
of the earth. William Penn stated that the great mistake of the Protestants reformers was: rather
than patiently suffer persecution for their beliefs, they ran to the powers of the earth for protection
- resulting in a compromise of principles.

From Sidney Fisher's The True Penn, p. 71: "the Quakers as a class kept out of political life......"

This is in harmony with Paul's advice in 2 Timothy Chapter 2:4 says “a good soldier does not
get entangled in civilian affairs; his aim is to satisfy and please the one who
enlisted him.” and Peter' s command in 1 Peter 2:3-4
"Be submissive to every human institution and authority for the sake of the Lord, whether it
be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him top bring punishment and justice to those
who do wrong, and to encourage those who do good service.
Some of the particular positions, as stated in this presented paper, are in direct contrast to what George
Fox and the rest of the early Quakers taught and wrote.

a) The suspect paper calls for the removal and burning of all paintings and sculptures from all
public buildings and private residences, by government order. Fox never advocated such a practice in any
of his hundreds of other writings, in which he was not shy in mentioning anything he felt should be called
to the early Quakers' attention, i.e. fashion, swearing, drunkenness, lying, stealing, fornication,
adultery, cheating in business, going into debt, covetousness, greed, abusing servants, unjust
judicial punishments of minor crimes, serving too much alcohol in pubs, looseness of school
teachers, blindness of priests and professors, etc. But he never called for legislation from Parliament
for any of the above mentioned.

A painting of Margaret Fox's first husband, Judge Fell of Swarthmore Hall, the residence of George Fox in
his later years, still exists, (a photo of it is to the right). If this was his position, he surely would have
destroyed it; he obviously didn't.

There are even paintings of George Fox still in existence, several

shown on this site's Journal; two of which were painted by S.
Chinn (one to the left) and then engraved, and one painted by Sir
Peter Lely. There is also a portrait of William Penn, in his armor
on this site; obviously Penn did not destroy his portraits either.

Fox strongly wrote against possessing art as highly valued idols

or possessed in vanity or pride. (But art is not a problem, unless it is a displayed by an
individual with pride; so objects of art are a matter of individual conscience.) Since the
leading Quakers owned art, it is ridiculous to believe they would advocate art's removal
and burning from all public, and private buildings and homes by force of law. Someone is
obviously trying to discredit Fox with false, outrageous demands. This proposal alone
would have destroyed support for Quakers throughout the nations.

b) The paper also called for speaking in an unknown tongue to be outlawed.

Per Sewel,* Fox himself, at his own expense published a book in Dutch on the life of
William Caton and distributed it; and he also published a book, Battledore, with 25
different languages' illustrations of how each language provided the singular and plural
address to persons, distributing it to the king and all the ecclesiastic authorities of the day. Under
examination by a judge regarding his authorship of the book Battledore, the judge asked him if he
understood the twenty-five languages written in the book; Fox answered, "sufficient for myself." Fox
also spoke Welsh; and when in London, he daily worked in the world headquarters for Quakers,
reading and corresponding with foreigners throughout Europe and the world. He spent two years in
Holland and Germany, immersed in those countries. A bailiff's son came to Scarborough prison to
debate with Fox, speaking in Hebrew with him; Fox answered in Welsh.

* Sewel's The History of the Quaker, first published in 1695, is considered to be the definitive history of the early Quakers.

So to accuse him of seeking to ban the speaking of foreign languages in England, as the author of
the statement: "Let no man speak in an unknown tongue," is naive. A similar statement by Fox, taken
from the King James Bible in 1 Corinthians 14:27, was made in his Letter #320, where Fox quoted
Paul's referring to speaking in an unknown heavenly tongue, not earthly languages. (Paul telling
the members of the Church to not speak in an unknown heavenly tongue, unless someone could
interpret for the rest of the members to understand what he was saying; making the point that it would
not be of benefit for anyone to speak what could not be understood, in an unknown tongue.) It
appears someone extracted a phrase from Fox's letter, where he was quoting Paul, regarding
heavenly tongues in a worship service, not earthly tongues in England. Fox criticized the use of Latin in
the churches, courts, and government, leaving many unable to understand the proceedings. This is
a ridiculous demand, and is attributed to Fox in an attempt to discredit him, who wrote in many, spoke
in several, and understood many languages.

c) The paper called for the banning of music, fiddlings, and ballad-singing. Fox was against
Quaker participation in music that was not to the glory and praise of God; but he even encouraged
singing in the Spirit during worship, and he sang himself. There was even a group of people
that separated from the Quakers because he encouraged singing from the Spirit in meetings. In his
other writings, I find no record of him ever advocating the elimination of music from the secular world;
this would have been most controversial, and generated a great outcry and papers from Quakers
critics denouncing their extremism. Regarding pubs, he was very vocal in speech and writing against
owners of pubs who served the patrons too much to drink, severely warning them of God's judgments
for leading people to drunkenness by serving them too many drinks, but he never complained or
warned them about their music. This is a ridiculous twist of one his statements where he was
mentioning the evils of too much drink, that led to calling the fiddler, that led to calling the prostitutes.
But he did not advocate banning the fiddlers by law; a ridiculous charge; he only warned against too
much drink, not the fiddlers.

d) Fox and many other Quakers wrote to the rulers of England and Parliament constantly - but with
the themes of salvation, with pleas and warnings to stop persecuting the Quakers for following
their conscience regarding tithes, oaths, etc. They would never have diluted their pleas with some of
the ridiculous demands for legislation in this paper. If Parliament had ever passed the provisions within
this scandalous paper, it would have incensed the entire population against the Parliament and the
Quakers. The paper basically called for legislating a completely new morality on the English nation -
which if they had ever actually advocated, would have damaged the Quaker cause immeasurably.
Rather than legislation of morality, Fox and the early Quakers pointed people to Christ the light as
their teacher; which light would show a man his sins, and then take them away from his heart, one at a
time, while abiding in Christ, the light. This extract from one of his letters below reflects his attitude
towards government: stay out of any concerns about government, other than relief of their
innocent sufferings:

From George Fox's Letter 359

And keep out of the restless, discontented, disquieted spirit of the world about the government:
for you know it as been always our way to seek the good of all,
and to live peaceably under the government,
and to seek their eternal good, peace,
and happiness in the Lord Jesus Christ,
and to lay our innocent sufferings before them.

Remember this: there were many, many bitter enemies of Fox in his day, who hated him intensely,
enough for many attempts on his life. If Fox had published the subject paper as it is presented in his day,
the outcry across the nation would have generated a boat load of papers denouncing this ridiculous set
of demands; and the paper trail would still be available today in mass - but, there is nothing else to be
found. Forgeries, attempting to discredit the hated Quakers, were common in Fox's time. I suspect
someone took many of his sayings and writings; and added a few ridiculous demands, to discredit Fox.
If written in the 17th Century, it was written by their bitter enemies, the Ranters; or by an ex-Quaker,
John Perrot, who wrote two anti-Quaker tracts: The Spirit of the Hat and in Tyranny and
Hypocrisy Detected; and was caught in a forgery attributed to Edward Burroughs. As it is presented
today, it was certainly never published with distribution, (unless it had been clearly identified as a forgery
at the time), because:

1. If Fox had truly written this paper, as it is presented today, with it being published, Fox would have
been laughed out of England.

2. There is no recorded outcry from the many, many vocal critics, never hesitant to massively print even
lies about Quakers. If it had been published in Fox's time, it would have been immediately discredited,
but there would be a record of initial outcry and a clear record of its repudiation. If it was published, it
was immediately denounced as a forgery, of which many occurred. Most forgeries would be destroyed, but
a few would naturally survived; and should an undestroyed copy be discovered in later years, it could
be thought to be genuine.

3. This paper was addressed to Parliament. Had it been published and sent to Parliament as it is alleged,
it would have generated an inquiry of Parliament, with a subsequent paper from Parliament of the
inquiry's proceedings being distributed throughout England to discredit the Quakers. This is exactly
how Parliament seized on Naylor's lapse of judgment and used a rather silly incident, in an attempt
to destroy the Quakers. In December 1656, Naylor was tried by this same Parliament for the
greatly exaggerated charge of blasphemy; he was sentenced to being publicly whipped, while drug behind
a cart in both London and Bristol, to have his tongue bored through with a hot iron, and to have a B
branded in his forehead, followed by life imprisonment. Parliament, whose arm had already slain
so many of the faithful and the just, hated the Quakers, and would have seized upon this
opportunity to discredit the Quakers and halt their growth, which threatened the Puritans,
Baptists, Episcopalians, and Presbyterians that sat in Parliament. At the time of this publication which
Fox allegedly presented to Parliament, the early Quakers were hated by Parliament; thousands were in
jail, and the Quakers were issuing dire warnings to Parliament. The facts of the time deny the possibility
of Fox addressing Parliament with these ridiculous demands.

4. To explain the paper's obscurity, today's Quaker Universalists accuse Fox and the early Quakers of
a successful conspiracy to have it hidden, supposedly fearing embarrassment and criticism. But
the Universalists also allege it was delivered to Parliament, so it could not have been hidden; the only
logical explanation for its obscurity is, that it was never published. Since logs exist of
Parliaments proceedings, including the receipt of letters presented to them, I challenge
the Quaker Universalists to produce the evidence that this paper was ever presented
to Parliament.

The document, which Fox is accused of writing, despite most of its provisions being publicly advocated
by Fox, the several that are not, along with absence of and record of criticism, indicate it a clear
forgery. Forgeries were common in that time.

Summary : Many people find it hard to believe that anyone other than the apostles of the early
church could possess the same spirit as the apostles, speaking the Word of God, and demonstrating
the power of God - as did George Fox's record show, (see Miracles). Since they are not in the
Kingdom themselves, standing in the presence of God, fellowshipping with Christ and the Father,
and speaking as commanded by God, they find it hard to believe George Fox could be in that state, (see
Fox in the Lord). Since they are not in paradise, (in the Kingdom of God's spiritual dimension), they find
it had to believe Fox was. (see his record, and Margaret's confirmation).

Finding themselves unable to accept someone else might have achieved what they cannot accept as
even possible, such people begin searching for some reason for the claims to be false, searching for faults
in the person making the claims, seizing on anything that might excuse their lower state as justified. For
if they admitted someone else had a spiritual attainment greater than themselves, then they would be
forced to remedy their deficiency; therefore, they excuse their own shortcomings by finally
concluding anyone claiming to be pure and in the Kingdom must be deluded.

From another great early Quaker, Stephen Crisp's writes in one of his Letters to the Church :

So they grow up to speak evil of dignities, and are unruly, and dare to speak against heaven, and those
that dwell and inhabit in it, whom God makes to shine as stars in the firmament of his power. But alas!
for them. My soul pities them, when I see how they diminish themselves with their own deceits; but the
day of the Lord is among his people, which has and does make them and their spirit manifest, and
their fruits have also made them manifest.

The critics of Fox have made the basic mistake of assuming they are just as enlightened as Fox; so
their opinion is just as sound as Fox's teachings, because they have Christ too. But Isaac Penington, a
great worthy of the Lord, buries such logic in an extract from one of his letters.

And Friends, you that are weak, bless God for the strong; you that have need of a pillar to lean upon,
bless God, that has provided pillars in his house; and, in fear and the guidance of his Spirit, make use
of these pillars; who are faithful, and have ability from God, in his power and glorious presence with
them, to help to sustain his building, even as they had ability from the Lord to gather unto him. He
that despises him that is sent, despises Him that sent him; and he that undervalues any gift, office, or
work, that God has bestowed upon any person, despises the wisdom and disposal of the Giver. Are
all fathers? Have all overcome the enemy? Are all grown up in the life? Are all stars in the firmament
of God's power? Has God made all equal? Are there not different states, different degrees, different
growths, different places, etc.?

Then, if God has made a difference, and given degrees of life, and gifts different, according to his
pleasure; what wisdom and spirit is that, which does not acknowledge this, but would make all equal?
Oh my Friends! Fear before the Lord; honor the Lord in his appearances, and in the differences which
he has made among the children of men, and among his people. He gave prophets of old, and the rest of
the people were not equal with them. He gave evangelists, apostles, pastors, teachers, etc., and the
other members of the churches were not equal with them. He has given fathers and elders now, and
the babes and young men are not equal with them. Thus it is, in truth, from the Lord; and what is of God
in you, will so acknowledge it.

Therefore watch, everyone, to feel and know his own place and service in the body, and to be sensible of
the gifts, places, and services of others; that the Lord may be honored in all, and everyone owned
and honored in the Lord, and not otherwise.

One would think, as the great men of God revealed the mysteries of the scriptures and the Kingdom, that
the younger would be humble and respectful, deferring to their wisdom and greater measure of Christ.
But pride is blind; so we have 300 years of prideful, immature Quakers, in doubt of the existence of
a glorious paradise or Kingdom, disparaging George Fox, George Whitehead, Francis Howgill,
Margaret Fox, etc., these true saints of God, as deluded zealots - just like many modern
Protestants incorrectly look upon the Apostle Paul as a very uptight, stuffy person.

This is sad. I don't understand a reluctance to accept someone else's position in Christ to be above what
that person can claim. I can easily admit, 'My state is lower than George Fox's.' Yet I do not envy him.
I only admire him, and am thankful for his record, giving me hope, that through Christ, I too can
someday enjoy the fellowship of Christ and the Father, in the Kingdom of Heaven, walking and speaking in
a way that honors and brings glory to my Master, and to my Father in Heaven; but my seeking is like
the Lord said to me once: "imagine a place where everyone runs the race to their utmost ability, but
strives to come in last." Fox was the most humble of all; for the more of Christ's measure possessed,
the more humility is possessed. I will add, that my faith is certain for what I hope, as evidenced by
the changes Christ is making in me on the journey.

To those, who hate Fox because of his testimony to Jesus as the only Way, I will not argue that. Instead,
I suggest they read of the twenty five other Quakers on this site's identical testimony; and then read
the hundreds of prophecies fulfilled by Christ's life, and those that testify to Jesus' divinity. Beyond that,
I yield to Jesus to show anyone with a sincere desire to know, following the below words of Jesus himself:

If anyone chooses to do God's will,

he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on
my own.
John 7:17
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To Religious Teachers and Preachers of the World

Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.

Not Entering or Preaching the Kingdom of God Within

Beware! The only people to whom Christ spoke harsh words, were to
the money changers in the temple and to the religious teachers of the From the Voice of the Lord
day, the Pharisees. to All Preachers and Teachers
His severe criticisms included: (click to see them all)
"My Kingdom is not your Kingdom.

But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders Your children are disobedient.
(hypocrites)! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in
Those of the first birth
men's faces; for you neither enter yourselves, nor do
cannot follow in my footsteps.
you allow those who are about to go in to do so. Mat 23:13.
Woe to you, religious lawyers, for you have taken away the key You deceive the hearts of the simple.
of knowledge; you entered not in yourselves, and them that
were entering in you hindered." Luke 11:52
You must first be cleansed.

If you are not leading others into the Kingdom of God There were many like you in my time
within (while alive on earth, not having to die first) , you on the earth.
also are blocking the way just like the Pharisees whom Jesus
This is a call for you to
severely criticized. If your teachings are not focused as a first
quit preaching and repent. Then to
priority on seeking the Kingdom of Heaven and His
seek the Lord's voice for guidance."
righteousness, which is within you and does not come with visible
signs, you are just like the Pharisees whom Christ severely criticized.
Thus said the Lord God.
If you are preaching that you have die to go to heaven, you are
blocking the way into the Kingdom; and you are a blind
guide leading your followers into the ditch and into
captivity.

If you tell someone who is seeking God, that all they have to do is believe in Jesus and/or be water
baptized to be righteous, you are worse than the Pharisees who killed Jesus; they at least tried to
teach others to obey the law. You are not only blocking the door to the Kingdom, you are standing at
the beginning of the path to righteousness, saying: because you believe, don't fear God, don't seek
God, don't strive to enter by the narrow gate, and don't obey.

Yet the pursuit of obedience leads to righteousness; and when seeking God is the whole purpose
of life!

He [God] has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him,
though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being; Acts 17:26-28
 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in you all. Eph 4:6

Seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with
all your soul. Deu 4:29

Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom
you obey,
whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? Rom 6:16

He that says to the wicked, 'You are righteous;' him shall the people curse, nations
shall abhor him; Pro 24:24

Unless you stop excusing the wicked, telling sinners they are righteous already, just
by believing in Jesus, this shall be your cursed lot in the next life. Seeking God is the
whole purpose of life, and the seeking is not over until a salvation is experienced which includes
purity, holiness, perfection, judgment, being freed from even the desire to sin, destruction of the
residual man of sin within one by the brightness of his coming, union with Christ and the Father,
the entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven, seeing the Glory of God, you appearing in glory, fellowship
with past saints made perfect, and fellowship with the Father and Christ - an unmistakable salvation,
clearly seen, clearly felt, clearly understood.

Further, you teach those still in sin to be proud, exalting themselves; without humility they will never
hear the voice of the Lord, the word of God within, which being obedient to, leads to righteousness
and salvation to all those who give heed and obey Him. Heb 5:9. Any salvation not based on
seeking God, seeking righteousness, and purity through death of the sinful nature on the inward cross
or self-denial, the cross of Christ - is make-believe salvation. A true shepherd of Christ does not
tolerate sin in his flock: per Paul, "those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also
may fear," 1 Timothy 5:20; but not until you have been purified by going to Christ to listen, hear, and obey
- repeatedly.

I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:

They commit adultery [by friendship with the world] and walk in lies;
They also strengthen the hands of evildoers, [telling them they are saved]
So that no one turns back from his wickedness. [they remain in sin]
All of them are like Sodom to Me,
And her inhabitants like Gomorrah. Jer 23:14

Jesus's other criticisms of Religious 'Leaders' were:

● Being called Father, Teacher, Master - or any flattering title (Doctor, Reverend) in the marketplace
(outside in the world)
● Taking a place of honor in the assembly. Like up on the stage or behind an elevated pulpit.
● Lording it over your congregation (actually Peter's criticism)
● Insisting even widows give money
● Making long prayers out loud pretending to be godly
● Placing grievous burdens on your congregation but not lifting a finger to help them
● Doing everything for show (pretence again), like wearing long robes with tassels on them
● Outwardly appearing righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity

Sounds very contemporary doesn't it? Woe to you, for several apply to you too!

Proper Worship

God is a Spirit, and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. John4:24

Do you know how to worship in spirit and truth? Do you know how to teach others to worship in spirit
and truth?
People must be acquainted with Him as a Spirit, consider and worship Him as such.
To be pleasing to God, all words of praise, prayer, and song, must come from the Holy
Spirit within a man.
Since you don't know how to teach people how to do be able to do this, you are a blind guide!

Those who still sin, are still wicked.

The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord, but the prayer of the upright His delight. Pro 15:8
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
Pro 15:26

You don't even know what the rest is, much less how to lead others to the rest.

Preaching for Money or Taking a Salary

If you are taking a salary from you congregation, you are violating Peter's command: Feed the flock
of God which is among you, taking the oversight, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy
lucre (money). 1 Peter 5:2

The use of 'filthy lucre' to describe money, shows Peter's contempt of receiving money for
preaching; especially when contrasted to the true motivation for preaching - the love of God, the love of
all your fellow men, the love of your fellow believers in particular, and most important of all
reasons, obedience to the specific, personal commands of the Master and Lord. No one can serve
two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise
the other. You cannot serve both God and Money. Matt 6:24

Here is what Christ tells us about hired hand shepherds, (those who work for filthy lucre):

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.The hired hand is not the
shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away.
Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares
nothing for the sheep. John 10:11-13

He is making the point that since the hired hand does not work for the love of God and love of the flock,
at the first sign of adversity, he will flee; he doesn't care about the flock, or else he wouldn't be
extracting money from them.

Jesus commanded his disciples: freely you have received, freely give. Matt 10:8
The Amplified Bible makes it even clearer: Freely (without pay) you have received, freely
(without charge) give.

Jesus said: And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the
laborer is worthy of his hire. Luke 10:7-8. So here Jesus says, eat and drink such things as they
give, because a worker worthy is hire. This is the wages that Christ allows, gifts, which
could include a gift of money of course.

But if you ask, and someone complies, it is not a gift; a gift is unsolicited. Neither is taking up a collection
or taking a salary receiving a gift. To be a gift, it has to be totally unsolicited.

Paul said: Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ
we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God. 2 Cor 2:17. Paul didn't even take gifts for
himself; he worked as a tentmaker. Later in his ministry, he did take at least two greatly appreciated,
gifted contributions. Many of today's ministers chose the ministry as a way to earn an income -
like becoming a doctor or a lawyer; but Christ is supposed to choose his own shepherds, educate
them himself, and then appoint them to serve without tithing, collections, pledges, or salaries.

Preaching for a salary is the error of Balaam, which is spiritual adultery, loving wages and profit - both
Peter and Jude had some very grave things to say about those who solicit donations or preach for a
salary. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam
for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and
are accursed children - for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

Tithing died with the Levitical priesthood; the only places it is referenced in the New Testament is
the claim of the self-righteous Pharisee, and the explanation of its death in Hebrews. See Fox also.

Commonly quoted scriptures, ignoring the above commands, used to justify preaching for filthy lucre
are refuted at the end of this section; click to see them.

Preaching Before Being Trained, Perfected, Authorized, and Sent by Christ

The teacher is Christ. You are a blind pupil. If the pupil starts teaching before the teacher has
authorized him, then the blind pupil thinks he can see and is superior to the teacher. (Luke 6:39-40). You
must wait for the teacher to pronounce you ready to teach; or with still more training, ready to preach,
and ready to substitute for him. You must wait until you are told what to do and when to do it. If you
are teaching or preaching now, from where does your authority come? You say a college or university,
or your religious organization? From where does their authority come? Jesus said you must be set to
rights, (as in authorized to teach or preach by Jesus himself), restored, (t0 the divine image
of God as was Adam before the fall) readjusted, and perfected. (Luke 6:39-40). Otherwise, you
are claiming superiority to Him by teaching without His explicit authority and His personal training,
from Him to you; without it, by teaching or preaching, Jesus says you are estimating yourself, a pupil, to
be superior to Him, THE teacher. And this authorization of being set to rights from Christ does not come
by feeling, doors opening, desires on your part, or your opinion - it has to come after perfection and
from spoken words from Christ directly to you, and heard by you, that specifically tell you what to
do and when to do it. The Lord of the harvest specifically sends forth his individual laborers.
Such authorization comes from him directly and specifically; you hear him say: you are now a teacher,
or: preach repentance with remission of sins. (And, yes, after being taught for years, we have heard
those exact words followed by his insistent command: you have been given understanding, which you
will make clear to everyone.)
Until your mind is renewed by repentance to purity with God's changing grace, your preachings
and teachings come from the carnal mind, and the carnal mind is enmity against God. Rom 8:7.
Until your mind has been changed, your words are without life, and speak from the nature of death. You
can be a great public speaker receiving the praise of men, but so did the false prophets of old. Luke 6:26

Even Jesus did not judge, speak, or act without the Spirit's specific prompting:
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, John 5:30
whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50
the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord)
but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing, John 5:19

You who.. are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not
steal, do you steal? Rom 2:19-21

Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?
Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen. John 3:11
(Not what you have read about, not what you have heard from others.)

To witness, preach, or teach without the Holy Spirit's specific instruction, is to estimate yourself
above Jesus.
Until you are purified with the Spirit speaking through you, your witnessing, teaching, and preaching
will not reach the holy part of each person, and your growth will be retarded or stopped.

