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Theory and Practice in the Study of Indian Music

Harold S. Powers

T he wording of my title is not intended to be


quite as ambiguous as it sounds. To be sure, I
shall have occasion to refer to the theory and
he called civilized, pre-civilized, and
peasant, using these terms as purely objective
categories in social science. Following V. Gordon
practice of music in India; but the main theme of Childe, Professor Redfield listed a number of
this report is the theory and practice of studying characteristics of the society-type he was labeling
Indian music. civilization, among which are two that have a
At the time of the organizational meeting of special relevance to musical activities: the presence
the Society of Ethnomusicology, The general of full-time technical specialists, and the
consensus favored the view that ethnomusicology presence of a privileged ruling class. To these I
is by no means limited to so-called primitive would add a special characteristic for the musical
music, and is defined more by the orientation of aspect of civilization: the presence of some sort
the student than by any rigid boundaries of of more or less independent theory of music,
discourse (Ethnomusicology containing (minimally) names
Newsletter). Some years later for notes or for other melodic
Alan Merriam (1960: 111) units of musical discourse.
wrote in part: There is, surely, an important
distinction to be made
If our field can be defined as
the study of music in culture, between musical cultures
then it is as applicable to the which have developed or
study ofart music formsas preserved theory and musical
it is to a non-literate cultures which have not, even
groupEthnomusicology is though the presence of theory
the method of study which
searches for certain goals in is often allied with another of
certain ways and which is the Redfield/Childe
applicable to any of the varied characteristics of
musical systems of the world. civilization, the presence of
The two phrases I would the art of writing (loc. cit.).
like to emphasize in the foregoing are the And this is a distinction, which is more a cultural
orientation of the student and a method of distinction than a musical one: indeed, the
study. I would like to suggest that there is no presence, survival, or absence of a theory of music
single orientation or single method of study, which is itself an important index of the relative
is equally, usefully, and meaningfully applicable independence of musical phenomena in a culture.
to any of the varied musical systems of the world. We can say roughly, then, that in a civilized
Different types of cultures show vastly different society music will have several kinds and levels of
functions of the attitudes towards music and development, and that at its highest levels, which
musicians. The degree to which a cultures music we customarily call art music, it will be
is separable from the cultures as a whole varies produced by professionals or by leisured amateurs,
enormously, and it is this degree of separability, for an elite or for one another and that musicians
which must determine the basic attitudes and and/or scholars will talk about musical
methods of the researcher. phenomena as if they had some sort of existence
The late Robert Redfield, in The Primitive independent of other parts of daily life.
World and Its Transformations, made a general In contrast to this picture, Professor Redfield
distinction between three types of society, which (35) points out that in the pre-civilized society the
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religion or from the mythic content of the local to music. Indian music is of course an integral part
culture, and secular professional entertainment is of Indian culture; but it can evidently be separated
unknown. To rephrase this for music, we can from the culture to an enormous extent and still
roughly say that in a pre-civilized society music retain whatever it has that makes it work, both as a
will be produced by persons whose primary roles vehicle for composition and as a vehicle for
are other than that of musician, for the benefit in improvisation. To this extent I would disagree
some way of the group as a whole, and that music with Mantle Hoods (58) observation that fluency
will normally be tied to and structured by, at least in the art of improvisation means an
in considerable part, external factors of the understanding of not only music but also
culture, factors we would call non-musical. For this language, religious, customs, historyin other
last reason in particular, as well as for the more words, the whole identity of the society of which
predictable reason of probable pre-literacy, there music is only one, but one very important part.
is not likely to be any pure music theory, any And I do not contradict myself if I say that
speculation about why or how the notes relate one securely to entrench oneself in Indian musical
to another. The notes behave the way they do practices requires an intimate acquaintance with
because they do or because they must. the ways in which Indian musicians are
Needless to say, this dichotomy is greatly accustomed to deal with and talk about music. But
over-simplified, even allowing the omission of the the emphasis is on musicians rather than
musical problems of Professor Redfields Indian. One must first revise ones musical
peasant societies, the most difficult of all. habits, not ones cultural ones.
Nonetheless, I think these general contrasts I suppose each of us feels that his own little
between civilized and pre-civilized societies corner has special and unique problems, and
and music make a useful point of departure for perhaps special and unique advantages as well. Let
any discussion about scholarly equipment, and me itemize some of the advantages in working
biases in musical studies. with Indian music. First of all, it is an advantage,
I mean to imply then that in working with at least for a musician, to be working with people
pre-civilized musicand this would include of ones own profession. Second, there is a
tribal music in Indiaone is constrained by the language advantage: in both North and South
culture to work in anthropological terms and with India there are enough intelligent professional
anthropological techniques. But in working with musicians and musical scholars with a good
civilized musicincluding Indian art music as command of English to make shop talk in English
well as Western and other art musicI believe possible, provide one is gradually making oneself
that one is at least permitted by the culture to familiar with the practice of music, and its
work in musical terms, and that the orientation of technical vocabulary. Third, it is an advantage, for
the student and his method of study are as those accustomed to books, to be working in a
much dictated by the nature of the musical literate society; there is much to be learned from
materials themselves and by his own free choices Indian books on music, including many in the
as they can be in our own cultures. English language, in conjunction with direct
The art music of India, perhaps more than observation of practice and granting the normal
critical approach of the scholar.
