Orange County, California

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MEETING INFORMATION
TUESDAY, JANUARY 19, 2016
JT SCHMID'S ANAHEIM
2610 E Katella Avenue
Anaheim, CA 92806
(714) 634-9200
(see map on page 5)

JANUARY MEETING NOTICE

Special Event Time. . . . 5:00 9:00 p.m.

PLEASE E-MAIL
(PREFERRED),
PHONE, OR FAX YOUR
RESERVATIONS TO:
Carlon Haywood
c/o Setpoint Systems Corporation
chaywood@setpointsystems.com
Phone (949) 396-4713
Fax (949) 251-0787

TUESDAY, JANUARY 19, 2016

This years Refrigeration and Microbrewery event will be held at JT Schmids!
Please join us to learn about about refrigerants and regulations while enjoying the
tastes of the finest brews Orange County offers. Please drink responsibly.

PRICE SCHEDULE
Pre-Registration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $40.00
At the Door . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $45.00

IF CANCELLATION IS NOT
RECEIVED YOU WILL BE BILLED
FOR THE SESSION
SEE PAGE 5 FOR FAX ORDER FORM

SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAM

Refrigerants and Regulatory
Update by Ms. Christina
Spalding

Orange Spiel Editor

Robert Hagstrom, P.E.
c/o Southern California Edison
6042-A N. Irwindale Avenue
Irwindale, CA 91702
Phone: (626) 633-3432
Cell: (626) 609-9791
E-Mail: Robert.Hagstrom@sce.com

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REFRIGERANTS AND REGULATORY UPDATE

Christina Spalding with Chemours (formally DuPont) will be presenting a
Refrigerants and Regulatory Update that will include phase-out overview and HCFC
allocations, as well as various proposals that CARB is instituting for GWP
reductions. Christina will also review what products are currently available in the
marketplace for retrofit of low, medium and high temp applications. These are
products that can be used in existing systems and allow the equipment owner to
transition to HFC's and HFOs, away from HCFC's in those situations where
replacing with new equipment is not needed.
Also time will be spent talking about next generation refrigerants for both mobile
and stationary applications. Chemours has developed several HFO based, low
GWP products to replace many of the familiar higher GWP counterparts (404, 507,
134a, R22, R123 etc.) in various applications from low temp and medium temp
commercial refrigeration, transport, chillers, foam expansion etc.

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JEFFS BLOG
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
We are already halfway
through the 2015-2016
ASHRAE season. The
first half has been great
and I look forward to the
second half to be just as
good.
Rolling off of the
holiday season, January
is a busy month. Our

meeting this month is our annual

Refrigeration Meeting and will be
on January 19th at JT Schmids
in Anaheim (across from the
Honda Center). We are having
it a week early this month due to
the ASHRAE Annual Winter
Conference which is the following
week in Orlando, FL.
Speaking of which, I hope
as many of you as are
able can attend the
Winter Conference and

D ISCUSSION ITEMS

REVISED APPROVED

MINUTES
Date: November 17, 2014
Time: 4:50 5:40 PM
Place: Holiday Inn
2726 S. Grand Avenue
Santa Ana, CA 92705

M EETING ATTENDEES
Bryson Borzini (BB)
Jeff Conrad (JC)
Eric Decker (ED)
Michael Garabedian (MG)
Greg Glover (GG)
Robert Hagstrom (RH)
Jeff Hanzel (JH)
Craig Hofferber (CH)
Mike Lynaugh (ML)
Margaret Peterson (MP)
Steve Rawski (SR)
John Sawyer (JS)
Grant Shaffer (GS)
Mat Waller (MW)
David Yancosky (DY)

CALL TO ORDER
1. Meeting called to order at
4:50 PM.
2. Quorum established.
3. Announcements.
4. Next Meeting Date: December
15, 2015 at Southern
California Gas Company ERC

1. JC motion to approve
minutes. ED second.
2. Treasurer items
a. Current balance of
$66,421.
b. Taxes have been filed for
FY14 (2014-2015) via
990-N (e-Postcard).
c. Charitable tax form raised
requirement threshold
($50K and over now)
which we are way under
and did not have to submit
this year.
d. Money went out to Orange
County Engineering
Council.
3. CTTC Chair
a. February meeting set up
for Long Beach Aquarium
on Friday 2/26/2016.
b. JT Schmidts is set for
1/19/2016.
c. Need raffle items/gifts to
give away at January
meeting to promote
membership.
d. Refrigerant speaker (from
parent company
Honeywell) for January
meeting. GS to send JC
speaker bio info.
e. JC to call San Diego
branch to lock a date for
March meeting.

