[Year]

A CRITIQUE OF LECTURE
OF ENGINEER
MUH:AMMAD ALI:
MIRZA OF JHELUM IN
WHICH HE ASCRIBED
BLASPHEMUOUS
SENTENCES TO
SCHOLARS OF
AHLUSSUNNAH

[A CRITIQUE OF LECTURE OF
HUSAMULLAH

ENGINEER ALI: MIRZA: IN

WHICH HE ASCRIBES
BLASPHEMUOUS SENTENCES
TO SCHOLARS OF
AHLUSSUNNAH ,PART -1]
[A CRITIQUE OF LECTURE OF
ENGINEER ALI: MIRZA: IN
WHICH HE ASCRIBES
BLASPHEMUOUS SENTENCES
TO SCHOLARS OF
AHLUSSUNNAH]
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Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a Ra:fid:i: yet he has partial tendencies of Kh:ava:rij. The question is what are the
main features of a the Sect of Kh:ava:rij.

1]All Kh:va:rij declare the following S:ah:abah as Ka:fir or Not A Mumin.

[Nau:dh:ubillah]

1.1] Saiyiduna: Uth:ma:n RD:

1.2] Saiyiduna: Ali: RD:

1.3] Saiyiduna: Mua:viah RD:

1.4] They even declare Saiyidatuna: A:ishah RD: as Kafir /Ka:firah [Naudh:billah].

2]The were extremists in Takfi:r and they use to declare any one as Ka:fir even on the Issues of ijtiha:d.

This is the tendency that is found in Engineer Ali: Mirza:. How ever this tendencies has some limits in
the case of the Heretic and Apostate Engineer.

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Engineer Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum declares a large number of Scholars who are either Ahlussunnah or are
ascribed to Alussunnah as disrespecting or blaspheming ALL-H,RASU:L and Some Basis Principles of
Isla:m.

From Mudaddid Alf Th:a:ni Rh to Maulana: Ashraf Ali: Thanvi Rh, Engineer Ali Mirza: is declares every
one of them as a disrespector of Holy Personalities , Principles of Isla:m and even Divine Essence
Himself.

He even accuse Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili: as a disrespector of Religion, and Holy Personalities, and
Divine Essence Himself. He declares Ibn Arabi as Disrespetor.

The problem is that the believes in the literal meaning of any portion of text that is necessary to be
interpreted and not to be taken in Literal meaning.

That is why he declares Ima:m Ibn Taimiah Rh: as Commiter of Kufr.

Why does Engineer Ali: Mirza: does not interpret a proof text which may have some objectionable
literal meaning.

This tendency is inherited to Engineer Ali: Mirza: from his former teacher the simple minded Zubair Ali:
Zai.

Unfortunately Zubair Ali: Zai had takfiri: tendencies. He did not believe that Scholars of Hanafites are
Muslim. Similarly he did not believe a number of S:u:fiah as Muslim. So this is the reason he even
borrowed objections of Ah:mad Rada: of Bans Baraili against great H:anafi: Scholars. But he even
accused Ah:mad Rad:a: Of Bans Baraili as Blasphemer and a disgracer as well.

He did completed the incomplete circle of Takfi:r made by Ah:mad Rad:a of Bans Baraili and enclosed
even Ah:mad Rada: of Bans Baraili in the circle. But this was not the end of the work. Soon Zubair Ali:
Zai made the circle an Ellipse and included some of the great Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars in its
circumference.

But there are several possible interpretations and explanations of such proof texts which prevents a
person from Takfi:r.

In books of Fiqh it is written that if there are hundred meanings of a text and ninety nine of them are
pure kufr and just one of them is isla:m even then the author of the text cannot be declared as Ka:fir or
Commitor of Kufr.

But this is still a subcase. The truth is that which may be given in the following mathematical form.

Let T be a Text ant Let n be a number of interpretations, explanations, meanings of the Text.

Let n be a Natural Number how so ever large, . Let (n-1) of these meanings, interpretations etc. are Kufr.

Let only one of them is Not Kufr . In this case the author of the Text is a Muslim and not a Ka:fir and the
Text is not Kufr. Obviously n canbe greater than 100 [Hundred].

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In may cases Zubair Ali: Zai made his own scenario to declare a person as Ka:fir.

I my self wrote against Zubair Ali:, in my personal questionnaire to Zubair Ali: Zai. But he was unable
to response properly.

I did ask what you say about Saiyiduna: Sha:h isma:i:l Shahi:d since he believed in a particular type of
Vah:datul Vuju:d. Was he Ka:fir according to you? Zubair Ali Zai did not respond. For he was afraid that
I may take his epistle to different scholars of Ahlul H:adi:th: and may ask them to comment on this
Zubair Ali Zai.

When he declared Ahlussunnah Deoband has Ka:fir on the issue of Per Se Contingency of
Falsehood/Falsity in the Divine Statements [Assertive and Negative Sentences] and said some disgrace
words and sentences against some scholars of Ahlussunnah Deoband particularly Maula:na: Rashi:d
Junjuhi/Gunguhi:, I immediatlely wrote What does you say about Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d in this regard.

I also quoted from Yakrozah Shari:f, yet there was no response. But latter he received a oral message
through one of his students that he did not consider even Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d as Muslim.

Zubair Ali: Zai also said some disrespecting sentences against Ima:m Suyu:t:I, Ibn H:ajr, Maulana
Nava:b S:iddi:q, Maulana: Th:ana:ullah Amrithsari, and even to Ima:m Sh-u-ka:ni: Rahmatullah Alihim
. Zubair . Greate Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars advised him to not become a Takfiri:.

But Zubair Ali: Zai did not listen.

After his death I received a response of him through one of the narrators.

If the texts of these persons can be interpreted then there are some similar texts in the books of some
persons who are agreed to be Ka:fir, by all. So what is the discriminent .

Why there texts are not interpreted.

But by the time I received this report Zubair Ali: Zai had passed away to face the Divine Essence for his
deeds and astray from Ahlul H:adith: and Maligning Ahlul H:adi:th: and confusing Ahlul H:adi:th: with
Kh:va:rij.

Although he was no more yet I responded to the argument and it shall be given below.

Zubair Ali: Zai did condemn scholars like Ima:m Gha:za:li, Ima:m Suyu:t:i:, Mujaddid alf Th:ani, Shah
Abdul Azi:z, Sha:h Isma:i:l. Saiyid Ah:mad Shahi:d,Maula:na Qa:sim Nanautavi, Maulana: Kh:ali:l
Ah:mad Muha:jir Madani, Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Maulana Nava:b S:iddi:q ,Maulana Nadh:i:r
Dhalivi,Ima:m Sh-u:-ka:ni etc. He was a Takfi:ri and a Tafsi:qi mechine. But may of his Tafi:ra:t and
Tafsiqa:t were oral and due to possible reaction of Scholars of ahlul H:adi:th: he was careful in his
writings. Yet he had great respect for Maula:na: Irsha:dul Haqq Atha:ri. On some occasions he
remained silence due to the fear that he might be contradicted by this great scholar.

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After the death oF Zubair Ali: Zai many supporters and assistants of Zubair Ali: Zai reverted to the
mainstream of Ahlul H:adi:th: . One of the great Nouns is Abu: Ja:bir Da:ma:nvi who reverted from his
views against Yazi:d, and said that his book about Yazi:d is an error of past , and now he abrogate
[Tansi:kh:] it.

