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05-18-2013, 06:52 PM

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Mystery Method Updated to Year 2013 - [All-in-One] Attraction
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Announcement: This is long. Read the first paragraphs and


then pick the headline you want to read something about.
Read what you need to improve on. Re-Read it after you have
tried it. Ask questions. Become a better man. Or at least look at
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Mystery Method Updated to Year


2013
Attraction - Comfort - Sex
Disclaimer (Autumn 2012): I wanted to write this for over a year now!

The original Mystery Method (MM) got criticized a lot (both on old
mASF and here on fasterseduction). While some call it way too slow or
too theoretical the biggest argument has always been that it turnes
people into social robots.
I will address all those points in my post and want to show you, that
the idea and the system are still up to date and that by understanding it
lots of people could get laid much faster and (most important)
smoother.
In the german pickup community the Mystery Method is still pretty big
and popular, and Ive seen many guys getting huge success with it. Im
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talking about fast lays, daygame, nightgame, etc. I myself get laid very
consistently since I learned this, so I want to share it with you guys who
helped me so much since three years ago when I entered your
community.

The idea behind the Mystery Method


First off all: In my eyes the name Mystery Method is not a good term.
It should much rather be called the Mystery Theory, since the origin
of the Mystery Method is not to give people a guideline as what they
have to do (aka no walkthrough of seduction). Its much more a
theory of how seduction happens in the real world and how naturals (=
people who never learned to pick up girls but are still successful at
doing so) are seducing women.
In other words the idea is to look at what successful people are doing,
understanding the system (that often the naturals themselves have not
understood) and apply it to achieve the same (or more).

On social Robots and Routines


The original write up of the MM is full with so called Routines. A
Routine (often also called canned material) is something specific that
you do or say in a certain situation.
Examples:
Have you ever
- said Hi, Im xxx to a hot girl (Opening Routine)
- told someone about something funny that happened that day in your
life (Story-Routine)
- gave a girl a spin (Kino-/Compliance-Routine)
Now in the old book most people misunderstood the idea of routines.
They thought they just had to say the things that were outlined in the
book (= using the right routines) and they would get girls into bed!
The result were lots of people running around and asking girls Who lies
more, men or women? (An Opinion opener that was recommend in the
original book not very useful for most people, see below) . Doesnt
sound very smart, right? Well people believed in that shit back in the
old days! It went even worse: After not getting laid from saying Who
lies more? they thought they had to follow up with some other things
to say and used another routine. Some people tried to memorize
routines for every situation possible in a dialog (e.g. What to say when
she says yes or no gives answer A or answer B,C,D, etc.).
The ideas behind routines is a pretty different one. The goal is not to
use the words that Mystery used or the words that any other famous
player XYZ uses. Depending on your character and the person you are
YOU NEED TO FIND YOUR OWN (!) ROUTINES! I get laid saying shit
that wont work for most people, and many of my buddies do or say
some stuff that just woudnt work for me people wouldnt believe me!
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And neither of us thinks about the shit we say, but we trap ourselves
saying stuff again and again that we have used successfully in the past.
Attention: Im not saying its wrong to use other peoples routines in
general, but you always have to ask yourself if this routine would fit
your personality (= are you congruent with what you say?). Many
beginners have not thought about that they were just unhappy with
their life in general and tried to copy someone more successful. What
they didnt understand was that it would have been much smarter to
COPY THE SYSTEM BEHID THE WORDS INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL
WORDS BEING SAID!

The Phases of a successful sedution


In his original theory Mystery said that a successful seduction can be
broken down into smaller parts (=phases). In his eyes there were three
attraction-phaeses (A1, A2, A3), three comfort phases (C1, C2, C3) and
three sexual phases (S1, S2, S3).
While for Mystery the phases were separated pretty strictly, we believe
nowadays that the line between those phases is fluent. Often it is better
to move forward or backwards in phases or keep element of earlier
phases active during the whole seduction! I will give concrete examples
below, as Im going to describe the different phases.

Opening (A1)
The main assumption behind opening is that in the beginning you are
(in her eyes) having less value than she has. She is hot and good
looking, gets approached by a bunch of guys and has guys texting her
all the time, guys are nothing special, so why should you be special?
That is your starting point!
Now you know the saying there is only one chance to make a good
first impression thats just what we want to do: Make a good first
impression. But thats all. Many guys think they have to win the set over
with the opener! HELL NO!! We know that she thinks your value is
lower than hers and therefore we are prepared for that. You see, all the
opener is really for is giving us the (best possible) chance to move to
the next step (raising our value).
General guidelines:
- 3 second rule
- Tilt head to the side
- Speak loud and clear, suiting the situation
- Good posture (like a man!)
- If in doubt: Indirect opener
- Some guys recommend opening with your body not facing the target
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Example:
Aima walking from one dancefloor to another, 2 girls are coming from
the opposite dancefloor.
Aima: Hell noooooooo, you guys dont want to go there!!!!
(Situational Opener)
HBs: wtf??? Smiling
Aima: They play the good music right over there (pointing to the
dancefloor they are coming from) Here they only play Backstreet Boys
all the time, and I know you guys HATE the Backstreet Boys (False cold
read)
HBs: Noooo, we looooooove the Backstreetboys (reacting on false
cold read)
How do I open which sets?
- Only females -> open ugly girl first
- Male in the set -> open male first
- big group -> big groups normally device into small sub-groups (aka
not every is talking with everyone)! Pick a subgroup and treat it like a
normal set.

A2 (Female to male attraction)


Now I told you that when you are opening the girl thinks her value is
higher than yours. If you have done the opening good you may already
have build some attraction (mostly with your body language), but
hopefully you have (at least) bought yourself some time. In the next
phase (A2) you want to concentrate on raising your value (in her eyes).
To be more concrete, you want to raise your relevant value towards
her, meaning you either have to raise your value (DHV = Display of
higher value) or you have to lower her value (DLV = Display of lower
value in the meaning of recognizing something about her that lowers
her value (be careful with these!)). By raising your value she will become
attracted to you! This is because people in general (males and females)
like to find a sexual partner that has higher value. (Value does not mean
a higher position in society or more money value means much more!)
In other words you can say that attraction is nothing else but having
high (higher) value (from her point of view).
While the original MM mostly concentrated on creating attraction with
words, todays methods offer a much wider spectrum of things you can
do! Think of anything you can create attraction with this is the point
to use it!
Some tools are
- DHV-stories (included because its the biggest part of the old MM)
- Delivery / Congruence (same)
- Kino escalation (very big today)
- Passing shit-tests (see below)