Trade Show (January 2327). I

look forward to seeing some of
you there. There is a dinner for our
region, Region X, on Sunday the
24th. Check the Region X
website (regionx.org) for details.
In February, we are working to
set up dinner and a tour of the
Aquarium of the Pacific in Long
Beach. And, in March, our annual
joint meeting is with San Diego.
See you at the January meeting.
Jeff Conrad
4. Golf Tourney
a. Netted a little over $16K
for this years golf tourney.
b. 144 people registered.
Best turn out to date.
c. Need to get course
reserved for next year.
$1500 deposit required
now. JC motion to
approve. All approved.
5. YEA Events
a. Solar decathlon had about
18 people, with a couple
of new student prospects.
b. Middle of Jan event at
Tavern Bowl scheduled
tentatively.
c. YEA Leadership meeting
Feb 19-21, 2016. Bryson
to bring it up to cover cost
of sending someone.
6. Newsletter Chair
a. Need a tech article for
December or January.
b. Pricing structure for
December joint meeting to
be established. Rates to
be $50/person.
c. Jan pricing for JT
Schmidts to be $45/$40.
7. RP Chair
a. Gave us a $3K credit for
last year applied to this
year.
b. Everyone contributed to
(See NOVEMBER MINUTES page 3)

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NOVEMBER MINUTES
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full circle, got our points

for that. They want us at
30% by end of December.
c. Vote to send (2) $4000
checks. One for RP and
one for endowment. JC
motion to approve, SR
second, all approve.
d. Need to push a
scholarship this year. $3K

allocated in the budget.

8. January to be membership
and student night.
9. JC to do a roster reminder at
tonights meeting. Also, to
make people aware of the
website changes.
10. JS to hand out thank you
certificates.
11. JC move to close. JS second.
END OF MINUTES
Greg Glover

Register for the 2016

Winter Conference!
January 23-27

Orlando Hilton, Orlando, Florida

AHR Expo January 25-27

Orange County Convention
Center, Orlando, Florida

Learn more at
www.ashrae.org/orlando

Why Choose a UL508A Certified Contractor? by Craig Hofferber

Find out what a UL508A
certification means, and why its
crucial to your control panel! But
what does that mean and why
should you care?
UL508A refers to the
internationally recognized
standard for industrial control
panel design, officiated and
verified by Underwriters
Laboratories an American
worldwide safety and certification
company. UL508A specifically
pertains to a set of regulations for
control panels intended for
general use that operate on 600
volts or less and in an
environment that does not exceed
40C, or 104F.
In a nutshell, these
requirements ensure that the
components composing an
assembled control panel perform
optimally, safely, and contain
proper circuit protection that
prevents arc flash explosions.
Unfortunately, the follow-through
is much more complicated. This
is the year when a major change
occurred in our industrys
standards for component safety
and regulation. The revised
UL508A statute decreed that

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control panel builders shall begin

including short circuit current
ratings on the panel assemblies.
While this new mandate would
undoubtedly increase the users
safety by promoting good
practice with proper components
and uniform wiring practice, it
became a difficult task for most
control panel builders to
accurately establish these shortcircuit ratings. Control panel
builders generally dont possess
the finances, equipment, or
special engineering expertise to
run short-circuit tests for each
and every piece of equipment
from a myriad of component
manufacturers to determine a
uniform standard.
So, what did they do?
They consulted the
manufacturers directly: Hey, does

Part A work with Part B if X

amount of current runs through it
for Y amount of time? Yes? Life
is good!
Due to the nearly limitless
combination of parts and
equipment utilized in control
panels, this led to an
overwhelming index of catalogued
component compatibilities and
ratings. Rather than continue to
add onto this daunting thousandpage spreadsheet, U.L. enabled
manufacturers to create a new
category for parts used in the
power circuit of a control panel,
aptly called component shortcircuit current ratings. What this
did was help simplify the process
of identifying compatible
components when building a
control panel by integrating a
generic formula (Part A will
function with Part B under X and
Y voltage/amps.)
The tricky part of obtaining a
UL508A panel shop certification
is learning to treat each industrial
control panel as a unique
monster; no two panels are alike,
no two set-ups are identical.
There are various factors (such as
(See WHY CERTIFIED? page 4)

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WHY CERTIFIED?
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enclosed or open-type panels,

voltage ratings, and so forth) that
require experience and expertise
in order to build the optimal
control panel unique to your
application.
The easiest way to avoid
problems with high short-circuit
currents is to eliminate the higher
current potential via foreign
sources entering the control
panel and operate the controls
using current limited Class 2
transformer circuits such as 24
VAC. By leaving the higher
voltage with potentially higher
fault current capable circuits out
of the control panel, minimal
danger exists from creating an
arc-flash inside the panel. A
simple matter of providing
interposing relays at the points of
control where higher voltages
and currents are present isolate
these foreign sources and the
fault currents they might generate
through a fault current in a
control panel.

