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MEETING INFORMATION
TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2016
HOLIDAY INN
2726 S. Grand Avenue
Santa Ana, CA 92705
(see map on page 6)
Social & Registration. 5:30 6:00 p.m.
Dinner . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6:00 7:00 p.m.
Dinner Program . . . . . 7:00 8:30 p.m.
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Student . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $10.00
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DINNER TOPIC
Combined Heat and Power
(CHP) by Keith Davidson,
Jeremy Del Real & Gene Kogan

TECH SESSION
Proposing Alternative Standards
to Save Energy in Future
Buildings by Travis English
Orange Spiel Editor
Robert Hagstrom, P.E.
c/o Southern California Edison
6090-B North Irwindale Avenue
Irwindale, CA 91702
Phone: (626) 633-3432
Cell: (626) 609-9791
E-Mail: Robert.Hagstrom@sce.com

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TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2016

DINNER PROGRAM

TECH SESSION

COMBINED HEAT AND POWER

PROPOSING ALTERNATIVE
STANDARDS TO SAVE ENERGY
IN FUTURE BUILDINGS

This months Dinner Session topic

focuses on Combined Heat and
Power (CHP), and is being chaired by
Gear up for a very different future!
a number of DOE Employees from the
Key ventilation standards adopted by
CHP Technical Assistant Partnership
ASHRAE, FGI, the Joint Commission,
(www.pacificchptap.org/). Combined
CMS and others drive 60
heat and power (CHP) is a
percent to percent of
proven and effective energy
typical hospital energy use.
option capable of enhancing the
The single largest opportunity
nations energy efficiency, promoting
for energy conservation and
economic growth and improving the
savings in future building design
security of our energy infrastructure.
is reducing code-required airflows to
The speakers will present two
spaces where they dont affect
programs that provide
patient outcomes and safety.
incentives and technical
There are big opportunities in
assistance for efficient
existing buildings, also.
distributed generation and
Come hear 1) What Kaiser
energy storage.
Permanente learned
They will discuss
ENERGY CONSERVATION IS A
from three years of deep
the U.S.
REAL BALANCING ACT! LEARN ALL research into the
ABOUT IT AT THIS MONTHS
Department of
standards origins and
INFORMATIVE MEETING!
Energys Pacific
requirements, 2) How
CHP Technical
you can stay on top of, and help
Assistance Partnership (CHP TAP)
advance proposed alternative
which offers subsidized project
standards that could improve air
engineering support in California,
change rates, temperature, humidity,
Nevada and Hawaii for businesses
and natural ventilation, 3) How you
and communities looking for the right
can prepare for the changes in ways
CHP technology to meet their electric
that will deliver big savings in energy
and thermal needs.
costs and greenhouse gases for years
Also presented will be the Selfto come.
Generation Incentive Program (SGIP)
Our speaker, Travis English, aPE,
in the SDG&E service territory, which
CEM, LEED-AP, is the Facilities
provides financial incentives for
Planning & Design Director of
installing clean and efficient
Engineering and chief design
(See DINNER PROGRAM page 2)

(See TECH SESSION page 3)

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JEFFS BLOG
April is our last
regular chapter
meeting for the
2015-2016 year.
I hope to see a big
turnout for the meeting. Our
chapter is also hosting the
ASHRAE webcast Making
Net Zero Net Positive:
Solving the Efficiency &

DINNER PROGRAM
(continued from page 1)

distributed generation and energy

storage technologies. SGIP is a
ratepayer-funded rebate program
overseen by the California Public
Utilities Commission (CPUC).
DINNER PROGRAM SPEAKERS
Mr. Gene Kogan is the
director of the U.S. DOE Pacific
Combined Heat and Power
Technical
Assistance
Partnership
(CHP TAP)
which provides
federally funded
engineering
assistance for
CHP projects in three states:
California, Nevada, and Hawaii.
Gene coordinates with other
CHP TAP directors across the
United States, DOE
staff, industry stakeholders, and
customers with focus on
Combined Heat & Power (CHP),
Waste Heat to Power (WHP),
and District Energy (DE).
Genes previous roles include
10 years in Engineering
Operations, Energy Efficiency
Programs, and Major Account
Portfolio Management with San
Diego Gas & Electric utility, and 3
years as Global Energy Programs

Cost Paradox in two

different locations. Check
the website for locations
and sign up!
Our event calendar is
rapidly coming to a close
for the 2015-2016 year.
Soon it will be time to start
planning for the next years
events. Which, is the perfect
segue into my unapologetic pitch
for anyone interested in getting

involved in our chapter for the

upcoming year. We are always
looking for people to get involved
helping with Student Activities,
YEA, Grassroots Government
Affairs, and the Golf Tourney.
Also, I will be needing a great
deal of assistance in preparing for
the 2017 Summer Annual
Conference in Long Beach over
the next year. Thanks, and have a
great month. Jeff Conrad

Manager for Saint-Gobain Solar

Gard division. Gene is a San
Diego State University alumnus
with a degree in electrical
engineering.

economic analysis and market

development. He was past
president of the American
Cogeneration Association and is
the recipient of several industry
honors, including the Association
of Energy Engineers Cogeneration Professional of the Year, and
the American Gas Associations
(AGA) Industrial and Commercial
Hall of Flame. He served as
Chairman of the National
Association of Energy Service
Companies (NAESCO) DG
Committee. Currently he is active
in the California Clean DG
Coalition (CCDC) and the
Association of Energy Engineers.