(Unauthorized teaching is why you can't hear the Word of God within your heart, ever reach purity, or
enter the Kingdom;
unauthorized teachers are in spiritual captivity because they are leading others into spiritual captivity
by teaching errors.)

According to the Paul in Ephesians, the purpose of teachers, preachers, and pastors, having first
been gifted* their office by the Holy Spirit, is for the perfecting of the saints and to
bring people to the fullness and completeness of Christ:

And His gifts* were some to be apostles (special messengers), some prophets (inspired preachers and
expounders), some evangelists (preachers of the Gospel, traveling missionaries), some pastors
(shepherds of His flock) and teachers.

*a gift from the Holy Spirit is not a talent to make speeches sourced from a book; many pagans
have such talents. A gift from the Holy Spirit is to be explicitly appointed by the Holy
Spirit, after having been taught and cleansed sufficiently to be able to consistently speak from
the Holy Spirit's words and promptings. Unless you have heard the Lord specifically
authorize and gift to you the office of preacher, pastor, or teacher, you are without his
authority, permission, or approval; and you will only hear his condemnation to come.

His intention was the perfecting and the full equipping of the saints (His consecrated people),
the work of ministering toward building up Christ's body (the church),

until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the knowledge of the Son of God,
that at really mature manhood (the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard
height of Christ's own perfection), the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ
and the completeness found in Him. Ephesians 4:11-13

How can you perform the function of perfecting the saints and bringing people to the fullness
and completeness of Christ, unless you have first been perfected to his fullness and completeness
yourself? Of course, you can't. And as long as you are preaching or teaching without having
been specifically authorized by the Master, you are teaching errors. You are leading others into
spiritual captivity, and therefore you are in captivity too, unable to hear the voice of the Lord.

Jesus spoke of the spiritual condition of any unpurified religious leader, not having been cleansed by
him through repentance.
You make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within are full of extortion and excess.
You are blind, first cleanse the inside of the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
You are like whitewashed tombs, outwardly beautiful, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of
all uncleanness.
So you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:25-28

Beware of False Prophets, You Will Know Them By Their Fruits

(Prophesy is to preach; to instruct in religious doctrines; to interpret or explain Scripture or religious subjects; to exhort. 1 Cor 14:1-3)
Christ said, "you will know them by their fruits;"
which Paul explained as love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness, and self-control.
Jesus said, When you bear (produce) much fruit, My Father is honored and glorified,
and you show and prove yourselves to be true followers of Mine. John 15:8
If you have not produced fruit, you are not even a true follower of Christ, much less a minister of Christ.
If you are not a follower of Christ, you are a blind guide leading people into the ditch and into captivity.

Those who belong to Christ have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24. If
you have not crucified your sinful nature with its passions and desires, evidenced by destruction of
sexual immorality, impurity, debauchery, idolatry, hatred, lying, discord, jealousy, fits of rage,
selfish ambition, dissensions, envy, drunkenness, etc., you don't even belong to Christ, despite what
you claim; so how can you be a minister of Christ? Gal 5:19-24

Without having crucified the sinful nature to produce the fruit of the spirit, you are a false prophet of
whom Jesus warned.
(Prophesy is to preach; to instruct in religious doctrines; to interpret or explain Scripture or religious subjects; to exhort. 1 Cor 14:1-3)

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and
many enter through it.
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (eager to take your money)
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will
of my Father who is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out
demons and perform many miracles?'
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Matthew 7:13-23
I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34

Now if many, who call him Lord and think they are Christians, are rejected by him because they still
sin; what will he do to those, who told them they were righteous, still in their sins, and convinced them
they were Christians, going to heaven - despite their continuing to sin? The punishment of the
deceiver will exceed the punishment of the deceived, for blackest darkness is reserved
for those promising freedom to those just beginning to escape from sin. 2 Pet 2:15-18,Jude 1:11-13

As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light and
from the power of Satan to God, so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me. Acts
26:17-18

Do you know how to turn people from darkness to light? Do you know what the light is?
Do you know how to release people from their sins? How to release them from the power of Satan to God?
Do you know how one can be consecrated and purified by faith in Jesus?

Of course you don't know. You are not obedient to God's commands yourself. You don't understand
the Kingdom of God, you deny purity is possible on earth, you don't know what the rest is or how to
get there, you don't understand salvation, you don't know Jesus - for if you knew him, you would keep
his commands. You are not preaching the good news that Jesus Christ came to save us from our
sins; instead you are promising your followers freedom to continue in their sins. You are preaching lies
that Jesus is our excuse for remaining a slave to sin until death, instead of the truth that he came to free
the prisoners and destroy the works of the devil in us, to become slaves of God with a reward of holiness
and be servants of righteousness. You are a blind guide, in the ditch yourself, and coaxing others to join
you there.

From A Christian Progress, by George Whitehead:

It is the life of Christ Jesus which must preach in his ministers and servants; their conversation must
preach righteousness, innocence, and be incapable of blame; it is such ministers who live in this life, who are
ready to make full proof of their ministry, by witnessing against all that is contrary to it. What authority
do any have to preach against covetousness, immorality, and injustice, who are guilty of the same
themselves? Surely they have no divine authority, life or power, when they are conscious of being guilty
of the same. Truth and righteousness must come over all, and work through all, and prevail; and the Lamb
must have the victory; in whose meekness and innocence you all must live and dwell.

What that kingly prophet David earnestly prayed to God for, in Psalm fifty-one, truly sets forth the state
and condition of true gospel ministers, whose ministry is attended with His power and presence,
 and thereby made effective for the conversion of sinners unto him. "Wash me thoroughly from
mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew right
spirit within me. Cast me not away from your presence; and take not your holy Spirit from me.
Restore unto me the joy of your salvation; and uphold me with your free Spirit. Then will I
teach transgressors your ways; and sinners shall be converted to you."

Being "Called" Instead of Ordered or Commanded

Nowhere in the Bible is a "call" anything but a summons or being named. Being touched by God, or having
a spiritual experience, is not his "call" to be a preacher; it is a summons to seek him: many are called,
few are chosen. Far, far too many people interpret a touch by God to be a call to preach. If he wants you
to be a preacher, he will first educate you himself and then give you direct orders as to what to do and
when to do it. He doesn't leave you to guess about a feeling, a call, an opinion, an inspiration, a burden,
a desire, or a "door opening" to walk through. I know one minister whose "call" was being accepted
into seminary and not into a secular college.

Interpreting a spiritual experience as a "call," even after a Bible College education, and then teaching
or preaching, stops your spiritual growth dead- because you are not teaching or preaching from control
of the Spirit of God, you are teaching and preaching from the carnal mind, which is enmity against God:
for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Rom 8:7. So, your preaching and teaching is
not true, and for this you suffer condemnation, which prevents you from progressing spiritually. You
have not been taught by Christ; you have not been perfected; you have not be authorized; you are
teaching lies, traditional lies, but still lies.

Conclusion

If you are preaching or teaching religion now, you must give it up; and find another means of income.
Every word you preach or teach that is not spoken with the Spirit's control puts condemnation on you,
and those you save become twice as fit for Hell as you are by believing your false promises of
salvation. Unless you are purified by the teacher, your leading and teaching is from blindness, and
blind guides lead their followers into the ditch of captivity. Those who lead into captivity will go
into captivity. Just because everybody is doing it, doesn't excuse you; the whole earth follows the beast
with horns like a lamb. Rev. 13:12. So stop. The scriptures above cannot be refuted, no matter how you look
at them. If you love the Lord and want to please him, you will stop teaching and preaching immediately,
and seek his teaching, perfecting grace, and specific leading from his voice. Until you stop, you will
receive no help from Him. Some day you will have to face all the people you have misled and see their
pain; you will profoundly regret every word you have spoken in his name. Their blood will be on your
head; your condemnation will be proportional to every person you have misled with false teachings.

You may have an advantage: if you know the scriptures, and if you entered the profession from your love
of the Lord, giving up your ministry to listen for guidance from the voice of the Lord in hopes of
being perfected by Christ, may result in your fast spiritual progress. If the Lord sees you give up
your ministry, he may reward you even more than most. Many ministers from deficit sects quickly
became free ministers of the Truth for the early Quakers under direct control of the Master, Christ; (click
to read one outstanding example). If you are really working under his control - you won't ever
have to ask for money again. Peter forbids you to ask for money as Christ's minister, (1 Peter 5:2) but if you
are truly following Christ, he will see that all your material needs are more than met without violating
his command and Peter's command by asking for money or taking a salary; with your words and deeds
will being directed by Him to his glory, gathering under his direction instead of your shameful
scattering without his direction.

Now George Fox, from his Journal : (Text in Light Blue can be clicked on
to Bible verse backup.)

You are such as the prophet Jeremiah cried against, Jer 5:31, when he said, "The prophets prophesy
falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means;" which he called a horrible filthy thing. You are such
as used their tongues, and said, Thus said the Lord, when the Lord never spoke to them. Such as
followed their own spirits; and saw nothing; but spoke a divination of their own brain; and by their lies
and their lightness caused the people to err. Jer14:14. You are such as they were that sought their gain
from their quarter; that were as greedy dumb dogs, that could never have enough, whom the Lord sent
his prophet Isaiah to cry against: Isa.56:11. You are such as they were who taught for handfuls of barley
and pieces of bread, who sewed pillows under people's arm-holes, that they might lie soft in their sins.
Ezek 13:18-21. You are such as they that taught for the fleece and the wool, and made a prey of the
people. Ezek 34:2-15. But the Lord is gathering his sheep from your mouths, and from your
barren mountains; and is bringing them to Christ, the one shepherd, whom he has set over his flocks; as
by his prophet Ezekiel he then declared he would do. You are such as those that divined for money,
and preached for hire; and if a man did not put into their mouths they prepared war against him, as
the prophet Micah complained, Mic 3:5 ...they were like the chief priests, scribes, and Pharisees,
whom Christ cried woe against. Mat 23. And that they were such false apostles the true apostles-
cried against, such as taught for filthy lucre; such antichrists and deceivers as they cried against,
that minded earthly things, and served not the Lord Jesus Christ, but their own bellies; for they that
served Christ gave freely and preached freely, as he commanded them. But they that will not preach
without hire, tithes, or outward means, serve their own bellies, and not Christ; and through the good
words of the scriptures, and feigned words of their own, they made merchandise of the people then, as
(I said) you do now. ... they were like the Pharisees, loving to be called of men masters, to go in long
robes, to stand praying in the synagogues, to have the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the like; and when
in the sight of the people.

from Principles
Concerning the MINISTRY

The true ministry of Christ we own and witness, and the ministers and messengers of Christ we own
and witness, but those who have gotten the letter and form to trade with, which was spoken forth freely,
and denies the life and power, those we deny, their ministry, and all those who go to get human
learning, and are certain years as it were serving a apprenticeship, pretending to study divinity, and
when their time is expired, they go among ignorant blind people, and gets a certain place, and certain
wages, and so sells that which they studied and got into the brain, and those which receive it, gets it into
the brain, and so they live upon dust which is the serpents meat, feeding upon the tree of knowledge
both priest and people, Mic. 3:10, death feeding death, and with the notion begets into the notion,
and feeding the carnal mind with the carnal letter; and this is the cause why drunkards, swearers,
liars, proud, covetous, envious, wrathful and contentious ones, and all unrighteous persons, has gotten
the letter to talk of, or discourse of, though in the ale-house, or tippling-house; but this ministry works
no reformation, only has the form, and leads into the form, and denies the life and power, which is
neither to be bought nor sold for money; so from such we turn away, who come by the will of man,
are approved by the will of man, and are upheld by the will of man, and not by the will of God: And their
call and ministry we deny, which is mediate, and formal imitation, and the invention of man, and so
mere delusion, and this is the cause why the Land so overflows with iniquity, and all manner of
ungodliness, and no better reformation wrought among them, their ministry is so dark, and dead, and
cold, and yet the land full of teachers, and yet the people lost for want of teaching, Jer 23:29-32, and so
they spend their money for that which is not bread, and their labor for that which profits not, Isa.
55:2. But who can witness an immediate call by God, from their outward callings and countries,
lands, livings and possessions, into several countries, to preach the free Gospel as they had received it,
by the immediate inspiration of the Spirit, and speaks it forth as they are moved by the Holy Ghost, and
as the Spirit gives them utterance freely, as they have received it freely, by which ministry many
are convinced, and as they abide in it are converted, as many in the nation can witness to the honor
and glory of God, who are now new creatures; and this call we own and witness, and this ministry we
own and witness, which is immediate, and stands in the will of God, and such covets no mans silver
nor gold, neither could be hired to a certain place, but travels from place to place, and has no
certain dwelling place; and such are the true ministers of Jesus Christ, who make the Gospel free
and without charge; and this we own and witness, and for the testimony of this true ministry, some of us
are imprisoned, some stoned, some stocked, whipped and shamefully entreated, as vagabonds,
and deluders, and wanderers, and raisers of sedition, and pestilent fellows, and esteemed not worthy to
live in the nation, both by priest, and people, and rulers, who are out of the commands of God, and
are vagabonds and fugitives from God, who go in the way of Cain, to envy and murder the innocent;
and because we declare against all who come not in by the door, but seeks to climb up another way, by
their study, inventions, and serpentine wisdom and knowledge, and so are thieves and robbers; and
those are they which are now so set up and extolled with great augmentations and benefices, by the arm
and will of flesh, now heads, and such ministers and their ministry we deny, for the hand of the Lord
is against such, John 10:1. But this which we own is no new call, nor new ministry, but the same which
was with the prophets and apostles. And all who God sent witnessed, and here is the difference of
the ministers of the world and the ministers of Christ: one comes by the will of man, the other by the will
of God; and one is upheld by the will of man, the other by the will of God, contrary to the will of man;
and the one of the letter, [Bible] the other of the Spirit; the one has the form and shadow, and the other
the life and substance; and the effects and fruits of their ministry makes them manifest; but from such
turn away, 2 Tim 3:5, who have the form, but not the life and power, for they are mere deceivers,
and witches; who bewitch people from the Truth, holding forth the shadow instead of the substance;
and what is the shadow to the substance? Or what is the chaff to the wheat? He that has an ear to hear,
let him hear and understand.

From the Journal

Christ was always hated; and so the righteous are hated for his sake. Mind who they were that did
always hate them. He that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the spirit; so it is
now. Mind who were the principal opposers of Christ, even the great learned men, the heads of the
people, rulers, and teachers, that professed the law and the prophets, and looked for Christ. They looked
for an outwardly glorious Christ, to hold up their outward glory; but Christ spoke against the works of
the world, and against the priests, scribes, and Pharisees, and their hypocritical profession. He that is
a stranger to Christ is a hireling; but the servants of Jesus Christ are free men. The false teachers always
laid burdens upon the people; and the true servant of the Lord declared against them. Jeremiah
spoke against hirelings, and said, it was a horrible thing; and said, "What will you do in the end?" For
the people and priests were given to covetousness. Paul spoke against such as made gain from the
people, and exhorted the saints to turn away from such as were covetous and proud, such as loved
pleasures more than God, such as had a form of godliness, but denied the power of that. "For of this
sort," said he, "are they, that creep into houses, and lead captive silly women, who are ever learning
but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth; men of corrupt mind, reprobate concerning the
faith, and as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these resist the truth; but they shall proceed
no further, for their folly shall be made manifest unto all men." Moses rejected honors and pleasures,
which he might have enjoyed. The apostle in his time saw this corruption entering, which now is spread
over the world, of having a form of godliness but denying the power. Ask any of your teachers, whether
you may ever overcome your corruptions or sins? None of them believe that; but "as long as man is here,
he must (they say), carry about with him the body of sin." Thus pride is kept up, and that honor
and mastership which Christ denied, and all unrighteousness. Yet multitudes of teachers! Heaps
of teachers! The golden cup full of abominations! Paul did not preach for wages, but
labored with his hands, that he might be an example to all that follow him. Oh people, see
who follow Paul! The prophet Jeremiah said, “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule
by their means;" but now the priests bear rule by the means (salaries) they get from the people: take
away their means, and they will bear rule over you no longer. They are such as the apostle said,
"intruded into those things which they never saw, being vainly puffed up with a fleshly mind;" and as
the scriptures declare of some of old, "they go in the way of Cain," who was a murderer, "and in the way
of Balaam," who coveted the wages of unrighteousness. The prophet Micah also cried against the judges
that judged for reward, and the priests that taught for hire, and the prophets that prophesied for money;
yet leaned on the Lord, saying, “is not the Lord among us?" Gifts blind the eyes of the wise. The gift of
God was never purchased with money. All the holy servants of God cried against deceit; and where the
Lord has manifested his love, they loathe it, and that nature which holds it up.

George Fox

From Margaret Fox's Letter

But to the men of the letter, [Bible] who are only ministers of the letter, the Light and inward Law is
a mystery, who neither know the life of the law, nor the gospel. They have gotten into the seat of the
scribes and Pharisees, who had the law and the Prophets outwardly read every Sabbath day, yet did
not know the life of Moses, who wrote of Christ, and said, a prophet would the Lord raise like unto me,
who spoke to God face to face. The prophets prophesied of Christ, of the coming of the just one, and of
his sufferings, how he should be led as a sheep to the slaughter, and how he should be as a lamb,
dumb before his shearers. Though they read this without them, yet when it came to be fulfilled, they were
so blind, they did not see it, and so crucified the Lord of life.

But now the beast has gotten into another color, and now his ministers have gotten the words of Christ,
and of his Apostles, and they take these words, and have gotten into the seat of the Pharisees, which
Christ found them in, when he came, and cried Woe against. Here they sit decked with Christ’s words,
and the Apostles' words, and the saints words. With these they continue deceiving poor people, and
making merchandise of their souls, speaking things they ought not for filthy lucre,
who serve not the Lord Jesus Christ, but their own bellies. They betray
and murder poor souls, and do all that in them lie and spend all their strength, against the truth
of God, which is now risen in this his day, in life and power, which makes them clearly manifest to
be antichrist’s false prophets, and deceivers, who are gone into the world, which John spoke of. Now
the Light is risen, and they are manifested, [exposed by the Light], glory and praises be unto the
Lord forever, who is gathering his flock, which were scattered, from their mouths. For thus said the Lord,
I will both search my Sheep, and seek them out, I will feed them in a good pasture, and they shall lie down
in a good fold, and I will set one Shepherd over them, and they shall be no more a prey to the
heathen, neither shall the beasts of the field devour them anymore. Woe to the Shepherds said the Lord,
that have fed themselves, and not the flock, that feed with the fat, and are clothed with the wool. The Lord
is coming to be avenged of them, the Light is risen, which makes them manifest, to be the false
prophets, and the antichrist’s. They were seemingly all true prophets, until the Light came, which
made them manifest, by their fruits, while they were clothed in the sheep’s clothing, the saints words,
and Christ’s words, painted sepulchers, beautiful without.

But now that the true prophet, Christ Jesus is risen, whom Moses said, the Lord would raise, now
they appear to be the false prophets indeed which Christ told us to beware of, who come in sheep’s
clothing, but inwardly are ravening Wolves; by their fruits we know them, who said lo here, and lo there;
but Christ said, believe them not. All their practice and labor is to oppose, and persecute the truth of God,
as it is in Jesus now made manifest in his saints. They deny and oppose the light, when all the ministers
of God, which ever taught for God, turned people from the darkness to the light, and from the power
of Satan unto God. They do what they can to turn [people] from the Light, and to keep people in
darkness. So here they stand to keep people from the first principle, that leads to God; for the Light is
the first principle of pure religion, and undefiled before God. Some of them deny the Light, and
some call it natural; and so they deny Christ Jesus, who is given a covenant of Light, which is the true
Light, which has enlightened every man that comes into the world. He was in the world, and the world
was made by him, and the world knew him not: and so these antichrist’s, and deceivers, which are
entered into the world, know him not, who has said, I am the door of the sheep, all that ever came before
me are thieves and robbers. I am the door, by me, if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in
and out, and find pasture. But these thieves and robbers, who are hirelings, who only come to steal, and
to kill, and to destroy, (as Christ said), they keep from the door; and deny that by which every one
enters, who are saved, the LIGHT, Christ Jesus, who is the cornerstone, and rock, upon which the
whole Church is built. This [Light] they deny to be sufficient, to teach salvation. They deny the
new covenant, the Law written in the heart, and call obedience to the Light, and Law of God, a covenant
of works.

They would have the Law and the Prophets, Christ, and the Apostles to talk of, and steal their words,
and never expect to come into the life and condition of the prophets, Christ and the Apostles. So they
deny revelation, and the Spirit's teaching, and would steal that which the Prophets, Christ, and the
Apostles wrote, and make it their own, [by speaking their words without possessing the Spirit by which
they were written, yet pretending they fully understand the words enough to teach others what they
mean]. So they go about to make poor people believe, who are ignorant of God, and all truth, that they
can serve God, with their stolen words, who is a God of truth, and a jealous God, a just, and a righteous
God, who renders unto every one according to their deeds. They [these minister without the Apostles'
spirit] shall know one day, when they have filled up the measure of their fathers, [the Pharisees and
scribes that crucified Christ], that upon them will come, all the righteous blood, which has been shed
from Abel. So they go on, and preach up sin, that none can be free from sin, so long as they are upon
earth, and the impossibility of perfection. They get the Apostles and Christ’s words, and quite deny
that which they spoke for, preached and prayed for, and labored for, which was to present
every man perfect in Christ Jesus.

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Letter 91.-A General Epistle for Friends, concerning the Priests.

All Friends,

in the spirit of the living God wait upon God,

to learn of and to be taught by him.
For now the beast opens his mouth in blasphemy,
speaking great swelling words.
And now is the cage of unclean birds, and the unclean spirits,
which are gone forth into the earth, seen.
And now are the locusts seen, and the caterpillars known.
And now are the seven thunders uttering their voices.
And now are the hailstones falling,
and the vials of the wrath of God pouring out upon the beast and the false prophet.
And now are the white-washed walls seen, and the painted tombs,
which garnish the tombs of the righteous,
and build the tombs of the prophets, full of dead men's bones.
Now are the inwardly ravening wolves seen,
which have gotten the sheep's clothing.
And now are the false prophets seen,
which through covetousness make merchandise of the people.
And now are the thistles, and briars, and thorns, where the figs do not grow, seen.
And now are they seen which make merchandise
of the words of the prophets, Christ, and the apostles,
and through pretence make long prayers;
who devour widows' houses.
And now are such known, who lead silly women captive,
who are always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,
some thirty, forty, some sixty years.
And now are such known and seen, and manifest with the light,
that Christ spoke of, that should beat his followers in the synagogues,
and hale them before magistrates for his name's sake;
yes, if they killed them, should think they did God good service.
And now are such teachers seen and known,
that sport themselves in the daytime, and walk after their own ungodly lusts.
And now such are seen that go in Cain's way, who would murder,
and do murder in their hearts, who are in envy,
who are the vagabonds, and the fugitives,
who have not a habitation in God, who is love.
And now are such seen and known, that go in Balaam's way,
who love the wages of unrighteousness, gifts and rewards.
And now are such seen and known, that bear rule by their means,
and the people love to have it so;
holding up the horrible and filthy thing committed in the land, as in Jeremy.
And now are such shepherds seen and known,
as seek financial or worldly gain from their position.
Now are such seen and known, as seek for the fleece and the wool,
and make a prey upon the people;
and such as are hirelings, which the Lord sent Ezekiel and Micah to cry against.
And now are such seen and known, which our Lord Jesus Christ cried woe against;
who stand praying in the synagogues, having the principal seats in the assemblies,
called of men masters, which devour widows' houses.
And now are such deceivers seen and known,
that by their lies and lightness have caused the people to err;
which speak a divination of their own brain, and use their tongues,
and say, the Lord sent them, when he never sent them.
And now are the mockers and scorners come, which the scriptures speak of,
which mock, stone, and persecute the children of the light,
as they pass up and down the streets;
and many have been almost murdered in the highways and steeple-houses by them.
And now is the scripture fulfilled, which said,
"That the beast and the dragon shall make war against the lamb and the saints;"
for such are manifest now, who are as natural brute beasts,
what they know they know naturally, having not the life that gave forth the scriptures;
but are found in the self-separation, (from the spirit of God),
having gotten the words, which were declared from the spirit of God,
murdering and destroying, (as much as is in their hearts),
those that are in the light and life of those holy men of God,
that gave forth the scriptures.
Now the shame of all their profession is seen, which is abomination unto the Lord,
who profess the words declared from the light of God,
but are strangers to the light and life.
And now the unsavory things are smelled, tasted of,
and seen to be among many of the professors of religion,
who are more like swine rending,
and like dogs biting and devouring one another, than like the children of the light.
Which manifests them to be contrary to the light;
which all that are contrary to, with the light are condemned.