conversion inside the control

panel can provide the proper
voltages for digital control panel
elements manufactured today.
Final control elements such as
electric damper and valve
actuators would also have
separate disconnecting means
and if needed, low voltage
transformers to power them with,
limiting the control panel current
to that needed to power
interposing relays and control

signal outputs (0-10 VDC or 4-20

mA DC) for position command
and status purposes.
Control panel builders having
the U.L 508A or newer listing
maintained are in tune with these
options and can provide safe and
effective control panel layouts for
OEM, commercial, industrial or
residential application without
extra costs for short-circuit ratings
or other mandated protection
means. END

Why Choose a UL508A

Certified Contractor?
Generally, the electrical
contractor on a job or the control
contractor acting as a primary
electrical contractor providing
power to control panels can just
as easily provide a disconnecting
means and low-voltage
transformer suitable for powering
the control panel devices, field
interposing relays and others. This
keeps the 120 VAC power and its
fault current potential outside the
control panel. Of course to keep
the panel pure, the digital
controller, network switches and
other components inside the
panel must operate on low
voltage. 24 VAC to 24 VDC

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ASHRAE ORANGE EMPIRE CHAPTER

20152016 PARTIAL ROSTER
CHAPTER OFFICERS

COMMITTEES AND CHAIRPERSONS

President . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Conrad

President-Elect . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eric Decker
Vice President . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kenneth Golovko
Treasurer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Derrick Wyka
Secretary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Greg Glover

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

CRC DELEGATE
John Sawyer

CRC ALTERNATE
Jeff Conrad

SPIEL DEADLINE!!
The February deadline
for articles or ads is
FRIDAY,
FEBRUARY 12, 2016!

Craig F. Hofferber
Mike Lynaugh
Stephen J. Rawski, P.E.
John Sawyer
Matthew Waller, P.E.

January 19, 2016

Meeting Location Map
JT SCHMIDS

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Programs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eric Decker

Attendance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Carlon Haywood
Membership Promotion. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Hanzel
Resource Promotion . . . . . . . . . . Michael Garabedian
Student Activities . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bryson Borzini
Refrigeration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Grant Schaffer
Technology Transfer . . . . Ken Golovko/Akshay Grover
Newsletter Editor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Hagstrom
Table Top Displays . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jeff Conrad
Audit . . . Ken Golovko/Craig F. Hofferber/Jeff Conrad
Historian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Craig F. Hofferber
Website . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . David Yancosky
Communications . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . David Yancosky
Golf Tournament. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dan Davitt
GGAC. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Michael Garabedian
YEA Chair(s). . . . . . . . Bryson Borzini/Charlotte Dean

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WINTER /SPRING
2015/16 SCHEDULE
MEETING LOCATION:
HOLIDAY INN

2726 S. Grand Avenue

Santa Ana, CA 92705
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2015

Dinner: The Design / Build Process
Theme: Membership Night
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
OCTOBER 28, 2015
Technical: DDC and FDD Challenges in
California
Dinner: Increased Pump Efficiency Using
Full Size Impellers and The Benefits
of Overspeeding Pumps
Theme: Joint Meeting with ASPE
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
NOVEMBER 17, 2015
Dinner: Tall Building Challenges with
Distinguished Lecturer Peter
Simmonds
Theme: SMACNA Night
Place:
Holliday Inn, Santa Ana
DECEMBER 15, 2015
Dinner: Making Connections
Theme: Joint Meeting with So. California and
Tri-County Chapters
Place:
SoCal Gas ERC, Downey

JANUARY 19, 2016

Dinner: Refrigerants and Regulatory Update
Theme: Refrigeration and Membership Night
J.T. Schmids (Anaheim/Honda
Place:
Center)
FEBRUARY 26, 2016
Technical: TBD
Dinner: TBD
Theme: Research and Past Presidents Night
Place:
Aquarium of the Pacific, Long Beach
MARCH (TBD) 2016
Dinner: TBD
Theme: Joint Meeting with San Diego
Place:
TBD
APRIL 26, 2016
Technical: TBD
Dinner: TBD
Theme: Student Night
Place:
Holiday Inn, Santa Ana
MAY 24, 2016
Theme: Officer and Board Installation
Place:
TBD

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Orange Empire ASHRAE

P.O. Box 15603
Santa Ana, CA 92735

MEETING SUMMARY
TUESDAY,
JANUARY 19, 2016

SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAM

Refrigerants and
Regulatory Update by
Ms. Christina Spalding

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