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Thanks for being here on a Thursday night. Tonight is a rare occasion because A. it's the first
time we've had a t- well there's some seats [00:00:41.03] [difficult to understand because of the
backgroud noise]. [00:00:52.15] It's a harvest mmon in October, which really rarely happens. It
also happens to be at my eight year wedding aniversary. (Cheers) We actually picked the
harvest moon instead of a day which is really confusing to our parents but.. (laughter). So
thanks to Tracy Aviary. This is a continuation of a relationship that we started several events
ago, and most of our events have been a strange hybrid between citizens and family stuff. So
this is the first time that we are like we're just going too talk to grownup, and we are going to be
sure they're gownups because we're gonna feed them beer (laugh). So honestly, thank you to
[00:01:37.06] Brewing and the cider folks for donating their beer. (cheering) I also want to say a
big thank you to the [00:01:48.17]. (cheering). [too loud to hear her talk [00:01:49.22]. Raise
your hand if you got a shirt. If you missed out, because handcarved, like hand made in fromt of
you stuff takes time, I can show you a webiste where you can order it at the end. Exit through
the gift shop (laughs). A lot of our photographs today will be taken by a good friend of ours,
Kasey Grimly up in laytn, and finally [00:02:12.03] Most of you met Maya (cheering) Yup, ok i'm
going to let you click for me. Good. Kay if anyone can figure out the secret sign for clicking by
then end, I'll give you another beer ticket (laughter).

Um, the Comsortim for Dark Skies studies is a special special place. They are the first
academig instidution in the universe to study dark skies and why they matter. And they're up a
the U. So, we, are the way that people are going to join from the citizen side. We are the Salt
Lake City chapter of the international dark skiies association, which is a mouthful. So we jsut
say Dark Sky SLC. By we... I mean me right now (laughter). So, one of our goals for this is
regruiting some helo. I want some friends. I'm so exviced to meet excited people and talk to you
abuot how you might get involved. So know there is an open invitation. Similarily, there's an
open invitation for questions and comments during the talk, so don't feel like you have to wait.
Ok, all of our vendors are local on purpose, because Utah is a really special Dark Sky place and
we have some amazing local resources. National Bridges was the first Dark Sky park ever in
2007, since we have 9 Dark Sky sertified places. That's the highest number, that's the highest
concentration per unit area in the world. We have a really precious resource here. Amazingly,
two of those are Urban adjacent. So we can go to Northfork Park and we can go to Antalope
island and get some world class dark skies, which is really really rare.

So today we are going to be talking about a few things because they are things Utahns really
care about. Light polution impacts a bunch of stuff that you wouldn;t necessarily realize. Human
health , safty, air quality, save money, wild life, and connecting to the natural world. I'm going to
see if you can read my mind now (laughter). At this point, you're going to chat with folks, cuz
you know the ones learning are the ones talking, and the ones talking are the ones learning and
i don't really want to talk the whole hour. So if you came with someone, chekc iin with that
someone. if you need to meet someone, go ahead and meet someone. But I need you to talk
with one or two people and I need you to figure out how much sleep everybody got last night.
Ready, go. (lots of muttering). [00:04:51.16]
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Alright mostly people, man that is a really differnt exercize with grown ups who have had beer
than it is with freshman in highschool. Come back come back. Most sleep people, raise your
hands if you were in a pair, most sleep. If you'v had the most sleep in your pair. If you had the
most sleep iin your triad. Middle in a triad. Least sleep in your pair. Ok. Thank you. Remember
that. Kay let's go ahead and start this talk with astronomy. Go ahead and please raise your
hand if it says astronomer on your business card. [joking and unneccessary words] A lot of
times we try and start these talks with astronomy and that's a really hard sell when 80% of
Americans can't see the Milky Way from their homes anymore. Right? So Dark Sky work started
with astronomers because they were the first ones to be like oh look, that's a problem, but we
don;t know its a problem. Right? We have a shifting baseline. We don't know what we're
missing. So waht I'd like you to do is I want, most sleep person to take a stab a defining light
pollution, middle people, and or least sleep people take a stab at definig these words. Ready go.
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[00:07:50.19] Alright, who's partner said something smart about light pollution? (laughter) Yes,
what did your partner say? (someone in the aduience says something that cannot be heard).
yeah give me the light pollution one. ([00:08:02.06]audience member is speaking here, can be
heard but I did not transcribe it because he is not exactly part of the speach Conversation with
the aduience continues with more people responding) [00:08:17.01] Oh we had some examples.
([00:08:18.20] more audience talk)

