District Attorney Walter P. Reed Testimony Federal Eastern District Admissions of Hobbs Act Violations Convicted Felon2016-0429

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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WALTER P. REED
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STEVEN P. REED
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15 CR 100
Section L
April 29, 2016
CROSS EXAMINATION OF
WALTER P. REED
IN THE JURY TRIAL BEFORE THE
HONORABLE ELDON E. FALLON
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
Appearances:
For the United States:
U.S. Attorney's Office

BY: JORDAN GINSBERG, ESQ.
BRIAN M. KLEBBA, ESQ.
MARIA M. CARBONI, ESQ.
MARQUEST MEEKS, ESQ.
650 Poydras Street, Suite 1600
New Orleans, Louisiana 70130
For Walter P. Reed:
Hailey McNamara Hall Larmann

& Papale, LLP
BY: RICHARD T. SIMMONS JR., ESQ.
B. MARIANNE WISE, ESQ.
One Galleria Boulevard, Suite 1400
Post Office Box 8288
Metairie, Louisiana 70011 8288
For Steven P. Reed:
Willis Law Group, PLLC

BY: W. GLENN BURNS, ESQ.
1100 Poydras Street, Suite 2602
Official Court Reporter:
Toni Doyle Tusa, CCR, FCRR

500 Poydras Street, Room B 275
(504) 589 7778
Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography using

computer aided transcription software.
INDEX
Page
Cross Examination By Mr. Ginsberg
EXCERPT
(April 29, 2016)
THE COURT:
Be seated, please.
You are still under oath, sir.
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WALTER REED,
having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Good afternoon, Mr. Reed.
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A.
Hello, Mr. Ginsberg.
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Q.
You were the chief law enforcement officer for over
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300,000 people for approximately 30 years, weren't you?
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A.
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much, much smaller place.
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Q.
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St. Tammany and Washington Parishes, right?
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A.
Yes, that's correct.
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Q.
You held that position for nearly 30 years?
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A.
That's it.
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Q.
You were the head of your office, were you not?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
Towards the end you had, what, approximately 47, 48 ADAs
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under you?
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A.
Probably 45, 46.
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Q.
And then with a bunch of staff members as well, support
Not exactly.
How are you?
Back when I first took office, it was a
Well, you were the chief law enforcement officer of
You're close, though.
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staff?
A.
I think maybe 135 people, 140 maybe.
Q.
You spent your whole life, your whole adult life, at
least, in law enforcement, didn't you?
A.
Yes.
Q.
So you know the importance of trust?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And honor?
A.
Yeah.
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Q.
Integrity?
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A.
I do, yeah.
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Q.
Precision?
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A.
No, I'm not a precision guy.
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test.
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Q.
You were also the head of your campaign?
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A.
I'm sorry?
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Q.
You were the head of your campaign.
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A.
I was the head of it?
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Q.
My question is:
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Campaign entity?
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A.
Yeah, yeah.
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Q.
You did have a lot of help.
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Ron Garrity?
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A.
Ron was a big help.
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Q.
He was the treasurer of the campaign?
I'm sorry.
I flunked that
Is that your question?
You were the head of the Walter Reed
With a lot of help, I was.

You had a lot of help from
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A.
He was the treasurer.
Q.
And the campaign, it filed taxes separately than you did
personally.
A.
It did.
Q.
You created that in 1991?
A.
I'm not sure about that.
Q.
With the help of Mr. Garrity?
A.
I'm not sure about the
Q.
The address listed for the campaign, it was actually
It had its own tax identification number, right?
it
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wasn't your home.
It was Ron Garrity's office, right?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
The campaign had its own bank accounts?
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A.
It did.
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Q.
Capital One Bank?
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A.
I think it moved around from place to place.
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Q.
You had some at Capital One.
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Resource Bank?
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A.
Yeah, that would be right.
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Q.
The campaign earned interest, right, the accounts?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
The campaign also entered into a variety of legal
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contracts, right?
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A.
With my campaign?
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Q.
Uh huh.
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A.
I would have to look at something to convince me of that.
Yeah.
You also had some at
It had cell phone contracts with Verizon?
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Q.
Somebody else would have been in charge of that?
A.
Yeah.
campaign?
Q.
right, that was in the name of your campaign?
exhibit earlier?
A.
insurance.
Q.
In the name of the campaign?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
In the campaign, the whole goal of it was to receive
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donations, wasn't it?
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A.
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to win your next election and to stay in office.
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election is not to win by 51 percent; it's to not have an
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opponent.
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Q.
Is to get reelected?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
Every day you were campaigning?
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A.
I campaigned every day, as my former wife testified.
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Q.
I think part of your testimony was that as part of your
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daily campaign, you had friends and family helping you?
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A.
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family.
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Q.
Cell phones for my campaign, paid for from my

Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
Your campaign also had liability insurance for events,

You saw that
Well, the Castine Center would require liability
No.
The whole purpose of the campaign, Mr. Ginsberg, is

And to win an
That's what I tried to do every day.
That's the base.
That's the political base, friends and
Chris Reed, that's your nephew, right?
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A.
Yes.
Q.
John Currence, your brother in law [sic]?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
He came all the way from Mississippi, didn't he?
A.
He did.
Q.
He has been living in Oxford a good long while now?
A.
I think he's been there 25 years.
Q.
And your sister Connie Grantham?
A.
Connie lives in Oxford
He is sitting right back there.
He came here to support me.
He sure did.
no, I'm sorry, in Brookhaven,
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Mississippi.
She has lived there for 10 years maybe, eight
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years.
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Q.
You're not sure?
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A.
Something like that.
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Q.
That's more than 8 or 10 years ago, though, right?
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A.
Something like that.
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Q.
Lindsay Reed, we talked about her.
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right?
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A.
Lindsay is my baby girl.
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Q.
Steven Reed, that's your son?
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A.
Steven is my son.
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Q.
You had help from people other than just your immediate
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family, right?
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A.
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prominent up in especially Washington Parish, and they helped a
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lot.
I don't know.
Not since the late 1980s, really 1990s?
She is your daughter,
Just had a birthday.
Your business partner, Bubba Moseley?
Yeah, Bubba helped and his family.
His family are very
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Q.
Oh, I forgot one.
A.
Reagan, yeah.
Q.
Is he the one who got the free scholarship to Tulane from
another politician?
A.
He did.
Reagan, your son.
Shawn and I had three kids in college.
Since you brought up the scholarship, I would like to
explain to the jury.
scholarship he got was from State Representative Harold
Ritchie, and Harold had not had anybody apply for the Tulane
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And so Harold and I were good friends.
He said,
"Walter, you can have it."
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The
scholarship in five years.
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My son did get a scholarship.
"I said, I only want it if nobody else applies for

it."
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So nobody else applied for it, and Reagan Reed got
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that scholarship to go to Tulane.
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Q.
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connections?
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A.
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graduated with honors from Tulane, he did.
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Q.
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your office, right?
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A.
Huh?
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Q.
You got benefits working with Leo Hemelt.
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under you, right?
So your son got a free scholarship thanks to you and your
My son got a scholarship and graduated cum laude.
He
You also had the benefits of some people who worked in
He was an ADA
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A.
Who?
Q.
Leo Hemelt.
A.
Yeah.
Q.
He was an ADA in your office?
A.
He was.
Q.
Lane Carson, another ADA in your office?
A.
Yes, yeah.
Q.
Bernard Smith, ADA in your office?
A.
Yes.
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Q.
Shawn Branch, she worked in your office?
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A.
Who?
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Q.
Shawn Branch.
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A.
Shawn Branch?
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Q.
Yes.
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A.
No.
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a secretary.
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Q.
What did she do in your office?
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A.
Secretary.
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Q.
You also had some other close friends involved.
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You don't remember him?
Yeah, I remember him.
She was
that's going way, way, way back.
She was
Claire Ursin, you said you dated her for 10 years or
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so?
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A.
Yeah.
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Q.
Her son Kyle?
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A.
Kyle, yes.
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Q.
You cared a lot for Kyle, right?
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Yeah, yeah, I did.
You could see when he walked in, he
A.
had no self esteem and really, really shy.
and
Q.
You cared a lot for him, didn't you?
A.
I did.
Q.
You cared a lot for Claire?
A.
Claire, we could spend a whole afternoon talking about
Claire.
Q.
That you dated for 10 years?
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A.
I'm sorry?
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Q.
That you dated for about 10 years?
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A.
Well, with about maybe 15 or 20 breakups along the way.
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Q.
You paid Harry Pastuszek $32,000 to help her finalize her
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divorce, right?
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A.
I did.
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Q.
Claire's mother, Carolyn Bradley
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mother, correct?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
Claire, just so we are clear, you sent her some flowers
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out of your campaign expenses, right?
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A.
I did.
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Q.
Exhibit 96.05.
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A.
If you say that.
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Q.
No.
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I loved that boy
Claire was an emotionally disturbed individual.
I sure did.
Sometimes
that was Claire's
I don't know.
I wasn't asking you, sir.

This is an example of flowers you sent out of your
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campaign to her?
A.
was me.
Q.
Out of your campaign?
A.
Out of my campaign, paid for with campaign money,
Mr. Ginsberg.
Q.
were trying to donate to help you get reelected?
A.
"Happy Mother's Day, Love, Kyle and Walter."
Yeah, that
I sent those.
Paid for by the money of hardworking men and women who
Paid for with campaign money, people who contributed money
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to my campaign.
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Q.
For the purpose of helping you get reelected?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
Kyle Ursin, let's talk about him.
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about a party you had for him, correct?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
Correct?
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that party?
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A.
Yes, something like that.
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Q.
You did that because he was Claire's son, right?
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A.
I did that because it was allowable by Louisiana campaign
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law
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Q.
Sir, that wasn't my question.
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A.
Wait, wait, wait.
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Q.
No, sir.
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A.
Well, I'm trying to, if you will please let me answer.
You remember, you spent
There's been some talk
how much was that on
500, 600 bucks?
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WALTER REED
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I gave him those flowers because he was Claire's son
and he was Jim and Carolyn Bradley's grandson, who were two of
the best supporters I have ever had.
very, very early days of my campaign.
Q.
$600 dinner you paid for Kyle at
Plantation.
A.
Yeah.
Q.
You didn't attend?
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A.
I think it was a birthday party.
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Q.
Okay.
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A.
And Big Jim Bradley's grandson.
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Q.
Before you started dating Claire, how many birthday
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parties had you paid for for Kyle?
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A.
I didn't know Kyle before that.
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Q.
And the $500 you paid him for not working at an America
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event?
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A.
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that was a graduation gift, which is specifically allowable by
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Louisiana campaign law.
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Q.
You had that reflected in the report as labor, right?
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A.
No.
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is all
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Q.
So it's not right, correct?
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A.
It's not accurate.
They were there in the
I'm not talking about flowers, sir.
I'm talking about a
I think it's Annadele's
Do you remember that?
You did that because he was Claire's son?
That $500
I sure did.
Kyle, if you remember, testified up here that
Mr. Ginsberg, the reporting
my campaign reporting
it's not false, but it's not accurate.
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WALTER REED
CROSS
Q.
So it's wrong, correct?
A.
No.
It's just
It's not accurate.
MR. GINSBERG:
It's not right.
It's not wrong.
Let's go ahead and pull that up.
Pull
up Exhibit 5 on page
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Could you please read what it says in the "Purpose" line.
A.
"Kyle Ursin, labor."
Q.
Keep going.
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A.
"Fundraising event."
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Q.
Your testimony today is that he did not provide any labor
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at the fundraising event, correct?
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A.
No, he didn't.
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Q.
You were the ultimate decision maker about what to list in
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that box, weren't you?
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A.
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known you guys were coming on the scene, I would have taken a
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lot, lot more care in making sure that these were all right and
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accurate.
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Q.
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calling, did you?
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A.
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never, ever asked about any of this.
I was.
And if I could go back and do it over
had I
But you didn't think that anybody was going to come

You thought you could get away with it?
The ethics board, they never did
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is it 82?
in 30 years they
When I first started, things were way different back

then.
We started just using these words to describe what the
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campaign
and they are not accurate, a lot of them.
them are, but some of them are not.
Q.
started just using words that looked like campaign
expenditures?
A.
No, no.
Q.
This is a $500 birthday gift, sir?
A.
That's way off, but like "campaign event" or
Q.
Well, what does this say?
So I want to explore that a little bit.
"labor for fundraising event," correct?
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A.
That's not accurate at all.
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Q.
So that's wrong?
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A.
I think Kyle testified to that.
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Q.
That was wrong, correct?
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A.
That was absolutely wrong, yes.
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MR. GINSBERG:
You said you
What does it say?
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A lot of
It says
It was a graduation gift.
Go to page 1, please.
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
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Q.
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right there, you swore to tell the truth, swore the report to
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be accurate, correct?
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A.
I see that, yes.
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Q.
You saw that?
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but you signed these reports, correct?
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A.
I did.
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Q.
Your testimony today is those reports were not accurate?
On these campaign reports, just so we are clear, line 10
I see that, yeah.
You signed these reports electronically,
I signed them.
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WALTER REED
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A.
No, some of them were not.
Q.
Lots of mistakes in them?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
So it's your position, as you testify here today, that
that $500 to Kyle Ursin was not
A.
It was not that.
Q.
It was not for that?
A.
It was a graduation gift.
Q.
Before you started dating Claire, how many times had you
It was
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had sent flowers to Carolyn Bradley?
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A.
Carolyn?
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Q.
Uh huh.
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A.
I don't know.
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Q.
Does the number zero sound about right, sir?
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A.
That might be right.
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Q.
Towards the end of your testimony this morning, sir, you
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were asked some questions about St. Tammany Parish Hospital.
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
I think your words were:
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clearer."
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A.
With that letter.
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Q.
Well, we will talk about that in a little bit.
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A.
Okay.
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Q.
It's your position, as you sit here today, that you began
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attending hospital meetings in May of 1994, correct?
I don't remember.
Is that right?
You have the records.
"I don't know what could be
Do you remember saying that?
I was referring to that letter.
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A.
Yes.
Q.
I'm sorry?
A.
I said yes.
Q.
So you're familiar that in June of 1994, the hospital
explicitly passed a resolution retaining the office
District Attorney's office and not you, correct?
A.
It may have.
Q.
I'll help you remember.
the
I can't remember back that many years.
MR. GINSBERG:
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THE WITNESS:
Pull up Exhibit 50, please.

I saw it.
I saw it.
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
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Q.
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paragraph D, the first sentence, please.
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A.
You want me to read that?
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Q.
If you don't mind, please, yeah.
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A.
"Whereas Service District No. 1," which is the hospital,
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"desires to develop a fee arrangement with the District
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Attorney's office that will create a retainer for the District
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Attorney's office that will entitle Service District No. 1 to
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legal services for a specified number of hours for such
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retainer, with a provision that hours in excess thereof will be
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billed by the District Attorney's office at $81 per hour."
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Q.
It doesn't say that it's hiring Walter Reed, does it?
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A.
No, it doesn't.
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Q.
It says it's hiring the District Attorney's office?
I want to make sure you're clear.
Can you read
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A.
Yes.
Q.
That happened after you supposedly started going to the
meetings, correct?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
This was passed by the board, correct?
A.
Looks like it.
Q.
At the time Paul Cordes was chairperson of that board,
correct?
A.
That's it.
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Q.
That wasn't, sir, the only
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That's right.
MR. GINSBERG:
Well, can you pull up the board
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meeting minutes from June from 1994.
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.03, please.
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
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Q.
Mr. Cordes was the chairperson?
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A.
Yeah, he was the chairperson.
I think that's 47.04
Those are the executive minutes.
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MR. GINSBERG:
If you could go to the last page, I
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think, please, page 11.
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
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Q.
This is a copy of that resolution, sir, right?
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A.
Looks like it.
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Q.
So in June of 1994, after you had supposedly started
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attending the meetings, the hospital made clear it was
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hiring/retaining the District Attorney's office, correct?
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A.
That's what that document says.
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Q.
That's what the board said, correct?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
There was a big flurry
October 1996, you had a big concern.
and you and Ms. Reed were all together trying to draft a
resolution.
A.
I do.
Q.
You did that because you knew the Volz campaign was going
to reveal that you were pocketing money sent to the District
That's what the resolution says.

remember your testimony about
You said Harry Pastuszek
Do you remember that testimony?
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Attorney's office, didn't you?
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A.
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that happened, "pocket."
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Q.
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Attorney's
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A.
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word.
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Q.
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money; isn't that right?
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A.
No, sir.
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Q.
So there was this big flurry.
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went to work to give you cover; isn't that correct?
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A.
No, sir.
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Q.
Beginning about October 15 or 16, you and Shawn and Harry
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started trying to draft a resolution; isn't that correct?
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A.
Pocket?
Mr. Ginsberg, that in no way describes anything
You weren't pocketing the money from the District
No.
from the hospital?
I know you like that word, but that's not the right
You needed to cover that up because you knew it was public
No, no
You and Shawn and Harry
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You didn't try to start drafting a resolution to
Q.
provide
A.
Shawn and Harry did.
Q.
You knew about that resolution, correct?
A.
Oh, yeah, I knew about it.
in that too.
Q.
October 18, Shawn and Harry
testimony
10
correct?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
They were exchanging drafts of a resolution because, as
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you knew, the board had not enacted a resolution recognizing
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that you were representing it; isn't that correct?
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
That was because in June of 1994, the hospital had enacted
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a resolution saying they were hiring the District Attorney's
18
office; isn't that correct?
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A.
No.
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Q.
Did the June 1994 resolution say it was hiring the
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District Attorney's office?
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A.
Yes, it does.
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Q.
There was no other resolution passed, correct?
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A.
No.
25
Q.
You had been attending board meetings for a variety of
Mr. Cordes was very involved
Well, let's talk about that for a second too.
So
you sat here through all the
started exchanging drafts of a resolution,
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boards during your time in office; isn't that correct?
A.
Variety of boards?
Q.
You knew that a resolution had to be passed by the full
board, correct?
A.
This was the only board meeting I ever attended, sir.
Q.
You're aware about how boards work, aren't you, Mr. Reed?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
You know that the board has to vote on a resolution and
pass something, correct?
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A.
Yes.
Yes, sir.
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Q.
That's why you wanted to have a resolution passed in 1996,
12
correct?
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A.
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it indicated the true nature of my services and my involvement
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with the hospital.
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Q.
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hiring the District Attorney's office, correct?
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screen still.
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A.
I don't know how to answer your question.
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Q.
The resolution passed by the board in June of 1994
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
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A.
Yes.
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Q.
There was no resolution passed between 1994 and October of
25
1996, correct?
We wanted to make sure it was clear and it was right, that
Because the resolution that had been passed said it was

It's on the
It's highlighted.
hired the District Attorney's office.
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A.
That's correct.
Q.
You understood that in order for the board to take action,
a resolution had to be passed.
A.
Yes.
Q.
So you and Shawn and Harry worked together to send a draft
resolution to the hospital for passage, correct?
A.
Along with Mr. Cordes, we did.
Q.
The resolution was faxed to Mr. Cordes, correct?
A.
We sent it to Mr. Cordes after
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Q.
This June 1994 resolution was passed while Mr. Cordes was
11
chairperson, correct?
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A.
Can I answer your first question?
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Q.
You did, sir.
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A.
No, no, no.
You understood that.
I'm asking about the June
I didn't finish answering your question, sir.
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Mr. Cordes was involved in this process, this secret
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conspiracy that you were just describing about pocketing money
17
and all.
18
wanted to make sure that it got passed, that it got done right.
19
Mr. Cordes was involved in that process, and he
MR. GINSBERG:
Let's pull up Exhibit 47.13.
20
BY MR. GINSBERG:
21
Q.
22
Mr. Cordes the morning of October 21, 1996?
23
her testimony from yesterday?
24
A.
Yes.
25
Q.
You remember that she wanted to
Do you recall that Ms. Reed faxed the draft resolution to

