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Babylon is still Babylon
Many think that Mystery Babylon is America, or Italy (Rome), because it is a powerful, but
sinful, country. Actually, every nation now is a sinful country, so America is not that unique in
this. We need to go back, without prejudice, and look at the biblical description of Babylon.
Babylon is an enemy of Israel, and is described in Revelation as falling twice. Babylon is a city
that represents a wicked empire that the nations commit fornication with. that is, they will
compromise their morals to stay in league with her.
Babylon is also not a new enemy of Israel. In ancient times, it took the Israelites into captivity
for 70 years, before they were allowed to return to Israel by Cyrus.
References are to a real historical area in the Middle east, which includes modern Turkey,
Syrian, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Tbilisis, Yerevan, Azerbaijan, Lebanon, and Iran. The
capital city, Babylon, and the empire shared the same name. The actual city is destroyed, but the
area is still there.
Old and new testament references to the real historic location- Babylon:
Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of
his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, [and] told the sum of the matters.
Mic 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail:
for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go
[even] to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the
hand of thine enemies.
Zec 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest [with] the daughter of Babylon.
Zec 6:10 Take of [them of] the captivity, [even] of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah, which
are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son
of Zephaniah;
Mat 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried
away to Babylon:
Mat 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David [are] fourteen generations; and from
David until the carrying away into Babylon [are] fourteen generations; and from the
carrying away into Babylon unto Christ [are] fourteen generations.
Act 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan,
figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
1Pe 5:13 The [church that is] at Babylon, elected together with [you], saluteth you; and [so
doth] Marcus my son.
Prophetic Babylon:
There is much debate about who Babylon is today. Good scholarship must consider the
following:
1. the ancient capital city happens to be gone, but its empire is still there, under another name.
2. references in scripture that help us confirm the identity.
3. modern descriptions that match biblical descriptions.
The first clue is that Babylon falls twice, being unclean, full of devils, and full of hate.
End times reference:
Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great
city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication .
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is
fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of
every unclean and hateful bird.
America and Rome have been tagged to be Babylon by many. Immorality is everywhere. But, I
do not see this extreme description of being unclean, full of devils, and full of hate as applying
to them at this time.
Also, notice the similarity to the following passage in Isaiah.
Ancient reference:
Isa 21:9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, [with] a couple of horsemen. And he
answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath
broken unto the ground.
*** Notice that the expression Babylon is fallen, is fallen from Isaiah was also
used in the reference from Revelation. This cannot be just a coincidence. God
seems to be thinking of the same location to use the same description like this.

The next clue is the Babylon economy
Rev 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine
linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine [citron] wood, and all manner vessels
of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil,
and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and
souls of men.
All or most countries carry on trade, and are known for their specific exports and imports. How
does the economy of America, or Rome, compare to the list above?
America:
What does the high tech U.S. economy export? Are you ready for this? Hides and skins, metal
ores and scrap, pulp and waste paper, tobacco and cigarettes, rice, cotton, coal, meat, wheat,
gold, animal feeds, soybeans and corn.
Main industries petroleum, steel, motor vehicles, aerospace, telecommunications, chemicals,

electronics, food processing, consumer goods, lumber, mining, defense
Export goods agricultural products (soybeans, fruit, corn) 9%, industrial supplies (organic
chemicals) 27%, capital goods (transistors, aircraft, motor vehicle parts, computers,
telecommunications equipment) 49%, consumer goods (automobiles, medicines) 15% (2003)
Import goods agricultural products 5%, industrial supplies 33% (crude oil 8%), capital goods
30% (computers, telecommunications equipment, motor vehicle parts, office machines, electric
power machinery), consumer goods 32% (automobiles, clothing, medicines, furniture, toys)
(2003)
References:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ptD9p1ry0L0J:www.vdare.com/roberts/trade2.htm+what+does+th
e+us+export&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
Rome:
Main industries tourism, commerce, communications, machinery, iron and steel, chemicals,
food processing, textiles, automobiles, home appliances, clothing, footwear, ceramics
Export goods engineering products, textiles and clothing, production machinery, motor
vehicles, electric goods, transport equipment, chemicals; food, beverages and tobacco; minerals,
nonferrous metals
Import goods engineering products, chemicals, transport equipment, energy products, minerals
and nonferrous metals, textiles and clothing; automobiles, electronics, food, beverages, tobacco
References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy
Conclusion so far:
Both America and Italy fail the economic description for Babylon
So, continue the search !
If one searches for each merchandise item, this is what one will find:
gold spain, greece, Iran
spain, canada, mexico, peru, bolivia,
australia, USA, balkans (Istanbul), bosnia (
silver ottoman)
precious stones arabia
fine linen asia minor. Greece, egypt
purple Lebanon
silk syria, greece
Persian gulf, assyria, palestine, africa,
citron, wood lebanon
ivory africa (Ivory coast-muslim)
marble Iran, Israel, Palestine. Greece, lebanon
brass spain, Pakistan, Iran
iron Iran
incense spain., arabia
frankincense Oman
myrrh Yemen
cinnamon spain, arabia, egypt
wine greece, syria
Iran, Pakistan, turkey, sudan, syria, jordan,
sheep saudia arabia, egypt
cattle Pakistan
oil Iran, oil
olive oil Spain, Italy, greece, Turkey
flour Pakistan, turkey
wheat Pakistan, turkey
horses Iran, arabia
Iran ( Sumarian), egypt,palestine, Iran (
chariots cars)
bodies/souls of
africa (arab dominated), Pakistan, India
men
One can see that most of the merchandise comes from the Mediterranean and middle east
regions. We will end up right back in the ancient Babylonian geographic area. So, when God
mentioned Babylon, He meant the real one, not a future ideological one. Babylon has always
been at odds with God. While the one capital city was destroyed, it left the rest of the region to
continue and grow until the end times.
If one just reflects, America and Rome do not conduct slave trades (bodies and souls of men),
and have not in centuries. The Muslim slave trade continues in Africa and elsewhere. While
America sells cars, it does not sell horses. Items like frankincense, ivory and citron wood are
not even found in America. Muslims control the ivory coast of Africa. You may find marble in
Rome, but not citron wood. That is a very specific product to identify Babylon. Maybe this list
was intentionally this detailed and specific, so that the end times Babylon would be properly
identified.
Horses and 200 miles
Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the
winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred
furlongs.
Here, we have 2 more hints. When this city is invaded, horses are used, and the blood from the
battle covers 1600 furlongs (about 200 miles).
Where do we find this many horses, and what area around a particular city would be 200 miles
in length or width?
While cars are the mode of transportation, or in the case of war, tanks, seeing horses here makes
me think again of the Arab world. Others have horses in some numbers, but who would actually
use them in an attack? This is something to ponder.
Geography
Babylon was an empire, not just a city. And it included more than modern day Iraq. Keep this in
mind when Babylon is mentioned. Recall the Babylonian map presented earlier.
The Babylon who persecutes the apostles and prophets
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of
the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, [thou] heaven, and [ye] holy apostles and prophets; for God hath
avenged you on her.
Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were
slain upon the earth.
The apostles and prophets would have to know who this Babylon is, so it is an empire known
during the time of Christ and before. It persecutes Christians and Jews. What empire does this
over the ages, and even now?
Babylon is the mother of sorcery
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the
bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the
great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Sorcery originated in ancient Babylon, and spread to Western Asia, and then to Europe. The
majority of the books in the library of Nineveh dealt with sorcery and magic.
Reference:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1253424
Babylon has a golden cup full of abominations
Jer 51:7 Babylon [hath been] a golden cup in the LORDS hand, that made all the earth
drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants
of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and
precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and
filthiness of her fornication:
The Babylon of Jeremiah and the Babylon of Revelation both have this golden cup. The wine
represents spiritual fornication, or turning away from the true God, Yahweh. All the earth is
involved with both Babylon because it is the same Babylon. Nothing has changed.
Babylon sits on a beast full of blasphemy
Rev 17:3 and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,
having seven heads and ten horns.
I do not see the seven heads and ten horns as relating to America or Rome. The beast is
described as a combination of ancient empires:
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of
a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his
seat, and great authority.
Daniel 7 clearly identifies these beast empires as belonging to the Middle Eastern and Western
Asian countries. Babylon, according to Revelation 13, still sits where she has sat for thousands
of years. The beast represents the modern Islamic countries, which replace Yahweh, God of
Israel, with Allah, who defies Yahweh (blasphemy, contempt, provocation). Blasphemy is also
cursing God, and Islamic protesters do curse, provoke, and have contempt for, everyones God
but theirs.
Reference:
http://www.verulam-arc.com/Religion%20of%20peace.htm
For more about the 4th Beast of Daniel and the beast of Revelation Click here for more
Babylon (the empire) still seems to be Babylon. Nothing has changed. It is still corrupt. It is still
evil. It is still full of devils, and full of hate. And it is still the enemy of Israel, after thousands of
years.
Finally, ancient Babylon, the city, may reappear. They have been excavating the ancient city. Or
maybe an alternate city in the same empire will represent the resurrected Babylon.
Note: Most people know there are various opinions on who Babylon is. For those that stay open
to all possibilities, it is most important to recognize that there is more than one system or group,
city, or location that could fit this description.
There is evil everywhere, and we should not restrict our focus to just one view. If we did this,
we would end up blind to all the other evils that exist. Anywhere there is a system that rebels
against God and the Lord Jesus Christ is some form of Babylon.
For the view that Babylon has a sister city that has been predicted to emulate Babylon in its
fate, see
Babylons Twin City in scripture Click here for more
For the purpose of balance, there are other views that America is a spiritual Babylon. For this,
see
Dimitru Duduman America will burn Click here for more
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Babylon is still Babylon Heaven Awaits said this on July 14, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Reply
2. Hi Marianne,
I respect your opinion on Babylon but I have to disagree. I firmly believe that Mystery Babylon is a
two-part entity. The first part is described in Rev 18:4 Come out of her My people. This is the 501(c)3
state organized instition of mans religion or as we call it today church and God calls it the Harlot that
rides the Beast (government system). It is the apostate church that has compromised with the state that
God is calling all His true children who hunger and thirst for righteousness out of. The second part of
the entity is and can be no other than the US of A. Although we were founded on Christian principals, if
you do an in depth study of history from both the Christian perspective and from the pagan perspective,
you will find that from the very beginning there has been a secret Luciferian society undergirding this
nation. A shadow government if you will. The religious practices, rituals and human sacrifices that
they practice are the same ones that were practiced in the OT Babylon and it is a mystery religion
which is really Satanism in disguise. When I first got saved the Holy Spirit revealed to me that Mystery
Babylon was America. As far as your interpretation of Rev 18:2 on the imported goods, I believe that
this is not an entirely literal interpretation but is meant to depict the level of luxurious items imported
to America. America is a very spoiled nation and very wasteful. All of the items mentioned in Rev 18:2
and more are imported every day from places like China, and Mexico. For example horses and
chariots would describe automobiles today. John would not have had a word for automobile or a lot
of the other luxuries we import to America. I would like to attach an article that was written by someone
else who believes essentially the same thing I do that might help to shed some light on this for you. I
copied and pasted the article as is, so the SHOUTING (caps) is not mine but the article is very
informative. Sorry about the length. Its about 3 pages long. Lynn D.
BABYLON THE GREAT

The vast majority of Christians in the U.S. have been taught that America is simply not in Bible
prophecy. No matter where one may turn, America is not there, either by name or by any form of code
name either. Thus say the host of Americas Christian clergy to their flock. The second thing they are
told is that Babylon is NEVER TAUGHT ANYWHERE IN SCRIPTURE AS A NATION. Babylon is a
SYSTEM, and most view it as a RELIGIOUS SYSTEM OF SOME SORT. Prophecy said these views
would surface at the time of the end. It is the mark of apostasy to DENY YOUR IDENTITY, YOUR
PERSONAL SIN, AND THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION. In fact, that is the essence of all
apostasy, THE REJECTION OF SCRIPTURE AS IT APPLIES TO A PERSON, COMMUNITY OR
NATION. It is always SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND AT SOME UNKNOWN
FUTURE TIME. Never is it NOW, US and OUR NATION.
Does it not seem odd to you that America, the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, the greatest
evangelical nation; that took the Gospel of Christ to the four corners of the world; THE RICHEST
NATION ON THE EARTH, who has given more aid to nations than any other; THE NATION TO
HAVE WON TWO MAJOR WORLD WARS and many others; IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE
BIBLE? That God would forget a nation that has been central to the survival of Israel in this age? Not
even in a cryptic way? That is like saying God is blind in one eye, and cannot see out of the other! It is
accusing God of utter negligence! But it is not God who is NEGLIGENT. It is not God who FORGOT
AMERICA in prophecy. It is not God who failed to paint a picture that was OBVIOUS to those that
wanted to find it. IT IS NOT GOD, BUT THE FALSE PROPHETS OF AMERICA WHO HAVE
UTTERLY FAILED THEIR FLOCK. They are DECEIVED, AND THUS ARE DECEIVERS AND
HYPOCRITES, WHO LEAD MILLIONS TO ETERNAL RUIN.
God told the citizens of BABYLON THE GREAT, AMERICA, exactly what would happen in America,
and pointed a finger directly at the CHRISTIAN SHEPHERDS. Why do you suppose that God would
pick a specific group and lay the blame right at their feet? Because it is GODS PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ANTICHRIST NATION and the SIGNS
PRECEDING IT. Remember that antichrist rises in DARK DECEPTION. My people (Christians) hath
been LOST SHEEP (UNSAVED, UNREGENERATE HELL BOUND): THEIR SHEPHERDS (THE
CHRISTIAN CLERGY, THE EVANGELISTS, THE PREACHERS, THE TEACHERS) HAVE
CAUSED THEM TO GO ASTRAY,..(Jeremiah 50:6). The shepherds of Gods people in Babylon
America embrace a FALSE SALVATION GOSPEL (eternal security/once saved, always saved or water
baptismal salvation/regeneration and preterism which LIES about the future prophecies of the BOOK
OF REVELATION. (Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Peter 2:1-3). These manmade gospels are UTTERLY
FALSE GOSPELS! That is what Jeremiah means when he says: they have turned them AWAY on the
MOUNTAINS; they have gone from MOUNTAIN TO HILL, they have FORGOTTEN THEIR
RESTING PLACE (the plain TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD).
God fights His wars IN THE VALLEY. True salvation lies IN THE VALLEY. If you refuse the
VALLEY EXPERIENCE (THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF THE SALVATION DOCTRINE) you will
never FIND YOUR RESTING PLACE. Jesus said you MUST PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND
FOLLOW HIM. Matt 10:38. Babylons gospel of salvation HAS NO CROSS, NO DEATH OF SELF,
AND THEREFORE NO TRUE LIFE. It is an utterly false salvation doctrine. IT SWEEPS THE VAST
MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS INTO ETERNAL HELLFIRE. That is why God says they
ARE LOST SHEEP. They ARE lost, LOST FOREVER. We are confounded, because we have heard
REPROACH; SHAME HATH COVERED OUR FACES: FOR STRANGERS ARE COME INTO THE
SANCTUARIES OF THE LORDS HOUSE. (Jeremiah 51:51). Indeed, the false Christian clergy ARE
STRANGERS and they hold forth a FALSE GOSPEL, that leads to their REPROACH AND LOSS at
the judgment seat of Christ. They shall one and all BE ASHAMED, and now face ETERNAL RUIN
FOR EVER AND EVER. This is the primary reason why AMERICAN CHRISTIANS reject that
America is Babylon. They have been UTTERLY MISLEAD BY FALSE SHEPHERDS. The mark of a
FALSE TEACHER is one who DENIES OR CONTRADICTS THE WORD OF GOD, usually in an
effort to prove his/her views correct. WE ARE ALL LIARS, AND GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO
TELLS THE TRUTH. Titus 1:1
Babylon is referred to in the Scriptures as a nation both directly and indirectly. Often the term
KINGDOM and NATION are used interchangeably. Old Testament prophecies identify BABYLON
THE GREAT as a SINGULAR ENTITY, not some world wide system. Jeremiah 50:12 is a good place
to start: Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: BEHOLD, THE
HINDER-MOST OF THE NATIONS shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.
This is a direct reference to BABYLON THE GREAT, who is also called THE DAUGHTER OF
BABYLON. Jeremiah calls her directly THE HINDERMOST OF THE NATIONS. You view this from
his perspective, as he looks down the tunnel of time the HINDERMOST from him would be the LAST
BABYLON. That means the LAST BABYLON TO RISE BEFORE THE END. The last and the
YOUNGEST OF ALL THE GREAT NATIONS AT THE END TIME. In comparison with the other
nations of the world, at the time of the end, SHE WILL BE THE YOUNGEST AND ALSO THE MOST
POWERFUL NATION AMONG THE GREAT NATIONS. America fits that description TO A TEE.
This latter day Babylon has a mother, which is also a NATION. This mother was responsible for
birthing this mighty Babylon of the end times. WHO IS THE MOTHER OF IRAQ? If you read this
verse carefully, it says that the MOTHER NATION PRECEDED BABYLON, GAVE BIRTH TO HER,
WATCHES HER RISE TO FULL POWER, AND WATCHES HER DIE IN FIRE. Again, WHO IS
THE MOTHER OF IRAQ? Iraq has none. Who is the mother of Rome, which is often presented as
BABYLON? Rome is not a nation, but a city. Further, SHE HAS NO MOTHER. BABYLON THE
GREAT is always shown as a SINGLE NATION FROM HER BIRTH TO HER RISE TO FULL
POWER AND GLORY.
However, AMERICA has a mother. This mother was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR HER BIRTH.
That mother PRECEDED HER. England gave birth to America, and England is still around, and
ENGLAND WILL WATCH AMERICA BURN. England is further confirmed as the mother of
BABYLON THE GREAT by Daniel the Prophet in Daniel 7:4 (THE LION). Ezekiel also mentions it in
Ezekiel 38/39 as TARSHISH, who gives birth to young cubs. Tarshish is a cryptic reference to
ENGLAND and her young cubs are America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. Daniel refers to her
as a LION. The national symbol of England is A LION. The eagle wings on top of the lion IS
AMERICA, HER DAUGHTER. Americas national symbol is THE EAGLE WITH OUTSTRETCHED
WINGS.
Habakkuk is a key prophet in identification of BABYLON THE GREAT. He is usually ignored by
prophecy experts. For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans (New Babylon), THAT BITTER AND HASTY
NATION, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwelling places that are not
theirs (Think GEORGE W. BUSH!). (Habakkuk 1:6). Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O
DAUGHTER OF THE CHALDEANS: for thou shalt no more be called, THE LADY OF KINGDOMS
(Isaiah 47:5). (STATUE OF LIBERTY!) She is presented in Scripture as being the MOST
POWERFUL OF ALL END TIME NATIONS. None can come close to her in terms to WEALTH,
POWER, MILITARY, AGRICULTURE, MANUFACTURING, MU-SIC,(horns and flutes) CATTLE,
HORSES, AUTO-MOBILES AND TRUCKS (Chariots), AIR-CRAFT AND SPACE
EXPLORATION. All of these attributes are listed by the prophets as they describe BABYLON THE
NATION.
Babylon the Great is also referred to as the DAUGHTER OF BABYLON, and also THE DAUGHTER
OF THE CHALDEANS. It is important to note that IT IS AGAIN A SINGULAR DAUGHTER. It is
not DAUGHTER(S) OF BABYLON, but the ONE SINGULAR DAUGHTER. The word for daughter
is bath, and it means OFFSPRING OR DESCENDENT of Babylon. LIKE MOTHER, LIKE
DAUGHTER. Mighty Babylon, THE GREAT NATION OF THE END TIMES, is going to be
PULVERIZED. She is to be UTTERLY DEMOLISHED FOR HER WICKEDNESS: ABORTIONS,
MURDERS/WARMONGERING, HOMOSEXUALITY, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, DRUG ABUSE,
SORCERY, VIOLENCE, THEFT, SELFISHNISS, GREED, APOSTASY, ETC. Come down, and sit
in the dust, O VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON, sit on the ground: THERE IS NO THRONE, O
DAUGHTER OF THE CHALDEANS: for thou shalt no more be called TENDER AND
DELICATE(Isaiah 47:1).
Here Isaiah calls BABYLON THE GREAT the QUEEN OF THE NATIONS, but her throne has been
taken from her. She has been REMOVED AS THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD,
and made to sit in the dust. In other words BABYLON THE NATION is responsible for the
BABYLONIAN WORLD WIDE SYSTEM IT CREATES. And behind it all stands THE MYSTERY
OF INIQUITY- WHICH THE BIBLE DEFINES AS SECRET LUCIFERIAN RELIGIOUS ORDERS:
FREEMASONS, ROSICRUCIANS, COUNCIL OF FOREIGN RELATIONS, CIA, BILDERBERGS,
SKULL AND BONES, ORDER OF THE GOLDEN DAWN, ETC. THESE ARE ALSO KNOWN AS
THE MYSTERY RELIGIONS OR ILLUMINATI, COLLECTIVELY. The Lord also uses the word
MOUNTAIN to describe a kingdom or nation. Jeremiah 51 is a prophecy against the nation Babylon.
Jeremiah says in 51:25: Behold, I am against thee, O DESTROYING MOUNTAIN, saith the Lord,
which destroyest ALL THE EARTH: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down
from the rocks (other nations), and will make thee a BURNT MOUNTAIN (nation).
The argument that Babylon is ONLY A WORLD SYSTEM utterly contradicts the Lord God and his
prophets. BABYLON IS ALWAYS PRESENTED AS A NATION THAT GOES FORTH FROM ONE
SPECIFIC LOCATION AND FROM THAT LOCATION CONQUERS THE WHOLE WORLD
THROUGH THE SYSTEMS SHE CREATED. A spider weaves a large web, but she has to start from
one place. Scripture is adamant and clear: SHE BEGINS AT BABYLON THE NATION, AND
BABYLON THE CITY. Through her slowly expanding system of trade, economics, military power,
political power and religious power, BABYLONS WEB SNARES THE WORLD. That is why God
says that THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, THE PROPHETS AND ALL THAT WERE SLAIN UPON
THE EARTH (Revelation 18:24), CAN BE TRACED BACK TO BABYLON THE NATION, AND TO
BABYLON THE LITERAL CITY. America is turning rapidly ANTI-CHRISTIAN. The UNITED
NATIONS, for all of its speech about HATRED AND INTOLORENCE, is ANTI-CHRISTIAN TO ITS
CORE.
The KING OF BABYLON THE NATION, is presented in the Scripture AS THE ANTICHRIST
(LUCIFER). THIS KING, OF THE NATION BABYLON THE GREAT, goes forth and conquers and
then RULES OVER THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. Check Isaiah 14:4-6, Jeremiah 51:25; 44;
Habakkuk 1:6-10; 2:4-5; Revelation 13:7-8; 17:18; 18:24, and you will see this. It is THE KING OF
BABYLON in every single instance that GOES FORTH TO CONQUER AND TO DESTROY AND
RULE THE NATIONS. It is ALWAYS BABYLON THE NATION AND THE CITY, from whence he
gets his POWER TO DO IT. It is BABYLON THE NATION, through its deceptive front THE UNITED
NATIONS, that rules the world FROM THE GREAT CITY BABYLON, which is NEW YORK CITY.
That is why the UN is located in NEW YORK. It is no accident. It is not a coincidence!! That means
that THE KING OF BABYLON must be, and has to be, A PRESIDENT/RULER OVER BABYLON
THE NATION, and will also be at the end, A SUPER SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE UNITED
NATIONS, A WORLD PRESIDENT. The occult knows ALL OF THIS. It is in almost all of their
writings. They have written about the SECRET DESTINY OF AMERICA. Isaiah and Jeremiah claim
the occult have labored from the inception of the nation to bring LUCIFER into the world. If the
OCCULT FORCES KNOW THAT AMERICA IS TO SPAWN AND BE RULED BY LUCIFER (THE
KING OF BABYLON), then why cannot Christians, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SPIRITUALLY
AWAKE, SEE IT?
The ANSWER LIES IN THE REJECTION OF THE WORD OF GOD; IN APOSTASY. It lies in an
utter refusal to ACCEPT GOD AT HIS WORD. Jeremiah said the Christian leaders in America would
UTTERLY REJECT THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE, and lead their flocks astray. THAT PROPHECY
HAS BEEN FULFILLED IN AMERICA.
The context is plain and simple. BABYLON THE GREAT IS AN END TIME NATION, THAT
PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN END TIME EVENTS. To claim otherwise is to UTTERLY
CONTRADICT GOD. It is to spit in His face and call him a liar. The refusal to accept the fact that
BABYLON THE GREAT IS A NATION AMONG THE NATIONS is one of the PRIMARY
REASONS why many modern day prophetic scholars cannot understand WORLD EVENTS, as they
relate to literal prophecy. And the false teachers of preterism (Revelation fulfilled in 70 AD) ARE IN
COMPLETE DARKNESS! They are thus DECEIVED, AND ARE DECEIVING OTHERS TO THEIR
UTTER DESTRUCTION.
They are looking at the European Union and some form of REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE, which
according to the Scripture, WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Did you know that John the Revelator UTTERLY
DENIES A REVIVAL OF ROME? This is not to say the EU is not important, for the EU is in reality the
formation of BIOREGION TWO of the UNITED NATIONS TEN WORLD REGIONS. It too will play
a major role in the future. So these folks are always looking at some other place, while ALL OF IT IS
HAPPENING RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE. The United Nations is rising up right in front of them,
the American government is becoming more draconian and dictatorial, more openly antichrist and the
false prophets continue to CHEER THEM ON and give them credibility in the phony voting charade!
America was born AS A GODLY, CHRIST FEARING NATION, but she will soon turn and utterly
destroy her heritage and rise up as the LEADING CHRIST HATING NATION IN THE WORLD. It has
happened exactly as Jeremiah said it would. New York City is the largest SEAPORT CITY in the
Western Hemisphere, and America is surrounded by warm water seaports and trades by the sea with
every nation upon earth. That is why all the merchants will stand afar from the terror of her torment and
weep (for their loss of income) when she is destroyed. Rev 18:11. God said that Babylon the Great
would be a nation formed out of every tribe and tongue on earth, who slowly migrated in to ONE
NATION and formed THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and that she is INSANE WITH
HER IDOLS. That is why America has E PLURIBUS UNUM as its motto! It was foretold by God!
The U.S. Military is being used by the United Nations, as God said Babylon would have the greatest
military machine the world ever knew or ever would know, but in the end, because she rejected Christ, it
would fail her, her mighty men would become as women. WE ALREADY HEAR OF WOMEN
FIGHTING IN IRAQ DUE TO A SHORTAGE OF SOLDIERS! THE AMERICAN MILITARY IS
BEING DOWNSIZED AND ITS LEADERS ARE CLAIMING THERE IS NO MAJOR THREAT
GOD SAID THEY WOULD DO EXACTLY THAT.
America is the central nation involved in GLOBALISM, and is the chief instigator of the NEW
WORLD ORDER, and it is America that issued State Department Document 7277. American
Corporations and their leaders have spanned the globe, for they are the MIGHTY MERCHANTS OF
BABYLON THE GREAT, whom God calls THE GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH. AMERICA WILL
BE, AND HAS TO BE THE KEY ANTICHRIST NATION OF THE END TIMES. He will go forth in
anger and RULE THE WORLD FROM NEW YORK CITY, called the GOLDEN CITY, right at the
UNITED NATIONS. (Isaiah 14:4-6) UNTIL AMERICA IS DESTROYED. The United Nations will
soon be granted the right to TAX AMERICANS, and it will destroy the nations through that ability!
ITS COMING, AND ITS COMING FAST. GOD TOLD US via his prophets, Jeremiah, Isaiah,
Habakkuk, and a host of others that the NATION, BABYLON THE GREAT, would be all of this and
much more. Jesus Christ said that as it was in the days of Noah, so would it be again. Many Christians
do not realize that Noah lived 350 years AFTER the flood. He saw Nimrods BABYLONIA (The
nation). He saw the MIGHTY CITY BABYLON that sat within the boundaries of the nation Babylonia.
He saw the TOWER OF BABEL, that was beside the GREAT CITY. AS IT WAS, SO IT SHALL BE
AGAIN.
Is it coincidence that THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, A LADY, sits in NEW YORK HARBOR, NOT
FAR FROM THE UNITED NATIONS? OR THAT THOSE INVOLVED WITH THIS STATUE
HOLD TO A RELIGION IDENTICAL TO NIMROD, THE FIRST ANTICHRIST? WAKE UP, O YE
CHRISTIANS, FOR THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT!! It is mere coincidence that America reflects in
every way ancient Babylonia? From her laws to her hedonistic ways to her three class system, she
mimics ancient Babylon. Is it mere coincidence that within the confines of Americas boundaries lies a
CITY ON A RIVER? That is known as BABYLON ON THE HUDSON? Is it coincidence that within
that City, is a glass tower that sits BY THE RIVER, and that tower represents mans attempt to rule the
world without God? Is it coincidence that the United Nations religion is identical to ANCIENT
NIMROD? That the UN stands for GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, and is pushing hard for a one world
economy, and wants the world to embrace her RELIGION?
You have a choice to make. You can either believe God or follow the false prophets of Babylon. You
can either accept the truth of Scripture, or the apostasy of the false shepherds. You can either save your
soul, and count it worthy to escape (Luke 21:36), or you can hate your soul, and cast your lot with the
Babylonian false shepherds of eternal ruin. IT IS YOUR CHOICE. THE IDENTITY OF AMERICA AS
BABYLON THE GREAT IS YOUR KEY TO THE WHOLE MYSTERY OF THE END TIMES!
Lynn D. said this on July 17, 2008 at 10:08 pm | Reply

o If one just reflects, America and Rome do not conduct slave trades (bodies and souls of men),
and have not in centuries.
In response to this I saw a movie on women and girls who are forced into the sex slave industry
(cant remember the name of the movie now) but at the end of it the main character said that
America was the number one in sex slavery.
Andrew said this on December 24, 2012 at 1:00 am | Reply
o America is NOT Babylon, but it is a PART of Babylon. Babylon is that great CITY that rules
over the kings of the earth. America is not a city. Babylon is a satanic world system that has
been around since the days of Nimrod, with an economic, religious and governmental aspect.
This system controls all governments of the world. It will control the government of the
Antichrist. The Beast has seven heads. One of those heads received a fatal would. In the last days
that head will be revived. (It is not the beast that receives the wound, but one of the heads).
Daniel told Nebuchadnezzar You are that head. Babylon will live again. It is being rebuilt. It
will become the new commercial and religious center of the world, replacing New York. The
woman in the basket will be carried to Babylon (Zechariah). It will become a haunt for every evil
thing. The beast the ascends out of the abyss will rule from Babylon, but he and the ten kings
will hate the religious aspect and will destroy it ( according to Gods purposes ) and during the
second half of the tribulation, will set up the mark of the beast system and the worship of the
Beast. Later God will destroy the economic aspect (seemingly through destruction caused by
nuclear war The great city was split into three parts and the cities of the nations collapsed
The merchants saw the smoke of her burning every island fled away and the mountain
could not be found . etc.
.maybe.
Todd Ott said this on January 20, 2013 at 10:44 pm | Reply
o Its not about you! Gods plan has always been about His people the Jewish Nation of Israel. If
you cant see this then you need to go back and read from Genesis to Revelation to get the
central theme of its meaning. We as Gentiles were grafted into the plan of God because of the
disobedience of His people. We are living in a time of Grace, nothing more. Thank God for His
mercy! We as Americans have always relished the attention of being a world power, but in real
truth the Nation of Israel is where Gods attention is. If you plan on continuing the studding of
future events then just remember this, dont try to unveil something that is not there. be humble
and thank God that we had a purpose in being a nation for a while that had some what of a
Christian foundation and a witness for Christ, because soon it will return to the Jewish Nation of
Israel and that is a fact.
Gerrit said this on April 25, 2014 at 3:48 pm | Reply
good point
Marianne said this on April 25, 2014 at 4:00 pm | Reply

Gerrit tell me who was Judah? He is but one tribe of 12. dont sell out the rest of the
tribes to just set the Jews. Remember they were named after their Father Jacob who was
renamed Israel. And YHVH scattered them all over the world you know them through
being the Christian nations. Judah and the 10 tribes have not been joined back together
yet. Yes! Read to show thyself approved.
Rebecca said this on April 23, 2016 at 1:58 am | Reply
I concur. Genesis 17:7 double promise to Abraham. Romans 11 grafting into the garden
tree and Jews first for the sake of their forefathers. Yeshua even said he would feed the
children before the dogs.
Andrew Foster said this on September 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm | Reply
3. Hi Lynn,
Well, you certainly did an eloquent job of defending your views. I agree that America and Christianity
has turned sour, and corrupt, and will pay for this. Apostasy is so widespread that truly sincere
Christians are having a hard time finding a good church.
Time will tell, as events start to unfold. I hope people will prepare themselves for the final events with a
pure heart.
blessings
marianne
Marianne said this on July 17, 2008 at 11:55 pm | Reply
4. Marianne, you are so right on about this. The Spirit revealed this to me soveregnly, I will tell you how.
While praying and pondering on the woman who rides the beast with 7 heads, one head had a deadly
wound. The Spirit of God told me to go to the Bible, letting it interpret itself, and find out which
kingdom received the deadly wound, then I would know who the last beast of Revelation will be. I
found it in Nahum 3:19, referring to Nenevah, ancient Babylon. So the head or king of the last beast will
be the king of Babylon, which makes everything fit perfectly, with Islam and all of the scriptures. Also,
a Muslim neighbor informed me she was from The City of 7 Mountains, Israel! She called it Jordan,
or Palestine! This puts Rome out of the picture completely.7 hills are not 7 mountains, as the King
James describes!
Decie Smith said this on August 1, 2008 at 2:24 pm | Reply
5. Hi Decie,
Thank you for your insights. If you check Iraqs history, the last Hashemite king that ruled and was over
thrown, King Faisal, was killed by Saddaam Hussein.
in 1958,
Thus, there was a a blow to the head of the Hashemite kingdom, when its king was killed.
Sharif Ali bin al-Hussein is thought by some to be a legitimate heir to the position of King of Iraq, based
on his relationship to the last monarch, the late King Faisal II.
Therefore, it is possible that in the future, if the current Iraqi government continues to falter, that the
Hashemite kingdom is re-instated in Iraq.
If this occurs, the wound to the head will be healed.
There are many places where cities are on hills or mountains. Jordan is one place. Istanbul is another.
Iran is full of mountains.. etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kings_of_Iraq
blessings
marianne
Marianne said this on August 1, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Reply
6. Very in-depth article you have. Im not sure that we are supposed to know the true meaning of
Babylon. There are many things that we will only know in the future. It is interesting to read our
Bible, to research, to try and find the definition of things in the Bible. But I truly believe that there are
things that only God knows the meaning of, even though He inspired the writings about those things.
Just my opinion.
Debbie said this on August 1, 2008 at 9:02 pm | Reply
7. Hey Debbie,
I agree with you. I am digging for any clue as to who the Babylon is. Maybe I am way off, but even if I
am, it is helpful to consider the Islamic world. Time will tell, I guess.
blessings
marianne
8. The deadly wound had to have been to a past king, didnt it? Since it said that the beast that was, and is
not, and is yet to come.he is the eighth, that is of the seven, that the whole world wonders after? I
personally believe it is juat the empire of Babylon becoming a world -wide tyrant once again,
demanding that everyone bow to the beast(Alla-Satan) or be killed. The wound to the head, a wound by
the sword but did live, is symbolic of Gods judicial judgment of Babylon as prophesied in Nahum 3.
Interestingly, God prophesied in Genesis that Satans seed would have its head bruised (which means to
gape open) and that is what happened to ancient Babylon. Now here they are again, Satans seed, in
control of the world economy etc., with the agenda to take over the world. And with the money and man
power and satanic thrust to do it!! Babylon is fallen, is fallen, as you said, means that it will happen
again and I personally cannot wait to have the earth cleansed of Satan and his hordes from
Hell.thank you for your quick response to me. If you could email me, I would love to chat with you
about the mark and what God has taught me.
o Hi, i will love to have a chat with you and share some vital God showed revelations i have. I will
be glad to have you chat with me. Thank you.
Pastor Isaac Emmanuel said this on October 7, 2012 at 7:20 am | Reply
Leave your comments here.
Marianne said this on October 7, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
9. Hi Decie,
It does make sense that Babylon is really Babylon. It has been an enemy for thousands of years to Israel.
When you get the response email, just hit the reply button, and you will get me directly.
blessings
marianne
10. IN RESPONSE TO DEBBIE: Daniel said that in the last days that the wise would understand and do
exploits. Believe it or not, there are some of us who have the Spirit of God in us, with the wisdom He
alone can give, and the letters He wrote to us, in His Holy Word, He intends for us to understand!
There are too many people writing books that are not inspired by God, which makes the simplicity of
scripture a confused, jumbled up mess. If you had never read Hal Lindsey and the other pseudo-
prophets, you would see that Babylon is simply what it says it is. BABYLON.
11. Babylon
The Lord said there is a nation known unto me as Babylon. They have spoken evil unto my people
Israel, and as they have spoken they have spoken evil unto me.
Today I have sent a great heavenly host of angels to destroy these people. My angels shall destroy the
evil spirits and their evil counterparts, with their mighty swords. A slaughtering shall start today saith
the Lord.
This prophecy came to me in the evening of the first of August 2008.
Billy
cornishevangelist.wordpress.com/
EVANGELIST BILLY BOLITHO

http://www.evangelistbillybolitho.blogspot.com
cornishevangelist said this on August 2, 2008 at 7:31 am | Reply

12. Dear Rev Billy
Thank you for sharing the Word God gave you. The world will never be able to rest peacefully until
Babylon is destroyed.
blessings
marianne
13. There are no more prophecies to be given. All prophecy has been given to mankind through the
prophets. Some prophecy does deal with the destruction of Babylon.
I must admit, I do think America has lost her Christian base, and as such can now be used by Lucifer in
a one world Tower of Babel, or New World Order. We are watching it unfold with the central banks of
Europe, and North America. It is called the FED here.
Leatherneck said this on September 24, 2008 at 9:09 pm | Reply
14. Hi Leatherneck,
I agree. We are almost at the end of the broad road, in America and in the world. For those on the
narrow path, there is hope at the end, but only after the greatest fight we have ever been in. I am glad
there are some leathernecks around to help me fight.
blessings
marianne
Marianne said this on September 24, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Reply
15. I agree with Lynn and share her views. As for me, Babylon has more spiritual meaning than
geographical location. Like it is mentioned in Isaiah 19:3 about confused spirit of Egypt. Anyway, Im
awfully glad I found that website and enjoy reading all articles and comments. Thanks you all!
Mati said this on October 29, 2008 at 2:08 am | Reply
16. Hi Mati
Well, the truth is like a patchwork quilt.get all the pieces together, and youve got it covered.
Have fun with your reading
blessings
marianne
Marianne said this on October 29, 2008 at 3:05 am | Reply
17. Hi,
Its very important that Christians recognise where Mystery Babylon is because it could cost you your
soul.
God calls His people out of her prior to her judgement. The reason He has to call them because there are
many in there.
Mystery Babylon is ruled over by the king of Babylon, Lucifer. It is a spiritual kingdom but
predominantly represented on the earth today by the USA.
You will know this to be the case in the not too distant future for Gods word shall come to pass. Babylon
is fallen, is fallenin ONE DAY her plagues will come.and she will be burned with fire, for
strong is the Lord God who judges her. Rev 18.
Video of prophetic warning to America by Dimitri Duduman will help you see Mystery Babylon
http://fleethewrath.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/warning-prophecy-the-destruction-of-mystery-babylon/
flee the wrath said this on November 8, 2008 at 4:35 am | Reply
18. Dear Flee the wrath
I will post your link. I see the middle east as having these traits as well. Since Babylon falls twice,
maybe first America falls, and then the middle east one falls second. I want people to see everything that
is possible.
not much time yet, is there?
blessings
marianne
Marianne said this on November 8, 2008 at 11:16 am | Reply
19. [[I would love to chat with you about the mark and what God has taught me.]]
We would love to hear about that too!
Golda said this on November 14, 2008 at 4:11 am | Reply
20.
10 horns
http://lastdaywatchers.blogspot.com/2007_06_11_archive.html
One little horn

http://lastdaywatchers.blogspot.com/2007/07/iran-and-3-horns-no-european-roman.html


21.
Spiritual Babylon:
While Sundar and I were in conversation about something of import regarding international issues,
Vincent received a visit from an Angel. In this visit he was shown the following:
He was told: The now Broken City of Spiritual Babylon will soon be raised up. The government of
this repaired house will be as follows:
Under the head will be 3 groups each containing 13 members.
The first group will be the most powerful group under the head. It will consist of 13 cultic world leaders
such the Dalai Lama.
The second group will also containing 13 leaders will consist of mature seer-prophets from the stage of
Christianity.
The third group will be made up of Priestly order workers, again coming from the sector of Christianity.
Under these three governing groups will be 169 leaders of lesser degree. These will carry out the
instruction of the head.
Leaders who are ordained to be part of the top echelon of the new true Church government will by in
large be approached by the Satanic Kingdom in hopes of gaining their allegiance with the New
Babylonian Empire until their pre-determined government is in its place.
He was further shown something about the warfare that would be sent out against Christian leaders.
The Angel told him that Satan had his top witches praying against Christian Leaders world-wide. Where
did Satan go to find these witches? To Africa! One of Nigerias past leaders, a ruthless dictator sent
word out across the globe inviting the highest people in the occult to bring their sorceries to Nigeria and
to teach them to specified people who worked with him. Prior to this Nigeria had witches, but not the
caliber of today. Nigeria now has the top witches of the world working within its shores.
Satan has three categories of witches working against global ministers.
The first is made up of 13 men, the second consist of 13 women, and the third is comprised of 13
transvestites.
From http://www.etpv.org/2004/tntob.html
22. [[Since Babylon falls twice, maybe first America falls, and then the middle east one falls second.]]
Correct!

