Sei sulla pagina 1di 28

03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.

com

ALLOUTPUT.com
A personal hobby website

HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS

The Fender Stratocaster and the Gibson Les Paul are two guitars that never have
and never will fall out of favour. They cover very di erent ground in terms of
tone, the Strat reigns supreme for crisp, bright, clear tones while the Les Paul
has a heavier, fatter, punchier sound. This is down to their use of single-coil
and humbucker pickups respectively. Both are great for blues and making the
choice between the two camps is di cult so wouldnt it be great if you could
get all this out of one guitar, just from the ick of a switch? This page explains
how you can modify a HSH con guration guitar to switch between SSS and HH
con gurations, greatly expanding the versatility.

Guitar pickups and notation (HH, HSH, SSS, etc.) are explained very well inthis
articlefrom Wikipedia. Another good place to learn more about guitar
electronics is the excellentGuitarNuts website.

Why?

Youve got a HSH guitar (or any three pickup guitar for that matter if you want
to change the pickups) that you want more versatility from. You wish you could
have all the tones of a Les Paul and a Stratocaster in one guitar.

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 1/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

One of my rst electric guitars was aGodin SDwhich I love to bits. Its a HSS
guitar and I loved the strat-like sounds from the single-coils and the powerful
bridge humbucker. A couple of years later I was lucky enough to buy an
American Deluxe Strat (theyre a lot cheaper in the States!) and I found there
was a lot of similarity between the two guitars sounds. It felt like the single-
coils on the Godin were trying to emulate a Strat, but now I had a great Strat
(which does it so much better!). So that got me thinking about changing the
Godin pickups

What?

Given that I had the Strat thing covered, I wanted more punch from the Godin
and that got me thinking about single-coil sized humbuckers. Two of the bigger
pickup manufacturers,Seymour DuncanandDiMarzio, both produce
humbuckers that are sized to t as single-coil replacements. After listening to
the sound les on the Seymour Duncan website I decided to go for a59
humbuckerat the bridge, aLil59 humbuckerat the neck and a single-coil
styleDuckbucker* at the middle position to keep some quacky Strat tone
available and turn my HSS guitar into a HSH con guration.

* Those of you that know your pickups may know that the Duckbucker is
actually a humbucker type pickup and is voiced to sound like a single-coil but
with humbucking noise cancellation. In this installation I have treated it exactly
as a single-coil type pickup.

Neck: Lil59 humbucker (mine is black)

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 2/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Middle: single-coil style Duckbucker (mine is white)

Bridge: 59 humbucker (mine is all black)


OK, so I tted the pickups and they each had a great sound (the Lil59s output
is very impressive and compares well to the full-sized 59) but there was quite
an imbalance between the two humbuckers and the quieter single-coil style
Duckbucker, even after experimenting with the pickup heights. Not surprising
really, given the speci cations of the pickups. Also, I wanted to try coil-taps to
get more versatility out of the humbuckers.

I decided I wanted to modify the wiring so that I could have either the two
humbuckers on, switched like a Les Paul (HH) with the humbuckers in parallel
for the middle position, or coil-tap the humbuckers and switch the resulting
three single-coils like a Strat (SSS) with the guitars 5-way switch. E ectively
the guitar would have two modes of operation:

Selected pickups

5-way selector position Humbucker mode (HH) Single-coil mode (SSS)

5 Neck Neck

4 Neck||Bridge Neck||Middle

3 Neck||Bridge Middle

2 Neck||Bridge Middle||Bridge

1 Bridge Bridge

Within each mode the pickups output levels are well matched to each other
giving smooth transitions if you switch position on the 5-way switch mid-song.
Note that the output levels in humbucker mode are much louder than in single-
coil mode, which can also have its uses.

How?
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 3/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

How?