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DHV-stories
To understand the idea of displaying higher value you first want to
understand what kind of things are of value (=attractive) in her eyes.
While this is obviously something that is different from women to
women, here are some things that many women are attracted to
- Preselection (= There are other women in your life, you treat them
good, you are showing unneedyness and eventually make her a little
jealous)
- Social Proof (= You have many friends, many people love you and
therefore you cant be that bad of a guy, but must be a pretty cool guy
on the other hand)
- Leader of man (= Being the so called alpha other men look up to
you and would like to experience/ live your life, like to hear your stories,
etc.)
- Protector of loved ones (= You protect the people you care about and
you show the girl that she can trust you, she can feel save and secure
around you)
- Stability (=You have a life and goals , you have either motivation,
ambition or a job/financial security)
- Confidence (= being yourself and standing your man, but in the most
positive way, you do what you want but you are reasonable (see
below))
- Being reasonable (= Having reasons for the things you are doing in
your life, not doing anything bad without having a reason, etc.)
Now the first five of those above are the so called Attraction Switches.
Imagine them like a light switch they can either be turned on or
turned off. What you want to do is turn on as many of those switches
as possible, but once a switch is turned on, you dont need to focus on
this switch anymore.
That is a common mistake that many beginners do, they are for
example already preselected in her eyes but keep going and going
about how many women will want to fuck them. No matter how subtle
he does it, she will not understand why he displays that again and again
and may eventually start thinking of it as bragging! Bragging is
something lower value people do therefore your value will sink even
though you tried to do the right thing! So turn on a switch and move
to the next!
So how do you implement those DHVs in your game? Certainly not by
bragging!

Preselection
Bad example: Im having a lot of sex!
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Good example: HB talking about whatever Aima: Haha, I know what


youre talking about! Lately my bed is squeaking, I should really repair
that! When shes asking how you know that, just use a false
disqualifier (= what? Noooo, Im still a virgin, what do you think of
me?).
Social Proof
Bad example: I know a lot of people
Good example: Use peoples names in your story and wave your friends,
have them come over to say hi, etc.)
Leader of man
Bad: Everyone wants to hear my opinion
Good: On Thursday I have another presentation for my guys I had
to promise them!

Delivery / Congruence
Mystery talked a lot about delivery and congruence. What he meant
was that the stuff that you do and say must fit your character
(congruence) or at least must seem like its fitting your character
(because you delivered the routine like someone with a fitting character
would).
Many people look at the routines that Mystery used and ask themselves
How the fuck could that work? If I would say stuff like that, people
would laugh at me and give me weird looks!

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Now what you have to understand is the following: When Mystery


entered a room, most people were looking at him, because he was 1.
very tall and 2. was wearing crazy shit to draw attention to himself
(peacocking). People would open him all the time just because he
looked like some guy from another world. If you have that in mind, you
can understand how saying the stuff he said could actually attract
women!
Now Im pretty sure you are not like Mystery, you are more normal I
guess (at least I am). So now you have to think on what YOU can say or
do that works for YOU in YOUR SITUATION to create attraction.
Mystery found his routines, you have to find your routines! You will
recognize that some stuff fits your character (= congruence) and you
will also recognize that you get better the more you use your routines
(= your delivery gets better and you will seem even more congruent).
A few hints to help you improve the delivery:
- Dont move too frantically
- Point out the hook line of your story THAT was BY FAR the SICKEST
THING that EVER happened to me in the subway!
- Use breaks
- Use your hands to underline what you say
- Imitate peoples voice when talking about them
- Try to make the story as lively as possible
Why do I give hints on your delivery? Because even if you talk about
something that happened to you (= a story you are very congruent
with, because it happened to you) you do still want to deliver the story
in a way that people have fun listening! (= good delivery).
Bad: I once worked at the set of CSI Miami, it was fun.
Good: You know CSI Miami? You will NEVER BELIEVE how they
actually shoot those scenes!! (and then you go on!)

Escalation:
See this great post of Warped Mindless (http://www.puazone.com/showthread.p...calation-Guide) in the Hall of Fame.
Dont think escalation is as unimportant, it is most important! But
escalation by itself is such a big topic and some much smarter people
have written up their stuff already, no need for me to do that! Take any
good post about escalation (not only physical escalation but also
escalation of the vibe) and apply the stuff!

Passing shit-tests
A shit-test is a thing the girl says or does to test the males willpower.
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tries to press the male into a lower value position (therefore raising her
own relative value).
Basic examples:
Do you do that often? I mean pick up girls (Trying to lower your
value)
You just want to have sex, I can see that! (Also trying to lower your
value)
Would you buy me a drink? (Would he do that for me? Does he
like me that much already? Have I done enough to own that drink, or
is he just trying to buy himself into my pants?)
Now shit-tests are very special when it comes to creating attraction, and
thats why I (and many other experienced players) love them so much:
A shit-test is like a fork in a road! After a shit-test you will either have
more attraction (if you pass the shit-test) or you will have less attraction
(if you fail to pass).
For me girls that do shit-test a lot are by far the easiest targets, because
they will shoot one shit-test after another at you and by passing each
and every one of them your attraction will skyrocket in no time! (If you
really want to deal with a girl like that is another question, think about
the hot-crazy-scale of Barney Stinson from How I Met Your Mother). For
this you obviously need to practice how to pass those tests! I will give a
few examples, but you will have to find solutions that work for you! This
is where experience plays a big role!
Example 1:
HB: I dont just have sex with everyone!
Aima: Well I really dont understand all that hype about sex, I mean
without sex none of us would be here right? Sex is just a natural thing
to do when two people are attracted, damn people even had sex long
before they could talk! (cred: Teevster, check out his sextalk guides for
more refraiming advice)
Example 2:

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Player 60yearsofchallenge walking up to two strippers


60: Hi, Im 60
HBs (pissed): Go away!
60 (genuine and humble): I just wanted to introduce myself since you
guys look like fun
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HBs (cheering up): Wow, you got balls! We like you! Sit down!
Generally if you feel like you get shit-tested, just look her straight in the
eyes and then after a short pause slowly turn your head away, not
saying anything!

Attention! Important news regarding A2


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Creating attraction and raising your value is the hardest part (!!!) of the
whole seduction process! You can spend your whole life trying to
become better at creating attraction (= raising your value). No matter
what some gurus tell you, you will never be able to attract any girl. But
using what we use can help you get the best out of yourself right now.
Dont worry if you have problems raising your value in an interaction
its normal! And think about it that way: After you have raised your
value, the rest of the game is not nearly as hard (not saying it is less
important quite the opposite, as you will see).