23. Hi Golda,
Yes, after hearing so many debates about WHO was Babylon, I finally decided that because Babylon
falls twice, that there are 2 of them. America is spiritual Babylon, and the physical kingdom of the
middle east Antichrist is the other.
I assumed America would get a temporary fix, even if by fraud, which would not last. This gives a little
more time to the saints to witness to unbelievers, but this is also true for the evil element. They will be
winning people to their side too. This past presidential election just tipped the advantage to the
unbelievers. Believers are now a minority.
I think the mark is the mark of Islam. Arabs hole all the oil money, and we need their money to rescue
our economy. Arabs want us to adopt Sharia law to use their money. So the mark would be that no one
can buy or sell unless they comply with sharia law, and acknowledge Allah as god. 666 is a holy number
to muslims.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-number-666-according-to-muslims/
blessings
marianne
24. I dis-agree with everything that was said by Marianne, sorry to say but being of Middle eastern descent
and born and raised in Iraq. For a proven FACT the middle east is bother the spiritual and the physical
Babylon the great. USA has not connection to Babylon, what happened during the Babylonian times was
all in the middle east, read your Bible and you will know exactly what happened, Babylon did fall twice
one by the people and one by God, you got your information twisted, i suggest you check your
information and let me know what you think, what is said in the first section of this is exactly right. I
have great ancestors that have written letters and letters about what had happened in those times, they
cant be wrong.
Naz said this on February 19, 2009 at 5:23 am | Reply
25. Also you mentioned that 666 is a holy number to muslims, 666 is considered to be the Devils number
so holliness is not even close to 666. It is known all over the world;)Read more about babylon cause
what you said in your last email sounded like you had no clue, USA and Babylon dont mix sorry!!
Naz said this on February 19, 2009 at 5:25 am | Reply
26. Hi Naz,
What were the 2 dates when Babylon fell twice? thank you
I got the 666 is holy from a Muslim site. Apparently there is disagreement on this among them.
marianne
Marianne said this on February 19, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Reply
27. I fully agree with Lynn. Daniel 11:16 says that there is an INVADER who will do as he PLEASES, and
will DESTROY the BEAUTIFUL Land.
America the Beautiful ring a bell?
If you look at Rev. 17,18, and 19 you can also see the FALSE demonic religion (cult of MURDER)
Islam- they will rise and HATE HER God will allow this to happen.
America is under a TERRIBLE apostasy, and it isnt for lack of finding a good church, it is called
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY..it denounces ALL of Christian Judaic BLESSINGS from the Torah,
and calls Israel the Church therefore saying Israel is NOT in Gods plan for redemption, it is EVIL and
MANY Christians I know have turned AWAY from Gods LITTLE place named ISRAEL.
The time of the JEW is at hand for redemption, and the WHOLE WORLD is demanding the destruction
of Israel- CHRISTIANS included- THAT is the APOSTASY. I fear for these people. Israel does NOT
own America.
America doesnt even own America anymore- SATAN does.
pookieginsjuggernaut said this on February 22, 2009 at 3:46 pm | Reply
28. Hi Pookie
While what you say about America is true, it has been true of other countries much longer. I would not
deny that America, especially in the last 10 years, has, as a group of people, turned against God.
However, god has preserved a remnant, like he always does.
I think there is a spiritual interpretation of Babylon, and a physical one. This post is focused on the
physical one. America may be the spiritual one, since it is a rich country, although it does not qualify
when you read the commercial description of it.
Most countries can also claim to have beautiful territory, besides American, but Israel is the beautiful
land in scripture.
There are still faithful Christians in America. We do not all believe in Replacement Theology or support
Satan. If we do not get raptured first, we will most likely get killed.
America is a target of Islam, not primarily because we are sinful (which is also true), but because we are
actually willing to fight back against it, and also protect Israel. This courage we should be proud of. That
is the real reason the terrorists hate us.
Terrorists demonize the USA, but their countries are much worse than ours. Also, the countries that are
willing to believe lies of the devil, and lies of the terrorists, are much less righteous than we are.
But this all has to come to pass, because someday Israel will stand alone, and will have to rely on its
relationship with God to overcome its enemies. As long as Israel depends on the USA, it will seek God
less.
This is a lesson for all of us, that we should look to God, not man, for our deliverance.
blessings
marianne
29. What type of products are you dealing with. I can sell your products in Kaakhstan market.
Gaurav Malhotra said this on March 18, 2009 at 11:13 am | Reply
o hello Gaurav
I do not sell anything on this site. This site is dedicated to the Word of God, and all information
is free.
Marianne said this on March 18, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Reply
30. Next week well be tackling the Second Coming in our church. Ill keep this article in mind. Thanks!
gillbates said this on March 20, 2009 at 10:09 am | Reply
31. Babylon is everywhere, in many forms. Note that Nimrod began by building a place for everyone to
gather around him, under his influence. He was a mighty hunter of men before God, which I take to
mean, he hunted men to keep them for himself for his own glory, not Gods glory. We see several later
leaders of Babylon who made that same mistake.
We can see down thru history that all govts sooner or later also have men trying to gather people under
their influence, probably not even knowing they were doing it for their own glory. We can see in our
own USA that same story repeating itself. The USA may have started with good intentions under God,
but in time, we foolishly allowed men to rule us who did not really know God, and look where they have
taken this country now. All our leaders have become modern day Nimrods.
Our Christian churches have not seen how far they have fallen, either. Leaders find themselves in
competition for how many they can bring under their influence. They, like the ones Jesus spoke of on
the cross, know not what they are doing. It may seem right to man, but it is seeking self glory.
We can see variations of this in businesses, marriages, and every other facet of our lives. Like the
Israelites before us, we seek a man king over us, rather than a personal relationship with THE KING.
We may think that at judgment, we can point at the pastor God sent us and blame him, justifying our
evil. Adam tried that after his fall, and it did not make points with God then, nor will it at our
judgment DavWms
David L. Williams said this on April 4, 2009 at 6:24 pm | Reply
o Hi David,
True, while there is a specific location called Babylon, the system of Babylon has spread
worldwide. The first time, one location fell, the next time, the whole world will fall, and the
falling has started.
32. Hi Marrianne, I have some material about the Antichrist I would like to send to you that might shed
some light on your subject of Babylon. If you can contact me by e-mail I can send it to you.
Regards, Hanniki
J. Swart said this on April 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm | Reply
o Hi Hanniki
Just hit the reply button when you get the email. Whatever your view is, I will consider it.
33. Let the scripture interpret scripture: 1)Jesus said that no prophet could die outside Jerusalem.(Luke
13:33): 2) Babylon has fallen because she killed the prophets and saints.(Rev 18:24) 3) where their
Lord was crucified is plain as the nose on your face. (Rev 11:8) The Great City is a city, not a
country (i.e. America) She sits as a Queen (wife of the KING) (Rev 18:7). Studying Jewish history and
scripture helps, but I must give God the glory for any knowledge. May his blood be on our heads We
have no King but Caesar!
Anna said this on June 7, 2009 at 4:51 am | Reply
o Hi Anna,
Thanks for your viewpoint. Your reasons are logical. There are others who think that Jerusalem
is Babylon. Since times are closing in on us, we will have to see what happens next. I guess we
will find out soon.
Marianne said this on June 7, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Reply
34. I read your article, its fine but not professional, cuz there was nothing before 1920 A.D. called Lebanon
except the mountains, and theres nothing called Jordan except the river, there were 6 major territories in
the middle east back then: Syria (from Mousel in currently known as Iraq to Aqaba in the currently
known as Jordan including south parts of currently known as Turkey, Palestine, Sur, Tripoli, and
Lattakia), Assyria (currently known as Iraq and Kuwait), Asia Minor (currently known as Turkey),
Arabia (currently known as KSA, UAE, Oman, Yemen and Qatar), Persia (currently known as Iran) and
Egypt, so please choose your words more carefully, because Israel is an outsider state in the biblical
times and current times, also Turkey and Kurdstan, all these people are not from these area
Georges said this on July 12, 2009 at 9:56 am | Reply
35. Hi Georges,
I recognize what you are saying, because in the last 100 years borders have been redefined in the middle
east. For example, Turkey did not become the official Turkish state until 1922. Before that, it was the
Ottoman Empire.
But I was referring to ancient territories. Some areas have retained the ancient names, such as Syria,
Lebanon, Jordan, and Israel, and others have new names, such as Iraq (Babylon), and Persia (Iran).
Jordan used to be called Moab in the bible.
Since I am always referring to the bible for things, I assume that is understood that I am referring to
ancient names and territories, but maybe I should make that more clear.
Lebanon was called Lebanon in the bible. It is mentioned 64 times by that name. The general location is
the same, although I am sure the borders were different then.
Sorry for the confusion. Thank you for pointing that out.
36. If you believe that we still have a two party political system then you have been truly deceived by the
enemy! Deception is the true art of war! All we see is a communist charade!
Carl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. enter into mens minds and cast
God down from his throne.
No mention of Jesus Christ is allowed in the United Nations.
THE COMMUNIST HAMMER AND SICKLE OF THE WHOLE EARTH The sins of Israel will be
forgiven at the time of Jesus return. This destruction of Babylon foretold in Jeremiah, chapters 50, and
51 is the destruction of end time Babylon , the Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17, and 18. Verses in this
chapter 50 refer to the hammer and sickle of this prophetic Mystery Babylon . The prophet Jeremiah is
talking to prophetic Babylon , in verse 16, of Jeremiah 50 where it says; Jer. 50:16: Cut off the sower
from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: Then verse 23, the prophet still
speaking against Babylon , says; Jer. 50:23: How is the HAMMER of the whole earth cut asunder and
broken! How is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! In Jeremiah 50, which prophecies of
the destruction of end time Babylon, as does Revelation 17, and 18 the two major symbols which
identify end time Babylon are given as the HAMMER AND THE SICKLE. Babylon is here called,
the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH, and her activities are called, in verse 16, the handling of
the SICKLE. In Revelation 17, and 18 Mystery Babylon is said to be clothed in scarlet or red, the beast
upon which she rides, is red, the official color of Communism is red, they call themselves the Reds, and
their Communist flag is a red flag, with a hammer and a sickle upon it. In all the descriptions of Mystery
Babylon, this end time world power, it is the Christians, the Saints of God, who are the victims of this
power, and the ones against who it makes war. In Luke 21:12, Jesus spoke of these last days, and the
anti-Christ Communist warfare, to be waged against Christians. God says of Himself: Deuteronomy
32:40-42 40 I lift my hand to heaven and declare: As surely as I live forever, 41 when I sharpen my
flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay
those who hate me. 42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my sword devours flesh: the
blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders. Deuteronomy 32: 43 Rejoice, O
nations, with his people, [ f ] , [ g ] for he will avenge the blood of his servants; he will take vengeance
on his enemies and make atonement for his land and people. Revelation 18:20-21 20Rejoice over her, O
heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.
21Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and
said: With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.
In ancient Babylon the priest sacrificed babies to thier god baal, in America the communist under their
socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million American babies to their god satan!
Deuteronomy 19:8-10 8 If the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as he promised on oath to your
forefathers, and gives you the whole land he promised them, 9 because you carefully follow all these
laws I command you todayto love the LORD your God and to walk always in his waysthen you are
to set aside three more cities. 10 Do this so that INNOCENT BLOOD WILL NOT BE SHED IN YOUR
LAND, which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty
of bloodshed. Leviticus 26:14-20 14 But if you will not listen to me and carry out all these
commands, 15 and if you reject my decrees and abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands
and so violate my covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting
diseases and fever that will destroy your sight and drain away your life. You will plant seed in vain,
because your enemies will eat it. 17 I will set my face against you so that you will be defeated by your
enemies; THOSE WHO HATE YOU WILL RULE OVER YOU, and you will flee even when no one is
pursuing you. 18 If after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven times
over. 19 I will break down your stubborn pride and make the sky above you like iron and the ground
beneath you like bronze. 20 Your strength will be spent in vain, because your soil will not yield its
crops, nor will the trees of the land yield their fruit.
This is from the 45 Communist goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in
1963. As you read this, 46 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves
out. Communist Goals (1963) Congressional RecordAppendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current
Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral
strength.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States .
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as normal, natural, healthy.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with social religion. Discredit the Bible and
emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a religious crutch.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for
the common man.
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the
ground that it was only a minor part of the big picture. Give more emphasis to Russian history since
the Communists took over.
If you believe that we still have a two party political system then you have been truly deceived by the
enemy! Deception is the true art of war! All we see is a communist sherade!
Out of the six men who led the Bolshevik

Revolution in Russia, five or them were Khazar Jews. Carl Marxs real name was Mordaci, and he
himself descended from a long line of Pharisees. ( NoteKarl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto,
the blueprint for world domination ). No wonder, that Jesus said to the Talmudists, or Pharisees, Ye are
of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father , ye will do, he was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. (John 8:44). Again, I know the blasphemy,
of them that say they are Jews, and are not, but are of The Synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9)
Jesus called the Jewish Pharisees of his time, a generation of vipers. By doing this, he identified this race
of serpents.Jesus warned his disciples, to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees. He told them to beware
of the doctrine of the Pharisees. The doctrine of the Pharisees is the poison of the serpent of the dust.
Jesus spoke to his disciples and warned them of this poison of the Pharisees, he said;
Mt 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should
beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
MT. 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the
doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Carl Marx My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.
The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America acknowledges faith towards a
supreme God who created mankind. The Declaration also acknowledges by all who signed it, the laws of
God, the providence of God, and the judgment of God. The Declaration also appeals to God as the
Supreme Judge of the world for their intentions. Furthermore, for the support of this Declaration, the
signers relied firmly on the protection of Divine Providence.
I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who
produce wealth. Communism is the goal.Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born
in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they
will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened. Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940,
1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
We cant expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their
elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have
communism.Nikita Kruschev, former Soviet Premier/dictator.
It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. George Washington, General,
Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American Revolution (1775-83) and 1st US President
(1789-97), 1732-1799)
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the
slaughter.- George Washington, General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American
Revolution and first President of the United States of America.
Political Correctness a term first seen in Maos Little Red Book, a communist engendered abomination
that is instituting censorship little by little.
It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be
grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors. .- George Washington,
General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American Revolution and first President of
the United States of America.
Babylon, or world Communism, operates today in three parts, is obvious to students of current events,
although many of them know nothing of Bible prophecy. World Communism, or the people who control
World Communism, from behind the scenes, have it divided into three spheres of influence.
World Communism, or the people who control World Communism, from behind the scenes, have it
divided into three spheres of influence. One is the Russian sphere , largely Northern Asia, or Russia or
Eastern Europe, including Poland, Czheckoslovokia, Hungary etc., Moscow is its headquarters. The
second part of Mystery Babylon, is the control of the United States , the Western Hemisphere, England,
and Western Europe, New York is its headquarters. The third part of Mystery Babylon, is the Chinese
sphere of influence , in Eastern Asia, such as India, Southeastern Asia, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.. This
third part, or the Chinese part, also includes what the Communists, and the news media like to call, the
third world, referring to the
non-white peoples in Africa, and Eastern Asia, Peking is its headquarters. The Book of Revelation,
show in the 17th, and 18th chapters, that as the governments of the nations fell, this power would be
executed in three parts. Mystery Babylon, would not seem to be a monolithic world structure, but would
be a three part, world ruling system. That World Communism is a world ruling system, is obvious to
anyone who studies current world history. THE THREE PARTS OF MYSTERY BABYLON ARE
SECRET PARTNERS, AS THEY WORK TOGETHER, TO ROB AND PLUNDER THE PEOPLES
OF THE EARTH As the United States fought on one side of a war in Vietnam, and Russia, and China
fought on the other side, and publicly declare to each other to be enemies, the rulers of America, China,
and Russia, carry on negotiations, trade, exchanges information, and visit each other, just as if they had
no dis-agreement, and in truth, they have none. The rulers of the three parts of Babylon, are in complete
agreement, the dis-agreements are but show, to deceive the people into thinking, that they must be
prepared for war, and even fight in wars against each other, to protect themselves from each other. The
wars, and the preparations for wars, including unbelievable taxation, go into the hands of the rulers, of
each of these three parts of Mystery Babylon, making them rich. That is why our Secretary of State, and
our President, can put their arms around and hug, Mau Tse Tung, and other Communist Rulers of China,
and Gorbachav and all their leaders of Russia, and smile fondly upon each other, and show genuine
friendship, they are friends, they are fellow compatriots, in the plunder, and robbery of all the peoples of
the earth. Their robbery of the people would not work, if the people realized that there was no real
reason for war, and for preparedness for war against other peoples. Americans would not allow
themselves to be taxed, 80 billions of dollars every year for defense, or over two and a half trillions of
dollars since 1950, unless they were convinced, by their statesman, that America must fear Russia, and
China. The same thing goes on in Russia, and China so Mystery Babylons Government is never seen by
the peoples of the world, as one entity, all of the people see it as disagreeing nations, and peoples, who
must be continually be armed for war, and in fact most often fight great battles, and wars around the
world. All of these wars end up, with out destroying any of the power of the ruling anti-Christians, but
actually exalts their power over the nations. The Christian Peoples, are the major suppliers of money,
and blood for these wars. The rulers of the world are not opposed to World Communism, but actually
support it. Our fields, our factories, and our pocketbooks are stripped to build up Russian industry, and
to send food to save the Communist Government of China, and foolish Christians still think, our rulers
are opposed to Communism. In truth, what you see in operation, is the three parts of Mystery Babylon,
the City that is divided into three parts.
MYSTERY BABYLON IS NOW DIVIDED INTO THREE PARTS The earthquake spoken of here, is
the symbolic shaking of the earth, which then divides Mystery Babylon the City That Rules Over
The Kings Of The Earth, into three parts. In other words this world system of exploitation and
wickedness is now divided into three parts. God is shaking Mystery Babylon in order to destroy the
anti-Christian Babylonian System of World Rule. According to these scriptures, this present Mystery
Babylonian world ruling system is to be divided into three parts, prior to her destruction. Mystery
Babylon is now divided into three parts.
Rev. 16:17: And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of
the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18: And there were voices, and thunders, and
lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty
an earthquake, and so great. 19: And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the
nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of
the fierceness of his wrath.
THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD ARE DRUNK WITH THE WINE OF MYSTERY BABYLON In
other words, this verse says that the whole world is drunk, or irrational, with Babylons wine. Babylons
wine in this case, would be Babylons false ideologies, teachings, and propaganda. The people of the
world have been walking as if they were drunk or confused and are walking in darkness. Babylon calls
this wine of darkness, light. And the Kings of the earth, and the religions of the earth, including the
American Churches, have drunk of the wine, of her dark ideologies. Babylon has caused the peoples of
the world, to live and act, as if they were drunk. In Rev. 17:3 it says; Rev. 17:3: So he carried me away
in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of
blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. Verse 9, it says that the seven heads, are seven
mountains, and the ten horns, are ten kings; Rev. 17:9: And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The
seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10: And there are seven kings: five are
fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12: And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but
receive power as kings one hour with the beast. The James Moffatt version of the Bible says of the same
verse 9, that the seven heads are seven mountains, and seven hills. There is a city of great importance, in
the present worlds anti-Christ system, which is built on seven hills. In Colliers Magazine, dated, April
28, 1951, it says from an article titled, This is Moscow today, quote Moscow, showcase of the
USSR, sits on a large plain, on the plains of the Moscow, and Usa rivers, which are frozen about five
months of the year. Out of the plain rise seven low hills, on the highest of which, is the Kremlin, the
walled fortress of Ancient Moscow, and now the guarded citadel, of the Politburo. From the Kremlin,
comes the politburos booming challenge, to the Western World. End of quote. Moscow, capitol of
Communist Russia, and headquarters of the vast propaganda apparatus, which has invaded the Christian
West, is a city built on seven hills. The verse says that the seven hills are on the Scarlet Colored Beast,
upon which Mystery Babylon sits. Moscow has seven hills, Moscows flag is red, or scarlet, and they
even call themselves the Reds. Then in verse four through six it says; Rev. 17:4: And the woman was
arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a
golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5: And upon her forehead
was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND
ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6: And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and
with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. These
verses show that she is very wealthy, and is responsible for all the filthy abominations upon the earth.
She has caused the deaths of so many Christians, that John could only describe her, as being drunken
with their blood. This verse alone, is enough to prove, that this is a great anti-Christ ruling over the earth
now, not after the Christians are supposedly raptured into heaven. Mystery Babylon, could not have
been drunken with the blood of the Saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus, if all she can
persecute, and kill is unbelievers and the heathen, who are the only ones supposedly left on the earth
after the pre-Tribulation Rapture, being taught by the establishment Jewish controlled Christian
Churches. Most Pastors, who preach the pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church, tell you that the entire
Book of Revelations, after chapter six, is completed after this rapture. This is the doctrine of devils, by
devils. Christian America will be delivered, in the Day of Gods Wrath upon Mystery Babylon.
MYSTERY BABYLON WILL BE DESTROYED BY VIOLENCE Verse 21 it says that Mystery
Babylon will be thrown down with violence, it says; Rev. 18:21: And a mighty angel took up a stone
like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be
thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
While Richard Nixon was President, the United States of America was officially divided up into ten
regions, under what is now called Regional Governments. All United States Government Programs,
and all United States Government funds, are distributed not to the fifty states, but to the Ten Regional
Headquarters, and from there they go directly to the cities, and the counties bypassing the fifty State
Governments. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE NOW DIVIDED INTO TEN
REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS (FEMA)
THE TEN HORNS OF THE BEAST It is not the nations of Europe, which have built up the Beast of
World Communism and the New World Order of Mystery Babylon; instead it has been The United
States of America that has built up World Communism and the New World Order. It is from America ,
which has come the food, technology, and money by which Russia has been able to conquer and control
the nations of Asia, and Eastern Europe . The money for the Bolshevik Revolution itself came from New
York bankers. The Kuhn and Leob bank, one of the largest Jewish banks in New York , sent one
shipment of $20,000,000 in gold directly to Lenin, to bribe Czarist officials, and hire murderers, and
assassins for the revolution. Almost all of the money, that financed the Russian Revolution, came from
America . When the Communist murder of several millions of Russian farmers, brought Russia to
famine in the 1920s, it was the American, Herbert Hoover, and it was American food and dollars,
which then saved the Bolshevik Regime from collapse. It was not the Nations of Europe , who gave this
power to the Red Beast; it was the American Federal Government. When the Red Bolsheviks, were
ready to collapse again, in the 1930s, it was Franklin Delanore Roosevelt, who gave formal recognition,
to the criminal government of Red Assassins, and clothed them with American prestige. America
provided the way, for them to receive trade and aid, from other countries. In the 1940s, when the
German Armies had all but overthrown the Bolshevik power in Eastern Europe, it was American
supplies, a flood of guns, ammunition, artillery, planes, bombs, food and supplies, which saved the
Communist Government, for the third time in less than 20 years. THE AMERICAN FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT BETRAYED, AND GAVE ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE TO THE RED BEAST OF
MYSTERY BABYLON AND ITS NEW WORLD ORDER Franklin Delanore Roosevelt, and those
around him, diverted war supplies, from Africa, and Europe, and from the Pacific to send them by way
of ship to Mermance, in the Arctic, to keep the Bolshevik Regime from collapsing and being overthrown
by its own people. The war in the Pacific was almost lost to the Japanese, because of this stripping of
supplies, from the Pacific Theater of war. Near the end of World War Two, it was America under
Roosevelt, then Truman, and General Eisenhower who held back the American, and British Troops, and
forced the Germans to surrender, all of Eastern Europe, and Eastern Germany, to the Reds. At the end of
World War Two, it was General Eisenhower, and the American Army, which rounded up over
1,000,000 refugees, and escapees from Eastern Europe, and from Russia, and forcibly turned them over
to the Bolshevik Red Armies, for deportation to Russia. This betrayal was so brutal, that American
Army Officers nicknamed it Operation Keelhaul. keelhaul (klhl) tr.v.
keelhauled, keelhauling, keelhauls. 1. Nautical. To discipline by dragging under the keel of a ship. 2.
To rebuke harshly. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT THIS
BETRAYAL OF THE EUROPEAN REFUGEES OF THE WORLD WHO WERE TURNED OVER
TO THE RED BOLSHEVIK BEAST OF MYSTERY BABYLON BY THE AMERICAN FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT Reporters who later wrote stories about Operation Keelhaul, estimated that almost
every anti-Communist refugee in Western Europe was rounded up by Eisenhower, and the American
Army and turned over to the Bolshevik Reds. High officials in other European Governments protested
this American brutality but Eisenhower was Supreme Commander of all Allied Armies therefore his
orders were carried out. The Communist controlled American Press did not report this genocide, and the
American People did not learn of Operation Keelhaul until almost 20 years after the war. Within 90
days, the Chinese Nationalists were running out of American ammunition. They then evacuated to
Formosa , and because of no ammunition to defend themselves Mainland China fell to the Red-Jewish-
Beast of Bolshevism, courtesy of the United States Government. And this all takes place, while the
American People actually oppose, and hate Communism and the New World Order. And the angel says,
of those ten Federal Governments of America . Remember this is after the supernatural Lamb and his
chosen ones take back their government from the secret hidden behind the scenes rulers who have stolen
it. It says in Rev. 17:16; Rev. 17:16: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall
hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17:
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall be fulfilled. AS RED BABYLON FALLS SHE WILL BE SEEN BY THE
WORLD FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS It is God Almighty Himself, who has allowed this aid, and
help to flow from America , to Red Russia, and Red China, that Gods Word might be fulfilled. It does
show that it is God who is in command. Scriptures in the 18th chapter, of Revelation, describes the fall
of Babylon , which will take place over a very short period of time. It is only as Babylon falls, or is
destroyed, that the people of the earth will see her for what she really is. While Babylon was in full
power, and still existed, most people did not even suspect her existence, to say nothing of how she
secretly rules the world, including America . But now Babylon is falling. She is being exposed, and
made naked for all to see how she secretly operates. THE RICH AND POWERFUL
INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL WEEP AND WAIL WHEN
MYSTERY BABYLON FALLS Babylon is that thing which has made many men rich. Many men have
become billionaires, by operating under Babylon s rules. People wonder why the rich men of the world
do not use their wealth to fight Communism and the New World Order. The truth is that many of the
rich men of the world have made their wealth by helping Communism and the New World Order.
Communism and the New World Order, are not all there is to Mystery Babylon, massive world trade
and the international corporations are part of Mystery Babylon. MASSIVE WORLD TRADE IS PART
OF MYSTERY BABYLON , MAKING THE INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS OF THE
WORLD RICH The international corporations of the earth, are made, or waxed rich through the
abundance of her delicacies. The several thousand men, who own and operate 100 of the largest banks,
in New York City alone have lent over 20 billion dollars to Moscow in the last few years, drawing
upwards of 2 billion dollars in interest each year, off the backs of the Soviet Workers. The Rockefeller
Brothers, have opened a Chase Manhattan Branch, at number one, Carl Marx Square , across from the
Kremlin. They lend money, directly to the Soviet Rulers, and the Soviet Citizens, collecting usury under
the protection of the Red Army. In every country taken over by the Red-Jewish-Communists, they first
occupied the territory, then sold oil and mineral rights to American international corporations, and
European oil companies, such as Exxon. In the Congo , Shell Oil rigs are guarded by Negroes armed
with Soviet weapons. From the article The Idiots Guide to China gate, Richard Poe States When Bill
Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United States . Chinese missiles couldnt
hit the side of a barn, notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America
and those that made it would likely miss their targets. Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city
in the USA , using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance
systems and multiple warheads. China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike
by proxy equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work while the Chinese play innocent.
Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and
nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies. We like your president. We want to see him
re-elected, former Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told China gate bagman Johnny Chung.
Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election
Clinton s way. Clintons top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in
1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China . Clinton recieved funding
directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady,
who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun
and others. Needless to say, China does not share Clinton s enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity.
The Chinese look out for No. 1. War [with the United States ] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it, said
Chinese Defense Minister Gen. Chi Haotian in 2000. The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must
control the initiative in this war. By Richard Poe.
The ACLU is in a dangerous and risky undertaking, for they are vastly outnumbered. If average
Americans understood their true agenda, there would be an uprising of revolutionary proportions.
Therefore, secrecy of their true agenda is critical.
Woe unto you, lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in you hindered. (Luke 11:52)
Capitalism and Communism, and the New World Order are not at war with each other, Capitalism, and
Communism and the New World Order are partners, in the war of the conquest of the peoples of the
world. Capitalism and the International Corporations provide Communism and the New World Order,
with the money, tools and weapons of conquest. Then when the people are reduced to slave status, they
are put to work by these international corporations, to produce goods, which are then shipped, and
traded by the Capitalists in the world markets. It is an arrangement, of total cooperation, but it is always
accompanied by words of anger, and accusations by both sides, against each other. The purpose of those
words, are to confuse the peoples of the world, and keep them from realizing, that Communism, the
New World Order, the international corporations, and Capitalism are all partners, not enemies in the
conquest of the peoples of the earth. MYSTERY BABYLON WILL BE DESTROYED BY VIOLENCE
Verse 21 it says that Mystery Babylon will be thrown down with violence, it says; Rev. 18:21: And a
mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence
shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
The criminal politicians will not save America! Many of them are actually the enemy! Only God and the
soldier who places his trust in God will save America!
Rev 17:16: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall
make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. In America there has been
unusual events happening that people find hard to explain, and understand. These unusual events are the
formation of what are called militia groups and other patriotic Christian organizations. All of these
patriotic militia groups and other Christian organizations are made up completely of the white Anglo-
Saxon peoples who call themselves Christians. The hidden rulers of Mystery Babylon call these white
Anglo-Saxon Christian organizations hate groups. The hidden behind the scenes rulers of the ten
regions of the United States Federal Government have called the white Christian Anglo-Saxon race a
hate group and has secretly declared war against these white Anglo-Saxon Christian people.
THE SAINTS OF GOD AND THE LAMB WILL DESTROY THE NEW WORLD ORDER Many
prophecies of the Bible say that Gods people will destroy this end time Beast and its New World Order.
So if the ten horns destroy the beast then it stands to reason that these ten horns represent Gods
Kingdom. The angel told John that God has put it into the hearts of the rulers of the TEN HORNS to
agree to give the Kingdom (of the Saints) to the beast until the words of God will be fulfilled. So
therefore the TEN HORNS HAVE TO BE GODS KINGDOM because God has given the Kingdom to
the ten horns to fulfill his will. Learned Bible students know that America is the Zion of Bible prophecy
and is part of Christendom. The word Christendom literally means THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST.
The United States of America is one of the NATIONS OF CHRISTENDOM. Notice in the following
verses concerning the Kingdom of the ten horns: Rev. 17:17: For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill
his will, and to agree, and give their (the Saints) kingdom (the ten horns) unto the beast, until the words
of God shall be fulfilled.
Armageddon also means the valley of slaughter. It comes from a Hebrew word pronounced, HAR-
MEGA-DON. In the James Moffatt version of the Bible, this word Harmeggadon is used, in place of
Armageddon. Harmeggadon means at the place of the regathered from the nations.
America is the place that makes up that nation. This nation consists of the regathered white-Anglo-
Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples. God brought these Christian Anglo-Saxons here
from the nations, where they were put away and punished. They were brought here to Harmeggadon
or the place of the regathering. America is the Harmeggadon of Bible Prophecy.
The armies now gathering under the United Nations of Red-Babylon, are coming to America in the near
future. God is bringing these nations here. These armies will fight against God, and his Christ. When
these kings, and their armies of the earth are gathered, they will encompass us, they will surround us.
Then Jesus asked them, When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?
Nothing, they answered. 36 He said to them, But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and
if you dont have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: And he was numbered with the
transgressors [ b ] ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is
reaching its fulfillment. 38 The disciples said, See, Lord, here are two swords. That is enough, he
replied. Matthew 10:32-42 32 Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him
before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my
Father in heaven. 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to
bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her
mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law 36 a mans enemies will be the members of his
own household. [ e ] 37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me;
anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and anyone who does not
take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever
loses his life for my sake will find it. 40 He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me
receives the one who sent me. 41 Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a
prophets reward, and anyone who receives a righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a
righteous mans reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones
because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward.
simon said this on July 14, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Reply
37. My advice is that you are very wrong. In Bible prophecy it is clear that a nation that very much
resembles ours (The US/Americas) is the victim off a nuclear holocaust. My findings point out key
things, one we are a nation of many nationalities, two the European, African, and Asian territories are
still in existence after the destruction of this particular nation, of which all these trade with that nation by
sea. Also our crooked meddling into Israeli affairs, and the immorality of our nation has great influence
onto the nations of others. I just warn you, if you can flea, flea now.
I think you made an error by not noticing in revelations that the destruction of Babylon comes before the
rise of the anti-Christ of which may possibly be an ex-Babylonian refugee, but anyhow he does his
damage from European territorys, therefore Europe is still in existence after the destruction of Babylon.
Also Egypt is a factor, and Greater Arab countries and Russia and China are in the picture still the
only nation that is out of the picture is the Americas.
wordimplanted said this on July 26, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Reply
38. .Also note in scripture you are not looking for Babylon and you may be right in that but your not
paying close attention to scripture. NOTE: you are looking for THE DAUGHTER OF BABYLON of
which the Lord Yah pours out His wrath. Yes Babylon is still Babylon but Book of Revelations which
was written way after the previous destruction of Babylon was then at that time Roman territory and no
longer Babylonian. So why would John write of the future end times and refer to a nation destruction
that had already taken place much time before in the past? your conclusion is in error.
wordimplanted said this on July 26, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Reply
o hi wordimplanted
thanks for the disagreement. I will consider what you say.
Marianne said this on July 27, 2009 at 12:43 am | Reply
39. its a STORY.