When you search the web for guitar wiring information and modi cations it
seems that people have posted just about every conceivable wiring
con guration. This idea seemed so obvious to me I thought it must be out there
somewhere but, after a few hours of sifting through many websites, I gave up
looking. Maybe I just didnt look hard enough? Whatever, I picked up a scrap of
paper and started to think about how to make this happen

In order to understand this modi cation, you need to be able to understand


simple circuit diagrams. Again, the excellent GuitarNuts website can help you
out here,this pageis a good starting point. The 5-way selector switches used on
guitars can take a bit of time to get your head around so check it out and make
sure you know what switch youve got (Fender use a di erent type to just about
every other manufacturer) and how it works.

Update After a few e-mail queries, Ive written a brief explanation ofhow the
5-way switch works.

This modi cation is achievable by adding one new switch to the guitar. You
need a 4-pole changeover switch (also known as a 4-pole double throw, 4PDT,
ON-ON), easily available from the likes ofMaplin Electronics(I was able to walk
into the Maplin shop in Cheltenham and get one on a Sunday afternoon
amazing). You also need to make sure youve got enough room on your guitar to
t such a switch. This should probably involve you taking o the pickguard or
cavity cover and checking theres enough roominsidethe guitar as well as
space on the outside. I squeezed my switch in between the volume and tone
controls:

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 4/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

The new switch sits between the volume and tone controls note the knobs and
switch cap are o and the pickguard assembly is unscrewed from the body in
this photo.

An inside view of the new switch location note


the copper shielding Ive added to the back of
the pickguard and the control cavity. Not the
neatest job in the world but whos ever going to
see it? Well, OK, maybe Ill try harder next
time

Update Ive done it again on my new Strat and


I did try harder! Check out the job Ive done with
adhesive copper tapehere.

Ive drawn out theschematic diagram here:

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 5/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Ive also drawn awiring layout diagram here:HSH_wiring_layout_1

For a fairly complicated scheme like this, it should be easier to follow the
schematic, the layout diagram is a little crowded. Hopefully having both
diagrams here will enable those of you who dont feel comfortable with
schematics to compare the two and see that there isnt really much di erence
between schematics and layout diagrams. In schematics, components are drawn
in with clearer symbols, enabling you to follow the wiring route through
switches, quite important in understanding whats going on here. On the
schematic, the original 5-way selector switch is labeled SW1 and the new switch
is SW2. SW2 is drawn in the humbucker mode. The logic behind this took me
some time to think through so grab a beer, look over the diagram and dont
stress too much (the hard part is when you come to actually solder this bad boy
together dont try that under the in uence, itll never work!).

A note on pickup choice to perform the coil-taps on the humbuckers they


each need to have 4 wires, not the older style 2-wire type that doesnt let you
tap the coils. If youre thinking of buying new pickups check youre getting the
4-wire type as some pickups are available in both 2-wire and 4-wire versions
(this very nearly caught me out when I bought the pickups at the Music Live
show in Birmingham, lucky I checked the box contents before I left!).

The main points to understand are described below:

Humbucker mode:

SW2 is drawn in the humbucker position

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 6/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

The hot outputs of the bridge and neck humbuckers are routed to the upper
pole of SW1 as normal. From here the selected signal is passed to the guitars
volume and tone controls not drawn on this diagram).
The lower pole of SW1 is used to ensure the neck and bridge outputs are only
connected together when positions 2,3 or 4 are selected.
The 4th down (lowest) pole of SW2 ensures this only happens in humbucker
mode (otherwise positions 2 and 4 of the single-coil mode would both be
Neck||Middle||Bridge).
The 3rd down pole of SW2 routes this combined output of bridge and neck to
the upper pole of SW1 (and then on to the guitars output) when in
humbucker mode.

Single-coil mode:

With SW2 in the single-coil position, the upper two poles of SW2 perform the
coil-tap on the two humbuckers, shorting half of each humbucker to ground.
Now we have three single-coils!
The 3rd down pole of SW2 now brings the middle single-coil into the circuit
and routes its output to the upper pole of SW1.
The 4th down pole (lowest) of SW2 is now broken and ensures that the neck
pickup isnt connected to the bridge pickup (the lower pole of SW1 is now
redundant).