Do you remember
she and Harry and you
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wanted to do that so it could be discussed and passed at the
next hospital board meeting, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
That was the October 21 board meeting, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Paul Cordes was the chairperson of that meeting?
A.
He was.
Q.
You were in attendance at that meetings?
A.
I was.
10
Q.
We have gone through the October 1996 board minutes
11
ad nauseam, but suffice it to say, as you sit here now, you are
12
aware that that resolution was never considered by the board.
13
A.
It was never passed.
14
Q.
You were aware at the time, because you attended the
15
meeting, that the resolution didn't even come up for
16
discussion; isn't that correct?
17
A.
18
that meeting.
19
just can't remember 20 years ago.
20
old, and my memory isn't quite as good as it used to be.
21
don't remember that meeting.
22
Q.
23
Harry were working together, exchanging draft resolutions,
24
sending it, trying to hurry to get it to the hospital board in
25
time for the October 21 meeting.
Mr. Ginsberg, that's 20 years ago, and I can't remember

What you're saying may very well be true.
I'm sorry.
I'm 70 years
But I
From October 18 through October 21, you and Shawn and
And then as you sit here now,
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you say
you were at that meeting, correct?
A.
Well, it says I was
Q.
Okay.
A.
anything about that board meeting, and I don't know why it
didn't come up.
Q.
Okay.
A.
I've been giving that a lot of thought over the past year
or so, and I just don't know.
but I don't particularly remember.
10
I don't remember
I don't.
MR. GINSBERG:
Could you go to page 3, please.
11
Page 4.
12
BY MR. GINSBERG:
13
Q.
14
extensively involved discussing Medtron, an incident involving
15
Medtron?
16
A.
I never heard of Medtron.
17
Q.
Take a look at the screen in front of you.
18
A.
I know what it says.
19
do that.
20
you do, Mr. Ginsberg, I promise.
21
know what Medtron is.
22
Q.
So the hospital board minutes are mistaken?
23
A.
They are wrong.
24
know anything about hospital law.
25
Q.
Here you go.
Do you remember this meeting?
I had no clue
You were
I don't know what Medtron is.
Those minutes are wrong.
I didn't
I know less about hospital law than

I didn't do that.
I don't
I was there for governmental relations.
Anybody that knows me knows that I don't
You were here, sir
you were at the hospital for the
01:56
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purpose of discussing and helping out with governmental
affairs, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You heard your friend Mr. Evans testify to that?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You heard them make clear that the only person who could
have done that was a representative of the District Attorney's
office?
A.
The reason I was hired was because
10
Q.
Sir, I'm not asking you to speculate about the reason you
11
were hired.
12
to provide assistance with governmental affairs, correct?
13
A.
Yes, yes.
14
Q.
My question is:
15
the reason the District Attorney's office was hired was because
16
it was the only entity that could provide that assistance?
17
A.
You heard Mr. Jones testify to that?
You heard that, correct?
You said the purpose, to your understanding, was
Did you hear Mr. Evans and Mr. Jones say
Yeah, I guess they said that.
18
MR. GINSBERG:
Could you go to the last page of the
19
October 21 meeting minutes.
Go back a few pages.
20
The last page
21
BY MR. GINSBERG:
22
Q.
Who signed these meeting minutes, Mr. Reed?
23
A.
Don Murray.
24
deceased.
25
deceased as well.
I'm sorry.
there we go.
He was the vice chair, but he is now
And Mr. Paul Cordes, he was the chairman.
He is
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If you scroll down a little bit under "Attachment,"
Q.
there's an attachment.
Super Pho resolution, correct?
A.
That's what it says.
Q.
So you expect the men and women of the jury to believe
that this resolution was so important to you that you had your
wife and one of your best friends working for days to get it
passed, to get it to the board in time, and then you just
forgot everything that happened after that?

No.
One resolution was passed, the Alliance
10
A.
Mr. Ginsberg, what I'm telling you is I don't have an
11
independent recollection of what happened at that meeting.
12
have been for the last year trying to figure out why that
13
resolution never got passed.
14
Q.
15
care at all that the resolution didn't get passed in
16
October 1996, did you?
17
A.
18
the board meeting.
19
Q.
20
when it didn't get discussed, passed, or considered at all in
21
October of 1996?
22
A.
23
like my answer, but I'm sorry.
24
Q.
25
passed by the St. Tammany Parish Hospital board concerning who
I just don't know.
But you weren't paying attention at the time.
I cared greatly.
I cared greatly.
You didn't
I just don't remember
You cared so greatly that it didn't raise any flags at all
1996 was 20 years ago.
Mr. Ginsberg, I know you don't

I just don't remember.
In addition to 1994, that wasn't the only resolution
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it was from the District Attorney's office that was
representing it, was it?
A.
referring to?
Q.
I think there was one in 2001.
Is that what you are
That's one of them.
MR. GINSBERG:
Can we pull up Exhibit 53.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Will you read the first couple sentences of paragraph 3.
Now, you were aware of this resolution, sir, correct?
10
A.
"The St. Tammany District Attorney's office is hereby"
11
Q.
Speak into the microphone, please, so they can
12
wouldn't mind slowing down just a little bit, please, so the
13
court reporter can take down what you are saying.
14
A.
I'm sorry?
15
Q.
If you wouldn't mind slowing down a little bit so the
16
court reporter can get what you're saying.
17
A.
18
right.
19
Me slow it down, Mr. Ginsberg?
Okay.
All right.
if you
All
"The St. Tammany Parish District Attorney's office is
20
hereby engaged as special counsel for the district to perform
21
such services as may be appropriate for an aggregate annual
22
retainer of $30,000 payable at the rate of $2,500 per month.
23
If the St. Tammany Parish District Attorney's office performs
24
more than 333 hours of legal services in any one year, the
25
district shall compensate it for such legal services in excess
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of 333 hours at a rate provided by the district."
Q.
retaining the services of the District Attorney's office?
A.
5
6
Thank you.
So in March of 2001 the hospital was again
Is this 2001?
MR. GINSBERG:
Exhibit 47.19
.18.
I apologize.
THE WITNESS:
by the board in '01.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Could you please pull up
Okay.
'01, yes.
Yeah, that was passed
10
Q.
11
time of the passage of this resolution, Exhibit 53?
12
A.
13
Who was the secretary and treasurer of the board at the
Paul Cordes.
MR. GINSBERG:
Could we please go to
how many
14
pages are in here, Andre?
Go to the last page, please.
15
you scroll up.
16
BY MR. GINSBERG:
17
Q.
Could you please read, sir, under the second motion.
18
A.
"A motion made by Mr. Core, seconded by Mr. Cordes,
19
unanimously enacted to approve the resolution with respect to
20
legal representation for the hospital."
21
Q.
Who seconded that motion?
22
A.
Help me out here.
23
that meeting.
24
Q.
25
that motion.
How would I know that?
Could
I wasn't at
How would I know that?
Read that sentence again, sir, and tell me who seconded
02:01
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A.
Oh, Mr. Cordes.
I'm sorry.
Q.
You were aware of the passage of this motion, correct?
A.
I'm sorry?
Q.
You were aware that this resolution was passed, correct?
A.
No, sir.
Mr. Ginsberg, we would not be in this courtroom with this
problem, because I would have called Mr. Cordes and whoever
else was there out in the hall, and we would have discussed
and I would have informed them of the agreement, and I would
If I had been at that board meeting,
10
have reminded Mr. Cordes about his interest in hiring me
11
personally as the lawyer for the hospital
12
hospital.
13
MR. GINSBERG:
as counsel for the
Could you please do a split screen.
14
We are going to come back to this, so don't let me forget this.
15
Pull up Exhibit 58 and split screen with Exhibit 47.54.
16
BY MR. GINSBERG:
17
Q.
18
the hospital, correct, at the hospital board meeting?
19
A.
I don't remember.
20
Q.
Who is the second name under "Also Present"?
21
A.
Okay.
22
Q.
If you go to the last page of that meeting's minutes
23
All right, Mr. Reed.
Yeah.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
25
Q.
Let's see.
Show me.
It says I was there.
MR. GINSBERG:
24
You were present in January 2008 at
Okay.
Go back to page 4, please, Andre.
Do you see there, sir, that the January 2008
that the
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2008 attorney list and fee structure was approved as presented?
Is that what it says, sir?
A.
I'm trying to read it, Mr. Ginsberg.
Okay.
I read it.
Q.
You were present at this meeting?
A.
I don't know.
Q.
Sure.
under "Also Present"?
A.
Yeah, I was there.
10
Q.
You're aware that the resolution or the document on the
11
left, Exhibit 58, was passed at that meeting because you were
12
present for it?
13
A.
Yeah, I was present.
14
Q.
Who does it say was being hired by the District Attorney's
15
office, one of the entities that was being hired to provide
16
legal services?
17
A.
It says "District Attorney."
18
Q.
What does it say under that?
19
A.
"Walter Reed, et al."
20
Q.
What does "et al." mean?
21
A.
"et al." means "and others."
22
Q.
You didn't say anything to the board when this resolution
23
was passed, correct?
24
A.
25
second.
Show me the attendees and I will tell you.
Could you read the name of the second individual
No, because
Mr. Ginsberg, let's just stop here for a
I was the District Attorney at all times.
When they
02:04
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said "Walter Reed, District Attorney," that's who I was.
they said "District Attorney's office," that was my office.
was not alarmed or
4
5
THE COURT:
Wait just a minute.
And
I
Let him ask the
questions.
What's your question?
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
My question was:
Thank you, Your Honor.
Did you, sir, raise any concerns with
10
the board when you were present at this board meeting where
11
this document was passed?
12
A.
I couldn't tell you.
13
Q.
But you just testified in 2001, if you had been there, you
14
would have sounded the alarms, correct?
15
A.
I would have, yes.
16
Q.
But in 2008, when you were there, you didn't do a thing?
17
A.
This says "District Attorney, Walter Reed."
18
Q.
"et al."
19
A.
It means "and others."
20
others because I had other DA business that I had to tend to.
21
Q.
What does "et al." mean?

From time to time I had to send
In 2009
22
MR. GINSBERG:
23
THE WITNESS:
24
MR. GINSBERG:
25
I do not remember.
Split screen with

That didn't alarm me.
59 and 47.56, please, Andre.
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
minutes from the December 2008 Board of Commissioners meeting?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Were you present at this meeting?
A.
I'm sorry?
Q.
Were you present at this meeting?
A.
Yes.
Q.
If you go to the last page, I believe, is this the meeting
10
So if you look first at 47.56, are these the meeting
when the 2009 attorneys list was passed?
11
MR. GINSBERG:
12
THE WITNESS:
Could you go up a page, please, Andre.

Yes.
2009, yes.
13
BY MR. GINSBERG:
14
Q.
15
could please look at Exhibit 59.
16
the second to last entity listed there.
17
A.
18
Reed," yes, indeed.
19
Q.
What does it say after "Walter Reed"?
20
A.
"et al."
21
Q.
You were the District Attorney's office, weren't you, sir?
22
A.
I'm sorry?
23
Q.
You just testified you were the District Attorney's
24
office.
25
A.
The attorney list or fee structure is Exhibit 59.

I believe it's page 2.
If you
It's
That was me, "St. Tammany Parish District Attorney, Walter
I was the District Attorney.
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Q.
You were the District Attorney's office.
A.
Yes.
does not exist in Louisiana law.
Q.
It all belongs to you?
A.
Sir?
Q.
It all belongs to you?
A.
No.
created in the Constitution an Office of the District Attorney.
I don't know why the framers of the Constitution did it that
10
There is no "Office of the District Attorney."
The way the Constitution is written, there was never
way, but they made
11
That
the District Attorney was the entity.
And, therefore, whenever I get sued, which has been a
12
lot, it's always "Walter Reed, District Attorney, in his
13
official capacity."
14
MR. GINSBERG:
Could you go back to Exhibit 53,
15
please, Andre, and do a split screen with Exhibit 56.
16
BY MR. GINSBERG:
17
Q.
18
back to the 2001 resolution.
Mr. Reed, while that's getting pulled up, I'm taking you
19
I asked you weren't you aware that this resolution
20
had been passed.
And you said, I believe, that you were not
21
aware of this resolution.
22
A.
No.
23
Q.
If you could look at Exhibit 56, please.
24
Ms. Ellish testifying that she received a call from Jean Young,
25
at your instruction, because the additional amount of money
Do you remember
02:08
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hadn't been flowing to the District Attorney's office?
A.
And I said, "Well, call them.
Q.
changed pursuant to this resolution, Exhibit 53.
A.
I don't know.
Q.
Because you hadn't started getting the extra money yet.
A.
I don't know, sir.
Q.
That, you don't know?
10
A.
I don't know, yeah.
11
don't remember it personally.
12
Q.
13
that when you couldn't attend meetings, you had ADAs attend the
14
meetings.
15
A.
I did from time to time.
16
Q.
You had Leo Hemelt attend approximately 17 times?
17
A.
I didn't count them, but he did go.
18
Q.
You had Lane Carson attend approximately 42 times?
19
A.
Well, some of those that you are counting, 42, would be
20
before I was involved with the hospital.
21
I became representing the hospital personally.
22
think
23
Q.
24
the hospital board meetings?
25
A.
The check was not right, and so Ms. Jean told me about it.
Straighten it out."
The check wasn't right because the dollar figure had
I'm guessing about some of this.
You testified earlier, sir, just a couple minutes ago,
I'm sure it was after

I don't
it was not nearly that many times.
In May of 1994, correct, that's when you started attending
Yes.
02:09
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Could you please pull up Exhibit 141.
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Do you remember seeing this chart, sir?
A.
All right.
Q.
I asked you if you remember seeing this chart previously
in this trial.
A.
the red is Lane Carson.
meetings.
I did.
We are looking at '94, I'm looking at 1994, and

It looks like in '94 he attended six
That's what the chart says.
10
Q.
So between 1994 and 2014 Lane Carson attended 42 hospital
11
board meetings, correct?
12
A.
13
have researched it and that's what it is, that's what it is.
14
Q.
15
attended one of these meetings, that was because you instructed
16
them to go, correct?
17
A.
Yes.
18
Q.
They didn't receive any extra pay for attending?
19
A.
No.
20
Q.
You didn't pay them
21
because they were going to these meetings in their capacities
22
as an assistant district attorney; isn't that correct?
23
A.
24
practices on the side.
25
the DA's office and complete the tasks they were assigned, and
That doesn't sound right, but if that's what it is, if you
And each of those times that Lane Carson or Leo Hemelt
No, not necessarily.
they didn't receive any extra pay
All of these guys had private
They were required to do their work at
02:11
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then they could practice law in the afternoons if they chose.
Q.
testify that he felt like he was going as an ADA because you,
his boss, told him to go?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
You heard Mr. Hemelt say the exact same thing?
A.
Yes.
DA or as a private lawyer.
Q.
But you never offered to pay them?
10
A.
No.
11
Q.
So then why would you force Leo Hemelt, pressure him to
12
sign a false affidavit?
13
A.
14
those meetings.
15
ask Leo if he would take my spot.
16
Q.
So after
17
A.
There's no force here.
18
Q.
So after all the media storm
19
right there, right?
20
A.
I did.
21
Q.
You heard his testimony?
22
A.
What in particular are you talking about?
23
Q.
The part where he explained that after the media storm,
24
you called him into your office and told him he needed to sign
25
a false affidavit saying you had offered to pay him, correct?
You heard Mr. Carson sit right where you're sitting and
It could have been either way, yes, as an assistant
Leo Hemelt loved that hospital stuff.

He loved to go.
He begged to go to
When I couldn't go, I would
you heard Mr. Hemelt sit
What part?
02:13
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A.
I heard him say that, but that's not what happened.
Q.
He is mistaken too, correct?
A.
He is mistaken.
sky falls.
office with alarming things like a secretary was mean to him or
whatnot.
an affidavit.
Q.
called him into your office and told him he had to sign a false
Leo is Chicken Little, and most days the
And Leo is kind of an alarmist and would come to my
And I absolutely never
I don't know anything about
So much so that he felt pressured to quit because you
10
affidavit, correct?
11
A.
12
remembered that.
13
Q.
14
work that was governmental work, correct?
15
A.
Yes.
16
Q.
Work that only the District Attorney and its office could
17
do, right?
18
A.
19
affairs, Mr. Ginsberg, Lane Carson could not pick up the phone
20
and call the governor.
Leo Hemelt could not pick up the phone
21
and call the governor.
None of these people could lobby the
22
legislature when important bills came up in the legislature
23
that affected the hospital.
24
of St. Tammany or Washington Parish to do things that the
25
hospital needed done.
No, that's absolutely not correct.
I would have
I have never done that in my life, no, sir.
You knew at the time that the work that was happening was
Most of it was stuff only I could do.
In governmental
Nobody else could get the sheriff
I was the only one that could do that.
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Attending the meetings was important, but that was
not my purpose.
used to assist the hospital in sometimes political problems or
governmental problems that existed.
Q.
You could do that because you were the District Attorney?
A.
I could.
Q.
That's why, if you pull up Exhibit 66, the hospital
recognized that the District Attorney, Walter Reed, had been
instrumental in the New Millennium program, correct?

Yeah.
I was a governmental affairs guy, and I was
That was my role.
That's exactly right.
10
A.
11
Attorney, that's who I am.
12
I'm not.
13
Q.
14
you were representing the hospital, did you, sir?
15
A.
Today, I do.
16
Q.
Because you knew you were representing as the District
17
Attorney?
18
A.
Yeah, Walter Reed, District
That's who I was anyway.
I'm glad
I was.
You didn't have any confusion about the capacity in which
Back then, no, I had no confusion about it.
In my personal capacity.
19
20
I'm proud of that.
MR. GINSBERG:
Mr. Ginsberg
If you could please pull up
Exhibit 87.
21
MR. SIMMONS:
22
THE COURT:
Your Honor, may the witness finish?
He has answered the question.
If he
23
wants to answer something else, he hasn't asked him something
24
else.
25
02:16
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
worked for McCranie Sistrunk?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You have seen this notation, this letter before you?
put this letter together, correct, after talking with
Mr. Michael Sistrunk?
A.
Repeat your question.
Q.
You put this letter together after you spoke with Michael
Exhibit 87, sir, let's talk about this letterhead.
You
You were of counsel?
You
What's your question?
10
Sistrunk?
11
A.
Yes, yes.
12
Q.
This letter used letterhead that said you were acting in
13
your personal capacity, correct?
14
A.
15
DA's office, and Ms. Jean kind of decided which letter to use.
16
Sometimes we ran out of personal, sometimes
17
the office, but she decided, depending on how she felt about
18
the situation, which stationery to use.
19
Q.
So any letterhead issue would be Jean Young's mistake?
20
A.
No, I don't see a mistake here.
21
Q.
You signed this letter?
22
A.
I did.
23
Q.
Because you were representing
24
A.
No, no, no.
25
my signature.
I had two letterheads.
Excuse me.
One said personal and one was the
we always had
What mistake?
I change my answer.
That's not
02:17
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WALTER REED
Okay.
CROSS
You wanted this letter to go out to McCranie
Q.
Sistrunk, right?
A.
I did have a conversation with him.
Q.
You had a conversation concerning this dinner at Gerald's
Steakhouse, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
That was you acting in your personal capacity, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You weren't representing the District Attorney's office
You had the conversation with Mr. Sistrunk?
10
when you were sending correspondence to your business partner,
11
correct?
12
A.
13
trying to make a point with the jury here, but it was not a big
14
deal what stationery was used.
15
calling Ms. Jean a liar or something.
16
stationery.
17
don't remember specifically this event.
18
Q.
You don't remember this event?
19
A.
I don't, but after seeing this, it has refreshed my
20
memory.
21
letter to Mike Sistrunk saying that, and she did.
22
the stationery, and she signed.
23
there.
24
Q.
25
a conversation with Mr. Sistrunk?
It was just not a big deal, Mr. Ginsberg.
I know you are
You're making it sound like I'm

She decided what
And that's not my signature.
I can tell you I
I'm thinking what happened is I told Jean to send a
It says "Walter."
She selected
That's her writing right
That's Jean Young's writing.
There was a conversation you had
that was after you had
02:18
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WALTER REED
A.
Yes.
2
3
CROSS
MR. GINSBERG:
If you could do a split screen with
Exhibit 57.
I think.
THE WITNESS:
Let me say I'm sure I had a
conversation.
I don't know if it was before or after.
after, I did.
Whether it was before . . .
MR. GINSBERG:
just pull up 57.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Surely
Exhibit 57, please, split screen.
That's fine.
Or
Thank you.
10
Q.
No personal letterhead here, sir, correct?
11
A.
No personal.
12
Q.
Office capacity.
13
A.
I did.
14
personal stationery is of no moment.
15
Q.
That's what you would like the jury to believe.
16
A.
That is what the truth is.
17
have pulled out some personal stationery, just not a big deal.
18
Q.
So blame it on Jean Young?
19
A.
No, Mr. Ginsberg, I'm not blaming it on anybody.
20
think it's improper either way.
21
It's a big deal to you, but I don't see it.
22
Q.
23
the hospital had retained the office of the District Attorney,
24
correct?
25
A.
That's DA's office stationery.

