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I N T ROD U CT I ON
D uring t he latter part of his life he saw the ris e and fall
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citizen o f Marseilles he became blind when nin e months
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o l d ; but his father se ems to have dete rmine d from the rst
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spirit helped him to triu mph over his blindness and build
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life it was his habit to take boys into his house and
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with gaiety till death was his only reply t o a poet who
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our eyes to look at Him " would guess that these experi
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regard him as a saint All the p ens in the world says
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o ne witness cannot exp ress that which was seen and
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something of God he says abuse those who demand
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nothing but G o d -
the perennial quarrel between the
Marthas and Marys o f t he d evotional life Though his .
may be a priest and this admittanc e to ecclesiastical
status gave Malaval great joy The rst attack upon his .
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whole theory and practice of passive p rayer which was ,
year the Italian translation of Mal aval s book was pro '
F aci le with t he doctrine of B os s uet s E tats d Oraison i n
Bossuet b rought against Mal aval that of failing to give
due place to the Humanity of Christ might be brought ,
of the Cross But any o ne who reads with care the Fifth
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H e replied in an Open L etter j ustifying the o rthodoxy
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lette r was s ent to all the Fren ch bishops ; but was igno red
by Bossu et who d esired no che cks o n his anti Quietist
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he holds and surely with justice that his own path is
open in its simplicity to many who have not yet tried it he ,
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is keenly alive to the diversity between spirits and anxious ,
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of the Church are good but they do not suit everybody
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and agai n We are not obliged to draw water from every
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a love that is above all love and a delight above all delight
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ing are already faithful and fervent memb ers o f the Chur ch .
mo nio us with his o wn expe rience and owing its richn ess ,
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something w hich is impossible in this life namely a ,
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into harsh daylight vulgarized misunderstood and pro
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claimed as a short cut to union with God open to all
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good for ever unl ess we revoke it and need not be repeate d
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o r renewed The disregard of common human nature
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W ho would believe says Bremond with justice , that , ,
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particular point Thus health or beauty may be a habi tus
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tendency to G o d It is in essen c e .
nothing but a , ,
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habitual gaze xed on God P res ent This habitude as .
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It is true that even acquired contemplation depends
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tion o f s elf love and manifesting its fruit in its daily life
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When he goes o n t o sp eak of infused contemplation ,
enough for it t o be led by the hand without being ,
li b eral
. N e p revenez jamai s D i eu, s ui vez-l e to ujours , et ne vous
mettez en p ei ne q ue d ai mer et non p as d e voir
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E VE LYN U N D E RH I L L .
T RAN S L AT OR S N OT E
But I had no sooner received the book whi ch is of
priceless value being s o far as we can ascertain t he only
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copy in existen ce then I was asked to undertake a post
whi ch has since made it impossible for me to work in the
Museum And s o I had to translate the book without
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deal ; the author had evide ntly not read his proofs ; there
wer e many obvious misprints many more printer s errors
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the First Treatise was identical with the rst page of the
S e cond One o f them had evidently been copied from
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has ind eed brought down t he greates t lights of Heaven
to illumine the things of G od and this light whi ch ,
that during the two hund red and sixty years of its existence ,
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this little vellum covered volume yellowe d by age and ,
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ambiguity of her expression ; too great exactitude he ,
nai vely remarks might l ead to doubt whether it was
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real ly a woman who wrot e On the autho rity o f Baron
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t he Authoriz ed Version .
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. Malaval submitted but his work remained on the ,
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I t is good to k eep c ose the secret of a King,
b ut to reveal glori ous ly the works of G od .