Andy said this on September 17, 2009 at 11:17 pm | Reply
40. Daniel had a dream about the 4 beast chapter 7 verse 17.
1.Daniel 7:3&4 Gold 1st beast- Bbylon
2.Daniel 7:5 Silver 2nd beast Persian Empire
3.Daniel 7:6 Bronze-3rd Beast Greece alexander the great
4.Daniel 7:7 Iron w/clay)- 4th beast- Rome This is the final beast before christ- Rome is present day
BABYLON
Empires above are the 4 great powers throughout history. Rome has more power than we realize. It has
its own military, banks, politians its is a city of its own and controls government.
Peter said this on October 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Reply
o true dat brotha! rome is the real babylon. way to show that dumbass
mathew said this on April 30, 2012 at 1:28 am | Reply
41. What we do know is that Babylon is supposed to be an all-powerful end time nation.
For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans (New Babylon),
THAT BITTER AND HASTY NATION,
which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces
that are not theirs
(Habakkuk 1:6)
Habakkuk refers to it as a nation. The US currently occupies old Babylon.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of
the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich
through the abundance of her delicacies.
The kings of the earth are to do business with babylon. The US dollar is the world reserve currency,
three-fourths of all currency transactions in the world are in dollars. A country like Saudi Arabia which
does absolutely no business with the catholic church still trades in dollars and sells oil in dollars. Even
North Korea has to buy oil and other commodities in dollars. Every nation on earth currently has to buy
oil in dollars. Now iran currently sells oil in euros on the futures market, however iran does not sell bulk
crude on the spot market, they only deliver crude-derived processed products. Oil and other
commodities are still priced in dollars. WTI, Brent, Argus are all either British or American
benchmarks. Dubai crude is cleared by british and american firms. So even iran has to sell oil priced in
dollars.
So either way even if babylon is not america, the future for america doesnt look bright as it will have to
stop being a major power first. Which means the US military/economy also has to decline in power
dramatically in the future.
Ron said this on November 11, 2009 at 7:52 pm | Reply
o hi Ron,
There are 31 million muslims in Iraq vs 124,000 coalition troops. This means the main
occupiers in Iraq are muslims, not americans.
The Saudis control the worlds oil, and therefore the worlds politics, and economy. The kings of
the earth do business with them. The currency used is not just dollars, but other currencies as
well.
The US will eventually decline, but so will other countries as well.
Look at the list of merchandise that the revived Babylon sells.. Much of this is only found in
Africa or the middle east. Bablyon is also known for its slave trade, and only muslims operate
slaves now.
Marianne said this on November 11, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Reply
42. Saudis dont control anything. The gulf arab nations were british protectorates until 1971, where the US
then informally took over. The US intervened when saddam invaded kuwait. The British were greatly
outnumbered by indians yet they also used indian troops as pazzis to occupy india.
You dont know what you are talking about, all deliverable raw crude is sold and settled in dollars. If oil
were no longer sold in dollars and the us dollar stopped being the reserve currency it would collapse.
The US multinationals basically use slave labor in latin america and asia.
Almost all of the merchandise, and raw materials for merchandise, whether it is gold, silver, aluminum,
etc is settled in dollars. Even iran, when it buys goods from china, in turn china buys raw materials
priced in US dollars the worlds reserve currency.
ron said this on November 12, 2009 at 3:41 am | Reply
o Ron
My reference to the Babylonian economy comes from scripture. Scripture does not mention the
currency used, only the merchandise. Please see the economic aspect quoted:
Rev 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and
fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine [citron] wood, and all manner
vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron,
and marble,
Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and
oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves,
and souls of men.
America fails the test for the export of this merchandise.

Marianne,
This looks like a good placement for David Wilkersons message.
David explains your export test and attempts to speak the Word as clearly as a man of
God can.
His message is a spiritual message regarding Babylon. Something that gets lost in all
the literal interpretations and physical geography commentary.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/david-wilkerson-1973-vision/
[audio
src="http://ia600609.us.archive.org/11/items/SERMONINDEX_SID4414/SID4414.mp3"
/]
Blessings
DJ said this on September 26, 2014 at 12:17 am | Reply
43. The US is the largest holder of precious metals including gold, silver platinum, etc.
The US is a massive exporter of wood and other natural resources. In fact China has to import raw steel
and other metals are bulk imported from the US.
The US is massive exporter of agriculture including live stock. The US has the largest amount of horses
and sheep in the world. Other products including wine and ointments are also manufactured in the US.
The US is the worldss largest manfuacturer, much of that manufacuring comes from the military
industrial complex however it is manfaucturing still. Wheat is a major export, the US is the second
largest exporter of natural gas and exports refined crude as well. The US has many working on slave
labor in asia and latin america.
One thing is for sure the definition above does not fit that of iraq. Where is iraqs gold? Where is iraqs
silver? The US has the largest quantity of those products stored in the world.
which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces
that are not theirs
DNA testing has proved that most iraqis today are the same as the ancient babylonians. The same goes
for italy.
The Americans 500 years ago were native americans, after they died off the nation became inhabited by
the (primarily european) Americans that we know today.
Who were the native babylonians? They are biologically the same people now as they were then.
Who were the native romans? They are biologically the same people now as they were then.
Who were the native Americans? There we go.
jeremy said this on November 12, 2009 at 10:34 pm | Reply
44. I am afraid that everyone here is looking for Babylon in all the wrong places. The Babylon in revelation
is not the city referred to so often in the old testament. It is a reference to the old Babylon Mystery
religion a system of false worship that has infested all the religions of the various conquerors of
Babylon and its succeeding empires. These pagan practices made their way into Roman religion and
were blended with Christianity when the roman empire accepted it as its official religion. There are
currently over 50 pagan practices still pervasive in the modern catholic church the descendant of the
original Roman Christian church.
The Whore of Babylon is this church and it is the church system which will be destroyed when Christ
returns. All of the paganism (Babylon) will be stripped out.
We know it is a Christian church because in Rev 18:4: Come out of her My people.
God wants his people to leave the apostate church before the mark of the beast begins and before its
ultimate destruction.
The great wealth described refers to the immense riches of the church far wealthier than any country in
the world no debt and getting richer every day. And look at the items listed arrayed in purple and
scarlet (bishops and cardinals), gold and precious stones and pearls and a golden cup I saw all those
things in church every Sunday when I was a catholic.
Think of all the merchants she used to make the artifacts, build the cathedrals and administer to the
Vatican empire one that sits on many waters. They are a world-wide organization, greater even than
the British empire.
And the Vatican sits on 7-hills the City known worldwide for sitting on 7 hills, even in Johns time.
Go with the obvious, God is not trying to trick us.
As for the wounded beast the explanation is simple, if you understand the complete line of beasts
(kings/kingdoms from Daniel thru revelation. Here they are:
Daniel:
1. Babylon
2. Medo-Persia
3. Greece.
4. Rome
Revelation:
5. Holy Roman empire
(First beast from the water) Lasted 1260 years, Persecuted its saints. Received a fatal wound under
Napoleon in 1798 killed the last pope of the empire.
6. The Vatican (What remained after the empire was broken up)
Has two horns like Christ but speaks like the devil a false church.
Restored to nation status by Mussolini in 1929 (Wound was healed)
The Antichrist is the head of this kingdom the number of the Pope = 666 (Vicarvs Filii Dei)
7. The restored roman empire (European Union still in progress)
8. The restored Holy Roman Empire (EU + Vatican soon to come, yet of the 7th.)
Note how simply and perfectly the scripture fits into this interpretation. Everything fits, no need to toss
out verses that dont fit properly. No need to jump around the planet looking for possible candidates. All
the kingdoms come from the previous in a smooth continuous line. You dont tell the story of America
by jumping to Antarctica right in the middle without making it clear why.
Now here is my challenge to you. Try to find the glaring error in my interpretation the scripture thats
blows the whole thing out of the water. The part that is so far-out or so confusing that it would be a real
stretch to believe it.
Otherwise give it the consideration it deserves.
Thanks for listening.
James Giordano said this on November 17, 2009 at 5:30 am | Reply
o Did you just not see this verse?
which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwelling places
that are not theirs
Babylon is a nation inhabitated by foreigners.
George Christopher said this on November 17, 2009 at 12:46 pm | Reply
Hi George,
So, do you think Babylon is the raising up (reviving) of the Chaldeans, or some other
group who acts in a similar fashion?
Babylon seeks to inhabit other nations, according to the scripture you just mentioned, not
to be inhabited itself by foreigners.
So, who do you think Babylon is today? The same one ( ie same area) or another
location?
o hi James,
just a note and thought.
Rome yes was around when the bible was written, but the Roman Catholic church was not. It
showed up about 300 years later.
So there might be a distinction between the nation/empire and the church that happens to have it
headquarters there. To combine them might be like making the Crystal Cathedral in California
represent the USA.

The crystal cathedral does not own land now does it?
Abigail said this on November 17, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Reply
Hi Abigail
The Crystal Cathedral owns its property at:
12141 Lewis St
Garden Grove, CA 92840-4699
It sits on 21 acres:
http://www.weddingcompass.com/LocationDetails.cfm?ID=498
Vatican city sits on 110 acres:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
there is a difference in size of property, but they both own the land.
But remember, John was looking at the future all the way to the present and beyond so
he could see the catholic church. The City of Seven hills applies just as much today as it
did in his time so he knew the reference would hold up.
James Giordano said this on November 17, 2009 at 9:13 pm | Reply
james
Isnt vatican city considered a separate country within Italy, and within the city of
Rome?
So isnt it actually Rome, not Vatican city, that john refers to?
Well I think were dealing with semantics here mostly. John never uses
future words in his descriptions, only ones he knows so you couldnt
expect to see the word Vatican used, so the closest one has got to be
Rome. After all if you say The church of Rome today we all recognize it
as the Roman Catholic Church. The church still uses it to refer to itself on
many occasions. And besides, I really dont thing he was referring to a
city or its people or government. It must be a reference to the church that
resides there like the 7 churches mentioned in chapters 1-3. Dont you
think?
James Giordano said this on November 17, 2009 at 9:53 pm | Reply

James,
The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are also
seven kings. Five have fallen, one is and one has not yet come.
Here is a glaring error you asked us to find.
The seven heads are, according to you,

1) Babylon
2) Medo Persia
3) Greece
4) Rome
5) Holy Roman Empire
6) Vatican
7) European Union 8) Revived Holy Roman Empire
These are the seven heads, mountains, kings upon which the woman sits.
And according to you, Babylon, the woman, is the Holy Roman Empire + Vatican
+ EU.
If the woman is sitting on the Beast with seven heads, and four of those heads are
the woman, then that means the woman is sitting upon itself ( or at least four of
her heads ).
Todd Ott said this on January 21, 2013 at 12:19 am | Reply
hafunny
Marianne said this on January 21, 2013 at 12:37 am | Reply
Mystery babylon the great is mysterious, according to the Book of

Revelation. First, one must take care to distinguish between the first beast
of the land, and the second beast of the sea, and also the whore that rides
the seven headed beast.
One possibility is that the 7 heads are referring to sovereign Caesars.
Consider the papal claim of authority as Pontifex Maximus, which

originated as a chief priest title claimed by the Roman Caesar. Heres a
classic quote from one pope, a guy who called himself Boniface, I am
CaesarI am Emperor. Wishful thinking for himself, but maybe not so
for a Caesar-to-come who actually does dominate Jerusalem. How many
of these Caesars with leavened-titles have actually ruled over Jerusalem
before it imploded in civil war after Yahshua was crucified by the Romans
and Jewish authorities? Some research tells us only 6 Caesars, and so the
7th would be yet to come
Another infamous title for Caesar (beginning around 501BC) was

Magister Populi or master of the people.
To understand where the Catholic Church fits in, it helps to know the
difference between Rome (a city in Italy), the Holy See (an organization
claiming apostolic succession from Simon), and the Vatican (a city state of
the modern era).
Looking at its rituals over the years (i.e., idol worship, holy wars), the
Catholic Church appears to be a continuation of the Babylonian
priesthood, and if I had access to the most ancient religious archives
(most of which are apparently kept secret at the Vatican incidentally), I
suppose I would not be surprised to find some ancient legal documents
showing that the City of Rome is actually an extension of the City of
Babylon. We could possibly say the same for ancient Jerusalem though
consider examples such as the Babylonian king Cyrus issuing an official
decree permitting the Jews to return to Jerusalem to rebuild their temple.
Did that decree of Babylonian sovereignty create a Babylonian temple in
Jerusalem?
And modern Jerusalem too is traceable to Rome and Babylon, through

Britain the evidence suggests that modern day Israel emerged out of
Britain when the British military won Israel around 1917, and then
turned it over to Jewish authorities in 1948. And how is Britain just
another piece/head of Rome? For starters, the City of London (established
in approximately 55 B.C.) was one of the ancient Roman provinces. Even
after the Treaty of Verona approximately 1,260 years later (in 1213), we
can read in the Magna Carta at section 13, And the city of London shall
have all its ancient liberties and free customs, by land as well as by water.
Thats a sovereign reservation for the Roman city of London, dont you
think?
To draw a conclusion of probability (that Rome is the best candidate), we

can examine the evidence that the City of Rome is far more pervasive both
historically and today than what is acknowledged in conventional media
and history books, as for example where certain Jesuit Hierarchies operate
militarily to institute and overthrow governments, and economically to
manage enough assets (primarily through holding companies) to virtually
direct worldwide commerce and industry across generations, and
religiously as Catholic Church dogma is so pervasive that many religious
people today (especially Protestants) dont even realize they are virtual
embodiments of Catholic dogma, which itself is rife with Babylonian
ritual cross-over. On some level its difficult to make the same claims for
Jerusalem, although it can be done if we focus on the evidence that the
real fountainhead of Catholicism is the occult-seeking Jewish priest.
In the big picture, there appears to be an innumerable amount of unholy

alliances and conflicts between the international bankers, the aristocratic
Zionists, the Catholic hierarchy, the English crown, and all manner of
secret societies within these groups, not to mention oppressive military
regimes all over the world. All these roads lead to destruction and
accusation. And each of these groups produces disinformation agents
willing to point the finger at each other where convenient. The resulting
confusion and chaos never settles in any generation, because the complex
powers that create chaos also profit from chaos. Disorder, riots, and armed
revolution all lead to false solutions more war, more oppressive laws,
and more resource domination by the wealthy. And sadly, this whole
research subject of organized crime often gets thrown into the conspiracy
theory bin.
One unique thing about Rome is that it shows a modus operandi of

imposing its law atop the conquered society in some manner, almost like a
virus (think corporatism) on a host. Rome attached itself to Jerusalem
when it presided over the crucifixion of Yahshua before usurping
Yahshuas message and proclaiming the Holy See the spiritual leader of
the world, and other blasphemies.
Incidentally, Marianne, do we read in the Book of Revelation that the

wood and scarlet etc are exports of one of the beasts (who have the
heads)? I dont think so; rather, just that they are found in the whore.
Greg said this on April 28, 2013 at 2:48 am | Reply
45. The Bible interprets the Bible. When you have come to a conclusion that excludes a truth, then question
that conclusion. Nothing is written in stone and God will open our minds to the truth if we are pliable. I
offer this information, not as a final resolution, but as part of our progressive debate.
International Standard Version (2008)

But I must be on my way today, tomorrow, and the next day, because its not possible for a prophet to
be killed outside of Jerusalem.
See how many references to killed the prophets you can find in reference to Babylon the Great and the
Great City.
Here is an excellent study of the similarities of the old city of Babylon and Jerusalem:
http://asbereansdid.blogspot.com/2009/10/babylon-great.html
Anna said this on November 17, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Reply
46. Luke 13:33

International Standard Version (2008)
But I must be on my way today, tomorrow, and the next day, because its not possible for a prophet to
be killed outside of Jerusalem.
Anna said this on November 17, 2009 at 3:46 pm | Reply
47. I read many of your responses.
I used to think it was America, but while it aligns nicely into the power structure of a one world
government, it fails in most of the other categories.
The more I consider it, the more obvious it becomes. America currently has the largest population of
Christians. Born again or not. To even consider America is in fact Babylon, you are denying the most
basic thing.
God Loves His Children. Plain and simple.
Although America may very well step foot into this New World Order, I dont think Babylon as its
called is literally america. It would make sense to be Muslim Inspired. The beheadings, hate, violence
etc
It all makes perfect sense and beyond that its visual clear as day. I think many of us see America starting
to fall and we ourselves are critical of it and of the sins here, but as stated in the article, Sin is in every
nation, but the salvation of Jesus Christ has been spread to the ends of the earth by You guessed it..
America.
I dont think Babylon is America, but is and was and will be Babylon. Same region as it always was.
With the same spirit of Hate and the same Spirit of Oppression. Will america/1 world government be
twisted with thatPossibly, but is america the literal Babylon? no.
john said this on November 19, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Reply
o The American made christianity have can be identified by their fruits.
When Mother theresa is busy with the caring of the lepers the christians of america were
busy separating the hindu families. By promising the lowest cast, freedom from hindu society if
they convert to Christianity.
He who is not against us is with us maybe this missed to read this in their bible
homo2fistulam said this on May 28, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Reply
thanks.
I posted that video on my martyrdom page
It was too hard for me to watch, but I did anyhow.
I really hurt to watch the persecution. I cried.
Marianne said this on May 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Reply
48. John,
Glad to see you came to your senses about America being Babylon. I thought the same thing when I first
read revelation. It was scary to think God would destroy our country especially since we are probably
the most Christian country on earth, still. But then I realized that the woman called the whore of
Babylon was an apostate, paganized church still containing elements of the ancient Babylon Mystery
religion began by Nimrod and hated by God throughout the old testament. The term Babylon used after
that still refers to the church or more specifically the Babylonian paganism within the church. That is
what will be destroyed when Christ returns and restores the church to its pre-roman state. The statues
and idols and stained glass images will be stripped out. No more priests, confession, communion, etc.
No more popes, cardinal or bishops. The sabbath will go back to Saturday where it belongs. Once that is
done, Babylon is fallen.
God does not want to destroy any nation, or even a city and he is not concerned yet with false religions.
He has a plan for them in the millennium but he wont simply wipe them out for not believing in him.
He is concerned about his church though. If they are doing blasphemous things he would naturally be
angry and want to correct them and that he will do before he takes his earthly throne. Most people
believe that their church is perfect and nothing about it will change when Christ returns so they look for
a real Babylon rather than a spiritual one. They all need to stop looking around the globe for a victim
and start looking inward.
James Giordano said this on December 6, 2009 at 6:15 am | Reply
49. Listen! Babylon is twice rebuilt. Ask yourself who is responsible for the creation of the present tower of
Babel that connects you to my words even now. A connection God Himself seperated when he
destroyed the first tower. But the oceans no longer divide us. lOOK WHERE THE WEB BEGAN AND
YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOUR HANDS ARE FILTHY AS ARE MINEBut Babaylon exists
beyond cybercommunication it will manifest itself physically also, in order what is written will be done.
The geographical place built on the ruins carried by the waters to their resting place beneath the new city
of Babylon. A city that rose up out of the desert possessing unsurpassed wealth. A city of oppulence and
excess in which the worlds richest seek shelter from the ugliness and desolation that theyve created on
the earth. HEAR NOW AND KNOW DUBAI WILL NOT BE SPARED ON THAT DAY.
amy said this on January 18, 2010 at 6:17 am | Reply
50. The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom and
before I leave office I must inform the Citizen of his plight. PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY(10
days before he was murdered)
On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order

11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve
Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at
interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the
privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The
Christian Common Law Institute has exhaustively researched this matter
through the Federal Register and Library of Congress and can now safely
conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or
superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still
valid.
When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy the author of Profiles in
Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government,
specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and
issue currency -money without going through the privately owned Federal
Reserve Bank.
President Kennedys Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority:
to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or
standard silver dollars in the Treasury.
This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasurys vault, the
government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver
bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United
States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10
and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by
the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious
that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the
purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the United
States of America. United States Notes were issued as an interest-free and
debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury.
President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United
States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation.
strength.
the common man.
My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism. Carl Marx
On January 22nd 1973 The high jacked U.S Supreme Court legalized unrestricted abortions since that
time over 50 million babies have been murdered, How can this be a Christian Nation, how can you
follow the commands of God Almighty and allow this to continue? It is difficult for many people to
accept the truth that several of our nations top leaders have been members of the occultic Bohemian
Grove. George W. Bush is also a member of this occult organization. Since 1873, the Global Elite Has
Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called
Bohemian Club Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family
Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male Club
Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone
Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the Great Owl of Bohemia.
In ancient Babylon the priest sacrificed babies to their god baal, in America the communist under their
Obama wants to support abortion with taxpayer money.
THOSE WHO HATE YOU WILL RULE OVER YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. Barack Hussein
Obama Audacity of Hope
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and
main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is
theirs in the Hereafter (Quran 5:33).
Allahs Apostle said: I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that
none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allahs Apostle, and offer the
prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform at that, then they save their lives and
property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah
(Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).
War is deceit (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 268).
Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57).
Or how about Mohammeds raping of his nine-year-old wife and justifying it by saying Allah
ordained it:
My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down.
My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door
she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our
house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet
consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old (Tabari 9:131).
Allahs Apostle told Aisha [his six-year-old bride and nine-year-old sexual partner], You were
shown to me twice in my dreams. I beheld a man or angel carrying you in a silken cloth. He said to me,
She is yours, so uncover her. And behold, it was you. I would then say to myself, If this is from
Allah, then it must happen (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 139-140).
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United States . Chinese missiles
couldnt hit the side of a barn, notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North
America and those that made it would likely miss their targets. Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now
hit any city in the USA , using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized
guidance systems and multiple warheads. China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable
China to strike by proxy equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work while the Chinese
play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical,
biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies. We like your president. We
want to see him re-elected, former Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told China gate bagman
Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the
1996 election Clinton s way. Clintons top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top
donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China . Clinton recieved
funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar
Riady, who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang
Jun and others. Needless to say, China does not share Clinton s enthusiasm for globalism or
multipolarity. The Chinese look out for No. 1. War [with the United States ] is inevitable; we cannot
avoid it, said Chinese Defense Minister Gen. Chi Haotian in 2000. The issue is that the Chinese armed
forces must control the initiative in this war. By Richard Poe.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
Abraham Lincoln.
slaughter.- George Washington , General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American
Revolution and first President of the United States of America. Political Correctness a term first seen in
Maos Little Red Book, a communist engendered abomination that is instituting censorship little by
little.
1 Thessalonians 5:3 (King James Version)
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a
woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Luke 22:35-36
if you dont have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
Luke 22:36 (New King James Version)

Then He said to them, But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and
he who has no SWORD, let him sell his GARMENT and buy one.
Revelation 16:15 Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his
GARMENTS, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.
Luke 22:36
WATCH AND KEEP YOUR SWORD!!!!!!!!!
Matthew 10:34 Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a
sword.
ALL NATIONS SURROUNDED ME, BUT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD I WILL DESTROY
THEM. Psalm 118:10
Jeremiah 50:14-16 14Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow,
shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the LORD.
15Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are
thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto
her.
16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: for fear of
the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own
land.
Jeremiah 50:22-46 22A sound of battle is in the land, and of great destruction.
23How is the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN! how is
Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
24I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art
found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the LORD.
25The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this is
the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
26Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as heaps, and destroy her
utterly: let nothing of her be left.
27Slay all her bullocks; let them go down to the slaughter: woe unto them! for their day is come, the
time of their visitation.
28The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of
the LORD our God, the vengeance of his temple.
29Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let
none thereof escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that she hath done, do unto
her: for she hath been proud against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.
30Therefore shall her young men fall in the streets, and all her men of war shall be cut off in that day,
saith the LORD.
31Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, saith the Lord GOD of hosts: for thy day is come, the
time that I will visit thee.
32And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his
cities, and it shall devour all round about him.
33Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed
together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.
34Their Redeemer is strong; the LORD of hosts is his name: he shall throughly plead their cause, that he
may give rest to the land, and disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon.
35A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her
princes, and upon her wise men.
36A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be
dismayed.
37A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the
midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.
38A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they
are mad upon their idols.
39Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the
owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from
generation to generation.
40As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall
no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.
41Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up
from the coasts of the earth.
42They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy: their voice shall roar
like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee,
O daughter of Babylon.
43The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of
him, and pangs as of a woman in travail.
44Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan unto the habitation of the strong: but
I will make them suddenly run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her?
for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before
me?
45Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that
he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out:
surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
46At the noise of the taking of Babylon the earth is moved, and the cry is heard among the nations.

Jeremiah 48:10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth
back his sword from blood.
Jeremiah 51:20 You are My battle-ax and weapons of war:
For with you I will break the nation in pieces;
With you I will destroy kingdoms;
Jeremiah 50:14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around,
All you who bend the bow;
Shoot at her, spare no arrows,
For she has sinned against the LORD.
Jeremiah 50:16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of
harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every
one to his own land.
Jeremiah 50:23How is the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN!
how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
BABYLON = the HAMMER and SICKLE !
Psalm 118:5 I called on the LORD in distress;

The LORD answered me and set me in a broad place.
6 The LORD is on my side;
I will not fear.
What can man do to me?
7 The LORD is for me among those who help me;
Therefore I shall see my desire on those who hate me.
8 It is better to trust in the LORD
Than to put confidence in man.
Than to put confidence in princes.
10 All nations surrounded me,

But in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
11 They surrounded me,
Yes, they surrounded me;
12 They surrounded me like bees;
They were quenched like a fire of thorns;
For in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
Revelation 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great
authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily[a] with a loud voice,
saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for
every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the
wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the
merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, lest you share
in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached[b] to heaven, and God has
remembered her iniquities. 6 Render to her just as she rendered to you,[c] and repay her double
according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7 In the measure that she
glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in
her heart, I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow. 8 Therefore her plagues will come
in one daydeath and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the
Lord God who judges[d] her.
Revelation 18:21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea,
saying, Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found
anymore.
bob said this on January 19, 2010 at 9:33 pm | Reply
51. There are a couple of things that everyone seems to be missing on this topic.
First of all, in prophecy, a woman always refers to a church, not a country. Countries are referred to as
beasts. The woman rides a beast so it is a church that is its own nation. Sound familiar? The church is
very wealthy with much gold and silver and is clothed in scarlet. Sound familiar? The woman (church)
is located in the city of seven hills. Sound familiar?
And no-one recognizes that the words Mystery Babylon refers to an ancient pagan religion, not the
city or empire. Elements of this religion have infiltrated Christianity and it must be removed before
Christ returns to marry his church.
Think of this the Book of Revelation is all about the return of Christ and his marriage to the true
church. So what do you think must happen to his church before it can become His bride? Is your church
perfect? Probably not. How about the biggest church on earth the Vatican? We all know they will be
chastised for their transgressions. They are literally full of pagan Babylon. This Babylon must be
destroyed before a marriage can take place.
So here are Gods choices when he returns:
A) Destroy America for becoming unfaithful.
B) Destroy Islam because they hate the Jews.
C) Destroy the Hindus, Buddhists and all other non-believers while hes at it.
D) Prepare His church to become His bride.
Just think back to ancient Israel and the prophet Jeremiah who warned Gods people to straighten up and
get with Gods program or else God would punish them. How did he do that? He allowed their enemy,
Babylon, to conquer them and spoil there nation and end the nation of Israel for over 2000 years. He did
not destroy Babylon, even though they were pagan idol worshippers, instead he rewarded them with
Jewish slaves for 70 years.
So why would He decide to destroy modern Americas or Islam or any other nation for that matter?
Well, the Christian church will not be turned into slaves this time, but it will have to be cleansed. Im
sure we all agree on that. So shouldnt the Book of Revelation tell us about this cleansing? Maybe it
does think about it.
James Giordano said this on July 14, 2010 at 8:39 am | Reply
52. Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you
on her.
Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the
earth.
Stephen, the first Christian martyr, fingers the council at Jerusalem as the murderers of the prophets, and
they were so angry they killed Stephen, too:
Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which
shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Jesus speaks harsh words to the leaders of Jerusalem, saying they are worse than harlots, and also says
that Jeursalem kills the prophets:
Mat 21:31 Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God
before you.
Mat 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the
publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye
might believe him.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets,
and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with
them in the blood of the prophets.
Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the
prophets.
Mat 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Mat 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them
ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them
from city to city:
Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of
righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the
altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto
thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under
her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh
in the name of the Lord.
Luk 13:31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart
hence: for Herod will kill thee.
Luk 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to
day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
Luk 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a
prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Luk 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee;
how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings,
and ye would not!
Luk 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me,
until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Anna said this on July 14, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Reply
53. The Israelites did not go in bondage to Babylon; the Jews of the Southern Kingdom, House of Judah
did. The House of Israel was in exile beyond the Euphrates at this time. The name Israel belongs to
the lost tribes by virtue of Jacob giving the rights to the name to Joseshs sons, Ephraim and Manasseh.
No Israelite ever let anyone call them a Jew. They hated the Southern Kingdom and were continually at
war with them until Assyria carried them away from their tribal area. They were still beyond the
Euphrates when Rome destroyed the Kingdom of Judah and Jerusalem (the Jews), according to
Josephus, the Jewish historian. God promised to join the 2 sticks and make them 1 when they return to
their homeland. (1948) Wake up, Ephraim and Manasseh!
Anna said this on July 14, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Reply
54. Marianne, Isaiah seems to have a twofold prophecy.
Isaiah is plainly addressing his countrymen, as the next words show, not the Babylonians.
Isaiah 21:10 New International Version (

O my people, crushed on the threshing floor, I tell you what I have heard from the LORD Almighty,
from the God of Israel.
Line upon line, here a little, there a little.
Anna said this on July 15, 2010 at 12:29 am | Reply
55. When I came home From Iraq I was diagnosed with PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, (a medical
term that simply means that as long as I live I WILL NEVER FORGET!) I was told that I am sick that I
am not Right. Then I turned on the TV and I see Dick Durbin saying American soldiers are committing
acts of torture at places like Abu Grab and Quantico because they had a Al Qaeda terrorist who saws
civilians heads off with their hands tied behind their backs, Al Qaeda terrorist who place bombs on three
year old children, Al Qaeda terrorist who came in our country when we were at peace and murdered
over two thousand American civilians, and they had these terrorist standing on a bar stool with a dunce
cap on their head and thats Torture! Why in the hell didnt he say a damned thing about Matt Maupin,
Shoshana Johnson, Edgar Hernandez, James Riley, Patrick Miller, Joseph Hudson, Jacob N. Fritz,
Jonathan B. Chism, Shawn P. Falter, Jonathon M. Millican, or any of the other American soldiers who
have been captured during this war! Private Kristian Menchaca of Houston and Private Thomas Tucker
of Oregon were captured by terrorists in Iraq , hacked to death, their eyes gouged, their bodies defiled.
In fact it was the American soldiers who have died including all those who have been captured in this
war (and I havent seen any enemy POW camps but Ive seen a shit load of bodies that have been
tortured to death by these scum that Dick Durbin is defending!) that give Dick Durbin the FREEDOM to
call them nazis for putting some Al-Qaida dirt bag on a bar stool with pajamas and a dunce cap! I might
have PTSD but Im not the one who is sick its DICK DURBIN! Are you Really an AMERICAN
DICK?!?! Or just another Communist who hates AMERICA ? Yah call me a nazi I take that as a
compliment coming from a pro-faggot pinko communist like you! The nazis only murdered 6 million
people compared to you communist who murdered over 200 million!
On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed by
Presedent John Fitzgerald Kennedy, with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve
Bank(WHICH IS PRIVATLY OWNED!) of its power to loan money to the United States Federal
Government at interest.
President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United
States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation!!!!!!
IT WASNT THE NAZIS WHO MURDERED A SITTING UNITED STATES PRESIDENT! IT WAS
YOU COMMUNIST!!!
AFTER HE SIGNED AN ORDER TELLING YOU TO STOP RIPPING US OFF LIKE THE LAZY
BAGS OF SHIT THAT YOU ARE, AND WHERE YOU COULD SHOVE
IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AIG BAILOUT????
Remember when this economic crisis hit, and Congress let Bear Sterns go under, pushed a bunch of
forced marriages between banks.etc? Then they bailed out AIG. At the time, I thought: Thats strange.
What does an insurance company have to do with this crisis?
I think I just found the answer. Among other things, AIG INSURES THE PENSION TRUST OF THE
UNITED STATES CONGRESS!! No wonder they got bailed out right away!
To hell with the people, lets protect our future, said all our Senators and Congressmen. Nice to see
where their loyalties lie! (Im from the government and Im here to help you!)
bullshit socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million American babies to their god satan! And to
top it all off the Communist muslim Traitor Hussein Obama is releasing more terrorist all the while
saying nothing of my brothers in arms who have been tortured to death. I will stand with the Muslims
should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. Barack Hussein Obama Audacity of Hope
They died so that all the communist socialist pro baby murdering, God hater scum can continue to free
load off of you and me on more of their worthless lazy bag of shit free hand out programs!
The stupidity of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS started Destroying Our NATION A LONG TIME
AGO! (the COMMUNIST term POLITICAL CORRECNESS was first seen in Mao Tse-tungs Little
Red Book by the way, due to the overzealous guardians of academic political correctness a communist
engendered abomination that is instituting censorship little by little! I am an American!!!!! I will never
recognize POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!!!
Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the
Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been
numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so Black Jack told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a
lesson.
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers
then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists
were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs blood. This would mean that they
could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.
All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The
lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the
others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.
Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists wont make them flinch.
They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they wont get
to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the
hated pigs of the devil.
IF THE POLITICAL LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY WERE NOT COMMUNIST TRAITORS THE
WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER A LONG TIME AGO AND
MANY OF MY BROTHERS IN ARMS WHO ARE NOW DEAD WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!
A Chinese General and Author, Sun Tzu, born 500 BC quotes If you know the enemy and know yourself
you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.
strength.
the common man.
If you believe that we still have a two party political system then you have been truly deceived by the
enemy! Deception is the true art of war! All we see is a communist sherade! The only difference that we
have are the communist who promote homosexuality by grabbing their ankles and the communist who
promote homosexuality on their knees!
The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America acknowledges faith towards a
supreme God who created mankind. The Declaration also acknowledges by all who signed it, the laws of
God, the providence of God, and the judgment of God. The Declaration also appeals to God as the
Supreme Judge of the world for their intentions. Furthermore, for the support of this Declaration, the
signers relied firmly on the protection of Divine Providence.
slaughter.- George Washington, General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American
little.
It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. George Washington.
It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be
grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors. .- George Washington,
General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American Revolution and first President of
the United States of America.
On January 22nd 1973 The high jacked U.S Supreme Court legalized unrestricted abortions since that
time over 50 million babies have been murdered, How can this be a Christian Nation, how can you
follow the commands of God Almighty and allow this to continue? It is difficult for many people to
accept the truth that several of our nations top leaders have been members of the occultic Bohemian
Grove. George W. Bush is also a member of this occult organization. Since 1873, the Global Elite Has
Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called
Bohemian Club Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family
Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male Club
Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone
Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the Great Owl of Bohemia.
Leviticus 26
1Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set
up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:4
4Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.
In ancient Babylon the priest sacrificed babies to their god baal, in America the communist under their
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and
main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is
Allahs Apostle said: I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that
none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allahs Apostle, and offer the
prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform at that, then they save their lives and
property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah
(Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).
Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57).
Or how about Mohammeds raping of his nine-year-old wife and justifying it by saying Allah
ordained it:
My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down.
My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door
she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our
house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet
consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old (Tabari 9:131).
Allahs Apostle told Aisha [his six-year-old bride and nine-year-old sexual partner], You were
shown to me twice in my dreams. I beheld a man or angel carrying you in a silken cloth. He said to me,
She is yours, so uncover her. And behold, it was you. I would then say to myself, If this is from
Allah, then it must happen (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 139-140).
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United States . Chinese missiles
couldnt hit the side of a barn, notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North
America and those that made it would likely miss their targets. Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now
hit any city in the USA , using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized
guidance systems and multiple warheads. China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable
China to strike by proxy equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work while the Chinese
play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical,
biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies. We like your president. We
want to see him re-elected, former Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told China gate bagman
Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the
1996 election Clinton s way. Clintons top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top
donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China . Clinton recieved
funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar

