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PRESENTER: In that case, if the concept of time is just a moment, then the day, year or
century we experience take place in a single moment.
ADNAN OKTAR: Of course.
PRESENTER: Can we think of it like this? Let us lock someone in a room; let us organize a
false sunrise and sunset and eliminate the concept of time. You have described this very well
in your documentaries. Shall we expand a bit?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, that person will definitely not realize; meaning that we can tell him
anything in such a position. For example, if we put someone to sleep, artificially with
anesthetics and then tell him that 4 years have gone by., if we show him newspapers from 4
years later, show him the cuttings from them and say, you were unconscious, then he will
certainly believe it. He will regard it as quite reasonable.
PRESENTER: Yes, this is a rather interesting subject; there is a saying about this, as time
healing all wounds.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
PRESENTER: When they say that time heals all wounds, are they acting out of that belief
they form in their heads?
ADNAN OKTAR: Sorrows and fears may arise, but time makes one forget them. They come
and go in time; but this is given to the brain as a perception. And it is Allah that makes them
forget these things; otherwise time could never heal anything.
ADNAN OKTAR: In other words, it is a cause; it works like a drug there. That person uses
time as a cause, as a kind of drug. And it happens under the effect of that drug.
PRESENTER: I am learning very interesting matters, by way of you. Now, we have so many
questions and comments; time and space were created with matter.
ADNAN OKTAR: True.
PRESENTER: Shall we expand a little?
ADNAN OKTAR: At first, 15 billion years ago. Scientists say, There was neither time nor
space. But they talk about matter in order to clarify this; zero volume. Nothing. Then, they
say, there was something infinitely dense. They say the universe formed when that exploded.
In other words, they are in agreement with the account in the Quran. In the Quran Almighty
Allah says that He created the universe out of nothing. They have come to agree with what the
Quran says. And it formed within a single moment. Time and space came into being in a
moment with that explosion. In other words, the universe took shape in a matter of seconds, or
microseconds. Time began after that. There was no time or space before it.
PRESENTER: Nothing at all.
ADNAN OKTAR: Only Allah.
PRESENTER: After that we are now living in time and space. We can describe life as a
theater stage prepared for us. We all live out our destinies.
ADNAN OKTAR: Time is of course a form of perception. It is a belief of the brain. A belief
arising in the brain. There is no time on the outside. It is entirely relative. Einstein described
this comprehensively and says scientists were terrified when they realized the truth about
matter. Physicists are actually aware of this. They know how time and space are a form of
perception. This depends on ones perception. Matter exists on the outside, but human beings
have direct experience of its image, and whatever they see, that is what it is to them. That is
why it is relative. You asked this question about time. I said this at this moment. I also
mentioned that you asked a question regarding time. We make a comparison of the space
between them in our minds. That is time for us.
Mr. ADNAN OKTAR'S LIVE INTERVIEW ON KANAL 67 Z (ZONGULDAK)
(22 March 2009)
ADNAN OKTAR: It is described in the Quran how the Prophet Adam (pbuh) was created.
ADNAN OKTAR: Almighty Allah creates an entity like a statue from a substance resembling
porcelain and says He breathed His spirit into it and that it then came to life.
ADNAN OKTAR: He says He gave it a soul. Now, during Almighty Allah is doing this, the
Prophet Adam (pbuh) is already in paradise and at the same time in the world. In other words,
there is but a single moment in the Sight of Allah. They imagine that Allah was all alone, and
that He waited and waited and one day had the idea of creating man, surely Allah is beyond
that! The fact is, however, that Almighty Allah existed before and after all eternity. He created
and finished with everything in a single moment. For example, the Prophet Adam (pbuh) was
already in the world as Almighty Allah prepared the clay for him and shaped him out of clay;
he was already living at that moment. And he was in paradise at the same time. In other
words, there is but one single moment and Allah creates it all in our brains, in peoples brains,
as an image.
ADNAN OKTAR: We ask to the scientists about the Creation of the world. We ask how it
happened. Scientists say that there was something of zero volume, note that, zero volume, and
that the universe formed when that exploded. That is true. We ask what was there before that,
and they say nothing. Neither time, nor space, they say. Instantaneous time and space Now
zero volume means nothing. In describing it, they talk about an atom the size of a pin head,
but even an atom like that has volume.
ADNAN OKTAR: They say zero volume. They say something else infinite density. They
say it suddenly exploded and that time and space formed as a result. What does that mean? It
means Allah is One.