C ON T E N T S
I N TROD UCTION
T RAN SL AT oR s N oT E
DE I ATION
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F RS T T RE AT I S E
S E C ON D T RE AT I S E
P REF ACE
D IALOGUE I
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Aft er hat manner contemp l ati on and the knowl ed ge of
G o d s h o ul d b e earnedl
D IALOGUE II
I n whi ch t h e nature of t hat h ab i tua contemp ati on i s l l
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explai ned wh i ch h as a read y b eco me h ab i tua and whi ch l
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p ro duces a fami i ari ty b etween G od and th e s ou l
D IALOGUE III
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I n whi ch facu ty of the s ou contemp ation takes p ace ; l l
whi ch act i t i s of thi s facul ty ; what s us p ens i on o ne
exerci s es in i t, and wh eth er th e so u i s p ure y p as s ive l l
in thi s state
D i AL oGUE I V
T hat G od , p ure and i neffab e, ab s tracted from al l
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p arti cu ar t hought, i s th e o b ject o f p erfect con
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templati on, even a though wh en we so des i re, we can
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contemp at e oth er D ivi ne things
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D IALOG UE V
T hat th e humani ty of Our L ord Jes us Chri s t i s a
s trength to contempl ati on and h ow i t i s to b e mad e
use o f
D i AL oGUE VI
to medi tation
D i AL oGUE VI I
( i i ) W h et h er a so ul m u s t h av e l o n g p racti s e d m ed i t at i on
b efore advancing to contemplation
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( )ii W h et h er eve ry so ul i s call ed t o co nt e mp l at i o n
D IALOGUE VI I I
D IALOGUE IX
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i W h et h er co ntemp l ati on d es troys th e practi ce of
medi tation
( ) W hether
ii one v
gri e es G o d in prep aring no material
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D IALOGUE X
(1) W h eth er th e soul i s i dle in contemplation
(i i ) H ow that d es ti tuti on i s to b e und ers tood to whi ch the
so ul red uces i ts elf i n o rd er to contempl ate
D IALOGUE XI
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(i) W hether one s hou d read i n or er to d conte mplate
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(11) H ow one s hou d us e voca prayer l
D IALOGUE XI I
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Recapi tu ation of t e w h hl o e matter mplati on
of cont e
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wi th s p eci a exp anati ons
AP P ROB ATION OF T H E D O CTORS
E XTRA CT FROM TH E S AN CTION OF T H E KIN G
DE D I CA TI ON
MON S E I GN E UR ,
gr a ti t ud e a nd to m ak e y o u a so l e mn a ss u r an ce of y m
resp ect and venera ti on i n ofering to y ou this S econd Trea tise
temp lati on exp eri enced by so many good souls, and in whi ch
even those who accom n th i l n in g w i th tr u e p yi et
p y
a e r ea r
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nd every d a y m or e s ig n i ca n t o b sc u r i ti es ; a d a r k n e ss m o r e
jy
o a n d a ll o u r p e a ce. H o w s m a ll i n d ee d are H ea v e n a n d
ea rth comp a red wi th H im" H ow good i t is to res t in nothi ng
y o u r re ad e r s t h r o u g h t h a t w h i ch y o u w r i te
. I t i s th i s s i n g u la r
ju s ti ce m ay b e a s em in e n t as y ou r ra n k , s o t ha t y o u w i ll ever
y o u th is w or k , I t a k e th e opp o rt un i ty f o m a k i ng p ubl i c m y
delight in a p romotion on which Rome congratulates herself
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so heartily and in which all men of good wi ll ha ve s uch cause
f o r rej oi cin.
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B ut, M ON S E I GN E UR, in dedica ting to y ou the second
p a rt of t h is T re a ti s e i t s eem s to m e th a t the rs t p a r t wi ll
recei ve new l ife, and tha t, even a l though many i mp ress ions
i llumines those who do not ask to see every thing, b ut who s tudy
to humble thei r reason before the aby ss of F a i th .
g r a teful servant,
F rancois M ala val .
AU T H OR S P RE F ACE
that not having written save for myself alone and regarding,
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will There are souls who weep for joy to nd their state
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o f this matter than the rst but not contenting thems elv es
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rigorous way .
their rst Objection that there are not so many good books
o n this subject as they imagine seeing that one cannot
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Rules of the Orders and in the lives o f the Fath ers I would .
also reply that that whi ch is to day called the main road con
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hidden treasure .
sp eci al treatis es on the subject as there are to day notably -
are to day -
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him that when I point him to a way which has b een opened
up from t he b eginning by H eaven and by men I d o no t
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were not being led astray when they followed their inspira
tions .
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And s o you too, will no w be more free, more
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pro mising me s o happy a state I have never obeyed yo u
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our obligations .
God
P hi lothea Y es F ather
. I put myself before God with
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nothing ?
P hilothea S ome triing thoughts may indeed have
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but here is the general rule you should keep When you .
nothing, des iring nothing during that time see ing that ,
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having God you have all things F or P hilothea if you.
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and if you knew in your prayer all that the D octors and
Fathers of the Church have ever known on this subject ,
palace .
and who had had the goodness to wait for her s o long ,
himself .
suppose that the king seeing her do all this had not a
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of that P hilothea ?
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scale and is the epitome of the W orld and the being for ,
o f grace ?
res ources of his art s o that you could not te ar your eyes
away from it so greatly were you ravished by the be auty
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position and all its other be auties ; yet I am quite sure that
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if you were very cold your picture of the sun would not
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it choose ?