If you understand basic electronics, can hold a soldering iron the right way
round and can gure out the contacts on your 5-way switch, this much
information should be enough for you to carry out the mod.

So what?

The so what of this modi cation is that I now have a guitar that sounds like a
Strat one minute and the next I kick in the humbucker switch and I get some
full-on punch requiring a minimum safe distance of 5km. Im really pleased
with my pickup choice too. The 59 at the bridge is really powerful, sends the
neighbours running for cover, and when coil-tapped gives a very respectable
single-coil sound. The Lil59 at the neck is a real wonder, it really stands up to

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 7/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

its bigger cousin at the bridge and, again, provides a good single coil sound
when coil-tapped (though not as good as the full-sized 59 in this respect). The
Duckbucker in the middle gives a superb quacky Strat sound (as the name
suggests!) and, when combined with the tapped 59s in positions 2 and 4, gives
the most awesome funky tones.

Of course this guitar doesnt sound and feelexactlylike a top notch Strat or Les
Paul but thats not the intention. The Godin SD is a great playing guitar in its
own right. This modi cation expands its vocabulary so that Ive got a broad
range of tones that can cover just about anything I want to play.

Check it out!

To sort out the extra holes I was left with either side of the bridge humbucker I
decided tomake myself a new pickguard. I also took this opportunity to move
the 5-way selector switch a little further away from the strings as I had a
tendency to accidentally ick the switch with my right hand while playing not
good! Thats my only criticism of these great guitars. Still, sorted now, and I
went for black for the new pickguard to give the guitar a bit of a face lift and a
new mean look. Grrrrrrrrrr.

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 8/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Hear it!!

OK, looks are all very well, but that wasnt the point of the exercise heres
what it sounds like!

As with Seymour Duncans website, in each set of recordings, Ive played the
same ri into the same amp settings (on myLine 6 PodXTrecorded onto my
PC) for direct comparison between the pickup selections.

OK, rst up is a bluesy lick played into a clean amp setting (if you have a PodXT,
download the tonehere):

Clean

5-way selector position Humbucker mode (HH) Single-coil mode (SSS)

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 9/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

5 Neck Neck

4 Neck||Bridge Neck||Middle

3 Neck||Bridge Middle

2 Neck||Bridge Middle||Bridge

1 Bridge Bridge

Now for something with a bit more drive. All Ive done is add the Pods Classic
Distortion stomp box in front of the previous amp settings (download the
tonehere):

Overdrive

5-way selector position Humbucker mode (HH) Single-coil mode (SSS)

5 Neck Neck

4 Neck||Bridge Neck||Middle

3 Neck||Bridge Middle

2 Neck||Bridge Middle||Bridge

1 Bridge Bridge

Its obviously a lot easier to hear the di erence between the pickup settings on
the clean demo as theres a lot of colour from the stomp box in the overdrive
demo. But I think you can see from both, theres a lot of fun to be had! So what
are you waiting for? If anyone does nd this page and carries out this mod,
pleasedrop me a lineto tell me about what youve done.

58 thoughts on HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS

C.

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 10/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

October 10, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Could You help with the schematics if i have 2 DPDT switches?

Andy
October 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Thats a pretty easy one. You could use 2 DPDT switches as two halves of the
4PDT switch I use. I would wire one of them (call it switch A) as the top half
of SW2 and the other switch (call it switch B) as the bottom half of SW2 as
shown on the schematic. Switch A would control the coil taps to switch the
humbuckers between humbucker and ssingle coil operation. Switch B would
control which pickup is used when the 5-way selector switch is in the middle
positions. You could switch both A and B at the same time to operate as per
my design or use them independently but you might have something strange
going on in the 2 and 4 positions when the humbuckers are active. Hope
that helps.