A3 (male to female attraction)


During A2 you have raised your value higher than her value (in her
eyes). Now the girls wants you (= you are the prize) and you give her
the chance to win you over! And we do it step by step (very
important!!).
Why do we do it step by step if the girl wants us already? Because the
more you make her invest into you, the stronger her connection to you
will be. Also we are making use of the human psychology: By giving her
a chance to improve her own value (= qualifying to us) we make her
work and therefore invest into us.
Old example from the german community: Imagine you have saved
money for five years and worked hard to buy yourself the car of your
dreams, a red Ferrari Smooth Edition! And imagine further that on
the day you buy the car, you win the lottery and you win the exact
same car, so now you have two identical red Ferrari Smooth Edition in
your garage. You dont need the same car twice, so you will sell one of
the two. They are the same, same color, same engine, both brand new.
Which one will you sell? The red Ferrari you worked five years for? Or
the one that just landed in your hands?
Most people (and I agree) would sell the car from the lottery, because
they would feel some kind of connection to the car they worked for (not
to mention the fact that you can tell everyone this is my dream car
that I worked hard for and earned myself!).
Its the same with women and their men they will stick to the one
they worked for! So lets make her work a bit!

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So once again: We give her a chance to impress us (= improve her


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her invest. In other words we make
her (!) give us reasons (!) to like her (!).
Read that last sentence once again, its the base concept of A3.
So how do we do that?
- Compliance
- Bait Hook Reel Release
- Screening (male to female), Qualification (female to male)
There is no straight line between those three things, since they all work
for the same goal.

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Compliance
A Compliance test (often also called hoop) is like a verbal or nonverbal
hoop you hold for the women to jump through. Verbal compliance tests
are often questions, but they can also be simple statements!
Examples:
Verbal:
Can you cook?
Do you do sports?

Non-Verbal:
Can you hold my glass?
Give me your hand?

Most interactions are compliance tests. Asking for her name is a small
compliance test, having sex with her is a big compliance test. Same
thing is she is borrowing you money or you ask her to buy you a drink/
pay the bill.

If she takes the test (= jumps through your hoop) she gets a rewards
(= Indicator of Interest from you to her), if she is not compliant (= not
jumping through the hoop) you give her an IoD (=Indicator or
Disinterest). The idea is make her feel good when she is compliant (=
jumping through the hoop) and withhold good feelings when she is not
compliant. Important: The IoD is no punishment, you dont want to
make her feel bad! You just dont want to make her feel good either!
Soon she will connect being compliant with having a good feeling and
will therefore be even more compliant. Eventually this will lead to her
being compliant to the idea of sex (this can happen very fast).
Most good players in Germany like to combine Compliance with Bait
Hook Reel Release (BHRR), see below.
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First: Be aware that compliance is super important! During the whole
interaction up till the sex happens, you want to increase the compliance
just like you increase the kino escalation! Because she has been more
and more compliant all the time before, chances that she will have LMR
are much lower, since she will have good feelings connected with
following your lead.
Second: Be aware not to install negative compliance!
Example:

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PUA takes her hand, gives her a spin.


PUA (making fun of her): Haha, what was that?
This will build negative compliance, she will connect following your lead
with a bad feeling (= you making fun of her). Therefore chances are
lower that she will follow your lead later on!
Instead use a push/pull (Reel/Release, see BHRR below):
Reel: Uhhh, very sexy ! (IoI = Indicator of Interest)
Release: I give you a B+ (IoD = Indicator of Disinterest + DHV
(Humor), Roleplay)

Bait Hook Reel Release (BHRR)


BHRL is also part of the original Mystery Method and probably the thing
I have least experience with! Its quite complicated to do during normal
talking, but you can throw it in from time to time! Some people in
Germany really dig it and have good success, some really good guys
even claim it to be the most important technique in A3. That is the
reason why I will explain the system in a few words.
As explained above the idea is to make the women work for you, and
exactly that is what we are doing here. Imagine a fish that you want to
catch during fishing! You use your bait in the hope that the fish will
hook, you reel it in, but then instead of eating it you release it into the
water, therefore starting the whole process again! Thats what we do
with the women: We give them a chance to qualify (bait), when she
qualifies (hook) we set some positive compliance (reel /pull) and then
give her a slightly push, showing her that she has still not won us
completely (release / light push).
Examples:

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Bait: Give me your hand (= Compliance Test), trying to spin her


Hook: Gives her hand and does the spin
Reel: Uhhh, very sexy
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(IoI = Indicator
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Release: I give you a B+ (IoD = Indicator of Disinterest + DHV
(Humor), Roleplay)
Bait: Do you do sports?
Hook: Yeah just today I was jogging for one and a half hour
Reel: Thats cool, I like people who stay fit (IoI)
Release: but I dont like jogging myself, its just too boring! I prefer
(IoD, said friendly and smiling, not insulting! Remember we only
want a slight push to set some positive compliance! If you ruin the Reel
with your Release she will have a bad feeling and she will probably not
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negative feeling)).

Dont think of the BHRR as something that you have to do


conversation will become like an interview and predictable if you use this
all the time! Instead think about it in a bigger picture you want to
give her a chance to qualify, she may even hook and talk for a bit,
talking back and forth (her qualifying to you) and then you can set a
good Reel (pull) and add a Release (little push).
Bait: How was your weekend? Any big adventures or traveling?
(Compliance test)
Hook: bla bla story of her weekend in Miami, both of you talk back and
forth
Reel: Wow you are really cool! (IoI)
Release: (laughing, kidding) I mean as far as I can tell, after all we
just met here in the club and you know what kind of strange people run
around when its dark (IoD + DHV (Humor)).
You can also give her Hoops when she asks you something.
Example:
HB: How old are you?
Aima: Have a guess
You make her work and invest for information about you.

What do you do when the girl is not compliant (= not jumping through
your hoop/ not taking your compliance test)? You react with an IoD
and an additional DHV. Its actually quite easy:
Aima: What do you like to do in your spare time?
HB: I dont know meet some friends and stuff (= lame boring
answer / being to cool to give a real answer, etc.)
Aima: (ironically, raising eyebrow, deadpan voice): Wow, Ive never
heard anyone ever say that! Tell me more (= IOD + Humor this
works because she is already attraced after A2).
(Do this without having build attraction in A2 and you will kick yourself
out of the set! Just saying there is a time to use ironic comments and
there is a time not to use them).
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in her eyes,
saying
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turning head away and looking away, silence.
In addition you can basically apply everything on this board about
push/pull, just make sure you set the right compliance!