D i rector You already know the facts of your creation
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of Go d .
I rejoice but above all becaus e Thou art God " Repeat
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lect yourself better for except for that you will not think
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0 Jesus "
I rejoice that Thou art the Only S on of the
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Eternal Father that Thou art as wise as He is as powerful
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to Thy Father .
thanks be rendered unto Thee in ti me and in eternity .
the soul :
Our F ather which art in H ea ven Yea my God " Thou .
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God " I bless Thee for all those who have never blas phemed
Thee who will never blaspheme Thee on e arth Or in hell
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become stronger in this way and have a cquired some ,
Thou art all mine and I am all Thine "or O Goodness "
my one true L ight " L ove will supply you with a hundred
other aspirations o f this kind which will serve as s o many
impulses to embra ce God more closely But, P hilothe a .
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stood one Veni S ancte S p iri tus will be too long for you
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united to Him .
petty preparations .
not only by His grace and His virtue but also because ,
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My G o d "I am here to gaze on nothing but Thee ;
to desire nothing but Thee to remind myself of nothing
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order that you may not think you have remained in futile
idleness in your oratory If yo u were courageous it
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would sufce if you made this act once But it will all .
acts .
And more than that you have the will to pray you prepare
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you were to say to him : S ire " I believe that you are here
Faith is the eye with which one sees God and if one rmly ,
more solid and admirable act than any you would know
how to make of yourself The reason i s that your simple.
this faith .
declared that from that time forth it does not wish to live
o r to act except fo r God and i n the pre s ence of God ;
very well what you believed and what you promised Him .
F o r those who renew the same acts again and again are
apt to grow tired of saying to God : L ord " remember the
a greement I entered into with Thee and do not regard
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more on their own a cts than o n God ; they think they are
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but Him i n all your a cts then you may put your inquietude
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I wish nothing I seek nothing but Him
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that a person who was l azy or who had even gone to sleep ,
intention .
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and is nothing but acting or contemplating in virtue of the
act of faith o ne has previously made of believing in a
present God and in the purpose o ne has formed of seeing
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all the acts of faith humility and charity the soul has
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and that in God the soul has happily found the end it
sought by all other means .
vision of God ?
D i rector The vision of G o d P hilothea will begin to
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form itself in you from the rst two o r three days in which
you make your afrmation in the way I have shown you .
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said that if all the world were full of books and all cre atures ,
i nto ink all that would not s ufce to expl ain one solitary
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more from these few words than all the language of men
and angels could express the more that we rest in God s
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source of all good and who walk with God without ever
looking at Him .
carry some subject for medit ation into your prayer nor ,
that which you re ad will pass uncons ciously into your will ,
you h ave been in the habit of using during the d ay, I will
now only allow you two o r three very brief prayers as if
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ejacul ations But you will not us e them in the way you
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will let your spirit fall back o n its rst thoughts and you ,
rel axes all his effort s and refres hes himself at his ease .
Him whom we love But for those who have passed the
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soul to love and are no longer needed now that it does love
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must rmly believe that each word and act of Jesus Christ
possesses innite merits which all the efforts of o ur reason
would be powerless to attain ; after a s imple representa
tion our silence which is nothing but a result o f the faith
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if I said (but without saying it) My God " ,who but Thou
can know the glory of this fast o r how much Jesus Christ
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perfection of Go d is God all the s ame i n s o far as our
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p tive nds afterwards that he has considered the good
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the soul with the power with which He wishes to act and
which do not cre ate the tran q uillity, attention and silence ,
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which dispose the soul to receive H is D ivine messages .
The bride would gain more from the king and would ,
You can gather P hilothe a, from all that has been said
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them "
D i rector D o no t s ay
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interruption .
from seeing light and that for two reasons : rst because
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in t he business of life .
the will this man walks speaks sees hears and makes
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himself .
that we do not dissipate our soul s energy either by negli
gence or by over eagerness in what we do and that the
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enjoyment of God s presence .
can truly ll it and that even if it were lled w ith all that
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G od has made it would always be empty if it were
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are the purer the more ardent and more tranquil will
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the power of the d evil who makes his gre atest assaults o n
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in order that it may not attach itself to any but one sole
object it constantly escapes and wanders away seeking
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and such as you may receive will not make such a deep
impression on your spirit, and will not have the power to
distract it with foolish and useless things Yo u will .
you will be your host your guest and your sweet and
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perpetual peace ; and that the more for love of Him you
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s hut the door on the senses and prevent them from coming
you will s ee everything for Him and in Him ; and the more
He will be the guardian of your ears to the end that every
thing you hear will cause you to seek Him and bless
Him And nally He will have a special care o f your
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divided into two parts ; the one is animal and is called the
lower part the other is re ason able and is called the higher
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have seen something the i mage o f that which you have seen
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their material .