Joshua 23:14-16
14 Behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth. And you know in all your hearts and in all your
souls that not one thing has failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spoke concerning
you. All have come to pass for you; not one word of them has failed. 15 Therefore it shall come to pass,
that as all the good things have come upon you which the LORD your God promised you, so the LORD
will bring upon you all harmful things, until He has destroyed you from this good land which the LORD
your God has given you. 16 When you have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which
He commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed down to them, then the anger of
the LORD will burn against you, and you shall perish quickly from the good land which He has given
you.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
Abraham Lincoln.
slaughter.- George Washington , General, Commander in Chief of the colonial armies in the American
little.
THE COMMUNIST HAMMER AND SICKLE OF THE WHOLE EARTH The sins of Israel will be
forgiven at the time of Jesus return. This destruction of Babylon foretold in Jeremiah, chapters 50, and
51 is the destruction of end time Babylon , the Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17, and 18. Verses in this
chapter 50 refer to the hammer and sickle of this prophetic Mystery Babylon . The prophet Jeremiah is
talking to prophetic Babylon , in verse 16, of Jeremiah 50 where it says; Jer. 50:16: Cut off the sower
from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: Then verse 23, the prophet still
speaking against Babylon , says; Jer. 50:23: How is the HAMMER of the whole earth cut asunder and
broken! How is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! In Jeremiah 50, which prophecies of
the destruction of end time Babylon, as does Revelation 17, and 18 the two major symbols which
identify end time Babylon are given as the HAMMER AND THE
SICKLE. Babylon is here called, the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH, and her activities are
called, in verse 16, the handling of the SICKLE. In Revelation 17, and 18 Mystery Babylon is said to be
clothed in scarlet or red, the beast upon which she rides, is red, the official color of Communism is red,
they call themselves the Reds, and their Communist flag is a red flag, with a hammer and a sickle upon
it. In all the descriptions of Mystery Babylon, this end time world power, it is the Christians, the Saints
of God, who are the victims of this power, and the ones against who it makes war. In Luke 21:12, Jesus
spoke of these last days, and the anti-Christ Communist warfare, to be waged against Christians. God
says of Himself: Deuteronomy 32:40-42 40 I lift my hand to heaven and declare: As surely as I live
forever, 41 when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance
on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. 42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my
sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders.
Deuteronomy 32: 43 Rejoice, O nations, with his people, [ f ] , [ g ] for he will avenge the blood of his
servants; he will take vengeance on his enemies and make atonement for his land and people. Revelation
18:20-21 20Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her
for the way she treated you. 21Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone
and threw it into the sea, and said: With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
never to be found again.
While Richard Nixon was President, the United States of America was officially divided up into ten
regions, under what is now called Regional Governments. All United States Government Programs,
and all United States Government funds, are distributed not to the fifty states, but to the Ten Regional
Headquarters, and from there they go directly to the cities, and the counties bypassing the fifty State
Governments. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE NOW DIVIDED INTO TEN
REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS (FEMA)
THE TEN HORNS OF THE BEAST It is not the nations of Europe, which have built up the Beast of
World Communism and the New World Order of Mystery Babylon; instead it has been The United
States of America that has built up World Communism and the New World Order. It is from America ,
which has come the food, technology, and money by which Russia has been able to conquer and control
the nations of Asia, and Eastern Europe . The money for the Bolshevik Revolution itself came from New
York bankers. The Kuhn and Leob bank, one of the largest banks in New York , sent one shipment of
$20,000,000 in gold directly to Lenin, to bribe Czarist officials, and hire murderers, and assassins for the
revolution. Almost all of the money, that financed the Russian Revolution, came from America . When
the Communist murder of several millions of Russian farmers, brought Russia to famine in the 1920s, it
was the American, Herbert Hoover, and it was American food and dollars, which then saved the
Bolshevik Regime from collapse. It was not the Nations of Europe , who gave this power to the Red
Beast; it was the American Federal Government. When the Red Bolsheviks, were ready to collapse
again, in the 1930s, it was Franklin Delanore Roosevelt, who gave formal recognition, to the criminal
government of Red Assassins, and clothed them with American prestige. America provided the way, for
them to receive trade and aid, from other countries. In the 1940s, when the German Armies had all but
overthrown the Bolshevik power in Eastern Europe, it was American supplies, a flood of guns,
ammunition, artillery, planes, bombs, food and supplies, which saved the Communist Government, for
the third time in less than 20 years. THE AMERICAN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BETRAYED,
AND GAVE ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE TO THE RED BEAST OF MYSTERY BABYLON AND
ITS NEW WORLD ORDER Franklin Delanore Roosevelt, and those around him, diverted war supplies,
from Africa, and Europe, and from the Pacific to send them by way of ship to Mermance, in the Arctic,
to keep the Bolshevik Regime from collapsing and being overthrown by its own people. The war in the
Pacific was almost lost to the Japanese, because of this stripping of supplies, from the Pacific Theater of
war. Near the end of World War Two, it was America under Roosevelt, then Truman, and General
Eisenhower who held back the American, and British Troops, and forced the Germans to surrender, all
of Eastern Europe, and Eastern Germany, to the Reds. At the end of World War Two, it was General
Eisenhower, and the American Army, which rounded up over 1,000,000 refugees, and escapees from
Eastern Europe, and from Russia, and forcibly turned them over to the Bolshevik Red Armies, for
deportation to Russia. This betrayal was so brutal, that American Army Officers nicknamed it
Operation Keelhaul. keelhaul (klhl) tr.v.
keelhauled, keelhauling, keelhauls. 1. Nautical. To discipline by dragging under the keel of a ship. 2.
To rebuke harshly. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT THIS
BETRAYAL OF THE EUROPEAN REFUGEES OF THE WORLD WHO WERE TURNED OVER
TO THE RED BOLSHEVIK BEAST OF MYSTERY BABYLON BY THE AMERICAN FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT Reporters who later wrote stories about Operation Keelhaul, estimated that almost
every anti-Communist refugee in Western Europe was rounded up by Eisenhower, and the American
Army and turned over to the Bolshevik Reds. High officials in other European Governments protested
this American brutality but Eisenhower was Supreme Commander of all Allied Armies therefore his
orders were carried out. The Communist controlled American Press did not report this genocide, and the
American People did not learn of Operation Keelhaul until almost 20 years after the war. Within 90
days, the Chinese Nationalists were running out of American ammunition. They then evacuated to
Formosa , and because of no ammunition to defend themselves Mainland China fell to the Red-Beast of
Bolshevism, courtesy of the United States Government. And this all takes place, while the American
People actually oppose, and hate Communism and the New World Order. And the angel says, of those
ten Federal Governments of America . Remember this is after the supernatural Lamb and his chosen
ones take back their government from the secret hidden behind the scenes rulers who have stolen it. It
says in Rev. 17:16; Rev. 17:16: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the
whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17: For
God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until
the words of God shall be fulfilled. AS RED BABYLON FALLS SHE WILL BE SEEN BY THE
WORLD FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS It is God Almighty Himself, who has allowed this aid, and
help to flow from America , to Red Russia, and Red China, that Gods Word might be fulfilled. It does
show that it is God who is in command. Scriptures in the 18th chapter, of Revelation, describes the fall
of Babylon , which will take place over a very short period of time. It is only as Babylon falls, or is
destroyed, that the people of the earth will see her for what she really is. While Babylon was in full
power, and still existed, most people did not even suspect her existence, to say nothing of how she
secretly rules the world, including America . But now Babylon is falling. She is being exposed, and
made naked for all to see how she secretly operates. THE RICH AND POWERFUL
INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL WEEP AND WAIL WHEN
MYSTERY BABYLON FALLS Babylon is that thing which has made many men rich. Many men have
become billionaires, by operating
under Babylon s rules. People wonder why the rich men of the world do not use their wealth to fight
Communism and the New World Order. The truth is that many of the rich men of the world have made
their wealth by helping Communism and the New World Order. Communism and the New World Order,
are not all there is to Mystery Babylon, massive world trade and the international corporations are part
of Mystery Babylon. MASSIVE WORLD TRADE IS PART OF MYSTERY BABYLON , MAKING
THE INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS OF THE WORLD RICH The international corporations of
the earth, are made, or waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. The several thousand men,
who own and operate 100 of the largest banks, in New York City alone have lent over 20 billion dollars
to Moscow in the last few years, drawing upwards of 2 billion dollars in interest each year, off the backs
of the Soviet Workers. The Rockefeller Brothers, have opened a Chase Manhattan Branch, at number
one, Carl Marx Square , across from the Kremlin. They lend money, directly to the Soviet Rulers, and
the Soviet Citizens, collecting usury under the protection of the Red Army. In every country taken over
by the Red-Communists, they first occupied the territory, then sold oil and mineral rights to American
international corporations, and European oil companies, such as Exxon. In the Congo , Shell Oil rigs are
guarded by Negroes armed with Soviet weapons. From the article The Idiots Guide to China gate,
Richard Poe States When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United States
. Chinese missiles couldnt hit the side of a barn, notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few
could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets. Thanks to Bill
Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA , using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with dead-
accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads. China probably has suitcase nukes as
well. These enable China to strike by proxy equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work
while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles
of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies. We like your
president. We want to see him re-elected, former Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told China
gate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at
tilting the 1996 election Clinton s way. Clintons top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese
agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China .
Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them
James and Mochtar
The ACLU is in a dangerous and risky undertaking, for they are vastly outnumbered. If average
Americans understood their true agenda, there would be an uprising of revolutionary proportions.
Therefore, secrecy of their true agenda is critical.
Woe unto you, lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in you hindered. (Luke 11:52)
Capitalism and Communism, and the New World Order are not at war with each other, Capitalism, and
Communism and the New World Order are partners, in the war of the conquest of the peoples of the
world. Capitalism and the International Corporations provide Communism and the New World Order,
with the money, tools and weapons of conquest. Then when the people are reduced to slave status, they
are put to work by these international corporations, to produce goods, which are then shipped, and
traded by the Capitalists in the world markets. It is an arrangement, of total cooperation, but it is always
accompanied by words of anger, and accusations by both sides, against each other. The purpose of those
words, are to confuse the peoples of the world, and keep them from realizing, that Communism, the
New World Order, the international corporations, and Capitalism are all partners, not enemies in the
conquest of the peoples of the earth. MYSTERY BABYLON WILL BE DESTROYED BY VIOLENCE
Verse 21 it says that Mystery Babylon will be thrown down with violence, it says; Rev. 18:21: And a
mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence
shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
The criminal politicians will not save America! Many of them are actually the enemy! Only God and the
soldier who places his trust in God will save America!
THE SAINTS OF GOD AND THE LAMB WILL DESTROY THE NEW WORLD ORDER Many
prophecies of the Bible say that Gods people will destroy this end time Beast and its New World Order.
So if the ten horns destroy the beast then it stands to reason that these ten horns represent Gods
Kingdom. The angel told John that God has put it into the hearts of the rulers of the TEN HORNS to
agree to give the Kingdom (of the Saints) to the beast until the words of God will be fulfilled. So
therefore the TEN HORNS HAVE TO BE GODS KINGDOM because God has given the Kingdom to
the ten horns to fulfill his will. Learned Bible students know that America is the Zion of Bible prophecy
and is part of Christendom. The word Christendom literally means THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST.
The United States of America is one of the NATIONS OF CHRISTENDOM. Notice in the following
verses concerning the Kingdom of the ten horns: Rev. 17:17: For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill
his will, and to agree, and give their (the Saints) kingdom (the ten horns) unto the beast, until the words
of God shall be fulfilled.
Luke22:35-38 Then Jesus asked them, When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack
anything? Nothing, they answered. 36 He said to them, But now if you have a purse, take it, and
also a bag; and if you dont have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: And he was
numbered with the transgressors [ b ] ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is
written about me is reaching its fulfillment. 38 The disciples said, See, Lord, here are two swords.
That is enough, he replied.
Matthew 10:32-42 32 Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my
Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in
heaven. 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace,
but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a
daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law 36 a mans enemies will be the members of his own
household. [ e ] 37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone
who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and anyone who does not take his
cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his
life for my sake will find it. 40 He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the
one who sent me. 41 Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophets
reward, and anyone who receives a righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous
mans reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones because he is
my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward.
REPENT! AND TURN BACK TO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leviticus 26: 40-46

40If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they
trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
41And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my
covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
43The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without
them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my
judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.
44And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I
abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.
45But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the
land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.
46These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children
of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a
woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Luke 22:35-36
Luke 22:36 (New King James Version)

Revelation 16:15 Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his
GARMENTS, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.
Luke 22:36
WATCH AND KEEP YOUR SWORD!!!!!!!!!
Matthew 10:34 Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a
sword.
ALL NATIONS SURROUNDED ME, BUT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD I WILL DESTROY
THEM. Psalm 118:10
Jeremiah 50:14-16 14Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow,
shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the LORD.
15Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are
thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto
her.
16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: for fear of
the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own
land.
Jeremiah 50:22-46 22A sound of battle is in the land, and of great destruction.
23How is the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN! how is
Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
24I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art
found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the LORD.
25The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this is
the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
26Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as heaps, and destroy her
utterly: let nothing of her be left.
27Slay all her bullocks; let them go down to the slaughter: woe unto them! for their day is come, the
time of their visitation.
28The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of
the LORD our God, the vengeance of his temple.
29Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let
none thereof escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that she hath done, do unto
her: for she hath been proud against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.
30Therefore shall her young men fall in the streets, and all her men of war shall be cut off in that day,
saith the LORD.
31Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, saith the Lord GOD of hosts: for thy day is come, the
time that I will visit thee.
32And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his
cities, and it shall devour all round about him.
33Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed
together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.
34Their Redeemer is strong; the LORD of hosts is his name: he shall throughly plead their cause, that he
may give rest to the land, and disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon.
35A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her
princes, and upon her wise men.
36A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be
dismayed.
37A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the
midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.
38A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they
are mad upon their idols.
39Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the
owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from
generation to generation.
40As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall
no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.
41Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up
from the coasts of the earth.
42They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy: their voice shall roar
like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee,
O daughter of Babylon.
43The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of
him, and pangs as of a woman in travail.
44Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan unto the habitation of the strong: but
I will make them suddenly run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her?
for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before
me?
45Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that
he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out:
surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
46At the noise of the taking of Babylon the earth is moved, and the cry is heard among the nations.

Jeremiah 50:14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around,
All you who bend the bow;
BABYLON = the HAMMER and SICKLE !

I will not fear.

Joshua 23:10
10 One man of you shall chase a thousand, for the LORD your God is He who fights for you, as He
promised you.
Revelation 18:21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea,
saying, Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found
anymore.
steve said this on July 17, 2010 at 1:30 am | Reply
o hi Steve
I just read every word you wrote, and I agree.

One point that needs clarification. If the 10 horns are the 10 regions of the USA, then how can
this be the kingdom of God?
56. Hello Subhumans, this is a Babylonian speaking. The existence I created that you call civilization has
been here for far longer than your jewish slavers have led you to think. The Illuminati, The Free
Masons, The Skull And Bones are three of the MANY satanic/fallen one/Jew demon lord worshipping
factions that have evolved with your people ever since your ARIANI race came to be. This demonic
entity has sent wave after wave after wave of your sub-species at the only true HUMAN settlement on
this planet until it has become what it is today (full of arabs/persians/kurds and all other jewish races).
And yet you still send your legions to recover technology from Babil in hopes of warding off the GODS
who come back for the people they created. 2012 is almost here, the Mayan people that my people gave
knowledge to predicted the end of the devils reign on this planet and the welcoming back of the Golden
Age. Just as they predicted the death of themselves under the hand of the cross bearing ships of Spain.
Speaking of Christianity, a jewish demonic joke as to where they sacrificed a Babylonian named Jesus
for their demon lord. A tablet, one which your shadow governments forgot to cover up showed a Pope
like figure discussing matters with a hittite
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Alex9/pob_fig040.jpg). This tablet was dated back to 2000bc,
much before your fake religions came to be. The cross most definitely symbolizes something, but I can
tell you it has nothing to do with the sacrifice named Jesus.
Moving on I will offer you the only truth you will hear from anyone on this planet. The Gods youve all
based your religions off of were stolen from one source, and that source is Babil. We the Babilonians did
not create a religion of worship or of gods in the sense youve been forced to take it, but rather we wrote
down the history of the dawn of man through the gene-splicing of the cro-magnum and the Anunnaki.
The Gods we speak of are the powers of this domain. My Gods do not ask for your souls, as the jewish
demon does. Though since the jews, a people who have no real origin (ever wonder why) have
absolute human power over this world with the help of their slaves, destruction shall be done. Species of
lower races will come to their end, all who allowed this germ to take a hold over its people shall cease
to exist. The Anunnaki and the deities who created the only real humans on this planet will come once
again on the date of 12/21/2012, and after witnessing what your ape races have done not only to the
knowledge of civilization, language, mathematics (another form of language), medicine, astronomy and
all matters of elevated conscious existence that your species could never comprehend, they will lay swift
justice upon your heads. The beings that created the jews and that have led this planet to where it is right
now will face the wrath of the creators. All means of defense will be futile, all prayers to false gods will
show the creators the state of slavery this planet is suffering. You took and destroyed without
contemplating the consequence, or did you? Regardless, the everlasting kingdom comes again once and
for all in just 2 years. Enjoy this decaying nightmare youve created while it lasts, subhumans.
SonOfE-den said this on September 2, 2010 at 4:09 am | Reply
o Dear superhuman
Your comment was very creative and colorful. I do not agree with you, but I see no harm in
letting you express your thoughts.
Subhuman
Marianne
Marianne said this on September 2, 2010 at 4:51 am | Reply
You are in no place to agree/disagree or even have a say in the matter. All you need to is
to just dig through the layers of jewish bs and you will see what I see. Only for you its
tragic. You have lived off the idea that was my peoples birth right for far too long, and if
that was not enough you havent taken a moment to give thanks even once. Rather you
took EVERY moment to ridicule and destroy what is left, because after all you all are
barbaric races with nothing to your names. Expect your children to meet the same fate
you unwashed masses brought to my Utopian people with the help of the antarctic test
tube golden haired demons and the greys. Head smashed across a wall.
Again, enjoy this decaying nightmare while it lasts, and keep the truth as far away from
your mind as it only tells of your death.
SonOfE-den said this on September 3, 2010 at 2:23 am | Reply
SonOfE-den
I am sorry to hear you feel that way. But I see nothing utopian in a society that
uses golden haired demons and the greys, to smash heads across a wall.
You describe yourself as essentially demonic.
I am covered by the blood of Jesus, so I am not concerned about any Anunnaki or

other evil creatures re-invading the earth.
You have my prayers.
Well, well, look what we have here. A Nephilim.
Your so called gods are nothing but fallen Angles who are bound by the Lord of
Hosts, and your Kin are evil spirits roaming the earth looking for a body. Jesus
place a bunch of them in swine.
Repent to G-d the Father in Christs name before it is to late.
Leatherneck said this on September 3, 2010 at 3:03 am | Reply
o It looks like you were wrong.
57. You are in no place to agree/disagree or even have a say in the matter>
She has the highest authority, KING JESUS, to rebuke demons and evil spirits and cast them into outer
darkness.
Anna said this on September 3, 2010 at 2:46 am | Reply
58. All nations compassed me about, but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them.Psalm118:10
bob said this on September 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Reply
59. ) i live in babilon city
abdullih zaid ali alwash said this on September 8, 2010 at 10:44 pm | Reply
o Have you seen any Hizbollah targeting American troops leaving Iraq? Do you think your country
will fall apart now that America is leaving?
Over.
Leatherneck said this on September 9, 2010 at 12:12 am | Reply
o dear abdullih
What is it like to live there now? Do you think you can remain a free country, or do you feel
vulnerable to your enemies?
60. Hello again,
Re: What about the commerce of Babylon that is described?
Im guessing that when you say Commerce, you are speaking about the following:
The merchants of the earth will weep and mour over her because no one buys their cargoes any more
Cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine lined, purple, silk and scarlet cloth, every sort of
citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; cargoes of
cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrry and frankenscense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and whet;
cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and bodies and souls of men.
I have been wanting to do a study on Romes import, export for some time regarding this Scripture, but
have not yet done it. I can tell you this though, the Roman Catholic Church owns most of everything. I
believe that, once I do study this aspect, I will find that Rome more than fits this criteria.
Don McAllister said this on September 23, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Reply
61. Me again,
Babylon also kills the saints, the catholic church does not do this in modern times.
Youre kiding, right? Do you remember a little thing called the Inquistion? The Roman Catholic
church killed many people in the name of the Roman Catholocism. But, they didnt just kill them, the
invented ways of torture using machines, like the rack where they would pull people apart and another
method called Water Torture The victims nostrils were pinched shut, and eight quarts of fluid were
poured down the victims throat through a funnel. Other techniques included forcing a cloth down the
throat, while pouring water, which made a swallowing reflex pushing it further down into the stomach
producing all the agonies of suffocation by drowning until the victim lost consciousness. Instead of
water, the torture was sometimes conducted with boiling water or vinegar.
The Pear
The pear was a torture device used on females. This device was inserted into the vagina, or mouth of the
victim and then expanded by force of the screw to the maximum aperture setting of the victims cavity.
The antrum would then irremediably become lacerated, nearly always fatally, ripping the tissue, flesh
and membranes.
The Breast Ripper

The name of this device speaks for itself. Women condemned of heresy, blasphemy, adultery, and
witchcraft often felt the wrath of this device as it violently tore a breast from their torso.
There are many more, but I think you get the point, no pun intended. These tortures were done by the
Roman Catholic church in the name of their dogma. The Catholic Church has been involved in many
more atrosities in the name of the church. But, this is about the past and you are inquiring about the
future.
I was speaking to someone who knew a clergyman that went to an assembly put on by the Roman
Catholic church and the speaker announced that the church was movng towards regaining the power that
it had prior to 1798, which would mean that they could take action against anyone who was not
conforming to the Roman Catholic church or anyone who spoke against it. Remember, Roman
Catholicism thinks that it is the true church and has the God given power to take action against anyone
who disagrees with them and they are aiming to get that power back. I have been saying that, I believe
that one of the future popes is going to be that false prophet, what do you think is going to happen once
he begins to perform those signs, miracles and wonders and who will also be the right hand man to the
beast? He and the kingdom of the beast will have all the power they need to execute the great tribulation
saints. And why would they do that? Because those tribulation saints will be rejecting the beast, his
image and his mark and keeping their testimony for Christ and the gospel. The false prophet will be
looked upon as the leader of that false religious system, Mystery Babylon and the saints of Christ will be
the enemy, as it is written regarding them:
The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for
forty-two months. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dweling
place and those who live in heaven. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer
them. And he was given authrity over every tribe, people, language and nation.
During those last days, the Roman Catholic church representing Mystery Babylon, along with the power
of the beast, will again have the power to persecute and put to death those who disagree with them and
those days are coming!
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs
of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
o hi don
I was speaking about the end times, not medieval times. The Inquisition was centuries ago..
Who is killing saints today? in 2010?
who has slaves today? in 2010?
o Don Sept 23, for interest sake it is estimated that the Catholic Church killed more than WWI and
WWII put together but Islam has slaughtered more than any other empire and in Gautiers history
on India it is said that Islam slaughtered more than 400 million alone, now how many hundreds
of millions slaughtered in the Byzantine era plus to our day will be many more. We cannot
conceive of the saints slaughtered by Islam for it is its trademark as was the Catholic church to
slaughter Jews, Christian dissidents and pagans they both did it but Islam has surpassed all and
its main slaughter was the Christians and Jews who refused conversion or dhimmitude so the
sign of the one is that it slaughtered the saints, you cannot but see that Islam has done more than
its share with Catholicism, Russia Europe etc. I find it difficult to this point to name America,
dont you Don?
marie jean said this on September 19, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Reply
62. Yep, me again,
Of the Seven Hills of current Rome, five (Aventine, Caelian, Esquiline, Quirinal and Viminal hills) are
populated with monuments, buildings, and parks. The Capitoline now hosts the Municipality of Rome,
and the Palatine Hill is an archaeological area. Note that the Vatican hill is not one of the seven hills
of Rome, as it is located on the opposite side of the river Tiber.
At the time that John was receiving the phrophecy from the angel on the Island of Patmos, Rome was
literally built on those seven hills.
In regards to those who think that the literal city of Babylon is going to be rebuilt and fulfill this
prophecy, I say this, Babylon is currently not even a valid city and is not even established as a city and
they think that this is going to be the city that rules over the kings of the earth?! If it hasnt been and is
not now, it is not going to be. We dont have that much time left here on this earth for it be completely
rebuilt and to become a major super power. Yep, just add water and presto, the city that rules over the
kings of the earth!
o Come on now Don, no one is writing add water, and presto. A lot has been rebuilt already, and it
would not take long to build a tourist trade which brings Hotels, etc within the next ten years.
It is written G-d will utter destroy Babylon in the end times. Not just mystery Babylon. Why
should we doubt G-ds word?
Over.
o How do you know how much time we have left on this earth?
As for the Catholic Church being Babylon
All false religion is part of Babylon, not just Catholicism. Zechariah speaks of a woman in a
basket (representing evil) being taken back to Babylonia. When it is ready, the basket will be set
in place.
It seems the woman will be returning to her home.
Is Babylon that head that received to fatal wound and then lives again?
Is mystery Babylon the woman who reigns over the kings of the earth?
Everyone has their theories about who it could be and theyre all so sure they are correct. But
this world is changing so quickly that no one knows what tomorrow will bring.
Babylon could be rebuilt in a few short years. A financial crisis could destroy America and Wall
Street. Babylon could become the worlds center for commerce and religion.
http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1193/print/
My belief is that Babylon is a world system of commerce, religion, government that has existed
since the time of Nimrod. America, Wall Street, Catholicism, Hollywood, etc. are only a part of
that system (Daughters of Babylon).
the old babylon has always been a problem for Israel.we will see how things develop in
the near future.
Marianne said this on January 21, 2013 at 1:29 am | Reply
63. If the woman is Rome (catholic), then the beast is who? union of catholic countries
The disignation of Beast represents a couple different entities.
1. Satan as the beast:
And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon adn his
angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon
was hurled downthat ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He
was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. (Rev.12:7-9)
The beast out of the sea (Man of lawlessnes/Antichrist)
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his
horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. (Rev.13:1)
The Angel of the Abyss as the beast:
They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five
months. they had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in
Greek, Apollyon. (Rev.9:10-11)
Now when they ( the two witnesses) have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the
Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. (Rev.11:7)
The beast which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his
destrucition. (Rev.17:8)
The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his
destruction. (Rev.17:11)
I hope that this sheds a little more light on the suject of who the beast is.
o G-d must have taken his power away from the two witnesses at this time, otherwise this fallen
Angel would not be able to murder the two Saints. Three, and half days later they rise up, and go
to heaven. I bet that scares the h666 out of the unholy.
o The beast which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to
his destrucition. (Rev.17:8)
The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going
to his destruction. (Rev.17:11)
If the Beast ( if ) was Babylon (which is Islam today, for it could not be Rome for when John
wrote this Rome was the Empire in charge, then the one to follow Rome and Ravaged the
Byzantine and the territories of the former Empires and took them and contain them today and
had these same horns in number, listen to Walid Shoebat quote them for you, and if the head of
the Ottomans wiped out by the Brits was this head wiped out and the abomination of desolation
that sits where it ought not where Rome wiped out the Temple of God in Jerusalem and where
the Beasts temples now sit (male and female) then the new head of the Caliphate the Islamists
are fighting to raise up in all the Islamist country and seem to be renewing the old Caliphate may
surprize us all in the end when we see them who divided Jerusalem iand in our day re-unitedit
also as the Babylon that shall fall Islam has a big mouth, the media and UN exactly fits
description as its protector and blasphemer who declares this beast of prey and violent
warmongers who plan on taking over the world , as peaceful when it is not and as we speak they
are slaughtering the Christians and burning their churches while they scream and holler to the
world about the absurd film and the media ignores their vile crimes right now and cover them
with their screaming about this film.
If this fits the bill I think we are a lot closer with the trumpets blowing a warning to the earth of
the evil to come. Just a thought on those scriptures Don for as the statue of Jupiter put up by
Hadrian is the Peter statue in Vatican so the Islamic temples to their god allah sits on the Temple
mount both for male and female, I rather suspect the abominations of deslations are set up to be
destroyed there is no new temple to come to be destroyed for when the next one is built, the
third one that the Lord speaks of and Ezekiel, the Holy Spirit shall return to it as will the Lord.
Much more is already accomplished that many are willing to see.
64. But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies.. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the
mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter
it; for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.
(Luke 21:20-22 RSV)
The whole body, however, of the church at Jerusalem, having been commanded by a divine revelation,
given to men of approved piety there before the war, removed from the city, and dwelt at a certain town
beyond the Jordan, called Pella. Here those that believed in Christ, having removed from Jerusalem, as if
holy men had entirely abandoned the royal city itself, and the whole land of Judea; the divine justice, for
their crimes against Christ and his apostles finally overtook them, totally destroying the whole
generation of these evildoers form the earth. (Eusebius, 3:5.)
Anna said this on September 23, 2010 at 9:24 pm | Reply
65. The whole body, however, of the church at Jerusalem, having been commanded by a divine revelation,
given to men of approved piety there before the war, removed from the city, and dwelt at a certain town
beyond the Jordan, called Pella. Here those that believed in Christ, having removed from Jerusalem, as if
holy men had entirely abandoned the royal city itself, and the whole land of Judea; the divine justice, for
their crimes against Christ and his apostles finally overtook them, totally destroying the whole
generation of these evildoers form the earth. (Eusebius, 3:5.)
mohammad said this on September 26, 2010 at 11:32 am | Reply
o hi mohammad
I am trying to determine what your point is.
There is no book called Eusebius. There is an author by that name, but to quote him, you would
also have to cite the book name, with chapter and page.
66. 313 AD Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 265-c. 339). In addition to being bishop of Caesarea in Palestine
from c. AD 313, Eusebius was the foremost church historian of his time.
Eusebius, one of the early church fathers wrote: The whole body, however, of the church of Jerusalem,
having been commanded by a divine revelation, given to men of approved piety there before the war,
removed from the city, and dwelt at a certain town beyond the Jordan, called Pella. Here those that
believed in Christ, having removed from Jerusalem, as if holy men had entirely abandoned the royal city
itself, and the whole land of Judea; the divine justice, for their crimes against Christ and His apostles
finally overtook them, totally destroying the whole generation of these evildoers from the earth.
Ecclesiastical History, 3:5:3.
It is clear from the Scriptures that Jesus had adequately taught on the subject of the signs that would
precede the coming judgment and destruction of Jerusalem along with His coming, presence, and that
this teaching had been spread to the Christian community so that they were well informed and watchful
for these events. When the events began to unfold the Christians took note, left Jerusalem, thereby
escaping the destruction that followed during the Roman siege and leveling of that great city, Jerusalem.
As the city was being destroyed the Christians were safe and sound in the distant city of Pella. (having
escaped the destruction of Babylon The Great, the city where their Lord was crucified. Symbolized by
Sodom and Egypt, harlot, adulteress, unfaithful wife of God, old Covenant Queen).
67. Fulfilled prophesy: All these things shall come upon THIS generation .
In the summer of 135. After losing Jerusalem, Bar Kokhba (false messiah, Star of Jacob) and the
remnants of his army withdrew to the fortress of Betar, which also subsequently came under siege. The
Jerusalem Talmud relates that the numbers slain were enormous, that the Romans went on killing until
their horses were submerged in blood to their nostrils (Taanis 4:5). The Talmud also relates that for
seventeen years the Romans didnt allow the Jews to bury their dead in Betar.
o Daniel 12

10Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the
wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand. 11From the time that the
regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290
days. 12How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13But as for you,
go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the
end of the age.
Bar Khokhba and all Jews that have not had the veil lifted off their eyes until the time of the
gentiles is come are and were the true citizens of Israel though that generation had to suffer the
judgement caused by the leaders as we do and will today for I am sure not all Americans are part
of the union with Islam and of turning away from godliness as neither were all Jews of the
Lords day a part of what the leaders did. The Romans were as much a part of the crucifiction as
were the Jews anna and the scriptures also say that the nations He brought against Israel did
more that He wanted them to. The Romans were vile in nailing to the cross anyone they wanted
and sending the nations of slaves they conquered including Christians to the games to be
slaughtered and eaten by wild animals etc. The Jews were but a small number of many.
Of the Romans let me tell you about their end that they were so ignorant from using slaves all
their lives, in their demise lost even the knowledge of the use of coal and were consumed from
within by all their slaves. I am sure there are many who line the fires of hell and the Roman
empire lasted 500 years. This did not include the Roman Republic at its inception. Islams has
lasted 1400 years and have slaughtered more people than all the others put together and now
comes to judgement in our day and we would be foolish to think that many innocent will not
suffer with the violent in their demise.
Romans were wicked and the iron of Daniels statue but they are diminished in the clay weakened
by it the entire statue is destroyed in judgement and many innocent will suffer too as many
innocent died in the seige of Jerusalem to fullfil scripture.
Curiously Anna the Bishop Eusebius son of martyr Pamphilius worked hard to get Bishop
Alexander to restore Arius to the Council of whom the Arian controversies were created which
forced the bishops to write the Nicene code to direct the Christians in their teaching and keep
them from the heresy of the Arian. Arius who gave the name to this heresy, was a native of
Libya, but came to reside at Alexandria as a presbyter of the Church there.
According to the Arian view, Christ was to be esteemed neither truly divine nor truly human,
neither God nor man; but a being intermediate between the two, the first and most exalted of
creatures, who at the fulness of time assumed a human body for the sake of mans redemption.
Such a view as this had never been received in the Church with any favor, and indeed an exact
parallel is not to be found among the preceding heresies.
This best friend of this Arius is the same Eusebius that was a Bishop you speak of who was part
of this council that defended the same.
Constantine wanted peace and was begged to restore this Arius by Eusebius though he did not
believe in the deity and salvation of Christ presented by the Gospels and had almost succeeded
but Bishop Alexander fell in prayer to God to help them and to either remove him or Arius that
the Council of Nicene might succeed in setting forth the truth of scripture. That night the
formerly exccommunicated Arius died.
The history of Eusebius is curious indeed though you can read he was the son of martyr
Pamphilius in many places you also read he was his friends and his own church writings were
questionable at best because he cannot according to Caholic encyclopedia even give history a
correct census where his proper age is brought into question among other things.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05617b.htm
marie jean said this on September 20, 2012 at 3:33 am | Reply
68. Jeremiah 50:16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE
in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every
one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.
BABYLON = the HAMMER and SICKLE!
Carl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. enter
into mens minds and cast God down from his throne.
Matthew 12:30-32 (King James Version)
30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto
men.
32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven
him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven
him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Jeremiah 50:25-29 (King James Version)
25The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his
indignation: for this is the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the
Chaldeans.
26Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as
heaps, and destroy her utterly: let nothing of her be left.
27Slay all her bullocks; let them go down to the slaughter: woe unto them! for
their day is come, the time of their visitation.
28The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare
in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance of his temple.
29Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp
against it round about; let none thereof escape: recompense her according to her
work; according to all that she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been proud
against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.
2 Timothy 2:15 (King James Version)

15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be
ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and
sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.Roger Baldwin,
leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of
liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one
day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948,
co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
We cant expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but
we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism,
until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.Nikita Kruschev,
former Soviet Premier/dictator.
On January 22nd 1973 The high jacked U.S Supreme Court legalized unrestricted
abortions since that time over 50 million babies have been murdered, How can
this be a Christian Nation, how can you follow the commands of God Almighty and
allow this to continue? It is difficult for many people to accept the truth that
several of our nations top leaders have been members of the occultic Bohemian
Grove. George W. Bush is also a member of this occult organization. Since 1873,
the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of
Northern California. Members of the so-called Bohemian Club Include Former
Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong
Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male Club Don
Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a
Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the
Great Owl of Bohemia.
Leviticus 26
1Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing
image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto
it: for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:4
4Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your
God.
In ancient Babylon the priest sacrificed babies to their god baal, in America
the communist under their socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million
American babies to their god satan!
Deuteronomy 19:8-10 8 If the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as he
promised on oath to your forefathers, and gives you the whole land he promised
them, 9 because you carefully follow all these laws I command you todayto love
the LORD your God and to walk always in his waysthen you are to set aside three
more cities. 10 Do this so that INNOCENT BLOOD WILL NOT BE SHED IN YOUR LAND,
which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will
not be guilty of bloodshed. Leviticus 26:14-20 14 But if you will not listen
to me and carry out all these commands, 15 and if you reject my decrees and
abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands and so violate my covenant,
16 then I will do this to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting
diseases and fever that will destroy your sight and drain away your life. You
will plant seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it. 17 I will set my face
against you so that you will be defeated by your enemies; THOSE WHO HATE YOU
WILL RULE OVER YOU, and you will flee even when no one is pursuing you. 18 If
after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven
times over. 19 I will break down your stubborn pride and make the sky above you
like iron and the ground beneath you like bronze. 20 Your strength will be spent
in vain, because your soil will not yield its crops, nor will the trees of the
land yield their fruit.
I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly
direction. Barack Hussein Obama Audacity of Hope
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and
strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or
crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile
from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is
Allahs Apostle said: I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the
people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and
that Muhammad is Allahs Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the
obligatory charity, so if they perform at that, then they save their lives and
property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts)
will be done by Allah (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).
Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him (Bukhari Volume 9, Book
84, Number 57).
Or how about Mohammeds raping of his nine-year-old wife and justifying it by
saying Allah ordained it:
My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches
and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and
started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my
breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My
mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The
Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old
(Tabari 9:131).
Allahs Apostle told Aisha [his six-year-old bride and nine-year-old sexual
partner], You were shown to me twice in my dreams. I beheld a man or angel
carrying you in a silken cloth. He said to me, She is yours, so uncover her.
And behold, it was you. I would then say to myself, If this is from Allah, then
it must happen (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 139-140).
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United
States . Chinese missiles couldnt hit the side of a barn, notes Timothy W.
Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it
would likely miss their targets. Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any
city in the USA , using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with
dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads. China
probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy
equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work while the Chinese play
innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles
of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such
contingencies. We like your president. We want to see him re-elected, former
Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told China gate bagman Johnny Chung.
Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at
tilting the 1996 election Clinton s way. Clintons top campaign contributors
for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense
contractors selling missile technology to China . Clinton recieved funding
directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James
and Mochtar Riady, who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie;
Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others. Needless to say, China does not
share Clinton s enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out
for No. 1. War [with the United States ] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it,
said Chinese Defense Minister Gen. Chi Haotian in 2000. The issue is that the
Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war. By Richard Poe.
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Psalm 12:8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.
Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than
men.
5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
5:31 Him hath God exalted with His right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to
Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and [so is] also the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to
them that obey him.
1 Peter 4:17 For the time [is come] that Judgment must begin at the House of God: and if [it] first
[begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Ezekiel 33:4 then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not take warning and the sword comes and takes
his life, his blood will be on his own head.
Enforce Gods Laws. Carry-out His Judgments: arrest, prosecute, and execute all legislators who are
guilty of treason for refusing to obey God and failing to act on Gods warning.
NO KING BUT KING JESUS!
Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on searpents and scorpions, and over all of the power
of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

I will not fear.