Ryan
February 4, 2015 at 1:25 am

I did this with two push/pull DPDT switches on my Freeway Classic (also
HSH). Thinking of the DPDT as two halves of the 4PDT made it pretty
straightforward to follow. One switch splits the humbuckers, while the other
one changes the operation of the position selector switch.

I now have HSH, HH, SSS and SS all in one guitar! Have not noticed anything
strange from phase or otherwise in positions 2 and 4 with the HH or SS. May
just be my luck with the stock pickups.

Thanks Andy for this. Had been meaning to get to this mod for years but this
nally got me in gear!

Andy

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 11/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

February 10, 2015 at 6:09 am

Cool, glad it worked for you!

chris not
June 8, 2013 at 5:39 pm

hi
i have a yamaha paci ca 812w hss con guration .
and i want to upgrade with andy timmons set cruiser neck (its a humbucker
in a single size)and at1 on bridge.
th eprobleme is my switch is 2X12 pins written 54321001245
i have 1 pot volume and 1 pot tone
i want to keep the same conf like(neck,split neck and middle,middle,middle
split bridge and bridge.
i lookin for all the site and post all the forum in the world lol!!but i still to look
my pickup on my desk:(
my main problem is to connecte the cruiser on this switch to have split..

thanx for your help(last chance.)

Andy
June 8, 2013 at 9:12 pm

OK, it sounds like you just need to wire in this neck pickup to mirror what
you already have on the bridge? The best advice I can give is to check these
diagrams from the Seymour Duncan website. You probably have something
like this right now:

HSS with auto-split http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-


diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_2s_1v_1t_5w_as

you want to get to something like this:

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 12/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

HSH with auto-split http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-


diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_1s_1h_1v_1t_5w_as

Study the rst diagram carefully and see how your current wiring relates to
it. Then study the second diagram and notice how the neck pickup wiring
mirrors the bridge pickup wiring. Thats how you want to wire in your neck
pickup BUT dont forget to adapt it for the di erence in colour schemes on
Seymour Duncan and DiMarzio pickups shown here:

http://www.guitarhotrod.com/Duncan%20vs%20dimarzio.graph.JPG

Have a look at these diagrams and if that doesnt make sense to you, dont
do it. Any half decent guitar tech at a good local shop should be able to do
that for you for a low price.

chris not
June 8, 2013 at 9:28 pm

thanx alot i check the diagrams asap:)

Jim Curtis
October 28, 2012 at 9:57 am

Andy, Ive decided to use Seymour Duncan Pickups for my H-S-H. Since I am
building it for my 20 year old grandson, I want to give him as many tone
options as possible. Ive been thinking about splitting the coils or using a
blender pot that I got from Lindy Fralin. Im just not sure about the wiring.
Also, since my pickguard is cut for three pots, I thought I might as well go with
blender; or, I guess I could go with a master tone and two volume controls. Id
like your suggestions. Also, about the pots: Ive purchased some ATC 500 and a
couple of ATC 250. Any thoughts about which I should use and in what
con guration or combinations? Many thanks, Jim Curtis

Andy
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 13/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

December 31, 2012 at 6:33 am

Hi Jim, sorry for not replying sooner. Pot-wise I think 500k is the way to go
for volume control it should make no di erence and for tone control a 500k
gives you all the tone range of a 250k plus a bit more. In terms of wiring I can
only suggest trawling the web for a scheme you like the look of. Personally I
think there are a lot of schemes out there that are quite confusing to the user,
thats why I tried to do something that mirrored two switching schemes we all
know and love. Good luck!

Ch
March 26, 2013 at 2:32 pm

Hello Andy! Is it possible to make this change (HSH HH) using a 3PDT like
this one http://acessorios.worten.pt/25932-8258-thickbox/interruptor-de-
alavanca-3pdt-on-o -on.jpg ? How??