Now we come to point out that Engineer Ali: Mirza who is a cunning enemy of S:aha:bah and Sunni
Scholars did borrowed from Zubair Ali: Zai but he never condemned the Rava:fid: for any thing in their
works. Uptill now Engineer Ali : Mirza: has advocated Rava:fid: and he is as silent as churchs mice
against them and their scholars. Why? Because he want to convey an implicit massage to those who
have not studied the books and works of Rava:fid: scholars that infidelity particularly blasphemy is found
in the books and works of Ahlussunnah s scholars and it is absent from the books of Rava:fid: scholars.

Some of our students did face a situation when two audiences of Engineer stated the same thing stated
above when they were argued by the argument that Engineer Ali: Mirza: accuse Ahlussunnah Scholars
of different subsects of Ahlussunnah be infidelity in general and blasphemy in particular.

They were immediately shown may portions of the works of Ravafid: where there are such passages.
After seeing then the irrefutable evidences, their response was as follow:=

This means that both sects are equal in blasphemy and Infidelity. So why you accuse of them and not
both of them?

One of the student replied that Go and ask this question to the Engineer Ali: Mirza: and then ask us.

This is just to report the conspiracy engineered by the Engineer does appear to work , and it is
engineered geniusly by an evil genius mind of the Engineer.

Before going in further details it is necessary to answer the fallacious argument of Zubair Ali: Zai stated
above:=

If a person is proved to be a Non Muslim or a Murtadd by denying any thing which causes Kufr or accepting any thing which
causes Kufr then his other statements which have both types of Meanings Kufr and Not Kufr are not interpreted since this
benefit is only for Muslims. An ambiguous sentence of a Muslim is interpreted but a similar ambiguous statement of a Kafir
is not interpreted even if it is possible to be interpreted in the similar way. So this rule must be followed. This is the rule of
Fiqh and not of Logic. Fiqh does not say that it is impossible to interpret an ambiguous sentence of a Non Muslim , but it saith

That one cannot be declare as Kafir on the basis of ambiguous sentences.

How ever there are some cases when scholars differ about the nature of some sentences of an author. Some claim that they
are unambiguous while some claim that the are ambiguous. In such situation it depends upon a person who researches in
the find. Research may differ from researcher to researcher, and a person who is involved in the debate either must
research himself/herself or compare different researched in this regard and make an opinion on the basis of comparison.
But no research can be claimed as ultimate and final. Some time antithesis are presented to very strong thesis and this
weakens the thesis. For example Ibn Arabi is explained differently by different scholars. Some claim that his sentences are

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Unambiguously Kufr, some say they are Unambiguously Not Kufr and some claim that they are Ambiguous, neither
Unambiguously Kufr nor Unambiguously Not Kufr.

In such cases even if the original person is a Kafir, the one who does not take the meaning of the Kufr from the text of the
sentence , and declares him as Muslim is still a Muslim.

Similarly if the original person is a Muslim, the one who does take the meaning of the Kufr from the text of the sentence ,
yet declares him as Muslim is a Ka:fir.

For example if a person who denies the Ijma: on the Thirty Divisions/Parts of Holy Quran or believes in any other number
of Divisions /Parts say Twenty Nine or Thirty One or else , is a Munkir of Ijma: and is not a Muslim, So if he says any
ambiguous sentence which have some meanings of Kufr and some of Isla:m, is not given the benifint of doubt and not
interpretation is acceptable even if it is Possible. But if there is another person who says a similar sentence but there is no
Kufr on his part ,then his ambiguous sentences are interpreted.

This is the reason that some times some followers of some Apostate persons argue in the similar way as the argument
reported to us from Late Zubair Ali: Zai. But they neglect the basis point. That is when a person is declared as Ka:fir on
some Unambiguous and Explicit Sentence , his ambiguous sentences are not interpreted even if they can be interpreted

How ever the point that MUST BE noted is that the Takfi:r of such a person under the present discussion is based on the basis
of Explicit or Unambiguous Sentences or both, and not on the ambiguous or inexplicit or both types of sentences.

This is the reason that if some followers of the apostate person (who so ever he may be) begin to interpret him, their
interpretation cannot save him from Kufr.

Some scholars do impose a condition that the number of such ambiguous sentences must not be large but small in compare
to his books and works. But others do not impose any condition and the apply the rules and principles to any number f
sentences

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However in some cases such followers may make a fallacious argument that it is injustice (It is Unjust) to make
interpretations for some and not to make interpretations for some. But they do miss the point that is just stated and
sentenced above.

Zubair Ali: Zai was a simple minded person he could work on the Asna:d of Traditions yet he was not expert on the other
fields , so he became strict on the issues where strictness was not allowed. However he was a thousand times better then
Engineer Ali: Mirza:. When even he realized that his view is unique among Ahlul H:adi:th: he used to become silent and tried
to skip the issue. Several times he kept silent in front of many great Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars who declared him incorrect. He
respected some of the elder Scholars of his time.

He used to defend Saiyiduna: Mua:viah RD: and was annoyed by Ish:a:q Jhal Vala called him as Jahu:l (Authentic oral report)
since Ish:a:q Jha:l Vala was a Heretic even in his eyes.

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But the enmity of H:anfiah lead Zubair Ali: Zai to borrow any thing from any one against great H:anafi: scholars even from
Ah:mad Rad:a of Bans Baraili.

I myself wrote that that allegations of Ah:mad Rad:a Of Bans Baraili on Ahlussunnah Deoband are never seconded by Great
Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars of highest eminent not in pre partition period but even after the partition of Indian Subcontinent .

He did not replied once again since it is a very powerful argument. His argument was usually as follow as reported by others
who argued from the Fata:va: of mainstream of Ahlul H:adi:th: on different issues.

I am not a Muqallid of Alul H:di:th of 13 th and 14 th centuries {Hijrah}. Such argument were used against Zubair Ali Zai,
that We are Not your Muqallid and he used to be answerless initially then he devised an answer. He said Do not follow me
but follow the truth. He was responded that truth is not with you as you think. This answer used to make him furious and he
used to stand up.

But the same response may be given to Engineer Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum.

TEXTS PRESENTED BY ENGINEER

ALI: MIRZA: AS ALLEGED PROOF
TEXTS OF HIS CLAIMS.
A number of of texts presented by Ali: Mirza , to support his claim that they are Blasphemous and Abusing
in regard to Prophets and even to Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri:] Himself are Not Blasphemous at all. Only
that the Engineer has attempted to explain them in a Blasphemous may.

So if then it is not only not necessary to deny the claims of blasphemies and infidelities ascribed to great
Sunni scholars but it is necessary to refute and answer the false claims of Blasphemies and Infidelites
ascribed to these noble characters.

The best way is to discuss in detail each and every presented proof text one by one.

PROBLEM OF AHMAD RAD:A OF BANS BARAILI.

Maulavi Rad:a: Of Bans Baraili was the first person in subcontinent who misinterpreted texts of
contemporary scholars , some elder scholars of his time and some great scholars before his time and
declared them as Ka:fir and Mutadd [Naudh:u Billah]. After him his successors also attemted to defend
those false allegations. Which were made by Ahmad Ra:da of Bans Baraili. It is well proved that all the
alleged Blasphemies and so called infidelities were attempted to be generated from the well known disputed
issues. For example the allegation of Blasphemy on Maula:na Ashraf Ali: Tha:nvi RD: is attempted to be
generated from the dispute that whether Ilm Al Ghaib is Incommunicable Attribite or a Communicable
Attribute of Divine Essence, Similarly the objection on Maula:na Kh:ali:l Ahmad M-ha:jir Mad-ni: is based on
the dispute of Kul Ilm Ma: Ca:na Va Yaku:na.

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The false allegation of denying the finality of Holy Prophet on Maula:na Qa:sim Nanautavi: RD: is based on
the dispute of existence of Prophets on other Earths [Inhabitable planets/planets suitable for intelligent life
form].