Screening (male to female), Qualification (female to


male)
This is pretty much common sense, but I still want to lose a few words!
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Of course you could use basically ANYTHING as a compliance test. But


instead you should use the time effectively and use compliance tests
that screen if the lady is the kind of girl that you are looking for.
Bad Example:
What do you think about horses? is a compliance test. But I dont
give a fuck weather she cares about horses or not! So I should rather
use a compliance test that at the same time tells me something about
her that I would like to know!
Better:
Are you adventurous? (And if she says yes): Interesting! When was
your last adventure?
I like high heels a lot, so I often talk with girls about their shoes!
You are wearing no heels tonight? Why is that?
Nice shoes how high are they?
When asked weather I like shoes I love high heels, they emphasize
every womens legs tits and ass, simply delicious!
With the statements above I show the girls what I like (high heels) and
therefore give them a chance to say what I want to hear, they qualify
themselves (=trying to make me like them).
Often girls tell me how they are not into one night stands, simply
because they think that would make them seem slutty and of low value.
But by refraiming sex as something normal, they often open up and tell
me how much they love sex and tell me their favorite positions or tell
me kinky sex stories!
Now probably everyone prefers those stories compared to some talking
about horses. When talking about topics you like you dont need to
fake being interested, but are actually interested! The things you say
will become more congruent (remember we dont want to become
incongruent just because we are in A3 now).
In other words you want
- talk about things you are interested in
- give them chances to say the right things!

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You can also use this to shape the girl in a way you want. If I screen for
a LTR I will qualify her
differently
than
when Im looking for a ONS. As I
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said, its common sense, I dont screen her for being faithful when I
want her to cheat on her boyfriend with me. And I dont screen her for
being slutty when I want her to fall in love with me (but I will still screen
her for being sexual of course).
Once again attention: Sometimes the girl just has nothing interesting to
say to your question! Accept it and laugh it off! Please dont just give
her an IoD for being honest with you, okay?

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How do I recognize if I have enough Attraction (A2


A3 Transitioning?)
The line is not clear, most people I know try to transition after they
have gotten their first IoI from the girl (this can happen extremely fast
(seconds) or take a lot time (several minutes). The idea is to assume
attraction and just throw out one or two compliance tests. If the jumps
through the hoop, you move on, if she does not jump/not qualify
herself, you go back to A2. Switching back and forth is no problem, as
long as she qualifies herself in the end.
YES! Sometimes women can be very attracted and are still not
qualifying. An experienced player will recognize that and simply move
on to the next phase (some advanced players even skip A3 completely
to be faster in bed with the hottie), but I recommend all
beginners/intermediates to do normal A3 to play it save.
Rule of thumb: Learn and apply the system before you modify its basic
concepts!

Comfort (C1, C2, C3)


First the most important thing: The game is played in comfort! In other
words: Comfort is the most important part of the game! This is the part
where you have gathered enough resources (attraction) to build
something long lasting (= a true connection).
Now some of you may just be out for the quick ONS, and its 100%
true that you can lay girls without doing comfort (what I mean is doing
only very little comfort, just enough to make her feel secure) I will
address ONS again later. But talking about comfort now: if you want to
see the girl again or (god forbid) you want to have more than just
meaningless sex with her, this is the thing you want to concentrate on!
Also in my experience comfort is extremely important with girls that are
not into ONS (yes, those are out there!). Additionally, comfort will make
your numbers solid (my numbers are more than 95% solid), which is
extremely helpful when you cant lay her that very night (due to
logistics or her period or whatever). Even more important: the more
she thinks of you as her soul-mate, the more effort she is willing to put
into the whole interaction (and the more effort she will put into the
sex)!
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What Im talking about is girls bringing you presents, girls wanting to


do anything to please you (in bed and elsewhere), girls canceling other
things just to see you, girls texting you good night before they go to
bed and girls being there for you in case you ever need someone. Ever
wanted to get treated better than her ex boyfriends without even being
her boyfriend? Ever wanted to have a girl become your solid girlfriend?
All this and much more is comfort! Let me repeat again: The game is
played in comfort.
I have two charts that will show you the difference between attraction
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emotional (!) and comfort is logical (!). Attraction will make her feel
like she wants you, comfort will make her understand why she wants
you (= give her reason).

Look at the chart below you need all three (attraction, comfort and
closing) for a successful and strong seduction.

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Without attraction first, you will fall into the friend zone, and we know
its hard to ever get out again.
Without comfort she will not feel a connection with you! But why is
that? Look at the second chart I brought you guys:

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As I said attraction is emotional and comfort is logical! Now the problem
with an emotional connection (= only based on attraction) is that its
fading away pretty fast. Think of it as Out of sight, Out of mind! Its
part of how our brain works! And this is also the reason why she is not
picking up her phone when you call her! The good feeling is just not
there anymore, instead (her logical side) has probably even build up
bad feelings regarding your interaction (= we call this buyers
remorse). Without having addressed the logical side (= comfort)
during the seduction, there will be nothing in her brain left that wants
her to meet you again. Still, this is how many short term seducers
work. Starting today, you know better!

Talking about comfort


Now in the old MM Mystery was separating comfort into three different
phases, C1, C2 and C3. The difference between those phases was the
place where you interact with the girl (C1 = Isolation, C2 = different
location, C3 = your apartment / different sex location).
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Nowadays we dont feel the need to separate between those three


phases anymore, so we are simply talking about Comfort as one
whole thing. Thats nothing special, because in all three phases we are
planning the same thing: We are trying to build a deep emotional
(=logical) Connection while building trust, ease and coziness.
The first step for comfort is what we call Isolation. The goal is to
create a situation where you can talk alone with the girl (and therefore
work on your connection without being interrupted).
Examples:

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- In a club, take her to a quite table close to her friends.


