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Table of Contents
OPENERS ..................................................................................................................................................... 4
RELATIONSHIP OPENERS ............................................................................................................................. 5

Cute Couple Opener ( ijjjji).................................................................................................................... 5
Never Be Couple Opener (ijjjji, Tyler Durden) ...................................................................................... 5
Seattle GF Opener (Tyler Durden)......................................................................................................... 6
Jealous GF Opener (Style) ..................................................................................................................... 7
Tattoo Opener......................................................................................................................................... 9
Twin Brothers (Ross Jefferies) ............................................................................................................... 9
Who Lies More Opener (Chris Rock version) ...................................................................................... 10
Text Message Break-Up (LXSarging)................................................................................................... 10
OTHER OPENERS ....................................................................................................................................... 11
Are You Shy Opener (craigsd).............................................................................................................. 11
David Bowie (Tyler Durden) ................................................................................................................ 11
The Fan Club Opener (Thundercat) ..................................................................................................... 11
I Love You Opener (Tyler Durden)....................................................................................................... 12
Plant And Stare Opener (Tyler Durden) .............................................................................................. 13
Weather Opener (Eddy)........................................................................................................................ 14
ROUTINES ................................................................................................................................................. 15
KISS AND NUMBER CLOSE ROUTINES ....................................................................................................... 16

Kissing Grade Close (Swingcat)........................................................................................................... 16
The Question Game (Mystery).............................................................................................................. 16
Steal a Kiss Routine.............................................................................................................................. 18
STORIES..................................................................................................................................................... 21
Gay Cats Routine (StyleChild03 and Wilder)....................................................................................... 21
Getting PUed Routine (Nightblue) ....................................................................................................... 22
I stole a girls girlfriend (dahunter)....................................................................................................... 23
Pimp Daddy Routine (Mystery) ............................................................................................................ 24
Third Grade Girlfriend Routine (Arcane) ............................................................................................ 24
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Baby Rabbitsicles (Magnus) ................................................................................................................. 26

Blind Date story (Dino) ........................................................................................................................ 26
Polish Rabbit Stew (Magnus) ............................................................................................................... 27
Psycho Driver DHV (Tommy W) .......................................................................................................... 27
Russian Hamster (Magnus) .................................................................................................................. 28
OTHER ROUTINES...................................................................................................................................... 30
Russian Hamster (Magnus) .................................................................................................................. 30
Be Real Routine .................................................................................................................................... 30
Boyfriend Destroyer Routine (Mystery)................................................................................................ 31
Females As Sexual Predators Routine (Style) ...................................................................................... 32
Frame Reversal Routine (David DeAngelo from Cliffs List 7/4/04)..................................................... 32
G-String Routine (Nightblue) ............................................................................................................... 32
Guy/Girl Name Routine (Twentysix) .................................................................................................... 33
Heaven/Hell routine (HelmutS) ............................................................................................................ 33
Jealous Boyfriend Routine (ZenDragon).............................................................................................. 34
Jealous Cat (BadPirate) ....................................................................................................................... 35
Masturbating In Shower Routine.......................................................................................................... 35
Nexting Routine (ThugStyle2G)............................................................................................................ 36
PVC Devil Outfit Routine (Tyler Durden) ............................................................................................ 37
She'll remember your name routine (Wilder) ....................................................................................... 37
Wanna Fight Routine............................................................................................................................ 38
GAMES ....................................................................................................................................................... 39
Fuck Marry Kill Game (TwentySix) ..................................................................................................... 40

Kissing Games (Magnus)...................................................................................................................... 42
Lying Game (Ryobi Version) ................................................................................................................ 43
The Lying Game (Braid_ged) ............................................................................................................... 44
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Relationship openers
CUTE COUPLE OPENER ( IJJJJI)
When I see a guy and a girl talking, I often walk over and say "You are such a
cute couple!" to make the girl deny they are together and follow up with "But you
are so cute together, he is the perfect guy for you, look he is even well
dressed/good looking/fit/tanned" and keep at it until she starts moving away
from the poor guy in denial :)
Source: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-
bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=5&mn=1087981847158370
NEVER BE COUPLE OPENER (IJJJJI, TYLER DURDEN)
You: Aww - you are soo cute.. but you make me SO SAD!
HB: WHY?
(pause with puppy dog face)
You: Cos we could NEVER EVER be a couple!
HB: WHYYY???
You: Nooo.. we are too similar.. IMAGINE, we would be SO IN LOVE..

