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14CV0835
EDWARD SNOOK,
Plaintiff,
Case: 14CV0835
vs.
DEBORAH SWAN,
Defendant.
OFFER OF PROOF
INCONSISTENT PRIOR STATEMENTS OF WITNESS ED SNOOK
The attached transcription is the first conversation in the video titled, "The US Observer Hired to
Expose Corruption in the Case of Charles Dyer is Compromised".
EXHIBIT
DEFENDANT
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CERTIFY AUTHENTIC
The attached evidence is a typed version of the full recorded conversation, a transcribed version
of the Youtube Video. This transcription was performed by the Defendant Deborah Swan.
The audio conversation was recorded using a cell phone recording software that is provided to
Cricket Wireless customers. This audio of this evidence has been entered into this case by the
Plaintiff in his Plaintiff's first cause of action. This is the certification that this evidence is the
authentic version of the audio recording. This evidence is being entered into this case as evidence
for the Defendant.
/s/ Deborah Kay Swan
JUNE 26, 2012
[Phone ringing]
Ed: US Observer.
Ed: Yeah.
Ed: Yeah.
Ed: Yeah, yesterday and I'd already told him where we were at, no
one's been directly paying and we concluded that, proved that
Charles is [mumbling]a non- hands investigation. We've- we've got
the people we need to talk to. And so the next step is to go
there and I think Lorne is at, about 50 hours in it.
Deborah: Okay.
Ed: And he has done a very in depth, excellent job. I- I was very
uh- impressed with his- what he's done.
Ed: He's uhm- he's got it down to uh- we need to go to and the
game plan is, him and I will put that together, I don't tell
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anyone that. It's- and that is the thing that we will get next
the people we need to get next to and- and that's where we are at
right now. We need to go do that.
Ed: No, Lorne is. And that's- he needs to know all that what your
ideas are on talking to those people, that's not where were going
to get the new evidence. We- you know when we reopen Charles'
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case, we have to have new evidence or you simply, you know, most
people depend on what's already been hashed why- that's why they
stay in prison.
Deborah: Right, well this has- this is never been hashed, this is
never been brought to them directly, this is like the Federal
involvement type of, side of it, you know this would be like- and
there is someone that's comes forward and- and maybe he'll talk
to you ah- if you want me to, if I am allowed to give the number
to you. He claims that he has proof of, now this is pretty
serious, he's got proof of- of one of the main supporters that's
been the closest to the Dyer family, his name is Rick Light.
He's- he works directly with, he's been working with Charles'
situation through Janet and the FBI agent Ken Western.
Ant then
there is this person, his name's Paul. He has proof of uhm- ahRick Light receiving three different payments from the FBI,
during this whole time frame. One for 15,000 and then two for
$8,000. So he's got like-
Ed: Yes.
Deborah: He's got the proof of it, now can I connect with him you
to talk to him possibly?
Deborah: Okay.
Ed: If the FBI paid him off it depends what they paid him for but
if there's- you know, illegal to Charles, then I will destroy him
with it.
Deborah: Alright. what- what it would that they have done,
they've hijacked the support. I mean they're the ones that have
steered the support on what's been, you know, uhm- basically what
I believe that- that's just speculating but that makes sense and
Nancy Genovese is another lady, she has been very close to the
Dyers, she's been- they're the ones that found the attorney, the
second attorney for Charles, is the same group. And the
undercover agent, Darren Wilburn is the one who found the
attorney Albert Hawk, and so when you- when you put all the- the,
you know connections together, you see the set-up, you see that
you know the attorney- the attorney didn't do anything for
Charles in the courtroom. So, did not present any of the
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Ed:
Deborah: Alright.
Ed:
understand that.
ED
he's done a very in depth excellent job I was very impressed with
his what he's done. We've got it down to witnesses we need to go
to,
and the game plan is, and I will put that together, we don't
tell anyone that, and that is a plan and how we will get to
investigate people we need get next too. And that's where we are
right now. We need to go do that.
Deborah
I think
ED You know Lorne needs you need tell him all of that. He
absolutely needs to know all that! Tell him what all your ideas
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where we're going to get the new evidence. In order to reopen the
case for Charles we have to have new evidence. Most people depend
on what is already been rehashed and that's why they stay in
prison.