ADNAN OKTAR:: Let me tell you this, so you can understand it better. We have lived all our
eternal lives in a single moment, not even a second, in the Sight of Allah. It is all over with. It
is finished, and all for the best. It is finished with goodness and wisdom. That being the case,
what need any rational Muslim be worried about or fearful of? A Muslim can fear nothing but
Allah.
revealed by scientists who say there is just a single moment. Everyone knows that. Ask
anyone what it means for there to be a single moment, and they will say destiny. There is no
alternative.
ADNAN OKTAR: For one thing, there is no explanation for the energy involved in their
revolving around one another for millions of years. This is a huge miracle. They have been
revolving round one another as long as the Earth has been around. The process started and the
revolution has been continuing, magnificently and at the very highest speed, ever since. They
orbit at a speed of 50,000 revolutions a second. That means a huge force, and they never stray
from their paths. Let us consider the iron atom. Someone hits it with a hammer. Under normal
conditions the electrons in it should fly apart under the effect of centrifugal force. But in no
way does it get affected by it. Allah has brought it into being with a huge power. There is a
complete void between them. Indeed, that is what scientists say. They say that the eye
perceives matter as a solid whole, but that is not actually the case at all. Scientists say that
matter is transparent. Because there is so much empty space between the proton - where the
nucleus exists - and the electron. In other words, between the nucleus -where neutron and
proton inhere - and the electron there is a huge empty space. It is as if the nucleus is here and
the electron is as far away as the Bahcelievler district of Istanbul. That is the kind of amazing
distance. That is why matter in fact has a transparent structure just like a colander. Scientists
say we can effectively disregard what is on the outside; it is 99.9% empty. But scientists say
the eye perceives it as solid. They say there is no light on the outside. Only light waves. But
that is how the eye perceives it, they say. How the brain perceives it. They say there is no
sound on the outside, only sound waves. But that is again how the brain perceives it. That is
how it perceives matter. And they say there is no time on the outside. That is just how the
brain perceives time, they say. There is also no time outside. That establishes a really
marvelous and metaphysical state of affairs. It is really, really astonishing. This regularity in
the atom, this extraordinary effort it makes which has no petrol or anything to run on. Atoms
receive no energy from anywhere. They have been set in motion and never stray from their
paths. How can this happen? Eighty or ninety electrons all revolve around a tiny nucleus,
50,000 times a second, at a speed of thousands of kilometers an hour. But they never normally
hit one another. All people regard this as if this is something very ordinary. Just a single atom
is a very great miracle. For instance, we are currently touching this object. But touching is not
possible. There is actually no touching going on at all. There is repulsion in the structure of
atoms. When we touch something, for instance, the electrons in our finger tips and those out
there repel one another. But we never make direct contact with what we are touching. This
feeling of touch stems from one of repulsion. That is, it stems from repulsion. We perceive
that feeling of touch because of repulsion. This is not something that is very well known. In
other words, no two pieces of matter can touch one another, as they repel one another. We
touched here, a sensation of touch formed, but that stemmed from repulsion. It stems from a
powerful sense of repulsion. We imagine we touch things. But we really dont. Allah has
created such wondrous things to bring this about. If people could see at the very smallest,
most minute level, just the structure of the atom would easily be sufficient to lead people to
faith. In other words, there is a glorious system and a glorious world. Iron, aluminum
and magnesium all have different systems.
MR. ADNAN OKTARS LIVE INTERVIEW ON KRAL KARADENZ TV 30 MARCH
2009
ADNAN OKTAR: For example, Fred Alan Wolf from the University of California says,
You might realize that life on planet as we live it is really a surprise, considering just how
empty the universe really is. In fact, the universe is more than 99 percent nothing! And
considering that the universe is still expanding at an alarming rate, its getting to be more
nothing than it ever was! 99.999 % recurring. And considering that the universe is still
expanding at an alarming rate, its getting to be more nothing than it ever was! In other
words, under normal conditions the universe is transparent, he says. All scientists are in
agreement on that. Because of the structure of the atom. Peter Russell from the Cambridge
University Department of Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, for instance, says, But what
I am actually experiencing is not the tree itself, only the image that appears in the mind. The
tree exists he says, but I deal with an image of it. This is true of everything I experience.
