GUJAR KHAN PROGRAM

QUESTION ANSWER SESSION WITH

HIS HOLINESS RIAZ AHMED GOHAR SHAHI

Ayud Billahi Mina-shaitan Nal-Rajeem.

I seek refuge and protection in Allah from Satan, the accursed

Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi.

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

First of all, As-Salāmu `Alaykum (peace be upon) to all. These people (followers of His
Holiness) had organized this gathering for speech. Now if I delivered the speech, I would
have done it with my own will (I would have said what I want to say). So, I asked them to
arrange questions & answers session, so that audiences may ask whatever they want to.

Yes…repeat your question.

Question: Allah says in the Holy Quran that “not even a single leaf can move without my
permission”. So, Sarkar, "are sins committed by Man also by Allah’s consent"?

Answer: Now, a leaf cannot move, without wind it does not move also. This (wind) is a cause.
There are some sins which have been written by Allah in fate. While sins of Prophets are
not written, they (Prophets) are innocent. Everyone except them has his/her sins written
due to which he/she remains humble (submissive). Those sins which are written, they are
Taqdir-e-azal (the Eternal or the one bound to happen) which must bound to happen. Yes, if
your Murshid/Spiritual guide is Kamil (Perfect) then He will convert those sins into your
dreams. Now the question arises that why He (Allah) should hold us accountable for sins
which are written in our destiny? He has written and these are in Taqdir-e-azal (the Eternal
or the one bound to happen). The sins which you will commit, written in Taqdir-e- Maollaq
(Conditional or in Abeyance) are subject to accountability. Therefore, you will be held
accountable for the sins you will commit. Now since Man is unaware as which sins have been
written (by God) and which sins man will commit? That is why it is necessary to make effort
to avoid committing sins. But what is bound to happen has to happen. Once Prophet Moses
asked Allah about His most favorite kind of worship. Allah replied, “You wouldn’t be able to
do that”. Musa asked why? Allah said, “Because when a man cries after committing a sin, I
like it most. But you are free from sin, so how can you cry?”

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Question: Sarkar, Prophet Muhammad (SAW) prayed to Allah “to increase my knowledge”
(Rab-e-Zidni-Ilma). Sarkar, what was that knowledge for which Prophet Muhammad prayed?

Answer: One kind of knowledge is that, by which walis (saints) use to go or Prophet
Muhammad (SAW) went. With apparent/physical body Prophet Muhammad (SAW) went and
Walis use to prepare their souls to go. Now, they cross through Sidra-tul-Muntaha (stage
which is climax of approach of Archangel Gabriel) and go even beyond this. They can also
reach Muqam-e-Mehmood (Station of Mehmood). When they approach Muqam-e-Mehmood,
Allah sits there, and He meets them there. Whatever is beyond that, nobody goes there.
Everybody at this stage pray for the knowledge that is beyond this stage? For which nobody
knows.

Question: Imam Mahdi will have a Seal of Mahdiat on His back with Kalma. It can be
disrespectful if such an honorable personality is asked show that Seal. Then Sarkar, how
that Seal would be shown or can be seen?

Answer: Who ever will declare himself to be Imam Mahdi, He has to show (seal). If he
claims then why He is not showing!

Question: Sarkar, Imam Mahdi will have miracles (karamat) by which people from every
religion will recognize him. On the other hand, Dajjal will also have powers e.g. resurrecting
the dead. How a believer of miracles (karamat) can distinguish between miracles
(karamat) of Mahdiat and trick of Dajjal?

Answer: No, differentiation is utterly not possible. Thief recognizes a thief, noor(divine
light) recognizes noor. Two thieves sitting close to each other will recognize each other by
eyes. Momins (a person having divine light in the heart) siting before each other will have
attraction because of their hearts. People of Heart, those who will be having Noor in their
hearts will recognize Imam Mahdi, while those who have Satan in their hearts will support
Satan. Or those people, these religions are created in this World; it was not there up on
heavens, there was only Love. So, whoever loved Allah there in primordial times wherever
they went i.e. in Hindus or infidel will follow Mahdi naturally. That is why those people, non-
Muslims and Muslims also will support Imam Mahdi. But devilish powers will be against them.
Just like Imam Mahdi will be given all powers of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), likewise Dajjal
will have full powers of Satan.