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The second inward sense is the im aginati on or phantasy ,
which are all really the same thing F or example you have
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just seen two men ; their images pass through the eyes
into the general s ense and at once the imagination seizing
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and all that the judgment has judged good or bad And .
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ees from d eath and in S hort loves all that which serves
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i ts subsis tence and i ts pleas ure and detes ts eve ryt hing
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by reasoning the true from the false and the good from the ,
the true and the good by gross images and judge things ,
what they are in their own n ature and then when that is , ,
will alone which makes all the acts of body and soul good
o r b a d a ccording as by its natural freedom it directs
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and not human and cannot render him either good or evil
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and that the appetite forms from them its passions and
its movements That then the understanding reasons o n
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that which happens in the lower part and the will decide s ,
tion and training o f the soul must rst begin in the outward
senses and o n the wise management of those senses depends
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avoid.
imperfection .
But two things give me courage to set out along the way
o f contemplation : rst that I have a good guide in you ;
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T he doctri ne of a ando nment here s et forth Mal aval i s not to b e by
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s us ected as q ui eti s ti c I t i s s tri ctl i n harmon
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i th th e
uri cati on yw p
o f memor y
and und ers tandi ng taught b y S t John of t he Cross i n The
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with out reco gnizing it thus expl aining it to its elf And so
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But even when the soul does not experience these acts
it does no t cease to be in contemplation because con ,
fruits from such prayer ; for when need arises it has now ,
doctrine of others .
see which s i gni es as far as I can judge that in order to
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who tastes H im well loses his taste for every other thing
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others who know all that their D irectors and their books
can teach them on this matter and who yet do not go fo r
ward with assurance But G o d is S O good that He some
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may have only one memory Never has the soul been .
God is the cause o f all the evil and confusion in the world ,
ceremonial .
deliver all his discourses and carry out all his activiti es
as if that sage were listening t o him and looking at him
the Church with all their morti cations would have been
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that one should not always love Him whom one is always
regarding .
once afterwards .
t o help me .
well and God who is here more parti cularly and more
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to your progress .
App robation f
o the D octors
d es Carmes .
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contemplation for I shall treat it alone without dealing
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most app reci ated by the most spiritual and the most
d etache d both in the world and in t he Clois te r Thi s is
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t ime ago that it had been trans lated into Italian S eeing .
God alone knows the good this littl e book has done and ,
Things have been done and said about this little book which
p eople would nd it difcul t to believe The clearness .
could do eas ily that whi ch they could und ers tand easily ,
have turned their displeas ure agains t this book and have
thought t hat it deceived them becaus e they deceived
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constraint i n which they had been held for long agai nst
their attrai t and who being in doubt beforehand as to the
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happier us e than the mselves of this pra ctice and this has ,
P hi lothea Your
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to s ay to Him
L ord "teach Thou me " For the teacher of whom
Thou art not the t eacher who does not draw his light from
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Him better .
That is why even although there are many who love G od,
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there are few who attain to pure love for pure love of ,
I thank Thee 0 Father said the Saviour of the
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men and women could supply the humbl e with the water
o f knowledge ; whil e the humble in exchange could give
It is thus that the humble lead the lea rned to God and ,
the learned pour the light of God into the spirits of the
S imple ; the rst communicating His unction the second ,
extreme love might well have led to the truth of her state
ment being doubted if her hearers had been led by reason
which examines everything rather than by charity which
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believes everything .
weak to triumph those humble souls who seek Him in
spirit and in truth without artice o r self interest rst
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execute them .
being s o instructed .
thus recognized .
necessary for our state They put a word into our souls
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His holy will must always be your teacher and even after ,
not having yet understood that they were only created for
G o d dare to think it strange that we S hould always think
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what could dis turb me seeing that I carry joy and peace
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in my soul ?
D i rector If the words of the Apostle are true , that
where the S pirit o f God is there is freedomho w ca n they
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Yo u are like those wise physici ans who touch certain parts
o f the body to which the invalid himself would not have
reply Yes " It was there that I felt the pain a reply
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from this that love of creatures will stil l make itself felt
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and by an i mitation of nature love of G od will also make
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the object known which being very pure and very spiritual
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only leaves the spirit o f love and not the consc iousness of
it There are certai n substances P hilothea which burn
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without love .
that the S aints had never possessed it for they were often ,
such a state res embles those invalids who are not aware of
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anything else .
the s ame way From the time that the presence of God
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But the will embraces Him all hidden and i nco mpre ,
, e to
know G od more perfectly and with a knowledge which ,
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S t Bonaventura calls affective and experimental
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love and light are so intermingled that one might almost
say the understanding wished to love God while the will ,
faculties s eem to be but one : all love is light and all light
is love The l ambs know their mothers by instinct and
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hens ib l e and ine ffabl e The will too has its share in
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enjoyment .