Andy
March 26, 2013 at 11:02 pm

No, this mod uses a 4PDT switch which shouldnt be too hard to nd

je
December 8, 2013 at 6:10 am

Im wondering the same thing

Igirisu-jin
March 28, 2013 at 9:40 am

Hi Andy, great site and this is an excellent mod. However I was wondering if
you could have more choices in the humbucking mode? For instance could you

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 14/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

have neck, neck+bridge (series), neck+bridge (parallel), neck+bridge (tapped)


and bridge for instance?

Currently I have my HSH set with normal strat 5-way switching, with a coil tap
on each humbucker. But I would like to be able to get N+B humbuckers together
and add a phase switch. I think your system may be a better way.

Cheers

Andy
April 14, 2013 at 11:19 pm

Hi, thanks for the comments. Yes, there are plenty of schemes out there for
lots of pickup combinations but I was going speci cally for simplicity with
this one. Have a browse around the guitar wiring forums and you should nd
something that takes your fancy. The Seymour Duncan website also has tons
of wiring schemes on it. Hope that helps!

Matthew
April 8, 2013 at 9:30 pm

Hi Andy!

Your work looks and sounds awesome, however I am wondering if it is possible


to switch from HH to SSS buy using a push/pull tone knob?

Thank you in advance!

Andy
April 14, 2013 at 11:22 pm

Hi, thanks for the comments Matthew. It could be possible if you can nd a
push/pull knob that has a 4PDT switch on it (most Ive seen are DPDT

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 15/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

switches) but I couldnt nd one when I was designing this so I had to go with
a separate toggle switch.

Matthew
April 15, 2013 at 9:39 pm

Ok, thank you!

Mel
June 23, 2013 at 12:19 am

Hi, Andy. What about the Fender S-1 volume pots? Looks like they have a 4PDT
push-push built in, and come in 250k and 500k avours. I was looking to mod
my Ibanez S470DXQM by replacing the stock INF1/2 HBs with some 4-wire HBs,
and to add coil taps. I prefer your idea for SSS and HH switching, but dont
fancy drilling holes in the quilted maple!! The S-1 pots are for Start and Tele,
and so have a shortish shaft to suit a pickguard, but they also do a long shaft
version that will hopefully be long enough to t through the body of my S470
(controls loaded through the back). The push-push button is contained within
the top of the knob, and the Tele chrome knurled nut is similar to the ones on
my guitar (like your Godin).

Andy
June 23, 2013 at 8:55 pm

Hi Mel. I have a USA Deluxe Strat with an S1 switch and I think I had a look at
the wiring once. Im not sure about the push-button being a 4PDT but I dont
believe the 5-way switch is anything like the standard 5-way so I dont think
its a good basis for this mod.

Mel
June 23, 2013 at 10:12 pm

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 16/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Thanks for your reply, Andy. I had my hopes up and it looks like Ill have to
research a bit more. When I googled for S-1 fender, there were lots of
references to it being 4pdt (e.g.
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Apr/Mod_Garage_The
_Fenders_1_Switching_System.aspx). And the 5-way switch in my guitar
is the import type you mention in your other article, and has 8 contacts,
which I would have thought are the 2 poles?

Andy
June 23, 2013 at 10:45 pm

Ahhhh, yes, actually I think youre right. My memory was hazy and I was
probably thinking of the 5-way switch in my AmDlx Strat, some kind of
Fender Super Switch which made my head spin. I can never gure out
which pickups are meant to be on when I use that S1 thing! Yes, re-
reading your posts you sound like youve got it sorted, 4PDT plus a
standard 5-way switch (import or Fender) will do the business. Good luck!

Mel
July 15, 2013 at 12:45 pm

The Fender S1 switch works a treat. Very happy with the H-H and S-S-S
options, thanks to your diagrams.

Mel
July 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Hi, Andy. I was reading that wiring a resistor in series with the tapped coil helps
to beef up the weak sound to make it more representative of a real single coil
(PRS do it on some models, 1.1k on the neck, 2.2k on the bridge). Looking at
your wiring diagram, am I right to think that the resistors would need to be
inserted where the red/white wires join SW2? What do you reckon?