- In a club again, talk alone with her, standing a few feet away from
here friends
- In a social situation go to the kitchen with her or talk on the balcony
Experienced players know how to create isolation basically anywhere! I
will never forget one of the best naturals I ever met, sitting at a big
table with me and my friends and some girls, and he just moved his
chair a bit closer to the girl sitting next to him and started a low volume
conversation with her, they were whispering at each other and we
others just kept talking normally, while those two just created their own
little space right there! Great isolation from that natural friend of mine
and a move I have myself successfully copied several times!
Now why is isolation that important? Because it will help you to make
her focus on one thing: on you! She will not be distracted by her
friends! At the same time a more private frame is set, now you are
exchanging information that are not for anybody, only for you two (=
special connection). Additionally you can drive more kino (= ideally no
watching friends -> she wont feel looked at) and she will get used to
being (more) alone with you (= good compliance).
Typical ways to isolate go from just grabbing her hand over I need to
show you something to simply talking to her friends first (Im
borrowing your friend for a minute, Ill bring her back, I promise + big
friendly smile).
Isolation in a club becomes easier when you stay into eyesight with her
friends. She wont feel like you are taking her away and will therefore
be more comfortable with the situation. Her friends on the other hand
will look over and see that everything is okay, so you reduce cock
blocking (I barely get cock blocked at all).
The next steps are once again just techniques that I recommend, try to
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- Spend time together


- Bouncing
- Nicknames, Insider
- Grounding
- Vulnerability
- Physical Comfort
- Befriending her friends
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Before I explain those techniques, another very very (!) important
point: Many people (especially beginners and people who are just
learning comfort) are making the mistake to just become extremely
boring when they start their comfort game! Part of that goes back to
the old MM, where Mystery didnt point out one very crucial point:
When you enter comfort, your attraction game (A2/A3) does not stop!
Yeah you understood me correctly! Many people simply start their
comfort routines and start talking about their family and their dog and I
dont know what! You dont want to be like that! Instead implement
the comfort stuff into the interaction!

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Soon you will have a feeling for when to have a logical conversation
with a girl (= comfort) and for when you need to make a joke or tease
her a little (= attraction). For the beginner the basic guideline will be:
Try to go for comfort, see if she is compliant (= comfort is just another
compliant test) and pay attention to her reactions during the talk.
When you feel like things are getting boring, either bounce (see below)
or throw in some attraction stuff.
Think of the chart above - you want to slowly create balance between
the emotional and the logical side. Dont just go all logical because you
have been all emotional (= attraction) beforehand! Just go a little bit
more into comfort mode and create a long lasting strong connection
(=logical, comfort) while making use of the powerful short term
connection (=emotional, attraction).

Spend time together


Think about the persons in your life that you feel the strongest
connection with! Those are normally the people you have spend a huge
amount of time with! You had good time and bad times, but most of all
you had MANY times together! There are a lot of memories regarding
that person and from all the things you have experienced together, you
really have the feeling you know that person well and can trust this
person. In other words you are feeling comfortable around that person!
Try to spend a lot of time with your target. The more time you have
spend, the more she will feel comfortable around you (= comfort =
logical connection). But dont get boring and dont lose touch with the
emotional side of the game (see the chart above again) or you will end
in the friendzone.

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Now I know its not always easy to spend a lot of time with a girl,
especially not if you want to lay her really really fast! Thats why we
players have some tricks that we use, the most important trick being
bouncing!
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Bouncing
Bouncing is what we call the change of locations. Most guys make the
mistake to always stay at the same place with a girl. For example they
will meet a girl for a drink during a date and thats it. When her friends
ask her what the date was like, she will say Well we had a drink. In
her brain you will be the guy she only had a drink with.
Now lets compare that with a date where you use the power of
bouncing.
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You arrange the date and make her pick you up. When shes at your
door you give her a super short tour through your apartment/house (at
the same time making her more comfortable with your place).
Afterwards you go to a location where you can talk good (for example
drinking cocktails). Instead of ending things here you just drink one
cocktail and move on to an other place afterwards. In that second place
the focus is not on conversation but on other things (cinema, theme
park, etc. some external entertainment). On the way home you stop
at a restaurant and talk a bit more.
By the time you two are back together at your place, the two of you will
have experienced so much more than people do normally on a normal
date. Its like you have fitted three little dates (cocktails, cinema,
restaurant) into one date. And it never got boring!
In addition (in her brain) she will have you connected with several
places at once! You are more present in her brain! And even though
this was just one date, she will have the feeling as if you have known
each other for a much longer time (since this kind of connection is
something that normally only develops after several meetings).
But Bouncing is not only something you can do during dates! Even
when you start meeting her right there in the club, you can create
several memories in a short amount of time! Dont just stand in one
corner and talk to her, this will get boring!
- Check out all the different dance floors
- Never sit at the same place twice (except you like to sit with her
friends)
- Every time you get a drink, go to a different bar (most clubs have
more than one place to get a drink)
If you can, try to bounce outside that very night! Go to a pizza place
close by and grab a snack! Go to a convenient store and buy some
water for the two of you. Go to a different club! To a bar. Go prank the
neighbors! It doesnt even matter!
The goal should be to create as many different memories as possible!

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Small hint: If you have several ideas about what to do, try to do
something she has never done before. In addition its always good to
shoot for extreme emotions! If she is experiencing strong emotions, her
brain will mistake those
strong
emotions
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never forget the first time they rolled this huge rollercoaster! Its the
forth time they forget and dont think about!
So from now on, make use of the time you have with a girl and create
as many memorable moments as possible!

Nicknames, Insider
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is for sure: you guys will have a lot of insiders! Those insiders may be
funny things you experienced together, something funny someone said
at a special situation, a quote from a movie you enjoyed or something
similar.
Those insiders connect the two of you in a special way. Outsiders may
be hearing the words, but they wont understand why you two start
laughing. In other words: Insiders are a group phenomenon. And this is
again something you can use to your advantage!
When you talk with a girl and you see the option to do a reference to
something said earlier, just go for it! Dont think about insiders too
much, since you cant really plan them. But if you and your target have
developed an insider, try to cultivate it.
You can also give her a nickname. Animal names are good, the same
goes for Disney characters and comic figures. Be creative.

Grounding
When I tell you that Bouncing is the most important technique you
want to learn for building comfort, then Grounding is the second most
important!
Grounding means showing her how you became the person that you
are. In other words you are telling her the reasons why you think or
behave in a certain way.
If you think being honest is very important, than there is possible a
reason why you think like that. You may have made experience with
someone who was not honest and you didnt like that. Or you think its
important to be honest because otherwise life would just be chaos and
one could never lay back and relax. Or you think being honest prevents
a lot of drama and therefore you have no place in your life for people
who are not honest.
That is just one example of what could be the reason for you (!) to hold
a certain value high.
Next thing: Why do you work in the job that you have? (financial
independence? being really good at it and feeling fulfilled?) Why do you
enjoy a certain sport?
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A few examples (mostly routines):


HB: What sport do you do?
Aima: I go to the gym three times a week
HB: Oh, so you life weights? ( like everyone else)
Aima: Yeah, I just love how you can measure yourself at the weights.
You know how everything in life change all the time, but I tell you one
thing, 200 pounds is always 200 pounds! And if I manage to lift 205
then Im a better and stronger person than before!
HB: Oh okay *smiling*

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Why is she smiling at the end? Because now she understands why I like
that sport! She can understand my actions and see my motives, I
become more predictable and show her my values! Values are always
intimate informations, therefore she will have the feeling that I open up
to her (I actually do). On top I showed a passion and showing passion
is always good (= being able to have passion for something is
attractive).
Examples:
HB: So what do you do for a living?
Aima: Im a law student, I just passed the bar.
HB: Oh okay
Aima: I know what you may think. But law just comes easy to me. And
being a lawyer is a job I can see myself getting up for in the morning for
something like 40 years. On top I can earn enough money to travel.
You know traveling is my biggest passion. (transition to talking
about traveling).
HB: So are you a family person?
Aima: Well, you know how people always ask if you are a family yes
or a family no person? Im definitely a family yes person. My family
rocks! I love them so much and they are the most precious thing in my
life! My younger brother is the most important person in my life! I
would die for him! What about you?

