Written version of ShivBaba’s murli vcd 1255 (the highest level)

The text of the murli

XXX – parts of the sakar murli
XXX – ShivBaba’s commentaries
Om shanti. Today we have the morning class of 27.09.68. The spiritual Father sits and explains to the spiritual children. He is spiritual,
but the word ‘sit’ was applied. It means that Supreme Soul Spirit sits in some body and explains. The bodily being in whom he sits and explains is
also spiritual, however he is also a bodily being (dehdhari). When he remains in remembrance, he is spiritual. When he doesn’t remain in
remembrance, he is a bodily being. But who explains? The one who explains is the spiritual unlimited father. The one who again and again is in
the stage of physical consciousness (jismani stage), doesn’t explain. [The one who explains] explains to the spiritual children. Only those children
who sit in the stage of spiritual consciousness (ruh ki stage) understand. When you sit here, you remember one Father, because that Father is
the one who purifies the impure ones (patit pavan). Your aim of remembrance is becoming pure from impure souls. Your aim is to become pure
and satopradhan by remembering only that one. Why was it said ‘that one’? The one who spoke was sitting in the body of Brahma. It is the
Supreme Soul who speaks, so he should say ‘me’. Why didn’t he say, ‘You will become pure by remembering me, because your aim is to
become satopradhan’? He didn’t say so, because Brahma in whose body he entered wasn’t able to be soul conscious since the beginning till the
end. His body conscious stage (deh ki stage) is strong till his death; that is why he has to be bound in the bondage of the subtle body. That is why
it was said, ‘by remembering that one’. By remembering whom? ‘That one’, meaning he made him remote. He made a hint about the future, ‘In
the future, the permanent charior (mukarrar rath) in which I enter and explain.. It is about that one’. That is your aim of becoming equal to the
Father. It is not that your aim is [to reach] the sato [stage]. No. The aim is to become satopradhan. It is [the aim] of becoming satopradhan. That
is why you have to certainly remember the Father. This Brahma is not the Father. That one in [whose] body in which I sit and explain is your real
father , the spiritual father. The bodily being is not you father. The spiritual father in [that] bodily being is the one who explains. That spiritual
Father is a resident of the Sweet Home. So, you also have to remember the Sweet Home, because you have to go there. Then, wealth and
inheritance are needed. That is why you also have to remember your paradise, the Abode of Happiness. Because finally you have to receive it.
What? Paradise. The children know, ‘We have become the Father’s children. Exactly in the same way we will receive teachings from the Father
and go to paradise. We will go to paradise number wise, according to the spiritual efforts.’ What does it mean? What does it mean ‘we will go to
paradise number wise’? It means that you won’t go all together. Some will go earlier, some will go later. Apart from you, the other living souls
(jiv ki atmaen) will go to the Abode of Peace. Then, they will keep coming here number wise. All certainly have to go home. Those who will go to
paradise will go home, and those who won’t go to paradise also have to go home. So, the children have to remember that in order to go home
they certainly have to become pure. You have to go to the Abode of Purity. No impure one can go there. Ravan’s kingdom is here, isn’t it? The
children also know that now it is Ravan’s kingdom. In contrast to it the Golden Age was named ‘Ram’s kingdom’. Why were these names
‘Ravan’s kingdom’, ‘Ram’s kingdom’ given? What is their connection with [these] names? Why wasn’t paradise given the name ‘Ravan’s
kingdom’? Because Ravan has many opinions and Ram has one opinion. Ram who is giving one opinion [he is a source of one system of opinion]
is incorporeal. He doesn’t go to paradise. The corporeal Ram in whom he enters assimilates that one opinion. That is why Ram and Ravan are
compared. So, understand that half of celestial degrees are reduced in Ravan’s kingdom. Before that, it is said that there are the Sun Dynasty
and the Moon Dynasty. In the Golden Age and the Silver Age there are the Sun Dynasty and the Moon Dynasty. Just like there is one Dynasty of
Christians, in the same this is also one dynasty, but there are Sun and Moon Dynasties in it. These things are not in scriptures. The Father sits
and explains these things. It is called gyan meaning knowledge. Once paradise is established, there is no need of knowledge. The children are
taught this knowledge in the Elevated Confluence Age. Definitely this should be written in your centres and big museums, ‘Sisters, brothers, this
is the Elevated Confluence Age (purushottam sangam yug). This age comes only once. The Confluence Age comes only once in the cycle. And the
Father comes only once. It is not that he comes every age (yuge yuge). They don’t understand the meaning of the Elevated Confluence Age. Its
meaning should be also understood. It is the age when the highest actors among purusha meaning souls are revealed. The mala [garland,