Joshua 23:10
10 One man of you shall chase a thousand, for the LORD your God is He who fights for you, as He
promised you.
Jeremiah 50:16Cut off the sower from Babylon , and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of
BABYLON= the HAMMER and SICKLE !
Luke 22:35-36

Jeremiah 50:14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around, All you who bend the bow;
steve said this on September 26, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Reply
69. Watch out China!
Dani said this on November 3, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Reply
70. Chuck Missler seems to think that ASSYRIA; NATO; BILDERBERG; U.S. is the NEW ROMAN
EMPIRE.
Is anyone aware that a The Federal Reserve Is Holding A Conference On Jekyll Island To Celebrate 100
Years Of Dominating America?
http://www.businessinsider.com/fed-jekyll-island-club-2010-11#ixzz14SoUoZFx
Kittii Doherty said this on November 12, 2010 at 4:58 am | Reply
71. Kittii Doherty said this on November 12, 2010 at 4:59 am | Reply
72. In this series of videos you will notice at the beginning it says:
Persia (Iran) is the last head (4#) of Satan to be conquered by the United States, The New Roman
Empire. Read this interesting piece of information:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iran-announces-it-has-converted-15-its-100-billion-fx-reserves-gold
Iran Announces It Has Converted 15% Of Its $100 Billion+ In FX Reserves Into Gold
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 10/31/2010 19:06 -0500
International Monetary Fund Iran

As of today, one of the worlds top oil exporters disclosed that it has exchanged about $15 billion of its
FX reserves into gold. Earlier, Iran announced that the country has converted about 15% of its foreign
exchange reserves into gold, and will not need to import the metal for the next ten years. There is your
mystery buyer to all that gold the IMF was selling in Q3 And since Ahmadinejad said that Irans total
FX reserves exceed $100 billion, the amount of gold in stock held by Iran is more than $15 billion.
Which is equivalent more than 345 tonnes at a closing price of about $1350. Which also means that the
WGCs official gold holdings are in dire need of an update, as Iran does not appear anywhere on the
IMFs listing of official gold holders, and with over 345 tonnes, it would make Iran a top 15 holder of
the yellow metal.
From Bloomberg:
Iran has changed some 15 percent of its foreign exchange reserves into gold and will not need to import
the metal for the next ten years, Mehr reported, citing Central Bank Governor Mahmoud Bahmani.
Irans gold reserves have multiplied several times in the past two years, Bahmani said in a report
published late yesterday by the state-run news agency.
Bahmani gave no specific figures, only saying the country consumes 30 tons of gold a year and that the
central bank will have ample supplies for the next 10 years even if it doesnt increase its gold holdings
further.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said yesterday his countrys foreign exchange reserves exceed
$100 billion.
73. Marianne;
my mistake, I meant to post it over here:
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/is-the-beast-rome/
Can you move the post or remove it? I can repost it.
74. The first reply was the best, with the article, BABYLON THE GREAT. When looking for who to trust I
go by: 1. Do they directly quote scripture or present known facts for each key point of their theory. 2.
Do they make their point clearly, actually saying a cohesive thought, and not just quoting scripture or
going off on unrelated tangents. 3. Are they humble and reasonable, showing some ability to be wrong
and listen to new facts that might be presented by others, when nobody but God knows for certain.
I listened to all the arguments for years about where the real Babylon of Revelations is and have yet to
see anything that disproves or causes serious doubt that my first realization about this was correct: It is
America, even my own people, and even my own home town, Los Angeles, the worlds largest producer
of pornography and other deadly lies of Hollywood broadcast throughout the world.
Without getting into the full report, I will state the one thing I believe makes this incontrovertible:
(America is the Babylon described in [Revelation 17:1] the great whore that sitteth upon many
waters: No other nation in these end times fits that description, with military power based throughout
the globe. Not even close. Its that simple.
Rick Bruce said this on December 29, 2010 at 6:54 pm | Reply
75. Hi! I just want to say thank you so much for publishing this. Ive been living in the M.E. now for almost
4 years and youre spot on. Walid Shoebat wrote a very interesting book called, Gods War on Terror
and pointed out different facts but the same conclusion that Babylon is still Babylon.
Thanks God for the Holy Spirit and saints who are willing to listen.
Keep up the good work and pursue love and righteousness sister.
God bless!
Timithia Miller said this on February 15, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Reply
o hi Timithia
Thank you for your thank you. I am familiar with Walid, and hav emet him.
His Gods War on Terror book came after my post with the same name a year or so earlier.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/god%E2%80%99s-war-on-terror%E2%80%A6-the-200-
million-man-army/
I wonder if the content is the same. If not, I think he got his title from me.
Sigh. Doesnt matter now. This world is going downhill fast. All we can do is pray to God for
forgiveness and protection.
76. You have to concentrate on the prophecy criteria of Rev 17 and Rev 18 and there is no other nation that
the prophecy fits but the USA. In addition, the USA as 85% of the worldwide New Age markets
products that as led many astray.
Eliakim said this on April 3, 2011 at 5:54 am | Reply
77. Revelation 18
http://academysounds.blogspot.com/2009/08/revelation-18-usa.html
Revelation 17
http://academysounds.blogspot.com/2009/08/revelation-17-usa.html
Unmerciful Servants God is calling in the debt

http://academysounds.blogspot.com/2009/07/unmerciful-servants-god-is-calling-in.html
Eliakim said this on April 3, 2011 at 5:58 am | Reply

78. There is a smorgasboard of intrepretations concerning Babylon but we need to adhere to Biblical
principals that God himself gave us when it comes to understanding His Word.
God himself has provided the means for determining truth but we do not hear this from the pulpit or in
the SS classrooms. If what you are being taught does not stand the test of truth, then we must denounce
false teaching and embrace established truth.
Isaiah, the prophet, said To the law and the testimony (Moses and the Prophets); if they do not speak
according to this word, they have no light of dawn. Isaiah 8:20
The law and the testimony are both Gods word, they are truth, and they are bound and sealed among
Gods true people. Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the
LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Paul wrote, Every matter must be established by the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses. 2 Cor 13:1
Paul also testified before King Agrippa that he said nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said.
Moses said, Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict a man accused of any crime or
offense he may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three
witnesses.
So the above is an example of truth proven by 2 witnesses: one from the Old Testament and one from
the New .
We must not make the mistake of taking a sentence or two out of context to prove a doctrine. If it is not
proven by the law and the testimony found in Moses and the Prophets what is known as the Old
Testatment then the intrepretation is wrong.
We also cannot intrepret scripture according to modern day understanding as most of the bible was
written in signs and symbols. Please read Isaiah 8:18 to grasp the meaning of what, or rather who, is
meant by signs and symbols.
Here am I, and the children the LORD has given me. We are signs and symbols in Israel from the
LORD Almighty, who dwells on Mount Zion. Paul quotes this text in Hebrews 2:13 as a reference to
the Messiah, Here am I, and the children God has given me.
By signs and wonders/symbols, it is meant that they, by the names given them, were intended to teach
important lessons to the Jewish people. Their names were significant, and were designed to illustrate
some important truth; and especially the prophet here intimates that they were to inculcate the truth in
regard to the presence and protection of God, to induce the people to look to him. Thus the name
Immanuel, God with us, Isaiah 7:14; and Shear-jashub, the remnant shall return, Isaiah 7:3, were
both significant of the fact that none but God could be the protector of the nation. And in like manner, it
is possible that his own name, signifying the salvation of YHWH, had been given him with such a
reference. But at all events, it was a name which would remind them of the truth that he was now
inculcating, that salvation was to be found in Yahweh, and that they should look to him. Names of
children were often thus emblematic (see Hosea 1:1-11); and the prophets themselves were regarded as
signs of important events; Ezekiel 24:24; compare the note at Isaiah 20:3.
John the Revelator wrote with the same symbolic language that Moses and the prophets used.
What gospel did Jesus, the apostles and disciples preach?
The kingdom of God is near.
In order for the Kingdom of God to come down to man the Old Covenant Kingdom had to be destroyed.
Do you know that the temple was called heaven and earth under the Old Covenant?
Now, I ask you this question: Would a loving God be the author of confusion (Babylon) or would man,
inspired by Satan, twist all the facts and make it appear that God was withholding something good from
mankind, as he did in the Garden of Eden?
Revelation is a revealing, an unveiling of the Old Covenant propecy. It was written while the temple was
still standing. It was written to bondservants as stated in verse 1. The Old Covenant people were these
bondservants, sold into slavery under the law, till their redeemer, who had to be their kinsman, bought
them back (restored them to God).
The city is just that, a city. Not a nation or a country.
To clear up this Babylon of confusion read Who Is This Babylon by Don Preston.
anna said this on April 3, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Reply
79. I think sometimes the best place to hide something is right in front of you. Rev is about taking the lid
off. If we do look right in front of us about Babylon we will see that Babylon is Babylon, not Rome Not
Washington. By the way America is not a city. If we look again in front of our face, (the answers)
Babylon is the Mother of all Harlots, If she herself is a woman, City, then her daughters would be
women, cities, so who are her daughters? Rome, London, Washington, Beijing, Please fill in the blanks.
And what do these cities do, they have sex with the kings of the earth, they are harlots, OK, now, I
forget where the bible says this but it says something about being part of a harlot if you have sex with
her/become one with her.
Was it not the great whore that ancient City said in her heart, come let us build a city/together we can do
what ever we dream together, It wasnt with God they wanted to come together, it was with that mother
of all harlots, BABYLON. Was it not God who nipped it in the bud, and confused them with different
tongues and separated them/ make them part from each other because they did not understand one
another. So much for coming together. Babylon wasnt confused about anything. God confused them.
They apposed God, Bricks with waterproof stuff in them? Wheres the trust? Tower so high it would go
into the clouds where the water could not get them. Talk about unbelievers. Apparently that same spirit
was at work again as to why God destroyed the earth by water. Yes that spirit was Lucifer who has from
the beginning wanted to build his kingdom above the kingdom of God. But like the people of old before
the flood, they and Lucifer want to sit as a queen, dont wanna be poor, a widow. I will prostitute myself
if I have to, by hook or crook I will ascend, and not fall. The message of that great whore is come on
lets come together, lets build a city, doesnt matter what you believe or trust in, you can even trust in
and believe in the real God, lets have peace and safety, stop all this fighting about who is right and who
is wrong, Doesnt matter, lets become one.N.W.O. anyone? Sounds great doesnt it. Let all come
together right now, over me. Beatles? Were the saint of old in Babylon? Yes, a type of the saints that are
now in Babylon. What is Gods message. Be separate, be different, Be Holy, dont do as your neighbors,
(other nations do) Be a Holy Nation. come out of her. Her? BABYLON Come out of her my people,
touch not the unclean thing, dont get dirt on your Garments, if you do wash, wash, with repentance. If
not you will go down with BABYLON when God brings her down for the final time because you are in
her having sex, drinking the wine of her fornications. Satan the brain trust of the BABYLON says Lets
all be one, you can do anything you want to be, just dream it. God says to separate yourself from
Harlotry, be a virgin not a whore, and you will rule the nations with me.
Lanny Lacey said this on April 17, 2011 at 4:42 am | Reply
o Hi Lanny,
I think sometimes the best place to hide something is right in front of you.
*absolutely! too many theologians complicate the scriptures by saying it doesnt mean this it
means that or it might mean this
I have noticed that when G-d used a lot of metaphors He sent an angel to explain them!
What is Gods message. Be separate, be different, Be Holy, dont do as your neighbors, (other
nations do) Be a Holy Nation. come out of her.
* I totally agree!
lyndsey said this on April 17, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Reply
80. Every went around the house looking for you glasses and they were on your forhead?
Lan said this on April 19, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Reply
81. The Harlot is the Anient city Babylon, Mother of Harlots, These other Cities do play the Harlot, but
maybe they just grew up and became just like their Mother.I do know that The Roman Catholic Church
built a temple in honor of Babylon. I also know that Shanghai,China built a small scale city of Babylon
at the expo 2010 and praised it as a role model city. The theme of the World Expo was Better city
better world or life I think,looks to me like the world wants a city that is like heaven on Earth. They
want to clean up the air, plant trees, police the world. Come together to control the earth so it will be a
kinder and gentler place. I agree with them there should be a One world Government. I say let them
build those Kingdoms, after all, those kingdoms will be given to the saints when Jesus comes back.
Their always has to be a motive or a reward right? I am not one of those that say dont come Lord Jesus,
I am with John, even so come. I just want to make such I stand for Jesus and not fall with Babylon.
Lan said this on April 19, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Reply
o hi Lan
So, from what I understand you to say, Babylon, named after a city where it started, is a world
system. I would agree with that.
The gold and silver standards of currency are based on Babylonian currencies.
When that fails, the entire world economic system will collapse.
82. It is what it is, unless it isnt. Maybe the Harlot is Rome, maybe America (Washington) is the whore and
China, Iran, and Russia will take her down. Maybe Babylon Is Babylon. Like you say some things need
to be taken spiritually and not physically. I really believe if you take a lot of things literally in Rev. your
making a big mistake. But what do I know? I am just watching and listening and yes sometimes talking.
My disclaimer is however I may not know what I am talking about, and just because you agree with me
doesnt make it true either. This dark glass is hard to get a good look at things. I listen to a lot of guys
talk and usually find out sooner or later that they dont know what they are talking about either. There
just doesnt seem to be anyone who knows what they are talking about, i THINK A LOT OF THIS IS
Caused BY miss information. faulty data. Confusion, your stuff has to be correct to understand the truth
of a matter. If you have four witnesses and listen to all four, you will be confused if they all dont say
the same thing. Our Lord is coming back because of all the confusion Satan has caused. We all need
someone to help us. Jesus is our Man, our only hope. Will we be worthy to stand before the son of man
or will we go down in Babylon.
Lanny Lacey said this on April 20, 2011 at 12:49 am | Reply
83. Hey Guys just stop fighting each other because in your comment you dnt place the love of Jesus Christ
and you dnt take the Bible as the word of God or Divine but want to prove yourself to be right in what
you think and believe..please let the word of God interpret itself.but please dont point from your
own understanding.peacelet the word of God flow from all of you with love but not with hatred
.cause Jesus came to show love.not hate.so preach HIm everyday.
Pynhun Bareh said this on September 3, 2011 at 6:09 am | Reply
o dear pynhun
Thank you for your concern.
It may appear people are fighting but they are just debating the topic.
May God bless you for your love for Jesus.
84. I would like to enter a comment Babylon is Babylon, Rome is Rome, America is America. Literaly
thats what they are. However consider this. If you are in Babylon you need to come out. If it means
literally to come out of Babylon then all you have to do is come out of her literally. But you need to be
literally in her to come out, right? What I am saying is this and it may sound confusing. Babylon is not
Babylon. It is smbolic of a spirual place that you (my people) are in. Are you literally in Babylon? No
you are not. Are you in a spiritual Babylon. Probally. You make the call. If you are in then come out. If
you are not in then dont worry about it. You can be in Babylon in America, you can be in Babylon in
Rome. You also can be in Babylon and not be in Babylon. Ni ming Bai ma?
Lan said this on September 3, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Reply
o hi Lan
I agree with you.
I also think that there is a physical Babylon and a spiritual one.
Each one will fulfill its own role in prophecy.

85. Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way
she treated you.' Rev 18:20
Who prosecuted the saints, apostles and prophets? Therein lies the answer to the identity of Babylon.
No prophet can die outside Jerusalem. Luke 13:33

Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and
crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. Matthew 23:24
Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not
finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Jeremiah 26:8 But as soon as Jeremiah finished telling all the people everything the LORD had
commanded him to say, the priests, the prophets and all the people seized him and said, You must die!
2 Chronicles 24:21 But they plotted against him, and by order of the king they stoned him to death in the
courtyard of the LORDs temple.
86. America still traffics in underground human slavery. It saddens me when people state things as facts
without doing the research
jaquelyn said this on November 6, 2011 at 4:49 am | Reply
o hi jaquelyn
I agree with you. I first wrote this post thinking slavery was only overseas.but it occurs in
America as well,it is just more cloaked.
87. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. By 1987 that figure had risen to
61,911,000.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952 10,076,000 political dissidents, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated in Kuomintang China, and by 1987 another
35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.
GUN CONTROL WORKS ask the experts: Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that
hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36 Jesus Christ
Out of the six men who led the BolshevikRevolution in Russia, five or them were Khazar Jews. Carl
Marxs real name was Mordaci, and he himself descended from a long line of Pharisees. ( NoteCarl
Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, the blueprint for world domination ). No wonder, that Jesus said
to the Talmudists, or Pharisees, Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father , ye will do,
he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
(John 8:44).
Again, I know the blasphemy, of them that say they are Jews, and are not, but are of The Synagogue of
Satan (Rev. 2:9)
Carl Marx My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.
Carl Marx, once wrote that, the

goal of the Communists was to quote,. enter into mens minds and cast God down from his thrown.
Our media and government no longer exist they are all anti God anti American communist.
Just about every government in the world has been replaced either openly or secretly by communist.
If you know the enemy and know yourself and place your faith in God and follow his battle plan you
need not worry.
The Bible identifies these world ruling tyrants as Babylon.
Jeremiah 50:16, 23 further identify Babylon as the hammer and sickle.
Jeremiah 50:14 and basically that whole chapter and in Revelations God commands us to destroy
Babylon.
Very soon these commie cowards are going to set the stage for this to happen. What they did to Their
own people in 1917 Russia they will soon do world wide.
Jesus said
If you dont have a sword to sell your coat and buy one (Luke 22:36)
Jesus also said that there is one sin that will never be forgiven (Mathew 12:31) Karl Marx said
committing that sin is the goal of the communist.
(the goal of the communist is to enter mens minds and cast God down from his thrown)
slaughter.- George Washington
Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
In ancient Babylon their economy was based on usury.
If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge
him no interest. Exodus 22:25
Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done
all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13
Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can print and coin
money!
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was slipped thru congress during the Christmas break with the
majority of its members absent.
The Federal Reserve is self serving and privately owned in violation to the Constitution, charging
interest on illegally printed money. Money printed from nothing!
In America On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was
signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the
United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that
the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. Five months later A UNITED
STATES PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY was MURDERED BY COMMUNIST!
In ancient Babylon their priest sacrificed babies to their gods baal, and molech.
In America the communist under their socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million American
babies to their god satan!
Leviticus 20:2-5
2Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel , Whosoever he be of the children of Israel , or of the
strangers that sojourn in Israel , that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death:
the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
3And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath
given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
4And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed
unto Molech, and kill him not:
5Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a
whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.
Luke 22:35-36 Then Jesus asked them, When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack
also a bag; and if you dont have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
Jeremiah 50:14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around, All you who bend the bow; Shoot
at her, spare no arrows, For she has sinned against the LORD.
All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them. Psalm 118:10
The thing that separates the American Christian from every other person on earth is the fact that he
would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!
George Washington
The Bible says that Babylon will be thrown down with great violence (Revelation 18:21)
John 7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews
sought to kill him.
Steve said this on December 2, 2011 at 1:51 am | Reply
88. The scriptures are literal and not too be taken symbolically, even in the days of jesus they did not believe
it was him because they where interpreting the scriptures symbolically. Babylon will actually be babylon
and she will fall once from her enemys then again from god and completeley destroyed. It is so clear
who the harlot is and god does want us to undersatnd everythin written in the scriptures, if not he
wouldnt of had them written and would have left us without instruction. remember revelation is a
revealing of somthing before its time, so that means literally god has not yet called his people out of
babylon the great, he will however call them out when it is the appointed time. None of revelation has
actually happened yet, although i do believe that we are living in the birth pangs of the final stages of the
end my dear friends. I do not claim too know everthing however i am only a student myself too the truth
revealed through gods chosen people who are a make up of the whole scriptures. This world is
absaloutly histercal because of unstable interpretation, i know because i have been a victim of it for
many years, for those claiming too knowing the truth in greater and explicit detail. I am ready too take
undiluted and strong unadulterated truth too the world for what it may cost. God Bless and may our
hearts and eyes and ears be opened too the greater truth.
kathleen simmonds said this on August 4, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Reply
o hi kathleen
I am glad someone agrees with me. many think that babylon is either the catholic church, or
america, or the illuminati.
I think they are all involved in end time evil, as well as other groups, but I think babylon is the
original one.
The only thing I can think to explain different views is that there is a natural bablyon, and a
mystery babylon.

True, True!
marie jean said this on September 20, 2012 at 4:13 am | Reply
89. I am CHALDEAN from Iraq, Chaldean were people of Babylon .do not worry dear we have no power
now over any thins we are been killed, tortured , kicked out of our homes cause we carry Jesus Christs
name, we are all catholic and we presented many many martyrs since the american invasion of d Iraq
which unfortunately and mistakenly the Muslims of Iraq thought they are Christians. (which in my
opinion is the most unreal thing in the world)..so they started chasing us to take revenge but we still
carry our cross every day and pray for peace for Iraq first and the world secondwhich we might not
see in our life time, so these are the Babylonians (Chaldean) nowadays .so enough of your fantasies
and mistaken conclusions.
The Chaldean said this on September 9, 2012 at 6:02 am | Reply
90. If you are truly serious about finding truth here, there are a few other things being left out of your search
equation. Babylon was to never be rebuilt according to prophesy. (EZEK 26:7-14) Alexander the great
scoffed at this and decided to make it his capitol city after conquering the world. After making his
decision, he was struck with malaria and died. His troops, already gone from their families for years, and
whose pockets were full, left for home, and his kingdome was divided by 4 generals. Yes PHYSICAL
Babylon would never be repopulated. Sadaam Huesaen also sought to rebuild as an attraction we know
what happened just months after that decision. The decision is final.
However in answer to the prophesy, there is a dwelling on a few of the Revelation account terms, but a
total blinding to others. You see, its very hard to look through binoculars and to see yourself. Look at
Revelation 18:23 again and find the location. No sound of a bride and bridegroom will ever be heard in
her again yes its not to hard to figure it out. Look at where people get married in churches in
ornate buildings where craftsman create beautiful structures, and where merchants make sizeable profits
selling there wares. Are the words right under your nose, and not visible? Already being abandoned as
the waters surrounding them (Their congregations) abandon them, and they sit looking like the desolate
Babylon today birds flying up in the rafters as they sit empty with broken windows.
And what about the biggest clue Spiritistic practices what is spritistic? Spiritistic is of a spiritual
nature, but in regards to unacceptable forms of worship. Once Christendom became a part of the world,
entering and endorsing political parties, blessing war, and having Catholic kill Catholic, and protestant
kill protestant, is set itself aside from God, showing its true nature, as a harlot, lowering her spiritual
value, ceasing to hold on to her chastity, selling herself to the highest bidder, and now the Harlot will
become devastated and naked exposed for all she has done, from pedophile clergy, to stock holders of
the worlds defense contractors, making land mines that look like toys, making tax free profits from the
porn industry.
Yes on the surface, she appears all pretty and nice, but deep inside, she is responsible for the blood of
innocent victims.
This is the Babylon you are seeking clues to the identity to, but this is the Babylon, that God tells the
readers of (Revelation 18:4-8) . . .Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in
her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together
clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself
rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which
she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and
lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps
saying, I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning. 8 That is why in one day her
plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire,
because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
Now, hopefully you can find the answer you seek, and better yet, if you are sincere, can act on the words
of the prophesy you should now be able to see, and locate the people sharing the truth about our times.
Those growing, while the waters of Babylon (the supporters of Christendom not Christianity) dry up
The Leaders of Israel were sent prophets to get their attention, when they went astray in their thinking.
They killed or tried to kill them, because they didnt want to hear their words. Isaiah was actually sawn
in two alive. How you react is in your own hands.
Check the facts, but make your decision soon, the time left is very short
Mike
Mike said this on September 19, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Reply
o hi mike
I agree that there is a spiritual babylon as well as a physical one. the spiritual one is more
dangerous.
91. I do not know why Christians have a tendency to refer to Babylon of scripture as a city when it was an
Empire that like its other comrades in Empires scattered Israel when God judged them and would
crumble together with them and all of the earth of empires and nations that have come out of them today
as the statue of Daniel shows so that the simplest of hearts might understand and the crumbling feet of
clay and iron which is the earth today is clear as the words of Daniel is clear that Babylon (Islam} is
named as the first to be struck and all falls as Ezekiel 38 and 39 show us.
Curiously enough Bel Marduk is the Babylonian god worshipped by Nuebuchadnezzar which was Bel or
Zeus and Jupiter the star and dating from the reign of Nebuchadrezzar I (112403 bce), relates Marduks
rise to such preeminence that he was the god of 50 names, each one that of a deity or of a divine
attribute. After conquering the monster of primeval chaos, Tiamat, he became Lord of the Gods of
Heaven and Earth. All nature, including man, owed its existence to him; the destiny of kingdoms and
subjects was in his hands. Worshipped by Persia and Assyria and Rome..Sounds like Satan and Islam
etc.
Marduk rose from an obscure deity in the third millennium BCE to become one of the most important
gods and the head of the Mesopotamian pantheon in the first millennium. He was the patron god of the
city of Babylon, where his temple tower, the ziggurat TT Etemenanki (Temple (that is) the foundation
of the heavens and the earth) served as the model for the famous tower of Babel. In the first
millennium, he was often referred to as Bl, the Akkadian word for Lord.
Considering these facts one cannot help but see the relationship of the above on the earth today and it is
not only America but all the continents and their various gods that have come from the tower of babel
worship of Marduk who the gods Anu and Enil (Hammurabi mentions) who determined that Marduk
would receive the Enlil-ship (stewardship) of all the people, and with this elevated him into the
highest echelons of the Mesopotamian pantheon.
Sounds like what Satan thinks he has, the stewardship of earth
I rather suspect that the Bablyon of scripture is the Empire it was only it is Islam today and the united
fall of the statue of Daniel incorporates the rest of the Empires including the the clay and iron which
incorporates all the nations that came out of the rest today and to which Liberals love to refer to the our
countries as multi-culture though none of it shall adhere and hold the global statue up, no doubt!
92. This is not the complete list; it was taken from the 45 Communist goals that found their way down the
halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional RecordAppendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current
strength.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist
propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
(Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed
an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.)
the common man.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
In ancient Hebrew the word for lightning is barack, the word for heaven or the
heights is bama and to connect the words either an a or an o is used.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away
first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can print and coin
money!
Our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. (But vetoed a raise for those on Social Security) A
member of Congress only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than
$15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. If some one in the military
stays in for 20 years (providing that they are not killed in combat before that) and gets out as an E-7,
they may receive a pension of $2,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harms way
receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
The debt added by the previous 43 U.S. Presidents from 1789 through 2002 combined was
$6.3 trillion
The debt added by Obama is

$6.5 trillion
Leviticus 20:2-5
I dont believe people should be able to own guns. Barack Hussein Obama
Jeremiah 50:14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around, All you who bend the bow; Shoot
at her, spare no arrows, For she has sinned against the LORD.
would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!. George Washington
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.
Jeremiah 48: 10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth
Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea,
saying , Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down , and shall be found no more at
all.
Steve said this on October 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
93. America (or at least part of it) is Babylon from Revelation and I will give you undoubtedly the proof.
First of all, you have to realize that a few things have not completely happened yet. The last part about
the blood of prophets and the saints is referring to after the Rapture and during the Tribulation.
Secondly, you fail to read the scripture right. You started with Rev. 18: 12, but instead you should have
started with verse 11. It says The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one
buys THEIR cargoes anymore. This means that Babylon (America) has been the purchaser not the seller
from all of the merchants. A merchant is a seller not the purchaser which is the buyer.
Thirdly, I cant imagine that any other country in the entire would would be mourned over if they were
gone.
Fourthly, Revelations talks about Babylon having deep sea ports.

Babylon has a deep water port. Rev 18:17 And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and
sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning,
saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Geographic Babylon (modern day Iraq) has no deep water port, so this Babylon in Revelation must be
different from ancient Babylon.
Fifth, You have NO clue of all of the evil that is going on in America. There is so much evil going on
with men playing God, you would be horrified, mortified and disgustified (if that were a word) if you
only knew. You have absolutely NO CLUE! And I cant go into any of that detail.
Now one more thing, before I lay out all of the evidence. When the Bible speaks of Jerusalem, part of
the time is referring to just Jerusalem and then other times, Jerusalem and Israel are refereed as one. So
with the evidence that I am about to give to you, it may refer to a city, however, I really thin that it
means America as a whole.
And here is the evidence. Hope you can handle it.

1) Babylon has a deep water port. Rev 18:17 And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and
sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning,
saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Geographic Babylon (modern day Iraq) has no deep water port, so this Babylon in Revelation must be
different from ancient Babylon.
2) Babylon has Gods people within it. Is 47:6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine
inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou
very heavily laid thy yoke.
But:
3) Gods heritage has been destroyed. Jer 50:11 Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye
destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls;
4) Gods people have been led astray by false shepherds. Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their
shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone
from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place.
5) Gods people are swallowed up in a false religious system. Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in
Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall
not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
6) Geographically Babylon sits upon many waters. Jer 51:13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters,
abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness.
7) And is abundant in natural resources. Jer 51:13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in
treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness.
8 ) The people of Babylon are a mingled people. Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven,
and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith
the LORD.
9) They are a proud people. Jer 50:31-32 Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, saith the Lord
GOD of hosts: for thy day is come, the time that I will visit thee. And the most proud shall stumble and
fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it shall devour all round about
him.
10) They feel they are invincible. Is 47:8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that
dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow,
neither shall I know the loss of children:
11) They are a people of seemingly great wisdom & knowledge. Is 47:10 For thou hast trusted in thy
wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and
thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
12) They are filled with graven images and idols. Jer 50:38 A drought is upon her waters; and they shall
be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols.
13) They have many astrologers, sorcerers and monthly prognosticators. Is 47:13 hou art wearied in the
multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up,
and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14) Babylon is described as the hammer of the whole earth. Jer 50:23 How is the hammer of the whole
earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
15) Babylon uses the eagle as a national symbol. Dan 7:4,he first was like a lion, and had eagles wings:
I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the
feet as a man, and a mans heart was given to it. Ezek 17:3, 12 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A
great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto
Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar: (12) Say now to the rebellious house, Know ye not
what these things mean? tell them, Behold, the king of Babylon is come to Jerusalem, and hath taken the
king thereof, and the princes thereof, and led them with him to Babylon;
16)Babylons mother was the lion (England). Jer 51:38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell
as lions whelps.
17) Babylon is a destroying mountain. Jer 51:25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain,
saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee
down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
18) It is full of mighty men & men of war. Jer 51:30 & 32 he mighty men of Babylon have forborn to
fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have
burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken. (32) And that the passages are stopped, and the reeds
they have burned with fire, and the men of war are affrighted.
19) Babylon even has a space program. Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and
though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the
LORD.
20) Babylon is the greatest merchant nation on the earth. Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the
wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and
the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
21) All the nations of the earth do business with her. Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall
weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
22) Babylon trades in every type of commodity. Rev 18:12-13 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and
precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and
all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and
marble, And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour,
and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
At the time of her destruction:
23) Babylons people are drunken and asleep. Jer 51:39 & 57 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I
will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the
LORD. (57) And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her
mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the
LORD of hosts.
24) She is filled with traitors. Jer 51:2 & 14 And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and
shall empty her land: for in the day of trouble they shall be against her round about. (14) The LORD of
hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall
lift up a shout against thee.
25) They dwell without care. Is 47:8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that
dwellest carelessly,
26) They dont realize they are Babylon. Jer 50:24 I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O
Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the
LORD. & Is 47:8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that
sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the
loss of children:
27) Babylon has oppressed Israel. Jer 50:33 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and
the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they
refused to let them go.
28) Babylon has caused the slain of Israel to fall. Jer 51:49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to
fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.
If this isnt convincing enough, well here is the hammer in the coffin for ya.
http://www.awakeawareandpartofthesolution.com/blog/2012/09/05/The-Idols-Of-America-The-Statue-
of-Liberty.aspx
Pam said this on November 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Reply
o I can see what you are trying to do, but the scriptures from Jeremiah and Isaiah were actually
talking about the Babylon in modern day Iraq.and all that came to pass.
It would be better to stick to new testament scriptures.
your conclusion would then be better supported.
I agree about Mystery babylon being the buyer rather than the seller.
You did not check out the link, did you?
yes I did. we do not worship the statue of liberty as a goddess
I have really looked at america as babylon, and I am working on a spreadsheet

where I compare the characteristics listed in revelation 17-18 with america and
other candidates.
so far, no one is 100% match.
Your missing it, honey. It is a perfect match and look at verse 18 of

chapter 17.
And then woman that you saw is herself the great city which demonstrates
and CONTROLS the rulers and the leaders of the world.
Google: Where are the UN Headquarters
Okay, so for arguments sake, lets just focus on the scriptures in

Revelation, since you don;t want me to use the Old Testament.
Here they are:

20) Babylon is the greatest purchaser nation on the earth. Rev 18:3
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her
fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication
with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the
abundance of her delicacies.
This should have been purchaser instead of merchant. America

buys from all nations. Is there any other country in the entire world
that EVERY other nation buys from? NO! Is there any other
country that is as rich as her? NO! 50% of the worlds money is in
New York. The other 50% is spread around the rest of the world.
21) All the nations of the earth do business with her. Rev 18:11
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for
no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
If any other country was completely destroyed, would ALL nations

mourn? NO! Okay, so you argue that the Old Babylon is who
Revelation is talking about. Okay, Does it exist today? NO! If it
were Iraq, would all nations mourn? NO! We want to help destroy
them. If it was Rome, would all nations mourn, No, though some
people may be upset that the Pope was gone but all nations would
not mourn. Not to mention, that neither Rome nor Iraq sit on many
waters, nor do they have the Sea Ports that we have. Neither none
of them purchase from all nations either.
22) Babylon trades in every type of commodity. Rev 18:12-13 The

merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls,
and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine
wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of
most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, And
cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine,
and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and
horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
Does any other nation trade in every commodity? Not that I know
of but there is no other country, with the exception of Israel has
ALL of these. they are purchased from many different countries,
and America buys from everyone. Evey country has something on
this list and may have a few of these items but not ALL. Only
America!
I can see NYC as the city possibly.
but the beast is a kingdom, not a personaccording to Daniel
So who is the kingdom here?
94. One more bit of information: There is Babylon, New York that is layed out like the old Babylon. Google
it!
However, I dont think that it applies to this city exclusively.
95. I really think the mystery is she ( Babylon) is a Mother. Mother of Harlots. So who would be her
daughters. Each kind produces its kind. So a city would produce a city. So who are the daughters of
their Mother Babylon. Like mother like daughter. I will name a few, Rome, New York, Whats the name
of that city over their in Saudi Arabia? Bai something. What a whore that one is. Never seen such wealth
as that city. They gotta be have sex with quit a few Kings of the earth to get that rich. Its all not literal
you know. Cities and kings are not really having sex with each other, and there is no real harlot riding a
beast. Its spiritual. Symbolic, Trade, money, merchants, ships in the sea, those are not symbolic, they
are real literal things,Babylon is symbolic for trade, the jewelry is symbolic of money. The ships are
symbolic of sex. Disclaimer here. I may not know what I am talking about. If you understood what I
said, call me. he he
Lan said this on November 25, 2012 at 3:21 am | Reply
o You obviously did not read my post or your eyes would be opened. Check out my post and link
above.
96. The answer to the whole mystery is found in Revelation 17:18

The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.
Where is the United Nations (the kings of the world) Headquarters located? In New York! New York is
the Prostitute and check out verse 16
The beast (who do you think that this is?) and the 10 horns (the 10 kings of the kingdoms of the world)
you saw will HATE the prostitute.
They will bring her to ruin, (sound like someone you already know?) and leave her naked; they will eat
her flesh and burn her with fire.
Verse 17
For God has put into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to
rule, until Gods words are fulfilled.
Daniel 12: 9-10 says
Go your way Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. Many will be
purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will
understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Pam said this on November 27, 2012 at 5:59 am | Reply
o I can see the city as New York, if it is seen as the site of the United Nations.
But then I would see the beast as an international force, or one that represented a group of
nations, and not America itself. The nations that I would see as the beast are Islamic ones, since
they are dedicated to the destruction of Israel AND America.
Originally, I assumed if the beast was Islamic, then the city had to be Islamic also. But maybe
not. Islam wants NYC destroyed ASAP along with other large American cities, to destroy this
country so it will not help Israel.
The beast will come as a copycat of Jesus. That is why so many will be deceived. They
will think him as Messiah.
Check this out!
Her King and the 10 horns will hate her Rev 17:16-17 And the 10 horns that you saw,
they and the beast will (be the very ones to) hate her (the idolatrous woman); they will
make her cheerless (bereaved, desolate), and they will strip her and eat up her flesh and
utterly consume her with fire. (17) For God has put into their hearts to carry out His own
purpose by acting in harmony in surrendering their royal power and authority to the
beast, until the prophetic words (intentions and promises) of God shall be fulfilled.
When you see it, you dont need to comment.
The beast is the Antichrist. There is only one time in the Bible that he is referred
to this. All of the other verses refer to him as the beast, the unlawful one, the
Lawless one, the King who exults himself above God and all others, who does as
he pleases, who does not regard the belief or faith of his forefathers. Need I go
on?
And again, I reiterate, that he comes in as a copycat of Jesus.
I need to correct myself. The beast and the Antichrist are definitely not the
same. I was wrong on this. God showed me that I was wrong and I wanted
to correct myself on this.
Pam said this on December 6, 2012 at 5:59 am | Reply
The Antichrist comes as the copycat. The beast and the Antichrist are not the
same thing.
Pam said this on December 6, 2012 at 6:01 am | Reply
the antichrist is the fierce leader mentioned in daniel
the beast is a kingdom of the end times, not a person
Marianne said this on December 6, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
97. The prophet Zechariah witnessed the removal of the demonic spiritual force that once inspired the
ancient nation of Babylon. This woman was placed in a basket and Zechariah was told that she was
being taken away to a new land where Babylon would again re-emerge.
Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, Look up and see what this is that
is appearing. I asked, What is it? He replied, It is a measuring basket. And he added, This is the
iniquity of the people throughout the land. Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat
a woman! He said, This is wickedness, and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed the lead
cover down over its mouth. Then I looked upand there before me were two women, with the wind in
their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and
earth. Where are they taking the basket? I asked the angel who was speaking to me. He replied, To
the country of Babylonia to build a house for it. When it is ready, the basket will be set there in its
place. Zechariah 5:5-11
On October 28th, 1886, President Grover Cleveland accepted the Statue of Liberty on behalf of the
United States. In the ceremony which celebrated the unveiling of this ancient pagan deity, he spoke
these words,
We will not forget that Liberty has here made her home;
nor shall her chosen altar be neglected.