As you can see Im using some very strong emotions here (love, and
loving something so much you would die for it). But I have never
gotten any bad reaction on that story every. Its because Im congruent
with that story and I honestly feel that way.

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As you can see, grounding comes down to telling her why you feel or
think a certain way. Ask yourself, why do you do your job? Why do you
do that sport? Why do you think family, money, traveling are
important? What are your goals in life? Why do you have those specific
goals? How did your childhood influence you? Puberty?

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If asked, I have reasons for everything I do and think. I can also give
reasons why I feel certain ways. Sharing some of those information with
her will let her into your
world
and she
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that she understands you better than anyone else (=she really knows
you).
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Dont forget that you have it in your hand to trigger a Grounding
conversation. Some questions you may ask.
- What did you want to become when you were a little girl? And dont
tell me a princess
- You look like a person who knows exactly what she wants (self point)

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- Do you like that job?


- What do you look for in a man? I mean apart from him being
awesome in bed.

Vulnerability
When talking about Grounding we also have to talk about Vulnerability.
Dont be afraid to show some vulnerability during Comfort. But dont
overdo it. One little story is normally enough to show that you have a
soft core inside your attractive and strong character.
Example:
HB: Being faithful is very important to me
Aima: I know what you are talking about. My second girlfriend was
cheating on me. I caught her in the act.
HB: Not really (shocked)
Aima: Yeah, I had a student job at a baker store, trying to earn some
money for my driving license (shits expensive in germany) that was at
a time when she complained and said I should spend more time with
her. So I managed to leave work earlier and drove directly from work to
her place. When I arrived, she was not alone
HB: Oh wow Im so sorry.
Aima (shy smile) Normally I dont tell this anyone. Its crazy how
comfortable I feel around you
HB *smiling comforting*
You see how I turned the conversation at the end? I used the story to
create some strong emotions inside her (maybe someone cheated on
her too, at least she can imagine it) while giving her reasons to trust me
(= he was cheated on, he wont do it to me because he knows how
much it hurts) while also telling a story of how I worked for my future
(=driving license) and was putting effort into a girl I liked (=every girl
wants that). Finally I was taking all those strong emotions from the past
right to the present. By sharing a secret she has the feeling to be
something special, but speaking about how comfortable I feel around
her she will feel more comfortable herself.
And in case you wonder: Yes, this is a true story! And yes, it is one of
my strongest routines! At the end I do often take her hand a caress it
(=physical comfort).
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But always remember: After such a heavy story with enormous


emotions, you want to relax the atmosphere and either talk about
something funny and relaxing or bounce. Dont even let the emotions
get you down you have made your point (in this case =being
vulnerable, being faithful, being a good boyfriend, Grounding). Now you
want to move on in the interaction.

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Comfort doesnt always have to be verbal. I love to use kino for building
comfort. You can hug her when she tells you a very sad story and hold
her really tight. But you can also do what I like to call couple kino:
When walking with her, hold her hand. Dont ask, just take it as if its
the most normal thing to do.
Other things you can do:
- Caress her neck
- Caress her hands during conversation
- Lay your arm around her
- Caress her leg
- Touch/Lay your hand on her lower back
And this includes also every move you have ever done to show your
former girlfriend how much you liked her.
I call this couple kino because you dont want to make her horny, but
you want to make her feel more comfortable and make her feel secure.
The idea is to give her an idea what it would be like to be your girlfriend
/ spend more time with you. And you want away some fears she may
have.

Befriending her friends


When ever you have the chance, try to befriend her friends briefly. In a
club, a girl will often be out with her friends! Those friends can be the
biggest cock blocks or they can be super supportive! Your goal is to
make them like you as much as possible in the shortest time possible!
Most of the time the friends will be worried that you are the wrong
guy for their friend! Talk with the group or the friends, exchange a few
words and show them you are just a normal guy, no crazy psycho that
is going to rape her friend! You dont need to force this talk, instead
just throw a question at the friend and see if she is willing to talk. Be
genuine and humble.
I often ask the friend: So how do you two (target and her) know each
other? Are you classmates/workmates? That makes them both talk and
creates some group energy.
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like her friends! Often a friend will come over and be quite protective
about her friend, look if shes alright and then go away again. Here I
often say She is really looking after you! You can be glad to have a
friend like her, thats only something really good friends do for each
other!
She often replies Yeah, she is the best with a big smile. Now she has
the feeling that I like and understand her friends, what makes it much
easier for her to see me as part of her group. She also doesnt need to
be afraid to have me join the group, because she knows I will be
positive and friendly towards her friends!

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All this leads to her having a good positive feeling towards you
(=comfort).

Final words on skipping comfort:


I know guys who say they pull girls without comfort. I have pulled girls
with almost zero comfort myself. When you have really really strong
attraction game and the situation and the girl are in your favor, it can
work. But pay attention to what I said. I said I have pulled girls with
ALMOST zero comfort. Some comfort has to be there.
It is a 100% fact that you wont have sex with a girl thats not feeling
comfortable on a basic level. Maybe she is trusting strangers easily, then
you dont need much comfort game. Maybe your appearance or how
other people treat you are making her feel comfortable. Maybe she has
watched you beforehand and feels like you are save.
Fact is: Maybe she is comfortable enough around you WITHOUT YOU
DOING ANYTHING. Thats right, I have experiences many situations
where I didnt have to do any comfort game to win the girl. But just
because I didnt have to run comfort game doesnt mean there was no
comfort. The comfort was there so I didnt have to create it.
Think about it: Sometimes the girl just seems to find you super
attractive without you having done anything! The same can happen for
comfort. Unluckily, there is almost never a case when she both finds you
instantly attractive and is instantly comfortable with you. In most cases
you have to work on at least one end, mostly you will have to do work
on both ends.
Is it therefore a good advice to skip comfort when you just want to
bang her quickly? No it is not! But with what you have learned here,
you can tell quite quickly if she is comfortable enough around you (=
comfort is another compliance test). And if you feel there is no need for
comfort, then skip comfort. But if you are not sure add a tiny bit of
comfort and gather her reaction. Then take it from there!