rosary] is being created, isn’t it? That mala is remembered in every religion (dharm). So, it should certainly be written, ‘This is the confluence of
the end of the Iron Age and the beginning of the Golden Age.’ The Confluence Age is the most beautiful of all ages. It is beneficial. There is
benefit for all people in this age. Not only for the human souls. The souls of all living creatures experience benefit. So, the Father also says, ‘I
come only in the Elevated Confluence Age to bring about benefit.’ So, you children also have to explain the meaning of ‘the Elevated Confluence
Age’. The Confluence Age means the end of brothel (vaishalay) and the beginning of Shivalaya [The House of Shiva]. It is called ‘confluence’. All
here are vicious. There, in Shivalaya, all are free from vice. The ones who become free from vice will certainly called ‘the most elevated’. Among
human beings (manushya) deities will be called the most elevated. Over there, in the new world, both man and woman become the most
elevated (uttam). That is why the name ‘purushottam’ [the most elevated among souls] is given, because both become the most elevated. No
one apart from the Father knows these things. It is said purush uttam, maryada purushottam, isn’t it? This is the Elevated Confluence Age,
where you children become bound in the code of conduct (maryada) in order to go to paradise. No one even thinks about when the Elevated
Confluence Age comes. Now, the Father has come. That one is the seed form of the human world of creation. It wasn’t said, ‘I am the seed form
of the human world of creation. What was said? That one is the seed form of the human world of creation. That human being in whose body I
come as in the permanent [corporeal] form is the seed form of the human world of creation. It is that one who is praised so much. That is the
Ocean of Knowledge, the Ocean of Bliss, the one who purifies the impure ones. When? When the Supreme Soul Father enters him as in a
permanent [corporeal] form. This is knowledge. It is through knowledge that it comes to the true liberation (sadgati) of all. What is the main

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knowledge? What is the main ignorance? The main knowledge is, ‘I am present in one (ekvyapi). I come in [my] permanent chariot. I am not
omnipresent (sarvyapi). You won’t be able to say that it comes to the true liberation through devotion (bhakti). Devotion has been lasting from
2500 years. No one has experienced the true liberation. The true liberation takes place only through knowledge. It has been also written in the
scriptures Rte gyana na mukti. If there is no liberation (mukti), there is no true liberation (sadgati) [lit.: the true motion; i.e. the liberation in life]
either. All experience the true liberation through knowledge. There is the true liberation in the Golden Age. So, it will be definitely said that it is
the end of the Iron Age and the beginning of the Golden Age. The Father explains to you so clearly. New [children] are coming here. They keep
coming in the exactly the same way as they came a cycle ago. In this way the capital has to be established. You children know, ‘We are God’s
servants.’ God’s servants meaning that we are serving the world according to the God’s elevated direction (shrimat). God comes himself to
serve. When children need service, they call the father. You are the true servants of God. He won’t teach only one. Only one teaches. Then, you
learn from him and teach the others. That is why God’s University has to be open here, in Bharat. Why does it have to be open? Because he
comes only in Bharat. Why was the name Bharat given? The name Bharat was given on whose name? What is the basis of giving the name
Bharat? [Students: The work.] The work…What work? Bharat. ‘Bha’ means light, the light of knowledge. ‘Rat’ means the one who is engaged in
something. The one who is engaged in the light of knowledge for the entire life is named Bharat. So, is it about the non-living Bharat or is it
about the living Bharat? First it is about the living Bharat. So, he makes you children God’s servants through that one. That is why the university
has to be open here, in Bharat. A university like this doesn’t exist anywhere in the world. The world doesn’t know either that there is some
university [like this]. Now, you children know that Shiva God of the Gita comes and opens this university. Which university? This is your true
university. Universe means the entire world. This is the only university from where all humanity benefits. The entire humanity is taught. One
[person] doesn’t study. Those one give the name ‘university’. Do they bring about the well-being of the entire universe? Does it come to the
well-being of the entire world? Now you know that only deities will become maters of the new world, but it comes to the well-being of the
entire world. You have become satopradhan at this time. You have to become satopradhan. You became this at this time, didn’t you? Now you
are tamopradhan. It doesn’t matter that some are kumar (bachelors). Kumari (virgins) also are pure. Sannyasi are also pure. However nowadays
that purity doesn’t exist. What kind [of purity]? Nowadays that purity doesn’t exist. What kind [of purity]? ‘That one’ - it was a hint about when?
