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6.8.5.Case5:TransientRotorStatorMultiStageCases
ANSYSCFXenablesyoutouseTimeTransformationTransientRotorStatorinterfacestomodel
multistageturbomachineryconfigurations.Ingeneral,theTimeTransformationmethodisusedfor
smalltomoderatepitchchange,multistageturbomachines.NotethattheTimeTransformation
methodcannotbeusedwithincompressiblecases.TheTimeTransformationmethodisnot
recommendedwhentherotationrateoftherotorisverylow.
ThemultistagemodelingcapabilityoftheTimeTransformationmethodinANSYSCFXis
demonstratedbytheexamplesinthefollowingsections.
ModelingaSinglepitchratioMultistageTurbomachineusingtheTimeTransformation
Method
Modeling1.5StageswithTwoDifferentPitchRatiosusingtheTimeTransformationMethod
ModelingamultistageturbomachinewithTimeTransformationTRSandotherinterfaces:
ProfileTransformation&Stage
ModelingamultistageturbomachinewithTimeTransformationTRSandsinglesidedTime
Transformationinterfaces(STTTRS)

6.8.5.1.ModelingaSinglepitchratioMultistageTurbomachineusing
theTimeTransformationMethod
Inthisspecialsituation,whereeveryotherrowoftheturbomachinehassamenumberofblades,
wehavetechnicallytheconfigurationofasingledisturbancebeingimposedineachpassage.
Therefore,thereisonlyonepitchratiopresentintheconfiguration.Anexampleofsuchacase
wouldbeamachineinwhichallstatorrowshavethesamenumberofbladesandallrotorsrows
havethesamenumberofblades,butthenumberofbladesdiffersbetweenthestatorrowsand
therotorrows.ThisspecialcasecanbemodeledaccuratelybyusingTTcorrectiononalltheTRS
interfaces(TTTRS)betweenrows.Figure6.6:1.5stagemachinewithequalnumberofbladesin
rows1&3butdifferentthaninrow2.FlowcanbeaccuratelymodeledviaasequenceofTT
correctedTRSinterfaces.demonstratesanexampleofa1.5stageturbomachinewithanequal
numberofbladesinthefirstandthirdrows,butadifferentbladecountinthemiddlerow.TTTRS
interfaceshavebeenappliedsequentiallytothisconfiguration.
Tosetupthiscase:
1.Setthetworotor/statorinterfaces(intheexampleofFigure6.6:1.5stagemachinewith
equalnumberofbladesinrows1&3butdifferentthaninrow2.Flowcanbeaccurately
modeledviaasequenceofTTcorrectedTRSinterfaces.,theIGV/RotorandtheRotor/Stator
interfaces)asTransientRotorStator(TRS).
2.IntheOutlinetreeview,edittheTransientBladeRowModelsobjectunderthe
applicableflowanalysis.
3.Createtwodisturbancesofthesametype(TT)andassigneachofthemtotherespective
TRSinterfacescreatedinstep1.
Figure6.6:1.5stagemachinewithequalnumberofbladesinrows1&3butdifferentthaninrow2.
FlowcanbeaccuratelymodeledviaasequenceofTTcorrectedTRSinterfaces.

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Thismodelingmethodwillallowforcapturingaccuratebladepassingsignalsinalltherowsaswell
asobtainingaccuratemachineperformance.Thelimitationonacceptablepitchratiowithuseof
theTTmethodstillappliestothismodelingtechnique.

6.8.5.2.Modeling1.5StageswithTwoDifferentPitchRatiosusingthe
TimeTransformationMethod
Inthisconfiguration,eachrowhasadifferentpitchvalueortwodistinctpitchratiosacrossthe
machine,asshowninthefollowingfigure.TheTimeTransformationTRSinterfacecanalsobe
appliedsequentiallybetweentheIGVandRotor,andbetweentheRotorandStator.Thisextension
oftheTimeTransformationTRSinterfaceallowsforcapturingbothupstreamanddownstream
bladepassingfrequenciesintherotorpassage,makingthismodelingmethodusefulforforced
responseanalysis.
Figure6.7:1.5stageswithdifferingbladenumbersbetweenrows1,2&3.Flowcanbemodeledvia
asequenceofTTTRSinterfaces.

Thefollowingprocedureisnecessarytomodela1.5stageturbomachinewithtwodifferentpitch
ratios:
1.Setalltherotor/statorinterfacestobeoftheTRStype.
2.IntheOutlinetreeview,edittheTransientBladeRowModelsobjectunderthe
applicableflowanalysis.
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3.CreateTimeTransformationdisturbancesforeachoftheTRSinterfacesthatarecorrected
byTimeTransformation.
Thismodelingstrategywillallowforobtainingaccuratemachineperformanceaswellascapturing
bladepassingsignalsinrows1and2.Ontheotherhand,row3maycontainpollutedfrequency
contentduetomodelingapproximation.Thelimitationonacceptablepitchratiowithuseofthe
TimeTransformationmethodstillappliestothismodelingtechnique.
Important:ItisnotrecommendedthatyouuseTimeTransformationTRSfor
everyrotorstatorinterfacebeyonda1.5stageconfiguration.Forturbomachines
withmorethan1.5stages,werecommendthemodelingstrategyshownin
ModelingamultistageturbomachinewithTimeTransformationTRSandother
interfaces:ProfileTransformation&Stage.