[00:08:44.26] Ok so we know glare from a differnt space. Hit me Lisa what'd you got? [audience
member replies]

[00:08:58.09] Oh youre taking this to a sciency place. (laugh) Hey, it's acutally a little simpler
than thatn. So yup light pollution is pretty much any light that we don't intend to be in places.
Right? Light tresspass is direct photons so we know where the source is, light pollution is more
diffuse. Glare is when we can accutally see that bulb and it affects our vision.
Everybody with me on that? So when I talk about light polllution, those are sort of the three
categories that we are talking about. If you, hes saying my freaking eeballs (alughter) Ok go
ahead. (audience talks). Well it's [gare] the worst for us, but we'll talk about that we aren't the
only thing. Um, raise your hand if you googled Bordle Scale when it was on the flier? (laughter).
I just really like knowing who my nerds are. Fantastic. Ok um the Bordle Scale is the way that
we measure light pollution and it is a relative scale, so we actually descide what we can see and
that tells us how light pollluited it is as far as constillations. Um, usually in Salt lake City we end
up floating right around here. (amazed reactions) So you can see how astonishing it is that we
have Dark Sky places that qualify so close to us. Isn't that amazing? You can also see how
quickly those resources will be threatened if we don't attend to that. So this is some satalight
imagery that shows with light heat maps how that's changed over time. This has happened
pretty quickly. Computer modeling is kind of the best, and the way that they do these predictions
is they feed in metrics from the past and if tey can create ast conditions, we know that the future
model is reliable. So this is where we're headed. So we can see that these Dark Sky places are
under threat. Was there a question? Okay.

So Humpry david kinda got jipped because Tomas Edison was a go-getter. Thomas Edison gets
the credit for inventing the lightbulb, and that was in 1878. We have been in our current form for
a little bit longer than that. We have been walking on two legs and living socially for even longer
than that. If that doesn't sit well with you, we can look at if from a different angle. Oh Oh I forgot
this slide was in here because it just happened. So these gentlemen were just awarded the
Nobel Prize litterally on October 2nd. They have figured out a biological mechanism for our
carcadien rhythms. Isn;t taht incredible? Like an actual genetic place where molecules morph
depeingin upon our relationship to the day and the night. So go back to that tree of life slide. So
we can see that this is a really old story. Right? It's literally in our DNA, our relationship to the
day and night is literally a part of us. Go ahead and pass that on. That might not do it for you.
Anybody know this guy? Ken Hamm. So Ken Hamm, so you know we have agreed to disagree.
And Ken Hamm is a young earth creationist who I respect becuase anytime you commit your life
to a message, that takes conviction. is message is that the earth is 6,000 years old. That's cool.
it's dfferent than my world view, but it's okay. But in Ken Hamm's story, there was still a really
pivitol moment where there was darkness and there was light. Right. And so we know that no
matter how you conceive of yourworld, we know taht this world has always, until Thomas
Edison, or Mr. Davey, had light days and dark nights. And that has some really serious
impliciaonts.

