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The Percentage difference chart shows that the axes are unchanged between 130 and 150 ECU's.
The Injection Quantity (I.Q) output is increased between 1 and 10 percent at high pedal %
request and high RPM. (Shown as red numbers)
Note that the 150 does not request more fuel. (maximum is 70 mg/stroke for both 130 and 150).
It does request I.Q values, slightly higher and slightly earlier than the 130.
So the limiting I.Q factor for the PD 130 and 150, via Drivers wish is 70 mg/stroke.
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The % difference chart shows that the axes are slightly changed. The Y axis (RPM) is very
slightly altered and can probably be left as the 130 one.
The X axis is alterd at the upper end to allow for higher Mass Air Flow rate.
Overall you can see that the 150 has an increased I.Q at low rpm and low Mass Air Flow rate,
but not at high rpm and low Mass Air Flow rate.
The main change is to have higher I.Q at middle to high rpm when the Mass Air flow is high.
(Last two columns)
On the 130 map the maximum I.Q is limited to 59 mg/stroke by the MAF.
On the 150 map the maximum I.Q is limited to 60 mg/stroke.
So the I.Q difference between 130 and 150 is only 1 mg/stroke.
Even if the Drivers wish requests an I.Q of 70 mg/stroke, it will be limited by the Mass Air
Flow to 60 mg/stroke maximum.
TORQUE LIMITING MAPS
First row (X) is engine RPM. (0 - 5355 rpm)
First column (Y) is Atmospheric Air Pressure (500 - 1000 mbar)
Chart data (Z) is Injection Quantity (0 - 5100) Multiply by 0.01 to see it as mg/stroke. (5600 X
0.01 = 56 mg/stroke)
TORQUE LIMITING MAP PD 130
00000 00550 00551 01000 01250 01500 01750 01900 02016 02247 02499 02750 03000 03250
08500 00000 00000 03050 03050 04000 04800 05400 05600 05500 05350 05250 05150 05100 05000
00900 00000 00000 03050 03050 04000 04800 05400 05600 05500 05350 05250 05150 05100 05000
01000 00000 00000 03050 03050 04000 04800 05400 05600 05500 05350 05250 05150 05100 05000
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The Percentage difference chart shows that the axes are unchanged between 130 and 150 ECU's
The torque limiter is Atmospheric Air Pressure dependent (First column , Y - axis). It is based
on three Air pressures, 850, 900 and 1000 mbars.
Normal sea level air pressure is roughly 1000 mbars so the ecu 's limiting will normally be
based on the last row. The other rows are designed to reduce I.Q and indirectly turbo speed at
lower air pressure.
This is to stop the turbo over-reving in thin air and destroying itself. For this reason the figures
in the first row are always lower than the figures in the last row.
At all pressures the I.Q output for the 150 is increased over the 130 from about 1900 RPM. This
is the point at which the turbocharger starts to blow.
There is no point in having a higher I.Q below this 1900 RPM as their will not be enough air
available.
The 130 has a peak I.Q of 56 mg/stroke. This only increase to a maximum of 57.50 mg/stroke
for the 150.
So the 150 injects 3 to 10% more fuel per stroke than the 130.
The Torque map limiting the maximum I.Q to 57.50 mg/stroke.
Even if the Drivers wish requests an I.Q of 70 mg/stroke, it will be limited by the Mass Air
Flow to 60 mg/stroke maximum and this will then be limited by the Torque limiter to a
maximum of 57.50 mg/stroke.
So to remap a PD 130 to 150 you can see that;
You don't need to change the Drivers wish. It already requests up to 70 mg/stroke fuel, which is
plenty.
You can change the MAF limiting (smoke) map to give more I.Q at high Mass Air Flow rates
and a little bit at low MAF & low rpm to make the engine pull more strongly at low rpm.
Beware increasing I.Q too much at low Mass Air Flow. If you do, you will get alot of black
smoke.
You can change the Torque limiting map to allow more I.Q from about 1900 rpm. The peak I.Q
must reduce slightly as RPM rise and the final column must be 0000.