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all love human and D ivine exercises itself through the will
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you is very true that the whole of your soul is just as much
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universal and more lofty than the senses it has more p o wer ,
this act by which I say God is and which has pass ed into
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when one calls this act a confused act the term confused ,
matters of which s he treats are for the most part high and
exalted and her doctrine is that of he aven rather than
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except certain very humble souls they are indeed very
few who taking prot from everything humbling them
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for those things they do not und erstand but which others ,
to two acts and two things at the same time even although ,
standing being the motive power the will and the memory ,
So rt o f image is a suspension .
drowsiness and a hundred other names which merely
mark their own inquietude or little intelligence .
active ?
D i rector To be pas sive is to receive something in
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help of which the soul produces actions just and agree able
to God We s ay als o that it is p as s ive as regards faith
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Him with its own love adores Him praises Him glories
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more reason can the soul act by its own actions in all the
states of grace however lofty they can possibly be and it
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This p y p w
long and erfectl orthodox assage, i th i ts careful d is crimi na
ti ons , ought to b e enough by
i ts elf to d efend Mal aval from th e charge of
q uieti sm p p w
I t s tates the ri nci les hi ch govern the hole of his t eachi ng ;
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and s hould b e borne i n mi nd w
hen jud gi ng t he si gnicance of i solated
references to p ass i ve ra er p y .
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but that following this gift o r grace they act love think , , ,
But alas "my Father how this teaching bars the way
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of each o ne .
God had pardoned his sins ; and that was one of the things
he wished to know from his sister who appeared to him ,
after her death bearing the marks of her glory and her joy .
end must work out his salvation with fear and trembling .
if the just knew whence the spirit came which moves them
and impels them they would know as s uredly that it was
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contemplation .
do not feel the pricks of the world and never turn away
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myself but for many others Because for all the subtlety
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truth does not itself teach them And truth never teaches .
D esire fo r the one and fo r the other with all your heart
the plenitude of Go d for which such people wish to sub,
may make them taste in the spirit of truth that which has
become in their eyes a thing o f bitterness and reproach .
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T o tas te t hat w
hi ch G o d is not refers to the D i on s i an negati ve y
path of cont em lati on, as o p
os ed to th e ors hi pp
of G o d as revealed i n w p
b
His attri utes and orks w .
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known to the people of Israel rather by a title of power ,
that He was about to overthrow the arti ces and the power
o f P haraoh ? But He s ays nevertheless in o ne word by ,
name and that is that it signies the present and not the
, ,
their actions and yet not passing away when they pas s
,
and not awaiting anyt hing more perfect when they are
still to come .
Him beloved ?
Yo u have seen by the teaching we have established ,
the world which can call its elf H e who is ; there are no
thoughts whose terms respond to so high and lofty an
idea and yet, as I have said to you this idea, in dying
, ,
thing real and permanent which lls the soul with the
being of God in a very excellent way and which embra ces ,
o f knowledge , and s o this thought of G o d is the taste ,
we were b efore .
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it is an indispensable necessity to make use of a nite
term ; but the intention and the signicance perfect o ur
object ; and grace , while allowing the intention and s i g
ni cance t o d i e away leaves the obj ect in i ts plenitude
, .
they know of God the most p erfect and the most excellent
,
Being they can conceive and they bas e their belief o n this
,
in particular .
says he must love God above all things with all his he art ,
and with all his soul and with all his strength ? It doe s
not add because He is good o r because H e is holy but
, , ,
to decla re the ineffable things of the D i vine has used exp res ,
to D ivine silence .
contrary that the more God disguised Hims elf the more
, ,
humble in spirit .
I always feel a gentle love for Our L ord Jesus Christ ; and
I can call this love my earthly P aradise in such a way that
my soul is continuously steeped and soaked in sweetness .
words of the Gospel and chiey those which fell from the
,
1
Thi s di alo gue i s cruci al fo r the unders tandi ng of Mal aval s doctri ne
.
b
T he mai n charge ro ught agai ns t hi m by
B os s uet was t hat o f i gno ri ng the
w y
h umamty o f Ch ri s t : an accus atio n to hi c h all m s ti cs o f the theo centri c
typ e g t h e author o f t h e C loud of Unknowi ng and even S t Jo hn o f t he
e . . .
p
Cros s l ay t hems elves o en i n t h ei r mo re unguard ed utterances M alaval s
.
