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Imam Abu 'Abdullah Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Abu Bakr al-Ansari al-
Qurtubi ( ( ) 1214 - 1273 AD) was a famous classical Sunni
Maliki Scholar. He was born in Cordoba, Spain and was an eminent
Maliki scholar specialized in Fiqh and Hadith. Many Muslim scholars say
that the breadth and depth of his scholarship are evident in his writings.
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al-Qur'an. He died in 1273 in Munya Abi'l-Khusavb, Egypt.
Al-Qurubi, in his commentary of Quran stated about those who say Allah
(SWT) has a body, as follows.
"The sound verdict is that they are blasphemers, (Kuffar) because there is
no difference between them and those that worship idols and pictures.
(Tafsir Al-Qurubi, 4/14).
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Ibn Taymiyyah is saying that nothing can exist, not even Allah (SWT),
unless it has a place, parts (such as different physical sides) and needs.
This is indeed an ugly belief as far as Islamic faith is concerned.
Ibn Taymiyyah says Allah (SWT) has 6 limits and one of which is adjacent
to the Arsh
Ibn Taymiyyah says: " This moderate saying, among the three sayings of
Al-Qaai Abu Yalaa, is the one that agrees with what (Imam) Amad
says and others among the Imaams. He has stated (this is a lie and
allegation on Imam Amad), Allah (SWT) is in a particular direction,
and He is not spread out in all directions. Rather, He is outside the
world, distinct from His creation, separate from it, and He is not in
every direction. This is what Amad (may Allah have mercy upon him)
meant when he said, He has a limit that only He knows. (This is a clear
cut mis-interpretation of Imam Hanbal's statement). If Amad had meant
the direction towards the Ars (Throne) only, then this would be
known to Allahs slaves, because they know that Allahs limit from this
direction is the Ars, so we know then that the limit they do not know is
unqualified, and is not specified for the direction of the Ars (Bayaan
Talbis Al-Jahmiyyah, 1/438).
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Ibn Taymiyyah says " That something existing should not be increasing,
or decreasing, or neither increasing nor decreasing, and yet exist and
not have a size this is impossible " (Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah,
3/146).
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Ibn Taymiyyah says that Allahs (SWT) acts of creating come into existence
in Him (Zaat)
Ahle Sunnah Wal Jama'a believe that Allah (SWT) creates by His Power
without (self) changing or going through time. This is because anything
that has a beginning is only created.
To believe that Allahs (SWT) actions have a beginning implies that His
actions need to be created by another act, and that act by another act, and
so on.
An-Nasafi was a great Muslim scholar who lived over 900 years ago. He
explained the Qu'ran and authored many books. He says:
"TheKarraamiyyah (pre - Ibn Taymiyyah anthropo-morphists ) all claimed
that Allahs creating is an event in Allah with a beginning, and that
events occur in Allah (SWT). (He quotes this Qranic verse ) - Transcendent
(magnificent) is your Lord, the Lord of All-Greatness, far above what they
ascribe to Him. (As-Saaffaat 180)". (Tabiratu-l-Adillah, 141)."
An-Nasafi also says: " I really do not know how these unbelievers in God
speak the chatter (talk) of atheists and Greek philosophers and affirm
the beginning of the world, and then accept to believe that the
beginning-less and eternal ( Allah - SWT) is something in which events
(anything with a beginning) take place. How can they, when this
necessitates either believing that the Creator has a beginning, or that the
world (anything other than Allah) has no beginning.(Tabiratu-l-
Adillah, 501-502).
In contrast to the above, Ibn Taymiyyah says: It has become clear that
nothing can come into existence except from an actor (he means Allah -
SWT) that does something one after another.
Ibn Taymiyyah also says: An act is impossible except bit by bit. (A-
afadiyyah, 2/141)
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Ibn Taymiyyah says creation is eternal, and that Allah (SWT) has no choice,
but to create things
Based on his idea that Allahs (SWT) actions have a beginning, Ibn
Taymiyyah argues that Allah (SWT) has always been doing one act after
another (i.e., creating) without a beginning.
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The Correct Islamic Faith is that Allah (SWT) does not need, and is not
compelled to or obligated to do anything.
The influence for something (to exist) that Ibn Taymiyyah speaks of, will
be for a body to exist, or something to exist in a body, because he believes
nothing can exist except bodies.
Thus, according to Ibn Taymiyyah, Allah is the only eternal body among
an eternal series of other bodies that He was compelled to create,
although the type of bodies and events in them was His choice.
In other words, Ibn Taymiyyah says that the world is eternal, because
Allah (SWT) is eternally compelled to create something or another.