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 17/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Andy
July 10, 2013 at 11:28 pm

Interesting but that wouldnt quite work here. Placing a resistor in that
location would indeed place it in series between the top coil and ground in the
tapped mode but the bottom coil would actually still be in play because it
wont have been shorted to ground, it will be in parallel with the new resistor.
Not sure what it would sound like? I like your style Mel, youre clearly able to
follow the schematic!

Mel
July 11, 2013 at 11:08 am

Having googled a little bit more about this, it seems that I need to put the
resistors on the ground side of the SW2 switch so that it only comes into play
when the HBs are tapped. Putting it the other side of the switch would be in the
humbucker mode circuit (Doh!). As you correctly point out, this mod would
indeed bring the untapped coil into play (but only a little bit), which some
people say makes the tapped coil sound more like a real single coil (??). The
resistor values a ect how much of the other coil is added, and the values given
above are the ones PRS use on some of their custom guitars. I am going to give
it a try, and compare with/without resistors and perhaps with some di erent
value resistors. I read somewhere that you can use those small variable resistors
(4.7k ohm variable resistor, sub-miniature fully enclosed carbon preset
potentiometers, about 70p each) and then you can adjust it until it sounds best
to your ears. p.s. Your schematics are easy to follow ;o)

David
September 18, 2013 at 4:09 am

I know theres no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people. But does
this con guration give you the option of shs,hh,sss or just hh and sss?

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 18/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Andy
September 21, 2013 at 8:51 pm

Good question David this results in just SSS and HH.

je
December 8, 2013 at 6:09 am

is there any way to do this WITHOUT going into SSS mode? HSH mode and HH
mode? best of both worlds. start and les paul

je
December 8, 2013 at 6:14 am

can you just leave o the coil taps and it be a full HSH and HH guitar? Ive
never done this before is why Im wondering

Andy
December 8, 2013 at 10:18 pm

Hi Je . If you did it this way you would also lose the taps which are normal
on positions 2 and 4 so it would kind of work but youd be paralleling your
middle Single with either Humbucker If you has a single coil pickup that
had a high output that had a similar punch to a humbucker it might sound
OK?

je
December 10, 2013 at 3:21 am

I like the sound of the full humbuckers with the middle pickup better
anyway. I never coil tap a humbucker anyway. I have a seymour duncan
jazz neck, fender texas special middle, and a seymour duncan pearly gates
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 19/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

trembucker bridge. The full HBs sound so good with the middle pu in
positions 2 & 4. I just want to be able to eliminate the middle pickup at
certain times so Ill have a les paul too. gig with one guitar instead of 2.
plus I have those same pickups in a les paul and the middle position
sounds more like a gretsch than the typical les paul mid postion. I think I
gured it out with a 3pdt switch. I also have the clapton mid boost circuit
in there modi ed to sambora strat specs and a battery kill with an LED in
there to tell me when the pickups are active or passive. If I could upload a
pic on here Id show you what Ive came up with. I think itll work, but Im
not sure. Dont have the 3pdt switch to try it yet.

kirry
January 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm

This Problem was solved 1981 by Matsumoku (Westone, Aria Pro II, Washburn,
custom fab of some famous guitar fabricatesetc.)
from Japan.

For example my Westone Spectrum GT has HSH with 3 way toggle and 3 push-
pull-potis.
volume = coil Split, Bass= middle PU on/o , Treble = Phase change.

Thus you get all you want.


schematics are available at westone.info

Andy
February 1, 2014 at 4:56 am

Cool, sounds like a great scheme, thanks for sharing!

je
February 2, 2014 at 6:25 am

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 20/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

I do WAY too much pickup switching for just a 3 way toggle and have to worry
about pullin up a push pull pot just to add the middle pickup. and all that does
is make a way to have all 3 pickups goin at once. If thats what I wanted Id
have done it already cause its easy. I want 2 distinct guitars in one. A 3 pickup
guitar made with the woods that a Les Paul is made of, and 2 distinct wiring
options. Ive gured out how to do it with a 5 way switch and the 3 way
toggle. all I add in extra is a simple 3 way mini toggle.