You should make sure that I.Q is first limited by Drivers wish (Highest I.Q). Next I.Q should be
limited by MAF (Lower than drivers wish). Finally I.Q should be limited by the Torque limiter.
(Lowest I.Q)
Changing Injection Quantity is not a simple thing. The engine ecu contains calibration maps
which turn requested I.Q into actual fuel injection. The I.Q is made up of two main factors.
DURATION of injection and Start of Injection (SOI). So a requested I.Q must be calibrated as a
set duration of injection with a set starting point.
Duration maps (0 - 5) for SEAT pd 130 and 150 are identical, which means that they can cope
with the change of I.Q needed to go from 130 bhp to 150 bhp.
BUT
Start of Injection maps (TEN maps) are different for the pd 130 and pd 150 engines. The
example below is for SOI 0. It shows very little change and is similar to the other 9 SOI maps.
To save space I am only showing SOI 0 on this page. All 10 can be seen in the excel spreadsheet
download at the bottom of the page.
START OF INJECTION 0 (SOI 0)
First row (X) is I.Q (0 - 5500) Multiply by 0.01 to see it as I.Q in mg/stroke. (5500 x 0.01 = 55
mg/stroke)
First column is engine rpm (0 - 5000)
Chart data (Z) is Crankshaft rotation. Multiply by 0.02347 to see it as degrees of crankshaft
rotation. (2901 x 0.023437 = 67.99 degrees)
If you want to see this expressed as degrees Before Top Dead Centre (BTDC) You must take the
degree answer from 78. (78 - 67.99 = 10.01 degrees BTDC).
SOI 0 PD 130
00000 00500 00750 01000 01500 02000 02250 02500 03000 03500 04000 04500 05000 05500
00100 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02987 02987 02987 02987 02987 02987
00400 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
00800 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01250 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01500 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02855 02855 02855 02848 02837 02837 02837
01750 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02893 02870 02848 02837 02837 02837
02000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02881 02848 02826 02806 02806 02806
02250 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02890 02868 02849 02816 02795 02773 02773 02773
02500 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02881 02854 02826 02806 02773 02751 02730 02730 02730
02750 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02843 02814 02785 02757 02724 02702 02676 02676 02676
03000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02857 02796 02770 02743 02710 02678 02649 02624 02624 02624
03500 02869 02869 02869 02816 02754 02705 02681 02658 02618 02581 02549 02495 02495 02495
04000 02795 02795 02795 02732 02667 02615 02595 02574 02530 02497 02389 02378 02378 02378
04250 02753 02753 02753 02693 02629 02573 02552 02531 02488 02455 02325 02325 02325 02325
05000 02636 02636 02636 02572 02505 02450 02427 02403 02359 02315 02228 02228 02228 02228
SOI 0 PD 150
00000 00500 01000 01500 02000 02500 02750 03000 03500 04000 04500 05000 05500 06000
00100 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02987 02987 02987 02987 02987 02987
00400 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
00800 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01250 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688 02688
01500 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02855 02855 02855 02848 02837 02837 02837
01750 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02893 02870 02848 02837 02837 02837
02000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02881 02848 02826 02806 02806 02806
02250 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02890 02868 02849 02816 02795 02773 02773 02773
02500 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02881 02854 02826 02806 02773 02751 02730 02730 02730
02750 02901 02901 02901 02901 02901 02843 02814 02785 02757 02724 02702 02676 02676 02676
03000 02901 02901 02901 02901 02857 02796 02770 02743 02710 02678 02649 02624 02624 02624
03500 02869 02869 02869 02816 02754 02705 02681 02658 02618 02581 02549 02495 02495 02495
04000 02795 02795 02795 02732 02667 02615 02595 02574 02530 02497 02389 02378 02378 02378
04250 02753 02753 02753 02693 02629 02573 02552 02531 02488 02455 02325 02325 02325 02325
05000 02636 02636 02636 02572 02505 02450 02427 02403 02359 02315 02228 02228 02228 02228
% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PD 130 AND PD 150
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The timing of injection is advanced slightly by moving the columns one place to the left. So
more fuel can be injected by starting injection slightly earlier.