It was a hint about the Golden Age. The purity that exists in the Golden Age doesn’t exist nowadays. Yes, you have to become pure. Like Lakshmi
and Narayan. In the beginning, when the soul comes, it remains pure. Later on, it becomes impure. How? In the beginning, when it comes, it is
pure. Then, after coming here, it [becomes] impure. How? [Students: The colour of the company.] It comes under the influence of the company
and pollution enters it. It becomes impure. Sanyasi were very pure earlier. Now, they are not pure either. Now you know that everyone has to
pass through satopradhan, sato, rajo, tamo. At the end the souls of all the religions become tamopradhan. Now the Father sits before you [ lit.
face to face] (sammukh) and explains. This Tree is in tamopradhan stage of rotting. It has become old. So, the old Tree has to be certainly
destroyed, because it is the Tree of the variety of religions.
The second page of the class dated 27.09.68. That is why [people] say ‘Virat Lila’. It is a big unlimited Tree. Those trees are non-living.
Their seeds are also non-living. This Tree is the Tree of the living human world of creation. Its seed is living. You know that the kind of the tree
that grows depends on what seed you sow. So this is the picture of the Tree of Variety, of various religions. Then, is there one seed or are there
various seeds? Is there one seed or are there various seeds of the Tree of the entire world human creation? There is only one seed. Then, how
does variety come into existence? What is the reason of variety coming into existence? There is a seed. If that seed is sowed in mountains…
Suppose , it is a potato seed. It will be sowed in mountains… Then, it will be sowed in lowlands. And then, the same potato seed reached
Southern Bharat and was sowed there. The potato seed in Southern Bharat started producing gas. The potato seed grown in mountains is very
good. There are no diseases because of it. What is the reason? [Students: Earth is different.] It is the difference in earth. So, this is the living
seed, all right. However, there is the difference in earth. The difference was made at the very beginning, in paradise (svarg). There are two clans
in paradise – the Sun Dynasty and the Moon Dynasty. So, it has been shown in the scriptures that when it was the beginning of the world,
Kashyap Rishi gave birth to deities and to devils, meaning daitya. Why? The seed is the same. Why were various offspring born? What was the
reason? [Students: Earth.] Because the mother who is earth had various sanskars and natures. Diti, meaning the one who has sanskars of
breaking [laws]; she is an adulterated earth. And [there is] Aditi, meaning the one who has sanskars of gathering, putting together. [People] also
say that if the earth of the house [i.e. mother, wife] is good, she will unite the entire family; she will make them united; the entire house will be
in unity. If the earth is not good, the atmosphere in the entire house becomes like in brothel. So, here also there is only one seed of the entire
human world of creation, but depending on what kind of earth it falls, its form and its creations differ. So, the picture of variety has been made.