The false allegation of occurrence of falsehood/falsity in the Divine Assertive/Affirmative or Negative

Sentences is based on the dispute of Divine Omnipotence upon Falsehood/Falsity in Divine Sentences
stated above.

Following his footsteps Captain Retired Uth:ma:ni tried to declare a number if great Sunni Scholars and
S:ufies. Then some tried to shoot Ahmad Rad:a of Bans Baraili by his own bow and arrows. They find
similar texts in his works/books and declared him and a number of his followers as Ka:fir on similar
grounds, which he once used for others.

Zubair Ali: Zai: tried to declared all the great Ah:na:f guilty of Blasphemies , and was great opponent of
Vah:datul Vuju:d.

But he realized that Ahlussunnah Deoband are the true representative of Ah:na:f and Barailis are not , so he
tergetted the former mentioned in the sentence using the allegation of Bans Barailites founder.

Engineer Ali: Mirza did generalize his act and included a number of Baraili scholars in his deadly attempt to
declare that his is the the ultimate and only the correct person. What he wants to say that he is the only
person who is free from blasphemy and there is no scholar of Ahlussunnah who is free from blasphemous
activities. Engineer Ali: Mirza purports to be free from sects but what is the freedom , the declaration that all
the great scholars are Infidels and Blaspheme. This is the Isla:m of the Engineer but actually an other
religion in the Noun Of Isla:m.Even we do dispute from Ah:mad Rad:a Of Bans Baraili and declare him as
heretic on several issues yet we do not declare him heretic just due to some ambiguous texts of sentences
(whether similar to that of Ahlussunnah upon whom Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili made objections) or
not, but on the explicit texts of sentences of his believes.This shews that the principles must be followed
even for the arch- nemesis.

But on the contrary the this person Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a Principle-less person. He neither respect any
rule nor obeys any regulation. His ideas are unsystematic and usually unsound.

Ali Mirza:s alleged sectless Isla:m

Engineer Ali: Mirza is a great deceiver. He calls to become Muslim and claims that he does not declare any
Muslim sect as Ka:fir, but the cost of his conspiracious declaration is that an Ahlussunnah Deoband must
declare all his elders as Ka:fir, an Ahlul H:adi:th: must declare all his elders as either Ka:fir or Fa:siq, a
Barailvi must declare all his elders as Ka:fir. This is the cost. But there is no cost for Rava:fid:. A Ra:fid:i:
has no cost to pay. He does not have to declare his elders as Ka:fir or Fa:siq.

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This is the religion that Engineer Ali: Mirza: is presenting in the name of Isla:m. ( )

There can be several debates and discussion on each allegation of Engineer Allegation of Engineer Ali:
Mirza: of Jhelum.

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Those who follow him must know that it is not an easy task to declare any one as Ka:fir just on the basis of
some literal meaning of an interpretable text .Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili did not know that what he had
invented would one day be used not only against him but even for S:ah:a:bah RD: as well.

Even Zubair Ali Zai was unable to conceive the conspiracy behind all this. The cost of Ali: Mirzas sect-
less Isla:m is to declare a large number of Sunni scholars as Committers of Kufr.

Ali: Mirza: follows the way of Masu:d Ahmad of Jama:atul Muslimi:n , since he himself is a Sect/Firqah
yet he purports to be a sect less Isla:m as if he is the ultimate authority of Isla:m .

Ali: Mirza: follows the way of Ah:mad of Ba:ns Baraili , since he himself is a founder o Sect/Firqah yet he
purports to be a sect less Sunnism as if he is the ultimate authority of Sunnism .

Example 1:
[It may be noted that the word Al Gh:aib in the term /phrase Ilm Al Gh:aib is taken in the literal meaning
and not in the terminological meaning by some claimants of Ilm Al Gh:aib for Ghairullah. Maulana: Ashraf
Ali: Thanvi made not only a beautiful but also a wonderful irrefutable argument of the stated above word in
the literal meaning in the stated above phrase/term]

Ilm Al Ghaib is an Incommunicable Divine Attribute. That is that it is the Divine Attribute and it is
Impossible for Ghairullah Essentially [Adh:a:ti] and Non Essentially [Ghairudh:a:ti] alike.

So to believe that a Ghairullah is ascribed with the Non Essential Type of an incommunicable Divine
Attribute is Shirc/Shirk.

What Maula:na: Ashraf Ali: of Thanah Bhavan did argue may be resentenced as follow.

If the Knowledge of a Ghairullah comprehendeth each and every individual [ALL/JAMI: individuals ] of
infinite Individuals of Al Gh:aib, then it is Absolute Impossible. So no Ghairullah can be termed as A:lim Al
Gh:aib and no Gh:airullah can be ascribed by the Incommunicable Attribute of Ilm Al Gh:aib/ Ilmulgh:aib.
So in this is an Absolute Impossible [Absolutely Impossible] case.

If the Knowledge of a Ghairullah Comprehendeth some of the Individuals and finite number of Individuals of
Algh:aib then there is specification for Prophets in general and Holy Prophet in Particular since since in
this Case this type of Al Gh:aib is known to even lower animals and animals other than humans.

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But this type of Sentence was declared as blasphemuous by Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili because he
knew the power of this irrefutable argument.

Sticking on the urdu word Aisa which have a variety of meanings , Ah:mad Rad:a: first took this word in
the meaning of Equality then he shifted to the meaning of sameness.

But he did not accepted any other meaning. The weakness of allegation of Ah:mad Rad:a: Bans Barailvi
can be seen when in his desperate attempt he tried to shift this argument on Divine Omnipotence. The same
can be seen in the lectures of Engineer Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum since he agreed with Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans
Baraili that Ilm Al Gh:aib is a Communicable Attribute and not an Incommunicable Attribute. But what was
the problem of Zubair Ali: Zai. The simple minded Zubair Ali: Zai wanted to declare each and every Great
H:anafi Scholar as Ka:fir/Ca:fir. In his zeal he borrowed from Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili with out
knowing the consequences of his conspiracy .

This does shew that both the teacher and the telephonic student were actually working on two different
agendas . The simple minded Zubair Ali: Zai overlooked the consequences and the cunning minded
Engineer did know some of the consequences.

But his cunningness is more than his knowledge and rationality [intelligence] alike .

That is why this amazing apostate did not tried to understand the meaning of the text properly.

Example 2
Most popular argument of Engineer Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum is on Ali: H-jvari: RH:

According to the apostate Engineer Ali H-jvairi RH: BLASPHAMED against Holy Prophet when he wrote
Holy Prophet Unintentionally and accidently saw some thing that he should not see.

How ever this claim though is incorrect yet it is based on a fabricated report. Ali: H-jvairi RH:: did quote a
fabricated report yet he did not invent it. As he was not a scholar of reports he cannot be declared as K:afir
just because he trusted on an untrustable and fabirated report. He was not a scholar of testing the reports,
so it was natural to make a mistake what so ever.

This is not a new discussion and much debate have been done on this issue of Cashful Mah:ju:b.

When Ali: H-jvairi was defended by An Ahlussunnah Deoband , Maulavi Ish:a:q of Fais:al Abad used this

argument to defend Rava:fid: scholars against S:ah:abah RD:. ( ) 3

Maulvi Ish:a:q the Ra:fid:i: argued that in Scholars of Rava:fid: may also be given the same benefit which
was given to Ali: H-jvairi since there are reports which ascribe evil acts and deeds to S:ah:a:bah.