George Fox

A Small Excerpt from Edward Burrough's Introduction to The Great

Mystery, the Great Whore:

Have not you fed yourselves with the fat, and clothed with the wool, and have not the people's souls
been starved, and leanness been upon them all! Your plants are dry, barren trees that bring forth no
good fruit; and your people are like a wilderness that is untilled, and unploughed, and undressed; and
your flocks are like wild asses upon the mountains that are untamed, as rude as the horse and mule,
that know no bridle And now it is seen what the end of your ministry is, and what fruit it has brought
forth. The Lord has taken notice, and beheld how you have loitered and lain idle, and the nations lie yet
like fallow ground that bears no fruit; and men's hearts are untouched with absence of God's word,
and there is no sound, true, and perfect sense among your people of the dealings of the Lord, nor of
the operation of his spirit, but they remain in great blindness and ignorance, void of the knowledge of
God. For you have not caused them to hear his word, [the voice of the Lord, from the Spirit] but you
have told your dreams, and your false visions, and you have spoken whatever you imagined of your
hearts, and not from the mouth of the Lord; neither have you stood in his counsel, nor hearkened to
his voice, and therefore people remain without profit. What they and you know, it is natural, and not by
the spirit of the Father; but as dry trees you are, not taught of the Father, and as rough goats, in the
nature of swine that are polluted in the filth of the world, and in the nature of dogs, and lions, devouring
one another, and biting one another, and killing one another; which things were not in the churches
of Christ. And we have a great controversy with you, and that from the Lord. We have tried you,
searched you, and discovered your foundation, and it is not sound, nor will stand in the trial. We
have fetched your line from the first original, and we have found out your beginning, and we find yours
of that race, which Christ prophesied of that should come, who should deceive many, having the
sheep's clothing, but inwardly ravening; and who John saw were come, and went out from the apostles
and true churches, went from the truth, and went into the world, and had the form of godliness without
the power. Here began the race in the apostasy of the churches. And when they apostatized from the
true faith, then came up your original false church, and the world went after them, and all that dwelt
upon the earth worshipped the beast, that has reigned through all this time of apostasy, which has
been since the days of the apostles.

And we find your original goes no further than to the false brethren, and false apostles, who went out
from the true apostles, and ran for gifts and rewards, and preached, for filthy lucre, and
through covetousness made merchandise of souls, seeking money and gain to themselves. I say, we find
your original false church begins there, and your line goes no further, and your first rise never came as far
as the true apostles. You were not, in your beginning, of their life nor birth, nor can be reckoned from
their original, neither do you succeed them; but you truly succeed the false apostles, and false
brethren, which Christ prophesied should come after his days, and John saw were come and coming in
his days. And we find you of this stock and generation, and now you are discovered to be contrary to the
true apostles, and agreeing with the false apostles, in call, in practice, in maintenance, and in all things;
and the line of true judgment is laid upon you all, and you are measured, and found too short, and
weighed, and found too light. And we will deal truly with you in Judgment:

First, we do hold controversy with you as concerning your call, your ministry, with which it does not
agree, but is contrary to what the apostles' call was; they were called by power from on high and were
made ministers by the gift of the holy spirit received from God, and their ministry was an absolute gift
from God, and not to be bought and sold for money; and they were anointed of the Father, by his spirit
of promise, to preach the gospel. But your call is at schools and colleges, in such and such orders, which
are attained through natural industry, such and such arts and sciences, and degrees, having been so
many years brought up in studying natural arts and natural languages; this is your ordination and your
call, having no respect to receive or to wait for the gift of the holy spirit, to be made ministers thereby;
and this is different from the apostles and true ministers, and equal and according to the false prophets
and deceivers.

Secondly. Again you are not according, but contrary to the true ministry and ministers of Christ in
practice; for they were led by the spirit of the Father which dwelt in them, and they preached the gospel
by the spirit, and spoke as the spirit gave them utterance, and went up and down the world through
nations, converting people to the knowledge of the truth; and what they had handled, tasted, seen, and
felt of the word of life in then, that they declared to others, and preached the gospel which they had
not received from man, nor by man, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ in them. But your practice is
not such, but contrary, for the spirit of this world leads you, and it you follow in all your works, in
your preaching, praying, and in your whole worship, in form and tradition; what you have studied out
of books and old authors, you preach to people, and what you have noted in a book, that you preach by
an hour glass, and not as the spirit of God gives you utterance.

And you seek out and inquire after great benefits, and much money by the year, and where there are
much tithes and parish property, and such like; there and to such a place, you go, and seek to be
ministers there, and there you remain twenty or forty years, more or fewer as you can agree with the
people, and while they will give you so much as will content you, and maintain you, your wives and
families, as you say, and regard not whether any be converted to God by your preaching, but people
remain always in blindness and ignorance generally, and without the knowledge of God. For you
preach other men's words, [repeating words from the Bible] and what you imagine their the saints' words
to mean, in a fixed time allotted, leaning upon a soft cushion, and for money and hire preaching to
the people, and this is your manner of practice, and ministry in these nations.

But thus did not the apostles, nor Christ's ministers; but the contrary. And by your fruits and works
it appears that you are not followers of that spirit that Christ and his ministers were guided by, neither
are lawful successors of the apostles; but by your fruits and practice you manifest that the Lord never
sent you, and Christ never called you into his service to be his ministers; for in all your practices and in
your whole performances of worship you differ, and do not agree with, but are contrary to what the
practice and worship of Christ's ministers and churches were in the days of the apostles. This I charge
upon you, in the name, and by the authority of the Lord God, and am able to prove it against you, face
to face, or otherwise to show that you are not of the same spirit, but contrary to the saints and apostles
of old, and so not true successors of them, nor lawful ministers of Christ; as to all people it is, and shall
be made manifest.

Thirdly. You disagree with and are contrary altogether to the true ministry, and to the apostles, in respect
of your maintenance and wages; for the wages which Christ allowed his ministers, was, into
whatsoever house they entered, that was worthy, they might eat such things as were set before them, for
the workman (said he) is worthy of his hire. And the apostles eat only of the fruit of the vineyard that
they had planted, and of the milk of the flock which they kept, by a free gift of the people, whom they
had begotten to the faith; and to whom they sowed spiritual things, it was but as a small matter if
they reaped their carnal things; and though as a free gift they would do it, yet the apostle said he would
not make the gospel of Christ chargeable. And in this manner were Christ's ministers and ministry in
wages and gifts, upheld and maintained outwardly in the world.

Edward Burrough

From Fox's Journal Again :

Any who speak in public, see that it be in the life of God; for that begets to God; the fruits of that shall
never wither. Speaking from the life sows to the spirit which is in prison, and of the spirit reaps life; and
the speaking from out of the light sows to the flesh, and of the flesh reaps corruption. This you may
see happening all the over world among those speaking out of the life; you can see what they may reap in
the field, that is the world. Therefore in the spirit of the Lord wait, which cuts down and casts out all
this, the root and branches of it. So in the light wait to receive power, and the Lord God
Almighty preserve you in it; whereby you may come to feel the light, that comprehends time and the
world, and penetrates it; believing in the light gives you victory over the world. Here the power of
the Lord is received, which subdues all the contrary, and puts off the garments that will stain
and pollute. With this light you come to reach the light in every man, with which Christ enlightens
every man that come into the world; and here the things of Christ come to be known, and the voice of
Christ heard. Therefore keep in the light, the covenant of peace; and walk in the covenant of life. There
is that which rejoices over the witness of God, and there is that which rejoices in the Lord; which is over
that which has made merry over it: of that take notice, you who are in the light. The Lord beautifies
those whose trust is in his strength; and the Lord sees those who trust in his strength and those that are
in his light. But those who are not from the light and whose eyes are after their abominations and idols,
their eyes are to be blinded; their beautiful idols and their abominations are to be destroyed, and by the
light condemned, which they have made from the life in their own strength; which with the light is seen,
and overthrown by the power of God. "If you can change my covenant," said the Lord, “which keeps the
day in its season, and the night in its season, (mark, my covenant, the light), if you can change this,
then may you change the covenant of God with his seed." So all Friends that are turned to the light
which comes from him by whom the world was made, who was before it was made, Christ Jesus, the
savior of your souls, abide in the light, and you will see your salvation to be walls and bulwarks against
that which the light discovers to be contrary to it. Waiting in the light you will receive the power of
God, which is the gospel of peace, that you may be shod with it. And know that in one another which
raises up the seed of God, sets it over the world and the earth, and crucifies the affections and lusts: then
the truth comes to reign, which is the the band that encircles.

George Fox

Here Are Some Common Scriptures Quoted by those who want to ignore
Peter's and Christs commands to freely give and preach not for filthy lucre.

The most frequent scriptures quoted is: 1 Timothy 5:17-20

17The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those
whose work is preaching and teaching. 18For the Scripture says, "Do not muzzle the ox while it
is treading out the grain," and "The worker deserves his wages." 19Do not entertain an
accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. 20Those who sin are to
be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning.

The New International says "the worker deserves his wages." The King James says 'reward,' not
'wages'; the Amplified says 'hire'. Remember the scripture, 'the wages of sin is death;' wages is a not
literal in that statement; it means the result. Paul is using the term wages here similarly. When you look
at the whole admonition, it is clear he is talking about honor here, not money. Elders deserve their
reward: love, honor, and respect from their flock for whom the elder works. He even says they
deserve double honor. He is even careful to be sure no charge is made against an elder without two or
three witnesses. He is trying to be sure they are properly respected, honored, and loved by their flock.

Luke 10:7-8 Jesus said: And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give:
for the laborer is worthy of his hire. So here Jesus says, eat and drink such things as they
give, because a worker worthy is hire. This is the wages that Christ allows, gifts.

He further says: And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set
before you. He does not say: order them to serve you whatever you want, or tell them to give you money
so you can go out and buy whatever you want. He says: take whatever they set before you - whatever
they give you.

When you ask, and someone complies, it is not a gift, it is a solicitation. Fund-raising is asking.
Passing the plate is asking.

This scripture is not justification for soliciting or taking a salary of 'filthy lucre' from the flock.

The next scriptures quoted to justify taking 'filthy lucre' from congregations
is: 1 Corinthians 9:5-6

Don't we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the
Lord's brothers and Cephas? Or is it only I and Barnabas who must work for a living?

Here's the logic: Barnabas and Paul were the only ones working for a living; all the other apostles did
not work - so that means pastors don't have to work for a living either and instead can take filthy lucre
from their congregations. (I would be really ashamed to try to use this logic to justify my wages from
a congregation, for such logic pleads: 'not working for a living.')

Cephas is the name Jesus gave to Peter, who said 'do not preach for filthy lucre.' The above
logic concludes that Peter was violating his own command. Peter would not preach for filthy lucre,
violating his own command. So that logic doesn't justify asking for money.

As has been explained by George Fox, when a true minister of the word of faith brings someone the
"living words of truth spoken from the Spirit of God;" the person who receives them is so overjoyed
and grateful, their possessions are no longer important to them; they know they are part of the whole
Body of Christ, and they are eager to supply, unsolicited gifts, to meet any need they see of the
"man speaking the words of God from the Spirit of God," including their least valued treasures
- mammon - but the true man of God would never ask. If the minister had needs, he could gratefully
receive the totally unsolicited gift of love, included but not limited to money; the true reward is to see
Christ manifested in his followers and to love that person as though he is Christ. The true reward is to
have their spirits knit together in love. The true reward is LOVE. None of the early Quaker ministers
ever charged or took a salary; some were ministers for 50 years - supported by either working for a living
or unsolicited gifts of love.

But, unless the offered gift was needed, the Quaker ministers would not accept the offers. Below is a
quote from William Caton's biography, describing his early ministry in the England: (Caton was
under twenty years of age with no life savings)

We were also at Cranbrook and Staplehurst, where we found a very open people, who were very ready
to receive and to embrace the everlasting truth, which we freely and powerfully, according to our measures
received, administered unto them, in the demonstration of the eternal Spirit. We had several large and
precious meetings among them, and the power and presence of the Lord God were much with us, in
which we rejoiced together, freely distributing the Word of life unto them, which at that
time dwelled richly and plenteously in our hearts; and as we had received it freely, so we
did dispense the same freely. For though there were those that would have given us both gold
and money, which some would even have forced upon us, yet we had not freedom to receive
one penny of them; for we told them it was not theirs possessions, but them, which
we sought. Many were convinced and much affected with the truth, which with joy and gladness they
received.

When you ask, and someone complies, it is not a gift, it is a solicitation. Fund-raising is asking.
Passing the plate is asking.

How much more would these unsolicited gifts be offered to those who raised the dead, healed the
sick, cast out demons, and preached the Kingdom being near; as did the Apostles of the early church?
I certainly would not hesitate to give one my car, all my money, whatever I could possibly live without.
And that is exactly how the early Church in Jerusalem was funded:

Nor was there a destitute or needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or
houses proceeded to sell them, and one by one they brought (gave back) the amount received from the sales.

And laid it at the feet of the apostles (special messengers). Then distribution was made according as
anyone had need.
Acts 4:34-35 Notice, this does not say the apostles took the money for their own use.

This scripture is not justification for taking a salary or soliciting 'filthy lucre' from the flock.

The next scriptures quoted to justify taking 'filthy lucre' from congregations
is: 1 Corinthians 9:7-14

7Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its grapes?
Who tends a flock and does not drink of the milk? 8Do I say this merely from a human point of
view? Doesn't the Law say the same thing? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an
ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10Surely he says this for
us, doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher
threshes, they ought to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest, [the harvest is love, not money]. 11If
we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12If
others have this right of support from you, shouldn't we have it all the more? But we did not use
this right. On the contrary, we would put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel
of Christ. 13Don't you know that those who work in the temple get their food from the temple, and
those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? 14In the same way, the Lord
has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

Sharing in the grapes, the milk, the altar - is sharing in the fruit of the love of the flock. As each member
of the flock produces fruit, they are knit into the heart of their spiritual Father. Their spiritiual Father
then shares in the conduit of love between them, to the Father, and to their fellow believers. This love is
the gift of the altar in the temple, the temple being the hearts of the flock. And if the flock truly has
love, that love would include unsolicited gifts to anyone with need within the flock, especially the
pastor. To "share in the harvest" is to eat of the Fruit of the Spirit produced - to share in
the Love of the congregation - love that would be automatically felt by the flock's pastor
and spiritual Father, who had helped the members to produce the fruit of the spirit.

Yes, the Lord will be sure that his true ministers will receive their living from the gospel
and are provided with their material needs, but not by asking for money and/or asking for
tithes which died with the Levitical priesthood along with the Law. The grateful recipients of their words
of Truth spoken from the Spirit of God, would supply their needs by unsolicited gifts. Compared to
the spiritual benefits which the people received from the true ministers of Christ, it was a small matter
if they reaped carnal things as free gifts. Paul states he would not take any money, even unsolicited
gifts, because he 'would put up with anything, rather than hinder the gospel.' He did later accept
two unsolicited gifts, for which he was thankful and said he had been in great need.

Click on this to see all the references to deacon, pastors, bishops, etc. being disqualified if given to
filthy lucre.

As Paul says: What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make
the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel. 1 Cor 9:18

And Paul further says: Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour
and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we
have not power, but to make ourselves an example unto you to follow us. 2 Thes 3:8-9 (Paul
was hoping to set an example for pastors, which example the great majority have failed to notice.)

Paul again: Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many,
that they may be saved.
1 Cor 10:33

And Paul said: Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.
On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God. 2 Cor 2:17

When you ask, and someone complies, it is not a gift, it is a solicitation. Fund-raising is asking.
Passing the plate is asking.

This scripture is not justification for taking a salary or soliciting 'filthy lucre' from the flock.

The next scriptures quoted to justify taking 'filthy lucre' from congregations
is:Matthew 10:8-10

Jesus said: Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely
you have received, freely give.Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; take no
bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

Ignoring the 'freely you have received, freely give' part of this scripture, they quote: for the worker
is worth his keep.
(to ignore the 'freely give,' while in the same verse, quoting 'the worker is worth his keep' is classic
"cherry picking;" finding isolated verses in the Bible that support their particular doctrines, while
ignoring the rest.)

In Luke 10:1-8 we have the same account of Jesus sending disciples out with additional information.
Jesus said:

And stay on in the same house, eating and drinking what they provide, for the laborer is worthy of his wages.
Do not keep moving from house to house.
Whenever you go into a town and they receive and accept and welcome you, eat what is set before you.

So here Jesus says, eat and drink what they provide, because the laborer is worthy of his
wages . What they provide is the wages that Christ allows. This is not justification for asking
or charging people for their work.

Not taking money, extra clothing, shoes, or staff, and freely giving, refers to Christ wanting to show
them how they would be provided for, based on their work of healing the sick, casting out demons,
raising the dead, and preaching the Kingdom is near. If a person receives such a true worker, actually
sent by Christ, that person out of gratitude will give him anything he needs, UNSOLICITED. A
true minister of God would never ask for money, or shoes, or clothing, or a staff; he would mow lawns
first. He did not tell them to go in and demand money, clothing, shoes, and staff; he said, 'freely give.'
He told them what to give, (healing, preaching, raising the dead, casting out demons), and he said do
it 'freely.'

Christ was trying to show his disciples that He could take care of all their needs; he wanted them to
have confidence that God could provide for their needs. Out of gratitude for seeing someone healed,
raised from the dead, or demons cast out, or hearing the real news of the Kingdom, anyone would
gladly offer to share any of their material possessions with such a worker; that was the intention of
sending them out without money and telling them not to charge for their ministering. They would not
have to ask; they were forbidden to ask: Christ said, 'freely give.'

When you ask, and someone complies, it is not a gift, it is a solicitation. Fund-raising is asking.
Passing the plate is asking.

This scripture is not justification for taking a salary or soliciting 'filthy lucre' from the flock.
Christ is still powerful enough to take care of the needs of his (if designated by
him specifically) ministers today; but they may have to work like Paul did, (he was
a tentmaker to provide for his needs.)
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To Be Born Again,
You Must First Die to Self

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You must loose your life to save it.

You must become an entirely new creature, with a new heart and new mind.
This does not happen with reading scripture, saying a prayer, getting wet, or saying Jesus is Lord.
If you are born again, your lust and desires have been crucified to death of self.
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him;
and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. 1 John 3:9

from George Fox's Journal:

You must have fellowship with Christ in his sufferings; 1 Pet 4:12-13
if you will reign with him, you must suffer with him; 2 Tim 2:12
if you will live with him, you must die with him; 2 Tim 2:11
and if you die with him, you must be buried with him; Rom 6:4
and being buried with him in the true baptism, you also rise with
him. Col 2:12

There must be "a coming into his death, a suffering with Christ;"
and this is of necessity to salvation;
and not temporarily, but continually: there must be a "dying daily."

(John Richardson, 18th Century Minister): "Except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of
God." No, the natural and unregenerate man cannot so much as see the heavenly and spiritual kingdom
of Christ, which stands not only in power, but also in righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Spirit;
and to be born again is not to be done imperceptibly, no more than the natural birth can be brought
forth without trouble; and to pretend to be in Christ and not to be new creatures, is
preposterous; and to pretend to be new creatures and yet not able to render any account
how it was performed, is unreasonable; for it could not be without our knowledge; for to be born
again signifies to be quickened and raised into a spiritual and new life, by which the body of the sins of
the flesh is mortified and we come to live a self-denying life. Those who are crucified with Christ are
crucified to their sins, that as he died for sin, we ought to die to sin. In that state we live not after the
flesh, although we live, as the apostle Paul said, in the flesh; but the life which these live is through faith
in the Son of God. And to supposedly have all this, and much more wrought in us, and we know nothing
of it, is unaccountable.

Presumption of being born again, instead of experiential reality, is make-

believe Christianity.
Such Christianity is of Babylon and the beast with horns like a lamb that the
whole world follows.
Father Enter the Kingdom of Heaven
The following is testimonial made by William Dewsbury, regarding
the new birth:

My Friends,

'Except you are regenerated and born again, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God.'

This is the word of the Lord God to all people this day;
this lies not in lofty words, and in vain imagination, and whatever else it is that you deck yourselves
with;
you must every particular man and woman be born again,
else you cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.
This was the doctrine of Christ, in that prepared body in which he appeared in the world,
and preached to Nicodemus that standing doctrine to this moment of time,
and will be so while any man breathes upon the earth;
there is no other way, no other gate to enter into life,
but by this great work of regeneration.
Now, to enforce people to come to this great work,
and to set forward from earth to heaven,
all having been driven out of paradise by the cherubim set with a flaming sword,
there is no returning to that blessed life,
but by the loss of that life that grieved the Spirit of God, and what caused man to be driven out;
there is no other way of return again, but by this new birth.
Just as you are all driven and forced out of paradise,
and the flaming sword and the cherubims are set to guard the way of the tree of life,
so you must return into the favor of God again, by the light of Christ;
and you have line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, and there a little,
to direct your minds to the light of Christ Jesus.
As the first Adam was made a living soul, so the second Adam is a quickening spirit.
Know this for certain, no man or woman can be quickened,
and raised up into the life of the second Adam,
until the life of the first Adam is taken away from them.

So now, let every one of you deal plainly with your own hearts,
how you came to be a slain people to the life of the first Adam,
in which life there was a working of the mystery of iniquity in every part of man.
One cries "Lo, here is Christ;" another, "Lo, there is Christ;"
and every one is following his own imagination about the letter of the Scripture;
this is still but the vain spirit of man, running and striving to recover himself;
and this is the cause there is so much profession of God,
and so little of his nature appearing among the sons and daughters of men. (profession without
possession)
Now, all of you that come to be regenerated,
you must come to the light of Christ; there is no other way to it.
He will search your hearts, and try your reins,
and set your sins in order before you,
and trace out the iniquities that compass you about.
Therefore you must see yourselves a lost people, a sinful people,
and so come to feel the weight of your sins upon your consciences;
there is no other way to come to life.
You will never complain of sin until you are burdened with it,
until you have a trumpet sounding in your ears, to awaken you,
that you may arise from the dead, that Christ may give you light.
There is no other way, dear people.
You must bring your deeds to the light of Christ, and abide in the sentence of condemnation;
if you save your lives, you lose them;
if you will lose your lives for Christ's sake, there is no danger of your eternal life.
John the Baptist, Christ's forerunner declared, 'I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance,
but he that comes after me is mightier than I,
the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose,
he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire;
whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor,
and will gather his wheat into his garner, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.'
What is the good of you reading Scriptures, if you don’t know this fiery baptism,
which all must know that are regenerated.
Do not deceive not yourselves. Christ will appear in flaming fire,
and take vengeance on all those that do not know God,
and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I stand here as a witness of the Lord of life this day.