any other, has shown a gain rather than a loss in
our own time. Some of this gain can be attributed A final advantage, from the point of view of
to the encouragements of cultural nationalism, but direct experience with musical practice, is the fact
for the most part it stems from and is made that Indian art music is both soloistically and
possible by the vitality of the tradition itself, as a vocally oriented: one can spare oneself the time-
tradition of pure music. An Indian may be quite consuming mechanical obstacles of acquiring an
deculturized in religion, manner of thought and instrumental technique before participation and
behavior, domestic practices, and even language, the test of performance becomes possible. Even on
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the rhythmic side, as is well known, anything that understanding of the history and practice of
can be drummed can be said. Indian music has been a failure critically to
I can think of only a single disadvantage in distinguish between theory that reports on theory
working with Indian music and that is the from theory that reports on music, and a failure
necessity of learning to improvise. And yet even critically to examine the relationships of either to
here the difficulty soon becomes an advantage. contemporary practice. There is and has been, in
Once one has learned two or three standard and out of India, a pronounced tendency both to
compositions in a single raga, one is not only try to prove that modern practice can be derived
prepared, one is vastly tempted to extract the from ancient theory and to try to explain ancient
common elements and try a little spontaneous theories from the modern practice.
creation; this becomes an invaluable performance Since this is a real question of appropriate
test of ones analytical abilities and conclusions. methodology, let me illustrate with an example:
I turn now to the question of theory and the question of the relationship of the celebrated
practice in Indian music itself. I have mentioned ancient doctrine of the twenty-two srutis to the
that I consider the presence, survival, or absence modern usages of what we may call microtonal
of a theory of music to be a valuable index of the distinctions and differences. Now these modern
degree of separability of a cultures music from the usages can be explained in terms of purely musical
culture as a whole. Within a particular culture, the function; they originate in fact in very much the
specific relationships of theory to theory, and same ways as the implicit and explicit microtonal
theory to practice, are important on several levels. features and problems of European music from the
One should distinguish basic types of theory. fifteenth to the eighteenth centuries. The question
There is theory that concerns itself with the then becomes, is the sruti-doctrine a continuing
relationship of given musical phenomena to non- doctrine from somewhere in the first millennium
musical ideas or entities and there is theory that AD to the present, a doctrine which has been
attempts to deal with the musical phenomena understood right along as a way of accounting for
themselves. There is also theory, either such microtonal distinctions and differences? Or is
cosmological or technical, that is concerned with a it a doctrine arrived at once on this or any other
specific practice directly and theory that is basis and then respectfully transmitted, but with its
speculative or based on older theory. essential nature forgotten once its original terms of
reference has been replaced?
All these modes of theory are well represented
in India, both in Sanskrit treatises and in modern Two quite different methodological
writings. There are elaborate cosmologies based approaches are needed here. One is musicological:
entirely on sound (not, however, on the to determine whether the twenty-two sruti
mathematics of acoustical relationships), and there doctrine, which has been more or less officially
are the well-known ideas, still surviving in part, adopted in India, is necessary and/or sufficient for
about the physical and ethical properties of ragas. the modern microtonal situation. If it should be
Treatises and passages in treaties, which deal with neither, then must we suppose that the doctrine,
such matters are as a matter of course based on though no longer adequate, still has some
and derived form one another, from a continuing legitimate contemporary basis of meaning because
speculative tradition of such ideas. of a historical continuity? The answer to this part
of the question cannot be got at through
There is also a large body of descriptive and musicology, but only through historical and
prescriptive theory, theory that discusses the textual criticism of the Sanskrit sources, in short
combinations of notes and the combinations of through philology.
rhythms. But here also, there is much which is not
based on the practice of any particular time but Leaving aside ethos and cosmos, and
rather on an older scholastic tradition of such assuming also that we are able to separate out
theory. In this area lies a methodological pitfall for theoretical material based solely on received
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descriptive theory, both ancient and modern, has arisen from my own work is the notion of
which is intimately connected with a practice, in hierarchy of structural levels, with concomitant
that it tells us how the music is supposed to go, techniques for dealing with the relation of
often with schematizations of actual musical ornamental decoration to basic formulas, the
entities and/or hypothetical illustrations in rough relations of basic formulas one to another, and the
letter notation. This kind of theory is generally relation of both to a few simple invariant tonal
more or less concretely intelligible as it relates formations. This may have a familiar sound: it is
more or less closely to some verifiable practice. remarkably like the basic concept and the basic
Certain treatises from the sixteenth to the techniques of the analytical school of Heinrich
eighteenth centuries have enough in common with Schenker. One must remember, of course, that
modern practice so that they become important neither the Western tonal-harmony apparatus and
historical sources for that practice. And there are source material nor the historic and cosmic bias of
many modern books that describe and illustrate Schenkers own work are essential to the basic
ragas, which are important aids to a researcher, principlestructural levelsor the rather intuitive
both in becoming acquainted with musical analytical techniques, the so-called reduction-
materials in the practice, and eventually in techniques of the Schenkerites.