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He was responded as follows:=

1] Although the tradition is a fabrication yet it neither ascribes any Sin nor any transgression to Holy Prophet
since the act which this fabricated tradition ascribes is an involuntary and unintentional act. So it is neither
an Error nor a Sin. So such an act is not against the innocence and infallibility of Prophets. If neither a Sin
nor a Transgression then then it is not a disgrace of a Prophet but an ascription of an act based on a
fabricated tradition.

In case of S:ah:abah the acts ascribed to their personalities are intentional and voluntary so they constitute
Sins and Transgressions.

The difference between intentional and unintentional acts is essential and substantive. To neglect the
difference is a fallacy.

2] An error committed by a Sunni scholar is different from the believes of heretic scholars.

3] To argue from a fabricated tradition is cannot be Kufr unless and otherwise it contradicts the basic
principles and Axioms of Isla:m and Ahlussunnah. Yet the argument is Certainly Wrong and Certitudely
Incorrect.

4] Although it is correct that such an act is impossible for Holy Prophet since infallibility implies the Relative
Impossibility of this act but it is the case that Ali: H-jvairi committed a mistake for limiting the infallibility to
intentional and voluntary acts. Such an error is not Kufr nor disgrace even from Barailvi standard.Since an
unintentional act cannot be Tark of -u:la:

5] Rava:fid: try to make objections on S:h:abah yet Ali: H-jvairi did not made any objection on Prophet.

6]Some what similar act is ascribed to Saiyiduna: Davu:d in some weak traditions , but they are not
considered as disgrace for him. So the same is true in this conditions.

Although Ish:aq Jha:l Vala was unable to was unabe to respond them but he did make some fun of the
answers.

He was asked to become serious and to discuss in proper way but he was unable todo as he was asked to
do.

He only said such an act is Impossible for Holy Prophet.

He was responded to determine and definitize the error of Ali H-jvairi. He responded that the basic flaw is
that to look at some parts of a Woman unintentionally is also some thing that is against the infallibility . He
was responded that it is correct but the point of discussion is not whether this is against the infallibility or
not , but it is that if some one do not consider it against the infallibility then whether it is Kufr or not.

It is not the matter of S:h:abah and Prophet but it is the matter of intentional act and unintentional act.

This made him to repeat some arguments which he had made earlier and did not say any thing new.

So every thing became clear.

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7] One more argument that could be presented to Ish:a:q Jha:l but was not presented is as follow:=

It is one of the most authentic and authorative tradition that a Stone/Rock stole the clothes of Holy Prophet
Mu:sa: Peace Be Upon Him , AND He was seen with out clothes by a group of people. If some parts of
Prophet can be looked at with out disgrace since they are unintentional and this is not against infallibility ,
how can it be some thing against infallibility if Some Parts of Woman is seen unintentionally by a Prophet.

Engineer Ali: Mirza: must have known that similar arguments are made by Munkirs of Ah:adi:th: against the
tradition in regard to Saiyiduna: Mu:sa: AS.

Is he going to make similar claims against the Mu:sa: - Stone Event as he has made against Kahf Al
Mah:ju:b and its author.

Some day it may not be today this Engineer Ali: Mirza: is likely to become a denouncer of Ah:adi:th:, since
his path which has chosen leads to this heresy, heresy of denouncing traditions.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI

MIRZA: AND ISH:A:Q JHA:L VALA.
While Ali: Mirza: wanted to declare Ali: H-jvairi as Kafir and Mutadd , Ish:a:q Fais:al Aba:di wanted to
defend Rava:fid: Rava:fid: He did not declared Ali: H-jvairi as Kafir or Murtadd or both.

Each one of the two heretics have their own reasons to use an Error of a Great S:u:fi Scholar.

It may amuse the lovers of Ali: H-jvairi of Lahore the author of Cashf Al Mah:ju:b that Ali: Mirza:
incorrectly considered an Error as Blasphemy.

An argument in support of the claim that

Ali: H-jvairi did not commit a Kufr
If to look at a clotheless woman accidently and unintentionally is a disgrace as just an act of chance is
something that is against the infallibility of Prophets and a disgrace then Ali: Mirza: is asked to provide
some Ah:a:dith: which explicitly say that:=

1] Such an act was Impossible for Holy Prophets during their respective lifetimes .

2] One who hold this view is a disgracer of Holy Prophets.

It I known that Ali: Mirza is likely to say Astagh:farullah without providing any Kh:bar or A th:ar what so
ever.

3] Great S:ufi: did not committed any sort of Kufr , since the Tradition of Saiyiduna: Mu:sa: and the stone
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disgrace to the narrators and reporters of stone-clothes tradition? Is he going to declare this tradition as
Blasphemous and Infidelous?

Although the Stone Clothe tradition cannot prove the tradition of Cashf Al Mah:ju:b but it does prove that
the latter is neither Kufr nor Blasphemous.

4] Some commentators have also accepted traditions ascribing a similar act of seeing a Woman in similar
conditions to Saiyiduna: Davu:d [AS]. This tradition is incorrect and wrong, yet it is not a Blasphemous
tradition. It is reported that Engineer Ali: Mirza: declares all such Commentators of Holy Qura:n who have
accepted these traditions as Infidels or Blasphemers or both. But many of the followers of Engineer if they
have not gone beyond the boundaries of reason shall not accept this claim if he did make any.

We have given some examples , that how Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum works.

Now we come to the scheme of Heretic Ali: Mirza: of Jhelun City.

THE SCHEME OF ALI: MIRZA: AGAINST

AL H:ADI:TH: AS:S:AH:I:YAH
What Ali: Mirza: is trying to induce in the mind of his listeners is as follow:

1] First of All he wants to make some Rational objections against a fabricated tradition.

2] Second Of All he wants to convince that these arguments are correct and the fabricated tradition is a
disgrace.

3] A person is motivated to believe that if to ascribe the act of seeing a woman with out clothes to a Prophet
who so ever He may be is an act of Blasphemy then to ascribe a number of Persons to see a Prophet with
out clothes is a greater Blasphemy .The sanctity of a Prophet is far more then a Woman who cannot be a
Prophet. But such a motivation can only be ceased if all the common objections and similar objections on
the both texts are rejected and every thing is just based on the category of the traditions and respective
chains of reporters and narrators. Not in the way Ali: Mirza: used this Multi fallacy.

4] Now he is likely to motivate his listeners to apply these arguments and objections to the Correct Tradition.
The Clothe Stone tradition which is undoubtly correct.

5] Engineer Ali: Mirza: is making ground to convince a number of his followers to declare all those
Commentators Of Holy Qura:n who accepted the Tradition which ascribed a Similar act to Saiyiduna:
Da:vu:d [AS] as Ka:fir or Blasphemer or both as he had tried for the Author of Cashful Mah:ju:b.

So far so intelligent.

The consequences are that his audiences some day shall apply the same objections and arguments against
the authentic traditions and thus declare the authentic H:adi:th: as Kufr and Blasphemuous , and also
declare some great Commentators of Qura:n as Blasphemers or Infidels or both..

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It is very natural that if some objection is made on the meaning of Text of a Concocted Tradition, and the
text is declared as Infidelity or Blasphemy, and there is an other Tradition with some what similar meaning
yet it is S:ah:i:h: and genuine then a person inclines toward considering the S:ah:i:h: tradition as Infidelity or
Blasphemy. Such a person bases his views not on the standard of the tradition of H:adi:th: but only and only
upon the meaning of the Text of Tradition and Contents of the Text stated above.

Similarly it is very natural if some objection is made on a book of Tas:auvuf , and there are some
Commentaries of Qura:n have similar traditions, then a normal reader shall apply the objection on these
Great Commentaries of Sunnism. In particular if a tradition is Kufr and Blasphemous in a Book of Tas:auvuf
, then similar traditions mjust also be Kufr or Blasphemous even if they are in the Books of Commentaries of
Holy Qura:n.