Any other question…

Question: Sarkar …this is Stephen Masih from Daska, Sialkot. He has asked two
questions. When and where will Prophet (Jesus) Isaa (AS) appear and how he will be
recognized? Second question is that Isaa (AS) and Imam Mahdi will preach together…when
this would happen?

Answer: First of all how would you recognize Isaa (AS) if he comes here? Even if
Allah comes here you will negate His appearance here. Saying that “don’t know who came

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down”. Imam Mahdi will confirm Jesus Isaa (AS) “that He is Isaa (Jesus) and Jesus Issa
(AS) where he is working he will tell to his followers that about Mahdi”.

Question: Sarkar …we came to know that Imam Mahdi is neither a prophet nor a wali…what
exactly is His rank (stature)?

Answer: Yes…this is true. Prophethood has been finished, after Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
there are no more prophets. And neither He (Mahdi) is in Walayia (Sainthood). If He (Imam
Madhi) would have been Wali (Saint) then why would He be called “Alaihis-Salaam”, He is
neither a prophet nor a wali. As Khizar (AS) is “Naqeeb-e-awaliya”, similarly Mahdi (AS)
wouldn’t be a prophet but it is said he will be a Peer/Spiritual guide of a prophet. Has there
been any Peer/Spiritual guide of Prophets ever before? People say Isaa (AS) will take oath
of allegiance (Bait) from Mahdi (AS). As prophets do not have Peer/Spiritual guide what you
would call Him? Imam Mahdi will be Peer/Spiritual guide of prophet. He himself would be
neither wali nor prophet. What will be his Status? You can assume His status
yourself. Actually one day Allah thought how would He looked like. The moment He thought
this a reflection appeared in front of Him. That reflection became a soul. That reflection
became a soul. Now, your reflection is lifeless while reflection of Allah turned into a soul.
Allah became lover of that Soul and that Soul became lover of Allah. Then
Allah shook/waved seven more times and seven more souls came into being. First soul is
closest to Allah which on his right side. Next is the soul of Fatima (RZA), then the souls of
Hassan Basari (RHA), Ghaus Pak (Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jalani), Sultan Sahib (Hazrat Sultan
bahu) and other souls. And soul of Mahdi (AS) is right beside Allah on His left side. He
(Prophet Muhammad) is on the right while He (Mahdi AS) is on the left side. They
are very close to each other.

Question: Sarkar …what is the quantity of inner/spiritual and apparent zikr (chanting)?

Answer: About their quantity. Prayers/Salats are obligatory for everyone. Only five are
obligatory prayers, if anybody does not offer prayer, it is his/her own will. But beyond this
there is a stage of Zakooriat (Chanting the name of Allah) and it has specific number. It is
order for ordinary person, just like it is order for prayers; in the same way it is also
instructed to do zikr. 5000 time daily zikr if you are punctual in five time prayers. If you
are a Maulvi (cleric) do zikr 25000 times daily, only then you will be superior to the person
doing 5000 times. If you want to become Qutab or Abdaal do zikr for 72000 times daily. If
you wish to be passionate Lover of Allah do zikr for 125000 times a day. 125000 times is
the quantity, only those people can achieve this stage of 125000 times whose heartbeats
chant Allah’s name. These (heartbeats) can be up to 6000 times in one hour and can exceed
more than 125000 times a day. At the time of the victory of Mecca, hearts of the
Companions of the Prophet approached the stage of 125000 times. At that time the verse
was revealed "We (Allah) have forgiven all your sins". This verse is for every age. Even
today if anyone’s heart approaches at 125,000; swear of Allah, Allah will forgive his/her all
previous and coming sins. This is called Zikr-e-Qalb…this continues while sleeping, it

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continues while walking, it continues while working. For this it has some
techniques/methods…learn those techniques/methods and try it yourself.

Yes…next question.

Question: Sarkar … question is that a wali (saint) of Allah does not has any fear. Why do
you have these guards?

Answer: First of all, Hazart Ali was, hand of Allah was upon him, wasn’t Allah’s hand upon
him? Then why Allah gave sword to Hazrat Ali? Wasn’t Allah’s caring enough? After
that there were four companions who always remained with Prophet Muhammad (SAW) with
their naked swords. Just like pride for woman is in jewelry, similarly, pride of a man is in
sword…otherwise they couldn’t save me. When time of death will come, will die. What they
can do for me…change tyre of vehicle if punctured. Otherwise, this is their own passion, I
don’t pay them; they themselves come behind me. And I also think that…ok…maybe Allah
reward them for this. That is why they came close to me, came in my eyes.