Everything we know, perceive, and imagine, every color, sound, sensation, every thought and
every feeling, is a form appearing in the mind. In other words, it exists on the outside, but the
mind brings it into being, he says. The mind shapes it, he says. The green we see is a quality
appearing in the mind in response to this frequency of light. All there is on the outside is
waves. Waves belonging to an image. We see this as green inside our brains. He says, Youre
holding a magazine. It feels solid; it seems to have some kind of independent existence in
space. Ditto the objects around youperhaps a cup of coffee, a computer. They all seem real
and out there somewhere. But its all an illusion. In other words, the original exists on the
outside, but we only experience a figment of it. Anyone knowing this can easily understand
the truth about matter. He will know how easily Allah has created and will create.
ADNAN OKTAR: Allah makes things expand and contract. All power is under Allahs
control. We live in a space in our brains the size of a lentil. We live according to whatever that
low voltage electricity shows us inside that space. Allah shows us a world through that
electricity. He shows us a bright, shiny world. Allah shows us pitch dark sunlight as bright
light inside the darkness of our brains. Allah tells us in the Quran that He also creates
shadow. Shadow and light are created separately. He says this in the Quran, He says He
creates shadow independently, and this is a great miracle. In other words, the separate
Creation of light and shade, and people inescapably think of shadow. But shadow is specially
created, created to give depth to objects. It does not form three-dimensionally then. Three
dimensions is Allahs artistry. It is Allahs artistry to show objects as three-dimensional.
Because we watch the world as a very high-quality three-dimensional image in a space in our
brains the size of a lentil. That clarity is far greater than that obtained through any scientific
research or technology. Allah applies a most perfect artistry. I mean that tens of thousands of
engineers bring hundreds of thousands of technical components together and work night and
day, but have never yet produced such a quality of image. For example, I am watching you
and you are in my brain; your watch and mine are in the same place in my brain. There are
two watches...
4- WE CAN NEVER HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF THE WORLD THAT
FORMS IN OUR BRAINS
MR. ADNAN OKTARS LIVE INTERVIEW ON VATAN TV 15 MARCH 2009
ADNAN OKTAR: Modern physics of course identified these matters before. Scientists say
that the worlds existence is a metaphysical one, that the whole universe is perceived inside
peoples brains and that the physicists were terrified to realize that there is no time and space
in the real sense. This is not something they tell the public about much, it is not something
they want to tell the public about. For example, there is no sunlight on the outside. The sun is
dark, black, but people see it as very bright. There is not a sound on the outside, only waves,
but people perceive these as music, sound and speech. It is the same with the sense of touch,
and smell. There are no smells on the outside, only chemical gasses, molecules in other
words, moving freely about, and these come to the nose where the nerves convert them into
an electric current. In other words, the nerves that perceive scent turn it into an electric
current, and that then goes off to the brain. People then perceive this as smell inside their
brains, though there are no smells on the outside. In other words, images are dark and black,
and there are no sounds or smells, but people still perceive a brightly colored world. No one
has ever seen the original of matter on the outside. And it is impossible to do so, because the
outside is pitch black. So even if they did see it, they would still see nothing and would still
have to see it in their brains. All events, and consciousness, arise in a place the size of a grain
of lentil or rice. We see a very weak electric current there as the world, as the universe.
Nobody has ever seen the original of matter on the outside. We only have dealings with its
image.
ADNAN OKTAR: Diseases, scourges, problems and attacks are a great blessing. They give
Muslims maturity and depth and draw them closer to Allah. Allah creates them deliberately.
Disease is created as a miracle in that space the size of a lentil. Medicines are also created as a
miracle. Allah creates those tiny pills in our brains. We swallow that pill, and it is a prayer.
The pill has no effect, but Allah uses it as His instrument. And thus people are cured. For
example, Allah shows us as drinking water, and we enjoy the quenching sensation that comes
from it. Allah creates the image of water. Water does exist on the outside, but we can never
drink the original of it. One receives the impression of water and drinking. Also one can never
eat the original of what one eats. One always has experience of an image of food, of electrical
currents belonging to smell and taste. One can never have direct experience of the originals.
When we look at food on the table we are looking at food on the table in our brains. We can
never look at the original food on the table. The originals are there on the outside, but only
Allah knows them. We can never know the originals on the outside and can not know them for
all eternity. Only Allah knows the originals on the outside.