Ahle Sunnah believe that Allah is the Creator of all things, and that He did
not have to create anything, because He does not need anything and is not
obligated to do anything. Meaning, it is not a necessity for Aah to act, i.e
create, anything at all. This is because Allah is perfect, and it is not
compulsory for him to do anything, whatsoever.
Ibn Taymiyyah, however, does not accept the above and comments on a
statement of Ibn azm (994-1064 AD / 384-456 AH) : "And even
stranger than that is his (Ibn azms) claim that the scholars are in
consensus about declaring a kaafir the one that does not believe that
He (Allah -SWT) was eternally the only one in existence, and there was
nothing existing with Him, then He created everything as He willed.
(Naqd Maraatibi-l-Ijmaa, 303)
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Ibn Daqiq Al-Iid says: It happened from some of those who claim to
master intellectual matters, and incline towards Philosophy, to think
that the one that disagrees with the world having a beginning is not
declared a kaafir. and this is from blindness, or pretended blindness,
because the world having a beginning is one of those things that are
established by scholarly consensus and unequivocal (mutawaatir)
narrational evidences. (Fatu-l-Baarii, 12/202)
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Some Salafis are scrambling around the web like headless chicken, trying
to deny that Ibn Taymiyyah, said that Allah (SWT) is divisible. They are
frustrated to see that their real beliefs are getting exposed.
Let us look at what they generally quote from Ibn Taymiyyah. (we are
providing below Salafi translation)
The Salafis quote Ibn Taymiyyah as saying " And these two meanings of
divisibility (at-tajazzee and al-inqisaam) are from those (meanings) that
the Muslims are agreed upon that Allah (SWT) should be purified and
sanctified from, for indeed Allah, the Sublime, is "Ahad" and "Samad". He
does not separate into parts (yatajazzee, yataba'ad) and is not divisible
(munqasim) with the meaning that part of Him separates from another
(part) just like a divided, split-up body is separated like what is divided
of the connected bodies, such as bread, meat and clothing and so on.
A part of Him does not separate (from Him) like what separates from the
hawayaan (animate, mammals) of its superfluities. And He (Allah) is
purified of such meanings with the meaning that they are non-existent
(regarding Him) and are impossible for Him. Thus, His Essence does not
accept tafreeq o r tabeed (meanings of division, separation)". Bayaan
Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 3/12)
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Ibn Taymiyyah says: "Allah (SWT) does not separate into parts and is not
divisible, with the meaning that, part of Him separates from another
(part) just like a divided, split-up body is separated.He (Allah-SWT)) is
purified of such meanings with the meaning that they are non-existent
(regarding Him) and are impossible for Him".
Pay attention to this line in the above statement: with the meaning that
part of him separates from another part just like a divided, split-up, body
is separated.
Note also that there are other meanings of divisibility that Ibn Taymiyyah
does not deny as being true of Allah.
Ibn Taymiyyah says: ".the Imams behind this saying (he means Ar-
Raazi and others) of negating divisibility and separation, is not the
(meaning) of the presence of divisibility (al-inqisaam) where part of Him
separates from another part, or the possibility of that (actual separation).
(Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 3/12)
In essence, Ibn Taymiyyah is saying that nothing can exist, not even Allah
(SWT), unless it is quantitative and has an area.
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146/3 , )
Here, Ibn Taymiyyah is affirming his opinion that Allah (SWT) must have
a size.
Ibn Taymiyyah says - " Al-Aad and A-amad (are two names that)
Allah did not mention except in this Surah, and they negate from Allah
what does not befit Him in terms of likeness and resemblance and
composition and separation and being a body (Tajsiim), for verily His
name Al-Aad negates a like or something similar". (Bayaan Talbiis Al-
Jahmiyyah, 4 / 61)
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How come he is saying all of a sudden that Allah (SWT) is not a body!?
Ibn Taymiyyah says at another place - "And the purpose is to say that
whatever the Messenger ( ) brought is not denied by vague
utterances such as Jism (body) and others that may have meanings that
are invalid, while the one who denies them, denies both what is true and
what is false". (Majmuuu-l-Fataawaa, 5/433)
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In the above statement, Ibn Taymiyyah is affirming a body for Allah
(SWT). Therefore, meaning of Jism, Ibn Tayimiyyah is denying then, is
that of actual composition and the possibility of actual separation of
parts. What he does not deny is the size, shape and taking on different
shapes.
Ibn Taymiyyah likes to say that his opponents were influenced by Greek
Philosophy. However, from the above discussion, it is abundantly clear
that Ibn Taymiyyah himself was heavily influenced by Greek Mythology.