Jostein Andersen
March 7, 2014 at 8:17 am

Thanks for writing this, Ive used it for two years now and Im very satis ed.

I wonder: is it also possible in HB mode to have the HBs in parallel mode in


positions 2 and 4 with only two switches, lets say a super switch like WDE5XL
and a 4PDT? I cant nd any schematic on the Net about this. Thanks!

Andy
March 10, 2014 at 9:37 pm

Thanks for the feedback Jostein. Um, you might be able to do something with
those superswitches but I just went for the simplest thing that sprang to
mind!

eric underwood
May 17, 2014 at 6:47 am

sounds good. I am building an electric guitar for my kid. it going to have a 57


classis Gibson humbucker in bridge, mojo clone 59 jazzmaster single in neck,
and a Hotrod Stratocaster single in mid. what type of switch do I need? 5way?
and how should I wire it? Thanks, Eric

Andy
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 21/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

May 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm

Thanks for the comment Eric. If I was you I would head over to the Seymour
Duncan website where they have a whole plethora of wiring diagrams for all
di erent arrangements of pickups. Have a look at the Humbucker and Strat
sections for anything thats 1 Hum, 2 Singles and see what takes your fancy!
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/

eric
May 22, 2014 at 6:36 pm

O.K. Thank You, I will check that website out.

Jim
August 19, 2014 at 6:13 am

Did you use 250K pots or 500K?

Andy
August 20, 2014 at 10:14 pm

Um good question Jim, whatever the standard Godin pots are Im sure I
didnt change them.

Giorgio
September 26, 2014 at 11:03 pm

Hi, thank you for your mod, im going to make a similar oneso im studying
yours :).
Just an aspect i do not get from your schemes: u wire the bridge pickup in the
common pin of the second pole in sw1: that way how comes it does not connect
on all the switch position in hh mode? Im missing something.

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 22/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Thanx alot
Giorgio

Andy
October 4, 2014 at 9:13 pm

Thanks for checking it our Giorgio, sorry for the delay in response. If you
follow SW1 through from that bridge pickup connection, youll see the
common pin on the second pole only connects to the neck pickup in positions
2,3,4 in HH mode and at positions 1 and 5 it is left open.

Claudio Gil
November 7, 2014 at 4:09 pm

Hi,

Im doing a custom build os a singlecut style guitar.

The specs will be:


mahogany body with maple top and bottom
maple 24 fret 25,5 neck with stephens extended cutaway
3 way blade switch, master tone and master volume

My original intention was to make it a simple HH guitar, as i tend to avour


LPs
But then ive started to think about using 2 push/pull pots to switch the
humbuckers from series to paralel, witch gives hum free single coil sound,
resulting in an allmost tele con guration
And later on i started to think: why not put a singlecoil in the midle and have
the best of all worlds?
My intention was to add a simple on/o switch conected to the output of the
blade switch (like the Gilmour mod for the bridge pickup) that would add the
middle singlecoil at any given moment.

Did you ever tryed this? If so, what problems have you encountered?
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 23/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Thanks
This way i couls have any combination

Andy
November 10, 2014 at 10:06 pm

Hi Claudio, I havent tried it myself. Sounds pretty cool and I cant see any
obvious reasons why it wont work. Make sure you get the phases right when
you do the series/parallel switch on each humbucker and you should be good.

Tor Arild
January 17, 2015 at 10:28 pm

Hi Andy!

After hours of searching for a combination of Les Paul and Strat, i came across
your well made wiring diagram.
Almost perfect for what i want! But, is there an easy way to put in an extra mini
toggle (or two) for splitting both humbuckers together (or individialy)?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge btw

Andy
February 10, 2015 at 6:11 am

Hi Tor, well, yes, it should be pretty easy to insert extra switches to short-
circuit the lower coils of the humbuckers, that would do it.