You signed this document?
But, Mr. Ginsberg, the fact that it wasn't on
Jean Young could very well
I don't see it.
I don't
I don't know.
Just so we are clear, you were aware that in June of 1994
I don't remember back in '94.
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You're aware that Paul Cordes was the chairman at the time
Q.
that June 1994 resolution was passed, correct?
A.
I think he was the chairman back then.
Q.
You're aware that in March of 2001, Paul Cordes seconded a
resolution retaining the District Attorney's office, correct?
A.
That's the meeting that I did not attend.
Q.
But you were aware of it because you had Jean Young call
about it, correct?
A.
No.
Ms. Jean called, I'm sure, at my instruction, and it
10
had something to do with the amount.
11
Q.
You're also aware
12
A.
The two weren't necessarily connected.
13
you're getting at here.
14
Q.
15
you and Harry and Shawn wanted to get passed was not passed
16
because you did not attend the meeting, correct?
17
A.
18
that 2001 meeting, we wouldn't be sitting here discussing this.
19
Q.
But you were at the 2008 meeting?
20
A.
I'm sorry?
21
Q.
You were at the 2008 meeting?
22
A.
Yeah.
23
Q.
The 2009 meeting where the resolution
24
A.
Walter Reed, District Attorney, was there, that's right.
25
I don't see what
You're aware that the October 1996 draft resolution that
I don't know why it wasn't passed, but if I had been at
Walter Reed, District Attorney, that's who I am.
Mr. Ginsberg, I know nothing about hospital law.
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was hired to be there to help with political and governmental
problems, not to do any hospital work.
Q.
expenditures.
appreciation and good will.
A.
Ladies are who get people elected more than anybody else.
Q.
Curtis?
Let's talk a little bit about some of your campaign

You sent flowers because it was an expression of
Do you remember saying that?
Ladies like flowers, Mr. Ginsberg.
Ladies like flowers.
One of those ladies that liked flowers was Christine
10
A.
Yes.
11
Q.
A victim of domestic violence?
12
A.
A victim of domestic violence who ultimately became a
13
member of my fundraising group called the Breakfast Club, and
14
she sold a table at the 2012 event, yes, Christine Curtis.
15
Q.
Well after you sent the flowers, though, correct?
16
A.
Yeah.
17
Q.
The note that you had on the flowers was
18
Because sending flowers
MR. GINSBERG:
If you could pull up 96.15.
19
BY MR. GINSBERG:
20
Q.
21
admirer from Camp J."
22
A.
Yes, yes.
23
Q.
You sent that to a victim of domestic violence?
24
A.
Yes.
25
her until later, and then she understood what it was.
The note you left was:
"To my rodeo girl from a secret
Correct?
Trying to be funny, but it didn't become funny to

I think
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initially she thought maybe somebody from the prison sent her
flowers.
Q.
fund?
A.
I absolutely did.
Q.
Two days after you attended the Angola rodeo with her?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Because your testimony is that the Angola rodeo was a
campaign event, so it was okay to send her flowers?
That was the misunderstanding that existed.
You said you paid for those flowers out of your campaign
10
A.
It can be
Mr. Ginsberg, things aren't always black and
11
white; sometimes they are gray.
12
went because I was the District Attorney of St. Tammany and
13
Washington Parishes, in an official capacity, because we needed
14
cooperation from Angola and it was the right thing to do.
15
Politically I could have gone to make new friends and improve
16
my chances of a statewide run maybe.
17
Q.
18
testimony?
19
A.
A political event?
20
Q.
It was political in nature, going to the Angola rodeo?
21
A.
No, no, no, it wasn't political in nature.
22
governmental thing.
23
inmates with this rodeo.
24
and because I wanted to let Warden Cain and Kenny Norris and
25
the people there know I supported what they were doing.
Things can be governmental.
You went because it was a political event.
That's your
It was a
This is where they try to rehabilitate

I went because I was asked to come
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Because they always supported us, and whenever I sent an
investigator or assistant district attorney to Angola to
interview prisoners, they bent over backwards to help us.
was just all part of that.
Q.
You brought your friend Christine Curtis with you?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You sent her flowers subsequently?
A.
I did.
Q.
Out of your campaign account?
10
A.
I did.
11
Q.
That was in part because you had taken her to an event
12
that was related to the holding of public office?
13
A.
This
It's a process of holding office.
She was nice enough to go with me, and yeah.
14
Mr. Ginsberg, I know you want the jury to believe
15
this was some kind of a romantic interlude.
16
Curtis made it clear that she had a boyfriend and she would
17
love to go to the rodeo, and that was it.
18
But Christine
When she was involved in some of the domestic stuff,
19
I knew she had a boyfriend.
I met him.
His name is Mark.
20
Q.
21
dinner
22
you said at IHOP.
23
A.
Well, we met at IHOP.
24
Q.
You had breakfast with her there, right?
25
A.
I don't know if she had breakfast or not.
On April 21, when you guys went to the rodeo, you had
or you had breakfast before you went, right?
I did.
I think
I had
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to wait for her.
Q.
restaurant in Baton Rouge; is that correct?
A.
Mr. Ginsberg, some of us get hungry in the afternoon.
On the way back after the Angola rodeo, you went to a
That's because it was 6:00 in the afternoon.
MR. GINSBERG:
THE COURT:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Your Honor, may I approach?
Yes.
Sir, I'm showing you what's been marked as Government
10
Exhibit 165.
11
and Ms. Curtis ate at on your way back from Angola, correct?
12
A.
13
restaurant, right near the interstate, right on the way home.
14
15
That's a photograph of the restaurant that you
That's it.
That's Juban's, my favorite Baton Rouge
MR. GINSBERG:
Your Honor, the government would move
to admit Exhibit 165 into evidence.
16
MR. SIMMONS:
17
THE COURT:
No objection.
Admitted.
18
BY MR. GINSBERG:
19
Q.
20
card, did you not?
21
A.
I did.
22
Q.
The IHOP breakfast before, you paid for that with your
23
personal credit card too?
24
A.
25
Sir, you paid for that meal with your personal credit
I did.
MR. GINSBERG:
May I approach, Your Honor?
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THE COURT:
Yes.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
credit card statement?
A.
I guess.
Q.
Go to page 2, the April 21 event.
A.
Paid for by my credit card.
for with a personal credit card.
Q.
I'm showing you 166.
Is that a copy of your personal
What is it about this you want to
Both of those meals were paid
So the meals were a personal expense, but the flowers,
10
those were a campaign related expense?
11
A.
12
card.
13
reimbursed myself had I chosen to do it.
14
money, and so I just never did reimburse myself.
15
breakfast, that's just not very much money either, and I just
16
didn't reimburse myself.
17
18
Mr. Ginsberg, in Juban's I did not have a campaign credit

I had to use my own personal card, and I could have
MR. GINSBERG:
It wasn't very much

The IHOP
Your Honor, I would move to admit
Government Exhibit 166 into evidence.
19
MR. SIMMONS:
No objection.
20
BY MR. GINSBERG:
21
Q.
22
Ms. Curtis, you had those listed on the campaign report as
23
promotional?
24
A.
25
You're aware, sir, that those flowers you sent to
Yeah.
MR. GINSBERG:
If you could pull up again 96.15.
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THE WITNESS:
I guess that word is as good as any.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
To describe sending anonymous flowers to a woman?
A.
To Ms. Curtis, yeah.
out of it.
Camp J, there is only one Camp J in the world that
I know of.
She and I had just gone there, and she was very
interested in it.
really, really into Camp J.
send that.
I thought she would get a chuckle
I was kind of amused by that.
She was
I was trying to be funny, and I
It didn't go over, but later it did.
Later it did.
10
Q.
Sending an anonymous note with some flowers is your
11
definition of promotional?
12
A.
13
word promotional.
14
Q.
So that's Mr. Garrity's fault?
15
A.
It's nobody's fault.
16
good word.
17
bad or good.
18
Q.
19
You were of counsel at McCranie Sistrunk.
20
a little bit.
21
A.
Yes, I was.
22
Q.
In that capacity you got half of whatever you brought in?
23
A.
Well, depending on what kind of case it was.
You send flowers
I think Mr. Garrity came up with the
I don't know.
You think that promotional isn't a

To me it's okay.
I don't think it's
Let's talk a little bit about your private legal practice.

We talked about that
24
MR. GINSBERG:
If you'd pull up Exhibit 82, please.
25
THE WITNESS:
If it were a personal injury case, yes,
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it was half.
If it was other kind of cases, it was something
else, but I didn't get many of those.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
correct?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
It's fair to say that was pretty lucrative for you?
A.
50 percent for personal injury cases and
what the contract says.
For contingency fee cases you got 50 percent; is that
I don't know
I haven't read it in many years.
But
10
if it had been something else that required a lot of work and
11
not much fee, I would have negotiated it.
12
We worked it all out with the fees.
13
Q.
It was fairly lucrative, wasn't it?
14
A.
I'm sorry?
15
Q.
It was fairly lucrative, wasn't it?
16
A.
It was.
17
Q.
A lot of the work you brought in for McCranie Sistrunk
18
came from your relationship with Pentecostal preachers?
19
A.
It did.
20
Q.
That relationship started with Reverend Jerry Cox, did it
21
not?
22
A.
23
preachers there in Bogalusa that I was close to.
24
Q.
You were pretty close with Reverend Cox, weren't you?
25
A.
He is a character.
It really was.
They were nice guys.
I was lucky.
Yeah, Brother Cox, and there was some more Pentecostal
Yeah, I liked him a lot.
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That wasn't my question, sir.
You were pretty close with
Q.
Reverend Cox, weren't you?
A.
didn't see him a whole lot, but I liked him.
the office to pray for me and
Q.
couple of suits before?
A.
very pleased about that.
You have to define close.
He and I were friends.
Sometimes he would give you presents?
He did.
10
He would come in
He gave you a
He said the suits were from the church, and I was
Mr. Ginsberg, whatever the suits cost, if you divide
11
that by the number of hours that I spent with the people at
12
that church and people's income taxes and the dogs barking and
13
the stuff, it wasn't much of a fee.
14
Q.
I think my question was:
15
A.
Yes, he did.
16
Q.
Through Brother Cox you met a number of other Pentecostal
17
preachers, correct?
18
A.
Say what?
19
Q.
You met a lot of other Pentecostal preachers, correct?
20
A.
I knew just about all of them in Washington Parish.
21
was my business, to know that.
22
Q.
Jeff Dykes?
23
A.
Brother Dykes, yes.
24
Q.
Tulsa, Oklahoma?
25
A.
Yes.
Did he give you two suits?
That
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Q.
You had a good recovery with him, didn't you?
A.
Yes.
Q.
David Smith from Bangor, Maine?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You had a favorable result in a legal case with him?
A.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
Q.
Scott Hall, another one you were close with?
A.
Brother Scott, he was the editor of the magazine Together.
Q.
George Guy?
10
A.
What's that?
11
Q.
George Guy?
12
A.
George Guy?
13
missionary.
14
Q.
15
through Brother Cox, correct?
16
A.
17
I know George Guy.
He travels all over.
George Guy is kind of a
Real nice guy.
Joel Holmes, he was another one that you got to know
Yes.
MR. GINSBERG:
18
BY MR. GINSBERG:
19
Q.
20
in; isn't that correct?
21
A.
I'm sorry?
22
Q.
Through those relationships you had a lot of business
23
brought in?
24
A.
No, not through Brother Holmes or
25
Q.
With the Pentecostal preachers?
Through that friendship you had a lot of business brought
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A.
Sorry?
Q.
With the Pentecostal preachers?
A.
With the Pentecostal preachers, yeah, I did.
Brother Cox, but I got a few from other places.
Q.
would fix tickets for him and his parishioners?
A.
No, that's not what
Q.
Unlike the former District Attorney; isn't that right?
A.
No, no, no.
Mostly
Brother Cox started supporting you because you said you
Listen to me.
There are rich people in this
10
world and there are poor people in this world.
11
should pay the full amount.
12
the full amount.
13
Rich people
Poor people can't afford to pay
Sometimes poor people, you have to choose between
14
medicine or food and paying a $200 traffic ticket.
When
15
Brother Cox would send people in there, usually what I would do
16
is knock it down to a $25 speeding ticket.
17
Q.
18
correct?
As the District Attorney, you got to make that decision,
19
MR. SIMMONS:
Your Honor, if he could finish his
21
THE WITNESS:
You're not letting me finish.
22
THE COURT:
23
THE WITNESS:
20
answer.
He is right.
Let him finish.
If they were poor people, I would
24
reduce it down to a seat belt, which was a nonmoving violation,
25
didn't hurt their driving record, and they could afford to pay
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it.
If there were other people that were more
affluent, I would a lot of times change it to an inspection
sticker.
insurance.
It's the same fine; it's just it doesn't go on their
Sometimes some of these people are so desperate
that $25 is a lot of money.
well, I fixed tickets.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
If you call that fixing a ticket,
10
Q.
In exchange he referred you some legal cases?
11
A.
I'm sorry?
12
Q.
In exchange he referred legal cases to you?
13
A.
Not over tickets.
14
come in and ask me to do things.
15
helped me politically.
16
Q.
17
up in Arkansas?
18
A.
I did meet a good many pastors through Brother Cox.
19
Q.
Through those pastors you got a lot of legal work?
20
A.
No.
21
and out of state cases were mostly just a referral to other
22
people.
23
Q.
24
finder's fee?
25
A.
He and I were friends, and he would

When I could, I did.
He
He also sent some legal cases, yes.
Including referring you to other pastors like Joel Holmes
Not a lot, no.
I can only practice law in Louisiana,
You had a recovery for that.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
You would get like a
Mostly I just did it as a service
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to them and find somebody to
because most of the cases
involved somebody's trailer being repossessed or something like
that.
find them a lawyer.
this lawyer here," and I would refer them to that person.
Q.
August of 2012, wasn't it, to get some more legal work?
A.
going.
I would go to Martindale Hubbell, and I'd look up and

I'd call them back say, "Why don't you try
That was your purpose of going up to Arkansas in early
No.
I had a dual purpose.
It's both.
I had a dual purpose for
I went up because I had
at that point I
10
hadn't made a decision, but I was going to form an exploratory
11
committee to run for attorney general of the state.
12
Q.
State of Arkansas?
13
A.
No, sir.
14
Louisiana.
15
Pentecostal preachers in Louisiana than any other place in the
16
country.
17
there.
18
legal business.
19
Louisiana law a dual purpose is allowed.
20
Q.
21
e mail to the Pentecostal preachers that you met up there,
22
trying to recruit them for legal work, didn't you?
23
A.
I did send a
24
Q.
That was through your e mail account
25
walterpreed@yahoo.com?
No, sir.
No, Mr. Ginsberg.
The State of
As Brother Holmes testified, there are more
There were probably 200 Louisiana Pentecostals up
I went to meet them and also for the purpose of perhaps

So it was a dual purpose.
As you know, under
Well, as soon as you got back, though, you drafted an
yes, I did.
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A.
I'm sorry?
Q.
That was through your e mail account
walterpreed@yahoo.com?
A.
nothing wrong with that.
Q.
preachers?
A.
political, future political events, or it could be for legal
Well, that was it back then.
I did.
And that can be a dual purpose.
business.
11
Q.
12
preachers, that
14
That could be for
That's why you said to the people in your e mail, the
MR. SIMMONS:
Your Honor, can we have a number for
the exhibit?
15
THE COURT:
16
MR. SIMMONS:
17
MR. GINSBERG:
18
THE COURT:
19
there's
It said you had the pleasure of getting to know many
10
13
Yeah, I sent out
I'm sorry.
What?
He is reading from it.

I'm asking him about his e mail.
He's cross examining him with one of his
own e mails.
20
MR. GINSBERG:
21
MS. WISE:
22
THE COURT:
23
MR. GINSBERG:
It's not admitted.

What is it?
It's his e mail, Your Honor.
24
admit it into evidence if you want.
25
didn't understand it.
I can
He didn't indicate that he
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THE WITNESS:
I don't need to see that.
I don't need
to see that.
MR. GINSBERG:
MR. SIMMONS:
THE COURT:
(The following proceedings were held at the bench.)
MR. SIMMONS:
MR. GINSBERG:
MS. WISE:
10
That's okay.
May we approach the bench?
Sure.
What's the exhibit number?

167.
This is an e mail that was hacked from his
account by Claire Ursin during the course of the investigation.
11
MR. GINSBERG:
Your Honor, he has authenticated the
12
e mail.
He said it was his.
13
he is confirming the contents of it.
14
THE COURT:
15
MR. SIMMONS:
He said he sent the e mail, and
He didn't even want to see it.

He doesn't want to see it.
16
starts reading from something.
17
exhibit.
Judge, he
He didn't even identify the
I didn't know what it was.
18
THE COURT:
He said it's his e mail.
19
MR. SIMMONS:
No, Your Honor.
20
counsel have been tendering an exhibit.
21
from it.
That was my objection.
22
THE COURT:
23
MR. SIMMONS:
24
it.
25
back into the game.
He said okay.
Usually all the

He started reading
I didn't know what it was.
That's fair.
At this point he said he doesn't need
So to try to get this in
they are trying to get Claire
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MR. GINSBERG:
Your Honor, he authenticated an
e mail.
He said he sent the e mail.
going to admit it into evidence.
MR. SIMMONS:
Then we object.
motion for a mistrial, Judge.
THE COURT:
MR. SIMMONS:
THE COURT:
MR. GINSBERG:
Okay.
He said he doesn't need it.
I deny the objection.

Thank you.
(End of bench conference.)
11
THE COURT:
12
MR. GINSBERG:
What's the question, Counsel?

My question for Mr. Reed was whether
he remembered in his e mail
14
THE WITNESS:
15
MR. GINSBERG:
16
We are going to make a
I deny it.
10
13
With no objection, I'm
I remember
referencing representing
Brother David Smith of Bangor, Maine.
17
THE WITNESS:
Yes, I did represent
18
BY MR. GINSBERG:
19
Q.
20
that you were successful in settling a case with
21
Brother Holland for $2.4 million?
22
A.
I did.
23
Q.
You also remember in that same e mail referencing a
24
$2.5 million case in Tulsa, Oklahoma, from Brother Jeff Dykes?
25
A.
You also remember from your e mail telling the preachers
I said that.
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At the end of that e mail you said:
"I have attached for
Q.
your inspection a letter from Brother Jerry Cox, who has
recommended me."
A.
Yeah.
Q.
You further said:
services to you and your church members for legal
representation for those injured from the negligence of
others."
A.
Do you remember that?
"By this letter I'm offering my
Correct?
Yeah.
I don't see anything wrong with that letter.
10
don't know what your point is, but I can practice law on the
11
side.
12
thing.
13
Q.
14
it, to get some legal work?
15
A.
16
was a dual purpose, for legal work and also to make new friends
17
with new Pentecostal preachers.
18
general one day.
19
Livingston said, make two new friends every day.
20
Q.
21
dinner at Gerald's Steakhouse, correct?
22
for straight out of your campaign.
23
A.
24
restaurant.
25
And if I get Pentecostal work, well, that's a good
So that was your purpose in going up to Arkansas, wasn't
Again, I'm going to repeat myself again for you.
There
I might run for attorney
I hadn't decided at that point.
Like Bob
That was a little bit different than what you did with the
Yeah.
That, you just paid
I paid that out of my campaign before I left the
MR. GINSBERG:
Pull up, please, 8.10, bottom check.
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Yes, that was the check I wrote before
THE WITNESS:
I left the restaurant.
charge was.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
stuck with the bill, and you asked him to reimburse you?
A.
thinking:
I gave it to whoever the person in
I asked how much it was and . . .
Shortly thereafter you called Mr. Sistrunk, said you got
Because, Mr. Ginsberg, before I got home, I started
Why should my campaign pay this?