and the next moment, we would be fighting and screaming and throwing
things.. and then we would have HOT MAKE UP SEX all over the place..
and then fight, makeup sex, fight, make up sex.. after a week we would
both be in psychiatric care due to emotional drainage!
[can also be used as a routine later on]
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SEATTLE GF OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)
"Hey guys, I need an opinion. My friend met this girl in Seattle, and they really hit it
off. They wound up hooking up on the first night, and he even hung out with her
in L.A. over the next week. So he's up visiting her in Seattle last week, and they're
out on a walk. He takes a few pictures of them together. Like really cute ones
with them together. Some of them they're just hanging out, and a few of them
they're like kissing or whatever while they're out walking. Anyway, the next
morning he wakes up, and checks his camera. He looks at the pictures, and he
sees that she's woken up before him and gone into it and deleted the pictures
where they're kissing, and left the ones where they're just hanging out. He goes to
her and says 'Are you psycho? Why are you going into my camera?' She says its
because she thought she looked bad in the pictures, and didn't want him to
have them. But he can't figure out if she's psycho or if its legit that for girls they just
hate having pictures out there where she doesn't look good. He just really liked
them because he likes her and doesn't judge the pics like that."
The girls will either say:
"It's totally natural. I hate it when pictures make me look bad, especially with a
digital camera where you can just delete them and take more." (They also
sometimes say "But he's only known her a few months. I wouldn't do that on a
guy I just met.")
-or-
"She has a boyfriend!"
Your immediate reply would be "He doesn't care about that. He's busy. He just
doesn't want her deleting his pics! :)"
P.S.: I like encoporating romantic stories about people hooking up the first night
they met because they hit it off really well, so as to demonstrate to the girl that
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you aren't judgemental about people being spontaneous.
JEALOUS GF OPENER (STYLE)
This is an opener I made up and have been using. It is FIELD TESTED so MANY
times. And, IMHO, it is gold. Why is it gold? Because not only does it open but, for
newbies here, it gets the girls talking for a good ten minutes. I love this opener,
and it almost pains me to set it loose on the world. But at the same time if
something is good and effective, it pains me not to share it here. So please, the
T&T section has been pretty weak these days: share what's working for you!
Anyway, the Jealous Girlfriend Opener works best in groups with more than one
woman.
And, people like Rio should especially LOVE this, because not only does it open,
but it screens. You will quickly see by the responses who in this group you want to
avoid.
***
Style: Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something. I'm trying to give my
friend over there advice, but we're just a bunch of guys and not qualified
to comment on these matters.
HBs: What?
Style: Okay, see Wing over there. Well, he has been dating a girl for three
months. And she just moved in with him. Now, this is a two part question.
So, imagine you've been dating someone for three months. And he is still
friends with his old girlfriend from college. How do you feel about that?
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HBs: blah blah blah are they just friends blah blah blah
Style: Yes, they're JUST friends. There's nothing else going on. They talk like once
a week at most.
HBs: I think it's fine/I don't think they should be talking/whatever
Style: Okay, now let's say that he has a drawer in his apartment. And in that
drawer he keeps all of his old photographs and letters. Now, some of
those letters happen to be from ex'es and some of the photographs
happen to be with ex'es.
HBs: blah blah blah concerned comment blah blah question
Style: It's not like he ever looks at them. They are just there, like old souvenirs and
memories of his past.
HBs: I think it's fine/I think he should put them away in a closet/He should
destroy them/whatever
Style: Okay, the reason I'm asking is because WING's girlfriend says doesn't want
him to talk to his ex from college at all. She wants him to cut it off
completely. And she wants him to destroy all of his old photos and letters
from ex'es. She says it's just holding onto the past, and he should let go
of it now. Personally, I thought it was extreme and a bit insecure. But what
do I know. I'm a guy. And, as we all know, guys think differently from girls...
From here, you can transition into Maddash's Romance Novel routine if you want
or the opener about how men and women think differently..
It's a great opener because:
A. Women love talking about relationships.
B. You can neg them when they get all excited to talk about it and say things like,
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"Oh my God, it's like the View here" (great line to use anyway).
C. It can last a good 15 minutes as they all chime in. (If guys are there, I usually
say, "What the hell, let's get your opinion too.")
D. You screen out the jealous psychos who think your friend should not talk to his
ex and destroy his old photos. You'd be surprised how much the answers tell you
about the girls in the set.
[from Style's "Introducting...The Jealous Girlfriend Opener" thread]
TATTOO OPENER
You: Hey guys, would you ever get a Tattoo?
Her: blah blah blah
You: Here’s the deal… my nineteen-year-old sister wants to get her boyfriends
name tattooed on her shoulder.
Her: no, no don't let her do it
You: See that’s the problem she's really strong headed and when I tell her not
to get the tattoo it just makes her want to get it even more. How do I deal
with that and let her really know its mistake?
TWIN BROTHERS (ROSS JEFFERIES)
You're at a party or a club and you meet twin brothers; they are absoutely
identical, physically.
[1] ONE of them has the best hands of any guy you've ever met. The other is an
incredible dancer. Which one do you pick?
[2] Same scenario. Again, the two guys are identical. One makes you laugh
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more than anyone you've ever met. The other is the most incredible kisser you
could ever in a lifetime encounter.
Which one do you pick?
[3] Same scenario: One guy has more money than Bill Gates. The other makes
you feel like you are the most beautiful, desirable woman who ever walked the
face of the planet. Which do you pick?
(It’d probably be best to make up some sort of back-story for this)
WHO LIES MORE OPENER (CHRIS ROCK VERSION)
You: Hey guys, I need a female opinion – who lies more Guys or Girls??
Her: blah blah blah
You: The way I see it girls the tell the small lies like “your ass doesn’t look fat in
those pants” but girls, they tell the big ones... like... “Its your baby!”
TEXT MESSAGE BREAK-UP (LXSARGING)
You: Is it OK to breakup with someone with a text message?
(Then make up a good back-story for this)
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ARE YOU SHY OPENER (CRAIGSD)
You: Are you guys shy? I’ve been standing here talking to my friend for like 5
minutes now and you still haven’t said “hi”.
DAVID BOWIE (TYLER DURDEN)
You: Hey guys [not GIRLS], I need a female opinion. Do girls think [not do YOU
think] the rock star David Bowie is hot?
Her: (blah, blah, blah)
You: Get this... my roommate’s little sister, she’s 7 and half years old, has a
HUGE picture of David Bowie on her wall. I’m not talking an 8x10; I’m
talking a 4-foot by 6-foot POSTER! It’s like the first thing she sees when she
wakes up in the morning. David Bowie is a freaky looking OLD MAN! She’s
like 7 and he’s like 70. I’m seriously worried about my roommate’s little
sister...
***
variation:
Using Marylin Manson instead of David Bowie (credit to Pnutt)
THE FAN CLUB OPENER (THUNDERCAT)
This is one where you paint your target as your ultimate fan who borderlines on
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stalking you. This works best for women who are by themselves, or when you’ve
isolated a woman into talking to you by herself.
You: “Hey, you like music?”
Her: “Yeah.”
You: “I’ve always wanted to be a musician. What kind of music you like?”
Her: blah, blah
You: “Yeah, me too! I’d be the most famous <her favorite type of music>
musician ever! And you, you can be the president of my fan club. It’d be
great. You could follow me around asking for my autograph, tell everyone
how sexy I am, and no matter what I do, you can act like itÆs the
greatest thing you’ve ever seen! But the minute you start following me to
my home and asking to have my baby is the minute I have to fire you, so
you better be good and just admire me from afar.”
You can create variations of this opener to be a “movie” star or a “sports” star or
what have you, but you basically want to cast yourself as someone of immense
value, and your target as someone who is obsessed with you. It’s a fun way to
instantly create interest within your target. Even if she doesn’t go along with it, it’ll
set the stage for further interactions.
Source: “The Art of Approaching” by Thundercat
I LOVE YOU OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)
(I don't always open with this, but more often use EARLY in the sarge.. it conveys
that you are willing to lie to her to get down her pants, which she will LOVE, since
it makes you look like a jerk and a scoundrel.. *remember* that this is DISTINCT
from telling a girl on a first serious date that you love her, which is SERIOUS.. this is
much more like a C&F frame, where you're saying you love her when you've not
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even met.. so you look very jerk-ish..)
PUA: I love you..
HB: hahahaha.. yeah right!!
PUA: what?? whaaat? I'm serious, I want to marry you.. I love you so much!!
HB: hahahahha.. yeah right!!!
PUA: I do.. I swear! Close your eyes.. I want to show you something..
HB: noooo way!!
PUA: OMG I'm so embarressed.. you're making me so shy!! I told you that I loved
you, and totally revealed all my emotions, and you're stomping all over them like
a little ant hill!! (make PUPPY DOG faces, so you look SOOO CUTE..)
HB: OMG I'm soooo sorry.. I totally love you.. here.. (closes her eyes)
PUA: (now KISS the chick while her eyes are closed)
HB: hahahahahhaha.. OMG you jerk!!
PUA: yeah.. so what do you like so much about jerks?? ;)
PLANT AND STARE OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)
Walk up to girls and just stop, like plant yourself in front of them. I give them kind of
a boyish playful smiling face like I’m about to do something cocky or maybe I
though of something funny I’m about to say, and they start giggling. (key is to
stop abruptly and make the fun face so they giggle)
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WEATHER OPENER (EDDY)
YOU: Bad weather huh?
HER: Yeah..
YOU: You know, I can change it..
HER: How?
YOU: (blow in her ear)
HER: hahaha..
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Kiss and Number Close Routines