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D IALO G UE V 1 37
open the eyes of our souls And as the clay fell when .
, , ,
the one must leave it the other must never leave it There
, .
are good but one may be more protable than the other
, ,
they have within them the habit of faith and while they ,
no longer any but one and the same P erson ; it i s here that
this humanity is most precious most resplendent and , ,
things are the food of the soul but they are not its life , .
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intercourse Wi th Jesus Christ of whom they speak s o ,
hearts in peace .
self
, ,
D ivinity ?
I t is good to be here said S t P eter on Mount Tabo r,
, .
says Our L ord i n John xvi the Comforter will not come ,
they were not yet sufciently detached from that which was
sensible in the person of Jesus Christ N evertheless I tell .
y ou th e t r uth ; i t i s ex p edi e n t f y
or ou th a t I g o a w a y And S t . .
the Word I dwell in the esh among y ou, but I do not wish
,
that y ou should con tin ue to love Me after the flesh and con ten t
y ou rs el ve s w i t h t hi s m i lk of y M s en s i b le p re se nc e Y o u .
f y
o r ou th a t I go a w a y b e ca us e ,if I d i d n ot g o th e H oly ,
car al
n manner you will never be cap able o f recei vi ng My
S p i ri t
.
You see that sadness had lled the hearts of the Apostles
because the humanity of Jesus Chris t was separated from
them ; and yet this separation was a necessary disposition
to allow the D ivinit y to come to them Thus when the .
esh is cast down and when all the approaches of the soul
are shut to the conside ation of s ensible thi ngs even al
r
though these may be good and holy then God nds in
the so ul a temple worthy of Hi mself There is then no .
and varies from time to time he never nds the true way ,
aid which could lead us to ete rnal life and He has merited
,
the more living your faith the more yo u will enter into ,
God is wi thin y ou .
pray ; for you will pray far b etter in conjunction with Him
than separated from Him But you do separate yourself .
all sufcientl y
P hi lothea But someone might s ay Father that the
.
, ,
forth over us .
from Him .
Himself is he not suf ciently united ? Indeed o ne ,
every moment .
S our ce for the rivulets it leave s the xed and loving regard
,
H ow we are to interp ret this say ing, that we mus t p ut ourse ves l
l
i n the owes t p l ace and wai t ti ll
God raises us .
W hat the drynesses are which obl ige the sou l to return to
medi tation.
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most solid judges are those learned men who have read
and digested such matters The last are the experi .
explain it to others .
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practise the prayer of recollection may fall insensibly into
pride and may i magine they are above their fellows ?
,
does not bear such evil fruit ; but it may be the vice of those
who pra ctise praye r with imperfection Those who pray .
keep them long out o f the way in which God had put
them ; the business of the S uperior be ing to edify and not to
destroy ; to follow God in souls and not to make them ,
not be lost .
man was not made for the S abbath but that the S abbath
,
God ; dus t lies on the ground but when the wind blows the
,
their way ; for otherwise the will would be the sport of the
Evil One and sometimes even of nature itself diverting
, ,
But what do you say of those souls who suffer such great
dryness that they c annot even realize God P resent ?
S hould they not then return humbly to meditation ?
D i rector There are great drynesses even in the way of
.
strains itself it goes over and over its material for medita
,
feet sometimes sink down and bring back nothing but mud .
God .
templ ati on of God was a xed state for certain souls did ,
(ii ) W hether a soul mus t have long p ractised medi tation before
advancing to contem p la tion .
the order setting those rst who have come last and giving
, ,
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to suffer ; but when there comes a time to refuse the senses
many little diversions which before amused them and ,
less feeling .
farther than many others who are more mortied and more
penitent Nevertheless those austere souls are not yet
.
,
the subjection of the body to the last know well that once ,
the spirit is conquered and humbled by this abstraction
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purify the self love one has for those penances then later
-
wo rthy of compassion .
souls must consider wisely that spirit and body must not
be consumed at the same time nor the strength be ,
through application .
morti cation and never tell me that you die for love of
may by its elf pass for prayer when it is voluntary and when
it is a ccompanied by love S o much s o P hilothea that
. , ,
His words may not fall into hearts which would allow them
to be stied Imitation i s the fruit of meditation and
.