Ibn Bauah, the famous historian who met Ibn Taymiyyah has written in
his memoirs - There was something wrong with his (Ibn Taymiyyah's)
mind.
The six directions apply to all created things, which includes humans.
In other words, the Sunni belief is that attributing a limit to Allah makes the
person an un-believer.
Muslim scholars did not take literal meaning of this Hadith because
Allah(SWT) is not a body for something to bump into. They said it means
that it would fall by Allahs knowledge. This meaning was the consensus
after hypothesizing the authenticity of this Hadith (as this Hadith has a
weak narration).
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"Likewise, what descends from a high point on Earth to its lowest point,
which is its center, does not rise from there in that direction, except by
someone lifting it, resisting its downwards pull down towards the center
(i.e. the gravity pull.)
If it was hypothesized that the lifter was stronger (than the gravity pull),
then it would be rising towards the celestial sphere from there, and would
rise to Allah.
It was only called lowering from the viewpoint of what is in the minds of
the listeners in that what faces their feet is called falling.
Even if it was actually lowering only to the point of the (Earths) center,
and from there one would only be giving rope to the bucket, and there
would be no actual lowering..
However, the beneficial point is to clarify the surrounding and highness
from all directions (of the Earth).
The purpose (of the Hadith) is to clarify the meaning of the Creators
) just as He said that He grabs the Skies and ( surrounding
folds the Earth and the like, which all explains His surrounding of created
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Salafis and their like minded groups, in their desperation, are trying to
make people think that As-Sanusi [Sd Muammad ibn Al al-Sans al-
Mujhir al-asan al-Idrs, born 1787 in Northern Africa and died 1859,
Cyrenaica.] agrees with Ibn Taymiyyah regarding Ar-Raazis argument of
the need for composition for something with size.
The need for composition Ar-Raazi speaks of, and denies, could be true of
Allah, is an argument As-Sanusi accepts, and validates. That is, his
quoted refutation of the argument for implied composition is not
absolute, but for its use in a different context than this, and without
admitting that there is any implied need for composition.
As-Sanusi refutes this absolutely and says that the argument for need is
false, because there is no composition implied.
Why is that? Because the attributes are necessary, perfect, eternal and
unchanging. This is the essence of what As-Sanusi says.
As-Sanusi affirms that things with size do need composition, and validates
this argument.
This is not an argument that As-Sanusi is against. His books are full of
this type of arguments. The need for bodies to be specified in shape and
composition is a theme throughout, on which he bases the proof for the
createdness of all things with a size.
Since Allah has a size in Ibn Taymiyyahs view, and its shape is possible,
there is an implied need for composition. He says in affirmation of size:
"That something existing should not be increasing, or decreasing, or
neither increasing nor decreasing, and yet exist and not have a size this
is impossible". Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 3/146).
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146/3 ,) ) .
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The proof that Ibn Taymiyyah affirms that his deitys shape is possible and
not necessary, is in his Bucket Theology, where He says: and it is known
that Allah is able to surround. i.e. able to take on a shape to do so,
which means that it is not a necessary shape, but a possible one, and
therefore in need of specification. (Majmuuu-l-Fataawaa, 6/574)
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Q - Why the scholars of Syria, Jordan etc., do not say Ibn Taymiyyah
(rahimahumullah) but the scholars of (i) Deoband, (ii) Tabhlighee
Jama'at, (iii) Jama'at-e-Islami, (iv) Ahle Hadith, (v) Jama'atut Da'wa, (vi)
Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind, (vii) Millat-e-Islamia, (viii) Tanzeem-e-Islami,
(ix) Jama'atul Muslimeen, etc., and their famous scholars and preachers
do say it?
Isnt saying 'rahmatullah alai' just a dua that may Allah have mercy on
him?
Ans -
Maybe the followers and scholars of the above groups do not know
about Ibn Taymiyyah's anthropomorphism. But this looks a remote
possibility.
May be the followers and scholars of the above groups think that Ibn
Taymiyyah repented for his beliefs before his death. This is also a
remote possibility because we do not find any evidence in Salafi and
other groups' literature that Ibn Taymiyyah repented for his beliefs
before death. As a matter of fact they vigorously propagate his
blasphemous beliefs.
A number of the Imams of the Shafi'i school, among them Taqi al-
Din Subki, Ibn Hajar Haytami and al-Izz ibn Jama'a, gave formal
legal opinions (fatawa) that Ibn Taymiya w a s misguided and
misguiding in tenets of faith, and warned people from accepting his
theories.
After reading the above facts one can conclude that the scholars and
followers of various Muslim sects whose beliefs are not in line with truthful
Islamic believes run the risk of getting rejected by Allah(SWT) on the Day of
Judgment.
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