Go ahead with that said, and check in with your partner, I would like the one that has been the
least talkative to go ahead and hypothesize who was this clock made for?[00:13:33.29]
(audience talking)

[00:14:16.17] Anyone ready to uh, oh I have a phone a friend reqest (laughter) Anyone ready to
put money on their bet? This was made for folks who suffered dimentia. Because one of the
most painful elements of dimentia is that we actually don;t know when its day and night and that
can be so deeply disorieting. So we are acutally gonna start not with the universe, but as we so
often do,e speiclaly in teh West, we're gonna start with us. (laugh) So. Light pollution really
simply affects our brains. This is our optic nerve. Even when our eyes are closed, photons can
still get in there, we can still perceive light. That happens really near some of the most essential
conrol sstems in our brain. Which has some really powerful impacts on our health. The easiest
one is that it messes with our sleep wake cycle. Right? Melatonin is the hormone that controles
when we feel like sleeping and waking. The three gentlemen who just got the nobel prize have
confimend that. Um there are some feel good chemicals that contrimbut to depression and
anziety. Anyime we are managing our neural response with our adrenal corticle conplexes,
we're dealing with blood pressure, were' dealing with heart rate, we're putting our cardiovascualr
system at risk. And there have been some really astonishing studies um showing links really
strong links to anytihing controled by our growth hormones. So for example there's really strong
work showining that nurses who do shift work are six times more likely than their [00:16:11.05]
genetic and familiar predictions to get breast cancer. So this has some uh, really intesne health
impact implications for us. Any questions about that? (audience asks more of a humorous
quesition and response is similarly more on humor.)

In you teams, knowing that, what might you do? How might you protect your brain. You
personally. Go ahead and chat. [00:17:15.14] [00:17:27.00]

Alright shout out some ideas. Yeah get those lights out of your sleeping space. It can literlly be
just the little on light on your phone. Yeah what else? Yes, the little masks. you can get them so
it looks like you have owl eyes. I recommend that. What else? Cover your eyes. Black out
curtains, ect. So we as a sort of technology seaking species, we've got ourselves covered. We
know how to protect our indivitual selves, right? So we'll just light the heck out of everything
else. Right? We'll have our little sleep mask and our shirt and our blackout curtains, and all
electorocls will be out of our rooms and we'll just turn the rest into a stadium.

This is actually a neighborhood in the Bronx. In New York. It's a project. In this project, you may
noice here it has this super light. So super lighting is happened in poor communities of color for
a documented 300 years. So there's some people who get to decide what safty is and some
people who are told that they are unsafe. And there is a myth. We think that more light is safer. I
would like you to try and idnetify the threat in that picture. And let's go ahead and cover up that
light, and identify the threat. So here, we're dealing with glare, which directly impacts our vision.
Thankfully for this example, our eyes work allarmingly like a camera, right? So we can't see the
guy. We cover up that glare, so that's all we have to do to prevent light polution, it's so stinking
easy. And then for those dark places where potential assailents might hide actually go away.
Cicago did a study on this, and they lit certain allleys and they didn't light certain alleys. The lit
alleys actully had a decrease in daytime crime but an increase in nighttime crime. And that's
been repilcated in 66 cities and has been published in several city planning jounals. So it really
is a debunked myth. More lighting is not safer. Better lighting is safer.

Now back to those communities where we are bombarding them. I pulled this off of a tweet. This
woman took a picture from her house in that same housing project. This is what she is exposed
to. Right. That's a closed curtain. Right? So folks who are being asked to live in situation shwere
safty is a different sotyr anyway, are then being told that this is the way towards more safty
while being toltaly disepowered to take care of their own personal health and well-being. And
they're places are't actually safter. Lighting is a social justice issue.

Ok, we've covered human health and safty. To air quality. Let's talk about air quality. Talk to
your team if you are not from here you get to learn about how much air quality is something we
think about. Ready go.