I got a case from there.
I wasn't expecting that,
10
but a preacher came up to me and said, "Mr. Reed, I hear good
11
things about you.
12
blah, "and I would like you to handle the case."
13
I have a person in my church," blah, blah,
So I said okay, and I got their card.
I said, "I
14
will have somebody from the McCranie Sistrunk firm call you
15
Monday."
16
So I thought:
17
this.
18
Q.
Right.
19
A.
I did, and I
Well, the law firm ought to pay for
You had the law firm pay for that, right?
20
MR. GINSBERG:
21
THE WITNESS:

I did.
22
BY MR. GINSBERG:
23
Q.
24
letterhead, saying that you had one good case and that Quincy
25
was going to handle it, correct?
You did so by having this letter sent, again, on personal
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A.
Yes.
Q.
And you got reimbursed, didn't you?
A.
I did.
Q.
Exhibit 88, what's the date of this check?
A.
The date?
Help me out here, sir.
Okay.
6/30/2010.
Q.
So you paid with a check from your campaign, correct?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
Then you asked to get paid again from McCranie Sistrunk,
10
correct?
11
A.
I got paid twice.
12
Q.
So you got paid twice?
13
A.
But I paid it back to my campaign.
14
Q.
Ah, yes.
15
We are going to get to that.
When did you pay it back to your campaign, sir?
16
A.
17
just slipped my mind and time went on.
18
my attention, I paid it back.
19
Q.
Another mistake?
20
A.
Sir, I'm one of God's less perfect creatures, yeah.
21
make maybe more than my share of mistakes.
22
another mistake.
23
Q.
You repaid the check in
24
A.
Whatever you say it is.
25
It was much later.
MR. GINSBERG:
I meant to pay it back.
I didn't.
When it was called to
Yeah, there's
was it March 25, 2015?
WR 29, please.
It
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Sir, do you remember the date?
A.
3/5/15.
Q.
What's the date on that check, please?
A.
I'm sorry.
Q.
Do you remember when you and your campaign first received
a grand jury subpoena in this matter?
A.
I couldn't tell you.
Q.
Would you be surprised to know it was May of 2014?
10
A.
It might have been.
11
Q.
You didn't repay this check until after you were made
12
aware of this issue and there was a pending federal subpoena?
13
A.
14
rechecking your homework.
15
make sure.
16
3/25/15.
When the grand jury starts investigating you, you start

You go back and look at stuff and
You guys spent three years investigating me and,
17
yeah, I made some mistakes.
Looks like you guys found just
18
about every one of them.
19
attention, Mr. Ginsberg, I paid it back.
20
another mistake.
21
Q.
Everything we found was just a mistake on your part?
22
A.
It's my human frailty, sir.
23
goes over you with a fine tooth comb, the federal government
24
for three years, you are going to find some mistakes that you
25
have made.
But when it was called to my

And, yes, that was
And, you know, when somebody
I made some mistakes, folks.
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THE COURT:
Let's ask the questions, Counselor, so he
can answer them.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
account, correct?
A.
I did.
Q.
Through that account you met a woman by the name of
Melissa Frasier?
A.
I did.
10
Q.
You learned she lived in West Monroe?
11
A.
She does.
12
Q.
West Monroe, you knew that was outside your voting area,
13
right?
14
A.
Oh, yeah.
15
Q.
You subsequently met her in person, didn't you?
16
A.
I'm sorry.
17
Q.
You subsequently met her in person?
18
A.
I'm sorry.
19
Q.
You subsequently met her in person?
20
A.
I did.
21
Q.
You sent her flowers too?
22
A.
Yes.
23
Q.
From the campaign?
24
A.
Yes.
25
And like I said, I'm one of God's less perfect creatures.
You used the user name Mark 2200 on a social media
I kind of thought that.
Kind of thought that.
I did.
Twice.
And I admitted to the jury there's another mistake.
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There's another mistake, and I paid it back.
Q.
well?
A.
after I got a subpoena.
Q.
After you were caught, you paid that back too?
A.
After it became an issue, yeah.
said, "I better pay this back," and I did.
That doesn't forgive it.
You paid that back after you received the subpoena as
Yeah.
That's fine if you want to say it
that's good,
I don't know Mr. Ginsberg.
I just
It was put in my face.
I paid it back.
I shouldn't have sent the girl
10
flowers.
I shouldn't have paid for it with campaign funds.
11
Q.
12
never retained you in your personal capacity, correct?
13
A.
In 2014?
14
Q.
You didn't pay any of that money back, did you?
15
A.
What I learned in 2014 is that there was a
16
misunderstanding.
17
representing the hospital personally; and then 20 years passed,
18
and I realized that the board had a much different view of
19
that.
20
Q.
21
correct?
22
A.
No, because
23
Q.
And the March 2001 resolution?
24
A.
No.
25
Q.
And the 2008?
You were also made aware in 2014 that the hospital had
That's not what I learned.
I learned
I was thinking, with good cause, that I was
Because of the June 1994 resolution that was passed,
We have been through all that.
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A.
We have been through all that.
Q.
You were present at that, correct?
A.
I believed then and I believe now and I tell you that I
thought I was representing the hospital in a personal capacity.
I came to realize that I was wrong when all the news media
started and the FBI started investigating me.
Q.
You made another mistake with that?
A.
Oh, yeah.
Q.
You haven't paid any of that money back, have you?
10
A.
No.
11
to
This
I don't think I need to pay that money back.
you tell me.
12
I went
90 percent of the meetings?
But that's not what I did for the hospital.
As
13
Mr. Evans said, I saved
14
hospital because the sheriff was sending every inmate from the
15
jail to the emergency room.
16
emergency room because they get
17
THE COURT:
18
THE WITNESS:
19
Inmates love to go to the
He hasn't asked any questions, sir.

No, I'm trying to answer the question,
Your Honor.
20
21
he credited me with maybe saving the
THE COURT:
There's no question.
He hasn't asked one
question.
22
MR. GINSBERG:
23
BY MR. GINSBERG:
24
Q.
25
with him, correct?
Your friend Bubba Moseley, you had a business practice
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A.
I sure did, yeah.
Q.
You were making upwards of
it?
A.
we did pretty well.
good at all.
Q.
month from your investment in that gold business with
Mr. Moseley?
No.
was it $20,000 a month from
For a while there, gold was a real hot commodity, and

And then it kind of faded out and wasn't
So was there a period of time you were making $20,000 a
10
A.
It may have been 20, yeah.
But that didn't last, and I
11
ultimately sold out my part of the business to Bubba.
12
Q.
13
him, didn't you?
14
A.
When times were good, you paid for a birthday party for
That would be about the same time.
15
MR. GINSBERG:
Could you please pull up Exhibit 104,
16
page 2.
17
BY MR. GINSBERG:
18
Q.
This is a party his wife, Mrs. Moseley, arranged, correct?
19
A.
I think so, yeah.
20
Q.
She selected the guests?
21
A.
I'm sorry, what's your question?
22
Q.
She selected the guests?
23
A.
She did, yes.
24
Q.
She was the point of contact?
25
A.
Yeah.
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Q.
He was your business partner?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Mrs. Moseley didn't work in the campaign, did she?
A.
Mrs. Moseley?
Q.
Uh huh.
A.
No.
Q.
You paid for this out of your campaign with
8
9
Bubba did, though.
MR. GINSBERG:
Pull up Exhibit 8.25.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
10
Q.
You paid for this
11
A.
I was trying to answer your question.
12
Q.
13
A.
I was trying to answer your question.
14
Q.
I asked you if Mrs. Moseley had paid for the
15
volunteered for the campaign.
16
if you paid for this.
17
A.
18
that question?
19
Q.
20
you paid for this
21
A.
22
question.
23
Q.
24
25
out of your campaign, correct, sir?
You said no.
had
I'm asking you now
I know you don't like my answers, but can I please answer
You have answered the question, sir.
I'm asking you if
I don't think the jury thinks I got to answer the
Sir, I'm
THE COURT:
What's your answer?
I don't know what the jury thinks.
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THE WITNESS:
part of my campaign.
All right.
Bubba was.
No.
Tracy Moseley was not
Buck was.
Wait just a minute.
These people were major
campaign contributors as far as money and political activity.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
You heard Mr. Moseley testify
A.
I'm still not finished.
8
9
And because the Louisiana campaign laws allowed for

this expenditure
10
11
THE COURT:
Wait just a minute.
That goes far beyond
what he has asked the question on.
12
Ask your next question, Counsel.
13
BY MR. GINSBERG:
14
Q.
15
of the campaign, didn't you?
16
A.
I did.
17
Q.
You heard Mr. Moseley testify that he understood this was
18
a birthday party you were throwing for him?
19
A.
Yeah.
20
Q.
That his wife arranged?
21
A.
It was arranged by his wife, yeah.
22
it.
Because it was allowed by Louisiana law, and I didn't
23
Q.
Well, you didn't pay for it, did you?
24
paid for it.
25
A.
Mr. Reed, you paid for Bubba Moseley's birthday party out
I hope he thought that.
All I did was pay for
The campaign donors
The campaign paid for it because it was allowed by
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Louisiana law.
Q.
paid for it, didn't they?
A.
all your questions.
The people who contributed money for you to get reelected
Sir, would you let me answer, please?
I'm happy to answer
It was because Louisiana campaign rules allowed for
me to make that expenditure.
Q.
You are an expert in the campaign rules, are you?
A.
I'm not an expert in much of anything really.
10
Q.
You seem to think you know an awful lot about the campaign
11
rules.
12
MR. GINSBERG:
Can you please pull up Exhibit
13
THE WITNESS:
I know some things about campaign
14
I'm not an expert at anything that I know of.
15
MR. GINSBERG:
If you could please pull up Exhibit 6,
16
bottom of page 3.
That's 4.
17
BY MR. GINSBERG:
18
Q.
19
finance report, correct?
20
A.
I doubt I ever read it, but, yeah, I'm aware of it.
21
Q.
Another mistake?
22
A.
There's another one.
23
Q.
From the expert of campaign finance laws?
24
A.
You said I was an expert.
25
I wasn't an expert at anything.
You remember this notice at the bottom of every campaign
I never said that.
I told you
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I'm aware of this rule, if that's the form of your
1
2
question.
Q.
Ethics, did you?
A.
You never sought an advisory opinion from the Board of
No.
6
7
I didn't know I needed one.

THE COURT:
Let's get to a breaking point, and we
will take a break.
8
9
I'm aware of this provision, yes.
MR. GINSBERG:
If you want to break now, that will be
fine.
10
THE COURT:
11
(Recess.)
12
THE COURT:
Let's take a break, 15 minutes.
Be seated, please.
13
BY MR. GINSBERG:
14
Q.
15
the men and women of the jury.
16
finance rules, right?
17
A.
Yes.
18
Q.
You claim that they allow dual purpose expenditures; isn't
19
that correct?
20
A.
I do.
21
Q.
By saying that, what you're talking about is the dual
22
purpose is
23
but on the other hand you might have a personal purpose; is
24
that correct?
25
A.
All right, Mr. Reed.
I want to make something clear for

You keep talking about campaign
on one hand you have a campaign related purpose
It could be either.
And most things, it's blurred.
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Politics and people's lives, you just can't separate it.
business it's all interconnected.
Q.
when you say "dual purpose," you're talking about having a
campaign related reason for an expenditure as well as a
personal reason for an expenditure?
A.
It can be, depending on the facts and circumstances.
Q.
You've been using that term all day.
you
10
A.
The dual purpose rules basically say
11
Q.
Sir, I'm not asking for you what the dual purpose rules
12
are.
13
A.
14
candidate or a political office holder or an incumbent elected
15
official can spend campaign money for items that are both, may
16
be personal and may be
17
benefit to the candidate; but if it has a legitimate campaign
18
purpose also, that is allowed by the Louisiana campaign rules.
19
Q.
20
about something that benefits you personally but is also
21
somehow related to your campaign, correct?
22
A.
23
campaign.
24
Q.
A legitimate relationship?
25
A.
Yeah.
Right.
In
So I'm trying to understand, according to you
I'm trying to ask
trying to get the bottom of what that means to you.
I'm trying to understand your definition of dual purpose.

My definition of the dual purpose is that a political
and may adhere to the
or may be of
So, again, when you say "dual purpose," you're talking
Well, it's got to be a legitimate relationship to my
It has to be some
but it can be both, and many
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times it is both.
Q.
you need it to be that, don't you, sir?
you need to construct a dual purpose?
A.
the same thing I'm testifying to, Mr. Ginsberg.
you ask him about it.
gentleman sitting right there on the front row.
Q.
You keep referencing this dual purpose philosophy because
No.
As you sit here today,
I have an expert that's getting ready to testify to
Now, he is an expert.
So why don't
That's the
You're aware that the Louisiana Board of Ethics doesn't
10
recognize dual purpose, aren't you?
11
A.
12
can
13
Q.
14
expenditure that would be legitimate, right?
15
A.
No.
16
Q.
You go out to Thanksgiving dinner with your family.
17
bring one person.
18
A.
No.
19
Q.
That's okay for you, right?
20
A.
No.
21
Q.
You send flowers out of your campaign.
22
you?
23
A.
No.
24
Q.
Everything?
25
A.
I apologize and I admitted that was another mistake, that
I'm not aware of that at all.
That's not my belief.
You
Under your definition, sir, everything would be a campaign
You
All of a sudden it's dual purpose?
That's okay for
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sending flowers to the lady that lived in Monroe was not
proper.
Q.
expenditure out of the campaign; isn't that right?
A.
According to you, nothing would be an illegitimate
No, no, no.
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
income tax rules?
10
A.
Could we please pull up Exhibit 115.
Are you familiar, sir, with Publication 17 of the federal
I saw that.
11
MR. GINSBERG:
Go to the second page.
12
BY MR. GINSBERG:
13
Q.
Could you please read the highlighted language.
14
A.
It says:
15
candidate unless they are diverted to his or her personal use."
16
Q.
Personal use.
17
A.
Yeah.
18
Q.
Like a Thanksgiving party for your family?
19
A.
No.
20
Q.
Like a graduation party for your nephew?
21
"These contributions are not income to a
Is there an answer?
22
A.
No.
23
Q.
Like a birthday party for your business partner that you
24
are making $20,000 a month with?
25
A.
All I'm saying is it is allowed by Louisiana campaign
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rules.
That's all I'm saying.
Q.
You want it to be allowed.
A.
You can ask my expert.
need to ask him those questions.
Q.
justify the hundred plus
A.
Q.
out of your campaign for personal reasons; isn't that true?
He is next up on the stand.
You want it to be allowed.
You
You need it to be allowed to
No.
thousands of dollars' worth of expenditures you used
10
A.
Mr. Ginsberg, I've been in law enforcement my whole life.
11
If I had any clue that the federal government would consider
12
any of this illegal, I would never, never, never have done it.
13
Q.
14
gotten caught; isn't that right?
15
A.
16
government was going to come after me, investigate me for three
17
years when it
18
campaign finance law, as will be explained by my expert.
19
Q.
20
$14,300, correct?
21
A.
I did.
22
Q.
It was for a one minute video the whole jury has seen?
23
A.
No.
24
second one did not get completed.
25
reasonable.
You wouldn't have done it if you knew you would have
No.
I would not have done it if I had known the federal
in my opinion, this was allowed by Louisiana
Let's talk about your son Steven Reed.
2009, you paid him
As I explained earlier, there were two videos.
The
And I thought the price was
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Q.
The second video was for drunk driving, right?
A.
Yeah, the driving.
3
4
MR. GINSBERG:
to the campaign video.
5
6
Can we pull up the four checks related

I believe it's
that's not it.
Could you give me those numbers, please.

checks for the campaign video.
Can you put up one in each corner, one at a
time.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
10
Q.
8.05, bottom check, what does that say, sir?
11
A.
Washington Parish
12
Q.
Bottom check.
13
A.
Oh, I'm sorry.
14
15
Four
At the bottom?
MR. GINSBERG:
Andre, could you enlarge the bottom
check, please.
16
THE WITNESS:
Could you blow that up for me, please.
17
I can't see it.
18
BY MR. GINSBERG:
19
Q.
What does it say?
20
A.
"Juvenile drug film."
21
Q.
That's $5,000.
22
What about the second check?
MR. GINSBERG:
23
enlarge it, please.
24
BY MR. GINSBERG:
25
Q.
Bottom check.
8.06, can you pull it up.
Can you
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A.
It says "Juvenile drug video."
Q.
In April of 2009 the video was pretty much complete,
wasn't it?
A.
I don't recall, sir.
I don't know.
Can you pull up 8.07, please.
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
What does that say, sir?
A.
It says that's to Steven's company, "antidrug video."
Q.
"Antidrug video."
It's the third check for this.
10
up to $11,800, correct?
11
A.
I don't know.
12
Q.
$5,000 plus $4,800, that's $9,800, correct?
13
A.
I made a C minus in math.
14
word for it.
15
Q.
We're
If you say it, I will take your
It's $11,800.
16
The fourth check?
What does the memo line there say?
17
A.
It says "golf tournament."
18
Q.
No mention about a drive safe video anywhere, huh?
19
A.
I'm sorry?
20
Q.
No mention about a drive safe video in the memo line?
21
A.
Yeah.
22
Q.
Are you talking about golf driving?
23
A.
No, no, no, no.
24
did in 2009.
25
for me.
Yeah.
Steve
I think that was for a golf tournament I
That was a golf tournament that Steve produced
We had a band and we had lights and a stage.
And
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after the golf tournament, all the wives came and we had a
party.
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Pull up Exhibit 3, page 61, please.
You made four checks to your son, to Globop, in 2009.
MR. GINSBERG:
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
For one entry.
Page 61, please.
What does that say?
MR. GINSBERG:
Can you blow that up, please.
10
BY MR. GINSBERG:
11
Q.
What's the purpose there, sir?
12
A.
"Production of antidrug video."
13
Q.
Four checks, $14,300 for an antidrug video.
14
it says
15
A.
16
Q.
17
A.
Yes.
18
Q.
During this time period
19
so, your son was actually living in Hawaii, wasn't he?
20
A.
21
Hawaii.
22
That's what
Yes.
in the report that you signed and had filed?
I will explain if you would like.
during these seven months or
I don't know, Mr. Ginsberg.
MR. GINSBERG:
At one point he was in
If you could pull up Exhibit 20.
23
BY MR. GINSBERG:
24
Q.
25
justify that $14,300, correct?
This is the second invoice that Steven gave to you to
03:21
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A.
It looks like it.
Q.
What does that say under "Production"?
loud.
A.
program, public service announcement, video shoot, edit, and
compensation."
Q.
Where does it say anything about a drive safe?
A.
It doesn't.
Q.
Where does it say anything about golfing?
10
A.
Can I please have a chance to answer your questions?
11
You're going too fast for me.
12
It says:
Please read it out
"Production, juvenile drug abuse prevention
He
Okay?
Steve put both the unfinished video
I think you
13
saw a document that said $9,800.
Well, that was for the
14
antidrug video.
15
just
the other one, it was unfinished.
So I paid him for
16
that, and we never did finish that video.
And so Steve just
17
put it on one invoice, and it was paid.
18
Q.
Another mistake?
19
A.
I'm sorry?
20
Q.
Another mistake?
21
A.
It's another one.
22
the FBI looks at you for three years . . .
23
Q.
24
antidrug video, correct, these four checks?
25
A.
And then you saw one for 14 here.
So he
There's plenty more, I'm sure.
When
You reported this on your campaign finance report as the
I'm sorry?
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You reported this on your campaign finance report as the
Q.
antidrug video, correct?
A.
That's the way it was reported.
Q.
Totaling $14,300?
A.
Yes.
Q.
That Steven got?
A.
Yes.
Q.
For a one minute video?
A.
Yes
no, no, no, no, no, no.
It was not a one minute
10
video.
There was also a second drive
you saw the drive
11
by
12
for that as well.
13
one unfinished video.
14
Q.
15
production.
16
A.
And then the golf tournament.
17
Q.
That was something else?
18
A.
What's that?
19
Q.
That was something else?
20
A.
It says "golf tournament."
21
this stuff from back in 2009, but if it says "golf tournament."
22
I was having golf tournaments at that time.
23
Q.
24
Which one is it?
25
A.
what was it, the script, I think we called it.
It was
So there was one video and then there was
And the golf production.
Don't forget about the golf
My memory, I don't remember
So was it a mistake or was it the golf tournament video?
I'm sorry?
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Well, what was it?
Do you not remember it, or was it a
Q.
mistake?
A.
the wives would come after the golf was over.
had a band called Gerald Craddock.
it, set up the stage, did the lighting, did the sound and
handled the things and was very active in the golf tournament.
So I wrote him a check.
Q.
There was a golf tournament in 2009.
I had a band, and

And I think we
He came, and Steve produced
The screen in front of you has a touch component.
Please
10
touch on this invoice, Exhibit 20, where it says anything about
11
a golf production.
12
A.
It doesn't.
13
Q.
Please touch on here where it says a drive safe
14
A.
It doesn't.
15
Q.
Sir, I'm speaking.
16
A.
Oh.
17
Q.
Where on here does it say
18
A.
Whoa.
19
Q.
20
A.
It doesn't.
21
Q.
You would agree with me, sir, wouldn't you, that Jerry
22
Reed and Bart Pepperman
23
MR. GINSBERG:
In the very
drive safe video?
24
BY MR. GINSBERG:
25
Q.
Thank you, Andre.
Jerry Reed and Bart Pepperman were in charge of the
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alcohol for your fundraisers?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
They handled the day to day activities?
A.
Yeah.
helped Bart.
Q.
getting the donations.
A.
Yeah, they would get donations and
Q.
That was kind of below your 30,000 foot involvement.
Bart was really
Bart was in charge, and Jerry
That's the way it was.
They went out, and they were really responsible for

You heard them both testify, correct?
yes.
10
were the ones that handled getting the alcohol, right?
11
weren't counting bottles.
12
A.
My 30,000 feet?
13
Q.
Well, you were overseeing everything.
14
on.
You weren't paying attention to number of bottles.
15
delegated it to them to handle.
16
A.
Yeah.
17
Q.
They were responsible for getting alcohol for your
18
campaign events?
19
A.
20
were trying to say.
What do you mean by that?