interpreting those materials. Theory of this kind, Since I am insisting that my arrival at these
in its most useful forms, is far less separable from notions for Indian music has been quite
practices in Indian music than it is in any other independent of their usefulness for Western music,
music with which I have any acquaintance, in that let me briefly relate them to some of their Indian
it has a direct, even a governing relationship to points of origin. First and foremost, it is almost
what Mantle Hood (58) calls the maze of immediately apparent in Indian music that the
traditional rules that govern improvisation. In tones, varying somewhat from raga to raga, which
fact it is in those rules, in a sense, or at any rate a may be prolonged without ornamentwe may
codification of them. But Indian descriptive theory call them standing-toneshave a basic and
stops at that point (as, for that matter, does most essentially harmonic register-defining function
descriptive theory, including Western); it does not with respect to the musical formulae which both
attempt seriously to explain or to analyze the include and elaborate them. Second, the elements
relationships among the materials it presents so of ornamented non-standing-tones, which we call
exhaustively; it does not ask why or under what their auxiliary tones, have a clear pitch-
conditions; it simply lists and classifies. connection with the standing-tones, confirming
This being so, one is justified in making ones them as stationary pivots, points of departure, or
own structural analysesindeed, one is forced to goals of motion. In other words, certain non-
do so. But they must be analyses which operate standing-tones are established as passing-tone or
entirely within the domain of Indian art music. neighbor-tone functions with respect to the
One cannot on any a priori grounds adopt methods standing-tones by the auxiliary pitch-
or principles from a discipline, but rather one must components of their ornaments. Third, the
find these methods and principles within the boundary-tones of single phrases in both the pitch
music, and within the modes in which that music and time dimensionsthe high and low points,
is understood by those to whom it belongs. the beginning and pointshave clear-cut and
Once having arrived at those methods and unambiguous functions with respect to the
principles from within the musical practice, standing-tones and their immediate neighbor-tone
however, one is not necessarily bound rigidly to and passing-tone elaborations: they either clearly
eschew non-indigenous theoretical concepts. Since circumscribe a single register or they provide
Indian theory is essentially descriptive rather than connecting and overlapping links into another
analytical, one would indeed expect to have to register. Now many of these crucial functional
infer and to introduce new concepts and new tones have names in Indian terminology, ancient
techniques in analysis. One such concept which and or modern, though no attempt has there been
made to bring them into a single analytical
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pattern, which rationally would account for the recording. Indian music is a living art, showing no
undeniable esthetic unity and consistence of an signs of decay as a whole; in the main tradition, at
Indian raga. And these points find indirect larger- least, what I may miss someone else will pick up.
scale confirmation in many more or less obvious Believing as I do, with Alan Merriam (113), that
characteristics of Indian music. One such the work must be followed through by a single
characteristic is the harmonic parallelism of not investigator, who gathers his materials in the field,
just single tones but of whole phrases or motives; analyzes them himself, and applies the results, I
in such parallels the conflict between the do not propose to record more than experience
parallelism on the one hand and the differing suggests I can handle myself. This means that,
positions of the phrases with respect to the tonic since I do not wish to rely on chance for my
and the principal standing-tones on the other hand material, I must play a definitive role in the
is reflected in slight variations in the ornamental selection of the material to be recorded, though of
detail between a given phrase and its transposition course I may be guided frequently by more
elsewhere by fourth or fifth. Finally, I might add authoritative judgments. This is by no means
that similar and analogous hierarchic structuring impracticable in India. Artists can be found who
can easily be shown in the purely rhythmic are willing to go along with what an experienced
domain of drumming. investigator may feel would constitute a
In fact, given any music in which the notes meaningfully consistent body of repertory, to the
are related one to another more or less best of their abilities and in the light of their own
independently of textual, ritual, or social artistic consciences. Since many of the best artists,
considerations, one suspects that hierarchical levels particularly of younger generations, live in large
and modes of relatedness might be found, and that cities, it is even possible sometimes to make such
some sort of general theory of structural levels recordings under optimum conditions, in a sound-
might well be applicable. In published scores of proof studio, with professional or nearly
both Japanese gagaku and Javanese gamelan professional equipment and staff.
music both ornamental and fundamental musical On the level transcription, analysis, and
entities appear to exist quite clearly, even on the interpretation of such recordings, I have found
surface of the music; and I myself imagine that I that the very process of transcriptionit does not
hear these musics in this way in the large as I do matter into whatassists immeasurably in the
Western and Indian music. I have often wondered understanding of detail, and what is also important
if scholars familiar with such repertories might not at least to me, in improvement of performance. It
find some sort of quasi-Schenkerite structural is a sort of circular process: on the basis of
levels and reductions techniques, inferred and whatever practical experience I already have I
applied from within the particular music in approach the transcription and analysis of a
question, to be useful for study, analysis, and particular item; I already know up to a point how
description of that sort of developed art music. If the music is supposed to go, and in many instances
this were to be so, we would then have an will have studied or even performed the item in
excellent opportunity to try and develop a question. But the process of getting into the jungle
common abstract analytical vocabulary for dealing of ornamental detail, in the sense of having to try
with independently viable, highly contrasted to find a reasonable way of writing it down, is one
musical edifices, including several styles of of the best ways of refining a performance, and it
Western music. carries one a long way towards the intuitive sense
Let me turn now to the more familiar and less of style which one hopes eventually attain.