Mr. Keith Davidson is the

President of DE Solutions, Inc.
(www.de-solutions.com), a
consulting and engineering firm
serving the
distributed
energy markets.
Mr. Davidson
was formerly
President of
Energy Nexus
Group and a
senior vice president at Onsite
Energy Corp., where he had
regional responsibility for energy
services and oversaw the
consulting practice. Prior to
Onsite, Mr. Davidson was a
Director at the Gas Research
Institute (GRI), where he led
programs directed at electric
power generation, cogeneration,
gas cooling and industrial process
improvements.
Mr. Davidson has more than
25 years of experience in energy
and environmental technology
development, project
management, product
commercialization, feasibility
studies, application engineering,

Mr. Jeremy Del Real has over five

years of experience in providing
energy solutions consulting and
project development. As a
member of
CSEs energy
engineering
staff, he applies
research results
to analytical
projects and develops proof-ofconcept proposals. He is also a
technical expert during the
business development and is
responsible for identifying and
understanding the energy and
(See DINNER PROGRAM page 3)

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TECH SESSION
(continued from page 1)

engineer for Kaiser Permanente

(KP), headquartered in Oakland.
Travis is a PE, with his BS in
Mechanical Engineering and an
MBA in management. He has 20
years of experience in design and
construction.
With KP, his
emphasis is a
value-based and
outcomes-based
approach to
MEP systems,
to meet the
challenge of world class care that
is also affordable care.

DINNER PROGRAM
(continued from page 2)

mechanical related issues within a

customers facility.
Jeremy takes site evaluation
information and develops
comprehensive, cost-effective
solutions that increase the
operational energy efficiency of
the site. He establishes ongoing
relationships with the customer,
providing technical consultation
on current and future energy and
operating efficiencies.
Prior to CSE, Jeremy has been
an energy solutions consultant for
commercial/industrial utility
customers assisting them in
identifying, evaluating, and
developing feasible and costeffective projects that mitigate long
term energy and operational costs.
He has a B.S. in Mechanical
Engineering from California
Polytechnic State University. He is
a California licensed Mechanical
Engineer and is an AEE Certified
Energy Manager and is a member
of ASHRAE, AEE, and the US
Green Building Council.

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WHEN IS A BOILER A HEATER?

By Craig F. Hofferber, CxA

It seems anything that heats

water is called a boiler these
days. What is wrong with that?
Well, boilers boil water into steam
inside a pressure vessel for use in
space or process heating or
propulsion purposes. Examples
of boilers used in this industry are
Scotch Marine fire tube or dual
drum style water tube types that
allow steam from the boiling water
to separate and collect in an
upper drum before discharging
into the steam supply main dry at
high pressure. The steam
pressure is determined by its
purpose, that being space or
process heating, or even
propulsion. Low pressure steam
can be used for heating, laundry
cleaning and sterilizing at higher
temperatures.
On the other hand, heating
water can be generated by fire
under a finned tube heat
exchanger, flame through tubes
heating surrounding water or by
vertical flame dispersion
surrounded radially by heat
exchange coils. Condensing
heaters sometimes use a
secondary stainless steel HX to
cool the exhaust products into
condensation after a primary
finned tube HX that cannot (and
must not) condense products of
combustion heats the water first.

Some heaters using flame

dispersion simply condense
combustion products with extra
tube surface inside the heater
enclosure. Water can be heated
with upwards of 98% efficiency
when the systems they serve
return cooler water to take
advantage of this property.
So what do we call a piece of
equipment that just heats water?
A water heater? No, because
visions of a tank with a flame
under it come to mind like a gravity
vented domestic storage water
heater. Perhaps heating water
heater is a good name, or simply
heating water generator. ASME
defines boilers and heaters in the
same groups as indicated below.
There are code and rating
agencies (ASME and others)
involved with rating boilers for
water volumes, pressures and
temperatures when generating
high pressure steam (S stamp).
If they have a large water volume,
they need the H stamp.
Building inspectors need to know
how to handle either one without
penalizing building owners with
one over the other. Then there
are pressure relief ratings
applying to boilers and heaters.
High pressure is >15 psig and
below 15 psig is low pressure.
Some code definitions follow:
1. ASME STEAM BOILER
(Generator): A fired or
unfired closed pressure vessel
used to generate steam by
application of heat.
a. Low Pressure Boiler: A
boiler generating steam at
(See WHEN IS A BOILER page 5)