6.8.5.3.ModelingamultistageturbomachinewithTimeTransformation
TRSandotherinterfaces:ProfileTransformation&Stage
AccuratemultistageperformancecanbepredictedbyusingacombinationofTimeTransformation
TRSandotherinterfacemodelssuchasProfileTransformationTRSorStageinterface(mixing
plane).Formaximumaccuracy,itisrecommendedthatyouuseTimeTransformationTRSateach
rotorpassageinlet,andaProfileTransformationTRSorStageinterfaceattherotorpassage
outlet.TheideaistominimizemodelingerrorattheTRSinterfaceswhereflowshocksmightbe
crossingbyusingTimeTransformationTRSmodelingatthoseinterfaces.Thenexttwofigures
illustratetwocommonpossiblecombinationsofinterfacesformodelingmultistageconfigurations.
Figure6.8:MultistagemodeledwithacombinationofTTandPTinterfaces.Forhighspeedflows,
theTTTRSinterfacesshouldbeplacedwhereshocksarecrossingbetweentheadjacentpassages.
Thisistypicallyhappeningattheinterfacebetweentheexitofthestatorrowandtheinletofthe
rotorrow.

Figure6.9:MultistagemodeledwithacombinationofTT,PTandStageinterfaces

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ThefollowingprocedureisnecessarytomodelmultistageturbomachineswithTime
TransformationandProfileTransformationinterfaces:
1.Setalltherotor/statorinterfacestobeoftheTRStype.
2.IntheOutlinetreeview,edittheTransientBladeRowModelsobjectunderthe
applicableflowanalysis.
3.CreateTimeTransformationdisturbancesfortheTRSinterfacesthatarecorrectedbyTime
Transformation.
Thismodelingstrategywillallowforobtainingaccuratemachineperformanceforturbinesand
compressors.However,thismodelingstrategyisnotintendedtobeusedforcapturingaccurate
bladepassingsignalsthroughoutthemachineduetothemodelingapproximationoftheProfile
Transformationmethod.ThelimitationonacceptablepitchratiosusingtheTimeTransformation
methodstillappliestothismodelingtechnique.

6.8.5.4.ModelingamultistageturbomachinewithTimeTransformation
TRSandsinglesidedTimeTransformationinterfaces(STTTRS)
Formultistagemachines,analternativetousingPTTRSorTTTRSmodelsonbothsidesofTRS
interfacesistoapplythesocalledsinglesidedTTinterface(STTTRS).TheSTTTRSinterface
modelappliesthePTmodeltoonesideoftheinterface(typicallytheupstreamside)andtheTT
modeltotheotherside(typicallythedownstreamside).
Also,youcanreversethiscorrectionifnecessary(forexample,ifyouwanttocapturesignalsfrom
thedownstreamcomponent).TheadvantageofusingSTTTRSoverPTTRSisthatSTTTRS
maintainstheupstreambladewakethicknessasitconvectsdownstream.Thismodelingstrategy
resultsinmoreaccurateaccountingofmachineperformanceandlosses.
Formaximumaccuracy,itisrecommendedthatyouuseTTTRSattherotorpassageinletand
STTTRSontherotorpassageexit.Figure6.10:MultistagemodeledwithcombinationofTTTRS
andSTTTRSinterfacesillustrateshowtheSTTTRSisusedwithTTTRSinmodelingamultistage
machine.
Figure6.10:MultistagemodeledwithcombinationofTTTRSandSTTTRSinterfaces

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ItisalsopossibletoapplysequentiallyseveralSTTinterfaces,asshowninFigure6.11:Multistage
modeledwithseveralSTTTRSinterfacesinsequence.
Figure6.11:MultistagemodeledwithseveralSTTTRSinterfacesinsequence

ThefollowingprocedureisnecessarytomodelmultistageturbomachineswithTTTRSandSTT
TRSinterfaces:
1.Setalltherotor/statorinterfacestobeoftheTRStype.
2.IntheOutlinetreeview,edittheTransientBladeRowModelsobjectunderthe
applicableFlowAnalysisobject.
3.CreateTTdisturbancesforalloftheTRSinterfacesthatarecorrectedbyeitherTTorSTT.
4.FortheSTTTRSinterfaces,theTTdisturbanceshavetobemodifiedononeofthedomain
interfacesides.OnthesideoftheinterfacenotmodeledbyTT(thePTsideasexplained
above),thesideoptionshouldbechangedtoNone.Thesettingfortheothersidecanbeleft
asitistheTTmodelwillbeappliedtothatside.Notethattheinterfacesidenameis
displayedinthetransientrotorstatordomaininterfacesBasicSettingstab.
Thismodelingstrategycanimprovetheaccuracyofmachineperformancepredictionsforboth
turbinesandcompressors.However,thistypeofmodelingisnotintendedforcapturingaccurate
bladepassingsignalsthroughoutthemachineduetothemodelingapproximationoftheSTTTRS
method.ThelimitationonacceptablepitchratiowithuseoftheTTmethodstillappliestothis
modelingtechnique.
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