98. Very interesting articles. Thanks for your anti-doctrinal character on prophetic interpretations. Christians
should be united by faith in Jesus and his kingdom, no matter if they have cosmological and theological
disagreements. Too sad they have been divided by doctrines.
My view on the subject. At all possibilities, Babylon the Great whore symbol seems to hide no more
than two realities, one particular and one broader. For a literalist the best interpretation behind the
symbol is Jerusalem or Tyre. But even if this was true, it should still be the fullfillment of a smaller
judgement. For Jesus kingdom to be established on Earth, ALL his enemies should be crashed. God
could not just destroy the false system of just one city and leave all the others. So the whole field should
be cleaned up from whatever God disapproves.
Therefore, in the broader sense, Babylon the Great seems to represent the whole empire and system of
false religion that sprang from ancient Mesopotamia(a system that is related to politics and trade, kings
and traders). As in very ancient Mesopotamia, the high priestess was superior than kings, whom she
elected after making love with them at the beginning of the year(spring). Riches made her lost her mind.
Thank you
Chris said this on December 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
99. I think that since we deal with symbols(for example waters = people, nations), then the inhabitants of a
specific location are not implied.
Besides this, there are problems with all literal interpretations. For example Rome is sitting on seven
hills not mountains. Jerusalem couldnt have made drunken all the nations with her fornication she
was not reigning over the kings of the Earth. Both are daughters NOT the mother of whores and
abominations of the Earth. Hezekiel refers to Jerusalem as daughter of her father who was an Ammorite
and her mother who was a Hittite. Truly, Babylon city was established by an Ammorite dynasty and
later was ruled by Hittites.
Jeremiah 51 says Babylon sits on many waters, Isaiah 47 Babylon sits a queen etc. so I think theres a
reference to old Babylon city to connect it with all false religions that sprang from it. But I dont think
that the literal Babylon city is receiving the judgement since she has spread all over the world under
many faces. I believe its the religious influence, the economy of the clergies that is being destroyed by
politicians/kings who wish to separate the church from state.
We must not forget that a symbol represents something other than itself and all enemies of Jesus must be
destroyed. Not just one city.
Chris said this on December 27, 2012 at 6:06 am | Reply
o hi chris
good points. I like to consider all symbolic and literal interpretations, to see how well each one
fits.
Marianne said this on December 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Reply

100. Of course you are right you filthy whore, there is nothing you will not have sex with, your bed is
with every trade port in the seas, with every Captain of every ship. The merchants of the earth will morn
at your destruction. Rejoice every saint for great is her down fall. Hallelujah For great and mighty is the
Lord God who will judge her I suppose it would be easier to just say woe to the rich.
Lan said this on January 21, 2013 at 6:31 pm | Reply
101. This is not the complete list; it was taken from the 45 Communist goals that found their way
down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional RecordAppendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current
strength.
(Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed
an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.)
the common man.
Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
In ancient Hebrew the word for lightning is barack, the word for heaven or the heights is bama and to
connect the words either an a or an o is used.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away
first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Karl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. enter into mens minds and cast

Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can coin money!
The name Federal Reserve was carefully chosen and designed to deceive Americans into believing
they were part of our Government when in fact it is privately owned by international bankers in direct
violation to Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.
Our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. (But vetoed a raise for those on Social Security) A
member of Congress only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than
$15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. If some one in the military
stays in for 20 years (providing that they are not killed in combat before that) and gets out as an E-7,
they may receive a pension of $2,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harms way
receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
The debt added by the previous 43 U.S. Presidents from 1789 through 2002 combined was
$6.3 trillion
The debt added by Obama is

$6.5 trillion
I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself I seek the social
ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce
wealth. Communism is the goal.
Roger Baldwin, Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties
Union (ACLU).
Jeremiah 32:35
And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons
and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it
into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Leviticus 20:2-5
It is difficult for many people to accept the truth that several of our nations top leaders have been
members of the occultic Bohemian Grove. George W. Bush is also a member of this occult organization.
Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern
California . Members of the so-called Bohemian Club Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon
and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove,
Members of This All-Male Club Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual
Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the
Great Owl of Bohemia.
Leviticus 26
1Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set
up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:4
4Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 20:6-8 (King James Version)
6And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after
them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.
Isaiah 5:20
20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Acts 5: 29Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Jeremiah 50:14-15. 14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow,
shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the LORD. 15 Shout against her round about:
she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen , her walls are thrown down : for it is the vengeance
of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done , do unto her.
all.
The U.N. Charter was written by Alger Hiss, Molotov and Vishinsky
Molotov and Alger Hiss made a secret agreement that the military chief of the U.N. was always
to be a Russian, appointed by Moscow
It was Russia who insisted the U.N. be placed on U.S. soil

Whole sections of the U.N. Charter were copied intact, word for word from the Russian
Constitution
Kruschevs orders to the communists have been Rule the U.N.
The only two U.S.A. Senators who voted against the U.N. Treaty Charter were the only two
Senators who had read it
The U.N. is helpless on vital questions because Russia has veto power.
Under the U.N. setup, the U.S. taxpayers have been forced to make up the U.N. treasury deficit
of millions of dollars for Russia refuses to pay her share.
The U.N. has never passed a resolution condemning Russia or her so-called satellites but it
does condemn our allies.
J. Edgar Hoover of the F.B.I. said, The overwhelming majority of the Communist delegations to
the U.N. are espionage agents.
At the time of the Korean War there were 60 nations in the U.N. Yet 93% of the U.N. forces were
Americans, and 95% of the cost was borne by Americans.
The U.N. policy during the Korean War was to prevent America from winning the victory over
the communists.
The U.N. was responsible for aiding Castro.
Article 47, Par. 3 of the U.N. Charter states: The Military Staff Committee shall be responsible
through the Security Council for the strategic direction of any armed forces placed at the disposal of the
Security Council.
All battle plans of General MacArthur had to go through this Soviet Chief.
Any future wars fought by the U.N. would be fought under the same military operations
controlled by the U.N. Security Council.
God is not mentioned in the U.N. Charter and meetings are not opened with prayer? The Communist
co-creators of the U.N. had it agreed that there should be no mention of God and Jesus Christ.
Communist Goals (1963)

#11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up
as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe
the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete
with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
The American people will never

knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it
happened. Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-
founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of
soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponents fate.
Sun Tzu
The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom and
before I leave office I must inform the Citizen of his plight. PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
(5 months after he signed Executive Order 11110, and 10 days before he was murdered)
The number murdered by Communist regimes or organizations in the past hundred years stands at
roughly 120 million. Just for the sake of this ideology, these people were removed from their homes,
worked to death in concentration camps, exiled to perish on the Siberian steppes, subjected to the
horrible tortures in the most horrible prisons, executed by brainwashed Communist militants, strangled,
had their throats cut, or starved to death in deliberately-created famines.
The savagery of this red terror began first in Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.
Revelation 18:1-8
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth
was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying , Babylon the great is
fallen , is fallen , and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of
every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,
and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed
rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying , Come
out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For
her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she
rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to
her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously , so much torment and sorrow
give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore
shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned
with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!. George Washington
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.
all.
Steve said this on January 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Reply
102. Using the bible for accurate information on Babylon is like reading an IDF press release about
Irans nuclear program
Laerrus said this on February 15, 2013 at 12:41 am | Reply
103. Karl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. enter into mens minds
and cast God down from his throne.
Communist Goals (1963)
strength.
the common man.
The number murdered by Communist regimes or organizations in the past hundred years stands at
roughly 120 million. Just for the sake of this ideology, these people were removed from their homes,
worked to death in concentration camps, exiled to perish on the Siberian steppes, subjected to the
horrible tortures in the most horrible prisons, executed by brainwashed Communist militants, strangled,
had their throats cut, or starved to death in deliberately-created famines.
The savagery of this red terror began first in Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.
Luke 22:36 He said to them, But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you dont have
a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
Acts 5: 29Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
We ought to obey God rather than men!
Luke22:36 He said to them, But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you dont have
a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
all.
Enforce Executive Order 11110.
Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can coin money!
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and
Measures
In stark contrast to this statement, the Federal Reserve Bank is owned and run by private individuals and
international bankers.
In 1791, the Coinage Act of 1791 was passed. This Act established the exact amounts of gold or silver in
each denomination of coin. This Act was never repealed.
Mention the Federal Reserve (FED) and most people, including Americans, will think that you are
talking about the financial arm of the US government.
That assumption, however, would be well off the mark.
The Federal Reserve is in fact a private company. The name Federal Reserve was carefully chosen
and designed to deceive Americans into believing they were part of our Government when in fact it is
privately owned by international bankers in direct violation to Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S.
Constitution.
These international bankers have the power, through the United States Treasury, to print money by
simply adding ink to worthless pieces of paper.
The bankers elected to fund Woodrow Wilsons attempt to gain the presidency of the United Sates, in
return for his continuing support of the FED.
After his election to the Presidency Woodrow Wilson passed the Federal Reserve Act, only to later
comment, I have unwittingly ruined my country.
There are a great many commentators who believe that US presidential candidates are now carefully
selected and funded by the FED, so that they can guarantee that every new president will be sympathetic
to their cause.
STATES PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY was MURDERED!
I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself I seek the social
ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce
wealth. Communism is the goal.
Roger Baldwin, Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties
Union (ACLU).
The American people will never
knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it
happened. Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-
founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of
soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponents fate.
Sun Tzu
The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom and
before I leave office I must inform the Citizen of his plight. PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
(5 months after he signed Executive Order 11110, and 10 days before he was murdered)
Your income is taxed to pay the Federal Reserve what they charge for printing money that is illegal and
unconstitutional in the first place!
Income taxes are unconstitutional

Originally income taxes were illegal because the Constitution required all taxes to be apportioned among
the states proportional to their populations, not their incomes.
The 16th Amendment, which permits federal income taxes, was not ratified in the same language by
three fourths of the United States as required by Article V of the Constitution and is therefore invalid.
The approved wording was different in different states and therefore they ratified different amendments!
(Is Income Tax Un-American and Illegal?, July and August, 1993, pp. 14-16).
The courts refuse to cast down the 16th Amendment even though it was not legally ratified.
The Federal Reserve is also a monopolyin a country where monopolies are supposed to be illegal. The
IRS deposits peoples income tax checks directly in the Federal Reserve banksnot in the united States
Treasury. Therefore, the IRS, an unconstitutional entity, is merely the collection agency for the
international banksters. Over the years the IRS has become a tool of the elite banking families to
financially attack and/or imprison people who expose the Federal Reserve. It is also a tool used by the
D.C. elite to attack people who expose government corruption.
On September 19, 1796, President Washington gave his farewell address. Prophetically, he gave strong
warnings against permanent alliances with foreign powers, big public debt, a large military
establishment and the devices of a small, artful, enterprising minority to control or change our
government.
There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man woman and child. Before I leave this high and
noble office, I intend to expose this plot.-President John F. Kennedy -7 days before he was murdered!
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
americansoldierpsalm118v10 said this on February 15, 2013 at 8:38 am | Reply
104. I do not agree 100% with this page, but I think it has many interesting and truthful elements.
10 toes of nimrods kingdom, to be set up in end times:
1.) Babel (Iraq)

2.) Erech (Turkey)
3.) Accad (Baghdad)
4.) Calneh (Northern Syria)
5.) Shinar (Mesopotamia)
6.) Asshur (Assyria)
7.) Ninevah (Persia & Arabia)
8.) Rehoboth (Beer-Sheba southeast of the Dead Sea)
9.) Calah (Northern Iraq)
10.) Resen (Macedonia)
http://doubleportioninheritance.blogspot.ca/2011/05/nimrod-papacy-pangaea_17.html
Marianne said this on February 23, 2013 at 2:56 am | Reply
105. hi,
i have studying bible prophecy by Gods grace and i would like to tell you wt i think.
the america is the beast from land.
and i believe the iraq(babylon) will once again be a superpower and the false prophet will head this
because
looking at the current economic scenario we can say that america and eu is in great danger of greatest
economic collapse of all time. all the counties around the world have dependency upon the dollar. means
once the economy collapse all the world powers including usa, eu, india and china will be in great
depression. and if the world war occur countries like israel, iran, saudi, palestine will be fighting with
each other.. only iraq will not take part into the war. because it dose not have that capacity. but i think
that because of iraqs resources of oil it will be a superpower.
currently i think iraq(babylon) has its mortal wound but soon it will recover after such events.
please let me know you views on my mail id.
regards,
Solomon (india)
solomon said this on May 15, 2013 at 10:54 am | Reply
o hello solomon
I also expect america and the eu to collapse. this will allow the east and middle east to come to
the top of world activity. the bible speaks of babylon as an enemy of Israel. america does not fit
this description, but Iraq and Iran do, along with Syria, Lebanon etc. these are ancient enemies
and need to be defeated permanently, so Messiah can rule.
106. You have a lot to say about Babylon. Did all of that come from the bible?
air said this on May 22, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Reply
o air
the biblical references are given, along with other references for the data cited.
107. The clue as to what represents Bavel today is hidden in Isa. 14.12. and I do not mean the usual
interpretation by Christianity.
Jay said this on June 29, 2013 at 4:45 am | Reply
o Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut
down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Marianne said this on June 29, 2013 at 7:25 am | Reply
o you might find this interesting.
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=294&d=162
Marianne said this on June 29, 2013 at 7:43 am | Reply
108. Isa. 14.12 Parable of King Nebuchadnezzer
..how have you fallen from the heavens, O glowing morning start; been cut down to the ground, O
conqueror of nations. [ eyk nafalat mishamyim heylel ben-shachar nigdaat laaretz cholesh al-goyim].
The word heylel means the star Venus, which is the star that appears in third watch of the morning
when it is still darkness shachar or laylah before the dawn. This star is prayed to by the Muslims
every morning and it is also required to pray to the moon eclipse as Muhammad did. The words heylel
and laylah have the same letters and the number 75. Venus is also known as Athtar in the Babylonian
/ Thamud system of pagan gods. The Babylonian Empire was the only empire to rule over Arabia. The
360 pagan gods out of the thousand Babylonian pagan gods were adopted by Arabia. The Babylonian
influence was profound in Arabia. In the Safaitic, which is the northern area of Arabia, Venus is known
as ha-lah. [the god]. In the southern area in Arabic, Venus is known as al-lah [the god].
Coincidence? This could be the reason Mohammed chose the name allah for his god. It was the main
pagan god and Mohammeds family were caretakers of this pagan god in the little mud hut full of pagan
idols in southern Arabia. The word heylel is basically used and understood as referring to King
Nebuchadnezzer. To the Christians it refers to satan. Is there a deeper meaning of this word? Is this word
used for a specific reason in the verse? Notice the symbolic star and crescent moon on the Islamic flag?
Jay said this on June 30, 2013 at 5:05 am | Reply
o jay
they do believe that allah is the creator, and not a star or moon.
109. Marianne, I do know they believe allah is the creator, but it must be kept in mind that Babylon
and Arabia were steeped in star gazing and their gods were identified as such. allah is not what it
appears, the original name in Babylon was allah xul [ evil god ]. Islam will always deny it, as it does
not fit their template or agenda of trying to convince the world that they are a legitimate religion, when
in truth, they are a political ideology only.
Jay said this on July 1, 2013 at 2:51 am | Reply
110. Babel First Shiite Political Alliance formed
http://newsofthebeast.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-alliance-formed-in-babil.html?spref=fb
111. Hi. This is completely wrong, Im sorry to say. Babylon is America and the capitalist decadent
west. The beast that she rides,or in other words dominates, is international communism. The beast hates
the whore (Babylon) and destroys her in one hour. They are two seperate entities. The 10 horns are 10
kings who are in a coalition with the beast to destroy the capitalist west to further their plan of
international communism. The muslim world may play a part in destroying the west but are only useful
pawns in the NWO.
Sophie said this on July 31, 2013 at 3:26 am | Reply
112. Read Eze 16, 16 (2) Son of man,cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,(3) And say, Thus
saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem ;Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan;thy father was a
Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. It goes on in proceeding passages to show how GOD made a
covenant with her and took her as his .It goes on to list items he gave her fine linen,silk,bracelets ,jewel
on thy forehead,decked with gold and silver, thou did eat fine flour, and honey and oil.These items were
gifts GOD gave to his Israel who became his. Thyene wood was used for its odor in sacrifices.Many of
these same items are listed in Rev. 18
nancy said this on August 22, 2013 at 7:29 pm | Reply
113. Mystery Babylons idenity reveals that there was only one place on planet earth where Jesus was
put to death.Rev12:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is
called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified.
114. Rev12:24 And in her was found the blood of the prophets,and of the saints,and of all that were
slain upon the earth should be clear.
115. Jerusalem was the center for trade.
116. God used governments and kings to do his will and at times punish those he wished to
punish.God used people who didnt even believe in him to accomplish his will .We must remember
GOD has told us the end from the beginning he also said and I am going to paraphraise because I am not
sure exactly where it is written in the scriptures so I cannot at this time quote it word for word but
anyway the ways man considers good basically not the ways of god so you never know when you read
the news all this is designed by the great I AM.Hes in charge just do what your suppose to do and leave
judgement for him it might be just the way he planned.
117. Nancy, that is the belief that I once embraced but upon closer examination you will find that
Jesus was crucified outside Jerusalem. It was the ruling authorities in both Jerusalem and the cities of
the nations that crucified him. All of them fall. Rev 16:19. Notice that the islands fled and the
mountains could not be found. There are no islands in Jerusalem.
Anna said this on August 22, 2013 at 8:56 pm | Reply
118. Babylon truly is still BabylonShe is what we know as the tower of BabelThese men made a
city by the name of their god and the worship of their god In that way they were gathered together aka
the city of Babylon.. Noting has changed.. That is exactly what Babylon of Rev 17 and 18 is She is a
counerfeit of the Bride of Jesus, New jerusalem. Babylon is the bride of the beastLucifer/dragon
beast is called king of Babylon Isaiah 14 He is the spirit and his congegation is the bride, aka
Babylon..Those that the light of a candle is gone and the voice of the bridegroom no longer heard are the
fallen Christians of Rev 12-4 that accepted the beast (dragon tail) and are cast down to earth..These are
also a hold of demons
It is an historical fact that the original babylon worshipped the astrology loreThe entire wordld except
Jews and Christians still adhere to this lie. Islams God allah was the ancient moon god of the
astrology lore The verses called the satnic verses reveal allahs three moon god daughter.. Noting has
change about Babylon..
e1313ruth said this on November 23, 2013 at 5:16 am | Reply
119. I have read your pdf about the antichrist and it obvious that you have spent time doing the
research, however by proposing that the 12th Imam is the antichrist you are going to hurt the feelings of
millions of people. If some one spoke negatively about Jesus Christ how would you feel.
Let me give you some hints. The previous 11 Imams were all assassinated. The thought that comes to
mind is either they were really good people or they were really bad people.(forgive my crudeness)What
they were that you have to decide. To help you decide I suggest you read their biographies . If you dont
have the time you can just read one biography, that of Immam Hussain (The 3rd Immam).
In conclusion I would just like to say that identifying the problem is very important because it
determines whether you are making progress or just wasting time.
MGA said this on February 18, 2014 at 8:57 am | Reply
o Islam states Jesus Christ never died on a cross, and is not the son of G-d. Why would Islam state
such a hurtful thing to Christianity unless the religion of peace believed it to be true?
Quite a few in Christianity believe Muhammad was a mad man who raped a 9 year old girl, and
murdered a lot of folks by cutting off their heads. A correct history book shows them to be
accurate.
Now, some believe the 12th Imam fits the description in the Bible of the Anti-Christ. I dont
know, but one thing is for sure, Islam is a pagan religion whos god can not even defend itself.
My god of the kabba requires the warriors for allah to murder those who refused to submit,
and/or pay a tax. Suen hates Infidels.
See Syria, Egypt, the Sinai, and northern Nigeria as examples of the religion of peace towards
Christians.
Leatherneck said this on February 18, 2014 at 11:59 am | Reply

120. .Big Babylon is the U.S.A.READ the cipher:JEREMIAS 51/63-REVELATION 9/13 14 15-
REV.8/7 8 9 10 11 12-ISAIAH 13/10.
Frank Sudimak said this on April 21, 2014 at 2:33 pm | Reply
121. U.S.A is the third of the earth:REVELATION 9/13-15 and REVELATION 8/7-12
122. Babylon is not Babylon,because a new mystery Babylon from revelation is the city who has a
ships at sea.REV.18/19.New York has a ships,ancient Babylon in Iraq has not shipsNew York IS
TOWN WHO has kingdom over the kings of the earth-REV.17/18.(OSN).unated nations.
o Frank,
You may find this series of video presentations interesting or maybe confusing or not important
to the topic.
I think there is evidence within these video segments that tells me the US is not what it appears
to be to the general population of Americans (in my opinion).
Theres more evidence of Egyptian Isis and Babylonian Ishtar within the US than the citizens
of America realize.
The pagan symbolism within our country is almost overwhelming once you begin to see it.
Blessings
Psalm 27
DJ said this on April 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm | Reply
123. sorry for my english,I am from Slovakia.if you want write me,my e-meil is : j.w.angeles@azet.sk
o dear frank
thank you for writing to us..I am so happy that someone far away in another country would
read what is here, and make a comment, to share information.
I think there are 2 babylons..the physical one which is still the Iraq area, and the mystery
babylon, which is a modern version of the ancient empire.
You may be correct, that the USA is mystery babylon..the USA is going to be destroyed by
Gods judgment, but he will protect the righteous people who belong to him.this is because of
USA sins against god.
God bless you
dear Marianne,Thank you for your opinion.I deal with prophecyies of bible for 20
years.Read jeremias 50 and 51 entire chapters.
JESUS BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY:-D
124. Frank,
There are a few like you and me that think NYC represents Babylon as we read in Revelation 18. (I am
in the US.)
Let me share with you a few YouTube links that explain what a few have concluded over the past few
years.
I think there is great spiritual darkness across our country and many Christians are either asleep or
blind (in my opinion). Evidence of this darkness goes back to 9/11.
The Statue of Liberty is a modern (1800s) representation of Ishtar. Yes!
This statue was build by a French Freemason artist, given to commemorate the 100 year of the first
Masonic nation (1776-1876) from the French who established the second such government.
Ishtar = Mother Goddess, Queen of Heaven, Babylon.
Simple.
The symbols on the US Dollar include the all seeing eye and other messages.
Others argue that Babylon is about Rome/Vatican. You are correct where is the harbor? Where are the
merchants in Rome?
Were does the world trade? In the World Trade Center, NYC.
The destruction of that great city is coming soon.
Here is anther posted page that may be of interest to you.

God Bless you.
Revelation 12:11
DJ said this on April 21, 2014 at 4:13 pm | Reply
o Hi DJ,Thanks for your information.I understand all almost.One view we share:Big Babylon-
U.S.A. will be destroyedGod bless you
125. slavery part of mystery babylon
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-child-abuse-scandal-paedophile-4113152
MUSLIM MEN GROOMING GIRLS FOR SEX: 1,400 children were sexually abused, tortured, gang-
raped, threatened with death, doused with gas and trafficked by a Muslim gang in the UK. Authorities,
school officials and social workers admitted they did nothing to stop the atrocities because they feared
being labelled racist as most of the attackers were Asian and Muslim. Political correctness allowed
these vile monsters to continue their evil deeds for 16 years! Oh Lord, please help these innocent
children. Restore and supernaturally heal their physical, psychological and emotional wounds
Marianne said this on August 31, 2014 at 12:56 am | Reply
o Hi dear Marianne,well i am filling with those childrenbut why the God did not save Jews and
their children from holocaust by Germany dictator???
Frank said this on January 3, 2015 at 8:22 pm | Reply
frank
the bible says something that is true for all people..
my people are destroyed for lack of knowedge.
many people believe in god but do not ask him for help.so they get hurt
there were also many who escaped the holocaust because they made the right moves, and
trusted in god for help..
some of those in the camps may have never asked god, or waited too long to ask for help
and there were many jews who were liberal jews and did not believe god to begin with,
so they were killed
this is a lesson for all of us
jesus said we do not have because we do not ask.so ASK God for protection BEFORE
trouble comes, and if you dont, then ASK during trouble for deliverance.
many jews were passive and just accepted what happened to themthey did not resist or
fight backthey just gave up.
many were ignorant
the same challenges face both jews and christians today.
Marianne said this on January 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm | Reply
126. Marianne said this on November 13, 2014 at 5:49 pm | Reply

127. Im just curious about one thing regarding Babylon, the city, I suppose. Revelations describes
Babylon as falling twice. Are these falls symbolic, representative of a distancing from God, or are these
falls more of a decline in political/economic/cultural power? I only ask because the city of Babylon is
known to have been founded around 2300 BC, at which time of course it wouldnt have been an enemy
of Israel since Israel didnt exist yet. It was conquered many times by many different peoples, the
Hittites, the Kassites, the Assyrian Empire, Arameans, etc. during truly ancient times. Cyrus, king of
Persia, made it part of his empire in the 5th century BCE, and even allowed the jewish people to return
to their homeland, as mentioned in the Hebrew Bible and corroborated by archaeological texts. Hardly
the act of an enemy of Israel. Alexander took it from Darius in the 3rd century BCE. When Alexander
died, Babylon was all but destroyed and abandoned during the succession wars of his generals. Then
comes more persians, under the Parthian and then Sassanid Empires, and in the 1st and 2nd centuries
Christianity was introduced to Mesopotamia; Babylon even hosted the seat of a Bishop of the Church of
the East. Even after the Islamic conquests of the 7th century Babylon still seated a Christian bishop. So I
guess my 2 questions are thus: do any of these falls count towards the 2 mentioned in Revelations, and at
what point in history did Babylon become the enemy of Israel? (Im sure that question comes off as
condescending, but such is not my intent, Im a huge fan of history but not very studied of the Bible, so I
am truly asking what the Bible says on that matter. Was Babylon always the enemy of Israel, or did it
become so sometime later in its existence?) Or is the name Babylon representative of sinful and evil
ways (and by extension the enemy of Israel), and Revelations perhaps is not referencing the actual
ancient city on the Euphrates?
Russ said this on December 16, 2014 at 6:05 pm | Reply
o russ
I am not a history expert either so I will do my best.
the different people groups who ruled the space were hostile, or somewhat hostile through out
history..
they may have moved on to other locations
since Islam rules there now, it is very hostile to Israel.
babylon is not just the territory of modern iraq.it is that of several modern countries who have
all been hostile since their inception.
egypt
jordan
syria
lebanon
iran
iraq
saudi arabia
turkmenistan
afganistan
azerbajan
yemen
sudan
south russia (russia has alliance with Iran, if Iran attacked by either USA or Israel, it will defend
Iran)
maybe that helps.?
Marianne said this on December 16, 2014 at 7:16 pm | Reply
128. Thank you marianne, that does help I had a sleepless night, and I spent it on Google maps
and wikipedia surfing around Iraq and reading about/looking at ancient sites via satellite, which
eventually led me here and now my interest has been snagged. So, Im just musing here, but bear with
me. Babylon mentioned in the bible does in fact also mention the Euphrates River in a couple of verses
if I read somewhere correctly. Im assuming, therefore, (again step in if needed , that when the
Babylonian Empire destroyed Jerusalem and enslaved its people in 587 BCE, the actual city of Babylon
earned the ire of the Hebrew people, and probably that spot in the Old Testament as well. In a very real
sense, Babylon the city was the enemy of Israel. Now I delve into biblical history Im shady on, but
Jeremiah foretold that the Jews would be free to return home again in 70 years, and in fact, Babylonia
fell to the Persian empire within that time span, who had their own panoply of gods. Did the Jewish
people return home at that point? Having a hard time finding that info. At any rate, (again musing), Id
be willing to bet that the idea of Babylon, at least so far as the Hebrew people were concerned, and
maybe even within a few generations, evolved at that point from the enemy city it once was (since the
same political powers that had wronged the Hebrews no longer existed there) into what it represents
now, sin and decadence and blasphemy. Im going to have to read up on both the Old Testament and
New Testament now. Ive read a lot of scripture now on this forum and others, but am unfamiliar about
which scripture comes from which Book.
Russ said this on December 16, 2014 at 8:04 pm | Reply
o hi russ
there is babylon itself and then the babylonian SYSTEM that has prevailed over thousands of
years.
babylon, for example, established the gold standard for currency which we still use today, and
the collection of gods has been passed on to different cultures, with name changes for the gods
nimrod, first king of babylon, was a human hybrid..part human and part fallen angel in his blood.
his gods became other people;s gods.
cyrus in 537-510 BC issued a proclamation to allow Jews to return home but this was not
fulfilled completely.it was Darius II, grandson of Artaxerxes, and great grandson of Esther
(who married the king of Pesia) that made this a reality..about a hundred years later.
God always has a plan.because of Esthers influence, her people were saved not only at the
time she lived, but were delivered and freed a hundred years later by her grandson in 445 BC
Marianne said this on December 16, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Reply
The God used symbols in prophecy.Name of Babylon is just a symbol:-D
129. Happy new year 2015 for U and your family
o thank you!
you also have a good year, and stay close to God.
130. I love God and Jesus and the true
jwangeles said this on January 3, 2015 at 10:42 pm | Reply
131. THE WOMAN SIBYL (CYBELE or ISABEL or JEZEBEL or PROSERPINA) was

ABDUCTED from GODS HOUSE and then MIXED with ANIMAL (RAPED) on PALATINE HILL.
she was A MOTHER OF HARLOT because NOT COMEBACK. THE JUDGMENT is THE GREAT
FIRE of ROME 64 AD because RAPTOR BOASTING. MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT is
RAPTOR EMPIRE. LEAD by REPTILIAN or DRACONIAN (REX). WHORE SHIP THE DEAD
JESUS is ANTICHRIST. LEAD by APOSTLE PAUL (APOLLO) WAS (PLUTO) AND IS NOT
(POPE) YET IT IS (REX) of CAPITOLINE HILL.
PLEASE COMEBACK said this on March 5, 2015 at 4:18 pm | Reply
132. I cant tell whats going on in the world 100%, but it doesnt look good to this Jarhead. We are
witnessing serious stuff in the old kingdom of Assyria. If a Caliphate shows itself that includes much of
the old Roman Empire, will the Anti-Christ show himself? The Anti-Christ is suppose to be Assyrian.
Leatherneck said this on June 3, 2015 at 2:49 am | Reply
133. Leatherneck,
Dont need to accept everything in this video step by step. There is evidence that the all seeing eye
is the home if the Anti- Christ. Old Roman Empire sits on Capital Hill.
DJ said this on June 3, 2015 at 6:14 am | Reply
134. How sad that some people believe that America was founded on bibicial principles. America was
founded by Freemasons who placed all of their occult symbolism on buildings and monuments. We are
just another Illuminati created country.
Clyde Harkins said this on August 13, 2015 at 1:45 am | Reply
o if masons founded it, then they encouraged the growth of christianity for 350 years
Masons did. There is no if. Almighty God is sovereign.
DJ said this on August 13, 2015 at 4:56 am | Reply
Marianne and All- As Yah set up Israel in a pagan nation (Egypt), through Yosef, so Yah
set up America through the Jew Columbus!
The children of Israel would be in Egypt for a set period of time, determined by Yah, to
eventually be forced back to Israel, through the destruction of Egypt, leading to the
Exodus!
The believers of Yah would be in pagan America for a set period of time, determined by
Yah, to eventually be forced back to Israel, through the destruction of America, leading
to the Second Greater Exodus!
When Yah said that He tells us the end from the beginning, it was not an idle
inconsequential statement. It is a foundational truth that we can look to for undetstanding!
Those are the basics of how this plays out! The people Yah used to bring all this about
are those of his choosing, according to His Sovereign will, whether one is speaking of
Egypt or America! Who did what in the beginning of each story was according to Yahs
will to bring about His desired outcome at the end. So, what is all the fuss!?!? It will be
as Yah has declared and fretting over the who and why of all of this is futile! Better to
prepare oneself for the trouble ahead and Yahs glorious salvation!!!
Shalom
Al said this on August 13, 2015 at 2:51 pm | Reply
o Please tell that to Jonathan Cahn and the blind sheep following him.
NYC is to be destroyed in one hour (Rev, 18:8-19). Hebrew year 5776 is the year and they know
it.
Blessings
Psalm 27
DJ said this on August 13, 2015 at 4:10 am | Reply
135. Just came across your site yesterday and appreciated reading this piece. I consider you to be
generally correct here. The full details may be impossible to determine except as we watch them unfold,
but one thing I see is that each of the nations listed in the Bible which Jesus destroys upon His return are
Islamic right now.
Islam Is The Beast (@grindercap) said this on January 23, 2016 at 5:38 pm | Reply
o grinder
I agree with you and have more posts on the beast as well.
with the mess islam has created, I hope jesus comes very soon
Marianne
Seems they are very close to re-establishing their caliphate which should lead to the anti-
christ emerging
I will certainly be reading more of your work. Thank you for sharing it!
Islam Is The Beast (@grindercap) said this on January 23, 2016 at 7:42 pm | Reply
there is a search box at top of page. you can put in topics and see what you get
here is one for beast + islam.there is one post written by a guest author but the
others should be mine
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/?s=beast+islam+
one search for muslims
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/?s=muslims
https://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
o Youll probably find these links of interest. Also, look within the YouTube post and youll find
many links.
As you know the following is written within the Dome of the Rock, standing on the wing of the
Temple (Court of the Gentiles):
O you People of the Book, overstep not bounds in your religion, and of God speak only the
truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is only an apostle of God, and his Word which he
conveyed unto Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him. Believe therefore in God and his
apostles, and say not Three. It will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from His
transcendent majesty that he should have a son.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm
Blessings
Philippians 1:9-11
DJ said this on January 25, 2016 at 5:26 am | Reply
136. I shared this with Marianne a few days ago, and she said I should post what God showed me
through the Bible, so this is what Im going to do.
Due to whats written in Genesis and the Lords Spirit unveiling my mind after I sought answers from
Him, I strongly believe Mariannes analysis is correct. Consider Genesis 10: 8-12:
Now Cush became the father of Nimrod; he became a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter
before the LORD; therefore it is said, Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD. The beginning
of his kingdom was Babel and Erech and Accad and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he
went forth into Assyria, and built Nineveh and Rehoboth-Ir and Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and
Calah; that is the great city.
Genesis 10:8-12 NASB
Now, the Hebrew word for mighty one here, is gibbor. Yet its interesting to note how elohim is
sometimes translated to English as strong one or mighty one also, though the connotation and
translation for elohim is usually divine. Still, its not a stretch to say Nimrod exalted himself to be
godlike, a mighty one, considering he is a type of Antichrist and the founder of the first
Babel/Babylon.
Lets compare Genesis to Revelation, shall we? In verses 10-12 of Genesis 8, we learn that Nimrod built
8 cities, with the 8th in between the 6th and the 7th. This is perfectly in line with Revelation, where the
8th is of the 7.
Revelation 17:9-11 NASB
Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,
and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he
must remain a little while. The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the
seven, and he goes to destruction.
In Revelation, the Bible also says that there will be 10 kings with the beast. If we count the names of the
lands in Genesis, Shinar and Assyria, with the 8 cities, we get 10. I dont believe its a coincidence.
Furthermore, in Revelation, the Lord told John to address 7 churches. Where were these churches
located? Strangely, in Turkey! When you think about it, its too coincidental for the city and the beast to
not be in the Middle East Especially since the location has remained the same from Genesis, to the
prophets, to Daniel, to the New Testament. Its ONE statue from Nebuchadnezzars dream. When the
Lord begins foreshadowing with a pattern, I dont think Hell suddenly change it; it doesnt make sense
when you consider the repeated pattern of foreshadowing Christ.
Some will say Mystery Babylon is Rome, America, the Vatican, Islam, or what have you, but I
disagree. This doesnt make sense, because Mystery Babylon is both a system and a city, with whom
the world has committed spiritual harlotry with. And what is spiritual harlotry, according to the Lord?
Serving any god but Him! Exalting ourselves above Him! And people have committed spiritual harlotry
long, long before Rome and America. If anything, they are merely the peoples whove drunk her wine.
Again, in order to understand Revelation, we need to go back to Genesis 10-11, where we see the first
renewal of spiritual prostitution after the flood, at the tower of Babel, in the city of Babel/Babylon. Its
after this, I will add, that we start to see false idols and things like divination. I didnt even realise this
until the Lord let me see it! And if we fast forward to the Mystery Religions of Greco-Rome, which
assimilated into the Roman Catholic Church, the deities will trace back to Babylon, Accad, and Assyria,
where well find. We are right back in the same region where it all began. Twice. Same territory. It
should be noted, that this same area of Mesopotamia is also credited with extreme polytheism. As an
aside, its worth noting that, Marduk, Nebuchadnezzars chief god had a dragon.
The next step in identifying the 7 heads is, looking at who came to conquer the region after Rome, the
head who IS in Johns day. After Titus built his arch in the place of the Second Temple, it continued
being there until there was a war with the Persians/Sassanians, where the Persians laid siege to
Jerusalem But they never conquered Constantinople, or set up an abomination on the Temple
Mount; though the Jews supporting them did plan to rebuild a Third Temple, it fell through. However,
the Arabs, under Muslim rule, have fulfilled this portion of the requirements. And they are there to this
day. Its interesting how they seem to be the only powers to fulfil these two requirements from after the
time of Christ.
I know some will think its a stretch to say the prophecy of Revelation will unfold in the literal region of
the empires in the OT But prior to 1948, it was a stretch to say literal Israel would return to their
literal land. If God can do that for Israel, what makes it impossible for Him to do it for Babylon?
Sherry T said this on June 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm | Reply
o sherry
thank you for posting this. you also sent another email to me.
maybe, between the 2 email comments, we could make a separate post, and I could you as the
author..
Sure! As long as God gets His credit as the Original Author and Teacher, I dont mind.
Sherry T said this on June 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm | Reply
ok
I will list Him as author, and you as scribe
That would be fantastic. Thank you very much.
Sherry T said this on June 18, 2016 at 10:53 am | Reply
137. Actually I think there are three cities in One. Its a counterfeit trinity , the beast , the false
prophet , and the dragon. All three work together to create their hellish malice against Gods people.
debrakayanda said this on June 26, 2016 at 5:03 pm | Reply
138. Marianne, I was doing a study of Daniel 7 when I noticed, the fourth beast, Rome, never actually
dies. Its still alive and kicking until it reaches its final Antichrist form, and Christ comes. So while we
are correct on the geographic location including Turkey and the Middle East We must reanalyse
Scripture and history to find out what happened to Ancient Rome, to its current state today. Remember,
the 8th king head, as per Genesis, shows us how his kingdom will reign from between the 6th and 7th.
So he must have Roman (western) and Middle Eastern influence.
I found this study, which builds upon what weve confirmed and provides some insight we may have
missed: http://focusonjerusalem.com/theidentityofthe7.html
Interestingly, the map of the Roman Empire youve provided in your PDF also includes the same
countries listed Although, I dont know why it excludes modern day Germany; because according to
Wikipedia, the Romans did establish a small portion of their empire in the lesser regions (
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania_Inferior ). A question popped into my mind when I was
pondering this Perhaps by the Holy Spirit, since I am not this wise If the fourth beast is identified
as mainly Rome, or Greco-Roman, how can we conclude the end times beast is mainly Islamic and
Middle Eastern? The ten toes have iron, too. And Turkey/Istanbul, oddly, is a bridge between Europe
and the Middle East.
Sherry T said this on July 8, 2016 at 3:01 pm | Reply
o sherry
the 4th beast is a mixed beast, not just roman.
the only iron in the beast is in the teeth. body of a leopard (grecian/ africa), feet of a bear (
medo persian / russian) head of lion ( babylon)all these areas are islamic today. only the
teeth are roman ( europe), and turkey is part of europe as well.
the ten toes is a different issueif the iron is rome, then what is mud?
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/clay-people-in-the-foot/
the islamic migration into europe is one strong possibility
or it could be a mix of human and non human
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/they-shall-mingle-with-the-seed-of-men/
watch and see how things develop
139. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJa8uM84iI New World Order/The Beast System 10

minute video Rev 17
jardalkal said this on July 14, 2016 at 5:09 am | Reply
o Guys dont confuse yourselves.In Rev.17,the whore is killed by the beast,which i presume to be
Babylon,and in Rev.18,God punishes Babylon.The whore in Rev.17 is an enemy to the
beast.Why will the beast attack a false church?they are likely to follow Islam.They will attack
only the true church(those having the testimony of Jesus;Rev.12) and those who keep Gods
commandments(Jews).The woman(Israel in Rev.12) seen as pure by John is later seen as a sinner
with purple colour(Romes prestigious colour) and Scarlet(the beasts colour).Israel is seen as
later rejecting Jesus,from what John saw in Rev.12 and rather accepting Catholic(Purple) and
Islam(Scarlet beasts colour) form of worship.After destroying Israel,they come for the true
Christians.Rev.13 is explaining the killing of righteous jews only.Rev.14 speaks of those who
henceforth die in the Lord(These are the Gentiles).Rev.18,God punishes Babylon for persecuting
his people.In Babylon was found blood of all those slained on earth,prophets and apostles
because in Dan.2,Babylon starts from The Gold head statue,all the kingdoms after it were one
,the beast that was and will arise from the bottomless pit is Babylon(iron and clay feet).So the
whole of the statue kingdoms are judged as Babylon which are (Babylon,Medo-
Persia,Greece,Rome and Babylon ).
Dalson said this on August 4, 2016 at 9:09 am | Reply
In Dan 7,there is a fourth beast who is not described in Rev.13,as the first three beasts in
Dan.7,are the same ones who combine to form the first beast from the Sea.Who is the
fourth beast of Dan.7 then?He is Rome that came after the Leopard(Greece).This Fourth
beast is in Revelation.Apparently,It is the Iron Empire in Dan.2, and the Dragon in
Rev.12 and 13.Rome is the Iron Empire and fourth beast in Daniel and in Rev.12,Rome is
the Dragon that attacks the woman(Israel) and her child(Jesus) and their
descendants(jews and christians).So the feet of Iron and clay is in fact,Rome(Dragon) and
Babylon,Persia and Greece(1st Beast/Sea Beast).In Dan.7,,the Fourth beast removes three
tribes(horns) and gets another horn like a man(Pope) speaking for it.Rome took down the
three tribes that refused to support the Papacy.
Dalson said this on August 4, 2016 at 9:42 am | Reply
dalson
in both daniel and revelation the 4th beast is described. Rome only comprises the
teeth of the beast. the rest is something else.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/leopard-4th-beast/
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-fouth-beast-of-daniel-and-revelation-the-
antichrist/
https://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
140. Hmmm, the new age nation founded by freemasons (babylonian brotherhood) over the blood
of the native Americans and built on the backs of African slaves! Mystery babylon? Hmmm.
Realist said this on August 28, 2016 at 4:17 pm | Reply
o realist
good point. but other nations are built on blood as well, including the known geographical
babylon
o America is nowhere near the Middle East, though. The Bible was written in Middle Eastern
culture, over a span of centuries. This is a key thing we tend to forget that all of the prophecies
and narrative were written toward a specific land and people, in specific times, with certain
analogies only their culture would know.
Plus, America being Babylon falls through based on her age. My country, Singapore, is younger
by around 2 centuries. And the youngest country as of right now is South Sudan in Africa.
America and Europe just do not meet the geographical and cultural standards noted by Biblical
history and prophecy.
Sherry T said this on August 29, 2016 at 7:04 pm | Reply
sherry
are you saying babylon is singapore?
there are certain criteria for babylon to meet in revelation 18
who do you think mystery babylon is?
No lol. Singapore isnt Babylon, just like America isnt Babylon. Both countries
do not fit all the criteria. I was just pointing out that America isnt the youngest (
or hindermost ) of nations or cities, which is one of the specifications in
Biblical prophecy. Biblically speaking, that honour belongs to Babylon.
I think Babylon will be rebuilt right where she was in Nimrods days If we
interpret our regathering to Jerusalem as physical, then I dont see why Babylon
has to be spiritualised?
Sherry T said this on August 30, 2016 at 5:00 pm | Reply
141. I disagree, the plan was to include us as the people of God. Jews are the people of God if they
believe, If they dont believe (in Christ) then they are cut off by there unbelief. Its about faith and the
spirit, not about the flesh and no faith. This is why the Jews were cut off and we were let in. All day long
God stretched out his hands to the Jews, and they refused to believe, They and some are still a people
who in there is no faith.
Lan said this on September 15, 2016 at 4:27 am | Reply
o Well, thats true, in a sense. However, the emphasis of the plan always on physical and spiritual
Israel. Gentiles were just grafted into Israel spiritually, by Gods grace. It was like that in the OT
( Ruth! ), it is like that in the NT. However, God hasnt given up on those who are physically
Jews Christ and Paul talk about this which is why we are to be good examples and provoke
them to jealousy. But thats very hard to do when we come up with all these Western ideas that
have little basis in actual Hebrew/Israeli/Jewish Scripture and history.
Sherry T said this on September 15, 2016 at 3:20 pm | Reply
i agree
we are to still hold the jews as valued.
jesus told us to witness to the jews, THEN to the gentiles.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/babylon-is-still-babylon/
PORTAL IN IRAQ...REAL REASON FOR WAR!
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=towers&
action=display&num=1204610619
PORTAL IN IRAQ...REAL REASON FOR WAR!