Deborah well this has never been hashed out. The Federal
involvement has not been discussed yet. That side of it , and
there was someone that has come forward and maybe
he will talk to you guys.
now
the main supporters that's the closest to the Dyer's family whose
name is Rick Light. He's been working with Charles situation with
Janet, and the FBI agent Ken Western. And he claims he knows
Charles from when they were in the military together, his name is
Paul, He told me he has proof of Rick Light receiving three
different payments from the FBI. One for 15,000, two for $8000
each.
Ed
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Ed: If the FBI paid him off, well it depends what they paid him
for...
Dyer, and she is who helped find the Attorney for Charles. The
same group. And the undercover agent Darren Wilburn, is the one
who found a Albert Hoch.
together, this you see the setup. You see the Attorney didnt do
anything for Charles, and the
no evidence presented.
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exonerated him like the DNA and the forensic investigation of the
computer, all this stuff should've been given to the jury. None
of this has ever brought up during the trial.
Ed
state
my conversation
that they all know that Charles did not know the grenade launcher
was stolen. The prosecutor, Sheriff and the Feds, all three know
that Charles did not know that anything was stolen. That might
help them out.
Ed
obviously we're
going after new evidence as well, but that evidence on its own
could get him out of prison.
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like we're going to have good results? What can I tell them
without breaching any security? Um you know.
Ed
presented.
Loren
you've sent to him. We've talked extensively with the mother and
the sister and everyone we can talk too without giving away what
we're doing.
Deborah
the rape
along
the actual state violations and the FBI involvement, and all
that. But have they gone into depth with you
Federal involvement?
stuff?
Ed
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Deborah
to this family and that's why we wanted to get you guys involved.
We all already know he's innocent! We already know
this to the little girl!.... Here's an example,
the FBI
came and
contacted her
he didn't do
Amy's daughter
daughter to come
in and speak to the Feds about Charles . The FBI interrogated her
and tried to force her to say or believe that Charles molested
her when she was little, and that she just doesn't remember.
Trying to get her to admit something that wasn't true. Things
like this are concerning. This shows that it looks like a setup.
There are lots of situations like that and I was wanting you guys
to look into this has anyone told you about that?
Ed
a conspiracy, but still at the end of the day we need to know the
facts. But at the end of the day, we're going to go to the heart
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Ed
Deborah
you are aware of the way the judicial misconduct and there are
certain things that the government will reverse cases like when
his right has been violated Like when you find out the
prosecutor lied to the, and the judge does not hold him
accountable, and all these things could actually of exonerated
Charles, and get a
if you can know how to go in and push this through that's why
someone like you can do that kind of standing up for Charles
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right's, like his habeas corpus has been violated, he never get a
fair trial, there's so
much..
Ed
prosecutor,
exculpatory
or lied
But if you give all this to Lorne, and he can say "OK and we've
got this, and
Deborah
Ed
: Absolutely
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Ed: I've- I have never told anybody 5,000 and and both the
contracts we had signed-
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Deborah: Yeah we'll get- we'll get it paid don't worry. I justI'm just- I thought that there was 5,000 for Charles and anything
extra the 5,000 was going to be, but then uh- like I said, that
that's not part of my, I wish I could pay it myself but, yeah
they're going to- it's going to be taken care of. Uhm- cuz Amy
Dyer needed to go to her sister coz she was wondering, she was
told by Lorne, the investigator, that- possibly that he might
want her to be there? Is that part of your plan or would you
rather just go on your own ... to Oklahoma?
Ed : Uhh- I'm gonna- as long as it's not- do you have some reason
why we shouldn't have Amy there?
Ed : Then you should- you should be there and run this by Lorne
because he's doing it...
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Deborah: Alright, I'll do that- then I'm gonna start planning for
it. I really want to see what y'all do. I've been trying to get
you guys involved for a long time, so I would love to be there
and if y'all need me to do anything I mean, it's completely justtell me and I'll- I'll be more than willing to do whatever plans
you come up with. I'll be more than willing to talk to whoever or
whatever you need me to do I'll do- more than willing to help.
Deborah: Okay.
Deborah : I'm excited! We'd kick this Fed's ass is what I want to
do! Okay, totally. So, very cool. I'm ready to schedule a trip
too, so let me get- let me- Chris will be calling me back her in
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about probably about half an hour, and I'll tell him that I'm
[inaudible-[00:15:56]] about all this and we'll I guess, as soon
as the money is paid we can start planning for the dates, is that
correct?
Deborah: I'm going to call him right now, yeah I'll do that,
right now.
Ed: Good.
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
On June 17, 2015, a true copy of this document has been efiled and served to
James LEuenberger at jIm@fights4rights.com.
/s/ Deborah Kay Swan
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