You had a lot going
You
I did delegate it, yeah.
THE COURT:
Wait, wait, wait.
Just let him answer
the question.
23
Go ahead.
24
25
You
I'm not too good to do that, though, if that's what you
21
22
They
THE WITNESS:
above.
I didn't understand the 30,000 feet
I thought you were saying I was too good for that, and
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I'm not too good for that.
I'd have done that if I had the
time.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
alcohol for your campaign events, correct?
A.
he delegated probably Jerry and Mike Swords and some of the
others to do other things.
what.
Jerry Reed and Bart Pepperman were in charge of getting
Bart Pepperman was in charge of the whole thing.
I think
I'm not real sure about who did
10
Q.
You heard Mr. Pepperman testify that he understood that
11
every time he needed to go out and get donations for an event,
12
he tried to get enough alcohol for the entire event?
13
A.
That would be the goal.
14
Q.
That's why in 2012 he went to Acquistapace's for alcohol,
15
correct?
16
A.
He did.
17
Q.
And Glazer's?
18
A.
And Glazer's, yeah.
19
Q.
He also made purchases from Martin's?
20
A.
Yes.
21
Q.
He had beer donated from Champagne?
22
A.
Yes.
23
Martin's, you just raised that, I went to Martin's personally
24
the day before the event, and I bought some high end liquor
25
because I had decided
I bought the
in answer to your question about
I'd discussed with Steven the fact
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that I wanted to have a VIP bar on the side of the stage at the
Castine Center for elected officials.
that were in the Breakfast Club, that bought tables, I wanted
to reward them.
And mostly the people
So we set up a bar, or Steve did, a bar right
alongside the stage.
There was kind of a curtain in front of
it.
that I should have invited
the stage.
If you were invited
and I tried to invite everybody

you could stand on the side of
They had real good alcohol and good drinks set up.
10
There was a bartender or two bartenders.
11
America from a better vantage point.
12
They could watch
So that's where the Martin's stuff comes from.
It
13
was all high end stuff that went to that VIP bar on side of the
14
stage.
15
Q.
16
was the high end stuff?
17
A.
18
Grey Goose and just upscale stuff and some high end wine.
19
bought that personally.
20
Q.
Personally?
21
A.
Personally.
22
Q.
Out of your own pocket?
23
A.
No, no, no, no.
24
with a campaign check, and I bought the liquor for
25
everybody was crazy busy at that time.
Your testimony today is that the Martin's Wine Cellar wine
It wasn't just wine.
There was some wine.
It was
I
I mean I went to Martin's Wine Cellar

because
This was the day before
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the event.
liquor and wine, and I loaded it in my automobile.
in my automobile.
I went to Martin's and I bought some high end

I left it
The next day, the day of the concert, I drove to the
Castine Center early and unloaded it.
unload it.
the side of the stage.
Q.
Jack Daniel's, that was another source of donation
I can't remember who.
Somebody helped me
And that was the VIP bar on
The donations from Acquistapace's, the special
10
Mr. Pepperman got, correct?
11
A.
Yes.
12
Q.
You're aware that all that alcohol that was donated was
13
more than enough to keep the individuals who were attending the
14
event drinking all night?
15
A.
16
for everything, but later on they started donating less and
17
less.
18
Q.
19
Mr. Pepperman requested from Glazer's, did you not?
20
that
21
A.
Yes, I did.
22
Q.
You understand that Glazer's provided almost everything
23
that was asked for on that, correct?
24
A.
25
provide all the alcohol.
No.
No.
At one time Glazer would provide enough alcohol
You saw the exhibits, sir.
You saw exactly what

You saw
I saw that.
If you say so.
I don't remember that.
Glazer did not
They had at one time.
It was a
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different business environment, and they would provide just
about all of the alcohol for our functions.
Q.
going to get alcohol donated
A.
Q.
A.
I heard him say that.
Q.
You saw the invoice
sent to Glazer's during this trial, correct?
Again, you heard Mr. Pepperman testify that his goal when
Yeah, yeah.
was to get enough to cover the entire event, correct?
you saw the request letter that he
10
A.
Yes.
11
Q.
You saw the receipts from Glazer's showing they provided
12
almost everything, in fact, more than what Mr. Pepperman had
13
requested, correct?
14
A.
15
fact that there was 16 to 20 cases of alcohol in the mini
16
storage.
17
Q.
18
Mr. Pepperman was the one who was in charge of the alcohol, not
19
you.
20
A.
21
my garage for a long time before it got to the mini storage.
22
Q.
23
storage facility the day before the event, correct?
24
A.
25
liquor.
Yes.
And Mr. Pepperman made that estimation based on the
That's where that calculation came from, I think.
Now you're speculating.
You don't know, right, because
I know there were 20 cases or 18 or 16 cases of liquor in
You heard Mr. Pepperman testify that he went to the
Yes.
And he testified that he picked up 16 to 20 cases of
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Mr. Reed testified that that same amount was brought back
Q.
after the event, correct?
A.
Mr. Pepperman said it was not.
Q.
So Mr. Reed is mistaken?
A.
I don't know.
Q.
Someone
A.
I can tell you that I had a large amount of alcohol in my
garage, and I got tired of pulling my car in the garage and
worried that I was going to smash the whole thing.
10
Steven, I said, "Get that stuff out of my garage."
I don't know who is mistaken.
So I told
11
He took it to the mini storage, and that's where the
12
liquor came from that Bart and Jerry picked up the day before.
13
That's where the liquor came from.
14
liquor.
15
Q.
16
volume of alcohol had been in there for months prior to him
17
going to the storage facility in September.
18
testifying to that?
19
A.
I heard Mr. Pepperman say something very different.
20
Q.
So Mr. Reed is wrong?
21
A.
I don't know if he is mistaken or not.
22
I know.
23
was afraid I was going to smush.
24
door, it wouldn't close, and I would pull up a little bit more
25
and try to close it.
It was roughly half of the
You heard Mr. Reed testify that approximately that same
You remember him
He is mistaken too?
All I know is what
I had 18 to 20 cases of alcohol from my garage that I

When I came in, my garage
It was a mess.
I said, "Steven, get it
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out of here."
Q.
Christopher Cross event, correct?
A.
1,700?
Q.
In 2011, 1,700 people?
A.
I would say 2,500.
Q.
There were 2,500 drinks sold.
remember that testimony?
A.
Not really.
10
Q.
You're aware that according to Ben Gersh, from Glazer's,
11
just the amount that Glazer's alone had donated was enough to
12
make close to 9,000 drinks, correct?
13
A.
I guess that was
14
Q.
That didn't include eight kegs of beer?
15
A.
I remember him saying that each person would drink between
16
1.0 to 1.5 drinks per hour.
17
according to that, there was not enough alcohol.
18
Q.
19
returned some of that Angelo Lucchesi.
20
A.
No, that's not the way it happened.
21
Q.
You also returned four kegs of beer to Champagne after the
22
event.
23
A.
I don't really know.
24
Q.
Because you weren't the alcohol guy.
25
and Mr. Reed, right?
There were approximately 1,700 people that attended the
You saw that?
Do you
I don't remember the numbers.
The thing was five hours long, and
You had alcohol left over from that event because you
I didn't do that.
It was Mr. Pepperman
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A lot of it I gave away after the event, in the VIP room.
A.
I thought that was going to be my last campaign fundraiser
while being DA.
have had another one.
If I could run for attorney general, I would
But anyway, that would be my last function.
And I
was really not worried about making money.
function I was having to repay people and repay favors to
people.
good bit of it left over.
10
This was a campaign
The VIP liquor, when it was left over
there was a
At the end of the evening I started
giving it away to employees and people that were there.
11
If I had known that Jerry and Bart were going to take
12
stuff back to the mini storage, I would have told them to give
13
it away.
I didn't want that stuff.
14
it away.
Not long after that, I went and cleared the mini
15
storage out, gave Jerry Reed a couple cases, and Bart got a
16
couple cases, Mike Swords got some.
17
Q.
You were just giving it away?
18
A.
I had no use for it.
19
Q.
Just like you were giving away $29,400 to your son for
20
nothing.
21
A.
(No audible response.)
22
Q.
Let's talk about some other money that you funneled to
23
your son.
24
your campaign finance report, correct?
25
A.
And ultimately I did give
I gave it all away.
Cayman Sinclair, you didn't report that payment on
Show me that.
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Q.
Sure.
A.
Oh, okay.
Q.
You had the $5,000 funneled to Steven.
A.
I know what you're talking about.
to move $5,000 from the food to the liquor side.
kind of less satisfied with him.
me.
same, same old food.
Q.
By telling him to write a cashier's check?
10
A.
No, no, no, no, no.
11
Q.
He is mistaken also?
12
A.
He is very mistaken, absolutely
13
Q.
A cashier's check that didn't have any reflection about
14
where it came from?
15
A.
16
of check to write ever, ever, folks.
17
Q.
18
the truth about?
19
A.
I'm sorry?
20
Q.
That statement right there, you are emphasizing you are
21
telling the truth?
22
A.
23
in fact, I don't know how Steven got paid.
24
heard testimony that he did get paid, but I don't know how that
25
check
All right.
Cayman, I got
I thought he was overcharging
So I moved $5,000 from him to
Absolutely mistaken.
I told Cayman I wanted
and the food was the
I have never told anybody what kind
So that right there, you are emphasizing you are telling
I am telling the truth, that's right.
I never told him

I'm sure I have
the first time I heard about a cashier's check was in
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this courtroom.
Q.
have your name or your campaign fund on it, correct?
A.
A cashier's check that couldn't be followed.
It didn't
You will have to ask Cayman why he did that.
But I can tell you, folks, I never, ever told him to
get a campaign check.
Absolutely not.
Q.
second half to Cayman Sinclair, right?
whole amount and then wanted him to funnel $5,000 to Steven.
You didn't just take $5,000 off the bill when you paid the
You paid Cayman the
10
A.
I told him I wanted to move it, yes.
11
Q.
You didn't just pay him $12,500; you had him funnel $5,000
12
to Steven.
13
A.
14
that does not at all describe what was going on here.
15
Q.
16
campaign report; isn't that correct?
17
A.
18
with that number.
19
Q.
$29,400?
20
A.
Yeah.
21
Q.
But there's no mention of the $5,000 you paid to Steven
22
through Cayman Sinclair on the campaign report, correct?
23
A.
No.
24
Q.
Because it looks like you paid Cayman Sinclair $35,000,
25
which is what you would want to voters to think.
Correct?
The word, sir
I don't like that word funnel because
You reported paying $29,400 to Steven on your 2012
I did.
I think I explained it on direct, how we came up
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No, no, no.
Cayman should have sent Steve a 1099 just
A.
like Ed White sent Steve a 1099.
it, I think.
Q.
So Cayman also made a mistake.
A.
Well, when he got a cashier's check, I don't know if you
would call that a mistake.
not.
to do with it.
out that it was a campaign check.
And he'd have paid taxes on
I don't know if that's a mistake or
But his decision to get a campaign check, I had nothing

I knew nothing about it.
I just recently found
10
Q.
You said Cayman was supposed to send a 1099 to Steven.
11
Steven did nothing for Cayman, correct?
12
A.
He gave him
13
Q.
Steven Reed did no work for Cayman Sinclair at
14
The Lakehouse related to the America event; isn't that correct?
15
A.
Yes.
16
Q.
So the only reason that Cayman Sinclair was giving money
17
to Steven Reed was because you instructed him to do it.
18
A.
Oh, yeah, that would be true.
19
Q.
You didn't tell Ron Garrity about any of this, did you?
20
A.
I'm not sure he knew or not.
21
Mr. Garrity.
22
Q.
23
in the court?
24
A.
Yeah.
25
Q.
After the America event you and Steven went to Ron
he moved $5,000 to Steven.
You would have to ask
You heard his testimony, sir, correct?
You were sitting
I didn't hear that topic discussed.
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Garrity's office, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You wanted to come up with a number to pay Steven, so you
asked Ron Garrity whether it would be a taxable event.
A.
guidance from our CPA about what it ought to be.
son I'm dealing with.
also don't want to break the law.
ask him for his advice.
We went to Ron Garrity's office to try to get some

This is my
I want to be generous with him, but I

So I'm coming to my CPA to
10
Well, he tells me, "Oh, well, I got there late."
11
I don't think he was there at all.
12
He said, "Oh, I got there late.
13
I don't know how
many people were there."
14
So he didn't have any real advice to give us.
So
15
Steve and I left, and we sat down and came up with the formula
16
we did.
17
company.
18
would have cost, and that's what it was per drink, 29.
19
Q.
20
exorbitant markup, but the things you bought retail or you got
21
donated
22
A.
23
have, but I thought that that was a reasonable way to
24
compute
25
and I thought that was a reasonable
Steve owns a bar; he doesn't own a wholesale liquor

So we figured out how many drinks half of the liquor
So the alcohol you say you got from Steven you paid at an
Oh, I could have gotten it cheaper, of course I could
half of the liquor from Steve's came from his bar,

it makes sense.
Half
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the liquor, two drinks per person, $6 per drink; you do the
math, 2,500, that's the number you come up with.
Q.
Tugendhaft's closed in August 2012, correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
It closed suddenly?
A.
It closed as the result of the hotel being sold and
Steve's lease being
Q.
It happened suddenly?
A.
Yeah, I would say kind of suddenly.
10
Q.
When it did, you were the guarantor on that loan, correct?
11
A.
I was.
12
Q.
You were on the hook for $50,000?
13
A.
Yes.
14
Q.
Steven had $7,000 at the time in his bank account?
15
A.
I don't know.
16
Q.
So you were going to be on the hook for a large sum of
17
money; isn't that correct?
18
A.
Yes.
19
Q.
In September 2012 you had your answer.
20
A.
I told Steven Reed he better pay that money back; when he
21
made this money from this concert, he better pay that loan
22
back.
23
Q.
24
he followed your advice, right?
25
and deposited.
well, it was the closing of the hotel.
He made the money that you funneled to him.
And he did,
He lumped the checks together
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There's no funneling money.
I have explained how we came
A.
up with that money.
do.
Christopher Cross concert, drinks were $5 apiece.
we made it $6 a drink.
with that.
Q.
For alcohol he didn't provide.
A.
Oh, he provided half the alcohol.
Q.
You're saying that because it was
I thought that was reasonable.
If you computed by drink
I still
and the year before, for the

So this time
So I just didn't see anything wrong
you're basing that on
10
what you say existed in the storage locker
11
A.
12
Q.
13
A.
Yes.
14
Q.
That Jerry Reed testified that the amount hadn't changed
15
in months, correct?
16
A.
I'm sorry?
17
Q.
Jerry Reed testified the volume of liquor in that storage
18
facility hadn't changed in many months.
19
A.
Bart Pepperman said something very different than that.
20
Q.
You also heard Bart Pepperman say he didn't have a key to
21
the storage facility, didn't you?
22
A.
I had a key to the storage facility.
23
Q.
We are talking about Jerry Reed and Bart Pepperman, sir.
24
You are relying on what Bart Pepperman said.
25
Didn't Jerry Reed say the volume of alcohol in that storage
Yes.
that Jerry Reed had a key to?
I know how much
I'm asking you:
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facility had not changed in months?
A.
He was wrong.
Q.
Another mistake?
A.
Another mistake.
Q.
While we are on the topic of mistakes, you heard
Amy Bailey testify, didn't you, Steven Reed's accountant?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You heard her testify that on multiple occasions she asked
Steven Reed what this $29,400 was for, and he couldn't come up
10
with an answer.
11
A.
12
testimony.
13
Q.
14
correct?
15
A.
16
17
That doesn't have anything to do with me.
He first said it was for producing a small video for you,
I heard that.
MR. SIMMONS:
Objection.
Now we are comparing
testimony of witnesses that testified previously.
18
THE COURT:
He is right.
This is not an expert.
19
BY MR. GINSBERG:
20
Q.
21
Steven Reed couldn't come up with an answer?
You heard that testimony, right, that Amy Bailey testified
22
MR. SIMMONS:
23
MR. GINSBERG:
24
25
I heard that
Objection.
I'm asking him if he heard the
testimony.
THE COURT:
Just if he heard it.
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You don't need to comment on it.
1
2
THE WITNESS:
THE COURT:
I did hear it, yes.
Let's move on.
BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
Over the course of a number of hours, Steven Reed told a
reporter for nola.com that unequivocally that money was not for
providing alcohol, correct?
9
10
You saw the testimony and you saw the Facebook posts.
MR. SIMMONS:
THE COURT:
12
MR. GINSBERG:
14
I agree.
Sustained.
One minute, please, Your Honor.
Andre, could you please pull up Exhibit 42.

Please go to page 2.
15
MR. SIMMONS:
16
MR. GINSBERG:
17
All we are
doing is rehashing testimony and exhibits.
11
13
Same objection, Your Honor.
read the testimony.
Your Honor, the same objection.

Your Honor, I'm going to ask him to
I'm not asking him to rehash anything.
18
THE COURT:
Let me see counsel.
19
(The following proceedings were held at the bench.)
20
THE COURT:
We all know, from the standpoint of
21
testimony, the only people you can ask to comment on prior
22
testimony is an expert witness.
23
comment on another fact witness because he has to give an
24
opinion when he does that.
25
out of the realm of a fact witness.
One fact witness doesn't
When he gives an opinion, that's

So there's no way you can
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fashion a question without getting an opinion from him.
show testimony
If you
The defendant, Steven Reed, has a right not to
testify.
not like it, but that's what the law allows him to do.
just one of those things.
you can't put up testimony of Steven Reed or comments of Steven
Reed and ask him to comment on it.
MR. GINSBERG:
10
11
He has exercised that right not to testify.
THE COURT:
opinion."
12
You may
So it's
You can't ask him to comment, and
Okay.
What's he going to say?
"I have an
He is a fact witness.
MR. SIMMONS:
Your Honor, I would just add that this
13
is an exhibit that we didn't get to cross examine.
14
the issue of this document should not be admitted unless
15
Heather Nolan was available.
16
THE COURT:
17
MR. GINSBERG:
18
So we have a compound issue here.
How much longer do you have?