A very cleaver way indeed to make some one astray from Al Ah:di:th: As:s:ah:iyah . A very intelligent
technique to make one against the books of Commentaries of Holy Qura:n.

Gh:ula:m Ah:mad Pervez the last well known denouncer of Ah:adi:th: did use this trick in the very initial
stage of his life to make doubt in the Authentic Traditions. It is not known whether he invented this
mischievous trick or he borrowed from some one else but it is well known that he developed it. It is said that
H:abi:b Ar Rah:ma:n Candhelvi also used this trick in some modified form. While making objections on
weak traditions he used to make objections on some traditions of Holy Bukh:a:ri and Holy Muslim. Maula:na:
Irsha:dul Haqq Ath:ari: studied this trick and refuted it in one of his marvelous books. Maula:na: Sarfara:z
Kh:a:n S:afdar RH: also detected this trick and in his lectures refuted it . Maula:na Abdul Gh:ani: Jajarvi
also delected this trick independent of others and delivered several lectures to his students in his Madrasah

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[School of Religious Studies].( )

THE TRUE WAY TO RESPOND:

We reject the tradition of Casf on the basis that it is fabricated and not because it is a disgrace in regard to
Holy Prophet since a tradition similar in acts and events mentioned in its text and dissimilar in the category
of classification is found. As the objections and arguments if valid one the Text of the Unauthentic
Traditions implieth their validity on the text of the Authorative and Authentic tradition. This is the scheme of
the Engineer engineered with great conspiracy.

If Ali: H-jvairi RH: would not have committed this mistake , we would not have studied the case in detail and
would not have figured out the conspiracy of the man called Engineer Ali: Mirza: .

Indeed a great Conspiracy.

SAME AND SIMILAR TEXTS OF TWO

DIFFERENT TYPES OF AH:A:DI:TH: IN
REGART TO DIFFERENCE IN CATAGORIES.
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There is a difference between Same and Similar.

If there is a tradition with a text and authentic chain of narrators and a similar text with a weak chain of reporters
or a similar text of a fabricated Tradition, then the weak and the fabricated must be rejected on the basis of the of
Weakness or Fabrication but not on the basis of some self styled reasons. Since if some alleged reasons are the
basis of rejection of a Weak or Fabricated Tradition and these reasons are also applied on a reliable Tradition then
it is implied that this tradition must also be rejected on the same or common or similar grounds. But it is not the
case. This is the reason that Self Made Reasons of the Engineer are invalid.

When ever the Engineer feels that his arguments are weak he use to say Astagh:farullah to generate strength in
his weak arguments, but such tricks cannot and donot make strength in weak arguments.

EXAMPLE 3
Shaik: Abdul Qa:dir Jila:ni was accused for Blasphamy against S:ah:abah and
Prophets on his saying My foot is upon ths shoulders of Saints [Aulia:
Sing:Vali:=Saint].

It was said that as his words in the sentence are general and as Each Prophet is a
Vali: and each S:ah:abi: is a Vali, so the generality of his sentence is a Blasphemy
against Prophets and S:ah:a:bah [Companions].

But the answer to this objection is that the words in the sentence are not so general
and they are particular to some of the Saints of his series [Silsilah] not all of the
Saints. It is necessary to Particularize the words of the sentence . So it is evident
that to reject the literal meaning or literal generalization is necessary on several
reasons. Even the Great Fuqha: Like Ima:m Sha:fai:, Great Muh:addath:i:n like Ima:m
Bukh:a:ri, great Theologians like Ima:m Ashari: ,Great Mufassiri:n like Baid:a:vi etc.
are excluded from the sentence quoted above. However some extremist followers
claim the generality of the sentence with certainty and that is Kufr/Infidelity.

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EXAMPLE 4
Some Heretic claim that What so ever that is Known to Devil(s)/ Satan(s) is also Known by
(Known to) Prophet(s), Since the knowledge of Prophet(s) are far more then the knowledge
of all other Creations. But this belief is based on the bases of misconceptions and fallacies.

First it is based on the misconcept of More-ness, Greatness , and Less-ness and small-ness.

Maulana: Kh:-li:l Ah:mad M-ha:jir Madani: RH: pointed at this reality that the Knowledges
of Prophets in General and Knowledge of Holy Prophet in particular are/is more and are/is
Greater than all the other Created Supposita /Essences both in Quality and Quantity. Yet it is
incorrect to say that What So Ever that is Known to Devil(s)/Satan(s) is (are) also Known to
Holy Prophet(s). But he was falsely accused to believe that Knowledge(s) of
Devil(s)/Satan(s) is (are) more/greater than the Knowledge(s) of Holy Prophet(s). This is not
the belief of this great Sunni H:anafi: Scholar Maula:na Kh:ali:l Ah:mad M-ha:jir Madani.

The question is why he was accused as such by Maulavi Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Barali.

The answer is Absolutely Simple.

Maulavi: Ah:mad Rad:a of Bans Baraili believed in Cul Ilm Ma: Ca:na Va Yacu:na for
Holy Prophet. According to the Dogma of Cul Ilm Ma: Ca:na Va Yacu:na Ila: Yaumil
Qiya:mah to believe that a single thing known to any one of the Created Rational Supposita
that is not a Prophet and not Known to Holy Prophet(s) means that the Knowledge of the
said Supposita is greater/more than that the Knowledge of Holy Prophet(s).

The fallacy in this type of argument is due to the incorrect meanings of TERMS like Less
than, More than, greater than, smaller than etc.

If a Suppositum /Essence B knoweth some thing not Known to/by Suppositaum A in a

particular field say F0 , A knoweth many things in other fields of knowledge not known to/by
Suppositum /Essence B , Knowledge of A is greater/more than Knowledge of B both in
Quality and Quantity in other fields say Fi ,n>i>0 , i 0 then it cannot be said that
Knowledge of B is more/greater than than of A just because of some things known to B and
not Known to A in field Fi, n>i>0 ,i 0 ,where n is any finite and definite natural number say n=n0
>0,n 0 .

Explaination
If Devil(s)/Satan(s) have (a) number of Knowledge(s) of Evils and the Prophets Know a
number of Good Knowledges [Knowledges Of Good ] YET the these Knowledges of Evils

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are not Attributed to Prophets, it is certainly not implied that the Knowledge of
Devils/Satans are more/ greater than the Knowledges of Prophets.

Note: In general the Plural of Knowledge is not used but due the the requirement of of the
argumentation plural is made as Knowledges, it is not due to any ignorance but due to
necessity of argumentation. The word Prophets includes all the prophets from the First
Prophet to Last Prophet. Due to Earthy Death of a Prophet Annihilation of the Essence of
Prophet and the Prophethood of the Prophet are NOT IMPLIED.

Mathematical Representation

Let x D, Y P,

D,P are both finite Sets.

Where D= {x| x is an Evil Knowledge or Knowledge of an Evil},

P= {y| y is a Good Knowledge or Knowledge of a Good},

Let

|D| < |P|, and D P ,

THEN it is Certainly Not Implied that

|D| |P|

This is an irrefutable refutation of the allegation and irrefutable

reason.

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The knowledge of Holy Prophets are Greater than the Knowledges

of Intelligent Supposita that are not Prophets in this meaning and
not in the meaning implied by Cul Ilm Ma: Ca:na Va Yacu:na.

Also Divine Knowledge is not a Set of RFC but a Class of MKS or Grothendiek Universe or even
beyond that.