All of them [are] humans, but look, there is such a variety of them! That is why it is said ‘Virat Lila’. You also know how all these religions come
number wise. You children know this too. What does it mean ‘religion number wise’? It is said, ‘Old is gold.’ The older the religion is, the more
truth is contained in it. The newer it is, the less powerful it is. So, all have to go back number wise. The souls come to this world number wise
and play their roles, and all have to go back number wise. Then they have to come back again. This is a preordained drama. This is a wonderful
drama. There is only one wonderful drama in which there are such a tiny souls and such a tiny Supreme Soul, but such a great role is recorded in
them. After combining two words param and atma it is said paramatma [supreme soul]. What? What’s the difference after combining two
words? Just like it is said, ‘good, better, the best’… Just like it is said in English ‘the best’, is the same way in Hindi it is said uttam te uttam [the
highest]. So, the soul that plays the highest role among the souls, among the souls playing roles, was called what? Paramatma. You called that
one ‘Baba’. You don’t call me ‘Baba’. You call that one ‘Baba’. Why? Don’t we call ShivBaba ‘Baba’? Who is the one speaking here? Shiva is
speaking. He says, ‘You call that one “Baba”.’ You don’t call me ‘Baba’. In reality, I am a point. I as a point [lit. my point] am called ‘Shiva’. I am

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not your Baba, meaning grandfather. Am I the grandfather of you souls-points? A father of a point and then the father of that point…? Is it like
this? It is not like this? All of you are souls-points. You are spirits. And you have the spiritual father. So, one spiritual father has a connection of
the father and child with all the spirits. I am not you grand father. I am not the one who is called great-great grand father. Who is that? The one
in whom I enter as in permanent chariot is your great-great grand father. Abraham, Buddha, Christ are great. They are great religious fathers.
However I am not their direct father. I do not teach them. Do they study? Do they study from the Supreme Soul? No! From whom do they study
then? From whom do those religious fathers and their followers receive kingdom? Do they receive it from me? Do I give the kingdom of the
vicious world? Do I give it? I do not give it. Then who gives it? [Students: Great-great grand father.] Those ones receive kingdom from their
corporeal father. So, I am an unlimited father and the one in whom I enter is also an unlimited father of the human world of creation. He is
called Adam; he is called Adi Dev. So, he is your Baba in reality. I am not your Baba. However, when I enter him, both are combined and called
ShivBaba. No one says, ‘BabaShiv’. First is Shiva, then Baba. [People] say ‘Shiva-Shankar’ Do anyone say ‘Shankar-Shiva’? No one say
‘Shankar-Shiva’. [People] say ‘Parampita Paramatma’. Do they say ‘Paramatma Parampita’? Why don’t they say so? Because I am the Supreme
Soul who teaches the Paramatma, the one who has the main role [among the souls]. So, the children know that it is the soul that plays the
entire role. Humans do not know this. What do the humans know? Humans consider themselves as bodies, so they think ‘we bodily beings are
actors’. Actually, the body is [like] a piece of cloth. The soul that sits in this body is an actor. So, humans say, ‘The soul is free from being stained
(nirlep)’. Meaning, impurities don’t accumulate in the soul. Why do they say so? They think that the soul is imperishable that is why there can’t
be any change in the soul. The body is perishable; that is why the body becomes stained, so they go to bathe in the Ganges, in order to make the
body clean. Now, the Father tells you that this body is physical clothes Physical clothes can be washed in physical water. However, the living
soul that is in the clothes, in the clothes in the form of the body. The living soul can be only purified with the water of knowledge. The Father
alone comes and gives that water of knowledge. So, in the reality that word ‘nirlep’ [not being stained] is wrong. Why? Why is it wrong? Arey! It
is the soul that is stained. Since, it is the soul that is stained, is the body influenced or not? The body is also influenced. Impurities accumulate in
the soul and the soul becomes tamopradhan. So, the body becomes ill too. So, you should write in big letters, ‘The soul is not free from being
stained. It is the soul that is stained. Depending on what kind of deeds the soul performs, good or bad, it receives the fruit according to them.
Because of bad sanskars [people] become impure. Then they go before deities and praise them. Now you have come to =know about 84 births.
