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American Students Love Socialism (Just Don't Ask Them What It Is)
by Tyler Durden
Jul 17, 2017 9:00 PM
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Authored by Cabot Phillips via CampusReform.org,

Ask most college students, and they'll tell you that socialism is a wonderful thing. Just don't ask them to define it, because
you'll get the same answer.
Last year, a poll was released showing 53 percent of Americans under age 35 are dissatisfied with our nations current
economic system and think socialism would be good for the country.
The same poll found that 45 percent of young Americans would be willing to support an openly socialist Presidential candidate.
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The findings of this poll coincide with the rise of Senator Bernie Sanders, an avowed Democratic Socialist from Vermont who
received millions of votes in the 2016 Democratic Primary, many of them from millennials.
While its clear that young people increasingly view socialism in a positive light, its also clear that many of them are
uneducated about what it entails, or the impact its had throughout history.
The same poll found many millennials are unfamiliar with historical figures often associated with socialism, such as Che
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The same poll found many millennials are unfamiliar with historical figures often associated with socialism, such as Che
Guevara, Joseph Stalin, and Karl Marx.
Wanting to see what millennials in D.C. thought of socialism, Campus Reform headed to Washington, D.C. to ask students two
simple questions: Do you like socialism? and What is socialism?
It quickly became clear that while most of the people we spoke with held an idyllic view of socialism, most had little idea of
what it actually is.
Students Love Socialism... But Can't De ne What It Is
One student said of socialism, I think people throw that word around to try and scare you, but if helping people is
socialism, than Im for it.
When asked how she would define socialism, her answer was simple: I mean honestly Im not not exactly sure.
I guess just, you know, getting rid of that wealth gap in the United States? ventured another.
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One student supported it passionately, saying Its more of an open form of government and it feels a lot more accessible to
a lot more people, but when asked to explain what socialism actually entails, could only repeat now-common refrain: To be
quite honest I dont know.
Watch the full video to see what else students had to say about socialism!
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nmewn Jul 17, 2017 8:02 PM

Feel The Bern ;-)
sp0rkovite nmewn Jul 17, 2017 8:05 PM

sp0rkovite nmewn Jul 17, 2017 8:05 PM
A better question is where does free market capitalism exist? It sure isn't in the US, maybe Somalia. I'm sick of all
this cold war red scare bullshit.
overbet sp0rkovite Jul 17, 2017 8:07 PM

On the dark web.
Beam Me Up Scotty overbet Jul 17, 2017 8:09 PM

Free market capitalism doesn't exist in the US. That is why we are swirling the drain.
Al Gophilia Beam Me Up Scotty Jul 17, 2017 8:22 PM

The Constitution of the Republic of America is the least understood document in the United States. That is why
we are swirling the drain.
http://terrenceberres.com/broame.html. This is 400 pages of explanations. Too long for Americans to start,
much less finish. This, as well as Bastiat's essay, The Law, once read for understanding, would be accepted as
mandatory study in all civics classes across the land. Period.
Edit: Except in CNN land. They'd promote The Republic as a communist plot.
J S Bach Al Gophilia Jul 17, 2017 8:40 PM

I don't care how prejudiced this sounds, but 95% of the "students" attending these diploma mills are not worthy
of the title, "Collegiate".
Higher education is for those CAPABLE of higher education. The corrupt system that has infused itself into our
institutions since 1955 has thoroughly debased all standards and enabled every featherless biped to have access
to these facilities along with their bequeathed honorific-sheepskins of knowledge. What are the results? Behold,
ye ignorant plebs.
vato poco J S Bach Jul 17, 2017 8:58 PM

"the teacher told us to never to question anything she said in class, so we naturally obeyed unquestioningly"
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chumbawamba Four chan Jul 18, 2017 3:59 AM

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Victor von Doom chumbawamba Jul 18, 2017 6:34 AM

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divingengineer J S Bach Jul 17, 2017 9:06 PM

They have reason to feel the way they do.
Their future has been stolen by bankers and shitheel politicians.
The wealth of 200 million people has been looted and shared by a couple thousand thieves.
They are looking for answers, socialism's siren song has drawn millions of disaffected youth. It is a symptom of
the zeitgeist.
J S Bach divingengineer Jul 17, 2017 9:48 PM

Then, divingengineer... if they were capable of "higher education"... they would know to LOOK for those answers
and THINK about those mere thousand thieves who have stolen their futures. But, alas, most of those
collegiates are not capable of this higher reasoning (hence, proving my point). Instead, they will follow the very
entity which has enslaved them and given them a $50,000 student loan debt. In a moribund way, the
manipulators are admirable in their ability to move this multitude of "scholars" in their sway toward their ends of
disolution.
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Victor von Doom J S Bach Jul 18, 2017 6:36 AM

Indeed, J S Bach - they may be able to "think" about something, but they sure as hell cannot ponder.
runnymede J S Bach Jul 18, 2017 2:49 PM

The best articulation I have read on this subject is:
The Theory of Education in the United States by Nock
It's the transcripts of a series of lectures that are priceless. It is in the public domain so it is free to download in
several places. I have a version that works well with android and kindle.
The Law of Diminishing returns is universal. See: education.