KISSING GRADE CLOSE (SWINGCAT)
You: Are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? If you were in kissing school,
what grade would your kissing teacher give you?
(get her answer)
You: “Let’s find out.” (kiss her)
THE QUESTION GAME (MYSTERY)
You: Let's play the question game.
Her: What's the question game?
You: Well, it's like Truth or Dare, but without the Dare, because I don't know how
weird you are yet! The questions have to be good ones, no "where do you
work" bullshit, ok? You go first.
Her: I can't think of anything!
You: Ok, how many boyfriends have you had?
From there the questions will get deeper and more sexual as the game goes
along. Then after you have been playing for a few minutes, when it's your turn
you can say
You: I have a good question for you... Would you like to kiss me?
Her: I don't know
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You: Let's find out!
*kiss*
You: I thought so!
***
QUESTIONS FOR THE QUESTION GAME:
- how many boyfriends you had?
- some girls like passion start and excitement, others like romance, which are you
- have you given up on romance reln, and want casual, or still try romance only?
- how do you feel difference is bet guys and girls seeing relationship (leading to
rocks-gold)
- ques: if you had to choose between sex, or friendship only in a rel would you
choose which, or are both important enough that you’d get another guy?
- do you want friendship, sex, marriage, uncomplicated/no strings?
- Extra question from 4 questions: "Your walking along a road when you come to
a wall blocking your way. What do you do?" The answer reveals how she deals
with dilemmas or obstacles in her life.
- tell me about your first kiss (then tell her my ideal first kiss)
- when is the first time you kissed anyone and really liked it (then tell mine story)
[then make out after she is done!]
- (when you broke up last bf, then, when was last time you kissed guy?)
- when was last bf (so you know how much there's to do)
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- what clothes style you like for guy (do during pu so you know what to wear
during 1st meeting)
- question, where is most exciting place you had exciting time with your BF
- question, where would you like most exciting time with your bf to be?/how
(rooftop...etc?)
- did you ever kiss on first date?
- did you ever sleep with the guy on the first date?
- describe how it happened
- sm? vibrator? 3p? (questions)
- "what do you do when no one's looking?"
Note: have some answers prepared for this. Lie. Have an answer for the
naughtiest thing you ever did (museum? Just lie).
STEAL A KISS ROUTINE
PUA: (does trick or tells story - whatever)
HBs: more more.. that was cool, do MORE!!
PUA: Fuck, typical woman... "more.. more!!" (said in troll imitating voice)
HBs: hey! we want more..
PUA: ok you want more.. I've got ONE more, just for YOU..
HBs: ok..
PUA: ok, do you understand VISUALIZATION??
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HBs: yeah..
PUA: ok, are you intuitive?
HBs: uhuh..
PUA: yes?
HBs: yeah
PUA: yes?
HBs: yes.
PUA: are you intelligent?
HBs: yes.
PUA: are you imaginative?
HBs: yes.
PUA: ok.. close your eyes, and I want you to visualize a kiss..
HBs: HEY.. HEEEEY!! We KNOW what you're doing..
PUA: OK.. whatever.. (turn back on them, and sit there)
HBs: no no no.. ok we'll do it, we'll do it..
PUA: OK, close your eyes..
HBs: you're not going to kiss us are you??
PUA: WTF?? Look I don't know what FANTASIES you have, but I'm just doing
VISUALIZATION tricks here..
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HBs: ok.. (close their eyes)
PUA: (KISS the chicks.. both you and your wing, or just you if you're solo)
HBs: hahahhahahahha.. HEEEEY... you promised!!!
PUA: NICE!!! (high-five your wing, or any guy around you, or her friends).. She
likes me!!
HBs: hahahahah..
PUA: nice.. I got what I want.. peace!!! (start to leave)
HBs: hey!! HEY!! come back!!
PUA: hahahah.. ok get this......
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Stories
GAY CATS ROUTINE (STYLECHILD03 AND WILDER)
Initial hook: Start the story with, "Have you ever met a gay cat?"
After this, you'll have the undivided attention of your audience. (Wilder)
PUA: Ok, get this, my friend Sara, bought 3 cats some time ago. I dont know
what she was thinking when she bought them, but she bought all three
*male* cats. It was so funny. When I would go to her place to visit her, I
would see the cats spooning each other, sometimes even licking each
other.
HB: smiling
PUA: No Really. I told Sara "you know what, I think they're gay, I mean not gay
by birth, but maybe prison gay... you know. I mean they havent seen a
female cat in months... what are they supposed to do" So Sara started
getting freaked out, its amazing how she never thought about it. And we
decided one day that we're gonna do something about it, coz the last
thing Sara wanted were gay cats. So we embarked on a mission to find a
female cat.
HB: hehehe
PUA: And Sara had a neighbor that she really hated, he had a female cat, so
once while the guy was away, we stole it and put it in the room with three
male cats. Only God knows what happened then.
HB: LOL!!
Punchline: "So now her neighbor's cat is knocked up. So pretty soon I think I
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know where you can get your very own little gay kitten!" (Wilder)
> Hi Wilder,
> I like the Gay Cat Routine and think you really improved
> StyleChild's original version by adding a hook and a punchline.
> However, I don't know which character traits it conveys but
> in the thread where SC presented this routine you said you liked
> it because it "subcommunicates so many great things."
>
> What are these things?
> That you hve a girl you're just friends with?
Yes. And you're funny. And you're good at telling stories. And you're witty, coming
up w/ a phrase like "prison gay," and you're fun and adventurous.
And yes, it's important to convey that you have this woman in you life consistently
enuf to see her cats on a regular basis. This makes girls curious about this other
woman, makes them competitive, see you as higher value, etc.
Also, so many girls are just bored. And this story, when delivered properly, shows
that you can lead them out of that place of boredom.
GETTING PUED ROUTINE (NIGHTBLUE)
This is a DHV routine Im using. The reactions are very satisfying.
"People here are so weird! Last week this guy stepped up to me with a girl. He
said that his girlfriend liked me, and wanted me to be with her. Im like what? He
continued saying, while your being with her, I'll be touching her. Im still like,
Whaat? He just continues, and while Im touching her, I'll also be touching you.
Then I started to look around for some camera's b/c it was just too weird. I mean, I
understand when a girl is stepping up to you like that and wants to hook up. But a
guy coming up like that, and asking you to hook up with his girlfriend, and
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wanting to participate?"
***
After that they'll obviously be in your spell and start asking if you did it.
Then I say sarcastically, No. the guy wasnt really my type.
I STOLE A GIRLS GIRLFRIEND (DAHUNTER)
You know the weirdest thing happened to me today, and i need your opinion on
this... (not an opener)
When i lived alone, i threw this party in my house, all my friends came, we even
had this cool fog machine that made it really cool...
So as the party is going, two cute girls came in, but they were like holding hands
and giggly over each other... I didn`t think much of it there. Ok, so later in the
party i start talking with one of these girls and we really hit it off, like when you feel
like you`ve known someone for a long time...
So the next day she surprised me by showing up at my house, and you know... we
started hanging out together.
But there was always something strange... whenever she was at my house,
someone would call her on the phone and she`d be like, "yeah... sorry i`ll be
home tonight don`t worry". I thought it was like her parents or something like that.
Until one day i get this phone call and in a girls voice someone says "you`d better
stay away from Tatiana or i`ll send someone to beat you up". I just couldn`t
believe it. It seemed that this girl had been going out with her girlfriend and she
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found out about me and went postal.
But now, after we broke up like 5 months ago she calls me today and she says
that she wants to see me again. What would you do?
Source: http://www.fastseduction.com/masf/16/195485/
Wakeboarder:
Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over mannequin in the department
store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make
it with the manequin and called you a little freak.
PIMP DADDY ROUTINE (MYSTERY)
I saw two people sitting next to each other in a bar, a man and a woman. It was
obvious that both were interested in each other, but neither was going to do
anything about it. So I go up to the man and tell him that he should kiss her on
the cheek. Well, he does and she gets all happy and they start talking. When the
bar closed I saw the them leave holding hands and I couldn't help but feel I
might have brought two people together.
THIRD GRADE GIRLFRIEND ROUTINE (ARCANE)
Meta-Topics to transition from
Childhood
Getting in trouble
Early relationships
PUA: You know how kids go through this phase where they think the opposite
sex is gross?
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HB: Yeah
PUA: Well, I never went through that. Ever since I was born I've loved girls. When
I popped out of my mom I probably hit on the nurse.
(Pause slightly to see her response)
PUA: So in elementary school when all my friends thought that girls had cooties I
was secretly making out with them during playtime. Sometimes, I'd even
do cutesy stuff like pretend we were getting married or whatnot.