There is no way for people to come to salvation,
but they must know Christ revealed in all their hearts.
What is he doing, but rendering vengeance upon the carnal mind,
self-pleasing, and all inordinate affections;—
he comes with vengeance to take away your life;
he will baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.
If you have not experienced this, you are not a true Christian,
you will never look death in the face with joy, nor go down to the grave with triumph.
If you live at home in the body, and flee for your life,
and are not willing to lose your life for Christ, if you are called to it;
and if you will not have Christ to wash you,
(some for shyness, and some for self-love will refuse this),
if Christ does not wash you, you have no part in him.
You must come to Christ, to purify you in the fiery furnace.
The day of the Lord shall burn as an oven, as the prophet speaks;
this is a dreadful day, a day of vengeance,
the day of the Lord Jesus Christ, who redeems his people from their sins.
Zion is redeemed with judgment, and established with righteousness.
Do not make the way to heaven easier in your minds and imaginations than indeed it is;
and think it sufficient to live in an outward observance of the ways of God.
If your own wills are alive, and your corruptions remain un-mortified,
the judgment of God will be your portion.
Therefore, in the Lord's name, come along with me,
I have come to declare what I have heard and seen of the Father.
Come and examine your conscience. Have you brought your deeds to the light?
Then you have received condemnation upon yourself, and your haughtiness is bowed down,
and laid low, and you see yourself a poor miserable wretch, before the eternal God.
Whatever you know of the mind of God, have you reformed your ways?
Come along with me, and tell me what is the ground of your faith, and your confidence.
Is it your obedience and qualifications?
Because if your obedience is right, and your qualifications right, what use do you make of them?
Read the book of conscience; have you no ground for your faith?
You have put on the reformed faith, and live an unreformed life.
Search and try yourself, man or woman.
Do you watch over yourself, and keep in a sense of your separation from God,
despite all your qualifications and partial reformation?
Do you strive to enter in at the strait gate, and the narrow way?
Here is the lost sheep you seek, the life of your will, the life of the first Adam.
The justice of God will not allow you to make a savior of your duties and qualifications;
and to take God's jewels, and to deck yourself with them.
You cannot be saved without the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
What did your conscience say, have you been brought to this change of your mind, and of your
conversation?
Are you all willing to part with your sins, with your pride and haughtiness?
Are you willing to part with your vile affections? This is the work of God's grace upon you.
Do you place your confidence in your duties and qualifications,
and take God's jewels and ornaments, and deck yourself with them?
You took my jewels, said the Lord, and did play the harlot;
if you return to the Lord, and humble yourself, and get through this difficulty, you will be happy
forever.
This judgment of God, this flaming sword that turns every way,
will keep you from returning to sin, and bring you to Christ,
and cut you off from all hope of salvation but by him,
and make you to see the absolute need of a Savior,
and that your life is hidden with Christ in God.

It is God's infinite goodness to men, that he will take their pride from them, and humble them under his
mighty hand.
This is the condition of poor persons that are slain by the hands of the Most High.
How can I know, when I have been slain and baptized,
and possess this death and baptism with sincerity?
They that have this baptism, enter into the heavenly life;
if you love the light of Christ Jesus, it will be the same with you.
God will make short work in the earth.
He will set your sins in order before you, and make you watchful unto prayer,
and lead you to holiness of life and conversation, and make you abhor yourself,
and despise all the pomp and pleasures and vanities of this world.
When he has adorned you with his graces, then watch for the light,
and in the light of Christ you shall see light,
and that all you have done to please God, and can do to please God, is only your duty.
All this you ought to do; you are God's creature,
and all this will not justify you in order to your eternal salvation, for these services you owe unto God.
If you diligently wait, you shall see more light;
then the sword that proceeds out of the mouth of Christ, who is called "the Word of God,"
will cut you off from all your hopes of salvation from anything you have done,
from any of your qualifications, from anything that you can do;
so that you will be a hopeless soul, nothing in your own sense and apprehension;
the power of the first Adam must die before him,
and you will cry out, "I am a dead, lost, and undone creature;"
but there is a life hidden with Christ in God for me,
but I can never have it, until I am slain into the will of God,
and have become as a little child, and be stripped of all my own excellence that I have attained;
and I must come to a sense of my own misery, and fall down at the foot of God;
when I have become as a little child, humbled and slain as to my own will, and confidence in my own
righteousness,
I will not then question but I shall live a holy life,
but I will give all that life I had, for that life which is hidden with Christ in God:'
Oh!—there is none that come so far, that ever miss of eternal life.
All shuffling people, that would have salvation by Christ,
and will not let him exercise his heavenly power, his princely, glorious power to baptize them into his
death,
it is they that come short of salvation;
but all those that yield themselves up to Christ to be redeemed through judgment,
and are become as little children, these are in a happy state.
You know that our Lord Jesus Christ took a little child in his arms,
and said, "Whoever does not come as a little child, cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven:"
you must all of you become as little children, and depend upon the mercy and free grace of God;
you must all come to a holy resignation of your wills to God's disposal;
if you come to Christ as little children, and depend upon him, you cannot miss of salvation;
it is bestowed upon such souls that hear the voice of Christ,
"they that hear the voice of the Son of God shall live."

I stand here as a witness for the God of heaven,

I never heard the voice of Christ (as his follower)
until I was slain and baptized, and lay as a little child under his heavenly chastisements;
as soon as ever my soul was brought to this, in my humiliation,
Oh! then, the dreadful judgment was taken away, and the book of life was opened unto me,
and the Lord spoke comfortably to me, 'I have loved you with an everlasting love;"
and I was made a Christian through a day of vengeance, and of burning as an oven;
and the haughtiness and pride of man in me was brought low.
Now in this conformity to Christ's death, people may die into life,
and blessed are the dead that die in the Lord, for they rest from their labors, and their works do follow
them.
Away with all your own wills, and your pride, and haughtiness;
and your hypocrisy and deceit, and all dependence upon any qualifications of your own;
you must come to have your life separated from you, else you will all perish.
Those that will die with Christ, and be willing to die for him, he is revealed as a Savior to
them.
He was before us in the days of his flesh, and complied with his Father's will; he was nailed to the cross.
The Son of God, when he had come to the depth of his sufferings, what
was his cry, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me!'
This was for your sake, and my sake, and every man's and woman's sake that believe in him;
he drank the cup which his Father gave him to drink.
If it was done thus to the green tree, what shall be done unto the dry?
He went before us, and when he comes again, he will take us to himself,
and take us from the filth of sin, that we may be made new creatures."
Now except we are born again, we cannot enter into the kingdom of God,
and there is no becoming new creatures, until we are slain to the old man.
You must be slain to your pride, and haughtiness, and the corruption of your own will,
and all selfishness, you must have God to burn it up in you.
The Holy Ghost will destroy, and burn up nothing in you,
but that which will bring an eternal fire upon your soul.'
Show me, you whom my soul loves,
where is the path of life, the footsteps of the flock of your companions?
Why should I be as one that goes aside?'
Now every one that lives at home in the bosom of self, take this with you,
though you profess the Truth, and live in an outward conformity to it,
yet if you secretly indulge your corrupt wills, and live a flesh-pleasing life,
and consult with flesh and blood, and are not torn away from your lusts,
you cannot enjoy the Lord of Life;
'while I am at home in the body, I am absent from the Lord.'

The body of sin is a loadstone to draw you from the life of God, and from glorying in the cross of Christ:
this is flesh and blood, and flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
For the Lord's sake, for your soul's sake, and for the sake of your eternal happiness,
do not put off this work, but pursue it, and it will be perfected.
See how Christ is revealed in you by the Holy Ghost, and with fire.
God will redeem you by the Spirit of judgment and burning: it is not ranging abroad in your minds,
but you must "know Christ is in you except you be reprobates:"
if he has set your eyes and hearts upon himself, and made you to water your couch with your tears;
if he has broken your sleep, so as you have cried out,
"I shall be damned, and never come to salvation;" (this will be your cry, it was once my cry;)

O let not your eyes slumber, nor your eyelids take any rest, until you are sure the Lord is your God.
if you find these qualifications, your are on your way,
otherwise you will be like a deceitful bow, and never abide in judgment;
if you reject the counsel of God against yourselves, and refuse to be crucified with Christ,
and to be baptized with his baptism, you will never have life;
but only by his baptism, and through the heavenly operation of his Spirit,
if you have faith in Christ's name, you shall be married to him in everlasting righteousness;
salvation shall be brought to us, and eternal life be bestowed upon us;
even that life which is hidden with Christ in God,
he will give to every poor mournful soul that submits to his blessed will, and believes in the Lord Jesus
Christ.
This is not a faith of our own making, nor a garment of our own embroidery, but that which the Lord has
given to us.
Oh happy man or woman, that obtains this gift of God!
Oh, who will not lose their lives for this everlasting life?
Who will not die for this eternal life?
Now, the matter lies in the death of your own wills;
when you have done the will of God, then - watch that your own wills are slain,
and that your cursed self takes not the jewels of God, and his bracelets and ornaments,
and bestows them upon self, to paint and deck the cursed self;
and take not the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot.
If you are dead to your own wills, you are risen with Christ, and shall receive a resurrection to eternal
life.
Crucify self, and set the world at nothing, and trample upon it,
and all the things of it, and count them as dross and dung in comparison of Christ,
whom the Father has revealed to be our life, in the days of our sorrow and mourning,
in the day of our calamity, in the day when we cried, 'Our hope is lost!'

Thus it has been with the holiest people on earth;

it is not by works of righteousness of your own that you can be saved;
Christ comes to cut all these down, that you may be engrafted into him, and justified by his grace.
Do not make this a matter of talk, and say, I have heard this and that;
but look into your own hearts, and see what heavenly workings are there.
What is there that is of the power of the Lord Jesus,
that has made you to loathe this world, and the inordinate love of the man,
that you may enjoy all these things as if you enjoyed them not.
We cannot, when we are slain and crucified to this world, but say,
'My life is in Christ,’ when we come to ascribe nothing to ourselves, and all to Christ.
Here is a blessed harmony, broken hearts, melted spirits, and yet joyful souls;
poor creatures, that were mourning, and sighing, and crying before the Lord in retired places,
and yet rejoicing in Christ Jesus, 'I am risen with Christ;'
I said, 'My hope is cut off, I will lie down in your will, O God; do what you will with me,
it is in your sovereign pleasure and free gift, whether you give me life or deny it to me.'
There must be a resignation of ourselves to the will of God.
It was so with the Lord Jesus and it is so with every true saint of God.
You must be humbled as little children, before the judgment is taken away,
and the loving kindness of God sealed upon your souls.
If you seek this work of God, you will find it;
if you seek it upon your beds, in all your labors and concernments, in all your stations and relations;
if you press after the new birth, you must use this world as if you used it not,
and live a married life as if you were unmarried,
for the fashion of this world passes away. This is not high notions.

But, let me tell you, a new world comes by regeneration.

A man is not lifted up in his own mind, but laid low in his own eyes,
he waits for the wisdom of God to govern him,
and he is as a steward of the grace of God, to give to them that stand in need.
When a man is regenerated and born again,
he is as contented with bread and water, as with all the enjoyments of this world:— what is the
difference?
His own will is gone, and put down under his feet,
and whatever it is that gives life to all his vain desires and affections;
there is a harmony of all within, a man praising of God, and blessing his holy name.
There are no entanglements to draw away the heart from serving of God, and seeking his glory;
and if God shall call the husband from the wife, or the wife from the husband, for the glory of his name,
there is no whining and complaining, and crying out, but giving them up,
and a praising and blessing God, when they are called to such an exercise;
and if they are not called to that, then they set their hearts to glorify God in their several places and
stations;
then they have a full content in a blessed resignation.
Here their wills are slain, but they praise God they have no desire,
but, 'Lord, your will be done!' always praising God, always having the fear and the glory of God before
their eyes.
All the mischief is hatched in pleasing men's own wills;
that is, the counsel of every heart that Christ does not govern.
Will you live as the Quakers? Then you must live contemptibly,
the mistress and the maid are 'hail fellows well met.'
Every one must walk in humility, and live in acquaintance with the God of heaven;
she that is wrought upon by the same Spirit, must with all diligence behave herself as becomes a servant
of the Lord.
Here is now a new world, and the fashions of the old world are gone;
pride, haughtiness, crossness, and trampling upon one another are all
gone,
all slain through the operation of Christ.

What remains now,—Christ is in me, and we are all one in him;

Christ laid down his life for you and me; now he reigns in me,
and he has prepared my body to die for the Truth,
as his prepared body was laid down for my sin.
It is a kind of foolish profession, to make profession of Christ,
and live in covetousness, profaneness, sensuality, and the like;
they that have come to this heavenly birth, seek the things that are above, you can do nothing else.
Make the tree good, and the fruit will be good.
You must be engrafted into the vine of God's righteousness:
Oh slight not the day of your visitation.
What was it to me to read of any being born again, until I was slain,
and knew the heavenly baptism of Christ Jesus?
Till I saw the flaming sword ready to slay me in every way, in every turning.
The light of Christ convinced me of sin, and his righteousness justified me,
and those works were abominable to me, that hindered my soul's passage to Christ;
Christ Jesus in marrying my soul to himself seized upon me, and did work effectually in me.
There is the testimony of Christ in me, he has sealed up my soul to the day of my redemption.
Here is a certain passage, and a certain way which never any miss of, that lose their lives for Christ.
If you are not ready and willing to lose your lives for Christ, you shall
never come here;
the gate is strait, and the way is narrow, none come here but those that die into a heavenly oneness with
Christ.
O Friends, let us empty ourselves, that Christ may fill us;
let us be nothing in our own eyes, that we may be all in him, and receive of his fullness.

Now I commend you to God's witness, that you may remember what has been spoken among you.
But consider, if you do not listen to it, it will follow you, and be a plague to you to all eternity.
If you will not yield up yourselves to Christ, this day that burns like an oven,
this fire you must dwell with when out of the body, there will be no quenching of this fire forever;
but if you are so wise for your souls, as to resign yourselves up to Christ,
and come to him as little children, this will not hinder your earthly concerns;
though the world may account you a fool, yet you have that part of heavenly wisdom to do what you do
as unto God.
You conduct yourself to your wife, as in the sight of God, that she may be sanctified to you, and you to
her;
and you conduct yourself becomingly to your children and servants,
and you will abound in grace, and in every good work, which will be for your eternal welfare.

O, I beseech you, people, for the Lord's sake,

wait for the light of Christ to guide you;
learn of him to be meek and lowly, then you are happy;
for he dwells with the humble, but he beholds the proud from far away.
This new birth, which is a true work, a sincere and heavenly work,
which will make you [happy] forever.
Oh make room for Christ in your hearts, or else he is never likely to dwell with you;
he loves to dwell with the poor and humble and contrite spirit,
he abhors the proud; he will empty your souls, that he may fill them.

And so I commend you to God.

I have been long held in imprisonment under great weakness;
and I was restless, until I could come up to this great city of London,
to preach the everlasting gospel among you, and you see I am among you here:
pray, every one of you, turn inward;
let not these words, passing through a dishonorable vessel, be as a bare empty discourse of Truth to you,
which you only hear, and take no further care of your salvation.
Take heed of despising the light that shines in the midst of you,
and be pressing forward to the heavenly work that is laid in the power of Christ Jesus,
even through judgment into death, and then he will give eternal life;
the Lord confirm this, that it may rest upon your hearts, that you may be dead to the things of the world.
"We have not to come to Mount Sinai, that genders to bondage,
but we have come to Mount Zion, the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the first born which
are written in heaven,
and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Abel."
This is the inheritance of the redeemed of the Most High, blessed be the name of the Lord!
Let us rest in hope, until he bring us to humility and lowliness of mind,
that he may clothe us with heavenly glory, according to his promise,
'I will beautify my house with glory,' said the Lord.
This is the portion of a poor people, that cast down themselves before the Lord,
that he may lift them up, and be all in all to them,
in whose blessed presence they shall have joy, and rivers of pleasures at his right
hand forevermore!

End

A general Epistle given forth from the Spirit of the Lord to the
Early Quakers
Dear Friends,

CALLED in the light of the Lord to stand living witnesses for him upon the earth among the children of
men: oh! the bowels of the love of the Lord which is in my heart to you, that when I was near to death, to
the sight of all that saw me, as to the outward man, and scarce able to speak, I was constrained to give
forth the substance of what is now sent among you, for a perfect discovery of your conditions. Seeing
that many are called and few chosen, and many convinced that are not converted; therefore are these
lines written, that you may truly know whether you be born again, and redeemed from the earth, yes or
no.

And unto that, let every man and woman search their hearts with the light of the Lord, and it will truly
manifest whether you are born again, and so feed upon the tree of life, or whether you rest in outward
formal conformity to the Truth, having the heart in the earth, for that spirit will turn against Truth, as it
has done. Some others are drawn to delight their hearts in the gifts, parts, and knowledge, which the
Lord has given them, more than in the Lord, the fountain from where they come; and so abuse the gift,
and feed upon the fruit of the tree of knowledge which puffs up, and makes man wise in his own eyes,
and to say in his heart,—'I am wise and rich, and see, and want nothing,' when they are blind, miserable,
naked, and need all things. Whatever any profess, as to the service of God, that are in this condition,
they have an end to themselves in what they do, which grieves the Spirit of the Lord, when men and
women in a talkative spirit take upon them to declare the Truth, when the Lord neither calls them, nor
speaks by them; so the children born of the royal seed are burdened, (for such have turned against the
Truth, and the children born of it), whom the Lord has and will ease in the day determined, when all
mouths shall be closed in silence, but those which are opened by him, and not any voice be heard, but
his own Spirit speaking in and through his own children, born of him, who alone seek his glory, and not
anything for themselves, which must be denied. Therefore, seeing the enemy's wiles are great and many,
let all dread the Lord; and those who have been led astray, wait in the heart-searching light, to see where
the mystery of iniquity led them forth, and return to the light, to judge down proud exalted self which
has turned against the Truth, and to bring into true poverty and abhorring of self; waiting at the throne
of grace, for the Lord to raise you up in the resurrection which raised up Jesus from the dead; and in
this life, contentious self is buried in death, and the true unity is known, where the Lord alone is exalted
in purity, joy, love, and peace in all his, from the least to the highest growth, and all flesh is abased
before him, who is worthy of all obedience, praise, and glory forever, Amen.

And all dear Friends and Brethren that love the light, and rejoice in the judgments of the Lord, to have
subtle self buried in the true death, that whatsoever gifts of the Spirit the Lord gives unto you, and the
enemy tempts you ever so strongly to puff you up in a self-priding spirit, in what you have received of
the Lord; yet his fear is so minded by you, which keeps you in a true sense of your nothingness and
emptiness in yourselves, which causes you to wait in true self-denial, for the daily assistance, and
renewal of your strength in the resurrection of life in the Lord Jesus; and the more he manifests his
power with you, the more empty and nothing you appear in your own eyes. And so is the true birth
known, which makes self of no reputation, that the Lord may be exalted in his unlimited power, in
manifesting himself in the poverty, emptiness, and nothingness of his people who are born of him, that
no flesh may glory before him; but that all in truth say,—'The Lord does all in me, and through me, and
the Lord shall have the glory; and I will sit in the dust at his feet with all my brethren and sisters, to
serve him (through whom we are raised up to sit in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus), and his people,
in what I may, while I have a being among the sons of men, to the glory of his name forever.' And this is
the state of the true disciples of Christ that cannot feed on the fruit of the tree of knowledge, although in
your journey and travels, dear vessels of the Lord, you see the tree of knowledge to be good, where it
stands in its place, but the fruit is not good to eat and feed upon, because knowledge puffs up, but grace
makes humble.

Therefore, dear Brethren and Sisters, born of God, who cannot live in any enjoyment, but as you enjoy
the life and presence of God, from where every good and perfect gift comes; and, dear lambs, although
some of you be, in your own eyes, the poorest among the people of the Lord; yes, sometimes your trials
are so great, that you are ready to account yourselves unworthy to be numbered among the people of the
Lord, and yet you dare not disobey him, neither can you live without his presence:—Oh, you dear
children of God! lift up your heads over all temptations and accusations of the enemy; for your groans
and cries are entered into the ears of the Lord God, who in the bowels of his love and mercies does
constrain me to proclaim the day of the tender compassion of the Lord, to all you who are truly poor in
your spirits. Oh! blessed are you among the children of men, for yours is the kingdom of God:—therefore
be not weary of waiting upon the Lord, for in his own time he will turn your sorrows into joy, and give to
you the spirit of praises for the spirit of heaviness, as he has done to many who have endured the like
temptations, trials, and sufferings, under which you wait this day for deliverance; and the Lord will be
the same to you. Therefore be of good comfort; for as the serpent was lifted up in the wilderness, so is
the Son of Man lifted up in the light and covenant of life, to heal your wounds, and save you from sin,
and to give you victory over the enemy in all his appearances; so that you, through faith in the name of
Christ, making war in righteousness, and fighting the good fight in keeping the faith, will be made more
than conquerors through his love that he will shed abroad in your hearts, which will cause you to speak
of his goodness, and praise his name for all his mercies.

And all dear children of the Lord, who witness in measure that you are truly baptized into his death, and
so are made partakers of his resurrection, as is before written, which is the life that worships him
according to his own will, and so is truly accepted of him,—watch and pray, that you may be guided in
the power of his Spirit in all your ways; and be careful that not any be hasty to utter words before the
Lord, neither suffer any sighs or groans, or anything to be heard to pass through you, but as you have
the seal of the Spirit of the Lord, that he requires it of you; this I am commanded to lay as a charge upon
you, so that all flesh may be truly silent before the Lord, and not any voice be heard, but the living Spirit
of the Lord speaking in his people, which, you that wait in the fear of the Lord, and mind his leadings,
may truly know; as it is written, so do his children witness,—'He that has my word, said the Lord, let
him speak my word faithfully; is not my word like a fire and a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?'
Therefore, all mind to feel the word of the Lord speaking in you, that the pure burning life of the Spirit
may be tasted and felt in whatsoever you be exercised in, so that you may be fully assured it is not your
own work, as man speaking of God, but the Lord alone uttering his own voice in the forcible power of
his own Spirit, in what you are exercised in, whether it be to pray in sighs, or groans, or in words, or to
speak in exhortation or praises. You are not to quench the Spirit of the Lord in this his day, that he is
come and does appear, in giving many gifts unto his people, in his appearance, as he did among his
disciples who waited at Jerusalem for the pouring forth of his Spirit from on high; but they that were
strangers to the work of the Spirit, could not taste the life that spoke in them, but said, they were mad,
and full of new wine; but the Lord justified them, it being the work of his own Spirit, and although he
gave unto them various gifts, yet all in the unity of himself, in which they sacrificed, in returning to the
Lord his own with advantage, to the glory of his great name, as his children do this day. Blessed be his
name forever, that out of the mouths of babes his praise is declared, in their measures, as it is with those
of higher growth in the Lord; and so do the faithful laborers reap the fruit for which they travail, that all
the people of the Lord may be filled with his Spirit, and in the exercise and leadings thereof, become a
body of living ministers, and a family of prophets; the strong leading the weak by the hand and in tender
love, building up one another in their most holy faith, which gives the victory over the world, to reign in
the heavenly dominion, which causes the children of the Most High, in the authority of the Lord, to say
to the greatest persecutors,—'0h man! do what you have power, the God whom we serve is able to
deliver us out of your hand; but if he will not, we are resolved in his strength to suffer what he permits
man to do;' and this is the holy resolution of all that are born again, and cannot hide your heads in the
time of persecution, because you are born of the royal seed, and have overcome the beggarly, cowardly,
earthly spirit, through the blood of the Lamb, and the word of your testimony, and no more love your
lives unto death.