Post by ZETAR on Mar 4th, 2008, 12:03am
WE ALL GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS AND AS WE DO WE STUMBLE ON FRAGMENTS OF

INFORMATION...WE ALL KNOW OF POWER PLACES, LEY LINES,TIME PORTALS...CHECK THIS
ARTICLE OUT AND DRAW YOUR CONCLUSION IF WE REALLY WENT TO WAR IN IRAQ FOR
WMD'S,OIL,TERRORISM...NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN FOUND...PROFITED FROM...MISSION
ACCOMPLISHED.
TEXThttp://www.rense.com/general52/occu.htm
ENJOY
SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: PORTAL IN IRAQ...REAL REASON FOR WAR!

Post by raventhewitch on Mar 5th, 2008, 3:34pm
There's UFO activity in lots of places but that doesn't mean that there is a portal in the area. We went
to war with Iraq because a group of the Arab states aren't going along with the NWO. Oil is the money
that drives the NWO. Saddam wouldn't play along so he had to be eliminated. Bush's talk about
invading Iran is in the same vein. If Iran doesn't stop developing nuclear bombs, doesn't co-operates
with the NWO and sells it all the oil it wants, then look for another war.

Post by dickyblack on Apr 16th, 2008, 4:06pm
hey
RTW, ZETAR. I stumbled on this:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/95046
about this very subject, good page, left me with loads more questions..
DB
After reading through your link,Zetar,
http://the-end.com/ProphesiedEndTime/
http://the-end.com/2008GodsFinalWitness/
download for free.....read them quickly!
OOOeerrr!
I read both of these, good references to bible and what is / could be happening now.
There are many connections in the rumormill links inc the shuttle columbia.
My question is, if Elohim ,Almighty God,of our bible, crated the 'sons of god' the Anunaki to create on
earth,
and they dallied with the daughters of the earth, to which The Elohim 'reproached the Anunnaki and
'cast them into the bottomless pit, and cleaned the earth (with flood), should we consider them the
locust of the bottomless pit as per revelations.
There is a good bible passage, but I can't remember it . something like beware the alliegencies you
make.
someone will put me straight.
db

Post by ZETAR on Apr 16th, 2008, 4:51pm
HEY DB,
WHAT A TREASURE YOU HAVE FOUND...SEEMS TO GIVE CREDENCE AS TO IMPENDING
EVENTS AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE GLOBAL PREPARATION.
IT WAS HUNTING FOR THE CITY OF LIGHTS AND YOUR STUMBLE ...AND OH WHAT A
STUMBLE PROVIDED THE NAME...A VERY FAMOUS NAME FROM SUMERIAN/BABYLONIAN
TIMES..."SUMER"
I SAY IT OVER AND OVER WE...CASEBOOK HAS BEEN BLESSED WITH THOSE WHOM
NATURALLY ARE ABLE TO TUNE INTO TO THE FORCE...OR IN SOME CASES STUMBLE
...HEY DB....STUMBLE ALL YOU WANT MY FRIEND....I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU RUN
SHALOM...ZETAR

HEY DB,
IT MAY BE THAT THERE IS A RIFT BETWEEN THE ILLUMINATI WHOM ARE ATTEMPTING TO
BLOCK THE RETURN OF THE ANUNAKI....THE LINK PROVIDED DETAILED TWO TYPES WHICH
ONE POSSESSED ROCKETS AND THE OTHER WHOM WERE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND
WORMHOLES..."STARGATE"TECHNOLOGY
IF THE SHUTTLE AND THIS IS PURELY AN HYPOTHESIS....WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THIS
STARGATE FOR THE PURPOSE OR HIDDEN AGENDA TO PREVENT THE RETURN OF THESE
ANCIENT BEINGS WHOM WERE HERE QUITE SOME TIME AGO..."ANUNAKI"...IT WOULD
APPEAR THAT A SACRAFICE WAS MADE OF THE SHUTTLE...
HOWEVER,IT WAS SAID THAT GROUND BASE SUPPORT WITH THE HIGH ALTITUDE
INFRARED CAMERA POWERED BY THIS AMERICIUM 242 ALLOWED A TRIANGULATION OF
THE/A ORIGIN OF THE SO CALLED SPRITES/ELVES OR ENERGY SIMILAR TO AND
MOREOVER ....THE "STARGATE"
THE QUESTION I HAVE WHICH FOLLOWS SUIT WITH YOURS IS...ARE THE ILLUMINATI
THOSE WHOM WERE CAST OUT/DOWN AND IS THIS ACTION A VENDETTA...
THIS IS AN INTERGALACTIC/COSMIC CHESS GAME OF WHICH COMPASSION FOR
COLLATERAL DAMAGE MAY HAVE BEEN OBSERVED WITH THE SACRAFICE OF THE
SHUTTLE COLUMBIA....THERE IS A LABRYNTH OF WHICH MUST FURTHER BE
ASSESSED...AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THOSE
ASTRONAUTS....HOWEVER,SOLDIORS ARE SENT AND OFTEN THE FULL EXTENT OF THEIR
ROLE IS NOT KNOWN...HEREIN COMES THE "HIDDEN AGENDA" POSSIBILITY.
IN A MACHEAVELLIAN SENSE....WHICH PRINCE IS RIGHT AND ARE THESE WOUNDS SO
DEEP BETWEEN THE ANUNAKI AND THE ILLUMINATI OR WHOM EVER WAS CASR FROM THE
INNER CIRCLE OR FELL FROM GRACE... THAT A PEACEFUL CO-EXISTANCE IS AS REMOTE
AS MATTER TOUCHING ANTI-MATTER...
AGAIN PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A FIRST WRITE AS ALL MINE ARE AND I'M MERELY
THINKING OUT LOUD...BUT ,THERE ARE THOSE OLD SOULS WHOM ARE SEEING MY POINTS
AND QUESTIONING THE SAME POINTS I PONDER.
GEEZ DB...YA KINDA JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE CLASS ON YOUR STUMBLE....YEAH I
STUMBLE A LOT MYSELF....BUT ONE MUST GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS TO APPROACH A
SOCRATIC GRASP OF WHAT IF....THE CONTINGENT FACTOR OF WHO,WHAT WHERE AND
WHY CAME BEFORE... WHAT WE HAVE TODAY...
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A STUDENT OF HISTORY AS IT OFTEN REFLECTS ITSELF IN AN OBLONG
OR EGG SHAPED CYCLE.
HEY MAN ...FELL FREE TO TOSS IN ANY FURTHER INSIGHTS
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by Johhn on Apr 16th, 2008, 5:46pm
ZETAR-
remember this?
this could be such a portal from Iraq...
video and more here:

http://desurators.blogspot.com/2008/01/us-soldiers-witness-strange-lights-over.html
Post by raventhewitch on Apr 16th, 2008, 5:58pm
The illuminati is concerned with sacrificing us, our liberty, etc for greater power and ultimately the
NWO. Since 9/11 was an inside job, so was going into Iraq. The reasons that you state aren't too far
out of bounds to believe.

HEY JOHHN,
YEAH MAN...I THINK DOC ADDRESSED THIS AND THE SOLDIORS RECANTED THEIR STORY
BUT...I'VE JUST WONDERED ABOUT TWO ASPECTS OF THE RECANTATION.
WERE THE SOLDIORS UNDER ORDERS TO RECANT THEIR STORY.
WHY WERE THESE PILLARS OF LIGHT ONLY SEEN WITH INFRARED ...NIGHT VISION
...WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SHUTTLE WAS EMPLOYING AS A MEANS TO WHICH STUDY
WHERE THIS ENERGY CAME FROM ON EARTH.
THE OTHER ASPECT IS WHERE WERE THESE GUYS(SOLDIORS) IN RELATION TO "SUMER"

AND THE SO-CALLED "CITY OF LIGHTS"
WE INVESTIGATORS MUST TAKE THE CRUMBS AND FURTHER READ BETWEEN THE LINES
AND THOSE IN POWER ABSOLUTELY WILL MAINTAIN RADIO SILENCE WITH SUCH
SENSATIVE INFO.
I MEAN...WHO KNOWS THROUGHOUT THE MILITARY AND OTHER AGENCIES WHAT THE
REAL STORY MAY BE...
THE ILLUMINATI ELITE...IF THAT IS A REASONABLE LABEL WILL BE A SMALL CADRE WHOM
HAVE THIS HIDDEN AGENDA...
AGAIN ONE MUST TAKE THE MANY PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TO ASSEMBLE THAT MOSAIC
OF TRUTH.
YEAH RAVEN,
I'LL NOT GO AS FAR AS TO SAY AN INSIDE JOB BUT THERE ARE HINTS THAT SOMETHING
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND POSSIBLY THE INACTION BENEFITTED THE AGENDA OF
THOSE MARKETING FEAR AND A DIMUNITION OF THE CONSTITUTION.
THERE WAS AN HISTORICAL PRECEDENT WHEN WE COULDN'T GET THE CONGRESS TO
DECLARE WAR PRIOR TO PEARL HARBOR....SAME SCENARIO...THEY KNEW SOMETHING
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN...SOME SAY THAT PEARL WAS LEFT WIDE OPEN SO ONCE
ATTACKED THE PRESIDENT HAD A FREE HAND TO DECLARE WAR THUS SUBVERTTING
CONGRESS...
OTHERS SEEM TO SAY THAT SOMETHING WAS AFOOT AND DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE
ATTACK WAS COMING BUT WERE BRACING FOR IT....
MANY CAN PLAY THE ARM CHAIR HISTORIAN BUT WAR AND CONFLICT IS A DYNAMIC ALL
TO IT'S OWN...ONE NEVER KNOWS UNTIL YOU ARE THERE...IN THOSE MENS SHOES...
GOOD POINTS BOTH JOHHN AND RTW....
DID I MENTION YOU GUYS HAD YOUR OWN SITE WHICH SHOULD BE PERUSED
SHALOM...ZETAR
ZETAR-
you raised all the right questions but one...
what is this van shaped spacecraft doing in the "light pillar" ?

Thanks for that zetar
I included the other links, end times, as the bible was written for our nations, and conneting with crop
circles,illuminati, templars, faction 1 and faction 2, as I learned today, involvement in catholic church
shenanigens since the 300's ad etc etc
I 'stumbled' on these. If you are to consider the Elohim, as our God, the revelation promised 2
witnesses.
This gentleman believes that he is one.
He is very convincing. eg 43 days ago I recorded a sermon that I downloaded an listened to out of
curiosity, he predicted that a sixth seal 'had been opened and that a thunder would occur in New
York, something \ someone rise up and resonate worldwide and rumble on.
Now I checked a few thing out and checked the popa for travel plans,(i wrote this in a post yesterday)
basically he had No plans for travel.
PM Gordon Brown travels to NY for 'financial discussions'
just found this:http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/15/british-pm-brown-to-meet-with-all-3-
presidential-candidates/
(cover your chances huh?)
I'm thinking of U.N. meetings similar to 12 feb 2008.
YES ZETAR,
i Type as I think aswell' I was once called a reactionary by a lesser illuminati 'a lord ffeoeies' of which I
ve always been proud. usually I thenk Jeez I cant post that. usually i shouldnt HA!
Its late gotta go
db

Zetar
Re : YEAH RAVEN,
I'LL NOT GO AS FAR AS TO SAY AN INSIDE JOB BUT THERE ARE HINTS THAT SOMETHING
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND POSSIBLY THE INACTION BENEFITTED THE AGENDA OF
THOSE MARKETING FEAR AND A DIMUNITION OF THE CONSTITUTION.
I just posted yesetedy about another look I had at London 7\7 There is a docu vid
I also looked again at 9\11 conspiracies, the similarities are astonishing.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2NXPl625A
db

I contacted my spirit guide and she confirmed that 9/ll was an inside job. There is a portal in Iraq and
this is why we went to war. The portal is one that goes to hell and one that demons use to come up to
this plane. Saddam was using the demons from the portal and of course the American NWO crowd
just had to have it.

on Apr 16th, 2008, 8:04pm, raventhewitch wrote:

I contacted my spirit guide and she confirmed that 9/ll was an inside job. There is a portal
in Iraq and this is why we went to war. The portal is one that goes to hell and one that
demons use to come up to this plane. Saddam was using the demons from the portal and
of course the American NWO crowd just had to have it.
hi raven!
can you ask your spirit guide why there's a spacecraft in the light pillar over Iraq?
some of us would REALLY like to know...

My spirit guide said that the ship is there to change the base of time. By speeding up time it can see
the future and then change the future that is to come. It already stopped the terrorist from exploding a
nuclear bomb on NYC. This ship is an American ship. The ship is over Iraq to stop chemical
bombings.

My spirit guide said that the ship is there to change the base of time. By speeding up time
it can see the future and then change the future that is to come. It already stopped the
terrorist from exploding a nuclear bomb on NYC. This ship is an American ship. The ship
is over Iraq to stop chemical bombings.
thanks for that raven...interesting...i really hope we're getting some help here.
any idea when this mess will be over?

Ko, my spirit guide, said that it won't be over until we conquer the terrorists in 2019

Post by Ashiana24 on Apr 17th, 2008, 12:05am
My spirit guide said that the ship is there to change the base of time. By speeding up time
it can see the future and then change the future that is to come. It already stopped the
terrorist from exploding a nuclear bomb on NYC. This ship is an American ship. The ship
is over Iraq to stop chemical bombings.
Hi Raven,
As time goes on, I can see more and more countries with nuclear capabilities which makes me think a
nuclear attack is inevitable. I hope and pray to God that any future attacks will be thwarted, including
staged attacks meant to harm a country's own citizens.
~ Ashiana

Post by ZETAR on Apr 17th, 2008, 01:25am
HEY ASHIANA24,
I'M WITH YOU ALL THE WAY ON THAT...
MY INFO FROM THE EARLY NUCLEAR COUNT WAS CIRCA MID 1960'S WE HAD ENOUGH
WEAPONS TO DESTROY THE WORLD OVER 316 TIMES...THE POINT THAT I WAS TAUGHT
WHEN THIS INFO WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WAS..WHAT AN OVERKILL...I MEAN
WHEN ONE BULLET WORKS WHY ALL THE EXTRA...IN CASE WE MISSED THE FIRST 100
TIMES
THERE ARE HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS THROUGHOUT TIME OF POWER OBJECTS FROM
CHALICES TO CRYSTAL SKULLS....THOSE WHOM HAVE DONE THEIR ANCIENT
TRANSLATION AND HOMEWORK KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PORTAL....I'M THINKING
IT NOT TO BE THE ONLY ONE BUT BY FAR ONE WHICH IS NOT 64,000 FT. DEEP...
BUT...THE SHUTTLE RESEARCH LED TO THE POINT IN IRAQ AND CIRCLING THE GLOBE
WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPOUTUNITY TO VIEW ANY OTHER POINT OF ORIGIN...AND NONE
WERE NOTED. THEREFORE,THE PIECES BEGIN TO STACK UP AS TO WHY AND WHERE AND
POSSIBLY WHOM AND IF A STARGATE ...WHAT WE MAY BE IN IRAQ FOR IN LIEU OF
NO...WMD'S,NO ARMIES OF THE BASE EXCEPT BLOWBACK FROM HESITAION WITH
SADR,NO CHEMO OR BIO WEAPONS...AND THE BILL OF GOODS AFTER KUWAIT AND FUEL
PRICES PLUMMETED AND THIS WAS AGAIN EXPECTED...WELL EVEN THAT EXPECTATION IS
NOW IN HIGH GEAR FOR PRICE SPIKES WITHOUT A HURRICANE KATRINA...AND THAT
SEASON IS IN SIGHT NOW ALSO...SO IT SEEMS WE ARE THERE FOR SOMETHING YET TO
BE BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC...CERTAINLY ISN'T DEMOCRACY WITH THE BILLIONS IN
GRAFT AND MERELY POCKETS OF THOSE APPERING FOR THE MEDIA AS IF A RULE OF LAW
EXISTS...
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by Nephilim on Apr 17th, 2008, 03:46am
That is a very good point ZETAR. Very interesting. It does seem a touch overkill to bring the world to
the brink of collapse for mere greed, or any of those other things which we know are not the reason.

Post by hyundisonata on Apr 17th, 2008, 04:54am
Interesting post, first I will come to the defense of the American and British soldier, I do not accept the
war as a legal war it is a war based on lies.
The soldier is following orders as he is trained to do, he has two things on his mind and that is to
achieve the goal set to him and survive the conflict, he has to cope with an influx to his brain of
adrenalin ,he has to cope with the anger and hatred he feels when watching his comrades die
,sometimes very horrible slow deaths so yes over reacting violently to captives would be expected
and he is not the villain it is you me and every one who voted for the people who sent him there to
this illegal war that is responsible.
I also note this statement is one sided and no mention of the torture and violence carried out by the
Moslems was mentioned and as there public record of the violent treatment of lets say criminals by
stoning to death or chopping of hands and heads in public is anything to go by I shudder to think what
they are doing out of the public eye.
The video of the pillars of light, below each on the ground seems to be a bright area does any one
know the town in the video and is there any data regarding seismic activity as earth quakes are very
common in Iran.
I would expect ET to be present in Iraq as the war would draw his attention just as it has to the rest of
the world.
As for star gates the Russians have been prominent in this area for some time in fact the 1800s and if
any such thing was found in Iran they would have shipped it back to Russia a long time ago.

Post by Johhn on Apr 17th, 2008, 08:38am

Ko, my spirit guide, said that it won't be over until we conquer the terrorists in 2019
raven-
can you be more specific about the "terrorists"?

which terrorists are you talking about?

Post by dickyblack on Apr 17th, 2008, 10:43am
Hey
This is in bible speak I know. I feel it is relevent.
Look at it with our perspective, star=angel (a bright light in the sky) =ufo
my mistake earlier rectified:
We are in the 7th seal of rev:...... this is the 5th trumpet.
All these events begin once the fifth trumpet is sounded:

Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from
heaven to the earth, and to him was given the key of the
bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit, and
there arose smoke out of the pit like the smoke from a
great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened
because of the smoke of the pit. Out of the smoke there
came locusts upon the earth, and they were given power
like scorpions of the earth have power. (Revelation 9:1-3)
Satans Rise to Power
In prophecy, stars are symbolic of angels. One simple example of
a star that is misinterpreted by the world of traditional
Christianity is the one that led the wise men to Bethlehem, where
the Messiah was born. Traditional Christianity pictures this as a
literal star over the little town of Bethlehem. Yet, most people do
not know that it wasnt a literal star in the heavens, but an angel
that directed them where to go.
The star in Revelation 9:1 refers to Satan. Johns vision
represents Satans (ARCH ANGEL Lucifer, anunnnaki..db) fall from Gods presence to his
banishment
here on earth. Satan, and those angels who rebelled with him
against God, have been limited in the power they once were
given. They have been restrained by God. This restraint from
power is symbolically pictured by chains and a place of restraint,
like a prison. The key is symbolic of being released from these
restraints.
Satan has been allowed to exercise powers of influence over
mankind, primarily in the form of feeding mans own greed for
wealth, power, illegal self-gratification, etc. Now, at this very
point of end-time tribulation, at the sounding of the Fifth
Trumpet, Satan and the demons (angels that rebelled with Satan)
will be released from their restraints and will be able to exercise
far greater power and influence over mankind than before.
Nations and religions already desire to exert power and evil on
earth, but Satan will move them to follow their evil desires more
quickly.
In actuality, God ( Elohim) will be accelerating a natural course of
events that would otherwise be spread over many more years of
intense suffering, war, and evil on earth, which would result in
far greater destruction. If God did not speed up these events, as
revealed through the Seven Trumpets, and limit this time to only
three and one-half years, then all life would be erased from off
the earth.
Some authors I found that I have not read yet

re stargate, William Henry, Shelden Nidleand Jelaila Starr.
db

Also of intrest:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/7808/page1.html
A second sphinx, destroyed by lightning.?

In the Egyptian Museum there is a stela called the "Inventory Stela", which proves that Cheops saw
the sphinx and it also mentions that lightening struck the tail of the nemes headdress of the sphinx
and destroyed it. To the south the lightening also burnt a sycamore tree. The area between the
sphinx and the tree is empty today (I believe this is where a second sphinx lays buried), it could have
also been struck by the same lightening causing it great destruction,
I had just briefely read through a doc stating that a 'templar symbol' O with /\ '120 deg portion
removed
is inscribed on the doorway to the tomb.
In a very intresting article..have to look more at that.
Do You Know'O Whats Going "On"?

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/2077
db

The terrorists are the ones with the nuclear and chemical bombs. There is all kinds of loose nuclear
material out there and right now no one is controlling it. Things will only get worse. I can't reveal all
that I know on this forum.

Hey
Just read this :
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=122642
The purpose of the project was to establish whether or not the danger from Timeline 2 - in which the
2012 pole shift was set to occur, according to information communicated from time traveling future
humans - had been averted.
Those familiar with Dan's testimony in our previous interviews (and also summarized here) will know
that it was learned from the future humans that it was Stargate and Looking Glass technology that
had precipitated the catastrophe by amplifying the energetic effects from micro-wormholes
encountered as the Earth journeyed through a particular region of space (which, on this timeline in
which you are reading this page, we are approaching now).
db

ok raven (and db)

thanks.
Think for yourself dickyblack, don't follow someone else or believe a word of what you hear without
thinking about. 2012 never was going to be a catastrophe. It is, and was always meant to be, a shift in
consciousness. It is not the end of the world. I have heard the end of the world by this point in my life
so many times it is laughable.

Hi RTW
I don't believe a word, I do think for my self, ok sometimes confused .. but we all look for clarity.
I was going to put with that post that i thought it was disinformation, but who am I to influence the
thoughts of others?
From my jumbled searchings, at the moment, I feel that regarding 2012. there will be a pole shift, the
earth will tilt as we align with the centre of the galaxy.
It will cause turmoil on the planet, and a new human consiousness through the vibrations in our dna
via the sounds\magnetic changes.
I try to look at everything put it into perspective as I see it and fit it into my scenario...or changge my
scenario if the proofs are strong enough.
Yes, I will probably still be asleeep when everyone else has gone....but you gotta try.
I want to be as prepared as I can be for the new consiousness, thats why i look, I ve just started,
mistakes I can live with..Im no expert.
db

Post by LoneGunMan on Apr 17th, 2008, 4:39pm
DB, I think your exactly right. I get opinionated way too much, but its healthy to have a large dose of
skepticism/confusion/wonderment, all at the same time to get through to your true thought process.
Divinition of the facts and concepts takes its toll.
Lone

If want to stop thinking for yourself and do exactly as you are told there's always fundamentalism.
Dickyblack 2012 is going to be a POSITIVE event. The pole shift, according to Edgar Cayce et al,
was supposed to have happened in 1999.
rtw
rolf..
Yes I feel it is positive I dont know how, I dont know why.

I ve read books ie timothy good dulce papers some of jrod files tesla, bible proofs every video, photo
,documentary, news tickertape, disclosure project, every twist and turn of every search Ive
done(accidentally mostly) every unlikely story, until I m satisfied of its relevance.
I look every where. followed number 11:11 links to see what I could find, though Im not affected.
Fact ..I know how to get to the garden path
I have no other physical proof.
just know there is something.. ITS THE DUALITY IN EVERYTHING, LIKE DESIGNED TO
CONFUSE.
so.. I know nowt.
db

Duality is a delusion. See through it. There is no such thing as separation. Everything is one, it all
energy. What did God have to create the universe out of? Energy. Einstien proved this with his
famous equation E=mc2. The uranium in the A-bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima proved that you
can transform material substance into energy. Start to see everything as energy. If you burned you
computer the energy in the materials would be released. The gas in your car becomes energy that
gets you to your destination. Once you start to see this way, you will see things from a higher
consciousness and all delusions of duality will fade away.

Hi Folks -
Here is some basic research concerning the area of subject [Ancient Sumer,
Sumaria/Mesopotamia/Modern day Iraq]
One of the first Sumerian cities founded in southern Mesopotamia was named Eridu.
Eridu (or Eridug, modern Tell Abu Shahrain, Iraq) was the earliest city in southern Mesopotamia,
founded ca. 5400 BC. Seven miles southwest of Ur, Eridu was the southernmost of a conglomeration
of Sumerian cities that grew about temples, almost in sight of one another. According to Sumerian
mythology, Eridu was founded by the Sumerian deity named Enki, later known by the Akkadians as
Ea.
According to the Sumerian kinglist Eridu was the first city in the world. The opening line reads
"[nam]-lugal an-ta d-d-a-ba
[eri]duki nam-lugal-la"
"When kingship from heaven was lowered,

the kingship was in Eridu."
Source:
[Eridu]
By the late 4th millennium BC, Sumer was divided into about a dozen independent city-states, whose
limits were defined by canals and boundary stones. Each was centered on a temple dedicated to the
particular patron god or goddess of the city and ruled over by a priestly governor (ensi) or by a king
(lugal) who was intimately tied to the city's religious rites.
Source:
[History of Sumer]
Biblical name for Sumer, is Shinar...
Shinar (Hebrew in`ar, Septuagint Sennaar) is a broad designation applied to

Mesopotamia, occurring eight times in the Hebrew Bible. In the Book of Genesis 10:10, the beginning
of Nimrod's kingdom is said to have been "Babel, and Uruk, and Akkad, and Calneh, in the land of
Shinar." The following chapter, 11:2, states that Shinar was a plain settled after the flood, where
mankind, still speaking one language, built the Tower of Babel. In Genesis 14:1,9 Shinar is the land
ruled by king Amraphel, usually identified with Hammurabi who reigned in Babylon. "Shinar" is further
mentioned in Joshua 7:21; Isaiah 11:11; and Zechariah 5:11, as a general synonym for Babylonia.
If Shinar included both Babylon ("Babel") and Erech, then "Shinar" broadly denoted southern
Babylonia. Any cognate relation with umer, an Akkadian name used for a non-Semitic people who
called themselves Kiengir, is not simple to explain and has been the subject of varied speculation.
The Egyptian term for Babylonia / Mesopotamia was Sngr (Sangara),[1] identified with the Sanhar of
the Amarna letters by Sayce.
Source:
[Shinar]
In the video below, proclaimed ET contactee Alex Collier pells out a couple of maps of UFO bases...
listen to the areas as he names:
Iran, Egypt, Sudan, and several others around the globe. The video is an edited version and thus cuts
out much of the location information which I found frustrating but there is a bit of info nonetheless...
oh yeah he also named Tibet.
[Alex Collier on UFO Bases]
Connections?

Post by raventhewitch on Apr 18th, 2008, 12:52am
Nephilim I contacted my spirit guide and she said that you are definitely on track. The portal to hell is
located in Akkad.

Post by candyfloss on Apr 18th, 2008, 04:59am
i was looking into haarp this week and it is claimed that it can do the job of the pole shift as well as
messing up the weather.

Post by hyundisonata on Apr 18th, 2008, 08:02am
Sorry guys you are all miles off track especially Alex collier, the worlds real area 51 is Scotland and
always has been and did you not notice he never mentioned it .
The American military has bases all over Scotland and no one gives it a second look.
Not that I am complaining as it is the safest place to be in the world, every thing is controlled from
here all the worlds finances have to go via Edinburgh and believe me they are ruthless as I have
crossed swords with the Edinburgh mafia (worlds banking cartel)and it was not a nice experience.
In fact two miles from me I have a semi underground complex that are developing germ and
biochemical warfare, every disease known to man is on my door step, we have the greatest scientific
brains here, we have research centers all over and all highly funded.
We are plagued by UFO, we have constant sightings, and we have the American air force testing
secret aircraft, building super runways.
We have harp and it has been here over twenty years that I know about, I could go on and on as the
list is endless.
I think that if you all stop following biblical references of gods and devils and start seeing through the
disinformation you might just start seeing what is really going on and where to start looking.

Hey
Raven thankyou for that advice.
since it was a long time since my school science, I reexamined E=mc2 on a basic level here:
http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/files/emc2/emc2.html. (for other 's intrested).
I had a vivid memory of a chem prof demonstrating the energy released burning a bag of crisps (chips
i think in America).
A higher consciousness,through knowledge, I think is what we are all trying to achieve here.
I liken myself to someone stood at a road junction with many forks, travelling a part of one,finding a
maze,so trying a different route- some might say traveling in circles.
Ive been on this road nearly 30yrs on and off like a reluctant tramp (hobo? man of the road.)
Every now and then somthing happens and my intrest\search begins again.
This time, by a pair of magnets I bought for my daughter, I just cannot stop fiddling about with. I ve
had them in my pocket for 3weeks now.....energy eh?
thanks again.
Back to subject. nice work nephilim.

spend the eve looking through'
db

HEY NEPSTER,
GEEZ...IN THE INFO OF SUMER THERE WAS AN ACCOUNT AS TO THEIR VIEW OF THE
UNIVERSE....THEY VIEWED THE UNIVERSE AS A "FLAT DISC WITH A TIN DOME ON TOP"....
NOW WHAT DOES A FLAT DISC AND ROUND DOME MAKE ONE THINK OF
MY STUDIES IN ANTHROPOLOGY IN VARIOUS THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES GARNERED SOME
INSIGHTS.
THESE INSIGHTS WERE BASED ON INFLUENCE OF HIGHLY DEVELOPED PEOPLE OR THOSE
WITH SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY AND HOW THIS INFLUENCED IN A DARWINISTIC MANNER.
PRETTY MUCH AN ISOLATED AREA WHOM ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGED DUE TO WHAT.
MY OBSERVATIONS WERE FROM AN ISLAND COUNTRY WHICH PREIMARILY USED A
MACHETE AS THE COMMON TOOL.
GERMANS THROUGH AN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD TO FLEE GERMANY TO OTHER
LOCATIONS VENTURED THROUGH THIS REGION.
ONE COULD SEE THAT THIS AREA UTILIZED A HAND SAW AS THEIR MASTER TOOL IN LIEU
OF SURROUNDING AREAS STILL RELYING ON THE THE MACHETE...
WHEN I HIKED AND DROVE THROUGH THIS REGION I THOUGHT THAT WAS MOST UN
USUAL BUT QUICKLY CONNECTED THE DOTS AS THE POPULOUS CONSIDERED THAT A
SAW WAS MORE EXPEDIATE TO CUT WOOD AND MANY OTHER TASKS THAN A MACHETE...
I DRAW AN ANALOGY TO SUMER AS THEY SEEMED TO BE SOMEWHAT ADVANCED AND
WHOM INFLUENCED THEM...
THEIR VIEW OF THE UNIVERSE WITH THIS DISK WITH A TIN DOME ON TOP MAY BE A CLUE
HEY NEPSTER...VERY GOOD RESEARCH.

I THINK THAT THERE IS MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE HERE AND A CAUSE AND EFFECT OF
HOW THIS AREA IS A FOCAL POINT TO THIS ALLEDGED PORTAL...WHAT THAT MAY BE
REQUIRES ONE TO FINE TUNE THEIR RESEARCH AND CONNECT THE DOTS TO SOME
COSMIC EVENT.
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by Belizeman on Apr 18th, 2008, 09:45am
Db,
Magnets in your pocket and the magnetic strip on your credit
cards love to play with each other!!
Can you say "wipe out!"
Happened to me.....had to order new cards!

Hey
Nephlim, useng you 'Eridu' as a search...(thought i heard that name somewhere before)
foud these.
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/eridu.html
Are Bush and his cohorts lusting after ERIDU in Iraq?
http://babel.massart.edu/~tkelley/v5.0/eridu/
depicts the temple.
The link in the second box down contains some intresting remarks. (abu sharhain)
db

Hey Belizeman
Yeah Im aware of that thanks though.
db

AKKAM
Plenty of sites on search, most say much the same..

that not much is known as the city has yet to be excavated.
http://www.geocities.com/garyweb65/akkad2map.html
sorry guys dont know how to post map.
Akkad: King Sargon the Great,

http://history-world.org/sargon_the_great.htm
According to a folktale, Sargon was a self-made man of humble origins; a gardener, having found him
as a baby floating in a basket on the river, brought him up in his own calling. His father is unknown;
db

Hey
http://www.geocities.com/engvaj/Sumerians.html
Hey just a passing muse while reading the above.