No other human being know the cycle of 84 births. You speak about 84 births based on evidence. What? People speak about 8 400 000 births,
[saying that] the human being passes through rebirths in 8 400 000 species, but they don’t speak based on evidence. You count and tell them
that there are 8 births in the Golden Age, 12 birth in the Silver Age, 21 births in the Copper Age and in the Iron Age the average lifespan become
very short; that is why there are 42 births. There is one birth in the Confluence Age. All together there is the cycle of 84 births. No one in the
world can bring evidence of the 8 400 000-birth cycle. You say that all these scriptures are false. Why? Is the scripture a creation or is it a
creator? [Students: It is a creation.] It is a creation. If a creator is false, [his] creation will also be false. Were the ones who created those
scriptures humans or were they God? [Students: They were humans.] Do the religious father who come and establish their religion (dharm)
write scriptures? Did Christ created the Bible? Did Guru Nanak write the Guru Sahab Granth? No, they didn’t. Did Muhammad write Quran? No,
he didn’t. They speak directly, through the mouth. Later on their followers sit and write. Are the ones who write complete [perfect] or was it
their religious father complete in his religion? The religious father was complete in his religion. Apart from him, whatever creation of that
religious father comes into existence later on will be weaker, won’t it? Compared with the creator, the creation is always weaker. That weakness
is revealed in those scriptures. So, all the scriptures are false. Because humans are vicious, defects are contained in the scriptures. It was heard
that the human beings passes through rebirths in 8 400 000 species. Now the Father sits and explains that there are 8 400 000 species, but the
human soul doesn’t pass through [rebirths] in 8 400 000 species. Why doesn’t it pass [through rebirths in those species]? What is the reason?
Arey! If all sins can be experienced in the human species, if all kinds of sorrow can be experienced, why should they need to go in other species?
Is it the human being who experiences more sorrow and happiness or are the other species more sorrowful and happy? Humans are more
sorrowful and happy. Why? Because the human being has more organs. How is sorrow and happiness experienced? Through the organs. So,
because the humans have more organs, they are more sorrowful and also more happy.
Actually, it is the Gita itself that is the jewel of all the scriptures. Is the Gita a creator or is it a creation? Hm? [Students: A creation.] It
is a creation. The Gita is a mother. The mother is a called a creation of a man. She is his first creation. So, the creator is the God Husband of the
Gita (Gita Pati Bhagvan). Now that Creator Father is teaching you raja yoga. He also taught you 5000 years ago. This has been written in the
Mahabharata scripture. How many years ago did the war of the Mahabharata take place? 5000 years ago. This is true. However, it is a lie that
God came at the end of the Copper Age and brought about the war of the Mahabharata. One thing is true, another one is false. Why is it false?
It is false, because… If God is supposed to come at the end of the Copper Age, will he established the sinful Iron Age and leave? Does God come
to uplift [the world] or does God come to cause degradation? He comes to uplift [the world]. Otherwise, who would believe in God? The entire
world remembers God. Certainly God came and brought about the well-being of the entire world. There is no well-being of the entire world in
the Iron Age. There is no [well-being of the entire world] in the Copper Age either, because after the Copper Age the Iron Age comes. There is no
well-being in the Silver Age either, because after the Silver Age the Copper Age comes. There is well-being in the Golden Age, but when does the
instrument of bringing about the well-being in the Golden Age exist? It certainly exists before the Golden Age. Which age is before the Golden
Age? It will be said that it is the Iron Age. So, the Father comes in the confluence and the Iron Age and the Golden Age, and establishes the new
golden aged world. Over there, in the golden aged world all are pure and perfect in 16 celestial degrees. All live in families. No one is a sanyasi
there. At this time the household won’t be called ‘ashram’. What? Won’t the household be called ‘the family ashram’? Won’t the household be

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called ‘the family ashram’ now, in the Iron Age? [Students: No.] Why? Because all are vicious. It won’t be called ‘ashram’; will it be called
‘besharam’ [a shameless place]? The one who live in household (grihasthi) consider themselves as degraded beings (giri hasti); that is why they
touch the sanyasis’ feet. Do they consider themselves as degraded beings or as elevated beings? They consider themselves as degraded beings.