Peter
March 4, 2015 at 7:49 pm

Hi Andy! And thanx for putting up this blog. I have made your HSH-wiring as to
the specs on your drawing on my Godin.
http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 24/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

I found some errors on the drawing at least 3 of the wires are connected
wrong (on the 4-pole switch). Once I followed your schematic and made my
own drawing everything worked perfectly.

Best, Peter:-)

Andy
March 15, 2015 at 10:04 pm

Thanks for the feedback Peter. Ive checked over the diagram and it still looks
good to me although I did swap two of the poles for a better layout on the
diagram, this is probably what youve spotted. Personally I think you should
always work from a schematic to understand what youre doing, as youve just
proved! Well done and thanks for dropping me a line

Jae
April 16, 2015 at 12:55 am

Hi, Andy

Could you please let me know what tone cap the GODIN SD has originally? Have
you changed yours to a di erent one?

Andy
April 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm

Hi Jae, sorry, I dont know and its been a long time since I opened it up. I can
certainly say I havent changed mine.

Nocki Kerkhof
May 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 25/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Hi, thanks for this page and the info on this wiring scheme. I apllied it to my
strat and it sounds great. The LesPaul setting is great on both HB as SC setting.
Yes, I used to separate switches for LP/Strat and HB/SC switching.
Works liek a charm!

Andy
May 29, 2015 at 9:59 pm

Glad you like it Nocki, thanks for dropping me a line!

Jim
February 6, 2017 at 1:59 am

Hi Just got an SD , around a 2000 If I understand serial numbering. You say it


had a strong humbucker.
I think mine is standard but the HB is pretty weak. (I tried raising it).
With the tone pot turned to bass it is virtually o .
Do you remember if that is normal?

Andy
March 3, 2017 at 9:30 pm

Hi Jim. Doesnt sound right to me, maybe take it in to your nearest guitar
store and have their tech give it a set up and see what they think?

Sebastien
March 27, 2017 at 12:51 pm

Gibson/Epiphone made this in the MIII model (Gibsons take on the superstrat
in the 90s)

The wiring diagram is here : https://goo.gl/images/5l1oyU

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 26/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

It only uses one dpdt switch to toggle between Strat and LPmodes.

I omitted the inductor, so I got (from position 1 to 5)

Strat :
1 Bridge split
2- Bridge split + Middle split
3 Middle split
4 Middle split + Neck split
5 Neck split

LP :
1 Bridge Humbucker
2 Bridge Humbucker + Neck Humbucker
3 Neck Humbucker
4 Neck Humbucker
5 No signal

Stefano
April 27, 2017 at 9:04 pm

Hi Andy,
I have a crazy idea, not sure its going to work.
I have a regular strat and I was thinking to buy HSH pick guard and add 2 Lil59
humbucker on the bridge and neck, the wiring should switch from regular strat
(turning on only the original single coils, 5 positions) to HH (turning on the 2
Humbuckers, 3 positions). Im still thinking how to actually do the schematic
but I like the idea of having 2 guitars in one without coil splitting the
humbuckerswhat to do you think? I still have to check if the start body would
accept the HSH con gurationI dont have the guitar with me and it will take a
while before I can really work on it..just planning

Andy
May 6, 2017 at 12:16 pm

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 27/28
03/08/2017 HSH Wiring Mod to HH/SSS ALLOUTPUT.com

Sounds feasible Stefano, Strat bodies are usually routed with cavities that will
support HSH just treat it as two separate pickup wiring circuits and then
switch between the two at the output socket. I quite like that idea

ALLOUTPUT.com / Proudly powered by WordPress

http://alloutput.com/guitar/hsh-wiring-mod-to-hhsss/ 28/28

Potrebbero piacerti anche