WHY ZUBAIR ALI: ZAI ATTACKED GREAT SCHOLARS OF AHLUSSUNNAH

DEOBAND BORROWING THE ALLEGATIONS AND ARGUMENTS FROM
AH:MAD RAD:A OF BANS BARAILI

It is very clear that Zubair Ali: Zai did not believed that H:anafite Scholars are Muslims. So he was always ready to
borrow any thing from any one who so ever he may be , to allege that these scholars are Ka:fir [Nau:dh:bllah]. But
some great scholars of Ahlul H:adi:th: asked him to change his views on the matter of Tacfi:r. So Zubair Ali: Zai
invented a new method . He used to ascribe Cufr/Kufr to them and remained silent on Tacfi:r. But this trick was
exposed and his inner enmity of H:anafite scholars was an open secret.

NOTE: Zubair Ali: Zai was a Semi Ahlul H:adi:th:, not a Total Ahlul H:adi:th: , and he had many unique views which
were not accepted by Great Ahlul H:adi:th: Scholars. That is the reason his views about great Ahlussunnah Scholars
cannot be generalized to all Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars.

WHY ENGINEER ALI: OF JHELUM ATTACKED GREAT SCHOLARS OF

AHLUSSUNNAH DEOBAND BORROWING THE ALLEGATIONS AND
ARGUMENTS FROM AH:MAD RAD:A OF BANS BARAILI

Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a Rafid:ite and proofs for the claim that he is a Rafid:ite are embedded in his different lectures,
which can be searched if these lectures are researched. So there is a different reason. Engineer Ali: Mirza: accuse
many great Ahlussunnah scholars of Blasphemy , Infidelity and Na:s:ibiah and this exposes his Ra:fid:iah. He even
ascribe Kufr/Cufr [Infidelity] to Ima:m Ibn Taimiah RH: , so there is no hope for any

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Sunnism from this heretic Engineer.

NOTE: Although Zubair Ali Zai was a Semi Ahlul H:adith: ,He was not a Rafid:i: at all. But Engineer Ali: Mirza: is
neither a Total Ahlul H:adi:th: not a Partial Ahlul H:adi:th: . The Engineer of Jhelum is a Total Rafid:ite , although not a
Twelver but still not a Sunnite.

TWO OTHER SCHEMES OF THE ENGINEER

When studying the lectures of the Apostate Engineer Critically and Analytically it is found that the Engineer
prefers to accuse of Infidelity and Blasphemy, those scholars of Ahlussunnah of Ahlussunnah who
defended S:ah:abah RD: or Ahlussunnah from Rafid:i:tes and similar sects.That is a type of character
assassination. What this person wants to induce in the mind of his audiences that their defend and apology
of S:ah:a:bah and Ahlussunnah is not acceptable since they were themselves Infidels and Blasphemers .

Once again Engineer Ali Mirza: of Jhelum city has taken an indirect approach to convince that attackers on
S:ah:abah RD: are free and safe from such Infidelities and Blasphemies , but the defenders and apologists
commit them. An illegitimate baby scheme conceived by the pragmatic evil mind. The Engineer did think that
this scheme could never be detected. But by the grace of Almighty Existent it is not only detected but
exposed.

An other scheme is to accuse all those scholars of Ahlussunnah Val Jama:ah of Infidelities [Kufr/Kurfiya:t]

And Blasphemies [Sha-t-m/Sh-t-mia:t] who defended the Tauh:i:d and refuted Shirk
[Schick/Schirk/Schric/Shirc].

Initially Engineer Ali: Mirza: refuted some believes of Maulavi f Rad:a: of Ba:ns Baraili as Shirc/Shirk.

But latter he began to attack all those who repelled the believes of Maulavi Rada: of Bans Baraili from being
injected in Sunnism. He was finally exposed when he declared that Ilm Al Gh:aib is not an Incommunicable
Divine Attribute. [An Incommunicable Divine Attribute is one that is necessary for the Divine Essence and is
Absolute Impossible on Non Divine Essences and Non Divine Supposita , not only Essentially [Dh:a:ti] but
also Non Essentially [Ghair Adh:a:ti:] . Then Engineer Ali: Mirza: began to preach in his Question Answer
cessions and telephonic preachings that one who is involved in Shirk/ Shirc yet recites Kalimah ,he is still a
Muslim. His faith [I:ma:n] does not cease by his Shirc/Shirk. On other hand he began to declare all those
Great Scholars as Blasphemers ,who refuted and answered the Shirks [Ashra:k :pl of Shirk]. How ever
Engineer Ali: Mirza: is no friend of Ah:mad Rad:a: of Bans Baraili apparently , yet he does not condemn
him on his believes of Omnipresence [H:-D:U:R VA N-Z:U:R] OF Prophets, but he accuse other scholars of
Sunnism like M-h:addith: Dahl-vi:] RH accusing himof this Heretical belief. [ But is accusation is based on
misunderstandings generated by Simple Minded Zubair Ali: Zai, who was fascinated by Barailvi attempt s
to ascribe this believe to the scholar stated above . That is he seconds Maulavi Rada: of Ba:ns Baraili on
some issues but for his own reasons does not high light them .He wants to Shift the Certainty of Tauh:i:d to
Probability. But the shifting of Tauh:i:d from Certainty to Probability is not Imporobable but impossible. So
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microscopely and deeply. If he is not an Evil Genius then he must necessarily be inspired and groomed by
an Evil Genius Mind, if not then he is himself that sort of Genius.

A GREAT APOSTATE MIND OF THE PRESENT CENTURY

Some time Engineer Ali: Mirza: amazes us , when his conspiracies are exposed . What a hidden conspiracy
he makes. He is the most conspiracious mind in the world of heresy.

No conspiracy is too holy to be detected, to fallacy is to stubborn to be unsolved, no apostate is to smart to

misguide perpetually. Some day every masked heretic is unmasked. The same is true of the Engineer .Every
evil in the clothes of Goodness is some day unclothed. When one critically analyzes the lectures of Engineer
Ali: Mirza: one is likely to discover hidden conspiracies . As there is a proverb that give the devil his due,
one may admit that his plots are the best plots. One by one he attempt to declare great Sunni Scholars as
Blasphemers. And never to say any thing against Ra:fid:ite scholars. A dangerous fallacy which can
misguide his audiences unless and otherwise one is a researcher and has sufficient knowledge to study his
lectures critically and analytically.

A GREAT TAKFI:RI: IN DISGUISE OF A NON TAKFI:RI:

Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a great Takfi:ri: in the disguise of a Non Takfi:ri: . He declares many great Scholars
of Ahlussunnah as Ka:fir or Commiter of Kufr [Fa:il Al Kufr] some time explicitly some time implicitly,
some time directly ,some time indirectly, some time impliedly some time intrinsically . But with all these he
claims that he is not a Takfi:ri:. His game of Taqaiyah is exposed when his lectures and sermons are
studied. Perhaps this is the reason he do not write books. Although he do not declare a normal layman who
is an Ahlussunnah yet he declares on different ways as stated above the scholars of Ahlussunnah as
Ka:fir or Committer of Kufr etc. So he becomes a Takfi:ri: like the founder of alleged Jama:atul Muslimi:n.

Even he accuse some S:ah:abah RD: to prove that he is a great Takfi:ri Ra:fid:i:. His statements about
Saiyiduna: H:a:t:ib Ibn Abi Baltaah RD: are noted specially.He is making a Takfi:r of this great S:ah:abi:
implicitly.

It must be noted that he sometime accuses S:ah:a:bah RD:. some time

accuses Great Scholars Of Ahlussunnah, but he never accuses the
Scholars of Rava:fid: . This is an other irrefutable proof that Engineer
Ali: Mirza: is a Ra:fid:i: .

