Marienburg and Carroburgo

ARECHE

No. 1

14 / Jan / 2013, 18:16 Edited by ARECHE

Within Chaos involved in Casiones, and full as it is of incongruity, the background of warhammer, I arise doubts about these
two cities.
Carroburgo: little is known about the city on the Reik and close to Altdorf. References are either meeting or cartographic
make mention its famous Greatswords. The problem arises when we compare both sources. In mapping the city is always
declared as belonging to Middenland, but references to the Greatswords place it in Reikland. My conclusion is that the city
during the civil wars passed into the hands of different counts, producing the azaa of swordsmen in a time belonged to
Reikland, but subsequently went back to Middenland hands. Opinions? Are there concrete contributions to resolve the doubt
?.
Marienburg: independent for almost 100 years and today is the Old World's largest city. So far so good. When we read the
imperial background, especially the codex 5th, we can not know for certain how, or what is that city, but the context of
other background, if I do certain idea. Mapping always situated south of the great estuary that forms the Reik at its
mouth. Nuln stories about, say that in this city is the last bridge across the Reik at once, since in Altdorf, get it with viaducts
ranging from island to island. Therefore, I understand that in the independent city there is NO bridge able to save so mighty
river.
However, I run the game as undependable wiki (http://es.labibliotecadelviejomundo.wikia.com/wiki/Marienburgo) where
they give all the details, maps and plans of a huge city and controlling the Reik with impressive fortifications and
bridges. What truth is this description ?, or is it just a contribution of amateur as I understand it ?.
It also conflicts that Marienburg is historically seat of the Earl of Nordland (and no, after independence) and on this website
talk about Westerland as their status and the wastelands as part of it. All unknown to me.
(Http://es.labibliotecadelviejomundo.wikia.com/wiki/Tierras_Desoladas). If someone is able to give me an explanation, I'd
appreciate it.
And all this comes to the background of my army, it depends on whether the page is not right
of doubt.

. I hope know clear my sea

Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!

deSardinett

No. 2

14 / Jan / 2013, 21:57

Originally written by @ARECHE

It also conflicts that Marienburg is historically seat of the Earl of Nordland (and no, after independence) and on this website
talk about Wasteland as their status and the wastelands as part of it. All unknown to me.

Http://es.labibliotecadelviejomundo.wikia.com/wiki/Tierras_Desoladas
If someone is able to give me an explanation, I'd appreciate it.
Marienburg legally belongs to Nordland, even independently. your confusion comes because what today is called
"wasteland" in English and wastelands in Castilian, in some sources was initially westerland region (western land in
Reikspiel) that became independent with Marienburg. anyway there are flaws in the imperial background, and the regions of
Nordland and westerland intermingle along historical accounts.

SAMU0L0

No. 3

14 / Jan / 2013, 22:30

From what I understood I Marienburg is only one side of the river it is in both why this fortified on both sides
As be in the maps

As be on maps on this map of wastelands can see that it is on both sides of the river if you zoom
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/_[....]ndo/es/images/3/35/Wasteland_v2.jpg

In addition to the maps the buildings are built on islands that are within the river (probably part of the delta of the river) so
as nul because Marienburg have not made a single bridge but have joined the various islands with several

ARECHE

No. 4

14 / Jan / 2013, 23:29

deSardinett : Thanks for the clarification. That was what he meant, but I changed both name westerland by wasteland, I've
edited.Come on , I'll take that is one of many inconsistencies found in the texts, for lack of mime into the background. Of
wastelands in my library only encounter that are uninhabited and are a hotbed of orcs, beastmen and stuff ... anything
related to the port city.
SAMU0L0 : here the problem is that I doubt the source. Those planes are attached taken from the wiki links, why not have
credibility because I believe they are amateur contributions. A great gigs certainly, but I think they are not official (if
someone shows me the error, be grateful), only the vision of an amateur, this page has wanted to be sure, but without
providing sources (though in many other items if the notes). Hence my doubts.
That if, before the doubts, I am left with my version that's why I've carefully worked for a thousand years
reinvent a background for trivial issues, but as the frikismo often wallows in them and is very funny ...

. I will not

To see if there is someone who is able to solventrmelas. Also of Carroburgo.

Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!