They go before deities and bow their heads. They go to temples, they go to mosques, they go to pilgrimage places… They stumble here and
there. So, they consider themselves as degraded being, don’t they? So, are they members of besharam or are they members of ashram? They go
before deities and say… What? You are pure, you are like this, you are like that, we are low, hypocrite and sinful. So, they are shameless
(besharam), aren’t they? Now, they won’t be called ‘ashram’. Who? Those who live in household won’t be called ‘ashram’. Because all have
become irreligious. From righteousness they fall in unrighteousness (adharm), meaning they become vicious. You children have understood this
play. This is the unlimited drama that repeats itself every 5000 years. No one can understand the issue of hundreds thousands years. This is like
yesterday. You were in the House of Shiva (Shivalaya), today you are in brothel (vaishalaya), tomorrow you will be in the House of Shiva again.
The Golden Age is called Shivalaya. Why? Shiva means God and alay means house, meaning the House of God. So, God you be present in the
House of God. If the Golden Age is called Shivalaya, is God present there? God is not present there. Then, why is it said ‘Shivalaya’? [Students;
God establishes it.] Yes, because Shiva comes and established that House, where Shiva’s children, deity souls rule. The Silver Age is also called
Shivalaya. The Silver Age won’t be called vaishalaya [brothel]. You know how many years you will leave there. You have to pass through rebirths
anyway. These [Golden and Silver Ages] are called Ram’s Kingdom. There is no trace of vice (vicar) there. What? There is no trace of what? Vi
means viprit [opposing, contradictory], kar means karya [action, deed], meaning there are no deeds contradictory to the actions that God
taught. This has been also written in the Muslims’ scripture. What? What has been written? Allah Miyan sent Adam and Hawah to paradise,
[saying], ‘Go and live in paradise.’ But he set a condition. What condition did he set? ‘Live there, but do not eat the fruit of the body.’ What? He
named that fruit ‘gandum’. ‘If you eat the gandum fruit, you will become impure. The Muslims change that meaning of gandum into gehum
[wheat]. The form is like that of the woman. ‘If you experience that form of the woman, you will fall down from paradise.’ So, there is the praise
of this thing also among the Muslims. However, the Muslims neglected that issue. That issue doesn’t sit in their intellect. There is no vice there.
No one is naked there. There is no question of being naked. The children invoked the Father, because of this, ‘O Baba, save us from being
naked.’ You will never become naked for a half of the cycle. [People] wrote stories in the scriptures of Draupadi that Draupadi was disrobed in a
big gathering. Something like this doesn’t happen and it is not a question of a single Draupadi. Here, all of you are Draupadis. The children
invoked the Father, because of this, ‘O Baba, come and save us from being naked. This Duryodhan, Dushasan are terribly insolent towards us.
This Duryodhan and Dudhasan use violence towards us.’ Certainly the Father has saved [you] from being naked. But it is not about the sari. Sari
means the clothes in the form of the body. The Father saves you from being naked for 21 births. It means that he gives you 21 saris for 21
births. Sari means clothes. Over there you will never be naked. You won’t become naked for a half of the cycle. So, look, the Father saves those
who live in household from being naked. The Sanyasi say that the happiness of paradise is like droppings of a crow. They don’t like going to
paradise. So, he comes and saves those who live in household. The Father says, ‘Live in household and remain like a lotus flower. Bachelors and
virgins (kumar kumari) remain pure. They are explained, ‘Why should you go into things connected with household life, so that you would have
to make efforts to be pure?’ God is speaking, ‘If you are to become pure, you will certainly have to accept the unlimited Father’s words. You can
live like a lotus in the household. Then, why do you develop a habit of making your children naked? What does it mean? There also some
following knowledge who say, ‘We will go to paradise, we will listen to and study God’s class, understand and make spiritual efforts. [Then] they
have their children married. So, the father rebukes you. What? You can live like a lotus in the household. If you can live [like a lotus], why do you
develop a habit of making your children naked? If you develop a habit of making your children naked, the children will pull you down. The
influence of their being degraded will affect also you. It is something very simple. The father and mother say, ‘We will go to paradise’, and they
throw the children to hell. Will the mother and father experience well-being? The mother and father cannot experience well-being. The Father
tells you, ‘You will be forced to renounce these morals/traditions of being ashamed before the society.’ The mother and father who follow
knowledge and have their children get married do this under whose influence? They are under the influence of morals/traditions of being
ashamed before the society; they are not influenced by God’s words and by God. That is why they have their children get married. The Father
tells you and emphasizes compulsion, ‘You will be forced to renounce these morals/traditions of being ashamed before the society.’ The
situation in the world will become such… These vicious natures will increase so much that people will become like monkeys. Do monkey get
married? Do they remain bound with one? Do they? No, they don’t. Here, when humans becomes like monkeys, will you like getting married?