(Pause slightly to see her response)
PUA: I remember this one in third grade, I had this girlfriend. But now I was with
this other girl under the building block table. Yeah, third grade and I was
already cheating on my girlfriends.
(This almost ALWAYS gets a laugh)
PUA: So I'm kissing this girl and my girlfriend finds me and freaks out. I get up
and try to explain that we were just playing doctor or some shit. Now as
kids we never wore bluejeans or belts or anything, I wore these sweat
pants things with the elastic waistband, and right there she pulls my
pants AND my underwear down. (You'll get a good reaction right here as
she should totally be into the story by now)
PUA: I didn't know what to do. I'm standing there with my weenie hanging out.
So for some reason, I figured the best thing to do, would just be to pull her
pants down too. I grab them but she jumps back a step and sticks her
tongue out at me. Now I wasn't about to let her get away with all this so I
jump forward. But I forget that I've got my undies around my ankles so I
trip and fall on top of her.
And JUST at that moment the teacher turns around from the blackboard and just
freezes with the most horrified look on her face. I remember the chalk falling
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from her hand, her screaming, and then the entire class turns and sees me half
naked on top of my girlfriend.
(ROFL)
PUA: I was sent to the principal, but I never really got in trouble. The principle
actually laughed about it once I told him what happened. He let me go
saying, "Remember Arcane, in the classroom, we keep our hands off and
our pants on".
Source: http://fastseduction.com/cgi-
BABY RABBITSICLES (MAGNUS)
That's not the worst dead-rabbit story though... This ONE TIME... My other bro had
just got these two rabbits. Now they came from the rabbits home, and were
supposed to be two girls... but it turned out one of them got pregnant. So we're
just about to go out for the day when my bro is feeding and watering them, and
he comes running in... there are 5 baby rabbits in the hutch. Unfortunately they
were all dead by the time we found them. We decided we'd bury them in the
back garden, but because we were going out... we didn't want to do it right
then. So; and you'll have to appreciate I was too young to realise how bad and
wrong this was; my mum decides to wrap them up and freeze them. I don't know
why. The thing is, after our day out, we were so tired... we didn't have time for a
rabbit funeral, and just went straight to bed. Then it was school and work the next
day, so these rabbits just stayed in the freezer, until Dad found them while looking
for something to eat and threw them in the bin.
BLIND DATE STORY (DINO)
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I was walking through Union Square / Whatever-Location and I noticed this cute
girl with a puzzled expression on her face, looking a little lost and weird. So I go
over to her and say "hi". You know what she does? She lunges at me, starts
hugging me and saying things like "Hi! Have you been waiting long? Do want to
go check out a bar?"
I'm like completely baffled by this, and kind of freaking out. But I managed to
figure out what was up. Do you know why she did that? You wanna know what it
turns out to be?
It turns out that she is meeting some guy for lunch or something on a blind date...
and she thought I was him. Apparently they'd talked on the phone but not met in
real life. Isn't that incredible? Would you go on a blind date?
[how to handle the follow-up questions?]
POLISH RABBIT STEW (MAGNUS)
Reminds me of the time my friend's grandmother came to stay... his mum was
polish... and well... in Poland apparently they keep rabbits to cook... yeah, that's
right. They came home to find she'd skinned and boiled their pet rabbit.
PSYCHO DRIVER DHV (TOMMY W)
"So i'm talking to this girl that i JUST met in the parking lot of my university. We
happen to be next to her car and we've been chatting for less than _2_ minutes
when she turns to me and says "it's kinda cold... do you mind if we get inside my
car and talk?" Like i had JUST met this girl, so i'm like "ummmm... ok... i . guess . we .
could do that" Little did i know, this chick turned out to be a complete
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!PSYCHO!... So we get inside her car to "talk".. and in the next 15 seconds.. you
know what she does?? .. She puts it in reverse and backs out!! And then she starts
driving it down the road, and i'm thinking "!Psycho!"... ok, so the first thing that
came to mind was ... "I'M GOING TO DIE!" ... the second thing that came to mind
..... "maybe we're going to do something kinky [finger on chin and a sly smile]" ...
the third thing that came to mind .. "No, this is my last chance to live b/c i'm going
to be lying dead in a ditch in 15 minutes!"
As a follow-up, i sometimes add "and i made her stop the car and i was like
"LATER!!" and i got the FUCK out of that situation" --> this might subcommunicate
a willingness to walk.
RUSSIAN HAMSTER (MAGNUS)
When he was about 6, my little brother had this russian hamster. Now they are like
regular hamsters, except they are much, much smaller, and they usually only live
for about 3 months. This is a pet that really is 'just for christmas'. So my bro gets an
awesome cage and a wheel for little Hammy, and loves him to bits. Now the
thing is, modern pet medical science has advanced in the last few years, and
these hamsters are living to be longer than they would otherwise... Hammy
ended up living for like, nearly 2 years! Unfortunately even though he was
reasonably healthy, his body wasn't designed to live so long, so he got cancer...
we kept taking him to the vet, who asked the same old questions, did Hammy
seem happy, was he eating ok? and so the vet didn't put him down. The tumour
got bigger and bigger, but Hammy was happy as ever. Eventually this little
hamster is dragging around a tumour that's as big as he is! The vet only agreed to
put him down when he was staggering around the cage and unable to fit down
the tunnels.
Telling this story to girls proves that they are actually evil, because they usually
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end up laughing uncontrollably by the end.
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Other Routines
RUSSIAN HAMSTER (MAGNUS)
When he was about 6, my little brother had this russian hamster. Now they are like
regular hamsters, except they are much, much smaller, and they usually only live
for about 3 months. This is a pet that really is 'just for christmas'. So my bro gets an
awesome cage and a wheel for little Hammy, and loves him to bits. Now the
thing is, modern pet medical science has advanced in the last few years, and
these hamsters are living to be longer than they would otherwise... Hammy
ended up living for like, nearly 2 years! Unfortunately even though he was
reasonably healthy, his body wasn't designed to live so long, so he got cancer...
we kept taking him to the vet, who asked the same old questions, did Hammy
seem happy, was he eating ok? and so the vet didn't put him down. The tumour
got bigger and bigger, but Hammy was happy as ever. Eventually this little
hamster is dragging around a tumour that's as big as he is! The vet only agreed to
put him down when he was staggering around the cage and unable to fit down
the tunnels.
Telling this story to girls proves that they are actually evil, because they usually
end up laughing uncontrollably by the end.
BE REAL ROUTINE
You know, my friends are like these awesome guys.. And I love hanging out with
them and they're really cool.. But its weird, because they're totally different
people like just normally, and like when they go out to socialize in clubs. Like they
get all touchy and needy and ask all this "what's your name" to random girls that
they're grabbing and stuff like that, or try to buy them stuff to make them talk to
them before they even gave the girls a chance to just talk to them.. Like
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they can't just BE REAL and just lay back and be chill, and just be confident that
the girls will like them.. They have to touch them and like try to get them all horny
or something.. It's so weird.
This is useful if you’re soloing and they ask why.
BOYFRIEND DESTROYER ROUTINE (MYSTERY)
"I'm gonna ask you some questions, and I don't want you to answer with words. I
want you to answer with your hand. I'm gonna ask you about some things like
your job. If something is close to your heart, hold your hand close to your heart. If
it's far away, hold your hand far away. If it's in between, hold your hand there.
"Now, how close is your job to your heart?
"Think about something you're really passionate about, like a hobby. Do you have
it? How close is that to your heart?
"How close is your boyfriend to your heart?
"How close is your family to your heart?
"Now, if I was to offer you another job that was right there
[he moves her hand near her face, closer than her original job], would you take
it?"
She answers yes.
"And if a some guy came along [Chris is waving his hands toward me] who was
right there [he moves her hand so it's touching her nose], would you take him?"
Yes.
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FEMALES AS SEXUAL PREDATORS ROUTINE (STYLE)
Do you know (and I'm giving away a great "routine" here) that it is FEMALES, and
not males, who are the only ones who have an organ in their body made SOLELY
for sexual pleasure. And that organ has twice as many nerve endings as a man's
entire penis. And that organ has more nerve endings packed into a single small
space than anywhere else on the body. With all that being EVOLUTIONARILY true,
wouldn't you think that it would be FEMALES who are the sexual predators?
FRAME REVERSAL ROUTINE (DAVID DEANGELO FROM CLIFFS LIST