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And if you are a beginner, do the comfort.


If you want to make her your girlfriend, do the comfort.
If you want her to make you breakfast next morning, do the comfort.
If you want to reduce
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And if you want her to give her best in bed, do the comfort.
Is comfort a must have? In most situations, yes!
And I swear you will recognize the situation when its one of those rare
cases when you dont need comfort.

Sex (S1, S2, S3)


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You have successfully attracted the girl. You have (during the same
night or over one/ a few dates) created enough comfort.
Congratulations, now its time for the actual sex!
Mystery divided the Sex into three parts:
S1: Foreplay (in the sex location, e.g. your bedroom)
S2: Last Minute Resistance (LRM)
S3: The Sex happens
Once again I dont think a separation in different phases is necessary.
Just focus on the main thing: Getting her horny and getting it in!
If you have done everything else (=attraction and comfort) correctly,
you wont face any problems. Having sex is no longer her decision, but
you have made it your decision. If you have used your knowledge to
create attraction and to build comfort, you have earned the sex. You
seduced this women. And she is on and about to fall for you.
Congratulations!

On Last Minute Resistance


In case of last minute resistance, most people recommend a freeze out.
I have never done a freeze out successfully. All I ever did was being
persistent and trying to make her horny.
A few techniques:
- Kiss her neck and ears
- Tell her how horny she makes you
- Pull your cock out
- Touch her between her legs, touch her breast
- Breath heavily
- Maybe bite her gently
- Moan
Then if she still resists, make a small break. Do some light attraction and
comfort game, then initiate again by telling her how you cant stop,
how horny she makes you. If you have a boner, its recommended to
pull it out!

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If the girl is really shy (or a virgin) she may need a lot more comfort
than normal women.
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your cock out. Take it from there, be dominant, then gentle, funny,
again dominant and dont break the atmosphere.
If that doesnt help, break the atmosphere, take her mind off and then
surprise her but going for the sex again. Always smile when she pushes
you away. This girl is already making out with you, so her rejection is
just a joke. Smile it off.
She has probably never seen a guy taking LMR that way, and that alone
will make her curious what a guy like that is going to be like in bed.

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One last advice: if you face strong LRM often, then the problem lies
somewhere in your game, may it be Attraction or Comfort. Fix the
problem and the LMR will go. Dont focus on breaking LRM when the
real problem was your game beforehand.

Additional Pointers
On kissing
In which phase should you kiss the girl? Well, I like to kiss the girls
during my comfort game, when she starts to feel Im not only attractive
but also different. Sometimes I kiss the girls when my attraction is
super strong and then I take her to a quiet corner and start building
comfort so she wont forget about me. There have been rare cases
when I kissed girls the first time in my bedroom (during the Sex-Phase
(S1-S3)).
As you can see, everything is possible here. Try to find out what works
for you!

On different phases of the seduction


People always criticize the MM is too static and doesnt leave room for
natural interactions! They assume people always see the different
phases and act accordingly from A1 to A2 to A3 and so on and so far.
But thats simply not true (at least no one I know is strictly following
the script).
As Ive pointed out earlier the line between A2/A3 and Comfort is
undefined during comfort you dont want to get boring but instead
you do still want to DHV from time to time (A2) and let her qualify to
you (A3). In other words there are no strict lines!
And you dont even have to follow the different steps there can be
situations when you dont need some of the steps and can move on
much much by skipping a step. Think about what I said about skipping
A3 or even skipping Comfort (rare cases I have to admit, but as you get
experiences you will play on a different level (= see the matrix)).
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Think about the flowers in your garden. Flowers need care. Everyone
tells you to water your plants. But when you go out and you see its
raining, you wouldnt think one second about going out and watering
the plants, right? Thats common sense!
From now on I ask you to apply that common sense in your seduction
too! When the girl is super attracted right from the start, you dont
need much DHV, you may be able to skip A2 all together and directly
start A3 (female-to-male-qualifying). Maybe she will directly be very
compliant after your first Compliance routine (e.g. give her a spin or a
hug or holding her hand) and then you move directly to comfort OR

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you may even try to isolate her directly (because she is Down To Fuck
(DTF) and just wants you badly right there in her friends bedroom next
door/ in the club toilet/ in her car, etc.!).
But for all this to work you need to ask yourself: Do I need this Phase of
the seduction or do I not? Luckily, the more experience you have, the
better you will be at answering this question.
By the way: Skipping phases that were needed is normally the end of
your seduction. My favorite example is a drunk guy at a club: He opens
the chick (A1), may even be able to build some attraction (A2) but then
he does not qualify the girl (skipping A3) and she will assume he will
take home any girl and that hes just after any pussy. He will probably
skip Comfort too and thats it. NEXT! Drunk guy can watch his girl going
home with me. I dont feel sorry for him, its his own fault.
Even worse: The drunk guy that just opens with the line Do you want
to have sex with me?. While this is a more direct line that creates some
attraction when delivered congruently (mostly not the case with drunk
guys) its probably not enough attraction to make the girl compliant to
the huge compliant test will you sleep with me! Remember: After
opening she still things her value is higher than yours!
So just apply some common sense and you will be surprised how
smooth things can work in your favor.

Last Words
Now if you have some questions regarding this (extremely long) guide,
feel free to ask. Post a question right here if its a small question or
open a new topic with a question that is bigger (and send me a PM with
the link so I see the topic).
This post was over half a year in the making. When I wrote the first
lines it was autumn of 2012. Back then it was called Updated to 2012.
I want to say Im honestly sorry for all the spelling and grammar
mistakes, I did my best.
I wish that the community benefits from this guide and that people
start to talk a little bit more about comfort, helping all those young
souls that would like to have girl falling on love with them.
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I have never been a commercial coach and I will never be. The
community taught me how to pick up girls. I want to give something
back for the younger generation (though many guys may actually be
older than me).
Experience is the key. Use this guide to figure out AFTERWARDS while
certain things worked and why others didnt work. Improve and
become a better man. The women will be happy.
Greeting and all the best,

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For how many years have I been telling people that everything
important, Mystery already said?
Guys who think it's "outdated" don't understand what it is: the art of
parallel and consistency.
100% agree that it's more a theory than a method.
It's an NLP breakdown of successful seduction, a way of modeling what
has been observed to be effective.
And a brilliant one at that.