esoteric and speculative powers of recording, When one is working not with a machine but
learning, and notation, vis--vis the study of with a musician, it is possible to regard that
Indian music. musician as either informant or teacher; my own
For reasons of time as well as money I am not experience is that one has to do both. It is
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oneself in an alien art-music is to immerse oneself ones training is not really essential at all; and one
in the teaching routines which are used for has to badger him on the other hand with
potential native practitioners of that art-music. questions, which are both too trivial and too
This may be a practical necessity in some difficult to be answerable. But as long as the
instances, but it seems to me a little nave as a teacher-informant can put up with trying to
positive principle. In the first place, a foreign answer those questions, one learns a great deal
investigator is not a member of the culture, and from the dialogue.
was not born with that cultures sounds ringing in When one has reached a standard of
his ears. In the second place, a foreign investigator performance reasonably acceptable in Indian
presumably is bringing with him an adults terms, when one has learned to use and
knowledge of his own musical language. We do understand the musical language with reasonable
not normally expect adults to acquire mastery of facility, then is the time to fall into the indigenous
an Indian language by learning it as an Indian teaching patterns. The barrier to communication
child does; by doing so we would forego all the has somehow been breached, and one is
advantages of developed intellect and knowledge henceforth limited not so much by ones
of some language, which an adult possesses, foreignness as by ones talent and industry. But the
without gaining the advantage of the actual breaching of the barrier can be done only
unconditioned tabula rasa of the child. by the student, with his own resources both native
When one is studying Indian music, ones and acquired, even the right teacher can help as
time in India is usually short enough to suggest enormously as the wrong teacher can hinder.
that one bring every intellectual and musical Communication about music, as opposed to
resource which one has to bear on the problems at communication by means of music, means talking,
hand, and that one eschew everything which writing, and especially notation. I would like to
seems non-essential. The early and intermediate consider two aspects of notation: Indian notation
stages of musical training in South India are in the stage of gathering and learning about
designed primarily to acquaint students with musical materials, and notation of whatever sort in
theoretical scale-types and meters and to provide stage of presentation and interpretation of musical
drills in them. Now, unless one is trying it materials.
simultaneously to acquire an instrumental In the past seventy or eighty years, there has
technique, most of this is unnecessary; both been much discussion and experimentation in
theoretical scale-degrees and durations are readily India with notation. There are two basic
transferrable from Western equivalents. But the approaches: in one, which has an abortive
sound-quality, and the incommensurable pitch,
seventeenth-century precursor, two kinds of
dynamic, and rhythmic elements in the symbols are usedletter names for notes and
ornamentation and general style are a different special symbols for ornaments; in the other only
matter.
one kind of symbol is used, the letter names of the
Every Indian child who is about to study notes, and the ornaments are either written out in
music will have these things under considerable small note-values, taken for granted, or described
control already, and of course the teaching verbally. In either of these approaches, or any
routines need not and do not take any account of combination of them, one can of course replace
them. But these are precisely the hardest and most the letters by positions and durations on a five-line
important things for the foreign student to acquire. staff; in either case, the problem is the old onea
They cannot be taught; one has to work them out readable notation communicates only a fraction of
oneself, using whatever methodological and the total sound picture.
psychological crutches one has already at hand or Given an intelligent understanding of the
can devise. On that level, one has to treat ones limited and limiting applicability of any notation, a
teacher as an informant. One has to tell him on Western investigator, culturally conditioned to
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to make fruitful use of Indian notation, both for For transcribing Indian music, I have used
taking down musical materials and as it is used in three different notations, all specifically orientated
Indian books of music in notation. In the learning to Indian music: 1) a simple letter or long-note
process, this can eliminate much wasting of the staff notation, with ornament symbols in great and
teacher-informants time. I found both systems of superimposed profusion, which is usually
notations useful: the ornament symbols, appearing combined with 2) an elaborate written-out
in many different contexts are already a set of notation, usually on the staff, with considerable
terms in one or more analytic categories and the defined conventionalization of the
ornaments written out in small note-values give incommensurable pitch, dynamic, and rhythmic
one at least a crude working outline of the pitch factors; and 3) an aurally transcribed diastematic
and rhythmic components of such ornaments. neumatic notation, a sort of imitation melograph
The first real progress I myself made towards in which the incommensurable factors can be
learning repertory in bulk was through notation. present more suggestively. In all three notations,
My teacher, R. Rangaramanuja Ayyangar, had durations are usually spaced out along the
published a large collection of traditional horizontal axis to whatever degree of refinement
compositions in letter-notation with written-out seems applicable or necessary in any particular
ornaments. Instead of having first to take down a context. Each of these three notations has its
rough sketch of a new composition and slowly particular advantages for the Western reader, and
piece in the details, I was thereby enabled to begin each in its own way is inadequate.