And all dear chosen vessels of the Lord, seeing he has manifested his grace so largely to you, with all
diligence be obedient in walking suitably to his love and mercy received; that as living witnesses for God,
you may shine forth in the beauty of holiness in all your ways. And be careful in keeping your meetings
at the time appointed, every one endeavoring to be the first at the meeting, so that not any give way to a
careless spirit, as some have done, and come to meetings when others have been a considerable time
together, and so become a burden to the diligent and obedient servants of the Lord; thus, the meetings
are not so profitable to your comfort, as when you meet diligently at the time, waiting in the fear of the
Lord to feel his sweet presence, which will keep you awake in the life of his own Spirit, to the glory of his
name, and the comfort of one another, which will cause you to prize the opportunities God gives to you,
not knowing how soon you may be deprived of them. And be tender one over another, and watch over
one another with a pure single eye, and every one see the beam cast out of your own eye, before you go
to spy a speck in others; and if any brother or sister offend, you that know, speak to them privately, in all
tenderness, to restore them; and this know, ' whoever turns a sinner from the error of his ways, saves a
soul from death, and hides a multitude of sins.' But if they will not hear, take two or three more, and
speak to them again in the spirit of meekness, waiting, and seeking the Lord for their recovery; but if
they will not hear, but persist in wickedness, then acquaint the church, whom the Lord in his wisdom
will order to deal with them for his own glory.

And in all things you do, I dearly beseech you, do unto others, as you would be done unto yourselves, so
that you may all in your measures, stand as saviors upon mount Zion, to the glory of the Lord, in the
power of his own Spirit, which will cause the whisperer, backbiter, false accuser, and tale-bearer to be
cleansed away, and cast out of the house of the Lord; so that, in the good order of the Holy Spirit of our
God, we may all live; that he alone in his dominion may reign in us, and among us, whose government is
upon his shoulder, and all the crowns of the glory of man cast down at his feet, that he may be exalted in
ordering every member of the body in their place and service, to his everlasting praise and glory.—Even
so, dear Father! carry on your work in all the churches of the saints, scattered over the face of the earth,
that in the eternal unity they may be established in the Lord, (being one, and his name one), and all the
contrary swept away with the breath of your mouth, and brightness of your coming:—so come, Lord
Jesus! take to you your great power, and reign in your authority in and among your dear children, to the
astonishment of the nations, and all people that are not born again, and to the exaltation of your own
name and kingdom over all, who are worthy to reign, blessed forever, and of whose dominion there is no
end!

And all you faithful laborers in the gospel of Christ, who in true innocence travail in his strength, and
seek not anything for yourselves in what you do, but to glorify the Lord in establishing his people in the
living unity in his own Spirit:—Oh! blessed are you among the people; my soul praises the Lord for you,
and blesses his name, that ever he raised up such a spirit in you; that in all the greatest riches of the
Spirit God gives to you, yet you remain truly poor in yourselves, and in deep humility become servants
to his people for the Lord's sake; and being poor, you make many rich in that which will abide fresh and
green in the winter storms, and will not fade away in the terrible blasts which will come for the trial of
his people, and cause all hearts to fail, but what are born of his own nature. Oh! dearly beloved
Brethren, feel my bowels of enlarged love, which flows to you in the love and life received and enjoyed
through death, where there is no variableness nor shadow of change.

I remain your brother, in the word of his patience, to endure the suffering, according to his
determination, with all that love the Lord better than their lives.

William Dewsbury
Warwick [common jail,]
14th of 10th month, 1668

William Dewsbury lived in the 17th Century and was a remarkable new creature of Christ,
speaking and writing with great authority, wisdom, love, hope, and truth. He spent
twenty years in prisons, suffering for his testimony of Truth. This sermon and letter are
only a small sample of his wonderful writings, many more of which are available on this
site. Click to read.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Deficiencies of the Deficit Sects

Text in Light Blue or bold Light Blue can be "clicked" for backup in scripture or detail in writings.

As instructed by the Voice of the Lord, this web site frequently refers to Christendom sects, as the
deficit sects. There are many who can point out errors in Christendom today, but none like this site,
which shows you the way to purity, holiness, union, in the Kingdom of God within, while on earth
and forever. This web page lists the problems. The solution is found in How to Receive the Changing
Power of God, to become free from sin and enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The encouragement and hope
is found throughout the web site, particularly the writings of the twenty plus souls who attained
the purifying baptism of death, and entrance into heavenly Jerusalem while still writing on the earth.

Christendom's error is based on deceptively twisted definitions of three words: grace, the word,
and salvation. (Click on each word to learn its true meaning.) These incorrect definitions, lead people
to presume they are immune to all the Bible's warnings and all the Bible's stated requirements, while
being unaware of heaven's availability while on earth. So today's Christendom, listening to the words of
the scriptures, hears them like a beautiful song that is sweet to their ears, but they fail to apply
the commands to themselves - always thinking the warnings and commands apply to bad people,
not righteous people like themselves; so they do not obey the commands they hear.

Indeed you [God] are to them as a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on
an instrument;
for they hear your words, but they do not do them. Eze 33:32

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. James 1:22

The following is a partial list of the deficiencies of the deficit sects of Christendom today:

1. There is no fear of God, they sin in the sight of God with no fear or shame. There is no fear of God
before their eyes. Rom 3:18

2. There is no obedience to God's commands. -- you are to them as a very lovely song, they hear your words,
but they do them not. Eze 33:32

3. Today's deficit sects, still captive to sin and the power of Satan, believe in a God whose favor is
presumed to be granted due to their heathenish ritual and form of godliness, while continuing to live
in the godless human, sinful nature - continuing to be immoral, impure, greedy; practicing
adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts
of wrath, selfish ambitions, pride, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries,
[partying], lying, deceit, foolishness, etc. - all those things that the Bible tells us we will be banned
from heaven if we continue.
Jesus never said you could be saved if you say the sinners' prayer, or be baptised with water, or eat
bread and drink grape juice; these are just heathenish rituals.(See Sacraments for more.)

The deficit sects have defined a horrible, unjust God, who on the basis of superstitious ritual, sends
their non-believing neighbors to Hell for sinning, while supposedly excusing themselves to live the
exact same life-style of sin, bypassing Hell. Think about it: does this sound fair, just, and equitable -
to eternally punish one person on a technicality, while excusing another who conducts
themselves identically? I assure you, it is not true, nor is it the least bit just; the true God is just.

Here's the problem: the false salvation has to allow for a saved person to continue to sin, otherwise he
has to keep getting saved every time he sins. Once you open the door to one sin is OK, the two are OK,
then ten, then one thousand, then Adolph Hitler is in heaven too, because he was a believer, starting as
a choir boy at age twelve. So heaven is full of evil people? The place full of supposedly saved people,
who were still sinning as they died, is Hell, not heaven.

True salvation is to have sin, even the desire to sin, destroyed in you by the teaching, purifying grace
of God.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [revealed in us] that he might destroy the works [sin in
 us] of the devil. 1 John 3:8

4. When asked if many would be saved, Jesus said few would be saved, for the gate is narrow and the way
is difficult; many would seek to enter and be unable. Mat 7:13-14,Luke 13:23-24. There are an estimated
2 billion so-called Christians in the world today. Does 2 billion people sound like a few to you? Is saying
the sinner's prayer, getting dunked in water, eating bread/drinking grape juice a narrow, a difficult
way that many would try to enter and be unable? No, because the presumed salvation
of Christendom's deficit sects is make-believe, fables, lies, deceptions - it is the wide and broad way
that leads to destruction. The deficit sects of Christendom have totally lost the narrow, true way that few
will find; there is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. Pro 14:12,16:25,21:2.

5. These sects ignore, disregard, and treat with indifference all the commands of Jesus. While relying on
four verses out of thousands to support their imaginary salvation, never bothering to question how
those four verses must be interpreted in conjunction with all of Jesus' wonderful teachings and
commands; they expect Jesus to be their excuse for not obeying the commands that he left his glory
in heaven to come to the earth to teach, and then died a horrible death, to show the extent of the
required obedience that we all must have to ever please God. He will not be their excuse. Jesus said
he will deny all who continue to sin, even those who are firmly believe they are
saved Christians.

6. They tell you that the law is dead and because you believe in Jesus, you don't have to follow any of the law
- that lawlessness is excused by Jesus.
Yet Jesus said: all who practice lawlessness [who sin] with be gathered out of His Kingdom and cast into
the fire,
where there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42.
Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?
But he who merely hears and does not practice doing My words
is like a man who built a house on the ground
without a foundation, ... and the breaking and ruin of that house was great. Luke 6:46-49
(See Obedience is Still Required for more).

7. The sects teach that seeking God is not necessary, because believing is all there is to do.
Yet Jesus tells us that seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness should be our
highest priority,
above food and clothes, and to keep on seeking and you will find.
The Bible gives us many admonitions to seek diligently, early, with our whole heart and soul.
Seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with
all your soul. Deu 4:2
To seek God and find him is the single and entire purpose of life. That is why you are alive.
He [God] has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him,
though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being;
one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in you all. Acts 17:26-28, Eph 4:6
Yet, the ministers of today tell you: don't seek, don't obey, don't fear, don't strive -
they say there is no need, because of grace, your supposed license for immorality and excuse for
remaining in sin.

He tells us to seek his face. Keep seeking until his face appears visible to you in your heart, until his
face appears in ever increasing glory.

8. They pray thy will be done, and then blithely continue do their own wills.
Jesus said, the only people who would enter heaven were those who did the will of the Father.
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Mat 7:21
The Father told us how to do his will, how to go to heaven.
This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him! Luke 9:35
So you must come to Jesus, silently listen, hear him speak to you, and then obey what he
commands you to do.

9. Sin has been minimized, misunderstood, or totally forgotten. They can't discern their
right hand and left hand. Jonah 4:11

10. The concept of repentance has been forgotten. Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise
perish. Luke 13:5
Jesus told the adulteress: I do not condemn you either.
Go on your way and sin no more, least a worse thing come upon you. John 8:11.
The worse thing is to be banned from heaven for still sinning, and sent to Hell, until
you have paid the last penny .
He would not have commanded her to sin no more, unless it were possible. Repentance is the
way.
Jesus warned us several times: Unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3,5
Repentance results in Him changing us by the power of his grace to become - holy, pure,
 and perfect.

Luke 24:47
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among
all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
In the original Greek, the word for remission meant both forgiveness and remission. That
is why many New Testament translations (NIV, and AMP) use the word forgiveness
instead of remission. Remission, (as in, the cancer is in remission - a shrinking, a dying),
is far more accurate, and perfectly describes the purification necessary to avoid
being banned from heaven. The cleansing of the Word, the cleansing in the Light,
both attained by waiting on the Lord, listening, hearing, watching, and obeying -
such cleansing is a remission of sin. But the poor souls, who were trying to translate
the Bible, had not experienced remission of sin within themselves, and so obviously chose
to emphasize forgiveness instead.

The deficit sects kept the forgiveness, are not to sure how to repent, and are ignorant
of repentance's effects - remission.

Christendom claims they don't need to repent because they are already righteous
because they believe.
This is just like the Jews who claimed they were special too, and didn't need to repent.
Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We
have Abraham as our father.’
For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. Luke 3:8

Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13:5. But if you keep on repenting, you
can enjoy purity, holiness, perfection, judgment, being freed from even the desire to
sin, destruction of the residual man of sin within one by the brightness of his coming,
seeing your name written in the Book of Life, joining in union with Christ and the
Father, entering into the Kingdom of Heaven, seeing the Glory of God, themselves
also appearing in glory, fellowshipping with past saints made perfect, and
fellowshipping with the Father and Christ the Father and the Son; and live forever as a
Son of God.

11. The inward cross of self-denial has been forgotten, dismissed, ignored, and treated
with contempt;
yet Jesus told us repeatedly that no one can be his disciple, or is worthy of him,
without carrying their cross and following him.

12. No one is taught how to receive the power of God to change their hearts, removing even
the desire to sin.

13. Grace has been twisted into a pernicious lie, said to be instant salvation; and an excuse for
all their sins: past, present, and forever.

14. Today's ministers, with eyes full of adultery, [love for the world] they never stop
sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! They
have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor,
who loved the wages of wickedness. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth
empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature,
they entice people who are just escaping from those [lustful desires of sinful nature] who
live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—
for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 2 Peter 2:12-19. (And Jesus said, I tell you the
truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34)

I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:

They commit adultery [with love of the world and profit] and walk in lies;
They also strengthen the hands of evildoers, [telling them they are saved]
So that no one turns back from his wickedness. [they remain in sin]
All of them are like Sodom to Me,
And her inhabitants like Gomorrah. Jer 23:14
(Christendom has fallen to the same lies that the Jews repeatedly fell to.)

15. Like the Pharisees, today's ministers shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces; for
they neither enter themselves, nor do they allow those who are about to go in to do so. Mat 23:13

16. Like the Pharisees, today's ministers like to walk about in long robes and love to be
saluted [with honor] in places where people congregate and love the front and best seats
in the synagogues and places of distinction at feasts.

17. Like the Pharisees, today's ministers outwardly seem to people to be just and upright
but inside they are full of pretense and lawlessness and iniquity, and grasping
self-indulgence. They feed themselves while fleecing the sheep; and they are greedy dogs
 which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all
look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. They come to you in
sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (eager to take your money.)

Notice: as society's morals decay, the standards of all the deficit sects decay
proportionally; less than one hundred years ago, the churches did not tolerate
divorce, drunkenness, living together as partners, illegitimate children, etc. Today, our
sects tolerate any degree of sin, sympathizing and consoling the shameful ministers publicly
exposed in some outrageous excess of sin: Haggard, Baker, Swaggert, etc.; plus all
the Roman priests, exposed, but usually not defrocked, for molesting the young boys of
their congregations.

18. The Bible is mistaken for the Word of God, so people read instead of listen to God. and
the Word was God. John 1:1
They think all the commands in the Bible to hear the word of God, mean to listen to
someone read the Bible.
Yet, Paul told us where the word was:
“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith which
we preach. Rom 10:8
You must have faith in the word which is within you, in your heart and mouth;
faith enough to listen, and faith enough to obey the heard commands.
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God, Rom 10:17 (hearing the word
of God within your heart)
So which Jesus do you believe in?
The Jesus in the history book, or the Jesus within you that speaks to you, teaches
you, encourages you, and changes you?
Blessed (happy and to be envied) rather are those who hear the Word of God and obey
and practice it! Luke 11:28

Let me illustrate the problem further. Jesus said: Be perfect, therefore, as your Father
in Heaven is perfect. Mat 5:48
You can't obey this command by hearing someone read the Bible.
But, if you are listening to the Lord's voice, the true Word of God, he will give you a series
of commands, which if you keep and obey, you will eventually become pure and perfect,
by your obedience and his accompanying grace. Your faith in the words you hear, being
from Jesus, is what purifies you.

19. They do not understand that Christ is within them, waiting to teach them. Christ in you,
the hope of Glory. 1 John 2:27

20. They think God is outward, far off in heaven - but He is in us all, in our hearts, chained down,
waiting to grow. Rom 10:8

21. They tell you to study the Bible to grow. Yet the letter kills; only the spirit gives life. Studying
the Bible is like studying the law. It only increases your fleshly knowledge. It only puffs
up your pride. The Bible is not the truth - Jesus, the Word of God, is the truth, the
Father's words are truth; truth and the word of God, heard within, and obeyed is
what sanctifies you. You must receive increasingly more of Jesus' listened to words in
order to grow. You can memorize the entire Bible, and it will do you no good, unless
you spend time, waiting on God, listening for his voice, hearing him, obeying him. The
Bible is good for hope, the Bible is good for understanding what God does not approve
of. But you cannot grow reading the Bible. See My Sheep Hear My Voice for more.
Everyone of the truth hears my voice. John 18:37

22. They don't have a clue as to how to progress spiritually. To make any progress at all,
you must go to him. You must wait on him - listen silently, with the humility of a sinner in
need of his changing power - grace. Seek, listen, obey..seek, listen, obey.....seek,
listen, obey.......
A reader of this site asked his senior minister of 35 years,
what is the meaning of: Be still, and know that I am God, Psalm 46:10?
The minister said, it means, be quiet in church and listen to your preacher. (pathetic)
Unless you get quiet to listen for the Lord's voice within, hear him, and obey him - there is
no spiritual progress or salvation.

But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you,
and you do not need any man to teach you:
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

The Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth. John 16:13

23. Covetousness is encouraged, even preached as the gospel of prosperity. Beware

of covetousness...life is not things. Luk 12:15
24. The operations and necessity of the light have been totally forgotten.

25. Works of faith are not encouraged, and often warned against. Faith without works is
dead. James 2:20,26

26. Tithes are collected and paid, yet tithes were of crops from the land only, (not money), were
only to be collected only by the Levitical priesthood, (which has been annulled by
Jesus' priesthood), and were for the support of widows and orphans - not just the priests
or temple. Tithing died with Jesus assuming the everlasting priesthood.

27. They think salvation is in the Bible. Jesus said: You search the scriptures thinking to
find eternal life, but will not come to me. John 5:39-40

28. By taking a few scriptures and twisting them, the deficit sects have created a false
salvation, with false promises, which shall be annulled. They tell you that you are
saved; which you can only presume without absolute evidence from God to you.

Let's examine how taking one or two scriptures, while ignoring many others, results in
false conclusions:

We trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1
Tim 4:9-10.
Taking this one scripture by itself, there is no need to do anything, ( not even the
heathenish rituals of saying the sinner's prayer, getting wet, or eating bread and
drinking grape juice to be saved.) This is the error of the Universalists. The scripture is
true, but you have to know the rest of the scriptures to interpret it correctly. See Is
There Hope for All to understand this scripture, in context with all the rest of the Bible.

The same is true for taking John 3:16, (anyone who believes shall not perish), and
three others out of context with the rest of the scriptures that include: without holiness,
no one will see the Lord; anyone who is impure, immoral, or greedy will be banned
from heaven; and except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. See the complete
discussion The John 3:16 fallacy.

The only true salvation. (to escape from being banned from heaven), results from the
inward cross of self-denial to purity, brought by the appearance of Jesus in your heart,
who judges you, destroys the residual man of sin within you by the brightness of his
coming, and takes you to the Kingdom of Heaven, where you have fellowship with the
Father and the Son, see your name written in the Book of Life, receive a new name
engraved on a white stone, and see the glory of God - all this is ignored, assumed to
be impossible while alive, discounted, even denigrated.

29. They tell you that you are righteous, because you believe in Jesus, even though you
continue to sin. It is written: He that says to the wicked, 'You are righteous;' him shall the
people curse, nations shall abhor him; particularly those who have sold and assured them
of a false salvation. You will curse those who have fooled you into believing that you will
not be banned from heaven because you sin, because you live in lawlessness.

30. The deficit sects teach that a spiritual experience, (really just a wake-up call), of God
is evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit. When, if one is truly filled with the
Holy Spirit, their thoughts, words, and actions are controlled by the Holy Spirit.

31. The sects tell their followers that they are in Christ, when only those who belong to
Christ Jesus (the Messiah) have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its
passions and appetites and desires. Gal 5:24.

32. Like dishonest salesmen, the deficit sects preach only the headlines of a contract,
while failing to disclose to you all the fine print of the contract - which plainly states
the requirements to be holy, pure, and perfect; and the exclusions of the impure,
immoral, or greedy. There are consumer-protection laws against such dishonest
salesmen, but no laws against the dishonest preachers. God will avenge; but he also
expects you to read the fine print.

33. People are taught that prayer is to tell God what they want, instead of being silent to listen
to God so he can tell us what he wants us to do. Be still and know I am God. Pa 46:10, Be silent all flesh.
Zec 2:13. Listen to and obey My voice, and I will be your God and you will be My people;
and walk in the whole way that I command you. Jer 7:23

34. The prayer of the wicked [those who still sin] is an abomination to the Lord, but the prayer
of the upright is his delight. Pro 15:8 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to
the Lord: but the words of the pure are pleasant words. Pro 15:26

35. Ministers are paid, against Peter's and Jesus' commands: Feed the flock, not for filthy
lucre. 1 Peter 5:2. Freely you have received, freely give. Mat 10:8. Those who ask for money, or
who take a salary, or who tell you to tithe are the false prophets, who come to you in
sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ferocious wolves - greedy, and eager to devour
 your money! Mat 7:15 . Peter and Jude had some very grave things to say about those who solicit
donations or preach for a salary. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain,
have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of
Korah. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
They both say that blackest darkness is reserved for them forever. And the first shall be last,
and the last first.

36. Heathenish ritual, a form [empty shell, dead, dry], and superstitious ceremony
have replaced worship in Spirit and Truth.
A time will come, however, indeed it is already here, when the true (genuine) worshipers will
worship the Father in spirit and in truth (reality); for the Father is seeking just such
people as these as His worshipers.
God is a Spirit (a spiritual Being) and those who worship Him must worship Him in
spirit and in truth (reality). John 4:23-24

37. Ministers speak from a divination of their mind rather than words supplied at the
moment from the Holy Spirit.

38. Ministers steal the words of the saints, instead of speaking words heard directly from God.

39. Ministers speak a flow of lies, based on their position, and the people love it. Your minister
can be a great public speaker receiving the praise of men, but so did the false prophets of
old. Luke 6:26

40. The deficit sects have fulfilled, and continue to fulfill, the below prophecies.

As predicted: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine,
but according to their own desires,
because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Tim 4:3-4

As predicted: People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud,

abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love,
unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form
of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. 2 Tim. 3:2-5

As predicted: This is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law
of the LORD:
Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things,
speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Isaiah 30:9-10
The listen to the law like beautiful music, but do not obey. They are hearers only, no doers.
They assume all of God's laws only apply the bad people, not good people like themselves;
yet, because they still sin: they are slaves to sin, they serve sin, and they are under the
power of Satan.

41. The rest has been totally forgotten and totally misunderstood, and no one enters.

42. The kingdom of God is totally misunderstood, and no one enters.

43. They tell you Jesus is coming again, to the whole world. Yet in Matthew, Mark, and
Luke, Jesus is recorded saying that some then standing with him, 2000 years ago, would
see his glorious coming with the Kingdom before they died. In Matthew, Mark, and
Luke, Jesus is recorded saying all the end times prophesies would be fulfilled before
the generation of 2000 years ago died, (click here to see all).

44. They tell you there is a great tribulation coming soon on the whole world. Yet In
Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Jesus is recorded saying all the end times prophesies,
including the great tribulation, would be fulfilled before the generation of 2000 years ago
died. See all the Tribulation scripture references that prove tribulation is to be
experienced by all of those determined to live a godly life in Christ Jesus.

45. They tell all their followers that they are going to be one-time raptured out of the
world, saved from the supposed one-time great tribulation. Every generation has sat
around waiting for this to happen. Yet, just as the second appearance of Jesus and the
great tribulation, has applied to every generation, so does the rapture - but only to
those individuals in each generation that have purified their hearts through repentance
on the cross of Christ. See the Second Appearance of Jesus for more.