No one will like to have their children get married. It can be seen even know. Children get married today, tomorrow they get divorced. The
daughter comes back home. Then, they have her get married for the second time. She comes back again. So, the influence of society will
become such that you will be forced to renounce these morals/traditions of being ashamed before the society. These are unlimited issues. No
one else, apart from the unlimited Father can explain them. There are many bachelors in all religions, but it is a bit difficult to remain safe,
because they still live in Ravan’s Kingdom. There are many people abroad who don’t get married. Later on, when they grow old, they get
married to have a companion. They don’t have ‘criminal eyes’ [i.e. lustful]. There are many like this in the world. They take care a lot [of their
companions]. When those die, they give them something. They give them, when they are about to die. They dedicate something for religious
aims and give something to them [i.e. those who take care of them]. They make them trustees. A too, there are great trustees who help here.
Here, there won’t be a trustee who would help those abroad. Where? There won’t be such trustees in Bharat who would help those abroad.
There are such great people abroad, such wealthy that they give something to their companions and family, and they help those in Bharat.
These are poor people. How will these people in Bharat help? Over there [people] have a lot of money. Bharat is a poor country. It is said, Ape

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pine, ghora gine. They themselves are vicious and want to by a horse. They themselves ask for alms, and asking for alms they buy a horse. They
take loans and practice devotion. The Father says, ‘You shouldn’t practice devotion like this, by taking loans and asking for alms.’ It is about
Bharat. On one side they keep receiving help from aboard, a then they keep helping other countries from here. Despite the fact they themselves
are taking. So, the others do not know what is kingdom. If you yourselves keep receiving help from the others, how can you help the others?
The third page of the class dated 27.09.68. There is one […]. They keep helping the other to gain fame. People keep taking loans.
Those who take loans are not ashamed at all. The Father says, ‘Karj to merge hai’. Look, what is the situation of the Bharatvasi like? Previously
Bharat was [like] a crown on the head. They themselves say that 3000 years ago Bharat was paradise. The Father comes and creates paradise.
You know, how the Father comes down from above, in order to purify the impure ones. That one is the Ocean of Knowledge and the One who
Purifies the impure ones. He is the Giver of the True Liberation to All. It means, he purifies everyone. ‘Everyone’ means what? [Students: The
entire world.] The entire world. The living one or also the non-living one? [Students: The living one.] All right, doesn’t the non-living one become
pure? [Students are saying something.] When the living one becomes pure, the non-living one also becomes pure through vibrations. So, there is
only one who purifies everyone. That is why he is called ‘The Giver of the True Liberation to All’. You children know that all sing songs of my
praise. I come here, to the impure and degraded world, in order to purify you. When you become pure, first you come to a pure world. It is you
who become pure, so you come first. Those ones do not become pure, so they do not come first to this world. And this one? This one means
who? This Brahma and his followers. He doesn’t become pure first either. So, what is the result? This one doesn’t come to the pure world first
either. This one too, comes later on. You experience a lot of happiness. How? Will there be a lot of happiness in the Golden Age or will there be
a lot of happiness in the Confluence Age? [Students: In the Confluence Age.] Why? [Students: There is the direct connection with the Father in
the Confluence Age.] All right, don’t you ever cry here? So, how will you say that there is a lot of happiness here? [Students: It depend on
recognition here… There is no recognition there.] Recognition? If you recognised [the Father] here, why do your cry sometimes in between?