I don't need any names, we can preserve folk's confidentiality. But tell me condiitons. What
kinds of contidions are our loved ones suffering from or ourselves, that are exaserbated when
our air gets bad? Athsma for sure. What else? There is a really well documented pattern of folks
seaking support for depression when the air is bad. Yup, heart disease, absoulty. So we know
that air quality also impacts our health. In the valley there is a couple diffrent reasons for that,
but there's on that's newly connected to light plollution. So we have two fancy kinds of air
pollution in the valley: particulates, which is the chunky stuff and smog or photochemical smog
which is actualy the stuff from our tial pipes when dosed with light energy turns into this magical
super toxic soup. As more light energy happens throughtoyt the day, that becomes more and
more toxic. So we have these really predictable pattersn. They are diurnal patterns, they
happen daily. We know that ozone gets bad, ozone gets better. Ozone gets bad, ozone gets
better. Makes sense? Because every night the air has a chance to scrub itself because it is no
longer being bombarded with those photons. This paper though that was published in nature in
2007 found that the more photons we add to the atmosphere, the less that stuff gets to disolve.
We keep adding energy to the soup. We keep it toxic. Questions about that? Guess. Ready go.
(Audience brakes through)

Yeah we waist 60%. Which ends up being 3.3billion dollars every year on photons that we are
just shooting into the air. That is the equivalent of 21 million tons of carbon dioxide per year.
Which would be the equivalnet of taking 4.4 million passenger vehicles off the road for a year.
So we have this weird loop where we get back the air quality. 80% of the electricity that Utahn's
use come form coalfinre powerplants. So we waist 60% of that, we buned a bunch of coal for
nothing.

How many of you love birds? Yeah how can you not love birds right? So all of these are birds
that are found in Utah. There are also song birds, or passerinenes. This is an incredible graphic
that I just watch all day. These are actual migration routes of, this is a compilation but you can
go by species, so this represents I think something rediculous like a 180 species. But this shows
how far those tiny little bodies fly every single year, twice a year. Isn't that astonishing? So
check in with your partners. Why do they migrate and when do they migrate. Ready, go.

Who had a good why? They are tiny little birds, they are trying to stay warm. And food. RIght?
When the sun goes away, the food sources go away so it's a combination of temperature, food
sources, nesting sights, stuff like that. When? Spring and Fall. When that tild of the earht starts
to change the photon intensity and things start to shift. This is astonishing. I just learned htis this
year. This is smoe raidar, and this is showing the density of migrating songbirds. You can see
them. Anybody notice what time they are migrating? They migrate at night. This image was 3:30
in the morning. So songbirds migrate at night for a couple of reasons. Numver 1, the air is just a
little more still and predictable. These guys like to migrate over water paths. Do you guys see
this is us? This is the top of Utah. And here's the Washatch front. So we are litearlly in the heart,
we have build ourselves right into their migration corridor. And there might be some feeeback
there, we are not really sure. Oh did you guys here the stuff on NPR today? It's perfect. About
how light might attract birds to cities? Yea. They migrate at night because the air is calmer, they
migrate over waterways and it's also a great way to avoid some of their raptor predators. Does
that mean that rapotrs are not affected by lght pollution? It doesn't, but we'll get to that in a
second. So this is why we are having this migration moonwatch becuase when the moon is full
you can see these tiny little guys filying across the face of the moon. That's a Swift. Isn't that
amazing? How they know it's a Swift, I dont know. I got it off the internet. Robert Miller said it
was a Swift. So i strongly encourage you, our buddy Shelby is out there from the planetarium
with some rad scopes, please look at the moon tonight. And maybe say late enouth that you
might see a bird or two scoot accross cuz it's really special.

This is the hard part. So we can see that for birds who have been around and been species for
a whiile without artificial light, when they get intp these cityscapes and they are used to using
starlight as a complonet of their navigatoin system they get confused. When that confusion is
combined with our buildings, espeiclly those made of glass, which birds can't see, they get
really thrown by the sort of reflection to I think I can go through that situation. We loose
approximalty a billion songbirds a year in North America alone. So this is some stunning work.
This is by a woman in Minianapolis named Miranda Brindin and she did some work similar to
that Cooper is going to present in a moment but these are all birds that she walked around
during migration and found in the heart of downtwon and she did this stunning art project where
she then repostitoned them in this like imaginary moment of their demsie, which is really
powerful and really heart wrenching work. I'm not going to lie I might have cried when I was
making this presnentation. So this is fankly why I got into this work. Cuz this is not ok.