46. The ministers don't have the fruit of the Spirit; instead they have thorns and briers.

47. Ministers, evangelists, teachers, have not been appointed by the Holy Spirit. Christ said, the
pupil is not above the master. Yet these blind ministers, were never pupils of Christ,
were never taught by him - they were only taught by other men. So they have
 placed themselves above the teacher, as unnecessary; they consider themselves to be
above Christ, teaching before they have been authorized, perfected, and restored by
Christ; being blind they can only lead you into the ditch.

48. God's requirements and promises of perfection, holiness, and purity are ignored and
denied as being possible for man on earth.

49. The Bible is their authority, judge, and rule - not the Holy Spirit of God and Christ.

50. Swearing is mistaken to be profanity; while swearing [oaths] is common among Christians.

51. Church buildings are an expression of man's pride and vanity, and were never
commanded by God.

52. Union with Christ and God has been totally ignored, assumed to be impossible, or presumed
to occur from asking.

53. People think they have been born again, while still in their sinful nature; to be born
again and sinning are mutually exclusive. Whoever has been born of God does not sin,
for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does
not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:9-10

54. They incorrectly tell people that they can give their hearts to Jesus, just by saying so.
You only give your heart to Jesus by obeying his each and every command listened to
and heard; then he takes your sin from your heart, inch by inch - in a spiritual battle that
he wins - if you persevere in repentance and obedience to the end. First he has to break
your heart, then circumcise it.

55. They tell people by just inviting Jesus into their hearts, he becomes their Lord and
Savior. Yet Jesus was already there, in the hearts of all men and women who come into
the world. He is chained down, waiting patiently for you to seek, listen, obey.....seek,
listen, obey- so he can grow in you and take full possession of your heart, to rule and
guide your words and actions; and until he controls all of your words and actions, you
are still a servant of sin under the power of Satan, not the Lord.

56. People are promised heaven after death, just by believing that Jesus is the Son of God;
yet even the demons believe and tremble.

57. People interpret a spiritual experience (God's wake up call) to be born again, baptised by
the Spirit, or worse: a call to preach.

58. So-called Christians, with evil still in their hearts, are told by their sects to witness to others.

59. Without obeying his commands, so-called Christians think:

They know Jesus: We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
John 14:23
They love Jesus: If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. 1 John 2:3
They are a friend of Jesus: You are my friends if you do what I command. John 15:14
They have been born again while still sinning: Whoever has been born of God does not sin.
1 John 3:9

60. They have a form [empty shell] of godliness, without Power. Paul said, turn away from
such people. 2 Tim 3:5

61. They are assemblies of hypocrites - talking about religion, but walking in sin.

62. Each sect has a different concept of what God requires, what Jesus insists on, what
his message was. Each different concept of what God requires, and what Jesus requires, is
actually defining a different God. These different definitions of God and Jesus are based on
their collective opinion as to which scriptures are important, and which scriptures need
to be ignored - or even their opinion of what a scripture means. They each worship
a different Jesus. They each proclaim a different gospel. They are cursed.

63. So each sect prays, not to God, but to the collective spirit of their group, which has been
imagined God and his requirements according to their collective opinion of God.

64. These sects are all derived from the Roman Catholic sect, preserving the vast majority of
that sect's heathenish traditions, beliefs, and ceremonies.

65. The so-called 30,000 Christian sects are Babylon - painted to imitate and appear like Zion;

If you can see these deficiencies, it is not too late to experience hearing and seeing your savior. This
web site's purpose is to show how to become free from sin by benefiting from the changing power of
God through the cross, which leads to union with God in his Kingdom. But you cannot stay in Babylon
and reach Zion; for what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has
light with darkness?

Come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will
not receive any of her plagues. Rev 18:4-7
Yes, all the deficit sects of today comprise Revelation's Whore of Babylon, of which all
the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, because all the sects
are simply evolutional varieties of the Roman Empire's church, both east and west,
whose doctrines were dictated by the sainted Emperors Constantine and Justinian
the despot, thus eliminating the true gospel by 390 AD. As prophesied in Revelations,
the church adulterated with the Kings of the earth. This deficit is hardly surprising,
when you consider that Christ's disciples and apostles (John, Peter, Paul, and Jude) wrote
of false teachers and preachers in their time, 2000 years ago.

He [the beast] was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people (the saints) and
to overcome them. And power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe
and people and tongue and nation. The beast of the Book of Revelation is the beast
of heathen religious authority, which power was severely curtailed [a wound to the head]
by early Christianity, particularly in the Mediterranean region. But a second beast
shortly arose that had horns like a lamb, but was a beast. Note, this beast appears to
be Christian-like, and under pretence of the Lamb's authority, (though acted by the
dragon's power, derived from the first beast of heathen religion) compels men to
comply with such traditions, ceremonies, and rituals, (for Christian duties), as resemble
the customs of the heathen, in their idolatrous worship and superstition. The whole
earth followed this beast, and still does. Thus, the false church arose, and no one
could spiritually buy or sell, (like the foolish virgins for oil in their lamps), unless
they complied with the beast and had received the false church's mark. Any who denied
this false church, or who tried to buy or sell (spiritual works by mind or hand) without
the sanction of the false church were martyred, as their predecessors had done before,
under the heathen power, or first beast. And while this false church is often identified by
the Protestants as the Roman church, the Protestants are all derivatives of the same
false whore, (the beast has many names), salvation based on saying certain words,
water, bread and wine - all heathenish, superstitious rituals - instead of a complete change
of heart - circumcised to be a new heart and mind.

Anyone, who tried to increase their measure of Christ by any way that differed from
the doctrine of the false church (to buy or sell spiritual oil differently for their lamps),
was not only stopped; they were killed - which really made them unable to buy or sell.

Many Roman Catholic persecutions were justified by Saint(?) Augustine's famous:

Why ... should not the Church use force in compelling her lost sons to return, if the lost
sons compelled others to their destruction?" - A classic example of the end justifies
the means, which looses sight of the principal command of Christ to "love enemies,"
not destroy them. Another supposed saint(?), Thomas Aquinas wrote: On the part of
the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the
wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and
second admonition," as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church
no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by
excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers
him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby from the world by death.
These revered saints(?) ignore Christ's reply to his disciples when they wished to punish
the people who would not listen to him, severely rebuking them with: Ye know not
what manner of spirit ye are of. If someone is violating the standards of the
church, (sinning), they are supposed to be warned by one, then warned by two or three,
then censured by the whole body of believers, - and if they fail to repent of their error,
they are supposed to be expelled and shunned - not killed, or imprisoned, or tortured, or
to lose their property.

Protestants killed heretics too. John Calvin, was a principal founder of

Protestantism, having great influence on the Presbyterians, Congregationalists,
Baptists, and even Lutherans. Calvin had Servetus arrested and wrote charges of
heresy against him; Servetus denied the scriptural support of the trinity and infant
baptism. Calvin's charges and arrest of him resulted in Servetus being burned at the
stake. Calvin, with many other Protestant authorities, further participated in the burning
of twenty-three others with differing religious views. Calvin wrote: Whoever shall
maintain that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes
himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty as they are. There is no question here
of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law he will have kept in
the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so
extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so long as we set not
his service above every human consideration, so that we spare not kin, nor blood of
any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory. The apologists
of Calvin spilling blood and forgetting all humanity point out that many other
Protestants killed heretics too - (the everybody-did-it defense).

Jesus said: .. whoever kills you will think and claim that he has offered service to God.
John 16:2

And the whore was drunk on the blood of the saints - the Roman church's inquisitions
and slaughters throughout Europe, in which during the Middle Ages (800 AD to 1500
AD) nine million souls were put to death, accused of witchcraft. This was followed by
the Protestants of England and America who in 50 years were responsible for the deaths
of over 869 Quakers in the 17th Century. The persecutors of the Quakers
included Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and Baptists. She boasts she
is not a widow and will never see grief. She boasts that Christ is her husband; but she,
the whore, only claims his name but ignores his command commands to repent,
his teachings, his requirements, his warnings, his required holiness, his gospel,
his Kingdom, his promised freedom from sin, and his inward cross of self-denial -
the Missing Cross to Purity.

If you want to read more about how today's sects are the whore and the beast of
Babylon, Isaac Penington has very thorough explanations on this site: 1. Babylon the
Great, and 2. The Great Apostasy; also available is Janney's History of the Church
and Francis Howgill's expose of the deterioration in Christianity.

The pastors and shepherds of these false sects profess that they know God;
but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient,
and unto every good work reprobate. Titus 1:16

Thus says the Lord God: I am against the shepherds,

Behold, I, I Myself, will search for My sheep and will seek them out. Eze 34

Be you separate, said the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
and will be a father unto you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, said the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor. 6:17

Otherwise, you may be among those, who thought they were Christians,
and on judgment day, to whom Christ said:
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Mat 7:22-23

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

Jesus replied,"I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.

The acts of the sinful nature include sexual immorality, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, [greed],
sorcery, hatred,
contentions, jealousies, rage, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders,
drunkenness, revelries, etc.
...those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19-21
Those who practice immorality, hatred, lying, envy, covetousness ..will be banned
from heaven.

You can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person..has any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God.
Anyone who is not pure, immoral, or greedy will be banned from heaven.
Let no one deceive you with empty words,
for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Eph 5:5-6

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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The Will of the Father

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’
shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but [only] he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:21

Jesus never said you could be saved if you say the sinners' prayer, or be baptised with water, or eat
bread and drink grape juice; this is just heathenish ritual, the wide and broad way that leads to
destruction. The deficit sects of Christendom have totally lost the narrow, true way that few will find;
there is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12,16:25,21:2.

Jesus clearly tells us the only way: only he who does the will of the Father shall enter the Kingdom
of Heaven. Mat 7:21. (See Lawlessness for his complete teaching of this.)

Every time we repeat the Lord's Prayer, praying to the Father, "thy will be done, in earth as it is in
heaven," we ignorantly proceed to do our own wills, hoping we are somehow pleasing to the Father.
But what does doing someone else's will really mean?

Think about the concept of an owner and his slave. The slave doesn't decide what he is going to do; the
slave follows orders. I understand how this concept is repulsive to most people, but it illustrates what
is doing someone else's will, not your own will. In Jesus' teachings, there are hundreds of Master/Servant
or Lord/Servant (Owner/Slave) references in the Bible. Click to see just the ones that Jesus referenced.

To do the Father's will is to stop making decisions for yourself, your will; and only do what the Father
tells you to do, his will. This is exactly what Jesus told us that he did, and he only did; many, many times:

I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true;
and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. John 8:26

the Father, who sent me, gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
And I know that His command is everlasting life.
Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak. John 12:49-50

the Son is able to do nothing of Himself (of His own accord);

but He [the son] is able to do only what He sees the Father doing,
for whatever the Father does is what the Son does in the same way. John 5:19

I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is righteous,

because I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

The world must learn that I love the Father

and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me. John 14:31

He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own;
they belong to the Father who sent me. John 14:24
Even when he would have preferred another way, He did the Father's will, even to dying on the cross:
And He said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible for You. Take this cup away from Me; nevertheless,
not what I will, but what You will.” Mark 14:36. Notice, his will was that he would not be
beaten, scourged, and crucified on the cross. But he said, not what I will, but what you will.

Some would say, well that was Jesus, but we can't be expected to do what he did. Yet, Jesus said the
same applies to you and me: whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister
and mother. Mat 12:50

So, to do the will of the Father, which is necessary to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, we must do exactly
like Jesus: we must only say what the Father tells us to say, we must do only what we see the Father do,
we must judge only as we hear from the Father.

Until we have arrived at this very advanced state, the Father told us what we must do:

Then there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,

"This is My Son, My Chosen One or My Beloved; listen to and yield to and obey Him!” Luk 9:35
So you must come to Jesus, silently listen, hear him speak to you, and then obey what he commands you
to do.

But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you,
and you do not need any man to teach you:
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie,
and even as it has taught you,
you shall abide in him. 1 John 2:27

If we diligently and humbly, go to him, listen to him, and obey him, Jesus will change us
so that he truly is our Lord, with the Father through him telling us what to say and do.
This requires a radical, total change in us; (but remember, it is necessary to enter
the Kingdom.) To do the will of the Father is impossible with our own mind, because
the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed
can be. Rom 8:7.

Our carnal mind is part of our sinful nature, the nature of death: For to be carnally minded
is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Rom 8:6

Lets go back to the beginning, to see how our mind, which is death and an enemy of God,
got so messed up:

Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it.
And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may
freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the
day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Gen 2:15-17

Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God
had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every
tree of the garden’?”
And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but
of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat
it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’”
Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the
day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to
her husband with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they
knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made
themselves coverings. Gen 3:1-7

Before his fall, Adam did not have to work for his food. It was provided by God. But now
he must toil for food.
Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which
I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“ Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field. I
In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground, Gen 3:17-19

So Adam and Eve decided they wanted to be wise like God, deciding what was good and
evil for themselves. Now, up to this time, they only did as God told them. They heard
the sound of his walking in the garden, they heard his voice. They did not decide what
was "good" or "desirable" for themselves - they trusted God to make the decisions.
But suddenly they could decide for themselves what they wanted, and what they didn't
want. They immediately decided they were naked: I was afraid because I was naked; and
I hid myself. Gen 3:10. See, they were beginning to think for themselves, looking out
for Number One, who was no longer God. They were afraid too. They began to worry,
to doubt, to fear. Supposedly they were to become wise like God, able to decide what to do
for themselves; but this was a great loss. For the serpent became their God instead; the
spirit of Satan usurped the Spirit of God in Adam and Eve. The spirit of Satan, which wants
to make his own decisions, wants to be wise, wants to be God.

And so man, in hopes of becoming like God, only became like Satan - a rebel, an enemy
of God, a slave to sin, a slave to the power of Satan; and now man must work hard for
his food.

Do you not know.. you are that one's slaves whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death,
or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Rom 6:16

When we speak, it is either by the Spirit of Christ within us, or the spirit of Satan. Christ
told us : let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is
from the evil one. Mat 5:37. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak,
they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Mat. 12:36. Until we are purified, it is
the spirit of the serpent, the evil one, speaking in us. The spirit that speaks through you
is either Christ or the devil. [There is no in-between spirit that is 99% un-devilish; that is
like being 99% un-pregnant]. Therefore, until we have Christ in control of our mouths,
after purification and restoration, we should speak as little as possible.

Adam and Eve, falling to the serpent's rule, is why the carnal mind is enmity against God;
for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. Rom 8:7. As long as we are
thinking our own thoughts, with our carnal mind, we are incapable of being pleasing to
God, we are controlled by the sinful nature within us. We are selfish, vain, pleasure-
seeking, fearful, angry, creatures. We are full of lusts and pride. Our decisions are
faulty; often wrong, and almost always self-serving.

For the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Gen 8:21

Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the hearts. Pro 21:2

"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and
My thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man [forsake] his thoughts; Isa 55:7

The thoughts of the wicked are shamefully vile and exceedingly offensive to the Lord, but
the words of the pure are pleasing words to Him. Pro 15:26. Can you see how we are not
fit company to God, until we are purified? He hears all of our evil thoughts, and they
grieve him.

For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Rom 8:6
or NIV -The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life
and peace. Rom 8:6
So that is the task, to obtain a mind controlled by the Spirit; so we can have true life
(Jesus) and peace.

Jesus said, .. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts,
covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
All these evil things come from within and defile a man. Mark 7:21-23
We must become clean, clean by the Word of God, Jesus.

Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. Rom 8:8

For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Rom 8:13

From George Fox's Letter 24:

That mind, which speaks of God, but lives not, dwells not, nor abides in the fear of God,
that mind must suffer, and pass under the judgment of God, for the curse of God is upon
that mind; for that mind is earthly, and of the earth, upon which the curse of God is. And
 that mind may talk of God, and speak of God, but not in union with God, nor from
enjoyment of God in the spirit, nor from having purchased the knowledge of him
through death and sufferings [of self]; but from hearsay of him, and from custom
and tradition. But the true fear of God does destroy that mind, which speaks of him, but
does not live in his fear; and that mind is raised up, which does abide in his fear. This
is acceptable sacrifice, which is pure, clean, holy, and without spot. Then that which
knows God, speaks of him, which has purchased the true knowledge of him
through suffering; and to such there is no condemnation, but joy and peace. And this
mind sings true praises to God, the other in hypocrisy; and therefore the woe is unto it.
And this mind is stayed upon God, the other is gadding after the creatures,
committing fornication with other lovers; and speaks of God, but is not subject to God,
and must pass through condemnation.

So how do put to death this sinful nature, this carnal mind, so we can live and do the will
of the Father and enter the Kingdom of Heaven? So that we lead every thought and
purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One), 2 Cor
10:5? So that we have the mind of Christ (the Messiah) and do hold the thoughts (feelings
and purposes) of His heart, 1 Cor 2:16? So we can put off, concerning your former conduct,
the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in
the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according
to God, in true righteousness and holiness, Eph 4:22-24?

The sinful nature, the carnal mind must be destroyed by God's grace, through the
inward cross of self-denial; Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh
(the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires. Gal 5:24. The
Holy Spirit shows us how captive we are to our lusts, pleasures, habits, anger, pride, and
self-gratification - and how this self-centered behavior is at the expense of others around
us. The word and light show us the defects in our heart, one at a time, exposing and
sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart. With
our regret and sorrow for conditions exposed by the Holy Spirit, we receive help from
the Holy Spirit to change. This conviction and condemnation of our beastly nature is
the Ministry of Condemnation; our carnal mind must be condemned and destroyed by
God. When we have been sufficiently purged or purified of our selfish, sinful nature, then
we receive the Ministry of Life or additional spirit from Christ; until finally we are
restored to the image, direction, and presence of God.

So first learn the ministry of condemnation in yourselves,

that life may arise, before the ministry in the spirit is known,
which preaches peace by Jesus Christ, where there is no strife.
Therefore wait to know the time of silence and mind that which condemns
you.
From George Fox's Letter 145.

From George Fox's Letter 58: The teachers without exalt the carnal mind, but the
teacher within destroys it.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God,
nor indeed can be. Rom 8:7

When the carnal mind is destroyed, man's thoughts and labors cease; he enters into the
rest of God, with God supplying the power and energy, direction, promptings,
and knowledge. Man no longer works for his food. The restored man's works are
powered and prompted by the Spirit of God:

This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet
they would not hear. Isa 28:12
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you
should seem to come short of it. Heb 4:1
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you
will find rest for your souls. Mat 11:29
For he For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God
did from His. Heb 4:10

George Fox described the Sabbath rest of the Christian, being a rest into Christ Jesus,
saying: "Think not your own thoughts, for in Christ we are atop that nature where
evil thoughts are, that nature [having been] taken away by Christ. So you should not
think your own thoughts, do your own works, [or] speak your own words."

Jesus said: Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? Mat 6:27.
Until Jesus Christ controls our words, actions, and thoughts, he is not our Lord - we can
call him Lord, but that doesn't mean he rules us as our Lord, or that we obey him as
his servant. Remember Jesus said: Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is
a slave of sin, John 8:34. If we are a slave to sin, he can't be our Lord and Master because a
man cannot serve two masters; he must hate one, to serve the other.

From George Fox's Letter 245

And as your ears are attentive to the Lord's voice, that speaks from heaven,
iniquity's mouth is stopped in you, the throne of iniquity is thrown down in you;
that is, the wicked spirit and power, where iniquity sits;
and the chambers of imagery are thrown down in you,
where all thoughts and imaginations are.

Your carnal mind is destroyed by the power of God, released through the hope that
purifies and the faith that obeys the commands heard, which is a cross to your will. There
are three manifestations of the power of God which are necessary for change:

1. the name of Jesus, (you have to at least believe in his name, Jesus Christ, as the son of God).
2. the true gospel - the good news that one believes, seizes as their hope, and exercises in
faith to attain, and
3. the cross of Christ - the inward cross of self-denial

The the true gospel, the power of God to salvation, being that you have the opportunity
by faith in Jesus Christ to be freed from even the inclination to sin, resulting in your
purity and entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth, and then forever.

As Jesus told Paul: I am sending you to open their eyes

that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God,
so that they may thus receive forgiveness and release from their sins
and a place and portion among those who are consecrated and purified by faith in Me. Acts
26:17-18

The cross of Christ, the inward cross of self-denial is the means to become free from
sin, even the desire to sin. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful
nature with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24. Christ died on the cross to show us by
example the extent of obedience required; for as he died on the cross in loving obedience
to God, so we also must obey the promptings and commands of God, to crucify our
sinful nature on the cross of self-denial. This is why he said:

The world must learn that I love the Father

and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
John 14:31

One of the primary reasons Jesus died on the cross, was the example to us of how to die
to self, and the extent of obedience required.

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps. 1 Pet 2:21

For we know that our old self was crucified

with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves to sin—Rom 6:6

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. 2 Tim 2:11

For whoever desires to save his life will lose it,

but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. Mat 16:25

When your mind and sinful nature have been crucified on the inward cross of self-
denial, then you receive the mind of Christ.
For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have
the mind of Christ. 1 Cor 2:16. Our carnal mind is destroyed to the point that we speak and
act from the promptings of the Spirit of God; this is the end of obedience - to think,
speak, and act according to God's promptings.

Does this mean that you become a clone, losing all your personality? No, to the contrary,
you will reflect one of the many-sided wisdom of God in all its infinite variety
and innumerable aspects [so it] might now be made known to the angelic rulers
and authorities (principalities and powers) in the heavenly sphere. Compare the writings
of the many early Quakers on this site; while they all write the same basic message,
their words and expressions are unique to their life's experiences and to their personality.
After crucifying the sinful nature, you are then restored into the image of God, from
which Adam and Eve fell. The seed of the woman, bruises the head of the serpent, and
the serpent bruises the heel of the woman's seed.

And I will put enmity between you [serpent] and the woman, and between your seed and
her Seed;
He [ a later seed of the woman] shall bruise your head, [ a later generation of the
serpent's seed].
And you [serpent] shall bruise His [woman's seed] heel.” Gen 3:15

The seed of the woman is the Spirit of Jesus Christ, born of a woman, the seed of Eve.

The seed of the serpent is the selfish spirit in you, the sinful nature, the carnal mind.

The woman's seed Christ, was severely bruised by the Pharisees.

The head of the serpent in you is crushed by Christ, thus to break his power and
strength, and to destroy him and his works.

And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly. Rom 6:16

From George Fox's Letter #172:

So everyone of us, that has come to the seed of God, that bruises the serpent's head, that
led man from God, who is the prince of the world, the prince of darkness, and the prince
of the air, the father of lies, a murderer from the beginning; the corrupter of mankind,
the author of the separation from God, and the original of sin, the beginning of it, which
led man from his dominion over the handiworks of God; which the royal seed
Christ, destroys, and renews man again in the image of God, and brings him again to
his dominion over the handiworks of God. And this hundreds of thousands are
now witnessing; by which they come to be kings, and redeemed from the earth and come
to be made kings upon the earth, in the image of God, over the handiworks of God, in
the wisdom by which they were created....Among these Christ is king, which
thousands witness. Among these he is king.