I don't think it will be that much
longer.
19
20
We raised
THE COURT:
Are you going to call the expert?
He
keeps saying that.
21
MR. SIMMONS:
22
that.
23
it?
Yes, Your Honor.
I wish my client wouldn't have said

Can I have a break and we will discuss
24
THE COURT:
Yes.
Yes.
Let's see where we go.
25
(End of bench conference.)
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BY MR. GINSBERG:
Q.
checks were deposited into your personal bank account?
A.
Were you aware, sir, that in 2006 $5,400 worth of campaign
I'm sorry?
5
6
MR. SIMMONS:
scope.
Your Honor, objection, beyond the
2006.
MR. GINSBERG:
THE COURT:
THE WITNESS:
Your Honor
It goes to credibility.
I'm sorry.
I'll allow it.
Repeat your question.
10
BY MR. GINSBERG:
11
Q.
12
out to the Walter Reed Campaign were deposited into your
13
personal bank account?
14
A.
No, sir.
15
Q.
Were you aware that $2,100 worth of campaign checks were
16
donated into your personal account in 2007?
17
A.
No.
18
Q.
Sir, do you know an individual by the name of Alexis
19
Repass?
20
A.
I'm sorry?
21
Q.
Do you know an individual by the name of Alexis Repass?
22
A.
I do.
23
Q.
Do you remember telling her that you were the DA and you
24
could do anything you want?
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A.
Were you aware that in 2006, $5,400 worth of checks made
No.
Sir, I have never spoken those words in my life.
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THE WITNESS:
THE COURT:
No further questions.
Never.
Any redirect?
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CERTIFICATE
I, Toni Doyle Tusa, CCR, FCRR, Official Court
Reporter for the United States District Court, Eastern District
of Louisiana, certify that the foregoing is a true and correct
transcript, to the best of my ability and understanding, from
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$9,800 [2] 75/12 77/13

BY MR. GINSBERG: [58] 4/7 14/5
15/16 17/10 18/13 18/18 22/19 24/11
25/20 27/6 28/8 28/15 29/15 29/23
31/7 31/24 32/12 33/15 35/1 38/24
41/8 43/18 46/7 46/17 47/1 47/19 48/1
49/2 51/17 53/8 57/17 59/3 59/21
60/25 62/2 64/22 65/16 66/8 67/4
67/12 68/16 69/12 72/6 72/11 74/8
74/17 74/23 75/5 76/3 76/6 76/9 76/22
79/23 81/2 94/18 95/3 96/25 97/9
MR. GINSBERG: [67] 14/3 15/15 17/8
18/10 18/16 22/18 24/9 25/17 27/5
28/4 28/12 29/12 29/22 31/6 31/21
31/23 32/10 33/13 34/25 38/18 41/1
41/6 43/17 46/5 46/13 46/24 47/16
47/24 48/23 51/16 55/16 55/19 55/22
56/2 56/7 56/10 56/25 57/8 57/11
57/14 58/24 59/19 60/24 64/21 65/14
66/7 68/11 68/14 69/7 72/5 72/10 74/2
74/13 74/21 75/4 76/2 76/5 76/8 76/21
79/22 94/22 95/11 95/15 96/8 96/16
97/6 97/25
MR. SIMMONS: [20] 38/20 46/15
47/18 52/18 55/12 55/15 56/3 56/6
56/14 56/18 56/22 57/3 57/6 94/15
94/21 95/8 95/14 96/11 96/20 97/4
MS. WISE: [2] 55/20 56/8
THE COURT: [38] 4/2 31/3 38/21 46/6
46/16 46/25 52/21 55/14 55/17 55/21
56/4 56/13 56/17 56/21 57/5 57/7
57/10 61/25 64/16 64/19 66/23 67/9
69/5 69/9 69/11 80/20 94/17 94/24
95/2 95/10 95/17 95/19 96/9 96/15
96/18 96/23 97/7 98/2
THE WITNESS: [22] 17/9 28/6 31/22
32/11 41/3 47/25 48/24 52/20 52/22
55/25 57/13 57/16 58/25 59/20 64/17
66/25 68/12 74/15 80/23 95/1 97/8
98/1
$
$11,800 [2] 75/10 75/15
$12,500 [1] 89/11
$14,300 [4] 73/20 76/13 76/25 78/4
$2,100 [1] 97/15
$2,500 [1] 27/22
$2.4 [1] 57/21
$2.4 million [1] 57/21
$2.5 [1] 57/24
$2.5 million [1] 57/24
$20,000 [3] 65/2 65/7 72/24
$200 [1] 52/14
$25 [2] 52/16 53/7
$29,400 [4] 87/19 89/15 89/19 94/9
$30,000 [1] 27/22
$32,000 [1] 11/13
$35,000 [1] 89/24
$4,800 [1] 75/12
$5 [1] 93/4
$5,000 [10] 74/21 75/12 88/3 88/5 88/7
89/7 89/9 89/11 89/21 90/12
$5,400 [2] 97/2 97/11
$50,000 [1] 92/12
$500 [4] 13/16 13/18 15/7 16/5
$6 [2] 92/1 93/5
$600 [1] 13/6
$7,000 [1] 92/14
$81 [1] 17/22
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'01 [2] 28/7 28/8
'94 [3] 35/7 35/8 41/25
'94 he [1] 35/8
.
.03 [1] 18/13
.18 [1] 28/6
1
1,700 [3] 86/2 86/4 86/5
1.0 [1] 86/16
1.5 [1] 86/16
10 [6] 8/10 8/14 10/20 11/9 11/11
15/18
100 [1] 1/4
104 [1] 65/15
1099 [3] 90/1 90/2 90/10
11 [1] 18/18
1100 [1] 1/24
115 [1] 72/6
134 [1] 51/17
135 [1] 5/2
14 [1] 77/14
140 [1] 5/2
1400 [1] 1/21
141 [1] 35/1
15 [4] 11/12 19/23 61/3 61/5
15 minutes [1] 69/10
15-CR-100 [1] 1/4
16 [4] 19/23 84/15 84/20 84/24
1600 [1] 1/17
165 [2] 46/10 46/15
166 [2] 47/3 47/18
167 [1] 56/8
17 [2] 34/16 72/8
18 [4] 20/8 23/22 84/20 85/22
1980s [1] 8/12
1990s [1] 8/12
1991 [1] 6/5
1994 [16] 16/25 17/4 18/12 18/22
20/16 20/20 21/20 21/24 22/10 26/24
34/23 35/7 35/10 41/22 42/2 63/20
1996 [9] 19/4 21/11 21/25 22/22 23/10
26/16 26/21 26/22 42/14
2
2,500 [3] 86/6 86/7 92/2
20 [9] 11/12 26/22 65/10 76/22 79/10
84/15 84/20 84/24 85/22
20 years [3] 23/17 23/19 63/17
200 [1] 54/16
2001 [8] 27/3 28/2 28/4 31/13 33/18
42/4 42/18 63/23
2006 [3] 97/2 97/6 97/11
2007 [1] 97/16
2008 [8] 29/17 29/25 30/1 31/16 32/3
42/19 42/21 63/25
2009 [10] 31/21 32/10 32/12 42/23
73/19 75/2 75/24 76/5 78/21 79/3
2010 [1] 60/6
2011 [1] 86/5
2012 [6] 43/14 54/7 81/14 89/15 92/3
92/19
2014 [5] 35/10 61/9 63/11 63/13 63/15
2015 [1] 60/23
2016 [2] 1/6 4/2
21 [7] 22/22 23/4 23/22 23/25 25/19
45/20 47/6
2200 [1] 62/4
25 [1] 60/23
25 years [1] 8/7
2602 [1] 1/24
275 [1] 2/1
29 [4] 1/6 4/2 60/25 91/18
3
3/25/15 [1] 61/5
3/5/15 [1] 61/3
30 years [3] 4/12 4/18 14/22
30,000 feet [2] 80/12 80/24
30,000-foot [1] 80/9
300,000 [1] 4/12
333 [2] 27/24 28/1
4
42 [4] 34/18 34/19 35/10 95/13
45 [1] 4/24
46 [1] 4/24
47 [1] 4/22
47.04 [1] 18/12
47.13 [1] 22/19
47.19 [1] 28/6
47.54 [1] 29/15
47.56 [2] 31/24 32/2
48 [1] 4/22
5
50 [1] 17/9
50 percent [2] 49/4 49/8
500 [2] 2/1 12/17
504 [1] 2/2
51 percent [1] 7/15
53 [4] 27/6 28/11 33/14 34/5
56 [2] 33/15 33/23
57 [3] 41/3 41/7 41/8
58 [2] 29/15 30/11
589-7778 [1] 2/2
59 [3] 31/24 32/14 32/15
6
6/30/2010 [1] 60/6
600 [1] 12/17
61 [2] 76/3 76/6
650 [1] 1/17
66 [1] 38/7
6:00 in [1] 46/4
7
70 [1] 23/19
70011-8288 [1] 1/22
70130 [2] 1/17 2/2
70163 [1] 1/25
7778 [1] 2/2
8
8.05 [1] 74/10
8.06 [1] 74/22
8.07 [1] 75/5
8.10 [1] 58/25
8.25 [1] 66/8
82 [2] 14/5 48/24
8288 [2] 1/21 1/22
87 [3] 38/20 39/2 59/20
88 [1] 60/4
9
9,000 [1] 86/12
9
90 percent [1] 64/11
96.05 [1] 11/22
96.15 [2] 43/18 47/25
A
ability [1] 98/9
about [77] 6/6 6/8 8/16 11/7 11/11
11/12 12/13 12/14 13/5 13/5 14/14
14/23 16/14 16/17 16/22 19/3 19/23
20/4 20/5 20/7 21/6 22/13 22/16 24/5
24/19 24/24 25/10 29/10 34/2 34/10
36/22 37/6 38/13 38/15 39/2 39/17
42/8 42/25 43/3 47/5 48/18 48/19 50/9
50/20 55/17 59/11 61/18 65/14 68/10
68/13 69/15 69/21 70/4 70/20 71/7
73/19 74/21 75/18 75/20 75/22 77/7
77/9 78/14 79/10 81/8 81/22 84/2 87/6
87/22 88/4 88/13 88/18 88/25 90/8
90/19 91/6 93/23
above [2] 80/25 98/10
above-entitled [1] 98/10
absolutely [7] 15/15 37/6 37/11 44/5
88/12 88/15 89/6
abuse [1] 77/4
according [4] 70/3 72/3 86/10 86/17
account [10] 45/9 54/24 55/2 56/10
62/5 62/7 92/14 97/3 97/13 97/16
accountant [1] 94/6
accounts [2] 6/12 6/19
accurate [8] 13/23 13/25 14/2 14/19
15/1 15/11 15/20 15/25
Acquistapace's [2] 81/14 83/8
acting [2] 39/12 40/7
action [1] 22/2
active [1] 79/7
activities [1] 80/3
activity [1] 67/4
actually [2] 6/9 76/19
ad [1] 23/11
ad nauseam [1] 23/11
ADA [5] 9/24 10/4 10/6 10/8 36/3
ADAs [2] 4/22 34/13
add [1] 96/12
addition [1] 26/24
additional [1] 33/25
address [1] 6/9
adhere [1] 70/16
admirer [1] 43/21
admit [4] 46/15 47/17 55/24 57/3
admitted [5] 46/17 55/21 62/24 71/25
96/14
adult [1] 5/3
advice [3] 91/9 91/14 92/24
advisory [1] 69/3
affairs [4] 25/2 25/12 37/19 38/2
affected [1] 37/23
affidavit [4] 36/12 36/25 37/7 37/10
affluent [1] 53/3
afford [2] 52/11 52/25
afraid [1] 85/23
after [31] 18/2 18/22 22/9 26/9 32/19
34/20 36/16 36/18 36/23 39/6 39/9
40/19 40/24 41/5 41/6 43/15 44/6 46/2
61/11 63/2 63/5 63/6 63/7 73/16 76/1
79/4 85/2 86/21 87/1 87/14 90/25
afternoon [4] 4/9 11/7 46/4 46/5
afternoons [1] 36/1
again [9] 28/2 28/24 47/25 58/15 58/15
59/23 60/9 70/19 84/3

aggregate [1] 27/21
ago [5] 8/14 23/17 23/19 26/22 34/12
agree [2] 79/21 95/11
agreement [1] 29/9
Ah [1] 60/14
ahead [2] 14/4 80/23
aided [1] 2/7
al [6] 30/19 30/20 30/21 31/18 31/18
32/20
alarm [1] 31/23
alarmed [1] 31/3
alarming [1] 37/5
alarmist [1] 37/4
alarms [1] 31/14
alcohol [25] 80/1 80/10 80/17 81/5
81/12 81/14 82/9 83/12 83/15 83/25
84/2 84/4 84/15 84/18 85/7 85/16
85/22 86/17 86/18 86/24 91/19 93/7
93/8 93/25 95/8
Alexis [2] 97/18 97/21
all [51] 8/4 13/23 14/18 15/11 19/5 20/8
22/17 26/15 26/19 26/20 27/17 27/17
29/17 30/25 33/4 33/6 35/4 35/23
36/18 45/4 49/12 50/20 51/13 56/19
63/24 64/1 64/5 65/6 67/1 67/21 68/5
69/14 70/2 70/8 71/11 71/17 72/25
73/1 76/1 82/13 83/12 83/14 83/25
84/2 85/21 87/16 88/2 89/14 91/11
95/9 95/20
Alliance [1] 26/2
allow [2] 69/18 97/8
allowable [2] 12/20 13/19
allowed [11] 54/19 67/8 67/22 67/25
68/6 70/18 72/25 73/2 73/5 73/5 73/17
allows [1] 96/5
almost [2] 83/22 84/12
alone [1] 86/11
along [2] 11/12 22/7
alongside [1] 82/6
also [24] 5/15 6/16 6/21 7/4 9/21 10/19
29/20 30/8 42/11 53/15 54/17 57/19
57/23 58/16 63/11 70/18 70/20 78/10
81/19 86/21 88/11 90/4 91/8 93/20
always [4] 33/12 39/16 44/10 45/1
am [3] 38/11 42/22 88/22
AMERICA [5] 1/4 13/16 82/11 90/14
90/25
amount [9] 33/25 42/10 52/11 52/12
85/1 85/7 86/11 89/9 93/14
amused [1] 48/7
Amy [2] 94/6 94/20
Amy Bailey [1] 94/6
Andre [8] 28/14 29/23 31/24 32/11
33/15 74/14 79/23 95/13
Angelo [1] 86/19
Angola [7] 44/6 44/8 44/14 44/20 45/2
46/2 46/11
Annadele's [1] 13/6
announcement [1] 77/5
annual [1] 27/21
anonymous [2] 48/3 48/10
another [21] 9/4 10/6 51/7 51/14 60/19
60/22 61/20 62/24 63/1 64/7 68/21
68/22 71/25 77/18 77/20 77/21 83/9
87/4 94/3 94/4 95/23
answer [23] 12/25 21/19 22/12 26/23
38/23 39/24 52/20 62/2 64/18 66/11
66/13 66/17 66/21 66/25 68/4 68/4
72/21 77/10 80/21 81/22 92/19 94/10
94/21
answered [2] 38/22 66/19
answering [1] 22/14
answers [1] 66/17
antidrug [7] 75/8 75/9 76/12 76/13
77/14 77/24 78/2
any [21] 14/11 14/23 26/19 27/24 31/9
35/18 35/20 38/13 39/19 43/2 48/1
54/15 63/14 64/9 64/17 73/11 73/12
88/13 90/19 91/14 98/3
anybody [6] 9/9 14/20 24/23 41/19 43/7
88/15
anything [16] 19/11 24/5 24/24 30/22
37/6 58/9 68/9 68/14 68/25 77/7 77/9
79/10 93/5 94/11 95/17 97/24
anyway [2] 38/11 87/5
anywhere [1] 75/18
apiece [1] 93/4
apologize [2] 28/6 71/25
Appearances [1] 1/13
applied [1] 9/15
applies [1] 9/13
apply [1] 9/9
appreciation [1] 43/5
approach [3] 46/6 46/25 56/4
appropriate [1] 27/21
approve [1] 28/19
approved [1] 30/1
approximately [6] 4/12 4/22 34/16
34/18 85/15 86/2
April [5] 1/6 4/2 45/20 47/6 75/2
April 21 [2] 45/20 47/6
are [52] 4/4 4/10 8/23 11/19 15/1 15/2
15/2 15/18 18/13 23/11 24/18 24/22
24/23 27/3 27/13 28/14 29/14 32/2
34/19 35/7 36/22 40/12 41/22 43/7
44/11 52/9 52/10 53/6 54/14 56/24
57/4 60/14 61/24 68/8 68/8 70/12
70/15 72/8 72/14 72/15 72/24 75/22
88/17 88/17 88/20 88/20 93/23 93/24
94/5 94/16 95/9 96/19
area [1] 62/12
aren't [3] 21/6 44/10 71/10
Arkansas [4] 53/17 54/6 54/12 58/13
around [1] 6/15
arranged [3] 65/18 67/20 67/21
arrangement [1] 17/17
as [46] 4/6 4/25 7/20 7/21 13/21 16/4
16/24 20/12 23/11 23/20 23/20 23/25
25/25 27/20 27/21 29/11 29/11 30/1
35/22 36/3 36/7 36/8 38/16 46/9 47/22
48/1 48/1 52/17 53/25 54/14 54/18
54/20 54/20 63/2 64/12 67/4 67/4 70/5
70/5 71/3 73/18 73/23 77/23 78/1
78/12 92/6
ask [16] 31/4 36/15 53/14 62/1 67/12
70/8 71/7 73/3 73/4 89/4 90/20 91/9
95/16 95/21 96/6 96/8
asked [16] 14/23 16/17 33/19 35/5
38/23 44/23 59/3 59/6 60/9 64/17
64/20 66/14 67/11 83/23 91/4 94/8
asking [10] 11/24 22/13 25/10 55/17
66/15 66/19 70/11 93/24 94/23 95/17
assigned [1] 35/25
assist [1] 38/3
assistance [2] 25/12 25/16
assistant [3] 35/22 36/7 45/2
at [84] 5/3 6/16 6/16 6/25 13/6 13/16
14/12 15/11 17/22 18/7 23/1 23/8
23/14 24/1 24/17 24/25 26/11 26/14
A
at... [66] 26/15 26/19 26/20 27/22 28/1
28/10 28/22 29/5 29/17 29/18 30/5
30/11 30/25 31/10 32/2 32/5 32/7
32/15 33/23 33/25 35/7 35/7 35/24
37/13 40/4 42/1 42/9 42/13 42/17
42/19 42/21 43/14 45/22 45/23 46/11
48/19 50/11 54/9 56/6 56/23 58/1
58/18 58/21 61/14 64/2 65/6 68/14
68/18 68/25 71/11 74/7 74/13 76/20
77/22 78/22 82/1 82/25 83/15 83/25
87/9 89/14 90/13 91/11 91/19 92/14
95/19
ate [1] 46/11
attached [1] 58/1
attachment [2] 26/1 26/2
attend [7] 13/9 34/13 34/13 34/16
34/18 42/6 42/16
attendance [1] 23/8
attended [7] 21/5 23/14 35/8 35/10
35/15 44/6 86/2
attendees [1] 30/6
attending [7] 16/25 18/23 20/25 34/23
35/18 38/1 83/13
attention [4] 26/14 60/18 61/19 80/14
attorney [28] 30/1 30/17 30/25 31/1
31/17 32/14 32/17 32/25 33/2 33/8
33/10 33/12 35/22 37/16 38/5 38/8
38/11 38/17 41/23 42/22 42/24 44/12
45/2 52/8 52/17 54/11 58/17 87/3
Attorney's [28] 1/14 17/6 17/18 17/19
17/22 17/25 18/24 19/10 19/14 20/17
20/21 21/17 21/22 25/7 25/15 27/1
27/10 27/19 27/23 28/3 30/14 31/2
32/21 32/23 33/1 34/1 40/9 42/5
attorneys [1] 32/10
audible [1] 87/21
August [2] 54/7 92/3
August 2012 [1] 92/3
authenticated [2] 56/11 57/1
automobile [2] 83/2 83/3
available [1] 96/15
aware [28] 21/6 23/12 23/14 27/8 29/2
29/4 30/10 33/19 33/21 41/22 42/1
42/4 42/7 42/11 42/14 47/21 61/12
63/11 68/20 69/1 69/2 71/9 71/11
83/12 86/10 97/2 97/11 97/15
away [8] 14/21 87/1 87/10 87/13 87/14
87/16 87/17 87/19
awful [1] 68/10
B
B-275 [1] 2/1
baby [1] 8/18
back [39] 4/13 8/3 10/15 14/16 14/24
17/7 25/19 29/14 29/23 33/14 33/18
38/15 41/25 42/3 46/2 46/11 54/4
54/20 55/4 56/25 60/13 60/15 60/16
60/18 61/14 61/19 63/1 63/2 63/6 63/8
63/8 63/14 64/9 64/10 78/21 85/1
87/12 92/20 92/22
backwards [1] 45/3
bad [1] 48/17
Bailey [2] 94/6 94/20
band [3] 75/25 79/3 79/5
Bangor [2] 51/3 57/16
bank [6] 6/12 6/14 6/17 92/14 97/3
97/13
bar [7] 82/1 82/5 82/5 82/13 83/6 91/16
91/24
barking [1] 50/12
Bart [14] 79/22 79/25 80/4 80/4 80/5
81/4 81/6 85/12 87/11 87/15 93/19
93/20 93/23 93/24
bartender [1] 82/10
bartenders [1] 82/10
base [2] 7/23 7/23
based [1] 84/14
basically [1] 70/10
basing [1] 93/9
Baton [2] 46/3 46/12
Baton Rouge [2] 46/3 46/12
be [55] 4/3 6/18 15/20 16/15 16/19
17/21 21/3 22/3 23/1 23/18 23/20
27/21 29/6 34/19 39/19 42/18 43/1
43/24 44/10 44/11 48/8 55/8 55/8 55/9
61/9 65/14 69/8 69/12 69/25 70/7
70/16 70/16 70/16 70/22 70/25 70/25
71/3 71/13 71/14 72/3 73/2 73/5 73/5
73/18 81/13 87/2 87/5 89/2 90/18 91/4
91/6 91/7 92/16 96/14 96/17
became [3] 34/21 43/12 63/7
because [62] 12/19 12/20 13/1 13/11
19/8 19/17 20/12 20/16 21/16 23/14
25/9 25/15 29/7 30/11 30/24 31/20
33/25 34/4 34/7 35/15 35/21 36/3 37/8
38/5 38/16 39/23 42/7 42/16 43/4
43/16 44/8 44/12 44/13 44/17 44/23
44/24 45/1 45/11 46/4 52/5 54/1 54/9
59/7 63/20 63/22 64/14 64/16 67/8
67/22 67/25 68/6 71/2 81/25 82/24
84/17 86/18 86/24 89/13 89/24 90/17
93/9 95/23
become [1] 43/24
been [27] 4/6 7/1 8/6 8/7 12/13 20/25
21/16 24/8 26/12 29/5 31/13 33/11
33/20 34/1 36/7 38/8 42/17 46/9 49/10
56/20 61/10 63/24 64/1 65/10 70/8
73/10 85/16
beer [3] 81/21 86/14 86/21
before [20] 1/10 13/13 13/15 16/9
34/20 39/5 41/5 41/6 45/21 46/22 50/7
58/23 59/1 59/7 81/24 82/25 84/21
84/23 85/12 93/3
began [1] 16/24
begged [1] 36/13
Beginning [1] 19/23
being [6] 30/14 30/15 54/2 87/3 92/6
92/7
belief [1] 71/11
believe [8] 26/5 32/9 32/15 33/20 41/15
45/14 64/3 74/4
believed [1] 64/3
belongs [2] 33/4 33/6
below [1] 80/9
belt [1] 52/24
Ben [1] 86/10
bench [5] 56/4 56/6 57/10 95/19 96/25
benefit [1] 70/17
benefits [3] 9/21 9/24 70/20
bent [1] 45/3
Bernard [1] 10/8
best [3] 13/3 26/7 98/9
better [4] 63/8 82/11 92/20 92/21
between [4] 21/24 35/10 52/13 86/15
beyond [2] 67/10 97/5
big [9] 5/24 13/12 19/3 19/4 19/20
40/12 40/13 41/17 41/21
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65/12 67/14 67/18 72/23
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43/3 48/18 48/20 58/20 85/24 87/9
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20/13 20/25 21/4 21/5 21/8 21/20 22/2
23/2 23/4 23/10 23/12 23/24 24/5
24/22 26/8 26/18 26/25 28/8 28/10
29/5 29/18 30/22 31/10 31/10 32/3
34/24 35/11 63/18 69/3 71/9
boards [3] 21/1 21/2 21/6
Bob [1] 58/18
Bogalusa [1] 49/23
boss [1] 36/4
both [7] 47/7 54/9 70/15 70/25 71/1
77/12 80/7
bottles [2] 80/11 80/14
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74/10 74/12 74/13 74/14 74/25
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82/24 83/1 91/20
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box [2] 1/21 14/15
boy [1] 11/2
boyfriend [2] 45/16 45/19
Bradley [2] 11/16 16/10
Bradley's [2] 13/2 13/12
Branch [3] 10/10 10/12 10/13
break [5] 69/7 69/8 69/10 91/8 96/22
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46/22 47/15 82/3
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51/15 51/24 52/4 52/5 52/15 53/18
54/14 57/16 57/21 57/24 58/2
Brother Cox [7] 49/22 50/16 51/15 52/4
52/5 52/15 53/18
Brother David [1] 57/16
Brother Holland [1] 57/21
Brother Holmes [1] 54/14
Brother Jerry [1] 58/2
brother-in-law [1] 8/2
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51/23 85/1
Bubba [7] 8/22 8/23 64/24 65/11 66/6
67/2 67/14
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bunch [1] 4/25
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51/19 51/22 54/18 55/10 64/24 65/8
65/11 66/1 70/2 72/23 84/1
busy [1] 82/25
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19/15 23/11 23/20 24/4 25/23 26/14
26/23 31/13 31/16 33/10 34/17 35/12
36/9 37/1 38/1 39/17 40/13 40/19
B
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50/4 52/4 54/10 58/10 59/10 60/13
61/18 64/12 65/10 66/17 68/20 69/23
70/17 70/20 70/25 78/21 83/16 87/5
88/24 89/5 89/21 90/7 91/7 91/20
91/23 96/5
C
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Cain [1] 44/24
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53/7 54/4 59/14 90/6 96/19
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59/5 60/17 61/18 78/11 79/5
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59/10 64/5 76/1 79/5 84/16 85/12
85/13 85/23 88/14 89/17 91/15 91/24
93/1
Camp [4] 43/21 48/5 48/5 48/8
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27/11 27/13 27/16 40/16 44/10 44/11
53/20 55/8 55/13 55/23 58/10 62/2
66/17 68/12 70/7 70/15 70/25 71/12
73/3 74/3 74/7 74/22 74/22 75/5 76/9
77/10 85/7 89/5 95/21 95/25 96/22
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74/17 83/6 96/6 96/7
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40/7 41/12 44/13 48/22 63/12 64/4
Capital [2] 6/14 6/16
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47/12 47/12 59/13
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26/19
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36/2 37/19
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59/9 59/12 59/24
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90/5
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89/8 89/22 89/24 90/1 90/4 90/10
90/11 90/13 90/16
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cell [2] 6/22 7/2
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CERTIFICATE [1] 98/5