The trick was to blur/obliterate the line distinguishing education from training. We use the word education,
when a more accurate description would be training for what students today receive. A paraphrase from the
speech-- 'education, given a suitable candidate, can produce an Emerson. Training can produce an Edison.
Candidates suitable for education are rare. Candidates suitable for training are numerous'....
Granted very few potential Edisons out there, but unless someone is a complete imbecile, they can be trained in
something useful. It's unfortunate that we pretend that most people are educable. The waste if resources is
staggering ---- diminishing returns. Most post-high school kids should and could receive useful skill in say a
year to get a decent job. And save themselves and taxpayers a lot of money. But .gov has everyone convinced
they need a university credential and a shit load of debt---when they are still basically as ignorant as the day
they first set foot on campus.
nidaar Al Gophilia Jul 17, 2017 8:23 PM

"Any man who is not a socialist at age 20 has no heart. Any man who is still a socialist at age 40 has no head."
Al Gophilia nidaar Jul 17, 2017 8:31 PM

My dear departed uncle noted; "Al, if you haven't ridden a motorcyle by the time you're 17, you have no balls,
(pregnant pause) but if you haven't stopped by the time you're 50, you have no brains.
847328_3527 Al Gophilia Jul 17, 2017 8:35 PM

Even the Russians wised up 25 years ago about socialism. Too bad Americans are so dumbed down: Major
Soviet Paper Says 20 Million Died As Victims of Stalin

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/04/world/major-soviet-paper-says-20-milli...
Shemp 4 Victory 847328_3527 Jul 17, 2017 9:33 PM

...and then when they opened the Soviet archives in the 90s, they discovered the real number was between
600,000 and 800,000.
But yes, you are correct, Americans are dumbed down because, after a lifetime of Red Scare propaganda, they still
believe all the myths they were programmed with.
Stalin's purges are rather interesting when you learn who was purged.
There is a general consensus amongst pro and anti Soviet historians that some of the most vicious and
horrible political repressions in the Soviet Union took place between 1934 and 1937 when the secret
(political) police was headed by two truly demonic figures, Genrikh Yagoda and Nikolai Ezhov. And yet, the
so-called Great Purges (1936-1938) also cover the time when the famous Lavrentii Beria became the head
of secret (political) police. But ask yourself, if these are purges then was exactly was purged? The
peasants? The clergy? The petty bourgeois or maybe the nobility? Not at all, it was the Party and, first and
foremost, the secret (political) police, i.e. exactly the people who were guilty of the atrocities committed
between 1934 and 1937. In fact a lot of them were specifically executed for treason, abuse of power,
illegal executions, etc.
http://thesaker.is/the-controversy-about-stalin-a-basket-of-preliminary-...
And the Trotskyists that Stalin didn't get to moved to America and started the political movement that became
neoconservatism.
michigan independant Shemp 4 Victory Jul 17, 2017 11:01 PM

How close wasTrotsky toDaniel Bell who captured the syncretic nature of neoconservatism when he described
himself as a socialist in economics, a liberal in politics, and a conservative in culture. On one level,
neoconservatism certainly is a syncretic mode of thinking, but neoconservatismisin fact "as he asserted"
comprehensive political philosophy shaped most fundamentally by the ideas of Leo Strauss via Irving Kristol? On
the surface I incline to your comment.
veritas semper ... Shemp 4 Victory Jul 18, 2017 12:16 AM

He sacked Trotsky .With an ice pick to the skull.There must have been some good in him.
bobdog54 847328_3527 Jul 17, 2017 10:53 PM

Ripe for the picking, the brain dead libs have been fertilizing the young with bullshit for two generations.
Dumbed down isn't a strong enough descriptor.
Cephisus Al Gophilia Jul 17, 2017 8:42 PM

Similiar Quote..... If you are under 30 and a Republican, you have no heart. If you are over 40 and a Democrat, you
have no self-made money.
greenskeeper carl nidaar Jul 17, 2017 8:40 PM

I guess i never had a heart. I was complete GOPer when I was 20, to my lasting embarassment. Became a
libertarian in my mid 20s, not really sure what I am now other than pissed off.
bobdog54 greenskeeper carl Jul 17, 2017 10:55 PM

Carl - think "freedom loving American" and you may have your answer.
runnymede greenskeeper carl Jul 17, 2017 11:45 PM

runnymede greenskeeper carl Jul 17, 2017 11:45 PM
Glad to see you are shedding labels and are embracing your true inalienable right to think for and define
yourself. Its a process seemingly few get to experience. Most humans appear to be given the unfortunate gift of
immunity by nature and are destined to be someone else's plaything
GUS100CORRINA nidaar Jul 17, 2017 8:43 PM