After your sinful nature has been crucified, Jesus appears [is revealed] in glory and
power within you, to destroy the seed of the serpent. For this purpose the Son of God
was manifested [revealed in us], that he might destroy the works [sin] of the devil. 1 John
3:8. You become an entirely new creature; your soul is joined (married) with the Spirit
of Christ to become one, [union] an entirely new creature. Before Christ is revealed, the
man of sin, (the Spirit of Satan in you), is revealed within you, showing you all manner of
evil on the earth; this is the abomination of desolation, standing in the your heart's
temple, where it should not. But this is the end of your fleshly self, as Christ then
appears and slays the residual spirit of Satan within you by the brightness of his coming,
by his breath, and the splendor of his coming, by his crushing the head of Satan under
his heel. The final judgment. The true baptism of the Holy Spirit: into the death of
Christ. The sharing of his death. The sharing of his resurrection.

Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death,

that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life. Rom 6:4

In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands,
by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
buried with Him in baptism,
in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God,
who raised Him from the dead. Col 2:11-12

Jesus described how it would be for Peter, at the sinful nature's death, to be led by the
Spirit of God.
When you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted;
but when you are old you will stretch out your hands,
and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go. John 21:18

This is the return of Christ to you bringing his Kingdom and salvation. This is to see
your savior, to see God. This results in Jesus resurrected in you, and having His
glorious Kingdom established in your heart. The world as you see it ends. It is gone. You
will not see it again. You step into another dimension, and walk by the Light of God, not
the sun or the moon.
 And the world passes away and disappears, and with it the forbidden cravings
(the passionate desires, the lust) of it;
but he who does the will of God and carries out His purposes in his life abides
(remains) forever. 1 John 2:17

That he would grant unto us,

that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74-5

This is all very wonderful, but how do you get there? You must seek the LORD your God,
and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul. Deu 4:29

Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. James 4:8

Notice James says draw near to God. God is not found in sect meetings. God is not found
in reading scriptures. You must go to him. You must wait on him - listen silently, with
the humility of a sinner in need of his changing power - grace.

Seek, listen, obey.......seek, listen, obey.....seek, listen, obey..... If you do this repeatedly
and diligently, you will witness all of God's promises to be true; you will enter the
Kingdom of Heaven, now on earth, and forever. You are not only restored to image of
God, as were originally Adam and Eve, but you are elevated beyond their state,
beyond temptation, to sit down at rest in Christ Jesus. Christ is resurrected in you. You
will enter the rest, to cease from your own labors, to walk in the spirit, under the power
and promptings of the Father, through Christ, with whom you have joined in union; the
pure church, sanctified, washed by the water of the word, at the wedding supper:

And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!”
And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:17

Now you are able to perform a worship of the Father, which he desires:

The true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth;
for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:23-24

Perhaps you are now beginning to see how the false gospels, which dismiss the cross as
a necessity, have become so pervasive. Such gospels , by appealing to the lustful desires
of sinful human nature, entice people who are just escaping from those [lustful desires
of sinful nature] who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves
are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 2 Peter 2:12-19.
The true salvation is by the cross, which is bearable, but not easy. It is not easy to lose
your life. It is not easy to forsake everything, even your thoughts. It is not easy to suffer.
So any alternative to the cross, which supposedly allows one to escape Hell, is
eagerly received with false doctrines and lies that quickly became pervasive. (For
further details of suffering on the cross, see Suffering and Tribulation.)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own
lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn
away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it
this way. But what will you do in the end? Jer 5:31

For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as
enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach,
and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. Phil 3:18-19

But the cross is bearable. As Jesus told us: even prostitutes and tax collectors were
entering the Kingdom in his time. As Isaiah tells us: the simple ones and fools, shall not
err in it and lose their way. Isa 35:8

But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your
fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. Rom 6:22. You have been freed from worry,
fear, and anxiety in trying to make the best decision, to say the right words, to do the
right thing; never being sure, and frequently being wrong. What you lose is the freedom
to lie, cheat, rage, take advantage of others, using them for your pleasure, power, or
wealth; and you lose your slavery to possessions and pleasures. What you gain is to
have God's direction in all, with confidence that he knows all, and whatever his will is
for you, is inherently perfect, without flaw - and always to your ultimate benefit. So you
are free from having to analyze and choose - free to live in love, free to follow virtue;
free from the law; confident, and assured your life is one of noble purpose and results.
You are in the rest, thoughts and words prompted by the Spirit, and actions powered by
the Spirit. Being filled with God's love, you are then free to show that love to the world;
and to show your love for God, in your continued choice to obey his commands
and promptings, which will be your greatest joy. And free to have fellowship with Christ
and the Father, in the light - full of joy, with eternal peace, basking in the radiance of
their presence, filled with and experiencing their constant love.

An excerpt from Stephen Crisp's outstanding writings:

Those that are willing to sit down in quietness, in the light of Christ Jesus, that shows
every running-out of the mind, they come to feel the pure fear of God to be planted in
their hearts; so that they dare not think their own thoughts, nor speak their own words.

Here many have turned aside; the cross of Christ has seemed to them so sharp, and
hard, and intolerable, that they could not bear it; they would not be at the charge of such
a religion. What! Must I part with all my delights, and my beloved lusts and pleasures, and
all my interests in the world, for Christ? I cannot part with these; these things lie in my way,
I must rather lose my soul than part with what is so pleasing to me, and join with the light
of my own conscience, and the truth in my inward parts? What! Must I not have so much
as liberty of thought? What! Must my thoughts be regulated by what is so cross
and repugnant to my mind? Must I throw out all evil thoughts out of my heart, and
allow none but the good thoughts to remain there? Who can stand this? Who can bear
such strictness as this? Rather than endure this, I will choose to lose my soul. Many have
lost the truth on this account; and many are in danger to lose their souls.

If there is in you any desire of peace with God, so that you may not go from here before
you have attained it, take hold of the present opportunity. Hardness of heart is a
desperate plague; it comes from a long obstinate continuance in sin. When we
have withstood the day of God's patience and long-suffering, and grieved the Holy Spirit
of God; then God gives us up to our own hearts' lusts, because we choose to follow the
voice of the charmer, however wise he appears. When we stop our ears, and will not
attend to the calls of God; when men will go on, and nothing can stop them, in the career
of their lusts and pleasures, but they will retain their carnal delight and friendship with
the world; this hardness of heart becomes a desperate plague. Take heed of it, that it does
not overtake you, and bring ruin and destruction upon you. Consider the patience and
long-suffering of God, and let his goodness lead you to repentance. Consider, God has
waited to be gracious to you, he has exercised much long-suffering and patience
towards you; whereas He might have cut you off long ago, and given you your portion
with the damned in hell; but He has hearkened to the voice of the mediator who has
pleaded for you. He has extended his patience and long-suffering to the wicked
and rebellious also; and for this reason, the apostle tells us, Christ is the savior of all
men, especially of them that believe.

An except from Ambrose Rigge's excellent writings:

ALL men by nature are the children of wrath, as it is written, Eph 2:3, fallen from God
and his power, degenerate plants of a strange vine, Jer 2:21, daily bringing forth evil fruit,
in which God has no delight; his heart is corrupted, his mind is corrupted, and every
part and member of his body, from the crown of the head to the sole of his foot, full
of wounds and bruises, and putrefying sores, Isa 1:6; every imagination of his heart is
only evil continually, Gen 8:21. So that he is a vessel altogether unfit for the Lord's use
or service, neither has the Lord any delight in him in that state, because he is a slave
to Satan, led captive at his will, to dishonor his maker in all his words and works: so that
all his undertakings and outgoings are to promote Satan's kingdom. He calls evil good,
and good evil, puts light for darkness, and darkness for light, and is void of
understanding, as the beast that perishes. He is altogether insensible of his creator, and
of his way, truth, and life, because they are spiritually discerned; being wholly a stranger
to the life of God, and to the covenant of promise, and without God in the world, in its
ways and works of darkness; drawing iniquity with cords of vanity, and drinking it in, as
the ox drinks water, until he fills himself, and vomits it up again.

In this condition, man's wisdom is earthly, carnal, sensual, and devilish; yet by this he
would try to grasp the heavenly mystery of eternity, and dive into the secrets of the
Almighty, and set up a way of worship of God in his own selfish will, and establish
a righteousness of his own, and will pray, read, sing and perform many duties in a hot
zeal, though without understanding the knowledge of God his creator. In this state were
the Jews, who killed and persecuted the Lord of life in their darkness and unbelief, in
a righteousness of their own, which was as filthy rags, and would not cover them from
the wrath of the Almighty, a just reward of all their ungodly deeds, unto whom Christ
put forth many parables, and said, Except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom
of God, John 3:3. And, except you are converted, and become as little children, you shall
in no wise enter the kingdom of God, Luke 18:17, though they were painted white all over
as white washed walls, yet they were foul and corrupted, blind and naked; therefore the
woe was often pronounced against them; for all their zeal and profession of Christ and
the apostles' words.

Therefore this is my counsel and advice unto you, who are in the unconverted
state, alienated from God, and estranged in your mind from his covenant of life, who has
any desires in you to return unto the Lord who made you, that he may save you from the
heat of his wrath forever: cease from your own words, works and ways, and be not hasty
to run, before your maker leads you by the hand, in the light of his Truth, with which
Christ has lighted you, John 1:9, which shines in your dark heart, 2 Cor 4:6, so shall you
not abide in darkness, but shall receive the light of life, John 8:12. Listen to his voice;
he, who stands at your door and knocks, and who would have you receive him into
your heart, which is his throne, upon which he must sit as King, if he ever receives you
into protection with him. There he must work the Father's will in you, which is to purify
you throughout in body, soul and spirit, without which you can never be a vessel of honor
to God to set forth his praise and glory in the earth. He must work His righteousness in
you by his right hand, which must cover you forever; and you must be crucified upon
his cross from all your own righteousness and unrighteousness, all which spring from
the seed of enmity, in which God has no delight, before you know the peace of God,
which passes all understanding, to keep your heart and mind. All this you will find true
in the day of your visitation, however the false prophets may persuade you to the
contrary; that will deceive you in the day of the Lord's fierce indignation, when
everyone shall receive a reward according to his deeds. This is a hard saying to you who
are still alive in the fullness of delight and pleasure of the flesh, to tell you of dying to
your own righteousness and unrighteousness, before you come to live to God. This is a
bitter cup to you, of which you must be willing to drink, before you taste of the cup
of blessing, which is the communion of the blood of Christ, 1 Cor 10:16. You must suffer
with him who died upon the cross, before you know the virtue of his resurrection; you
must put off the old man, with his deeds, before you put on the new man, Eph 4:22-24.
You must purge out the old leaven of uncleanness, and the old bottle must be broken,
before you keep a feast of unleavened bread, 1 Cor 5:7-8, as a passover unto the Lord.

This is the footsteps of the flock, in which you must walk before Christ's righteousness is you. You must
buy the Truth with the loss of all that is contrary to it, if ever you truly purchase it, so as to be yours
forever. This is the word of the Lord God to you, which must be fulfilled in or upon you. Let no
man deceive you, through vain words of those who tell you, God looks upon you not as
you are in sin, but as you are in Christ. Oh poor deluded wretch! this is the deceivableness
of unrighteousness indeed, which would make God as unrighteous as themselves, to look upon man
in Christ when he is not; but in sin and transgression. Give not heed to such lying vanities, for fear that
you forsake your own mercies forever. For because of these things has come the wrath of God upon
the children of disobedience, Eph 5:6, Col 3:6. He that said to the wicked, you are righteous, shall
the nations curse, and people abhor, Pro 24:24. I say, God looks upon you as you are; and he will not
justify you in sin, nor hold you guiltless in transgression, but will wound the head of his enemies, and
the hairy scalp of such a one as goes on still in his trespasses, Psa 68:21. Therefore return, return unto
the Lord by speedy repentance, and kiss the Son for fear that he is angry, and you perish from the way
of life; when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that trust in him, Psa 2:12.

This I was warned by the Lord to lay before all who are yet in Babylon and Egypt, that
they may flee out and escape from her sins, for fear that they partake of her plagues, as it
is written, Rev 18:4, for the hour of her judgment has come, and the execution will
speedily follow, which will leave the wicked neither root nor branch.

Therefore let your laughter be turned into mourning, and your joy into heaviness, for
God has clothed himself with a garment of vengeance, and with zeal, as with a cloak,
Isa 59:17; and no unclean thing shall now stand before him. Howl you oaks of Bashan,
and you cedars of Lebanon, the Lord has laid his axe to your roots, and your strength
and tallness must come down. Your fruit has been the fruit of Sodom, and your grapes
the grapes of Gomorrah; you have long cumbered the ground, even until it is weary with
you, and is ready to vomit you up; therefore bow yourselves unto the mighty God of
Jacob, before he cuts you down, and casts you into the fire of his jealousy forever. Tremble
at the presence of him, whose word is gone forth. He is the God of the whole earth,
and before him all nations are as the drop of a bucket, Isa 40:15, who has measured
the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out the heavens with a span,
and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in
scales, and the hills in a balance, Isa 40:12. He will render to every man according to the
 fruit of his doings; therefore while you have a little time, prize it, for fear that the day of
your visitation passes away, and the day of wrath comes upon you as a thief in the night,
1 Thes 5:2.

Those who follow their own brain will weep and mourn; there will be great pain. Voice of the
Lord 3/04/08

If those who hear will obey, their progress will be swift. Voice of the Lord 3/4/8

His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness,
through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises,
that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 2 Peter 1:4

This is the way, walk ye in it. Isaiah 30:21

You will show me the path of life;

In Your presence is fullness of joy;
At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore. Psa 16:11

He is the Rewarder of those Who Diligently Seek Him! Heb.11:6

I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support.
Not, not, not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let down (relax My hold
on you)! Heb 13:5

For more details on how to receive the changing grace of God, including the
necessary suffering of the cross, see How to Benefit.

The will of the Father is to have sons, sons that love him, sons that are tried, tested,
faithful, pure and holy; sons that he can love, sons that he can shower his gifts and
treasures upon, sons that he can share his very self with, sons that do his will on earth as it
is in heaven - and then forever.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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Six of Jesus' Promises to Some Then:

that All Prophecies be Fulfilled
and He Would Appear Again or "Return"
to Reign in Glory Before Their Death
(and also to some in all subsequent generations,
to those who have prepared the way of the Lord,
by making his beaten tracks straight! )

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Regarding his coming to establish his Kingdom, Jesus said in Matthew:

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works. Matt 16:27

Assuredly I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see
the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. Mat 16:28.
(Notice he emphasized with the word Assuredly)

and Mark reports the same thing Jesus said regarding his return to establish his Kingdom:
(Mark 9:1 is the next verse after Mark 8:38)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation;
of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with
the holy angels. Mark 8:38

And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here,
which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Mark 9:1
(Notice he emphasized with word Verily. )

and Luke reports the same thing Jesus said regarding his return to establish his Kingdom:

For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed,
when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. Luke 9:26

But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27.
(Notice he emphasized, using "a truth.")

Jesus is trying to get us to pay attention to what he knows would be ignored: saying assurredly,
verily, a truth.

2000 years ago he said some would not die until they saw Christ in His kingdom.
We know there are not people 2000 years old walking around; so for some, Christ has already returned
in His kingdom.
His resurrection is not the return, because after he was resurrected, his disciples asked, was the Kingdom
to be established then?
and he said, "it is not for you to know the time or dates," and then rose to heaven, leaving them. Acts 1:6-9
Neither does the record of how he appeared to the disciples when resurrected faintly resemble
the prophecies:

they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. Mat 16:28
till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. Mark 9:1
he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. Luke 9:26
Nor does his resurrection match Matthew, Mark, and Luke's prophecies to be fulfilled before that
generation passed away.

We also have the record of Daniel seeing the Son of Man coming on the clouds in great
glory.

(Heaven appears to us in our soul's eye as a place of great glory existing in a cloud or a mist).

His glorious appearance and reign has already occurred for some that were standing
there with him 2000 years ago.
One of those standing with him who saw his glorious return with his Kingdom was his disciple John,
who later wrote in the Book of Revelations:
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and
patience of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:9
Paul said: Who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into the
kingdom of his dear Son. Col 1:13
The some are those who repented to become purified for the Kingdom.

Christ's appearance, the Kingdom, and the completion of and individual's salvation
are simultaneous.
Some of those standing with Him then, saw Christ's return before they died; they had repented
and prepared for Him.

All of those who do not repent, and prepare their hearts for his return, see him return at their death.
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:7
To the High Priest and the Pharisees at his trial, Jesus said..
you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the
clouds of heaven. Mark 14:62
Those not purified, to see Jesus' return before death, see him as they die, as all peoples in
all generations do.
This is not a particular generation.

This will not be a pleasant experience, particularly for those who thought that He would know them.
At judgment, Jesus said he would reject many who called him Lord and had even performed miracles
in his name
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who
practice lawlessness! Mat 7:21-23
Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4
Until we hear his voice, obey his voice, abide in his Him, and are purified by him; we still sin and
he doesn't know us.
The foolish virgins without oil in their lamps, said: Lord, Lord, open to us. (without abiding in Him,
his Light and Word)
Replying, Jesus said: Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Without abiding in Him, he doesn't
know us.
Jesus knows listeners: My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27
If you abide in My word, [Voice of the Lord], you are truly My disciples. You will know the truth, and
the truth will set you free. John 8:31-32
I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34
You cannot continue to be a slave to sin and serve God, or even expect his approval. Rom 8:8

See My Sheep Know My Voice for more. Also True Grace vs. False Grace, and The Missing Cross.
or See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God through repentance, which leads to Christ's
return with his Kingdom.

Jesus also said all the end time prophecies would be fulfilled before
that generation passed away.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32 Go read these yourselves. Jesus is talking about his return.
Below is Matthew 24:14-34, where Jesus said all the end time prophecies would be fulfilled
before that generation passed away.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and
then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in
the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no,
nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake
those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the
secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming
of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the
moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the
heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth
mourn, and
they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect
from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, you know
that summer is near:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(Notice the emphasis, using the word Verily.)

And in Mark 13:30, Jesus said all the end time prophecies would be
fulfilled before that generation passed away.

12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up
against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same
shall be saved.

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing
where it ought not, (let him that reads understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the
mountains:

15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take
anything out of his house:
 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God
created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake,
whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were
possible, even the elect.

23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall
not give her light,

25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and
glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the
uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, ye know
that summer is near:

29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the
doors.

30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
(Notice the emphasis, using the word Verily.)

And in Luke 21:16-32, Jesus said all the end time prophecies would be
fulfilled before that generation passed away.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolk, and friends; and some of you
shall they cause to be put to death.

17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is
near.

21Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it
depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be
great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and
Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of
nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth:
for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your
redemption draws nigh.
 29 And he spoke to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

30When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now near at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is near at
hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
(Notice the emphasis, using the word Verily.)

Just like Jesus told all his disciples: I will not leave you as orphans..I will come back to you.
His resurrection is not the return, because after he was resurrected, his disciples asked, was the Kingdom
to be established then?
and he said, "it is not for you to know the time or dates," and then rose to heaven, leaving them. Acts 1:6-9.
Neither does the record of how he appeared to the disciples when resurrected match with the
prophecies above.

So this is not the resurrection, but for Jesus to appear and to join in union with them.
If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.
My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. [home in the
heart of those who obey]
I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also. John 14:3
This is the return of Christ. The world does not see it. He returns with the Father. They become
one with us - union.
It is a personal experience. This is not His resurrection after death. He is talking about
becoming one with the disciples.
I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you will keep and protect them from evil.
John 17:15
So, Jesus wants to keep us in the world, but to protect us from evil, while in the world- to be sanctified.
Father, I desire that they also whom you have entrusted to me may be with me where I am,
so they may see my glory, which you have given me - your love gift to me - for you loved me before
the foundation of the world. John 17:24
We are physically still in the world, but our consciousness and sight translate to the Kingdom of heaven,
a higher dimension.
God is in this same higher dimension; in him we live and move and have our being; who is over all,
in all, and through all.
And there we have fellowship with the Father and the Son.
So with obedience to the cross, we can enter paradise while alive on earth, to be there forever, even after
the second death.

When I first discovered this, I marveled at how those, who have spent their life as Bible Scholars,
could possibly miss this.
I immediately heard the Voice of the Lord say: They are children. Children, not men; children who
easily believe fables.

But don't expect your preachers to admit their error, for to do so would put themselves out of a job;
they would be admitting they never had a clue as to what Jesus and his message was all about - blind guides.
They would have to admit they have promised you a false salvation, based on ritual and presumption!
Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. Mat 15:14

The blind guides smart enough to recognize these scriptures say: "Oh, yes Christ came back once already
to those disciples; but that one doesn't count for the one he really meant; they call themselves
Preterists." Some even say, congratulations! you are in the Kingdom and just don't know it; or maybe it
is your lack of faith that you can't see it. Ridiculous explanations for their ignorance and lack of faith in
the power of God to bring the Kingdom to individuals of all generations who through repentance and
the cross enter the Kingdom.

Go to the Teacher within you, the only teacher you need, who will guide you into all truth
through repentance. 1 John 2:27

Now we know his coming and reign has already occurred for some that were standing
there with him 2000 years ago.

The some are those who repented to purity in preparation for the Kingdom and
salvation's completion.
Jesus came so he could destroy the devil and his works [sin] in us - if we go to him.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, [in us] that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
A voice of one crying in the wilderness , Prepare the way of the Lord, make His beaten tracks
straight (level and passable)!
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and
many go in there:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matt 7:13-14
Unto them that look for him, shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28
When he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure. 1 John 3:2-3
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions,
and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,
while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and
Savior, Jesus Christ. Tit 2:11-13
Jesus told us plainly, the pure in heart shall see God, (Matthew 5:8-12). This is how it happens, to the pure
in heart!
(He, who has been hidden, is revealed; the revelation of Christ, within the purified believer.)
Jesus is resurrected in us to be our true Lord, ruling King of our words and actions. 2 Cor4:14,Col2:11-
12,3:1, Eph 2:6

Woe to the inhabitants of the earth who stand forth without repentance. - Voice of the Lord

Christ's return, the Kingdom, and the completion of salvation are simultaneous.

The Kingdom, and Christ's Return with complete salvation is an individual,

personal experience.

Click here to see further analysis on the end times' prophecies fulfillment as a personal experience.

You are probably asking yourself, how could this gross misunderstanding have happened? Joseph
Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda and expert in lies, said "if you tell a lie enough times, it will
be believed;" as argumentum ad nauseam. Another famous liar, Lenin, said "A lie told often
enough becomes the truth." The big lies regarding the return of Christ have been told so many times, by
so many people, the whole world believes them to be true - proof by assertion.

All the deficit sects of today are simply variations on the doctrines established by the Roman
emperor Constantine in 325 AD regarding salvation and Christianity; the doctrines were
further standardized by later Roman emperors, including the despot Justinian. These Roman
emperors, men of war and/or experts in debauchery, but made saints by their Roman catholic sect ,
were careful to construct and insist on doctrines that excused their continued depravity. As prophesied
in Revelations, the church adulterated with the Kings of the earth. The protestants are just variations of
the same basic beliefs: instant salvation by speaking words, water baptism, eating bread/drinking
grape juice, listening to sermons, etc.; the same basic ritual form of salvation and worship. Within sixty-
five years the true church, with its correct doctrines, was stamped out by the promise of freedom from
the false prophets' doctrine of ritualized, instant salvation, coupled with the Roman Empire's crushing
boot of persecution for any deviation from their authorized, state religion. For 1260 years the true
church was banished to the wilderness, to appear again in 1650 with the breakthrough of the early
Quakers, who were massively persecuted - only to die again by the late 1800s due to the deception
of presumption without repentance, and due to focus on outward societal reform instead of inward change.