So what can we do? The first step, like most things, is learn. Cooper come on up. So the foldks
who started this are folks in toronto who started a program claled Flap the fatal light awareness
program. they started walking around during migration and collecting bird bodies. they saved
those boies and then laid them in a public art display and got massive support for a program
that they called lights out for migration. So this is my good friend Cooper Farr, she is the
conservaion biologiest at tracy aviary and she has done some amazing work in our tiny little city.
We have our very own monitoring program for bird collisions. Ready go

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It is called the Salt Lake Avian Collision survey, or SLACS. So we started this Spring with the
Spring migration and now we are in the Fall migration. And so we are basically walking around
Salt Lake down town. We have a team of citizen science voulnteeers adn we are basically oging
around and looking for birds. Most of them when they collide with buildings they die, but we
have found a couple stunned birds that we were able to release to other places. So it seems a
bit of a depressing thing to get involved with but it was really importatnt work. so we are using
this data to try and inform some actiono to try and make salt lake better for birds who are flying
thourgh our area. So we want to understand are there really problematic areas downtown, really
bad buildings that are especilly impacting birds that are cming through the area. So we can
maybe work with those people to see if we can make some changes to what they are doing at
night. And we are always recruitng people to come help us. I think some of you guys stopped by
our table. So we have infmration about how to get involved but if you search for SLACS or go to
tracyaviaryconservation.org/slacs you'll see lots of infomration about what we do and how you
can get involed. Um, so this fall we're doing it thorugh the end of October, so homefully some of
you will come join us.

(Speeker change)
Birds aren't the only ones. It's a crappy photo, but see if you can figure out what's going on. Talk
to your partner. Ready, go.

This indeed a tree in Autun. This tree is indeed getting mostly the right signals about when it is
time to pull in all that really expspensive cholorphilll and get ready for a long winter except
where the sstreet light is messing things up. This is a really great exampple of how this is astart
example, but we actully have no idea, there has been almost no work about the mpact of difuse
llight pollution on plants. Photosynthesis is really intteresting. In some plants, there's liek this on
and off, but in some there's tis dimmer switch, and so we jsut dont know what this sort of low
level of constant photons is doing to the mechanisms in these really complex organisms that are
the basis of the food chian

Similarily, moving up the food chain. These guys probably didn't always hang out here. We don't
really know what that means. it was really fascinating, we did a Jane Jakobs walk adn we
walked by the temple that [00:37:22.03] butifly up with cold white bastion of goodness and there
were a bunch of nighthawlks feeding over it. Whic is just not where you would expect
nighthawks. So there are so many ecollogical questions that are unanswered there. What
species are theseS? Where should they be? Who are they starting outor not pollinating where
they were? Why are they attracted to that? Anybody know? Same thing as birds, they think it's
the moon. They think it's a signaml to be moiving from one place to anohter. you know how the
moon is always there when hou are driving, well that's why the moon is always tehre when
wer're driving. that's why we see moths circlig flames. So we also dont kow what that means for
their nutritionor the nutrition of the birds that are or bats that are feeding on them. There are a
whole lot of questions. Talk to your partner. What's going on in this example. Ready go.

turn back little turtles, go the other way, go right. So Miami actually has a successful lights out
program smilar to toronto and paris, thye have a lights out for migration program. miami actually
has folks who stand on teh beach and liiek shoo turtles back during hatching season. It's pretty
cute. And gettng more effective but still kinda tragic. So there are lots of ways that this light dark
interplay plays out in ecological systems, and it woulb just be arrogance to pretend we could just
understand it all. Because systems are really complex and it's really hard for us to understand
how affecting one compeltn of a system ight affect others.

