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Is that all?
When addressed to a drawee, it must be named or otherwise be indicated therein
with reasonable certainty.
Has it complied with all the requirements in section 1?
Yes sir.
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Mr __ do you agree?
Yes sir but I have to qualify. Because we also have to consider that the
instrument must be written on a piece of paper.
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Ms __ do you agree?
I agree that S1s example is negotiable.
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Sec 1 is clear when an instrument is negotiable. It must conform with all the
requirements provided. I told you last meeting that if there is something you need
to memorize in this subject, it is this section. You can use your own words but you
will not get a perfect score because I said memorize word per word. Now, we will
be discussing one by one these elements. Because most of our time in this
subject we will have to identify if the instrument is negotiable or not. Now, number
1 it must be in writing. Mr __ , it must be in writing where?
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Mr __ do you agree?
The book said it could even be a leather. So it can be written anywhere as long
as it is movable.
If I write it here in the table?
Yes sir, by its nature it is movable.
How about in the board?
No sir because it is immovable by incorporation because it is attached to a room.
What is the requirement to be considered to be immovable by incorporation?
When it is put in a manner that it is fixed or permanent.
For example this table here, I will nail it to the platform. Is it immovable?
It must also be primarily needed for the area.
It must be necessary to the industry intended to be used for. You are right that
when you said that this is an immovable property after all this is a whiteboard
used for the school intended for educating students. But, if I remove it will it
comply now with the requirement?
Yes sir. It is not anymore incorporated sir.
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Second, it must be signed by the maker or drawer. What do you mean by that?
Maker is the one who makes the PN; while a drawer is the one that issues a Bill
of Exchange.
Where does the maker or drawer have to sign?
Anywhere On the paper sir. I would like to correct my answer earlier that S2s
example is also correct because even though there is no signature, since it is
handwritten and the letter I represents the maker or drawer so it is considered
signed.
So it is enough to be in handwriting? That automatically make it negotiable?
Yes sir.
so example you will be the one who will compose and I will be the one to be
writing it, will it not comply?
No sir. Because you are the one writing. It must be personally hand written.
Ms. __ do you agree?
No sir. I think it should be if handwritten the signature should still appear in the
PN or BE so that it would be easier to ascertain who the maker or drawer is and
he intends to be bound to what he wrote.
So what is the requirement then?
that he places his full name or surname or initials sir.
If I put heart there? Shaded? Star?
No sir because you will not be able to ascertain who the maker or drawer is if you
put that.
What would then qualify as a signature of the maker?
His name or surname or initial.
So what if you know my name and I write Brad Pitt?
If you intend to be bound by what u wrote in the note.
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Does the use of the word promise should be stated in the promissory note?
Not necessarily sir.
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(Sir writes another example on the board cannot be determined through voice)
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The example is about the payment out of the monthly salary whether it is a
condition?
It is a condition because it is derived from a particular fund.
Is there a legal basis?
Sec. 3. When promise is unconditional. - An unqualified order or promise to
pay is unconditional within the meaning of this Act though coupled with:
(a) An indication of a particular fund out of which reimbursement is to be
made or a particular account to be debited with the amount; or
(b) A statement of the transaction which gives rise to the instrument.
But an order or promise to pay out of a particular fund is not unconditional.
If the sum of your monthly salary is 1k and there is a lack of funds of 500 so it
would be conditioned then from the sufficiency of that particular fund. If it from a
particular fund then it would render it conditional.
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What do you mean by debit? It just means to charge my account. In banks when
they debit they charge your account.
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What if instead of saying on or before July 15, 2016 I would say __ does it make
the promise unconditional?
It is still unconditional because the death of the person is still certain although we
do not know when it happens.
That is right because death is not a condition. It is only a period. It will not make
an instrument unconditional. If I say I promise to pay A or bearer because I owe
him a lot. wil it still be unconditional?
Still unconditional.
Yes it is besides the point diba? Whether how the transaction came about or
whether why I will pay does not make it unconditional. For as long as I am
promising myself to pay you the sum of money. The indication of any source of
the obligation will not make the instrument conditional. It is not setting a condition
on the payment. Still unconditional. There is no really condition imposed there.
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Do u agree?
No it is not a sum certain in money because it may be understood in other
currencies. A sum certain in money means that a holder must know what he will
be receiving upon maturity.
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Okay, you are actually right. That a sum certain in money has to be a calculable
and has to be determinable. But in this type of example you dont know what kind
of currency is used. How can you determine that? The 50k must be in anything. It
is now permissive to use any currency even if the instrument is made here in the
PH. So this is not a sum certain in money. Because you cannot calculate by just
looking at the face of the instrument.
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Do you agree?
It is correct sir because in stated installments: 2 elements must be there:
1) interest of each installment 2) the due date when each installment is due.
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It is actually correct. This is a sum certain in money even if there are stated
installments. So when you say stated installment there has to be indication of the
interest or amount of installment and second the period the installment are due.
For as long as these 2 are present, it would suffice. But if I state it this way :
I promise to pay A or order the amount of php 20,000 in two equal monthly
installments starting July 1, 2016
(Sgd) Isaiah Calumba
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Is this still a sum certain in money? Answer is no because the 2 elements must
be strictly be complied with. The 2nd element (due date of each installment) is not
present.
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Even if it didnt say that incase of nonpayment on maturity date it doesnt matter
because when you say in case of nonpayment when is the instrument due for
payment? On the maturity date. So, in that sense then. The certainty of the sum
or the issue on the negotiability of the instrument only matters up to the date of
maturity. If the instrument has already matured, whatever is the sum, certain or
uncertain, it doesnt matter anymore because in the first place the instrument
cease to be nonnegotiable the moment it has already matured. Theres no
question anymore whether its negotiable or not. Automatic, its rendered
nonnegotiable by the fact that its already at its maturity date. So, whether theres
indication of collection of attorneys fees there, it doesnt matter. Yes, supposedly
it renders the amount uncertain, you cannot determine how much it IS. Whether
theres percentage or theres no percentage, supposedly you cannot determine it.
It doesnt matter because its already after the maturity of the instrument - where
the issue of negotiability or non-negotiability is irrelevant because in the first
place, in its commercial sense, the instrument is already non-negotiable. So
theres no need to burden ourselves to determine whether its negotiable or not. It
doesnt matter once the instrument has already matured. So, the cost of
collection and attorneys fees doesnt matter anymore. Because they are due for
payment only after the maturity of instrument, thats why its considered not to
affect the certainty of the sum. But if its really provided there that if the cost of
collection and attorneys fees due to me even before the maturity date of the
instrument which doesnt make sense, now thats a different story because then
it will render the sum really uncertain. Because youll still have to contend the
issue of negotiability because the amount is still payable before the maturity of
the instrument. So, it only matters then, the issue of negotiability up to the
maturity date. If its after the maturity date, it will not matter anymore. Thats why
it is still a sum certain in money because were only looking at the instrument up
to its maturity date, after that, it will not matter.
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S: regarding the 2 monthly equal installments, if I place there 2 consecutive monthly
equal installments will it settle whether its certain or not?
A: No, because you would still not know when the second installment will be. Even if you
stated, 2 monthly consecutive installment, starting July 1 if I pay on August 2? Will it still
not be consecutive? So, you will still not know when the 2nd installment is due for payment.
So, you should always indicate when each installment is due for payment because the
requirement for stated installment.
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