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WHEN IS A BOILER
(continued from page 3)

pressures not exceeding 15

psig. ASME Section 4
Heating Boiler H stamp.
b. High Pressure Boiler: A
boiler generating steam or
other vapor at a pressure
exceeding 15 psig.
ASME Section 1 - S
stamp.
c. Small Power Boiler:
Defined as a boiler
generating steam
pressure greater than 15
psig but not exceeding
100 psig with less than
350,000 BTUh heat
output commonly used in
dry cleaning operations.
2. ASME HEATING WATER
BOILER (Generator):
a. Low pressure/temperature
boiler: A boiler not
operating at pressures
exceeding 160 psig or
water temperatures
exceeding 250F requiring
the ASME Section 4 H
stamp.
b. High pressure/temperature
boiler: A boiler used to heat
water or another liquid to
temperatures above 212F
exceeding 160 psig or to a
temperature exceeding
250F regardless of
pressure. ASME Section 1
S stamp.
3. ASME CSD-1-2012
Controls and Safety
Devices for Automatically
Fired Boilers.
Water Heater: An enclosed
vessel except for openings
through which water can flow,
that includes a heat generating
apparatus having controls and
safety devices necessary to
prevent pressures greater than

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160 psig and water

temperatures greater than
210F (99C), in which water
is heated by the combustion of
fuels, electricity or other heat
source and circulated for
external use.

4. ASME BPVC IV 2015

Rules for Construction of
Heating Boilers.
Water Heater: A vessel in
which potable water is heated
by the combustion of fuel, by
electricity, or by another
source, and withdrawn for
external use.
Water Heater, lined: A water
heater with a corrosion
resistant lining designed to
heat potable water.
Water Heater, unlined:
A water heater made from
corrosion resistant
materials designed to heat
potable water.
5. NFPA 54 2015 National
Fuel Gas Code.
Water Heater: An appliance
for supplying heated water for
domestic or commercial
purposes.
6. UMC 2015 Uniform
Mechanical Code.
Water Heater or WaterHeating Boiler: An appliance

designed primarily to supply

heated water for domestic or
commercial purposes and
equipped with automatic
controls limiting water
temperature to a maximum of
210F (99C).
The name boiler is now
being used by instant water
heater manufacturers entering
our markets for replacing
storage water heaters in
residences and light
commercial water heating
applications. These devices
have very low water volumes
and are about as far away from
being a boiler as they can be,
unless the water flow stops
before the flame does, then it
inadvertently becomes a boiler.
Normal operation would never
reach boiling temperatures so
they should be called tankless
water heaters, which seems to
represent what they really are.
These heaters dont require an
ASME stamp either, because they
have low internal water volume
and pressure, and cannot
generate an explosion. In
essence, they would just melt
down in a worst case scenario.
What about you? Are you
perplexed about naming
everything that heats water a
boiler, and the obvious confusion
in naming and rating conventions?
Perhaps we should go back to
1949 and name boilers Steam
Generators and water heaters
Heating Water Generators, and
put the proper names back in the
ASHRAE and ASPE guides.
Perhaps ASME will follow and
clarify their naming of these
ubiquitous devices as well. Then
there are those pesky little instant
water heaters that clog up with
solids causing one to worry.
END

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Vice President . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kenneth Golovko
Treasurer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Derrick Wyka
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Programs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eric Decker

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Student Activities . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bryson Borzini
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2015

Dinner: The Design / Build Process
Theme: Membership Night
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
OCTOBER 28, 2015
Technical: DDC and FDD Challenges in
California
Dinner: Increased Pump Efficiency Using
Full Size Impellers and The Benefits
of Overspeeding Pumps
Theme: Joint Meeting with ASPE
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
NOVEMBER 17, 2015
Dinner: Tall Building Challenges with
Distinguished Lecturer Peter
Simmonds
Theme: SMACNA Night
Place:
Holliday Inn, Santa Ana
DECEMBER 15, 2015
Dinner: Making Connections
Theme: Joint Meeting with So. California and
Tri-County Chapters
Place:
SoCal Gas ERC, Downey

JANUARY 19, 2016

Dinner: Refrigerants and Regulatory Update
Theme: Refrigeration and Membership Night
J.T. Schmids (Anaheim/Honda Ctr.)
Place:
FEBRUARY 23, 2016
Technical: Tour of the Aquarium of the Pacific
Dinner at: Bubba Gump Shrimp Company
Theme: Research and Past Presidents Night
Place:
Aquarium of the Pacific, Long Beach
MARCH 15, 2016
Dinner: Understanding HVAC and Plant
Dynamics in Grow Room
Applications
Theme: Joint Meeting with San Diego
Place:
The Crossings At Carlsbad
APRIL 26, 2016
Technical: Proposing Alternative Standards to
Save Energy in Future Buildings
Dinner: Combined Heat and Power (CHP)
Theme: Student Night
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
MAY 24, 2016
Theme: Officer and Board Installation
Place:
TBD

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MEETING SUMMARY

TUESDAY
APRIL 26, 2016
DINNER TOPIC
Combined Heat and
Power (CHP) by Keith
Davidson, Jeremy Del
Real & Gene Kogan

TECH SESSION
Proposing Alternative
Standards to Save Energy
in Future Buildings by
Travis English

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