directly with a whole piece, and by going over the One might well ask, why conventionalize the
composition with him in painstaking and painful incommensurable pitch, dynamic, and rhythmic
detail I could discover precisely to what degree the factors when these are among the most important
notation corresponded objectively to the musical factors in the characteristic flavor of Indian music?
gestures. Indeed, much of what I was able to learn Why an imitation melograph rather than a real
in the realm of separating essential from non- one, objectively set down in varying levels of
essential and in the realm of allowable variability complexity and detail by the impersonal electronic
was acquired in the process of questioning my ear and stylus of the machine? The answer to this
teacher about this or that phrase in his notation as is not only to avoid infinite variability,
opposed to his viva voce rendition. unreadability, and confusion, but more
The question of the use of notation for significantly because these factors are mostly
communicating not with oneself or with Indians predictablethey are conditioned by their
but rather with members of ones own culture is contexts. It is up to the investigator to determine
much more difficult. The general problem has what factors are to be brought out in his notation,
been discussed by Charles Seeger. I can only add and what factors are general, and capable of
that it seems to me that it makes a difference general definition. He must decide how much of
whether one is dealing with a civilized music at the non-essential and variable should be included
the apex of the culture of many millions or a pre- in his transcription to make the essential and
civilized music of a whole culture of a few invariable readily apparent to they eye. These
hundred or a few thousand. Universal music decisions can only be made on the basis of his
writing of one sort or another is obviously essential experience with the music itself, and on the basis
for comparative studies of musical materials, and is of his analyses.
probably essential for most work in pre-civilized Perhaps the most important aspect of
or peasant music. In the case of important art notation, when it is used (as it must be studying
music, I am not convinced of its necessity; perhaps non-Western music) for analytical and descriptive
we can afford a certain amount of useful purposes, is its capacity for, so to speak, time-
conventionalization for each separate culture with blind, through its translation of at least some
such music. features of audible sound into visible space.
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like staff notations, one is often able to discover at anthropologistwith the recent appearance of
a glance and demonstrate in a moment important sophisticated instruments for measuring and
relationships which in the real domain of music, weighing music, even by a musically illiterate,
the temporal domain, are widely separated or tone-deaf anthropologist. And an anthropologist is
otherwise concealed, and hence operate only not likely to attach undue importance to the notes
cumulatively and through memory experiences in over against other factors.
subtle ways on the psychic ear. This is the greatest In civilized societies, on the other hand,
argument for using notation in presenting musical most anthropologically oriented persons seem to
materials: it has a tremendous advantage, in be at a loss when it comes to the music as music.
whatever form, for analysis and explanation. But The more the music in a particular culture is
though I must use it for this purpose, I cannot professionalized, the more it depends on
claim it as a satisfactory substitute for the music experience with an understanding of the way the
itself, in attempting to communicate with persons notes fit together, and the more independent it is
who are not already thoroughly familiar with the of other cultural factors.
style of the music. If circumstances permit it at all, This emphatically does not mean that anyone
I prefer to beg the question. If it is a matter of
with so-called musical training is automatically
talking or writing at length about specific processes thereby better qualified to deal with someone elses
in Indian music, I fall back on modern music than anyone without such formal training.
machineryI feel I am bound to illustrate with But I am confident that there will be a high
both live or recorded sound and notated symbol.
correlation between a persons ability to acquire
After all this special pleading and personal and communicate meaningful insights into his own
reminiscence, I come at least to the recapitulation music and his ability to do the same with someone
and code by returning to the opening subject in elses musicprovided always that it is possible in
the original key. the culture under study to make independent
It would appear to me that the investigation of statements about music at all.
music in a pre-civilized society must almost These remarks, furthermore, are not intended
necessarily be done form the point of view of to suggest that one must always approach
music as a part of the culture. At every turn one civilized music, Western or non-Western, from a
seems to be faced with the necessity of talking not culturally separable point of view. Even the purest
so much about the notes themselves as about who pure music belongs to one culture or another, has
makes them, under what circumstances, and for varying uses in the culture, and so on; and all such
what reasons. A mere musicologist, even a very matters can be of interest and importance to an
good one, may find himself at a loss under such understanding of the notes. But I do mean to
circumstances. On the descriptive level, so far at suggest that the more a culture acts as though its
any rate, we are quickly reduced to talking about music had a life of its own, the more it behooves
intervals in cents, scales of 1 to n tones, melodies in an investigator to consider it primarily on that
third-chains or steps, and so on. Very seldom basis. In a highly professionalized art there is likely
however, do we find a musicianin any culture to be a strong feeling of cross-communal and even
who thinks about and understands his music in cross-cultural confraternity among professionals of
such terms, or anything like them, unless there is that art; it seems to be that the quickest and most
already a theoretical base or superstructure effective approach to the inner cultural meaning of
attached to his music, which then makes it, by one that sort of music is to aspire to the condition of a
of my criteria, no longer pre-civilized. Abstract, professional, not to aspire to membership in the
scientific, extra-cultural inferences are useful and culture. And for a musician this is the most easily
interesting, and I do not mean to belittle them. But accessible route to membership in the culture as
they are not musical or even musicological well.