,
sees some who make most progress in least time and others ,
no t
. The simpl e who have never been capabl e of meditat
,
would like to put the whole world into the way of con
t empl ati o n.But there are many people who are not
capable of holding themselves long in the presence of God .
men love evil better than good : most of those who love
good perform it imp erfectly And one sees an innite
.
to their state " Our good God makes vocations while men
,
of reason .
must al ways be " One often sees that when those under
direction would like to follow the attrai t of G o d those who ,
matters the dir ectors are more often to blame than the
souls they direct ; they S hould have more knowledge and
more experi en ce of the ways of God ; they should no longer
di rectly oppose the Holy S pirit who has seen t to com ,
wills are utterly opposed to this state ; and pray God that
He may free them o f their passions and that He will ,
restless and if exterior works and pen ance have not rst
,
in the esh and not to have liberty for its oper ations .
sense you have the more blamewo rthy you will be if you
,
that there are so few who enter on this way The multitude .
as a rule .
when the soul receives all that it reads and all that it ,
several years with those words P ater a t volun tas tua sicat
,
selves they know that those are the two highest excel
,
even in this world and above all things Him who is all ,
.
He will regale Himself with that just man and that just ,
.
, ,
i n the soul by medi ta tion would remain imp erfect and would ,
be of less use to the soul wi thout the end and the repose of _
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sigh p erhaps for the rep ose of con temp la ti on and y ou do well , .
of God who goes ahead o f the souls that seek Him and
, ,
God s dealings with men are reasonable and humane ,
After all this fa cility can deceive no one ; I take the dis
,
had lis tened to Him well ; their interior silence was more
fruitful than o ur speech and all that they have written
,
the things He has done and the things He has said but ,
not sufciently admiring Him who has done and said them .
quote here word for word should silenc e all such Ob jec
, ,
this i llus tra tion I f a s ta tue which i ts sculp tor had set up
.
p p
re a re som e de vou t a ec ti ons to occu py th ei r m in ds B u t .
1
AS p ani s h J es ui t o f th e p os t- Teresan peri od , who wro te u p on mys ti cal
p y
ra er. T he p as sage o ccurs in vol . ii i, cap . 1i , s ect . 3 of his D e Oratione .
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after they have been long p ractised and sui ciently instructed
and are admi tted to grea t fami li ari ty wi th God, then they
with the t ruth stat ed by such people but they would not ,
of God keeps int erior silence in the powers of its love For .
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G od ; from tender and material affections with which we
think to hold God as with a holy grapnel while He would ,
will of G o d 1
.
1
This s pl endi d and charact eri s ti c o ut bu t whi
rs t rs , ch may s eem at
s i ght exces s i ve, d oes not real l go e o y b y nd th
e cl as s i c d o ctri ne of
Chr1s t1 an mys trci s m Cf the Cloud of Unknowing, cap vi i, o r S t Jo hn
. . . .
not rul e this path the soul would consume itself in a short
,
and as souls who are truly called soon taste the fruits o f
this prayer so those who are not thus called soon feel the
,
the Gospel A good tree cannot b ring forth evil frui t nei ther
, ,
into the very heart of God ; who will give you everything
y u may have abandoned
o accompanied with power,
and that it should forget all that it had learned That then .
, ,
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guiding its elf by the principles it had formulated all its ,
souls who would not give one ray of this luminous darkness
for all the knowledge of the universe ; and God who cannot ,
, ,
, ,
cept i b l e manner .
thing which is not God even fro m His graces and favours
, ,
ii
( ) H ow one shoul d us e voca l p ray er .
acts and thus obscure and stie the general act and p ar
, ,
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seeking in mystical books P hilothea without necessity and
, ,
way of co ntemplation ?
Di rector The farther prayer i s removed from the
.
said that great sorrows are dumb , and it is true that all
the passions when they arrive at their height speak very
, ,
little or not at all ; that is to say if the he art being over full ,
-
possesses the soul in such a way that it often does not leave
it liberty either to think or to speak The voice was only .
has some difculty in ope ning its mouth to tell God that
which He already knows and that which the heart has
,
i names oneself by G o d .
L ord " said the leper I f thou wilt thou cans t make me clean "
, ,
the heart is lled with love and faith than long prayers
uttered by a l anguishing and distracted spirit .
ever to b e b ri ef (R ule of S t
. B en edi ct, cap x ) In. fact , . .
to say not only by the spirit but also by the esh and
, ,
g re a tly j
re oi ceth ; and wi th my s ong wi ll I p ra is e H i m The .