I must have read over these scriptures one hundred times myself, passing over them with
misunderstanding and assuming I was just too stupid to get it. I only understood what these scriptures
are plainly stating, when I had other pieces of the whole puzzle, gained from direct teachings from
the voice of the Lord and the writings of George Fox, testifying to thousands of early Quakers receiving
the Kingdom, and seeing the validation of their true Christianity by: their love for each other, the power
of God that accompanied their ministries, and the massive persecutions they withstood without
resisting; persecution that Jesus said would be the mark of his true followers, and necessary to enter
the Kingdom of Heaven.

When Nicodemus questioned Jesus what it meant to be born of the Spirit, Jesus replied:

You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? I tell you the truth, we
speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept
our testimony. John 3:10-11

If our religious teachers of today only taught what they know for absolute certainty, from experience,
instead of book learning, passed-on gossip, and divinations from their own minds, stealing the
saint's words, we would hear a deafening silence. Perhaps we would then listen for and hear the voice of
the Lord to teach us, instead of the deep heaps of teachers and preachers who know absolutely nothing
from experience.

They are the false prophets without fruit of whom Jesus warned us against: (Prophesy is to preach; to instruct
in religious doctrines; to interpret or explain Scripture or religious subjects; to exhort.)

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious
wolves.
(they are wolves who want to devour your money - they see you as a source of money for themselves)
 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from
thistles?
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matthew 7:14-21

Christ said, "you will know them by their fruits;" and Paul defines the fruits of the Spirit: love, joy,
peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Gal 5:22-23

Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. Mat 15:14

Click here to see further analysis on the end times' prophecies fulfillment as a personal
experience, including tribulation, the Kingdom, the antichrist, and New Jerusalem.

Click here to learn How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God through repentance, which leads
to Christ's return with his Kingdom.

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.
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A Summary without Biblical Terminology

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Today, man lives in a spiritual state much lower than God, and lower than our original ancestors. Man
was created to be united with God firmly in his heart, guiding him, teaching him, and leading him in a
state of perpetual joy and happiness. Man enjoyed this for a time, but was tempted by an opposing spirit
to become like God, deciding what was good and what was bad, to make his own decisions, without
the counsel, wisdom, guidance, and joy of God’s direction. Thus each man became independent of
God’s guidance, deciding what was good for himself and what was bad - in effect each man acting as his
own God. Obviously, we all know different people reach different conclusions. Man became captive to
his lusts, pleasures, habits, anger, pride, and self-gratification with this self-centered behavior - often at
the expense of others around him.

There is a full history of God’s struggle with this newly selfish man, including giving him a set of rules to
live by – called the Law, delivered by Moses. But this did not result in a large scale restoration of man
back to unity with God. This restoration was left to God sending a perfect man to earth, born of woman,
but conceived by God – the man named Jesus. Before coming to earth as a man, Jesus had
previously created the heavens and the earth, having been the first-born of God’s creation and in whom
God then dwelled to rule the heavens and earth. Jesus stripped himself of his glory and kingship, coming
to earth in order to teach the next step in man’s restoration to God. The man Jesus [meaning, a
savior] Christ [meaning, with God’s Spirit] was killed by the religious people of his day, who failed
to recognize the character of God and recoiled against God’s condemnation of man’s selfishness, pride,
and rituals of religion without a change of heart. Jesus had many teachings about love and the necessity
to kill the selfish spirit in each of us, so God’s spirit could replace it, restoring us to unity with God; and
then living a life of joy, peace, faith, goodness, kindness, patience, and love – while enjoying the
guidance, counsel, wisdom, and happiness of God’s direction.

Jesus came so he could teach men and women how to get back into fellowship and happiness with
their creator. When man fell, there was a seed of God left in all men and women, called the Light in
men. Christ is this Light, which is within our consciences. This Light makes us feel bad when we lie or
steal. This Light, within all men, has been the source of wisdom throughout the ages. The everlasting
good news, eventually given to every man, is: "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his
judgment has come; and worship him that made heaven, and earth." Every man and woman has their day
of visitation where the Spirit of God reasons with them to alter their ways. If we heed the advice of the
Spirit or Light within us, we get more counsel. If we ignore the advice, God ignores us until we decide to
seek his counsel and direction.

Christ’s message was: that if we humbly want to know how to please God our creator, and if we will
get quiet and still to listen and watch, we will hear and see his direct teachings to us.
This process of "coming to him" in quietness, listening, and watching is known as meditation. Several
other religions share the same basic techniques of meditation. Both Hinduism and Buddhism
share meditation’s seeking of the Light within man; and they share the hope of attaining purity of heart
and mind. The ancient Jews also practiced this silent listening and stillness, seeking enlightenment. So
did the early Christians (prior to 390 AD), and so did the early Quakers (1646-1750) practice meditation
and the seeking of the Light to attain purity and death of their selfish spirit. They all sought purity of
mind and heart, a holiness and peace. Other meditations teach to ignore all thoughts, voices, etc.; while
the Christian way is to listen, hear and obey all moral commands heard. Without obedience to
commands heard, there is not spiritual progress; but obedience leads to purity and the promise of
union with God, entering another dimension of consciousness and awareness, the Kingdom of
Heaven. Jesus said he came to earth to declare the good news about the Kingdom of Heaven, which does
not come with visible signs, but is within and around a man – a different dimension in this same
physical space.

In meditation the Voice and Light of the Lord will teach us what to stop or deny. The Voice and Light
will show us the selfish defects in our heart; and if we regret the defects shown us, resolving to try to
be different, (called changing our ways or repentance), he will change us to be able to be different
– showing us our defects and then removing them. As we continue to wait on his teachings on
a daily basis, he will change us over time, one defect at a time, to become pure. As he purifies us, he
draws closer to us, giving us the satisfaction of his encouragements, teachings, and understandings
about the real life – the truth of life.

At the conclusion of this death of the selfish spirit within a person, Jesus will unite with that
person, creating an entirely new person, who looks the same, but whose consciousness is in a
higher dimension, living in the presence and glory of God, and with the maximum possible happiness for
a human, serving God with love to his fellow human beings.

This death of the selfish spirit is called the death of the cross, like Christ physically dying on the cross.
But our cross is not a physical cross, rather is a series of actions as follows: (repentance - regret of
past action and resolution to change our ways, resulting in his powerful help)

■ seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, as 1st priority, is an act of repentance and a
cross to your selfish will
■ turning away from evil, as you understand it, is an act of repentance and a cross to your selfish will
■ you don't want to sit quietly every day to listen and watch, but if you do - it is a cross to your selfish
will
■ you don't want to obey his commands that you hear, but if you repent- it is a cross to your selfish
will
■ you don't want to forgive injustices done to you by others, but you repent and forgive - a cross to your
angry self
■ you don't want to admit and regret what the Light shows your condition to be, but if you repent - it is a
cross to your will
(In the Light, is where you get changed, where your peace increases, as you repent. This is where you
abide in Him.)
■ you don't want to give to others from your excess, but if you repent from your selfishness and give- it is
a cross to your will
■ you don't want to defer (deny self) to others, rather than insist on your way, but if you repent and defer
- it is a cross to your will

This is the Inward Cross of Self-Denial Luke 9:23

Since our spirit and mind is selfish, by denying self, we (with his powerful help) are slowly killing off
our selfish spirit, mind, ways, words, and thoughts. So, if you wish to please your creator, or to have
the wisdom of his guidance, or to know your creator, or to be sure of your maximum happiness forever,
you will seek to listen and follow your creator’s guidance.

God will never take away our free will. Before the Lord removes the evils in our hearts, (which He reveals
to us), we must learn to hate and deplore our lusts, addictions, pride, and pleasures. We must hate them
so much that we would never consider returning to patterns of selfishness or rebellion against
the leadership of God.

When we die, if we have not been purified here on earth, we will be purified in the next life. Purification
by death of one's selfish spirit on the cross is not easy, but purification in the next life, (called Hell), is
much more painful and difficult; and the final result after purification, while better than life on earth, is
far less satisfying than if we are reunited with God while on earth. The pain, time, and difficulty in Hell
is directly proportional to the degree of our self-gratification in this life. Those, who do not use this life
as the opportunity to find union with God while on earth, will regret it forever. See Is There Hope for
All? for more on this purification process in the next life.

This is the single purpose of life – to find and be united with God. Trust your creator. God is
love. He wants more than anything to change us, so we can be in his company, to be loved by him, and for
us to love him. He is perfect, with great mercy and kindness, with arms open, waiting for those who
choose to please him. But, if we are selfish, not having learned to hate our anger, pride, lusts,
and addictions, we are not fit to be in the presence of God. Union can only occur after we are purified.

The so-called Christian churches today are clueless as to repentance, purity, union with God, and
entrance into the Kingdom of God. They rely on special worded prayers, getting wet, eating bread
wafers/drinking grape juice - all superstitious ritual and ceremony, which you are supposed to accept as
true without experiencing God yourself. This deficit is hardly surprising, when you consider that
Christ's disciples and apostles (John, Peter, Paul, and Jude) wrote of false teachers and preachers in
their time. Instead of teaching you to listen to the Lord yourself, the deficit sects' ministers read the Bible
to you and tell you to study the Bible to grow as a Christian.
When you hear the Lord speak to you, you will be thrilled; your faith will grow exponentially. He is kind.
He never upbraids. His words and visions are immediately understood. His gentle reminders of
your condition are easily accepted as though from a kind friend or father. He never keeps records of
wrongs. Despite our failures, if we regret them and resolve to do better next time, he is always ready
to proceed with our improvement. He will tell you of his love for you. He will encourage you
and compliment you for your successes. He is perfect. He is the one, true Teacher, teaching us to
deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, (giving us specific instructions as to what to deny and forsake), and
how to live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.

Note: These writings only refer to the early Quakers.

Many of today's Quaker sects don't require a belief in Christ or even God.

There are many books written between 1650 and 1725 by the Early Quakers - in English, with no
translation necessary, thereby eliminating many translation errors. Many of these writings are on this
site, with George Fox's Journal and Letters most prominent. They all testify to thousands of men
and women experiencing the attainment of purity and union with God in his Kingdom. (Unfortunately,
by 1880, the Quakers had completely lost any substance of the true religion and today do not even require
a belief in God). There is a brief history on George Fox and the Early Quakers available, (click here).
The Early Quakers had three testimonies to the validity of their message of purity:

1. Love for one another - and love for their enemies.

Jesus said: 'Just as I have loved you, so you too should love one another. By this shall all know that you
are My disciples, if you love one another.' John 13:34-35
2. Quakers were massively persecuted by Congregationalists, Episcopalians, Baptists, and
Presbyterians - 13000 Quakers were imprisoned, 200 sent to slavery, and 869 killed in prisons or by
hostile crowds of "Christians." Tens of thousands had their property seized for failure to pay tithes to
the approved churches.
Of his true followers, Jesus said: 'No servant is greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will
persecute you also.' John 15:20.
3. Many Signs and Miracles accompanied their ministry and message.
They went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the
message by the attesting signs and miracles that closely accompanied it. Mark 16:20

The purpose of this site it to show you the true hope of purity, union with God, and entrance into paradise
- the Kingdom of God - while on earth and then forever. There are three keys to the attainment of this
hope, all keys to the power of God working in you to change you:

1. Believing in the promise of purity, union, and entrance to paradise - the Kingdom of God
2. Belief in the name of Jesus Christ - belief in only his name unleashes the power of God - think on his
name when meditating.
3. To carry the cross of Christ by denial of self and resulting repentance.

That he would grant unto us, that being delivered out of the hand of
our enemies
we might serve him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Luke 1:74

God is the rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. Heb 11:16

You will show me the path of life. In Your presence is fullness of joy;
At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore. Psa 16:11 (written by King David)

See How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God for more information on how to hear the
Voice of the Lord, become enlightened, attain peace, and be restored to fellowship and union with God
in the Kingdom of God.
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Middle Ages Persecutions

From The True William Penn, by Sidney George Fisher, 1900, pp. 78-82

In the Middle Ages everything had been absorbed into theology and dogma. Artists could paint
only ecclesiastical pictures, and the skill of architects was devoted mainly to cathedrals. The politicians
were usually priests, and every man's last will and testament had to be proved before and his
estate distributed by a bishop. The domestic relations of life were entirely in the hands of the
priesthood. There was scarcely any physical science, and the little there was, was referred to the
theologians. If it would square with the dogmas, it was right; if it would not square with them, it was
wrong. If a fact of nature was contrary to a dogma, so much the worse for nature. All reasoning was by
the scholastic method, in which the dogmas of the church were taken as a starting-point from which
you might reason, but to which you must return on pain of death. Independent investigation,
original research, free inquiry were crimes. The dogmatic, the miraculous, and the impossible were
alone important The dogmas had been wrought by the most cunning human ingenuity into a
magnificent system. Beginning in the fourth century, when the Bishop of Rome began to claim authority
as chief bishop or pope, the development went steadily on. The worship of the Virgin began. Image
worship, which had been a heresy, was permitted in the seventh century. Transubstantiation, which
became in the end one of the most important doctrines, had not even a name until the eleventh century,
and was not definitely decreed until 1215 AD. So also of auricular confession, which was decreed the
same year. Up to the twelfth century there were only two sacraments. After that there were seven.
The celibacy of the clergy, which was unsuccessfully attempted in the fourth century, was finally
made binding in the eleventh.

Site Editor's Comments: For a complete history of the church, including its devolvemnet into the
error known as the Apostasy that is the Whore of Babylon, a separate page is provided.

In addition to all this, miracles were being performed [supposedly] almost every day, all over Europe,
at thousands of shrines and by thousands of persons, and they all had to be believed; and thousands
of saints were being created which must be worshipped; and holy rags and bones and pieces of sacred
wood, capable of curing disease and protecting from danger, were being multiplied without number.

Of the accompaniments of this system we can only briefly speak. The most typical, perhaps,
was witchcraft, for which during the Middle Ages over nine million men
and women were put to death. Other religions have been afflicted with this delusion, but
no religion ever developed it to such excess as the Christianity [supposed, but actually the Whore
of Babylon] of the Middle Ages. Over four thousand books were written on the subject, and the methods
for detecting and punishing this supposed crime were as regular and as well recognized as our
modern systems of police.

Of the cruelty of that religion most of us have heard. We are amazed at the organized system of
the Inquisition, with its regularly appointed officials like a modern corporation or a department
of government. We wonder at the men who studied the human body and the mechanical arts for the
purpose of producing the greatest amount of suffering; who invented ingenious methods of stretching
and crushing the joints and tearing out the fingernails; who wrote manuals to guide their successors
in detecting the smallest theological error and inflicting the greatest amount of torture; and who
followed the surest routes to agony with the same zeal with which men now build easy paths for
commerce and develop steam, electricity, and surgery.

Site Editor's Addition from St.? Thomas Aquinas' writings: "All members of a parish shall vow to
the bishop under oath that they will preserve the Catholic faith and will persecute heretics according
to their power. This oath must be renewed every two years. Males and females who have attained the
use of reason must confess their sins to a priest three times a year, or with their priest's permission
to another priest. They must perform the imposed penances humbly and according to their strength
and receive the holy sacrament of the Eucharist three times a year. Whoever does not do this is
 under suspicion of being a heretic. Lay people are not permitted to possess the books of the
Old and New Testament,.."

If you read the full link, you will see where the Catholics' ruthless methods of finding heretics makes
the Nazis look like amateurs.

So Christianity [the beast with horns like a lamb] became the most cruel as well as the most
superstitious religion that has ever prevailed among men. But the cruel part of it was all perfectly logical;
for those people had accepted literally and believed absolutely not only the great mass of the dogmas,
but the dogma which crowned the whole and made the system complete, the doctrine of exclusive
salvation. By that doctrine, unless a man believed all the other dogmas he could not be saved. If he
refused to give to them the consent of his mind, he must burn forever in hell. This was the keystone of
the arch, and, if it was true, every Protestant, dissenter, and heretic deserved instant death, and death
would be too mild a punishment The men who by their example and encouragement would wreck
the eternal salvation of others deserved not only death, but every kind of torture: to have their entrails
cut out and burnt before their eyes, to be torn asunder while alive by four horses, or anything which
would make heresy terrible. In the face of an eternity of woe for millions the anguish of a few
hundred counts for nothing; and thus the Middle Ages and the Inquisition logically reasoned.

Site Editor's Note: The thousands of Catholic priests who participated in this mass torture and
murder were all believers, baptized, taking communion, confessing their sins, praying regularly,
reading scriptures - all very holy mass murderers. Many Roman Catholic persecutions were justified
by Saint? Augustine's famous: Why ... should not the Church use force in compelling her lost sons to
return, if the lost sons compelled others to their destruction?" Thomas Aquinas also wrote: On the
part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the wanderer,
wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and second admonition," as the Apostle
directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the
salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and
furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby from the
world by death. Both of these giants of the Roman faith display classic ignorance, believing the
end justifies the means, which looses sight of the principal command of Christ to "love enemies," not
destroy them. And they ignore Christ's reply to his disciples when they wished to punish the people
who would not listen to him, severely rebuking them with: Ye know not what manner of spirit ye
are of. If someone is violating the standards of the church, (sinning), they are supposed to be
warned by one, then warned by two or three, then censured by the whole body of believers, - and if
they fail to repent of their error, they are supposed to be expelled and shunned - not killed, or
imprisoned, or tortured, or lose their property.

We all know the story of the Reformation: how the revival of the ancient learning of Greece and Rome
and the invention of the printing press pricked this vast bubble of delusion that had been inflated by
the efforts of a thousand years; and then Europe seethed and boiled and rocked to and fro with the
struggles of reform and fanaticism. But it was, after all, a slow process extending over several hundred
years. Even the most ardent reformers could at first get rid of only one dogma at a time. Wycliff the
first great leader of the Reformation, rejected only transubstantiation and kept pretty much all the
rest. Huss, his successor, attacked only the fraudulent miracles of the ecclesiastics and professed to
accept all the dogmas, although he struck at the root of the whole system by declaring his belief in
religious liberty. [Calvin participated in the execution of 23 people for heresy, including burning Servetus
at the stake because he denied any scriptural basis for the "Trinity."] Luther, who appeared a hundred
years after Huss, was also conservative. His famous ninety-five propositions were aimed only at the sale
of indulgences, which at that time was carried to great excess. He afterwards denied the authority of
the Pope, which was certainly going a great way. But he clung to many dogmas which were rejected
by nearly all other Protestants.

The same hesitation to break entirely and suddenly with the past was shown by all the large churches
or divisions of the Reformation. The Church of England, the Lutherans, the Presbyterians, and
the Congregationalist Independents gave up some of the dogmas, but clung to the remainder with
great determination. But the numerous small and badly organized sects were always more
progressive. Composed largely of lower-class people, with nothing to lose by a change and unprejudiced
by education, many of them disposed at once of the whole dogmatic system, and relied entirely on their
own thought and judgment, and reliance on individual conscience and judgment was the test
of advancement in the Reformation.

Modern update from the Lord: The Lord has said to me: "Where there is obedience, there
is righteousness; without it, you have World War II." Let us not forget, Nazi Germany was
a "Christian" nation. From the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of
conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers.

Hitler is quoted below:

 My feelings as a Christian points me to my
Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to
the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these
Jews for what they were and summoned men
to fight against them and who, God's truth!
was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man
I read through the passage which tells us how
the Lord at last rose in His might and seized
the scourge to drive out of the Temple the
brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was
His fight for the world against the Jewish
poison. Today, after two thousand years,
with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before in the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed His
blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have
no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth
and justice.... And if there is anything
which could demonstrate that we are
acting rightly it is the distress that daily
grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to
my own people.... When I go out in the
morning and see these men standing in
their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I
felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom
today this poor people is plundered and exploited.

-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

(from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Religious_beliefs
and http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html)

As horrible and distasteful as this speech and photograph are, they illustrate how relying on a small set
of Bible scriptures, while ignoring or being indifferent to the whole of the scriptures, can bring forth
a monstrous religion. Today there are 30,000 sects of Christianity, each with their different subset
of scriptures, each with their different interpretations, each without obedience, each
without righteousness. As the Lord said above: with obedience there is righteousness,
without obedience there is World War II.

Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
'Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Mat 7:22-23

Can you see how ludicrous it is to believe someone is saved, while still sinning?
Hitler thought he was saved; he thought he had the righteousness of Christ given to him
by Christ's blood. Can you imagine Christ embracing Hitler? The thousands of
Roman priests that slowly tortured and murdered 9,000,000 souls all prayed daily,
said Jesus was Lord, read their Bible, had been baptized, took communion regularly,
and more - they were very holy? mass murderers.

Can you see how the human mind can interpret scripture and create a fantasy, make-
believe faith, that can justify any level of sinning? Could the devil have created a
worse gospel to better serve his ends - the perpetuation of sin, the continued fall of man,
the illusion of being saved, but the guarantee of the soul's death for a sinner saved --
by grace!

As Isaac Penington said: "There is no reconciliation to be had between God and

man anymore, but by the change of this nature in man; for, God is unchangeable, he is
light, he is life, he is holiness unchangeable and will never be reconciled to, or
have fellowship with darkness, with that which is dead and unholy, - which man in his
fallen estate is, until he is begotten again to God, changed and renewed from his evil
and sinful nature, into a good and holy nature, and until he is turned from evil works,
and knows what it is to be the workmanship of God, created anew unto good works.
This does not happen by speaking words, getting wet, or eating wine and bread. Hitler
and the torturing priests did all that too! Penington tells us again how this happens:

"Nothing can produce this change in man, but the spirit and power of Christ, but the
grace and truth which is by Jesus Christ. Therefore, a man needs to be sure that he
receives this Spirit and power, and that he feels the operative, changing virtue of it,
and be really changed by it, being created anew, [the new creature], begotten anew to
God, in the holiness and righteousness of Truth, a son and servant to the living God; -
or he can never know what belongs to true reconciliation with God, and to fellowship
with Him in the light and life of his Son."

"All the religions and professions upon the face of the earth, which fall short of this
Spirit, life, and power, and in which this new creation in Christ Jesus is not witnessed,
[in contrast to assumed] nor power received to abstain from what is evil, and to
become sons to God, - are not the pure, powerful, gospel religion, in which the divine
virtue and power of life operates; but, that which men in the earthly wisdom have
formed without life. And, all religions that have but a form of godliness, and not the
power, are to be turned away from, and witnessed against, by such as are called forth
to be witnesses to the true, gospel religion and way of worship, which stands in Spirit,
life, and power."

"This religion and worship, which stands in Spirit, life, and power, is the religion and
worship, which Christ set up about sixteen hundred years ago. John 4:23-24, 1 Cor 4:20,
Rom 6:4. And, this is the religion which God has revived and set up again, as they that
receive the gospel now preach it; and, believing in the power, which is both outwardly
testified of, and also inwardly revealed, they have the witness of it in their own hearts.
Rev 14:6-7, 1 John 5:11-12, Isa 50:1. Oh how sweet are these Scriptures, when they are
properly read and correctly understood, the Lord giving the right understanding, and
leading into the true experience of them! He that is rightly grounded, I mean,
in the true and sensible experience of them in his heart, cannot miss of
God's guidance to make a safe and happy progress in it; providing he is
daily waiting upon the Lord, to be taught and led by Him, further and
further, into the life, Spirit, and power of Truth; so that, he shall be
taught of God to know his Son Jesus, and the freedom which is by the
Truth as it is in Jesus, daily more and more."

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful

nature, with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24

This web site's purpose is to show how to become

free from sin
by benefiting from the changing power of God through the cross,
which leads to union with God in his Kingdom.