SAMU0L0

No. 5

15 / Jan / 2013, 00:37 Edited by SAMU0L0

Originally written by @ARECHE

deSardinett : Thanks for the clarification. That was what he meant, but I changed both name westerland by wasteland, I've
edited. Come on , I'll take that is one of many inconsistencies found in the texts, for lack of mime into the background. Of
wastelands in my library only encounter that are uninhabited and are a hotbed of orcs, beastmen and stuff ... anything
related to the port city.
SAMU0L0 : here the problem is that I doubt the source. Those planes are attached taken from the wiki links, why not have
credibility because I believe they are amateur contributions. A great gigs certainly, but I think they are not official (if
someone shows me the error, be grateful), only the vision of an amateur, this page has wanted to be sure, but without
providing sources (though in many other items if the notes). Hence my doubts.
That if, before the doubts, I am left with my version that's why I've carefully worked for a thousand years
reinvent a background for trivial issues, but as the frikismo often wallows in them and is very funny ...
To see if there is someone who is able to solventrmelas. Also of Carroburgo.
Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!

. I will not

Marienburg is within the wastelands on the map of the empire eighth book can see
As for the maps, you can ask those who have been removed from where but white looks official
As for me Carroburgo sounds that belonged to Drakwald before it disappeared and puts that was the capital of the empire
under the reign of the emperors of Drakwald and former home of the kings who were teutgenos Drakwald. Maybe when

the espaderos even outside of Drakwald

By the way Why does this affect the background of your army?

Edito: You may be white map

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ARECHE

No. 6

15 / Jan / 2013, 1:46

SAMU0L0 : apology, but Drakwald is a forest belonging to Middenland, not a state. Carroburgo that could be capital of the
Empire, because if we know little from the foundation to the Great Plague of 1111, and the capital is rotating, depends
on the chosen as emperor.
Well, for you a slight idea of the background: http://warhammeraqui.mforos.com/389[....]102943-el-trasfondo-de-tuejercito/ ... so I have much more elaborate, but it can be very tostn

Finally a reflection to settle, I hope, what of westerland: there are twelve runic tusks, one for each initial province. Given
remaining 10 have disappeared Solland and Silvania, it seems logical that Westerland never existed, at least as a province.
Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!

SAMU0L0

No. 7

15 / Jan / 2013, 2:00

Originally written by @ARECHE

SAMU0L0 : apology, but Drakwald is a forest belonging to Middenland, not a state. Carroburgo that could be capital of the
Empire, because if we know little from the foundation to the Great Plague of 1111, and the capital is rotating, depends
on the chosen as emperor.
Well, for you a slight idea of the background: http://warhammeraqui.mforos.com/389[....]102943-el-trasfondo-de-tuejercito/... so I have much more elaborate, but it can be very tostn
.
Finally a reflection to settle, I hope, what of westerland: there are twelve runic tusks, one for each initial province. Given
remaining 10 have disappeared Solland and Silvania, it seems logical that Westerland never existed, at least as a province.
Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!

Drakwald was a province who disappeared whose last elector count was konrad Aldrech (Silvania think it was conquered
after the creation of the empire) (I've taken from the book of empire octave) westerland neck was province is a desolate
area between the Empire and Bretonnia that nobody bothers to conquer and in which there are some towns and cities that
do not belong to anyone (including Marienburg)

deSardinett

No. 8

15 / Jan / 2013 10:49

Originally written by @ARECHE

Finally a reflection to settle, I hope, what of westerland: there are twelve runic tusks, one for each initial province. Given
remaining 10 have disappeared Solland and Silvania, it seems logical that Westerland never existed, at least as a province.
Sigmar keep you, or call you to account !!!
exact. runic list fangs, their initial province and the tribe to which he gave in the book westerland army and nothing is
said. I think I read in forums in English (do not know until reliable point) that westerland is a fairly uninhabited marshland
and claimed by the lords of nordland, but which have not taken possession basically because no avail. so it is a no man's
land without a lord.

cervecista

No. 9

15 / Jan / 2013 11:33

From what I know from Warhammer RPG it is that Marienburg is located at the mouth of Reik and belonged to Norlando
until independence. Reik lowlands are called badlands, a marshy area often covered by thick fog which still live Fimmir. A lo
mejor confusion comes from Wasteland which means badlands