Recap i tu ationl f
o the whole ma tter of conte mp lation wi th
l
sp eci al exp ana tions .
joy, which for all that are neither acts nor different
movements ; but a melting up and gushing forth of the
love of G od Nevertheless the highest point of this
.
,
Him the will desires Him the memory recalls Him the
, , ,
1
I n readmg th e w w
hol e o f th e T elft h D i alogue, i th i ts fervent and w
b p
eauti ful d es cri ti ons o f th e achi eved contem l ati ve s tat e, we h ave to p
b
remem er th at M alaval i s no l onger i ns tructi n g th e b egmn er, or t h e
p ro ci ent , b ut gi vi ng a p
i cture o f th e ni s hed ro d uct ; t h e es ta li s hed p b
p p y
th eo ath eti c li fe o f th e man o f ra er wh o h as reach ed uni o n W i th G o d
"
.
p
W ere th es e com aris o ns i ntend ed t o b e of general a li cati on to all pp '
reco ll ect ed
"
so uls , th e yw
o ul d c ert ai nl b e exces s ive y
B ut t hi s i s not .
th e auth or s meaning
.
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its quality either makes it love G od or mistrust every
'
to ,
awaken this id ea of God and they warn the soul that God
,
one nds habits even in those who S leep and such hab its ,
which is the eye of the soul just as the will i s the eye o f
,
God with all our strength and with all the capacity of o ur
hearts ; the L aw of God commands us to do this and it ,
power which can only love things in the way the under
standing represents them to it If therefore the under .
, ,
fore the most perfect the more that through the repos e
, ,
light with the same goodn ess with which He makes the
,
towards the unive rsal Good ; no one can give save that
which he has and no individual being ca n communicate
,
while the masons merely deal with the stones and other
materi als .
not hinder its effect produces love just as the light of the
,
iname love .
ing certain marks which have been left along the roadside,
would out of caprice rub out and do away with those
, ,
a thousand errors .
world But this faith P hil othea i s not a simple acq uies
.
, ,
reas oning for then it would be clear and its object would
, ,
o f obs curi t y it sover eignly detaches the soul from all that
obs cure ?
D i rector Faith always rem ains obscure because of its
.
has the soul the certitude and the co nv1ct1on of that which
i t believes Much more then P hilothea a greater light
.
, , ,
1
. y
Cf D i on s i us the Areo pag1te, D e My s ttca Theol ogta, I, I , and 3
T h e D ivme D ark i s naugh t el s e b ut th at 1nacc ess rb l e L 1gh t h erei n t h e w
L ord 1 5 s aid to d ell
w .
D IA L OG U E X I I 2 37
ever doubts that the whole is gre ater than the part o r ,
holds that one and the same thing can be and not be ?
Thus by the intelligence of the Holy S pirit which is
, ,
the Father begets the S on and all the other truths o f the
,
perfect the soul in matters o f faith the more the just man
,
exercises faith the more he attra cts the riches of this gift,
,
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which was only given for this end This is the doctrine .
that those who are near the fountain should die of thirst ;
yet if some drink of this water which they possess in ,
o f G o d with delity .
will and my req ues ts ; all are Thine use them as Thine own ,
.
of Himself .
grant them o r refus e them
L ord says a soul to . ,
"
or refuse it I wish nothing but Thyself
. Thus the .
drive me from His holy presence But how can this same.
single thought she said to Him one day Ah "L ord "
,
,
his possess ions and all his prep aration with him S t . .
as he thought best
AS for me
. s aid the saint I would
, ,
has the jewel God has given him of a loving presence and ,
In a word not only all the mysteries of faith but all the
,
always for all that the same Victim and the s ame S acrice
, ,
.
they will be absorbed into it and thus our whole life will
,
eyes of God and every o ne may ask for his own annihila
,
to it to est ablish itself for it feels its elf urged towards this
,
2 52 S ECOND TREATI S E
tranquil solicitude is then its most p erfect state Very .
who has it ?
D i rector The purer it is the l ess perceptible it i s
.
, The .
The ray of the sun which is too visible has found atoms
in the air which have troubled i ts purity ; when it i s quite
pure o ne can hardly s ee it at all Thus from the time .
,
action or suffering .
was before .
remembers G o d ?
D i rector The oblivion may be complete a s regards all
.
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is vast and great ; it is for Him to lead you along its paths
as it pleases Him Be faithful to God and God will be
.
,
I pray God that you may ever draw nearer and nearer
to Him while moving ever farther and farther away from
,
yourself .
App robati on f
o the D octors
N . P I GNAY
M . H UMB EL OT