7/4/04)
I need to tell you something. This is serious. I'm pregnant. Our reckless hand
holding has had consequences. I hope that you'll want to be a part of our new
child's life, but either way I'm keeping it and there's nothing you can do about it.
I'll be waiting for the monthly support check. You can start now by getting me
something to drink. Oh my goodness, I just felt it kick. Hurry on that drink. Our baby
needs it.
G-STRING ROUTINE (NIGHTBLUE)
Hey I definitely need to understand this. How come you girls find g-strings more
comfortable than normal underwear? I mean how can THAT be comfortable?
Doesn't it get in your butt?
- a common response I get, it really feels comfortable.
Then I continue with, you girls find that feeling in your butt nice? You girls are so
bad I can't believe you guys!
Or they'll either say, because It looks better.
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Response, OMG just so that your ass will look better to people? I can't believe you
guys! All that work so youre ass looks nice? OMG! You guys are trouble! I need to
watch myself with you guys.
GUY/GIRL NAME ROUTINE (TWENTYSIX)
(this was originally designed for phone game but Jlaix, for example, uses it in set)
"Hey, its Tyler. You know what? My dad just told me what my name was going to
be if I was named a girl. It was going to be Anna. What was your name going to
be if you were a guy? (she says it). I think you look like a Leroy."
HEAVEN/HELL ROUTINE (HELMUTS)
I found myself using this a lot after TD's "PVC-Devil" Routine. If not, then I often
enter it by disqualifying her from "going to heaven" because she's such an evil
chick... then it goes like:
"You know, actually I wouldn't want to go to heaven myself. I mean, think about
it, where are all the Rockstars, the Models, the Party Girls, the Porno Actors going
to end up after their death? Yeah, right, in hell. So, while above you're going to sit
on a cloud, playing harp and flirting with Mother Theresa at best, down there
there's going to be some HOT party going on, scantily-clad chicks and lots of
Barbeque..."
I use this to set the frame for them that you want "bad girls" not "nice girls" and
that you want party, not sainthood. Neodes actually prefaced it once by saying
"ya know, we're angels, we got thrown out of heaven for some stupid shit Helmut
did (start a little busting wing/wing), and we got to do three more good deeds for
getting our wings back so we can get up there again. But actually we dont
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want...bla bla bla...
JEALOUS BOYFRIEND ROUTINE (ZENDRAGON)
Everytime when I'm talking to a girl. Another guy waves to her, or comes over to
give her a hug, or comes over to chat with her briefly. I would say to the girl...
"hey is that your jealous boyfriend?"
"good, 'cause last week I was at this bar, a jealous boyfriend saw his girlfriend
talking to me and tried to start a fight with me..."
This will:
1) Indirectly demonstrate social proof
2) reveal her relationship with the guy
3) get her to qualify herself by telling you "oh no he's cool" "oh no he doesn't care"
"oh no we're just friends" "oh no, i don't know him that well"
4) frame that guy as a 'jealous type' in case he's an AMOG who may CB you later
5) open up another interesting conversation thread.
6) Moving the 2 of you in the frame of "since he's not the jealous boyfriend, we
can do more intimate things together"
On Friday I chatted up this girl who sat next to me on a couch, after a few
minutes, a guy came over and sat next to her on the other side. I ran the "jealous
boyfriend" routine, she said "no he's fine". I said "cool, what if we cuddle? will he
get jealous then?" she laughed and said "no he won't". We started cuddling. She
followed me around for the rest of the night and eventually email closed me in
front of her REAL boyfriend.
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Now in hindsight, while we were cuddling, I should also have said "what if we kiss?
will he be jealous THEN?" to see if she'd go for it right there and then.
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-
JEALOUS CAT (BADPIRATE)
My friend has been going out with a girl for about three months and they get
along really well, they love each other heaps, but her cat hates him. Like
whenever he tries to pet it, it will just look at him like he's an idiot and walk off and
one time he left his shoes by the door and it pissed on them. What do you think
he should do? We've thought of four things:
1. Just be nice to it even though it's going to hate him.
2. Ignore it.
3. Say to his girlfriend : It's me or the cat.
4. When she's not looking 'accidentally' (two fingers motion) run it over with his car
[make a routine how a friend of mine dated this girl that was allergic to cats and
wanted him to get rid of his 2 cats. "he made the right decision ... and dumped
the girl -> conveys that you're not needy and that girls have to adapt to you and
not the other way round]
MASTURBATING IN SHOWER ROUTINE
You: Did you know that 93% of girls masturbate in the shower?
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Her: No
You: The other 7% sing
Her: Oh yeah?
You: And do you know what they sing?
Her: No, what?
You: Oh you must be one of the girls that masturbates then.
Her: HAHAHA
This is great for groups.
NEXTING ROUTINE (THUGSTYLE2G)
This is something I've been experimenting with on HB's and it seems to be working
well,... in a typical convo when things are not going my way, and the HB is shit
testing and playing headgames, or generally fucking around I say somewhat of
the following things ...
PUA: you don't wanna end up like *insert name of recent HB you NEXT* do
you?..
HB: who is *next victim*?
PUA: ... that's a girl that I used to get along with really well, until she did
something that upset me so i had to get rid of her
HB: well what did she do?
PUA: don't worry... I hope you don't end up in the same place as her *PAUSE for
silence*...
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Continue next convo topic, routine etc.
ROUTINE can be expanded to include an explanation of what last HB did, that