Yes…next.

Question: After Prophethood of Hazart Muhammad (SAW) all doors of Prophethood are
closed. But when Hazart Imam Mahdi (AS) will arrive…would all doors of
Wilaya (Sainthood) will be closed? Please explain.

Answer: Just like Hazart Muhammad (SAW) was the last prophet, similarly Imam Mahdi will
be the last wali…after him wilaya (Sainthood) will be over. Then this world would have no
right (to exist). If world is existing it is only because of these Sultans. The day Sultans cease to
exist, this world would be no more.

Question: Will the Aulias (Saints) on duty keep on performing their duties at that time?

Answer: When this process will come to an end…everything will be finished. Then only
Qayamat (doomsday) will come.

Question: When exactly Imam Mahdi and Jesus/Isaa (AS) will appear?

Answer: They have already appeared. People close to them started recognizing them.
Whoever is getting closer to them start’s recognizing them, and their number is increasing.

Question: Who created the effigy of Adam? It is said some clay was left behind…what
happened to that?

Answer: Allah did not make it with His own hands. He ordered to Angles they made the
effigy of Adam. Thereafter the remaining clay become date (Date Palm) …that is why it is
called aunty of Adam and that is why date is associated with Man.

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Question: Is it possible to have vision of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) without purifying the
Self? Is it also necessary to purify Nafs/self for vision of other prophets and
walis (saints)?

Answer: This is the lesson for Man to purify his self first. Because as long as self is
polluted, no pure thing can stay within. Now, if your self is polluted, no matter how
many prayers you offer or read Quran, nothing will remain within. Quran does not ask to
offer prayer/salat but to establish prayer/salat…and you… you only offer prayer. While
offering prayer you become momin and the moment you finish it you revert to that same
worldly tricks. This is not instructed. It is instructed to establish prayer/salat so that it
may penetrate within you. So that when you offer prayer you are also Momin, while you are
doing business also Momin, and while you remain sleeping then also Momin. To achieve this
stage you need to purify your inner self first. Need to purify nafs/self. After that prayers
and reciting Quran will go within you. With these effects souls within you will strengthened
and ascend towards Allah. Whoever purifies the self, strengthen the souls is bound to have
vision. And walis can bestow their vision without self/nafs purification upon anyone they
wish to….and they do so for whom they want to purify the nafs.

Question: This means everybody’s self is purified?

Answer: (His Holiness remained silent with a smile)

Question: Once, Hazart Muhammad (SAW) handed over a cloak to Hazart Ali (RA). It is
said that this cloak by passing different people will end up in hands of Imam Mahdi (AS)
… Sarkar, did you receive that cloak?

Answer: I cannot say anything, whether it has approached to me or not…but it has reached
to the one who is Imam Mahdi.

Yes…anybody else?

Question: My question is regarding Imam Mahdi (AS). The seal which Imam Mahdi will have
on back… it will be visible or invisible? If visible…when would it appear and would we be able
to see?

Answer: Anybody who wants will be able to see that. Here is the watch, everyone is looking
at it. The one, hypocrite from the heart will say that I can’t see the seal.

Question: Sarkar … when the image of Imam Mahdi which is on Khana Ka’ba until when it will
be revealed/visible?

Answer: These are useless things, look it yourself, once happen it will be known to all.

Question: Every now and then we read in newspapers that end of the world is near. You also
said that destruction and calamity is close. So, if everything is close to finish, should we

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leave our worldly chores? Please explain; Sarkar, So many people have abandoned their
business…if someone needs to build his house, he is not doing thinking that end is near.

Answer: No, this is wrong. Don’t we use oxygen for a dying person? Even if you know that he
is about to die but we put him on oxygen. Therefore, keep doing what you are doing…will see
when time of death will arrive.

Question: In Holy Quran Chapter No 12, it is mentioned about the destructions of many
previous nations. Is there any specific purpose of Alif Laam Raa in Para/chapter 12?

Answer: Yes, there is a specific purpose and it will be disclosed when the time will come.

Question: Sarkar …Imam Mahdi will have milk running in His body? Is it true?

Answer: Some people say His body will have milk, some say meaning of milk is Noor. So,
whenever anybody will claim (that he is Imam Mahdi) check for yourself by cutting with
knife.