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Originally Posted by ChitownMaverick


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For how many years have I been telling people that everything
important, Mystery already said?
Guys who think it's "outdated" don't understand what it is: the
art of parallel and consistency.
100% agree that it's more a theory than a method.

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It's an NLP breakdown of successful seduction, a way of


modeling what has been observed to be effective.
And a brilliant one at that.

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theory based on generating attraction? Along wioth swinggcat. Know


we see no other method/theory who talk aboti the ways to genberate
attraction , what i mena about that is making a person who was not
getting a shit about you at the start like/ have interest in you or even
chasing.
Shy thus concpet is know not used noit talked. This not the real
seduction?

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It's also really nice to see someone mention the importance of


Grounding.
Too many guys, when asked a direct question about who they are, like
to give some dumbass C&F answer and just evade the question.
Fuck that noise!!
Own who you are, know how and why you became who you are, and
express it fully. Not many people are so confident that they can own
themselves in such a way. Major bonus points.

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If people would just understand this basic concept


(A1,A2,A3;Comfort;Sex) they would know exactly where they went
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wrong during their seduction and could improve where they need to
improve on.
I would be happy if my guide were used for the new players guide many young players could be helped that way!
For myself, I just have to say: When I learned and understood about
the MM, I became really good with women. Getting laid was no longer a
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Originally Posted by ChitownMaverick

It's also really nice to see someone mention the importance of


Grounding.
Too many guys, when asked a direct question about who they
are, like to give some dumbass C&F answer and just evade
the question.
Fuck that noise!!

Well, there is a time for C&F, but it's during Attraction Phase. You really
don't want to start the Conversation with Grounding.
But then if you stick with C&F alone all the time and never transition
into comfort, that's when the girl will forget about you and don't reply
to your texts the next day.
Greetings,
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This thread is really outstanding and definitely deserves inclusion in the
HoF or Newbie Guide. You've given us fresh eyes to make the familiar
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I really want to spend some more time to reflect on these classic ideas
again before offering more constructive commentary but I just wanted
to express my gratitude for your fine work here Aima. It's obvious you
put a lot of effort into analyzing and writing this up for everyone's
benefit, so thanks and bravo.
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The biggest thing i see in the new-more natural way of seduction is the
absance of ways to generate attraction like In mystery Method.

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Is this because generatign attraction is just a myth or because it


became ibsolate cause we prefer seducing the girls who alerady like us ?

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Awesome guide man, huge props for writing this up and thanks for
shooting me the PM. Really great stuff here!

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As you know, comfort was always one of the things i never paid
attention to because it seemed unnecessary to me. The way you
emphasize it and break it down is great. I especially find the part about
attraction being a fleeting feeling when not much comfort is mixed in,
to be true. This is why when I couldn't have a SDL it was much harder
to end up getting the girl. This is why my lays would rarely turn into
more than a ONS or fuckbuddy.
It makes sense now that by tweaking the amount of comfort you give a
girl, you can determine what kind of relationship you two will have.
My only question for you, is do you ever find that by creating too much
comfort (while still being attractive of course) you make it harder to get
the same night lay? That she slots you into the 'potential boyfriend'
category instead of the 'secret lover' category?

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This thread is really outstanding and definitely deserves


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Originally Posted by Witcher

The biggest thing i see in the new-more natural way of


seduction is the absance of ways to generate attraction like In
mystery Method.
Is this because generatign attraction is just a myth or because
it became ibsolate cause we prefer seducing the girls who
alerady like us ?

I think guys prefer to seduce the girls that already like them because
gathering attraction is by far the hardest part of the game! Comfort is
not that hard, once you have a little experience. Same goes for
escalating to sex - it's the same things basically, all the time!
Attraction is different, it's much more fluid and much more complex!

Originally Posted by Bullseye

My only question for you, is do you ever find that by creating


too much comfort (while still being attractive of course) you
make it harder to get the same night lay? That she slots you
into the 'potential boyfriend' category instead of the 'secret
lover' category?

Well, if you indeed create "too much comfort" you are going to pull her
too much on the logical side. This happens often when the guy forgets
about his attraction game during comfort (= they get boring).
It's really all about the balance!
But don't mistake "building comfort" with "becoming boyfriend
material". The idea is not to make her want a relationship with you - the
idea is to make her more comfortable (and stay attractive at the same
time).

So to answer your question: "Too much (!) comfort" is always bad


because you need to keep the attraction up. If you get boring you will
lose attraction. And if you spend too much (!) time in the comfort phase
in a night club environment, you will get boring.

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Think about it: Your goal is to create as much comfort as nessaccary for
laying her. But you can
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will backfire. The time you can spend building comfort depends on the
attraction you have build and your skill to hold attraction high while
building comfort.
The better you get at combining Attraction and Comfort, the more time
you can spend at comfort without her feeling bored. And therefore the
deeper your connection with her will be.
Bouncing, Physical comfort and befriending her friends (see above) are
your main weapons here.

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Or to put it in other words: Comfort is only "too much" when she is not
attracted enough (anymore).
Also think about it that way:
If a girl doesn't want to have sex with a guy because he is "relationshipmaterial", then it's always because she feels comfortable around him,
but not attracted enough. The girl wants to wait to see if he is attractive
enough or not (if not she will LJBF him).
The connection (=comfort) is never the problem, it's always the
attraction that is lacking in these situation.
I hope this could answer your question, if not just keep asking
Greetings,
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0--Like Dai, I'll take some more time to read through and reflect on your
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- Absolutely agree with you. Mystery had it all figured out, and he didn't
really write down a "how-to" for seduction, but a model that describes
the structure of what happens in pretty much every seduction. I have
looked back at every single one of my seductions and have always seen
that it followed the A-C-S model pretty closely. It's just not how I
motivate my escalation, but it's what happens. It is however, up to us
to fill the structure with our own content, and that is where styles differ.
- on Attraction: I think the entire "non-chasing" movement here (of
which I consider myself a part) is just another way of playing indirect
game, and the mindset that goes along with it. I read "bait-hook-reelrelease" in your OP here for the first time in a long time, and it hit me
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I disagree
with
you, I don't think it is difficult in
normal conversation, it can kinda structure entire conversations about
any topic. It also structures the way I kiss a girl, very often.
- on Comfort: I've always been a bit wary about this one, because I
don't do Mystery-style comfort at all. But in the end, comfort can just
mean vibing with her friends and dancing with her group for a short
time, or any other way of getting her trust (I would rather call this
phase "getting trust" or "getting intimacy", which is more what I do in
my style).

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Anyway, that's just top of my mind. Hope I'll have some time to look
more deeply into this, thanks for the effort anyway.

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