CONSPIRACY AGAINST SHA:H VALI:YULL-H

RH:

Although he admairs Sha:h Valiyull-h RH: yet the cost of his admiration is infinitely
hight and is unpayable. He claims that all the works of Sha:h Valiyull-h Dahlavi RD:
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written prior to the book Hujjatullah Al Ba:ligh:ah are cancelled and abrogated by the
author Sha:h Valiyullah RH:. This type of argument is not invented by the Engineer
and thus lakes originality. He has borrowed it from Mirza: Mah:mu:d of Qa:diya:n the
son of Mirza: Gh:ula:m Ahmad Qa:diya:ni [ the imposter].

In some debated between to Mirzai sects the Qa:diyanites and Lahorites when
Lahorites [Maulavi Muh:ammad Ali: Lahori, a Lohorian who is the leader of Lahorites]
argued from some texts of book of Mirza: Qa:diya:ni: against Mirza: Mah:mu:d , Mirza:
Mah:mu:d replied that all these texts are Cancelled. This answer was borrowed by
Engineer Ali: Mirza: and was attempted to be used for Sha:h Vali:yullah RH:.

What Engineer Ali: Mirza: probably thought that if this answer is correct for Mirza:
then it is also correct for Sha:h Valiyullah [Nau:dh:ubillahVa Astagh:farullah].

This Is a disrespect of Sha:h Valiyullah RH:. In implicit form Mirza: Of Jhelum accused
Even Sha:h Valiyullah RH: that even he was an Infidel and a Blasphemer before he
wrote H:ujjatullah Al Ba:ligh:ah. When I pointed this implicit allegation against Sha:h
Valiyullah one of the follower of Engineer Ali: Mirza: become so furious that he
discontinued any further discussion . [The proper response of the Engineers
argument about the alleged cancellation from the contents of text of H:ujjatullah Al
Ba:ligh:ah shall be discussed separately].

So according to the Engineer of Jhelum even Sha:h Valiyullah was a heretic or a

Blasphamer or an Infidel before the period of authoring H:ujjatullah Al Ba:ligh:ah.

So strict is the alleged standard of this person of Jhelum, but why such a person is
silent against the scholars of Rava:fid: . He is as silent as a statue or an idol or a doll.

Why ? The answer is that he himself is a Great Ra:fid:i: and he is continuously

attempting to misguide those who unfortunately listen to his lectures in the hope that
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sect-less Isla:m are imprisoned into the worst sect/cult of all, rather a religion
opposite to Isla:m in the Holy Noun [name] of Isla:m.

Engineer Ali: Mirza and Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d.

A Barailvi in general develops an intrinsic nature of hating Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d.

Even if a Barailvi becomes an Ahlul H:adi:th: be continues to hate Ash Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d
the Ima:m of Ahlussunnah in Subcontinent. As this Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a former Barailvi he
did hate the noble Shahi:d and in all of his conversions his hatred of Ash Sha:h Isma:i:l
Shahi:d continued and when he become an Ahlul H:adi:th: for a short period of time even then
his hatred of the Noble Shahi:d did continued. He was seconded by Zubair Ali: Zai who was
also very against him for two reasons.

1] For the belief of Vah:datul Vuju:d , See Abqa:t by Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d.

2] For the belief of Divine Omnipotence upon Falsehood/Falsity [Kidh:b] , See

Yakrozah/Ycrozah Shari:f.

So he also injected a serum of further hatred in the veins and arteries of Engineer Ali: Mirza: .

Now the Engineer Of Jhelum hates him and uses the objections of Fad:l Rasu:l , Bada:yu:ni
scholars, works of Ah:mad Rad:a Bans Barailvi and Maulvi Nai:muddi:n Mura:d Aba:di etc.

EPILOGUE
It must be noted that if this person Engineer Ali: Mirza: who declares a large number of Sunni Scholars as
Blasphemers is not a Takfi:ri: then whon else on earth be a Takfi:ri:.

FOOT NOTES
[1] I I my self used to defend Maula:na: Maudu:di:s ambiguous sentences. But when I studied the book
Kh:ila:fat Vo Mulu:kiat, I stopped to interpret his ambiguous sentences because he did shew his Ra:fid:ite
tendencies. After that he lost the benefit of being Ahlussunnah, and then it was use less to interpret his
sentences which were interpretable yet as he had shewn his Ra:fid:ite tendencies It was he did not deserved

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to be interpreted. How ever He was not a Ra:fi:d:ibut he gained som tendencies of Ra:fid:ism, probably to get
some votes for his political party.

2
( ) Engineer Ali: Mirza: did claim that he does not belong to any sect, but it is just a claim. The claim is
some thing separate from the proof. In this case his claim is identical to the proof or claim is a proof of itself.

So these are no proofs. Engineer Ali: Mirza satisfies all the definitions and conditions of being a sect. So he
along with all those who agree with him do constitute a new sect. Engineer to not coin a Noun for his sect.
How ever it may be named/nouned as Alimirzaism,Engineerism,Jhelumism,Jhelumiah ETC. He uses the
same trick once used by Masu:d Ah:mad BSc. Masu:d did claim that he is a pure Muslim and does not
belong to any sect. But he is thought to have Kh:arjite tendencies even by Engineer Ali: Mirza:. Actually
both of them constitute two different sects or cults one having Ra:fid:ite tendencies and the other having
Kh:a:rjite tendencies. As Ali: Mirza: declares many scholars as Ka:fir whether directly or indirectly he is a
Takfi:r:i: beyond doubt. His version of sect-less Isla:m is to ascribe Kufr [Infidelity] and Blasphemy to great
Scholars of other sects.

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[ ] Although Ish:a:q Fas:alabadi: was a Ra:fid:i: yet he did not accused S:ah:abah for the alleged crimes
and transgressions. At times he even refuted allegations against Saiyiduna: Mua:viah RD: . How ever he
was of the opinion that Rava:fid: received some traditions which ascribed evil acts to S:ah:a:bah. Based on
the information of these traditions the accuse S:h:a:bah RD: and abuse them. As the traditions do exist they
cannot be declared as Ka:fir. This was his view however inpresence of many Ahlul H:adi:th scholars he
confessed that he considered all such traditions as fabrication of enemies of Isla:m. Yet even this is a very
strong tendency towards Ra:fid:ism. That is why we consider him as a Fa:fid:i: . It must be noted that he was
not a twelever and he denied several times their books of traditions as fabrications.Engineer Ali: Mirza: is
more dangerous than him. However the cause of this Rafid:ism of man from Fais:alaba:d was initially with a
cause in mind , and that was to attract Ra:fid:ism toward Sunnism, but this crossed all its limits. Instead of
attracting Rava:fid: towards Sunnism , Ish:a:q of Fais:alaba:d was attracted towards Ra:fid:ism , although a
new type of Ra:fid:ism yet still Ra:fid:ism.

4
( ) As Engineer Ali: Mirza has sympathies with Gh:amidi it is implied that he must have some sympathies
with Gh:la:m Ah:mad Pervez as well, if not total then partial.

END OF PART
ONE
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In Part Two each

and every
alleged
blasphemy shall
be discussed
individually.
It will be tried
to defend a
sentence of our
worst opponent
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if we find that
the alleged
blasphemeous
sentence is
interpretable ,it
it is
interpretable
according to the
basic principles

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of
interpretation.
Some terms explained.