categories, they are ethnological categories, and
they can perfectly well be obtained by an
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Discussion Following Harold Powers Paper

I. What Is Ethnomusicology? Merriam: That seems to be the point that is of


Merriam: I think this is a very interesting prime interest to the whole conference,
distinction, although I abhor the use of the whether if you say it's not ethnomusicology
terms "civilized" and "pre-civilized." But I and I say it's not ethnomusicology and others
think the most interesting point that comes of say it is ethnomusicology, then what do we
this is what I will phrase in terms of a question mean by ethnomusicology? It's obvious that
to you. Do you feel that what you did was you and I have much the same idea.
ethnomusicology? Malm: What would your approach to a "higher
Powers: No. civilization art music" be then? As far as you
Merriam: I thought that would be your answer are concerned, ethnomusicologists dealing
with Indian art music must know who makes
and I think this is a very, very interesting point.
Now I think that on this point you and Bill music, why does he make it, what do people
Malm would have great arguments. think about it, and so on. As far as the product
is concerned, that is irrelevant basically to the
Powers: I think we would; I think we have. equally important questions an
Merriam: But you and I have no arguments on ethnomusicologist should ask about art music.
this point. I don't think it's ethnomusicology Powers: I would agree with that also, but I would
either, but I think Bill will say it is. say that for me the final answer is how does the
Malm: I'll save that for tomorrow's paper. music work. Now I have to know the answers
Powers: Saying that something is done primarily to all of the questions that were asked. Who
from a musicological rather than an makes the music? Why? When? How? I have
anthropological point of view doesn't mean to know the answers to those questions, but my
that one doesn't use a little common sense. interest in the answers to those questions is not
Obviously it doesn't mean that one doesn't to get those answers but rather to find out
even read anthropological journals. It's very what bearing this has on the way the music
helpful to read what someone says about "How works.
I worked with my informant in South Tuul" or Merriam: Of course this is a matter of emphasis. I
something. You pick up all sorts of lovely feel for me as an anthropologist it is more
pointers on how you work with your teacher important to know the answers to the other
from that sort of thing, but this is a sort of kinds of questions.
borrowing on a very amateurish level. This is Garfias: You seem to be agreeing here that the
not professional anthropology or even cultural context and the music itself are of
professional ethnomusicology, I would say. I equal importance.
mean, I dealt with my piano teacher in the
same way. Powers: I didn't agree to that. I think Alan is
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the cultural situation whereas I am interested The musicologist's primary concern is the
in the cultural situation as a clue to the music. object itself. What makes this basket tick?
Garfias: That isn't what I thought we had agreed What are the materials involved? How is it
to. made up? What is its form? What are its
determinants?
Merriam: I thought we were talking about what
ethnomusicology is and we were saying that Powers: I love it and I want to make one like it.
the two sides of it, the music side or the culture (Laughter)
side, were equally important to understand in Hood: I would say that the anthropologist is going
ethnomusicology. I thought we agreed here to miss some of what is symbolized if he
that, for me, the interest of one is high whereas doesn't have a pretty thorough understanding
the interest of the other is high for you. But of the object itself. Vice versa, I would think
that has nothing to do with what the musicologist is going to miss really
ethnomusicology is. comprehending the object itself if he doesn't
Powers: Well, I'm not sure that it doesn't. I'm not understand some of its symbolism in society.
sure that it matters whether you have to decide That's how I would like to try to begin to
what ethnomusicology is or what it isn't. To define ethnomusicology. It's these two
paraphrase a famous remark, elements in whatever limited measure one
"Ethnomusicology is what ethnomusicologists person and his background can combine them.
do." Powers: It is a question, first of all, of the
Merriam: Providing you can discover who is in relationship of the music to the culture as a
ethnomusicology. You have removed yourself whole. In certain cultures, the most efficient
from the class, which is your decision to make, initial method is the musical one, and in other
but I felt you were making that decision on the cultures, the most efficient initial method is to
basis of your and my understanding of what study the culture as a whole. In the end we
ethnomusicology is. have to know all of the answers to all of the
questions, and of course we never will.
Garfias: It seems to me that essentially we are
talking about music, and anthropology or the Seeger: Couldn't we grant that the musicological
cultural context should qualify or explain or set viewpoint and the anthropological viewpoint
the limits of what we are working at. in any music produce two different views, two
It's as if we go to study basketry and study who different accounts of one and the same object?
makes baskets where, why, and when. In other words, anthropology tells you
something about the music which musicology
Everything there is, except how the baskets are
actually made. If you are a basket maker, your doesn't and vice versa. Until you connect those
primary center of interest is the material itself two things, you are not making use of what we
that you are working with and, while the might call the ethnomusicological viewpoint.
cultural context may be important, it only sets It's the connection of the two things that makes
ethnomusicology.
the limits or throws more light on the things
you are really working on. Powers: There's a great deal in what you say. On
Merriam: We have a flat disagreement. the other hand, if you are talking just in terms
of efficiency and meaningful statements, it
Garfias: We do. seems to me that there are approaches and
Hood: The two ends, I think, are two disciplines. I ways of describing the phenomenon that can
would like to think ethnomusicology is another be more meaningfully described from a
discipline and I think both anthropology and primarily anthropological oriented point of
musicology have much to contribute. The view. I think that from certain points of view,
anthropologist is primarily interested in what certain kinds of music are less interesting than
the object symbolizes and wants to know what they are from other viewpoints.