There's one more thing. And thisis actully a realkl important thing. So we know that we are
supposed to cover our lights. we know that glare and tresspass are bad. only on when we need
them. shiled our lights. Those are our two rules right? We need to add another rule. Cuz it turns
out the color of the light relaly matters, and we didn;t know this unitl we started making the
wrong color of lgiht. we thought that the LED revloution would save us. The problem is that the
LEDS we are making are what we call, there, this is hard for me right because it's a cool color
but a hot temperature whihc is frustrating. Well that mimics daylight. So those old sort of
bulbous hallogens that loook super ornage, that was actually way better for wildlife. These
streetlights have been changed to this and these have not yet. Do you see that. It;s really stark,
you can tell color temperature. its really easy to look at. Adn we go back to human health. This
affets us too. When we are exposed to this blue light, that 100% of our screens emmit, so stop
being on your screen at night, that messeses with us too. That tells that melotonin producing
part of our brain that it's still dalight so we should still be doing daylight [00:41:38.21]
physiologically. So we jsut said them. see you you can come up with them again. What do we
think about if we want to prevent light pollution. Ready go.

When are they on? Only when we need them. Lights sensors or motion sensors are great for
that. only when we need them. What do we do with the actual ficture? Shild the bulb. eliminate
that glare. And what color are they? It's easiest just to say warm light. warm light, low color
temperature. Below 2500 Kelvin is the best if you want to get nitty gritty.

So this is fascinating. There's a doctoral studnet in Chicago who;s wokring on this, she's in
sociolog. She's crusing around doing a bunch of ehtnographic interviews of folks who go to dark
sky places. And overwhlelmingly the words that people use when they go to these places are
workds like awe, spiritual, connected. I'm not a super touchy-feely kind of human. And so as an
advocate for dark skies this has taken me a little bit to get comforatble talking about. but
because I really like thinking about the hisor of our species, if i situate it in that way, it helps me
out a lot. A lot of times when I talk about this to people, especially in socliial justiice circles, this
is Maslow's hierarchy. this is an idea form Psychoogy. It says that if we are going to be okay as
humans, first we need our physiological needs met. We just need food water [00:44:29.02].
Then we need ot feel safe. Then we are aready to be socal, then we are ready to be creative,
they we are ready to sort of realize our full potentila. So often people see this conversation as
up here. This is some fluffy extra thing we get to think about once all of these other needs are
met. So when I talk with advocates who are working in things like food and security or domestic
violence or very really emergent social issure. They'll say like please, this doesn't matter. This is
jsut not that emergent. And I actually hear that wiht a sort of condescening quality accidnelty,
they don't mean it, but I'm open to the possibiity that osmeone can both deserve food secruty,
deserve to feel safe in a loving relationship, and have access to the natrula world where they
live and feel awe and have their adrenal system not attack by light that they do give permisision
to. I'm open to that possiblity. So this is a beautiful piece of art. This guy does this, this is Los
Angelos. What he does is he takes a lot of computer modeling stuff and overlays what cities
would look like if we were successful. In 1994 this is what Los Angelos actually looked like.
Because there was an earthquake and there was a blackout, and people called both the
observatory and 911 because they didn't know what the milky way was. And they were afraid.
So think again about how long we havn't had light. And how many different ways we'vebeen
people without light. We know Montu Pitu was ntirley built around celestial situaltions. This is the
sky disk of Nevera, which was found and it's like 7000 years, no it can't be that old cuz it's
bronze. Like 3000 years old? this is a maoury map of the stars. The Mauroy folks have some
really cool stuff going on. They don't see, they see constelations in the negative. So we draw
lines between the stars, they sort of fill in the spaces. And I'm just in love with the fact that the
biggest thing in the sky is a blue whale, which is the biggest thing in the ocean. Isn't that the
coolest thing ever. Polinesian folks use this information masterfully to nangivage. This is a map.
This is near us. This is Taco canyon. And there are some theories but this is thought to be a
predictor of one of a couple of commets. And then finally some of our oldest civiliations have
been looking into the starts and finding meaning. And this is just those that have been recorded.
We don't know what the sky menat. A lot of times people talk about this in terms of "That's
where we got science and if we are gonna keep going to the mooon and American
exceptionalim and go fight win," and I'm learning it's bigger than that. On the selfish level, cuz
that's where most of us are motivated, there's actualy some really cool micro stuff that goes on.
there was some stuff that was published two years ago that shows that we can get all of our
antioxidents from eating or we can just be in wonderment. That being in awe has an
antiimflamitory affect on our bodies. So I can't help but wonder if for lots of reasons ginvg all the
things happening in the world. Someitmes we feel small in a pwoerless way. being able to see
the sky again might help us feel small in a bigger way.