This brings two benifits.
More power from more fuel and more power due to advance in timing of start of injection.
At this point, the fuelling is sorted and as you can see, it has not been altered by much.
The next area for improvement is the air supply. (Turbocharger)
The Turbocharger consists of three maps.
A desired turbocharger pressure map
A turbocharger control valve map.
A turbocharger pressure limiting map
A turbocharger Single Value Pressure Limiter.
TURBOCHARGER BOOST PRESSURE MAP.
First row (X) is Injection Quantity (I.Q) (0 - 5000). Multiply by 0.01 to see it as mg/stroke.
(5000 x 0.01 = 50 mg/stroke)
First column (Y) is engine RPM. (0 - 4746)
Chart data (Z) is required boost pressure. (0 - 2350 mbars)
BOOST MAP PD 130
00000 00500 01000 01500 02000 02500 03000 03500 04500 05000
00000 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198 00198
00021 01002 01052 01102 01158 01195 01265 01350 01350 01350 01350
01008 01002 01058 01106 01153 01199 01265 01350 01350 01350 01350
01260 01002 01060 01119 01171 01225 01281 01373 01500 01750 01750
01500 01002 01090 01155 01225 01305 01380 01495 01650 01900 02000
01750 01002 01115 01195 01280 01365 01475 01610 01800 02050 02250
01900 01002 01130 01210 01310 01395 01515 01660 01860 02115 02300
02000 01002 01140 01220 01320 01415 01535 01685 01880 02155 02325
02247 01012 01160 01240 01340 01440 01565 01705 01915 02205 02350
02499 01021 01180 01260 01360 01460 01585 01725 01925 02210 02350
03500 01060 01225 01320 01425 01525 01645 01775 01965 02235 02350
03750 01080 01225 01330 01435 01530 01645 01780 01970 02235 02350
03990 01100 01225 01330 01445 01540 01650 01780 01970 02215 02320
04250 01120 01225 01330 01445 01540 01650 01780 01980 02170 02260
04494 01149 01225 01328 01445 01540 01645 01780 01965 02070 02140
04746 01200 01225 01325 01429 01530 01655 01775 01900 01950 01950
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The % difference chart shows that the I.Q axis has been changed for the 150 to allow I.Q to
reach 55 mg/stroke instead of 50 mg/stroke of the 130.
The chart data is a little different at middle RPM & I.Q. The main difference is the last column
where boost is allowed to rise.
Maximum boost of 2350 mbar for the 130 is raised to a maximum of 2500 mbar in the 150.
Most of the boost changes occur above 1500 rpm as this is when the turbocharger starts to spool
up.
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The % difference chart shows the axes are unchanged between the pd 130 and pd 150.
There is little difference below 1500 RPM as the turbocharger is not working even though it is
set for maximum boost (80%)
At roughly 1500 rpm, exhaust pressure spools the turbocharger up to speed and boost increases.
For the 130 boost will head towards it's limit of 2350 mbars and on the 150 it will head towards
it's limit of 2500 mbars.
The trubocharger is already set for maximum boost so the job of the N75 Duty cycle is to
change the vane angle in the turbocharger, to reduce boost.
The % difference chart shows that the 150 reduces boost LESS tan the 130 and so the boost
pressure is kept higher in the 150.
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The % difference chart shows that the 150 allows slightly higher (up to 6%) boost at middle to
high rpm, so the 150 is slightly less turbo limiting.
So the 20 BHP increase from 130 to 150 bhp is mainly achieved by increasing the Injected
Quantity slightly and increasing the turbocharger boost slightly.
Obviously the designers feel that this extra 20 bhp is not too much strain for the engine.
It is possible to increase bhp beyond 150 bhp. Many engine tuners claim to remap 1.9 pd
tdi diesels from 130 to almost 180 bhp.
The more power you try to extract, the more fuel you will use and the more strain you will
put on the engine, clutch and gearbox