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Seeger: I wouldn't admit your "more meaningful" other questions in the process. Now you will
criterion. I'm trying to lay the thing out in such not get enough answers to the other questions
a way that we can unify these two opposed to be able to answer the questions about the
views of music, and not give an music in culture that Alan would ask. I could
anthropological description of one music and a tell him a great deal about specific details here
musical description of another. It seems to me and there relating to these questions. But as for
that that would produce anarchy in the study formulating a general answer to the historical
of music. and present position of music in Indian
Rogers: The same sort of controversy exists in culture, I couldn't give him any better answer
other fields. Erwin Panofsky distinguishes the than anybody else that would spend a few
connoisseur from the historian. The years there.
connoisseur uses the historical background, Morton: Do you think the social context of music
culture and so forth, to investigate the work of in this so-called "high art culture" of India is
art. The art historian uses the work of art to less important than in a culture where the
investigate the culture or civilization, that is, music was in a "pre-civilized" state.
the collective activity of men that has some sort Powers: Yes, I do. This idea of whether music is
of meaning--life. culturally separable or not (leaving aside the
McKinnon: I was thinking in terms of a possible question of how you determine that) has a very
parallel between some people's conception of important bearing. In some cultures you
the literary historian and of the literary critic. simply cannot study the music independently.
What often happens is that a literary historian There is no way you can get at it. You can't
may find himself, either by choice or by ask them questions that they can answer and in
limitations of time, using literary drama to certain cultures even if you are an honorary
explain the historical and cultural setting. member of the tribe, you still may not be
allowed to perform certain pieces in the
II. Categorization into Art, Folk, Primitive, appropriate cultural circumstances and
contexts.
and Popular
The test of performance has always been the
Morton: Would you say you were dealing, in a
final test on my findings. I work up a theory
phrase we are getting rather fond of using,
and then I apply it to my performance and if
with music in terms of itself only then and not
the social context? the teacher says, "Yes, yes, your performance
is fine, it's improved considerably," then I think
Powers: No, I wouldn't go that far. I would say that there is something in the theory. Judging
that obviously one has to be interested in the from the reports that I have read, in working
social context of the music. with a pre-civilized society, this is often just
Morton: I got the feeling that you suggested it plain impossible. You really can't approach the
could be by-passed in your particular case. music from that point of view. You can't
Powers: Well, I was suggesting that if you put the separate it from other things. So this culturally
emphasis on the music itself that you would find separable aspect, if it can be defined or
what you need. Now I am talking about art organized in any way, I feel is a very important
music and I would use cultural criteria, not aspect of music and I think it should be
musical ones, for defining art music. I would determined primarily on cultural rather than
try to find such criteria. But once having musical terms.
decided that something is art music on Hood: The idea of strata seemed to me a good
intuitive or rationalistic grounds, I would say one. I can think of a number of different
that the best thing to do is to learn music and musical cultures that might yield to this kind of
to learn it any way you can, and that you will approach. Secondly, I like what you said about
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around to handling yourself analytically. I conscious theory behind them. They don't
think that's fine. There are a lot of individuals verbalize in that sense, but they are certainly
who are devoted entirely to the opposite not illiterate when it comes to their music.
objective of just recording everything they can, Their critical judgment is very fine.
and they'll never look at it. I suppose we need Powers: There are two different kinds of ways of
both kinds. talking about music. I was taken to task once
I would heartily agree that notation is essential for saying in the review of a book that in folk
and has all kinds of usages, and it should exist music the question of right and wrong notes
in many forms depending on the purpose it does not occur. It was pointed out that
serves: communication, study or analysis. Leadbelly or someone would be easily able to
Further, I would say that probably the ultimate tell whether something was right or wrong.
is the sound of the music itself, in situ. I think This is not, of course, what I meant. The point
the tape recording that was heard here earlier is that there are certain kinds of mistakes that I
is a terribly flat, thin thing compared to can make in performing Indian music which
hearing a large gamelan in a formal pendapa an Indian can tell me right away are mistakes,
surrounded by a lot of Javanese in a humid, on a pure "yes" or "no" basis and in terms
tropical atmosphere. I think there is a great which I can understand immediately.
difference. This is certainly not true in the case of Anglo-
Now, if I can go on the offensive, I really American folk music. A folk singer can tell you
despair of these terms "civilized, pre-civilized, that you have done it wrong but it is virtually
peasant," whether you attribute them to impossible for him to tell you how or why.