So what do we do? Keep hanging out with us. So on October 20th, Betty Maya, who is an
astonishing Dark Skies photographer, is gonna teach us some of her tricks. I don't think we can
ask her to teach us all of them. At Antelope island state park. Come on out the event's on
Facebook, I'll show you how to get to that. on the winter solstice I'm trying somethign new for
me. I'm doing a yoga thing at 21st yoga. We're calling it the Dark of Heartness. And then we try
and do all kinds of events whenever we can possibly put them together. Next migration is
looking good for some of these. Migration, lights out for migration spreading the word sorts of
events. You can find us on facebook at SLC Dark Skies. Go ahead. But if you want to get
started right now, it's really easy. Fix your own lighting. Go to your porch light, figure out if your
light is tresspassing on your neighbor, talk to your neighbors. This is Eric, he's a good friend of
mine. He is working on some sample letters that are going to be availble on our website so you
can approach your neighbors in ways that are really productive and nonthreatening and happy
and make your neighborhood a better lit place. Join us. you can find us at darkskiesslc.org.
Again by us. If you join, which I strongly encourage you to do, you will also become a member
of the international dark sky association, and they are doing some amazing lobblying work and
they have resoures like you would not believe and they've been a really huge suppoter. We are
a liscensed subsidiary of them. Next, you can talk to your community and city councils. I thought
our first work was gonna be getting an ordance. I was wrong. We have an ordinance. There's
already language in Salt Lake that says light tresspass is not okay. Awesome, it's just not
enforced at all. So our next work is just raisning awareness. So our work is to help arm you.
While we're happy to come and speek to your community councils, and I'm speaking for myself,
Maya and Cooper, my work is really to make you the expert. i want you to be able to confidently
approach whoever you would like to approach with this work, and i'm happy to do any sort of
coaching or teambuilding or thinking partnering you would like to apprach that. That's my goal.
It's really imporatnt when we do work that's difficult that we also remember why we do it. And
then we commit to feeding that part of ourselves so that we rememver that when things get
frustrating and that when we loose buz we're gonna lose, and we;re gonna lose more than we
win, but the wins are going to be so powerful. But infrequnt enought that we do need to fortify
ourselves. And finally, if any of us have gotten to see the Milky Way, we have to acknowedge
that that is a postition of privilage in this country right nw. that we have the time, that we have
the gas money, that we had the wherewithall to make it happen. Not everybody gets that. Our
most vunderale communities are the most impacted by light pollution and as people of privilage
it is our responsibility to undo that. Thanks.
(Note: I am removing filler words like "um" and also some misspeakings and false starts where
the sentence starts and then has to be restarted. As well as anything from the audience or any
relplies to the audinece that would not make sense without context of the audence's comment.
Also any comments directed towards the person who is managing the slides. I also took out a
few obvious jokes. Also some sections like comments on the slides being out of order or
incorrect things on the slides. Also any indications of time, like saying we right now are in the
middle of migration season. )

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