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23/6
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Connie [2] 8/8 8/9
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60/7 60/23 61/4 61/11 74/10 74/12
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74/15 74/21 74/25 75/9 75/16 79/8
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82/24 88/9 88/13 88/16 88/25 88/25
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89/2 89/6 90/5 90/7 90/9
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92/24 97/3 97/11 97/15
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Chicken [1] 37/3
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40/25 41/5
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claim [1] 69/18
22/9 22/10 22/15 22/17 22/22 23/6
Claire [10] 10/20 11/6 11/7 11/8 11/8
25/24 28/12 28/18 29/1 29/7 29/10
11/19 13/13 16/9 56/10 56/24
42/1 42/4
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13/11
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25/6 41/22 45/16 69/14
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16/19 18/17 23/1 24/10 25/6 25/16
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50/3 51/7 85/24 85/25 86/12
30/7 32/11 32/15 33/14 33/23 35/1
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36/1 36/7 37/16 37/18 37/19 37/20
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37/21 37/23 37/25 38/5 38/6 38/19
Club [2] 43/13 82/3
41/2 41/16 43/18 44/15 47/12 47/25
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52/19 52/25 53/14 55/8 55/9 65/15
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68/15 69/25 72/6 72/13 74/5 74/14
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74/16 76/22 82/8 82/10 87/3 91/22
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44/23 50/4 53/14 73/16 79/4 91/3 92/2 couldn't [7] 31/12 34/13 36/14 61/8
94/9 94/21
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56/20 57/11 67/12 95/18
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96/8
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company [2] 75/8 91/17
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98/6 98/7 98/14
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51/15 52/4 52/5 52/15 53/18 58/2
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CPA [2] 91/6 91/8
89/2 89/7 89/11 90/19 90/24 91/14

donations [5] 7/12 80/7 80/8 81/11 83/8
93/5 93/7 93/20 93/21 93/25 94/6
done [8] 22/18 25/7 37/12 37/25 73/12
CR [1] 1/4
96/13
73/13 73/15 81/1
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85/19 93/19
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direct [1] 89/17
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discuss [1] 96/22
52/16 52/24 91/15
credibility [1] 97/8
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90/24
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47/11
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42/14
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cross-examine [1] 96/13
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27/23 27/25 28/1 28/3 30/14 30/17
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Currence [1] 8/2
30/25 31/1 31/2 31/17 32/17 32/21
92/1 93/4
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32/23 32/25 33/1 33/2 33/8 33/10
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33/12 34/1 35/22 37/16 38/5 38/8
79/13 79/19
47/22 48/4
38/10 38/16 40/9 41/23 42/5 42/22
driving [4] 52/25 74/1 74/2 75/22
42/24 44/12 45/2 52/8 52/17 98/7 98/7 drove [1] 83/4
D
disturbed
[1] 11/8
drug [3] 74/20 75/1 77/4
DA [4] 31/20 36/8 87/3 97/23
diverted
[1]
72/15
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daily [1] 7/22
divorce
[1]
11/14
58/16 69/18 69/21 70/4 70/10 70/11
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do
[59]
5/11
7/16
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13/7
14/16
70/12 70/13 70/19 71/2 71/4 71/10
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71/17
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24/13
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29/13
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dual-purpose
[1] 69/18
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31/12
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33/15
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35/3
35/24
duly
[1]
4/6
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37/17 37/18 37/24 37/25 38/5 38/15
during [5] 21/1 56/10 76/18 76/18 84/9
David [2] 51/3 57/16
41/2
42/10
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43/5
44/14
47/13
Dykes [3] 50/22 50/23 57/24
day [15] 7/16 7/19 7/20 12/2 58/18
58/19 70/8 80/3 80/3 81/24 82/25 83/4 52/15 53/14 58/3 61/2 61/6 69/20 79/1 E
80/12 80/19 81/8 86/7 86/23 90/8
83/4 84/23 85/12
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90/17 92/1 93/3 94/11 96/5 96/16
day-to-day [1] 80/3
55/17 55/23 56/9 56/12 56/12 56/18
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days [4] 13/4 26/7 37/3 44/6
57/2 57/2 57/13 57/19 57/23 58/1
document
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30/10
31/11
41/12
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e-mails [1] 55/19
77/13 96/14
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does [23] 15/9 15/9 16/14 17/23 20/22 each [3] 35/14 74/7 86/15
deceased [2] 25/24 25/25
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30/14 30/18 30/20 31/18 32/19 33/3
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77/2
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79/17
89/14
95/24
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[1]
50/12
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doing
[2]
44/25
95/10
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dollar
[1]
34/4
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[1]
73/8
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domestic
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43/23
45/18
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election [2] 7/14 7/15
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don't
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40/19 41/5 41/19 41/20 41/20 41/21
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41/25 42/12 42/17 45/25 48/16 48/16 emphasizing [2] 88/17 88/20
did [115]
employees [1] 87/10
49/8 54/4 56/1 56/1 58/9 58/10 63/5
didn't [72] 5/4 8/4 11/4 13/9 13/15
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26/20 30/22 31/16 31/23 34/17 35/18
enforcement [4] 4/11 4/15 5/4 73/10
86/23 88/23 88/24 89/13 90/5 90/6
35/20 35/20 38/13 43/24 47/16 48/9
engaged [1] 27/20
91/8 91/11 91/12 92/15 95/1 96/17
49/2 50/4 51/1 52/25 54/22 55/24
enlarge [2] 74/14 74/23
donate
[1]
12/8
55/25 56/14 56/16 56/17 56/21 60/2
enough [7] 45/13 81/12 83/13 83/15
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66/3 67/15 67/22 67/23 68/3 69/5
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donating
[1]
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Exhibit 58 [2] 29/15 30/11

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entities [1] 30/15
Exhibit 6 [1] 68/15
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Exhibit 66 [1] 38/7
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Exhibit 8.25 [1] 66/8
entity [4] 5/20 25/16 32/16 33/10
Exhibit 82 [1] 48/24
entry [1] 76/8
Exhibit 87 [2] 38/20 59/20
environment [1] 84/1
Exhibit 88 [1] 60/4
especially [1] 8/24
Exhibit 96.05 [1] 11/22
ESQ [7] 1/15 1/15 1/16 1/16 1/20 1/20
exhibits [2] 83/18 95/10
1/24
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esteem [1] 11/2
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et [6] 30/19 30/20 30/21 31/18 31/18
expect [1] 26/5
32/20
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et al [6] 30/19 30/20 30/21 31/18 31/18
expenditure [6] 67/9 68/7 70/5 70/6
32/20
71/14 72/4
ethics [3] 14/22 69/4 71/9
expenditures [4] 15/5 43/4 69/18 73/8
Evans [3] 25/4 25/14 64/13
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even [3] 23/15 56/14 56/16
expenses [1] 11/20
evening [1] 87/9
expert [13] 68/8 68/9 68/14 68/23
event [28] 13/17 14/10 14/12 15/8
68/24 68/25 71/5 71/7 73/3 73/18
15/10 40/17 40/18 43/14 44/9 44/17
94/18 95/22 96/19
44/19 45/11 47/6 81/11 81/12 81/24
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83/1 83/14 84/6 84/23 85/2 86/3 86/18
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86/22 87/1 90/14 90/25 91/4
93/1
events [4] 7/4 55/9 80/18 81/5
explicitly [1] 17/5
ever [7] 13/3 14/23 21/5 68/20 88/16
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88/16 89/5
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every [8] 7/16 7/19 7/20 58/19 61/18
expression [1] 43/4
64/14 68/18 81/11
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everybody [2] 82/7 82/25
extra [3] 34/7 35/18 35/20
everything [8] 26/9 61/21 71/13 71/24
80/13 83/16 83/22 84/12
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34/6 34/8 34/9 34/10 37/6 40/12 41/5
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48/6 48/16 49/8 50/21 51/12 51/14
54/18 55/6 56/17 56/21 58/10 61/9
61/22 63/5 66/17 66/24 68/10 68/13
68/14 69/5 75/4 75/11 76/20 84/17
84/20 85/5 85/5 85/21 85/21 85/22
86/23 88/4 88/23 88/24 90/5 90/6
91/12 92/15 93/13 95/20 97/18 97/21
known [3] 14/17 73/15 87/11
knows [2] 24/23 24/23
Kyle [12] 10/23 10/24 10/25 12/2 12/13
13/6 13/14 13/15 13/18 14/8 15/13
16/5
37/3 43/3 48/18 48/20 58/20 85/24

lived [3] 8/10 62/10 72/1
labor [4] 13/21 14/8 14/11 15/10
lives [2] 8/9 70/1
ladies [4] 43/6 43/6 43/7 43/8
living [2] 8/6 76/19
lady [1] 72/1
Livingston [1] 58/19
Lakehouse [1] 90/14
LLP [1] 1/19
Lane [6] 10/6 34/18 35/8 35/10 35/14
loaded [1] 83/2
37/19
loan [2] 92/10 92/21
language [1] 72/13
lobby [1] 37/21
large [2] 85/7 92/16
locker [1] 93/10
Larmann [1] 1/19
long [4] 8/6 84/21 86/16 87/14
last [11] 18/17 25/18 25/20 26/12 28/14
longer [2] 96/16 96/18
29/22 32/9 32/16 65/10 87/2 87/5
look [7] 6/25 24/17 32/2 32/15 33/23
late [3] 8/12 91/10 91/12
54/3 61/14
later [5] 43/25 48/9 48/9 60/16 83/16
looked [1] 15/4
laude [1] 9/19
looking [2] 35/7 35/7
law [23] 1/23 4/11 4/15 5/4 8/2 12/21
looks [7] 18/6 18/21 35/8 61/17 77/1
13/20 24/19 24/24 33/3 36/1 42/25
77/22 89/24
53/20 54/19 58/10 59/16 59/18 67/22
lot [27] 5/21 5/22 5/22 8/25 10/25 11/4
68/1 73/10 73/18 91/8 96/5
11/6 14/18 14/18 15/1 15/1 24/8 33/12
laws [2] 67/8 68/23
49/10 49/17 49/25 50/4 50/19 51/19
lawyer [4] 29/11 36/8 54/4 54/5
51/22 53/3 53/7 53/19 53/20 68/10
learned [4] 62/10 63/13 63/13 63/15
80/13 87/1
lease [1] 92/7
Lots [1] 16/2
least [1] 5/4
loud [1] 77/3
left [9] 30/11 43/20 58/23 59/2 83/2
LOUISIANA [22] 1/2 1/17 1/22 1/25 2/2
86/18 87/8 87/9 91/15
12/20 13/20 33/3 53/20 54/14 54/15
legal [19] 6/21 17/20 27/24 27/25 28/20
54/16 54/19 67/8 67/22 68/1 68/6
30/16 48/18 51/5 53/10 53/12 53/15
70/18 71/9 72/25 73/17 98/8
53/19 54/7 54/18 54/22 55/9 58/6
love [3] 12/2 45/17 64/15
58/14 58/16
loved [3] 11/2 36/13 36/14
legislature [2] 37/22 37/22
Lucchesi [1] 86/19
legitimate [4] 70/17 70/22 70/24 71/14
lucky [1] 49/16
Leo [10] 9/24 10/2 34/16 35/14 36/11
lucrative [3] 49/7 49/13 49/15
36/13 36/15 37/3 37/4 37/20
lumped [1] 92/24
less [6] 24/19 60/20 62/25 83/16 83/17
88/6
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let [9] 12/25 29/14 31/4 41/4 44/24
made [20] 18/23 28/18 33/10 45/16
52/22 68/4 80/21 95/18
54/10 61/11 61/17 61/25 61/25 63/11
let's [16] 12/13 14/4 20/7 22/19 29/19
64/7 75/13 76/5 81/19 84/14 90/4
30/24 39/2 43/3 48/18 62/1 69/6 69/10
92/21 92/23 93/5 97/11
73/19 87/22 95/3 96/24
magazine [1] 51/8
letter [15] 16/21 16/21 39/5 39/6 39/9
mail [16] 54/21 54/24 55/2 55/11 55/17
39/12 39/15 39/21 40/1 40/21 58/2
55/23 56/9 56/12 56/12 56/18 57/2
58/5 58/9 59/23 84/8
57/2 57/13 57/19 57/23 58/1
letterhead [5] 39/2 39/12 39/19 41/10
mails [1] 55/19
59/24
Maine [2] 51/3 57/16
letterheads [1] 39/14
major [1] 67/3
letting [1] 52/21
make [15] 17/12 21/13 22/18 25/6
liability [2] 7/4 7/7
40/13 44/15 52/17 57/4 58/16 58/19
liar [1] 40/15
60/21 61/15 68/7 69/14 86/12
life [5] 5/3 5/3 37/12 73/10 97/25
maker [1] 14/14
lighting [1] 79/6
makes [1] 91/25
lights [1] 75/25
making [6] 14/18 40/14 65/2 65/7 72/24
like [35] 8/13 8/15 9/6 12/18 15/4 15/8
87/6
18/6 18/21 19/15 26/23 35/8 36/3 37/5
many [13] 13/13 16/9 17/7 28/13 34/22
40/14 41/15 43/6 43/6 53/16 53/23
49/2 49/9 53/18 55/6 70/25 91/13
54/2 58/18 59/12 61/17 62/25 66/17
91/17 93/18
72/18 72/20 72/23 76/17 77/1 87/19
March [4] 28/2 42/4 60/23 63/23
89/13 89/24 90/2 96/5
March 25 [1] 60/23
liked [3] 43/8 49/25 50/4
MARIA [1] 1/16
Lindsay [2] 8/16 8/18
MARIANNE [1] 1/20
line [4] 14/7 15/18 75/16 75/20
Mark [2] 45/19 62/4
liquor [15] 81/24 82/24 83/2 84/20
marked [1] 46/9
84/25 85/12 85/13 85/14 87/8 88/5
markup [1] 91/20
91/16 91/17 91/24 92/1 93/17
MARQUEST [1] 1/16
list [4] 14/14 30/1 32/10 32/14
Martin's [7] 81/19 81/23 81/23 82/12
listed [3] 6/9 32/16 47/22
82/15 82/23 83/1
Listen [1] 52/9
Martindale [1] 54/3
little [11] 15/3 16/22 26/1 27/12 27/15
Martindale-Hubbell [1] 54/3
math [2] 75/13 92/2