Mr. ADNAN OKTARS LIVE INTERVIEW ON KANAL 35 (IZMIR)
(14 February 2009)
ADNAN OKTAR: For example, people look at the Sun outside and say how bright it is and
how magnificent. But the Sun outside is in fact the Sun in the brain. The Sun is pitch black.
ADNAN OKTAR: The Sun just emits waves. Our brains perceive them as light. As bright
light. When we look at spotlights we say how powerful they are. But spotlights are also pitch
black. We perceive the waves they emit as light and color. There is no color on the outside.
ADNAN OKTAR: Our brains also interpret different wavelengths as color. And there are no
smells on the outside. Our brains interpret those chemical vibrations in that way. When we
talk about the scent of a rose, there is a chemical cloud; a diluted chemical cloud. Those
chemicals reach the cells in the nose. An electric current then forms. And our brains perceive
that electric current as scent. But there is no such scent on the outside.
ADNAN OKTAR: It is the same with sound. One hears a very loud sound. That is just a
vibration. Our ears receive them as sound. Everywhere is full of radio waves, for instance.
Thousands of radio waves exist in everywhere. If our brains received them all we would have
seen them.
PRESENTER: An orange, for example. When we close our eyes we see an image of the
orange, as if it were right there before us. In fact we recall the taste prior to the image.
ADNAN OKTAR: For one thing, there is no Sun. There is no brightness in that sense. There
is the Sun, but no brightness; the Sun just emits waves in the form of darkness. And we
perceive those waves as light and heat. In other words, heat is a perception, and there is no
such thing as heat. It is something arising from vibrations. We perceive this vibration as heat.
It is the brains perception.
it is again Allah Who creates it all. And it is Allah Who enables you to find the truth. You
must first see the metaphysical nature of the world for that. If a person is asked why Allah
created this whole diversity of living things and their classifications within this metaphysical
existence, it is to make people think wisely. It is very important to make people reflect.
ADNAN OKTAR: It is the truth. It is a clear truth that both atheists and believers must
accept. Nobody can deny it. This is a fact that all the scientists unanimously agree on. In
addition, it is not a materialist view, but rather one that does away with materialism. It is the
idea that Lenin was most worried about. Lenin did not want people even to think about it or
research or debate on it. It is what Marxists are most worried about. It is the subject that
materialism is most hesitant over, and it is a fact. No matter how much they try to avoid the
truth, it is still an evident reality that everyone will agree on.
ADNAN OKTAR: For example, do you think this glass in my hand was created by chance,
or was there an artist behind it? You will certainly say there was an artist. You will say that
definitely human beings made it. But human beings do not make it in your brain, Allah does.
You see me and all this technical equipment or that service cart over there. If anyone asks you
will say that these were definitely manufactured by someone. But they are being shown to you
by Allah in your brain. No factory can have these things shown you in your brain. No
company, no research group or scientist can form that image in your brain. A power creates
this image in your brain. We call the Power Who creates this in your brain Allah. I use
guarded language when I explain this in order not to panic people. If I explain it at length in a
bald language someone hearing me may be seized by a terrible panic, so I use very careful
language and explain it slowly in a manner people can understand. Otherwise, it will be
impossible for anyone not to believe in Allah in the face of this reality. Whilst a person is
sane, there is no alternative other than believing in Allah. For example, they make my watch
in a factory; many engineers and technicians work hard to do so. There are two watches, the
material one and the one in my brain. I am unable to have direct experience of the material
one. I only have direct experience of the one in my brain. There is a power that shows it to me
in my brain. For me, the real watch is the one in my brain, not the one outside made in the
factory. In other words, there is one real watch, the one I see in my brain, but that is not made
in a factory. The Power that makes it is Allah. We never have direct experience of the watch
made in the factory. We experience the watch we see in our brains. That is the thing we refer
to as the watch, the real watch. That is an evident fact, one that nobody can deny. That is the
reality of this world. Materialists are terrified by it, but it is a reality they can never escape.
No matter how much they may deny it, they are still denying it in an image in their brains.
None can escape that reality.