Question: It is said that a heavenly voices will announce in Khana Ka’ba that your Imam is
present among you. Will this happen during this year on the occasion of Hajj pilgrimage?

Answer: Don’t know about this. But often voices are heard from heavens, often are heard on
special nights. You would have heard that Jibrael (AS) give a call but not everyone hear this.
Only people of heart can hear. Only those people will listen to this call and will tell to their
followers.

Question: Sarkar …our companions says that there is image appeared in the Black Stone. Do
you confirm it?

Answer: Definitely image has appeared but need to be recognized whose image is this! This
is a very sensitive matter. Someone should properly verify it first, should recognize and
give it to computer experts. If it matches with someone only then should say, it belongs to
that person. It has been widely said, even it is being said among non-Muslims that there is
an image in the Black Stone. All the images of the Black Stone which people have got,
observe them by turning that image up-side-down. Only time will tell…(that who’s image it
is).

Next?

Question: Sarkar …can a Zakir-e-Qalbi (Heart meditater) have a heart attack?

Answer: If person has family history of this disease, then there is no guarantee for him but
if his zikr has started, he cannot have heart attack. It has reason because when he/she
chant Allah Allah, this makes his/her heart to beat faster. Due to this blood circulation
increases and chance of an attack finishes.

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Question: Who has (Taboot-e-Sakina)"The Ark of the Covenant" now? Or where it is?

Answer: Nothing is known about it yet.

Question: Can a central office bearer participate in another candidate’s election campaign?

Answer: Not without approval of Anjuman.

Question: Adam (AS) descended in this world 14 times. Did Imam Mahdi (AS) also come 14
times already?

Answer: No, Adam (AS) didn’t descend (for fourteen times). They were other Adams prior
to him who came. This is the last Adam. As far as Imam Mahdi or Hazart Muhammad (SAW)
is concerned, Hazart Muhammad (SAW) said that “I was a prophet before
coming into this world; I was prophet when not even Adam (AS) was created”. Firstly, souls
were created then all other creatures. Souls of Imam Mahdi, Hazart Muhammad (SAW),
Ghaus Pak (Abdul Qadir Jalani), Sultan Sahib are those who were there since the primordial
time.

Question: Sarkar, Imam Mahdi (AS) will be in Pakistan, but many people having light
in heart will be in other countries. How they will reach to Imam Mahdi (AS), will they be
shown any special signals?

Answer: Many people are receiving signs, people are being shown. Ask something meaningful.

Question: Sarkar …you have said that the image of Imam Mahdi (AS) has been shown to
all the Aulias (Saints). Why don’t they issue statements about this?

Answer: Till the time Imam Mahdi does not announce himself, how can they tell? First He
(Imam Mahdi) will announce about himself that he is, then people will ask about him (from
their guides) whether it is true or not, then they (walis) will confirm that yes, He is. Before
this how can they (Walis) say?

Question: Sarkar …once you said that Imam Mahdi would ever claim that I am Imam Mahdi,
People will recognize Him?

Answer: Actually fact is that, self-appointed Mahdi will make lot of nice about himself but
ultimately he will be disgraced. But the real one from Allah, whether he hides himself in
jungle or stays silent people will be attracted towards Him automatically and people
will recognize Him. The Mahdi is the one who will be from Allah, so whether he proclaims or
not, ultimately He is Imam Mahdi.

Question: Sarkar …why a diamond should pronounce that it is diamond…it would be

recognized automatically?

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Answer: He will be recognized automatically. Once He will be recognized, He will be
separated from a lot, people will recognize Him. then ultimately one day, it has to be
shown by highlighting it that “this is diamond”.

Question: Will other people also claim to be Mahdi in or before the time of the real Mahdi?

Answer: It is mentioned in Hadith (Prophetic tradition) that 14 people will proclaim to

be Mahdi. And very pious people will accept that he maybe Imam Mahdi. But the real one will
be only one. Then He will have benefit when people will accept those fourteen.
Their followers will also come towards the real one.

Question: All other 14 will be false?

Answer: They will be false but some due to their Kashaf some due to their worship they
would start considering themselves to be Mahdi.

Question: Sarkar …would they be murdered?

Answer: This is premature to say. Don’t know what Allah’s desire will be!

Yes…anybody else?

Question: People never accept earlier claimants of Mahdi…would they accept the real one?

Answer: People like you will run away….anyways…get up and offer Juma prayer/salat.

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