matter [2] 61/7 98/10
may [16] 16/25 17/7 23/18 27/21 34/23
38/21 46/6 46/25 56/4 61/9 65/10
70/15 70/16 70/16 70/16 96/4
maybe [8] 5/2 5/2 8/10 11/12 44/1
44/16 60/21 64/13
McCranie [6] 39/3 40/1 48/19 49/17
59/14 60/9
McNamara [1] 1/19
me [47] 6/25 8/5 12/3 12/25 17/14
24/23 27/17 28/22 28/24 29/10 29/14
29/19 30/6 31/23 32/17 34/2 39/24
41/4 45/13 48/16 50/5 52/9 52/21
53/14 53/15 58/3 59/10 60/5 61/16
64/6 64/11 64/13 68/4 68/7 73/16
73/16 74/5 74/16 75/25 77/11 79/21
83/5 87/25 88/7 91/10 94/11 95/18
meal [1] 46/19
meals [2] 47/7 47/9
mean [5] 30/20 31/18 37/5 80/12 82/23
means [3] 30/21 31/19 70/9
meant [1] 60/16
mechanical [1] 2/6
media [4] 36/18 36/23 62/4 64/5
medicine [1] 52/14
Medtron [5] 24/14 24/15 24/16 24/16
24/21
MEEKS [1] 1/16
meet [2] 53/18 54/17
meeting [33] 18/12 21/5 23/2 23/4 23/6
23/15 23/18 23/21 23/25 24/1 24/5
24/13 25/19 25/22 26/11 26/18 28/23
29/5 29/18 30/5 30/11 31/10 32/2 32/3
32/5 32/7 32/9 42/6 42/16 42/18 42/19
42/21 42/23
meeting's [1] 29/22
meetings [15] 16/25 18/3 18/23 20/25
23/8 34/13 34/14 34/24 35/9 35/11
35/15 35/21 36/14 38/1 64/11
Melissa [1] 62/8
member [1] 43/13
members [2] 4/25 58/6
memo [2] 75/16 75/20
memory [3] 23/20 40/20 78/20
men [3] 12/7 26/5 69/15
mention [3] 75/18 75/20 89/21
mess [1] 85/25
met [9] 45/19 45/23 50/16 50/19 54/21
62/7 62/15 62/17 62/19
Metairie [1] 1/22
Michael [2] 39/7 39/9
microphone [1] 27/11
might [4] 16/15 58/17 61/10 69/23
Mike [3] 40/21 81/7 87/16
Millennium [1] 38/9
million [2] 57/21 57/24
mind [4] 17/15 27/12 27/15 60/17
mini [5] 84/15 84/21 85/11 87/12 87/14
minus [1] 75/13
minute [7] 31/4 67/3 67/10 73/22 78/8
78/9 95/12
minutes [11] 18/12 18/13 23/10 24/18
24/22 25/19 25/22 29/22 32/3 34/12
69/10
missionary [1] 51/13
Mississippi [2] 8/4 8/10
mistake [21] 39/19 39/20 39/20 60/19
60/22 61/20 61/21 62/24 63/1 64/7
68/21 71/25 77/18 77/20 78/23 79/2
Mr. Pepperman [11] 81/10 83/10 83/19

84/3 84/12 84/14 84/18 84/22 85/3
mistake... [5] 90/4 90/6 90/6 94/3 94/4
85/19 86/24
mistaken [10] 24/22 37/2 37/3 85/4
Mr. Reed [13] 4/9 21/6 25/22 33/17
85/5 85/20 85/21 88/11 88/12 88/15
57/12 59/10 67/14 69/14 85/1 85/4
mistakes [6] 16/2 60/21 61/17 61/24
85/15 85/20 86/25
61/25 94/5
Mr. Sistrunk [3] 40/2 40/25 59/5
mistrial [1] 57/5
Mrs. [4] 65/18 66/3 66/4 66/14
misunderstanding [2] 44/2 63/16
Mrs. Moseley [4] 65/18 66/3 66/4 66/14
moment [1] 41/14
Ms. [10] 19/5 22/21 33/24 34/2 39/15
Monday [1] 59/15
40/15 42/9 46/11 47/22 48/4
money [29] 12/5 12/7 12/9 12/9 19/9
Ms. Curtis [3] 46/11 47/22 48/4
19/13 19/18 22/16 33/25 34/7 47/14
Ms. Ellish [1] 33/24
47/15 53/7 63/14 64/9 64/10 67/4 68/2
Ms. Jean [4] 34/2 39/15 40/15 42/9
70/15 87/6 87/22 90/16 92/17 92/20
Ms. Reed [2] 19/5 22/21
92/21 92/23 93/1 93/2 95/7
much [16] 4/14 4/14 12/16 37/8 47/13
Monroe [3] 62/10 62/12 72/1
47/15 49/11 50/13 59/3 60/16 63/18
month [4] 27/22 65/2 65/8 72/24
68/9 75/2 93/13 96/16 96/17
months [5] 76/18 85/16 93/15 93/18
multiple [1] 94/8
94/1
Murray [1] 25/23
more [13] 8/14 14/18 27/24 43/7 49/22
my [81] 5/19 6/23 7/2 7/2 7/20 8/18
53/2 54/7 54/14 60/21 77/21 83/13
8/20 9/7 9/19 12/5 12/10 12/22 13/4
84/12 85/24
13/22 21/14 21/14 23/20 25/14 26/23
morning [2] 16/16 22/22
31/2 31/9 36/15 37/4 37/12 38/2 38/4
Moseley [10] 8/22 64/24 65/9 65/18
38/18 39/24 39/25 40/16 40/19 42/9
66/3 66/4 66/14 67/1 67/6 67/17
43/13 43/20 44/16 46/12 47/7 47/12
Moseley's [1] 67/14
50/1 50/14 50/21 56/21 57/12 58/5
most [4] 37/3 37/18 54/1 69/25
58/23 59/8 59/11 60/13 60/17 60/18
mostly [4] 52/3 53/21 53/25 82/2
60/21 61/18 61/22 63/7 65/11 66/17
mother [2] 11/16 11/17
67/2 70/13 70/22 71/11 73/3 73/10
Mother's [1] 12/2
73/17 73/18 78/20 80/12 83/2 83/3
motion [6] 28/17 28/18 28/21 28/25
84/21 85/7 85/8 85/10 85/22 85/23
29/2 57/5
87/2 87/5 91/6 91/8 96/21 97/25 98/9
move [5] 46/14 47/17 88/5 89/10 95/3
myself [4] 47/13 47/14 47/16 58/15
moved [3] 6/15 88/7 90/12
Mr [1] 29/17
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Mr. [90] 4/9 4/10 6/7 7/13 12/6 13/22
name [10] 7/5 7/9 29/20 30/7 45/19
18/15 19/11 20/5 21/6 22/7 22/8 22/9
62/4 62/7 89/3 97/18 97/21
22/10 22/15 22/17 22/22 23/17 24/20
nature [3] 21/14 44/20 44/21
25/2 25/4 25/14 25/14 25/22 25/24
nauseam [1] 23/11
26/10 26/22 27/17 28/18 28/18 29/1
near [1] 46/13
29/6 29/7 29/10 30/3 30/24 33/17 36/2
nearly [2] 4/18 34/22
36/6 36/18 37/19 38/18 39/7 40/2
necessarily [2] 35/23 42/12
40/12 40/25 41/13 41/19 42/25 43/6
need [10] 56/1 56/1 56/23 57/7 64/10
44/10 45/14 46/5 47/11 48/12 48/14
71/3 71/4 73/4 73/5 95/1
50/10 54/13 57/12 59/5 59/7 59/10
needed [6] 19/17 36/24 37/25 44/13
61/19 63/5 64/13 65/9 67/6 67/14
69/5 81/11
67/17 69/14 71/6 73/10 76/20 81/10
negligence [1] 58/7
83/10 83/19 84/3 84/12 84/14 84/18
negotiated [1] 49/11
84/22 85/1 85/3 85/4 85/15 85/19
nephew [2] 7/25 72/20
85/20 86/24 86/25 90/21
never [23] 14/22 14/23 23/12 23/13
Mr. Carson [1] 36/2
24/16 26/13 33/7 36/9 37/6 37/12
Mr. Cordes [13] 18/15 20/5 22/7 22/8
47/14 63/12 68/24 69/3 73/12 73/12
22/9 22/10 22/15 22/17 22/22 28/18
73/12 77/16 88/15 88/22 89/5 97/25
29/1 29/7 29/10
98/2
Mr. Core [1] 28/18
new [8] 1/17 1/25 2/2 38/9 44/15 58/16
Mr. Evans [3] 25/4 25/14 64/13
58/17 58/19
Mr. Garrity [3] 6/7 48/12 90/21
news [1] 64/5
Mr. Garrity's [1] 48/14
next [5] 7/14 23/2 67/12 73/3 83/4
Mr. Ginsberg [32] 4/10 7/13 12/6 13/22
nice [3] 45/13 49/11 51/13
19/11 23/17 24/20 26/10 26/22 27/17
night [1] 83/14
29/6 30/3 30/24 37/19 38/18 40/12
no [130]
41/13 41/19 42/25 43/6 44/10 45/14
No. [2] 17/16 17/19
46/5 47/11 50/10 54/13 59/7 61/19
No. 1 [2] 17/16 17/19
63/5 71/6 73/10 76/20
nobody [3] 9/13 9/15 37/23
Mr. Hemelt [2] 36/6 36/18
nobody's [1] 48/15
Mr. Jones [2] 25/2 25/14
nola.com [1] 95/7
Mr. Michael [1] 39/7
Nolan [1] 96/15
Mr. Moseley [3] 65/9 67/6 67/17
None [1] 37/21
Mr. Paul [1] 25/24
nonmoving [1] 52/24
Norris [1] 44/24

not [110]
notation [1] 39/5
note [3] 43/17 43/20 48/10
nothing [7] 42/25 55/5 72/3 87/20 90/7
90/8 90/11
notice [1] 68/18
now [11] 8/6 23/11 23/25 25/23 27/8
64/3 66/15 69/8 71/7 84/17 94/16
number [12] 6/3 16/14 17/20 50/11
50/16 55/13 56/7 80/14 89/18 91/3
92/2 95/6
numbers [2] 74/5 86/13
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oath [1] 4/4
object [1] 57/4
objection [10] 46/16 47/19 56/21 57/2
57/8 94/16 94/22 95/9 95/15 97/5
occasions [1] 94/8
October [14] 19/4 19/23 20/8 21/24
22/22 23/4 23/10 23/22 23/22 23/25
25/19 26/16 26/21 42/14
October 15 [1] 19/23
October 18 [2] 20/8 23/22
October 1996 [4] 19/4 23/10 26/16
42/14
October 21 [5] 22/22 23/4 23/22 23/25
25/19
October of [1] 21/24
off [2] 15/8 89/7
offered [2] 36/9 36/25
offering [1] 58/5
office [59] 1/14 1/21 4/13 4/20 6/10
7/14 9/22 10/4 10/6 10/8 10/10 10/17
17/5 17/6 17/18 17/19 17/22 17/25
18/24 19/10 20/18 20/21 21/1 21/17
21/22 25/8 25/15 27/1 27/10 27/19
27/23 28/3 30/15 31/2 31/2 32/21
32/24 33/1 33/2 33/8 34/1 35/25 36/24
37/5 37/9 37/16 39/15 39/17 40/9
41/11 41/12 41/23 42/5 45/4 45/12
50/5 70/14 91/1 91/5
officer [2] 4/11 4/15
official [6] 2/1 33/13 44/13 70/15 98/6
98/14
officials [1] 82/2
Oh [13] 9/1 20/5 29/1 62/14 64/8 74/13
79/16 88/2 90/18 91/10 91/12 91/22
93/8
okay [22] 13/11 16/23 24/3 24/7 27/17
28/7 29/21 29/21 30/4 40/1 44/9 48/16
56/3 56/18 57/6 59/13 60/6 71/19
71/21 77/11 88/2 96/9
Oklahoma [2] 50/24 57/24
old [2] 23/20 88/8
on [65] 12/16 14/5 14/17 15/18 21/8
21/17 30/10 35/24 39/17 41/13 41/18
41/19 43/17 45/20 46/2 46/11 46/13
47/22 48/23 53/4 58/10 59/23 60/17
61/4 61/21 62/4 67/11 69/22 69/23
70/7 71/8 73/3 77/17 77/23 78/1 79/10
79/13 79/17 80/14 82/1 82/8 82/13
83/6 83/16 83/23 84/14 87/23 89/3
89/14 89/15 89/17 89/22 90/2 92/10
92/12 92/16 93/9 93/24 94/5 94/8 95/1
95/3 95/21 95/23 96/8
one [52] 1/21 6/14 6/16 9/1 9/3 26/2
26/7 27/3 27/5 27/24 30/15 35/15
37/25 39/14 39/14 43/8 48/5 51/7
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one... [34] 51/14 55/18 58/18 59/24
60/20 61/18 62/25 64/20 68/22 69/5
69/22 71/17 73/22 73/24 74/7 74/7
76/8 76/20 77/14 77/15 77/17 77/21
78/8 78/9 78/12 78/13 78/24 83/15
83/25 84/18 87/4 95/12 95/22 96/6
one-minute [3] 73/22 78/8 78/9
ones [1] 80/10
only [13] 9/13 18/10 21/5 25/6 25/16
26/24 37/16 37/18 37/25 48/5 53/20
90/16 95/21
opinion [6] 69/3 73/17 95/24 95/24 96/1
96/11
opponent [1] 7/16
or [43] 8/14 10/20 11/12 15/8 19/23
24/9 26/20 30/10 31/3 32/14 35/14
36/8 37/5 37/24 38/3 40/15 41/5 41/7
45/2 45/21 45/25 48/17 51/24 52/14
54/2 55/9 70/14 70/14 70/16 72/15
76/18 78/23 79/1 82/5 82/10 84/20
84/20 85/21 89/3 90/6 90/20 91/20
96/7
order [1] 22/2
Orleans [3] 1/17 1/25 2/2
other [16] 8/21 10/19 20/23 31/20 49/1
50/16 50/19 52/4 53/2 53/16 53/21
54/15 69/23 77/15 81/8 87/22
others [5] 30/21 31/19 31/20 58/8 81/8
ought [2] 59/16 91/6
our [2] 84/2 91/6
out [41] 11/20 11/25 12/4 12/5 25/1
26/12 28/22 29/8 34/3 39/16 40/1
41/17 44/3 45/9 48/5 49/12 53/21 55/4
58/22 58/23 60/5 65/5 65/11 66/7
66/12 67/14 71/16 71/21 72/4 73/9
77/2 80/6 81/11 82/22 85/10 86/1
87/15 90/9 91/17 95/25 97/12
out-of-state [1] 53/21
outside [1] 62/12
over [13] 4/11 14/16 24/8 45/3 48/9
51/13 53/13 61/23 79/4 86/18 87/8
87/9 95/6
overcharging [1] 88/6
overseeing [1] 80/13
own [6] 6/3 6/12 47/12 55/19 82/22
91/16
owns [1] 91/16
Oxford [2] 8/6 8/9
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page [22] 3/2 14/5 15/16 18/17 18/18
24/10 24/11 25/18 25/20 28/14 29/22
29/23 32/9 32/11 32/15 47/6 65/16
68/16 72/11 76/3 76/6 95/14
page 2 [4] 32/15 47/6 65/16 95/14
page 3 [2] 24/10 68/16
page 4 [2] 24/11 29/23
page 61 [2] 76/3 76/6
pages [2] 25/19 28/14
paid [49] 7/2 11/13 12/5 12/7 12/9 13/6
13/14 13/16 44/3 46/19 46/22 47/7
47/7 58/21 58/23 60/7 60/9 60/11
60/12 60/13 60/18 61/19 63/1 63/2
63/6 63/8 63/10 64/9 65/12 66/7 66/10
66/14 66/16 66/20 67/14 67/24 67/25
68/3 73/19 77/15 77/17 88/23 88/24
89/7 89/8 89/21 89/24 90/2 91/19
Papale [1] 1/19
paragraph [2] 17/13 27/9

paragraph 3 [1] 27/9
paragraph D [1] 17/13
Parish [9] 8/24 16/17 26/25 27/19
27/23 32/17 37/24 50/20 74/11
Parishes [2] 4/16 44/13
parishioners [1] 52/6
part [9] 7/21 7/21 36/22 36/23 45/4
45/11 61/21 65/11 67/2
particular [1] 36/22
particularly [1] 24/4
parties [1] 13/14
partner [4] 8/22 40/10 66/1 72/23
party [11] 12/14 12/17 13/10 65/12
65/18 67/14 67/18 72/18 72/20 72/23
76/2
pass [1] 21/9
passage [3] 22/6 28/11 29/2
passed [32] 17/5 18/5 20/23 21/3 21/11
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32/6 32/22 42/20 49/14 51/21 52/1
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

U.S. Attorney's Office

For Walter P. Reed:

Hailey McNamara Hall Larmann

For Steven P. Reed:

Willis Law Group, PLLC

Official Court Reporter:

Toni Doyle Tusa, CCR, FCRR

Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography using

(April 29, 2016)

You are still under oath, sir.

Good afternoon, Mr. Reed.

Hello, Mr. Ginsberg.

You were the chief law enforcement officer for over

300,000 people for approximately 30 years, weren't you?

much, much smaller place.

St. Tammany and Washington Parishes, right?

Yes, that's correct.

You held that position for nearly 30 years?

You were the head of your office, were you not?

Towards the end you had, what, approximately 47, 48 ADAs

Probably 45, 46.

And then with a bunch of staff members as well, support

How are you?

Back when I first took office, it was a

Well, you were the chief law enforcement officer of

You're close, though.

I think maybe 135 people, 140 maybe.

You spent your whole life, your whole adult life, at

least, in law enforcement, didn't you?

So you know the importance of trust?

No, I'm not a precision guy.

You were also the head of your campaign?

You were the head of your campaign.

I was the head of it?

You did have a lot of help.

Ron was a big help.

He was the treasurer of the campaign?

Is that your question?

You were the head of the Walter Reed

With a lot of help, I was.

He was the treasurer.

And the campaign, it filed taxes separately than you did

You created that in 1991?

I'm not sure about that.

With the help of Mr. Garrity?

I'm not sure about the

The address listed for the campaign, it was actually

It had its own tax identification number, right?

wasn't your home.

It was Ron Garrity's office, right?

The campaign had its own bank accounts?

Capital One Bank?

I think it moved around from place to place.

You had some at Capital One.

Yeah, that would be right.

The campaign earned interest, right, the accounts?

The campaign also entered into a variety of legal

I would have to look at something to convince me of that.

You also had some at

It had cell phone contracts with Verizon?

Somebody else would have been in charge of that?