American Students Love Socialism (Just Don't Ask Them What It Is)
My response: DEFINITION OF TERMS is really important in any discussion. By the way, our elected officials
(especially PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS) start arguing with people without really understanding what they are
defending.
Ad hominem attacks always occur when there is confusion or a sense that the position being defended is
indefensible, DEMOCRATS are masters of ad hominem attacks.
Definition of terms is the key.
nmewn GUS100CORRINA Jul 17, 2017 8:56 PM

Definition of terms is key, thats why this insipid admonition for no "ism's" by socialists in any discussion.
Canary Paint GUS100CORRINA Jul 17, 2017 9:06 PM

I agree. I have been poking around a bit because I did not feel I understood the terms so well and maybe was
even getting dumber as I seem to see a lot of folks who think either "Socialism is government regulations and
stuff!" or "Socialism is being nice to people and stuff!"
While I have made some progress, I have limited time. I would like to read a book that is a point by point
comparison between two countries to give concrete examples of how one is more socialist than another.
I think some from the right view taxation as a form of socialism since it redistributes profits. I think some from
the left would not share this view saying that if the capital in the company is owned by individuals, how could it
be socialism?
Are subsidies of certain sectors socialism?

Is Airbus partially socialized because state actors own some of its capital?
At least, I am still learning, and I learned from this article that if folks with cameras walk up to me and start
asking questions, keep my damned mouth shut or risk being a YouTube clown ;-)
runnymede Canary Paint Jul 17, 2017 11:39 PM

Canary:
Two books: Our Enemy the State by Albert J. Nock
The Road to Serfdom by F. A. Hayek

If you have sufficient cognitive abilities, which you appear to do, Read Nock. He is powerful; a force of nature.
You will not be able to unread him.
Then read Hayek to understand the structure of collectivism
Canary Paint runnymede Jul 18, 2017 11:55 AM

Thanks for the suggestions!
Victor von Doom nidaar Jul 18, 2017 6:37 AM

True enough. I never had a heart.
general ambivalent Beam Me Up Scotty Jul 17, 2017 9:28 PM

Problem is that free market capitalism can't exist. Ask any of its true believers for a definition and they will give
you nonsense or something that could only ever work on paper.
And that's because it is nothing more than a fairy tale for servants of the state to get them to work harder. All of
the preconditions for capitalism are large nationalist states, and ironically it was absolutist monarchies which set
up capitalism.
TeamDepends overbet Jul 17, 2017 8:09 PM

Yeah sure, the socialists have cornered the tiger penis market.
TeamDepends TeamDepends Jul 17, 2017 8:35 PM

Why do socialists hate the truth?
new game TeamDepends Jul 17, 2017 8:51 PM

the lust for something for nothing gets humans. their achiles heal. free this free that, sells easy. suckers come
running for something free. like rat traps. snap, baby snap-ouu that pain, i think i'm gonna die...
nmewn overbet Jul 17, 2017 8:11 PM

Nobody wants to say it but thats what it really is.
Mercado Negro ;-)
general ambivalent nmewn Jul 17, 2017 9:32 PM

Paedophiles, drug addicts, and psychopaths? Sounds like you guys are even more critical than the socialists.
Perhaps there is hope.
nmewn general ambivalent Jul 18, 2017 6:41 AM

Even really crazy shit, like gun running to overthrow dictatorships ;-)
dark pools of soros overbet Jul 17, 2017 9:08 PM

Silk Road shined the light... too many were scared to defend it

Occident Mortal sp0rkovite Jul 17, 2017 8:09 PM

Democracy is a wonderous thing.
No matter how sophisticated your own political understanding your opinion is worth no more than these feckless
goons.
Bigly Occident Mortal Jul 17, 2017 8:19 PM

This is the kind of shit that makes me throw up my hands.
These people are SO stupid.

1. They should not be able to vote.
2. Involutarily sterilize each of them.
Al Gophilia Bigly Jul 17, 2017 8:25 PM

These interviewees have just been selected for grooming as future leaders of the the major political parties.
juangrande Bigly Jul 17, 2017 8:32 PM

Go to bumfuck ( insert state ). Ask them what is capitalism and get ready for the same ignorance. Ask them what
is a democratic republic. I'm sure Walmart will be part of the answer.

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runnymede J S Bach Jul 18, 2017 2:49 PM

The Law of Diminishing returns is universal. See: education.

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847328_3527 Al Gophilia Jul 17, 2017 8:35 PM

Shemp 4 Victory 847328_3527 Jul 17, 2017 9:33 PM

michigan independant Shemp 4 Victory Jul 17, 2017 11:01 PM

veritas semper ... Shemp 4 Victory Jul 18, 2017 12:16 AM

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GUS100CORRINA nidaar Jul 17, 2017 8:43 PM

Definition of terms is the key.

nmewn GUS100CORRINA Jul 17, 2017 8:56 PM

Canary Paint GUS100CORRINA Jul 17, 2017 9:06 PM

Are subsidies of certain sectors socialism?

runnymede Canary Paint Jul 17, 2017 11:39 PM

The Road to Serfdom by F. A. Hayek

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Bigly Occident Mortal Jul 17, 2017 8:19 PM

These people are SO stupid.

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