[Students: Accounts from previous births.] Accounts? So, you are not very happy, are you? In the Golden Age they never cry. [A student:
However, Baba the happiness because of God’s coming is very great, we experience a lot of happiness.] Do you experience a lot of happiness?
And next moment? [Students: When we forget God, we experience sorrow.] You see, so put them on two scales. You experienced a lot of
happiness, then you experienced a lot of sorrow. It has become equal. What is the benefit? Is there more happiness in the Golden Age or is
there more happiness in the Confluence Age? [Students: In the Confluence Age.] Arey! {Students: The Golden…} Baba says, ‘Now the mountains
of sorrow will fall.’ [Students are laughing.] Hahahaha? [Students: Yet…] Yet? [Students: We don’t meet God in the Golden Age.] All right, you
don’t meet God, but you are happy there. There is not even a trace of sorrow. [Students: We are in the soul conscious stage there, aren’t we?]
You are in the soul conscious stage there; here you are not always in the soul conscious stage. So where is there more happiness? Happiness
comes from the soul conscious stage, doesn’t it? So, is there more happiness in the Golden Age or is there more happiness here? [Students: In
the Golden Age.] In the Golden Age there is more happiness. But he is saying something opposite. Like gurus, they speak and they [who listen]
will say ‘How very true.’ Whatever the guru said, they [will respond], ‘How very true!’ Here also, Baba is saying… Hm? You experience a lot of
happiness there! Where? [A student: The super sensuous happiness in the Golden Confluence Age.] You become pure, so you come to a pure
world first. You experience a lot of happiness there! Those ones come later, so they don’t [experience] so much happiness. Meaning, Brahma
Baba and Brahma Baba’s generation and followers won’t experience so much happiness in the Golden Age. And you? You experience more
happiness than them. Do you experience it in the Confluence Age? Arey! Doesn’t it arise in anyone’s intellect? Arey! In the near future that
Golden Confluence Age is about to come. That Golden Confluence Age has not come yet. Now, that stage of kapari khushi [happiness that is
enormous, beyond senses] hasn’t been achieved yet! All around the world will start to become a cremation ground and we will be kicking away
skulls (kapar) will go ahead in grace. We will be intoxicated. We won’t be sorrowful because of anyone’s death. It should be such kapari khushi.
There won’t be that intoxication because of the Father in the Golden Age. Here, we will experience such time, when we will be so intoxicated,
‘All these who are lying dead are not the Father’s children.’ There are the progeny of Duryodhan and Dushasan. They are the gatherings of
Kauravas and Yadavas. They are the gathering of atheists. And we? We are the Father’s children. We are not atheist indeed. We have recognised
the Father and those ones haven’t recognised the Father. So, the deities in the Golden Age will not experience the happiness we will experience.
Even now, those deities are longing for the Brahma Bhojan [sacred food prepared in the remembrance of the Supreme Father]. Those deities
who will become deities in the Golden Age, the souls like Brahma and Saraswati…. They are longing for the Brahma Bhojan. And we? If we want
we may sit and eat together with Baba. So, look, you first come to the Kingdom of Ram. You first recognise Ram. They will recognise him later
on. Then? Then, you first come to the Kingdom of Ravan. You first come to the world of happiness. No one else experience as much happiness as
you. And it is you who first come to the Kingdom of Ravan and no one else, followers of no other religion in the world experience as much
sorrow in the Kingdom of Ravan as you. So look, what a wonderful preordained drama. We are the crown on the head among the residents of
hell and we are the crown on the head among the residents of paradise. Om shanti.
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* words which Baba uses in English
[xxx] words that are added in the translation for the better understanding of the English sentences.
(xxxx) – terms in Hindi

This text is a draft of translation prepared for ShivBaba’s final approval.

Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya 5

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