MR. ADNAN OKTARS AMERICAN PUBLIC TV INTERVIEW
(19 December 2008)
ADNAN OKTAR: When you look at the Sun or the Moon you are looking at the Sun or
Moon inside your brain. You cannot see the Sun or Moon on the outside. When you look at
the world, when you look at a window outside, you see the view inside your brain. You cannot
see what is on the outside. Only Allah knows what exactly lies outside. There is matter on the
outside, but we experience images of it, not the original. Therefore, Allah creates every
species in Creation, everything as images in our brains. The originals do exist on the outside,
but we deal with images of them. For example, you and I appear to be sitting at a distance
from one another, but my watch and your watch are created in the same place in your brain. If
you rub your eyes a little, my image and your will move around. That is clear evidence we are
dealing with an image of matter. But the image is so clear and high quality and threedimensional that we imagine we are dealing with the real thing. The fact is, however, that this
is a deception stemming from the clarity of the image. Allah has created us in this way with a
superb artistry. And it is absolutely amazing. The world is only just beginning to grasp this
great reality.
ADNAN OKTAR: For example, there is a mild breeze here at the moment. I am drinking
lime tea, and touching it, I have a feeling of distance and of heat. Your voice is coming from a
distance, it is coming three-dimensionally. I also see you in three-dimensions. How come does
one avoid believing this? You are very clear and sharp in my brain. The tea is also in my
brain, and the spotlights, and these books and everything are all in my brain. And they all
form in a very tiny space.
PRESENTER: It is just the size of a lentil, isnt it?
ADNAN OKTAR: But this is Allahs artistry. It is a great artistry. Light and shade are created
separately, for instance. This is set out in the Quran. Shadow is created separately, though
people imagine it forms because of light. Both are created separately. Allah creates light and
shadow separately. Shadow is a distinct artistry of Allahs. Objects take form through shadow.
They would look very different if there were no shade. The feeling of depth and many other
beauties are all the result of shade. Otherwise there would just be a single plane. It will be
very useful for people to be generally aware of this. Though it is no crime for it to be
forgotten, of course. But it is a crime to forget Allah. Allah must not be forgotten. We must
always know that Allah creates everything. Otherwise, may Allah forbid, people may find
themselves in a state of idolatry, saying how well they have done this or that, for instance. But
you cannot do anything. What can someone who watches an electric current in a tiny little
space that has the size of a lentil really do? He says he has built factories and plants. But does
he know where he has actually said that? If he were to see he said in that tiny little space that
has the size of a lentil he might collapse and have to sit down to get over that dreadful terror.
But he is unaware of it, and says he has built these plants and factories. But just press on your
eyeballs a bit and what happens to all those facilities? They move backward and forward.
Then you will clearly see they are all in your brain and that nobody can build any factories.
Allah gives you an image of them in your brain. Allah makes all facilities. Nobody else can
make them. Nobody can do anything. They say they have built protein in a laboratory. But
when we ask what laboratory, it is the laboratory in the brain. In what tiny space? In the size
of a lentil. They have produced the laboratory in a part of that space the size of a lentil no
bigger than one or half a micron.
MR. ADNAN OKTARS LIVE INTERVIEW ON TEMPO TV
(20 JANUARY 2009)
ADNAN OKTAR: This subject is the greatest miracle that has ever been seen. It is a huge
phenomenon, but some people fail to comprehend it properly and some just ignore it, while
those who do understand it are left breathless. It is a huge issue. For example, I am talking to
you now. Your image and mine, the clothes I am wearing, are forming in the same space in
my brain. This is a really huge miracle, for two people to be in the same space. If you tell
people this they will wonder how it can be possible and will say it is a great miracle. And we
are living this great miracle at every moment. We see the electric current reaching the brain as
a human being, as objects, as the world, as light and color. The electricity which arrives to that
tiny space in the brain has a low amount of ampere. Indeed it has a very low power. And we
see this as a perfect three dimensional phenomenon with depth. When we put an image onto a
lens we have difficulty establishing a sharp image. Even if one has a perfect lens the image
will still be rather vague and ordinary. The eye is filled with fluid, and light passes through
that fluid, and it is transmitted to the brain as an electric current. I am summarizing here, of
course. And we see this electric current as people and the world. We see cars and go to school
and sit at our exams. When a student is listening to a lecture in the lecture hall, he is seeing
the hall in his brain. He listens to the lecturer in his brain, and cannot listen to the lecturer on
the outside. There is a teacher on the outside, but he cannot see him. There is a lecture hall on
the outside, but he does not see that. The lecture hall is shrunk, really shrunk, inside his brain,
and the brain shows him an enlarged model of it. It shows it to him as being very large. Since
the space in the brain where it forms is very small and the electric current is very low, it is
obvious that the image produced by that electric current will also be very small. Something
infinitesimal.