caused you to NEXT her. This tactic seems to work well because it shows you won't
take shit from her, and you're prepared to next her if need be.
PVC DEVIL OUTFIT ROUTINE (TYLER DURDEN)
"Oh, you're getting fiesty huh? You know what I would do with you? I would dress
you up.... in a red.. PVC... *devil* outfit.. You'd have little horns like this... and a
tail.. bitch boots, and..... a pitch fork. Now your friend here.. I'd dress her up in a
similar angel outfit.. with wings.. and a fur halo.. and I'd roll with you guys on each
arm down the street.. Every girl would be jealous of you.. And whenever I'd have
to make a decision.. I'd let each of you fight over which decision is the most fun..
and whatever one would be the most fun.. we'd do that."
(the periods are to show the pacing, because they roll over laughing in between
every pause)
[...]
I use this stuff early in set, or later on in set before I'm about to move them, and its
to implant the idea of rolling on each arm, and then I throw out my arms and
they jump on like magnets.
SHE'LL REMEMBER YOUR NAME ROUTINE (WILDER)
I've been playing with this lately. When a girl asks my name I'll say, "Turn around a
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sec." Then I'll grab her ass and say, "My name is Wilder."
You better have the game to back this up, but I'll diffuse and get around to,
"Haha, I find people remember my name much better after I've done something
delightfully inappropriate. Now what's my name? And don't say Daddy - not yet
anyway."
WANNA FIGHT ROUTINE
Looked one of them in the eye, shook my fist at her and growled "Wanna fight?"
She started flexing and yelled "Bring it on!"
I replied "Great. Then we can have make-up sex."
The whole set starts laughing.I smile at the girl and follow up with "Just kidding. We
don't need to fight to do that."
The girls laugh even harder. Looks like the opener works! =)
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Games
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FUCK MARRY KILL GAME (TWENTYSIX)
“Fuck, Marry, Kill” is a game he [TwentySix] got from listening to the Howard Stern
show.
You play it by pointing out three guys in the club and telling her “You have to
fuck one of them, marry one of them, and kill one of them. Which one would you
do what to?”
"When I play Fuck, Marry, Kill I dont pick 3 guys and get the girl to choose out of
them. I just pick a guy and ask if she would rather fuck, marry, or kill him. Then I let
her pick a girl and I answer and we go back and forth for while.
When it gets old I pick a hot girl and ask if she would fuck, marry or kill the girl.
Then I bust on her answers and shift the conversation to girl on girl action and find
out if shes ever experimented with another girl, etc and go on from there."
incognito:
I get the "none of the above" reply too, but that is when I am forcing the routine
into the interaction. Pick guys who aren't too bad, picking all really bad ones
comes across as patronising I feel. Pick them once you have already explained
the game. It is more spontaneous and genuine.
Date Posted: 2002/11/27 05:29:00 PM EST
Author: cooljoe <unknown email address>