1] WHAT IS VAH:DATUL VUJU:D

It must be noted that Vah:datul Vuju:d [Unicity Of Existence] is not a single dogma as supposed by Salafites and Ahlul H:adi:th: but under the term of Vah:datul Vuju:d there
are several dogmas. Some of them are purly Kufr, some of them are not Kufr, Some of them are just philosophical thoughts and do not contradict Isla:mic Teachings and
Axioms. In such a case it is incorrect to declare any believer of Vah:datul Vuju:d as Ka:fir.

The reasons may be noted as follow:=

1] As it is not a single dogma but there are several different dogmas under the term of Vah:datul Vuju:d so it is not necessary that one who believes in
Vah:datul Vuju:d believes in those which are Kufr or Fisq.

2] Some of the dogmas of Vah:datul Vuju:d are misunderstood . So to declare a dogma as kufr when it is misunderstood by the declarer cannot be
acceptable.

So many Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars do differentiate b/t different dogmas of Vah:datul Vuju:d. So such an exercise of declaring each aand every dogma of
Vah:datul Vuju:d as Kufr , just because some of them are Kufr is just an haste induction and induction is a weak argument .

2] COMMUNICABLE AND INCOMMUNICABLE ATTRIBUTES.

If an Attribute is of two types 1] Essential , 2] Non Essential, and Essential [Adh: Dh:a:ti] is associated with the Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri:] and the
Non Essential [Gh:air adh: Dh:a:ti] type is Possible for Ghairullah Essences, and Essential types is impossible upon Ghairullah Essences [Dh:a:t ,pl:
Dh:va:t], then it is Communicbale Attribute. Example, Speech, Sight, Mercy,Love,Justice.

If an Attribute is of only ONE types Essential , and Essential [Adh: Dh:a:ti] is associated with the Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri:] and the Essential and
the Non Essential [Gh:air adh: Dh:a:ti] types both are equally Impossible for Ghairullah Essences [Dh:a:t ,pl: Dh:va:t], then it is called an Incommunicbale
Attribute [As:s:fa:tul M-kh:t-s:-h].Example Divinity, Creativity, Ilm Algh:aib .

3]ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES AND NON ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES

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Essential Attributes are those Attributes that are Issued from the Very Self Of Divine Essence due to the Intrinsic Nature of the Divine Essence and is
Self Associated with the Divine Essence. The Intrinsic Nature of Divine Essence is Absolutely Identical to the Divine Essence.[AS:S:IFA:TUDH: DH:A:TIYAH]

Non Essential Attributes [AS:S:IFA:T AL GHAIR ADH:DH:A:TIYAH] are those Attributes that are not the Essential Attributes. They are of three types.

1] Divine Active Attributes.2] Divine Relative Attributes 3] Bestowed Attributes.

Divine Active Attributes [AS:S:FA:TUL FILIYAH] are those Divine Attributes that are the relations of Takvi:n or Divine Will or Divine Omnipotence to
different Divine Acts say Mercy, Justice ,Benevolence etc. Their Mabda and Mansha are Essential Attributes.

Divine Relative Attributes [AS:S:IFA:TUL ID:A:FIYAH]] are also Relations of Divine Takvi:n or Omnipotence or Divine Will to Divine Acts yet there opposites
are also exercise by Divine Essence like Rad:a and Gh:-d:-b, Taking Life and Giving Life, Forgiving and Punishment .

Bestowed Attributes [AS:S:IFA:TUL AT:A:IYAH] are Attributes of Created Supposita and Created Essences and not of Divine Essence .Yet they are
Created.

SALAFITES , H:ANA:BALITES, AND A MINORITY OF MATURIDITES CONSIDER ALL DIVINE

ATTRIBUTES AS ESSENTIAL ,BUT MAJORITY OF AHLUSSUNNAH DISAGREE FROM THE
THREE MINORITIES OF AHLUSSUNNAH WHO ARE IN MINORITY OF AHLUSSUNNAH
COLLECTIVELY AND INDIVIDUALLY.

4] BLASPHEMY AND INFIDELITY

Infidelity is used in the meaning of Kufr/Cufr, something opposite of faith of Isla:m. blasphemy [Sh-t-m is used in the meaning of
using abusing or disgracing sentences about Holy Personalities and Holy SUPPOSITA. All blasphemies are Infidelity .YeT Infidelity is
more General the Blasphemy.

5] ALLEGED BLASPHEMY
If a sentence is Not Blasphemous at all yet some one claims falsely that the sentence is Blasphemous then this is an Alleged Blasphemy. It is not a
Blasphemy at all. Rava:fid: accuse Great S:ah:a:bah for Blasphemy, Baralivi accuse Ahlussunnah Deoband and Ahlul H:adi:th: for Blasphemy.

Engineer Ali: Mirza: accuse Scholars of Ahlussunnah Deoband, Ahlul H:di:th: and Barailvis for Blasphemy and at times accuse some S:h:a:bas as well as
it is exposed from his heretic lectures.

An Accusation of Blasphemy is not a Proof of Blasphemy , rather it require full discussion whether a sentence is Blasphemous or Not Blasphemous.

Some restrict the word Blasphemy to the disgrace of Divine Essence and Noun Of Divine Essence but we have used this word for the disgrace of Holy
Personalities including disgrace of Prophets , S:ah:abah Muh:addith:in ETC.

TO THE AUDIENCES OF ALI MIRZA

Whether the objections of this
person from Jhelum on other
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scholars are true or not it is a

separate issue but Engineer Ali:
Mirza: is Himself is an ememy of
truth and an enemy of Isla:m, an
enemy of Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul
Ba:ri:] , Essence of Prophet
[Dh:a:tun Nabi:] and Dh:ava:t As:S:-
h:abah [Essences Of S:ah:a:bah] ,
Attribute of Qura:n [S:-ft Al Qura:n
] etc.
If you are just the listeners of Ali: Mirza: then for the sake of ALL-H ,
Rasu:lullah , Qura:n, Ah:adi:th:, S:ha:bah and isla:m do not listen to this
person unless and otherwise you have sufficient Knowledge to detect his
fallacies and falsehoods. He explains Quran and Ah:adi:th: incorrectly and
he is a deceived deceiver. Like the great deceiver that shall come this
deceiver he is a deceived deceiver .

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF ALI MIRZA

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You may have listened some of his lectures and his objections on the proof texts. But it is our right to discuss them both individually and collectively.

You must not agree with Ali: Mirza: andAlimirzais unless and otherwise you have studied both sides i.e the accusation of Blasphemies and their
rebuttal, thoroughly . After an impartial study of both sides you may decide yourself whether the accusations of Blasphemies are correct or they are
false allegations of the Engineer Ali: Mirza:. .

It is hoped that you shall think again before making your final decision and last judgement about this character and the cunning entity of Jhelum city.

Engineer Ali: Mirza is a founder of a new sect, which is not named by him yet. He may not name it , and it is probable that he never attempt to name his
sect. Yet he is a founder of a new sect and if he does not name it then we have full right to name his founded sect.

We name his sect with different names.

1] Alimirzaiah and the followes are Ali Mirzais.

2] Engineeriah and the followers are called Engineerites or Engineeri.

3] Jhelamiah and the followers are called Jhelumites or Jhelumi.

4] Neo Mirzaiah and the followers are called Neo Mirzais [Adifferent from Mirzais yet equally Anti Isla:mic].

If a sect or a religion does not coin a Noun for it , it is correct to coin a Noun for it. Followers of Mirza Qadiya:ni do not call themselves as Mirzais but
they are correctly named /nouned so. Similarly if followers of Engineer Ali: Mirza: do not call them selves as Alimirzais it is correct to call them so and
to noun/ to name them so.

The part 2 of this Critique shall be presented soon

Insha:All-h

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