If ' those were the days that God walked with man.' the Elohim, then sumer must be the garden of
Eden?
so if God cast the satan into the bottomless pit,(wormhole.perhaps) it must be in the area?
what say you guys
db

HEY DB,
THANKS FOR THE INPUT...I THINK WE ARE ON TO SOMETHING...FROM THE SHUTTLES
DEMISE AND THEIR RESEARCH TO THE LOCATION OF ONE OF THE ORIGINAL CITIES POST
FLOOD...BY MANY HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS...THIS AREA IS OF AN EMMENSE COSMIC
PROPORTION...
THE OVERTONES OF WHY MUST BE ASKED ...WHY IS THERE SUCH AN CONCERTED
EFFORT...
IS THIS THE PORTAL OR THE GATEWAY FROM WHICH THE ANNUNAKI MAY RETURN?
IS THERE AN EFFORT TO IMPEDE SUCH RETURN?
DOES IT COME DOWN TO WHOM WANTS TO RETAIN POWER AND CONTROL?
IS IT A PURIFICATION OF SPIRIT WHEREIN THOSE WHOM HAVE CONTROLLED THROUGH
THE VEIL OF MATERIALISM ARE FIGHTING THE RETURN AND'OR EVOLUTION OF A
DIMUNITION OF THIS MATERIALISTIC PARADIGM...IS THIS THE EQUINOX WHICH MANY HAVE
INTUITIVELY FELT?
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THOSE IN CONTROL WITH THEIR VESTED INTEREST WHOM HAVE
HINDERED RADICAL CHANGE...FEW TIMES WHEN SUCH CHANGE HAS OCCURED HAS
THOSEWHOM WERE IN POWER HEDGED THEIR BET AND AIDED IN THAT CHANGE...THE
REALLY SMART ONES DID JUST THAT...BUT THIS IS A RARE SCENARIO AS THAT
FORESIGHT IS OBSERVED IN SUCH A MINISCULE GROUP.
THESE ANCIENTS UNDERSTOOD THE COSMIC FORCES THAT TODAY MANY ARE UNAWARE
OF...AND THAT IS RELATED TO THE DISTRACTIONS PRESENTED BY MANY,MANY GROUPS
AS WE LIVE IN A CORPORATE OLIGARCHY.
WE AS PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED FROM INDIVIDUALS TO TARGET MARKETS OR CONSUMER
GROUPS DEFINED BY DEMOGRAPHICS AND WHICH TREND MAY BE THE MOST
PROFITABLE.
THERE IS A FINE LINE BETWEEN CREATURE COMFORTS OR MATERIALISM AND COSMIC
MAINTENANCE OR NURTURING ONES SPIRITUAL SIDE WHICH HAVING RECOGNISED A
COSMIC AWARENES OR ONES THIRD EYE....IT IS MUCH LIKE A MUSICIAN WHOM WANTS TO
BE A VIRTUOSO GUITARIST BUT FAILS TO PRACTICE...JUST LIKE ANYTHING AND ONES
COSMIC SKILLSET...YA USE IT OR YA LOOSE IT
I CONTEMPLATE THE MANY CIVILIZATIONS WHOM HAVE UNRAVELLED THE COSMIC
PUZZLE AND LATER LOST IT.
HEY HYUNDI.
YOU MAKE MANY EXCELLENT POINTS.
I DO THINK THAT YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER A DISMISSAL OF ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS AND
THEIR DISCOVERIES.
SURE ...OUR TECHNOLOGY IN MANY AREAS IS SUPERIOR TODAY TO THOSE OF
YESTERYEAR...OR WE CHOOSE TO THINK THAT...I CAN'T CONCLUSIVELY SAY THAT FOR
THE ATLANTEANS OR OTHERS WHOM WERE ON THAT TYPE OF EXISTANCE/CALIBER...
I EQUATE SUCH STATEMENTS SIMILAR TO THOSE ADOPTING THE VIEW THAT MAN IS THE
MOST INTELLIGENT SPECIES ON EARTH...BY-IN-LARGE THIS IS SO... BUT THE DATA
TRANSFERRED IN THE SAME TIME FRAME OF SPEECH FROM A HUMP BACK WHALE OR A
DOLPHIN FAR EXCEEDS THAT OF MAN AND REALLY... WHAT COULD THEY BE SAYING...
YEAH I SEE YOUR ARGUMENT THAT WE CAN TRAIN THOSE SAME DOLPHINS TO STRAP A
BOMB ON THEIR BACK TO PICK OUT AND ADVERSARY AND SEND SAID DOLPHIN IN TO BE
BLOWN UP...I'M SURE THAT DOLPHIN FUNCTION ON A VAST DEGREE OF TRUST AND
ROUTINE TRAINING... I QUESTION WHETHER SUCH A DOLPHIN WOULD PROCEED IN A
SUICIDE MISSION IF IT NEW THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE.
WELL ...THE SHUTTLE BEING DESTROYED...THE RESEARCH OF FASTER THAN LIGHT
SPRITES AND ELVES...THE LOCATION FROM A TRIAGULATION OF AN EPICENTER OF THIS
ENERGY IN IRAQ...THE COINCIDENCE THAT SAID ENERGY SOURCE COINCIDES TO ONE OF
THE ANCIENT CITIES(SUMER) OR (ERIDU) FIRST POPULATED FOLLOWING NOAH DOCKING
HIS ARC...CONFLICTS OF THE ANNUNAKI AND THE ILLUMINATI IN THIS SAME AREA AND/OR
REGION...
GEEZ SORRY I TOOK A ROUND ABOUT WAY TO GET TO THESE POINTS OR OPINION...BUT
SOMEONE TOOK AN EXTREME EFFORT WITH THE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA TO CONTINUE TO
VEIL THE THE TRUTH...
HEY RTW,
I'M UNSURE OF THE SHUTTLE UNLOADING NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON CHINA...NOT TO
ASSUME MUCH OF THE SATELLITES IN ORBIT ARE NOT OF OR ABLE TO BE USED
MILITARILLY.
WELL FROM BIBLICAL TIMES WHEN JOSEPH'S ABILITY TO INTERPRET DREAMS TO THE
RULING ELITE TO THE GERMANS OF WWII AND THEIR DESIRE FOR A SUPER NATURAL
CONNECTION TO BOLSTER THE ARYAN MOVEMENT TO RONALD AND NANCY REAGAN
HAVING THEIR DECISIONS TEMPERED BY SPIRITUAL ANALYSTS...SO TOO ARE OUR
PRESENT ELITE AND THEIR SKULL AND CROSS BONES PLAYING IN THEIR VIEW OF WHAT
IS TO BE....WILL IT EMPERICALLY COME DOWN TO A BATTLE BETWEEN THAT ILLUMINATI
AND THE ANNUNAKI....ONLY TIME WILL TELL
SHALOM...ZETAR

Hey
Zetar...message recieved and.......working through it
Guys : todays scenario casting Anunnaki as the baddies.

what if... pre history...On Earth..Elohim the great creator..after centuries of living with created
anunnaki had a'civil war'
Led by king Saragon...he took so many of the cities and the new people slaves (us) turned to worship
them.
The Elohim,our owner, in his wisdom, decided to leave us to free choice, and withdrew (turned his
back).
Warning(via revelations etc) that he\they would return and there would be hell to pay.
Casting the anunnaki into the pit,(wormhole).and banishing them using the watsitsname asteroid belt
as a shield. And as a 'parting shot' wiped the earth clean with a flood (did you read the part where
they archaologists were carbon dating the water marks on the base of the sphinx?)
Read at least the first chapter of this page and tell me what you think. link at the bottom of passage.
George Green
Now you must come into the understanding that there is a passage through this experience for
mankind, but you must move into a creative stance, not a resistive posture. This is not what is
expected of you based on your past modes of experience. I can assure you that your history has
been analyzed and studied by minds and computer model to the point that you are known to an
extent you cannot even imagine. Every reactive scenario has been dissected to the cellular level and
restrictive actions planned for each of them. You are faced with the possibility of your extinction
unless you can make a cosmic leap to a level of creative imagination that will completely nullify those
plans. Have you not computers of your own? Can you not band into creative discussion groups and
ask for entry into the mind of that which created you? "Where two or more of you are gathered
together in my Name (within the focused desire for harmonious understanding), there am I also."
http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=60
http://www.projectcamelot.org/george_green.html

They don't care about getting the demons back. You must realize how arrogant and Satanic these
people are. They would kill millions without so much as a second. They could open Pandora's box
and not be about to control it. Demons, being the lying SOBs that they are, might not do their bidding
once freed.

Interesting posts in this discussion. Below are some google earth pics... When I first typed in "Akkad"
it took me to Sudan instead of Iraq:
Below are some photos of modern day Babylon, which was rebuilt during Saddam Hussein's era, as
he likened himself to that of Nebuchadnezzar [Hussein actually thought he was a reincarnation of
Nebuchadnezzar].
Babylon Palace:
Tammuz Mountain, Babylon:
Below; observe the three mountains in/around Babylon and their positions:
Baghdad to the north, Babylon to the south, in the pic below:

Hey
A further 'connection' to my scenario. God's war with Anunnaki. I did'nt realise.
Iraq..formerly mesopotamia.later Assyria,(Anunaki) enslaved the (lost)10 tribes of israel, when they
fell out of [/[i]i]favor with the Elohim, (Biblical proof?).
ELOHIM...Knights Templar? ANUNAKI..illuminati.
Crusades anyone?
db

NEPH.
Look at the time between my posts.
Iposted the above , read yours briefly, googled Nebucachezzer. and came to this:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=154&letter=N
In 598 Nebuchadnezzar himself came westward, took Jehoiakim (II Chron. xxxvi. 6) and probably
slew him, casting out his dead body unburied (Jer. xxii. 19, xxxvi. 30), and carried captive to Babylon
3,023 Jews (Jer. lii. 28). He placed Jehoiachin, the dead king's son, on the throne. Three months
were sufficient to prove Jehoiachin's character (Ezek. xix. 5-9). He was taken with 10,000 of the best
of the people of Jerusalem and carried to Babylon.
with whom he took part in the expedition of the Assyrians against Hezekiah, being one of the few who
were not destroyed by the angels before Jerusalem (Sanh. 95b). He came to the throne in the fourth
year of King Jehoiakim of Judah,
db

AND MORE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezekiah
William F. Albright dates his reign to 715-687 BCE, while E. R. Thiele estimates the dates 716-687
BCE. Under either of these chronologies, Hezekiah ruled the southern kingdom of Judah during the
conquest and forced resettlement of the northern kingdom of Israel by Sargon's Assyrians. Judah
absorbed many refugees from the northern kingdom during Hezekiah's reign, about a hundred years
before the destruction of Solomon's Temple by Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonians
He introduced religious reform, reinstated religious traditions. He set himself to abolish idolatry from
his kingdom, and among other things which he did for this end, he destroyed the "brazen serpent,"
which had been relocated at Jerusalem,
db

Hi DB, Folks -
Here is another thing I found along the triangle of Babylon... along the western lint runs right into the
Tower of Babel! Tower of Babel is pointed to by the white arrow:
Tower of Babel:
DB, that is a most interesting idea you have there... I have always linked the Sumerian 'ET' to the
Elohim of Genesis Chapter 6, which in turn spawned the Nephilim... the giants of old.
In the land of Canaan was a main place of settlement for these various tribes of the Nephilim in the
post Flood era... It should be noted here that it was also the descendants of Ham who found their
residence in this same area and created the city-state of Canaan. Is Ham, son of Noah, the key link
between the Nephilim and Canaan in the post Flood era?
Out of bondage for the Hebrews and into the desert until they came to the land of Canaan [hmmm
coincidence? I think not!] God then instructs Joshuah and the Hebrews to kill every living thing within
the land of Canaan.
Alota folks think this is the most cruel and savage of things for God to tell them to kill everything
living... but when we look at WHY, we can see these were not that of a normal human, as they were
descendants from the Nephilim, who were descendants of the Fallen Angels. Planting their seed on
the earth and maybe, who knows, that is the descendants of this so-called 13 bloodlines of the
illuminati...
This is based on the assumption that these 'sons of God' in chapter 6 of Genesis, were really Fallen
Angels.
You bring up an interesting position where this could have been a time of several ET type things
happening, perhaps even the Fallen were here at that same time. If so, this makes it even moreso
difficult to discover the truth. I think it is good to keep an open mind though as I feel it is a key to
understanding.
Much more to consider and much more research is required I think, but this is a great topic.

HEY GUYS AND GALS(DB,RTW,AND SIR NEPHILIM ),

I THINK WE ARE GIVING THE HISTORY CHANNEL A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY ON
RESEARCH,ANALYSIS, AND SPECULATION ON MANY DIVERSE LEVELS.
TO PEEL THIS ANCIENT, COSMIC LABRYNTH OF THOSE WHOM UTILIZED THEIR
ESOTERIC/COSMIC KNOWLEDGE IS FASCINATING AND OFTEN ONE WONDERS HOW THEIR
INTUITION AND INTELLIGENCE WAS SO ADVANCED...
JUST MAKES ME WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH A FRESH HOT CUP OF EARL GREY TEA OR
SOME BLUE MOUNTAIN COFFEE WITH A WARM SLICE OF BANANA NUT BREAD AND SOAK IT
ALL IN.
I'M OFTEN HUMBLED BY THE INSIGHTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR MEMBERS AND NO
QUESTION THE DIRECTION AFFORDED BT FELLOW MODERATORS...
MAN...THERE IS NOTHING LIKE WORKING AT THE SPEED OF THOUGHT....I SALUTE YOU
ONE AND ALL
SHALOM...ZETAR
P.S. D.B....I LIKE YOUR NORAD EMBLEM.SOME SAID NORAD TRACKS ONLY MANMADE
CRAFT...HOWEVER THEY SEEM TO DO AN IMPRESSIVE JOB OF TRACKING THOSE "FAST
WALKERS"

Though I'm not much of a church boy What I do know about the Bible is that the past, the present,
and the future of a land are all intertwined. What happened in the past will lead to a future that has
been prophetized. God destroyed Babylon because they had turned against him and had built a tower
with crystals that would allow them to tap into alien/demonic powers. Babylon is the great whore of
the end times. The demons never left and never will.

Hey guys
Great work on the photos Nephillim,
Seems that ANUNAKI=ELOHIM as you read further...looks like I was WRONG AGAIN did you
folllw those links to where the magnetic grid lines are mapped,and all the settlements were near by,
and they intersect in a great cluster??the page with the green highlights?
I couldnt get to the page, but I noticed a list of grid refs on a link. .....have to install google world.
Most intresting re the three constructed mountains.look new dont they?..loved the tower of babel.
That must be on part of those magnetic grids, We ve got loads more to this i think.Keep this up and
we'll be sat on the site with deck chairs andbeer and shade for the weary coalition forces I wonder if
jhonn's filtering would show anything.....look at this below.
I read some sitchin today on his site.
http://www.sitchin.com/adam.htm
They know that the biblical verses dealing with the fashioning of The Adam are condensed renderings
of much much more detailed Sumerian and Akkadian texts, found inscribed on clay tablets, in which
the role of the Elohim in Genesis is performed by the Anunnaki Those Who From Heaven to
Earth Came.
Z. Sitchin 2001
Permission to reprint is hereby

granted on condition that the
following is prominently stated:
Z. Sitchin
Reprinted with permission.
And MORE
http://www.sitchin.com/evilwind.htm
In The Wars of Gods and Men (third book of The Earth Chronicles series), Zecharia Sitchin saw an
explanation of the sudden death in a long text known to scholars as The Erra Epos, that described a
chain of events that ultimately led to the use of Weapons of Terror in a conflict between
opposing clans of the Anunnaki ("Those who from Heaven to Earth came").
AND REGARDING OUR PORTAL MAYBE:
The area in the Sinai Peninsula where the destroyed spaceport had been is indeed covered -- to this
day! -- with gravelike burnt-through blackened stones. But as Zecharia has pointed out in his book;
there are NO VOLCANOES in the Sinai Peninsula. In the Sinai Peninsula, the source of the wind-
carried dust remains a mystery.
Z. Sitchin
Reprinted with permission.
I also found there:

http://www.sitchin.com/iraq_future.htm
So the war theory was'nt far off according to mr Sitchin's theory. wrong participants, Except, I read
somewhere in last 24 hrs ' when YHWE (their spelling)and his brother ****of the Anunaki walked the
earth ?
db

Hey
ZETAR ,RAVEN
sounds good though I'll have double choc and walnut thanks, and a nice strong cappachino.
I swiped the emblem off their site (cut the lightning flashes off so its not copyright. I added the bottom
line to their slogan but too small to read.
I swopped my two faced alien,after giving thought to Ravens comments on duality.
On saying that,I'm no church boy either Raven,used to go when a kid (parental) and enjoyed it.
But I cannot understand why they are so morbid about it.
Yes Ive read that earth is the only planet that uses 'time' as we do.
Yes in our ever evolving theory,I'm now toying with one of the opposing sides of Anunnaki took the
name Elohim and what Neph said earlier, in this post I think. about Anunaki=illuminati and the 13
bloodlines of evil
+Anunnaki=Elohim\Anunnaki.
good to find someone else, more learned to back it up though.
A skilled resercher could probably trace the good\evil war right up to now...and hardly move away
from the area we are looking at.
eg I was reading a page that, off topic, I stumbled on,re royal stuarts true claim to throne of England
and Gordon Brown PM, turns out the stuarts were catholic so not allowed to take the
throne...medieval stuff.
Anyway as the story goes,this guys long line of ancestors were decendants of the pliedians and
knights templar connected.
db

Post by dickyblack on Apr 21st, 2008, 09:51am
Hey
SOLAR ULTRAVIOLET MEASUREMENTS OF EMITTED RADIATION
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/descriptions/experiments/sumer/
Many years ago a missile was developed dubbed 'Excaliber'. They bore two miles into the earth
before detonating. Some were used in the Gulf War Show. Aside from military targets, five
archeological sites were evacuated and destroyed with Excaliber missiles.
Initially these were developed for use against underground installations built ostensibly for the
American President during the 1960's for protection in times of nuclear attack. Most were turned over
to alien groups, I've heard, that eventually became less than friendly.
The area Americans loosely refer to as the Middle East is an area rich in ancient machinery and
ancient recorded knowledge. Not always machinery as people now think of it, including petrol
engines, gears and pistons - nor the silicon crystal circuits of computer machines. Nor do I mean the
time keeping devices of line and shadow found world-wide. Many of these machines are enormous
and deep underground, when not surrounded by a military base. They are machines created by the
juxtaposition of particular geometries in particular fashions. Usually based in stone, incorporating
other materials--Washington DC is laid out in a similar fashion to these large devices. Maps are
available online showing the intentional geometry of the city's layout.
db

Post by dickyblack on Apr 21st, 2008, 3:36pm
testing so dont worry
failure.

Post by candyfloss on Apr 22nd, 2008, 08:46am
Hyundasonata ,you had some really interesting things to say about Scotland .Please could you tell us
more?I'm sorry guys I just don't buy it.It's true that Sumeria =heavy magic and the root of alot of
things mystical but you are forgetting this is real conflict and people die and have died.Here's my
tuppence worth-the West needs a base in the Middle East to operate militarily,Isreal is'nt enough
although useful,to oppose the Jihadists etcWe need oil and we can't rely on the Saudis long
term.Getting rid of Saddamm was a happy bi-product of political and military expedience and at the
end of the day who knows what is where but it's useful to know the world is'nt black and
white.Sometimes people have to do horrible things to survive,just be glad your not one of them ie
resden.

Post by Nephilim on Apr 22nd, 2008, 1:04pm
Hey DB, send me that link and I'll see why that did not work? I am thinking the address is not full? i
tried it too but did the same thing.

Post by raventhewitch on Apr 23rd, 2008, 1:16pm
Let me try it
Post by raventhewitch on Apr 23rd, 2008, 1:18pm
It clicks but it goes to the reply box. What is this supposed to be DB?

Post by Nephilim on Apr 23rd, 2008, 3:47pm
ah I see what happened.
Just wrong address is all

Post by dickyblack on Apr 23rd, 2008, 4:57pm
Hi raven,
Neph trying to teach a 1 candle power brain a trick.
db

Not to worry DB, I had troubles at first and still sometimes goof it up.
Here are some pics of the ancient spots of Sumer.
Below is Babylon [North], Ur [Northeast], and Eridu [Southwest]:

Below is the two ancient cities of Eridu [Southwest] and Ur [Northeast]:
Eridu close-ups:
Not much to see, and can't get a closer/clearer shot than this, but we see roads leading to and fro,
indicating some level of activity there.
Below, Ur [along with some other pics from google earth folks]:
Ur continued.
House of Abraham, in Ur:

Other pics of Ur:
Post by ZETAR on Apr 23rd, 2008, 11:00pm
HEY NEPSTER,
EXCELLENT WORK MY FRIEND.
SOMETHING THAT IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND IS WHETHER SUMER IS LOCATED ON
"LEY" LINES.
THE OTHER FACTOR IS WHAT MAY BE DEEP UNDERGROUND COVERED FROM CENTURY
AFTER CENTURY WHICH MAY...IF UNCOVERED WOULD REVEAL
SPECIFICS OF WHY THIS PARTICULAR SPOT WAS/IS SO HISTORICALLY,COSMICALLY, AND
MILITARILLY IMPORTANT.
I MUST SAY WE ARE BLESSED WITH SUCH CURIOUS AND SPECULATIVE
MINDS...MOREOVER THOSE WHOM ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW THOSE BREAD CRUMBS TO THE
TRUTH.
IT WAS STATED EARLIER THAT WE MUST DO THINGS WHICH ARE UNSAVORY FOR OUR
SURVIVAL AND I VERY MUCH AGREE.OFTEN ONE MUST IMPLEMENT THEIR PHILOSOPHY.
IT MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN THAT THERE ARE OBJECTIVES IN EXECUTING SUCH
MANEUVERS WHICH OFTEN ARE NOT OBVIOUS OR RATHER CLANDESTINE.
IT'S A VERY COMPLEX GAME OF CHESS BEING PLAYED.
I DO LOOK AT SOME OF THE NON CLASSIC PHILOSOPHERS AND ONE WHOSE CANDLE WAS
SNUFFED PRE-MATURELY WAS JIMI HENDRIX...HIS RETORT DURING THE SIXTIES WAS..."YA
CAN'T ALWAYS BELIEVE THE THINGS YOU HEAR AND SEE...CAN YOU?"
I THINK THAT MANY THINGS HAVE HIDDEN AGENDAS AND LIKE GFORCE HAS SAID MANY
TIMES WHICH I FIND PEOTIC REASON IS LIFE IS LIKE AN ONION WHICH HAS MANY
LAYERS...
I MUST SAY AGAIN THAT OUR FORUM IS MADE UP OF THE CREAM OF THE CROP WITH
MEMBERS WHOM ARE ABLE TO PEEL EACH LAYER OF THE ONION BACK UNTIL THAT
HEART OF THE TRUTH MAY BE EXPOSED....
ONWARD AND UPWARDS MY FRIENDS
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by candyfloss on Apr 24th, 2008, 4:00pm
Hey guys ,I thought you were all talking bollocks until I I ended up learning about the Earth's chakras
to day and lear'nt that one of them is in Iran and it's called something like khulmal halaxya,searched
for ages could'nt find itbut i found this-look up The Iranian website and put Takht-e-Soleyan into the
sites search enginealso on 'weavers' website there is a description of how different chakras around
the world are activated in cycles so time may be of the essence.check it,talk to me

Nice work. Whats underneath that temple? Those steps with the triangular archway go down to
something. The temple could guard a well or some other door to hell.

Post by Nephilim on Apr 24th, 2008, 7:40pm
Hey Folks -
ZETAR, that is a challenging proposal
Raven, I am not sure but I bet a search into the Sumerian customs would lead to a clue, I need to do
more studying about this era myself.
Below the two red arrows point to what indicates the person taking the photo is in another pyramid
shaped entrance straight across from the other, there may be several... or were at least. this is
reconstruction for the most part I would imagine... curious as to who is funding the reconstruction of
the ancient cities... the same people who allowed the museum in Baghdad to be 'looted' after the fall
of Saddam? Maybe, maybe not:
The photo below, the arrow points to the top flat surface, if looking from above direct, you'd never
notice the structure. The more I look at these recent photos, the more similarities I see with the Moon
and Mars photos.

Where do those steps go down to? Are there any pix inside?

HEY CANDYFLOSS,NEPSTER AND RTW,

THE AREA THE SEEMS TO BE THIS COSMIC PLAIN ENCOMPASSES AFGHANISTAN,IRAQ,AND
IRAN...ASIDE FROM THE OBVIOUS GEO-POLITICAL NECESSITY OF TODAY...THERE HAS
BEEN AN ANCIENT COSMIC IMPORTANCE OF WHICH WE SEEM TO REACHING FOR THE
GOLDEN RING TO SNAG AND REVEAL OR OPEN PANDORAS BOX.
NASA,THE MILITARY,ALONG WITH NUMEROUS SUPPORT STAFF AND UNIVERSITY
RESEARCHERS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INVESTED IF THE PHENOMENA OF THIS ENERGY
WHICH WAS STUDIED TO BE FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND ACCLAIMED TO
EMMANATE FROM SOME VORTEX,GATE,PORTAL IN IRAQ IF IT WERE NOT OF AN EXTREME
VALUE...
SHALOM...ZETAR
HEY
Good photo's Neph
Been looking back at some shuttle stuff.....apparently they had some ALIEN tech..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2735007.stm
Nasa inquiry chief takes control
The agency has moved away from the theory that insulation foam seen to peel away from Columbia's
external tank on launch and hit the vehicle's left wing was responsible for the accident.
Top secret device
Reuters news agency reported that around the town of Bronson, near the Texas-Louisiana border,
hundreds of national guardsmen joined federal agents and volunteers to search for what was
believed to be a top-secret device from the shuttle.
Also there is a good post at omf INC 1 of the 5 photo's of the 'lightning strike', to the shuttle, I did'nt
copy the photo, the thread is worth a look.
'I think it's not an unfair conclusion to assume that some covert experiments done by STS missions
have broken long standing agreements made with some sort of ET confederation and thus in
response the PRIME DIRECTIVE of non-intervention in the [monkey] bizniz of a developing planet
was *also* broken and the Shuttle zapped as a token kind of example.'
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/?board=ufosandextraterrestrial&action=display&thread=1254&pa
ge=1
Inc the tether experiment.
I was trawling and found this....Illl look for a link.
What the U.S. Is Doing to Preserve the Artifacts
In December, the U.S. military knew it had to take steps to preserve the archaeological treasure trove
that is Iraq. They set out to locate the approximately 10,000 (some estimate 100,000) sites, some
going back 7,000 years, and many of which are unexplored. The area around the ancient
Mesopotamian city of Ur and the Assyrian city of Ninevah are considered especially important.
Archaeologist McGuire Gibson from the University of Chicago and Charles Butterworth of the
University of Maryland lead the team that has been passing information to the Pentagon.
(http://www.riyadhdaily.com.sa) Europe/The Americas Wednesday - 25 December 2002 "US
Looking for Ways to Protect Iraqs Priceless Antiquities"
I was also investigating .......'the eye in the sky'..a portal? we've heard it many times throughout
history, thought id google it....
There is a legend re some 'cart tracks' in ancient greece,involving the god apollo, if i remember right,
Anyway the tracks are deep grooves 'like lightening' cut into the rock, possibly to harness the power
'of the heavens'. we know that the caps were exposed land at ancient times, because of the
maps.......
Is it possible, that (here we go again with the magnets)
solar power,harvested via the natural pole conduits, into the earths magnetic grid and.............phew!
Hey just got this:

But it turns out the northern polar cap is the area where the sun's magnetic field and Earth's magnetic
field connect. In other words, it's a portal for charged particles streaming from the sun to be swept
toward Earth, says McWilliams, one of the radar's primary users.
The more charged particles that get into Earth's field, the more energy builds up. McWilliams likens it
to a water balloon: "At some point, it's going to break."
(unless there is a conduit?db)
When it breaks, the result is the brilliant displays of aurora borealis across the night sky.
Tie that with the ancient enormous 'machines U.S. is looking for....power supply.
Hit me with sincronicity.. todays aurora
http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/auralert.html
came on the alert watch I have set...look at the date.
gonna have a look if its not too cloudy.
ramblings
db

Hey
found some pics
Although they are called 'cart rut' investigators have proved that they have not been made by wheels.
But they are man made.
db
Hey Neph.....1 watt ?
DB nice research. Post that Columbia stuff on the Columbia board.

Sorry,'The Iranian' website is misleading ,You have to scroll down to see the pictures and write up
,just in case you thought I was making a joke as it looks like there is nothing there.

Hey DB, you had some nice photos up what happened? you deleted?
Hey folks - I've been trying to locate this article I have saved [somewhere ] and it talks about this
small device which was found in the ruins of an ancient city of Sumer... the device gave an electric
charge of about one volt when acidic grape juice was applied by filling the small container on the
device... they dated it to the ancient times... bugs me I cannot find it... I was trying to remember the
exact location and dates...

Try googling ancient battery and youshould get some pics as well.There is a small sect who live in
Italy who claim to have created a portal to travel back/forth timewise who claim one of them put it
there to prove time travel exists.

Hey
Is the 'acidic battery' for the acid dance music?....shake yer grapes baby.
Its probably on the same site where all the archeological sites are map ref 'd too. and I can't find that
either.
I wrote those 'cart tracks' were man made.....I meant NOT.

they cannot explain how they got there... T here are many .in many countries. and under the sea.
If there is anything of 'religous' importance it probably had a temple built on top, mabe two or three by
now.
Job for indianna then....
db

Hey
Guys....AND CANDY
maybe this video shows why there will be no actual 'hole or portal' to be found.
Or it could just be a marked area..like a pattern on a wall.
Bear with me..I know you probably seen the vid before and shrugged it off....I did twice.
Now its been investigated, this is a two parter short though....very intresting.
[click here]
Hey Neph..gotta be 2watt now

db

Post by hyundisonata on Apr 26th, 2008, 6:57pm
Sorry fake as they come, who first off all films two boys playing football at 2am, you will also notice
the camera man stays put he doesnt run up and zoom in ect its all too false

Hey
HYUNDAI.. what about the radiation then??
If you had watched all the video...you would have seen/heard how 3 diffrent 'experts' have tested the
site and taken samples.
Its easy to shout fake...I DID WHEN 1ST SEEN.
explain the 'long arm'...
If your mate came running away in fear....would you immediatly go closer to take pics?
An open mind is what is called for....see the whole vid.
db
translation of boys chat:
When the boy kicks the ball away and the other goes over to pick it up, he runs back saying
"something touched me, something touched me",the boy holding the cam responds "stop messing
around" (stop pulling my leg in other words, the boy that is grabbed continues to say there is
something there that touched me. then they all say lets get out of here when the "alien" peaks back
out at them.
I DON'T THINK THE PORTAL WILL BE SOME HOLE BUT MORE ALONG THE LINES OF SOME
VORTEX AND/OR IF EXCAVATED SOME ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY...
I ASSURE YOU THAT THE EXSPENSE OF DESIGNING A MINIATURE NUCLEAR POWER
SUPPLY UNIT JUST TO POWER THAT INFRA RED CAMERA SOLEY TO GET A SHOT OF
THOSE SPRITES/ELVES AND ATTEMPT TO TRIANGULATE IT'S POINT OF ORIGIN....THAT
THERE IS AN APPLICATION ENVISIONED FOR SAID PHENOMENA...
MY QUESTION IS WHAT MAY BE THE CONNECTION WITH OFF WORLD ENTITIES WITH SAID
PHENOMENA...HAS IT BEEN PROTECTED BY THEM....DOES WHOM CONTROLS THIS
GATEWAY CONTROL ACCESS TO THIS DIMENSION WITH THOSE WHOM MAY UTILZE THIS
DIMENSIONAL HIGHWAY?....
IS THERE A VULNERABILITY PRIOR TO ENTERING THIS GATE,VORTEX, OR PORTAL WHICH
WHEN UPON INGRESS OR EGRESS OF SAME MAY ALLOW THOSE TO BE AFFECTED BY OUR
OFFENSIVE TECHNOLOGY....
WITH INTELLIGENT SPECIES...THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON....THEREFORE,THE BEAM
WHICH HIT THE SHUTTLE AND COINCIDENATALLY UNCONVENTIONAL CRAFT JUST
HAPPENED TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GROUND AND SPACE CREW STATED THAT
THEY FOUND THE ORIGIN FOR SOME ENERGY SOURCE.... IS MORE THAN COINCIDENCE....
JUST THINK OF THE FACT THAT THEY MAY HAVE FOUND AN UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF
POWER WHICH HAS LASTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS WITH VIRTUALLY NO
MAINTENANCE....THOSE WHOM CONTROLLED THAT WOULD BE VERY POWERFUL AND
VERY RICH....
ON THE OTHER HAND IF WHAT WAS FOUND WAS A GATE THAT MANY HAVE USED FOR
EONS AND WE ATTEMPT TO CLOSE OR CONTROL IT...SOMEONE MIGHT BE VERY,VERY,
MAD
WHAY SAY YOU?
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by Nephilim on Apr 27th, 2008, 3:09pm
Hi Folks -
Concerning ancient battery:

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/parthian_battery.php
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
Concerning info on sprites, elves, and Columbia:

http://sky-fire.tv/index.cgi/spritesbluejetselves.html
http://scitation.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_54/iss_11/41_1.shtml
The ancient Egyptians had electricity so a battery isn't so hard to believe.

Post by Nephilim on Jul 16th, 2008, 12:43am
I bump this up so that the newer members can see

Post by ZETAR on Jul 16th, 2008, 02:44am
SPLENDID INDEED SIR NEPHILIM...

GOOD TO SEE YOU FLAMES AND ALL... ...BACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN
SHALOM...ZETAR
P.S....THERE DOES SEEM TO BE AN EFFORT TO OBTAIN THIS ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY...IT

SEEMS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS

Post by Nephilim on Jul 16th, 2008, 03:15am
Yes, the keys to many mysteries, and no doubt much power too

Post by raventhewitch on Jul 16th, 2008, 1:57pm
The Masons are said the have an anti-gravity device that they had for many centuries. I saw a picture
of it but I'm not sure that it works.

I WAS READING ON ANOTHER SITE WHICH STATED THAT ALIENS WOULD COME THROUGH
A WORM HOLE TO INVADE EARTH.
THE THREAD IS ON "ATS" AND INDICATES THE KORAN STATES THAT ALIENS WOULD
RETURN THROUGH A WORM HOLE TO INVADE EARTH.
I FIND THIS INTERESTING IN THAT IT IS SIMILAR OR REFLECTS WHAT THIS THREAD IS
ABOUT.
HERE'S THE THREAD AT "ATS"...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454085/pg1
READ AND COMPARE THE SILMILARITIES...OH...IT'S A FIGHT WITH THE GOG AND MAGOG
AND THE THREAD AT CASEBOOK SEEMS TO DEAL WITH A PORTAL/STARGATE WHICH IS
BEING SOUGHT TO STOP THE RETURN OF THOSE AT ODDS WITH THE ILLUMINATI...
ANCIENT WRITINGS AND NO DOUBT RUMORS ARE BASED ON SOME DEGREE OF TRUTH...
SHALOM...ZETAR

Post by Aurelien on Apr 20th, 2009, 3:46pm
You can find portal everywhere in the world and maybe in space too.
The portal are possibly located in majority in the seismic area. The great energy curve and facilitate
the travel. In Iran you have a great seismic activity.
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=towers&action=print&board=towers&num=1204610619
Hanging Gardens of Babylon: Did They Exist?

digital art by Sergy Lekhachev
Elevated gardens probably did, but likely not in Babylon. Too bad because I wanted to include the gardens in the novel
I'm currently writing set in ancient Babylon. Sadly research not only confirms the things we've always 'known', it also
destroys some of our romantic notions.
Early in my research I came across the diary of Gertrude Bell, a British writer and adventurer who accompanied Robert
Johann Koldewey, the German architect and archaeologist who became famous for excavating much of Babylon.
On March 31, 1914 Gertrude wrote, "So we went to Esagila (temple of Marduk, patron god of Babylon). The outer lines
of the temple have been found by subterranean diggings. They have left the inner cella which K (Koldewey) wants to dig
out completely. So down to the Parthian houses which he would very much like to dig. The very long colonnade is
possibly an agora. The Hanging Gardens were built by Nebuch. for a Susan. wife to remind her of her mountains! But
the gardens were not planted high up. They were low down beneath the vaulted substructures. It is still possible that
they may be found in the Babil mound."
supposed site of the Hanging Gardens of Babylon - photo by Raymond Kleboe
Although a vaulted structure was found at the northeast corner of Babylon's massive southern palace, its fourteen large
rooms and thick walls probably housed a royal storehouse. A Babylonian ration list was found within the
structure, confirming its logical use. Instead of being the underpinnings for the magnificent Hanging Gardens it was likely
merely a giant storage facility.
The Greek historian, Herodotus, supposedly visited Babylon around 450BC but in describing all the amazing buildings
and sites of the city he did not mention the Hanging Gardens, which according to legend would have been magnificent
and higher than the city's soaring walls.
So, how did the story start? Where did it come from? Stephanie Dalley in The Mystery of the Hanging Gardens of
Babylon: An Elusive World Wonder Traced, posited an interesting theory. That Josephus, the first century historian, may
have been misled by a novelist! How cool. A writer living in south-west Turkey in the first century wrote a novel
containing the theme of a woman abroad, crossing the Euphrates from the west and homesick for her native land.
The theme of homesickness is unknown and unlikely in Babylonian and Assyrian literature and Babylonian gardens were
described as being set in flat areas. However, the description does match a type of elevated garden made in Nineveh at
the palace of Khorsabad by Sargon II, father of Sennacherib. He said, "a high garden imitating the Amanus mountains in
which are planted all the aromatic trees of northern Syria, all the mountain's fruits, I created alongside (Khorsabad)"
A stone panel carved in bas-relief and found in the palace of Sargon at Khorsabad, shows such a garden, possibly even
the very garden he described. Here it is below. The carving is difficult to make out so I've also included a drawing I found
that makes it easier to see and enjoy.
But what did Nebuchadnezzar have to say about it? Nothing. Nothing at all. Found by Sir Harford Jones Bridges in
Babylon, an engraved column of black basalt bears Nebuchadnezzar's own description of his building efforts. And while
he mentions the walls he rebuilt and fortified, the gates, temples, shrines and palaces he built, there is no mention of
any garden. Discovered to the north of the palace was an enormous elevated reservoir. For the garden? Evidently not.
After detailing his rebuilding of the palace of My Royalty for the land of Babylon he simply says, and a depth of waters I
collected.
Below is a photo of a vaulted water conduit next to the palace taken by Gertrude Bell while she was in Babylon. This
conduit likely carried the water from the reservoir into the palace buildings.
The legend of the Hanging Gardens of Babylon is no doubt untrue, as it is unsupported by archaeology or the kings of
Sumer and Akkad. Disappointing but I guess it's better to get your facts straight before attempting to write historical
fiction. Fictitious characters are fine, fictitious history not so much.
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