Subject: New Game: Dump, fuck, marry
[...]
She told me she would name three people, and I had to pick what I wanted to
do with each one. One person you have sex with (I think only once, not really
clear on that), one person you get married to but can never have sex with,
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and the third person you have to push off a cliff. She told me she would start with
an easy one, then she named three celebrities. (J-Lo, Salma Hayek, and
someone else.) I made my choices and explained them. Then it was my turn so I
gave her a choice of three famous men. The next time she said she would make
it tougher, and she picked three ugly women (Janet Reno, Rosie, and someone
else) so I had to pick from those. Then I gave her a choice again, and the third
time she gave me a choice of two common friends of ours and herself.
[...]
possible intro:
"Hey I was listening to a radio show a couple of days ago and they played a nice
little game there..."
After you begin gaming a girl and are into the attraction phase, try this.......
Ryan: "I need to ask you some questions."
HB: "OK....."
Ryan: "If I'm right, all the answers to these questions will be yes..."
HB: "...."
Ryan: "Do you like chocolate?"
HB: "Yes"
Ryan: "Do you think I find you attractive?"
HB: "Yes"
Ryan: "Do you find me attractive?"
HB: "Yes"
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Ryan: "If I were to kiss you right now, you would say no?"
HB: "Yes"
Ryan: "Would you like to dance then?"
HB: "Yes"
Just a fun little game to play, then go kino that bitch for a while on the dance
floor, and run more routines, take her home, whatever.
KISSING GAMES (MAGNUS)
I'd like to develop this into a late game routine for once you are kissing the girl. I
was challenging her to come up with different types of kisses, discussing them,
and obviously, demonstrating. Whoever comes up with the most different kisses
wins, but the next girl I run this on won't have compared notes with other people
on the internet :)
HOLLYWOOD KISS
Turn the girl slightly to the side, in front of you, and put one arm round her waist in
front of her and reach behind, and then the other hand behind her head as you
push her over backwards with your lips.
NEIGHBOURS KISS
If anyone ever watched neighbours, all the teenagers used to fake tongue
kissing, without tongues. Basically, kiss with your mouth open but no tongue, it's
weird, and makes girls laugh.
PUPPY-DOG KISS
Lick like a puppy, over her tongue and inside her mouth.
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WASHING MACHINE KISS
This was hers, round and round, monotonous.
RASPBERRY KISS
Blow a raspberry on her lips instead of a kiss.
BITE KISS
Bite her top or bottom lip, and don't let go. At all. Even when she says the joke is
over.
DEEP BREATH KISS
Kiss just on the lips, but both take a huge deep breath at the same time, the
oxygen rush gives you a brief natural high.
Needless to say I won. I think this is good DHV, shows you are imaginative, and like
the Three Smiles routine, it's the sort of thing girls remember and tell their friends
about.
LYING GAME (RYOBI VERSION)
I [stevie_pua] use Ryobi's version of the Lying Game.
It is great for cocky and playful as well as bringing in sexual themes in a humorous
way. It also allows you to bust on her. It goes something like this. "Who do you
think lies more, men or women?
Her: (whatever)
You: "Oh yeah, I am not so sure, but I know a way to find out. (Smile) OK –
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Which one of these things about me is true? Only ONE of them is true ....
Number 1. I was left a large estate by a dead relative
Number 2. I have a big jacuzzi at home
Number 3. (whispering a little as if you are sharing a secret) I have a 12 inch penis
Number 4. I am gay!"
Let her decide what she thinks is the true statement then say "No! Actually, I lied,
they are ALL TRUE. Just your luck to meet a rich guy with a jacuzzi and a 12 inch
cock who turns out to be gay!"
Then I do a fake semi-turn away and look at her over my shoulder and smile.
THE LYING GAME (BRAID_GED)
I have had a great reaction from this game even from HBs who didn't end up
digging me.
Braid_ged : Hey, are you a good liar?
HB : what ?
Braid_ged : can you lie, like (turns to other HB), is she a good liar?
HB_Other : yes! she is a fantastic liar! / No, she can't lie.
Braid_ged : Is that right? well lets see. Ok, you are going to tell me three things.
One of them will be a lie. Ok?
HB : Ok.
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Braid_Ged : right.. you are going to tell me.... umm.. a place you have always
wanted to visit. Ummm a shop you like going to... and.... the name of the first guy
you slept with, or girl...
(HB raises eyebrow)
Braid_ged : ok guy. So that's three things, place to visit, shop you like and first
guy you slept with. Ok?
(the whole table is now looking at her)
HB : ok.
Braid_ged : ok... hold on, take it slow, think about it you have to try and be as
convincing as you can...
she tells.. you try and pick the lie... you get the idea.
Then usually someone goes "MY Turn!" and if they say to you "Your turn" you go
"Are you kidding, I am not playing some silly lie game", then turn to your wing
"Yeah like _I_ and going to play some lie game, these people are crazy" [<- mini
cold-read].
Then go get a drink or something and let them think about what a fun guy you
are.
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RELATIONSHIP OPENERS ............................................................................................................................. 5