Redfield or not, or "primitive, half-civilized, Now the Javanese musician who could tell
and civilized." These are odious terms. We do Mantle he was playing flat but didn't think to
not need them and I would beseech us not to do it, that is quite a different kind of distinction
take refuge in them. They serve no purpose from the kind of distinction I am trying to
Powers: The terms are bad, but are you saying "to make here. He knew. He even used the
hell with the terms" or "to hell with the Javanese word for flat and sharp. When you
categories?" have a culture that has words of that kind, if he
Hood: Categories. And the terms. Even if we can tell you that note was too low or too high
found softer terms for these categories, so far and if this is something he learned himself and
as I am aware, they don't exist any more than could have described and saved you all those
the terms, "art, folk, primitive, and pop." I hours of work, this is already on the way to
having a theory.
don't believe in these terms. I see in the
Western world confusion over them and when I haven't been able to find really good minimal
you get to South America or Africa or the criteria for what constitutes theory and what
Orient with them, they are just no good. doesn't. I think it would be something like
There's nothing useful about them. names for the notes or names for phrases. I am
From the standpoint of relative involvement, of well aware that in certain kinds of music in
music in social context, that is a very slippery many different parts of the world, people have
one. Much of the social context that I have names for the strings on the instrument. When
observed is below the surface. It's not they use the same name for the pitch produced
something that bangs you over the head. The by the instrument and the pitch produced by
extent to which there may or may not be the singer, then you have, in a sense, a kind of
verbal intercourse about music seems to me an abstract category and that is the beginning of
art music.
invalid judgment. I know the musicians I got
involved with in Africa for a very limited time McAllester: I would like to make a plea for some
were certainly not the equivalent of Indian kind of terminology. I think that there are
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and other things. To say that it's pejorative to cultures, in the end it is the material itselfthe
discriminate between degrees in which the musical material and its position in the
music is integrated into the whole culture is to culturewhich has to determine the
warp our view of cultures, because I feel these categories, not some rationalistic, a priori,
differences myself very much. Linnaean scheme, which you make up in
I am working in a culture where the music is advance. You make up a scheme, of course, as
tremendously integrated with religion, drama, best you can, but you are constantly changing
art, etc. and could clearly be called "pre- and modifying it as the material requires you
literate," although I don't like the term, to.
because it implies that they will eventually Seeger: A primitive tune from Tierra del Fuego
come to be literate. In Navajo culture there has just as much right to be called "art" as a
isn't even a word for music. If I wanted to get Beethoven symphony.
some general statements about how people felt Powers: By all means, but I didn't mean to use the
about music, you just couldn't ask such a term "art music" or "pre-literate" or "civilized"
question. I feel that you need terminology to or any other term in any sense other than as
describe a culture like that and that it is useful an abstract designation for a kind of category.
to have it. If there is any implication in anything I have
Malm: I think that music serves a folksy, popular, said of a critical evaluation of some of these
or artistic function in every single society. In things, I certainly didn't mean it to be there.
Africa, India, or Japan there are certain
musics, which I would consider "artsy" and III. Field Work Problems
certain musics, which I would consider to be
"folksy," and something in between which I Hood: I tried this technique, too, on the rabab to
would call "popular." I would fight against find out how you improvise, but I think you
lumping all music into some big, nebulous glob have to be a little careful. Kunst arrived at the
and saying "This is music." conclusion that slendro was intended to be
equidistant. As one of his verbal arguments he
Powers: This is something that one ought to look mentioned the fact that he had a Javanese
into, but I would be very surprised if the instrument tuned equidistantly, as precisely as
criteria used to distinguish between art, folk,
he could, using a monochord. He had a
and popular in one society would work in
Javanese musician play on this and asked, "Is
another. If you applied them as a priori that a good slendro? He said, "Yes, it is very
methodological distinctions, you would find nice." Well, he would have been rude to say it
that one category or another did not, in fact, isn't quite right. Now when I was there many
exist in a given society.
years later, the leading musician of Djojagkarta
Malm: Well, I am very anxious to put it to the test. attempted to give me some theory. He wanted
In the test I think the anthropologist would to discuss slendro when we were first trying to
have the floor, because it is a functional test. figure out how to play slendro on the rabab and
Merriam: I do not think you would find a he said, "You must know that slendro is
functional distinction. I think that for a equidistant." I sat there sinking into the floor
Basongye, you would find a popular music and because I had really spent a lot of time in my
another kind of music. I don't think there is a own way establishing that it wasn't. Then he
"right" name for it. But I do not think you said, "That is only theory." Actually, he
would find a folk, art, or a popular distinction. explained that they never play it equidistant.
Powers: I would like to try and find some In short, I think we have to be careful, being
categories that seem to me to work for the intruders in asking "How about this? Is this
particular material in question. In other words, okay?" And having them say, "That is not bad,
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McAllester: I don't look very much like a Navajo,


but people would ask me very seriously,
"Aren't you really a Navajo?" on the basis of
my singing a Navajo song very badly. Not
because I did it so well, but because no one
except a Navajo would even try, and there are
Navajos who do it even worse than I do! So
there are all kinds of levels of being a "native."
One last point I wanted to make was the
question: are you listening to music to learn
about the culture, or are you learning the
culture to know about the music. I dont know
which Im doing. It varies at different times.
Sometimes Im finding out about the culture in
order to understand the music better, and
sometimes Im looking for things in the culture
that the music reveals. Im sure all of us get
into this fix eventually were working in any
music. It is no longer clear that we have one
bias or the other, but that we get involved in
the whole picture.

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