KISS AND NUMBER CLOSE ROUTINES ....................................................................................................... 16

Baby Rabbitsicles (Magnus) ................................................................................................................. 26

Fuck Marry Kill Game (TwentySix) ..................................................................................................... 40

CUTE COUPLE OPENER ( IJJJJI)

NEVER BE COUPLE OPENER (IJJJJI, TYLER DURDEN)

(pause with puppy dog face)

You: Cos we could NEVER EVER be a couple!

You: Nooo.. we are too similar.. IMAGINE, we would be SO IN LOVE..

[can also be used as a routine later on]

SEATTLE GF OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)

The girls will either say:

"She has a boyfriend!"

you aren't judgemental about people being spontaneous.

JEALOUS GF OPENER (STYLE)

HBs: I think it's fine/I don't think they should be talking/whatever

HBs: blah blah blah concerned comment blah blah question

It's a great opener because:

A. Women love talking about relationships.

[from Style's "Introducting...The Jealous Girlfriend Opener" thread]

You: Hey guys, would you ever get a Tattoo?

Her: blah blah blah

Her: no, no don't let her do it

TWIN BROTHERS (ROSS JEFFERIES)

Which one do you pick?

(It’d probably be best to make up some sort of back-story for this)

WHO LIES MORE OPENER (CHRIS ROCK VERSION)

Her: blah blah blah

TEXT MESSAGE BREAK-UP (LXSARGING)

You: Is it OK to breakup with someone with a text message?

(Then make up a good back-story for this)

DAVID BOWIE (TYLER DURDEN)

Her: (blah, blah, blah)

Using Marylin Manson instead of David Bowie (credit to Pnutt)

THE FAN CLUB OPENER (THUNDERCAT)

You: “Hey, you like music?”

Her: blah, blah

Source: “The Art of Approaching” by Thundercat

I LOVE YOU OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)

even met.. so you look very jerk-ish..)

PUA: I love you..

HB: hahahaha.. yeah right!!

HB: hahahahha.. yeah right!!!

HB: noooo way!!

HB: hahahahahhaha.. OMG you jerk!!

PUA: yeah.. so what do you like so much about jerks?? ;)

PLANT AND STARE OPENER (TYLER DURDEN)

WEATHER OPENER (EDDY)

YOU: Bad weather huh?

YOU: You know, I can change it..

YOU: (blow in her ear)

Kiss and Number Close Routines

(get her answer)

You: “Let’s find out.” (kiss her)

THE QUESTION GAME (MYSTERY)

You: Let's play the question game.

Her: What's the question game?

Her: I can't think of anything!

You: Ok, how many boyfriends have you had?

Her: I don't know

You: Let's find out!

You: I thought so!